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November 8, 2024 41 mins

Dan recaps last night’s exciting football game between the Ravens and the Bengals including Ja’Marr Chase’s historic night, Lamar Jackson’s MVP level season, and the missed penalties on the Bengals failed 2-pt conversion attempt. He’s not sure how to fix the officiating issues in the NFL, he just knows that having full time officials is not the answer.

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Speaker 2 (02:04):
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Speaker 3 (02:05):
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The Ravens holding off the Bengals thirty five to thirty four.
It's weird to have, at least for me an opinion
on both teams and have a negative opinion on both
teams after a game like that, because with the Bengals,

(02:26):
they don't have defense, and it is rearing its ugly
head here.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
They do have offense. The Ravens have offense, but they
don't have defense. Now, for one, I'm thinking about just
getting into the playoffs. The Bengals the Ravens. I'm thinking
about bigger picture winning a super Bowl. They're not going
to win a super Bowl this way. You know, you're
barely scraping by Cincinnati. And Cincinnati is a good team.

(02:52):
They don't have a good record. They can put up points,
and both of these quarterbacks look wonderful last night. But
I'm looking at the Ravens bigger picture because we saw
the playoff version of the Ravens last year, and they
were great last year. I mean, they had a really
good defense and a really good offense. They have a
really really good offense this year and an average defense.

(03:15):
Let's say I was gonna give grades Kansas City Chiefs offense.
Let's say I just said a B potential for a
B plus. Their defense is an A. If I said
the Ravens offense, I'll give you an A. But that defense,
I'm probably giving you a C minus the you know,

(03:36):
defensive backs, the secondary not good.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
And you normally think of the Ravens they run the
football and they play great defense. Well, they are running
the football, they're really passing the football a whole lot more.
But the defense not holding up its end of the bargain. Now,
let's get to the end, because yes, would I have
gone for two Yes, I would have because your defense
is getting you know, roughed up.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Second half. You guys got exposed. Go for it.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
You're on the road, go for the win. And I
had no problem with it. The problem I had that
there were a couple of penalties on that two point conversion.
Certainly they hit to I mean you could have called
two penalties on Burrow. He got hit after the play
and you got hit in the face in the face mask.
You want to call holding? Okay, I mean there's going

(04:30):
to be holding on those plays. It's like a hail Mary.
If you want to call it, you can that play?
Was it egregious? I had more of a problem that
the tight end didn't go deeper into the end zone.
You know, the Ravens did a good job in kind
of pushing him back a little bit, and therefore, even
if he caught the pass, I don't think he gets
the two point conversion. But that was a old fashioned

(04:53):
shootout against two teams that don't like each other very
I don't know if teams like each other, you know
when we they don't like each other. I don't know
how many times you see a game and you go,
you know, those two teams like each other.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Yes, I would say to the flip side, I don't
know how many teams hate each other anymore.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
But do you like each other? Maybe hate is too strong,
But is like too strong of a word, like these
two don't like each other. Okay historically yes, but like
the Ravens and the Steelers hate each other.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
I bet Jamar Chase and Lamar Jackson are pretty cool actually.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
After last night.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, Jamar Chase had eleven receptions, two hundred and sixty
four yards and three touchdowns, So he's the first player
in league history to have multiple games with at least
two hundred and fifty receiving yards and three receiving touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
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you by Panadi America. You know, Chase had one of
those games where you go, boy, that's right, he's right there.
Now we talk about Justin Jefferson there, there's a few
wide receivers. Whe there's nobody in Justin Jefferson's category, I
don't think, but Jamar Chase can be in that category.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
What he did against Baltimore. He had four hundred and
fifty seven receiving yards in two games against Baltimore this year,
four hundred.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
And fifty seven.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
That is an NFL record for one player against another
team in a single season, and he beat the previous
record by thirty yards. And there are times when you
watch and you go, boy, he makes it look easy. Now,
Baltimore's secondary certainly assisted in that, but when Burrow and
Jamar Chase are on, they are as good, probably better

(06:53):
than any other combination in football.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
Yes, Mark Joe Burrow through to Justin Jefferson and Jamar
Chase on the same team. Yeah, you know, crazy, that sounds.
That is the greatest college offense ever.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
That's why he had sixty touchdown passes that that final
year at LSU. And then you have Lamar Jackson like, oh,
by the way, with Lamar Jackson, another great performance. And
what he does is he beats the Cincinnati Bengals. I
think he's lost one one time to the Cincinnati Bengals.
And the other thing is he's not getting hit when

(07:30):
you drop back to pass. And we've seen this where
you're gonna and Burrow got hit last night. He got
hit a lot. I think Lamar Jackson got hit once.
So Burrow got hit twelve times. Lamar Jackson, coming into
last night's game had been hit nineteen times on dropbacks

(07:51):
this season total, So let's make that twenty twenty hits
on him. Among the quarterbacks who have at least one
hundred and fifty dropbacks this season, the only guy who
has been hit in the pocket fewer times is a
fellow MVP candidate, Josh Allen was sixteen whoo.

Speaker 7 (08:14):
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to day.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
This is the stant of the day. Now.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
By comparison, Gino Smith has been hit sixty two times,
Deshaun Watson fifty seven times, c J. Stroud forty nine times,
Aaron Rodgers forty nine times, Kirk Cousins forty eight times.
This is crazy. Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen getting the
protection and those are your two leading candidates for MVP now,

(08:48):
and I'm gonna throw Jared goff In there as well.
But Lamar Jackson is putting up better numbers than last year.
And once again, I hope that the voters don't do this.
I hope they don't hold the postseason against Lamar Jackson
for what he's doing in the regular season to say yes,
but now I can do that to the team. I'm

(09:09):
not gonna do that for a regular season award with
Lamar Jackson. Remember when he couldn't throw, Remember he was
one dimensional. We weren't quite sure. You saw him at
Louisville Highlights and we wondered, well, you don't have to
throw the same way. It has to get there. It's
like golf swings. If you look at Jim Furick swing,

(09:31):
you'd go he can't be a good golfer. Wass a
Hall of Famer. Not everybody's gonna look like Ernie Else
when he swings the golf club. Not everybody's going to
look like Joe Montana or Tom Brady's. It needs to
get from here to there. That's it doesn't matter. Now
you can say, well side arm if you're shorter gets
knocked down. I understand all of that. Lamar Jackson doesn't

(09:54):
have that wow look at that throw or the form
of look at that throw, but he gets it from
A to B and he's done extremely well with that.
You have the threat of him running, not as much
as in previous years because you have Derrick Henry. It's
they have to score just about You're got to score
at least thirty points.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
And that's where I go.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
The negative part of this is if you faced Kansas
City today. Let's say the Ravens played Kansas City today
AFC Title game and it's probably going to be in
Kansas City. They couldn't put them away in Baltimore last year.
Who were you taking?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
You're taking Kansas City now.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Paulie likes to say, between those two, whoever has the
ball last, that's probably who I'm taking. I would take
Kansas City over Baltimore because I feel like I have
a complete team and the offense isn't as good as Baltimore's,
but that defense is a whole lot better. And it
comes to postseason, it's defense making plays or not making plays.

(10:58):
And if you throw in the element of Mahomes has
been there and done this before, I would I And
I don't know what the odds the number would be.
Can we check with Vegas or DraftKings. Let's say AFC
Title game today, Kansas City Baltimore in Kansas City. I
gotta believe Kansas City would be three and a half
point favorite.

Speaker 6 (11:19):
Yes, Marvin, And even if the Ravens had the ball last,
Chris Jones on the other side of the ball, Yes,
and he's going to make a play.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Chris Jones.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
He's not the equivalent of Patrick Mahomes, but he is
the that guy's on the field and he'll probably make
a play. And that's how we assess Patrick Mahomes. So
here is the call of the Ravens stopping the two
point conversion last night.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Burrow takes the snap, Ravens brings Bliss pressure, Burrow throws
it at the end zone.

Speaker 8 (11:46):
It's in complete.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Its ind complete, and.

Speaker 8 (11:49):
With thirty eight seconds left, the play has.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
A learn.

Speaker 8 (11:55):
What a wild one end tonight as the Ravens will
sweep this areas from the Bengals and improved just seven
and three.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
The hey is in the barn ninety eight Rock Ravens
Radio Network. Here's Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow.

Speaker 9 (12:13):
He's gotta make the opportunities that are there, make the plays.
You know, we did in spots and we didn't in
spots tonight, and that's the story of our season. So
I'm going to do everything in my power to continue
to be ready for the opportunities that come, try to
take advantage of them.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I'm not done done on the Bengals.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Now.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
I think they got the Chargers in LA coming up.
They got the Steelers a couple of times. They but
you know, you're looking for a wild card spot. Are
they better than the Broncos. Yes, but the Broncos have
a better record. Can they get to nine wins? Nine
wins might do it in the AMC, So you have

(12:57):
to have five wins in seven games, very very small
margin for era. I think the end they end the
season against the Steelers, Steelers would love nothing better than
to bounce them.

Speaker 7 (13:08):
Those two teams don't like each other. Yes, Pony, it
would be great if that were for the wild card spot.
But the your Bengals have Chargers, Steelers, then they get Cowboys, Titans, Browns, Broncos,
some winnable December.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
The call so they don't end the season with the Steelers.

Speaker 10 (13:23):
You have the Steelers to on January fifth, Okay, to
end the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, all right, we'll get phone calls. We'll settle on
a poll question. We have a lot of things to
go over college football weekend, the NFL as well some
basketball from last night eight seven to seven three DP show.
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Speaker 3 (13:55):
All right, time to settle on a pole question, and
we got phone calls to get to as well, Seaton.
What do you have on the menu today, Dan? How
do you prefer your refs in these days good competent?

Speaker 5 (14:11):
Do you want them blowing the whistle at the end
of the game or do you want them to just
let it ride?

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Well, there's certain plays where you can let it ride.
But if there is a somebody hits the quarterback in
the face, there's somebody's job who the entire job is
to watch the quarterback. How do you watch that play
and not see that Burrow clearly gets hit in the face, right,

(14:39):
So if you start with that, I know it gets
there's pushing and shoving and it's you know, there's it's
hand to hand combat sometimes on the goal line in
a play like that. With a play like that, first
of all, I wouldn't have gone to my I would
have gone to Jamar Chase in that situation because Jamar
Chase would get the ben fit of the doubt because

(15:01):
it's Jamar Chase over a tight end.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
So you start there.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I didn't even think they were going to get the
two point conversion, but you could have called a couple
of penalties on the play. It's going to get worse
before it gets better, and by that I mean we
have games that are decided on plays like this, whether
it's gambling or fantasy, whatever it is, the uproar is

(15:28):
what the NFL has to suppress. The officials have an
extremely tough job. I don't know if being a full
time official is going to mean that you do what better,
like what happens, your eyesight gets better, like what the
only thing that helps is if you have somebody who's
watching the game to help the officials like babysitting or

(15:52):
being a lifeguard there. I don't want the game slowed down,
but I want the game called correctly. And yes, there
are plays that are called or not called in the
first quarter, that are called or not called in the
fourth quarter. I get that. I just want consistency. It's
like if you talk to you know, great hitters, all

(16:13):
they want is you tell me what the strike zone
is and you stay with that, don't get squirrely and
all of a sudden, you know, go Eric, greg and
go that's three feet outside. Then they have a problem
with that. You're an offensive lineman, what is holding?

Speaker 2 (16:27):
What is not?

Speaker 3 (16:27):
What are you calling tonight? Your quarterback or your wide
receiver all defensive backs. You just want to know, Okay,
what is the game plan tonight? For the officials. That's
it because then you can adjust accordingly. Not wait now
you're going to call that, or wait you didn't call
that before? Why didn't you call that? Like that's where

(16:50):
I get I get concerned. I don't wanna say worried,
but I get concerned about that that they make it
seem like bo if they had the officials in their
full time, what what do we say that about other
officials in any other sport. But it'd be nice if
those NBA officials were full time. Boy, those umpires, if

(17:11):
they were full time. We used this as an excuse
for the NFL. Yeah, maybe it's time for full time officials.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, they had spent more time studying in June. Oh,
they would have caught those They would have gotten that call, right. Yes,
they would know what it means if you hit somebody
in the face. Now that because they're full time, they
would understand that.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
Which that penalty is a little controversial anyway, because sometimes
if your fingers graze the face mask and it moves,
they'll flag that. Other times a dude could get a
quarterback could gets straight up punched in the face. It's like, sorry,
we missed it.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I don't have to tell you.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
I get like the I think the origin of it
was like people are clubbing quarterbacks in the head, right.
I think that's probably goes back to like, don't club
these dudes in the head anymore, right, But I don't
know that that's what happened last night.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
No, he got hit in the face. I mean he did.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Whether it's egregious or not or oh my god, it's
still a penalty you can get called for pass interference
in a letter of the law. Yeah, if Tom Brady
through that pass and got hit in the face, he
got obviously he would call that one.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
You got robbed, yes, yes, Paul, all right.

Speaker 10 (18:25):
A couple questions for the room off that at the
end of the game last night from us. It was
a pretty clear hold on Jessekei and a pretty clear
hit to the helmet on Burrow. Did they let them play,
which we like, or did they let them play too much?

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, if you're going to let him play, can you
have that many potential penalties that you're not going to call?
If there's one, let's say it was broke and he
got grazed in the face.

Speaker 10 (18:50):
Mask, Yeah, it's a little more than a grazing.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
But oh, I know I would have called that. Yeah.
But if we're talking about, oh, you know you're gonna
let that one go, well, if you let that one go,
then you have to let that one go, and then
let that one go.

Speaker 10 (19:03):
But almost like two and a half minutes left, it's
almost like they ease off the gas pedal.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
But I can't. Okay, but if I'm a defensive back
now I know that now I play differently.

Speaker 10 (19:13):
Which maybe is why the guy on the Ravens did
what he did, is that he knows it's close to
the lines. Oh, I would have held to second part
of my question. Okay, would you preferred a system in
place last night where after that play, someone rings down
from the sky and says, Joe Burrow is hit roughing
the passer first, you know, half the distance play over? Yeah,

(19:36):
how do you think that go over?

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Well?

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Okay, is the goal to get the calls right? Like
do you start the game and you go, let's get
all the calls right? Or hey, we might get ninety
six percent of them, but that should be good enough. Okay,
I mean any job where you go, I'm in the
ninety six percentile. Okay, we do all take that. But

(20:00):
in the final two minutes, if I can, and there's
so much time in between plays because the play is
run and then we replay, and then we replay again,
and then they get ready and then you have another play,
you could conceivably have somebody say, hey, check the monitor,
Burrow got hit in the face.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Okay, that doesn't take long. The problem is how long
it would normally take.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
But yes, if you want to say, in the final
two minutes, this is reviewable.

Speaker 10 (20:31):
Okay, I wonder how that would go for a final
two minutes, all powerful sky judge that can ring down
and fix it.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Well, only certain penalties would be under review. Yes see see.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
I'm already like, I'm just listening to you guys talk
about this, and I'm like, well, why the final two minutes?
Why only certain penalties? Why only This is where football
just gets so lost.

Speaker 10 (20:54):
But the NFL does look at the final two minutes differently,
already with you can't throw challenges already gone that direction.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
Which doesn't make sense. No, that doesn't make sense either,
So we'll just keep doing more things that don't make sense.
That's what the NFL does. Yes, it's like the catch rule.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
You know what if you got to do this and
then this, and then we're gonna add this and then
complete the process.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's the one I actually think I understand.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
You have to it finally, you have to determine at
some point when it's a catch and when it's not.
So I do kind of understand that, But why one penalty, Like, well,
we don't really look at that one, but we will
look at this one.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I don't get that.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Well, okay, this goes back to can I get a
little bit of progress here? So if you said in
the final two minutes, I know that it will eventually
lead to you know, a little bit more wide open
that now it's going to be in the final five
minutes or because you never go back, it's never you
know what, instead of two minutes, we're going to do
one minute, it's two minutes.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Is there a penalty?

Speaker 3 (21:53):
We're reviewing these penalties great now holding I don't want
them reviewing that past interference.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I don't want them reviewing that.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
If you said, it's just going to be roughing the passer,
let's just have it just that, that's it, I'd be
fine with that because the other stuff happens so often.
But if there's something like that where you you know,
rough the passer, you have an eye in the sky,
who's going to say, hey, they they roughed Burrow there?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Yeah, it does seem like that probably should have been
called the hit to the face on Joe Burrow and
and and it's just unlucky for the Ravens. You know,
if it was called I would say he did I
don't think he meant to hit him in the face.
Sometimes you're trying to get past the gigantic dude who's
like three hundred and fifty pounds, and CEO, your hand
hits swung, hit the quarterback in the face. It's just
really unlucky. The Koseki thing, I feel like he over

(22:44):
sold it. Did he made it cartoonish? And then you're like, oh, if.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
You're acting that much going up, I can't.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
What Then you probably could have gotten away from the
guy classic oversell. I think he oversold that quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
He made it. It made it look silly over how
much he was over every Okay, what other pole questions
do we have today? We have many? Some I have
to save for later hours. Oh some I have to yeah, yeah,
like late night hours, late night hours.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
Hey, now, Paul's very hot on the Ravens uniforms.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Okay, medium hot. Well, you send it out. You sent
the text out, and you go like you're contemplating if
you liked it or not. Doesn't that tell you if
you really like it? That I gets you either like
it or you don't. You don't go, I don't know,
kind of growing on me.

Speaker 10 (23:32):
You're a look at a house or a car. And
you like it, and you go back for the second
look and you're like, oh, I like it more or
like it less when I saw them last time, like
Gorge that the face masks, the matt helmets a lot
of purple, which is original, and I think a lot
of people like them a lot. But I don't know
if I would go so far as saying that's what

(23:52):
they should be wearing.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yes, ton, I think it was too purple.

Speaker 11 (23:57):
I didn't like and I think Marvin said it earlier.
We's walking off the the gold copper, whatever call you
want to call that. I just didn't love that. And
I think if you're going to go that purple that
belongs to the Minnesota Vikings, if a team's going to
go full purple, I don't see the Ravens purple as
the Viking.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
No, it's a different shade of purple, different anything.

Speaker 11 (24:15):
Purple, differently purple top and bottom.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
No, but that's that's a different purple. That that's got
kind of black and blue in the purple.

Speaker 10 (24:24):
You're okay in the shade?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, Yeah, I wasn't big on it, but I did.
I can honestly say I didn't turn on the game
to go honey, come in here. Look at the Ravens
uniforms at least eighty percent of the I know that
Paulie gets so caught up in it, Like he goes,
I'm contemplating, I go, what could he become the Raven's uniforms.

Speaker 10 (24:48):
Do you think the Bengals uniforms still play to a
younger audience?

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yes, yeah, okay, Paulie.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
I was there the first year the Bengals came to Cincinnati,
and they had the worst uniforms think in the history
of uniforms.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
And that's saying a lot.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
It is the most bland uniform that mankind has ever created.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Not cool, bland like pennzil No no no, no, no,
no no.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
And what happened was the first game I saw the
Chargers played the Bengals, and the Chargers came out in
those uniforms, and I went, who I like that team.
The Bengals were boring. Now, they had some good players,
but the uniform Paul Brown came from the Cleveland Browns. Now,

(25:33):
the Cleveland Browns were kind of like the Penn State
uniforms of the NFL.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
They were just clean.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Now, you did have the orange brown in there. But
when they got to Cincinnati and they had Bengals written
on the side of the helmet. The helmet the color
was boring.

Speaker 10 (25:50):
I'm looking at them now and they're gorgeous, but boring.
Like the striping is great. They even have a real belt,
like an active belt.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I see. You shouldn't be able to have a belt
in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Like you could have a belt for golf, but not
playing contact sport.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I could. I could sharpen my belt. I could slice
you if I want.

Speaker 10 (26:12):
This is a real belt, not like a stretchy fabric.
It's got the metal you know thing.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah that the Bengals, those are terrible Uni.

Speaker 10 (26:20):
I think they look good in a rear view mirror
because they're so sixties.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah, well they were late sixties there. Do you guys
have a problem with Jamar Chase taking for now? Is
that taunting? So he has this electrifying run he breaks
away from the ravens now. I think Lamar Jackson had
his touchdown run where he kind of backed his way
in and took his time. Jamar Chase, he's, you know,

(26:48):
right along the goal line, goal line. Deshaun Jackson did
this one time, I think Monday night against the Giants.
But you know, Jamar Chase is dragging it out. I
don't know if that's taunting or not. I was just
I was curious. It feels like, you know, if I
put up a peace sign while I'm running in for
a touchdown, that's taunting.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
But is that taunting Marvin? Yes?

Speaker 6 (27:12):
But when Jamar Chase went to the sideline, you can
see the head coach, Zach Taylor go up to him
and say something. But you could tell like he's the star.
So I'm not gonna say what I really want to say.
If it was just another backup running back or backup
wide receiver that did that, like, hey, next time, you
just like just please get in the end zone because

(27:34):
if it was somebody else, I'm sure head was ready
to explode. You know, you just can't take all that time.
It just put your arm over the goal line.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Well, at least he got into the end zone instead
of these guys who were celebrating before.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yes, Pauline, I had the loophole.

Speaker 10 (27:47):
Why Jamar Chase and others who kind of dance around
by the goal line without going in you have to
taunt at someone?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Well, no, no, he's looking back.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
He is.

Speaker 10 (27:56):
But Honestly, I think it's I think as I'm reading
what the NFL has, it has to be directly at
a player or a bench or the sideline of me.
He has he's just kind of looking backwards.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
And he was trolling them right, absolutely.

Speaker 10 (28:12):
Baiting or taunting acts towards the defender or offensive player.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Okay, so it's but if I run in and I
do a peace sign, you have to do it to
the air. Yeah, I'm not taunting the guy behind me,
am I No, Yes, Todd.

Speaker 11 (28:25):
I think unless it's very late in the game and
precious seconds or taking off the clock, and then it's
incumbent upon the defense to tackle him or just shove
him into the end zone or whatever. But if you're
just doing that, I thought the rep was going to
throw flag there. He took way too long to get
in the end zone, and I think you only get
away with that. I don't care if you're not cursing
or pointing your finger, you know, unless you're trying to
eat precious seconds off the clock, you've got to get
in the end zone.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
He is Buddha in San Francisco. Hi, Buddha, what's on
your mind today?

Speaker 12 (28:51):
No, buddy, every day is a super Bowl boys, Let's
go Dan. I'm back for my Dodgers victories, abbatical, back
and better than ever DP. I wanted to call in
first to tell Fritzy he's been killing it lately. It's
come to my attention that he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Hear that enough.

Speaker 12 (29:11):
So thank you, Todd, But I digress.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Dan.

Speaker 12 (29:15):
I am out on last night's Baltimore uniforms. But last
night's game was so unlike a normal Thursday night game, right,
I mean it was like competitive, yeah, and thrilling, and
more so it was an engaged Al Michael's cooking the
officials with his response to the ending, which was like

(29:36):
worse than seeing vegetables on Alf's dinner plate.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Not good.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, Al was pumped up.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
I mean that was That was a playoff game that
had that feel with Herbie and Al. They were they
finally got a great game. That might be the best
Thursday night game we've had in a long long time.
Griffin and Cincinnati welcome back Griff, Dan Fuugh night.

Speaker 13 (30:04):
However, I did get a few good hours of sleep
because I watched the musical and movie Anny last night.
Helped me go to sleep. In nineteen ninety nine version
so I woke up thinking about tomorrow a much better day.
Hate that the national discourse today is going to be
about the miss penalties on that two point conversion. I
get it, but I hate how that's going to be

(30:25):
the focal point because the Bengals, this is the story
of every loss of their season. Dan just can't make
the winning play, can't finish a game. You look at
some of the mistakes. The Chase Brown fumble obviously really
turned the game on its head.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
How about Zach.

Speaker 13 (30:40):
Taylor, who did really call a good game in my opinion,
he was aggressive, but he doesn't trust Money Mack. Remember
the guy named money Mack, the kicker he punted instead
of letting him kick a fifty eight yard field goal.
He has not been money this year. So you haven't
discourse with this Sengles team. I'm not completely out of them.
I feel okay about it. That was a tough one

(31:00):
last time.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, and thank you Griffin.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
I think this is as much about the Ravens as
is the Bengals, because once again I'm looking at one
team maybe making the playoffs, I'm looking at another team.
Can they, you know, win the playoffs? Can they go
to the Super Bowl. And that's why I said I
had kind of a negative reaction to both of these teams.
The Bengals can't play defense. I was okay with the

(31:23):
two point conversion call or the attempt with that, but
the Ravens are going to have to score outscore you,
and once again we're going to try to get a
point spread. If Kansas City hosted the Ravens right now
for the AFC title game, I have to believe the
Chiefs are at least a three point favorite. Being at home.

(31:45):
They're going to be a favorite here. And that's what
this is going to come down to. Mahomes is not
going to outscore you from the standpoint of it's going
to be a shootout. But that defense is a whole
lot better than your defense. And you know, all of us,
you're going to be going to Kansas City in January
and the wins are going to be whipping, and you

(32:06):
know it's it's going to be, you know, in clement weather,
and you're gonna have to go in there against that
defense and knowing you've got to score because your team
is not going to hold back Kansas City. Kansas City's
offense isn't great, like I said, they're probably a B.
Baltimore's an A. But that Kansas City defense and they've
been they're known as a defensive team now with the

(32:29):
greatest quarterback today. So if you're looking what it's been before,
then they had that offense was so good and then
you had a couple of playmakers on defense. They've really
fortified that defense. So that's why when I'm looking at it,
I go man, Baltimore one Lamar looks great, But what

(32:50):
are they going to do in the postseason? The Bengals
they look good, can't close teams out. Last time they
played against Baltimore they lost by three. Couldn't close them out.
And are they going to be able to you know,
huff and puff and you know, Bobbin and weavin to
go nine nine wins? Maybe this year, can you get
to nine wins? Because if you can, maybe you can

(33:12):
make it in as a wild card. We'll take a break.
More phone calls coming up. Our Play of the Day
up next.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wapp Oh My God.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Of the Day.

Speaker 10 (33:34):
Play This is the play of the day.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Check this out. Jackson and the gun. He wants to
throw a third down quick release and it's complete.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Tyland Wallace breaks attack. He's to the thirty. Steve arms
a man at thirty five forty.

Speaker 8 (33:45):
You may feel down the sideline and play thirty twenty
ten touch down the Ravens. Tyland Wallace eighty thour yards
and the Ravens are right back in it.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
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Speaker 3 (34:01):
The Ravens and Bengals combined for seventeen passing touchdowns in
their two games this season. That's tied for the most
in a seasonal series since nineteen sixty two. Ravens had
won four straight over the Bengals, Lamar Jackson ten and
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I mentioned the calendars are available just in time for
the holidays. I will say, the big winner of the

(34:45):
calendars Fritzy Fritzi. I think general consensus Fritzy is the
big winner. There is one photo one month that Todd. Wow,
that's all I can say. Wow, pretty impressive, ladies. Well
I should say to you guys, be careful when you

(35:08):
show this photo to your wives their girlfriends.

Speaker 11 (35:11):
What I thought it came out well, but I wish
it would have looked even better.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
But it looked even better.

Speaker 11 (35:19):
Yeah, because yeah, okay, I'm glad that. I don't want
to give anything wend No, no, no, then I'm glad there
was some coverage. I shall leave it at the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Well that's why it can't get any better. Yeah, like
they made it better.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yes, but once again just letting it's a public service
announcement for you guys. If you get the calendar. When
when you get the calendar, do we know what month
of the year that is?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Is that? Like a I think it was May May?

Speaker 11 (35:49):
So the ladies they've been warned.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, may I see that picture again? Hello James? And
since hi James, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 4 (36:03):
What up? DP? Six foot? A slender one ninety two? Things? Here? So,
first off, if that was Mahomes last night, there would
have been five hundred flags on the field, one hundred percent.
I'm starting to question season's credibility a little bit. It
was clearly a penalty. I tagged him on Twitter seek
and look at that face mask at the end of

(36:24):
the game, along with the late hit on another thing.
Through ten games, Joe Burrow has two six hundred and
seventy two passing yards of twenty five total tds. Jamar
has nine hundred and eighty one receiver yards and ten tds,
and Trey Hendrickson has eleven sacks. The Bengals are four
and six. Make it makes sense. You have an NBFP
Offensive Player of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year.

(36:45):
Make it makes sense. Brother, I'm sick.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
You gotta close out games and that comes down to coaching.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
You start with coaching. You gotta win these games.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
The difference every single week, the margin of victory is
usually seven points or less. That comes down to little things.
That comes down to end of games, end of halves,
doing the right thing at the right time. You can
put up numbers. When do you put up those numbers?
Smitty in Ohio, Hi, Smitty Dan morning.

Speaker 14 (37:21):
All right, First time, long time, all the way back
for it with you and Dipps five to eleven, soft
Dad Bot one eighty five. I got two things for you,
one about the Bengals and have a donation for the
man Caves. So you just actually hit it on the head.
About coaching, I've been so confused. That's why nobody's talking
about Zach Taylor and lou And if you watch these games,

(37:42):
Zach Taylor makes some really bad decisions. In my opinion,
they cost them games. I'm confused. That's why you don't
take three points when you're on the roads, you're on
the thirty four yard line, take those points. They take
them there and they win that game. I'm so scared
Dan that Joe Burrow is going to be the next
Dan Marino. I mean, I think Joe Burrow she tried
to get out of Cincinnati, honestly. Okay, my donation for

(38:03):
the man Cave. As we know, the Kelsey brothers are
from Cleveland. I went to a Calves game last year
and they had a double bobblehead night. So dual bobblehead
of the Kelsey brothers in Calves, Jersey. And I'm pretty
sure you probably don't have anything like that. I would
like to send it to you and you could put
it up in the man cave.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Well, thank you, Smitty, and we would be more than
happy to take your double bobbleheads or bobble heads dolls
with the Kelsey brothers. Jason in Sacramento, Hi, Jas, what's
on your mind?

Speaker 15 (38:36):
It was a deep speaking of bad coaching. I thought
yesterday that the Ravens to the ball in the twenty
something yard line two minutes ago first and ten. They
have Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry. I think they could
have ran the ball instead of throwing it and leaving
Burrow a zero time on the clock. I don't think

(38:57):
that Harbo gets enough flag for that if they would
have lost that game. And I got a did you know?
Did you know that next year you can see your
Oakland A's and your Sacramento Kings in the same day.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Pretty incredible, pretty incredible road trip? Who's with me?

Speaker 3 (39:17):
I said to Seaton the other day, I said, you
know what I want to do? I said, I want
to take a road trip. He said, well, where do
you want to go? I said, no, this isn't the
Super Bowl or you know, NFL Draft or Final four.
I said, I want to go on a road trip,
and I want to go to one state. You guys

(39:39):
want to guess that's state? Todd Wyoming, Wyoming. Okay, Rando, Marvin.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Illinois.

Speaker 10 (39:50):
Okay, Paulie, there's more, Rando.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
This is a big roach. Alaska. In my that would
be a big road. That would be crazy.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
You're build up with I would go to Alaska. By
the way, anybody ever been to Alaska? I really want
to go.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
I've been to British Columbia. Oh oh man, that was
as close as I got to Alisa There Iowa. Oh,
I would like to do maybe a spring.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Go around all of our affiliates in Iowa and we
just rent a van like we're a band, and we
just drive around. We go into their local studios and
then we do the show and then we drive to
the next one. So we do five days, five different
cities in Iowa. Who's with me?

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Okay, I want to try that. Okay, thank you, Tom Iowasca.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Here you go.

Speaker 6 (40:46):
Let's go in the darkness.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah, you got to embrace the darkness.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Man.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
I was seventy five percent valves and one hundred percent awesome.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yes it is, Yes, it is as they say.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
All right, one hour of the books. Two more to
go on this meet Friday. More phone calls coming up
eight seven, seven to three DP show we have the
most must win game of the weekend coming up.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
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