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Dan reacts to the Falcons benching QB Kirk Cousins and wonders if Kirk be in Atlanta next year. Hall of Famer Charles Barkley discusses his future on television and tells us that he's spoken to Amazon and NBC about joining their team. And Hall of Fame QB Steve Young shares his evaluation of 49ers QB Brock Purdy. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our one on this Wednesday, Dan and the dan Ets,
Dan Patrick show fully loaded seatons back, Fritzie of course,
the Minister of Humor, Marvin and Paulie in the front row,
the Brgs in yours truly, Charles Barkley coming up next hour,
and we'll talk to Hall of Famer Steve Young. The
Bucks beat the Thunder. It's the Cup and it's over

(00:26):
the Bucks over the Thunder. They dominate them ninety seven
eighty one. It doesn't happen very often that the Thunder
don't score one hundred points. But give credit to the Bucks.
They played well. They've kind of righted the ship here
with Dame and Giannis, and maybe they'll be one of
the teams to beat come playoff time. The big news, though,
the Falcons benched Kirk Cousins. Michael Pennix Junior third will

(00:48):
get his first start a home game against the Giants.
I understand it. I said that they should do it.
I thought they should have done it two weeks ago.
But they let Kirk Cousins almost play his out of
this position, and they make the decision to bring in
Michael Pennix and I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Maybe he's not ready. We're gonna find out.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Though.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
It helps with a softer landing at home against the Giants,
which I like that strategy as well. But Kirk Cousins
played his way out of a starting role and maybe
playing his way out of Atlanta. Bigger picture, you got
three games to go and you're a game behind Tampa,
and you decide to bench the guy that you brought
in because you needed somebody who was better than Desmond Ritter,

(01:34):
who could help this team a lot of talent make
the playoffs, and they were going as scripted. Then all
of a sudden the last five weeks and he's getting
benched after a win. Granted they scored fifteen points against
the Raiders, they held on to win fifteen to nine,
but Michael Pennix, and by the way, Michael Pennix is
it Michael Vick he's a pocket passer. Just to let

(01:57):
people know who maybe don't remember seeing him when he
was at Washington or Indiana. He is a pocket passer.
So it's not like, oh, he gives you a change
of pays that Kirk didn't have. Well, he's got to
be more mobile than Kirk. I might be Kirk's thirty six,
thirty seven years of age. And now you start to
extrapolate and go all right, bigger picture, here are they

(02:18):
going to move on from Kirk Cousins. Well, let's see
how Michael Pennix plays, because you can look at best case,
worst case scenario. You bench Kirk Cousins, and if Michael
Pennix doesn't play well, now you have a problem. But
if Michael Pennix plays well, you still have a problem
with that salary cap. You know that dead cap money.

(02:42):
I'm probably gonna get hit with forty million dollars. This
isn't quite as bad as Russell Wilson, but you know,
the Falcons will probably try to get out from underneath
this contract.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
What are the numbers, PAULI.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Kirk Cousins was paid already sixty two million for this season.
If they cut him at any point in the offseason,
they owe him twenty seven million for the following season.
But then it's over, so that it would be over
after this upcoming.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Year, and you'd have Pennix on that rookie deal since
he's a first first round pick, so you've got him
for five years. Here depending on if you bring somebody
else in, can you keep Kirk Cousins on the roster.
So there's a lot of things that play here in
the final three games, and I think the tough game
they have of the three they got the Commanders. Tampa

(03:28):
doesn't have a tough stretch with their three games, and.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
They're playing really well.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Buccaneers are a dangerous team right now with the way
they've played. Atlanta not so much. But I agree I
would have brought in Michael Pennix. Now I'm surprised with
three games to go and you're bringing in a rookie.
That surprised me a little bit that they would make
that decision, but I agree with it. I would put
him in. Let's see what you get. Sometimes just having

(03:55):
somebody different in there and you know, in the huddle,
throwing the ball, whatever it might be, it's just, hey,
let's just get let's just try, because you know what
you're getting with Kirk here. One touchdown pass and nine
interceptions in the last five games. That's bengeable. Now, if

(04:17):
you had somebody like Andy Dalton, I think they would
have made this decision. Maybe a week ago, maybe two
weeks ago. You got Michael Pennings junior and you're going
to put him now. He played playoff football at Washington
so and he's been with two different schools and he's
you know, played for national championship. So you know, there's
a lot of great things with him, and I do

(04:38):
like him. I didn't like that they made the decision
to draft him. If you were going to bring in Kirk,
Cousins said that at the time, I think they stole him,
if you want to use that in quotations. I think
the Raiders were going to take him and they decided,
you know what, Kirk's going to be our quarterback for
two years and then we get our quarterback after that. Well,
they've sped up the process here because Kirk has not

(05:00):
played well. But the big news with the Falcons as
they go into this game with the Giants.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
The Bucks win the Cup.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
The commissioner, Adam Silver did meet with a small group
of reporters talking about the sport moving forward. There was
talk about the three point line. He seems to be
content where the game is and he said, yes, ratings
are down, but ratings for cable TV are down.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Streaming numbers.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I don't follow that, but I'm sure, he's all over
that and probably likes the impressions they're getting on social media.
But it feels like this is like late night TV,
because it used to be you stayed up and you
watch Johnny Carson or Letterman Lenno. Now you just get
a clip that you'll see the next morning. And that

(05:51):
feels like that's what the NBA is becoming. It's just
a viral clip that you'll see the next day. You
might not stay up and watch the entire game half
of the game. I don't know how much you watched
the Cup last night. And maybe the NBA is fine
with that. Hey, it's just look at this highlight here,
a couple of highlights here. But Adam Silver seemed content,

(06:12):
I guess that, and I don't know if he'd use
that word, but it sounded like that with his comments
of where the game is and where the game is going.
And they're still trying to figure out this All Star
game and now like Kevin Durant says, let's go back
to East versus West, Well, you guys did that and
you screwed it up. So there is no fix for

(06:32):
the All Star Game. They're trying to change a format
here and you're going to have the young players playing
and the Friday night and if you win, and then
you're involved, and then now there's four teams involved in
the All Star Game.

Speaker 7 (06:46):
Yes, there's like one fundamental flaw in everything with the
All Star Game and fixing it, and that you're trying
to make something matter that doesn't matter. There's no reason
for the All Star Game to matter. It's just supposed
to be fun. It's just supposed to be like, hey,
look at this fun exhibition that they're doing. There's no
reason for it to be that important.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well, they're trying to just so it doesn't become I
don't even know how to describe it, where it's just
sort of making a mockery of the All Star Game
that it's it's not even basketball. It's just sort of
a pickup game that's televised.

Speaker 7 (07:23):
Basketball isn't even really basketball now the All Star Game
is even less basketball.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, I just don't know if we care if it's fixable.
Slammed on contest, I'm not interested. I'll watch the three
point shooting contest. I've been saying for a long time.
I would have former players with a current player. I'd
have del Curry with Steph Curry. I'd have Steve Kerr
with Steph Curry, you know, if you wanted to do that,

(07:49):
or Klay Thompson, not his dad, Michael Thompson, but you
get Ray Allen shoots threes. That to me would be fun.
If you want to incorporate the WNBA, that's fun as well,
as long as the NBA players are fine with that
because they have more to lose if they lose the
shooting contest. But you want to put Sabrina out there,

(08:10):
Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
It's ratings gold.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
But you know, the NBA has to look at are
you developing your stars. The biggest names in the sport
are still Lebron, Steph and Kadi. That's a big issue
because if I look at the NFL, well maybe that's
not even fair with the NFL. Looking at baseball, you
know your biggest names Otani, Aaron Judge. You're going to

(08:37):
put Wan Soto in there, so he's younger. You got
to have young stars. Anthony Edwards has all the makings
of a young star. Wembin Yama has all the makings
of being a big star, but they're not there yet. Steph,
Katie Lebron still there, and I think as you grow

(08:57):
your league, you want another generation to grow with those
superstars or potential superstars. That to me, that would be
front burner stuff of how do we get these You know,
they have to be part of the everyday vernacular where
you're asking about them, you're talking about them, and maybe
it's not fair to compare them to Steph, Katie and Lebron.

(09:18):
Those are three of the top ten fifteen players of
all time and personalities, and I think that's what you're
trying to get. You want relevancy, and I think that's
part of the NBA's.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Problem with me. It's not really relevant.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Sometimes they tried to create this the NBA Cup and Okay,
what hey, they're playing for extra money. That doesn't excite me.
Hey they're really caring about them and that doesn't excite me.
Then we wait till Christmas. But then the NFL just
big footage on Christmas. You got bull games coming up.

(09:56):
These are actual bull games that mean something. See, this
is where you got it. There's only so much room
and you gotta find your place. You gotta find your
space on the mantle where you go. Wait a minute,
where are you gonna put us now you they're playing
you know, Bowl games on Friday night. It's all the
way through here into January, so it's pretty tough. And

(10:18):
then you've got playoff football with the NBA. Then you
got March Madness, So you're really trying to carve out
your little piece of the pie here.

Speaker 7 (10:26):
Yes, how much of it is stars being developed or
stars just happen? I mean like that, like there wasn't
a big game plan to let's create Michael Jordan. He
sort of happened, right, steph happened.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (10:45):
I'm trying to think of who the league, how do
they elevate people into being stars? Or are you just
waiting for another start to drop in your lap?

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Well, Jalen Brunson, it feels like they're trying to make
him more of a star. With the Nicks, Anthony Edwards,
it feels like should be John Morant, you know, kind
of screwed up his timeline. Zion what's Zion Williamson?

Speaker 6 (11:11):
Like?

Speaker 4 (11:12):
What is he?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Who is he?

Speaker 2 (11:14):
The fact that you can trade for a guy that
we thought, oh my gosh, he's the next Charles Berkley,
He's not.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
So I that's that's the hard part of really.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Like baseball has Paul's schemes, They've They've done a great
job in being able to showcase him. Now, granted he
has to be great, be different, And I see what
you're saying, Like Lebron and Katie and Steph are all unique,
but who is that next guy? Like Joker is unique,
I just don't think he's must see TV. Even Luca.

(11:45):
Like Luca, Luca and Djokits, they're passing is what I
love to watch.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
They can both score, but they.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Can get fifty and it's not like you go, damn,
did you see you can get fifty and then you
can get fifty.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
Yes, you don't think jok It is musty TV?

Speaker 4 (12:02):
No, really, no, he does to me.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
He does for me, okay for me, But I don't
think like if I'm twenty two years of age eighteen sixteen,
I go, I'm watching Anthony Edwards or John Morant or
somebody who does something that you don't normally see. And Joker,
as wonderful as he is, I just don't think. You go, hey,

(12:25):
I'll got to tune in to watch him. I usually
catch up with what he's doing because there'll be highlights.
Then I'll go look at the box score and I'll go,
oh damn, he's the MVP.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
He's the best player in basketball.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
Yes, but I thought he'd be your cup of tea
because he has a real Bill Walton type of game.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Within No, No, I once again, I'm I'm take me
out of the equation. Yes, because I'm hell. I watch
the Wizards so well, I do, and the Hornets.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
You got an issue?

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I do? I do, Yes, Pauline, But the.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Joker is to be appreciated. He's like going to an art gallery.
You appreciate what he does. It may not be pure
entertainment like the highlights, don't play on Sports Center and
play on social media, but his game is to be appreciated.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, because you'll watch him and he'll make a highlight
and it's usually a pass, I mean.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
A rebound and a base full court baseball pass to
somebody who dunks it.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Now, now baseball has gotten to the point where it's
a strikeout or home run, and so those are clips.
You don't have to watch a game. You can get
they'll download you and say, oh, they had fifteen strikeouts
and this guy hit three home runs. Now that's Baseball.
By the way, Baseball had a study I think they
I don't know how long the study was, but they realized,

(13:41):
if you throw really hard, there's a better chance that
you'll hurt your arm. I could have saved them some
money just saying it was like a sixty page document
that said if you throw harder that you have a
better chance of hurting your arm.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
Yes, Paul, So if you drive faster, you're more likely
to get in a car accident.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
All the same people, or get a ticket, You get
it more likely to get a ticket.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
I went, Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
All right, we're just getting started. We're all over the place.
College bull season is underway. Oh is it ever? You've
got a couple of games tonight, the Boca Ratone Bull
and the Art of Sport La Bull brought to you
by Gronk.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yes, ton Oh.

Speaker 8 (14:33):
Yeah, I heard that they're gonna do something very pop
tart related where a big Matza guy comes out and
then the winning team gets to eat pieces of the MATSA.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
Is that true with the Boca ratone Ball?

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Maybe an awful rumor are you profiling maybe a little bit?

Speaker 8 (14:44):
You are a lot of my fellow Jewish friends, like
to go to live in Boka to retire. So I
thought maybe they'd have Jewish concessions. Maybe a little g
filter fish, pomato lock is something nice, Okay, little chucolate honika.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Gilt, the littlechoucolate money.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
We all love that.

Speaker 8 (14:56):
Everybody knows that, okay, But.

Speaker 7 (15:02):
A giant dradle in the got the thought planning the
flag is like, oh, they're spitting the drad on on
the logo.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
You can't do that.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
Where else would you do that? But the boker.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
That's what you do.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
If you don't do it there, you're never gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Can you can you plant the hanukka candles?

Speaker 6 (15:19):
I think you can. You can put a little aura
in the middle there.

Speaker 8 (15:21):
And some of the players want to whar yamaka is
instead of helmets, which is very dangerous. That is not
going to be good for brain protection.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
I suggest you were an actual help bringing.

Speaker 6 (15:30):
Out the oil.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Let's get it out. Somebody's getting snipped. Oh wow, a
brisk Yeah, that's it. Halftime.

Speaker 8 (15:40):
Yeah, for those who don't know the oil does the
little snip snip of the little cutting of the of
the little boys, little pecker region.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Little pecker region, keeping suggestive.

Speaker 7 (15:55):
Let's take a break the LPR, as Moiles call it, Yeah,
the little little peck. Yes, yeah, I work primarily in
the LPI.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
It's a circumcision basically, that's what's going on.

Speaker 8 (16:06):
That's the word. I was looking for a circumcise at
the poker Atona Ball Live at halftime, it's take there
a line up, all the boy all the little boys
that were just born.

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Speaker 2 (17:23):
Hall of Famer Charles Barkley Turners Sports Inside the NBA
analyst back on the program, how are you feeling?

Speaker 4 (17:31):
I'm great, brother, happy, Hannukah, Merry Christmas, all that good stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Did you make any money in Vegas?

Speaker 4 (17:39):
I want a little bit. I had a great trip.
I didn't lose money, but I want a little bit,
so it was good.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
What is your game?

Speaker 4 (17:47):
I played black jack?

Speaker 3 (17:49):
How much pert hand?

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Twenty five thousand?

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Okay? And how many hands do you have in front
of you?

Speaker 4 (18:00):
One hand? Unless I want to break up the deck
and I play two? Okay?

Speaker 3 (18:06):
You don't get like, could you just do one hundred
dollars and be happy?

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Hell no, Hell no, no, I could not be happy.
I'd be unhappy.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Okay, So we've been talking about the NBA. The commissioners
talk about the NBA. Seems like he's okay, ratings are
declining a little bit. Uh, you got the NBA Cup.
I don't know what that did for the interest of
the game.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
We start to look at this and I'm wondering, does
the NBA have to do something like Major League Baseball's
doing things where they got the bases bigger where I mean,
that commissioner is trying to do different things. Should Adam
Silver be looking at that same model?

Speaker 4 (18:52):
I think we have to do something. You know, Dan,
last time I was on your show, you asked me
a great use and you said, is it low management
or just too many threes? And I said, it's really
a combination of both. And you know, anytime old guys
like I said something, we're hating on the young guys.
But I watched the Warriors. I was in the sportsbook

(19:15):
all day Sunday. I get with me and the guys
got up and watched football all day and in one
of the games I watched the Warriors play. The Warriors
played the Mavericks. It's one of the worst games I've seen.

(19:35):
They just I think it was one forty one thirty.
They just went up and down the court and shot
threes like and I was like, man, this is awful
to watch if you're just gonna have a three point
shooting contest every night. So I think we got to
figure out something because the most important thing of the
game is the fans, and if they're not watching, you

(20:00):
can't keep your head in the sand. You guys say,
what are we doing wrong? And like I say, it's
frustrated for me because all it is now the three
point shooting contests and a free throw contest, and I
don't like it. And you know, like I say, they
can get mad, but I don't want to go see
a three point shooting contest every night. That ain't no fun.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
What if we capped the number of threes that you
can take? Each team gets twenty five attempts, you know, I.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Mean, I'm open for any suggestion. I mean, but like
I say, we don't have to do something. I mean,
ratings are down, down, down, And that's like I said,
that fans are the most important aspects of the game.
We need the fans to be successful. You know, it's

(20:51):
like it's like the All Star Game with throwing just
stuff at the wall. We got a new model this.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Year, and what do you think of that model?

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Well, I want to do anything to help the game, Dan.
I saw Kevin Durant rip the new format. Dan, I
don't know what you do, because what we've done the
last X amount of years is not working, is not fun.
So I've always suggested we do the United States against
the World. I think that would be fantastic.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
I do.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
I think it'd be fantastic. I don't know how this
thing gonna turn out this year, but listen, let's be
honest with what we're doing. What we've done the last
few years is not working, playing and simple.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
And it used to be that we kind of christened
the NBA season at Christmas. That's when that's when the
season started. Just the fact that that seemed to be
the logic is flawed, Like you don't really get excited
about a game in October November, it's like, wait till
Christmas Day. Well, now the NFL just came in and said, hey,
We're going to take over Christmas from you, NBA, and

(22:02):
that's difficult. That's tough for them because it felt like
they owned that day.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
I've you know, the best ratings we've ever had. What
a year we got. It went on strike down and
started on Christmas. I think we need to consider, seriously
consider starting at Christmas because you get caught because listen,
you're wasting your time going up against the NFL and
college football. They own the weekends now. But if I

(22:33):
think if we started at Christmas, we'd have all the calendar.
There's no other sports I mean that we'd have to
compete with. If we started at Christmas, college football would
be over. Pro football is winding down. We have the
entire calendar late December, January, February, March, April, May, June.

(22:54):
To ourself, I think it's something we need to really
consider playing and simple because listen, NFL King Kong and
you know, and they're greedy pigs. You know. First of all,
I think what they're doing now is gonna come back
to bout them in the ass. Because to make the
Candisaity Chase Chiefs played three games in like ten days.

(23:16):
That's just stupid. I mean you got Patrick and Travis
and Chris Jones, you got those guys. Like to make
those guys play three games in ten days just because
it's popular and you sold it to different networks. That's
first of all, it's not safe. It's kind of the
same way. In my opinion, I'm really excited about this

(23:37):
college football playoff, but I think it's very dangerous. You
can't play as eighteen year old nineteen year old kids
to play twelve thirteen regular season games then play four
more games in the playoffs. I mean, because ninety nine
percent of those kids gonna have CTE or go and
hurt their bodies and they're never going to the NFL.

(24:01):
They've got to shorten this season because, like I said,
the teams will win this playoffs, gonna play four more
games than it used to be two if you won championship.
But now if you're gonna play four extra games the goal,
especially if you're in a conference like the Big Ten
or the SEC where you play so many tough games.
I'm really concerned about those kids' bodies and brains.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, but I don't know if college football really cares.
They're now kind of paid no Dan.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
The ind they nobody cares. They're making so much.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
They're adding an eighteenth game in the NFL. Everybody saws
the money. Yes, and that's what these players are gonna get.
In college. There's gonna be revenue sharing. They'll get more
money with this, and they'll sign up for this. And
you said, hey, the NBA should start on Christmas Day, Well,
you have these playoff games. Now this weekend college football
starts their playoffs. They're gonna wip They would wipe away

(24:51):
the NBA on Christmas Day because these games now matter,
and you're gonna have your bowl season going into January.
Then the NFL has playoffs. The NBA will get left
behind if but.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
It'll be a short, little lead behind. And first of all, listen,
let's let's kill these other balls. Let's stop these come on, man, like,
if you're gonna have the playoffs, you don't need.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Other bowls, Charles.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
This is because ESPN needs programming, that's all this is.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
I understand that why don't they show NBA games on
those days? And listen, man, and listen. I'm against I'm
fundamentally against guys bowing out of bowl games, but if
your bowl game means absolutely nothing, there's no reason for
you to play in a meaningless bowl game. If you

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if you don't make the playoffs, why would you play
on a bowl game? Does makes zero sense to me? Whatsoever?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Are you betting on the bowl games this weekend?

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Yeah? Probably? Of course.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Who do you like any upsets here?

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Well?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Name a game Tennessee, Ohio State. Oh I love Ohio State,
Notre Dame, Indiana, but hey.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
But them idiots, I had them plus nineteen and a half. Man,
I was, I was throwing stuff at my TV. I
was like, because you knew what was really scary about
that game. You knew in the first half they're not
gonna win by three touchdowns. And I was so pissed.
So I'm on bet on Ohio State one more time.

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Who else?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Notre Dame Indiana.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
I love Notre Dame. I know coach Sinnetti has had
a great season, but I want to meet Marcus Freeman.
I've never met him, and Notre Dame's on my bucket list.
Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Michigan. There are three stadiums
that on my bucket list. But I want to meet
Marcus Freeman. But I Notre Dame's gonna win that game.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
SMU Penn State.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
They're not gonna win it. Happy Valley, Dan, please stop.
They coach lastly, I got a chance to meet him
one time. I'm a big fan of him. In the
year he's had him and coach Dillingham have been fantastic
at ASU or they've done a fantastic job this year.
But SMU is not gonna win a Happy Valley.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Clemson Texas, now that is a really good game.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
I'm probably gonna go with Texas because they're playing at home.
But listen, whether you hate it or not, they got
some they got some good playoff games. So the committee,
you know, I don't think anybody had a gripe. I
don't think anybody had a real gripe this year. I
know Alabama think they had a gripe. Uh they did not.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
South Carolina probably had a better grape. They're probably the
hottest team in the country right now. But no, I
mean these you know, they got some serious big schools.
I mean, when you get Notre Dame, Tennessee, Ohio State, Texas,
when you get all these big schools, I mean, obviously Georgia,
it's fantastic. So if you like college football, which I

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love football in general. You got great powerhouses.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Talking to Charles Barky, Hall of Famer Turner Sports inside
the NBA analyst. Is your contract pushed over to ESPN's
from Turner?

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Is that official?

Speaker 4 (28:22):
I haven't decided yet.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
How about we decide now.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
I'm listening to NBC and Amazon. I want to know
everything that's on the table for me before I sign in.
I mean, I love those guys at the ESPN and
if we end up there, you know, I'm gonna do
the best I possibly can. But I want to know
first of all, they haven't even given us any type

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of schedule whatsoever. But I be doing myself for disservice,
not to meet with NBC, which I have, and meet
with Amazon, which I have, And the number one thing
I've told everybody, can y'all please give me a damn schedule?
I mean, because nobody knows anything. Dan, I mean, like
at least the tn T I always knew day this

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is our schedule, neither not not one of the three networks.
And like I say, I love ESPN, I got nothing
to gain, but I won't know how much I'm gonna
be working, or.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Mean, you're gonna be working a lot more than you
think you're gonna be working. I think, well, no, you
think I used to work there. I used to work there.
I know what they do.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Well, and I know what y'all's do. Y'alls is not
gonna be. They're not gonna work. Talks like no, damn
dog no, so so so seriously. Uh, like I said,
I got a number of love and respect for ESPN. Uh. Well,
like I said, but I'm taking my time with NBC
and Amazon. I I wanted in writing, Yes, how much
do y'all think I'm going to work? Because tn T

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is a perfect play to work.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Are you gonna work two nights a week?

Speaker 4 (30:03):
We don't even know anything?

Speaker 3 (30:05):
No, but what do you? You can tell them what
you want to do well.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
I want to know what they're expecting. Are we gonna
have the same schedule? Are we gonna have to do
a B, C, ESPN and T and T because tn
T I think they have they originally wanted to keep
doing something. So I'm not gonna be doing both. Yeah,
and then add and I'm not gonna be doing ABC,

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ESPN and tn T. That's not gonna happen. I'm listen,
Like I say, if we go to ESPN. I got
a number of love and respect for those guys, but
I'm not gonna do ABC, ESPN and T and T.
So I took my time meeting with the other two networks,
ay man, and I don't want to hear y'all talk

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to me. I want to know. I want it in writing.
I want it in writing. How much we're gonna work?

Speaker 2 (30:57):
What was this silly free throw shooting contest that Kenny
shoots left handed and steven A Smith gets to shoot right?

Speaker 4 (31:05):
What do you do well, Kenny, who wrote a check
as I ass couldn't cash and he tried to cover
it by in case stephen A beat him shooting left
handed and he lost, then that's it. But you know
stephen A does, he does a good job. I'll bet
the mothership and we got Like I say, man, I

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wish somebody would give me some clarity.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Then wait back to the free throw shooting.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
If Kenny shot straight up against steven A, Kenny was
an eighty three percent free throw shooter.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Yeah that was thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
You don't think Ken, you never come on, I go
out out of ten right now? You can hell, yes,
bet charity.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Charity?

Speaker 3 (31:52):
What do you want to bet?

Speaker 4 (31:53):
I bet your charity. You set it up, I'll come somewhere.
I donate twenty five thousand dollars to your favorite charity.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
You don't think I can make that eight out of
ten free throws?

Speaker 4 (32:05):
No? I don't. Oh my god, I just said twenty
five thousand dollars to your favorite charity. Right You'll be
gagging out there. You'll be like choking like a dog.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I know I'm a better free throw shooter than you are. Dan,
you shot seventy three percent for your career.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
That's embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Yeah, that's not good.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
No, but damn yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
You act like you're thirty five years old. You old.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
It's fifteen feet.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Dan, you're old.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
I know any sixty eight.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
You're seventy years old.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Do you know bird Bird could still make nine out
of ten free throws right now?

Speaker 11 (32:49):
And Bird is old. I'll bet him he can't make
it again, land Bird, Hey, I love lad Bird. He
can't make nine out of ten right now? This ain't
this ain't eight is a night.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
It's just riding a bike. That's all it is. That's
riding a bike. Okay, go back to the TV thing.
Were you going to say something like, getting some headlines
here I scheduled. Did I interrupt you?

Speaker 4 (33:19):
No? Okay, then then I.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Want to wag the dog. You wag the dog. You
got to two nights that you'll work.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
You wag the dog. I mean load management. You you
can be the Kawhi Leonard of TV analyst and you
do load management.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
But I'm gonna do what was best for the I've
always did was best for the network. And if you
go back and look at my.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
History, when you are tn T, you are ten.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Thank you for the count with the think about this Dan.
Anything tn T has asked me to do, they're like, hey,
what you do college basketball? I'm like, what a hept team.
I'm like, sure, I'll do it. Didn't get any money
for it. They said, hey, Chuck, what you'd earnly do
a podcast? I'm like, what a hepty team. Let's do
a podcast. I ain't not send the money. They said, hey,

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what you start doing these matches. I'm like, well a
hepty team, Sure, let's do it. I've never asked them
for an extra down for doing extra stuff. But if
they traded we we got traded to another network. I
want to know exactly what's going on, because, like I say,
I'm not gonna be doing five shows. I'm not gonna

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be working four days a week on any network, either
at NBC or Amazon. That's not gonna happen. I'm gonna
sit in my fat black ass at home if it
comes down, if they start telling, if they, like I said, Dan,
we work one day a week. I love our job,
I love the people I work for. I'm not gonna
go work in one day a week to four days
a week. That's that's not gonna happen. Now, when I

(35:02):
go to two, I probably could go to two. But
if people think that I'm gonna work three or four
days a week, they're freaking nuts.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
When you're gonna have to do college game Day, there'll
be a basketball show, there's gonna be a radio show.
You're gonna have to be on Greeni's Radio. Like, hey, Dan,
first Take, First Take, You'll have to be on first Take.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Let me tell you something. When you face time me,
then it'll be from Arizona. It won't be from anywhere else.
If people think I'm gonna work on all this stuff,
that's not gonna happen. Dan, you have my word, on
that I'm not gonna be working all the time. Every
time we do this, ay, going forward, every time you

(35:44):
FaceTime me, I'm gonna be at my backyard in Arizona,
on my pud and green at the tennis court. I'm
not gonna be working all the time. Dan, that's not
gonna happen. Man to man, Dad, you know, I got
a lot of love and respect for you. The notion
that I'm gonna work all the time, that's not just
it's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
No, I'm just telling you, and I'm telling you, Okay.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
I'm telling you. You can tell me, and first of all,
you are correct, and I'm telling you that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Okay, all right, I hope that it doesn't happen.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
So you have.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Why are you yelling at me?

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Hey, listen, Barck Obama, we don't have to keep hope alive.
I am not gonna be working all the time.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Dan, Okay, all right. On the why you're yelling, I'm
on your side.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
But because you think that they gonna just hey, we're
gonna work you all time. No you're not. No, you're not.
That's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Okay, all right, Okay, I said the same thing to
uh Jason Kelsey. I said, just protect yourself because there's
so many different programs platforms that they have to have
people on. And that's that's the only thing I would say.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Quality alike, Hey listen, and I you know, first of all,
I love Jason Kelsey. He is so such a wonderful dude.
And uh, I got it, And I got to get
back to him because he's doing a talk show now.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Oh yeah youah yeah, Friday night.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
So I think they got like, you know, he's gonna
be a late night Jimmy Fallon type guy.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Well, because I I he asked me to be on
the show. I got to get back to him because
I'm gonna try to make it work because I got
a lot of love and respect for him.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
I think you should go out there and your Philadelphia
seventy six ers uniform that you had when you play.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
You talk about skin tight back in the that was hot,
but let me, I wouldn't look so bad. You talk
about skin tight in the eighties, it ski skin tight tight.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Now I could actually see Larry's birds through his uniform.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
They would be so bad right now.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
There, John Stockton, how about John Stockton with the short shorts.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Oh yeah, they they'd be really short shorts if I
tried to put on letter.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Good to talk to you.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Thanks again, all right, bro, Merry Christmas and happy Honukua
to everybody. Bless y'all.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
All right, that's Charles Barkley.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Always a treat to have Steve Young on the show,
The Hall of Famer three times Super Bowl champ. Were
you ever benched? Like getting you know, Kirk Cousins getting benched?

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Now? Do you know what that feelings like?

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Well?

Speaker 6 (38:35):
I benched. I don't know. It doesn't really, it doesn't
ring a bell, Dan. I might have I might have
blocked it out.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Ok.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
I threw six interceptions as a tenth grader and JV
and the coach said that after the game, He's like,
you guys are the worst athletes in the world. And
who's he I mean, who's he really saying that too?
So I was like, I think that was that was
my biggest benching. I don't know if I can I
don't even know if I got benched after that, I
should have been Uh. I threw I threw five interceptions
at Georgia. When when I my first game at by U,

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and Lavell Edwards at halftimes like you'll be okay, you'll
be I'm like, no, I know I'm gonna be fine.
I mean I'll be great. He goes, no, you you
got really now you know? Now you maybe mad? Now
you got you got problems. You got to fix it fast.
And uh, but I didn't get benched there either, So
maybe I should have been benched a number of times Dan,
but somehow escaped the benching.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
What was your best game in high school?

Speaker 6 (39:27):
Best game in high school?

Speaker 4 (39:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
I mean I know I I used to I didn't
know how to throw the ball. I didn't I just
ran around, so uh we were running the wishbone and uh,
I mean I I remember a triple option. You know,
you make the first spake and everyone's like, pitch it,
and I'd keep it, you know, I was like, what
do you get?

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Pitch it?

Speaker 6 (39:48):
Like I asked, but it's the second option. Well, you know,
don't worry about it. But I don't know. There's some
there's some games running all over the place that were fun.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
But but you went to a passing school.

Speaker 6 (39:58):
I had this crazy dreamed and that I was going
to play in the NFL, and that I and if
I was going to play in the NFL, I had
to go put it somewhere where I throw the football
and even though I didn't know how to throw it correctly.
I remember my recruiting trip. I went to Army up
to West Point for a recruiting trip and they played
Pitt and My my senior year in high school, and

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Dan Reno was the rookie, you know, the first freshman quarterback.
I remember staying on the sidelines and Dan Reno threw
like a thirty yard bullet out right in front of
me like like that. I was like, oh, I got
some distancan cover here, because that whatever that is, it's
not what I'm doing right now. As a senior in

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high school, man, I got some. And that's why so ironic.
We went into a pro football hall theme together, and
I remember thinking back, that is full circle man. From
standing on the sidelins at West Point.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
I think Marino like he was ahead of the curve
in what he was doing.

Speaker 6 (40:54):
Oh, Dan, remember he'd hold it right here and just
shoo and I and I spent the next four years
of my life, I spent throwing the football from right here.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
My arm hurt.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
I couldn't throw any street, but I was gonna be
Dan Marino man, and there's only one guy that could
throw it like that.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Your thoughts on benching Kirk cousins from Michael Pennock Junior.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
Well, they've been They've been a little bit unconventional since
they've drafted Michael, so everyone didn't expect it. But in
many ways, he you know, there's such a desire to
get young, mobile quarterbacks. In the end, Kirk can't get
those yards that are out there in the game today.

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Remember when they changed the rules and they made defenders
they couldn't launch their bodies anymore. They essentially made the
game the field bigger. It's like a Canadian field now
if you think about it that way, the field just
got that much bigger in the NFL with that space.
It's that's why all these cool plays and all this innovation,
all this fun stuff. It's great. And so if you're
a quarterback that can't go get those yards, especially in

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the big games, and I'm talking about leaving the pocket
with your legs, calling plays out of the huddle like
the Bills do, and you know, Josh Allen walks into
the end zone. How how hard is it to throw
to score in the in the NFL in the red zone?
And the Bills just make it simple because he has
this ability now to use his legs, to use his mobility.
And if Kirk doesn't have that, now, Michael's not the

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most you know, look, he's not the most mobile guy,
but at least he can go get those yards. That
might be what they're thinking too.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Awkward quarterback situations. Vikings with Sam Darnold a good awkward.
The Jets situation of what do you do? Do you
want Rogers back? And if you're a new coach coming
in the Falcons is kind of awkward. If Pennix plays well,
what do you do with Kirk? If he doesn't play well,

(42:49):
it's awkward? Then I offer this one up. Let me
start with this the Niners quarterbacking situation with rock Perty
coming due? Is that an awkward quarterback situation decision?

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Well?

Speaker 6 (43:03):
Uh, you know, I mean it really comes down to
how you see the game today and what I just
describe to you in the difference between Kirk Cousins and
and and somebody that can move around, take the take
the yards. Do you If you don't have that ability
to extend and to push, you know, kind of from
your your athletic ability, just to push defenses backwards, you're

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gonna need more help. That's why Jared Goff last week,
h remember he ray scrambled once and everyone's like, oh
my gosh, it's like Josh Allen, you know, but so
he can't do it. It's not his game. So he
needs actually in the game today because what he's described
to you, you need more room and so you need
more help. And so when Josh gets it, help me
say it this way. If you have a series, a

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ten play series, they score a touchdown in those ten plays.
If it's Jared Goff, uh, you're gonna have ten plays
where you have to call out of the huddle generally
and have it work all the way down the field.
So that's hard to do. That's retail football. It is
hard to do. If you can do it, and you
can get really good at it, but it's just it's
got a degree of difficulty where Josh Allen on the

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same side of the other side of the ball. He'll
have a ten play drive and he'll score. But three
of the plays were off script and we're easy yards.
And you don't have to it doesn't have to be efficient,
doesn't have to be perfect, doesn't have to be timed up.
And so all of a sudden, it's seventy percent of
the time you got to play great football or or
tactical or efficient football, and the Lions have to do

(44:28):
one hundred percent. So you go back to brock Party.
He's got he's he's going to have to he needs
out of the huddle. That's his superpower call play run
it and uh and then matriculate down the field and
throw it into the end zone and uh or run
it in the end zone. So in many ways in
the game today you would say, look, I need I
want to make sure that I have plenty of help

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for brock Party, plenty of help for Jared Goff, plenty
of help for Kirk Cousins, and I need money to
do that. And so that's where the maybe the awkwardness
that you're talking about, what.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Do you want to spend sixty fifty five sixty million
you're gonna.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
Spend if look, I think that Dak Prescott the Cowboys
are going to suffer for a long time because they
paid him a number that now, in many ways takes
from the ability to build teams to go help you
for the very thing that you need. And so that's
the that's the dilemma, because I mean, we love everyone
loves Brock and loves his game and loves his efficiency

(45:24):
and his leadership and everything else. But we got to
make sure we have the money to put the people
with him to to go win it. Because if the
goal is super Bowls, if the goal is winning some
rank and file regular season games, maybe get to the playoffs,
that's a different goal and that might mean different. But
if you're talking about we want to go to the
super Bowl, we need people to be there to help

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Brock and if he doesn't, and so that it becomes
just how much is there available? And is a zero
sum game in some ways with a salary cap. And
I think, I mean, I look at how Tom Brady
thought about it, look at how Patrick Mahomes thinks about it, right,
and he says, hey, look, I'm cool, you get you know,
I got my money, but I wanted to have plenty

(46:06):
of money. And how many times did Tom every year say, look,
I'm going to recon restructure my want plenty of money
to get people that can come help me win Super Bowls.
And so I just with that mentality, he.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
Could all get worked out.

Speaker 6 (46:18):
If everybody says, oh, no, I want every last dollar
and I have to set the market, that's going to
be a complicated. There's the awkwardness that you just talked about.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
We'll go back to Dallas. Jerry Jones. You know, everybody
lodgs him as a great businessman. He has to know
what he's doing to the franchise by giving Dak Prescott
those numbers.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
Yeah, come on, man. For thirty years, I mean he
has not empowered anyone to walk into the locker room
and fire anybody. And so without that power, the court
a coach in the NFL is neutered. And you think
about why the Cowboys never reach their potential for thirty
years now, Why because they not empowered. So don't tell
me now that Jerry made a mistake by paying back

(47:03):
then like like he got You could see that he
waited and waited and got desperate. Right at the end,
It's like, okay, let's capitulate this even starting pay them. Well, okay,
but now what have we done. We've again, we've you know,
over we've over corrected for something that we should have
kind of held the line on. And so to me

(47:23):
holding accountability in the Cowboys system. Remember I've always said
ever there's America's team account. There's something about the team
that they show up and they're famous. And I've said
before you should take the stars off the helmet. And
you have to win ten games to get one star,
and you have to win a playoff game to get
the other star. And now you're now you've heard it yourself.

(47:43):
You're not You're not special, You're not you know, And
I don't know. There's something really missing with the Cowboys,
and it's been missing for a long time. Number One,
get a coach that can walk into the locker room
and fire somebody without asking Jerry, that's got to happen yesterday.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
You have two MVPs regular season? Yes, okay, where are they?

Speaker 4 (48:05):
Do you get to go?

Speaker 6 (48:05):
Do you get a thing? What do you mean you get?
I mean, yeah, I got it. I don't know they're around,
I don't know, they're not the house. My kids, I
refuse to burden my kids with you know, whatever it was?

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Wait, you know so if I walk in your house,
I wouldn't know what you did for a living.

Speaker 6 (48:26):
No, no, you would not know.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Wait, you should have a statue in front of your house.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
Oh right, I should have a you know what. Everyone
everyone rubs it on the way in and then uh
and then uh bowls on the way out. That's how
it should work.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
That's the way to you know.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Wait, okay, do I have to like Carson Palmer's heisman
is in the garage?

Speaker 6 (48:49):
Yeah? So mine? Uh so you asked my absolutely the
MVP trophies. I'm sure one might be at b OYU
and another one might be uh over at work or
something like that. I mean, it's kind of like like
there's other places in my life where you know, we
can do that, but not a hout, not the house now.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
But do you not want to be reminded?

Speaker 6 (49:11):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (49:11):
Every day? Man?

Speaker 6 (49:12):
I was good. Let me let me go stare at
that some more. You know, all I think about is
losing to the Cowboys in ninety two?

Speaker 4 (49:21):
So is there? Where's that? What do I do that?

Speaker 6 (49:22):
Do I put that up? Someone?

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Does that still hurt?

Speaker 6 (49:25):
I throw up in my mouth. You just made me
throw up of my mouth.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Thanks Dan, But you brought it up?

Speaker 6 (49:31):
Did I really?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
You just did. It still hurts you to this day
that you lost to the Cowboys.

Speaker 6 (49:38):
Because it's I mean, you know, I sucked and I
just pissed me off. It's like, yeah, move on, did
I do that to myself? It's Christmas time, let's be
let's be.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Joyous, okay, So you have two MVPs.

Speaker 6 (49:50):
You bring it out in me, Dan, it's your fault.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Do I bring out the best in you or the
worst in you?

Speaker 3 (49:57):
It's content.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
I'm trying to bring the best content out of you.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
Not sure. I'm not sure. You make me look at
myself really hard. I don't know what it is about
to look in the mirror with you.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Troy Aikman had a couple of touchdown passes in the game.
Yuh play?

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Thanks?

Speaker 6 (50:10):
You know what other details can you throw in?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
And then you lost to Georgia by three points when
you threw five interceptions.

Speaker 6 (50:19):
And then when I lost to Charles Barklay who wants
to be a millionaire, you know, celebrity edition, when I
didn't know that the definition of crucible Like, thanks, right?

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Whatever else?

Speaker 6 (50:31):
I lost to Erkele in the NBA three point shootout.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Any other losses that you want to talk.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
About, Dan, it was like the ball take it down here.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Like this, Like how am I losing?

Speaker 6 (50:46):
How am I losing to Rkle? Like this is not possible, Damn.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Any other losses that you want to bring up.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
You asked me about getting benched, and I think you've
triggered something, Dan, You've triggered something. I don't know, that's it.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Those are the big ones, like Tampa Bay. You never
got benched?

Speaker 6 (51:01):
Did I get benched?

Speaker 4 (51:02):
And uh?

Speaker 6 (51:04):
Well, when I didn't get benched, but when Ray Perkins
took the job after my full season at the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers when I was two and fourteen, and I've
never I have never fought and battled and with other
Warriors in my life as much. Then they earned those
two wins. He showed up in the offseason and said, young,
I hate lefties and I hate scramblers.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
And I'm like, uh oh, that's the problem.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
This is the problem. I'm left handed and I scramble.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
Well that's the old. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (51:36):
Today in today's game, I'm the man, right, this is
this is my game. And h and you know, no
one thinks bad of it. But lefties was a thing.
You know. Bill waltsh was the first one that said
to me, Bro, I think being lefties an advantage and
the fact that you can run around if you'll learn
the skill of throwing the ball in the pocket, the
sophisticated part of the game, you can't be stopped. Like.

(51:58):
He was the first one that gave me the vision.
Everyone else is like, you're lefty, man, I don't know.
I don't know if I want to coach you in college.
Same thing. I don't know, Lefty, you got to you
got to, you gotta play defense. You know, being lefty
was like this curse discrimination, Dan, something's a problem. How
about in the NFL. Think about this. Ten percent of
people human beings are left handed right ten percent? Are

(52:19):
there ten percent representation and quarterbacks in the NFL, no
one in the last thirty years name on one hand.
You cannot name lefty quarterbacks. There is complete discrimination, Dan.
We'll get to the bottom of it in another show.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Dang, who are you today?

Speaker 6 (52:37):
I don't know. It's like Christmas times, like I think
you said, being benched, and I just I don't know.
I just brought up all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I'm wondering, like Josh Allen seems to have figured it out.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
No, I would go the other way. I think the
Bills have figured it out because Josh for a number
of years had to play that Superman roll over and
over and over again, because again the game is dramatically
changed for offensive players to go make take the space.
He would go try to do it because he wasn't

(53:11):
getting the help. Now all of a sudden, he's getting
the running help, he's got offensive line help, he's got
innovative play calling which is much more interesting and cool,
and now he doesn't have to be Superman every play.
And what's funny about it, the second you take that away,
where it's not this burden that he has to kind
of do it every play and do something crazy, and

(53:32):
just all of a sudden, the more we get Josh
Allen that when he does do it, it's like, oh,
it's just knifing. It's just you know, you complete capitulates
from the defense. They just crushes them. So I would
say that the Bills came to Josh. Now he's gotten better,
he's gotten sophisticated passing has gotten better, like it's all honed.

(53:53):
But I think the Bills met josh at who he
could be, just like the Chiefs meet where Patrick is
and where every team needs. That's why I say this
for Lamar Jackson, meet him where he is, and I
just they're trying. They're trying to change the offense and
make it less of the most sophisticated running game in
America and build a sophisticated passing game. I think they're trying,

(54:17):
and at times it's amazing. But now obviously they got
to do in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Let me go back to being a left handed quarterback
for I let you go, did you put Jerry Rice? Like,
would you, as a left handed quarterback, want your best
receiver on your left side?

Speaker 6 (54:32):
No, it didn't matter. That doesn't matter. So here's the
key is that football is right handed, so right handed
that they see lefties and the coaches like, a, I
don't know if that I want to coach you because
I then have to flip everything and I have to
teach it differently. I just that's how simple then the
people in football can be. But if you think about it,

(54:53):
because football is so right handed, everything gets installed right handed,
every plays right handed as a start that linebackers now
are left handed right because they're opposite right, so everything
happens to their left, and all of a sudden, the
lefty comes out and boots left and is on the run.
And now you know, like there's a moment that Bill
Watson one that told me about it, is like you're
gonna have the flash of reflect reflex from defenses that

(55:16):
you're gonna take advantage of. And that's why when to me,
when I see a lefty in the game, I'm like,
that's an advantage no one else sees.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
I guess we did the math.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Less than three percent of quarterbacks in the NFL are
left handed.

Speaker 6 (55:30):
You got a crack staff there, Yes, now that I know.
And look, that's when I found out as a Dodger, So
I mean, this is awesome.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Well that was Fritzy who made the mistake. Thought that
you were.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
I really loved the last couple of months thinking myself
as a a professional baseball player.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
I when we have you on, are we helping are
hurting you?

Speaker 6 (55:51):
It's awesome therapy. Dan, I really appreciate you bringing me on.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
The kids.

Speaker 6 (55:55):
Are my kids are here wanting to walk by because
they got to get going like, what's the problem, Like,
there's all things going on around here. It helps. I
love being a part of the Dan Patrick show.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
So all the girls are there.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
Well, yeah, Summer's right here, hik, summer.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
You're good, go by, You're good. She's been waiting and
bugging me the whole time. Maybe that's what happened, is
that I was distracted this whole time.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Does she care that you're a Hall of Famer?

Speaker 4 (56:24):
At See?

Speaker 6 (56:25):
I say to people a lot of times when they
say something to me nicely out on the street, like Steve,
you are amazing. Well you were great, and like would
you go home and maybe say that you know that'd be.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Hopeful around your wife.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (56:36):
I just tell people like you're like I was really cool,
you know. But I look, I'm overplaying a little bit.
But because everyone gets it, but I again, I don't.
I don't want Look, it's a big enough burden in
some ways. Fame is a thief, Dan, Let's be honest,
and if you're not careful, fame can take stuff away
from you that you don't even notice. And so I

(56:56):
think I realized that at some point, and I wasn't
gonna like burning the house with it.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Did you get off hold of yourself at some point?

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (57:07):
There were moments I remember.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
And when is that going to end?

Speaker 4 (57:12):
What ended fast?

Speaker 6 (57:13):
I went down the look I was the super Bowl.
We won the super Bowl, and of course you're going
down down to Disneyland because you got to go, you know,
because that's it wasn't a metaphor to yell on the camera,
I'm going to Disneyland. And so you're down there, you're
going through and I remember going down Main Street and
it was everyone's like, Steve, you're the man, You're the king,
You're the greatest. And I remember the yelling back, I
am the greatest. I just lost my mind.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Man.

Speaker 6 (57:38):
I I laugh about that, laugh about it even this moment.
I'm like, what what what got into me? I wouldn't
not like like me to do that, but I was like, yeah,
you're right. But then the freaking Main Street is so
short that that lasted like three minutes and turn it
backstage and you know it's over. So yeah, that was cool.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Keep your okay, Hey, I'm good.

Speaker 6 (58:03):
I think it's important Dan to recognize when you've made
the vulnerability when things don't go well, and to learn
that Ronnie Lott taught me, man, competition is not worth
it unless it's if it's just winning winter winters and losers.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
But he cut off a finger.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
But I'm the same competition. Think about this. He said
this over and over to me. Competition is not worth
it if it's just winning and losing. If you don't
give me the space to lose and learn, then I
don't want to do it. And so yeah, I've lost
and I'm trying to learn. So the great Ronnie Lott.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
He lost to the Cowboys in nineteen ninety two. He's
Steve Young and uh, great time.

Speaker 6 (58:40):
And you don't need to do you need to drive
it home. Now.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
I thought we were like that was good, like we're
learning from I don't.

Speaker 6 (58:47):
You don't have to ride the crap train like you
can get something else the crap train. Well, yeah that's cramp.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Okay, that's that's crap is.

Speaker 6 (58:56):
I don't want to live I don't. I look, I
want to be vulnerable enough to reckon eyes that I
need to learn and you know, be better, But I
don't want to live there.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
You want to be vulnerable enough to be vulnerable? Yeah, yeah,
he's Steve Young lot I'll check in with you.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Learn.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
I'll check it and learn. Then well next week I'll
check in with you.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
All right, are you? Are you?

Speaker 6 (59:16):
Are you one thousand, one hundred million to zero. I
mean if you you just dominated every yeah, then maybe
that's why you don't get it. You're undefeated.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Ye's a problem. Yeah. You know what, when I lose,
I'll call you.

Speaker 6 (59:31):
Do you mean be posted?

Speaker 3 (59:34):
He's uh.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Steve Young once again lost in nineteen ninety two to
the Cowboys,