January 14, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan reacts to last night’s NFL Wild Card win for the Los Angeles Rams and wonders what the Minnesota Vikings will do with QB Sam Darnold. Plus, he speculates on whether Jerry Jones is really considering hiring Deion Sanders to replace Mike McCarthy.
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take your phone calls. The Rams roll the Vikings twenty
seven to nine. We normally skew negative after a game
like this because the season is over for Minnesota. I
do want to give the Rams their props here because
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just because we don't know who some of your players
are doesn't mean you don't have a really good team.
And when it comes to that Rams defense, they're not
household names like they were when they won a Super Bowl.
They do have some offensive firepower, they have a well
known head coach. But that was a great team performance
last night, shutting down the Vikings twenty seven to nine.
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They sacked Sam Darnold nine times, and you get the
feeling the Rams probably looked at what the Detroit Lions
did when they face the Vikings the previous game, and
that is we're going after Sam Darnald. We're going to
put as much pressure on Sam Donald as possible, and
it certainly worked against the Lions, and the blueprint worked
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last night. Sam Donald was uncomfortable the entire evening and
after the game, he spoke about his play at the
end of the season.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
You know, I clearly just didn't play good enough the
last couple of weeks. You know, left too many throws
out there that I would usually make, and got to
take better care of the football today especially, you know,
I feel like I can be a lot better in
terms of just moving on. My progression is not trying
to force anything. And but yeah, again, I give them
a lot of credit for the way they came out,
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they played and the plan that they had.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
The Rams tight an NFL playoff record with nine sacks
in a playoff game. The Titans did that in twenty
twenty one, the Chiefs nineteen ninety three, the Browns in
eighty six, the Niners back in eighty four, and the
nineteen sixty six Buffalo Bills. It felt like every time
Sam don't Ernold was sacked, money was coming out of
his pockets. It was like, damn, there's another million dollars.
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There's another million dollars. Poor Sam, what's going on here?
They put pressure on him, and I would have thought
that they would have expected this from the Rams, and
the Rams are a young team, you know, aside from
Matthew Stafford. They are one of the younger teams in
the NFL, and they are one of those teams at
the end of the year that we thought, boy, you
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don't want to face them come playoff time. It felt
like them and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Well Tampa got
kicked to the curb. But here are the Rams, and
the Rams will have the Philadelphia Eagles coming out. And
in case you're wondering, the Rams are getting six against
the Eagles, the Texans getting seven and a half against
the Chiefs. This according to Draftkingings. The Commander is getting
nine and a half against the Lions, and the Ravens
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are a one and a half point favorite against the
Buffalo Bills. All right, Seaton, pull question here, and then
we'll go back to the game. We'll also talk about
the Cowboys situation with Mike McCarthy, who is now free
at last to talk to other teams, and we'll ask
the question, UH, don't know if we have an answer
to it, will Mike McCarthy be a head coach in
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the NFL next season? All right, seton, you.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Know what, just quickly off the last night's game too.
It was so brutal. Every time Sam Donald made a
mistake or got sacked or did something, they would immediately
cut to Kevin O'Connell's face, Let's get the coach's reaction
to what we just saw, and then they would sort
of ping pong back and forth between Sam Donald's just
looking shell shocked, like what's happening and Kevin O'Connell being like,
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oh my god, this is awful.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Was JJ McCarthy on the sidelines because I kept thinking,
if you're gonna show sideline reaction, just give me the
quarterback and waiting here and trying to figure out, now,
what do you do because you can't throw thirty Sam
Donald had a wonderful year, maybe the comeback player of
the year, But you have thirty five touchdown passes or
did you have twelve or thirteen interceptions? He played great.
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I would like to have seen justin Jefferson's reactions as
well with everything that was going on, because if you're
the best wide receiver in the league and you're probably
going is this as good as we can get? Because
you don't know what you have in JJ McCarthy. Now
they think they know because they drafted him high, but
went out with the knee injury, and now what do
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you do with Sam Darnold? Sam Donald apologists, Pauly paps, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Weirdly, I was thinking about this. The Vikings may have
benefited by the loss yesterday because three weeks ago they
had to bring Sam Darnald back, whether it be franchise,
tag or contract. Now they have the wiggle room to
move on from him, and the fan base probably wouldn't revolt.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
At least this morning, they wouldn't. So they're light winners
last night. Yeah, I see where you're going with that.
That okay, we have to keep him too. We don't
have to keep him and the fan base would you know,
be able to say we saw him in a couple
of big games and he didn't do well. Look, it's
going to come down to the quarterback win or lose.
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We give them credit, we give them blame. It's more
than that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
There are a lot of times that quarterbacks will they
have to take the blame for sacks, and this is
a situation where Sam Darnold has to take some of
the blame that I think they sack. He was sacked
fifty seven times this year. You know, Russell Wilson would
get sacked, Joe Burrow would get sacked. You know, there's
certain guys who get sacked a lot, and that's, you know,
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in large part because you know Caleb Williams. You're trying
to hold on, You're trying to make something happen. But
give credit to the rams that rams and if you
don't have to blitz. I mean, it's such a benefit
when you just send your defensive line and then you're
back in coverage and you put pressure. Now, this is
what the Vikings were doing prior to the last two games.
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Brian Flores, that defensive coordinator, he was throwing all kinds
of junk defenses, crazy stuff, and it worked until it didn't.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah, the uh, if you're looking at at Sam Donald,
I don't know how you and you're you're the Vikings
front office, I don't know how you in the offseason
sit justin Jefferson down at a meeting and say we're
sticking with Sam. I just don't know how you can.
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I don't really know how you can look at any
of those receivers and be like, Okay, I know it's
a rough two weeks, but we're gonna stick with that. Dude,
I just don't know how you can.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But these aren't pedestrian numbers that he put up. Yeah pulling.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
It feels like last night he was exposed Sam Donald
as a good not great quarterback, maybe like Rock Party
has been somewhat exposed as good not great where under
optimal conditions in November. He's fantastic in a playoff situation.
There's so only so far he could take you, and
Matthew Stafford feels the opposite, like you'd ignore the regular
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season on Matthew Stafford's in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I trust this guy, yeah, but there's only so many
quarterbacks who truly are game changing, you know, Lamar Is
and Josh Allen Is, Patrick Mahomes, they're truly different than
everybody else because you can have you know, and you
can put Joe Burrow in there. I think Joe is
legitimately great, but you still look at sort of that
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second tier and there's a big difference in that. I mean,
Jalen Hurts is a good quarterback, I don't think he's great.
Justin Herbert, I think he's a good quarterback, I don't
think he's great. There's a lot of them that are
lumped in there. But there's only a couple that you go,
oh my god, that guy with the ball game on
the line, he'll make a difference. Sam Darnold's not one
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of those guys. Kirk Cousins is not one of those guys.
Jayden Daniels is becoming one of those guys, like he's
starting to sneak into the five of wow. And now
let's see what he does. Because it's week by week.
Your report guard is week by week, and then we go,
all right, i'll give you an A, give you B minus.
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Sam Donald, I'm gonna give you a D. And then
that's it. Then your final report card, and then you
go into the off season. If you're the Vikings, you
have to be extremely confident in JJ McCarthy. If not,
you might have to say to Sam Donald, we're gonna
franchise to you and pay you whatever forty four million
dollars as an insurance policy.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Yes, Fritzy, it's so easy to get caught up. I
did two, fourteen and three. Wow, this guy is something.
Look at the Vikings. But the weight of that Lion's
loss and yesterday's loss, that's like three losses each from
fourteen and three losing those two games.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But I don't know what to take away from this
with Sam Darnold. Like at the end of the season,
if you say, how did Sam Darnald, do you know
the totality of the season, I'd say good? Good?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Now?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Is good worth fifty million dollars? Not to me? But
then it's not my money? But then how many years
has he earned? Or does he say, look, I can
benefit from the market because there's no other free agent
quarterbacks who were good or on my level that I'm
going to be able. Not everybody gets a quarterback, and
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he might have to wait until the dust settles at
the draft, and then that's when a team reaches out
and says all right, And then if you get two
teams in a bidding war, then maybe Sam Darnold is
making you whatever three years, one, twenty something like that.
And I thought that might be the direction the Vikings
were going to go in. Is put him in that
Baker Mayfield to you know, kind of financial slot.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Yeah, Pauline, it reminds me a bunch of years ago,
maybe ten years ago. Remember Carson Palmer was on Arizona
his last stop, and he had that great twenty fifteen
season where I think they were thirteen wins and he
was an MVP candidate Comeback Player of the Year, and
then he had playoff game I think where he threw
five interceptions and it undid the entire season and he
never got it back.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The perception here is Kevin O'Connell, the Vikings head coach,
on Sam Donald's season.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
You know, I think it's very important we all think about,
you know, Sam's body of work, what he was able
to do this year when not very many people thought
he would be able to lead a team to fourteen wins.
I'm very rare for a quarterback in their first year.
In fact, it is rare the most wins by a
first year quarterback with a team, and just the way
he came in committed himself to just a daily process
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to be the best version of himself. It did not
work out in the end. I'm proud of him, proud
of you know, really everybody in that locker room, but
Sam and the journey him and I went on this
year will always you know, be a you know something
that's a special place in my heart for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Well you got to back your guy, man, Kevin's doing
the right thing. Sam Donald completed sixty eight percent of
his passes and had a passer rating of one oh
six point four, thirty five touchdowns, twelve interceptions through week seventeen.
Then he completed fifty three percent of his passes, QB
rating of sixty six point four, had one touchdown one
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interception in his last two games. So a dramatic fall off,
and you wonder did these teams figure out something in
this situation? Now. I always like it when somebody says, well,
we got the blueprint. Well, there are certain teams that
have the people to carry out a blueprint. I can
have the blueprint to solve a Rubik's cube. That doesn't
mean I'm going to solve it. I'll be like, damn,
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how did these kids do this?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yes, Paul, possible solution for next year for the Vikings
play Sam Donald in the regular season, played JJ McCarthy
in the postseason. He was great in the postseason for Michigan.
Problem solve.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Okay, did we come up with the pole question?
Speaker 8 (12:52):
Seaton?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I think I asked you, I don't know if we
got a couple of them.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Well, yeah, we got a few of them who had
a worst day yesterday, Sam Donald or Mike McCarthy. Uh,
you could argue the case that only one of them
had a bad day.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
All right, You know what, I'm gonna discuss the Cowboys
situation coming up, and maybe Mike McCarthy had a good
day yesterday. Maybe what else do you have?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Uh? How about is the Cowboys head coaching job desirable?
According to Troy Aikman, No said that last night, but
I still think it is. Well, we'll talk about him,
all right, Got another one for me?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Uh sure?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
How about how much money has Sam Darnold lost in
the last two weeks? A ton a bunch. Somebody's still
getting paid big time.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
What if you had that metal detector guy goes out
on the field after the game? You know, those guys
are on the beach walking around like, damn, these aren't coins.
These are one hundred dollars bills that I'm picking up here.
I felt bad for him because you don't root against somebody,
and he was a good story. It just felt like
he was shell shocked when he was going back to
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pass after the fourth or fifth sack. You almost go
back going where's it coming from? And the last thing
you want to do as a quarterback is be thinking
about getting sacked. Now, you need to know where pressure's
coming from. There's a difference of where's it coming from
or which guy is going to make me hurt? And
that was the feeling I had with the Rams last night.
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But give them credit. That's tying an NFL playoff record
with nine sacks, putting the pressure therefore taking the pressure
off the Rams offense. We'll take a break, we'll come back.
We'll talk about the situation with Dion, with Jerry Jones,
with Mike McCarthy, and asked the question will Mike McCarthy
be a head coach in the NFL this next season?
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Speaker 2 (16:02):
We'll settle on our poll question. The Cowboys and Mike
McCarthy have parted ways. Why did it take so long?
You didn't let him interview with the Chicago Bears And
I just kept under trying to understand what exactly is
going on here. Then there was a report that they
started negotiations. Then there was another report that they hadn't
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started negotiations, and then we kept wondering, are you missing
out on that window to be able to interview Let's
say you want to interview Ben Johnson of the Alliance,
but you missed that opportunity because now this week he
has to prepare for their next opponent, the Commanders or
Aaron Glenn, whoever, you know, any of these coaching candidates.
And I don't know if they were interested in Mike Brabel.
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It feels like Mike Brabel was going to the Patriots
and that was a done deal. But are you interested
in Ben Johnson? I'm going to read you something that
Tim Callishaw Dallas Morning News. He'll join us coming up
a little bit later on, and he talked about Dak Prescott, like, really,
the person you're hiring has to be able to fix
Dak Prescott, who I think is around thirty two now,
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had injuries, and Tim Callishaw says, Dak cannot run anymore.
He had twenty four rushing yards through seven games when
he tried to turn back the clock against Atlanta, rushing
for thirty yards on three carries. The next thing you know,
he was having hamstring surgery done for the year. Calashaw
then goes on to say, that's twenty six games Dak
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Prescott is missed in the last five seasons, So that's
just short of one third of the Cowboys' schedule. Immobile
and injury prone question mark. Jerry Jones can't even afford
to ponder those issues right now. Dak Prescott's two hundred
and thirty one million dollars guaranteed deal. The owner can
think only in terms of how to fix his quarterback.
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Who is best to equip to do that? Figure that out,
and the Cowboys at least have a shot at getting
back in the hunt. Fail on that front in his
ninth coaching higher, and Jerry Jones is just spinning the
wheels on his one storied and now lapping stock franchise
one more time. You got to bring in an offensive
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minded person, correct or you got to bring in a
great offensive coordinator, somebody who's going to fix Dak Prescott. Well,
how do you fix a guy who can no longer run?
Injury prone? Missing almost a third of his games, and
the expectation level is cowboy like and that is let's
get back to the playoffs, Let's get back to a
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title game, Let's get back to his super Bowl. Here.
I know Dion Sanders and Jerry loves shiny objects. Dion
is a shiny object. But is he the right person
for this job. I think Dion is great at being
a CEO, and by that I mean I don't know
if he's a great coach. As much as he can
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run something, he can oversee something. I think he can
hold people accountable. But I don't know if this is
a situation where you go Dion. I don't think Dion
makes Dak Prescott better. And I don't know if this
story is real. Who does it benefit for this to
get out Jerry, Well, Jerry just wants, you know, publicity. Hey,
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we're trying. We're trying. Everybody reaching out to Dion. People
said Dion, you should reach out to Dion. Him reaching
out to him, it helps Deon. What if Dion says, hey,
I said, I'm committed to Colorado, I'm going to be
staying here, Like if I'm a recruit, I want to know,
are you really committed to this? And then there was
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a report maybe the Raiders and Tom Brady. There was
another report that it's not going to happen. Dion is
not a candidate for the Raiders. So is Dion a
candidate for the Cowboys as of this morning? I would
say he is, but I don't know the you know,
the full validity of that. Is it true, is it accurate?
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Is it real? And I think that's what we have
to kind of sort out. And Tim Callishaw, Will John
is coming up at the top of next hour, and
I don't know, you know, Dion and Jerry are good friends.
Is it a good story or is it a good situation,
a real situation? And what happened with Mike McCarthy. I
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kept reading that they wanted to extend. They were going
to extend in for one more year, one more year.
That was it. And if you're Mike McCarthy, that's a
slap in the face. I mean, you're a borderline Hall
of Fame coach, you won a Super Bowl, you got
a pretty impressive resume, and Jerry's gonna treat you like that?
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Does he really want you? It's like you're gonna get divorced.
You don't want somebody to date the person that you're divorcing,
but then you don't want to keep that team, that person.
That's the feeling I get. Mike McCarthy. We questioned the
hiring from the beginning. I thought he did a pretty
good job. But Jerry doesn't want see Dion. I think
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would he would return fire on Jerry. I think that
he would. He would question things, at least I would
hope that he would. If you want to go in
there and succeed, you have to be able to stand
up to Jerry and say no. And nobody's done that.
He's hired people who won't do that, can't do that,
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not willing to do that. Dion's different. But you got
to fix Dak Prescott because you gave him all that
money and you're stuck with him. Two hundred and thirty
one million dollars for a guy who's thirty two and
injury prone. It's not a great situation. And you got
to pay Micah Parsons, you paid C. D. Lamb. So
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you have a couple of nice, shiny objects, but what
do you really have. It's like a necklace where you have,
you know, three or four beautiful pearls and everything else
is artificial and that's sort of where the Cowboys are.
You know, the Commanders, they're in the playoffs, the Eagles
in the playoffs. Then you have the Cowboys and you
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have the Giants. Will the Giants figure it out? Will
they figure it out before the Cowboys do? Yeah, Pauling,
I want to.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Go back to Mike McCarthy and I'm going to present
you a theory and let me know what you think
of it. Is there any chance, because we don't believe
in mutual breakups, someone walks in the room with the
agenda to leave or to stay. Is it possible that
Mike McCarthy spent this past week looking at the situation,
asked for way too much, or also saw that it's
going to be a short term ish contract and said,
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I'm going to keep asking for things until Jerry says no.
Then I can exit here without saying I quit or left.
And there are other options for me the Chicago or
other that will give me a five year deal with
a full contract and a real GM. Is there any
chance Mike McCarthy was the person who made this happen.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Well, I think you can ask for it out of
professional pride, I would say to Jerry, I want three
years here. I can't go year to year because if
you're a player, you just, whether it's consciously or subconsciously,
you lose respect for the situation. Like that coach, he
doesn't think enough of him to give him security. It's
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like what they did with the Bears with Matt Eberflus.
It's like they're blamed uck, you're not going to be
back here. And Mike McCarthy has he's earned more than
just hey, we're going to keep you around for another year.
And I don't blame Mike. You know, maybe he will benefit,
maybe he will get a long term deal. I just
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don't know. You know, there's a report this morning that
you know, maybe the Bears are going to go after
Pete Carroll. Okay, so then the Raiders aren't going to
bring in Mike McCarthy. Is Ben Johnson going to go there?
Do you want the Saints? John Is that available for him? See,
you start to look at these there's a reason why
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these teams have openings. The Saint situation doesn't seem like
it's a really winnable situation. So I don't know if
he's coaching next year, even with that experience, that resume
I'm not bringing him in unless it's that guy is
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the right guy for our team. Well, I think he's
the right guy for an experienced team, but a team
that he can also be the head coach of and
not be a puppet. And Dallas he was a puppet.
And this is you know, Jerry's m O. But I
don't think Mike McCarthy. I would be surprised if he's
coaching next season. And then the bear situation with Pete Carroll. Okay,
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I heard he did. He had a great interview. Now
it's rare when you don't. When you hear Boyce somebody
had a terrible interview, you're always hearing man, he had
a great interview. I don't know what that means, you know,
don't did you pick up the check? Like what happened?
Where you go? Man? That's a great interview.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yes, Mike Rabel was on his introductory press conference yesterday
with the Patriots and talked about his first ever coaching
interview is for Ervin Meyer in Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And he goes, I blew it. I was terrible.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
I didn't have anything prepared. I didn't know what he's
going to ask, he said, I blew my first job interview.
He was very candidate about it yesterday.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
But this is where you have these coaching candidates who
go in and then they find out how to interview
and that it helps them down the road. And I
think that's where we look at the Rooney rule and
sometimes you say, well, that candidate's not going to get
the job, but you do get the experience of what
that's like to go in and interview. And I always
go back to Mike Tomlin when he went in there,
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and he might have been just a we got to
bring in this guy the Rooney rule. We got to
interview a minority when he came in and blew everybody away,
And maybe you get that opportunity. But I don't know
if Mike McCarthy's going to come in and go, hey,
I'm your answer here. I don't believe that. But you know,
maybe I'm jaded because what happened in Dallas, it just
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felt like we were looking at Mike and you didn't
really see the head coach on the sidelines. You just
saw a guy who that was his title. Eight seven
seven three DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle at DP show. We'll talk to Tim Kalishaw
Dallas Morning News. He'll join us top of the hour. Also,
Kurt Warner will stop by. He was on the call
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of the game last night. Jay in North Carolina, Good morning, Jay,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (26:34):
Hey Dan, longtime listener.
Speaker 13 (26:35):
I love you guys.
Speaker 12 (26:37):
I had two thoughts and one was a T shirt idea.
When the Chiefs complete that three p damn three pay?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
All right? Well, thank you Jay.
Speaker 12 (26:52):
If the Rams upset the Eagles, imagine the Rams and
Lions to go to the Super Bowl. Stafford could rip
the hearts out of a Lion fans.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
That would be tough. If you're a Lions fan, Stafford
goes wins the Super Bowl, then you feel great about
your team and then here comes Matthew Stafford again. Rip
your heart out. Brent in Georgia, Hi Brent, what's on
your mind? Abp out the going? Hey?
Speaker 13 (27:22):
All right, So I think what you saw last night
is why Sam Darnold has been regulated as a career back.
The dude has a tail, and any defense can see it.
I can see it from my couch. The dude gets
scared to death in big moments and it's all over
his face. And a defense is going to eat that up.
So while he may be good in regular season when
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the pressure is not high, he's those good numbers, has
all these good numbers. You have to look at more
than just numbers. And the guy just don't have it
in big moments and a defense is going to just
tear him up. And I think that's his and he
can't hide it. He shows it all over his face.
And I think that's why he really called himself a
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butler of money last night.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Oh he did? Yeah, I think so. Like that was
a perception game. We kept saying, Okay, can he erase
what happened against the Lions? Can he zero in win
this game? That you were a favorite and they had
it on a neutral site in Arizona and he looked overwhelmed.
But give credit to the Rams. They overwhelmed him as well.
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Tim and Iowa hide Tim, what's on your mind.
Speaker 14 (28:31):
More than Dan? How we doing today?
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Goodbye?
Speaker 8 (28:35):
Good hey? Real quick?
Speaker 14 (28:36):
Just a different perspective on this game last night, and
that is I realize with every sack Sam Darnold lost money,
but he lost twice this year to the same team
and the Lions and the Rams. I don't think there's
enough onus being put on the coaching staff for not
being ready to have an offensive line game plan to
protect him, to allow him to do his job correctly.
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I mean, I know he didn't look good, He looked scared,
he was tentative. But I mean, isn't Koc this great
offensive mind. How did he not have the defense package
up front to block for these defenses they're coming at him,
especially after he just saw how Aaron Glenn got at
him the week before. I just to me it was
more of a coaching issue to put Sam in a
position where he was just getting beaten all day.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, I think it's fair fair to bring that up.
And you're right with Kevin O'Connell, and if we can
get him on, I would ask him that what did
you see against the Lions that maybe you weren't aware
of that the Rams were going to do the same thing.
But Sam didn't play well. It comes down to the quarterback.
(29:40):
If he played well, we'd be talking about Sam Darnold
made himself money. But he didn't.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah, right, I mean that's sort of like the problem
was compounded, where you know, when he was getting sacked,
he was getting hit hard to it seemed likely he
wasn't just getting taken down, he was getting crushed. But
even then on those moments where he was able to
get the ball out, he either overthrew the ball through
it behind somebody. He wasn't even making the simple plays
that he has to make.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, and I do I have to, you know, factor
in Kevin O'Connell, because I've said he's a great coach,
probably going to be Coach of the year, offensive minded guy,
former quarterback. You got to find something because it felt
like they kept doing the same thing and the Rams
had no reason to alter their scheme. Andrew in Washington morning, Andrew, Hey.
Speaker 15 (30:29):
Good morning, Dan Dennets, Thanks for taking my call. Yeah,
I had a comment on Sam Darnold too. I think
during last night's broadcast it was brought up how when
pressure would come he would run out of the pocket
instead of just maybe take a step up and slide,
which then he would keep his gaze downfield to his
open wide receivers who's missing, you know, wide open wide receivers.
So you know that's something like Sam seeing ghost Donald
(30:53):
back in the day of New York Jets. I mean,
I think that's what we saw, and that's what the
previous caller had talked about my question is lose that
much money? The reason being is we were just talking
a few weeks ago about how you know, forty one
point three million guaranteed franchise tag would be a steal
for him, So that was what he was going to get.
Is he not going to get a contract that has
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more than forty million dollars guaranteed after this?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Well, that's what Paulie keeps saying. PAULI would like to
spin it that Sam Donald will still get paid, but
probably by somebody else.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Yeah, I think that's a good call. I was going
to say that he will probably not get franchise tag.
He might not be a Viking next year, but this
may open the door for the free agent become of
the free agent class because the free agent class this
year is terrible. The other top people are like Justin
Fields and Desmond Ritter and Kyle Trask and Drew Locke.
Those are the free agents, and it's also a small
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quarterback draft his depth. Sam Darnald may actually get to
test the free agent market this year and get He
may get three years, seventy million dollars from a blank team,
but at least there's a future there if he stays
in three for seventy, Well, I'm just saying, like, let's
say it was a low end contract.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Well, that's that's backup quarterback. Almost three for seventy. He's
getting twenty you know, twenty three million dollars. Yeah, he
made ten million this year. He's gonna make if somebody
signs him, he'll make probably you know, thirty eight to
forty five million dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
And feel that and there's more chance now that he
will not be franchise tagged right.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
That I don't know, you know, if they say JJ
McCarthy's healthy and I have no idea, that's the great mystery.
It was a mystery that they were all in on
him because we never saw him be put the game
on my back, I'm gonna win games for you. At Michigan,
he was just a really good college quarterback. I'm assuming
(32:51):
that Kevin O'Connell knows, you know, that what he has
with him, and he will be a starting quarterback, a
great quarterback, or at least the potential to be great. Yeah,
I have looking.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Let's see this year, Gino Smith getting twenty five Okay,
he's Sam Donald is gonna get more than that. Yes,
Baker Mayfield is at thirty three. Yeah, Derek Carr and
Aaron Rodgers are at thirty seven and a half each.
I guess you could stop me when you think we're
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going to get to where Sam Donald.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Oh, I think it's right in that that neighborhood Dafford
is that forty? I think it's thirty five. Well, it's
also the next guy up as well with all you know,
Aaron Rodgers, when did he sign that contract? When did
Derek Carr sign that contract? And so where are Maybe
it's you know, upper thirties for Sam Donald.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Yeah, he's also at the timing it out with other
next guys up who shouldn't have been paid, probably like
Kirk Cousins has been run out. He was the next
guy up. Probably shouldn't have gotten that money, right, No, No,
I mean obviously Deshaun Watson hasn't worked out.
Speaker 11 (34:04):
That wasn't great. Let's let's wait.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Till give it time, give it time, Let's wait till
he comes back for the second Achilles surgery. There, Yeah,
all right, let me take a break. Got our play
of the day up next. More on the Cowboys situation
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Mike McCarthy has had at He's had eleven seasons of
ten or more wins in his career. The Bears have
(35:44):
had three seasons of ten or more wins period. But
I don't think that he is attractive to the Bears
fan base, not that you have to try to placate them.
You want to get the right guy, and if you
get the right guy, then they'll accept him. But Mike McCarthy,
how many coaches have had eleven seasons of ten or
(36:04):
more wins in their careers? We should check on that
the Bears have had three seasons of ten or more wins.
But it feels like and I don't know how legitimate
this is, but Pete Carroll was getting. It feels like
a lot of traction with Chicago. I was told last
night that Ben Johnson the Raiders makes more sense because
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he doesn't want to go against the Lions and Dan
Campbell being in the same conference. Whether that's true or not,
I think also the allure of Tom Brady and Tom
Brady is making decisions with the Raiders. It feels like
he's making the decisions with the Raiders. Ben in Minnesota, Hi, Ben,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (36:48):
Good morning?
Speaker 15 (36:48):
Dan?
Speaker 8 (36:49):
Six?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Five?
Speaker 8 (36:51):
Yeah, I was just curious. I know, Sam Donald, he's
probably done as a Viking, but I'm just saying that
he's going to be totally thrown to the bus because
the deef since the coordinary. I'll coach both games against
the Rams and the Lions the last games that we
played them. And my other hope is that I'm hoping
Jefferson doesn't become the next Viking receiver who wants to
get out of town, you know more Row's what happened
(37:11):
with Diggs and Moss.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, I did think about that last night.
Speaker 13 (37:16):
Ben.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's like at some point, you know, and receivers have
been enabled, like they're like, I you know what, I
want this, I want out. I'm not happy with this.
I don't know if Justin Jefferson is, you know, that's
his personality. But I did wonder about that last night,
yess Mark.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
Yeah, So the pressure is going to be on JJ
McCarthy if they get rid of Sam Darnold, because it's
gonna be a JJ. It's your responsibility to give us
another thirteen fourteen one season and to keep Justin Jefferson happy.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Uh, John and Cincinnati, Hi John, Dan.
Speaker 16 (37:49):
Thank you very much, appreciate the time. Just curious your perspective.
Why is Ryan Day never mentioned in any of these
coaching searches. It seems like every year there's three or
four college coaches, and as successful as he's been, he's
just never really mentioned.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I don't know that I suggested that he would have
been a better hire in Jacksonville than urban Meyer. But
I had heard that from a scout that if you're
going to try to develop Trevor Lawrence, urban Meyer is
not the guy. Now, of course it was a disaster.
I don't know if Ryan Day aspires to do that.
I don't like he might just be a college coach,
(38:25):
but I suggested that he would have been a better
higher than urban Meyer.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Yeah, pum, I had to look up Ryan Day's resume,
but he was a college coach for years and years,
and then twenty fifteen he was the Eagles quarterbacks coach.
In twenty sixteen, he was a Niners quarterbacks coach right
before he went back to Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
M So maybe he does want that eventually. Maybe if
he wins a national title, he'd put it out there.
But you know, they're reaching out to Marcus Freeman reportedly
instead of Ryan Day. Sean in Oregon. Hey Sean, what's
on your mind?
Speaker 8 (39:00):
Well, Sam Donald, that's on my mind a little bit.
Speaker 12 (39:03):
And you know, I'm thinking that he is what he is.
You know, he's been a backup quarterback and I think
he's probably gonna go back to being a backup quarterback.
I mean, I don't think these guys are going to
try to make him like a like. You see the
nervous energy on that guy. You see the panic. It
looks like he's running out of a fire. A good
quarterback doesn't do that. A good quarterback is always like calm, cool, collective,
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and he's comfortable in chaos. You'll never see Joe Burrow
or Joe Montana, Russell Wilson, he wouldn't have a look.
Speaker 8 (39:32):
On his face like that. And I just I'm not
buying into this.
Speaker 12 (39:36):
I think people get a small sample size and they
think they know what's going on. They see a few
games here, they see a few games there, and this
is just not gonna It's just not gonna work out. Dan,
I just don't believe in it. I'm not going to
buy into it at all.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Well, I don't think you can accidentally throw thirty five
touchdown passes. So I have to be fair to Sam Darnald.
He was in a bad situation with the Jets and
then you get relegated to a backup quarterback and he
got kicked to the curb, and you know, then he
ends up in San Francisco's a backup quarterback, and then
Minnesota is like, I mean, if they thought that much
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about Sam, they wouldn't have drafted JJ McCarthy because JJ
McCarthy is what three years younger than him. So it's
not like you're saying, hey, we got this guy and
we're gonna get you know, he's old and he'll give
us one or two years. You weren't, you know, completely
sold and you probably bought brought him in for an
insurance policy. With JJ McCarthy, I don't think that's going
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to be the case. I think Sam Darnold would get
paid and we're gonna then find out just how good
he is, because the teams that need quarterbacks are the
teams that aren't very good. Seaton update the poll results
from the first hour. If you can, yeah, we.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Got up there right now, is the Cowboys head coaching
job a desirable job right now? Your options there at
yes or no. Right now, seventy eight percent of the
audience have it as a no, not a desirable job.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
It's still the coach of the Cowboys. You may not
like the quarterback, you may not like the owner, but
you like the title. And you got to be wired
to be able to be the head coach. Either you're
a very submissive person and you're going to allow to
be bossed around by Jerry, or are you going to
be able to stand up and say to Jerry you
(41:25):
want me to coach, let me coach. If not, go
out and find somebody else who is going to listen
and do everything that you ask them to do. We'll
talk to Tim Callishaw the Dallas Morning News. Kurt Warner
will stop by as well. One Hour in the Books,
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take your phone calls. The Rams roll the Vikings twenty
seven to nine. We normally skew negative after a game
like this because the season is over for Minnesota. I
do want to give the Rams their props here because
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just because we don't know who some of your players
are doesn't mean you don't have a really good team.
And when it comes to that Rams defense, they're not
household names like they were when they won a Super Bowl.
They do have some offensive firepower, they have a well
known head coach. But that was a great team performance
last night, shutting down the Vikings twenty seven to nine.
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They sacked Sam Darnold nine times, and you get the
feeling the Rams probably looked at what the Detroit Lions
did when they face the Vikings the previous game, and
that is we're going after Sam Darnald. We're going to
put as much pressure on Sam Donald as possible, and
it certainly worked against the Lions, and the blueprint worked
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last night. Sam Donald was uncomfortable the entire evening and
after the game, he spoke about his play at the
end of the season.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
You know, I clearly just didn't play good enough the
last couple of weeks. You know, left too many throws
out there that I would usually make, and got to
take better care of the football today especially, you know,
I feel like I can be a lot better in
terms of just moving on. My progression is not trying
to force anything. And but yeah, again, I give them
a lot of credit for the way they came out,
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they played and the plan that they had.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
The Rams tight an NFL playoff record with nine sacks
in a playoff game. The Titans did that in twenty
twenty one, the Chiefs nineteen ninety three, the Browns in
eighty six, the Niners back in eighty four, and the
nineteen sixty six Buffalo Bills. It felt like every time
Sam don't Ernold was sacked, money was coming out of
his pockets. It was like, damn, there's another million dollars.
(03:08):
There's another million dollars. Poor Sam, what's going on here?
They put pressure on him, and I would have thought
that they would have expected this from the Rams, and
the Rams are a young team, you know, aside from
Matthew Stafford. They are one of the younger teams in
the NFL, and they are one of those teams at
the end of the year that we thought, boy, you
(03:29):
don't want to face them come playoff time. It felt
like them and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Well Tampa got
kicked to the curb. But here are the Rams, and
the Rams will have the Philadelphia Eagles coming out. And
in case you're wondering, the Rams are getting six against
the Eagles, the Texans getting seven and a half against
the Chiefs. This according to Draftkingings. The Commander is getting
nine and a half against the Lions, and the Ravens
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are a one and a half point favorite against the
Buffalo Bills. All right, Seaton, pull question here, and then
we'll go back to the game. We'll also talk about
the Cowboys situation with Mike McCarthy, who is now free
at last to talk to other teams, and we'll ask
the question, UH, don't know if we have an answer
to it, will Mike McCarthy be a head coach in
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the NFL next season? All right, seton, you.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Know what, just quickly off the last night's game too.
It was so brutal. Every time Sam Donald made a
mistake or got sacked or did something, they would immediately
cut to Kevin O'Connell's face, Let's get the coach's reaction
to what we just saw, and then they would sort
of ping pong back and forth between Sam Donald's just
looking shell shocked, like what's happening and Kevin O'Connell being like,
(04:40):
oh my god, this is awful.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Was JJ McCarthy on the sidelines because I kept thinking,
if you're gonna show sideline reaction, just give me the
quarterback and waiting here and trying to figure out, now,
what do you do because you can't throw thirty Sam
Donald had a wonderful year, maybe the comeback player of
the year, But you have thirty five touchdown passes or
did you have twelve or thirteen interceptions? He played great.
(05:08):
I would like to have seen justin Jefferson's reactions as
well with everything that was going on, because if you're
the best wide receiver in the league and you're probably
going is this as good as we can get? Because
you don't know what you have in JJ McCarthy. Now
they think they know because they drafted him high, but
went out with the knee injury, and now what do
(05:31):
you do with Sam Darnold? Sam Donald apologists, Pauly paps, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Weirdly, I was thinking about this. The Vikings may have
benefited by the loss yesterday because three weeks ago they
had to bring Sam Darnald back, whether it be franchise,
tag or contract. Now they have the wiggle room to
move on from him, and the fan base probably wouldn't revolt.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
At least this morning, they wouldn't. So they're light winners
last night. Yeah, I see where you're going with that.
That okay, we have to keep him too. We don't
have to keep him and the fan base would you know,
be able to say we saw him in a couple
of big games and he didn't do well. Look, it's
going to come down to the quarterback win or lose.
(06:13):
We give them credit, we give them blame. It's more
than that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
There are a lot of times that quarterbacks will they
have to take the blame for sacks, and this is
a situation where Sam Darnold has to take some of
the blame that I think they sack. He was sacked
fifty seven times this year. You know, Russell Wilson would
get sacked, Joe Burrow would get sacked. You know, there's
certain guys who get sacked a lot, and that's, you know,
(06:40):
in large part because you know Caleb Williams. You're trying
to hold on, You're trying to make something happen. But
give credit to the rams that rams and if you
don't have to blitz. I mean, it's such a benefit
when you just send your defensive line and then you're
back in coverage and you put pressure. Now, this is
what the Vikings were doing prior to the last two games.
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Brian Flores, that defensive coordinator, he was throwing all kinds
of junk defenses, crazy stuff, and it worked until it didn't.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah, the uh, if you're looking at at Sam Donald,
I don't know how you and you're you're the Vikings
front office, I don't know how you in the offseason
sit justin Jefferson down at a meeting and say we're
sticking with Sam. I just don't know how you can.
(07:34):
I don't really know how you can look at any
of those receivers and be like, Okay, I know it's
a rough two weeks, but we're gonna stick with that. Dude,
I just don't know how you can.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But these aren't pedestrian numbers that he put up. Yeah pulling.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
It feels like last night he was exposed Sam Donald
as a good not great quarterback, maybe like Rock Party
has been somewhat exposed as good not great where under
optimal conditions in November. He's fantastic in a playoff situation.
There's so only so far he could take you, and
Matthew Stafford feels the opposite, like you'd ignore the regular
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season on Matthew Stafford's in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I trust this guy, yeah, but there's only so many
quarterbacks who truly are game changing, you know, Lamar Is
and Josh Allen Is, Patrick Mahomes, they're truly different than
everybody else because you can have you know, and you
can put Joe Burrow in there. I think Joe is
legitimately great, but you still look at sort of that
(08:30):
second tier and there's a big difference in that. I mean,
Jalen Hurts is a good quarterback, I don't think he's great.
Justin Herbert, I think he's a good quarterback, I don't
think he's great. There's a lot of them that are
lumped in there. But there's only a couple that you go,
oh my god, that guy with the ball game on
the line, he'll make a difference. Sam Darnold's not one
(08:51):
of those guys. Kirk Cousins is not one of those guys.
Jayden Daniels is becoming one of those guys, like he's
starting to sneak into the five of wow. And now
let's see what he does. Because it's week by week.
Your report guard is week by week, and then we go,
all right, i'll give you an A, give you B minus.
(09:12):
Sam Donald, I'm gonna give you a D. And then
that's it. Then your final report card, and then you
go into the off season. If you're the Vikings, you
have to be extremely confident in JJ McCarthy. If not,
you might have to say to Sam Donald, we're gonna
franchise to you and pay you whatever forty four million
dollars as an insurance policy.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Yes, Fritzy, it's so easy to get caught up. I
did two, fourteen and three. Wow, this guy is something.
Look at the Vikings. But the weight of that Lion's
loss and yesterday's loss, that's like three losses each from
fourteen and three losing those two games.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But I don't know what to take away from this
with Sam Darnold. Like at the end of the season,
if you say, how did Sam Darnald, do you know
the totality of the season, I'd say good? Good?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Now?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Is good worth fifty million dollars? Not to me? But
then it's not my money? But then how many years
has he earned? Or does he say, look, I can
benefit from the market because there's no other free agent
quarterbacks who were good or on my level that I'm
going to be able. Not everybody gets a quarterback, and
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he might have to wait until the dust settles at
the draft, and then that's when a team reaches out
and says all right, And then if you get two
teams in a bidding war, then maybe Sam Darnold is
making you whatever three years, one, twenty something like that.
And I thought that might be the direction the Vikings
were going to go in. Is put him in that
Baker Mayfield to you know, kind of financial slot.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Yeah, Pauline, it reminds me a bunch of years ago,
maybe ten years ago. Remember Carson Palmer was on Arizona
his last stop, and he had that great twenty fifteen
season where I think they were thirteen wins and he
was an MVP candidate Comeback Player of the Year, and
then he had playoff game I think where he threw
five interceptions and it undid the entire season and he
never got it back.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The perception here is Kevin O'Connell, the Vikings head coach,
on Sam Donald's season.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
You know, I think it's very important we all think about,
you know, Sam's body of work, what he was able
to do this year when not very many people thought
he would be able to lead a team to fourteen wins.
I'm very rare for a quarterback in their first year.
In fact, it is rare the most wins by a
first year quarterback with a team, and just the way
he came in committed himself to just a daily process
(11:36):
to be the best version of himself. It did not
work out in the end. I'm proud of him, proud
of you know, really everybody in that locker room, but
Sam and the journey him and I went on this
year will always you know, be a you know something
that's a special place in my heart for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Well you got to back your guy, man, Kevin's doing
the right thing. Sam Donald completed sixty eight percent of
his passes and had a passer rating of one oh
six point four, thirty five touchdowns, twelve interceptions through week seventeen.
Then he completed fifty three percent of his passes, QB
rating of sixty six point four, had one touchdown one
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interception in his last two games. So a dramatic fall off,
and you wonder did these teams figure out something in
this situation? Now. I always like it when somebody says, well,
we got the blueprint. Well, there are certain teams that
have the people to carry out a blueprint. I can
have the blueprint to solve a Rubik's cube. That doesn't
mean I'm going to solve it. I'll be like, damn,
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how did these kids do this?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yes, Paul, possible solution for next year for the Vikings
play Sam Donald in the regular season, played JJ McCarthy
in the postseason. He was great in the postseason for Michigan.
Problem solve.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Okay, did we come up with the pole question?
Speaker 8 (12:52):
Seaton?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I think I asked you, I don't know if we
got a couple of them.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Well, yeah, we got a few of them who had
a worst day yesterday, Sam Donald or Mike McCarthy. Uh,
you could argue the case that only one of them
had a bad day.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
All right, You know what, I'm gonna discuss the Cowboys
situation coming up, and maybe Mike McCarthy had a good
day yesterday. Maybe what else do you have?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Uh? How about is the Cowboys head coaching job desirable?
According to Troy Aikman, No said that last night, but
I still think it is. Well, we'll talk about him,
all right, Got another one for me?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Uh sure?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
How about how much money has Sam Darnold lost in
the last two weeks? A ton a bunch. Somebody's still
getting paid big time.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
What if you had that metal detector guy goes out
on the field after the game? You know, those guys
are on the beach walking around like, damn, these aren't coins.
These are one hundred dollars bills that I'm picking up here.
I felt bad for him because you don't root against somebody,
and he was a good story. It just felt like
he was shell shocked when he was going back to
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pass after the fourth or fifth sack. You almost go
back going where's it coming from? And the last thing
you want to do as a quarterback is be thinking
about getting sacked. Now, you need to know where pressure's
coming from. There's a difference of where's it coming from
or which guy is going to make me hurt? And
that was the feeling I had with the Rams last night.
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But give them credit. That's tying an NFL playoff record
with nine sacks, putting the pressure therefore taking the pressure
off the Rams offense. We'll take a break, we'll come back.
We'll talk about the situation with Dion, with Jerry Jones,
with Mike McCarthy, and asked the question will Mike McCarthy
be a head coach in the NFL this next season?
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Speaker 2 (16:02):
We'll settle on our poll question. The Cowboys and Mike
McCarthy have parted ways. Why did it take so long?
You didn't let him interview with the Chicago Bears And
I just kept under trying to understand what exactly is
going on here. Then there was a report that they
started negotiations. Then there was another report that they hadn't
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started negotiations, and then we kept wondering, are you missing
out on that window to be able to interview Let's
say you want to interview Ben Johnson of the Alliance,
but you missed that opportunity because now this week he
has to prepare for their next opponent, the Commanders or
Aaron Glenn, whoever, you know, any of these coaching candidates.
And I don't know if they were interested in Mike Brabel.
(16:46):
It feels like Mike Brabel was going to the Patriots
and that was a done deal. But are you interested
in Ben Johnson? I'm going to read you something that
Tim Callishaw Dallas Morning News. He'll join us coming up
a little bit later on, and he talked about Dak Prescott, like, really,
the person you're hiring has to be able to fix
Dak Prescott, who I think is around thirty two now,
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had injuries, and Tim Callishaw says, Dak cannot run anymore.
He had twenty four rushing yards through seven games when
he tried to turn back the clock against Atlanta, rushing
for thirty yards on three carries. The next thing you know,
he was having hamstring surgery done for the year. Calashaw
then goes on to say, that's twenty six games Dak
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Prescott is missed in the last five seasons, So that's
just short of one third of the Cowboys' schedule. Immobile
and injury prone question mark. Jerry Jones can't even afford
to ponder those issues right now. Dak Prescott's two hundred
and thirty one million dollars guaranteed deal. The owner can
think only in terms of how to fix his quarterback.
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Who is best to equip to do that? Figure that out,
and the Cowboys at least have a shot at getting
back in the hunt. Fail on that front in his
ninth coaching higher, and Jerry Jones is just spinning the
wheels on his one storied and now lapping stock franchise
one more time. You got to bring in an offensive
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minded person, correct or you got to bring in a
great offensive coordinator, somebody who's going to fix Dak Prescott. Well,
how do you fix a guy who can no longer run?
Injury prone? Missing almost a third of his games, and
the expectation level is cowboy like and that is let's
get back to the playoffs, Let's get back to a
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title game, Let's get back to his super Bowl. Here.
I know Dion Sanders and Jerry loves shiny objects. Dion
is a shiny object. But is he the right person
for this job. I think Dion is great at being
a CEO, and by that I mean I don't know
if he's a great coach. As much as he can
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run something, he can oversee something. I think he can
hold people accountable. But I don't know if this is
a situation where you go Dion. I don't think Dion
makes Dak Prescott better. And I don't know if this
story is real. Who does it benefit for this to
get out Jerry, Well, Jerry just wants, you know, publicity. Hey,
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we're trying. We're trying. Everybody reaching out to Dion. People
said Dion, you should reach out to Dion. Him reaching
out to him, it helps Deon. What if Dion says, hey,
I said, I'm committed to Colorado, I'm going to be
staying here, Like if I'm a recruit, I want to know,
are you really committed to this? And then there was
(19:45):
a report maybe the Raiders and Tom Brady. There was
another report that it's not going to happen. Dion is
not a candidate for the Raiders. So is Dion a
candidate for the Cowboys as of this morning? I would
say he is, but I don't know the you know,
the full validity of that. Is it true, is it accurate?
(20:06):
Is it real? And I think that's what we have
to kind of sort out. And Tim Callishaw, Will John
is coming up at the top of next hour, and
I don't know, you know, Dion and Jerry are good friends.
Is it a good story or is it a good situation,
a real situation? And what happened with Mike McCarthy. I
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kept reading that they wanted to extend. They were going
to extend in for one more year, one more year.
That was it. And if you're Mike McCarthy, that's a
slap in the face. I mean, you're a borderline Hall
of Fame coach, you won a Super Bowl, you got
a pretty impressive resume, and Jerry's gonna treat you like that?
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Does he really want you? It's like you're gonna get divorced.
You don't want somebody to date the person that you're divorcing,
but then you don't want to keep that team, that person.
That's the feeling I get. Mike McCarthy. We questioned the
hiring from the beginning. I thought he did a pretty
good job. But Jerry doesn't want see Dion. I think
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would he would return fire on Jerry. I think that
he would. He would question things, at least I would
hope that he would. If you want to go in
there and succeed, you have to be able to stand
up to Jerry and say no. And nobody's done that.
He's hired people who won't do that, can't do that,
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not willing to do that. Dion's different. But you got
to fix Dak Prescott because you gave him all that
money and you're stuck with him. Two hundred and thirty
one million dollars for a guy who's thirty two and
injury prone. It's not a great situation. And you got
to pay Micah Parsons, you paid C. D. Lamb. So
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you have a couple of nice, shiny objects, but what
do you really have. It's like a necklace where you have,
you know, three or four beautiful pearls and everything else
is artificial and that's sort of where the Cowboys are.
You know, the Commanders, they're in the playoffs, the Eagles
in the playoffs. Then you have the Cowboys and you
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have the Giants. Will the Giants figure it out? Will
they figure it out before the Cowboys do? Yeah, Pauling,
I want to.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Go back to Mike McCarthy and I'm going to present
you a theory and let me know what you think
of it. Is there any chance, because we don't believe
in mutual breakups, someone walks in the room with the
agenda to leave or to stay. Is it possible that
Mike McCarthy spent this past week looking at the situation,
asked for way too much, or also saw that it's
going to be a short term ish contract and said,
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I'm going to keep asking for things until Jerry says no.
Then I can exit here without saying I quit or left.
And there are other options for me the Chicago or
other that will give me a five year deal with
a full contract and a real GM. Is there any
chance Mike McCarthy was the person who made this happen.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Well, I think you can ask for it out of
professional pride, I would say to Jerry, I want three
years here. I can't go year to year because if
you're a player, you just, whether it's consciously or subconsciously,
you lose respect for the situation. Like that coach, he
doesn't think enough of him to give him security. It's
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like what they did with the Bears with Matt Eberflus.
It's like they're blamed uck, you're not going to be
back here. And Mike McCarthy has he's earned more than
just hey, we're going to keep you around for another year.
And I don't blame Mike. You know, maybe he will benefit,
maybe he will get a long term deal. I just
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don't know. You know, there's a report this morning that
you know, maybe the Bears are going to go after
Pete Carroll. Okay, so then the Raiders aren't going to
bring in Mike McCarthy. Is Ben Johnson going to go there?
Do you want the Saints? John Is that available for him? See,
you start to look at these there's a reason why
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these teams have openings. The Saint situation doesn't seem like
it's a really winnable situation. So I don't know if
he's coaching next year, even with that experience, that resume
I'm not bringing him in unless it's that guy is
(24:26):
the right guy for our team. Well, I think he's
the right guy for an experienced team, but a team
that he can also be the head coach of and
not be a puppet. And Dallas he was a puppet.
And this is you know, Jerry's m O. But I
don't think Mike McCarthy. I would be surprised if he's
coaching next season. And then the bear situation with Pete Carroll. Okay,
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I heard he did. He had a great interview. Now
it's rare when you don't. When you hear Boyce somebody
had a terrible interview, you're always hearing man, he had
a great interview. I don't know what that means, you know,
don't did you pick up the check? Like what happened?
Where you go? Man? That's a great interview.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yes, Mike Rabel was on his introductory press conference yesterday
with the Patriots and talked about his first ever coaching
interview is for Ervin Meyer in Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And he goes, I blew it. I was terrible.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
I didn't have anything prepared. I didn't know what he's
going to ask, he said, I blew my first job interview.
He was very candidate about it yesterday.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
But this is where you have these coaching candidates who
go in and then they find out how to interview
and that it helps them down the road. And I
think that's where we look at the Rooney rule and
sometimes you say, well, that candidate's not going to get
the job, but you do get the experience of what
that's like to go in and interview. And I always
go back to Mike Tomlin when he went in there,
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and he might have been just a we got to
bring in this guy the Rooney rule. We got to
interview a minority when he came in and blew everybody away,
And maybe you get that opportunity. But I don't know
if Mike McCarthy's going to come in and go, hey,
I'm your answer here. I don't believe that. But you know,
maybe I'm jaded because what happened in Dallas, it just
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felt like we were looking at Mike and you didn't
really see the head coach on the sidelines. You just
saw a guy who that was his title. Eight seven
seven three DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle at DP show. We'll talk to Tim Kalishaw
Dallas Morning News. He'll join us top of the hour. Also,
Kurt Warner will stop by. He was on the call
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of the game last night. Jay in North Carolina, Good morning, Jay,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (26:34):
Hey Dan, longtime listener.
Speaker 13 (26:35):
I love you guys.
Speaker 12 (26:37):
I had two thoughts and one was a T shirt idea.
When the Chiefs complete that three p damn three pay?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
All right? Well, thank you Jay.
Speaker 12 (26:52):
If the Rams upset the Eagles, imagine the Rams and
Lions to go to the Super Bowl. Stafford could rip
the hearts out of a Lion fans.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
That would be tough. If you're a Lions fan, Stafford
goes wins the Super Bowl, then you feel great about
your team and then here comes Matthew Stafford again. Rip
your heart out. Brent in Georgia, Hi Brent, what's on
your mind? Abp out the going? Hey?
Speaker 13 (27:22):
All right, So I think what you saw last night
is why Sam Darnold has been regulated as a career back.
The dude has a tail, and any defense can see it.
I can see it from my couch. The dude gets
scared to death in big moments and it's all over
his face. And a defense is going to eat that up.
So while he may be good in regular season when
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the pressure is not high, he's those good numbers, has
all these good numbers. You have to look at more
than just numbers. And the guy just don't have it
in big moments and a defense is going to just
tear him up. And I think that's his and he
can't hide it. He shows it all over his face.
And I think that's why he really called himself a
(28:04):
butler of money last night.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Oh he did? Yeah, I think so. Like that was
a perception game. We kept saying, Okay, can he erase
what happened against the Lions? Can he zero in win
this game? That you were a favorite and they had
it on a neutral site in Arizona and he looked overwhelmed.
But give credit to the Rams. They overwhelmed him as well.
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Tim and Iowa hide Tim, what's on your mind.
Speaker 14 (28:31):
More than Dan? How we doing today?
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Goodbye?
Speaker 8 (28:35):
Good hey? Real quick?
Speaker 14 (28:36):
Just a different perspective on this game last night, and
that is I realize with every sack Sam Darnold lost money,
but he lost twice this year to the same team
and the Lions and the Rams. I don't think there's
enough onus being put on the coaching staff for not
being ready to have an offensive line game plan to
protect him, to allow him to do his job correctly.
(28:58):
I mean, I know he didn't look good, He looked scared,
he was tentative. But I mean, isn't Koc this great
offensive mind. How did he not have the defense package
up front to block for these defenses they're coming at him,
especially after he just saw how Aaron Glenn got at
him the week before. I just to me it was
more of a coaching issue to put Sam in a
position where he was just getting beaten all day.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, I think it's fair fair to bring that up.
And you're right with Kevin O'Connell, and if we can
get him on, I would ask him that what did
you see against the Lions that maybe you weren't aware
of that the Rams were going to do the same thing.
But Sam didn't play well. It comes down to the quarterback.
(29:40):
If he played well, we'd be talking about Sam Darnold
made himself money. But he didn't.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah, right, I mean that's sort of like the problem
was compounded, where you know, when he was getting sacked,
he was getting hit hard to it seemed likely he
wasn't just getting taken down, he was getting crushed. But
even then on those moments where he was able to
get the ball out, he either overthrew the ball through
it behind somebody. He wasn't even making the simple plays
that he has to make.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, and I do I have to, you know, factor
in Kevin O'Connell, because I've said he's a great coach,
probably going to be Coach of the year, offensive minded guy,
former quarterback. You got to find something because it felt
like they kept doing the same thing and the Rams
had no reason to alter their scheme. Andrew in Washington morning, Andrew, Hey.
Speaker 15 (30:29):
Good morning, Dan Dennets, Thanks for taking my call. Yeah,
I had a comment on Sam Darnold too. I think
during last night's broadcast it was brought up how when
pressure would come he would run out of the pocket
instead of just maybe take a step up and slide,
which then he would keep his gaze downfield to his
open wide receivers who's missing, you know, wide open wide receivers.
So you know that's something like Sam seeing ghost Donald
(30:53):
back in the day of New York Jets. I mean,
I think that's what we saw, and that's what the
previous caller had talked about my question is lose that
much money? The reason being is we were just talking
a few weeks ago about how you know, forty one
point three million guaranteed franchise tag would be a steal
for him, So that was what he was going to get.
Is he not going to get a contract that has
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more than forty million dollars guaranteed after this?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Well, that's what Paulie keeps saying. PAULI would like to
spin it that Sam Donald will still get paid, but
probably by somebody else.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Yeah, I think that's a good call. I was going
to say that he will probably not get franchise tag.
He might not be a Viking next year, but this
may open the door for the free agent become of
the free agent class because the free agent class this
year is terrible. The other top people are like Justin
Fields and Desmond Ritter and Kyle Trask and Drew Locke.
Those are the free agents, and it's also a small
(31:47):
quarterback draft his depth. Sam Darnald may actually get to
test the free agent market this year and get He
may get three years, seventy million dollars from a blank team,
but at least there's a future there if he stays
in three for seventy, Well, I'm just saying, like, let's
say it was a low end contract.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Well, that's that's backup quarterback. Almost three for seventy. He's
getting twenty you know, twenty three million dollars. Yeah, he
made ten million this year. He's gonna make if somebody
signs him, he'll make probably you know, thirty eight to
forty five million dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
And feel that and there's more chance now that he
will not be franchise tagged right.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
That I don't know, you know, if they say JJ
McCarthy's healthy and I have no idea, that's the great mystery.
It was a mystery that they were all in on
him because we never saw him be put the game
on my back, I'm gonna win games for you. At Michigan,
he was just a really good college quarterback. I'm assuming
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that Kevin O'Connell knows, you know, that what he has
with him, and he will be a starting quarterback, a
great quarterback, or at least the potential to be great. Yeah,
I have looking.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Let's see this year, Gino Smith getting twenty five Okay,
he's Sam Donald is gonna get more than that. Yes,
Baker Mayfield is at thirty three. Yeah, Derek Carr and
Aaron Rodgers are at thirty seven and a half each.
I guess you could stop me when you think we're
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going to get to where Sam Donald.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Oh, I think it's right in that that neighborhood Dafford
is that forty? I think it's thirty five. Well, it's
also the next guy up as well with all you know,
Aaron Rodgers, when did he sign that contract? When did
Derek Carr sign that contract? And so where are Maybe
it's you know, upper thirties for Sam Donald.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Yeah, he's also at the timing it out with other
next guys up who shouldn't have been paid, probably like
Kirk Cousins has been run out. He was the next
guy up. Probably shouldn't have gotten that money, right, No, No,
I mean obviously Deshaun Watson hasn't worked out.
Speaker 11 (34:04):
That wasn't great. Let's let's wait.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Till give it time, give it time, Let's wait till
he comes back for the second Achilles surgery. There, Yeah,
all right, let me take a break. Got our play
of the day up next. More on the Cowboys situation
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Mike McCarthy has had at He's had eleven seasons of
ten or more wins in his career. The Bears have
(35:44):
had three seasons of ten or more wins period. But
I don't think that he is attractive to the Bears
fan base, not that you have to try to placate them.
You want to get the right guy, and if you
get the right guy, then they'll accept him. But Mike McCarthy,
how many coaches have had eleven seasons of ten or
(36:04):
more wins in their careers? We should check on that
the Bears have had three seasons of ten or more wins.
But it feels like and I don't know how legitimate
this is, but Pete Carroll was getting. It feels like
a lot of traction with Chicago. I was told last
night that Ben Johnson the Raiders makes more sense because
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he doesn't want to go against the Lions and Dan
Campbell being in the same conference. Whether that's true or not,
I think also the allure of Tom Brady and Tom
Brady is making decisions with the Raiders. It feels like
he's making the decisions with the Raiders. Ben in Minnesota, Hi, Ben,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (36:48):
Good morning?
Speaker 15 (36:48):
Dan?
Speaker 8 (36:49):
Six?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Five?
Speaker 8 (36:51):
Yeah, I was just curious. I know, Sam Donald, he's
probably done as a Viking, but I'm just saying that
he's going to be totally thrown to the bus because
the deef since the coordinary. I'll coach both games against
the Rams and the Lions the last games that we
played them. And my other hope is that I'm hoping
Jefferson doesn't become the next Viking receiver who wants to
get out of town, you know more Row's what happened
(37:11):
with Diggs and Moss.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, I did think about that last night.
Speaker 13 (37:16):
Ben.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's like at some point, you know, and receivers have
been enabled, like they're like, I you know what, I
want this, I want out. I'm not happy with this.
I don't know if Justin Jefferson is, you know, that's
his personality. But I did wonder about that last night,
yess Mark.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
Yeah, So the pressure is going to be on JJ
McCarthy if they get rid of Sam Darnold, because it's
gonna be a JJ. It's your responsibility to give us
another thirteen fourteen one season and to keep Justin Jefferson happy.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Uh, John and Cincinnati, Hi John, Dan.
Speaker 16 (37:49):
Thank you very much, appreciate the time. Just curious your perspective.
Why is Ryan Day never mentioned in any of these
coaching searches. It seems like every year there's three or
four college coaches, and as successful as he's been, he's
just never really mentioned.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I don't know that I suggested that he would have
been a better hire in Jacksonville than urban Meyer. But
I had heard that from a scout that if you're
going to try to develop Trevor Lawrence, urban Meyer is
not the guy. Now, of course it was a disaster.
I don't know if Ryan Day aspires to do that.
I don't like he might just be a college coach,
(38:25):
but I suggested that he would have been a better
higher than urban Meyer.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Yeah, pum, I had to look up Ryan Day's resume,
but he was a college coach for years and years,
and then twenty fifteen he was the Eagles quarterbacks coach.
In twenty sixteen, he was a Niners quarterbacks coach right
before he went back to Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
M So maybe he does want that eventually. Maybe if
he wins a national title, he'd put it out there.
But you know, they're reaching out to Marcus Freeman reportedly
instead of Ryan Day. Sean in Oregon. Hey Sean, what's
on your mind?
Speaker 8 (39:00):
Well, Sam Donald, that's on my mind a little bit.
Speaker 12 (39:03):
And you know, I'm thinking that he is what he is.
You know, he's been a backup quarterback and I think
he's probably gonna go back to being a backup quarterback.
I mean, I don't think these guys are going to
try to make him like a like. You see the
nervous energy on that guy. You see the panic. It
looks like he's running out of a fire. A good
quarterback doesn't do that. A good quarterback is always like calm, cool, collective,
(39:25):
and he's comfortable in chaos. You'll never see Joe Burrow
or Joe Montana, Russell Wilson, he wouldn't have a look.
Speaker 8 (39:32):
On his face like that. And I just I'm not
buying into this.
Speaker 12 (39:36):
I think people get a small sample size and they
think they know what's going on. They see a few
games here, they see a few games there, and this
is just not gonna It's just not gonna work out. Dan,
I just don't believe in it. I'm not going to
buy into it at all.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Well, I don't think you can accidentally throw thirty five
touchdown passes. So I have to be fair to Sam Darnald.
He was in a bad situation with the Jets and
then you get relegated to a backup quarterback and he
got kicked to the curb, and you know, then he
ends up in San Francisco's a backup quarterback, and then
Minnesota is like, I mean, if they thought that much
(40:11):
about Sam, they wouldn't have drafted JJ McCarthy because JJ
McCarthy is what three years younger than him. So it's
not like you're saying, hey, we got this guy and
we're gonna get you know, he's old and he'll give
us one or two years. You weren't, you know, completely
sold and you probably bought brought him in for an
insurance policy. With JJ McCarthy, I don't think that's going
(40:32):
to be the case. I think Sam Darnold would get
paid and we're gonna then find out just how good
he is, because the teams that need quarterbacks are the
teams that aren't very good. Seaton update the poll results
from the first hour. If you can, yeah, we.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Got up there right now, is the Cowboys head coaching
job a desirable job right now? Your options there at
yes or no. Right now, seventy eight percent of the
audience have it as a no, not a desirable job.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
It's still the coach of the Cowboys. You may not
like the quarterback, you may not like the owner, but
you like the title. And you got to be wired
to be able to be the head coach. Either you're
a very submissive person and you're going to allow to
be bossed around by Jerry, or are you going to
be able to stand up and say to Jerry you
(41:25):
want me to coach, let me coach. If not, go
out and find somebody else who is going to listen
and do everything that you ask them to do. We'll
talk to Tim Callishaw the Dallas Morning News. Kurt Warner
will stop by as well. One Hour in the Books,
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