December 5, 2024 • 41 mins
Ryan Leaf kicks off his final hour filling in for DP by interviewing Chargers S Derwin James Jr. And he talks to college football insider Andy Staples about the latest CFP rankings.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back everybody to the Dan
Patrick Show.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Blasted. Yeah, you know, this is a good question. You know,
how many people out there do you think would love to
pepper spray me? That might be a good one. I mean,
not as many as before, but I bet you there's
a there's a I bet you there's a line of
folks that probably wanted to pepper spray me if they
got a chance. Yes again, I'm Ryan Lee filling in
(00:30):
for Dan Patrick today. Uh, Derwin James is gonna join
us here in about four minutes to talk about the
Chargers and the new season under Jim Harbaugh as his
head coach. This is I think Seaton and I were talking.
I think we got him already, so we're gonna go.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
To him right now.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Derwin James all pro safety for my Los Angeles Chargers,
joins us.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I was just telling everybody Derwin about I lived in
LA for the last years. Man, I know what traffic,
traffic's like. You know, you get competit.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
How you doing this morning?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I'm doing good man. How y'all doing?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We're doing well, We're doing well, it's been a lot
of fun to watch you guys this year, Jesse Mentor.
You know, it's just kind of untapped a little bit
of it looks like you guys are having just so
much fun flying around young guys, guys that that that
people really don't know. And then you with out there
is kind of the stalwart on the back end. Just
talk about how much fun it's been this year to
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play under this new defensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Man I can't stop smiling every day I come into
the building. It's just deciding to come to work with
these man not only did the coaches but the players.
It's just ever since Opa, we've been just working on
but off just to go out there and compete, and
we finally found a few the results that we've been
putting in and we just want to keep going hard.
And coach Mentor, man I can't say nothing but great
things about him. He's a man, one of a kind.
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Man I haven't been around a coach like him and
coach Harball.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So you you you spoke incredibly eyely a Jimbo Fisher
you're coaching college. I spent like five seasons with him
every fall football genius. I mean when you when you
find guys that can flip that switch in you. Jim
Harbaugh shows up, there's a different mentality as a former player,
Jesse Mentor, you see guys acting different. I mean, I'm
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watching justin this year. There's like a little swagger with him.
He's throwing a touchdown, he's doing some things. I mean,
what's the locker It just it's allowed the locker room
to be a little freer, it feels, and it comes across.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Yes, sir, everybody's playing free, nobody's playing tight, and we
just create that family environment. Coach Harball, he's you got
the families that practice on Friday Saturdays. It's just creating
the family environment that I've never been around in the
NFL in my seven years. So man, it's just been
a lot of fun. And when you can make it
about family, man, you just want to go that much
harder for that person. And Uh, offense get along with offense.
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Defense get along, and it's just the whole team coming together.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's it's it's incredibly different when you walk into an
atmosphere like that. I remember that with when I was
in Tampa with Tony Dungee, Like you just go from
a coaching staff that's that's so welcoming in terms of
what makes things easy, and you wonder why that hasn't
always been the case, because you want your guys to
be the most you know, relaxed going into football games.
Talk to me about the Atlanta game. I mean, these
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games this year kind of fit the Harbaugh mold, right.
It's it's offense trying to run the football, hold people back.
But defense really had to close out that game. Talk
about that kind of final play. They went empty. They
brought Drake London over the cross in the middle, he
kind of stumbles and you just you just knew they
had to get to a point. You stepped right in
front of an end of the game with that interception.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
First of all, I feel like coach did a great
job all day calling great plays. I feel like we
was in position to make all the plays we needed
to make. And like you said, I just seen seeing
Drake London in this plot and as soon as I
see them released the ball, just try to make a
play on it for my team. And like I said,
coach made a great call. And all year long, keys
just making great calls, and as a defense, I feel
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like we just come in that much closer to the world
we want to beat.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, you get the goes up front, getting after the quarterback,
Bosa that that crew. It's it's been fun to watch
as a former Charger to see that defense kind of
going back into Rodney Harrison Junior sayout days, that's that's
some fun era of football. And we watched the Alscheizier
uh al Shire hit on on Trevor Lawrence. As a defender,
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they've made it incredibly difficult on you guys in terms
of what the heck is the quarterback going to do
as you're trying to make a little move to get
a few more yards, to pick up a first down,
to extend a drive, to end a game. You got
suspended earlier, and Coach Harbaugh was incredibly disappointed, as was
I think a lot of people that watch football, realistic football,
how tough is it to make decisions in the moment
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they'll split seconds to make those tackles and do the
right thing. In the eyes of Park Avenue in New York.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
City, it's extremely hard.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Like you say, you're playing a game at a fast speed,
a fast tempo, and as a defender, you're going to
just try to get the guy down, and sometimes the
angle can change. The guy can see you duck sometimes and.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
It's just like we got to adjust.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Like I said, they want to clean up the game, man,
And like I said, I'm all for it, man, and
I'm trying to find new ways to get better at myself.
I'm still working at it, and I just love to
play man honestly.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Man.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Like I say, it's definitely hard on the defenders. I
feel like, especially because you don't know if he's gonna fly.
You don't want to give up the first down as
a defender. So it's just tough.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, they put you in a tough spot.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
They put you in an absolutely crazy tough spot in
terms of what you have to do. Speaking of coach Harbaugh,
so I don't know if you know this. So coach
Arbaugh was my backup in San Diego. He taught me
that when he taught me how to be a professional,
you know, it was that quarterback room was crazy. If
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he could have been a player, coach, I bet you
we win a ton more games if he had been
able to be the coach. What's it been like to
have him again? And does he how active is he?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Like?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Is he out there slinging the ball around. Is he
catching the ball? I mean, how like how physical is
he with you guys in practice? Seems like a lot
of fun and it looks like he's doing it.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I feel like coach Harball is all in man, honestly. Man.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Ever since ot As he's been pulling sleds man, honestly
since he's been working out every fourth quarter drill, no
lie like he's he's over there doing manuals with us. Man,
he's really and he has his cleek on his cleek
game is crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
He got all the different Jordan's. Man, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So man, his his Jordan game from his time in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
That's what I said.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Yeah, yeah, he have his cleat song man and he
all in it man. Like you say, here a player
coach manning every day. I've scribed to be like, I'm
like a leader man. When it comes to that leader
ability to affect the whole room and the whole organization,
I feel like he's one of a con when it
comes to that.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
His track record, he goes places, you win, you get
a chance to win a championship, That is his track record.
It makes me laugh. You've been around Justin for so long.
I go and I go away and play golf with
Justin every summer. And you know, he's the kind is
most kind of under unassuming killers. That's a really good
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way to put it. He's an unassuming killer. He'll go
out and rip your heart out with the way he
can throw the football and be a leader. But did
you see the video of when when coach Harba did
the pregame thing with the quarterbacks he likes to do
where he hits him on the shoulders and they touched
you like Justin didn't know what was coming like, and
he's trying to like be.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
In it too, but it looks so awkward.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
What's the strangest kind of pregame thing that coaches kind
of come over and batted you up and get you
ready physically? What is he What has he done to
get you fired up?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Well, yeah, the same thing. Like I've been a time
where he just came and hit me on the bat.
Let's go out, need your best, let's go, let's go.
So he always just trying to get us ready to go. Man,
Especially that pregame speech in the locker room. It's no,
it's no speeches like Hallball speeches. Man, he always got
one of a confle you.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Uh, you guys get to see the Chiefs again here
soon they're the team at the top. I've never felt
like the Chargers have ever in any way fear the
Chiefs and Narrowhead or whatever. What's it like going up
against Patrick Mahomes as an All Pro safety? And you know,
how important is it for your team? I think entering
the playoffs to to defeat a very good AFC team,
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the Ravens had a chance a week could go with
you guys, When you get a chance to the Chiefs
and the teams that you're probably gonna meet in the
playoffs down the stretch, how important is it you guys
to to show up and play well.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
First of all, there's always a sighting to go against
the Chiefs. I feel like the games come down to
the end every time, And like you said, we have
to go in on the road and be able to
beat those type of teams because if you want to
go where we want to go in the playoffs far,
those are the type of teams you have to beat.
And I trust every man in this locker room, from offense,
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defense to special teams, and I know we're preparing that way,
and I can't wait till the game Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know, you get to play a really cool position
because you go up against some of the greatest players
at the receiver position, in the tight end position, catch
us the running backs out of the backfield. But is
there a get you out of this with with this
question here? Is there an underrated player that that people
don't talk about that maybe like you know, when you
go into a game against someone like that or maybe
even somebody on your team when you're going up against
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him in practice, that that that it's gonna give you fits.
He's going to be a player that that not everybody's
talking about Anna Travis Kelsey, but this guy and and uh,
I think that's a that's a pretty cool thing when
when you know who you're going up against every single week.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I have to say probably Latin mccunkie. Uh, just going
against him from training camp. I feel like his track
where I could speaking for himself, this season lead all
rookies in receiving yards. So man, I feel like he's
he's doing a great job getting open man and becoming
that receiver one.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
And then Dyane.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Henley on defense, Uh, out there him in big pooning
in the middle. So just those three guys, I feel
like a lot of shout outs to those boys. They've
been making a lot of plays just under the radar.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Dayon Hendley, everybody, I don't know if you know this
or not, but he's a Washington State Cougar. Make sure you,
uh you give him a shout out for me today.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
When you see him.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
All right, yes, sir, all right, Derwin James, everybody, thanks
for joining us, buddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Thank you, man.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
That's awesome. I love talking to players current former.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I mean, that's just that dude is a stud. You
talk about a dog every single week. Jimbo Fisher used
to talk about. I spent like five seasons with with
Jimbo and his staff at at Florida State and then
at Texas A and M. I mean, he talked about
how smart, how intuitive, and just how good he is.
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And I really thought with Jesse Minter this year the
things they could do with him hybrid wise, and it
really hasn't been overly much, but he's ended up in
some different places on the defensive side of the football
and making plays that that I think have been incredibly inventive.
He just looks like he's having a lot of fun.
And you know what, Jim Harbaugh gets that out of.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
You seen the dude that wants to win right there?
You know you can see it's just like all written
all over him, that dude wants to win. I wonder
what the last four years have been like for him?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Five years been incredible.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Fourth head coach, right, Anthony Lynn and interim and Brandon
Staley and now Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wonder do you think that there's
if Anthony Lynn was still the head coach, would they
be successful by now?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
In that?
Speaker 6 (11:17):
What I mean is the consistency of message and sort
of brand and pushing in one direction and this is
what we're gonna do. And maybe it takes a year
or two to get it right, but then eventually you
start getting the concepts and they start working or.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
What do you speak of?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I am a Steelers fan, Yeah right, yeah, yeah, you know,
I have no idea. We've had three head coaches in
one hundred and eighty years or whatever it is, you know, right, sure, yes,
I do. I do think that the idea of just
giving up. You know what's really impressive about Detroit. Is
that they didn't do that with Dan Campbell when things
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were going bad. Remember before they went on that crazy
winning streak, like three or four games into last year,
like it was chopping block time. People were saying, no,
you know he wasn't you know he was. He was
actually being asked to leave Applebee's And now he's doing commercials,
you know in Applebee's.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
You know, it's the.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Ability to show patience is a huge deal. You wouldn't
have Jim Harbaugh as the head coach right now. That's
that's you know, that's the way people will counter you
and go, we got the guy, We got the guy now.
But I'm with you, there's some the consensity. What if
you kept Clay Hilton at USC. You know, the Lincoln
Riley thing hasn't worked. Clay Heilton has a better record
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at USC than Lincoln Riley has. Times change, cultures have changed, nil,
things have changed. All those things are different in terms
of what it looks like. But I am more of
the consistency over chaos. But the NFL, as you guys
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pointed out in the random questions, is about turnover. I
mean the turnover ratio for coaches, players, everything, and the
college model was starting to look the same.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Marvin.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Have you ever seen a head coach or a player
come into building and the building automatically changes, or have
you heard of any different scenarios like that where as
soon as this coach came in or this quarterback came in,
the building was completely different.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, you've seen that.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You've seen that in many different scenarios. You know when
I was first there, when when John Gruden walked in
in Tampa, I mean you just you just what was
the difference maker in Tampa that year was an offense?
Like the defense was great, you know, Mike Kiffen was
you know, you're Derek Brooks and you had Booger and
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you had Simeon Rice and Rondez and you had Dexter
and not all those guys in the back end, and
I mean, you were gonna You're gonna shut people down defensively.
What you needed to be able to do was score
a few more points, and uh and John got that.
And when they walked in, I think, you know, everybody
looked around and said, oh yeah, with what Tony Dungee
had left behind and put together, this is a super
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Bowl winning team.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And it was Marvin.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Yeah, I think the Buccaneers lost the NFC Championship game
like eleven to five or it was like it was
a craze to Kurt Owner and yeah, yeah, it was
like a Ricky prol like crazy, like the ball just
dropped right in his chest.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
It was.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
They were so in need for an injection of offensive
power and they got it. They got the best thing
in the world. They went up against the Raiders, which
John knew like the back of the hand, on the
only Super Bowl situation where there wasn't a bye week
between because of nine to eleven that year, I believe.
I think that was the reason why, because they had
taken up a week because of the tragedy and there
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was no bye week in between the AFC NFC Championships
and the Super Bowl that year. And what a year
to have it where you have a former coach who
knew all the signals and all the things that that
that the Oakland Raiders were doing. I mean rich Gannon
went out there and was playing against twenty two people
essentially in that game.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
It was crazy. It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So yeah, there's those times like that at all times,
Like when remember talking to some guys when when Russell
walked in in Pittsburgh. I some of my friends on
the Steelers team, they whatever the media has or talks
about outside of Russell Wilson or what went down in
Denver those last two years. He's also a guy that
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went to two Super Bowls, right, came from nowhere to Wisconsin,
won the job, become this you know, you know, multi
millionaire businessman and star quarterback. He walks into the room
in Pittsburgh. You know, people talk about justin fields, should
have been the starter, should have kept on starting, and
everything like that. I guarantee you right now, ever been
in that locker room goes, we want competent quarterback play.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Russell's gonna give us to us.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
We had the best chance to win a championship. And
they were, you know, they they saw him and saw
an opportunity and they were they were very, very attracted
to that. And that happens all the time. And when
Jim Harbaugh walks into it, same darn thing, same darn thing, all.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Right, college football? Is it the minor league? Is it special?
Is it better? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Somebody needs to teach me and tell me. Maybe Andy
Staples can do that next, right, here on the Dan
Patrick Show.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
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Ryan Lafyer filling in for the main man Dan Patrick.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Our next guest is gonna be uh college football analyst.
He covers college football for on three Sports as well.
Good friend of mine. I haven't talked to him. I
haven't spoken to him many years, it feels like. But
Andy Staples joins the show. Andy, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Buddy?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Ryan?
Speaker 8 (16:47):
You never right? He never called him. Yeah, we do
text occasionally, though we do check.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Well.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You usually pointed out to everybody that why are we
listening to Will Ferrell call a football game tonight?
Speaker 8 (16:57):
It happens to me sometimes, Yeah, we're a I am
in one of those multi box situations.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
And of course, unless it's like the beginning of a quarter,
they're not showing your faces and at first I'll be like, wait, wait,
what is where ferrorth searching? Oh wait, that's Ryan, that's right.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Well, milk was a bad choice.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
You were at the Texas TEXTA, A and M game.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I was talking to the guys a little bit early
Andy about what college football is and for me, and
this can be, of course a projectionist point of mine,
since I called only really the PAC twelve games this
year for the cw SO a conference that was kind
of left behind. I see it a little bit as
the minor leagues. I didn't follow it that much. Guys
are getting paid. I'd rather see if they're going to
get paid. I'd rather see him be playing for the
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Lions or something like that. But yet there was one
hundred and whatever twenty thousand people in College Station last
week to watch Texas Texas and renew that that rivalry.
Where do you see the game of college football? What
was it like being there and then watching the twelve
team playoff kind of you know, start to spin this
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new version of college football in our eyes.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
It's really interesting how it changed our relationship with games
in November. I mean, we told the people who wanted
to stick to four and the people who wanted to
stick to the BCS that this would make the November
games more meaningful for more teams, and they didn't believe us. Well,
they believe us now, Like it really changed the dynamics
of everything because we would not have been watching Miami
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Syracuse with nearly as much interest as we were in
the game. I was at SO Texas and Texas A and
m we're playing for a spot in the SEC Championship game.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
I mean you got all the trappings of that rivalry,
the fact that they hadn't played since twenty eleven, and
then you add some stakes on top of that. It
was a beautiful thing, not a beautiful game. Not a
beautiful game. Both defenses much better than most, but then
both offenses. But we did get to see Arch Manning
as like the designated running quarterback for Texas, which I
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did not have our Manning as the two thousand and
six Tim Tebow on my big o'card for the year.
But I kind of love it.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
So don't forget he's Cooper's kid. He's not Peyton or
Eli's kid. R Kuber was a receiver, was a wide receivers.
He's got some ability on that. Andy Staples here joining
us here on the Dan Patrick Show. The Biggest Gripe?
What team may have the biggest gripe? So far of
being on the outside looking in and not knowing what
this weekend is going to bridget. But what we found
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out here on Tuesday night, I.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
Think Ole Miss, Miami, and South Carolina all have the
same gripe because they're not really any different from Alabama.
Alabama is the one they picked to be in that
last spot. Now, Alabama might not get that last spot.
If Clemson were to beat SMU in the ACC Championship game,
they might leave Alabama there. They might only drop SMUT
there and drop Alabama out. So we don't exactly know
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how that's going to play out. And that has been
the argument raging in college football land all week is,
you know, how dare they choose Alabama? This is so stupid.
It's always Alabama. I don't think it's always Alabama. I
think it's Alabama in this case. Is Alabama super deserving? No, No,
three loss team is super deserving. But they all have
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flaws and there's four that are kind of the same,
and they got to pick one, and so that's the
one they're picking.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It seems like, yeah, is there a team that most
likely this weekend? I mean, because we've had a conversation
on the show today about you know, whether or not
these games should even be played. Why, what's the purpose
of playing these games? You know you have I would
argue that Texas is the SEC champion. They have one
loss this season in the SEC that makes them the es.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
They lost to the team that they're going to play
it exactly, so exactly that's a big part of that.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Is there a team that you see in the title
games tomorrow or on Friday and Saturday, that you see
likely to be knocked out if we're to get that loss.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
So Boise State will be knocked out if they lose
to un I'll be on Friday night. I mean, that's
that's pretty much a predetermined conclusion. Whether it puts UNLV
in or no is another question. It might But then
if Army beats Tulane, then there's a probably probably a
conversation between you and LV and Army. But this SMU
part is really interesting. We had rhtt Lashley, the head
coach from SMU, on my show today and he said, look,
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if we all got COVID and didn't play this game,
we'd be in the playoff. Yet you're saying if we
lose to Clemson we might be out. How is that right?
And my co host Ry Wasserman asked him, Hey, if
that happens, you would if you did lose and got
knocked out, do you think it would change the way
coaches approached these championship games, and rhet lastly's like, yeah,
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I think coaches would do some crazy things at that point,
because if you're in the playoff and you've earned the
right to play an extra game, the thinking is it
shouldn't punish you. Yeah, but yeah, if I were a
coach and I saw that happen to somebody else, it
would make me rethink wanting to play in that game.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I mean, there's a real argument to be had that,
you know, Ohio State losing may have had a little
bit of a benefit because now, listen, I'd take the
buye for me is a big deal.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
The bye is a big deal for me? Is a yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (22:05):
That well, Also, the five seed is a big deal
if you lost the Big ten championship game, if you're
Ohio State. Yeah, because the five seed plays the twelve,
which may not necessarily be the number twelve team that
may be a conference champion. They got raised up to twelve.
So not only that, who does the five play in
the second round, and it's try to like the play
the four, the four which is probably not actually number four.
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It's some conference champ that got raised. So could be
I would argue, yeah, I would argue that that five
seed is probably has an especially if you didn't play
in a conference championship game, has a nicer path than
the one seed, which gets a bye. But that eight
nine winner is gonna be somebody nasty.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It could be.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
It could be one of those teams that we talked about.
It could be a Georgia, It could be an Old Miss,
could be an Alabama team that is a brutal beat
physical in nature and everything like that. So yeah, first
year of playing out, there's gonna be a ton of
discussion around what this looks like and where you go
with it and.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Everything like that.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
National Signing Day we're talking with Andy Staples here. National
Signing Day was yesterday, and does it what does it
mean now with the portal opening, what does it mean
to and is it different for certain teams like if
you are at the very top of the heap or
if you're somewhere at bottom where you're gonna have to
develop and maybe know you're developing for let's say Alabama
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in a couple of years.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
You know, you're treating it if you're Alabama, Georgia, Ohio
State the same way you always did. You go get
the best high school players. You try to make that
the foundation of your program, especially the big guys like
you want to. You know, offensive defensive linemen for the
most part, are not going to come in ready to play,
so you try to stockpile them as best you can.
That's not going to be easy because of the transfer portal.
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Kids are smart, you know, they see how this works.
And I think what has happened is those teams can't
stockpile the way they used to. Like Alabama's backups used
to be better than probably everybody ranked below number five,
and that's just not the case anymore. Those guys go,
I can just play somewhere else. I can become a
first rounder at Arkansas. I can become a first rounder
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at Ole Miss. So why am I? Why am I
sitting here? And so it's made the market a lot
more efficient. So it's really more where guys are going
to start their careers, whether they finish them there is
another story, And you know a lot of ways it's
it's it's more fair to me because I'm so used
to covering the coaching carousel, so I'm used to signing
day happens and then oh we forgot were firing the
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wide receivers coach. I'm sorry you wanted to play for him. Oh,
don't worry about that, but you're stuck here. Well you're
not stuck there anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, you don't have to be hostage to some whims
by adults that have no real interest in necessarily what
you're doing. Uh, the the coaching carousel.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
You spoke of what maybe jobs.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Are are on the line this weekend, What jobs are
are are maybe opening that that maybe people may think
are are ones that could be open here soon.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
This is a weird year, Ryan, because normally there's a
lot more jobs open, and I think a lot of
the Power Conference schools have been afraid to fire their
coaches because you've got revenue sharing with the players coming
next year, so that you're gonna have to devote millions
of dollars to that. You don't want to pay these buys.
Some of the buyots have gotten so ridiculous that they're
they're almost prohibitive, like Kentucky and Mark Stoops don't seem
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to be on the best terms right now, but they
would owe him forty four million dollars within sixty days. Like,
he ain't going anywhere if he doesn't want to go somewhere,
right So, like the best jobs open right now are
North Carolina, Perdue, UCF in West Virginia, and they're still
looking for coaches. I think, you know some of those
some of those schools are considering coaches who are coaching
in championship games this weekend. So probably get a little
(25:46):
movement on that after the weekend. But you know, I
think everybody's looking at Columbus right now. Obviously, Ryan Day's
in the playoff. He's not going anywhere. I don't think
Ohio State is firing Ryan Day. But Ryan Day has
a Michigan problem, and he has to decide what to
do going forward once this season ends. About that Michigan problem,
I'm guessing that he just wants to try to fix it,
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but you got to be careful because he's varying very
dangerously into John Cooper territory right now.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It's so strange, it's so strange how that game transpired
on Saturday. I mean, I watched it in a I
covered I called the Oregon Michigan game earlier in the year,
and yeah, and they played pretty good at times, but
it didn't matter.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
O High State.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I watched the High State Oregon game as well, and
that's a completely different football team in terms of mindset
and coaching.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
What was shocking to me is Ohio State tried to
meet Michigan on its own terms. Like why meet Michigan
on Michigan's terms? Dictate the terms? Like you have Jeremiah Smith,
who is the best wide receiver in the country. He
might be well he's not yet, but in a few
years he will be the best wide receiver in the world. Like,
within probably four years year two in the NFL, he
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will be the best wide receiver in the world. They
targeted him twice. Yeah, Like, do the things that you're
good at. Don't try to beat Michigan in its own game.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
It just it's dumbfounding to me. I'd be remiss if
having you on you and I talking about our friend
Trevor Moat. Oh, yeah, you wrote or co wrote the
book with him. It takes what it takes and and
and you know how important Trevor was to me. But
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but I think you would have a really unique voice
in the understanding of what transpired over the last couple
of years with Denver and Russell Wilson because you were intrinsically,
uh taught this this neutral thinking because you had to
write about it, and so the understanding of that, and
I've tried to make it across that that Russell may
be the best of anybody who's ever done the neutral
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thinking aspect of things of what him and Trevor tried
to Russell.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
So Trevor was Russell's mental coach. Yes, cognitive but Russell
Russell kind of designed a lot of this and gave
a name to it, and and Trevor and I wrote
it takes what it takes. And then as as Trevor
was fighting cancer, we wrote getting to Neutral, which we
kind of wove in the pandemic and like how because
we saw a lot of people in the real world
trying to have to wrestle with the stuff that that
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Trevor had to deal with with athletes at a different level.
And it was wild watching Russell in Denver because it
was like, if I think, if Trevor we're able to
talk to him and able to They were able to
talk about thinking neutrally and how to deal with these situations.
I think it would have gone better. But I do
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feel like when I hear uss talk when I see
him playing in Pittsburgh, that he's getting back to.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
That now well, and he tried trying to watch.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, he tried to compartmentalize, and I think a lot
of times when you are in that neutral thinking, because
this is also the logic that I used with the
way Trevor worked with me. You know, once I walked
out of prison ten years ago, and I would be
nowhere I am today if it weren't for him and
what he did for me. But you know, Russell can
come off like a simulation sometimes and it's just because
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it's this. It's it's this maintaining a certain thing, and
he's the best that that's done it. And I just
thought that would you know, I'm usually the one talking
about it when I come on and talk about Russell,
and you wrote the book with Trevor and you were
perfectly situated to talk about it.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
I am so glad you brought that up, because it's
it's one of those things and I was going back
through it takes what it takes in getting in a
neutral the other day because I think about Trevor a lot,
and that stuff has helped me so much in my
own life, just raising kids, you know, doing doing the
things you have to do to live life. And for
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those who don't know, neutral thinking is a basically, you know,
the power of positive thinking, very popular book, a motivational speaker.
It's not positive. We just don't allow negative thoughts ever
to enter our mind. It's basically you don't allow negative thoughts.
You don't verbalize negative thoughts. You just say, hey, here's
what I know, here's what I can.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Do, this is what I can You'd be yeah, you'd be.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Shocked how much easier it makes life if that's how
you're thinking.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I mean, it's it changed my life, bro. I mean,
you've gotten to know me. You know, you met me
eight years ago. Nine years ago we covered the Clemson
Alabama game together down in uh in uh Santa Clara.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I just I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I don't let anything negative creep into my mind. And
it's hard, you know, especially with with the way the
way the world works, and they want to uh talk
to you about your life, you know, and so and
for Russell to do that, and I think that that
got lost a little bit in Denver, and I think
we're just giving it given some context. You know, everybody
in Pittsburgh has seen and and what it's come from.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
But I just thought I would would put that out.
It's fun to watch like that. Yeah, that whole situation
has been fascinating. The justin feels to Russ and all
look at that. So, Russ, that's like a Jack Lambert, Russell,
Wilson Dursey.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
So Russ sent me uh uh away and home Jersey
this year and I couldn't. I couldn't breakhim out until
he got healthy. And I was just like, because I
think I might have been the only one that actually
said that this is a super Bowl team with a
confident quarterback at play.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
So we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Let's get George Picktens out of control first.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
But well, you know, George Pickens is the talent of
Antonio Brown in the eyes of Mike Tomlin. And if
I've talked to him before, and it's like, you know,
the talent when it becomes an issue where it got
to with Antonio Brown and I had to ship him
out that's that's when it until that time, the talent
is so overwhelming for everybody.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
That's that's why they were putting up with it.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
And Mike Tom is the one guy you trust to
get that out of it.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And I trust it, and I trust it and because
I know that he knows when it's over, he'll pull
the pluck and he has and that's why he's still
the coach and why everybody trusts.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Him and stuff like that. So I could talk to
you all day, man. I miss you, brother. It's good
to see you. Thanks for hopping on with us today.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
Thank you, Ryan, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yep, good to see you. Andy Staples.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Everybody talking a little college football. I mean he he
makes some good points around the idea of, you know,
the college conference games this weekend. We've talked about it
earlier Seton. I mean, really, what's the point in SMU
playing this game? They could move up a couple spots,
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maybe a spot for them they're in right now.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Set How long do you think we last in this
current iteration of college football exactly the way it's set
up this year? How long do you think this lasts
this year?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Next year?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
And then what do you think the changes. You go
to fourteen teams, No.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You go to the National Collegiate Football League.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Do you think that quick?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yep, because that's when the media rights deal is up
with the college football Playoff.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
It's the only thing that is making more and more sense.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
You put it aside and you make it what it is,
the National Collegiate Football League, eighteen to twenty two teams
in each conference, NFL model, you go, you have a
czar at the top commissioner. I would recommend Nick Saban,
you regulatory around transfers and portal and anil. That's that's
a separate entity away. It's hard to predict because they're
(33:10):
still on college campuses. That's what's so foreign to me
with this, guys, is the fact that they're still on
college campuses. Like these are student athletes still, like they
have to they have to qualify to get into school,
but they're the professionals on the football part of the campus.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
It's just it's just so odd.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And and I'm not poo pooing any of it, Like
I want every player for their worth to be paid,
their worth for name, image and likeness, for what they
bring to the university and everything that I want that.
So it's just it's just a different model. And so yeah,
I anticipate that what's going to really be beneficial. And
you know, this is maybe just tooting in the PAC
(33:48):
twelve horn here and Teresa Gould the commissioner, something that
her two predecessors could never have done and seen forward
thinking wise, they kept the PAC twelve brand. Guess what
teams are going to be coming back because they are
not going to be in the nowtional Collegiate Football League
because they can't afford to be.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
So teams that were.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
In the PAC twelve they're gonna be coming back. And
guess who's gonna hold the cards on whether you get
back into the PAC twelve conference? Washington State, Oregon State
and in Teresa goul So there you have it, Andy Staples,
that was great. We're gonna come back for our last
segment here on The Dan Patrick Show. We'll break down
(34:24):
everything leading into the Packers and Lions game tonight, as
well as recap all that went down today right here
on The Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Welcome back everybody to the Dan Patrick Show. Ryan Leaf
here filling in for Dan. Last segment of the show, Boy,
this was my flew Bye boys, flu bye. What a
great show. Andy Staples just joined us. Derwin James from
the Los Angeles Chargers, Lomas Brown all Pro from the
Detroit Lions for that big Detroit Lions Green Bay Packers
(35:04):
matchup tonight football. Football football. That's all we had today.
It's a lot of fun, talked a lot about it. Ah,
breaking news, breaking news, everybody. Brett Vegan, Brent Vegan, head
football coach from Montana State University, podcast named Eddie Robinson
Coach of the Year. Congratulations mister Vegan as the head
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football coach for Montana State. Of course you are, you
know of godly form? Makes sense, makes sense everybody. All right,
So we have a few minutes left in the show.
Anybody who's watched the Dan Patrick Show knows that I've
been as staple for many different reasons.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Right, there was a span where it.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Was much ado about nothing to you know, the trials
and tribulations that I went through. But ten years ago,
it was about a year out we were at the
San Francisco super Bowl. Was at Super Bowl fifth I
believe it was my now wife and I drove up
(36:05):
from Los Angeles to go to the nflpa's Player Care
Foundation medical evaluations. They offered free medical evaluations to former players,
most of which guys may have not had physicals for years.
And me being a prison and doing what I did
to my body for as long as I did, I
had no idea what I was like. I didn't know
(36:28):
where I needed to go to get healthy, and so
I went in to do that. That's why I went
to that Super Bowl. I went up there because they
offered those at those sites for those big events. As
I was in the hotel, it was the hotel that
we were doing the checkups in with the doctors, I
ran across Paul Pabst.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
In the hallway.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Now listen, Paul and I and as well as Seaton
and Andrew Perlof and Fritzy We've known each other for years,
pre prison, post prison everything, and PAULI just simply said, hey,
you know, you know told in your hands if you
want to come on talk to about where you're at.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
And I was just I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I talked to the people that I cared about, the
mentors and things like that, and they just they said
something that spoke volumes to me, and I didn't understand
it at the time. Really said, you are a lighthouse
and you don't see lighthouses running around the harbor looking
for boats. And I didn't understand what that meant. And
then you understand, especially living in the Northeast now, lighthouses
(37:25):
are rooted in the rocks, in the foundation, Okay, and
you just you shine a light and you provide a
safe harbor for somebody if they may need it. And
that's all this was. It's a little snippet, it's a minute,
but here's from Super Bowl fifty in San Francisco down
in the marina with Dan and the dan Nants and
myself and my first public statements since walking out of
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a prison cell.
Speaker 9 (37:47):
It's great to see you. You look great, you brought
your girlfriend. Looks like you got life in order here, right?
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah? Today I do.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (37:57):
If you were going to recap the last four years
for somebody who had no idea about Ryan leave, how
would you recap four years?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Interesting, I have a lot of life experience. Even more
added on to all this I think that four years
ago I got sick, and when I got sick, I
got offered pain medication from the doctor, and I never
told them that I had a previous problem. I just
had to do radiation for a brain tumor, and I
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just assumed that, you know what, everybody else gets to
do this when they're feeling this, but I can't. I
can never take one. And they gave me those pills
December one, twenty twelve, and by March thirtieth, two thousand
or December one, twenty elevel, by March thirtieth, twenty twelve,
I was in a jail cell. So it took four
months for everything to go away.
Speaker 8 (38:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I look different, I even sound a little different. But
it was simply just telling my story, and I think
that was the foundation of what my mentors were talking
to me about. I had no idea that that day
would would spin what it looks like now. Right there's
a lot of water under the bridge in terms of
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like because I didn't want to be in the public
eye anymore. I thought I could go and be of
service to other people and then just kind of disappear.
But the Dan Patrick Show exists. My name doesn't disappear,
all right. The draft happens every year, especially when they
take six first round draft picks in the same season.
You know, that's that's what happens. So I had to
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figure out a way to take that power back. One
was meeting Trevor Moad and making sure that I didn't
allow negative thoughts into my brain anymore, and that shifted
and changed. Marvin didn't didn't know me. Then he's come
on board after Andrew left, but Fritzi and.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Seaton have and.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I mean from you guys knew me previously to that
moment to where we are now and just your thoughts
about this incredibly grateful life that I get to get
to offer seating.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting that clip. You can hear uh,
I mean you can see obviously a physical change. You
could see too.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
You're uncomfortable and you can hear that You're not confident yet.
You know that's the big difference. You're You're infinitely more
confident sitting here today than you were. That guy right there,
that guy is like a baby, you know, the guy
that was just talking. He's like a pump.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
That that guy.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
That guy, that guy hasn't been in the public eye,
you know, for I don't know how long in that picture.
This is, this will, this will, this will, this will
be crazy. But I'm more confident now as a human
being with all the baggage that exists, and I ever
was in as an NFL quarterback. So thank you to
the listener, thank you to Dan Patrick, Thank you to
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you guys for carrying me and always being there for me.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Dad, We'll be back tomorrow. Oh love you all.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Thanks
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back everybody to the Dan
Patrick Show.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Blasted. Yeah, you know, this is a good question. You know,
how many people out there do you think would love to
pepper spray me? That might be a good one. I mean,
not as many as before, but I bet you there's
a there's a I bet you there's a line of
folks that probably wanted to pepper spray me if they
got a chance. Yes again, I'm Ryan Lee filling in
(00:30):
for Dan Patrick today. Uh, Derwin James is gonna join
us here in about four minutes to talk about the
Chargers and the new season under Jim Harbaugh as his
head coach. This is I think Seaton and I were talking.
I think we got him already, so we're gonna go.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
To him right now.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Derwin James all pro safety for my Los Angeles Chargers,
joins us.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I was just telling everybody Derwin about I lived in
LA for the last years. Man, I know what traffic,
traffic's like. You know, you get competit.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
How you doing this morning?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I'm doing good man. How y'all doing?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We're doing well, We're doing well, it's been a lot
of fun to watch you guys this year, Jesse Mentor.
You know, it's just kind of untapped a little bit
of it looks like you guys are having just so
much fun flying around young guys, guys that that that
people really don't know. And then you with out there
is kind of the stalwart on the back end. Just
talk about how much fun it's been this year to
(01:27):
play under this new defensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Man I can't stop smiling every day I come into
the building. It's just deciding to come to work with
these man not only did the coaches but the players.
It's just ever since Opa, we've been just working on
but off just to go out there and compete, and
we finally found a few the results that we've been
putting in and we just want to keep going hard.
And coach Mentor, man I can't say nothing but great
things about him. He's a man, one of a kind.
(01:52):
Man I haven't been around a coach like him and
coach Harball.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So you you you spoke incredibly eyely a Jimbo Fisher
you're coaching college. I spent like five seasons with him
every fall football genius. I mean when you when you
find guys that can flip that switch in you. Jim
Harbaugh shows up, there's a different mentality as a former player,
Jesse Mentor, you see guys acting different. I mean, I'm
(02:17):
watching justin this year. There's like a little swagger with him.
He's throwing a touchdown, he's doing some things. I mean,
what's the locker It just it's allowed the locker room
to be a little freer, it feels, and it comes across.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Yes, sir, everybody's playing free, nobody's playing tight, and we
just create that family environment. Coach Harball, he's you got
the families that practice on Friday Saturdays. It's just creating
the family environment that I've never been around in the
NFL in my seven years. So man, it's just been
a lot of fun. And when you can make it
about family, man, you just want to go that much
harder for that person. And Uh, offense get along with offense.
(02:52):
Defense get along, and it's just the whole team coming together.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's it's it's incredibly different when you walk into an
atmosphere like that. I remember that with when I was
in Tampa with Tony Dungee, Like you just go from
a coaching staff that's that's so welcoming in terms of
what makes things easy, and you wonder why that hasn't
always been the case, because you want your guys to
be the most you know, relaxed going into football games.
Talk to me about the Atlanta game. I mean, these
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games this year kind of fit the Harbaugh mold, right.
It's it's offense trying to run the football, hold people back.
But defense really had to close out that game. Talk
about that kind of final play. They went empty. They
brought Drake London over the cross in the middle, he
kind of stumbles and you just you just knew they
had to get to a point. You stepped right in
front of an end of the game with that interception.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
First of all, I feel like coach did a great
job all day calling great plays. I feel like we
was in position to make all the plays we needed
to make. And like you said, I just seen seeing
Drake London in this plot and as soon as I
see them released the ball, just try to make a
play on it for my team. And like I said,
coach made a great call. And all year long, keys
just making great calls, and as a defense, I feel
(03:58):
like we just come in that much closer to the world
we want to beat.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, you get the goes up front, getting after the quarterback,
Bosa that that crew. It's it's been fun to watch
as a former Charger to see that defense kind of
going back into Rodney Harrison Junior sayout days, that's that's
some fun era of football. And we watched the Alscheizier
uh al Shire hit on on Trevor Lawrence. As a defender,
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they've made it incredibly difficult on you guys in terms
of what the heck is the quarterback going to do
as you're trying to make a little move to get
a few more yards, to pick up a first down,
to extend a drive, to end a game. You got
suspended earlier, and Coach Harbaugh was incredibly disappointed, as was
I think a lot of people that watch football, realistic football,
how tough is it to make decisions in the moment
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they'll split seconds to make those tackles and do the
right thing. In the eyes of Park Avenue in New York.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
City, it's extremely hard.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Like you say, you're playing a game at a fast speed,
a fast tempo, and as a defender, you're going to
just try to get the guy down, and sometimes the
angle can change. The guy can see you duck sometimes and.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
It's just like we got to adjust.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Like I said, they want to clean up the game, man,
And like I said, I'm all for it, man, and
I'm trying to find new ways to get better at myself.
I'm still working at it, and I just love to
play man honestly.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Man.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Like I say, it's definitely hard on the defenders. I
feel like, especially because you don't know if he's gonna fly.
You don't want to give up the first down as
a defender. So it's just tough.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, they put you in a tough spot.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
They put you in an absolutely crazy tough spot in
terms of what you have to do. Speaking of coach Harbaugh,
so I don't know if you know this. So coach
Arbaugh was my backup in San Diego. He taught me
that when he taught me how to be a professional,
you know, it was that quarterback room was crazy. If
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he could have been a player, coach, I bet you
we win a ton more games if he had been
able to be the coach. What's it been like to
have him again? And does he how active is he?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Like?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Is he out there slinging the ball around. Is he
catching the ball? I mean, how like how physical is
he with you guys in practice? Seems like a lot
of fun and it looks like he's doing it.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I feel like coach Harball is all in man, honestly. Man.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Ever since ot As he's been pulling sleds man, honestly
since he's been working out every fourth quarter drill, no
lie like he's he's over there doing manuals with us. Man,
he's really and he has his cleek on his cleek
game is crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
He got all the different Jordan's. Man, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So man, his his Jordan game from his time in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
That's what I said.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Yeah, yeah, he have his cleat song man and he
all in it man. Like you say, here a player
coach manning every day. I've scribed to be like, I'm
like a leader man. When it comes to that leader
ability to affect the whole room and the whole organization,
I feel like he's one of a con when it
comes to that.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
His track record, he goes places, you win, you get
a chance to win a championship, That is his track record.
It makes me laugh. You've been around Justin for so long.
I go and I go away and play golf with
Justin every summer. And you know, he's the kind is
most kind of under unassuming killers. That's a really good
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way to put it. He's an unassuming killer. He'll go
out and rip your heart out with the way he
can throw the football and be a leader. But did
you see the video of when when coach Harba did
the pregame thing with the quarterbacks he likes to do
where he hits him on the shoulders and they touched
you like Justin didn't know what was coming like, and
he's trying to like be.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
In it too, but it looks so awkward.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
What's the strangest kind of pregame thing that coaches kind
of come over and batted you up and get you
ready physically? What is he What has he done to
get you fired up?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Well, yeah, the same thing. Like I've been a time
where he just came and hit me on the bat.
Let's go out, need your best, let's go, let's go.
So he always just trying to get us ready to go. Man,
Especially that pregame speech in the locker room. It's no,
it's no speeches like Hallball speeches. Man, he always got
one of a confle you.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Uh, you guys get to see the Chiefs again here
soon they're the team at the top. I've never felt
like the Chargers have ever in any way fear the
Chiefs and Narrowhead or whatever. What's it like going up
against Patrick Mahomes as an All Pro safety? And you know,
how important is it for your team? I think entering
the playoffs to to defeat a very good AFC team,
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the Ravens had a chance a week could go with
you guys, When you get a chance to the Chiefs
and the teams that you're probably gonna meet in the
playoffs down the stretch, how important is it you guys
to to show up and play well.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
First of all, there's always a sighting to go against
the Chiefs. I feel like the games come down to
the end every time, And like you said, we have
to go in on the road and be able to
beat those type of teams because if you want to
go where we want to go in the playoffs far,
those are the type of teams you have to beat.
And I trust every man in this locker room, from offense,
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defense to special teams, and I know we're preparing that way,
and I can't wait till the game Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know, you get to play a really cool position
because you go up against some of the greatest players
at the receiver position, in the tight end position, catch
us the running backs out of the backfield. But is
there a get you out of this with with this
question here? Is there an underrated player that that people
don't talk about that maybe like you know, when you
go into a game against someone like that or maybe
even somebody on your team when you're going up against
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him in practice, that that that it's gonna give you fits.
He's going to be a player that that not everybody's
talking about Anna Travis Kelsey, but this guy and and uh,
I think that's a that's a pretty cool thing when
when you know who you're going up against every single week.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I have to say probably Latin mccunkie. Uh, just going
against him from training camp. I feel like his track
where I could speaking for himself, this season lead all
rookies in receiving yards. So man, I feel like he's
he's doing a great job getting open man and becoming
that receiver one.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
And then Dyane.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Henley on defense, Uh, out there him in big pooning
in the middle. So just those three guys, I feel
like a lot of shout outs to those boys. They've
been making a lot of plays just under the radar.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Dayon Hendley, everybody, I don't know if you know this
or not, but he's a Washington State Cougar. Make sure you,
uh you give him a shout out for me today.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
When you see him.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
All right, yes, sir, all right, Derwin James, everybody, thanks
for joining us, buddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Thank you, man.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
That's awesome. I love talking to players current former.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I mean, that's just that dude is a stud. You
talk about a dog every single week. Jimbo Fisher used
to talk about. I spent like five seasons with with
Jimbo and his staff at at Florida State and then
at Texas A and M. I mean, he talked about
how smart, how intuitive, and just how good he is.
(10:24):
And I really thought with Jesse Minter this year the
things they could do with him hybrid wise, and it
really hasn't been overly much, but he's ended up in
some different places on the defensive side of the football
and making plays that that I think have been incredibly inventive.
He just looks like he's having a lot of fun.
And you know what, Jim Harbaugh gets that out of.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
You seen the dude that wants to win right there?
You know you can see it's just like all written
all over him, that dude wants to win. I wonder
what the last four years have been like for him?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Five years been incredible.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Fourth head coach, right, Anthony Lynn and interim and Brandon
Staley and now Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wonder do you think that there's
if Anthony Lynn was still the head coach, would they
be successful by now?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
In that?
Speaker 6 (11:17):
What I mean is the consistency of message and sort
of brand and pushing in one direction and this is
what we're gonna do. And maybe it takes a year
or two to get it right, but then eventually you
start getting the concepts and they start working or.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
What do you speak of?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I am a Steelers fan, Yeah right, yeah, yeah, you know,
I have no idea. We've had three head coaches in
one hundred and eighty years or whatever it is, you know, right, sure, yes,
I do. I do think that the idea of just
giving up. You know what's really impressive about Detroit. Is
that they didn't do that with Dan Campbell when things
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were going bad. Remember before they went on that crazy
winning streak, like three or four games into last year,
like it was chopping block time. People were saying, no,
you know he wasn't you know he was. He was
actually being asked to leave Applebee's And now he's doing commercials,
you know in Applebee's.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
You know, it's the.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Ability to show patience is a huge deal. You wouldn't
have Jim Harbaugh as the head coach right now. That's
that's you know, that's the way people will counter you
and go, we got the guy, We got the guy now.
But I'm with you, there's some the consensity. What if
you kept Clay Hilton at USC. You know, the Lincoln
Riley thing hasn't worked. Clay Heilton has a better record
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at USC than Lincoln Riley has. Times change, cultures have changed, nil,
things have changed. All those things are different in terms
of what it looks like. But I am more of
the consistency over chaos. But the NFL, as you guys
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pointed out in the random questions, is about turnover. I
mean the turnover ratio for coaches, players, everything, and the
college model was starting to look the same.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Marvin.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Have you ever seen a head coach or a player
come into building and the building automatically changes, or have
you heard of any different scenarios like that where as
soon as this coach came in or this quarterback came in,
the building was completely different.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, you've seen that.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You've seen that in many different scenarios. You know when
I was first there, when when John Gruden walked in
in Tampa, I mean you just you just what was
the difference maker in Tampa that year was an offense?
Like the defense was great, you know, Mike Kiffen was
you know, you're Derek Brooks and you had Booger and
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you had Simeon Rice and Rondez and you had Dexter
and not all those guys in the back end, and
I mean, you were gonna You're gonna shut people down defensively.
What you needed to be able to do was score
a few more points, and uh and John got that.
And when they walked in, I think, you know, everybody
looked around and said, oh yeah, with what Tony Dungee
had left behind and put together, this is a super
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Bowl winning team.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And it was Marvin.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Yeah, I think the Buccaneers lost the NFC Championship game
like eleven to five or it was like it was
a craze to Kurt Owner and yeah, yeah, it was
like a Ricky prol like crazy, like the ball just
dropped right in his chest.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
It was.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
They were so in need for an injection of offensive
power and they got it. They got the best thing
in the world. They went up against the Raiders, which
John knew like the back of the hand, on the
only Super Bowl situation where there wasn't a bye week
between because of nine to eleven that year, I believe.
I think that was the reason why, because they had
taken up a week because of the tragedy and there
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was no bye week in between the AFC NFC Championships
and the Super Bowl that year. And what a year
to have it where you have a former coach who
knew all the signals and all the things that that
that the Oakland Raiders were doing. I mean rich Gannon
went out there and was playing against twenty two people
essentially in that game.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
It was crazy. It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So yeah, there's those times like that at all times,
Like when remember talking to some guys when when Russell
walked in in Pittsburgh. I some of my friends on
the Steelers team, they whatever the media has or talks
about outside of Russell Wilson or what went down in
Denver those last two years. He's also a guy that
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went to two Super Bowls, right, came from nowhere to Wisconsin,
won the job, become this you know, you know, multi
millionaire businessman and star quarterback. He walks into the room
in Pittsburgh. You know, people talk about justin fields, should
have been the starter, should have kept on starting, and
everything like that. I guarantee you right now, ever been
in that locker room goes, we want competent quarterback play.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Russell's gonna give us to us.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
We had the best chance to win a championship. And
they were, you know, they they saw him and saw
an opportunity and they were they were very, very attracted
to that. And that happens all the time. And when
Jim Harbaugh walks into it, same darn thing, same darn thing, all.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Right, college football? Is it the minor league? Is it special?
Is it better? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Somebody needs to teach me and tell me. Maybe Andy
Staples can do that next, right, here on the Dan
Patrick Show.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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listen live. Welcome back everybody to the Dan Patrick Show.
Ryan Lafyer filling in for the main man Dan Patrick.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Our next guest is gonna be uh college football analyst.
He covers college football for on three Sports as well.
Good friend of mine. I haven't talked to him. I
haven't spoken to him many years, it feels like. But
Andy Staples joins the show. Andy, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Buddy?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Ryan?
Speaker 8 (16:47):
You never right? He never called him. Yeah, we do
text occasionally, though we do check.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Well.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You usually pointed out to everybody that why are we
listening to Will Ferrell call a football game tonight?
Speaker 8 (16:57):
It happens to me sometimes, Yeah, we're a I am
in one of those multi box situations.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
And of course, unless it's like the beginning of a quarter,
they're not showing your faces and at first I'll be like, wait, wait,
what is where ferrorth searching? Oh wait, that's Ryan, that's right.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Well, milk was a bad choice.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
You were at the Texas TEXTA, A and M game.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I was talking to the guys a little bit early
Andy about what college football is and for me, and
this can be, of course a projectionist point of mine,
since I called only really the PAC twelve games this
year for the cw SO a conference that was kind
of left behind. I see it a little bit as
the minor leagues. I didn't follow it that much. Guys
are getting paid. I'd rather see if they're going to
get paid. I'd rather see him be playing for the
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Lions or something like that. But yet there was one
hundred and whatever twenty thousand people in College Station last
week to watch Texas Texas and renew that that rivalry.
Where do you see the game of college football? What
was it like being there and then watching the twelve
team playoff kind of you know, start to spin this
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new version of college football in our eyes.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
It's really interesting how it changed our relationship with games
in November. I mean, we told the people who wanted
to stick to four and the people who wanted to
stick to the BCS that this would make the November
games more meaningful for more teams, and they didn't believe us. Well,
they believe us now, Like it really changed the dynamics
of everything because we would not have been watching Miami
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Syracuse with nearly as much interest as we were in
the game. I was at SO Texas and Texas A and
m we're playing for a spot in the SEC Championship game.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
I mean you got all the trappings of that rivalry,
the fact that they hadn't played since twenty eleven, and
then you add some stakes on top of that. It
was a beautiful thing, not a beautiful game. Not a
beautiful game. Both defenses much better than most, but then
both offenses. But we did get to see Arch Manning
as like the designated running quarterback for Texas, which I
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did not have our Manning as the two thousand and
six Tim Tebow on my big o'card for the year.
But I kind of love it.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
So don't forget he's Cooper's kid. He's not Peyton or
Eli's kid. R Kuber was a receiver, was a wide receivers.
He's got some ability on that. Andy Staples here joining
us here on the Dan Patrick Show. The Biggest Gripe?
What team may have the biggest gripe? So far of
being on the outside looking in and not knowing what
this weekend is going to bridget. But what we found
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out here on Tuesday night, I.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
Think Ole Miss, Miami, and South Carolina all have the
same gripe because they're not really any different from Alabama.
Alabama is the one they picked to be in that
last spot. Now, Alabama might not get that last spot.
If Clemson were to beat SMU in the ACC Championship game,
they might leave Alabama there. They might only drop SMUT
there and drop Alabama out. So we don't exactly know
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how that's going to play out. And that has been
the argument raging in college football land all week is,
you know, how dare they choose Alabama? This is so stupid.
It's always Alabama. I don't think it's always Alabama. I
think it's Alabama in this case. Is Alabama super deserving? No, No,
three loss team is super deserving. But they all have
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flaws and there's four that are kind of the same,
and they got to pick one, and so that's the
one they're picking.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It seems like, yeah, is there a team that most
likely this weekend? I mean, because we've had a conversation
on the show today about you know, whether or not
these games should even be played. Why, what's the purpose
of playing these games? You know you have I would
argue that Texas is the SEC champion. They have one
loss this season in the SEC that makes them the es.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
They lost to the team that they're going to play
it exactly, so exactly that's a big part of that.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Is there a team that you see in the title
games tomorrow or on Friday and Saturday, that you see
likely to be knocked out if we're to get that loss.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
So Boise State will be knocked out if they lose
to un I'll be on Friday night. I mean, that's
that's pretty much a predetermined conclusion. Whether it puts UNLV
in or no is another question. It might But then
if Army beats Tulane, then there's a probably probably a
conversation between you and LV and Army. But this SMU
part is really interesting. We had rhtt Lashley, the head
coach from SMU, on my show today and he said, look,
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if we all got COVID and didn't play this game,
we'd be in the playoff. Yet you're saying if we
lose to Clemson we might be out. How is that right?
And my co host Ry Wasserman asked him, Hey, if
that happens, you would if you did lose and got
knocked out, do you think it would change the way
coaches approached these championship games, and rhet lastly's like, yeah,
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I think coaches would do some crazy things at that point,
because if you're in the playoff and you've earned the
right to play an extra game, the thinking is it
shouldn't punish you. Yeah, but yeah, if I were a
coach and I saw that happen to somebody else, it
would make me rethink wanting to play in that game.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I mean, there's a real argument to be had that,
you know, Ohio State losing may have had a little
bit of a benefit because now, listen, I'd take the
buye for me is a big deal.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
The bye is a big deal for me? Is a yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (22:05):
That well, Also, the five seed is a big deal
if you lost the Big ten championship game, if you're
Ohio State. Yeah, because the five seed plays the twelve,
which may not necessarily be the number twelve team that
may be a conference champion. They got raised up to twelve.
So not only that, who does the five play in
the second round, and it's try to like the play
the four, the four which is probably not actually number four.
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It's some conference champ that got raised. So could be
I would argue, yeah, I would argue that that five
seed is probably has an especially if you didn't play
in a conference championship game, has a nicer path than
the one seed, which gets a bye. But that eight
nine winner is gonna be somebody nasty.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It could be.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
It could be one of those teams that we talked about.
It could be a Georgia, It could be an Old Miss,
could be an Alabama team that is a brutal beat
physical in nature and everything like that. So yeah, first
year of playing out, there's gonna be a ton of
discussion around what this looks like and where you go
with it and.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Everything like that.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
National Signing Day we're talking with Andy Staples here. National
Signing Day was yesterday, and does it what does it
mean now with the portal opening, what does it mean
to and is it different for certain teams like if
you are at the very top of the heap or
if you're somewhere at bottom where you're gonna have to
develop and maybe know you're developing for let's say Alabama
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in a couple of years.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
You know, you're treating it if you're Alabama, Georgia, Ohio
State the same way you always did. You go get
the best high school players. You try to make that
the foundation of your program, especially the big guys like
you want to. You know, offensive defensive linemen for the
most part, are not going to come in ready to play,
so you try to stockpile them as best you can.
That's not going to be easy because of the transfer portal.
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Kids are smart, you know, they see how this works.
And I think what has happened is those teams can't
stockpile the way they used to. Like Alabama's backups used
to be better than probably everybody ranked below number five,
and that's just not the case anymore. Those guys go,
I can just play somewhere else. I can become a
first rounder at Arkansas. I can become a first rounder
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at Ole Miss. So why am I? Why am I
sitting here? And so it's made the market a lot
more efficient. So it's really more where guys are going
to start their careers, whether they finish them there is
another story, And you know a lot of ways it's
it's it's more fair to me because I'm so used
to covering the coaching carousel, so I'm used to signing
day happens and then oh we forgot were firing the
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wide receivers coach. I'm sorry you wanted to play for him. Oh,
don't worry about that, but you're stuck here. Well you're
not stuck there anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, you don't have to be hostage to some whims
by adults that have no real interest in necessarily what
you're doing. Uh, the the coaching carousel.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
You spoke of what maybe jobs.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Are are on the line this weekend, What jobs are
are are maybe opening that that maybe people may think
are are ones that could be open here soon.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
This is a weird year, Ryan, because normally there's a
lot more jobs open, and I think a lot of
the Power Conference schools have been afraid to fire their
coaches because you've got revenue sharing with the players coming
next year, so that you're gonna have to devote millions
of dollars to that. You don't want to pay these buys.
Some of the buyots have gotten so ridiculous that they're
they're almost prohibitive, like Kentucky and Mark Stoops don't seem
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to be on the best terms right now, but they
would owe him forty four million dollars within sixty days. Like,
he ain't going anywhere if he doesn't want to go somewhere,
right So, like the best jobs open right now are
North Carolina, Perdue, UCF in West Virginia, and they're still
looking for coaches. I think, you know some of those
some of those schools are considering coaches who are coaching
in championship games this weekend. So probably get a little
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movement on that after the weekend. But you know, I
think everybody's looking at Columbus right now. Obviously, Ryan Day's
in the playoff. He's not going anywhere. I don't think
Ohio State is firing Ryan Day. But Ryan Day has
a Michigan problem, and he has to decide what to
do going forward once this season ends. About that Michigan problem,
I'm guessing that he just wants to try to fix it,
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but you got to be careful because he's varying very
dangerously into John Cooper territory right now.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It's so strange, it's so strange how that game transpired
on Saturday. I mean, I watched it in a I
covered I called the Oregon Michigan game earlier in the year,
and yeah, and they played pretty good at times, but
it didn't matter.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
O High State.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I watched the High State Oregon game as well, and
that's a completely different football team in terms of mindset
and coaching.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
What was shocking to me is Ohio State tried to
meet Michigan on its own terms. Like why meet Michigan
on Michigan's terms? Dictate the terms? Like you have Jeremiah Smith,
who is the best wide receiver in the country. He
might be well he's not yet, but in a few
years he will be the best wide receiver in the world. Like,
within probably four years year two in the NFL, he
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will be the best wide receiver in the world. They
targeted him twice. Yeah, Like, do the things that you're
good at. Don't try to beat Michigan in its own game.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
It just it's dumbfounding to me. I'd be remiss if
having you on you and I talking about our friend
Trevor Moat. Oh, yeah, you wrote or co wrote the
book with him. It takes what it takes and and
and you know how important Trevor was to me. But
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but I think you would have a really unique voice
in the understanding of what transpired over the last couple
of years with Denver and Russell Wilson because you were intrinsically,
uh taught this this neutral thinking because you had to
write about it, and so the understanding of that, and
I've tried to make it across that that Russell may
be the best of anybody who's ever done the neutral
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thinking aspect of things of what him and Trevor tried
to Russell.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
So Trevor was Russell's mental coach. Yes, cognitive but Russell
Russell kind of designed a lot of this and gave
a name to it, and and Trevor and I wrote
it takes what it takes. And then as as Trevor
was fighting cancer, we wrote getting to Neutral, which we
kind of wove in the pandemic and like how because
we saw a lot of people in the real world
trying to have to wrestle with the stuff that that
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Trevor had to deal with with athletes at a different level.
And it was wild watching Russell in Denver because it
was like, if I think, if Trevor we're able to
talk to him and able to They were able to
talk about thinking neutrally and how to deal with these situations.
I think it would have gone better. But I do
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feel like when I hear uss talk when I see
him playing in Pittsburgh, that he's getting back to.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
That now well, and he tried trying to watch.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, he tried to compartmentalize, and I think a lot
of times when you are in that neutral thinking, because
this is also the logic that I used with the
way Trevor worked with me. You know, once I walked
out of prison ten years ago, and I would be
nowhere I am today if it weren't for him and
what he did for me. But you know, Russell can
come off like a simulation sometimes and it's just because
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it's this. It's it's this maintaining a certain thing, and
he's the best that that's done it. And I just
thought that would you know, I'm usually the one talking
about it when I come on and talk about Russell,
and you wrote the book with Trevor and you were
perfectly situated to talk about it.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
I am so glad you brought that up, because it's
it's one of those things and I was going back
through it takes what it takes in getting in a
neutral the other day because I think about Trevor a lot,
and that stuff has helped me so much in my
own life, just raising kids, you know, doing doing the
things you have to do to live life. And for
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those who don't know, neutral thinking is a basically, you know,
the power of positive thinking, very popular book, a motivational speaker.
It's not positive. We just don't allow negative thoughts ever
to enter our mind. It's basically you don't allow negative thoughts.
You don't verbalize negative thoughts. You just say, hey, here's
what I know, here's what I can.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Do, this is what I can You'd be yeah, you'd be.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Shocked how much easier it makes life if that's how
you're thinking.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I mean, it's it changed my life, bro. I mean,
you've gotten to know me. You know, you met me
eight years ago. Nine years ago we covered the Clemson
Alabama game together down in uh in uh Santa Clara.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I just I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I don't let anything negative creep into my mind. And
it's hard, you know, especially with with the way the
way the world works, and they want to uh talk
to you about your life, you know, and so and
for Russell to do that, and I think that that
got lost a little bit in Denver, and I think
we're just giving it given some context. You know, everybody
in Pittsburgh has seen and and what it's come from.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
But I just thought I would would put that out.
It's fun to watch like that. Yeah, that whole situation
has been fascinating. The justin feels to Russ and all
look at that. So, Russ, that's like a Jack Lambert, Russell,
Wilson Dursey.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
So Russ sent me uh uh away and home Jersey
this year and I couldn't. I couldn't breakhim out until
he got healthy. And I was just like, because I
think I might have been the only one that actually
said that this is a super Bowl team with a
confident quarterback at play.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
So we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Let's get George Picktens out of control first.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
But well, you know, George Pickens is the talent of
Antonio Brown in the eyes of Mike Tomlin. And if
I've talked to him before, and it's like, you know,
the talent when it becomes an issue where it got
to with Antonio Brown and I had to ship him
out that's that's when it until that time, the talent
is so overwhelming for everybody.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
That's that's why they were putting up with it.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
And Mike Tom is the one guy you trust to
get that out of it.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And I trust it, and I trust it and because
I know that he knows when it's over, he'll pull
the pluck and he has and that's why he's still
the coach and why everybody trusts.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Him and stuff like that. So I could talk to
you all day, man. I miss you, brother. It's good
to see you. Thanks for hopping on with us today.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
Thank you, Ryan, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yep, good to see you. Andy Staples.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Everybody talking a little college football. I mean he he
makes some good points around the idea of, you know,
the college conference games this weekend. We've talked about it
earlier Seton. I mean, really, what's the point in SMU
playing this game? They could move up a couple spots,
(32:15):
maybe a spot for them they're in right now.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Set How long do you think we last in this
current iteration of college football exactly the way it's set
up this year? How long do you think this lasts
this year?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Next year?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
And then what do you think the changes. You go
to fourteen teams, No.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You go to the National Collegiate Football League.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Do you think that quick?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yep, because that's when the media rights deal is up
with the college football Playoff.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
It's the only thing that is making more and more sense.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
You put it aside and you make it what it is,
the National Collegiate Football League, eighteen to twenty two teams
in each conference, NFL model, you go, you have a
czar at the top commissioner. I would recommend Nick Saban,
you regulatory around transfers and portal and anil. That's that's
a separate entity away. It's hard to predict because they're
(33:10):
still on college campuses. That's what's so foreign to me
with this, guys, is the fact that they're still on
college campuses. Like these are student athletes still, like they
have to they have to qualify to get into school,
but they're the professionals on the football part of the campus.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
It's just it's just so odd.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And and I'm not poo pooing any of it, Like
I want every player for their worth to be paid,
their worth for name, image and likeness, for what they
bring to the university and everything that I want that.
So it's just it's just a different model. And so yeah,
I anticipate that what's going to really be beneficial. And
you know, this is maybe just tooting in the PAC
(33:48):
twelve horn here and Teresa Gould the commissioner, something that
her two predecessors could never have done and seen forward
thinking wise, they kept the PAC twelve brand. Guess what
teams are going to be coming back because they are
not going to be in the nowtional Collegiate Football League
because they can't afford to be.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
So teams that were.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
In the PAC twelve they're gonna be coming back. And
guess who's gonna hold the cards on whether you get
back into the PAC twelve conference? Washington State, Oregon State
and in Teresa goul So there you have it, Andy Staples,
that was great. We're gonna come back for our last
segment here on The Dan Patrick Show. We'll break down
(34:24):
everything leading into the Packers and Lions game tonight, as
well as recap all that went down today right here
on The Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Welcome back everybody to the Dan Patrick Show. Ryan Leaf
here filling in for Dan. Last segment of the show, Boy,
this was my flew Bye boys, flu bye. What a
great show. Andy Staples just joined us. Derwin James from
the Los Angeles Chargers, Lomas Brown all Pro from the
Detroit Lions for that big Detroit Lions Green Bay Packers
(35:04):
matchup tonight football. Football football. That's all we had today.
It's a lot of fun, talked a lot about it. Ah,
breaking news, breaking news, everybody. Brett Vegan, Brent Vegan, head
football coach from Montana State University, podcast named Eddie Robinson
Coach of the Year. Congratulations mister Vegan as the head
(35:26):
football coach for Montana State. Of course you are, you
know of godly form? Makes sense, makes sense everybody. All right,
So we have a few minutes left in the show.
Anybody who's watched the Dan Patrick Show knows that I've
been as staple for many different reasons.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Right, there was a span where it.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Was much ado about nothing to you know, the trials
and tribulations that I went through. But ten years ago,
it was about a year out we were at the
San Francisco super Bowl. Was at Super Bowl fifth I
believe it was my now wife and I drove up
(36:05):
from Los Angeles to go to the nflpa's Player Care
Foundation medical evaluations. They offered free medical evaluations to former players,
most of which guys may have not had physicals for years.
And me being a prison and doing what I did
to my body for as long as I did, I
had no idea what I was like. I didn't know
(36:28):
where I needed to go to get healthy, and so
I went in to do that. That's why I went
to that Super Bowl. I went up there because they
offered those at those sites for those big events. As
I was in the hotel, it was the hotel that
we were doing the checkups in with the doctors, I
ran across Paul Pabst.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
In the hallway.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Now listen, Paul and I and as well as Seaton
and Andrew Perlof and Fritzy We've known each other for years,
pre prison, post prison everything, and PAULI just simply said, hey,
you know, you know told in your hands if you
want to come on talk to about where you're at.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
And I was just I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I talked to the people that I cared about, the
mentors and things like that, and they just they said
something that spoke volumes to me, and I didn't understand
it at the time. Really said, you are a lighthouse
and you don't see lighthouses running around the harbor looking
for boats. And I didn't understand what that meant. And
then you understand, especially living in the Northeast now, lighthouses
(37:25):
are rooted in the rocks, in the foundation, Okay, and
you just you shine a light and you provide a
safe harbor for somebody if they may need it. And
that's all this was. It's a little snippet, it's a minute,
but here's from Super Bowl fifty in San Francisco down
in the marina with Dan and the dan Nants and
myself and my first public statements since walking out of
(37:45):
a prison cell.
Speaker 9 (37:47):
It's great to see you. You look great, you brought
your girlfriend. Looks like you got life in order here, right?
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah? Today I do.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (37:57):
If you were going to recap the last four years
for somebody who had no idea about Ryan leave, how
would you recap four years?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Interesting, I have a lot of life experience. Even more
added on to all this I think that four years
ago I got sick, and when I got sick, I
got offered pain medication from the doctor, and I never
told them that I had a previous problem. I just
had to do radiation for a brain tumor, and I
(38:28):
just assumed that, you know what, everybody else gets to
do this when they're feeling this, but I can't. I
can never take one. And they gave me those pills
December one, twenty twelve, and by March thirtieth, two thousand
or December one, twenty elevel, by March thirtieth, twenty twelve,
I was in a jail cell. So it took four
months for everything to go away.
Speaker 8 (38:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I look different, I even sound a little different. But
it was simply just telling my story, and I think
that was the foundation of what my mentors were talking
to me about. I had no idea that that day
would would spin what it looks like now. Right there's
a lot of water under the bridge in terms of
(39:14):
like because I didn't want to be in the public
eye anymore. I thought I could go and be of
service to other people and then just kind of disappear.
But the Dan Patrick Show exists. My name doesn't disappear,
all right. The draft happens every year, especially when they
take six first round draft picks in the same season.
You know, that's that's what happens. So I had to
(39:37):
figure out a way to take that power back. One
was meeting Trevor Moad and making sure that I didn't
allow negative thoughts into my brain anymore, and that shifted
and changed. Marvin didn't didn't know me. Then he's come
on board after Andrew left, but Fritzi and.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Seaton have and.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I mean from you guys knew me previously to that
moment to where we are now and just your thoughts
about this incredibly grateful life that I get to get
to offer seating.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting that clip. You can hear uh,
I mean you can see obviously a physical change. You
could see too.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
You're uncomfortable and you can hear that You're not confident yet.
You know that's the big difference. You're You're infinitely more
confident sitting here today than you were. That guy right there,
that guy is like a baby, you know, the guy
that was just talking. He's like a pump.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
That that guy.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
That guy, that guy hasn't been in the public eye,
you know, for I don't know how long in that picture.
This is, this will, this will, this will, this will
be crazy. But I'm more confident now as a human
being with all the baggage that exists, and I ever
was in as an NFL quarterback. So thank you to
the listener, thank you to Dan Patrick, Thank you to
(40:56):
you guys for carrying me and always being there for me.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Dad, We'll be back tomorrow. Oh love you all.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Thanks
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Dan Patrick
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