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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome to the program. It's the final hour on this Wednesday,
Dan and the Dan. It's Dan Patrick Show. Glad to
have you on board. We'll check in on the mess
that is the Jets and a report in The Athletic
Diana Rossini and Zach Rosenblat had that that the owner
got involved. Oh, the owner gets involved. He's the one
who decided to fire the head coach without telling the GM,
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and he's the one who fired the GM yesterday. And
he was also the one who wanted to bench s
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the final hour, the program is going to be what
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let me update you here real quick.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
A New York team in better shape right now. The
Giants have about seventy five.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Percent of that vote. Now Jets are just a mess.
That's really terrible. Well badly about that, not really.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We have one here from Paul most physically talented quarterback
of all time, that we're gonna have to pay get
this down to four, which is gonna be tough.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
John l Way certainly on there. Aaron Rodgers of course
has to be on there.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Aaron Rodgers is on that list.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, John l Way.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, you got Michael Vick, Randall Cunningham, Steve Young, Lamar Jackson,
there's a lot of Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I don't think you can put four candidates on there.
I think there are too many athletic quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
We may have to do like two separate polls and
then put it down to four. Because Randall Cuttingham, it's
not about stats or Super bowls. Randall Cuttingham is right
up top with me, and so it's Steve Young and
John Elwie. While his arm is maybe the greatest of
all time, you know that. Dan, I don't know if
the running can get him in the same category or
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lack of running.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I don't think he relied on running as much as
the other quarterbacks. Yeah, he's more than Rogers type. He
was able to. He was kind of opportunistic when he ran.
But back then you weren't running Steve Young, and they
were like, stop running, you got to be a pocket cornerback.
So Steve had to kind of teach himself how to
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play quarterback where he wouldn't take off after you know,
you'd look over here, that's not there, and then you
take off and then all of a sudden, it's like, man,
if he becomes a pocket passer, he could be a
Hall of Famer. And he certainly turned out to be
all right. So we'll settle on a poll question for
the final hour of the program. Is Zach there the yes,
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he's there, Todd, Thank you, Zach Rosenblatt with the athletic Zach.
You and Dinah were SENI you're chopping it up a
little bit here with the Jets situation. Let me start
with the firing of Joe Douglas. Did Joe Douglas have
a chance to keep this job? No?
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I think it was always heading this way. You know,
they went all in on this season, all in on
Aaron Rodgers. When it falls apart so spectacular like it did,
and when what he's coming out and saying things like,
you know, this is the best roster we've ever had
since I've owned this team, and they still keep losing,
and you know, he made the decision to fire Robert
Solid because he wanted to provide a spark and the
spark never came. So Joe Douglas the last year of
his contract, they've never made the playoffs in six years
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he was headed towards his exit.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Okay, but why now?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
I think now it allows them to, like, you know,
they know he's not coming back, So this allows them
to at least start putting out feelers, start researching who
their next GM might be, because they're going to hire
the GM first and then they'll hire the head coach,
as my impression, and so this gets them a little
bit of a head start.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But the owners involved in this, according to what you
and Diana are reporting, Woody Johnson is heavy handed with
Aaron Rodgers benching him, firing the coach and not even
telling the GM, and then firing the GM. Any chance
you can replace Woody Johnson if you're the Jets.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I mean technically they might if he goes to join
Donald Trump's administration again for the next four years. And
then you have Christopher probably managing the day to day operations.
But you know it didn't necessarily work out last time
that happened either, So but it ultimately all starts to
the top, like that's just where all.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
The problems start. Is with Woody and so, and I
don't see him leaving anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Okay, but let's just apply logic of you want to
bench Aaron Rodgers. He was out all last year, everybody
was waiting for him, and he didn't play well. But
now you're going to bench him and think that's going
to provide a spark or give me the logic behind
the his thought process. I guess to bench Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Well, I would see your mistake is trying to apply logic.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
But what I would say is, like Woody, to his
credit or detriment, I don't know, depending on your perspective,
he focuses on results over process all the time. Like
I know, Bill Belichick kind of made fun of him
and said he goes ready fire aim all the time.
And I think that's kind of where he's at. So
he's like, Okay, we love Aaron Rodgers. He has a
bad game against the Broncos. Okay, why is Aaron Rodgers bad?
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And you know Aaron Rodgers has a good game, They
move on, they trade for Devontae Adams, like and it's
like week by week, day by day with him. A
lot of the time. I think I don't think he
sees the full picture. I think he looks at what's
right in front of him. And that's why over the years,
when the Jets have had like a good season, like
in you know, twenty fifteen, they go ten and six,
they go all in that offseason and fails, you know,
twenty twenty two, this year, the last couple of years,
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A couple of years ago, they started off really well,
looked like they had some promise, went all in Aaron Rodgers,
and you understand why they did, but it obviously did
not work out.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Is this an attractive job being the head coach of
the Jets in the offseason?
Speaker 7 (05:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:44):
I mean that's that's the question they're gonna to answer.
I would say, if you're stacking it up with the
other jobs that are likely going to be available, I
don't think it would be the most appeal Like if
you're looking at like a you know, a Mike Rabele
of Ben Johnson, these guys that are going to be
at the top of every list. If you're weighing two situations,
are you going to go to an organization that number
one probably doesn't have a quarterback and you have an
owner who medals and you know who knows who the
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GM is going to be, Like, there's.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
A lot against it.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
They do have talent on this team, there's things you
can build around, but there's a lot of factors that
are going to be held against them as these like
coaches are weighing you know, Jets or you know, Cowboys
Jets or whatever it is, Jaguars like these teams, Like
you have to weigh that part of it for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
The quarterbacking situation moving forward, who will be well Aaron
Rodgers be the quarterback next year in your opinion.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I think there was a point where Aaron himself would
have said that he'd only come back if there's some continuity,
you know, whether it's Jeff Ulbrick or Joe Douglas or
solid before that, if they came back, he'd come back.
Everybody's gone now Oldbrick's not coming back as that coach.
And then on top of that, I don't know that
Wood he wants Aaron back next year, So I think
it might be a mutual parting. You know, It's it's
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just crazy how quickly the tone changes around here, because
you know, you here Aaron Rodgers. They believe in like
January where he's saying, you know, I could play three
or four more years.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
And you know, it does not look like he's going
to last that long because.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I don't know where they're going to be in the draft,
and if they're going to draft a quarterback again, is
Aaron rodd How big a cap hit is Aaron Rodgers
if he doesn't come back.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
So he doesn't have any guaranteed money left after this year,
they would have like a big, big dead cap hit
that they'd have to inherit if they cut him. But
that's money already paid to him. So he only has
like a twenty million dollar cap in next year. So
ultimately it's not like a huge deal if they move
on from him. But you know, they don't have a
lot of options. It's not a great free agency class,
not supposed to be a great draft class, so it's
not like the best year to be needing a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I say, well, we're offering up Sam Darnald Zach because
Minnesota move on from him with JJ McCarthy. Can we
bring Sam Darnald back to the scene of the crime
where he played with the Jets and now he's going
to play with the Giants. What do you think.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
I mean, that would be something I just don't I
don't see Sam putting himself in that position again though.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Is it just a poorly run organization?
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Yeah, I mean I think you look at the track record,
you know, just look at the facts. It's fourteen years
they haven't made the playoffs and that's the most out
of any North It will be fourteen at the end
of the season, I should say, and that'll be the
most of any of the four North American sports, the
major sports. So that's a level of utility that literally
nobody else is dealing with at the moment. And ultimately
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they've got They've shuffled through coaches, quarterbacks, gms, and it
remains the same. So it obviously starts at the top
of the person who's been there the whole time.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Great stuff, Zach, you and Diana please tell her we
said Helo. Great stuff on the Jets in the athletic
thanks Dan. You know, you start to talk to people
and you could change things. I always wonder, like if
Tom Brady was in the Jets organization with Tom Brady,
have been Tom Brady or anywhere near it, or Joe Montana,
John Elway, like all of these great quarterbacks. You put
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him in that organization, and sometimes you kind of the
organization weighs you down. Get some phone calls in here,
Debbie and Long Island. Hi Debbie, Hi.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
Dan, thanks for taking my call Before I give you
my update to me, the most obvious answer to the
fill in the blank contest was the Jets are a
M E. S. S. Mass mass mess.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
And I had spoken to you over the summer when
I was, of course outsick and recuperating, because that's when
we watch about finding my father on twenty three and
me and I was no longer a member of the
Dead Dad's Club, and you asked me to call back
with an update. So we have now connected and we're
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speaking pretty much daily. And I don't know, I think
I need a little advice from you. When I meet him?
What do I do? I'm nerval.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Oh, so you haven't met him in person?
Speaker 8 (10:04):
No, they live in Florida.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Okay. What was his initial reaction when you contacted him?
Speaker 8 (10:13):
He knew that this could be a possibility, which was
something I never knew my whole life. He was one
of many in the running.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Apparently, Wait, what was.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
That when apparently the story that I'm being told when
my mother told him that she was pregnant. My mother
was nineteen, he was twenty two. He was getting ready
to go into the boot camp, and he said, well,
I'm not going to marry you, but I'm a stand
up guy and I am willing to participate in this
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baby financially whatever. And she told him, well, you might
not be the father. There could be another one, so
I'm going to do this by myself.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Okay, when are you going to meet him?
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Probably in the spring, okay, because they don't play during
the winter. They're going to Island. Yes, well they have
they have a son that lives here who kind of
doesn't want any part of this, so they'll, yeah, they'll
but that. And they were very very upset that the
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brothers had known since July and just told them now
in November, so they were very upset about that. So
they're very happy to have me in their life, which
I am beyond excited, and my sister is ecstatic to
have me. So it's been very very good right now.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yes, Paul more awkward.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
The Jets quarterback situation, Debbie's family situation put a new
pole question.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I would say the jets situation probably more awkward.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
Now you need to know my whole family situation. I
would win every time.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well, if you're excited about it, and you think that
they're excited, then I think it's going to be awkward,
you know, in the beginning, and then after that, I
think he just ease in, and I think you'll probably
be surprised how easily the conversation will then flow. It'll
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be awkward. How do you start? Where do you start?
What do you say? You know, it doesn't sound like
there's any anger with that on either side, and you
know so to me, I would just go in being optimistic,
positive and displaying that they're probably he's probably going to
gauge you because you found him. You didn't know you
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found him. How are you going to react?
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Not?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh damn, she found me. I'm mad at her. I
think if he's probably going to gauge as soon as
he sees you, how this is going to go.
Speaker 9 (12:58):
Well.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
The respect that I had for him immediately when he
told me the story was before he's still married to
his wife that he married when he got out of
boot camp and all of that. Before he married her,
he told her that at some point we could have
a knock on our door and I might have a
child out there. And she agreed, and so it's just
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it warms my heart because I was waiting for the opposite,
which is what's usually normal. I don't know you you're making
this up, You're scamming me, and so I'm very happy
with But I just I don't know. Do I call
him dad? Do I call it?
Speaker 10 (13:35):
What do I call him?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I would ask him just what are you comfortable? How
I talk to you? And what I you know, how
do I refer to you? Let him say, you know,
I'd be honored if you called me dad.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
Okay, Well I appreciate because I ate.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, yeah, update me when this happens after the fact,
let me know you got it.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
Thank you for all your help as always, Thank.
Speaker 9 (14:03):
You, Debby.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
If I have to go down to Long Island and
uh you know, uh oh take matters in the mountain,
hands that thing straight down there. Yeah, I'm gonna bring
Marvin with me.
Speaker 9 (14:14):
Yeah, because I know about not having a dad. Oh
you two, Debbie, Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What if your dad popped by the studio?
Speaker 9 (14:24):
Oh now I'm on TV.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Okay, yeah, Marvin money.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
Get a piece of that.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
You kind of magazine. How quickly would you call your
mom if your dad showed up at the studio?
Speaker 9 (14:42):
Oh, that's probably the first call I meet.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah yeah, it'd be like bridget, you won't believe who's here?
Speaker 9 (14:49):
Oh, absolutely not, especially he's confined to a wheelchair. Now here.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
All right, Well, I have.
Speaker 9 (14:56):
Siblings in Iowa, so you do.
Speaker 10 (15:00):
I do.
Speaker 9 (15:02):
So I'm going to see them.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Oh when we take our tour viols.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
Yeah, okay, siblings, come on.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
This is this is like heartwarming. This is an after
school special that we have here. We're gonna field Yeah,
reunited and it feels so good. Yes, what if you meet.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
The siblings and they hold their hands up. Oh that's
the way they introduce themselves and like, oh hey Marvel,
what's up.
Speaker 11 (15:28):
Let's see and they do the hand up thing to measure.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And then they go, oh, we are related orients small
like yours. Dude, you don't know me like that. You
don't know me like that? All right, you don't know
me like that.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
You can't do the hand.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Jokes twenty three and meters. It's just hey, put your
hand up, Yeah, we're related like lock.
Speaker 10 (15:47):
You know what.
Speaker 9 (15:48):
You don't want to get things up on the wrong hand,
so hopefully they won't.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Do a great at the beginning of their met Thank you.
All right, we'll take a break. We'll look at the
college football rankings, the playoff scenario, and see who's up
at arms after this Dan Patrick show.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
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listen live. Oh if you thought you had seen the
last of Mike Tyson, think again. Mike Tyson versus Logan
Paul ied for WrestleMania forty one.
Speaker 9 (16:25):
Who's with me?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Nobody?
Speaker 12 (16:29):
It'll be their second scripted fight. No, no, no, this
is brother Oh the other guy I mean yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. He's gonna go after Logan Aaron.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
No.
Speaker 9 (16:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
So, according to Ringside News, a source confirmed there is
interest on WWE's part two potentially make a match happen
between Tyson and Logan Paul. That'll be coming up this April. So, uh,
he just lost after that fight with his brother. Then
(17:06):
Tyson then called out Logan Paul. Logan yelled out, mother blanker,
I'd kill you, Mike. That sounds like we're ready for
a fight. There's video that's coming out now that's gone viral,
and there were a couple of moments that Mike Tyson
probably would have landed a punch on Jake Paul. One
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is alarmingly obvious because you can see where Jake Paul
leaves himself open and Mike pulls the punch back. I
don't know, and this might be something down the road
where we find out that, you know, Mike took the
fall for this and he got paid a lot of
money to continue the Jake Paul bonanza. I don't. I mean,
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if you look at the video and it's making the rounds,
it's obvious that Mike does not punch him, and you
could see Jake Paul is wide open to be knocked out,
wide open. Now that's the only piece of video that
I've seen. I watched the fight and Mike was not aggressive.
There wasn't a flurry, there wasn't all Tyson's gonna wind up.
(18:12):
But this one it stands out and Mike definitely pulled
his punch. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
See, this is what I can't figure out though. Did
Tyson throw the fight for Jake Paul or did Jake
Paul carry Tyson through the fight because they were very there. Clearly,
there's video where Tyson could have hit him, There's no
doubt about that. But I'm positive after watching that that
Jake Paul could have knocked him out in the second round.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Right or a third.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
He clearly Mike Tyson was absolutely gassed and had nothing,
and it was just out of respect that Jake Paul
let him go through the rest of the rounds and seton.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That was my initial reaction is I complimented Jake Paul
and I said, all right, good there, win win here
for those two guys. The consumer. Can you offer up
a contrarian opinion on that, But it felt like, hey,
let's do it. We're gonna make a lot of money,
nobody's gonna get hurt, and just make sure you don't
hit me with a Tyson uppercut, and I'm gonna make
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sure that you don't get knocked out. But if you
look at that video, you can't tell me that Mike
Tyson he had an opportunity. I mean, it's way too
obvious Mike could have knocked him out and he pulls
his punch. Now that's the only portion of that fight
and I don't even remember. There was nothing going on.
(19:30):
It was it was boring. We got to see Mike, uh, Jake,
Paul whatever he's doing, he's doing it and making a
lot of money. But I you know, I'm not al
Bernstein analyzing this. I'm just kind of watching it to
see if there's actually if it's actually a real fight,
that's all. Yeah, Pauline, you ever.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Watched, like in August they do those inner squad scrimmages,
like the Texans will face the Cowboys and it's a
scrimmage an NFL network, and everyone's going three quarter speed
and no one's real tackling the running back or really
bowling over anybody. Everyone agrees on both sides to go
three quarter speed and nobody gets hurt. That's what that
fight fell like when you watched three quarter speed.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
But if you look at that video, Marvin, can you
look at that one little five second clip and tell
me that Mike Tyson pulled his punch? Like, get to me,
is obvious that he was pulling his punch?
Speaker 9 (20:26):
Yeah, it definitely looks like it, for sure.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I've seen the video you're talking about right now. It's
like there's an opportunity he passed upon why though, why
agree what was in place? Yeah, but that was one
of those if you think you know, conspiracy theorists. And
even when Ariel Helwani, who did a great job in
the ring before and after the fight, doing interviews, they said,
how are we going to know this a real fight?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
He goes, oh, no, it's real, Like you had Mike
at the way in and I saw that look and
then all of a sudden he got in the ring
and it wasn't that look. So if you see the video,
you can't help but say, wow, he had an opportunity,
like Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson knocks you out, you give
him that opportunity, all right? Andy Staples on three covering
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college football, Always great to talk to Andy. He's been
on the road covering a lot of SEC games, so
he's watched Georgia, Ole Miss, he had LSU Florida. He's
got Old Miss Florida this week, and then Texas Texan,
Texas A and m so covering college football for on
three Sports. Always great to talk to you, Andy joins
us Now. First reaction to the rankings was.
Speaker 11 (21:35):
What, I'm glad they did this with Boise State.
Speaker 13 (21:40):
I am glad that they showed that a group of
five team does not have to be the twelve seed
that it is the top four ranked conference champs will
get the buys, because I think this is going to
help people understand how this process works a little better,
even if that doesn't ultimately wind up happening, because I
think now you're it and I'm curious because Boise State
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is kind of where they are, and if they win
the games they're supposed to win, I think they're probably
gonna stay there. The question for me is does somebody
from the Big twelve come up and jump them? Like
could Colorado keep winning and jump them? Because I look
at the games Colorado has left. I don't know if
they'd be able to jump them.
Speaker 11 (22:19):
So it may be that they're here.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Well, the only thing about that is it is still
a TV show like these games getting a national champ.
It's a TV show, and they would probably love to
have Dion and his son Travis Hunter in there. And
I don't know. I mean, that's just the human element
of this that I don't know how much that factors
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into something like this.
Speaker 13 (22:46):
Well, the thing is, in this scenario, Colorado or whoever
wins the Big twelve, whether that's Colorado BYU Arizona State
still has a chance. They're gonna get in. The only
way they wouldn't get in, and it's slice is to
stay Army beats No Dame this weekend and then continues
to win and then beats Too Lane in the American Championship.
That's where they wouldn't get in or would have a
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chance to get left out. So they're gonna get in.
They're gonna be in the TV show, and in fact,
they might be in the TV show longer because they'd
play a first round game instead of having a bye.
All right, who got job last night? I don't know
that anybody got jobbed, you know. I think Georgia probably
is going, hey, is that all? We're gonna move up
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for beating Tennessee. But they have two losses, so they're
gonna have to deal with that, and they're not. I
think they're kind of trapped below Ole Miss because they
lost by eighteen to Ole Miss and that game was
never close, so they're pretty much stuck where they are.
I still just like last week and again out of
the situation didn't change. I don't understand why SMU is
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eight is five spots below Miami. They're the same thing.
But the good news about that is it'll take care
of itself because if they keep winning, they'll play each
other and we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
If Indiana loses badly to Ohio State dot dot dont.
Speaker 13 (24:06):
If Indiana loses very badly to Ohio State, I think
you'll see Indiana sitting about where Tennessee is sitting right now,
which will be kind of first team out territory, or
it's gonna be right along the cut line. I don't
know exactly where it's gonna be. I don't think that's
gonna happen, though, Dan. I think Indiana's gonna give him
a game.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
I think the.
Speaker 13 (24:22):
Unfortunate news out of Columbus from Tuesday night that Seth
McLaughlin the Ohio State Center is out for the year.
I think that probably changes the tone of this game
quite a bit. I thought Indiana was gonna play them
close anyway. Now I'm looking at as Indiana can play
them close, but Indiana can win this thing. And if
Indiana wins this game, then you're gonna see some serious
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machinations in the poll next week, because Indiana's gonna move.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Up to two or to three or something like that.
And then where do you.
Speaker 11 (24:54):
Put Ohio State if they have two losses?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
How many losses do you think you can have and
still get into the playoffs?
Speaker 11 (25:03):
This year it's two. I think there will be years
where it's three. This year's two.
Speaker 13 (25:08):
Now, with the automatic bids, you could theoretically have like
a four loss conference champ that gets in depending on
the league. But if you look at it right now,
I don't know that you're going to have more than
a two loss team even playing for a conference championship.
There's a chance that could happen in the Big twelve,
but right now it looks like you're probably gonna have
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to be ten and two or better.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
You have some SEC teams, they're kind of their cupcake weekend.
Can you see SEC teams avoiding Wafford and Mercer and
some ut Chattanooga in future years?
Speaker 13 (25:47):
Yeah, because I think eventually they're going to move to
nine conference games. They're waiting on ESPN to pay them
some more to get to that nine come, but they
want to do nine conference games. There's the leadership of
the SEC, and also most of the cools want to
move to nine conference games because they want to sell
more tickets. They feel like that's a better way to
sell tickets than bringing in Wafford. But they're not gonna
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do it without ESPN paying up for it. But it
is again, something they want to do because right now,
the way the schedule works, beyond twenty twenty five, if
they keep doing what they're doing, Texas and Texas A
and M won't be an annual game. And I'm sorry,
you're not running your business properly if they're in your
league and that's not an annual game.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, but I don't know if rivalries matter. I mean
they matter to us because we grew up with those rivalries.
I don't know how much they matter anymore.
Speaker 11 (26:38):
In the grand scheme of college football National championship.
Speaker 9 (26:42):
Maybe not.
Speaker 13 (26:43):
But I'm telling you right now, watch how things go
next week when Texas and Texas A and M get
ready to play for the first time since twenty eleven,
it would be insane. You're in television, Dan, like, you
have a TV show, it's the greatest TV show. And
the fact that you have this TV show that is
guaranteed ratings, guaranteed monster number, you're gonna say, we can
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just do it twice every four years.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
They're not gonna do that. They're just not He's Andy Staples,
he covers college football for on three. I know it's
not a report, but it's still there. And it's Dion's
best friend, Michael Irvin, who is spreading the Dion to
the Cowboys rumors. Damis saying all the right things, you know,
(27:30):
because he has to. Look he's playing, you know, yeah,
you got games going on, you got recruits. He's not
gonna say, hey, I'm all in if the Cowboys call.
Plus Mike McCarthy is still employed. There separate fact from
fiction with what's going on with this.
Speaker 11 (27:45):
So I just think this is the first take fever dream, right,
This is this is Stephen A.
Speaker 13 (27:51):
Smith just wish casting the greatest thing that could ever
happen to him. Because think about the two topics that
guarantee conflict, that guarantee eyeballs the Cowboys and Deon Sanders,
like it is the wet dream of anyone who hosts
(28:11):
a sports debate show. And I think that's where this
is coming from. I don't think that's gonna happen. If
you look at what Dion's doing, he's actually prepping for
more of a career at Colorado, and I had my
questions early on, like when Shador was gone, when Shiloh
was gone, when Travis Hunter was gone, would he still
(28:32):
want to be there? So they're in the process of
flipping a top quarterback recruit from Georgia named Julian Lewis
who was committed to USC. He's probably going to commit
to Colorado. They had Alabama's best offensive line recruit in
town for an official visit last week.
Speaker 11 (28:47):
They're trying to flip him too.
Speaker 13 (28:48):
Like they are certainly acting like Dion plans to be
at Colorado and try to keep winning games in the.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Big Twelve before I let you go. The team's on
the outside right now. SMU Tennessee, Arizona State Army. Which
one is in the best shape to make a playoff?
Speaker 13 (29:05):
Spot Army because if they win against Notre Dame and
they win against Tulane, they're going to be in the playoff.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Tulane's pretty good. Tulane is sneaky good, so very good.
Speaker 13 (29:19):
That John Sumral, the coach at Tulane, is a name
your viewers and listeners need to know because he's kind
of the next one. There may not be a job
open in the SEC this year. John Someral would have
gotten the Kentucky job had Mark Stoops gone to Texas
A and M last year. All the SEC schools who
may or may not fire their coach next year are
looking very hard at John Somemraw.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Thank you, Andy, safe travels, thank you, Dan. Appreciate it,
Andy Staples on three Sports. Yeah, it's tough to make
something make sense out of the Dion situation. As he's saying,
they are moving forward with big time recruits. But I
still go back to Michael. Irvin is the one leading
the charge here. He's the one who is talking to
(30:02):
Jerry Jones. Here is Dion yesterday about these rumors coaching
the Cowboys.
Speaker 14 (30:08):
Come happy Where I am? Man, I'm good, I got
a kickstand down? You know what the kickstand is. A
lot of people don't in there and out of age,
you don't know what the kickstand is. I mean, I'm resting,
I'm good, I'm happy, I'm excited. I'm enthusiastic about where
I am. I love it here, I truly do.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Next question good, Okay, Yeah, just tell Michael to stop
spreading these rumors, so you're gonna have to walk it
back with recruits and say no, I'm not going anywhere. Yes,
he is so gone. You think so he is out
of there? Okay, all right, are you Let's go around
(30:45):
the room. This is a bonus in or out? Oh yes, yes,
this not scripted, not in the rundown. And of course
this show is scripted. In or out Dion Sanders next
season at Colorado, Todd in or out in seat O'Connor,
(31:08):
Dion Colorado next season in around in. Oh wait, I
just thought you said he was gone.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
I kidding.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Oh oh no, it's kidding.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
He just said how much he loves it there.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
He's doing whatever.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Please respect the rules of in out please. Yeah, it's
not laughing, mat Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, we're not playing a game.
Speaker 11 (31:30):
Before we were playing in or out. You just decided
to start in or out.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Made that statement because of you, Marvin in or out
Dion in Colorado, He's in. Okay, Paulie in or out
Dion next season? Way and I think it is.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Yeah, what Dion's mystique works in college football? In the pros,
I don't know if it will work with free agents.
I don't know if it can't circumvent the salary cap
or the draft he can outschmooths you and d on
you in the college ranks.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
D on you. Yes, that's what they should call Colorado
d on you. What it's like the jay Z Factor?
Remember when jay Z was what a minority owner in
the nets? You got guys are gonna want to play
for him? Lebron's gonna want to play for jay Z?
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Jay Z?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
What about the jay Z Factory? No, nobody wanted to
play for They don't care one of the team. Yeah,
he doesn't have any input, but man, I'm I'm the
jay Z Factor. Yes, marmon, Yeah, some guys want to
rap for jay Z, not play for his label. Yes,
(32:42):
I don't want to be on his team. I want
to be on his label.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
Let's go East Rutherford in play.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Let's take a break here, Last call for phone calls,
What we learned, what's in store tomorrow this day and
sports history right after this.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
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Speaker 2 (33:05):
Last phone call, Last call for phone Calls? What we learned,
What's in store tomorrow? And it doesn't seem like it
was twelve years ago. We had Jack Taylor on the show.
If you remember Jack Taylor. Jack Taylor played for Division
III school Grinnell and they beat Faith Baptist Bible one
(33:27):
seventy nine to one oh four. And the reason why
we had Jack Taylor on was because he took one
hundred and eight shots in that game. He made fifty
two of them. He went twenty seven for seventy one
from three point range, and he scored one hundred and
thirty eight points. I said, can you send me something
(33:48):
from the game. He sent me his socks and it
put He put one thirty eight and then he autographed
the socks set the NCAA wreck. Just to be able
to shoot that many times is incredible. The socks, by
the way, are in my office as soon as you
go in on the right hand side. In case one
(34:10):
and eight shots, I mean, I don't care who that's against.
One hundred eight shots that will leave you exhausted. But
he had one hundred and thirty eight of his team's
one seventy nine. On this date, twenty twelve, Jimmy in Kansas. Jimmy,
thank you for holding what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (34:31):
Hi Dan, I love you guys, first of all six
foot and then angry one ninety five angry so quick
shout out to Marvin for the Allison chains a letther
I named my daughters after them. But I am a
Jets fan and I am so tired of it, Like
(34:53):
this is crazy that they fired Joe Douglas. It's insane
and it's the same thing I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Jimmy, I'll let you at one time, you can now
quit the Jets and pick your own team one time only.
Speaker 10 (35:07):
Okay, So that's exactly what I was going to ask you, Dan,
A great, great question, My question, what's going to be?
Is it too late in my life?
Speaker 15 (35:18):
The switch?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
No, it's a one and done at one timer. You
can make the switch right now, Jimmy, and we will
not critique you. We will not criticize. We will just
accept it one time only. But you got to do
it right now, Jimmy Detroit bon Okay, Oh take long. Well,
(35:41):
congratulations Jimmy, you're going to the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Yeah, Paul, if you're a Jets fan giving up your
Jets them to root for the Lions, things are awful.
Even the Lions are great right now?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, that's great. Yeah, at one time. Wait, didn't he
say he named his daughters after Alice and Chains? He did, Okay,
so one must be named Alison. The only one is
in James.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
It's a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
A little dang. We lost it. He hung up. I
was going to ask him about that. Michael in Denver, Hi, Mike,
what's on your mind? Thanks for holding morning.
Speaker 14 (36:21):
Dan.
Speaker 15 (36:21):
Yeah, your theory that Belichick could end up attempting to
extinguish the dumpster fire that is the Jacksonville Jaguars franchise
couldn't help but make me think back to Tom Coughlin.
I mean, two completely improbable Super Bowl upsets over Belichick
thanks to the euroics of David Tyree and Mario Manningham
(36:44):
and legitimizing Eli Manning As I recall, Coughlin and his
military coaching style took him to Jacksonville where there was
an insurrection down there and an equally intense dumpster fire.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
And he saw up on that comparison, Dan, different players,
different time. Belichick's resume. Is he going to work with
Trent Balke, the GM who's there? Don't I don't see
it and say that's going to happen again, But that
they were a couple of plays away from going to
the Super Bowl. That team incredible. Let's see anything else
(37:23):
with this day in sports history, aside from Jack Taylor
from Grenelle in twenty twelve.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Nineteen forty two, the NHL ended their regular season overtime
format until World War two was over. They actually kept
it going until eighty two eighty three, And that's why
you had ties. Chick hern loved in Los Angeles nineteen
sixty five started a three thousand game streak of calling
Laker games Ac Greens nine hundred and seven straight games
for the Dallas Marricks and the Lakers before that. And
(37:49):
there's a weird one with no explanation. Nineteen ninety seven,
hockey player Eric Lindros of the Flyers tried to bite.
Marty McSorley of the San Jose Sharks tried to didn't
account on this day.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Nineteen seventy seven, who rushes for an NFL record two
hundred and seventy five.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Oh, he was sick here the floor beat the flu water.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Peyton beat it on this day. In nineteen sixty nine,
Pele scored his one thousandth, one thousandth career goal. He
might be up there amongst the most underrated athletes of
all time? Wow, Pele, Yeah, properly rated. I don't know
(38:30):
what he was doing when he was doing it. That
was a whole different you know, that's like Jerry West
shooting jump shots with Pele the way he how it
creates creatively, uh, scoring these goals.
Speaker 9 (38:44):
I thought he was painfully overrated. But that's just me.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
You had an unbelievable show, is it, pal or Ple?
Speaker 9 (38:52):
What are we doing with the accent?
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Was that Gosily?
Speaker 12 (38:55):
I know?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
But don't do this. Don't do this you had. You know,
you're like Cooper Flag that you played forty thirty nine
minutes and thirty seconds against Kentucky and then all of
a sudden you had the last thirty seconds.
Speaker 9 (39:09):
Chucking up one too many.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Let's just all go, Let's just let it go, let go.
Speaker 10 (39:16):
All right.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
The final results of the pole question, they're seating.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Hellay, final result of the poll question, the worst team
in New York? Actually no, the best team in better
shape in New York. The Jets have twenty five percent
of that vote.
Speaker 8 (39:31):
Yeay.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Fireman ed right there, clamping. I still I love this
Lebron James response when somebody was asking about how the
Lakers found Dalton connect.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
They didn't find DK the other sixteen teens it up.
Did anybody watch them? They just didn't get up.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, I don't know what they That's where you go
to your scouting department for the teams that were picking
before you know, the sixteen teams go.
Speaker 11 (40:09):
Did you guys know this guy was this good or
that he could shoot?
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (40:13):
No, we wanted to take somebody from outside the United
States who had potential. The last thing we want is
somebody who may have peaked at the age of twenty three,
because that's the feeling you get, is all right? He
kind of looked good in their SEC games, Todd, would
you learn today.
Speaker 9 (40:28):
If it's not a good NFL matchup?
Speaker 11 (40:30):
Marvin enjoys taking a Thanksgiving nap, making him a Trypto fan.
Speaker 9 (40:33):
Yeah, I brought it back.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
See O'Connor.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
John Elway has a painting of himself hanging up in
whatever room he was in, Yeah, his office, Marvin, what
did you learn?
Speaker 9 (40:44):
You think Colorado should be named beon you?
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah? Paulie, what'd you learn? Fell in the blank? Catching fire?
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