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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
I think there was a fight on Friday night. It
was Jake Paul against Mike Tyson. I think it was,
but I watched, at least I tried to watch, and
then I'm watching on my phone, and then all of
a sudden, I'm watching on Antonio Brown's Street. Like I mean, Netflix,
you got to get it together. You got six weeks
before you got football games on Christmas Day. So I'm
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watching that, and I thought at one point that Jake
Paul was being respectful to Mike and he could have
hurt him, probably could have knocked him out, and I'm
glad that he didn't. So you can say whatever you
want about Jake Paul. I don't think he's a great boxer.
I don't think he's a good boxer. I think he's
a great marketer. And he held Mike up and Mike
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didn't have any spring in his step. As I've said
many many times, if Mike doesn't get you in the
first round, he's not going to get you. Jake Paul
is probably a better boxer, well certainly now. But I
just didn't want Mike embarrassed. That's all. And then when
he said he wanted to fight Jake Paul's brother, I go, no, Mike,
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We're not gonna do this again. Sixty million households tuned
in for that, or at least tried to with Netflix.
The undercard was great, the women awesome, and then all
of a sudden, you're watching and there weren't any real
standout punches, no real flurries or anything like that. And
Mike biting on his gloves during I didn't. He says
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he has some biting fixation. Oh we know that, Mike.
But Mike got paid and Jake Paul is gonna take
on somebody else again. Go back to when Jake Paul
fought Nate Robinson, remember the former NBA player. He fought him,
and Nate Robinson's like, okay, can people now get off
my back? That I lost to Jake Paul, And I
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guess everybody you know was picking on him. Tyson loses
to him, and I mean, it's not Murder's row of
who he's defeated. He hadn't beat anybody, but he's a
great marketer, did a wonderful job with this. And then
it's buyer and beware. As I said before, you can
hate him. He wants you to hate him, but he
wants you to pay to hate him, and that's what
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you had with that fight. But I'm glad that he
let Mike walk out with some dignity there, because Mike
was spent at the end of that boxing match.
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If you buy into the adage when the Cowboys lose,
America wins, you're having a great season. Texans handled the Cowboys,
and the Texans now seven and four. The Cowboys drop
to three and seven after three straight twelve win seasons.
The sky is falling in Dallas, literally and figuratively. The
team came in with playoff aspirations, maybe Super Bowl asper,
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but here we are ten games deep and it's time
to accept the Cowboys for who they really are. It's
a poorly built team that continues to fail to get
out of its own way. They were embarrassed last night
at home, so they're in the same conversation with the
Patriots and the Panthers. Nobody saw this when coming the
star on the helmet continues to keep Dallas in the news,
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and they will continue to hear about Michael Parsons contract.
We'll hear about the prospects of teams or players that
the team has fallen in love with. With the draft,
Jerry World maybe wanting to tear down the stadium and
build a new stadium, and part of the roof was
falling and caving in last night. But the relationship with
the Cowboys is always interesting because you either love them
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or you hate them. There's no middle ground. And what
you're seeing right now, this is a juicy little payback
to all those victories and all the attention that they receive.
For a three and seventeen, we'll start with Ceedee Lamb
talking about what it's like to play for the Cowboys
and when you face these opponents each week, obviously everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Is looking to embarrasses, right they have their opportunity. When
they do, they try to, you know, put us out.
And we had so much access over the last few
years as far as in the regular season. It's just
starting about us right now. So for us, we gotta
find ways. You gotta find ways that go together, play together,
and don't just thing out.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, you know, the TV executives have to be wringing
their hands because they love Dallas. You got Dallas and
the Giants the annual Thanksgiving Day game, then you have
two primetime games on Monday Night. You got Week fourteen
against the Bengals, and then you have Week sixteen against
the Buccaneers. We love watching Dallas, and those who love
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watching Dallas succeed, and those watching Dallas fail. You get
a whole lot of one and a little bit of
the other one this season. Cooper Rush did okay last night.
He's kind of non threatening. I don't know if they
get to the point where they go, Let's just see
if Trey Lance can play football. You gave up a
fourth round pick, which doesn't sound like a lot, but
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in the NFL that's a big deal. Look at the
receivers who have been traded for fourth round picks this year.
Maybe see if Trey Lance can play and then if not,
maybe you're moving on from him and Cooper Rush. But
you're watching that Dallas team and you keep waiting for
something to happen. It's not going to happen. And Mike
McCarthy is basically just kind of you know, twisting in
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the wind, and Jerry will bring in somebody next year.
But there's bigger pictures and we'll go back months and
months ago, maybe last year, and Seatan first brought this up.
He said, you know, Dallas has a problem because they
have a guy who's going to make fifty or sixty
million dollars at quarterback. They got a wide receiver going
to make thirty million dollars. And then you have a
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defensive player who's probably going to be or want to
be the highest defensive player in the game as far
as how he's paid. You would think that's a good problem,
but it's not because of how the team is built
the other positions and they don't have a running game,
and it is you know, I look at the Texans.
Joe Mixon was a great pickup. Now America is never
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going to embrace him for what happened off the field
when he was in college. But he was good with
the Bengals, and he was really good last night. This
really helped CJ. Stroud and CJ. Stroud has regressed a
little bit, but the Texans are still a playoff caliber
team and a really, really bad division. But you're watching
last night and the Texans do have some playmakers there,
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Nico Collins. When he plays, they play well. But Dallas
has lost five home games, the first five home games
for the first time since nineteen eighty nine, and they're
getting blown out. They're giving up thirty seven points per
game at home. The last time that happened a team
gave up that many points per game through five games
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nineteen eighty one. And if you go back to the
playoff loss, you know, we may have looked at the
loss to Green Bay last year as an aberration in
the playoffs, but it wasn't because if you go back
to that loss, the Cowboys have lost six in a
row at home, and they've trailed by at least twenty
points in each of their six home losses. Like these
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are numbers that you never would have thought with Dallas,
whether you like him or not. And this isn't all
just hey, Dak got injured. This is a bad team.
They chose to bring back Zeke Elliott. They're just not
They don't They're one dimensional team. And now with that
dimension being Cooper Rush, you're not going to beat anybody. Now,
I'm looking at this schedule and they have a chance
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to salvage. What do you guys think the over under is?
According to DraftKings victories for the Dallas Cowboys, Marvin, I'll
start with you. They have three how many wins over under?
Cowboys five and a half? Bloop blue wow wow, yep,
five and a half. The same as the Jets. The
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Bears they're over under six and a half. How about
the Chiefs over unders fourteen and a half. And I
did want to pick up on that with the Chiefs
because we're going to see the Chiefs and the Bills
probably again. And is Buffalo going to They're nine and
two and Kansas City is nine and one. If we
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start to play this out now with the final, you know,
six or seven games, So Kansas City's at the Panthers,
they host the Raiders, they host the Chargers, they're at
the Browns, host the Texans. They're at the Steelers. Two
losses may be in there. Buffalo has two losses right now,
so Kansas City would end up with three losses. Buffalo
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hosts San Francisco, they're at the Rams, They're at the Lions.
Then they host the Patriots. Jets Patriots, they going to
have one or two more losses and if they get
to four losses, they're going to be going to Kansas City,
probably for the AFC title game. Seems like a foregun
conclusion in the NFC with the class being the Detroit Lions,
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and I don't know if the Eagles are a close second,
but feels like I don't think we're quite sure what
to make of the San Francisco forty nine ers. A
lot of talent, they've had injuries. They are generic right
now in last place.
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Speaker 2 (09:41):
He is the National League Rookie of the Year. He's
Paul Skins, the Pirates pitcher. Back on the program. Last
time I saw you when you got the honor, you
had a fireplace scene behind you look really nice and cozy.
Did you make the fire.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I did not, and I think it looked all right,
but not quite as good as the fireplace scene you've
got behind you.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So that's why similar But I'm not winning any awards.
How did you celebrate when you when you got the honor?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, I mean we had a number of my teammates
and coaches and you know, some people that have just
kind of affected my career in the past couple of years.
So they were all there, got to celebrate with them
and and you know, just it was nice to be
able to to experience it with them because it takes
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a village to have any sort of success.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
What was it like in April when you're in the
minor leagues wanting to be called up but not getting
that call?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah, I mean that was the thing that that you know,
people have been telling me, my parents, my coaches, that
kind of thing since this time last year. Was just
be patient because we don't know what the plan is. Necessarily,
we don't know, like I mean, truthfully, we didn't know how, uh,
you know, how how I was going to be because
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you know, had a feeling that I was going to do,
you know, have success and I believe to myself and
that kind of thing. But you don't really know how
you're going to do until you're in it, So just
be patient and put in the work and go compete
and then it'll all take care of itself.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
How does your personality help you benefit you because you
seem pretty even keel, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I mean, it's just how I am, and I've I've
I think I've realized it a lot more over this year,
this past year, this past season. It definitely doesn't hurt.
I think just being able to stay consistent in this game,
because it's because you can really ride the roller coaster,
the ups and the downs through through one hundred and
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sixty two. So just being able to stay consistent, and
I think it helps me do that.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Okay, but when you give up a home run, you
get mad internally. You don't show it, but when somebody
hits a bomb off of you, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Sometimes I get mad sometimes. I mean there's I think
there's pictures of me this year, like smiling after I
give it a home run.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Sometimes frankly, sometimes I think it's funny.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So why why is it funny?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
I mean, it's just you know, kind of kind of uh,
their approach, whether they executed it or not. Like there
were there were a couple of times where, you know,
guys just jumped me this year and I was just like, well, whatever,
he can't.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
You can't really avoid that to some extent, so who cares?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
What was it like facing Otani.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
It was cool.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
It was cool obviously the you know, the first ab
and on the second ab he got me. But that
is cool because we you know, we went back to
his h you know, back to their place, and just
having the opportunity to face him I don't know what,
five or six times this year and knowing that it's
going to be five or six times next year and
in the year after that like that. That that's pretty
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cool to to look forward to to where it's not
just you know, reading a scouting report and throwing to
a certain certain location like you got to play baseball
and and actually get the guy out.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
It's it's a cool, cool experience.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
He's the rookie of the Year. Pirates pitcher Paul's schemes.
What's a pitcher do in the offseason?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
So what I yeah, what I did was took three
weeks completely off and really just on my body and
my mind, settle, relax for a little bit, and then
got right back into it throwing and lifting. This is
the kind of the point in the off season where
you're really just getting your butt kicked probably five times
a week by the workouts, just because that's you know,
that's where we're at in the off season and got
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to build strength, build work, workload, work capacity, all that
and and ramping up. So it's not it's not fun necessarily,
but you know, hopefully get to enjoy it a little
bit too, take some trips and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
There. Now you're not a surprise, so the rest, you know,
everybody gets a book on whether it's a hit or
or a pitcher. Uh do you work on anything? You
add anything in your second season? Are you working on anything?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
I think I will. I don't know exactly what it
is going to be yet because where I'm at right now,
like I just can't work on any any other pitches
right now. I'm only throwing fastball. So that's something that
I'm a little bit more present with it this offseason
rather than thinking about because last offseason I was kind
of like, oh, I'm going to do this and this
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and this, and I was thinking about all that in September,
but you can't really start doing that until December January.
So I'm now I'm kind of at the point where
I'm like, all right, I'll I'll figure it out a
little bit and uh, you know, November December, so I
don't know exactly what the you know, what the character
that's going to look like. But I think there's going
to be something that I'll figure out because there are
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ways for me to get better.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Do you have a baseball nearby?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I don't don't.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Oh is that possible? Should you have a baseball nearby?
Driving in your car holding the bit? I mean, what
are you doing? It's a cowboy without a hat on.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I know if I were in the car, I would
have it, because I do drive with one in the car,
but I don't have one right here. I got Christmas decorations,
but nothing else.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, we have to work on the background here, Paul, Like,
if you're going to be this good for a long
period of time, we have to have a better backdrop
when we have you on TV.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah. I'm figuring it out.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, I mean the fireplace was great, don't get me wrong,
But I mean that looks like a college dorm that
you got going on there. Get your girlfriend to spice
it up a little bit, you know, let's let's do
some decorating in there.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Yeah, we'll do. We'll do.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well. Congratulations and well deserved and thanks for joining us
as always.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yeah, I appreciate you having me.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
That's Paul Schemes, Irons Venture nationally Rookie of the Year.
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Speaker 2 (16:12):
He is Jeff Mounkin, the head coach of Army. You
got your pregame speech ready?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Ah?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
No, that just wherever when the spirit moves me.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I guess whatever I think is appropriate at the at
the time, and I'll you know, share it with the guys.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Sometimes it's nothing and sometimes it's something.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
So it just hits you if you're going to say
something or not.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Yeah, I don't. I don't plan a speech or anything
like that.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Okay, how much have you watched a Notre Dame? What like,
what's your takeaway from Notre Dame?
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Really talented, really well coached. You know, they're they're they're
a very complete team. There's not offensively you try to
find what position maybe isn't there strengths, but they're really
athletic at receiver, they're long and in physical at tight end.
Their backs are downhill runners. They got great acceleration in
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the quarterback. He makes every throw and very sneaky run
on the football. I really didn't anticipate he'd be that
good of a runner, really strong on the offensive line, defensively, athletic,
really good a linebacker. You know, they way out match
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us in the secondary. So they got a really they
got a really good team.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Okay, But this kind of offensive philosophy that you guys have,
I mean, it's a great offense and defensive philosophy because
you guys chew up eight nine minutes if you can.
Why is it so difficult? Even though Notre Dame faces
this every year? But why do teams still have trouble
with the Army offense?
Speaker 5 (17:55):
It's different than everybody else.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
And though they I'm certain have spent a lot of
time in the offseason and in the spring ball, preseason camp,
as you go through the season and there's eight or
nine opponents doing something entirely different, and then you go
back to the option plan that you have defensively, you've
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got to reteach that to the players and it's it's
it's like playing a different sport. It's a pain in
the butt for us start off in preseason face Air
Force and Navy. We've got to we've got to transition
our guys and it takes time to reteach it and
and get them plugged back in.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
How important is the passing game to your offense this year?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
It's important.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
What it does is, uh, it equalizes the balance between
us trying to run the ball and people putting a
bunch of folks in the box trying to stop us.
And I'll obviously we want to run the football, we
want to do that very effectively. But when there are
extra hats finding their way to the ball, oftentimes that
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opens up opportunities for us in a play action game.
And we're never going to be a team that throws
it a whole lot, but we've utilized that element a
lot more this year, and I think at times it's
really helped us and been effective.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Do you feel like an underdog this Saturday?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
We're an underdog every Saturday?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
No, you're not. No, you've been favored a lot. You're undefeated,
So yes, Notre Dame is favored by whatever ten points
or two touchdowns. But I didn't know if you've felt that,
or you know, do you want that chip on your shoulder?
Your team to feel like we're an underdog every week?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
We've we've always got to play that way. Prognosticators might
favor us, but they haven't been to our practices and
and and really come in and watched us. If they
did make us an underdog every week, I know who
we are. Our players are, Uh, they're they're they're humble
enough and understand what we've got to do to win here.
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And that's all we focus on. So we we we
know it's gonna taken. It just an incredible effort for
us to be able to be competitive with with Notre
Dame tomorrow and and uh.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
And that's that's what we're focused on, trying to play
our best.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
How important is it for you to understand what your
athletes go through off the field outside of football, Whereas
most coaches don't necessarily have to worry about, you know,
schooling and everything else that goes along. I mean, this
is this is unique, But I don't know since you
haven't gone through it to understand what they're going through.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
I've been here long enough to know what they're going through.
But I've also been here long enough to know that
we're not going to use that as an excuse. And
we're we're we've got young men here that uh, they've
got to handle a lot. There's a lot of responsibility academically,
the professional standards here, i e. The military part, and
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being a Division one football player. It's a lot of time.
Nearly every moment of their day is accounted for and
not controlled by them, and so it takes great self
discipline to have a regiment and schedule like that.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
But that's who we are.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
And so I think those challenges and the decisions they
got to face every day, about the time that they
spend on a class, on a test, getting sleep, nutrition,
whatever it may be, that that forces them to be focused.
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And so we never use the stuffed rucksack as they
say here, you know, one hundred pounds a year and
a fifty pound rucksack. We never used that as an excuse.
It's just it's an opportunity for our guys to really
push themselves and be the best they can be.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I think I've asked this before, but I don't know
if you have any new additions. Coolest thing in your
office is what.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Holy moly, man, you know what? Right over here next
to me, there's a photo of my dad and I.
My dad was my high school coach and it's got
an army letter jacket. So our equipment manager gave my
dad an army letter jacket when he was coming to
all the games. My dad passed away about a year
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and a half ago, and he was just faithful on
the sidelines. Our players loved him. And so when my
dad passed away, our players got a hold of that
letter letter jacket. They had it framed and put a
picture of my dad and I underneath it.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
And that's really special to me.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
That's an addition that probably wasn't there the last time
we talked.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
There's your pregame speech right there, Coach.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Well, we got great we got great young men here,
and you know that just speaks to the to the
love that they have for this brotherhood and and uh
and just the respect they have for this program. And
so I really appreciate that. I appreciate our players and
hopefully hopefully they'll uh, they'll have a great game tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Good to talk to you again. Congrats on the season
so far.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Thanks so much, appreciate the opportunity be Navy.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It's coach Jeff Monkin