January 14, 2025 • 41 mins
Cowboys insider Tim Cowlishaw joins DP with the latest on their coaching search after Jerry Jones let go of HC Mike McCarthy and weighs in on the idea that Deion Sanders is being considered to replace him. And Hall of Fame NFL QB Kurt Warner drops by to break down the NFL Wild Card Weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Hour two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Ns Dan Patrick Show,
just how dangerous are the rams? Asked the Minnesota Vikings
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dot com, Twitter handle at dpshow you can doubt us up?
Operator Tyler sitting by people fired up about the Vikings
moving forward? Are they moving forward with Sam Darnold or
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are they going to let him go free agency market?
The Cowboys situation, they need a new head coach. Tim
Callashaw Dallas Morning News columnists will join us here. Momentarily,
Tim rode a column and he starts the column out
by saying, Dak Prescott's season one, that began with an
agreement that glorious morning in Cleveland that made him the
highest paid player in NFL history, was his worst in
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nine years with the Cowboys. It lasted eight games, His
statistics were poor, The team's record three and five was worse. That,
above all else, is the reason Mike McCarthy is looking
for a job today. The headline is, if Jerry Jones
doesn't get a coach to fix Dak Prescott, Cowboys will
remain a laughing stock. I don't know if you get
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somebody to fix a guy who's injury prone and thirty
two years of age coming off hamstring surgery, this is
who he is. He can't run anymore, so he's got
to be a great pocket passer. Who are you bringing
in that's gonna say, let me make him a great
pocket passer?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yes, he and by not I'm not gonna say getting
You didn't get rid of Mike McCarthy, but you didn't
bring him back. Maybe it's the right way to say that, right,
It does kind of appear from the outside that the
Cowboys don't really have a plan.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Unless they do, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Maybe they already had a plan b a coach in waiting, like, ah,
if Mike doesn't resign, we're gonna go with this guy.
But it does appear that they don't really have a plan,
especially with everything that you just mentioned about the quarterback situation.
You got a bunch of other high price players. What's
the direction that they're going in as a franchise.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well, I think we've been able to say that the
last thirty years. What direction are they going in now?
Have they had success? Yes? But if you're a Cowboy fan.
Success is winning championships, not getting to the postseason, not
ending up with thirteen wins, bowing out to the Green
Bay Packers in an embarrassing fashion last year, and also
with Mike McCarthy. He deserved better. I was curious how
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many coaches in NFL history have had at least eleven
seasons with ten wins or more. Don Shula had twenty
seasons with at least ten wins, Belichick had twenty, Andy
Reid nineteen, Tom Landry sixteen. And then it's Mike Tomlin,
Marty Schottenheimer, John Harbaugh, and Mike McCarthy. Whoa stand Stalla
(03:01):
day Stantata day.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
This is the stule of the day.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So Mike has carved out a borderline hall of fame resume.
Feels like, you know, Sean Payton has had ten of
these seasons, Tony Dungee had ten. You know, going down
this list, shoule a Hall of famer. Belichick is reed, Landry, Tomlin,
John Harball is probably going to be a Hall of Famer.
Sean Payton probably a Hall of Famer, Tony Dungee is
a Hall of famer. Mike McCarthy's in this group. He's
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in the neighborhood here. I just don't know if we
look at out of all of those coaches, do you
look at him with the same reverence that you do
the others. And I would have thought, hey, Mike McCarthy
coming in there, will he stand up to Jerry Jones?
And he didn't. I mean he did succeed until he
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loses his quarterback and then it went south after that.
But if you're going to offer him a one year
deal that's what was reported, Well, your professional pride is
I don't want to be hanging, you know, I don't
want to be just in limbo. And that's not fair
to Mike McCarthy. You either want him or you don't. Yes, Marvin, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
For the Cowboys, don't you think they need somebody who's
a culture changer, because right now the Cowboys are just
the Kardashians. They're just famous for being famous. Whoa like,
what's their culture? It's uncertainty and being famous.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So is Jerry Kim thinks he's Chris Jenner, like the
ringleader jen Oh, the mominger. Correct, yes see.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Right, but the culture is the owner who's gonna come
in and change him?
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Nobody yeah, you're right, Yes, Marvin Well, I was gonna say,
d I might have enough cachet ay if you want me,
this is how I need to run things. But do
you think do you think Jerry Jones is gonna stop
being Jerry Jones holding press conferences after games, doing his
radio show, two radio shows, like.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
He loves this stuff. He can't get enough of this stuff.
And then Dion's gonna come in and look, Dion loves
to self promote, but he's gonna be working for the
ultimate self promoter in the NFL. But we'll talk to
Tim Callishaw coming up. Kurt Warner was on the call
last night. He will join us coming up as well.
Mark Sanchez from Fox Sports will stop by. So Bears, Cowboys, Jags, Jets, Raiders, Saints.
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Does Mike McCarthy get another head coaching opportunity? And I
don't know if this is true or not. I'm trying
to verify this. Are the Bears zeroing in on Pete Carroll?
That's interesting? Interesting? What does he You can't mention his
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name without his age? Is he seventy three? Like you
get to a certain point in your life and you're
that's part of your name. It's like seventy three year
old Pete Carroll, Like, at what point did it become
your age and then your name Pete's the middle name.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
It does feel though anything the Bears do is poked
apart by their fans in the media. You interview Pete Carroll,
but you don't interview Bill Belichick. Last year, you know
you everything they do seems backwards. Last year, you interview nobody.
This year you're adding people every day. They're up to
thirteen head coaching interviews. You didn't get the called in,
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did you? If you did you love? I did not.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
No. I turned it down. I said, I'm sorry, I
took your name out of consideration. I can't. I can't
change the culture here. All right. Let's see Tom in
North Carolina. Hi, Tom, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (06:48):
Hey, DP, I got a hot take on the Vikings.
Speaker 9 (06:51):
It's not really a real hot.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
Take, but I think that what Kevin O'Connell did with
Sam Donald this year. I think Daniel Jones will be
the starter next year and in the new Darland.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Well, I don't think he's going to be the Darling,
but he might be a bridge quarterback there. Tom, thank you.
He's getting loose. He had a statement it was you know,
he waited until he got on the air before he
cleared his croke. Jim Callashaw, Dallas Morning News sports columnist,
He's got it easy. He's always got something to write about,
(07:29):
and here you go, right on a platter.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
All.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I think he wrote two columns like you're on fire
with what's going on here. So let me start with
is the Dion possibility a true possibility in your opinion?
Speaker 10 (07:45):
In my opinion, Dad, thanks for having me, I think no.
Speaker 11 (07:51):
But given it it's Jerry Jones, I'm certainly not going
to rule it out there. There's something about the allure
of doing something like that that would appeal to him. However,
I just think he's going to try to find somebody,
somebody else.
Speaker 10 (08:09):
You know, when you look at Dion after two years,
what is his record of Colorado About five hundred, barely
over it, And I just I don't think that's going
to be I don't.
Speaker 11 (08:21):
Think this team is needs a motivator, and I think
Dion's stuff works better in college than it will in
the NFL.
Speaker 10 (08:28):
I think this team needs a coach, and it needs
different schemes, and it needs new ideas.
Speaker 11 (08:34):
And I'm not saying Dion couldn't bring that, but I
think Dion's greatest strength works better at college players.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And you bring this up in your column. You're saying
you got to fix Dak Prescott. Tim that's going to
be difficult for a guy who's injury prone, making that
kind of money and is a pocket quarterback and is
thirty two years of age. I don't know who can
fix that.
Speaker 10 (08:55):
You find those aspects troubling the fact that he's two
thirds of the games.
Speaker 11 (09:05):
Yeah, and that's why you know I've thrown out Cliff kingsbred.
Ben Johnson is everybody's first choice, and nobody has any
idea what he would be like.
Speaker 10 (09:14):
As a head coach. But everybody loves Detroit's offense. But
you go through Detroit's offense.
Speaker 11 (09:19):
Player by player, and you know Dallas doesn't win anywhere
except maybe maybe Ceedee Lamb is a notch higher than
a Mode raw, but it's not much if it is
at all. And yeah, but if you're the Cowboys, if
you're Jerry Jones, you have to hope.
Speaker 10 (09:37):
All you can do after signing back to that contract is.
Speaker 11 (09:40):
Hope you get three or four mostly healthy years out
of him and who can put together the best offense
that he can thrive in. I think that has to
be the target here.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
What happened here in the last two weeks with Mike McCarthy,
I don't.
Speaker 11 (09:58):
Know that anything did. I mean the fact that they
met every day last week. You know, I do feel
for Mike McCarthy sitting through those meetings. The sun never
sets on a Jerry Jones conversation. They just go on
and on and and you know, in Jerry's world, they
didn't even get to contracts till the last day, So
I don't know what in the world they they talked about.
(10:22):
I think Jerry's mind was probably made up. If they
didn't do better in the playoffs this year, no matter,
no matter how that happened, he needed to go in another direction.
It's five years, it's one playoff win, one playoff win
over an eight and nineteen.
Speaker 10 (10:37):
So you know, I don't think anything went wrong McCarthy.
Speaker 11 (10:42):
Actually, I've got coached the hell out of him after
Dak left and the way they played down the stretch,
and they could have won the Cincinnati game, and they
could have won obviously.
Speaker 10 (10:52):
Could have won the Washington game. But while Dak was here.
There were three and five and they were a mess.
And you know.
Speaker 11 (11:00):
I just think after five years he had to go
look for another another voice, try something else.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Okay, but why didn't Jerry make the decision when you
had the window of opportunities to Ben Johnson?
Speaker 11 (11:12):
Because he doesn't operate though way. He likes to drag
his speed and take a week give us headlines for
talk shows and things like that. I don't really think
I just mentioned Ben Johnson. I don't think he will
hire Ben Johnson. I don't think the quiet, soft spoken,
brainy offensive coordinator. They had one of those of Keli
(11:34):
Borr and I don't think that's Jerry's idea of the
head coach. So I'll be if Ben Johnson becomes a
serious candidate. I would be very surprised.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Any chance that Mike McCarthy had a good day yesterday, yeah, I.
Speaker 10 (11:53):
Would think so.
Speaker 11 (11:54):
I mean, look, he's been here five years, so he's
made thirty five or forty millions, not badly here, it.
Speaker 10 (12:01):
Might be, and he turned it down whatever it was.
Speaker 12 (12:04):
A one year offer supposedly.
Speaker 10 (12:06):
For about the same money.
Speaker 11 (12:08):
He's confident he'll get the Bear's job or another job
or sit out a year and try again.
Speaker 10 (12:14):
And he's not a bad coach.
Speaker 11 (12:16):
I just don't think I don't think he enhanced whatever
his reputation was before coming here.
Speaker 10 (12:23):
I don't think he enhanced it in these five years.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Well, he kind of got neutered there, and I don't
know if he was ever viewed as a coach that
was submissive.
Speaker 10 (12:32):
It's always difficult here.
Speaker 11 (12:36):
Parcels is the only hire since Jimmy that Jerry has
sort of taken a couple of steps back and let
him be the head coach. You know, it's appalling to
me that, you know, Jerry Jones does Jerry Jones does
his postgame press conference at home games at the same
time Mike McCarthy's talking, and there's like me and four
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other people and Mike mc arthy's roof and everybody else
is down around there. Just think of what that does,
not just to the head coach, but to the signal.
It sends to all the players walking out. They know
who the authority figure here is.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Okay, Tim, If I said to Jerry Jones, you can't
talk to the media, you don't do any more interviews
for the next five years, but I'll guarantee you you
win one more super Bowl?
Speaker 11 (13:26):
Oh oh, he's talked about how much money he says
he would spend, although he doesn't really spend it.
Speaker 10 (13:32):
That would be a difficult one.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
No radio shows, nothing.
Speaker 10 (13:36):
This man does two radio shows a week.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Then, Oh, I know, and he'd do more probably if
he could.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
I mean, he'd like to do drive time.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
He would like to host three to six.
Speaker 10 (13:50):
Going Home with Jerry, but that would be a yeah
at this point. At this point, it is ten year
here on this planet. I don't think he's I don't
think he's going that maybe here.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Oh, he couldn't do it. He could not do it.
He loves it, he's addicted to it, and he wants
everybody to know that he knows what he's doing. Just
trust me. I got a plan. It's been good hands,
great to talk to you as always, and probably check
in with you again soon because you're going to eventually
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get a head coach here.
Speaker 10 (14:27):
May we'll have a head coach. We'll see who that is.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Thank you to all right. That's Tim Callishaw, star of
Around the Horn. He also gets around to doing uh,
Dallas morning news columnist work. There you imagine you say
to Jerry Jerry can't say work, no interviews, you know,
no features here, no documentaries, no nothing, and you're going
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to win another Super Bowl? Well, how long do I
have to not talk?
Speaker 10 (14:56):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, it's interesting what Tim said there because he said
that he doesn't think that a guy like Ben Johnson
sort of like a quiet, brainy type guy, is Jerry Jones'
style of coach. Maybe that's exactly what they need. Jerry
is the star, He's the guy up front. You don't
need a larger than life personality to also combat that,
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you know what I mean, or to go alongside of that.
There's really only room for one guy in the camera there.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
But here's the problem I have with it that, yes,
that is the reality of this, but I got to
bring in somebody who will stand up to Jerry because
Jerry has made some decisions that aren't the right decisions
or at the right time, but nobody stands up to him.
They're like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
It kind of feels like they just had that guy
who came in with a certain amount of like I
don't know if it's cachet or certainly coaching history, where
you're not really going to tell me how to do this.
Because I'm the guy who knows how to do that.
I don't know that standing up to Jerry and pushing
back works there either, does it.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I don't think that Mike McCarthy stood up to him.
I don't think so. Now he might say no, I did.
I picked my spots. Maybe, but I can't imagine. You know,
Jerry has a type. You know, it's like when guy goes, oh,
I got a type of woman that I Jerry has
a type of coach, and that's what he wants. He
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is if he could play quarterback, he'd play quarterback. Your owner,
your GM, you're the mouthpiece for the friend. It's it's
not changing anytime soon. And we said, do you sign
Dak Prescott to that contract? I wouldn't have he did.
He waited a long time. Ceedee Lamb is a star.
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Can you feature him enough? I wouldn't have brought back
Zeke Elliott. Now have they had some good drafts? They have?
Now you got to pay Michael Parsons. He's gonna want
forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Yeah, Pauline, remember a couple of years ago, maybe two
three years ago, when they had the assistant coaches Dan
Quinn and Kellen Moore, and they're like, don't let either
of those guys out of the building. Don't let them go.
You'd rather hire one of them and bounce Mike McCarthy.
Then you can't bring back Dan Quinn. He's all set
in Washington, he's going nowhere. He's set. But Kellen Moore
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is the offensive coordinator of the Eagles. He's very young still.
He looks like he's twelve. I think he's like under forty.
That seems like a guy that.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
But if okay, But Kyle O. Shawn says, you got
to fix Dak Prescott. You can't fix somebody who's thirty
two in an injury prone. You just can't. And the
offensive line is not like the Lions or the Eagles.
The offensive line used to be great. It's not. You
don't have a dangerous running back. You got Cede Lamb,
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You've got a couple of impact players on defense. I
don't I don't know if you can bring in And
is it a culture changer or is it somebody who's
going to come in and be able to fix Dak Prescott?
Can you get both? All right, We'll take a break.
We'll talk to Kurt Oorner. He was on the call
last night, and we'll talk to him about just how
(18:11):
dangerous the rams are and what does he expect to
happen in Dallas back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2 (19:26):
Kurt Warner Hall of Famer. You can catch him on
NFL Networks Game Day Morning. He was on the call
for Westwood one Radio last night with the wild Card
game between the vikings of the Rams. Kurt, good to
see you again. What did you expect pregame was going
to happen last night?
Speaker 12 (19:42):
Yeah? There, I wish I knew. I didn't really know
what to expect.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
You know, anytime you throw you know, everything that was
thrown at the Rams into this week, including you know,
issues with your family and maybe friends of yours. I
don't think you ever really know how team is going
to respond. They are going to grow together. But I
think Sean McVay did an unbelievable job. Give some credit
to the Cardinals. I thought they did an unbelievable job
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of welcoming the Rams. And making them feel at home.
But what a performance. I mean, they came out from
the get go and they dominated that game. And I
think oftentimes when you have situations like this, Dan, it
goes one of two ways, right, and you find out
pretty early whether a team is ready to play or
whether their mind is on something else. And we saw
very early that the Rams were ready to play.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Okay, let's look at Sam Darnald because we know his
future could be at stake in Minnesota these last two games.
What did you see from Sam Donald that you didn't
see in the other games this season.
Speaker 12 (20:38):
Well, first of all, we'll put it on the team
as a whole.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I thought Minnesota got physically dominated in both games. So
that's the first issue is And it wasn't just upfront.
Sometimes it was on the back end with the receivers
as well. But maybe the biggest thing for me was
Sam and I kind of saw it all year long,
was his struggles with pressure, you know, understanding when pressure
is coming and having answers for that pressure. Sometimes that
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answer isn't even just a completion, but it's just saving
some yards. You know. There was that situation in the
fourth quarter last night where theyre what third and eight
or something like that, and he takes the huge sack.
I mean, in that situation you got to at least
set up for a field goal. So if nothing else,
throw the football away, maybe you go forward on fourth
down because you're in that situation. But there's too many
times this year of him just holding and taking negative plays,
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and those negative plays are just hard to overcome. So that,
to me was probably the biggest issue that I saw.
And then you have to ask yourself the question, as
I know everybody is, is okay, if you want to
keep him around, what does.
Speaker 12 (21:34):
That look like? What kind of commitment do you have
to make to him?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
And you know, in those big games, the two biggest
games of the year, he didn't play very well. Are
you willing to, you know, commit to him long term?
Speaker 12 (21:46):
You know? After seeing that?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
All right, I'll ask you play GM, would you keep
Sam Darnold if the price is right?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I would say yes, I would keep them with the
prices right, I think the question would be how long
do I have to keep him? And then the other factor,
dan is I don't really know what we have in
JJ McCarthy, Like I didn't see him in preseason. I
didn't know where he was. I don't know if you
know the Vikings were ready to start him after that
one preseason game, or if you know they hadn't seen
enough and Sam was the guy. So I feel like
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after watching them this year, they've got a good enough
team that they need.
Speaker 12 (22:20):
A guy at that position to make them competitive. Sam
made them.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
More than competitive all year long. But that, to me
is the question. I don't really know what you have
in JJ McCarthy. I didn't see enough in college. I
didn't see enough with the Vikings to know for sure.
If you feel like you have enough, then absolutely not,
you go with JJ and you move forward. But if
you're not sure, I think it's hard to let a
guy that did that well out of the building and
(22:46):
you say, Okay, so we saw one flaw or we
saw a flaw with our team.
Speaker 12 (22:49):
We need to fix that flaw.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
But if we do, we've got this quarterback that played
at a really, really high level.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Okay, but is this fixable. You're talking about pressure, Well,
every quarterback faces pressure. The difference is you welcomed pressure.
He seemed to be unnerved or very nerved by it,
like oh my god. And then you start to kind
of get out of your comfort zone. So can you
fix what you saw the last two games?
Speaker 11 (23:17):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I wish I knew the answer to that, but I'm
with you. I think there are some people that in
that moment, when pressure's on them, high stakes, they can
just slow the game down and make the right decision.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
I made a comment about Jayden Daniels from the night before,
and what I love.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
About Jaden Daniels is he makes the right decision in
the moment, even if he doesn't see it, even if
something's not open, He'll throw the football away, you know,
he'll take off and make a two or three yard
gain instead of taking these sacks.
Speaker 12 (23:44):
And here's a rookie that we're seeing do this.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
And so I've always wondered if that's something that truly
can be taught. You know, when you've got pressure around you,
or when the game speeds up, can you slow it
down and have that answer? I think, you know, I
think for the most part, if you're good at it,
you're good at it.
Speaker 12 (24:02):
Do you do?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I think you can help a quarterback, Sure, you can
help them by giving them some answers, But I don't
know if that's something that all of a sudden, we're
gonna see a quarterback that's not good against pressure become
great against pressure. I'm not sure that's something that's that
you can really learn.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
How threatening are the Rams.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I think they're they're scary, and I think they're scary
in a game where they can win the line of scrimmage,
and that to me.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Is but you're going against the Eagles now.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Exactly, and so that to me is where I feel
like the Rams could struggle a little bit as upfront.
Speaker 12 (24:37):
You know, if they can.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Handle it up front. They obviously have playmakers. They've got
a young front. I mean, nine sacks last night by
eight different guys. They've got lots of guys that can.
Speaker 12 (24:45):
Get after the quarterback. I just don't think Philly is
going to play that sort of game.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
So I think they are a dangerous team based on
what Matthew Staffer can do, the weapons that they have,
But it has to be more their their way of
playing football, and I'm not sure they're to be able
to dictate that against Billy.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
He's the Hall of Famer Kurt Warner. You can see
him on NFL Game Day Mornings with Rich Eisending Company.
He was on the call last night the Vikings and
the Rams. If I said, you can have Jayden Daniels
moving forward or justin Herbert.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Oh, I'm taking Jade Daniels. I mean, no, no doubt
about it. I mean, I just I've seen that young
man play.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
It's quarterback k.
Speaker 12 (25:29):
Maybe just outside of that.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
But I'm probably only saying that because because he's a rookie,
right and because you know, against one year and one
body of work. But if I stacked up all the
things that he does well and put him up against
the top five quarterbacks in the league, it would be
hard for me to find five guys that do all
the things as well as Jayden Daniels has done this year,
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the critical moments, handed on pressure, just the consistency of
his technique the red zone. You know, normally you have
struggles in the red zone because everything gets tighter. He
has been phenomenal in the red zone last two minutes
of games in critical moments like it would be hard
to probably find five guys that have played consistently better
than him all year long.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I think you were twenty eight when you were a rookie.
Weren't you my first year playing?
Speaker 10 (26:17):
Yes, I was twenty Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, twenty eight the Bills in the Ravens and both
of these quarterbacks trying not to do too much. Like
you almost have to say to yourself, Okay, I still
got to be that same person that I've been all
season long or my career. But sometimes you want to
play outside of yourself. And sometimes we've seen where you
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know you're your own worst enemy. So how do you
have that seat belt on that says just stay within
yourself here?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I think the biggest thing, Dan is you don't predetermine
that you're going to do something that maybe the situation
doesn't dictate. You know, like if you drop back and
you're telling yourself, hey, I'm going to take off here
if if I see any kind of a window as
opposed to reading the play and then taking off when
the play dictates that, that to me is the key
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is you have to play the play. But the easy
thing to do is, oh, I need to make a
big play right here. So I'm gonna go back and
I'm gonna throw.
Speaker 12 (27:15):
This deep one.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
You know, if I get any scenario like you can't
talk yourself into doing things that the situation doesn't dictate
for you to do.
Speaker 12 (27:25):
And I'm sure, you know. You know me, I wasn't
a runner. I couldn't move.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Uh so my dictating was, you know, saying I'm gonna
kind of force a deeper throw or make a bigger
play than was out there. For these guys, it's taken
off and creating, you know, instead of you know, winning
with their arm.
Speaker 12 (27:41):
It's like, hey, I can go back.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
And you see these guys do this at times where
they hit their back foot and they're already taken off
to run because they felt something. And in those situations,
I almost feel like it's you're dictating that ahead of time.
I know this is a pass, but if I drop
back and I see something, I'm just gonna take off
and run instead of allowing the situation to play out
for you. And I think that's what you have to fight.
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The more talented you are, the more things you can do,
the more you have to fight that and say, play
within myself, play within what the play dictates, and don't
try to do too much. Not always an easy thing
to do, but that to me is the key is play.
Play to play and don't allow those thoughts to get
in your head, you know, ahead of time to dictate
how you're going to play.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
How desirable is the Cowboys, John.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
I mean, I think it's always desirable from the standpoint
that you know, if you win as a Dallas Cowboy,
if you have success as the Dallas Cowboy, you're going
to get notoriety and you're going to have you know,
that platform that I think you know, every player and
every coach covets. Right when you get to this level.
You want to know that when you play, you're going
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to be on TV and what you do is going
to be going to be focused on around the league.
But you know, I think everybody's talked about it. There's
the negative side to that as well, because we have
this that the Cowboys are supposed to win championships, even
though it hasn't been. It's been thirty years since they've
won championships. So, like Mike McCarthy, you win a lot
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in the regular season, not good enough, not good enough,
not good enough, And then we always talk about the
second factor is you've got an owner that wants to
be out in the forefront and the owner saying things
that you know, as a coach, you're like, I don't
want anybody saying that, you know, I want to keep
this stuff in the house.
Speaker 12 (29:25):
I want to be able to lead here.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
And you've got to fight your ownership a little bit
in what they're saying and deal with that. So you know,
those two factors I think can can make it a
tough job. But I don't think anybody you know that
wants to be a head coach is going to turn
down the opportunity to be a head coach of the
Dallas Cowboys because you know what that means. If you
believe in yourself and you have success, what that can
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mean for your career.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Good to talk to you is always thank you.
Speaker 12 (29:52):
I'm going to talk to you too.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Thank you, buddy, Thank you buddy. That's Kurt Warner, Hall
of Famer. You can see him on NFL Game Day
mornings and on the call last night. Uh Noah in
North Carolina? Good morning, Noah. What's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (30:06):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (30:07):
Good morning, Dan, Patrick, Dan, and uh more? I think
specifically sprintsy.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Are you at work?
Speaker 9 (30:16):
Noah? Yeah, yeah, I'm going somewhere quiet?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (30:22):
Is it any better?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Do you guys want to guess what Noah does for
a living? Todd, what do you think work on some.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Kind of print shop or carpentry work.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Okay, Seaton, got a guess where Noah, just judging from
the background noise.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
I'm gonna guess that they're loading loading doctor loading stuff there.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Okay, what about you, Mark, he.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Works in Amazon warehouse.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Oh okay, Okay, well that's specific.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
Okay, Pauline Outdoors Construction. They're doing a little demo work today.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
In the little demo work there, I'm gonna say auto repair.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
I am actually building an Amazon.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
WHOA, So you're you're building an Amazon warehouse?
Speaker 15 (31:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (31:17):
Yeah, one of their distribution centers.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Marvin, I'm gonna give that to you. Congratulations, Blue all right.
Speaker 9 (31:26):
Uh no, you're so big.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Uh, Noah, you have to pay off a bet.
Speaker 9 (31:32):
Yeah, so, uh, I got it. I'm really glad the
stress is over.
Speaker 16 (31:37):
And I betrayed my team and I took the pitiful
Steelers to go to the super Bowl, and uh it's
a deserved hide.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
To the face.
Speaker 16 (31:46):
And I'm looking forward to taking this one and I
will never do this again because I believe now, and
I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I need you to Noah, we need somebody you work
with to videotape that and then send it in so
we can play it on the show. But good to
hear from you and thanks thanks for joining us. So
that's Noah building an Amazon distribution center. I believe so, Marvin,
I'm going to give you credit for that. Well done.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Hey, Amazon's everywhere?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Why not? Yeah? Dylan in Nashville, Hi, Dylan, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 10 (32:18):
Dan six foot wanted to see what you thought about
the possibility.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
That Dallas hires Dion and then trades up with the Titan,
sends Dax to Nashville and draft your dirt.
Speaker 12 (32:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
But if I'm Nashville, why do I want Dak Prescott?
I like how we always look at trades as one sided,
like how does my team benefit here? You never think
about the other side. I remember listening to Mike and
the Mad Dog on WFA and New York and people
would always call in with these trade proposals. I'm thinking
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that maybe we send Luis Soho to the Red Sox
for uh David Ortiz. I'll hang up and listen, and
you go, what.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Do we send the benniag Bayani and two picks for
Roger Clemons?
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Like the Titans are sitting around going how can we
get older and more injured?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
A quarterback?
Speaker 7 (33:19):
And spend more in the position. Let's go, Hey, what
about Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah, let's spend a whole lot of money on a
guy that's injury prone and he's thirty two. I like
that philosophy. We'll take a break when we come back.
We played this Sam Darnold game and a very special
NFL quiz after.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
This, be sure to catch the live edition of The
Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Mike Vrabel he's already stepped into the job, and he's
already trying to change the culture in New England. Here's
the Patriots new head coach.
Speaker 15 (34:00):
To galvanize our football team. I want to galvanize this building.
I want to galvanize our fans, and the most important
thing are the players.
Speaker 10 (34:08):
There's some of them right here.
Speaker 15 (34:09):
I want to provide a program that provides their ownership
but also their accountability of each other, and one that
they'll be proud to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Okay, Satan or you fired up with Mike Brabel as
the Patriots new head coach. Uh yeah, yeah, I think
it's awesome. I think it's a great hire.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I think it's terrible for what we do in this business, though,
if he's going to have that pleasant demeanor. Hey, thanks
a lot, Jim for asking the question. You know, I'm
really glad that you asked that. Let me answer you.
And here's my thoughts on that. What the hell are
we supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Now?
Speaker 7 (34:42):
I see what Seatan's saying. He and I were sitting
here watching it yesterday, and every time Mike brabel was
asked a question, the reporters like, Mike, ready to have
you back. Hey, good to see it, Timmy. Yeah, Charles,
it was the opposite of Belichick.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah. He didn't call anybody stupid.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
He didn't like roll his eyes once, no real audible
size enunciated.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, he didn't belittle or demean anyone. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
I miss the old days.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
What's happening in New England? Yeah, although I loved Belichick
last night, the irascable Bill Belichick when when they they
didn't call a fumble or intentional grounding on Matthew Stafford
and Belichick had this to say on the manning.
Speaker 10 (35:24):
Cast across he ran into the left tackle.
Speaker 11 (35:28):
In fact, throw the pass forward number seven.
Speaker 13 (35:32):
It was in the area, therefore it is an incomplete pass?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Second an offensive league, what are you guys doing. There's
no rules to help the defense. In the NFL, you
can get away with that. They call it an incomplete pass. Okay,
I think it was the right call, but it felt
like it was the wrong call. It was like, oh,
come on, you're gonna punish the Vikings for that moment
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that would have tied the game ten ten. But here
is Belichick. Oh, come on, it's an offensive He's right
as a defensive minded guy, the defense doesn't get any
breaks ever. Never.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
Yes, the pass went less than four feet into the ground,
generally near an offensive player. It just didn't feel like
a pass in the definition of the word pass. And
also it was clearly grounding and that couldn't be reviewed
and called. But it didn't feel like a pass. It
felt like a defensive caused turnover.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
But if Maholmes makes that same kind of move, we
say the following, Wow, that's Adam. Who else could do
that in this league?
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Patrick Maholmes, I mean, I mean this this guy unbelievable
or was so smart?
Speaker 12 (36:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Is that your Tony Romo? Let's go to Tony. Tony,
what did you think of that play.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
Let's a.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I fee look at this guy. Oh how great is he?
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Yes, Marvin, but Mahomes, he's completed in a pass like that.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You're right, Matthew.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Stafford's never even attempted to pass the ball like that.
It looks like he was throwing trash away, Mahomes, that's
in his arsenal. That's the difference.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, yeah, of course nobody else could do it, only Patton.
You've got quarterback. Nobody even things are doing that. Yes, Todd,
I need.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
To know more about this in the area receiver thing.
Speaker 10 (37:31):
I think that requires more explanation.
Speaker 12 (37:33):
Is it totally subjective? Or he's two yards away, he's
four yards away.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
He's half facing the quarterback.
Speaker 9 (37:38):
What's in the area.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
It Once again, it felt like it was an incorrect call,
but I guess by the book it was the correct call.
And even Stafford as he's on the ground, he's like
pointing towards Nope, it's our it's our ball, our ball.
And that was a big play. I don't know if
it changes the game, but at least it would have
tied the game.
Speaker 12 (38:00):
All right.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Time to play a quick NFL quiz and then we'll
play the Sam Darnold game if we have time this hour.
All right, PAULI the quick NFL quiz you mentioned Matthew Stafford.
Matthew Stafford's having a great career, won a Super Bowl.
He's only been nominated to two Pro Bowls, two Pro
Bowl nominations.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
Right, it's fair to say he may not get another
two Pro Bowls from Matt Stafford. Is it also fair
to say he's going to the Hall of Fame someday?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (38:29):
I think most people lean that way.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Okay, the fewest Pro Bowl appearances for a Hall of
Fame quarterback.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
That's no for a Hall of Famer, the person in
the Hall of Fame currently in the NFL Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
Yeah, but you should do Hall of Fame quarterbacks. I
have that as well.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
We can go quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Judge them, Yeah, we judge them differently.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
Okay, let's do quarterbacks first.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Okay, this is the fewest number of Pro Bowl nominations
for a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 7 (38:56):
The number is three Pro Bowls, which will be Matt Stafford.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Take that record, Okay, Okay, you got to give us
new school old school old school and say nineteen prior
to nineteen eighty or after nineteen eighty.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
A little of both. That's a big hands.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, hold on, Marvin whoa Marvin's got his hand up? Yes,
Dan Fouts, No.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
But you're close.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
He's in the wheelhouse.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
Here's the hint. All the players on this list are
boosted by their postseasons and Super Bowl performances.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Okay, boosted.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Troy Aikman now three Pro Bowls, this player, Todd, You
got a quarterback Eli Manning Elia, but he's not a
Hall of Famer yet, right seatan They have to be
a Hall of Famer already, Yes, I believe, Yes.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
That doesn't Aaron Rodgers doesn't.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
No, okay ready, h Warren Moon, No, more seventies than eighties,
but seventies and eighties guy.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
More seventies than eighties.
Speaker 7 (40:15):
Bob Greasy, Terry Bradshaw three Pro Bowls, four Super Bowls,
Hall of Famer bonus coverage.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
The fewest fewest.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
Pro Bowl appearances by a future Hall of Famer, it's one.
The hint is running back seventies, e seventies, more eighties
than seventies. One big super Bowl for this guy, John Regan.
John Reagan's is correct. One Pro Bowl? Yeah, who else
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is on that list? These are all guys who benefited
from a Super Bowl, two Pro Bowls. Jimbo Kover, Steve
McMichael eighty five bears a lot of fall out there,
Art Monk, Drew Pearson, John Stalworth, Lynn Swann, Terrell Davis
all three Pro Bowls.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Mark Sanchez a Pro Bowl player, checking Hill join us
coming up next hour, Final hour in this Tuesday, right
after this
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Hour two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Ns Dan Patrick Show,
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Operator Tyler sitting by people fired up about the Vikings
moving forward? Are they moving forward with Sam Darnold or
(00:27):
are they going to let him go free agency market?
The Cowboys situation, they need a new head coach. Tim
Callashaw Dallas Morning News columnists will join us here. Momentarily,
Tim rode a column and he starts the column out
by saying, Dak Prescott's season one, that began with an
agreement that glorious morning in Cleveland that made him the
highest paid player in NFL history, was his worst in
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nine years with the Cowboys. It lasted eight games, His
statistics were poor, The team's record three and five was worse. That,
above all else, is the reason Mike McCarthy is looking
for a job today. The headline is, if Jerry Jones
doesn't get a coach to fix Dak Prescott, Cowboys will
remain a laughing stock. I don't know if you get
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somebody to fix a guy who's injury prone and thirty
two years of age coming off hamstring surgery, this is
who he is. He can't run anymore, so he's got
to be a great pocket passer. Who are you bringing
in that's gonna say, let me make him a great
pocket passer?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yes, he and by not I'm not gonna say getting
You didn't get rid of Mike McCarthy, but you didn't
bring him back. Maybe it's the right way to say that, right,
It does kind of appear from the outside that the
Cowboys don't really have a plan.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Unless they do, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Maybe they already had a plan b a coach in waiting, like, ah,
if Mike doesn't resign, we're gonna go with this guy.
But it does appear that they don't really have a plan,
especially with everything that you just mentioned about the quarterback situation.
You got a bunch of other high price players. What's
the direction that they're going in as a franchise.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well, I think we've been able to say that the
last thirty years. What direction are they going in now?
Have they had success? Yes? But if you're a Cowboy fan.
Success is winning championships, not getting to the postseason, not
ending up with thirteen wins, bowing out to the Green
Bay Packers in an embarrassing fashion last year, and also
with Mike McCarthy. He deserved better. I was curious how
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many coaches in NFL history have had at least eleven
seasons with ten wins or more. Don Shula had twenty
seasons with at least ten wins, Belichick had twenty, Andy
Reid nineteen, Tom Landry sixteen. And then it's Mike Tomlin,
Marty Schottenheimer, John Harbaugh, and Mike McCarthy. Whoa stand Stalla
(03:01):
day Stantata day.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
This is the stule of the day.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So Mike has carved out a borderline hall of fame resume.
Feels like, you know, Sean Payton has had ten of
these seasons, Tony Dungee had ten. You know, going down
this list, shoule a Hall of famer. Belichick is reed, Landry, Tomlin,
John Harball is probably going to be a Hall of Famer.
Sean Payton probably a Hall of Famer, Tony Dungee is
a Hall of famer. Mike McCarthy's in this group. He's
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in the neighborhood here. I just don't know if we
look at out of all of those coaches, do you
look at him with the same reverence that you do
the others. And I would have thought, hey, Mike McCarthy
coming in there, will he stand up to Jerry Jones?
And he didn't. I mean he did succeed until he
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loses his quarterback and then it went south after that.
But if you're going to offer him a one year
deal that's what was reported, Well, your professional pride is
I don't want to be hanging, you know, I don't
want to be just in limbo. And that's not fair
to Mike McCarthy. You either want him or you don't. Yes, Marvin, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
For the Cowboys, don't you think they need somebody who's
a culture changer, because right now the Cowboys are just
the Kardashians. They're just famous for being famous. Whoa like,
what's their culture? It's uncertainty and being famous.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So is Jerry Kim thinks he's Chris Jenner, like the
ringleader jen Oh, the mominger. Correct, yes see.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Right, but the culture is the owner who's gonna come
in and change him?
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Nobody yeah, you're right, Yes, Marvin Well, I was gonna say,
d I might have enough cachet ay if you want me,
this is how I need to run things. But do
you think do you think Jerry Jones is gonna stop
being Jerry Jones holding press conferences after games, doing his
radio show, two radio shows, like.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
He loves this stuff. He can't get enough of this stuff.
And then Dion's gonna come in and look, Dion loves
to self promote, but he's gonna be working for the
ultimate self promoter in the NFL. But we'll talk to
Tim Callishaw coming up. Kurt Warner was on the call
last night. He will join us coming up as well.
Mark Sanchez from Fox Sports will stop by. So Bears, Cowboys, Jags, Jets, Raiders, Saints.
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Does Mike McCarthy get another head coaching opportunity? And I
don't know if this is true or not. I'm trying
to verify this. Are the Bears zeroing in on Pete Carroll?
That's interesting? Interesting? What does he You can't mention his
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name without his age? Is he seventy three? Like you
get to a certain point in your life and you're
that's part of your name. It's like seventy three year
old Pete Carroll, Like, at what point did it become
your age and then your name Pete's the middle name.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
It does feel though anything the Bears do is poked
apart by their fans in the media. You interview Pete Carroll,
but you don't interview Bill Belichick. Last year, you know
you everything they do seems backwards. Last year, you interview nobody.
This year you're adding people every day. They're up to
thirteen head coaching interviews. You didn't get the called in,
(06:31):
did you? If you did you love? I did not.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
No. I turned it down. I said, I'm sorry, I
took your name out of consideration. I can't. I can't
change the culture here. All right. Let's see Tom in
North Carolina. Hi, Tom, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (06:48):
Hey, DP, I got a hot take on the Vikings.
Speaker 9 (06:51):
It's not really a real hot.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
Take, but I think that what Kevin O'Connell did with
Sam Donald this year. I think Daniel Jones will be
the starter next year and in the new Darland.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Well, I don't think he's going to be the Darling,
but he might be a bridge quarterback there. Tom, thank you.
He's getting loose. He had a statement it was you know,
he waited until he got on the air before he
cleared his croke. Jim Callashaw, Dallas Morning News sports columnist,
He's got it easy. He's always got something to write about,
(07:29):
and here you go, right on a platter.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
All.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I think he wrote two columns like you're on fire
with what's going on here. So let me start with
is the Dion possibility a true possibility in your opinion?
Speaker 10 (07:45):
In my opinion, Dad, thanks for having me, I think no.
Speaker 11 (07:51):
But given it it's Jerry Jones, I'm certainly not going
to rule it out there. There's something about the allure
of doing something like that that would appeal to him. However,
I just think he's going to try to find somebody,
somebody else.
Speaker 10 (08:09):
You know, when you look at Dion after two years,
what is his record of Colorado About five hundred, barely
over it, And I just I don't think that's going
to be I don't.
Speaker 11 (08:21):
Think this team is needs a motivator, and I think
Dion's stuff works better in college than it will in
the NFL.
Speaker 10 (08:28):
I think this team needs a coach, and it needs
different schemes, and it needs new ideas.
Speaker 11 (08:34):
And I'm not saying Dion couldn't bring that, but I
think Dion's greatest strength works better at college players.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And you bring this up in your column. You're saying
you got to fix Dak Prescott. Tim that's going to
be difficult for a guy who's injury prone, making that
kind of money and is a pocket quarterback and is
thirty two years of age. I don't know who can
fix that.
Speaker 10 (08:55):
You find those aspects troubling the fact that he's two
thirds of the games.
Speaker 11 (09:05):
Yeah, and that's why you know I've thrown out Cliff kingsbred.
Ben Johnson is everybody's first choice, and nobody has any
idea what he would be like.
Speaker 10 (09:14):
As a head coach. But everybody loves Detroit's offense. But
you go through Detroit's offense.
Speaker 11 (09:19):
Player by player, and you know Dallas doesn't win anywhere
except maybe maybe Ceedee Lamb is a notch higher than
a Mode raw, but it's not much if it is
at all. And yeah, but if you're the Cowboys, if
you're Jerry Jones, you have to hope.
Speaker 10 (09:37):
All you can do after signing back to that contract is.
Speaker 11 (09:40):
Hope you get three or four mostly healthy years out
of him and who can put together the best offense
that he can thrive in. I think that has to
be the target here.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
What happened here in the last two weeks with Mike McCarthy,
I don't.
Speaker 11 (09:58):
Know that anything did. I mean the fact that they
met every day last week. You know, I do feel
for Mike McCarthy sitting through those meetings. The sun never
sets on a Jerry Jones conversation. They just go on
and on and and you know, in Jerry's world, they
didn't even get to contracts till the last day, So
I don't know what in the world they they talked about.
(10:22):
I think Jerry's mind was probably made up. If they
didn't do better in the playoffs this year, no matter,
no matter how that happened, he needed to go in another direction.
It's five years, it's one playoff win, one playoff win
over an eight and nineteen.
Speaker 10 (10:37):
So you know, I don't think anything went wrong McCarthy.
Speaker 11 (10:42):
Actually, I've got coached the hell out of him after
Dak left and the way they played down the stretch,
and they could have won the Cincinnati game, and they
could have won obviously.
Speaker 10 (10:52):
Could have won the Washington game. But while Dak was here.
There were three and five and they were a mess.
And you know.
Speaker 11 (11:00):
I just think after five years he had to go
look for another another voice, try something else.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Okay, but why didn't Jerry make the decision when you
had the window of opportunities to Ben Johnson?
Speaker 11 (11:12):
Because he doesn't operate though way. He likes to drag
his speed and take a week give us headlines for
talk shows and things like that. I don't really think
I just mentioned Ben Johnson. I don't think he will
hire Ben Johnson. I don't think the quiet, soft spoken,
brainy offensive coordinator. They had one of those of Keli
(11:34):
Borr and I don't think that's Jerry's idea of the
head coach. So I'll be if Ben Johnson becomes a
serious candidate. I would be very surprised.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Any chance that Mike McCarthy had a good day yesterday, yeah, I.
Speaker 10 (11:53):
Would think so.
Speaker 11 (11:54):
I mean, look, he's been here five years, so he's
made thirty five or forty millions, not badly here, it.
Speaker 10 (12:01):
Might be, and he turned it down whatever it was.
Speaker 12 (12:04):
A one year offer supposedly.
Speaker 10 (12:06):
For about the same money.
Speaker 11 (12:08):
He's confident he'll get the Bear's job or another job
or sit out a year and try again.
Speaker 10 (12:14):
And he's not a bad coach.
Speaker 11 (12:16):
I just don't think I don't think he enhanced whatever
his reputation was before coming here.
Speaker 10 (12:23):
I don't think he enhanced it in these five years.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Well, he kind of got neutered there, and I don't
know if he was ever viewed as a coach that
was submissive.
Speaker 10 (12:32):
It's always difficult here.
Speaker 11 (12:36):
Parcels is the only hire since Jimmy that Jerry has
sort of taken a couple of steps back and let
him be the head coach. You know, it's appalling to
me that, you know, Jerry Jones does Jerry Jones does
his postgame press conference at home games at the same
time Mike McCarthy's talking, and there's like me and four
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other people and Mike mc arthy's roof and everybody else
is down around there. Just think of what that does,
not just to the head coach, but to the signal.
It sends to all the players walking out. They know
who the authority figure here is.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Okay, Tim, If I said to Jerry Jones, you can't
talk to the media, you don't do any more interviews
for the next five years, but I'll guarantee you you
win one more super Bowl?
Speaker 11 (13:26):
Oh oh, he's talked about how much money he says
he would spend, although he doesn't really spend it.
Speaker 10 (13:32):
That would be a difficult one.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
No radio shows, nothing.
Speaker 10 (13:36):
This man does two radio shows a week.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Then, Oh, I know, and he'd do more probably if
he could.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
I mean, he'd like to do drive time.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
He would like to host three to six.
Speaker 10 (13:50):
Going Home with Jerry, but that would be a yeah
at this point. At this point, it is ten year
here on this planet. I don't think he's I don't
think he's going that maybe here.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Oh, he couldn't do it. He could not do it.
He loves it, he's addicted to it, and he wants
everybody to know that he knows what he's doing. Just
trust me. I got a plan. It's been good hands,
great to talk to you as always, and probably check
in with you again soon because you're going to eventually
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get a head coach here.
Speaker 10 (14:27):
May we'll have a head coach. We'll see who that is.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Thank you to all right. That's Tim Callishaw, star of
Around the Horn. He also gets around to doing uh,
Dallas morning news columnist work. There you imagine you say
to Jerry Jerry can't say work, no interviews, you know,
no features here, no documentaries, no nothing, and you're going
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to win another Super Bowl? Well, how long do I
have to not talk?
Speaker 10 (14:56):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, it's interesting what Tim said there because he said
that he doesn't think that a guy like Ben Johnson
sort of like a quiet, brainy type guy, is Jerry Jones'
style of coach. Maybe that's exactly what they need. Jerry
is the star, He's the guy up front. You don't
need a larger than life personality to also combat that,
(15:22):
you know what I mean, or to go alongside of that.
There's really only room for one guy in the camera there.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
But here's the problem I have with it that, yes,
that is the reality of this, but I got to
bring in somebody who will stand up to Jerry because
Jerry has made some decisions that aren't the right decisions
or at the right time, but nobody stands up to him.
They're like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
It kind of feels like they just had that guy
who came in with a certain amount of like I
don't know if it's cachet or certainly coaching history, where
you're not really going to tell me how to do this.
Because I'm the guy who knows how to do that.
I don't know that standing up to Jerry and pushing
back works there either, does it.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I don't think that Mike McCarthy stood up to him.
I don't think so. Now he might say no, I did.
I picked my spots. Maybe, but I can't imagine. You know,
Jerry has a type. You know, it's like when guy goes, oh,
I got a type of woman that I Jerry has
a type of coach, and that's what he wants. He
(16:26):
is if he could play quarterback, he'd play quarterback. Your owner,
your GM, you're the mouthpiece for the friend. It's it's
not changing anytime soon. And we said, do you sign
Dak Prescott to that contract? I wouldn't have he did.
He waited a long time. Ceedee Lamb is a star.
(16:46):
Can you feature him enough? I wouldn't have brought back
Zeke Elliott. Now have they had some good drafts? They have?
Now you got to pay Michael Parsons. He's gonna want
forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Yeah, Pauline, remember a couple of years ago, maybe two
three years ago, when they had the assistant coaches Dan
Quinn and Kellen Moore, and they're like, don't let either
of those guys out of the building. Don't let them go.
You'd rather hire one of them and bounce Mike McCarthy.
Then you can't bring back Dan Quinn. He's all set
in Washington, he's going nowhere. He's set. But Kellen Moore
(17:17):
is the offensive coordinator of the Eagles. He's very young still.
He looks like he's twelve. I think he's like under forty.
That seems like a guy that.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
But if okay, But Kyle O. Shawn says, you got
to fix Dak Prescott. You can't fix somebody who's thirty
two in an injury prone. You just can't. And the
offensive line is not like the Lions or the Eagles.
The offensive line used to be great. It's not. You
don't have a dangerous running back. You got Cede Lamb,
(17:48):
You've got a couple of impact players on defense. I
don't I don't know if you can bring in And
is it a culture changer or is it somebody who's
going to come in and be able to fix Dak Prescott?
Can you get both? All right, We'll take a break.
We'll talk to Kurt Oorner. He was on the call
last night, and we'll talk to him about just how
(18:11):
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happen in Dallas back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2 (19:26):
Kurt Warner Hall of Famer. You can catch him on
NFL Networks Game Day Morning. He was on the call
for Westwood one Radio last night with the wild Card
game between the vikings of the Rams. Kurt, good to
see you again. What did you expect pregame was going
to happen last night?
Speaker 12 (19:42):
Yeah? There, I wish I knew. I didn't really know
what to expect.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
You know, anytime you throw you know, everything that was
thrown at the Rams into this week, including you know,
issues with your family and maybe friends of yours. I
don't think you ever really know how team is going
to respond. They are going to grow together. But I
think Sean McVay did an unbelievable job. Give some credit
to the Cardinals. I thought they did an unbelievable job
(20:06):
of welcoming the Rams. And making them feel at home.
But what a performance. I mean, they came out from
the get go and they dominated that game. And I
think oftentimes when you have situations like this, Dan, it
goes one of two ways, right, and you find out
pretty early whether a team is ready to play or
whether their mind is on something else. And we saw
very early that the Rams were ready to play.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Okay, let's look at Sam Darnald because we know his
future could be at stake in Minnesota these last two games.
What did you see from Sam Donald that you didn't
see in the other games this season.
Speaker 12 (20:38):
Well, first of all, we'll put it on the team
as a whole.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I thought Minnesota got physically dominated in both games. So
that's the first issue is And it wasn't just upfront.
Sometimes it was on the back end with the receivers
as well. But maybe the biggest thing for me was
Sam and I kind of saw it all year long,
was his struggles with pressure, you know, understanding when pressure
is coming and having answers for that pressure. Sometimes that
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answer isn't even just a completion, but it's just saving
some yards. You know. There was that situation in the
fourth quarter last night where theyre what third and eight
or something like that, and he takes the huge sack.
I mean, in that situation you got to at least
set up for a field goal. So if nothing else,
throw the football away, maybe you go forward on fourth
down because you're in that situation. But there's too many
times this year of him just holding and taking negative plays,
(21:22):
and those negative plays are just hard to overcome. So that,
to me was probably the biggest issue that I saw.
And then you have to ask yourself the question, as
I know everybody is, is okay, if you want to
keep him around, what does.
Speaker 12 (21:34):
That look like? What kind of commitment do you have
to make to him?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
And you know, in those big games, the two biggest
games of the year, he didn't play very well. Are
you willing to, you know, commit to him long term?
Speaker 12 (21:46):
You know? After seeing that?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
All right, I'll ask you play GM, would you keep
Sam Darnold if the price is right?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I would say yes, I would keep them with the
prices right, I think the question would be how long
do I have to keep him? And then the other factor,
dan is I don't really know what we have in
JJ McCarthy, Like I didn't see him in preseason. I
didn't know where he was. I don't know if you
know the Vikings were ready to start him after that
one preseason game, or if you know they hadn't seen
enough and Sam was the guy. So I feel like
(22:16):
after watching them this year, they've got a good enough
team that they need.
Speaker 12 (22:20):
A guy at that position to make them competitive. Sam
made them.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
More than competitive all year long. But that, to me
is the question. I don't really know what you have
in JJ McCarthy. I didn't see enough in college. I
didn't see enough with the Vikings to know for sure.
If you feel like you have enough, then absolutely not,
you go with JJ and you move forward. But if
you're not sure, I think it's hard to let a
guy that did that well out of the building and
(22:46):
you say, Okay, so we saw one flaw or we
saw a flaw with our team.
Speaker 12 (22:49):
We need to fix that flaw.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
But if we do, we've got this quarterback that played
at a really, really high level.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Okay, but is this fixable. You're talking about pressure, Well,
every quarterback faces pressure. The difference is you welcomed pressure.
He seemed to be unnerved or very nerved by it,
like oh my god. And then you start to kind
of get out of your comfort zone. So can you
fix what you saw the last two games?
Speaker 11 (23:17):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I wish I knew the answer to that, but I'm
with you. I think there are some people that in
that moment, when pressure's on them, high stakes, they can
just slow the game down and make the right decision.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
I made a comment about Jayden Daniels from the night before,
and what I love.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
About Jaden Daniels is he makes the right decision in
the moment, even if he doesn't see it, even if
something's not open, He'll throw the football away, you know,
he'll take off and make a two or three yard
gain instead of taking these sacks.
Speaker 12 (23:44):
And here's a rookie that we're seeing do this.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
And so I've always wondered if that's something that truly
can be taught. You know, when you've got pressure around you,
or when the game speeds up, can you slow it
down and have that answer? I think, you know, I
think for the most part, if you're good at it,
you're good at it.
Speaker 12 (24:02):
Do you do?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I think you can help a quarterback, Sure, you can
help them by giving them some answers, But I don't
know if that's something that all of a sudden, we're
gonna see a quarterback that's not good against pressure become
great against pressure. I'm not sure that's something that's that
you can really learn.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
How threatening are the Rams.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I think they're they're scary, and I think they're scary
in a game where they can win the line of scrimmage,
and that to me.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Is but you're going against the Eagles now.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Exactly, and so that to me is where I feel
like the Rams could struggle a little bit as upfront.
Speaker 12 (24:37):
You know, if they can.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Handle it up front. They obviously have playmakers. They've got
a young front. I mean, nine sacks last night by
eight different guys. They've got lots of guys that can.
Speaker 12 (24:45):
Get after the quarterback. I just don't think Philly is
going to play that sort of game.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
So I think they are a dangerous team based on
what Matthew Staffer can do, the weapons that they have,
But it has to be more their their way of
playing football, and I'm not sure they're to be able
to dictate that against Billy.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
He's the Hall of Famer Kurt Warner. You can see
him on NFL Game Day Mornings with Rich Eisending Company.
He was on the call last night the Vikings and
the Rams. If I said, you can have Jayden Daniels
moving forward or justin Herbert.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Oh, I'm taking Jade Daniels. I mean, no, no doubt
about it. I mean, I just I've seen that young
man play.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
It's quarterback k.
Speaker 12 (25:29):
Maybe just outside of that.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
But I'm probably only saying that because because he's a rookie,
right and because you know, against one year and one
body of work. But if I stacked up all the
things that he does well and put him up against
the top five quarterbacks in the league, it would be
hard for me to find five guys that do all
the things as well as Jayden Daniels has done this year,
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the critical moments, handed on pressure, just the consistency of
his technique the red zone. You know, normally you have
struggles in the red zone because everything gets tighter. He
has been phenomenal in the red zone last two minutes
of games in critical moments like it would be hard
to probably find five guys that have played consistently better
than him all year long.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I think you were twenty eight when you were a rookie.
Weren't you my first year playing?
Speaker 10 (26:17):
Yes, I was twenty Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, twenty eight the Bills in the Ravens and both
of these quarterbacks trying not to do too much. Like
you almost have to say to yourself, Okay, I still
got to be that same person that I've been all
season long or my career. But sometimes you want to
play outside of yourself. And sometimes we've seen where you
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know you're your own worst enemy. So how do you
have that seat belt on that says just stay within
yourself here?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I think the biggest thing, Dan is you don't predetermine
that you're going to do something that maybe the situation
doesn't dictate. You know, like if you drop back and
you're telling yourself, hey, I'm going to take off here
if if I see any kind of a window as
opposed to reading the play and then taking off when
the play dictates that, that to me is the key
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is you have to play the play. But the easy
thing to do is, oh, I need to make a
big play right here. So I'm gonna go back and
I'm gonna throw.
Speaker 12 (27:15):
This deep one.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
You know, if I get any scenario like you can't
talk yourself into doing things that the situation doesn't dictate
for you to do.
Speaker 12 (27:25):
And I'm sure, you know. You know me, I wasn't
a runner. I couldn't move.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Uh so my dictating was, you know, saying I'm gonna
kind of force a deeper throw or make a bigger
play than was out there. For these guys, it's taken
off and creating, you know, instead of you know, winning
with their arm.
Speaker 12 (27:41):
It's like, hey, I can go back.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
And you see these guys do this at times where
they hit their back foot and they're already taken off
to run because they felt something. And in those situations,
I almost feel like it's you're dictating that ahead of time.
I know this is a pass, but if I drop
back and I see something, I'm just gonna take off
and run instead of allowing the situation to play out
for you. And I think that's what you have to fight.
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The more talented you are, the more things you can do,
the more you have to fight that and say, play
within myself, play within what the play dictates, and don't
try to do too much. Not always an easy thing
to do, but that to me is the key is play.
Play to play and don't allow those thoughts to get
in your head, you know, ahead of time to dictate
how you're going to play.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
How desirable is the Cowboys, John.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
I mean, I think it's always desirable from the standpoint
that you know, if you win as a Dallas Cowboy,
if you have success as the Dallas Cowboy, you're going
to get notoriety and you're going to have you know,
that platform that I think you know, every player and
every coach covets. Right when you get to this level.
You want to know that when you play, you're going
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to be on TV and what you do is going
to be going to be focused on around the league.
But you know, I think everybody's talked about it. There's
the negative side to that as well, because we have
this that the Cowboys are supposed to win championships, even
though it hasn't been. It's been thirty years since they've
won championships. So, like Mike McCarthy, you win a lot
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in the regular season, not good enough, not good enough,
not good enough, And then we always talk about the
second factor is you've got an owner that wants to
be out in the forefront and the owner saying things
that you know, as a coach, you're like, I don't
want anybody saying that, you know, I want to keep
this stuff in the house.
Speaker 12 (29:25):
I want to be able to lead here.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
And you've got to fight your ownership a little bit
in what they're saying and deal with that. So you know,
those two factors I think can can make it a
tough job. But I don't think anybody you know that
wants to be a head coach is going to turn
down the opportunity to be a head coach of the
Dallas Cowboys because you know what that means. If you
believe in yourself and you have success, what that can
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mean for your career.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Good to talk to you is always thank you.
Speaker 12 (29:52):
I'm going to talk to you too.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Thank you, buddy, Thank you buddy. That's Kurt Warner, Hall
of Famer. You can see him on NFL Game Day
mornings and on the call last night. Uh Noah in
North Carolina? Good morning, Noah. What's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (30:06):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (30:07):
Good morning, Dan, Patrick, Dan, and uh more? I think
specifically sprintsy.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Are you at work?
Speaker 9 (30:16):
Noah? Yeah, yeah, I'm going somewhere quiet?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (30:22):
Is it any better?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Do you guys want to guess what Noah does for
a living? Todd, what do you think work on some.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Kind of print shop or carpentry work.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Okay, Seaton, got a guess where Noah, just judging from
the background noise.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
I'm gonna guess that they're loading loading doctor loading stuff there.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Okay, what about you, Mark, he.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Works in Amazon warehouse.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Oh okay, Okay, well that's specific.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
Okay, Pauline Outdoors Construction. They're doing a little demo work today.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
In the little demo work there, I'm gonna say auto repair.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
I am actually building an Amazon.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
WHOA, So you're you're building an Amazon warehouse?
Speaker 15 (31:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (31:17):
Yeah, one of their distribution centers.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Marvin, I'm gonna give that to you. Congratulations, Blue all right.
Speaker 9 (31:26):
Uh no, you're so big.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Uh, Noah, you have to pay off a bet.
Speaker 9 (31:32):
Yeah, so, uh, I got it. I'm really glad the
stress is over.
Speaker 16 (31:37):
And I betrayed my team and I took the pitiful
Steelers to go to the super Bowl, and uh it's
a deserved hide.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
To the face.
Speaker 16 (31:46):
And I'm looking forward to taking this one and I
will never do this again because I believe now, and
I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I need you to Noah, we need somebody you work
with to videotape that and then send it in so
we can play it on the show. But good to
hear from you and thanks thanks for joining us. So
that's Noah building an Amazon distribution center. I believe so, Marvin,
I'm going to give you credit for that. Well done.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Hey, Amazon's everywhere?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Why not? Yeah? Dylan in Nashville, Hi, Dylan, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 10 (32:18):
Dan six foot wanted to see what you thought about
the possibility.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
That Dallas hires Dion and then trades up with the Titan,
sends Dax to Nashville and draft your dirt.
Speaker 12 (32:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
But if I'm Nashville, why do I want Dak Prescott?
I like how we always look at trades as one sided,
like how does my team benefit here? You never think
about the other side. I remember listening to Mike and
the Mad Dog on WFA and New York and people
would always call in with these trade proposals. I'm thinking
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that maybe we send Luis Soho to the Red Sox
for uh David Ortiz. I'll hang up and listen, and
you go, what.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Do we send the benniag Bayani and two picks for
Roger Clemons?
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Like the Titans are sitting around going how can we
get older and more injured?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
A quarterback?
Speaker 7 (33:19):
And spend more in the position. Let's go, Hey, what
about Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah, let's spend a whole lot of money on a
guy that's injury prone and he's thirty two. I like
that philosophy. We'll take a break when we come back.
We played this Sam Darnold game and a very special
NFL quiz after.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
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Speaker 2 (33:50):
Mike Vrabel he's already stepped into the job, and he's
already trying to change the culture in New England. Here's
the Patriots new head coach.
Speaker 15 (34:00):
To galvanize our football team. I want to galvanize this building.
I want to galvanize our fans, and the most important
thing are the players.
Speaker 10 (34:08):
There's some of them right here.
Speaker 15 (34:09):
I want to provide a program that provides their ownership
but also their accountability of each other, and one that
they'll be proud to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Okay, Satan or you fired up with Mike Brabel as
the Patriots new head coach. Uh yeah, yeah, I think
it's awesome. I think it's a great hire.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I think it's terrible for what we do in this business, though,
if he's going to have that pleasant demeanor. Hey, thanks
a lot, Jim for asking the question. You know, I'm
really glad that you asked that. Let me answer you.
And here's my thoughts on that. What the hell are
we supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Now?
Speaker 7 (34:42):
I see what Seatan's saying. He and I were sitting
here watching it yesterday, and every time Mike brabel was
asked a question, the reporters like, Mike, ready to have
you back. Hey, good to see it, Timmy. Yeah, Charles,
it was the opposite of Belichick.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah. He didn't call anybody stupid.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
He didn't like roll his eyes once, no real audible
size enunciated.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, he didn't belittle or demean anyone. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
I miss the old days.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
What's happening in New England? Yeah, although I loved Belichick
last night, the irascable Bill Belichick when when they they
didn't call a fumble or intentional grounding on Matthew Stafford
and Belichick had this to say on the manning.
Speaker 10 (35:24):
Cast across he ran into the left tackle.
Speaker 11 (35:28):
In fact, throw the pass forward number seven.
Speaker 13 (35:32):
It was in the area, therefore it is an incomplete pass?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Second an offensive league, what are you guys doing. There's
no rules to help the defense. In the NFL, you
can get away with that. They call it an incomplete pass. Okay,
I think it was the right call, but it felt
like it was the wrong call. It was like, oh,
come on, you're gonna punish the Vikings for that moment
(35:57):
that would have tied the game ten ten. But here
is Belichick. Oh, come on, it's an offensive He's right
as a defensive minded guy, the defense doesn't get any
breaks ever. Never.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
Yes, the pass went less than four feet into the ground,
generally near an offensive player. It just didn't feel like
a pass in the definition of the word pass. And
also it was clearly grounding and that couldn't be reviewed
and called. But it didn't feel like a pass. It
felt like a defensive caused turnover.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
But if Maholmes makes that same kind of move, we
say the following, Wow, that's Adam. Who else could do
that in this league?
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Patrick Maholmes, I mean, I mean this this guy unbelievable
or was so smart?
Speaker 12 (36:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Is that your Tony Romo? Let's go to Tony. Tony,
what did you think of that play.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
Let's a.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I fee look at this guy. Oh how great is he?
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Yes, Marvin, but Mahomes, he's completed in a pass like that.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You're right, Matthew.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Stafford's never even attempted to pass the ball like that.
It looks like he was throwing trash away, Mahomes, that's
in his arsenal. That's the difference.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, yeah, of course nobody else could do it, only Patton.
You've got quarterback. Nobody even things are doing that. Yes, Todd,
I need.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
To know more about this in the area receiver thing.
Speaker 10 (37:31):
I think that requires more explanation.
Speaker 12 (37:33):
Is it totally subjective? Or he's two yards away, he's
four yards away.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
He's half facing the quarterback.
Speaker 9 (37:38):
What's in the area.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
It Once again, it felt like it was an incorrect call,
but I guess by the book it was the correct call.
And even Stafford as he's on the ground, he's like
pointing towards Nope, it's our it's our ball, our ball.
And that was a big play. I don't know if
it changes the game, but at least it would have
tied the game.
Speaker 12 (38:00):
All right.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Time to play a quick NFL quiz and then we'll
play the Sam Darnold game if we have time this hour.
All right, PAULI the quick NFL quiz you mentioned Matthew Stafford.
Matthew Stafford's having a great career, won a Super Bowl.
He's only been nominated to two Pro Bowls, two Pro
Bowl nominations.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
Right, it's fair to say he may not get another
two Pro Bowls from Matt Stafford. Is it also fair
to say he's going to the Hall of Fame someday?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (38:29):
I think most people lean that way.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Okay, the fewest Pro Bowl appearances for a Hall of
Fame quarterback.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
That's no for a Hall of Famer, the person in
the Hall of Fame currently in the NFL Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
Yeah, but you should do Hall of Fame quarterbacks. I
have that as well.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
We can go quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Judge them, Yeah, we judge them differently.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
Okay, let's do quarterbacks first.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Okay, this is the fewest number of Pro Bowl nominations
for a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 7 (38:56):
The number is three Pro Bowls, which will be Matt Stafford.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Take that record, Okay, Okay, you got to give us
new school old school old school and say nineteen prior
to nineteen eighty or after nineteen eighty.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
A little of both. That's a big hands.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, hold on, Marvin whoa Marvin's got his hand up? Yes,
Dan Fouts, No.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
But you're close.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
He's in the wheelhouse.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
Here's the hint. All the players on this list are
boosted by their postseasons and Super Bowl performances.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Okay, boosted.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Troy Aikman now three Pro Bowls, this player, Todd, You
got a quarterback Eli Manning Elia, but he's not a
Hall of Famer yet, right seatan They have to be
a Hall of Famer already, Yes, I believe, Yes.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
That doesn't Aaron Rodgers doesn't.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
No, okay ready, h Warren Moon, No, more seventies than eighties,
but seventies and eighties guy.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
More seventies than eighties.
Speaker 7 (40:15):
Bob Greasy, Terry Bradshaw three Pro Bowls, four Super Bowls,
Hall of Famer bonus coverage.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
The fewest fewest.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
Pro Bowl appearances by a future Hall of Famer, it's one.
The hint is running back seventies, e seventies, more eighties
than seventies. One big super Bowl for this guy, John Regan.
John Reagan's is correct. One Pro Bowl? Yeah, who else
(40:54):
is on that list? These are all guys who benefited
from a Super Bowl, two Pro Bowls. Jimbo Kover, Steve
McMichael eighty five bears a lot of fall out there,
Art Monk, Drew Pearson, John Stalworth, Lynn Swann, Terrell Davis
all three Pro Bowls.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Mark Sanchez a Pro Bowl player, checking Hill join us
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