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November 18, 2024 40 mins

Dan and the Danettes talk about more takeaways from the NFL weekend action. Steve Young stops by to discuss Joe Burrow and more quarterback play, plus why kickers are real football players.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Dan Patrick Show. I have the updated Super Bowl odds
case you're wondering following the Buffalo Bills putting an end
to the Chiefs undefeated season. All right, the Lions, everybody

(00:48):
would guess would be the favorite right now, and they are.
According to DraftKings, the Lions are the Super Bowl favorites.
Second best odds to win the Super Bowl. Must say
still the Chicks by a little bit, you would be correct, bloop.
Third best odds to win the Super Bowl would be

(01:08):
Marvin the Ravens, No, Paul, the Bills, Yes. Fourth best
odds to win the Super bowls Seaton the Ravens, No,
what Paul the Eagles, Yes, and then the Ravens. So

(01:29):
those are the updated Super Bowl odds and the odds
to win the MVP. It's Josh Allen's to lose, Lamar Jackson,
Jared Goff, Jalen Hurts, and Patrick Mahomes. I was curious
about this, The most losses by an MVP, because you know,
we've been saying Lamar Jackson is the leading candidate, and

(01:49):
what do they have four losses right now? The most
losses by an NFL MVP. Who wants to guess, and
I'll start with you, most losses by an NFL MVP
in a season. Sammy Baw, Sammy Baw, Sammy Baw.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
It can't be.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, there's some recent MVPs. Paul.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I want to avoid quarterback because a quarterback I don't
think and win it with a losing record. I'll go Rando,
Shawn Alexander, the Seahawks.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
No Toimes, No, Seaton, say Peyton Manning, Peyton. No, Okay,
there are five running backs who topped the list. They

(02:50):
one had seven losses, one had six, another had six,
two had five. Marvin raised his hand quickly. Adrian Peterson
second on the list. Vikings went ten and six in
twenty twelve, Paul Barry Sanders Barry Sanders, Yes ninety seven,

(03:11):
nineteen ninety seven, and the Lions coincidentally went nine and seven.
Marshall falk Rams lost six games in two thousand. Walter Payton, come,
come on, not as well? True we went nine and five. O. J.
Simpson nine and five. The first quarterback on the list. Well,

(03:31):
they're all quarterbacks who went eleven and five. You had
Matt Ryan, you had Rich Gannon, Brett Barbe, Brian Sipe,
and then Earl Campbell in there. They went eleven and five.
Stead of the day, Sat of the day, best dab
of the day, stat of the day. Here comes what

(03:55):
seat of the day? All right, Seaton Polk la student
for hour two, as we clean up what happened in
hour one.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah, let's clean up our one a little bit, shall we.
We had a worst loss in college football up there
for hour one. Tennessee BYU LSU right now BYU has
about half of that vote followed very closely though by LSU.
Nobody really too upset about the balls.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Well, the BYU situation. I mean, that's a big loss.
But there were a lot of people jumping on Kansas late, late,
before that game started. All of a sudden, it was like,
all right, because I'd pick Kansas to upset BYU. And
there were a lot of Vegas sharps who jumped on
that as well, or maybe they jumped on it far
sooner than I did. All right, so nothing, no news

(04:44):
out of Jacksonville. There's a bye week and the Lines
beat him fifty two to six. I think, if you're
gonna go with Bill Belichick next year, let's say the
rumors or the chatter going around the league that Belichick
would go, there, are you go to fire Doug Peterson
Before then? We've looked at Jacksonville's schedule the rest of

(05:04):
the year. They can win just about every game except
one maybe the Texans. They wouldn't win that game, but
they got blown out. The Lions have won nine of
their first ten games. Last time that happened nineteen thirty four,
when the Lions went undefeated, but the big game was
the Buffalo Bills. They have won six in a row.

(05:25):
They ended Kansas City's fifteen game winning streak if you
include the postseason. And Josh Allen all has seventy two
career regular season wins, tied with Joe Flacco for the
third most by a quarterback in his first seven years.
Who has more wins? Who's number one on that list

(05:45):
most wins first seven games of a career Paul first
seven games or seven years? Seven years? Okay, I'll go
Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson, blew oop bloop, followed by Patrick
Mahomes and then Josh Allen and of course Joe Flacco. Okay,

(06:07):
so what's poll question for an hour two gonna be?

Speaker 4 (06:09):
See, well, we put up there a worse loss this weekend.
We got Ravens, Bengals or Tightson. Right now, fifty one
percent of that audience have the Bengals losses worse?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
I would put Netflix up there. I think Netflix. That's
a big l by Netflix. And then in six weeks
you're going to be broadcasting NFL games. That's a loss
Dog that that was embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yes, well, that's the problem is that not only do
you have those like this, the issues with the buffering
and all that stuff, but you could immediately point to
another massive event right down the road that people are.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Gonna be looking forward to it.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
You're like, oh, oh not good.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, yes, Paul.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
It was so drastically awkward, and I think a lot
of people were in the same boat. I was standing
in front of a sixty five inch good television with
my phone because the television Wi Fi was not working
of the neighborhood we're in, but my cell phone signal
worked decent enough to get the fight in blips. I'm
pretty sure I was three or four minutes behind the
rest of the country. But like, it's weird to be

(07:09):
holding a six inch phone where you're have a sixty
five inch TV that won't get the signal.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
That's what was awkward. You can't be a behemoth, you
can't be a billion million multi billion dollar company, and
you want to play with the big boys, and then
you with like this, you have to look at oh boy,
there has to be troubleshooting along the way to say
what if? What if? All of the great producers and

(07:37):
directors I've worked with NBC Mothership, what if you have
to have what ifs? And it just felt like, hey,
we'll just get on there and start talking and we'll
show some fights and then we'll come back. Like Roy
Jones Junior, I don't know if he was up to
date on current fighters, technical issues, the streaming part of

(07:58):
that buffering. I thought if you heard the word buffering,
it was you know, Michael Buffer had something to do
with it.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Time.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Let's get ready to have a scripted fight.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Let's get ready for technical difficult hey is? Yes, see, No,
it seems like.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
A lot of the streaming platforms who have decided to
dip their toes into live programming have struggled right out.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Of the game.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a little more tricky than that.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Yeah, turns out, Yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I mean you have people who do this, and they
do it. You know, this is a one off for
Netflix and then you're gonna have football games here. It's
like Amazon. Amazon, You've got billions and billions and billions
of dollars, but you have to get the right people
in there who know how to do this. And Amazon
they had a rough first, you know, a couple of

(08:54):
seasons there. Technically, the sound quality, yeh see.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
That's why I like so many podcast that I'll listen
to everybody and their brother in television has a podcast,
and nobody seems to hire radio people to do that
podcast for them. True, because it's podcasting is an audio medium.
It's something that radio people should be doing. And you
have everybody and their brother doing a TV show and like,
oh yeah, we also have a podcast, and they all

(09:18):
sound like crap because nobody a TV pays attention to
the way that things sound.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Invest in a great microphone. If you're going to do
a podcast, you've got to have a great microphone. I
don't care what the background looks, none of that, because
it's all about this sound. I mean, you can have
a beautiful car, but you can have four flat tires.
And that's what it sounds like in some podcasts because
they didn't spend the extra money on a great microphone.

(09:46):
And if you do, then you can sound like this.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yes, going back to the streaming thing, there's always articles
out there that say, within six or seven years, the
Super Bowl will be on a paid service and I'll
be streamed. You know, it's inevitable, but things this make
you realize. This is a goofy fight of Tyson and
Jake Paul. Imagine if they tried to do the Super
Bowl on a streaming service and ran into this. I mean,
people will they'd be galactic, you say, people are mad

(10:12):
about this is a joke fight the super Bowl?

Speaker 6 (10:15):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I mean this was an event. This was just sort
of a thing. This wasn't real. Now you get to
the super Bowl and all of a sudden you're going,
wait a minute, we can't watch the super Bowl. Wait.
I got to watch it on my phone. And I
know we're a long way away from that. But this
goes to show you can have all the money. You
got to have the right people, and you must rehearse

(10:37):
over and over and over. We rehearsed all the time
on Football Night in America, and we had done it,
you know, done ten years of shows. But you have
to you can't go out. We're good with this, right,
you're not? And then doing a super Bowl. You don't
want to sit there and go, oh god, we gotta

(10:58):
do this. You do. And that's hopefully they've learned that that.
I mean, they should be embarrassed by that. I'm sure
they're embarrassed by that. Yes, Paul, the other people who
rehearsed for Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, Wow, Wow, stay
with the bit wow. And yes, Jake Paul did take
it easy on Mike Tyson. I don't think that Jake

(11:20):
Paul is as much of a heel and a villain
he wants to be. He did not want to knock
out Mike Tyson, and I understand that, and I give
him credit for that because he hand picked Mike, and
he realized that Mike was a wounded animal in there
and he was not going to finish the job. And
I'm glad that he didn't. Mike got to walk out,

(11:41):
and he talked about his family being able to see
him fight, and I just I was concerned about that. Yes,
Ton not a big Jake.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
Paul fan, but I did like in the post conference
he gave his flowers to Tyson and you know, went
over and beyond the show and you know, saying all
the right things. At least he wasn't like a jerk
or anything, and he was just very complimentary to Tyson.
How what an honor it was. Hopefully he meant what
he was saying. Just to be in the ring, even
though it's not Mike Tyson and his prime.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Well actors are you know, they're used to doing that
compliment each other just a great actor. You know. It's
like when you compliment the person who didn't win the
Academy Award and you're like, oh my gosh. You know
Daniel day Lewis, I mean he is the goat. I
mean he called Tyson the goat. Mike's not the goat.
Mike is one of the more interesting phenomenons in sports.

(12:27):
But he wasn't. He's not the goat and not a
great fighter. But I wanted to see him at least
go the distance. By the way, I talked about the Dolphins.
They're four and six. They have to play at the Packers,
at the Texans. They also have the Niners, but they
play the Patriots Browns, and then they play the Jets twice.
There's a there's a chance, there's a chance they get

(12:50):
the nine wins. Nine wins gonna get you in. And
I did watch. I mean, I'm fascinated by Tua. I
have to admit I am watching, and I'm watching just
to see if he takes matters into his own hands,
if he avoids getting hit, doesn't scramble, you know, all
of those things. I'm okay if Josh Allen wants to run,

(13:10):
I'm not Okay, if Tua wants to run, David Arkansas
is back, Hi, Dave.

Speaker 8 (13:17):
They call me Pittsford Dave, And I've got a best
on them worse and I've got an invitation for you
guys now, wor's of the weekend? Wor's of the weekend.
I figure Netflix must have been thinking, Hey, we watched
all the rest of the Typson fights and standard dep
why should this one be any different? But best is

(13:38):
clearly Chris Boswell. He is the second coming of Mark Moseley.
Let's get the MVP race wrapped up right now. Chris
Boswell number nine, he is, He's the best. There's no
more talk about Justin Tucker, no more talk about Harrison Butcher.
Chris Boswell is the best kicker in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
End of story, Yeah, I know Justin Tucker. What happened
like that was nobody better than him? Most accurate kicker
in NFL history. I mean, and then you're watching, You're going, wow,
what happened? Because if he does what he's supposed to do,
you're winning that game. Yeah, poling.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Justin Tucker has been to All Pro five times, Pro
Bowl eight times, nine times. He usually gets about ninety
three percent of his field goals on the average season.
He's had some seasons where he's at ninety seven all
field goals. This year he's at seventy two percent, worst
of his career by fifteen percent.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Is the Christmas Day schedule for Netflix? Chiefs Steelers, Ravens Texans.
Does that sound right? Because can you imagine if you're
it's one thing to be watching a boxing event. Now,
you didn't have to pay for that, it wasn't pay
per view, its just Netflix. But if you're watching football
on Christmas Day on Netflix, Chief Steelers, Ravens, Texans, and

(15:03):
you have a problem there. Wow, that's where I'm canceling Netflix. Yes, Bully.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Well, last year NBC did the AFC Wildcard Game and
that was at the time, I think, the most live
streamed sports event in history. And I looked at the reviews.
They didn't have any issues. They it was clean and
didn't have buffering problems. I'm sure there are little things,
but like it got through completely clean. NBC is high
on the production value.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Well, we'll talk to a TV insider and get his
thoughts on Netflix and also inside the NBA got a
new This is a win win for everybody, Charles and
Company going to the Mothership next year. We'll talk to
Steve Young, but we'll have that conversation coming up a
little bit later on. We'll take a break. More phone

(15:53):
calls as well. We're back after this.

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Speaker 2 (16:07):
Joe Burrow is the first quarterback in NFL history to
lose three games in a season when throwing for at
least three hundred yards, at least three touchdowns, zero interceptions.
In fact, only nine quarterbacks in NFL history have lost
multiple games in a season while throwing for three hundred yards,
three touchdowns, zero interceptions.

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So Joe Burrow, Davis Mills with the Texans, Deshaun Watson,
Daniel Jones, who has officially gotten benched for what's his name,
Tommy DeVito, Tommy Salami. He's going to start for the Giants,
Matt Ryan did it Ben Roethlisberger, Alex Smith, Jeff Garcia,

(17:02):
and Jim Everett. Now, prior to this season, when Joe
Burrow put up those numbers, he was four and one.
But he's zero and three and I think twenty seven
touchdowns maybe four interceptions, which is Aaron Rodgers, like Jeff
in Detroit is back. I Jeff, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 9 (17:21):
Well? What's going on? Fellas? I miss you guys. Been
working hard, man, Gotta adjust these hours up so I
can get in on the show. But I have been listening.
Great appearance on What the Football with Amy Shuster and
Susie Trash with Amy and Susie. I know that you
have a Coyle Boys Curtains sweatshirt coming. It got to
be in the Worst, Man. That was a heck of

(17:43):
a line that you dropped. Best the worst of the weekend.
My best is gonna be the Detroit Lions. I'm kind
of like Stephanie Mills right now. I never knew love
like this before. I'm in a weird position. Everybody is
saying We're going to the super Bowl. It's just surreal
because I'm so used to being an Alliance fan. My
worst is going to be both My coordinators is going

(18:04):
to be gone. Azelone is out kind of hurts. I
want to give an honorary bloop to Paul Papps. You
asked the question a while back before My Time had
made the switch. Who would the guys take? Everybody's the
field tooles fields all except Paul Papps, So I'll give
him a blue bloop on that one.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, but Paul is Paul's a Russell Wilson apologist, though
he couldn't go against his guy loyalists. A loyalist my
past a positive version, that's right, I said, apologies, you're
a loyalist. I'm the same, is what you are. I'm
looking at some of the details here on. You know
what's going to happen with Inside the NBA going to

(18:44):
ABC and ESPN. They're going to continue to produce the
show in Atlanta, so that means Charles Shaq, Ernie Kenny
will stay with the show, but they're going to move
over there. And ESPN has always been looking for their
pregame show to match TMT. Well, if you can't beat them,

(19:05):
have them join you. That's exactly what you did. All
you do is you just leased the show. You put
a new sign out front, fresh paint in your It's like,
that's our pregame show. Having done the pregame halftime show
at the Mothership, you know you're trying to compete with
something that is a juggernaut. You can't find Shack and

(19:26):
you can't find Charles. They're just not there. Now you
can try. I always thought the problem was you're trying
to emulate that. It's like Stephen A. Smith and his
show or you have pardon the interruption, like you can't
emulate that because you can't get those personalities McAfee. There's
only one, and I think that's the biggest difference. Yes, Pauline,

(19:49):
what I don't understand. I've read about this a lot,
and you've talked about a lot. You know more than
I do about this with TNT, and I want to
know from anew Marshall, why did TNT want to get
out of the NBA busines and lose such a classic show.
I would like to know more about that past two
years of that. Yeah, well then you had the guy
who heads up their negotiations saying we can live without

(20:11):
the NBA. If I'm the commissioner, Adam Silver, I'm like, wait,
what did you say we can live without Okay, good
luck with that.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah, But at the same time, we've spent a lot
of time talking about how the NBA's ratings are going down,
not up, And so while that TV show is awesome,
it only comes with paying for all those other games,
and maybe that's getting out of whack as a business model.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Unless you can come up with programming that will get
more dollars and get better ratings. And I don't know
if you can. I mean, TNT, what does TNT have
And if they're in the sports business, they're sort of
in the sports business. This kept your relevant, But I mean,
I don't know what their game plan is. I just
know that there were a lot of other networks who

(20:57):
were willing to go all in NBC and p Amazon,
everybody wanted a piece of the NBA, and for some reason,
TMT's like, well, you know, unless it was a negotiating ploy,
like we can survive without them, Yes, yes, Marvin.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
We'relaxed DP.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
TNT has plenty of charmed episodes.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Oh and Risolian isles that Angie Harmon got there on her.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Oh man, I remember when we had Angie Harmon on
a couple of times. She was married to Jason C. Horn. Yes,
they were too good looking as a couple. You couldn't
look directly at him. Yeah. Yeah. But Angie Hormon, she
she was she a lottery pick there, Yes, Paul.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
When she was a prosecutor on Law and Order, I
would have committed the crime just to be prosecuted by her.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
I would have. I don't know, Jay walked whatever. Yeah,
I was guilty of something. I didn't know what I
was guilty of. That's for sure. To throw myself on
the mercy of her court. He's a Hall of Famer
and a b y U grad. Oh sorry about b
yuse goodwild lasted Steve's focus.

Speaker 10 (22:01):
I heard you pick Kansas man. That's just like a
random pick. We played terrible.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
No, but I don't have a bias here. I just
just felt.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
I just felt it. Yeah. Yeah, that's all eye tests. Sorry,
iye tests. Well, Yeah, that was we were terrible. Sorry
about that.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah. Yeah, you're still in the mix.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Still the mix. It's fun.

Speaker 10 (22:24):
It's fun to be in fun. It's fun to get
out of independence and get in the mix. Uh, yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
If can you explain the Joe Burrow situation here of
twenty seven touchdowns, four interceptions. You said, three games of
over three hundred yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions. Statistically, it's
almost impossible to lose those games. How is it happening?

Speaker 10 (22:49):
It's all the classic stuff, you know, you know the game.
I mean, I don't want to be like the old man,
get off my yard, but I mean the game. Because
of safety, they don't have as much time together O
TA a couple of tas, you know, a couple of
weeks of no hitting, summer camp and let's play some
ball and that's more college you like, right, and so

(23:09):
the game has been simplified, and so you know, you
have these kings that can do some amazing things, but
there's just just bad defense, penalties, big mistakes, classic football
stuff that you can't get over. And the Bengals, I mean,
they have a history of that, right, they just seems
like they never put it all together. Now they did

(23:29):
obviously for the Super Bowl run, but it's hard to
think that you got Joe Burrow playing lights out football
and you can't win everyone. I think what you got
to do is not look at Joe Burrow. You probably
have to look at everyone else, including we don't do
a good job of looking at the owner either in
the NFL, and I think we should do more of
that personally because I think it speaks to a lot

(23:52):
of what's happening on the field. Of course, we can't
fire the owners, and you know the equity owners in
the league who have made half a billion dollars a
year for the last twenty years in equity value. So
it's not like I'm not saying it's the owner's fault.
I'm just saying when things look really weird, go to
the top and then work down kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Josh Allen running the football. I mean we've talked about
this that if he were playing now you you'd be
running more. But I think when he runs I feel
safer for him running than I do. You know a
lot of these quarterbacks because he's so big, but the
design runs or are they design runs? And how does

(24:35):
he run maybe differently than other quarterbacks.

Speaker 10 (24:39):
Well, he's I you skier, Dan, I mean, skiers understand
how to get to the ground. You know, bad skiers
blow their knees out right. Good skiers get to the
ground and they don't They know how to get to
the ground, and there is a talent to it.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
There's a knack.

Speaker 10 (24:54):
I think it's natural in some people's instincts and others
can learn it. And he just has a knack of
getting to the ground in a safe way. That's despite
the fact that he could be acrobatic at it too.
And I know I see that in him. Even when
he's jumping over somebody, he's looking to get to the ground. Strangely,
I know it sounds a little weird, but and I think.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
That they're not. They're not.

Speaker 10 (25:14):
They're putting in the ball, the ball in his hands
out of the huddle some which is cool. But like
the end of the game yesterday, I mean, that's just
him winning the football game. But that is football today.
That's he is the prototype, Patrick prototype, Lamar prototype. If
you don't have closer, I've always said the NFL, because

(25:34):
of the rule changes in safety, it's more like the NBA.
You know, it's three and a half quarters of whatever,
and then there's who's who's got a closer. Who's got
the guys in the NBA that can go close the
last couple of possessions and to make it happen and inevitably.
Look at Jordan Love yesterday, look at Gino Smith yesterday.
Look at you know with Josh Allen. I mean the

(25:57):
games are being the big games are being won by
the guys that are sophisticated passers. You have to be
that in the NFL. You have to be a sophisticated passer.
You can't play without it. But you also have to
be somebody who can be a closer and go make
those games and make it happen. That's why Patrick Mahomes
has done it for forever, and that's why that was
such an epic football game yesterday.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
I don't about you.

Speaker 10 (26:20):
It was fun to watch really good football, both even defensively,
like innovation. What they were doing with protection and what
they're doing with blitz is what they were doing on offense.
Both coaches pouring out everything they have against each other.
That was a good watch yesterday with Bill's Chiefs.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
I loved it.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Did it change your opinion on who's the team to
beat in the AFC?

Speaker 5 (26:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (26:43):
I mean, look, the Super Bowls are going to be one.
I said three four years ago, the Super Bowls are
going to be one over the next ten years. Between
Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, and Patrick Mahomes, it's going to
go around in a circle. Well it hasn't gone around
a circle. It's stuck on one guy. But I still
believe the same. Now Lamar Jackson is gonna jump in
the middle of it. He's gonna say, look, you're gonna

(27:03):
it's gonna be a Now Joe Burrow can't get enough
help to get it done.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
So Lamar Jackson is gonna be one of them. So
it's just gonna go.

Speaker 10 (27:09):
Those are the guys gonna win the Super Bowls because
those are the guys that can go close in the
biggest games. And so yes, you can say, Josh Allen,
the Bills are favorites and have proved it on the field.
And but again it's in some ways if they're at
home and they get to skip one of one of
the games, Like those three guys are gonna have to
play each other. I've always said the guy that has

(27:30):
to play the other twice doesn't have a chance. You
can't beat each other twice, you can beat each other once. Uh,
And so I think that's why the Bills are favorites
right now.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Steve Young the Hall of Famer joining is so the
Niner is still a Super Bowl contender.

Speaker 10 (27:46):
Yeah, I want to say, yes, obviously getting healthy, but
how healthy can you get Defensively? We're in the we're
in the middle of the pack, maybe a little bit
of above average offensively in the red zone we used
to yesterday last year, you know the stat that blew
my mind. I don't know if you and I have
talked about this, but last year, behind the line of

(28:09):
scrimmage passes screens quick, you know, all that kind of
jet sweep. So I mean not just we with all
this quick passes behind the line of scrimmage, they averaged
They led the league in yards per attempt by throwing
behind the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
Last year.

Speaker 10 (28:24):
It was an incredible run, incredible year of things just working,
all the talent just amazing. And this year, you know,
they're not even close to that red zone, not even
close to what they were last year. So they're not
acting like a team that's going to threaten, especially if
you talk about the biggest game. I guess one of
the big three Lamar, Josson, and Patrick. But they played

(28:45):
the Bills in a couple of weeks, Dan and I
think it's worth paying attention to that game to see
if we can get right.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
What is it like to be on the sidelines when
you're watching a closer on the field and you can
do nothing.

Speaker 10 (29:00):
Well, I think it's awesome, right, I think you're.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Watching somebody close at your tab.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
I mean, I love you know.

Speaker 10 (29:09):
Bill wats is the one that told me, see, if
you can become a sophisticated passer and can run, it's
the ultimate weapon. And that was what nineteen eighty seven,
most of everyone else was looking at me like I
was a you know, like audit oddity, Like he's left,
he will get him off the field. He's a scrambler,
he saws, you know, like you know. And in today's game,

(29:32):
it is so it's so fun for me to watch
the guys that have become sophisticated. I mean, Patrick Mahomes
and Josh Allen are sophisticated passers of the football. You
can they can stand up against anybody who's ever thrown
the ball from the pocket. But they have the ability
that had because the game has come to them and
it's more wide open. Remember the rule changes, Dan, I
don't know if we talked about. I'm sure we have.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
The rule changes.

Speaker 10 (29:53):
When they didn't let defense or defenders launch anymore, it
essentially made the field bigger like a Canadian league field.
It was just more space than those guys are filling
it up with their with their bodies and their legs,
which is pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
How do you do you remember being upset at your kicker,
but but you can't verbalize it, Like you have to
be careful with the camera is going to be on
the quarterback if your kicker misses some kicks there? How
how do you disguise that?

Speaker 5 (30:23):
Such an odd thing?

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Dan?

Speaker 10 (30:24):
A kicker when he gets on the bus, You're like,
who's that guy? Oh yeah, he's our kicker. I forgot
about him because they don't practice with you. They don't
really do anything. You know, you break down the you
break down the end of practice. They're not there. Every
once in a while, you do some kicking in front
of the whole team, and everybody's like, if he misses,
I'm gonna you know, you think it is a commodity.
And the kickers are getting so good, Dan today that

(30:45):
a fifty five year old fifty yard field goal is
now kind of a commodity. It's like, oh yeah, they'll
make that. So in that way, the expectations have gone
even higher. And when people miss and when they lose games.
There's nothing worse than being a kicker. I would never
do it. They can't get paid enough to you know,
do nothing, warm up, sit around for three hours, then

(31:06):
go out there and say, you know, eight eighty thousand
people just screaming in your earball and now you got
to drill one from fifty eight oh with a wet field.
And you know, it's like, forget that job. That's like,
that's like Olympic gymnastics. Run down the runway.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Split footblow land.

Speaker 10 (31:22):
Oh you took a step, Sorry, go home, We'll see
you later, good luck. That was awesome, ten years of preparation,
Sorry about that. That's that's not a job.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
I want.

Speaker 10 (31:32):
I want to be able to throw the ball in
a general vicinity of Jerry Rice and have him just
go fix it all.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
That's what I want, Okay, I want a yes or
no answer. Are kickers football players? Of course?

Speaker 10 (31:44):
They're football players in fact, in fact the best ones. Now, look,
I will tell you this. Kickers that will go clean
up or there the guys that will go tackle, like
you got to play football. I love quarterbacks, throw interception,
guys running for six, go chase it down. And clean
it up. That's that's part of the job. So, yes,
they're on the field, they're making big plays. And the

(32:06):
clutch kickers frick that I've just told you that's amazing.
So yeah, but I want kickers to go clean it up.
Like if something had block field, go go clean it up.
And I appreciate people that if you put the pads on,
you got to make a tackle, go chase it down
and make it happen.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I don't want my quarterback chasing down somebody because you
threw an interception.

Speaker 10 (32:26):
Dan, I know, I know, you know the fantasy people
know who going get injured and get careful your mom,
all the moms out there, Oh don't do it. Come on, man,
we gotta play the game, bro, and you've got to
clean up your mess. That's just fundamental to quarterbacking. If
I see a quarterback throw an interception and guy's going
for six and he doesn't even try, kind of a
couple jogs and then says, oh storry or he could

(32:49):
have made a tackle, but runs out of bounds and trips.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
No, no, you know.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
How many career you know how many career tackles you had?
Tell me zero you had zero career tackles.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
That's false.

Speaker 10 (33:06):
I tackled your flipped Sanders after uh Me, I chased
down I chased down some guys and I when I
tackled them all those sidelines like, damn, bro, he ran
you down like some people down.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well, I know you could do that. I know you
could run people down. I had the official NFL stats.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
I tackles, you can win. I'm sending you the clip
right now. It's like I was. I was drafted by
the Dodgers. I told you I was.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
You were, Paulie. What do you What do you have
for me? I have a couple of things.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
According to Football Reference dot Com the official stats, you
have no tackles.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
But I have the.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Video and you you flipped Deon Sanders over exactly.

Speaker 10 (33:46):
And I'm telling you I made a tackle against the
Bengals at all. I can remember them because I had
to go clean up my mess.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Daniel, Okay, But when Peyton Manning would go into a
fetal position after throwing a pick, you had a problem
with that, Yes, of course I did.

Speaker 10 (34:01):
I look, I want to see the film of that,
because I don't think I don't think Peyton would do that.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
I think Peyton.

Speaker 10 (34:08):
His his his instinct is to go I can't believe
that Peyton's instinct does not go clean it up.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
Absolutely, he.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Can't understand that.

Speaker 10 (34:19):
But I look, all I want is the intent. Like
Tom would throw a interception. You could see Tom would
start and go, I'm going to clean it and then
he's like, okay, maybe not, but he would. Was there
the intent?

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Could you run backwards faster than Peyton Manning could run forward?

Speaker 5 (34:34):
I don't know. I don't know Peyton, they're both they're
both sneaky. But you know, you.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Could add backwards faster than he could run for it.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
And I'm not going to get in I'm not going
to get into that one.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Dion could run faster backwards, yes, and yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
Yeah, Dean was faster than everybody.

Speaker 10 (34:54):
In fact, I would not throw it over towards him
sometimes because I couldn't. You know how your eye you
get used to stuff, You get it like it just
makes sense. It's rational to the human brain. Dion would
move and it wouldn't. It's like you like hyperspace, like
you just Also, he was in a new place. I'm like,
whoa wait, wait, my eyeball did not figure that one out.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
So I could thrown over a little bit like I.

Speaker 10 (35:16):
If I can't rationalize about where his body is and
where I can throw it, then I'm just not going
to touch it.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
Dude, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
That's great. Yep uh. One of the great tacklers in
NFL history Hall of Famers, Steve Young. Great to talk
with your mess, stenough your mess, clean up your mess.
Thank you, buddy, Sey. We'll take a break. We'll come
back after this.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
WAP Time to give you our best and worst of
the weekend. You know what I had yesterday, very very underrated.
I had some food, very underrated. In fact, hated it
growing up because my mom didn't make it well. And
I just I just decided that I was going all
in on it. Paulie, I think I got it. Green beans, Okay, No,

(36:09):
I love green beans, Marvin meat loaf, Oh boy, blue
blue nice.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
It was either that or I went to a restaurant,
an English pub, and they had Thanksgiving dinner, Turkey dinner.
They had meat loaf, they had bangers in mash and
they had beer on tap, and I said, I'm home.
I am home, and I had the meat loaf and
it was spectacular, Yes, Paul.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
So their version of Thanksgiving dinner was all the English
classics like bangers and mash, meat.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Love not turkey. No, you have a turkey dinner? Oh
they had turkey is separate? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's separate.
They had unbelievable menu and beer on tap. And I said,
I sat at the bar and eventually a guy got
around to saying anybody ever told you? I go yep,
and he goes, I didn't finish the sentence. I go, don't.
You don't have to and he goes, sound like Dan Patrick?

(37:07):
And I said yes, and they say I look like
him as well. So I was there, had a great time,
and that's as good as you can have for me.
That was j weekend.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
Did you do a fight?

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Did you call a fight?

Speaker 8 (37:19):
All?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Righty? How about best and worst of the weekend? Todd,
Let me start with you.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
Best.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
Sacramento Kings guard to Aaron Fox follows a sixty point
game against the Tea Walls Friday night with another forty
nine on Saturday against the Jazz So how about the
Aaron Fox and your Sacramento Kings.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Worst of the weekend?

Speaker 6 (37:36):
LSU loses its third straight game, falling to a four
and five from arta team in the Swamp by double
digit Sally Tigers six and four, eighth in the SEC.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
We haven't won all of our games, Seaton, how about you?
Best and worst of the weekend?

Speaker 4 (37:51):
My best of the weekend was basically the Chiefs losing,
because that was a win for everybody in the whole league.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Was this an anti nick right pick by you?

Speaker 1 (38:01):
That?

Speaker 6 (38:01):
Not?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Really?

Speaker 4 (38:02):
But it was kind of like every week you're like,
why are they still winning? They're so beatable? The Chiefs
are so beatable, And somebody finally cracked that code, and
I was like, man, it's about time. My other best
came out of that game, too, was Patrick Mahomes post
game saying to Josh Allen like, all right, we'll do
it again, baby, like, oh man, just knowing that they're

(38:25):
gonna they're gonna meet up again. Yes, And it's almost
like that same point of me before it made go ahead,
try and do it twice in a season.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
But but it was so cold blooded by Mahomes, That's
what I love. It was now I don't think he
meant it that way, but to me, it was like, hey,
let's let's do this again.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Like sometimes unintentionally cold blooded is way more ruthless than.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
When he meant it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
It wasn't one of those hey I'd love to do
this again. It's like, hey, we do this again. Yeah,
we'll see you again.

Speaker 11 (38:56):
Best and Worst Best at the Weekend Saints Legend future
Hall of Famer Taysom Hill seven carries one hundred and
thirty eight yards three touchdowns as they beat the Cleveland
Browns in the worst game of the weekend and worst
game of the weekend. Worst of the Weekend the UFC card.
The main event started at one five am, and they

(39:16):
were in New York. Most times it's late start they're
in Vegas, so I could see that, but that was
just terrible.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I mean, if this is Lauren Hill or Madonna getting
ready for a concert, I understand if you're three hours late,
but this is UFC in New York. I was invited
to go to that and I said no, no, I
mean I would have left at nine nine.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Paul bestin Worst the ASU Sun Devil's football program. They
are making some noise. They've had good uniforms for years.
Kenny Dillingham, good coach Cam Scatibow. The running back is fun.
They beat Kansas State. They're in lightly the playoff discussion
worst of the weekend. I feel bad for DO football.
It doesn't seem like that long ago. They were beating

(40:02):
Ohio State in that game. Rondell Moore and those guys.
They're one to nine oh and seven in the Big Ten.
But worse than that. The only pub they've gotten recently
is that their end zone and then the outside of
the end zone was both painted black, so the receiver
didn't know which was which.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
He was so proud that he had caught a touchdown pass,
but he's so far out of bounds because you had
the white line there. But the end zone is black,
and then what borders the end zone was black with
a pre don't oh, how about that one ton?

Speaker 11 (40:33):
It was nice.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
They were predumed from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Okay, Blue Blue, when we come back, How did ESPN
land inside the NBA? And how confident are you about
Netflix moving forward with sporting events? Final Hour in this
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