December 4, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan dives deep into the latest College Football Playoff rankings with college football insider Pat Forde. And they play a round of “In or Out,” focusing on some college and NFL futures.
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spent a lot of time talking about the college football
playoff rankings. Pat Forty from Sports Illustrated covers the sport.
He was in Columbus for Ohio State and Michigan, and
I saw a tweet by him that he got pepper sprayed,
so he was obviously close to the action. Jason Garrett,
former Cowboys head coach, now a contributor analyst on Football
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Night in America, will stop by as well. A lot
of NBA the NBA Cup rolling along. The one Soto
decision is supposed to be happening soon. This feels like
this is Scott and Boris saying to the media. Put
it out there. Last call for bids on Juan Soto.
Remember when the Sho Heo Tani sweepstakes got to six
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hundred million and we were like, what, how is this possible?
Is he worth it?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It has proven to be worth six hundred million dollars?
But he has a global following one Soto six hundred
million dollars. He's a He's a really really good hitter.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
There's there's no global reach with one Soto. But Toronto's
in it, Red Sox are in it, Yankees in it,
Met's in it, Dodgers are in it. Maybe you'll have
an outlier there, but six hundred million. It's like when
you were growing up and somebody said somebody was a
millionaire and you're like, oh my god, if only, and
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then all of a sudden it was a billionaire. Now
we don't even blink. Somebody's a billionaire. You're like, oh, okay,
hey jay Z's a billionaire, Hey Lebron's a big Michael's
a billionaire. We don't care. Elon Musk has how many
Warren Buffer like, it doesn't matter. Even when you look
at salaries, No, Steph Curry's making sixty million dollars, Okay,
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Luka Doncik will make a hundred million dollars in a
year in his career. At some point he will make
a hundred million dollars. So when it gets to be
six hundred million, you're like, okay, yeah, I can see it. Well,
you know who is going to pick up the tab?
You we got all that owner's gonna spend money. Well,
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you know what the owner is gonna do. I'm gonna
spend the money. I'm gonna raise ticket prices, parking concession.
So you're helping foot the bill if Steve Cohen wants
to bring in one Sodo, you know, because hey, we
all say the following, man, I love my owner spends money. Well,
you're spending money too, because it's going to cost you.
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We're in this together. But six hundred million. It used
to be like you'd go no way. Remember Mike Trout
signing his deal. Harper, you're going Colley three hundred and
fifty million dollars, Aaron Judge, I could. It wasn't that
long ago. Now it's six hundred million for one Soto.
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I'm like, okay, and I know I got some baseball
analysts they pushed back on me. Saying I'd never sign
him too. I mean, you're banking on somebody staying healthy
for twelve years. He's twenty six. Okay, if you said
to the Angels, would you have done it again? If
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you had the opportunity to sign Mike Trout given what happened,
I could I get three really good players for six
hundred million dollars That might make my team better. I
mean that would be my approach. But if you got
the money, you want to spend the money, and you
bring in one Soto, then you're the Mets great. You
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keep him from the Yankees and the Dodgers great. I
just wouldn't go out of my way to watch one Sodo.
I mean, if he's on TV, I'd go, oh, okay,
he gets on base He certainly loved right field at
Yankee Stadium, that that short porch there. But otanis must
see TV Harper, you turn tune in to see him.
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I mean, you know Paul's schemes. I would tune in.
Baseball doesn't have enough tune in factor, Guys, I don't
know what I mean won Soto. It's forty homers, drives
in one hundred and twenty runs, and what it hits
two eighty five and not a good fielder, and I
don't I mean, what else are you getting? I don't know,
for six undred million, I'd like a little more. Yes,
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Marvin was a Rod. The first contract where everyone thought,
this is outrageous. Two hundred and fifty million dollars over
ten years. Was that the first like really ridiculous contract,
trying to think, I mean, that's up there because he
went to Texas, And I think that that was the
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surprising part of it is Scott Boris got Texas to
pony up foolishly and spend that kind of money, and
then even a Rod going to the Yankees, And then
I think one of his excuses for using steroids was
the pressure to live up to his contract when he
went to the Yankees. Yes, Bowen, do.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You know what I remember for the most public reaction
in the time of this show and before from a
player getting paid, guys like John Contact, this big stiff
center in the NBA. He got like, I don't know me,
you may have gotten like four million a year for six.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Years with the Atlanta Hull.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, I went berserk. And then there was a guy
named a Donald Foyle who was a barely passable center.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Golden State, Golden State, and he.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Got a nice contract. And that's where he's like, so
you could be bad at your job and become a multi.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Nay, well, I remember John Contact, his nickname was John
Contract because he signed this contract and he wasn't a
good player. I think he played at SMU and then
he went to the Hawks. You know, he's serviceable big man.
But at the time, you're going, he's getting that kind
of money. He might have been getting paid more money
than Michael Jordan with his contract.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
You're correct. They were both at two point five million
at one.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Time, and then Johnny contract went to four million, I
think correct, and you know people went apoplectic with that.
It's the right place, right time, is really what it is.
Soto is turning twenty six, and this is the sweet
spot here. He's going to get paid. He's going to
get paid a lot of money. And you know comes
down to is he worth it well?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
To me?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
No, But I'm just the I'm just a baseball fan.
If if that's my team and I get him and
we can win championships, okay, I don't. I don't know
if he's the guy that leads you to the Promised Land.
But he is a great hitter. That's it. Great hitter.
Otani gives you a global exposure. He's a he did
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something no one's ever done in the history of the game,
and he's going to be continuing to do those things.
Now he goes back to pitching and hitting. He showed
what he could do. Hey, I can't pitch, Well, let
me show you what I can do. And then you
have the entire you know, far East Japanese market, like
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you have all of that Dodger games over there. What
those numbers were during the World Series, the playoffs over there. Okay,
I can capitalize on. I can monetize that Wan Soto,
I can't monetize that.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Yeah, Marvin and we talked baseball all season long because
of one guy show Hal Tani. We're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
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Texans are still a little salty with the disease al
Shire suspension. Now, we talked about it a lot, and
we talked about it yesterday. Three game suspension. Nick Cassario
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is the Texans GM and he thinks that his player
has well. The portrait of him is incorrect of who
this player is. Look, it is what it is.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
I think the big thing from our standpoint and all
teams want this is just some level of consistency. And
we've talked to the league quite frankly, but we don't
have a good explanation. Dimiko talked to him yesterday. So
I mean, it is what it is. I'm sure Aziz
will go through whatever process he's going to go through,
and then we'll deal with it accordingly. But I think
what we take umbragees is just the picture that's been
painted about disease, his intentions, who he is as a person.
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I mean, it's quite frankly, it's bold, and it's unfair
the individual.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's unfair of the organization.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I mean, we love everything about as he's all shay here,
what he means to this team, what he brings.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
To this to this team. Okay, I'm sure he is
a good guy. I think he was working something with
United Way yesterday. He's a team captain, He's got two
priors to this. He punched somebody he wants grab Brady
around the neck. He hit Tony Pollard out of bounds
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two yards out of bounds from behind. Can you blame
Trevor Lawrence that he slid too late? Okay? Your player
went up top with a forum right to his head,
right to his head. So look, you're defending your player. Great,
Not sure why you are. Feels like you're over defending
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your player. Are you sending a message here? Like, what's
the message you're sending here? Hey, we support our guys. Okay, great,
tell me how you support him with the other plays
that he had. I'd like to hear that. And why
is it You can complain about the punishment, but you
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can't complain about the officials on a call like he's
not getting Nick Cassario, The GM doesn't get suspended or punished.
If he's critical of the punishment, you don't get punished
by the NFL. But if you criticize, if he said,
you know, the officials are terrible, well he's going to
get fined fifty thousand dollars. You could be critical of
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the NFL handing out the punishment to your player and
the NFL doesn't do anything about it. But I think
you got to be fair with the totality of this
player in his career. If he didn't have any priors,
then maybe we look at this differently, and these are
recent priors. Is it going to get maybe reduced to
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two games if they appeal? Maybe? Like, okay, so what
you couldn't get him off the field. He took his
helmet off, you know. And then you have your head
coach who's calling out Jacksonville saying they overreacted. Can somebody
please ask Damiko Ryans coach, if CJ. Stroud got hit
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like that by a Jacksonville player and your players didn't
defend him, how would you feel that's over That's a
silly comment by him. They overreacted. Their franchise quarterback is
knocked out. If your franchise quarterback was knocked out and
your players didn't go on the field, how would you
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have reacted? That's it, coach, you got an answer? Oh
you don't. Okay, we move on from that. It's silly
to say that every coach wants his player to be
out there to defend his quarterback after a cheap shot
like that, and I would want the Texans to do
the same if it happened to CJ.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Stroud.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
All right, yeah, point, Could you make the case though,
that the defense if this were a star defensive player,
he would not have been fined the same or suspended
the same such as same exact hit TJ. Watt.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, but I can't do that. Well. I think that'd
be like if I said, if Jakobe Brissett got hit,
is somebody going to be suspended?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
But I think that's kind of what Nick Casaria is saying,
that my guy, because he's a nobody, is getting lit
up more than he should for a hit that happens.
I think that's what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
But his player has priors here, and he's known only
because of the priors. Nobody's saying, boy, that guy is
an unbelievable player. They're talking about the other hits that
he had that led to this. I mean, if TJ.
Watt did the same thing, then I would hope that
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they would suspend him as well. Now, maybe you get
the benefit of the doubt there. If that's what Nick
Cassario is saying, good luck with that. But that that
we're sorry your player is not known like TJ. Watt is,
you don't get the benefit of the doubt. He created
this situation where he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.
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If it's a marquee defensive player and he's doing that.
Are they more lenient? I hope they're not. Maybe they are,
but still the Texans they can they can blame their
player for putting their player in that situation.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
All right.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Poll question for hour two is gonna be one seed?
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Let me update you from our one since we had
two of them. Alabama will ultimately get into the twelve
team playoff because let's see right now, ninety one percent
of the audience say it's because they're Alabama, not because
they deserve to be in. Okay, ninety one percent, that's
a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It is.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
Miami will ultimately get left out of the twelve team
playoff because fifty three percent is because they just don't
be in, not because they just don't have the same
name value anymore. Okay, they are down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Do we have something for hour two that we're going with.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Yeah, I did think about, just to see if we
get a different result. The Miami Hurricanes got hosed or
hosed themselves just because the wording is so it's so wonderful,
Yeah who hosed who themselves? Or yeah, you could Todd
had another one too. It's the two or four falls
no school has a strong case if they get left
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out of the college football playoffs. I think that's kind
of fair. Nobody really has a case if they get
left out.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah. Did Florida State have a case last year? Right?
They did? They were undefeated, It's just they didn't have
their quarterback.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yes, And we've been talking a lot.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Recent weeks on how there's really no great team in
college football. So because of that, who could really feel
that snubbed if they're number thirteen or fourteen after we
hear what happens on Sunday from the selection.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, there's still going to be, you know, teams that complain.
You know, it's weird. Do we look at Oregon as
a great team? Probably not undefeated? But I don't know
if we recognize them even though they're in the Big
Ten now. But it still feels like it's an sec
world that we live in. Now. You're talking about Georgia
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and you're talking about Alabama, and then you get around
to like Notre Dame is really good, Like that's a
really solid go back to when Alabama and Notre Dame
played what was that a decade ago? And that was ugly,
Like that's when you saw Oh my gosh, that's SEC football, Alabama.
You better, you know, pick up your game. You know,
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the Big Ten had to do that as well. Big
Ten realized we got to get bigger, We got we
gotta get speed. We have to recruit different athletes here,
different parts of the country. And Notre Dame it always
felt like Notre Dame was his step slower, you know,
and I don't I didn't know if it was their
shoes or if it was the turf or my shoes
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or bag. Yeah, that's a great call. Hey, why are
we slower than everybody else?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
We are?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Those pleas they look really slow. They ran like they
were irish. Hey, oh why can they make that shoke?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Oh that's right, you can. All right. When we come back,
Pat forty will join us. You'll clear up all of
this about college football, and we'll talk about what it's
like to get pepper sprayed in Columbus, Ohio. We're back
after this on the Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (16:45):
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He might be the first guest we've had on who
has been pepper sprayed, at least officially pepper sprayed. I'm
not sure recently pepper sprayed. He's Pat forty from Sports
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Illustrated and he was there in Columbus, Ohio State and Michigan.
How does it feel to get pepper sprayed? Penn?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
It doesn't taste good, Dan, My food review of pepper
spray is not overwhelmingly positive. It really didn't get in
my eyes much. I was wearing glasses and maybe that
a help. But it got in my mouth and it's unpleasant,
that's for sure. Mostly I was like, what the hell
is actually happening here? And then people started reeling out
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of there with you know, their eyes watering and choking
and everything. I was like, Oh, we've just been pepper sprayed.
This is a new college football achievement for me.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I you know, when's college football, so it should be
doctor pepper spray. You know, with the big sponsor, you
can use that if you want. How did it get
to the point where pepper spray was needed after that game.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I'm not sure. It felt to me a little like
an overreaction. I mean, it was violent in there, for sure.
I didn't get all the way into the middle of
the octagon as it were, But I mean there were punches,
kicks being thrown, people getting bloodied. But I thought that
this could have been handled without all of a sudden
guys wearing sheriff jackets just turning around and spraying wide swaths.
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So I don't know. I think it was an overreaction
to a couple of teams overreacting.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Okay, does college football look at this bigger picture? We've
seen a recent outbreak in planting the flag here? Does
college football care about this? The NCAA care to act
upon this?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, college football cares for sure. The NCUBA would probably
like to care, but it's basically been kicked out of
college football. The conferences don't like the look. We've heard
from some commissioners and some other people that think it's
a bad look. It'll be one of those you know,
January NCAA Conventions Spring Conference meetings talking points, and they'll
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kick it around. I wouldn't be surprised if they come
up with some sort of fine structures, or if they
come up with a and it's gonna be conferenced by conference,
but a legislation of like you don't bring your flags
on the road, or you got to put your flags
in the locker room with five minutes left in the
game or whatever. You can't have nice things, Dan, if
you can't play nicely.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
All right, your reaction to the latest rankings.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I thought Miami got screwed. It's close. It's not like
this is, you know, the biggest Travis Dew we've ever seen.
But I would have had Miami ahead of Alabama. But
we've seen historically Alabama gets in the SEC gets what
it wants. Greg sank all but planted his flag in
October saying this has to go incredibly well. And I
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think a lot of people took that as marching orders
of we better get all of our teams in that
deserve to get in, maybe even some that don't deserve
to get in.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, I wonder, and I said this when it happened.
The SEC is going to get in at least three schools.
Like it almost feels like, all right, we're gonna sign
up for this. We're gonna play along with you, but
you better be fair to us. At the end of
the year, Alabama is getting in because of their brand.
Miami used to have a brand. They don't have a
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brand anymore. How much of a factor do you think
that that has played in.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I think it's undeniable. I mean, they can try to
deny it, but I don't believe it. I think the
Alabama brand is so strong that losses for them seem
to matter less. Certain wins even seem to matter more.
It may just mean more that The point where I thought,
not necessarily that the fix is in, but that they
were excessively enamored with the Alabama brand was two weeks
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ago when they beat Mercer, an FCS team had moved
up three spots. They moved up three spots in the
rankings by beating Mercer. Then they lose by three touchdowns
to Oklahoma. But Ward Manuel comes out and says, well,
Miami wasn't playing well at the end. Was Alabama playing well?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
No? I don't know what goes on in those meetings.
I don't know if, like, are there directives that go
on when the committee gets together.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
We all don't know what goes on in the meetings,
And that's one of the biggest frustrations of this really
is just a lack of real knowledge. It'd be great
to have a camera in there, to have a reporter
in there, to have something in there to tell the
public what actually does happen, what are the discussion points,
what you know, where are the tension points? And yes,
what's the discussion level of how's this going to look
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or how's this going to play? Those things I would
love to know, but we don't really have an accurate
summation of that.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
We also have gotten to a point where and these
commissioners know they don't want to play in a conference
championship game because of the risk it was a money
grab for these conferences. Well now the money's available in
the twelve team playoff. They want to slowly diminish what
these conference championship games means, certainly for the Big Ten
and the SEC. So how do you do that where
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you kind of you can't eradicate, but how do you
diminish them? Therefore, don't you know these games don't really
mean that much other than you're going to win your
conference championship?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Right? I don't know. It's a difficult one. Because they're
addicted to the money from that. They're adicted to the
money period from all sources, but they like the money
that comes with this. They also they like the celebration
of the league court of sort of stage that it
gives them. The big ten networks are going to do
nothing but right talk about and laud the league for
two days in Indianapolis. The SEC network's going to do
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the same thing in Atlanta. The ACC network will do
the same thing in Charlotte. The leagues like that, and
they like the money. So I don't know how you
separate that and diminish the conference championship more. I've never
liked the conference championships. I thought they were double jeopardy
for the best teams, had chance for a fluky outcome,
hands for injuries. But now you're right with the playoff
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and the way we've got it structured, it's even less
important and probably more damaging. Although you can at least
safeguard to a degree, which I think they're trying to
do here, that both teams in your conference championship are
probably getting in to the playoff.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
He's pad forty from Sports Illustrated senior writer. The teams
that are on the bubble. Who could be bounced this
weekend most likely?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, I mean Alabama's rooting hard for SMU because if
Clemson wins, Alabama theoretically could be out, but the committee
could also just find another way to keep Alabama in
and bounce SMU. So the ACC Championship game, I think
is really where it's at. The Mountain West Championship game
between Boise and UNLV is interesting, you know. I mean,
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can Boise hold on to a top four seed and
a first round by and probably kick the Big twelve
into playing a first round road game with a champion
of that league. So those are the two spots, The
ACC and the Mountain West games, I think are the
two that where there's really some actual tension about what
might happen.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
What do you think changes about the playoffs next year?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I would suspect, whether it's next year, whether it's twenty
twenty seven, more likely that the first round buys do
not go to four conference champions, that they will go
to the four highest ranked teams. I think the Big
ten and SEC will say, okay, enough of that, we
let you stay in our tournament. Big twelve in ACC,
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but in Mountain West or whoever, but you're not getting
the buys and they will try to take all of.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Those any chance. Travis Hunter wins the Heisman unanimously.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
No, I don't think so. I think there's a decent
support for Ashton Genty, who's a great player. I think
Travis Hunter wins, and probably wins by a considerable margin.
But I think Ashton Genty, and especially if he puts
up two hundred yards Friday night, you know, that'll probably
help him some more. Again, I don't think Travis Hunter loses,
but but I don't think it's an absolute landslide.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, because I argued that Shador Sanders has kind of quietly,
which is hard to say about Colorado and being Dion
Sun quietly had an unbelievable season, and that dude can
take some punishment he gets hit. Travis Hunter is exciting
and the potential is wonderful. You know, I was making
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a case Genti and Shaudour, what they've meant to their
teams probably more valuable than Travis Hunter is to Colorado.
Is that crazy to say?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Well? No, I mean you can make that argument. I
would say Travis Hunter might be more valuable because he
does indeed play two positions. But Shoudroy Sanders has been unbelievable.
I mean, if he's in the top three, he deserves it.
Your point about him getting hit and taking it is
well made, because that is one tough quarterback. He takes
a pounding, he gets sacked a lot, he holds the ball,
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he doesn't bail out on play. It's impressive what he's
done this year. He's a really, really good player.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Best running back that you ever saw, I mean, Genty
is getting into that Barry Sanders territory with these numbers.
Barry did it, of course, you know, against better competition probably,
but best running back you ever saw.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
In person in college, I would say Adrian Peterson. He
was just unbelievable at Oklahoma. Now, you know all the time,
I mean Barry Sanders, you watched him and it was
like watching a magician or like an adult playing with
children where nobody could just catch him. He just made
you look silly. So those two come to mind. Walter Payton,
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of course, but I didn't see him in college. You know,
I love the way Walter Payton just defeated tacklers. But Genty.
Genty's legit, man, He's got size and he's just got
great feet. I mean his feet. He reminds me of
Ladanian Tomlinson that that comparisons made can catch the ball
as well. And he's just he's a heck of a player.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Great to talk to you. And are you going to
the ACC title game?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I am, yes, gonna go see if Clemson can drop
something in the punch bowl.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
What do you think the chances are you get pepper
sprayed again?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I think much lower. Okay, a horseshoe, much lower. But
I might be back in the horse shoe if I
have a first round game and I'll be bringing protecting here.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
How safe is Ryan Day in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I think he's relatively safe if he wants to be safe.
If he doesn't want to go, I think he might
be willing to reconsider how much he wants to be there.
But I don't see.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Oh hold on that. Ryan Day may say, you know what,
I don't want to be under this microscope anymore.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, I mean I don't think that's out of the question.
That this has become almost an untenable situation. If he
can get another job that wants to pay him ten
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
A year, what about Urban Meyer coming back to Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Let's not. I don't think so. I don't think that
would happen. Ross Biorke. I think the new ad there,
if he were to get the chance to make a hire,
I think he would want to establish his own sort
of signature on the program.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, because I think the people who got rid of
urban Meyer aren't there at Ohio State anymore.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
They're not. No, that's true. I mean it would be
a fresh slate, but I still am not sure. I
think ross Byork has enough ambition that he was like,
I'm not bringing back a guy that's going to be
you know, just immediately dwarf me.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
He's patent forty. He's not afraid of your pepper spray,
and he could be coming to a stadium near you.
Thank you, pat thank you. That's bad forty going to
the ACC title gay probably won't get pepper sprayed. You know,
in college football fans are so passionate. I saw where
Pad forty put out, hey, I just got pepper sprayed,
(28:52):
and then I saw a comment from a college football
fan who said, good spray him again. I think that
must have said something about somebody's fan base, you know,
and they hold those things for dear life. I think
there are people still upset at Chris Fowler back to
the Peyton Manning Wow for the Heisman with Charles Woodson.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It was a big deal for decades.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
The Michigan fans still frosty at him, or is at
Tennessee fans who are frosty.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
At Tennessee fans and back in the day Tennessee from
what I was told, said no a couple of times
to game day coming back, they were salty.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yes, Marmon.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Is there a difference between passionate and absolutely insane?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Wow, it's close. I think they're They're in the same
zip code, neighborhood, on the same block. Probably it doesn't
take much effort to get from one to the other.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Yes, Mart, It's like Harvey Updyke. He was passionate and
then he was the guy that Jos Corners. Yeah he
poisoned the trees.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah yeah, the Alabama fan Yeah, okay, yes, Tom, that
was a pretty big thing that Pat just dropped that.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Ryan Day would say, I've had enough year.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
I just don't need this aggravation and stress.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I'm done. Yeah, yeah, I hadn't heard that. Now is
he reporting that?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
No?
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Thinking now they're getting into those waters that we love to.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Oh, I know him around and you're right, well, no,
Pat's not an insider. Adam Schefter is an insider. And
Schefty said I could see Ben ben Johnson at Detroit
being interested in the Bear's job. Now that's not a report.
But when the insider says I could see where Ben
(30:41):
Johnson would be interested in the Bears, that makes me
a little nervous. Yeah. Seeon.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
But what's what really is the difference between what Pat
Forty does and what Adam Schefter does.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Well, Schefty is when he says it, it's that's the
inside part of this. Pat reports on. I don't think
his job is an insider, He's a writer. Schefty's an
information guy. Chefty doesn't write. Pat Forty wrote about the
Ohio State Michigan game. Schefty could have a report on
Ryan Day leaving to go to the NFL. I mean
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the lines are blurred because Schefty wants to be a personality,
so he might say things where hey, I could see that,
or I'm hearing you know. The people in Chicago ran
with this yesterday that Adam was saying, Hey, I could
see where Ben Johnson would be interested in the bears
well because he's saying it like Schefty can't have an
(31:35):
opinion with his job.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Unfortunately, when you're an insider, when you have an opinion,
then it feels like that's a report. Not Hey, I
could see that, But you can't do that because people
run with that like they did in Chicago. Yes, pun quickly.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I want to go back to what Pat Forty said
about Ryan Data. It is pretty surprising he could see
them just leaving Ohio State. Seaton said something earlier in
the week about Ohio State and how it's messed up
that a team a fan base bases so much of
their worth or whatever you want to call it off
one game a year and that doesn't help the franchise overall.
(32:11):
And maybe that's what Ryan Day's thinking, but.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
That's I mean, coaches have been fired because they didn't
do well against Michigan or against Ohio State. It's happened before.
It's the importance of that Now. I think with the
twelve team playoff, that might relax that a little bit
because if you lost that game, you had no chance
playing for a national championship. Now you can. Ohio State
(32:37):
is still in the mix here. But before it was
like you lost that game, you lost the integrity of
an entire state. And Ryan Day may just say, look,
I don't want any more of this now. I hadn't
heard that before.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I did.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I have friends in Columbus and they were like, you know,
there's a little chatter here. I go, what does that mean? Ah?
You know some people talk about what if urban Meyer?
I said, I can't deal in what if urban Meyer
comes back? Is there a report? Then we have something here?
Not I could see that. I don't see it, but
you know, crazier things have happened. Take a break. More
(33:15):
phone calls coming up. Jason Garrett, former Cowboys coach, coming
up next hour.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Back after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Wapp Coming up, we will give you our NOVEMBP novem VP,
the MVP of November. Nah, yeah, I know, I know.
It's just I'm having a hard time with novem VP.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
I think you're nailing it.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, NOVEMVP. That'll be coming up. Dan Levotard is going
to join us the voice of Miami Football we'll see
if he's upset with the U not in the playoffs
on the outside looking in and Jason Garrett, uh, he
will join us on loan from Football Night in America.
Time to play in or out. You're either in or
(34:07):
you're out, Pauly some topics please.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
So I present the topic. You say in, if you're in, out,
if you're out. Just do it that way. We'll be fine,
not out out unless you really really mean it. So
I guess you can say.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Out out, but you can be in in.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Oh, yeah, like, I'm in in in, You're really in?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Jameis Winston's future as NFL future. Oh, okay, Jameis Winston's
NFL future.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I'm in.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Oh that's a tensted No, I'm in, like where he
gets the keys to his own franchise again.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
In, Well, you didn't say that. Now you're changing the
question again.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
It works.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I'm in.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
It means he gets to start even when Deshaun Watson's back.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Oh, I don't know if Deshaun Watson's back. So you're
I'm in, all right? Extremely out out?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Wow, I'm out.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
I am in. The Lord will deliver more starts.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Okay, all right, okay, Corinthians.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Justin Tucker's future in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Come in, I'm still in, still in out out and
I'm in.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I should have said split the uprights are wide right?
No offense? All right? Soon, here's the one. Here's one
they just thought of. Russell Wilson went in the Comeback
Player of the Year award in in or out out?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Did anybody almost die?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Russell died a perception death as an NFL starting quarterback?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah? But did he die and come back to life
a couple of times like tomorrow Hamlin who didn't even
win and win. So you know, is Joe Flaccos so eligible?
You know, I would say Russell Wilson should be eligible
for that? Yeah, this is it. This is a massive
comeback year for him. Is he not?
Speaker 4 (36:01):
He's not eligible?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Is he? I don't know if he is or not?
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Hold on, well, he may have a good point here.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
What if we did a player who might not be
eligible for Comeback Player of the Year, but it should
be you start Russell Wilson Junior the third I'll throw
Sam Donald on there. Okay, that dude, he is having
a comeback year. If ever there was one, Okay, I
don't know who else could be on that poll question, But.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Can Bryce Young win comeback Player of the Year.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Maybe it feels a little early, Okay, feels a little early, yes.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Barkley, heck yeah, yeah, I'd roll with that. Heck yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
So this is you didn't lose a limb or a relative,
but you just weren't that great.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Okay, more of a comeback Saquon Barkley or Russell Wilson
Junior the third? Like Russ was dead, Russ Russ.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
Yeah, it's really it's really to me, it's a question
between Russell Wilson and Sam Donald because he was dead
in the water and now was a guy.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I think both I could be free. Ah Darnald and
Russ Walls.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Okay, would you sign up Russell Wilson right now? Three years,
one hundred million dollars if you're Pittsburgh, go around the room,
Todd in or out out? Seaton three years one hundred million,
three years, one hundred million dollars for Russell Wilson Junior.
The third? Uh in or out? What's the other option?
(37:26):
Keeping just a fields? Whatever they decide they go elsewhere. Yeah,
I'll throw them a hunter mill. Why not? Good for you, buddy, Yeah, yeah, Marvin,
I mean.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Paulie, I'm in. That's thirty three million a year. That's respectable.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I'm in.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I'm in for Russell Wilson, not inter out. Yes, Ton,
would Russe.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
Wilson embrace or be offended by a Comeback Player of
the Year award if he was to receive something like that.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I think he'd be fine with them. I think he'd be. Okay, Yes, Pauli,
here we go.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Interer out. Dan Lanning of Oregon is going to be
a scorching hot NFL head coaching candidate in a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
If you keep mentioning it, then I think it might happen.
I'm making it. You are making it happen.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
I think he's gonna be wildly hot as an NFL candidate,
and actually right now, but in a month from.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Now, I'm going to be out on that. I think
he needs another year. Yeah, well, you might be right.
He still could be scorching hot. Marvin, I'm out, Seaton,
I'm out, Tod I'm out too, Okay, in, Okay.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Here's one I'd rather watch the first round of the
college football playoffs over the first round of the NFL playoffs.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
M Todd in a round.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
I am out. I gotta go NFL playoffs.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
All right, see no counter.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
If I'm in, I'm watching college football. If I'm out,
I'm watching the NFL. I'm in on watching college football. Marvin,
I'm out watching the NFL.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I'm watching the college football. I'm in there.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
You go interesting. This is the last one. And this
was I put this one on in or out five
weeks ago and everybody was out except for me. I
was in. This will be Lebron James final season.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Todd out seatan. I think I'm out, Marvin out.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
He definitely announces it so he can get the tour.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, I'm out on this.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
I mean I think he announces that the All Star
break that.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
He's done this year. Yep, it looks like he's done,
gotta admit. Yeah, but take away the last two weeks.
Prior to that, he was one of the ten best
players in the game. Yeah, but now he stopped playing.
I just think he can't play. He wants to do
what Michael Jordan did and play eighty two games, and
he shouldn't be playing eighty two games, or he shouldn't
(39:47):
be averaging thirty five minutes a game.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Yes, I think the eighty two goal is all part
of this being the last season they're not. The Lakers
are a mile least.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Threatening seventh or eight seeded two right.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I think he's aware, he's a smart guy, that he's
not winning a title.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
List.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I think he would.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
He got a son in the league. He's gonna play
eighty two and out and go on to many many
other things.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
Yes, I might be with Paulie if they didn't play
in Cleveland, Like, had they had not played in Cleveland already,
then I would have been with him. So I'm still out.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I'm still so Paulie thinks that this is Lebron's last year.
He announces it at the All Star Game. Okay, that'd
be a nice pea bomb. Yeah, be nice people.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
He signed a three year contract tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
I feel like he's playing one more year. I agree
with Marvin. It feels like it would be. Hey, next
year is my last year? Yeah, yes, right, Marvin, you
see that.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
Yes, I definitely see him doing the Kobe Tour.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, it might be one year too long. Could be
this year might be one year too long. Well, no question,
Martin like getting clicks. Dan Levittard he'll defend the you
should the U be in the College football playoffs ands
and Garrett he'll join us as well. Final Hour in
this Wednesday, right after this
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spent a lot of time talking about the college football
playoff rankings. Pat Forty from Sports Illustrated covers the sport.
He was in Columbus for Ohio State and Michigan, and
I saw a tweet by him that he got pepper sprayed,
so he was obviously close to the action. Jason Garrett,
former Cowboys head coach, now a contributor analyst on Football
(00:52):
Night in America, will stop by as well. A lot
of NBA the NBA Cup rolling along. The one Soto
decision is supposed to be happening soon. This feels like
this is Scott and Boris saying to the media. Put
it out there. Last call for bids on Juan Soto.
Remember when the Sho Heo Tani sweepstakes got to six
(01:14):
hundred million and we were like, what, how is this possible?
Is he worth it?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It has proven to be worth six hundred million dollars?
But he has a global following one Soto six hundred
million dollars. He's a He's a really really good hitter.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
There's there's no global reach with one Soto. But Toronto's
in it, Red Sox are in it, Yankees in it,
Met's in it, Dodgers are in it. Maybe you'll have
an outlier there, but six hundred million. It's like when
you were growing up and somebody said somebody was a
millionaire and you're like, oh my god, if only, and
(01:58):
then all of a sudden it was a billionaire. Now
we don't even blink. Somebody's a billionaire. You're like, oh, okay,
hey jay Z's a billionaire, Hey Lebron's a big Michael's
a billionaire. We don't care. Elon Musk has how many
Warren Buffer like, it doesn't matter. Even when you look
at salaries, No, Steph Curry's making sixty million dollars, Okay,
(02:25):
Luka Doncik will make a hundred million dollars in a
year in his career. At some point he will make
a hundred million dollars. So when it gets to be
six hundred million, you're like, okay, yeah, I can see it. Well,
you know who is going to pick up the tab?
You we got all that owner's gonna spend money. Well,
(02:48):
you know what the owner is gonna do. I'm gonna
spend the money. I'm gonna raise ticket prices, parking concession.
So you're helping foot the bill if Steve Cohen wants
to bring in one Sodo, you know, because hey, we
all say the following, man, I love my owner spends money. Well,
you're spending money too, because it's going to cost you.
(03:10):
We're in this together. But six hundred million. It used
to be like you'd go no way. Remember Mike Trout
signing his deal. Harper, you're going Colley three hundred and
fifty million dollars, Aaron Judge, I could. It wasn't that
long ago. Now it's six hundred million for one Soto.
(03:34):
I'm like, okay, and I know I got some baseball
analysts they pushed back on me. Saying I'd never sign
him too. I mean, you're banking on somebody staying healthy
for twelve years. He's twenty six. Okay, if you said
to the Angels, would you have done it again? If
(03:55):
you had the opportunity to sign Mike Trout given what happened,
I could I get three really good players for six
hundred million dollars That might make my team better. I
mean that would be my approach. But if you got
the money, you want to spend the money, and you
bring in one Soto, then you're the Mets great. You
(04:18):
keep him from the Yankees and the Dodgers great. I
just wouldn't go out of my way to watch one Sodo.
I mean, if he's on TV, I'd go, oh, okay,
he gets on base He certainly loved right field at
Yankee Stadium, that that short porch there. But otanis must
see TV Harper, you turn tune in to see him.
(04:40):
I mean, you know Paul's schemes. I would tune in.
Baseball doesn't have enough tune in factor, Guys, I don't
know what I mean won Soto. It's forty homers, drives
in one hundred and twenty runs, and what it hits
two eighty five and not a good fielder, and I
don't I mean, what else are you getting? I don't know,
for six undred million, I'd like a little more. Yes,
(05:04):
Marvin was a Rod. The first contract where everyone thought,
this is outrageous. Two hundred and fifty million dollars over
ten years. Was that the first like really ridiculous contract,
trying to think, I mean, that's up there because he
went to Texas, And I think that that was the
(05:26):
surprising part of it is Scott Boris got Texas to
pony up foolishly and spend that kind of money, and
then even a Rod going to the Yankees, And then
I think one of his excuses for using steroids was
the pressure to live up to his contract when he
went to the Yankees. Yes, Bowen, do.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You know what I remember for the most public reaction
in the time of this show and before from a
player getting paid, guys like John Contact, this big stiff
center in the NBA. He got like, I don't know me,
you may have gotten like four million a year for six.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Years with the Atlanta Hull.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, I went berserk. And then there was a guy
named a Donald Foyle who was a barely passable center.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Golden State, Golden State, and he.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Got a nice contract. And that's where he's like, so
you could be bad at your job and become a multi.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Nay, well, I remember John Contact, his nickname was John
Contract because he signed this contract and he wasn't a
good player. I think he played at SMU and then
he went to the Hawks. You know, he's serviceable big man.
But at the time, you're going, he's getting that kind
of money. He might have been getting paid more money
than Michael Jordan with his contract.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
You're correct. They were both at two point five million
at one.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Time, and then Johnny contract went to four million, I
think correct, and you know people went apoplectic with that.
It's the right place, right time, is really what it is.
Soto is turning twenty six, and this is the sweet
spot here. He's going to get paid. He's going to
get paid a lot of money. And you know comes
down to is he worth it well?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
To me?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
No, But I'm just the I'm just a baseball fan.
If if that's my team and I get him and
we can win championships, okay, I don't. I don't know
if he's the guy that leads you to the Promised Land.
But he is a great hitter. That's it. Great hitter.
Otani gives you a global exposure. He's a he did
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something no one's ever done in the history of the game,
and he's going to be continuing to do those things.
Now he goes back to pitching and hitting. He showed
what he could do. Hey, I can't pitch, Well, let
me show you what I can do. And then you
have the entire you know, far East Japanese market, like
(07:42):
you have all of that Dodger games over there. What
those numbers were during the World Series, the playoffs over there. Okay,
I can capitalize on. I can monetize that Wan Soto,
I can't monetize that.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Yeah, Marvin and we talked baseball all season long because
of one guy show Hal Tani. We're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So eight seven seven three DP show email andres s
Dpadan Patrick dot com Twitter handle at DP show. The
Texans are still a little salty with the disease al
Shire suspension. Now, we talked about it a lot, and
we talked about it yesterday. Three game suspension. Nick Cassario
(08:21):
is the Texans GM and he thinks that his player
has well. The portrait of him is incorrect of who
this player is. Look, it is what it is.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
I think the big thing from our standpoint and all
teams want this is just some level of consistency. And
we've talked to the league quite frankly, but we don't
have a good explanation. Dimiko talked to him yesterday. So
I mean, it is what it is. I'm sure Aziz
will go through whatever process he's going to go through,
and then we'll deal with it accordingly. But I think
what we take umbragees is just the picture that's been
painted about disease, his intentions, who he is as a person.
(08:57):
I mean, it's quite frankly, it's bold, and it's unfair
the individual.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's unfair of the organization.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I mean, we love everything about as he's all shay here,
what he means to this team, what he brings.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
To this to this team. Okay, I'm sure he is
a good guy. I think he was working something with
United Way yesterday. He's a team captain, He's got two
priors to this. He punched somebody he wants grab Brady
around the neck. He hit Tony Pollard out of bounds
(09:31):
two yards out of bounds from behind. Can you blame
Trevor Lawrence that he slid too late? Okay? Your player
went up top with a forum right to his head,
right to his head. So look, you're defending your player. Great,
Not sure why you are. Feels like you're over defending
(09:55):
your player. Are you sending a message here? Like, what's
the message you're sending here? Hey, we support our guys. Okay, great,
tell me how you support him with the other plays
that he had. I'd like to hear that. And why
is it You can complain about the punishment, but you
(10:15):
can't complain about the officials on a call like he's
not getting Nick Cassario, The GM doesn't get suspended or punished.
If he's critical of the punishment, you don't get punished
by the NFL. But if you criticize, if he said,
you know, the officials are terrible, well he's going to
get fined fifty thousand dollars. You could be critical of
(10:36):
the NFL handing out the punishment to your player and
the NFL doesn't do anything about it. But I think
you got to be fair with the totality of this
player in his career. If he didn't have any priors,
then maybe we look at this differently, and these are
recent priors. Is it going to get maybe reduced to
(10:57):
two games if they appeal? Maybe? Like, okay, so what
you couldn't get him off the field. He took his
helmet off, you know. And then you have your head
coach who's calling out Jacksonville saying they overreacted. Can somebody
please ask Damiko Ryans coach, if CJ. Stroud got hit
(11:19):
like that by a Jacksonville player and your players didn't
defend him, how would you feel that's over That's a
silly comment by him. They overreacted. Their franchise quarterback is
knocked out. If your franchise quarterback was knocked out and
your players didn't go on the field, how would you
(11:39):
have reacted? That's it, coach, you got an answer? Oh
you don't. Okay, we move on from that. It's silly
to say that every coach wants his player to be
out there to defend his quarterback after a cheap shot
like that, and I would want the Texans to do
the same if it happened to CJ.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Stroud.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
All right, yeah, point, Could you make the case though,
that the defense if this were a star defensive player,
he would not have been fined the same or suspended
the same such as same exact hit TJ. Watt.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, but I can't do that. Well. I think that'd
be like if I said, if Jakobe Brissett got hit,
is somebody going to be suspended?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
But I think that's kind of what Nick Casaria is saying,
that my guy, because he's a nobody, is getting lit
up more than he should for a hit that happens.
I think that's what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
But his player has priors here, and he's known only
because of the priors. Nobody's saying, boy, that guy is
an unbelievable player. They're talking about the other hits that
he had that led to this. I mean, if TJ.
Watt did the same thing, then I would hope that
(12:51):
they would suspend him as well. Now, maybe you get
the benefit of the doubt there. If that's what Nick
Cassario is saying, good luck with that. But that that
we're sorry your player is not known like TJ. Watt is,
you don't get the benefit of the doubt. He created
this situation where he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.
(13:13):
If it's a marquee defensive player and he's doing that.
Are they more lenient? I hope they're not. Maybe they are,
but still the Texans they can they can blame their
player for putting their player in that situation.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
All right.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Poll question for hour two is gonna be one seed?
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Let me update you from our one since we had
two of them. Alabama will ultimately get into the twelve
team playoff because let's see right now, ninety one percent
of the audience say it's because they're Alabama, not because
they deserve to be in. Okay, ninety one percent, that's
a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It is.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
Miami will ultimately get left out of the twelve team
playoff because fifty three percent is because they just don't
be in, not because they just don't have the same
name value anymore. Okay, they are down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Do we have something for hour two that we're going with.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Yeah, I did think about, just to see if we
get a different result. The Miami Hurricanes got hosed or
hosed themselves just because the wording is so it's so wonderful,
Yeah who hosed who themselves? Or yeah, you could Todd
had another one too. It's the two or four falls
no school has a strong case if they get left
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out of the college football playoffs. I think that's kind
of fair. Nobody really has a case if they get
left out.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah. Did Florida State have a case last year? Right?
They did? They were undefeated, It's just they didn't have
their quarterback.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yes, And we've been talking a lot.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Recent weeks on how there's really no great team in
college football. So because of that, who could really feel
that snubbed if they're number thirteen or fourteen after we
hear what happens on Sunday from the selection.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, there's still going to be, you know, teams that complain.
You know, it's weird. Do we look at Oregon as
a great team? Probably not undefeated? But I don't know
if we recognize them even though they're in the Big
Ten now. But it still feels like it's an sec
world that we live in. Now. You're talking about Georgia
(15:28):
and you're talking about Alabama, and then you get around
to like Notre Dame is really good, Like that's a
really solid go back to when Alabama and Notre Dame
played what was that a decade ago? And that was ugly,
Like that's when you saw Oh my gosh, that's SEC football, Alabama.
You better, you know, pick up your game. You know,
(15:49):
the Big Ten had to do that as well. Big
Ten realized we got to get bigger, We got we
gotta get speed. We have to recruit different athletes here,
different parts of the country. And Notre Dame it always
felt like Notre Dame was his step slower, you know,
and I don't I didn't know if it was their
shoes or if it was the turf or my shoes
(16:10):
or bag. Yeah, that's a great call. Hey, why are
we slower than everybody else?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
We are?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Those pleas they look really slow. They ran like they
were irish. Hey, oh why can they make that shoke?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Oh that's right, you can. All right. When we come back,
Pat forty will join us. You'll clear up all of
this about college football, and we'll talk about what it's
like to get pepper sprayed in Columbus, Ohio. We're back
after this on the Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (16:45):
Sunday night, Justin Herbert Chargers, Patrick Mahomes the Chiefs that'll
be at Arrowhead Sunday seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock.
He might be the first guest we've had on who
has been pepper sprayed, at least officially pepper sprayed. I'm
not sure recently pepper sprayed. He's Pat forty from Sports
(17:06):
Illustrated and he was there in Columbus, Ohio State and Michigan.
How does it feel to get pepper sprayed? Penn?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
It doesn't taste good, Dan, My food review of pepper
spray is not overwhelmingly positive. It really didn't get in
my eyes much. I was wearing glasses and maybe that
a help. But it got in my mouth and it's unpleasant,
that's for sure. Mostly I was like, what the hell
is actually happening here? And then people started reeling out
(17:34):
of there with you know, their eyes watering and choking
and everything. I was like, Oh, we've just been pepper sprayed.
This is a new college football achievement for me.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I you know, when's college football, so it should be
doctor pepper spray. You know, with the big sponsor, you
can use that if you want. How did it get
to the point where pepper spray was needed after that game.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I'm not sure. It felt to me a little like
an overreaction. I mean, it was violent in there, for sure.
I didn't get all the way into the middle of
the octagon as it were, But I mean there were punches,
kicks being thrown, people getting bloodied. But I thought that
this could have been handled without all of a sudden
guys wearing sheriff jackets just turning around and spraying wide swaths.
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So I don't know. I think it was an overreaction
to a couple of teams overreacting.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Okay, does college football look at this bigger picture? We've
seen a recent outbreak in planting the flag here? Does
college football care about this? The NCAA care to act
upon this?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, college football cares for sure. The NCUBA would probably
like to care, but it's basically been kicked out of
college football. The conferences don't like the look. We've heard
from some commissioners and some other people that think it's
a bad look. It'll be one of those you know,
January NCAA Conventions Spring Conference meetings talking points, and they'll
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kick it around. I wouldn't be surprised if they come
up with some sort of fine structures, or if they
come up with a and it's gonna be conferenced by conference,
but a legislation of like you don't bring your flags
on the road, or you got to put your flags
in the locker room with five minutes left in the
game or whatever. You can't have nice things, Dan, if
you can't play nicely.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
All right, your reaction to the latest rankings.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I thought Miami got screwed. It's close. It's not like
this is, you know, the biggest Travis Dew we've ever seen.
But I would have had Miami ahead of Alabama. But
we've seen historically Alabama gets in the SEC gets what
it wants. Greg sank all but planted his flag in
October saying this has to go incredibly well. And I
(19:46):
think a lot of people took that as marching orders
of we better get all of our teams in that
deserve to get in, maybe even some that don't deserve
to get in.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, I wonder, and I said this when it happened.
The SEC is going to get in at least three schools.
Like it almost feels like, all right, we're gonna sign
up for this. We're gonna play along with you, but
you better be fair to us. At the end of
the year, Alabama is getting in because of their brand.
Miami used to have a brand. They don't have a
(20:16):
brand anymore. How much of a factor do you think
that that has played in.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I think it's undeniable. I mean, they can try to
deny it, but I don't believe it. I think the
Alabama brand is so strong that losses for them seem
to matter less. Certain wins even seem to matter more.
It may just mean more that The point where I thought,
not necessarily that the fix is in, but that they
were excessively enamored with the Alabama brand was two weeks
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ago when they beat Mercer, an FCS team had moved
up three spots. They moved up three spots in the
rankings by beating Mercer. Then they lose by three touchdowns
to Oklahoma. But Ward Manuel comes out and says, well,
Miami wasn't playing well at the end. Was Alabama playing well?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
No? I don't know what goes on in those meetings.
I don't know if, like, are there directives that go
on when the committee gets together.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
We all don't know what goes on in the meetings,
And that's one of the biggest frustrations of this really
is just a lack of real knowledge. It'd be great
to have a camera in there, to have a reporter
in there, to have something in there to tell the
public what actually does happen, what are the discussion points,
what you know, where are the tension points? And yes,
what's the discussion level of how's this going to look
(21:36):
or how's this going to play? Those things I would
love to know, but we don't really have an accurate
summation of that.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
We also have gotten to a point where and these
commissioners know they don't want to play in a conference
championship game because of the risk it was a money
grab for these conferences. Well now the money's available in
the twelve team playoff. They want to slowly diminish what
these conference championship games means, certainly for the Big Ten
and the SEC. So how do you do that where
(22:07):
you kind of you can't eradicate, but how do you
diminish them? Therefore, don't you know these games don't really
mean that much other than you're going to win your
conference championship?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Right? I don't know. It's a difficult one. Because they're
addicted to the money from that. They're adicted to the
money period from all sources, but they like the money
that comes with this. They also they like the celebration
of the league court of sort of stage that it
gives them. The big ten networks are going to do
nothing but right talk about and laud the league for
two days in Indianapolis. The SEC network's going to do
(22:40):
the same thing in Atlanta. The ACC network will do
the same thing in Charlotte. The leagues like that, and
they like the money. So I don't know how you
separate that and diminish the conference championship more. I've never
liked the conference championships. I thought they were double jeopardy
for the best teams, had chance for a fluky outcome,
hands for injuries. But now you're right with the playoff
(23:03):
and the way we've got it structured, it's even less
important and probably more damaging. Although you can at least
safeguard to a degree, which I think they're trying to
do here, that both teams in your conference championship are
probably getting in to the playoff.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
He's pad forty from Sports Illustrated senior writer. The teams
that are on the bubble. Who could be bounced this
weekend most likely?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, I mean Alabama's rooting hard for SMU because if
Clemson wins, Alabama theoretically could be out, but the committee
could also just find another way to keep Alabama in
and bounce SMU. So the ACC Championship game, I think
is really where it's at. The Mountain West Championship game
between Boise and UNLV is interesting, you know. I mean,
(23:47):
can Boise hold on to a top four seed and
a first round by and probably kick the Big twelve
into playing a first round road game with a champion
of that league. So those are the two spots, The
ACC and the Mountain West games, I think are the
two that where there's really some actual tension about what
might happen.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
What do you think changes about the playoffs next year?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I would suspect, whether it's next year, whether it's twenty
twenty seven, more likely that the first round buys do
not go to four conference champions, that they will go
to the four highest ranked teams. I think the Big
ten and SEC will say, okay, enough of that, we
let you stay in our tournament. Big twelve in ACC,
(24:30):
but in Mountain West or whoever, but you're not getting
the buys and they will try to take all of.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Those any chance. Travis Hunter wins the Heisman unanimously.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
No, I don't think so. I think there's a decent
support for Ashton Genty, who's a great player. I think
Travis Hunter wins, and probably wins by a considerable margin.
But I think Ashton Genty, and especially if he puts
up two hundred yards Friday night, you know, that'll probably
help him some more. Again, I don't think Travis Hunter loses,
but but I don't think it's an absolute landslide.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, because I argued that Shador Sanders has kind of quietly,
which is hard to say about Colorado and being Dion
Sun quietly had an unbelievable season, and that dude can
take some punishment he gets hit. Travis Hunter is exciting
and the potential is wonderful. You know, I was making
(25:25):
a case Genti and Shaudour, what they've meant to their
teams probably more valuable than Travis Hunter is to Colorado.
Is that crazy to say?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Well? No, I mean you can make that argument. I
would say Travis Hunter might be more valuable because he
does indeed play two positions. But Shoudroy Sanders has been unbelievable.
I mean, if he's in the top three, he deserves it.
Your point about him getting hit and taking it is
well made, because that is one tough quarterback. He takes
a pounding, he gets sacked a lot, he holds the ball,
(25:58):
he doesn't bail out on play. It's impressive what he's
done this year. He's a really, really good player.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Best running back that you ever saw, I mean, Genty
is getting into that Barry Sanders territory with these numbers.
Barry did it, of course, you know, against better competition probably,
but best running back you ever saw.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
In person in college, I would say Adrian Peterson. He
was just unbelievable at Oklahoma. Now, you know all the time,
I mean Barry Sanders, you watched him and it was
like watching a magician or like an adult playing with
children where nobody could just catch him. He just made
you look silly. So those two come to mind. Walter Payton,
(26:40):
of course, but I didn't see him in college. You know,
I love the way Walter Payton just defeated tacklers. But Genty.
Genty's legit, man, He's got size and he's just got
great feet. I mean his feet. He reminds me of
Ladanian Tomlinson that that comparisons made can catch the ball
as well. And he's just he's a heck of a player.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Great to talk to you. And are you going to
the ACC title game?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I am, yes, gonna go see if Clemson can drop
something in the punch bowl.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
What do you think the chances are you get pepper
sprayed again?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I think much lower. Okay, a horseshoe, much lower. But
I might be back in the horse shoe if I
have a first round game and I'll be bringing protecting here.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
How safe is Ryan Day in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I think he's relatively safe if he wants to be safe.
If he doesn't want to go, I think he might
be willing to reconsider how much he wants to be there.
But I don't see.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Oh hold on that. Ryan Day may say, you know what,
I don't want to be under this microscope anymore.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, I mean I don't think that's out of the question.
That this has become almost an untenable situation. If he
can get another job that wants to pay him ten
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
A year, what about Urban Meyer coming back to Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Let's not. I don't think so. I don't think that
would happen. Ross Biorke. I think the new ad there,
if he were to get the chance to make a hire,
I think he would want to establish his own sort
of signature on the program.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, because I think the people who got rid of
urban Meyer aren't there at Ohio State anymore.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
They're not. No, that's true. I mean it would be
a fresh slate, but I still am not sure. I
think ross Byork has enough ambition that he was like,
I'm not bringing back a guy that's going to be
you know, just immediately dwarf me.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
He's patent forty. He's not afraid of your pepper spray,
and he could be coming to a stadium near you.
Thank you, pat thank you. That's bad forty going to
the ACC title gay probably won't get pepper sprayed. You know,
in college football fans are so passionate. I saw where
Pad forty put out, hey, I just got pepper sprayed,
(28:52):
and then I saw a comment from a college football
fan who said, good spray him again. I think that
must have said something about somebody's fan base, you know,
and they hold those things for dear life. I think
there are people still upset at Chris Fowler back to
the Peyton Manning Wow for the Heisman with Charles Woodson.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It was a big deal for decades.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
The Michigan fans still frosty at him, or is at
Tennessee fans who are frosty.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
At Tennessee fans and back in the day Tennessee from
what I was told, said no a couple of times
to game day coming back, they were salty.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yes, Marmon.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Is there a difference between passionate and absolutely insane?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Wow, it's close. I think they're They're in the same
zip code, neighborhood, on the same block. Probably it doesn't
take much effort to get from one to the other.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Yes, Mart, It's like Harvey Updyke. He was passionate and
then he was the guy that Jos Corners. Yeah he
poisoned the trees.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah yeah, the Alabama fan Yeah, okay, yes, Tom, that
was a pretty big thing that Pat just dropped that.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Ryan Day would say, I've had enough year.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
I just don't need this aggravation and stress.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I'm done. Yeah, yeah, I hadn't heard that. Now is
he reporting that?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
No?
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Thinking now they're getting into those waters that we love to.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Oh, I know him around and you're right, well, no,
Pat's not an insider. Adam Schefter is an insider. And
Schefty said I could see Ben ben Johnson at Detroit
being interested in the Bear's job. Now that's not a report.
But when the insider says I could see where Ben
(30:41):
Johnson would be interested in the Bears, that makes me
a little nervous. Yeah. Seeon.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
But what's what really is the difference between what Pat
Forty does and what Adam Schefter does.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Well, Schefty is when he says it, it's that's the
inside part of this. Pat reports on. I don't think
his job is an insider, He's a writer. Schefty's an
information guy. Chefty doesn't write. Pat Forty wrote about the
Ohio State Michigan game. Schefty could have a report on
Ryan Day leaving to go to the NFL. I mean
(31:14):
the lines are blurred because Schefty wants to be a personality,
so he might say things where hey, I could see that,
or I'm hearing you know. The people in Chicago ran
with this yesterday that Adam was saying, Hey, I could
see where Ben Johnson would be interested in the bears
well because he's saying it like Schefty can't have an
(31:35):
opinion with his job.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Unfortunately, when you're an insider, when you have an opinion,
then it feels like that's a report. Not Hey, I
could see that, But you can't do that because people
run with that like they did in Chicago. Yes, pun quickly.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I want to go back to what Pat Forty said
about Ryan Data. It is pretty surprising he could see
them just leaving Ohio State. Seaton said something earlier in
the week about Ohio State and how it's messed up
that a team a fan base bases so much of
their worth or whatever you want to call it off
one game a year and that doesn't help the franchise overall.
(32:11):
And maybe that's what Ryan Day's thinking, but.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
That's I mean, coaches have been fired because they didn't
do well against Michigan or against Ohio State. It's happened before.
It's the importance of that Now. I think with the
twelve team playoff, that might relax that a little bit
because if you lost that game, you had no chance
playing for a national championship. Now you can. Ohio State
(32:37):
is still in the mix here. But before it was
like you lost that game, you lost the integrity of
an entire state. And Ryan Day may just say, look,
I don't want any more of this now. I hadn't
heard that before.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I did.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I have friends in Columbus and they were like, you know,
there's a little chatter here. I go, what does that mean? Ah?
You know some people talk about what if urban Meyer?
I said, I can't deal in what if urban Meyer
comes back? Is there a report? Then we have something here?
Not I could see that. I don't see it, but
you know, crazier things have happened. Take a break. More
(33:15):
phone calls coming up. Jason Garrett, former Cowboys coach, coming
up next hour.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Back after this, be sure to catch the live edition
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Speaker 2 (33:30):
Wapp Coming up, we will give you our NOVEMBP novem VP,
the MVP of November. Nah, yeah, I know, I know.
It's just I'm having a hard time with novem VP.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
I think you're nailing it.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, NOVEMVP. That'll be coming up. Dan Levotard is going
to join us the voice of Miami Football we'll see
if he's upset with the U not in the playoffs
on the outside looking in and Jason Garrett, uh, he
will join us on loan from Football Night in America.
Time to play in or out. You're either in or
(34:07):
you're out, Pauly some topics please.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
So I present the topic. You say in, if you're in, out,
if you're out. Just do it that way. We'll be fine,
not out out unless you really really mean it. So
I guess you can say.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Out out, but you can be in in.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Oh, yeah, like, I'm in in in, You're really in?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Jameis Winston's future as NFL future. Oh, okay, Jameis Winston's
NFL future.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I'm in.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Oh that's a tensted No, I'm in, like where he
gets the keys to his own franchise again.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
In, Well, you didn't say that. Now you're changing the
question again.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
It works.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I'm in.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
It means he gets to start even when Deshaun Watson's back.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Oh, I don't know if Deshaun Watson's back. So you're
I'm in, all right? Extremely out out?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Wow, I'm out.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
I am in. The Lord will deliver more starts.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Okay, all right, okay, Corinthians.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Justin Tucker's future in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Come in, I'm still in, still in out out and
I'm in.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I should have said split the uprights are wide right?
No offense? All right? Soon, here's the one. Here's one
they just thought of. Russell Wilson went in the Comeback
Player of the Year award in in or out out?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Did anybody almost die?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Russell died a perception death as an NFL starting quarterback?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah? But did he die and come back to life
a couple of times like tomorrow Hamlin who didn't even
win and win. So you know, is Joe Flaccos so eligible?
You know, I would say Russell Wilson should be eligible
for that? Yeah, this is it. This is a massive
comeback year for him. Is he not?
Speaker 4 (36:01):
He's not eligible?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Is he? I don't know if he is or not?
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Hold on, well, he may have a good point here.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
What if we did a player who might not be
eligible for Comeback Player of the Year, but it should
be you start Russell Wilson Junior the third I'll throw
Sam Donald on there. Okay, that dude, he is having
a comeback year. If ever there was one, Okay, I
don't know who else could be on that poll question, But.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Can Bryce Young win comeback Player of the Year.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Maybe it feels a little early, Okay, feels a little early, yes.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Barkley, heck yeah, yeah, I'd roll with that. Heck yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
So this is you didn't lose a limb or a relative,
but you just weren't that great.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Okay, more of a comeback Saquon Barkley or Russell Wilson
Junior the third? Like Russ was dead, Russ Russ.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
Yeah, it's really it's really to me, it's a question
between Russell Wilson and Sam Donald because he was dead
in the water and now was a guy.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I think both I could be free. Ah Darnald and
Russ Walls.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Okay, would you sign up Russell Wilson right now? Three years,
one hundred million dollars if you're Pittsburgh, go around the room,
Todd in or out out? Seaton three years one hundred million,
three years, one hundred million dollars for Russell Wilson Junior.
The third? Uh in or out? What's the other option?
(37:26):
Keeping just a fields? Whatever they decide they go elsewhere. Yeah,
I'll throw them a hunter mill. Why not? Good for you, buddy, Yeah, yeah, Marvin,
I mean.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Paulie, I'm in. That's thirty three million a year. That's respectable.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I'm in.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I'm in for Russell Wilson, not inter out. Yes, Ton,
would Russe.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
Wilson embrace or be offended by a Comeback Player of
the Year award if he was to receive something like that.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I think he'd be fine with them. I think he'd be. Okay, Yes, Pauli,
here we go.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Interer out. Dan Lanning of Oregon is going to be
a scorching hot NFL head coaching candidate in a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
If you keep mentioning it, then I think it might happen.
I'm making it. You are making it happen.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
I think he's gonna be wildly hot as an NFL candidate,
and actually right now, but in a month from.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Now, I'm going to be out on that. I think
he needs another year. Yeah, well, you might be right.
He still could be scorching hot. Marvin, I'm out, Seaton,
I'm out, Tod I'm out too, Okay, in, Okay.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Here's one I'd rather watch the first round of the
college football playoffs over the first round of the NFL playoffs.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
M Todd in a round.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
I am out. I gotta go NFL playoffs.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
All right, see no counter.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
If I'm in, I'm watching college football. If I'm out,
I'm watching the NFL. I'm in on watching college football. Marvin,
I'm out watching the NFL.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I'm watching the college football. I'm in there.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
You go interesting. This is the last one. And this
was I put this one on in or out five
weeks ago and everybody was out except for me. I
was in. This will be Lebron James final season.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Todd out seatan. I think I'm out, Marvin out.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
He definitely announces it so he can get the tour.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, I'm out on this.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
I mean I think he announces that the All Star
break that.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
He's done this year. Yep, it looks like he's done,
gotta admit. Yeah, but take away the last two weeks.
Prior to that, he was one of the ten best
players in the game. Yeah, but now he stopped playing.
I just think he can't play. He wants to do
what Michael Jordan did and play eighty two games, and
he shouldn't be playing eighty two games, or he shouldn't
(39:47):
be averaging thirty five minutes a game.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Yes, I think the eighty two goal is all part
of this being the last season they're not. The Lakers
are a mile least.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Threatening seventh or eight seeded two right.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I think he's aware, he's a smart guy, that he's
not winning a title.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
List.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I think he would.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
He got a son in the league. He's gonna play
eighty two and out and go on to many many
other things.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
Yes, I might be with Paulie if they didn't play
in Cleveland, Like, had they had not played in Cleveland already,
then I would have been with him. So I'm still out.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I'm still so Paulie thinks that this is Lebron's last year.
He announces it at the All Star Game. Okay, that'd
be a nice pea bomb. Yeah, be nice people.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
He signed a three year contract tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
I feel like he's playing one more year. I agree
with Marvin. It feels like it would be. Hey, next
year is my last year? Yeah, yes, right, Marvin, you
see that.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
Yes, I definitely see him doing the Kobe Tour.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, it might be one year too long. Could be
this year might be one year too long. Well, no question,
Martin like getting clicks. Dan Levittard he'll defend the you
should the U be in the College football playoffs ands
and Garrett he'll join us as well. Final Hour in
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