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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Final Hour on this Thursday. There's somebody who
thinks it's going to be a disaster in chape O Hill.
Stuart Mandel from the Athletic will join us coming up.
He did not mince words on this decision to bring
in Bill Belichick. Belichick will meet with the local media
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your phone calls. Eight seven to seven three DP show.
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Rams at the nine, the Niners are giving three and
it feels like it's must win situation coming up tonight.
West Virginia quietly bringing back Rich Rodriguez. He had quite
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a renaissance at Jacksonville State. I didn't even know it
was a school until I'm flipping through a couple of
years ago and I go jack State. Well, I don't
know what jack State is or where it is, but
I'll start watching. Next thing I know, there's Rich Rodriguez,
and I go dang. He went from West Virginia to Michigan,
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to Arizona, Hawaii, a couple other stops, and then Jacksonville State.
Now back at West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Also, UNLV has hired Dan Mullen, a former Florida head coach.
All Right, he did a good job in the media,
saw him on a couple of games. Thought he did
a really good job, had a nice personality there at
the Mothership. But he's taking over at UNLV. All right, Seaton,
Let's clean up the pole questions from previous hours, and
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what's the final hour pole question going to be?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
This is a funny tweet from Nicole Auerback. She said,
twelve months from now, Bill Belichick will be covered in mayonnaise.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Or eating a pop chart.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
That's so much.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
In almost every circumstance except for college football, that would
make no sense. But it makes perfect sense in college football. Gosh,
that funny. So let's see we have up there right now,
Bill Belichick's tenure in North Carolina will be widely successful
or a complete disaster. That's holding strong at about sixty
four percent that it'll be a complete disaster. I'm not
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sure how I feel about that, all right? Also, is
it widely successful, wildly successful, or either? Right now, wildly
successful has about seventy percent of that mode.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Great, yeah, great, glad, we thought we got that cleared up.
These are important things. Okay, these are these are very
very final hour.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Poll question is going to be what uh I think
we're going to put up there? Uh, Todd has one
here about the prestigious NBA Cup. He's got a real
problem with you. Oh I'm really sure why, Todd. I'll
let you deliver your poll question.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Okay, who wins the prestigious NBA Cup, Bucks, Hawks, Rockets,
Thunder doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I just love it.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
It's the Cup.
Speaker 8 (03:31):
He's snunty.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I think I think you're mocking the Cup.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Well, I started with who wins the prestigious Yeah, oh yeah,
just where I was going.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
Hey, it is the Cup, though it may not be
the Cup.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
We're think, I think you're being sarcastic.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Well, you got the Stanley Cup and right behind that
the NBA Cup. Is it almost neck and neck if
you think about.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Eight seven to seven three DP show email address Dpadanpatrick
dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. By the way,
the NCAA president Charlie Baker, he was with us a
couple of weeks ago and I kind of pushed him
on March Madness expansion and I said, you know, where
are we gone. You had some coaches, former coaches Jim
Beaheim said, oh, we're going to go to ninety six.
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I said, we're not going to ninety six, not anytime soon.
And Charlie Baker says, there's room to expand to seventy
six teams. And he doubled down on that yesterday brought
that up. But he told that to us. That was
November thirteenth where he said they are going to expand
or get ready for the room to expand to seventy
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six schools. Here's also something my college football source who's
been awesome this morning with background information on Belichick in
North Carolina says the following SEC in Big Ten, realizing
that they're going to get slots without guarantees because they
might have language where the SEC and Big ten are
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guaranteed two spots, but they already know they're probably going
to get two spots anyway, so you don't want to
be arguing for that. Here is what my source says
that this is next season. As early as next season,
the most practical solution for the twelve team playoff would
be a true final rankings to determine the matchups, so
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the four highest ranked teams will get a buy. This
isn't about conference championships. Conference championships get you in, That
doesn't mean you get a first round by this is
what I've been saying. I think it makes the most sense. Plus,
everybody's going to be excited about the rankings. So when
the reveal happens, you already know that Boise State is
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in and Arizona States. You already know kind of who's in.
The only team we didn't know was is Alabama inter SMU.
So there's no real drama there. But if you say,
here are the final rankings, so you know the first
four got buys, now you look at everybody else and
now you get your brackets. Now you get a better
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TV show for the Mothership, and of course that's what
it's about, a great TV show. That's probably what's going
to happen. I think that makes more sense if you
win your conference. Also, if you go back when they
first started this, this is when the PAC twelve was
still in existence, so they were saying, you're going to
have schools from the SEC Big ten, ACC PAC twelve
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get in. Guaranteed there would be at least all conferences
were going to be represented. Well, USC UCLA were going
to the Big ten, but they were still going to
keep the PAC twelve in the playoffs. PAC twelve dissolves.
Now all of a sudden, you've said, if you win
your conference. So now Boise State is in, they win
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their conference, Arizona State they get a first round by
as well. That's why this is going to change, and
probably change as early as next year. All right, let's
see some phone calls in here as well. Let's see
anything else that I need to mention. This first hour,
final hour of the program, I knee deep in Bill
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Belichick and people are like, what do you? Why do
you this love fest for Bill Belichick? I don't even
know him. I think I'm just being respectful, is all
I am. I got to My only interaction with him
was he was kind of asking me to get out
of the way so he could say LO to Tony Dungee.
I don't think that makes us friends, but I don't
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bet against him as all. I think he's going into
this with eyes wide open, wallet wide open, as far
as the NIL transfer port all of those things. And
I'll go back to what my source said earlier. The
thing to keep an eye on is the financial commitment,
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and my source said, in addition to staffing, it will
become clear that the school is increasing its NIL commitment
more than five hundred percent. So Belichick was pursued by
the chair of the board of trustees, so he was
pursued by North Carolina. My source goes on to say, overall,
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North Carolina is comfortable taking these steps as part of
a broader strategy to build Slash, retro fit itself to
be ready as a perspective sec or Big ten member.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
So there's a.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Bigger play here. But you know, that's just some of
the information that I got. My source goes on to say,
saying that Belichick not familiar with the transfer portal, in
NIL is lappable. The opportunity here to build an entirely
new model for a unique time in a business that
is unstable as it's ever been, and their NIL money
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will be at the top level.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
You shouldn't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So that's according to my source this morning, Ed in Massachusetts. Hi,
Edwar's on your mind today.
Speaker 9 (09:00):
Definitely all into the COP this year. Two well question
and hot take possibly okay, question is how much money
just with all TV coverage is North Carolina going to
get next year? And somehow they need to get a
game against Colorado that would be good watching TV.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Probably too late for that.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I think that the schedules as far as out of conference,
those are already secured. But unless they create something start
this season. But I don't know if Dion goes yeah,
I'll do it, or Bill Belichick's going to I mean,
if I'm Belichick, you're opening up with TCU, you want
to make sure you're opening up with a win. But yeah,
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those schedules done in advance. Certainly out of conference, yes, PAULI.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
As of right now, Like you said, Dan, all contracts
could be broken in college football, but right now, UNC
place place TCU Charlotte, Richmond, U see it the first
big ones again. They have Clemson on the schedule, but
they don't have a lot of toughies neck. They got
Duke Stanford, Virginia, cal NC State, Syracuse, wake Forest. Not
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a lot of hammers. There some good teams, but not hammers.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
And they're already bull eligible this year going to the
Fenway Bull so the over under six and a half.
They're expecting Carolina to be a bull eligible next year.
A couple of phone calls in here, Red in Georgia, Hey,
Redwood's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (10:30):
How's it going? That is the pleasure to talk to
you again. It been like what maybe three years.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Welcome back, Danny.
Speaker 10 (10:39):
I'm surprised that ain't nobody reported to you good as
calls that you have throughout the country. How schef the
stoach or Chapel bill thing, and that's big to me.
Good as y'all is the shift that y'all always give
him critic and y'all always say it. Maul gives him
all the praisers in the world on the damn Picture Show.
(11:00):
So why haven't no one gave you that information?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
He had well read I did see it that Schefty
had his tweet that said Chapel Bill and then said
Belichick is taking the Carolina John. You know, maybe Schefty
was told that, thought it was cute and then put
it on his tweet. It's okay. People have borrowed things
from this show for decades. Now, well I stop now, Yes, Marvin,
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have they given it back though, no, they don't. He
just stole it.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I mean we gave Tom Brady, Tom Pabay.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
He never gave it back even after he left, tried
to sue us, send a damn cease and desist letter.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
No, I'm not a litigious person.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
If Schefty needs it, dress it up a little bit,
you know, being an insider kind of boring. You don't
get to show your personality. So if this helps schefty
little personality there, good for him.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Yes, Todd, I hate to say it, but it is
within the realm of possibility that he did not hear it,
or it wasn't told to him at it and he
thought of it and he said, wow, look what I
just came up with.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Well, so you're defending Chefty.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
I think it's possible that it wasn't stolen. And he
came up with it too, and the first side.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Are you which team? Are you on Team Chefty or
Team Dan?
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I am on team Dan, and I was the one
that came up with Chapel Bill, So I'd like to
think that. So that's all the more reason why you
think I would be on our team. But it is
possible that he thought he came up with it and
had never heard it before.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
This is a well listened to show.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
It's very well listen, and you would think the odds
would be that someone told him that we said it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I think somebody said, hey, you know what about chapel Bill,
and Chefty goes yeah, and then tweeted it out.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
O mean it.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
God.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I would have never thought it's not the most creative.
Speaker 11 (12:44):
I would have never thought of taking the h and
making it a bee.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I would have never thought of that groundbreaking stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But a million years we didn't hear it until we
said it. Let's get the item on it, Pauline, the
origin of Chapel Bill. If somebody brought up apple bill,
I want to shout them out and give them credit.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Thirty for thirty.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
I have one little tidbit on UNC's schedule for next year.
They do not as a caller set have to play Miami,
Florida State, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Louisville, or SMU. They
dodge a lot of bullets there. However, UNC plays at
Boston College in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Oh, twenty twenty eight. Nobody cares. All right, Todd, do
you have something else to add to this?
Speaker 9 (13:27):
Now?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
I'm wondering if we come up with, like blue Belichick
is not going to be stolen too, because the whole
light blue thing with North Carolina is that something that
others would roll with us?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Nier, I'll let them steal that one. Blue Belichick, Yeah,
I'll let them steal go Blue a chick. Yeah. Chapel
chapel bills is nice.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Come to think of it, it probably was stolen. Come on, Chiefty,
you're better than that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Just say we asked Shefty to come on. We just
want to ask him this question. Nothing else.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
He's busy.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
He's got phones in both ears and dangling from he
can't copt dangling.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
I don't know if phones dangled anymore. DoD it probably
don't mixed the cord.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Anybody have a house phone, You got a housephone. I'm
not surprised thinking.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
About getting rid of it, but we still do have
the home phone, no Seaton.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I have a house phone, but it's over the internet.
I don't know if that still counts, but I do
have a number.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I have a house phone, but it's not hooked up.
I mean it's not connected, but it's there on the wall.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
I can antique.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, yeah, it's Orange house phone. And I said to
my wife, I said, why don't we take that off?
She goes, well, no, then you got to repair the
whole wall. So we have a housephone.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yes, we only keep the number.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
And actually, now that I think about this, it's kind
of crazy that we actually pay monthly just to keep
it for this reason. But it used to be the uh,
the writer Arthur Miller. He was like married to Marilyn Monroe.
He wrote, He's like death of a salesman. I think, yeah, anyway,
he was very famous. Is his old phone number. And
we occasionally get phone calls from family members who don't
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realize that they're calling the wrong number, and so we'll
get interesting voicemails.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
And Arthur Miller's been dead for a long long time.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
He's been dead for a very long time, but they're
calling what they think is his house in Connecticut looking
for other family members, and that it'll be like, Julia, Julia,
is this Julia, I'm trying to read you about the holidays,
but no one is getting back to me Julia. And
Julia is like Arthur Miller's like granddaughter or something, and
she's married to Daniel d Lewis right, So it's like, oh, man,
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this is like an interesting story.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
We might as well keep this what Todd And.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
I think Arthur Miller went to Abraham Lincoln High School
in Brooklyn, New York, which is.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Where I went, because I myself, you think, or.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
I'm quite sure. I think he's on the list of
a lot of luminaries that went to Lincoln High School.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
And you brought that up because because I just.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Wanted to be part of the conversation, I had nothing
to do with anything.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Okay, I mention Miller.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
I'm like, I got a little author Miller nugget for you.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
Yes, Paul death of a phone number. Now he was.
Arthur Miller died in two thousand and five. Passed away
nineteen years ago. He was married to Marilyn Monroe for
six years.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Over raided. Oh too soon, Maryland or Arthur Maryland. Oh Okay,
hold on, what if you.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
Look at Arthur Miller and he was wildly successful and famous,
but looks wise.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Monroe was married to Joe DiMaggio. He wasn't good looking.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
Well, but you're Joe Demajo. You don't have to be well.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Arthur Miller was famous as a playwright.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
But playwright famous in Yankee, but.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
She was an actress. The playwright put me in a
play that's.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Like a CBS sitcom Arthur Miller and uh, Marilyn Roe
like looks wise?
Speaker 9 (16:42):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
All right, have we exhausted all of this?
Speaker 12 (16:46):
Okay, Julia, I think Larry King went to Abraham Lincoln
High School.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Also did Sandy Kofax go to Abraham Lincoln High School?
Speaker 7 (16:54):
So nice Jewish boy, but I think he went somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Are you sure that Kofax didn't go to Lincoln High School?
Speaker 7 (16:59):
I'm not sure. I have to look, but I don't
think you.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Can look right now. Cofax went to Lincoln High School?
I thought he and Larry King went to the same
high school. Didn't Larry King say they went to the
same high school?
Speaker 7 (17:15):
Todd Sandy Kopax went to Lafayette High School?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Okay, where did Larry King go. Okay, how about I
take a break.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
Neil Diamond went to Abraham lincol High School.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
I got a scholarship from Carl Larry King International High
School at Lafayette.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
That's the same thing that would bette?
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Is that the same thing as Lafayet High School and
Brooklyn Internet.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Did Marv Albert go to Lafayette High School? Yes? Did
he go to Lincoln High School?
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Yes? He did? Okay, and he went he went to
my high school and my college more. Oh my gosh,
how exciting is that? How about he went to Syracuse and.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Went How about we have him ahon so you can
interrupt him again? Okay, take a break.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
When we come back.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Stuart Mandel from the Athletic He says, congratulations, North Carolina,
you managed to hire someone completely unqualified to be your
next head coach. His column doesn't get any nicer after that.
He'll join us coming up right after this. Fox Sports
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West Virginia president he used to be at Ohio State,
Gordon Gee back in two thousand and nine, had the
following quote, I'll say it again, over my dead body,
mark that down. We will not have a playoff in
this era period. Still alive, isn't he? Yes, Just want
to make sure set over his dead body. I'm not
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going to have a playoff. We'll have modifications to this
year's playoff, probably coming up next year. Stuart Mandel, senior
college football writer for The Athletic, co host of the
Audible podcast. Your column was on fire. In fact, I'm
picking it up. It's a little warm here, Stuart, from
what you had to say about Bill Belichick. You start
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out by saying, congratulations, North Carolina. You managed to hire
somebody completely unqualified to be your next football coach. You
did that thing so many schools do when they try
to win the press conference instead of win football games.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
It rarely works.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
All right, fill in the details of how you came
to this conclusion.
Speaker 13 (19:42):
Well, Dan I've been covering college football for twenty five years.
I have seen time and again NFL coaches come into
college pledging to kind of reinvent the wheel run an
NFL program at the college level. It's never worked. The
only guy that I've seen, and he was wildly successful,
was Pete Carroll. That was not because of anything he
(20:02):
had done in the NFL. He was a maniacal recruiter
who surrounded himself with other maniacal recruiters. Bill Belichick has
never recruited a day in his life, so I think
that he's right. I think he said college is more
like the NFL than it ever has been, and he's
right about that in terms of the portal and nil
and these teams are hiring salary cap experts now, but
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recruiting is still the lifeblood of the sport. And then
I think another key element the two things Nick Saban
was so good at recruiting and motivation, and you know
in the NFL that's not really a part of it.
Their their motivation is the is their livelihood. You're talking
about eighteen to twenty two year old kids who, if
you know, you've seen it all this season, right, Guys
who just don't show up for a game sometimes, And
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you know, I think those are skills that are very
unique to college. I don't know that, you know, for
all the great things he's done as a football coach,
he hasn't had to do those things before.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
But is in free agency transfer portal?
Speaker 13 (20:58):
Yeah, free agency is the trans portal. But we've yet
to see a program build itself entirely off the transfer portal.
You can do it, you know, Dion did it to
basically purge the roster for a year. But now even
he is, you know, building it with high school kids
for the long term. So I don't doubt he could
come come in. There's gonna be a lot of buzz.
There's gonna be guys who absolutely want to come play
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for the six time Super Bowl champion. And that can
work for a year, But how do you build a
long term program. I just don't think you can build
a long term program solely off We're going to do
the salary cap, We're going to get the best free agents.
At the end of the day, you still have to
you know, ask a college coach what they spend a
lot of time doing. It's dming high school kids with
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little smiley face emojis, come check out our campus, like
that's a big part of it.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, but a lot of these coaches will pass that
on to their assistant coaches. So if you have your
offensive coordinator, your quarterbacks coach, they're going to be dming
the quarterback. Bill Belichick can get on a zoom call
talk to the kid and his family. I think we're
underestimating Belichick's desire to prove that he can do this,
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that he is as researched as any coach in the
history of sports has ever. He just doesn't walk into
something and go, oh my gosh, wait a minute, I've
got to do this, or the collective is going to
have money there. I think he's going to defer. Lombardy
is going to be his GM, He'll bring in some
of his other assistant coaches. It just feels like this
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is you know, Belichick loves getting into the weeds and
doing this stuff, or at least that's the feeling I get.
I never underestimate him, even in a situation like this.
Speaker 13 (22:41):
I definitely got the sense he has spent the year
preparing for this. We've heard about this three hundred page
bible that he sends his pat McFee interview. He came
off very prepared, There's no question about it, and I'll
be curious to see who he hires. I mean, you
mentioned Lombardi also not a colleg If he brings in
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some really good, you know, experienced college recruiters, that will
definitely help. But if the idea is we're going to
just move the New England NFL franchise to Chapel Hill,
you know, I don't I don't know if that, you
definitely need to have some guys who have a lot
of experience at the college level.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, this is what Dion needed to do. I said,
Dion's not a great coach. Dion is a great CEO.
He's a great brand. He brought in and a pretty
impressive staff, and I think that was important because and
this may be, you know, Belichick's going to just coach.
He goes into every game having an advantage of being
a better coach than the guy across from the field.
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The question is what kind of talent level can you
bring in? And that will be the big challenge. I mean,
the over under six and a half wins next season,
and that doesn't look.
Speaker 13 (23:47):
Like eon Dion's biggest thing. Well, not his biggest thing,
but one of the biggest things is he got to
bring in his son. Yes, it might be the first
quarterback drafted, and Travis Hunter, who might be the number
one pick.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Well, if I gave you Belichick with Shador, Sanders and
Travis would be a great you would have that would
be ten wins or would be a disappointment. Is Dion
staying at Colorado no matter what happened? If Shador is
now the number one pick, the Raiders have the number
one pick, is de I'm going to stay at Colorado.
Speaker 13 (24:17):
I get the sense he's committed to stay Colorado next year.
He loves it there. He feels like he's building something.
But college football now is year to year, you know,
is he nobody could predict? Is he going to be
there for five years? I think he'll be there coach
in twenty twenty five and we'll see beyond that.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You look at this format here, Stuart, then it's twelve teams. Now.
I didn't like where Arizona State and Boise State were
automatically placed in with these first round buys. What is
your solution if you think there should be a solution
to the twelve team playoff?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Next year.
Speaker 13 (24:48):
I think it's a good format in general, and I'm
fine with rewarding conference champions with an automatic berth. But
to your point, I don't think you should be manipulating
the seedings so that the Arizona State's the number twelve
team in the country and they're getting the number four seed,
and Texas is the number three team in the country
and they're getting the five seed. I mean, I think
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just you know, Arizona State would not have gotten in
without winning its conference championship. To me, that's reward enough. Now, well,
I don't think anything will change for next season, but
the year after that is a entirely new contract where
the Big ten and SEC can basically dictate the terms.
And I'm sure we will see at the very least
the end of the buys for everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I would love to see the rankings are going to
determine that. It's just like March Madness. You get in,
that doesn't mean you get a first round buy. So
this would be the top twelve teams. You get in,
you win your conference, you're in. Now we look at
the top twelve with rankings, and imagine that reveal show
on the Mothership that we're looking at the rankings. You know,
(25:53):
it's not Hey, that team's in, but where is Boise
State playing or Arizona State playing? The first four teams
get you know, first round byes, then it could be
a lot more interesting here and more of a TV show.
So I think that's where we're headed. I don't know
if it'll be next year, maybe, you know, a year
after that. If Ryan Day loses to Tennessee finish that sentence, he.
Speaker 13 (26:17):
Might he might not make it back to his house
that night. I mean, that's the one scenario everybody, Oh,
they're going to fire him, not only the only time.
The only way that becomes into play in my mind
is if he loses that first round game, because think
about that. His last two games home games will have
been an inexcusable lost to Michigan. Any first round loss
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with a team that was expected to at least play
for the national championship, that's, you know, that's going to
be a very if that's the case, a very miserable offseason.
I don't you know whether they fire him or not.
I just can't imagine Ryan Day would want to come
back into that environment.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Before I let you go, we just had a member
of the audience ask about Pete Carroll. Has anybody reached
down to Peak Carol if they're reaching out to Bill Belichick,
is Pete does he have any interest in coaching again?
Speaker 13 (27:06):
They should reach out to him because he was an
amazing college football coach, right And frankly, I don't think
it's enough appreciation for the fact that he's really the
only guy I've seen to win at a high level
in both at both college and the NFL. Is he
interested in coming back to college. I've not heard anything
to indicate that there's also not really jobs open right
now that I would think would interest him. We're going
(27:29):
to see probably next cycle next year, a bunch of
SEC jobs open, possibly Big ten. You know, it's amazing
to me that Belichick's going to have all places North Carolina.
You know, you would think it would have had to
be one of the blue bloods that would get him.
And that's really what I think intrigues everybody so much
about this that of all places UNC UNC Football.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Good to talk to you again, Thank you, Stuart.
Speaker 13 (27:53):
Thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Stuart Mandel, senior college football writer for The Athletic, co
host of audible podcast What People Didn't think like Tom
Brady's going to go to Tampa. Well, he went to
Tampa because he knew that they were kind of a
sleeping giant. We've heard North Carolina football is a sleeping
giant for decades. And maybe he looks at this and says, hey,
you know this is the place. What are the expectation level?
(28:17):
If you're Ohio State? Now this is crazy. If you're
Ohio State and you knew Bill Belichick was going to go,
would want a coach in college? If you had any
doubts about Ryan Day, would you have reached out to
Bill Belichick to see if he would be interested. I
know that it's wild to think that way, but I'm
(28:40):
just wondering these other colleges. Is anybody, any athletic director
or chancellor or president.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Going Why didn't we reach out to him?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I don't know, just something that came up. Jim and Omaha,
Hi Jim? What's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Dan?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
First time caller six ' one two ten, I just
uh got a got a good name for Bill, Bill.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
On the Hill.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Bill on the Hill, Well, I still like Fritzy's Champel
Champel Bill Mark in Indiana? Hi Mark, what's on your
mind today.
Speaker 14 (29:14):
Hey Dan, A long time, first time six. When I
heard about the whole Mark Gasmo situation, I was reminded
a little bit of a an article I read in
Sports Illustrated a few years back. It was an article
about uh retired lineman from the Pittsburgh Steelers, and obviously,
(29:37):
back in his playing date he was a monster of
a man two eighty five, and the reason he was
in Sports Illustrated ten years later was that he'd dropped
one hundred pounds. He had uh uh just completed his
first New York City marathon and I was just struck.
You know, the guy had a new a new challenge,
(29:58):
a new body. He had moved on. And and that's
the Mark gas No thing. It's just sad to me
that guess No hasn't moved on.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Well, you know, I can't blame him. This is who
he is, this is his identity, and we don't know
how important these moments are to these players. Players want
to move on from something bad. He had the sack
record for the single season, and all of a sudden
he watches this right in front of him. Farv takes
(30:28):
a dive and Michael Strahan gets his record. Now We
don't know at the time. He certainly didn't act or
react that way that he was bothered by it. He
hugged Michael Strahan on the sideline, and then we find
out twenty two years later it still hurts. I'm not
(30:50):
gonna leave. He probably watches the NFL. Maybe he doesn't
even watch anymore, where he'll see TJ. Watt get twenty
two and a half sacks. Hey, you're playing in more games.
There's more passive tempts, more opportunity. Whatever it is, this
is Mark Gastono's identity. Yeah, Marv.
Speaker 12 (31:09):
Was that record a big deal before Strahan started approaching it? Like,
did most people know that Mark Gastona was a single
season sack record holder?
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Okay, and he held it for a long time, and
then all of a sudden there was the hey, is
he going to get close to Gaston's record? Oh, he
can break gaston O's record. He breaks Gaston's record. I
don't know if it was that big a deal when TJ.
Watt got to tying Michael Strahan's record.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Yeah, Pauline, people always find it easy for other people
to move on from things. Yea, why the hat can't
he or she just move on from things. But when
it's you who's been slighted or screwed over, it's a
little tougher.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Like my wife said, for a decade, move on from
the ESPN. I'm like, nope, move on. No, I'm going
to hold a grudge.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
Armsfold it.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
They don't care, I don't care. I care.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Then I think one day I go, you know, I'm
gonna move on from this ESPN grudge. I'm good. She goes,
you won. I just said, I know, but I want
them to admit they lost. And she goes, oh my god.
I said, yeah, I know, I know. Just a little
competitive there.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Let's take a break here, Oh, come back, last call
for phone calls, what we learn, what's in store tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Here's a weird stat.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I don't know why I'm bringing this up other than
they are playing tonight. The Rams have scored forty or
more points in eighty one games in NFL history. Only
two teams have scored more had more games where they
scored forty or more points. Both scored forty or more
(33:03):
points eighty two times in their franchise history. The Rams
have scored forty or more points eighty one times. Yes, Todd,
the Cowboys and the Steelers. No, see O'Connor, it's not
the Cowboys, No Marvin forty nine, the Raiders, No Paul Chiefs, Readers,
(33:30):
Chiefs Packers, Chiefs, Packers. Stead of the day, the best
stead of the day, stat of the day.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Here comes, Here comes that? What stat of the day?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Oregon quarterback Dylan Gabriel on the program tomorrow. Troy Aikman
was on the fan in Dallas, and he had this
to say about his favorite player of all time.
Speaker 15 (33:59):
I've not seen my quarterbacks play better than him when
they've when they've gone undefeated. I mean, this guy, he,
without question, is my favorite quarterback in the NFL, maybe
my favorite favorite player of all time for that matter.
I just I love everything about him, especially in today's NFL,
where you just don't see these types of players.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Okay, stop it right there.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Troy Aikman is speaking about who Todd, Josh Allen, Seaton,
uh Jingdan, Marvin, Patrick Mahomes, Paul Josh.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Allen, Joe Burrow Man crush.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Joe Burrow his favorite player of all time, all time,
all time. T Roy Aikman. Wow with the man crush
there call for Troy Aikman.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Let's do that all right, Thank you, Todd, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Kevin in Oregon, by the way, just giving you guys
a head heads up, Dan Edge, we're going to write
tomorrow's headline today for the Thursday nine.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Game, just right now.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yes, you know this is happening. You hate doing this.
Kevin in Oregon. Hi, Kevin, how are we doing?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Guys?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Great?
Speaker 16 (35:09):
First time, long time.
Speaker 14 (35:10):
It's six four to forty.
Speaker 16 (35:13):
You know, I was just a little disappointed that nobody
knew it was Estelle Costanza who says, oh my god,
that was her iconic line, and you guys put it
in the play of the day, and I was very disappointed.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
So I just had to.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Call, oh, well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yes, set Well, that's an interesting take from Kevin because
I text Bob, the guy who made it, yeah, and
he said, it's some random caller from the Phil Hendry
Show that I always found very funny.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
It has nothing to do with uh, well, Bob put
it together. So Bob is the.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Person who made it, Yeah, he is, And he was
just like, ah, No, it's just some random thing that
I thought was really funny.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Oh, it's definitely not Susan Waldman or or Estelle getting or.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Stell getting still getting Susan Wallat hold me. Oh my god, John,
my God, John, Roger Clemons and George Stein.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Brennan's blocks announced that he is.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Back wild this day in sports history, God, and then
we will write tomorrow's headline.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Today.
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Nineteen seventy six, Joe Namath played his last game with
the New York Jets. Nineteen eighty one, Wayne Gretzy got
to fifty goals in a season after only thirty nine games.
It's kind of nuts.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Um oh.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
Former Cowboy Nate Newton and two others were arrested with
charge of carry at least blank pounds of marijuana in
a van. Guess how many pounds of marijuana?
Speaker 11 (36:38):
What is one hundred and ten higher? Literally higher? No,
pun two hundred and fifty lower? Got one bucks seventy five?
Speaker 13 (36:50):
Right, right?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
And it's always Nate Newton and two others. They never
mentioned the two others. They're just Nate Newton and two others.
How about this one.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
It's a lot of Week.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Lebron James made his ESPN debut in two thousand and
two high school game They Beat Okill. He had thirty one,
thirteen and six for Saint Vincent Saint Mary's forfics.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Let's right. Tomorrow's headline today, Todd don't start with you.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
I'm gonna go with his cup runneth over. Cooper helps
knock up Niners.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, okay, seemed to go cup a couple of times here, right?
Speaker 7 (37:31):
Did I go?
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Did I use that reasoning? I think you've gone cup
a couple of times?
Speaker 7 (37:34):
This cup running over?
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Yeah? I gun? Uh Seaton Tomorrow's headline too.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
That's actually why I love this bit so much, as
is essentially the same jokes for the last seventeen years.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
We just packaged it in a new way.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, how about with playoffs on the line?
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Rams win?
Speaker 8 (37:53):
That's funny.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
Get right to the point. Why not? It doesn't have
to be cute.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Marvin Tomorrow's headline today.
Speaker 12 (38:01):
That's my ballpunk debo bullies the Rams Like Deebo in
the Friday he said that's my bike punk. Now I
feel like Fritzy.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
It's a good it's solid wrung wrung room. Maybe it's
a good Paul Tomorrow's headlines.
Speaker 8 (38:17):
I hate to say this because I like this guy.
Pukah nikoua Okay grands wide receiver drops game winning touchdown.
It's not nice. I love that guy. Why would I
do that?
Speaker 4 (38:29):
M Dan Pukah, do you have a headline? No, I
don't do it. Oh see you?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Oh no, I'm the host it No, no, no, I'm
the host.
Speaker 7 (38:41):
That's very weak.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Thank you to cup Checked Cooper.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
Can't heard that one before.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, that's new. Jerry in Texas. Hi, Jerry went on
your mind?
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Hi damn? Yeah about this Bill Belichick and you and
see who's the biggest booster of un and see I'll
throw that out to the floor.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Well, I would think it would be Michael Jordan.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
Oh, how many five star recruits are Bill Belichick going
to sign? Pulling up to a house's stretched limo with
Michael Jordan and toe, Well.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I don't know if Mike's gonna take that much time
to be pulling up in a limo. I don't think
coaches do that anymore.
Speaker 12 (39:21):
I don't think Belichick's going to anyone's houses either.
Speaker 9 (39:23):
That.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Excuse me. It's not a limo, it's a stretch limo.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think we do limos anymore.
Speaker 11 (39:30):
And I don't know that Bill Belichick and Michael Jordan
are getting in a car Togo anywhere together. I don't think, certainly,
not a recruits house. I don't care how many stars
you put.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, Mike might help out, but I don't think he's
gonna go door to door. Uh, there's a there's a Tommy.
There's a gentleman here who says the name is Mike,
and a guy named Mel.
Speaker 11 (39:49):
I think Mike is gonna look at say, you know
how I helped out. You see that logo on the
front of all your jerseys.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
That's what I did. That's how I You're welcome. Let's
go around the room. What we learned of the program? Todd,
you learn anything tonight I did?
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Seaton rightfully points out Bill Belichick is a lot more
chatty and comfortable speaking with other football guys, not some
reporter with a notebook.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
It is true that he does, you know, talk down
to reporters.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
But if there's Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Pat McAfee, he'll
speak to them.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
It's a great point, all right, Seaton. Stuart Mandel's throwing
fire in.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, yeah, he didn't back off Bill Belichick. Not going
to be successful. Not good, Marvin the legend, rich Rod
is coming home. Yeah to West Virginia class in nineteen
ninety six. Really happy about that.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
We get Dana involved and just Dane like, yeah, have
them formed like Voltron together vult Trump.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Well we learned.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
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