December 5, 2024 • 40 mins
Ryan Leaf is filling in for Dan Patrick today and he is surprised and impressed the Detroit Lions have been so good this season. And he talks to former Lions draft pick and current analyst, Lomas Brown about the culture HC Dan Campbell has created.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome everybody to the Dan Patrick Show. That's
a great question, what does it feel like to be
Pepper's braid? I don't even have an answer to that
one for you, and I probably had a better chance
of being Pepper's braid than most during this process. What
a great opportunity again for me to be in this seat.
We got a great show for everybody today. It's football.
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It's football. It's a little more football Thursday night football.
In fact, one of the best games on Thursday Night ever.
I know it's a little bit of cheating because these
two teams played on Thanksgiving, so it's been a full week.
Normally you have a condensed week for Thursday night football.
You don't get the best football because of injuries and
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things like that. So we're gonna have Lomas Brown, former
Detroit Lion, you know, guy block for Barry Sanders. He's
the analyst for the Detroit lancel beyond here in the
first hour to talk about this huge matchup in the NFL,
and then an hour two Derwin James, all Pro safety
for the Chargers, are going to is going to be
here on the show, and then Andy Staples an, Now
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we're three to talk about college football. So we have
all that conversation. We'll love to take your calls. Want
to hear about all the football stories we can get
out of the I mean, we get the whole pepper
spray thing. I mean, what did it benefit Ohio State
to lose? There's an argument to be had that it
benefited Ohio State to lose. I mean, you heard the
guy running off the field. Your season's over, Michigan.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
We're just we'll play ours, isn't We're still gonna win
a national championship possibly. So this is a conversation we're
going to have throughout the show. But first and foremost,
Thursday Night Football just found out the highest rated winning
percentage Thursday Night game this late in November on Thursday
Night Football in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Oh so the two teams are the most winning this
going into the game.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yes, okay, So this division, of course has shown out
like everybody else, that they're the best division in football.
They have three teams that are on the version of
being double digit win already at this point in the season.
The Packers, the Lions, the Vikings. They all play each
other over the next few weeks to round it out.
So this Lions game is incredibly important, right. Imagine you
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are the number one overall seed. You don't have to
go out the confines of Ford Field into the elements
to Philly to maybe a rowdy, rainy Seattle or something
like that. Everybody has to come through Detroit. I was
there Thanksgiving Day calling that Bears Lions game.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
WHOA what an environment.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I mean, this was the first time on Thanksgiving, even
though they haven't fared well on Thanksgiving that the people
were there to see this team win. It was a favorite,
you know, and they haven't been that. And guess what, folks,
They are the NFC favorite to go to the super Bowl,
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first time ever in the history of the Detroit Lions.
They are the favorite to go to the super Bowl.
And I'm telling you right now, I wouldn't have had
that going into this season.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I was very critical of Dan Campbell and the decision
making he made in the NFC Championship. This team is
going to the super Bowl for the first time ever.
If he just simply attempts the field goal in that
moment instead of going forward on fourth down, I've got
pushback from Lions fans, from others out there. That's what
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they've been doing all year long. This is what they've
always done with Dan Campbell. And I'm like, I don't care.
This isn't Week six against the Detroit Lions or against
the Chicago Bears. This is the NFC Championship, the first
time you've been to it in thirty years. You may
only have the chance to go to the Super Bowl once.
So I really had a lot of apprehension around this
team actually being able to come back this year and
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do what they've done. They've been the best team in football.
They have arguably the best quarterback in football, you could say,
in terms of his accuracy, him overcoming adversity, all the
things that go into it. They've been decimated on the
defensive side because of injuries, especially to Aiden Hutchinson and
then others throughout the yet they still keep finding ways
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to win and win and win. Now, don't forget for
the Green Bay Packers on the side of this. A
year ago, this was the game that propelled them. This
was the catalyst Thanksgiving Day in Detroit, green Bay shows up.
Jordan Love says, not so fast, my friends, and Boots
them out of Ford Field and takes them through the playoffs.
There's another argument we had at Green Bay. If they
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didn't have some of the rookie moments by Jordan Love
or first time playoff moments down the stretch in that game,
they would have been going to Detroit where they had
just won a month earlier for the NFC Championship. So
these two teams are playing incredibly well. Jordan Love hasn't
made any mistakes over the last two weeks. Josh Jacobs
is exactly the back as much as they loved Aaron Jones,
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Josh Jacobs is the back that that Michael Floor you know, wanted.
You know this was this was the guy in snow
in bad weather that could be so physical, run downhill,
be a be a player that can take some of
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the pressure off Jordan Love in big moments. And that
was last week. I don't know about you, but like
Josh Jacobs was the MVP of that game last week.
For as good as Jordan Love then had to be,
that's that's what he wants. Matt Leff, sorry, Matt Lefloor
has just been all over this process trying to build
it ever since. You know, Aaron Rodgers left and allowed
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him kind of the freedom to be the head coach
of the Green Bay Packers. You know, I don't think
he got to be that for the first three years,
even though they were great in thirteen and three. You know,
in those instances, you were always still running this the
Aaron Rodgers offense and what he's been able to do
the less. So this game is incredibly important, makes for
a great opportunity. Lomas Brown's going to talk about us
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and take us through it all here and a little bit.
But this should open up the the idea box for
for the fellas out there. For the poll questions. I
know you guys all have some good ones seating you.
You have some someones you know ruminating so far about
this football.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Yeah, yeah, we got a few pull questions here since PAULI,
who would you rather see win the Super Bowl? The
Bills are the Lions.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Okay, so this is a philosophical question. If your team
is no longer in the fight. Let's say a couple
of weeks from now, your team is out of it.
Let's say deep in the playoffs, your team is out
of it and the Bills and the Lions are in
the Super Bowl. That Bills over four four years. We
know their history. Lions never, Lions never. It almost reminds
me a little bit of the twenty sixteen World Series.
The Cleveland Indians at the time and the Chicago cut Ups,
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two great stories. One of them has to win. Where
would you, guys stand on who you'd root for?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
A lot of Steelers they're not in it, Oh Bills.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I have no wrong answer, but you have to pick one.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Have to pick one.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Huh. Since Detroit has never gone the heartbreak of what
Buffalo has has gone through the four consecutive I would
go Buffalo in this instance.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
O for four is worse than none for one hundred.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I've had that because listen, so listen to this. So
Wade Wilson was my way. Wilson was my quarterback coach
in Dallas, and uh, in my time in Tampa, you know,
I had a chance to be on the injured reserve
possibly for the Tampa Bay Buccaneer Super Bowl run, and
I remember talking to Wade about it because I got
traded to Dallas instead. I asked him, the question is
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is it worse to be a backup on a Super
Bowl winning team? Or never to have gone to a
Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
What do you think? His answer was.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Never, haven't gone?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Right, No, his answer was to be the backup on
a super Bowl winning team.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Because you couldn't participate.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Yeah, ooh.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
It just as a alpha male and as a starting
NFL quarterback, You're like, now, no, I'm sure we would
have a bunch of different answers. But I feel like
I almost agreed with him on that I went because
it really kind of caused me to leave the league.
I probably could have played in the league for ten
more years and been a backup and made a lot
of money doing it.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Probably.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
But I think when you look at the Lions, they
feel like the Cubs. They feel like the NFL's version
of the Cubs. There it's like they've never been there.
And last year, I know you didn't love them coming
in the season. It felt like at halftime, what were
they up twenty four seven at halftime versus the Niners. Yeah,
if I was a Lions fan, I would have been
on an Expedia getting flights to the Super Bowl. Yeah,
And it's like that second half they puckered up in
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the face of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Well, yeah, they just started making different decisions, and because
Dan Campbell had already made the decision, like the end
of the first half, he kicked the field goal. You know,
if you were still going on for it on fourth down,
you would have went for a touchdown there. I mean,
you've already made the decision. It was a closer field goal,
don't get me wrong, but you've already made the decision.
You don't have to make it again because you've already
made it. Kicked The biggest thing about this and I
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don't understand why they didn't understand it because everything's about analytics.
They kicked the field goal there. San Francisco doesn't have
enough possessions. That's the difference. When you don't get the
first down, you have now given up a possession, allowed
San Francisco now not to have to need as many possessions.
You go back to the Chargers Jags game a couple
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of playoffs years ago. The Jags have to score on
every single possession they have in that second half to
get back in it and beat the Chargers, like every
single one of them. They couldn't have one mistake, and
so as a as a team like the det lines,
and that your job at that point is to make
the game out of reach.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It's like that Houston Texans Chiefs playoff game. We weren't
the Texans up twenty one? Yes zero at half and
all the guys are going crazy in the Texans and
that they tried that fake field goal. Yeah, that Sorenson
snuffed out from the Chiefs and that was it. It
just went the other way.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I you know, I and I get it. I understand
what pressure and scrutiny and just in those moments can
feel like, because it's happened to all of us who
have played any sort of professional sport. You never know
what pressure's going to do to you in those kind
of moments. I mean, you look at Sean McDermott in
the thirteen second game in Kansas City at Arrowhead, Like,
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there's so many things you would have done differently in
those thirteen seconds that you understand, and you would have Fritzy.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Was there pressure, stupidity or both? The way the Falcons
blew that Patriot Super Bowl? What happened to them other
than deciding not to eat more of the clock and
passing when they should be running.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I mean, we were all there. I just found out
Anna was pregnant Lady Gaga had the halftime show, and
we were at halftime and my little brother had at
the beginning of the year fifty to one odds on
the Falcons who win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Oh no, yes, he's.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Counting his cash.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
He's counting his cash. In fact, I talked to him
at halftime. I said, you're not going to hedge it,
and he's because he was thinking about hedging it so
he could make some money. And seems like, I mean,
we all looked at each other and said, you don't
have to hedge it.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
You're good, bro.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Oh And just like anything, it's just a stone starts
to trickle down the hill, right, and it starts gathering
momentum and moss and rolling. And then you look at decisions.
Every little decision is magnified tenfold. So what Kyle Shanahan
and Dan Quinn could have done in those points and
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literally could have taken knees on that one drive and
kicked the feel attempted a field goal and they would
have won the game because same difference. There wouldn't have
been enough possessions, Polly.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
If we're going back, and this is a fun topic,
we fall into games that frustrate you still like, I'm
not even a forty nine Ers fan, Marvin. Sorry. In
the forty nine Ers Chief Super Bowl and they were
trying to run out the clock with Jimmy Garoppolo and
Raheem Mostered, and I think in the fourth quarter on
a first down to ten, most runs for five yards,
and then they threw two more passes. Chris Jones knocked
one down and then they had to get rid of
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the ball, and I was like, just give it to Mostard,
Just give it to moster it and if he gets
five more yards or three more yards and the clock runs.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
This is this is a Kyle Shanahan trend here.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
And that's the difference between Jimy Garoppolo having his own
Super Bowl ring and Mahomes having one less Yeah, those
couple play calls.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, and being beaten by Jimmy Garoppolo and Tom Brady,
two former Patriots.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Kyle Shanahan, for as good as he is, seemingly gets
in his own way, sometimes in terms of his play calling,
when the easiest, most sensible solution is the right one,
and sometimes to the deficit of whatever team he's coaching,
has been incredibly costly, incredibly costly and that's just the
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way it's been for this for this forty nine ers team,
and frankly any team, Kyle Shanaan has been the offensive corner.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
More polls here for Seaton.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
Yeah, let's see, we could go with perception wise. This
one's a version of a poll question Todd had perception wise,
how important is tonight's game for the Lions? Extremely important
or not really at all?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
We know who they are.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Well, the second half of the Chicago game was incredibly poor.
You allowed a team that was dead and gone in
the first half to come back, and realistically, if they
don't absolutely self implode on the final thirty three seconds
of the game, you know that could have turned out
much differently.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
You were in the booth. What was going on in
the booth?
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
You were calling the game with Jason right.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, Jason Bennetti, who just by all means everybody is
a play by play god. Okay, It's sometimes I get
lost and just listening to him and I forget I
have to say something after he.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Has told everybody what he's talking. Yeah, yeah, And so.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
He's dead and he finally just looks at me and
he's like, how how Ryan, how does that happen, and
my answer was, like I they're the Bears. That was
my answer on live national radio following the play by
play God was simply to say that was the rep
or that was the Bears. What I saw, plain and simple,
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was a rookie quarterback that did not know where he was.
He didn't know the situation, He didn't know the down
and distance, he didn't know timeouts, he didn't know what
was going on. But for all of those things that exist,
your coach, who's on the sideline when twenty two seconds hits,
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because that's usually the line of demarcation for anything at
the end of game, when twenty two seconds hits, and
you see yourquarterback does not know where he's at, and
I don't know why. I don't know if you got
knocked in the head when he got pulled down on
that sack on that final play, or if he was
just you know, not seeing the bigger picture. As we
all know, we went and changed the play even and
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ran out of time. If you're mad at your plush,
you got to call time out at twenty two seconds,
because listen, you call time out there at least just
to look at your quarterback and say Hey, kyleb you
know where you're.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
At right, you know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What's a stake. You get him back, get him focused.
You could complete the next pass for a first down,
whether it's a short one and you can get up
there and spike it, or if it's a little bit longer,
takes a little more time. Your field goal unit knows
we don't have time out left. You have to be
ready to run out there, kick the game, time field goal,
send it to overtime. All these things. For all my
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misfortune and all my mistakes and everything like that, we
were talking about this before the game. From high school
until my final snap as an NFL quarterback, one of
the best things I did was time management. Like there
was never an example that you can look throughout my
career from college, high school to pros where I just
did not know the situation. And I think it's what
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makes me such a good play caller when I'm calling games,
is I just understand the bigger picture. A lot of
us who didn't excel at the game doesn't mean we
can't see it better like we see it expert wise.
We just couldn't execute it. That's why I think for me,
seeing somebody like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and the
guys that Patrick mahomes, what they do is so darn
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impressive because I'm like, I couldn't do that. I can
see how to do that, and I can tell you
how to do that, but then doing that as well
is what makes it makes it crazy. We're going to
get into all that and much more and a big
reason why you know, I'm wearing the Russell Wilson jersey.
You know, thanks Russ Dangerous sent me a home in
a way jersey to start this year because I don't
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know if anybody remembers, but I was the only guy
out there that said that this Fitzburgh Steelers team was
going to be special with Russ at the helm. But
when we come back, we're gonna listen to Lonos Brown,
Detroit Lions broadcaster, to break everything down right here. Seven
time Pro bowler Lowemus Brown is gonna join us and
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talk all about the Lions Packers game right here on
the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
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Welcome back everybody to the Dan Patrick Show. I'm Ryan
Lee filling in for Dan today. A lot of football,
so much football?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Did you guys see that on Peacock Me? I mean,
how crazy were we seton? You got hung out a
I don't know, four story window in New York. I'm
trying to throw a ball across the avenue and there's
Andrew perlof McLevin got hit by traffic trying to what
were we thinking?
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And we're all about I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
You guys were all about fifteen pounds heavier and I'm
about fifty pounds heavier. I mean, just better did life
decisions now.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
By the crew? Okay, so all right, speaking of.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Better life decisions? Uh, Setan, what do we have on.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
The poll question for the first hour?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Yeah, right now, results pending, but we're gonna go with
those first two. Who would you rather see you win
the Super Bowl? Bills are Lions? And then also how
important is tonight's game for the Lions perception wise? Extremely
or not really at all?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Okay, all right, well we can probably get some answers
here from our next guest, Lomas Brown, seven time pro bowler,
legend for the Lions. He joins us now to talk
about the Lions Packers matchup Almas.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
How we doing today, Buddy.
Speaker 9 (18:40):
I'm doing great, Ryan, Ryan. You look good man. I'm like, wow,
you look good, Ryan.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, that'll happen when you had decide to have kids
in your in your fifties.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Uh, well almost so do you.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I mean, I mean, what was your plane weight, man,
you were probably low three hundreds.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Yeah, my first six I was three fifteen.
Speaker 9 (19:01):
My last twelve years in the league between two seventy
five and two eighty.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
So yeah, you're right about that.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I mean it goes to show when you see a
lot of those former NFL offensive linemen, I mean, to
keep that weight on, to stay that strong and physical
and be that you know, presence in the in the
trenches is huge.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 9 (19:25):
And you see a lot of these guys, man, you
see Joe Thomas and all these guys now and they've
dropped all that weight. But like you say, Ryan, is
just necessary to carry that weight while you're in the league.
Once you get out the league, man, let it go.
Let it go. If you're a big fellaw.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I couldn't get over on.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I was there Thursday in Detroit calling the game for
Westwood One, and I don't know if it was just me,
but the offensive line for the Detroit Lions seemingly feels
like they're giants. I mean, they're just tall, athletic. Don't
have like the dad bought offensive lineman either. It's just
it's rough and rugged. Speaking of that Thursday game, hadn't
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won a Thanksgiving game since twenty sixteen, was dominating first
half kickfield goals rather than got touchdowns against the Bears
team that is very good in the red zone defensively,
but then fell apart in this So what did you
see from that game, Lomus in terms of, hey, you
found a way to win it. But that second half
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was a trend of what the Lions have been around
this time of year every year for the last you know,
since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 9 (20:36):
Yeah, no, you're right about that, and that's how it's
going to be the rest of this season. And we
got divisional games left, like you say, the night with
Green Bay, and then we got Chicago coming again, and
we got Minnesota again.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
So all these games are gonna be this way. It
won't be. I don't think it's gonna be any more ballouts.
Speaker 9 (20:56):
I don't think you're gonna see us blowing teams out
like we did a few weeks back. I think all
these games are gonna be tough, competitive games because we
know each other so well.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
And like you.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
Said, with that Chicago game, man, it started off with
us moving the ball but not being able to put
up seven points when we need when we got in
the red zone, settling for three points and finding the way,
like you said, in the end, with some help from
Matt Eberfluts.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
I'll say it.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
He gave us a little help, but we were able
to overcome that, not going to overtime and win that game.
So again we can expect help like that from the
head coach. These are games we're gonna have to go
into from the start, and we're gonna have to be
able to finish these games.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
This football team has been transformed under Dan Campbell. And
thankful that the decision makers there in Detroit didn't get,
you know, an eachy trigger finger when things weren't going
right right away and you played during the time where
you had, you know, the best running back to maybe
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ever play, and you just couldn't seem to quite get
over the top.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
And it was the Lions.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
This is different. This team is actually the highest odds
to make the Super Bowl in the NFC, first time
ever in NFL history. What's it like to have seen
that change there in Detroit with Dan Campbell at the
helm and everybody follow suit, maybe slowly but surely, but
the fan base is followed. The team certainly had to
believe before anybody else.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Yeah, it's been great. It's been great to see it.
And just think about the job that not only.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Him, but Brad Holmes and Sheila hamp Ford. Just think
of the job they had to do. Because Ryan, they
had to change a whole culture. It wasn't just a
team and the organization. They had to change the whole
culture around the Detroit Lions. Because it was same old Lions.
The fans expected us to lose tight games or to
find a way to lose a game.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
You know.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
It was always yeah, they gonna get there, but they're
not gonna complete the job. Now it's so different now
with the influx of guys that we brought in. This
is a team. Now you have to be able to
fit being a Lion Now. It wasn't like that before
anybody could plete for the Lions. It's not like that anymore.
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And to be honest with you, who deserves it more
are the fans, because the fans have been suffering for
so long.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Ryan, it was thirty some years ago when I was
here the last time we.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
Went to you know, other than the last year when
we went to an NFC championship game, we've never been
to a super Bowl. We don't know what that's like.
So we've been suffering a long time. And like I say,
I feel so good for the fans around here because
they finally have something to really really cheer about.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
We're speaking with Lomas Brown, seven time pro bowler for
the Detroit Lions and the analyst on tonight's broadcast. This
Packers team a year ago on Thanksgiving, like this was
the same time about last year.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
They came in.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
No one expected them. I think they were sizeable underdog,
and Jordan Love and this Lion or this Packers team
found a way and then they kind of went on
a run that got them into a position into the playoffs.
What's this game like, you know, after the last week,
a full week off since Thanksgiving, what do you think
the most important thing for Detroit to stop this Lion?
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To this This Packers team is going to be the.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
Biggest thing for us tonight is for us to stop
their run game. Stop Josh Jacobs. That's the biggest thing
we're going to have to do, because they want to
run the ball. That's their identity, just like it's the
idemity of the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
That's what we do.
Speaker 9 (24:42):
We established to run Jared Golf and all the rest
of the weapons, then they can do what they need
to do. Wants to run has been established. So us
with us being beat up on the D line, my
goodness line, our D line, they won't play tonight. So
we're really really so if I'm Green Bay, that's where
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I'm trying to attack the Detroit Lions with my inside
run game and see.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
How we hold up against that.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
So, to me, the biggest thing we're gonna have to
do defensively stop the run. The biggest thing offensively we're
going to have to do is put up seven points
when we get into red zone.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
We're going to have to outscore the green Bay Packers.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah, I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I Mean, you knew that the Bears weren't gonna score
in the first half last week. It just it was
not in the cards, so three points were okay, But
this is going to be a different story tonight. Lomas,
thank you so good to see you. Thanks for taking
time today and being a part of the show.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Ryan's good sting you. Thanks for having me, my man.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yes, sir Lomas Brown, everybody, seven time pro bowler for
the said Detroit Lions played against him when I was
with the Dallas Cowboys went up to Detroit playing against
Barry Sanders, who that was something special. But he's exactly right.
I mean, there is like the idea around and what
do you fear most? You know, do you fear the
two teams that are right behind you in the division
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or anybody outside the division? Because the NFC West and
the NFC East or the NFC's South, they're just they're
just fighting over each other at six and six or
so to get into the playoff and get a get
a first round playoff game. The Philadelphia Eagles they're a
different story.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
The Eagles had just won eight straight. Yeah, and they
cooled off a lot at the end of last season,
and a lot of people were down on them to
start this season. If you had to pick that game today,
Eagles Lions.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You know, this would not have been the answer that
I would have given probably two or three weeks ago.
But after seeing the Eagles dismantle I don't care how
close that score was last week against the Baltimore Ravens. Guys,
they dismantled Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
That was a beatdown. That was an early.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Onslaught of just accepting what was happening and then just
putting your foot down on the gas and driving through everything,
you know.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
And I was I was very.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Critical of.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Their head coach early on.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I was like, hey, you know, he seems to be
Nick Sirianni. Seems to be the liability on this football
team with some of the decisions. You recall the Jacksonville
Jaguars game, like he did everything in his power. I
felt like to find a way to lose that game,
and the defense and Nakobe Dean found a way to
win it, you know. And I was like, hey, do
they really need him? I mean, they got Kellen Moore,
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they got Vic Vangio, you know, And the answers for
most people were, Howie Roseman, it's his puppet, and so
how he needs him there to do what he needs
is bidding.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
For but then there's just this fight, this.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Continuation being beat up, injuries offensively, Davonte Smith being out,
A J. Brown being out. Yeah, Saquon Barkley, I mean
a running back position. For whatever it's worth, it depends
on what team you're on. Dude's been so special. He's
been the difference in this football team. He's allowed Jalen Hurts.
There's so much off the plate of Jalen Hurts this year.
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And then defensively they got in better. Those young guys
that maybe struggled a little bit last year trying to
find in their way, they drafted well. So I'm gonna
say it, if I had to pick a game right
now for the NFC Championship to get to the Super Bowl,
with the way the teams are playing right now, and
maybe Detroit can change my opinion after the Knight's performance.
Right now, it's the Philadelphia Eagles that that the performance
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against the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday was was one of
the most impressive performances I think I've seen from a
from a team that people were a little skeptical of,
for a team that a lot of people have a
ton of confidence in.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Holly is there a third best team. I mean there is,
but to you the third most threatening team in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
You know, I would have said the Atlanta Falcons about
five weeks ago. Four weeks ago, and they've just absolutely
turned tail and run. I'd be a little fearful of
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
At Tampa Bay is six and six. They've won two
in a row and they're the only team in the
NFC South that's outscored their opponents this year. They had
a lot of close losses in the first half of
the season.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, I mean, Baker Mayfield is an absolute stud. I
mean that team, that team would that team would walk
through traffic, like five o'clock traffic in l A. They're
walking through it for Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
You know, you know they're.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
They're they're forced to go to a bachelorette party on
a on a Sunday and in the fall.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Uh, they're doing that for Baker Mayfield. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
they're totally doing.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
That kid's birthday party whatever thet party, kids birthday party
doesn't matter. Like this, this team would would bend over
backwards for him. They're they're willing to jump on the
lawsuit to sue his dad too. There's they're they're they're
all in it. They're all in it everybody. It's it
has been uh that that's the team in the NFC.
The Packers of course, Uh, the Vikings. The Vikings just
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find ways to win. Kevin O'Connell, he's got it down.
He figures out ways to win. That defense with Brian Flores,
they do some fun thing. I mean, I think the
NFC is going to be very interesting this year, very
interesting a f C two. But the Detroit Lions has
been the best team Jared got for me, was the
MVP for a long time. I think probably stepped off
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that MVP bus when the five interception game happened.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Though.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
They found a way to win, and then he came
back and turned around through like five touchdowns the next week,
So he knows how to overcome, that's for sure. Ironically,
it would be completely unbelievable if what Sean McVay did
to exile him to Detroit, to bring in Matthew Stafford
to win a super Bowl, to then watch Jared Goff
ultimately win a super Bowl in Detroit where it's never
happened before, where Matthew Stafford couldn't do it. I mean,
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I think that would be an incredible thirty for thirty everybody, Marvin.
Speaker 10 (30:34):
If the Lions win the Super Bowl, who gets a statue?
Dan Campbell or Jared Goff?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Oh one statue?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Oh that's Dan Campbell.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's got to give it to coach because he because
he you know, he referenced fighting kneecaps, and I think
if you're in Detroit, Jared hasn't said much. Jared is like,
you know, very stoic and just kind of goes about
his business. And then you go to Dan and Dan's like, yeah,
I'm I'm you know, I'm the waiter at Applebee's. I'm
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freaking biting kneecaps, I'm doing all this stuff seating.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Yeah, it really feels like he is the identity of
that team and everybody has bought in one hundred percent.
You know, there is no question who the figure ahead
is there and who the guy is.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So I'm on the field last week pregame and I
walk up to Jared and I talked to Jared a
little bit, and then I'm walking around and talk to
Am and Ross Saint Brown, and then I see the
offensive lineman, I talk to Piney sewell, and I see
these giants, but guess what, there's even a bigger giant
standing right in the middle of him, walking around talking
each one of them.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Its Dan camp Does he lift before the game and
he gets a pumped on me? He looks like he might.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
He looks like he does, but I think that he's
I think that's just natural Dan. I think it's natural Dan.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Okay, you guys talked you guys. I agree with you
that if there is a statue for the Lions as
Dan Campbell, any chance you could have co statues like
they did in Philadelphia. It's Doug Peterson and Nick Foles
together calling that Philly special play. That's the statue off
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Well, there would have to be some sort of corrop
rating play or something that existed between Dan and Jared.
I think that that would have to be the corroborating
statue otherwise, otherwise, right now it's it's it's Dan Campbell
and Dan Campbell.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Is there anything more weird in sports? That Nick Foles
has a statue outside of stadium? Is that the weirdest
thing in sports? If I said it ten years ago,
why falls?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Well, I think as a fan yes, as a former
quarterback and having watched him from Arizona stuff, I'm like,
I always I always knew he was capable of something
like that, but the running, so it's not and it's
not it's not super foreign for me.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
It's weird.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Well, he he has the weirdest pro career.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
All.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I love that twenty five touchdown two interception season. Yeah,
then it didn't work out for a while. Then Carson
Wentz gets hurt and he leads him to a super
Bowl in the season they thought was over.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I mean, the show just goes to show, you know,
any player who gets it to the NFL the quarterback level,
is capable of doing that if they make a run
and they have a team behind him, like they had
that year in Philly. And so I love it. I
absolutely love it for Nick Foles. I recruited him when
I was coaching in college. Uh he you know, initially
went to Michigan State before he got went to Arizona.
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And he's from a little on not a little one.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
He's from a very you know.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Uh, he's from Austin Westlake in uh in Austin, Texas,
where Drew Brees went as well. Very Uh quarterback heavy.
All Right, we gotta go because when we come back,
we're gonna all right, we're gonna jump into some here.
There's some random football questions gonna be coming my way
from very random, very random. All right, all right, we'll
find out here. Thanks for listening to everybody. You're listening
(33:29):
to the Dan Patrick Shoan. Rianley filling in.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
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Speaker 2 (33:41):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Play of the day.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
God, this is no play on the day.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Check this out.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Ten seconds left, he'll shoot the three.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
It's no good.
Speaker 11 (33:57):
It's been She's determined change, courage, Jane Strength, and Jake When,
Jane When, Jane When.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
And dorm four in.
Speaker 10 (34:13):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Welcome back everybody to the Dan Patrick Show. I'm Ryan
Lee fillin it for Dan today that there's a play
of the day. That was the final call of Creighton
upsetting number one ranked Kansas last night.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Creighton has a tendency to do this thing.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Last year, they won their last two games against the
number one ranked team. They defeated top ranked Connecticut last
year not only defeated him, they beat him by twenty
points eighty five sixty six.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Last February. Listen to this.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Number one, number two, and number five Kansas, Auburn, Marquette
all lost Wednesday. This is the first time in the
regular season that three top five teams have lost all
in the same day since February twenty sixth. Twenty twenty
two went all like one through six loss by the
way on that day, that's that's a crazy stat in itself.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
There you have it. That is the play of the day.
College basketball. We talked about that pre show. There's a
little there's a little.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I don't know, there's been a rebirth a little bit,
not as much three points shooting, a little more fundamental technique.
Guy actually puts a finger up, they're going to run
a back pick or something like that.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
And really, you guys feel that when you're watching that,
it feels more like traditional basketball than NBA, where it's
it feels like it's mostly threes and then some post play.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yes, because I also think there's such a difference in
what college football has become in the eyes of a
lot of people, and for whatever reason, anil still exists
in college basketball people. Yet for some reason, no one's
really talking about it, like it's this huge underlying facet
that college football has become.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
That's changed a little bit for me, Marvin.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
I think the big thing is that college football, they
have to be there for at least three years so
you get to know them, or they start to switch schools.
Guys like Cooper Flag and Ace Bailey, the big time recruit.
Good point, they're only there for six months and avery
there for the full school year.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
The idea that you are more used to as a
basketball fan of college basketball players as limited as it is,
you know, it may not be a four year type
of thing. It may not be that mindset probably.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
And I think that's what's helped the women's game the
past five years, especially that Juju Watkins is not going anywhere.
She's just gonna be a superstar in college for a
long long time. Caitlyn Clark felt like she was their
seven years page.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Buker's just yeah, it's like so Sabrina and Escu at Oregon.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
You know, it's storylines repeat from year to year. You
don't have like when I tuned in, there was a
big slate of college basketball last night, and I was
watching Kansas Creighton and I had to learn the names
of the players on Kansas because you know, you can't
follow it. It just changes so fast.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, I couldn't. I'm going to Cooper Flags the only one.
And I think it's just because you reminded me of
it today, I realistically couldn't give you. I might give
you be a We'll give you a Washington No, I
went to a Washington State game the other night, but
I still don't have that for you. All right, pull
up date here seating before we go.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Yeah, we'd grab you a quick update. Okay, we've got
two of them working right now based off of tonight's game,
well kind of perception wise. How important is tonight's game
for the Lions extremely or not at all? That's fifty
to fifty. It's a pretty good pole question.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I think they're probably hedging their bets a little bit.
Their Lions fans is like, you know, yeah, you know,
it's not that big a deal, not that big deal.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Who would you rather see win the Super Bowl? Bills
are Lions? Right now? Lions have sixty percent of that vote.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Interesting, I'm Bill's I love the Lions. I'd love to
see Jared Goff do it. I'd hate to see them
play each other. This is like a HARBA super Bowl, Like,
I don't want to see that again.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I know them both, I love them both. I don't
want them to have to do that. I can't imagine
what their parents were going through.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
I don't know, man, it kind of sounds like the
most ideal matchup I've ever heard of.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, well, of course it is. I don't want to
this is Hey, don't forget, this is all about me,
all right. So let's go to something here. This was
brought up before the show, and I thought this is
very interesting. Random random football questions from the dan Ets
to myself. Here, is there any order we want to
start in? Mister you pass, Let's go seat in O'Connor.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
What did the Panthers do with Bryce Young?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
He's your first round pick from a year ago, you
got a brand new coach, you benched him after four
or five games, forcefully by an owner, and then he's
come back and realistically won you the game last week
on a comeback. So he's your quarterback for the future.
If you don't see that, then you are delusional to
what you think can happen moving forward, Polly.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
I'm gonna go off season. Sam Darnold's twenty seven, Russell
Wilson is thirty six. They'll both be complete free agents.
Who is more valuable or who will be more desired.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
In the free agency market, Ironically the thirty six year
old because of his experience, and if they are able
to go deep into the playoffs or even put themselves
in a position to go to a super Bowl, it's
going to be Russell Wilson. He's going to be able
to demand some top dollar. In reference to Sam Donald,
all he has unless the Minnesota Vikings his forms of
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success that ultimately end, in the eyes of a lot
of people, failure. And he's only twenty seven years old,
but he's been you know, he's been the youngest guy
in the room forever. Like I think he was drafted
at fourteen, So it's not like that for me is
going to be overwhelming. If he's good enough for the
Vikings to get to an NFC championship game, he's good
enough to be your starting quarterback in Minnesota. Hey, I
(39:40):
know you just drafted JB. McCarthy, but guess what he's
also on a rookie deal. This is an opportunity still
to have two great quarterbacks because something you pointed out
to me, you could pay Sam Donald a reasonable amount
of money to be your starting quarterback and still have
JJ McCarthy on a rookie deal, and you have an
unbelievable quarterback room. So don't poop poo that idea out there,
Vikings fan, That's a real thing that could be the case.
(40:02):
Don't poopoo here, don't we don't poopoo here, Fritzy.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
Albert Reer was on the show recently and Dan and
all of us were surprised when he said it. Seven
to ten coaches could possibly lose their job by Black Monday.
How many coaches should be worried that they're going to
be gone.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
By years in?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Every coach should be worried. Every coach, every coach should
be worried. This is Super Bowl time. The Chiefs own it.
If you're not doing something that inch closer to get
to that, you better be looking behind you because they're
going to need These owners are going to want O
winn a championship, so they're gonna move by it.
Speaker 10 (40:30):
Marvin, who should the Bears hire as their next head
coach Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Wow, Wow, that's my next head coach. Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
He coached Caleb. He understands what it's going to look like.
He can do the same thing that he's done with
James Daniels in Washington. And if your Bears fans, I
don't know, you just find a great defensive coordinator, but
you need to be offensive special with the weapons that
you have. All right, second hour coming up, Derwin James
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome everybody to the Dan Patrick Show. That's
a great question, what does it feel like to be
Pepper's braid? I don't even have an answer to that
one for you, and I probably had a better chance
of being Pepper's braid than most during this process. What
a great opportunity again for me to be in this seat.
We got a great show for everybody today. It's football.
(00:27):
It's football. It's a little more football Thursday night football.
In fact, one of the best games on Thursday Night ever.
I know it's a little bit of cheating because these
two teams played on Thanksgiving, so it's been a full week.
Normally you have a condensed week for Thursday night football.
You don't get the best football because of injuries and
(00:47):
things like that. So we're gonna have Lomas Brown, former
Detroit Lion, you know, guy block for Barry Sanders. He's
the analyst for the Detroit lancel beyond here in the
first hour to talk about this huge matchup in the NFL,
and then an hour two Derwin James, all Pro safety
for the Chargers, are going to is going to be
here on the show, and then Andy Staples an, Now
(01:09):
we're three to talk about college football. So we have
all that conversation. We'll love to take your calls. Want
to hear about all the football stories we can get
out of the I mean, we get the whole pepper
spray thing. I mean, what did it benefit Ohio State
to lose? There's an argument to be had that it
benefited Ohio State to lose. I mean, you heard the
guy running off the field. Your season's over, Michigan.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
We're just we'll play ours, isn't We're still gonna win
a national championship possibly. So this is a conversation we're
going to have throughout the show. But first and foremost,
Thursday Night Football just found out the highest rated winning
percentage Thursday Night game this late in November on Thursday
Night Football in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Oh so the two teams are the most winning this
going into the game.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yes, okay, So this division, of course has shown out
like everybody else, that they're the best division in football.
They have three teams that are on the version of
being double digit win already at this point in the season.
The Packers, the Lions, the Vikings. They all play each
other over the next few weeks to round it out.
So this Lions game is incredibly important, right. Imagine you
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are the number one overall seed. You don't have to
go out the confines of Ford Field into the elements
to Philly to maybe a rowdy, rainy Seattle or something
like that. Everybody has to come through Detroit. I was
there Thanksgiving Day calling that Bears Lions game.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
WHOA what an environment.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I mean, this was the first time on Thanksgiving, even
though they haven't fared well on Thanksgiving that the people
were there to see this team win. It was a favorite,
you know, and they haven't been that. And guess what, folks,
They are the NFC favorite to go to the super Bowl,
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first time ever in the history of the Detroit Lions.
They are the favorite to go to the super Bowl.
And I'm telling you right now, I wouldn't have had
that going into this season.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I was very critical of Dan Campbell and the decision
making he made in the NFC Championship. This team is
going to the super Bowl for the first time ever.
If he just simply attempts the field goal in that
moment instead of going forward on fourth down, I've got
pushback from Lions fans, from others out there. That's what
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they've been doing all year long. This is what they've
always done with Dan Campbell. And I'm like, I don't care.
This isn't Week six against the Detroit Lions or against
the Chicago Bears. This is the NFC Championship, the first
time you've been to it in thirty years. You may
only have the chance to go to the Super Bowl once.
So I really had a lot of apprehension around this
team actually being able to come back this year and
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do what they've done. They've been the best team in football.
They have arguably the best quarterback in football, you could say,
in terms of his accuracy, him overcoming adversity, all the
things that go into it. They've been decimated on the
defensive side because of injuries, especially to Aiden Hutchinson and
then others throughout the yet they still keep finding ways
(04:21):
to win and win and win. Now, don't forget for
the Green Bay Packers on the side of this. A
year ago, this was the game that propelled them. This
was the catalyst Thanksgiving Day in Detroit, green Bay shows up.
Jordan Love says, not so fast, my friends, and Boots
them out of Ford Field and takes them through the playoffs.
There's another argument we had at Green Bay. If they
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didn't have some of the rookie moments by Jordan Love
or first time playoff moments down the stretch in that game,
they would have been going to Detroit where they had
just won a month earlier for the NFC Championship. So
these two teams are playing incredibly well. Jordan Love hasn't
made any mistakes over the last two weeks. Josh Jacobs
is exactly the back as much as they loved Aaron Jones,
(05:05):
Josh Jacobs is the back that that Michael Floor you know, wanted.
You know this was this was the guy in snow
in bad weather that could be so physical, run downhill,
be a be a player that can take some of
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the pressure off Jordan Love in big moments. And that
was last week. I don't know about you, but like
Josh Jacobs was the MVP of that game last week.
For as good as Jordan Love then had to be,
that's that's what he wants. Matt Leff, sorry, Matt Lefloor
has just been all over this process trying to build
it ever since. You know, Aaron Rodgers left and allowed
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him kind of the freedom to be the head coach
of the Green Bay Packers. You know, I don't think
he got to be that for the first three years,
even though they were great in thirteen and three. You know,
in those instances, you were always still running this the
Aaron Rodgers offense and what he's been able to do
the less. So this game is incredibly important, makes for
a great opportunity. Lomas Brown's going to talk about us
(06:13):
and take us through it all here and a little bit.
But this should open up the the idea box for
for the fellas out there. For the poll questions. I
know you guys all have some good ones seating you.
You have some someones you know ruminating so far about
this football.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Yeah, yeah, we got a few pull questions here since PAULI,
who would you rather see win the Super Bowl? The
Bills are the Lions.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Okay, so this is a philosophical question. If your team
is no longer in the fight. Let's say a couple
of weeks from now, your team is out of it.
Let's say deep in the playoffs, your team is out
of it and the Bills and the Lions are in
the Super Bowl. That Bills over four four years. We
know their history. Lions never, Lions never. It almost reminds
me a little bit of the twenty sixteen World Series.
The Cleveland Indians at the time and the Chicago cut Ups,
(07:00):
two great stories. One of them has to win. Where
would you, guys stand on who you'd root for?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
A lot of Steelers they're not in it, Oh Bills.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I have no wrong answer, but you have to pick one.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Have to pick one.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Huh. Since Detroit has never gone the heartbreak of what
Buffalo has has gone through the four consecutive I would
go Buffalo in this instance.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
O for four is worse than none for one hundred.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I've had that because listen, so listen to this. So
Wade Wilson was my way. Wilson was my quarterback coach
in Dallas, and uh, in my time in Tampa, you know,
I had a chance to be on the injured reserve
possibly for the Tampa Bay Buccaneer Super Bowl run, and
I remember talking to Wade about it because I got
traded to Dallas instead. I asked him, the question is
(08:00):
is it worse to be a backup on a Super
Bowl winning team? Or never to have gone to a
Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
What do you think? His answer was.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Never, haven't gone?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Right, No, his answer was to be the backup on
a super Bowl winning team.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Because you couldn't participate.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Yeah, ooh.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
It just as a alpha male and as a starting
NFL quarterback, You're like, now, no, I'm sure we would
have a bunch of different answers. But I feel like
I almost agreed with him on that I went because
it really kind of caused me to leave the league.
I probably could have played in the league for ten
more years and been a backup and made a lot
of money doing it.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Probably.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
But I think when you look at the Lions, they
feel like the Cubs. They feel like the NFL's version
of the Cubs. There it's like they've never been there.
And last year, I know you didn't love them coming
in the season. It felt like at halftime, what were
they up twenty four seven at halftime versus the Niners. Yeah,
if I was a Lions fan, I would have been
on an Expedia getting flights to the Super Bowl. Yeah,
And it's like that second half they puckered up in
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the face of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Well, yeah, they just started making different decisions, and because
Dan Campbell had already made the decision, like the end
of the first half, he kicked the field goal. You know,
if you were still going on for it on fourth down,
you would have went for a touchdown there. I mean,
you've already made the decision. It was a closer field goal,
don't get me wrong, but you've already made the decision.
You don't have to make it again because you've already
made it. Kicked The biggest thing about this and I
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don't understand why they didn't understand it because everything's about analytics.
They kicked the field goal there. San Francisco doesn't have
enough possessions. That's the difference. When you don't get the
first down, you have now given up a possession, allowed
San Francisco now not to have to need as many possessions.
You go back to the Chargers Jags game a couple
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of playoffs years ago. The Jags have to score on
every single possession they have in that second half to
get back in it and beat the Chargers, like every
single one of them. They couldn't have one mistake, and
so as a as a team like the det lines,
and that your job at that point is to make
the game out of reach.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It's like that Houston Texans Chiefs playoff game. We weren't
the Texans up twenty one? Yes zero at half and
all the guys are going crazy in the Texans and
that they tried that fake field goal. Yeah, that Sorenson
snuffed out from the Chiefs and that was it. It
just went the other way.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I you know, I and I get it. I understand
what pressure and scrutiny and just in those moments can
feel like, because it's happened to all of us who
have played any sort of professional sport. You never know
what pressure's going to do to you in those kind
of moments. I mean, you look at Sean McDermott in
the thirteen second game in Kansas City at Arrowhead, Like,
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there's so many things you would have done differently in
those thirteen seconds that you understand, and you would have Fritzy.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Was there pressure, stupidity or both? The way the Falcons
blew that Patriot Super Bowl? What happened to them other
than deciding not to eat more of the clock and
passing when they should be running.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I mean, we were all there. I just found out
Anna was pregnant Lady Gaga had the halftime show, and
we were at halftime and my little brother had at
the beginning of the year fifty to one odds on
the Falcons who win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Oh no, yes, he's.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Counting his cash.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
He's counting his cash. In fact, I talked to him
at halftime. I said, you're not going to hedge it,
and he's because he was thinking about hedging it so
he could make some money. And seems like, I mean,
we all looked at each other and said, you don't
have to hedge it.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
You're good, bro.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Oh And just like anything, it's just a stone starts
to trickle down the hill, right, and it starts gathering
momentum and moss and rolling. And then you look at decisions.
Every little decision is magnified tenfold. So what Kyle Shanahan
and Dan Quinn could have done in those points and
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literally could have taken knees on that one drive and
kicked the feel attempted a field goal and they would
have won the game because same difference. There wouldn't have
been enough possessions, Polly.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
If we're going back, and this is a fun topic,
we fall into games that frustrate you still like, I'm
not even a forty nine Ers fan, Marvin. Sorry. In
the forty nine Ers Chief Super Bowl and they were
trying to run out the clock with Jimmy Garoppolo and
Raheem Mostered, and I think in the fourth quarter on
a first down to ten, most runs for five yards,
and then they threw two more passes. Chris Jones knocked
one down and then they had to get rid of
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the ball, and I was like, just give it to Mostard,
Just give it to moster it and if he gets
five more yards or three more yards and the clock runs.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
This is this is a Kyle Shanahan trend here.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
And that's the difference between Jimy Garoppolo having his own
Super Bowl ring and Mahomes having one less Yeah, those
couple play calls.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, and being beaten by Jimmy Garoppolo and Tom Brady,
two former Patriots.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Kyle Shanahan, for as good as he is, seemingly gets
in his own way, sometimes in terms of his play calling,
when the easiest, most sensible solution is the right one,
and sometimes to the deficit of whatever team he's coaching,
has been incredibly costly, incredibly costly and that's just the
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way it's been for this for this forty nine ers team,
and frankly any team, Kyle Shanaan has been the offensive corner.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
More polls here for Seaton.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
Yeah, let's see, we could go with perception wise. This
one's a version of a poll question Todd had perception wise,
how important is tonight's game for the Lions? Extremely important
or not really at all?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
We know who they are.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Well, the second half of the Chicago game was incredibly poor.
You allowed a team that was dead and gone in
the first half to come back, and realistically, if they
don't absolutely self implode on the final thirty three seconds
of the game, you know that could have turned out
much differently.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
You were in the booth. What was going on in
the booth?
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
You were calling the game with Jason right.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, Jason Bennetti, who just by all means everybody is
a play by play god. Okay, It's sometimes I get
lost and just listening to him and I forget I
have to say something after he.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Has told everybody what he's talking. Yeah, yeah, And so.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
He's dead and he finally just looks at me and
he's like, how how Ryan, how does that happen, and
my answer was, like I they're the Bears. That was
my answer on live national radio following the play by
play God was simply to say that was the rep
or that was the Bears. What I saw, plain and simple,
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was a rookie quarterback that did not know where he was.
He didn't know the situation, He didn't know the down
and distance, he didn't know timeouts, he didn't know what
was going on. But for all of those things that exist,
your coach, who's on the sideline when twenty two seconds hits,
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because that's usually the line of demarcation for anything at
the end of game, when twenty two seconds hits, and
you see yourquarterback does not know where he's at, and
I don't know why. I don't know if you got
knocked in the head when he got pulled down on
that sack on that final play, or if he was
just you know, not seeing the bigger picture. As we
all know, we went and changed the play even and
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ran out of time. If you're mad at your plush,
you got to call time out at twenty two seconds,
because listen, you call time out there at least just
to look at your quarterback and say Hey, kyleb you
know where you're.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
At right, you know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What's a stake. You get him back, get him focused.
You could complete the next pass for a first down,
whether it's a short one and you can get up
there and spike it, or if it's a little bit longer,
takes a little more time. Your field goal unit knows
we don't have time out left. You have to be
ready to run out there, kick the game, time field goal,
send it to overtime. All these things. For all my
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misfortune and all my mistakes and everything like that, we
were talking about this before the game. From high school
until my final snap as an NFL quarterback, one of
the best things I did was time management. Like there
was never an example that you can look throughout my
career from college, high school to pros where I just
did not know the situation. And I think it's what
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makes me such a good play caller when I'm calling games,
is I just understand the bigger picture. A lot of
us who didn't excel at the game doesn't mean we
can't see it better like we see it expert wise.
We just couldn't execute it. That's why I think for me,
seeing somebody like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and the
guys that Patrick mahomes, what they do is so darn
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impressive because I'm like, I couldn't do that. I can
see how to do that, and I can tell you
how to do that, but then doing that as well
is what makes it makes it crazy. We're going to
get into all that and much more and a big
reason why you know, I'm wearing the Russell Wilson jersey.
You know, thanks Russ Dangerous sent me a home in
a way jersey to start this year because I don't
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know if anybody remembers, but I was the only guy
out there that said that this Fitzburgh Steelers team was
going to be special with Russ at the helm. But
when we come back, we're gonna listen to Lonos Brown,
Detroit Lions broadcaster, to break everything down right here. Seven
time Pro bowler Lowemus Brown is gonna join us and
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talk all about the Lions Packers game right here on
the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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Welcome back everybody to the Dan Patrick Show. I'm Ryan
Lee filling in for Dan today. A lot of football,
so much football?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Did you guys see that on Peacock Me? I mean,
how crazy were we seton? You got hung out a
I don't know, four story window in New York. I'm
trying to throw a ball across the avenue and there's
Andrew perlof McLevin got hit by traffic trying to what
were we thinking?
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And we're all about I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
You guys were all about fifteen pounds heavier and I'm
about fifty pounds heavier. I mean, just better did life
decisions now.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
By the crew? Okay, so all right, speaking of.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Better life decisions? Uh, Setan, what do we have on.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
The poll question for the first hour?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Yeah, right now, results pending, but we're gonna go with
those first two. Who would you rather see you win
the Super Bowl? Bills are Lions? And then also how
important is tonight's game for the Lions perception wise? Extremely
or not really at all?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Okay, all right, well we can probably get some answers
here from our next guest, Lomas Brown, seven time pro bowler,
legend for the Lions. He joins us now to talk
about the Lions Packers matchup Almas.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
How we doing today, Buddy.
Speaker 9 (18:40):
I'm doing great, Ryan, Ryan. You look good man. I'm like, wow,
you look good, Ryan.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, that'll happen when you had decide to have kids
in your in your fifties.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Uh, well almost so do you.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I mean, I mean, what was your plane weight, man,
you were probably low three hundreds.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Yeah, my first six I was three fifteen.
Speaker 9 (19:01):
My last twelve years in the league between two seventy
five and two eighty.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
So yeah, you're right about that.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I mean it goes to show when you see a
lot of those former NFL offensive linemen, I mean, to
keep that weight on, to stay that strong and physical
and be that you know, presence in the in the
trenches is huge.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 9 (19:25):
And you see a lot of these guys, man, you
see Joe Thomas and all these guys now and they've
dropped all that weight. But like you say, Ryan, is
just necessary to carry that weight while you're in the league.
Once you get out the league, man, let it go.
Let it go. If you're a big fellaw.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I couldn't get over on.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I was there Thursday in Detroit calling the game for
Westwood One, and I don't know if it was just me,
but the offensive line for the Detroit Lions seemingly feels
like they're giants. I mean, they're just tall, athletic. Don't
have like the dad bought offensive lineman either. It's just
it's rough and rugged. Speaking of that Thursday game, hadn't
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won a Thanksgiving game since twenty sixteen, was dominating first
half kickfield goals rather than got touchdowns against the Bears
team that is very good in the red zone defensively,
but then fell apart in this So what did you
see from that game, Lomus in terms of, hey, you
found a way to win it. But that second half
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was a trend of what the Lions have been around
this time of year every year for the last you know,
since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 9 (20:36):
Yeah, no, you're right about that, and that's how it's
going to be the rest of this season. And we
got divisional games left, like you say, the night with
Green Bay, and then we got Chicago coming again, and
we got Minnesota again.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
So all these games are gonna be this way. It
won't be. I don't think it's gonna be any more ballouts.
Speaker 9 (20:56):
I don't think you're gonna see us blowing teams out
like we did a few weeks back. I think all
these games are gonna be tough, competitive games because we
know each other so well.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
And like you.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
Said, with that Chicago game, man, it started off with
us moving the ball but not being able to put
up seven points when we need when we got in
the red zone, settling for three points and finding the way,
like you said, in the end, with some help from
Matt Eberfluts.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
I'll say it.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
He gave us a little help, but we were able
to overcome that, not going to overtime and win that game.
So again we can expect help like that from the
head coach. These are games we're gonna have to go
into from the start, and we're gonna have to be
able to finish these games.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
This football team has been transformed under Dan Campbell. And
thankful that the decision makers there in Detroit didn't get,
you know, an eachy trigger finger when things weren't going
right right away and you played during the time where
you had, you know, the best running back to maybe
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ever play, and you just couldn't seem to quite get
over the top.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
And it was the Lions.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
This is different. This team is actually the highest odds
to make the Super Bowl in the NFC, first time
ever in NFL history. What's it like to have seen
that change there in Detroit with Dan Campbell at the
helm and everybody follow suit, maybe slowly but surely, but
the fan base is followed. The team certainly had to
believe before anybody else.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Yeah, it's been great. It's been great to see it.
And just think about the job that not only.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Him, but Brad Holmes and Sheila hamp Ford. Just think
of the job they had to do. Because Ryan, they
had to change a whole culture. It wasn't just a
team and the organization. They had to change the whole
culture around the Detroit Lions. Because it was same old Lions.
The fans expected us to lose tight games or to
find a way to lose a game.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
You know.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
It was always yeah, they gonna get there, but they're
not gonna complete the job. Now it's so different now
with the influx of guys that we brought in. This
is a team. Now you have to be able to
fit being a Lion Now. It wasn't like that before
anybody could plete for the Lions. It's not like that anymore.
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And to be honest with you, who deserves it more
are the fans, because the fans have been suffering for
so long.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Ryan, it was thirty some years ago when I was
here the last time we.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
Went to you know, other than the last year when
we went to an NFC championship game, we've never been
to a super Bowl. We don't know what that's like.
So we've been suffering a long time. And like I say,
I feel so good for the fans around here because
they finally have something to really really cheer about.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
We're speaking with Lomas Brown, seven time pro bowler for
the Detroit Lions and the analyst on tonight's broadcast. This
Packers team a year ago on Thanksgiving, like this was
the same time about last year.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
They came in.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
No one expected them. I think they were sizeable underdog,
and Jordan Love and this Lion or this Packers team
found a way and then they kind of went on
a run that got them into a position into the playoffs.
What's this game like, you know, after the last week,
a full week off since Thanksgiving, what do you think
the most important thing for Detroit to stop this Lion?
(24:23):
To this This Packers team is going to be the.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
Biggest thing for us tonight is for us to stop
their run game. Stop Josh Jacobs. That's the biggest thing
we're going to have to do, because they want to
run the ball. That's their identity, just like it's the
idemity of the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
That's what we do.
Speaker 9 (24:42):
We established to run Jared Golf and all the rest
of the weapons, then they can do what they need
to do. Wants to run has been established. So us
with us being beat up on the D line, my
goodness line, our D line, they won't play tonight. So
we're really really so if I'm Green Bay, that's where
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I'm trying to attack the Detroit Lions with my inside
run game and see.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
How we hold up against that.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
So, to me, the biggest thing we're gonna have to
do defensively stop the run. The biggest thing offensively we're
going to have to do is put up seven points
when we get into red zone.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
We're going to have to outscore the green Bay Packers.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah, I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I Mean, you knew that the Bears weren't gonna score
in the first half last week. It just it was
not in the cards, so three points were okay, But
this is going to be a different story tonight. Lomas,
thank you so good to see you. Thanks for taking
time today and being a part of the show.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Ryan's good sting you. Thanks for having me, my man.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yes, sir Lomas Brown, everybody, seven time pro bowler for
the said Detroit Lions played against him when I was
with the Dallas Cowboys went up to Detroit playing against
Barry Sanders, who that was something special. But he's exactly right.
I mean, there is like the idea around and what
do you fear most? You know, do you fear the
two teams that are right behind you in the division
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or anybody outside the division? Because the NFC West and
the NFC East or the NFC's South, they're just they're
just fighting over each other at six and six or
so to get into the playoff and get a get
a first round playoff game. The Philadelphia Eagles they're a
different story.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
The Eagles had just won eight straight. Yeah, and they
cooled off a lot at the end of last season,
and a lot of people were down on them to
start this season. If you had to pick that game today,
Eagles Lions.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You know, this would not have been the answer that
I would have given probably two or three weeks ago.
But after seeing the Eagles dismantle I don't care how
close that score was last week against the Baltimore Ravens. Guys,
they dismantled Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
That was a beatdown. That was an early.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Onslaught of just accepting what was happening and then just
putting your foot down on the gas and driving through everything,
you know.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
And I was I was very.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Critical of.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Their head coach early on.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I was like, hey, you know, he seems to be
Nick Sirianni. Seems to be the liability on this football
team with some of the decisions. You recall the Jacksonville
Jaguars game, like he did everything in his power. I
felt like to find a way to lose that game,
and the defense and Nakobe Dean found a way to
win it, you know. And I was like, hey, do
they really need him? I mean, they got Kellen Moore,
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they got Vic Vangio, you know, And the answers for
most people were, Howie Roseman, it's his puppet, and so
how he needs him there to do what he needs
is bidding.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
For but then there's just this fight, this.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Continuation being beat up, injuries offensively, Davonte Smith being out,
A J. Brown being out. Yeah, Saquon Barkley, I mean
a running back position. For whatever it's worth, it depends
on what team you're on. Dude's been so special. He's
been the difference in this football team. He's allowed Jalen Hurts.
There's so much off the plate of Jalen Hurts this year.
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And then defensively they got in better. Those young guys
that maybe struggled a little bit last year trying to
find in their way, they drafted well. So I'm gonna
say it, if I had to pick a game right
now for the NFC Championship to get to the Super Bowl,
with the way the teams are playing right now, and
maybe Detroit can change my opinion after the Knight's performance.
Right now, it's the Philadelphia Eagles that that the performance
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against the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday was was one of
the most impressive performances I think I've seen from a
from a team that people were a little skeptical of,
for a team that a lot of people have a
ton of confidence in.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Holly is there a third best team. I mean there is,
but to you the third most threatening team in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
You know, I would have said the Atlanta Falcons about
five weeks ago. Four weeks ago, and they've just absolutely
turned tail and run. I'd be a little fearful of
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
At Tampa Bay is six and six. They've won two
in a row and they're the only team in the
NFC South that's outscored their opponents this year. They had
a lot of close losses in the first half of
the season.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, I mean, Baker Mayfield is an absolute stud. I
mean that team, that team would that team would walk
through traffic, like five o'clock traffic in l A. They're
walking through it for Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
You know, you know they're.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
They're they're forced to go to a bachelorette party on
a on a Sunday and in the fall.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Uh, they're doing that for Baker Mayfield. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
they're totally doing.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
That kid's birthday party whatever thet party, kids birthday party
doesn't matter. Like this, this team would would bend over
backwards for him. They're they're willing to jump on the
lawsuit to sue his dad too. There's they're they're they're
all in it. They're all in it everybody. It's it
has been uh that that's the team in the NFC.
The Packers of course, Uh, the Vikings. The Vikings just
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find ways to win. Kevin O'Connell, he's got it down.
He figures out ways to win. That defense with Brian Flores,
they do some fun thing. I mean, I think the
NFC is going to be very interesting this year, very
interesting a f C two. But the Detroit Lions has
been the best team Jared got for me, was the
MVP for a long time. I think probably stepped off
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that MVP bus when the five interception game happened.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Though.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
They found a way to win, and then he came
back and turned around through like five touchdowns the next week,
So he knows how to overcome, that's for sure. Ironically,
it would be completely unbelievable if what Sean McVay did
to exile him to Detroit, to bring in Matthew Stafford
to win a super Bowl, to then watch Jared Goff
ultimately win a super Bowl in Detroit where it's never
happened before, where Matthew Stafford couldn't do it. I mean,
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I think that would be an incredible thirty for thirty everybody, Marvin.
Speaker 10 (30:34):
If the Lions win the Super Bowl, who gets a statue?
Dan Campbell or Jared Goff?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Oh one statue?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Oh that's Dan Campbell.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's got to give it to coach because he because
he you know, he referenced fighting kneecaps, and I think
if you're in Detroit, Jared hasn't said much. Jared is like,
you know, very stoic and just kind of goes about
his business. And then you go to Dan and Dan's like, yeah,
I'm I'm you know, I'm the waiter at Applebee's. I'm
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freaking biting kneecaps, I'm doing all this stuff seating.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Yeah, it really feels like he is the identity of
that team and everybody has bought in one hundred percent.
You know, there is no question who the figure ahead
is there and who the guy is.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So I'm on the field last week pregame and I
walk up to Jared and I talked to Jared a
little bit, and then I'm walking around and talk to
Am and Ross Saint Brown, and then I see the
offensive lineman, I talk to Piney sewell, and I see
these giants, but guess what, there's even a bigger giant
standing right in the middle of him, walking around talking
each one of them.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Its Dan camp Does he lift before the game and
he gets a pumped on me? He looks like he might.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
He looks like he does, but I think that he's
I think that's just natural Dan. I think it's natural Dan.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Okay, you guys talked you guys. I agree with you
that if there is a statue for the Lions as
Dan Campbell, any chance you could have co statues like
they did in Philadelphia. It's Doug Peterson and Nick Foles
together calling that Philly special play. That's the statue off
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Well, there would have to be some sort of corrop
rating play or something that existed between Dan and Jared.
I think that that would have to be the corroborating
statue otherwise, otherwise, right now it's it's it's Dan Campbell
and Dan Campbell.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Is there anything more weird in sports? That Nick Foles
has a statue outside of stadium? Is that the weirdest
thing in sports? If I said it ten years ago,
why falls?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Well, I think as a fan yes, as a former
quarterback and having watched him from Arizona stuff, I'm like,
I always I always knew he was capable of something
like that, but the running, so it's not and it's
not it's not super foreign for me.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
It's weird.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Well, he he has the weirdest pro career.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
All.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I love that twenty five touchdown two interception season. Yeah,
then it didn't work out for a while. Then Carson
Wentz gets hurt and he leads him to a super
Bowl in the season they thought was over.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I mean, the show just goes to show, you know,
any player who gets it to the NFL the quarterback level,
is capable of doing that if they make a run
and they have a team behind him, like they had
that year in Philly. And so I love it. I
absolutely love it for Nick Foles. I recruited him when
I was coaching in college. Uh he you know, initially
went to Michigan State before he got went to Arizona.
(33:04):
And he's from a little on not a little one.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
He's from a very you know.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Uh, he's from Austin Westlake in uh in Austin, Texas,
where Drew Brees went as well. Very Uh quarterback heavy.
All Right, we gotta go because when we come back,
we're gonna all right, we're gonna jump into some here.
There's some random football questions gonna be coming my way
from very random, very random. All right, all right, we'll
find out here. Thanks for listening to everybody. You're listening
(33:29):
to the Dan Patrick Shoan. Rianley filling in.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
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Speaker 2 (33:41):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Play of the day.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
God, this is no play on the day.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Check this out.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Ten seconds left, he'll shoot the three.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
It's no good.
Speaker 11 (33:57):
It's been She's determined change, courage, Jane Strength, and Jake When,
Jane When, Jane When.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
And dorm four in.
Speaker 10 (34:13):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Welcome back everybody to the Dan Patrick Show. I'm Ryan
Lee fillin it for Dan today that there's a play
of the day. That was the final call of Creighton
upsetting number one ranked Kansas last night.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Creighton has a tendency to do this thing.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Last year, they won their last two games against the
number one ranked team. They defeated top ranked Connecticut last
year not only defeated him, they beat him by twenty
points eighty five sixty six.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Last February. Listen to this.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Number one, number two, and number five Kansas, Auburn, Marquette
all lost Wednesday. This is the first time in the
regular season that three top five teams have lost all
in the same day since February twenty sixth. Twenty twenty
two went all like one through six loss by the
way on that day, that's that's a crazy stat in itself.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
There you have it. That is the play of the day.
College basketball. We talked about that pre show. There's a
little there's a little.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I don't know, there's been a rebirth a little bit,
not as much three points shooting, a little more fundamental technique.
Guy actually puts a finger up, they're going to run
a back pick or something like that.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
And really, you guys feel that when you're watching that,
it feels more like traditional basketball than NBA, where it's
it feels like it's mostly threes and then some post play.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yes, because I also think there's such a difference in
what college football has become in the eyes of a
lot of people, and for whatever reason, anil still exists
in college basketball people. Yet for some reason, no one's
really talking about it, like it's this huge underlying facet
that college football has become.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
That's changed a little bit for me, Marvin.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
I think the big thing is that college football, they
have to be there for at least three years so
you get to know them, or they start to switch schools.
Guys like Cooper Flag and Ace Bailey, the big time recruit.
Good point, they're only there for six months and avery
there for the full school year.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
The idea that you are more used to as a
basketball fan of college basketball players as limited as it is,
you know, it may not be a four year type
of thing. It may not be that mindset probably.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
And I think that's what's helped the women's game the
past five years, especially that Juju Watkins is not going anywhere.
She's just gonna be a superstar in college for a
long long time. Caitlyn Clark felt like she was their
seven years page.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Buker's just yeah, it's like so Sabrina and Escu at Oregon.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
You know, it's storylines repeat from year to year. You
don't have like when I tuned in, there was a
big slate of college basketball last night, and I was
watching Kansas Creighton and I had to learn the names
of the players on Kansas because you know, you can't
follow it. It just changes so fast.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, I couldn't. I'm going to Cooper Flags the only one.
And I think it's just because you reminded me of
it today, I realistically couldn't give you. I might give
you be a We'll give you a Washington No, I
went to a Washington State game the other night, but
I still don't have that for you. All right, pull
up date here seating before we go.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Yeah, we'd grab you a quick update. Okay, we've got
two of them working right now based off of tonight's game,
well kind of perception wise. How important is tonight's game
for the Lions extremely or not at all? That's fifty
to fifty. It's a pretty good pole question.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I think they're probably hedging their bets a little bit.
Their Lions fans is like, you know, yeah, you know,
it's not that big a deal, not that big deal.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Who would you rather see win the Super Bowl? Bills
are Lions? Right now? Lions have sixty percent of that vote.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Interesting, I'm Bill's I love the Lions. I'd love to
see Jared Goff do it. I'd hate to see them
play each other. This is like a HARBA super Bowl, Like,
I don't want to see that again.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I know them both, I love them both. I don't
want them to have to do that. I can't imagine
what their parents were going through.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
I don't know, man, it kind of sounds like the
most ideal matchup I've ever heard of.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, well, of course it is. I don't want to
this is Hey, don't forget, this is all about me,
all right. So let's go to something here. This was
brought up before the show, and I thought this is
very interesting. Random random football questions from the dan Ets
to myself. Here, is there any order we want to
start in? Mister you pass, Let's go seat in O'Connor.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
What did the Panthers do with Bryce Young?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
He's your first round pick from a year ago, you
got a brand new coach, you benched him after four
or five games, forcefully by an owner, and then he's
come back and realistically won you the game last week
on a comeback. So he's your quarterback for the future.
If you don't see that, then you are delusional to
what you think can happen moving forward, Polly.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
I'm gonna go off season. Sam Darnold's twenty seven, Russell
Wilson is thirty six. They'll both be complete free agents.
Who is more valuable or who will be more desired.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
In the free agency market, Ironically the thirty six year
old because of his experience, and if they are able
to go deep into the playoffs or even put themselves
in a position to go to a super Bowl, it's
going to be Russell Wilson. He's going to be able
to demand some top dollar. In reference to Sam Donald,
all he has unless the Minnesota Vikings his forms of
(39:17):
success that ultimately end, in the eyes of a lot
of people, failure. And he's only twenty seven years old,
but he's been you know, he's been the youngest guy
in the room forever. Like I think he was drafted
at fourteen, So it's not like that for me is
going to be overwhelming. If he's good enough for the
Vikings to get to an NFC championship game, he's good
enough to be your starting quarterback in Minnesota. Hey, I
(39:40):
know you just drafted JB. McCarthy, but guess what he's
also on a rookie deal. This is an opportunity still
to have two great quarterbacks because something you pointed out
to me, you could pay Sam Donald a reasonable amount
of money to be your starting quarterback and still have
JJ McCarthy on a rookie deal, and you have an
unbelievable quarterback room. So don't poop poo that idea out there,
Vikings fan, That's a real thing that could be the case.
(40:02):
Don't poopoo here, don't we don't poopoo here, Fritzy.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
Albert Reer was on the show recently and Dan and
all of us were surprised when he said it. Seven
to ten coaches could possibly lose their job by Black Monday.
How many coaches should be worried that they're going to
be gone.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
By years in?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Every coach should be worried. Every coach, every coach should
be worried. This is Super Bowl time. The Chiefs own it.
If you're not doing something that inch closer to get
to that, you better be looking behind you because they're
going to need These owners are going to want O
winn a championship, so they're gonna move by it.
Speaker 10 (40:30):
Marvin, who should the Bears hire as their next head
coach Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Wow, Wow, that's my next head coach. Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
He coached Caleb. He understands what it's going to look like.
He can do the same thing that he's done with
James Daniels in Washington. And if your Bears fans, I
don't know, you just find a great defensive coordinator, but
you need to be offensive special with the weapons that
you have. All right, second hour coming up, Derwin James
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