January 15, 2025 • 54 mins
Dan discusses the conflict of interest surrounding Tom Brady as minority owner of the Raiders while also being a broadcaster. Is he allowed to talk about Ben Johnson as a potential Raiders head coach? Jim Nantz celebrates surpassing 500 NFL broadcasts and recounts the time when the power went out during Super Bowl 47 in New Orleans. Plus, Robert Griffin III explains the keys to the Ravens matchup with the Bills and breaks down some of the biggest story lines surrounding NFL quarterbacks today.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We made it. We did it. We made it to
a Wednesday. It's our one. It's already been a great day,
unbelievable day. Yesterday went to the supermarket and I'm walking
down an aisle and I see the strawberry Nesley's Quick.
Is that what it's called? Yeah? I haven't had it
in forty years? And I said, you know what, I'm
(00:25):
going to have some strawberry Quick. So I started my
day with strawberry Quick. I think that's what it's called. Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Why do you think that is? Because I think we
all have that stuff we loved as a kid. We
can now afford it and buy it anytime we want. Well,
we don't eat it or drink it.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Why is this?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I have no idea, no idea, but it just jumped
out at me. Haven't had it in forty years? Had
it this morning? And I said, you know what, I'm
going to have a second glass. That's how good I
feel today. Marvin, you're a big strawberry Quick guy, aren't you.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Absolutely, And now that I can afford it, I never
have it.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Hit it on the head. Why I don't know. I
don't know what that is like ovaltine. There's certain things.
I just walked by the aisle and I was going, God,
there's a cornicopia of things that I might want to
have for breakfast, and I decided on strawbery quick. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
When I was in high school, grade school, I used
to go through a sleeve of ruffles, Remember the what
was the one pringles in the can where you get
your ham stuck. I walked by them all the time.
I never get them.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Why is it?
Speaker 5 (01:29):
I wish I had that kind of willpower.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
I'll get the regular and the pizza flavor and the
surkey red onion.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I can't make up my mind.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You're coming out with cannisters there under your arm or
for nine bucks? Yeah? Who could pass that up and
not pass it? Alrighty, all's quiet, or all is quiet
on the coaching front, at least so far. And you
have the possibility of Mike McCarthy interviewing with the Bears today,
and then you have some of these other coaches who
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were still in the postseason who aren't afforded that luxury. Now,
the Dallas Cowboys with Deon Sanders, that's going to get
a lot of run that's going to play out until
Dallas hires a coach. I don't think it's going to
be Dion. I think Jerry Jones did Diona solid Dion
is in negotiations for a contract extension at Colorado. He
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would normally be getting that, but if there's the possibility
of the Raiders or the Cowboys, maybe he's able to
make some more money there. Because if you listen or
read what Dion had to say about his conversation with
Jerry Jones, he sort of implied inferred that he was
offered the job. Hey, you know, humbled by this, but
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I got unfinished business at Colorado. I don't think there
was an offer here. It wasn't reported as an offer.
Dion kind of took it and said, basically, yeah, I'm
not going to take this job right now. I got
unfinished business. Wait a minute, I didn't offer the job
to you. Maybe gets around to doing that. Because normally
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when you fire somebody, we always at least think the
owner has an idea who he's going to bring in.
I truly believe that the Craft family with the Patriots
knew they were bringing in Mike Brabel and probably knew
that in December. They probably knew that a month ago,
where it's like this is not working out, they would
have brought in Mike Brabel if they weren't already contractually
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binded with girod Meyo because they wrote it into his
contract that he would be the successor to Bill Belichick.
Then I think they quickly realized he was not ready
to be a head coach. And it goes back to
what I've said many many times, not every great coordinator,
good coordinator, deserves to be a head coach. Ben Johnson
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is the object of desire right now. I don't know
what he's like. I've never heard him interviewed. I don't
know what it's like when you're up there and you're
answering questions you just lost a tough game. I don't
know what kind of culture is he able to be
around Dan Campbell and go I'm gonna have that same
culture wherever I go. I don't know is he going.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
To go to the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
How does that go with Tom Brady's game this weekend.
He's got that game, He's got the Lions game of
the Commanders. What happens if they show Ben Johnson on
the sideline is Tom Brady, minority owner of the Raiders,
allowed to talk about Ben Johnson? Does he have any
inside info, which I would believe he would. I like
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how the NFL makes it seem like this isn't a
conflict of interest. Seaton brought up something this morning. He said,
imagine if Jerry Jones was going to be the analyst
for a game, he'd love that, and he's looking for
a head coach. Is there a conflict of interest there?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (04:54):
Seen, Yeah, I mean like, could you imagine Robert Kraft
immediately like, well, you know here, may I really not
get it done. I think we're going to fire him
at the end of the game, and that means we're
open for business.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But the NFL, you know, the NFL is bending over
backwards to help Tom. It feels like or looking the
other way. Conflict of interest, that is what it is.
And then you go back in the way back machine
to how they went after Tom, like you know, they
were going after him in a big time, big way,
(05:27):
like they were investigating him. Then this is like, you know,
he's with Fox, He's going to be calling the Super Bowl.
Let's play nice. Probably his last year as a broadcaster.
No conflict of interest here, yes, eaton, I love.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
Like this is such a blatant conflict of interest that's
right in our faces.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
That makes me wonder what are the other.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
Conflicts of interest that they're also like, Ah, don't worry
about that, that's no big deal. Don't worry about it.
Because this one is right in our faces. Everybody could
see it. There's probably a million more that are behind
the scenes that they're like, I just wink at that,
don't worry about that.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
What about if it's a blowout. Let's say the lines
are up by twenty one with I don't know, seven
minutes to go, you got to fill a little time,
and all of a sudden, you're gonna go, uh well,
Ben Johnson's gonna get a job Tom somewhere. Yeah, he
certainly seems like a good candidate to me.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Anymore on that, Tom.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
No, that's all I have.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
Raiders are looking to hire a new coach sometime before
the draft.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That they wait, is that your Tom Brady?
Speaker 7 (06:28):
All of a sudden, he's got a hardcore accent where
he talks about you know, the podcast for the I
was talking about the draft on the podcast, whoa What dude.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Where did that accent come from? I now, now I'm
gonna be listening for that.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Yes, Todd or Brady goes the other way and pretends
he's not interested. It's like, I Ben, everybody's on this
Ben Johnson bandwagon. I don't know when.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Everyone that's the reson.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Then he swoops in at the last minute when everyone
thinks that the Raiders aren't interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's the Ben wagon. I think it's I'm on the
bedwagon here.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Does he go out of his way to say, yeah,
I don't know, I don't get it, you know, all right,
gimme key plays. I don't know if that works consistent.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Some are just coordinators.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
They're not necessarily going to make great head coaches.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Yes, yes, both or Brady goes the other way.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Sam Laporta catches like a pass on the I cannot
wait to see him dial that up for hours next year.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
I can't wait. Like he just puts it all out there.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah yeah, uh so that's no conflict of interest there
with that game coming up this weekend with the Lions
and the Commanders. See, now you're going to listen. Now
we're going to read into how many times do you
listen to a game where you're going to be reading
into maybe an ulterior motive. Troy Aikman came out after
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with the last game that he and Joe did and
said something about the Cowboys job not being a good
job or desirable. But Troy is not part of the Cowboys,
or he's not part of another organization ripping the Cowboys.
Tom Is he's got his fingerprints all over this. He's
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going to be making these changes, He's making these decisions,
but he's also going to be broadcasting a game where
maybe the number one candidate for the head coaching vacancies
is going to be coaching eight seven seven three DP
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they have the Bills and the Lions plus five point fifty.
So they're not factoring in the Commanders or the Rams
in this situation. And if you're betting, the best odds
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according to Vegas, will be the Chiefs and the Lions
meeting in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yes, Paul, So as of today, Vegas likes the Eagles
more than the Lions.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
They no, No, they have the Lions against the Chiefs. Oh,
and then that's their Chiefs against Yeah, they have the
Chiefs against the Eagles, got it, And then they had
the raven No, they really like the Lions because they've
got them facing the Chiefs and facing the Ravens and
facing the Bills. So if I'm going to plan this,
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the Bills versus the Lions would be where I would go.
Somebody's went in a Super Bowl here? Yeah? Is that
how they sell it? And welcome to the Super Bowl.
Somebody has to when this game these And can you
imagine the pain for one of these fan bases if
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Buffalo plays Detroit, which fan base would hurt more if
they lost this super Oh boy, I'm skewing negative eleven
minutes in Dang. I started out great with Strawberry Quick,
then i went to Brady conflict of interest, and now
I'm talking about pain misery for a fan base. Yes, Paul,
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I think this is a good question.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And my instant reaction was the Bills would have more pain.
They've been expecting to get a Super Bowl for the
past five years. They finally get there. They had the
zero for four stretch. Lions never even had that stretch,
and then you lose to the team that's never been there.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But considering this is recency bias from you just lost
in dramatic fashion last year, fear of the Lions. So
it's not like the Buffalo Bills back in the nineties
when they're losing Super Bowls. It's this is the Lions
team that's supposed to win the Super Bowl. Are we
they're the favorites?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Are we instituting the pain meter as of today?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Sure? Yeah, Seaton, what's the pole question?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Do we want to start out with which fan base
would suffer more? In a No, I can't do that.
I can't do that today because that's what we're doing
By the way, if you're going to be in New
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pole question we're going with seedon.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
It's definitely one of them.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Wow, that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Which fan base would suffer more? Or if they lost
to the Super Bowl? Buffalo Bill's Detroit lyons that is
a lot of fun. We could also put up there.
Tom Brady being an NFL broadcaster and owner is a
massive conflict of interest or no big deal?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, let's go round the room here, because I want
to be fair to the topic here, Todd, do you
think it's a conflict of interest that Brady is a
minority owner while calling games?
Speaker 6 (12:26):
I think it's a conflict of interest, But if the
phrase is massive conflict of interest, I would lean the
other way.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I think it's a conflict of interest.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I don't think it's a massive conflict.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
In Okay, Seaton, Uh okay, maybe we'll take out massive.
Then I would say it is a massive conflict of interest. Okay,
all right then, especially more like the more that it's
not exactly a new story, but the more that it
sits with me, and the more that everybody's just kicking
around head coaching candidates and all this stuff, and you're like,
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you got this dude doing kate.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
This is crazy.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
How in the world could you allow that to happen?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Conflict of interest?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
As much as I love minority owner in the NFL,
no conflict of interest.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, it is oh, okay, okay, Paully conflict of interest.
It's the definition of conflict of interest. It's direct. It's
not even like a layer removed. And what's worse is
the NFL gave Tom special treatment to make it happen.
They let him become a broadcaster and approved him becoming
an owner, which they did not have to do in
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any way.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, it's like I they could have kept him in
the on deck circle before, you know, But I don't
think the NFL wants him to get out of the
broadcasting Booth. I think that they want him there. I
think Fox of course wants him there, and he's going
to be doing the Super Bowl. But as I've said
for the last couple of months, it feels like he's
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moving on to something else, and maybe he's won and
done during these games and he gets to do a
Super Bowl. Yes, Paul, it's kind of.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Like Seaton said, almost jokingly about Jerry Jones. Would they
make him a broadcaster? If I were an NBA broadcast team,
I would consider hiring someone like Mark Cuban to be
on my staff. But the conflict would be he owns
the Mavericks and you couldn't. But he's a star, he's
a good guy, he talks well. If I'm a can
the NBA do this? I don't think they could.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Well. I think he's now a minority owner with the Mavericks,
so it would be identical if he was doing games.
I think Mark sold a good portion of the Dallas Mavericks.
I think so.
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Speaker 4 (15:53):
Friend?
Speaker 9 (15:54):
Listen? Forget about five hundred. I'm excited about five oh one.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
All that san far behind me, thankfully. It's been a.
Speaker 9 (16:02):
Dream journey to this point, and they get better every week.
Buffalo hosting Baltimore this week it's five oh one. I
can't wait to get there and I'm as always tickle
to be on with you leading up to it.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
More to gain in your opinion, Josh Allen or Lamar
Jackson in this.
Speaker 9 (16:20):
Game, and you're going to be talking individual accolades here,
and I can tell you that knowing both of them
well enough to know this is all about trying to
get to the Super Bowl for them. So if you
say Josh has more to gain, it's only through the
lens of getting to a super Bowl for him. You
know he's going to be happy with whatever it takes
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to get there and try to return that franchise for
the first time in thirty some odd years. But then
you got Lamaro's had his best year ever doing just
jaw dropping things as well. But he wants to get
to a super Bowl. So that's a tough question to
answer because they both feel like this is the year.
And I could give you a pretty compelling argument why
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I think either one of them are very capable of
winning the Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
What was it like? Who was jim nance? Game number
one of the five hundred?
Speaker 9 (17:18):
It was Vinnie Testa Verdi and the Tampa Bay Bucks
at Chris Chandler in the Indianapolis Colts. The great Pat
Hayden was with me on the call. It was October
of nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I was a studio.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
Host for our college football's scoreboard show back in those days,
the Prudential College Football Report. I worked in the studio
in New York on Saturday, parachuted in for the game
on Sunday, doing all my production meetings and all of
that research by phone. So I didn't have the full
treatment as you will on most occasions getting ready for
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a game. The night that I flew in after hosting
the stud udio show was a night that Kurt Gibson
hit the home run in the World Series. And remember
you remember the Jack Buck call on the home run.
I can't believe what.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I just saw.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
I can't believe what I just saw. Well, last week
was number five hundred. As I look back at the
scope of it all and the good fortune I've had
to be at so many big games in my career,
I could truly say, just like it was uttered that
very first weekend for me.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I can't believe what I just saw.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
When's the last time you had announcer envy?
Speaker 9 (18:42):
I mean, all the time, you know me well enough
to know that maybe I'll look at things differently. I
admire so many people in our industry. I know it's
a competitive business. I've never felt like it from that viewpoint.
I admire so much many people that I hear and
listen to. I was watching TGL last night and listen
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to Matt Barry calling golf.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
I knew he is a golf guy.
Speaker 9 (19:07):
I don't know Matt really barely at all, but I
was admiring what a good job he did.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
You know, it's a tough situation there.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
In a made up environment with golf into a simulator.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
But it's all the time.
Speaker 9 (19:19):
You know, my deep respect for those that came before me,
and you know that like the Elder Statesman for me
now is is Al Michaels. And you know, listening to
Al do a game last week, I just love hearing
his cadence's voice. He's been such a magnificent friend in
my life, someone to look up to and still a
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kick every time I talked to him, which is frequently.
But the other thing that was brought to light last
week on the five hundred Dan was that in CBS
has this history with the league where the original network
partner of the NFL, and go back to the fifties,
think Alan Amichi, think of that game and the Giants
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in the Baltimore Folts and that was you know, Chris
Shenko back then. But you look at people that actually
called games play by play at CBS at some point
in their careers, includes Al Michaels. Al started at Bob Costas,
was a play by play announcer for a year or
two before he went to DC, but Summer all Lundquist
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in Bird the last ten years of his career. Kirk
Goudy ended his career at CBS. This is a dangerous game,
by the way, because you start going through all the
Jim McKay did games for CBS on the NFL. Jack Whittaker,
of course, Ray Scott, Frank Difford. I mean it is
a you know, Dick Stockton. People don't realize he called
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the second most NFL games of all time, had a
great Hall of Fame career. Frank Glieber again and named
is forgotten, but he was a long time number two
behind Pat. I felt a little bit of I felt
connected to them. Last week, I was the first to
reach five hundred games play by play. Now it was surprising.
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Somebody did the research on it.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Pat.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
Some are all did seven hundred games in his career.
Some of them were at Fox, most of them were
at CBS, but some of them were as an analyst
when we were young kids. So his play by play
numbers at CBS never reached five hundred. And I just
felt honored to take the torch and try to run
with it instead a new mark, and then, you know what,
(21:44):
I had enough of it.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
It's been discussed.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
I'm honored and plattered be given the chance, and I'm
ready to go do five oh one this week, five
oh two next week, and put the fanfare behind me
and go watch some great games.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Is there an emergency? I don't want to jinx. You guys,
an emergency plan if you're not able to do the
game at the Super Bowl, there is.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
I've never seen an emergency plan put in place in
advance of that. But we're worry warts. Those of us
who make are living with our voices. And you know,
when I've worked as many weeks in a year as
I have for thirty seven years, I was working coast
of forty eight weeks a year between college basketball, the NFL,
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and golf. So of course you're going to have your
battles along the way with a cold or the flu,
and how are you going to get through it? You know,
you worry yourself about being around anyone who is sick.
My little boy and I have a young son, Jamison.
He had the sniffles last night. He said he had
a sore throat. I mean, it's just I had all
the guardrails up, still trying to interact, put him to bed,
(22:55):
say his prayers, sing a nighttime song, and I thankful
he felt better this morning. But I started to do
the map on it. Two days from now, I could
have whatever he is starting to come down with. And
I'm going to go into this weekend compromise.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
But we we do. We do find a way to
survive it.
Speaker 9 (23:14):
Anything that's you know, short of laryngiatis, we're pretty much
gonna tough it out. I could hear in Troy Aikman's
voice the other night. I could hear something was going
on with him. There was a hoarseness that I know.
He wasn't one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
He's Jim Nantz, the Hall of Famer. He'll be on
the call five oh one. Don't bring up five hundred
to him. It's the Ravens and the Bills. The AFC
Divisional playoffs. Go back to the last time the Super
Bowl was in New Orleans, and when you first got
an inkling that there was an issue with the power outage,
he did, I.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
Gotta give it to your brother. You come up with
the best questions. It's just no one, no one like you.
So obviously I'm not ready for that answer if I
wanted to really give it a thought. But it's just easy, okay.
I was there with Phil Simps. It was like nine
thirty eight to go in the third quarter. The Ravens
had the football at roughly their own forty three yard line,
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and there was a black O handoff and there was
a run up the middle, and all of a sudden,
all my monitors went this black, complete dark, and in
my headset, I can't hear me finishing the call. I
was in the middle of a call, so I just
thought there was a power surge in the booth. But
you know, right after that, of course, in a millisec
(24:35):
you realize the lights are out, the whole thing's coming down,
the whole broadcast is probably off the air. I mean
it took you had to do some quick processing about
what was happening. So I have no link to the truck.
I can't hear from the producers. I don't have any
visual cues. We're all in the dark, figuratively and literally.
(24:58):
But my cell phone was work king, So I called
Lance Berrow, our producer in the truck. Now that was
a dumb thing to do, because he was just as
I'm sure it is, more in the center of the
storm than I was. But he didn't pick up. But
I was trying to just hey, what's going on? And
then I thought, let me call Melissa. You guys all
(25:20):
know Melissa. She's been my chief of staff or a
quarter of a century. And I called her cell phone
and said what in the world is happening right now?
And she explained that we were knocked off the air.
You know, you had all kinds of really not so
good thoughts at that point. This is twenty thirteen. You know,
(25:40):
you're wondering if is it a terrorist attack? You hate
to even say it, but you don't know what it is.
And as you know, it took thirty five minutes before
everything was restored, and that overshadowed really what was a
compelling game right down to the wire. People forget San
Francisco had four plays inside the ten yard line last
minute to try to win the game, four incompletions, Kaepernick
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on three of them to Michael Crabtree, all defended and incomplete.
It was a game that was in the thirties. It
was a one score game, and no one remembers that.
All they remember is the night the lights went out
in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I also remember Steve Tasker being pressed into service as
sort of the guy on duty. He was like the
night watchman and his microphone was working and he kind
of was hosting the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
We could not find well.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
First off, the studio show is in one of those
collapsible sets that takes four or five minutes to get
it standing, and Jab and all the crew were hurriedly
getting into place. But you were looking for someone to
be able to be on mike and to help carry
the moment. And Phil and I had no line of communication.
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We're still out and Steve, Steve filled in brilliantly.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You got paid for a full game, though, didn't you.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
You know I should go back and look at it.
But can I tell you a secret. Honestly, I would
pay to do the game. That's the dirty little secret.
I can say it now that I've got a long
term contract, and I'm you know what, I've always been
forth right about it.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I would do all of this for free, Romos.
Speaker 9 (27:32):
I mean, as long as I could have a house
and be able to provide for my kids and everything.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
It's never what it's about.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
It's about, well, partly, it's about fulfilling the big part
of the fulfilling the childhood dream to be a voice,
not to be the story, but to be the story
teller and be able to attend these events. And you know,
it's it's all. It's all a gift. It's about legacy too, Dan.
That's why when I look at happening sometimes in sport.
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Let's take what's going on in golf, and some have
left the PGA tour. I'm not going to get deeply
into all of that, but you have to make a
legacy decision at some point. You know, you've been blessed
enough to be given the chance, and you probably made
a few bucks along the way.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
What is it really about for you? Well, it's about
being able to say that you've lived out your dream
and this is what you did. It's about legacy, and
that's how I feel about it now that I'm.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
Reaching these certain milestones. They come a little bit more
frequently with long devity, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
These days.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Let's go to Tony Romo get his thoughts. Tony Jim
says that he would work for free. How about you,
would you work for free?
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Well, I mean, Tony, I've certainly made enough money all
this time away. Yeah, I think I can provide for
myself in about thirty seven thousand other families. Yeah, yeah,
I think I would.
Speaker 9 (29:02):
Okay, it's great to get Tony engaged in the show
right now.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
He's my guy. I love it.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Tell Tony now, if Romo can't do it, Seaton, I
think could be his understudy.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
I don't know what am I gonna do? You want
to run it here, you want to what would you
do to.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Dayton? Why don't you make way up to uh? In
the bullpen by guy?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I'd love it. I'd love it.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
If you look back, though, can you extract one moment
that that would stand alone over everything else that you've done.
When you speak a legacy, one moment, whether it's football, basketball,
or Dolph.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
That's when you're talking about one event, one game call,
or one thing that I had. Well, the most special
thing of all will always be April twelfth, nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Nothing had ever topped that for me. Well, I get
there is one thing.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
I don't get to that maybe in a second here,
But that was when my old dorm suitet mate at
the University of Houston Bread Couples, won the Masters.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
We used to have.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
These crazy dreams that one day he was going to
win the Masters, that that was all about legacy for him,
that was his life goal. And of course by this time,
first day I show up on campus, I make the
declaration that one day I want to work for CBS,
Like that's going to happen. Fortunately, it did, and blessedly
it did for me. But his dream was to win
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the Masters. My dream was to one day broadcast the Masters,
and I also wanted the broadcasts for CBS because I
love the way they presented the NFL raised on a
heavy diet of let's say, summer all in Brookshire, summer
all in Madden. So in our dorm room, you know
the story Dan, not every day, but on a couple
of occasions, along with Blaine McCallister, our great roommate, who
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had a spectacular career, won five times on the tour himself,
we used to practice the green Jackets ceremony, just kids
make believe, dreaming, just imagining something, opening up your mind,
what that moment could be like. And I'm sitting there
in a dorm room, room one oh one, Tom Hall Taub.
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It's now been raised, but there we are. Fred's sitting
across from me, and we're doing an imaginary interview. He's
just won the Masters, and I'm hosting the presentation. So
in nineteen ninety two, that actually happened, except we weren't
in dorm room. We were in Butler Cabin and the
world was watching. So how do you beat that? There's
only one way that that could ever be better for me,
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and that is that's when my son Jamison wins the
Masters and he comes in the Butler cabin and I
say hello son and goodbye friends.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
That will be it. That's the last show.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Not to play, to walk off on them.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
But I mean, that's how outrageous it would have to
be to better that moment for me. But other than that, listen,
last year's Super Bowl, you know, went three second shy
of five full quarters. The most watched television show in
the history of American television by a lot, not by
like one percent, by twelve percent.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Two hundred and three million Americans watched it one time.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
Normally I don't even care about that, But now that
we were walking around with the belt, the championship belt,
I'm making believe here now it was a great game
the broadcast. Thankfully for our production team, it won the Emmy.
So proud of the thousand people that presented that that
day and in all those years of doing the NCAA Tournament,
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there are just too many to isolate. And back at
that little place in Augusta, Georgia, Tiger nineteen ninety seven,
a win for the ages pass forward to twenty nineteen.
This scene plays out again, the return to glory, and
Tiger is walking off the green and he's hugging Charlie,
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his son. It's a perfect and perfect symmetry with the
scene we had seen twenty two years before, when Tiger
walked off the green breaking all the records in the
history of augusta youngest champion, largest margin of victory, the
seventy two hole scoring record, the youngest ever. And there
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was Earl, his dad. If you GPSD it, I would
say that it happened on the exact same spot Earl
hug Tiger. Twenty two years later, Tiger hugs Charlie. It
went from a father to a son, and now the
son's the father and he's having the same moment with
his son. If you're in the storytelling business, it's about
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as rich as it gets, about as high drama as
it gets. You know, thankfully we're on camera. As you know,
there are shedding a few silent tears along the way.
Is all that's happening. If you have a heartbeat, you
realize the gravity.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Of that moment.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Great to reminisce.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
I love reminiscing with you. You know I'm wearing something here.
I just I know they've got a lot going on
out there. But this is Bellair Country Club's shields, okay,
and Owl's a part of that. I've been fortunate to
be a part of that club for a long time
as a member.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
We have a lot.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
Of our families out there that have lost their homes.
It's it's a lot. It's there are many many unfortunately
lived in the Palisades and what's going on in LA.
I don't want the story to just we get numb
to things like this. These are families, these are people,
lives were but the twenty six is the.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Death toll now.
Speaker 9 (34:55):
And I'm just as I said signing off on Sunday
from Buffalo after the Buffalo Denver game, LA, We're thinking
of you, we're praying for you, and really tough times.
So we're out here talking fun and games. That's real life.
And people's whole entire lives have been uprooted life savings,
you know, starting from scratch in the middle of their
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lives and maybe later in their business careers whatever.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
It's all gone.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
And it's not just because it's three days and retired
to the story. Let's move on to something else. It's
real and I'm just thinking of all my families out
there that I know, many of whom you would know, Dan,
and it's just indescribable.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Have fun this weekend. Thanks for joining us. As always,
I'm coming to see you the summer. By the way,
I'm on your door up there. Hello.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Okay, I know where you are.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Now do you want to come in for a meet Friday.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Into that studio right there?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Well, this is Maine, now that's what.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I'm talking about. I'm going to make it this summer.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Okay, Well it's it's not Butler's cabin, it's Danny's cabin.
But we'd love to have you. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I don't need to be on the air. If you
need an emergency, you talk about emergency fill in. If
maybe a guest doesn't show up, I'll pop on for
five minutes. But I'd like to see the studio.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
But better than that, i'd like to go out and
have a lunch with you afterwards, so I'll find you.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Sounds great.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Thank you, Thanks, Dan, all the best.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
That's Jim NaN's Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
So we just played in or out as we welcome
in Robert Griffin Junior the third to play in or Out.
You can check out out of Pocket with RG three
on YouTube wherever you get your podcast. Good to talk
to you again. All right, are you in or out?
Sam Donald staying with the Vikings?
Speaker 10 (37:10):
Oh yeah, I mean I'm out. I'm out on that
JJ McCarthy. You know, I you know, if people tend
to forget about JJ, but I was a huge JJ
guy coming out. I know why NFL coaches love him.
He can make the practical plays. He's not a stat merchant,
he's not worried about those types of things. But he
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can also make the off schedule play and has the
athleticism and mobility that you look for. Sam Donald, in
my opinion, I don't think that his fall off was
as big dan as people are making it out to be.
I think the eighteen weeks of the season or the
seventeen weeks of the.
Speaker 11 (37:47):
Season that he played well still are gonna, you know,
help him in free agency.
Speaker 10 (37:53):
But I do not think that he'll be back with Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Are you in or out that the Cowboys Dun Sanders
story is a real story.
Speaker 11 (38:05):
I'm in with an asterisk.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
I've talked to Dion and I knew this months ago
that the only way he'll go to the NFL is
if he has an opportunity to coach his sons, and
he's been very adamant about that recently. It wasn't my
information to share at the time, but I don't think
he's gonna go to the NFL just to be an
NFL coach, and he doesn't want to chase after his sons.
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He's set them up to be in a position where
they can be highly drafted. If you're Shader and Shallah
will have a chance to go play in the NFL
as well.
Speaker 11 (38:37):
But I'm in.
Speaker 10 (38:38):
I think he's the best option and Dan I got
to say, I was the first person to say it
when it wasn't popular last year on the SETTM on
a Night Countdown.
Speaker 11 (38:46):
So I'm in on that.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I've been saying all along that I thought that there
was something up with him with the Raiders. If they
were going to get the number one pick and Dion
could have gone there and taken his son number one,
could you have seen that scenario because I thought that
since Tom got in there as the part time owner,
minority owner.
Speaker 10 (39:07):
Yeah, I thought for sure, And I know that Dion,
you know, he's very supportive of other coaches, and this
is something that I'm not sure people really pay attention
to a ton where it was Kenny Dillingham at Arizona State,
where there's Marcus Freeman, where there's Mike Vick in his
situation Inofolk State. He's very supportive coach of other coaches,
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and he didn't want to undercut Antonio Pierce. So I
remember they were at that banquet a few weeks ago
when Peerce was the coach, and he was like, hey
draft my son blah blah blah, because he wants his
son to be in a situation that, you know, Tom
Brady being there have an influence mentoring Shador would be great.
Speaker 11 (39:43):
So I was in on that as well.
Speaker 10 (39:45):
I didn't think that Dallas was the only place that
Dion could go and be a head coach in the NFL,
but I did think that before this season they should
have fired Mike McCarthy and hired Dion to bring an
identity and a culture there to Dallas that he's brought
to it with him to Jackson State and now also
to Colorado.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
All Right, are you in or out Shadore pulling in
Eli Manning Tennessee or Cleveland? Where to draft him? Man?
Speaker 11 (40:21):
I think I'd be in.
Speaker 10 (40:22):
I'd be in because at the end of the day,
I'm a player empowerment guy.
Speaker 11 (40:29):
And it's funny.
Speaker 10 (40:30):
Because last year I said that Caleb william should have
pulled an Ali Manning on the Chicago Bears, and a
lot of people got upset with me. But Dan, I
don't know if you noticed, I ended up being right
about that. And the bottom line is structure matters, who
the coach is matters, who you have around you matters.
And if Shadur, because he's a grown man, feels that
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Tennessee or Cleveland are not the right place for him,
then that's his decision to make. I, for one, believe
that they're not.
Speaker 11 (40:56):
The right place for him, So I'd be in on that.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Who more to gain from a win this weekend in
Buffalo with Josh Allen Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 10 (41:06):
I think Lamar Jackson has more to gain if you
look at their playoff numbers. Josh Allen has a quarterback
rating over one hundred, and his krypt Knit has really
been Patrick Mahomes and the knsas City chiefs Lamar Krypton
Knight has been his second playoff game and just his
success in the playoffs altogether.
Speaker 11 (41:24):
So I think if Lamar.
Speaker 10 (41:25):
Loses, you will see or should I say the Baltimore
Ravens lose, because quarterbacks don't win lose games. But if
the Ravens lose, you'll see a lot of people come
out and destroy and destroyer Lamar Jackson. And in this case,
I would I would have to agree that it's warranted.
This is an MVP showdown. And then I wish I
wish the trophy was on the line in this game
because that would be just add so much more intrigue
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to it. But I do think Lamar has more to lose.
But I don't think the game comes down to Lamar Josh.
I think it comes down to Derreck Henry and James Cook.
And that's I believe that's the matchup between those two
in the offense, two lines up front will determine who
wins the game.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Talking to r G three, fill in the blank, Justin
Herbert is blank.
Speaker 10 (42:08):
Justin Herbert is Philip Rivers. That's what he is right now,
and Philip Rivers it is a compliment. Dan, would you
would you love to have the career that Philip Rivers had?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Compared to who?
Speaker 10 (42:25):
I'm asking you just as a as a fan, as
a guy who's covered the game, would you love to
have the career that Philip Rivers had?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I would take Joe Flacco's over Philip Rivers, but should
not answer the question. Would you I think that most
I would take Philip Rivers career?
Speaker 11 (42:44):
Yes, I think most fans would would take Philip Rivers career.
Speaker 10 (42:46):
So when you say is it a compliment, I'm saying
it just depends on who you what you're how you're
looking at this. Is it a compliment to or is
it would you rather have Philip rivers career.
Speaker 11 (42:56):
Or Peyton Manning's career? Paid Manning?
Speaker 10 (43:00):
So for Justin Herbert, he has to decide at some
point it can't be everybody else's issue anymore. He's had
three head coaches and four offensive coordinators. Every single coach
he's had has been blamed for his lack of success.
In the playoffs, he throws four interceptions, not every single
one of them were on him. I'm not going to
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go so far as to say that he is not
a good quarterback, because he is a good quarterback, but
at some point when it's nut cutting time, he has
to step up in the playoffs, and it can't be well,
it was this coach's fault or that coordinator didn't get
it done. And now I'm hearing people talk about Greg
Roman again and how Greg.
Speaker 11 (43:37):
Roman is the issue. He didn't do this, he didn't
do that.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
And I just looked at him and say, Herbert is
not blaming the media is making excuses for Justin Herbert.
Speaker 11 (43:51):
And I agree that.
Speaker 10 (43:52):
I want to be very clear there, Justin Herbert took
full accountability and responsibility after the game for how he played.
This is not a Justin Herbert things. It's more of
a US thing. Right in the media, We're all in
this together. We got to be able to hold him
accountable to the same lengths that we hold Lamar Jackson,
Dak Prescott or even Peyton Manning when he was early
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in his career didn't have a ton of playoff success.
Herbert is now in that realm where he's gonna make
a decision if is he gonna be Philip rivers or
is he gonna be able to turn the corner and
be a Peyton Manning type.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
But I think when you lumped him in with Dak
Prescott and Lamar Jackson, to me, they shouldn't be lumped
in because Dak is the quarterback of the Cowboys. Yes,
always going to get more credit and more blame always.
Lamar's a two time MVP and hasn't done anything in
the postseason. Justin Herbert, I think is propped up by
a portion of the media that wants him to be
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a great quarterback. He's not a great quarterback. Lamar's won
two MVPs. He has got to perform in the postseason.
That's what we expect that MVPs. And Dak you know,
you walk into that position and you know you're going
to get criticized. And Dak has not really done much.
And now he's thirty two coming off hamstring surgery and
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so he can't he's injury prone, in immobile. And now
whoever takes over the Cowboys inherits that that's that's not
a good recipe there.
Speaker 10 (45:20):
Yeah, And you're talking about my tweet from a couple
of days ago when the when the Chargers lost. And
the reason I I, Mike and Dave you know Anita
wedding date, lumped them all in together is because, yes,
I can understand the Lamar Jackson piece.
Speaker 11 (45:35):
Two. Yeah, you like that movie reference. It's a great movie.
I don't know why people don't like it.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
It's a great movie.
Speaker 10 (45:40):
I understand the Lamar Jackson piece, the two time MVP.
But now we're just creating these subcategories for well, we're
gonna criticize this guy, but not this guy. Lamar's success
in the playoffs or lack thereof, or of how he's played,
he still made it to an AFC Championship game. Justin
Herbert hasn't even sniffed that. So when you look at
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Dak Prescott and what he's been able to do, Yeah,
as the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, that's awesome. But
I'm not gonna subdivide that and say I'm gonna give
Dak more criticism just.
Speaker 11 (46:11):
Because he's a quarterback of the Cowboys.
Speaker 10 (46:13):
I'm gonna give Lamar more criticism despite the fact that
he's done more than almost every quarterback in his draft
class when it comes to his success on the field.
Justin Herbert has unbelievable stats. You probably know all of
the NFL records that he's broken, from passing yards to
passing touchdowns to wins and everything in between. I do
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think he is a great quarterback. The question is is
he a clutch quarterback when it matters? And right now
he hasn't been. And for that, to me, it's you
either give everybody grace and you say, hey, it took
Steve Young seven eight years to figure it out, it
took Manning eight nine years to figure it out, or
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you make sure you criticize them all at the same level,
because quarterbacks always get the most praise and they always
get the more criticism, right, more praise than they deserve,
more criticism they deserved. We can't create these subcategories and say,
all right, well, we're not gonna go after Justin Herbert
just because he's not the quarterback of the Cowboys and
he's not a two time MVP.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
But who's not going after him?
Speaker 10 (47:16):
Do you think Justin Herbert gets the same amount of
criticism that Lamar Jackson does or Dak Prescott, or.
Speaker 11 (47:21):
To a tongue of.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Lamar is a two time MVP.
Speaker 11 (47:25):
What about to a tongue of a LA. Let's take
let's take Lamar out of it. Do you think do
you think Justin Herbert gets the same criticism as to
a tongue of by law?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Tua gets a whole passed because of his health.
Speaker 11 (47:36):
Tua does not get a hall passed that they had
a whole good can't makes right?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
He Do you think that he's a great quarterback?
Speaker 11 (47:49):
I do, and I think he's the perfect quarterback for
Mike McDaniels offense.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Why would Tyreek wan out if you've got this great
quarterback there?
Speaker 10 (47:58):
Well, Tyreek probably one out because Tyreek wants to win
Super Bowls and.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
You can't do that with Tua.
Speaker 11 (48:05):
I think you can. But Tua was banged up.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
This year and two is gonna be banged up. We
hold our breath. I think that we we hold our
breath with him. I don't think people are critical of him.
I don't really nowhere near no, nowhere near the other quarterback. No,
we got a whole pass. He got a whole pass
because of his health. What were his numbers this year?
What did he do this year? What did the Dolphins
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do this year?
Speaker 10 (48:31):
Well, he showed that he's the he's the MVP of
the Dolphins because when he was out they couldn't sniff
a win. But then when he came back, he actually
helped them get back into playoff contention and have a
chance at the end of the season to make the
actual playoffs.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
So so if they said you're gonna have to of
moving forward or Justin Herbert, who would take?
Speaker 11 (48:51):
Yeah? I hate that question, Dan.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Dammit, you set it up.
Speaker 11 (48:58):
I didn't set it up. You set it up. You're
just Dolphins ID I did bring in to her I
did if I had, if I had.
Speaker 10 (49:07):
If I had to pick, if I had to pick,
I'm I'm taking I'm taking to a talking about law.
Speaker 11 (49:11):
I am I'm taking to over Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
I don't you don't believe that?
Speaker 4 (49:16):
You do?
Speaker 9 (49:17):
Believe?
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Not believe. Let's go around the room. Who believes that
r G three is telling me the truth? Todd? Do
you think he's telling the truth?
Speaker 5 (49:24):
I think he is.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Oh, suck up appreciation, Tod. My god, see you think
RG three is telling me the truth? I do? I
believe he's telling you the truth? Yes, oh my god.
Speaker 10 (49:37):
Now the question, Dan, the better question is would they
take to over Justin? Because I don't think a lot
of people would I think. I think from watching the
tape and watching the two guys play, if health is
not an issue, because health is an issue for both
of them, Let's be honest, well.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Really an issue for two. It's really an issue for two.
Speaker 10 (49:58):
If you could guarantee that Tua never gets another concussion,
I'm taking to Yeah, but I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
That's part of what you take. Paulie, you want to
call out RG three.
Speaker 5 (50:07):
Yeah, Robert was lying to you. His voice went up
three octaves. I believe it. I believe it.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, Paulie used to work for the FBI
giving light detector tests. Yeah, he's calling you out before
I let you go. Whenever I read we not whenever,
but a lot of times I'll read about Jaden Daniels
and then there'll be the cautionary tale where they bring
up you that you know you had this meteoric rise,
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you were Jaden Daniels before him. But is it fair
to bring you up? Is it cautionary tale? Yes, playing
for the same franchise of getting hurt or putting yourself
at risk with the way you play.
Speaker 10 (50:45):
No, I don't think it's fair at all. I don't
think it's fair to Jayden. I don't think it's fair
to the commander's organization because there's this thing that I
said in the off season. I got much maligned for
about the Chicago Bears and how their structure wasn't conducive
to a young quarterback being successful, and the caveat to that,
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or should I say the example off of that, was
how well Washington was built. New head coach, new GM,
new ownership, new offensive coordinator that knew how to utilize
a mobile, duel threat, triple threat quarterback like Jayden Daniels,
and veteran leadership on the team, bringing in Bobby Wagner,
having Austin Eckler in the running back room, Brian Robinson
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being a bulldozing ram.
Speaker 11 (51:29):
Having Scary Terry at wide receiver. All of those.
Speaker 10 (51:33):
Things made Washington's situation so much better. And when you
look at my situation when I came out as a rookie,
I was with an owner in Dan Snyder and a
head coach and Mike Shanahan who were feuding.
Speaker 11 (51:48):
I did not know that at the time.
Speaker 10 (51:50):
I was just a young twenty two year old kid,
but there was not the uniformity throughout the organization that
Washington has now. And that's why I always say organizations
and NFL teams screw up more young quarterbacks than they.
Speaker 11 (52:04):
Actually helped succeed.
Speaker 10 (52:06):
But she got to hit it at the right time,
and right now, Jayden Daniels in Washington hit it at
the exact right time. They take care of him. They've
removed the dark cloud from the organization. Everyone style though, Roberts, No,
that's what I feel. I'm with you, But the style
that his style of play and where you play and
who you're playing with all matters. That's what I'm trying
(52:28):
to say. Listen, I can't go back and have Heloly
Nada not hit me in my knee against the Baltimore Ravens.
I can't do that. There's no way for me to
do that. I think you could have. I mean, he couldn't.
He could have not hit me and.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
The way that he did.
Speaker 10 (52:43):
But that's a conversation for another time, Okay, and I
could and I and Dan I could have done a
much better job in my career of protecting myself.
Speaker 11 (52:50):
I think that's very well documented.
Speaker 10 (52:51):
I think what you'll see from Jadon Daniels if you
watch the tape is that he has done a much
better job protecting himself, getting down, sliding, avoiding some of
those That the.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Point I wanted, that's I wanted to make. I didn't
think it was fair to keep bringing you into this
because I do think he runs differently. He is protecting himself.
There were times when you took on contact. But I'm
watching Jaydan Daniels not going well, when's he gonna be
RG three? Because I think you guys, while having similar traits,
(53:21):
you're different quarterbacks and it's a different era, it's a
different organization. So that's the only reason when I brought
that up.
Speaker 10 (53:27):
By no, no, I, I I not rupt, Sorry, Bed,
I'm saying that his style of play and how.
Speaker 11 (53:37):
He's utilized matters. Okay, this is this is about Jayden
and Daniels.
Speaker 10 (53:43):
This is not about me, but all of those factors
that went into why where I was playing and what
was going on and.
Speaker 11 (53:48):
How I was utilized matter.
Speaker 10 (53:51):
Cliff Kingsbury is utilizing Jayden and Daniels better than I
was utilized when I was a young quarterback, and I
think that matters, and how they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
And the field's in better shape for chating Davis. That's
a good one.
Speaker 11 (54:03):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
He's r G three. Check out his podcast out of
Pocket with a with r G three on YouTube, wherever
you get your podcast. Great to catch up with you.
Speaker 11 (54:13):
Thanks, appreciate your brother, God bless thank you man.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
We made it. We did it. We made it to
a Wednesday. It's our one. It's already been a great day,
unbelievable day. Yesterday went to the supermarket and I'm walking
down an aisle and I see the strawberry Nesley's Quick.
Is that what it's called? Yeah? I haven't had it
in forty years? And I said, you know what, I'm
(00:25):
going to have some strawberry Quick. So I started my
day with strawberry Quick. I think that's what it's called. Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Why do you think that is? Because I think we
all have that stuff we loved as a kid. We
can now afford it and buy it anytime we want. Well,
we don't eat it or drink it.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Why is this?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I have no idea, no idea, but it just jumped
out at me. Haven't had it in forty years? Had
it this morning? And I said, you know what, I'm
going to have a second glass. That's how good I
feel today. Marvin, you're a big strawberry Quick guy, aren't you.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Absolutely, And now that I can afford it, I never
have it.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Hit it on the head. Why I don't know. I
don't know what that is like ovaltine. There's certain things.
I just walked by the aisle and I was going, God,
there's a cornicopia of things that I might want to
have for breakfast, and I decided on strawbery quick. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
When I was in high school, grade school, I used
to go through a sleeve of ruffles, Remember the what
was the one pringles in the can where you get
your ham stuck. I walked by them all the time.
I never get them.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Why is it?
Speaker 5 (01:29):
I wish I had that kind of willpower.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
I'll get the regular and the pizza flavor and the
surkey red onion.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I can't make up my mind.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You're coming out with cannisters there under your arm or
for nine bucks? Yeah? Who could pass that up and
not pass it? Alrighty, all's quiet, or all is quiet
on the coaching front, at least so far. And you
have the possibility of Mike McCarthy interviewing with the Bears today,
and then you have some of these other coaches who
(01:58):
were still in the postseason who aren't afforded that luxury. Now,
the Dallas Cowboys with Deon Sanders, that's going to get
a lot of run that's going to play out until
Dallas hires a coach. I don't think it's going to
be Dion. I think Jerry Jones did Diona solid Dion
is in negotiations for a contract extension at Colorado. He
(02:20):
would normally be getting that, but if there's the possibility
of the Raiders or the Cowboys, maybe he's able to
make some more money there. Because if you listen or
read what Dion had to say about his conversation with
Jerry Jones, he sort of implied inferred that he was
offered the job. Hey, you know, humbled by this, but
(02:42):
I got unfinished business at Colorado. I don't think there
was an offer here. It wasn't reported as an offer.
Dion kind of took it and said, basically, yeah, I'm
not going to take this job right now. I got
unfinished business. Wait a minute, I didn't offer the job
to you. Maybe gets around to doing that. Because normally
(03:03):
when you fire somebody, we always at least think the
owner has an idea who he's going to bring in.
I truly believe that the Craft family with the Patriots
knew they were bringing in Mike Brabel and probably knew
that in December. They probably knew that a month ago,
where it's like this is not working out, they would
have brought in Mike Brabel if they weren't already contractually
(03:27):
binded with girod Meyo because they wrote it into his
contract that he would be the successor to Bill Belichick.
Then I think they quickly realized he was not ready
to be a head coach. And it goes back to
what I've said many many times, not every great coordinator,
good coordinator, deserves to be a head coach. Ben Johnson
(03:47):
is the object of desire right now. I don't know
what he's like. I've never heard him interviewed. I don't
know what it's like when you're up there and you're
answering questions you just lost a tough game. I don't
know what kind of culture is he able to be
around Dan Campbell and go I'm gonna have that same
culture wherever I go. I don't know is he going.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
To go to the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
How does that go with Tom Brady's game this weekend.
He's got that game, He's got the Lions game of
the Commanders. What happens if they show Ben Johnson on
the sideline is Tom Brady, minority owner of the Raiders,
allowed to talk about Ben Johnson? Does he have any
inside info, which I would believe he would. I like
(04:34):
how the NFL makes it seem like this isn't a
conflict of interest. Seaton brought up something this morning. He said,
imagine if Jerry Jones was going to be the analyst
for a game, he'd love that, and he's looking for
a head coach. Is there a conflict of interest there?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (04:54):
Seen, Yeah, I mean like, could you imagine Robert Kraft
immediately like, well, you know here, may I really not
get it done. I think we're going to fire him
at the end of the game, and that means we're
open for business.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But the NFL, you know, the NFL is bending over
backwards to help Tom. It feels like or looking the
other way. Conflict of interest, that is what it is.
And then you go back in the way back machine
to how they went after Tom, like you know, they
were going after him in a big time, big way,
(05:27):
like they were investigating him. Then this is like, you know,
he's with Fox, He's going to be calling the Super Bowl.
Let's play nice. Probably his last year as a broadcaster.
No conflict of interest here, yes, eaton, I love.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
Like this is such a blatant conflict of interest that's
right in our faces.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
That makes me wonder what are the other.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
Conflicts of interest that they're also like, Ah, don't worry
about that, that's no big deal. Don't worry about it.
Because this one is right in our faces. Everybody could
see it. There's probably a million more that are behind
the scenes that they're like, I just wink at that,
don't worry about that.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
What about if it's a blowout. Let's say the lines
are up by twenty one with I don't know, seven
minutes to go, you got to fill a little time,
and all of a sudden, you're gonna go, uh well,
Ben Johnson's gonna get a job Tom somewhere. Yeah, he
certainly seems like a good candidate to me.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Anymore on that, Tom.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
No, that's all I have.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
Raiders are looking to hire a new coach sometime before
the draft.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That they wait, is that your Tom Brady?
Speaker 7 (06:28):
All of a sudden, he's got a hardcore accent where
he talks about you know, the podcast for the I
was talking about the draft on the podcast, whoa What dude.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Where did that accent come from? I now, now I'm
gonna be listening for that.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Yes, Todd or Brady goes the other way and pretends
he's not interested. It's like, I Ben, everybody's on this
Ben Johnson bandwagon. I don't know when.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Everyone that's the reson.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Then he swoops in at the last minute when everyone
thinks that the Raiders aren't interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's the Ben wagon. I think it's I'm on the
bedwagon here.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Does he go out of his way to say, yeah,
I don't know, I don't get it, you know, all right,
gimme key plays. I don't know if that works consistent.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Some are just coordinators.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
They're not necessarily going to make great head coaches.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Yes, yes, both or Brady goes the other way.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Sam Laporta catches like a pass on the I cannot
wait to see him dial that up for hours next year.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
I can't wait. Like he just puts it all out there.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah yeah, uh so that's no conflict of interest there
with that game coming up this weekend with the Lions
and the Commanders. See, now you're going to listen. Now
we're going to read into how many times do you
listen to a game where you're going to be reading
into maybe an ulterior motive. Troy Aikman came out after
(07:46):
with the last game that he and Joe did and
said something about the Cowboys job not being a good
job or desirable. But Troy is not part of the Cowboys,
or he's not part of another organization ripping the Cowboys.
Tom Is he's got his fingerprints all over this. He's
(08:07):
going to be making these changes, He's making these decisions,
but he's also going to be broadcasting a game where
maybe the number one candidate for the head coaching vacancies
is going to be coaching eight seven seven three DP
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So they're not factoring in the Commanders or the Rams
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(09:14):
according to Vegas, will be the Chiefs and the Lions
meeting in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yes, Paul, So as of today, Vegas likes the Eagles
more than the Lions.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
They no, No, they have the Lions against the Chiefs. Oh,
and then that's their Chiefs against Yeah, they have the
Chiefs against the Eagles, got it, And then they had
the raven No, they really like the Lions because they've
got them facing the Chiefs and facing the Ravens and
facing the Bills. So if I'm going to plan this,
(09:46):
the Bills versus the Lions would be where I would go.
Somebody's went in a Super Bowl here? Yeah? Is that
how they sell it? And welcome to the Super Bowl.
Somebody has to when this game these And can you
imagine the pain for one of these fan bases if
(10:08):
Buffalo plays Detroit, which fan base would hurt more if
they lost this super Oh boy, I'm skewing negative eleven
minutes in Dang. I started out great with Strawberry Quick,
then i went to Brady conflict of interest, and now
I'm talking about pain misery for a fan base. Yes, Paul,
(10:30):
I think this is a good question.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And my instant reaction was the Bills would have more pain.
They've been expecting to get a Super Bowl for the
past five years. They finally get there. They had the
zero for four stretch. Lions never even had that stretch,
and then you lose to the team that's never been there.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But considering this is recency bias from you just lost
in dramatic fashion last year, fear of the Lions. So
it's not like the Buffalo Bills back in the nineties
when they're losing Super Bowls. It's this is the Lions
team that's supposed to win the Super Bowl. Are we
they're the favorites?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Are we instituting the pain meter as of today?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Sure? Yeah, Seaton, what's the pole question?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Do we want to start out with which fan base
would suffer more? In a No, I can't do that.
I can't do that today because that's what we're doing
By the way, if you're going to be in New
Orleans for the Super Bowl February fifth, at seven pm
local time, I'll be at Tippatina's with Dan Levittard. It's
(11:36):
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We still have some tickets, not a lot left, but
information on the tickets can be found at Danpatrick dot
com and across our social media platforms. Is that the
pole question we're going with seedon.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
It's definitely one of them.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Wow, that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Which fan base would suffer more? Or if they lost
to the Super Bowl? Buffalo Bill's Detroit lyons that is
a lot of fun. We could also put up there.
Tom Brady being an NFL broadcaster and owner is a
massive conflict of interest or no big deal?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, let's go round the room here, because I want
to be fair to the topic here, Todd, do you
think it's a conflict of interest that Brady is a
minority owner while calling games?
Speaker 6 (12:26):
I think it's a conflict of interest, But if the
phrase is massive conflict of interest, I would lean the
other way.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I think it's a conflict of interest.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I don't think it's a massive conflict.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
In Okay, Seaton, Uh okay, maybe we'll take out massive.
Then I would say it is a massive conflict of interest. Okay,
all right then, especially more like the more that it's
not exactly a new story, but the more that it
sits with me, and the more that everybody's just kicking
around head coaching candidates and all this stuff, and you're like,
(12:54):
you got this dude doing kate.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
This is crazy.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
How in the world could you allow that to happen?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Conflict of interest?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
As much as I love minority owner in the NFL,
no conflict of interest.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, it is oh, okay, okay, Paully conflict of interest.
It's the definition of conflict of interest. It's direct. It's
not even like a layer removed. And what's worse is
the NFL gave Tom special treatment to make it happen.
They let him become a broadcaster and approved him becoming
an owner, which they did not have to do in
(13:29):
any way.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, it's like I they could have kept him in
the on deck circle before, you know, But I don't
think the NFL wants him to get out of the
broadcasting Booth. I think that they want him there. I
think Fox of course wants him there, and he's going
to be doing the Super Bowl. But as I've said
for the last couple of months, it feels like he's
(13:52):
moving on to something else, and maybe he's won and
done during these games and he gets to do a
Super Bowl. Yes, Paul, it's kind of.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Like Seaton said, almost jokingly about Jerry Jones. Would they
make him a broadcaster? If I were an NBA broadcast team,
I would consider hiring someone like Mark Cuban to be
on my staff. But the conflict would be he owns
the Mavericks and you couldn't. But he's a star, he's
a good guy, he talks well. If I'm a can
the NBA do this? I don't think they could.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Well. I think he's now a minority owner with the Mavericks,
so it would be identical if he was doing games.
I think Mark sold a good portion of the Dallas Mavericks.
I think so.
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Hello friend, how are you hello?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Friend?
Speaker 9 (15:54):
Listen? Forget about five hundred. I'm excited about five oh one.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
All that san far behind me, thankfully. It's been a.
Speaker 9 (16:02):
Dream journey to this point, and they get better every week.
Buffalo hosting Baltimore this week it's five oh one. I
can't wait to get there and I'm as always tickle
to be on with you leading up to it.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
More to gain in your opinion, Josh Allen or Lamar
Jackson in this.
Speaker 9 (16:20):
Game, and you're going to be talking individual accolades here,
and I can tell you that knowing both of them
well enough to know this is all about trying to
get to the Super Bowl for them. So if you
say Josh has more to gain, it's only through the
lens of getting to a super Bowl for him. You
know he's going to be happy with whatever it takes
(16:42):
to get there and try to return that franchise for
the first time in thirty some odd years. But then
you got Lamaro's had his best year ever doing just
jaw dropping things as well. But he wants to get
to a super Bowl. So that's a tough question to
answer because they both feel like this is the year.
And I could give you a pretty compelling argument why
(17:04):
I think either one of them are very capable of
winning the Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
What was it like? Who was jim nance? Game number
one of the five hundred?
Speaker 9 (17:18):
It was Vinnie Testa Verdi and the Tampa Bay Bucks
at Chris Chandler in the Indianapolis Colts. The great Pat
Hayden was with me on the call. It was October
of nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I was a studio.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
Host for our college football's scoreboard show back in those days,
the Prudential College Football Report. I worked in the studio
in New York on Saturday, parachuted in for the game
on Sunday, doing all my production meetings and all of
that research by phone. So I didn't have the full
treatment as you will on most occasions getting ready for
(17:56):
a game. The night that I flew in after hosting
the stud udio show was a night that Kurt Gibson
hit the home run in the World Series. And remember
you remember the Jack Buck call on the home run.
I can't believe what.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I just saw.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
I can't believe what I just saw. Well, last week
was number five hundred. As I look back at the
scope of it all and the good fortune I've had
to be at so many big games in my career,
I could truly say, just like it was uttered that
very first weekend for me.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I can't believe what I just saw.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
When's the last time you had announcer envy?
Speaker 9 (18:42):
I mean, all the time, you know me well enough
to know that maybe I'll look at things differently. I
admire so many people in our industry. I know it's
a competitive business. I've never felt like it from that viewpoint.
I admire so much many people that I hear and
listen to. I was watching TGL last night and listen
(19:03):
to Matt Barry calling golf.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
I knew he is a golf guy.
Speaker 9 (19:07):
I don't know Matt really barely at all, but I
was admiring what a good job he did.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
You know, it's a tough situation there.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
In a made up environment with golf into a simulator.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
But it's all the time.
Speaker 9 (19:19):
You know, my deep respect for those that came before me,
and you know that like the Elder Statesman for me
now is is Al Michaels. And you know, listening to
Al do a game last week, I just love hearing
his cadence's voice. He's been such a magnificent friend in
my life, someone to look up to and still a
(19:42):
kick every time I talked to him, which is frequently.
But the other thing that was brought to light last
week on the five hundred Dan was that in CBS
has this history with the league where the original network
partner of the NFL, and go back to the fifties,
think Alan Amichi, think of that game and the Giants
(20:05):
in the Baltimore Folts and that was you know, Chris
Shenko back then. But you look at people that actually
called games play by play at CBS at some point
in their careers, includes Al Michaels. Al started at Bob Costas,
was a play by play announcer for a year or
two before he went to DC, but Summer all Lundquist
(20:31):
in Bird the last ten years of his career. Kirk
Goudy ended his career at CBS. This is a dangerous game,
by the way, because you start going through all the
Jim McKay did games for CBS on the NFL. Jack Whittaker,
of course, Ray Scott, Frank Difford. I mean it is
a you know, Dick Stockton. People don't realize he called
(20:55):
the second most NFL games of all time, had a
great Hall of Fame career. Frank Glieber again and named
is forgotten, but he was a long time number two
behind Pat. I felt a little bit of I felt
connected to them. Last week, I was the first to
reach five hundred games play by play. Now it was surprising.
(21:18):
Somebody did the research on it.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Pat.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
Some are all did seven hundred games in his career.
Some of them were at Fox, most of them were
at CBS, but some of them were as an analyst
when we were young kids. So his play by play
numbers at CBS never reached five hundred. And I just
felt honored to take the torch and try to run
with it instead a new mark, and then, you know what,
(21:44):
I had enough of it.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
It's been discussed.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
I'm honored and plattered be given the chance, and I'm
ready to go do five oh one this week, five
oh two next week, and put the fanfare behind me
and go watch some great games.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Is there an emergency? I don't want to jinx. You guys,
an emergency plan if you're not able to do the
game at the Super Bowl, there is.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
I've never seen an emergency plan put in place in
advance of that. But we're worry warts. Those of us
who make are living with our voices. And you know,
when I've worked as many weeks in a year as
I have for thirty seven years, I was working coast
of forty eight weeks a year between college basketball, the NFL,
(22:31):
and golf. So of course you're going to have your
battles along the way with a cold or the flu,
and how are you going to get through it? You know,
you worry yourself about being around anyone who is sick.
My little boy and I have a young son, Jamison.
He had the sniffles last night. He said he had
a sore throat. I mean, it's just I had all
the guardrails up, still trying to interact, put him to bed,
(22:55):
say his prayers, sing a nighttime song, and I thankful
he felt better this morning. But I started to do
the map on it. Two days from now, I could
have whatever he is starting to come down with. And
I'm going to go into this weekend compromise.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
But we we do. We do find a way to
survive it.
Speaker 9 (23:14):
Anything that's you know, short of laryngiatis, we're pretty much
gonna tough it out. I could hear in Troy Aikman's
voice the other night. I could hear something was going
on with him. There was a hoarseness that I know.
He wasn't one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
He's Jim Nantz, the Hall of Famer. He'll be on
the call five oh one. Don't bring up five hundred
to him. It's the Ravens and the Bills. The AFC
Divisional playoffs. Go back to the last time the Super
Bowl was in New Orleans, and when you first got
an inkling that there was an issue with the power outage,
he did, I.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
Gotta give it to your brother. You come up with
the best questions. It's just no one, no one like you.
So obviously I'm not ready for that answer if I
wanted to really give it a thought. But it's just easy, okay.
I was there with Phil Simps. It was like nine
thirty eight to go in the third quarter. The Ravens
had the football at roughly their own forty three yard line,
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and there was a black O handoff and there was
a run up the middle, and all of a sudden,
all my monitors went this black, complete dark, and in
my headset, I can't hear me finishing the call. I
was in the middle of a call, so I just
thought there was a power surge in the booth. But
you know, right after that, of course, in a millisec
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you realize the lights are out, the whole thing's coming down,
the whole broadcast is probably off the air. I mean
it took you had to do some quick processing about
what was happening. So I have no link to the truck.
I can't hear from the producers. I don't have any
visual cues. We're all in the dark, figuratively and literally.
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But my cell phone was work king, So I called
Lance Berrow, our producer in the truck. Now that was
a dumb thing to do, because he was just as
I'm sure it is, more in the center of the
storm than I was. But he didn't pick up. But
I was trying to just hey, what's going on? And
then I thought, let me call Melissa. You guys all
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know Melissa. She's been my chief of staff or a
quarter of a century. And I called her cell phone
and said what in the world is happening right now?
And she explained that we were knocked off the air.
You know, you had all kinds of really not so
good thoughts at that point. This is twenty thirteen. You know,
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you're wondering if is it a terrorist attack? You hate
to even say it, but you don't know what it is.
And as you know, it took thirty five minutes before
everything was restored, and that overshadowed really what was a
compelling game right down to the wire. People forget San
Francisco had four plays inside the ten yard line last
minute to try to win the game, four incompletions, Kaepernick
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on three of them to Michael Crabtree, all defended and incomplete.
It was a game that was in the thirties. It
was a one score game, and no one remembers that.
All they remember is the night the lights went out
in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I also remember Steve Tasker being pressed into service as
sort of the guy on duty. He was like the
night watchman and his microphone was working and he kind
of was hosting the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
We could not find well.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
First off, the studio show is in one of those
collapsible sets that takes four or five minutes to get
it standing, and Jab and all the crew were hurriedly
getting into place. But you were looking for someone to
be able to be on mike and to help carry
the moment. And Phil and I had no line of communication.
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We're still out and Steve, Steve filled in brilliantly.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You got paid for a full game, though, didn't you.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
You know I should go back and look at it.
But can I tell you a secret. Honestly, I would
pay to do the game. That's the dirty little secret.
I can say it now that I've got a long
term contract, and I'm you know what, I've always been
forth right about it.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I would do all of this for free, Romos.
Speaker 9 (27:32):
I mean, as long as I could have a house
and be able to provide for my kids and everything.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
It's never what it's about.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
It's about, well, partly, it's about fulfilling the big part
of the fulfilling the childhood dream to be a voice,
not to be the story, but to be the story
teller and be able to attend these events. And you know,
it's it's all. It's all a gift. It's about legacy too, Dan.
That's why when I look at happening sometimes in sport.
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Let's take what's going on in golf, and some have
left the PGA tour. I'm not going to get deeply
into all of that, but you have to make a
legacy decision at some point. You know, you've been blessed
enough to be given the chance, and you probably made
a few bucks along the way.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
What is it really about for you? Well, it's about
being able to say that you've lived out your dream
and this is what you did. It's about legacy, and
that's how I feel about it now that I'm.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
Reaching these certain milestones. They come a little bit more
frequently with long devity, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
These days.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Let's go to Tony Romo get his thoughts. Tony Jim
says that he would work for free. How about you,
would you work for free?
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Well, I mean, Tony, I've certainly made enough money all
this time away. Yeah, I think I can provide for
myself in about thirty seven thousand other families. Yeah, yeah,
I think I would.
Speaker 9 (29:02):
Okay, it's great to get Tony engaged in the show
right now.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
He's my guy. I love it.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Tell Tony now, if Romo can't do it, Seaton, I
think could be his understudy.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
I don't know what am I gonna do? You want
to run it here, you want to what would you
do to.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Dayton? Why don't you make way up to uh? In
the bullpen by guy?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I'd love it. I'd love it.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
If you look back, though, can you extract one moment
that that would stand alone over everything else that you've done.
When you speak a legacy, one moment, whether it's football, basketball,
or Dolph.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
That's when you're talking about one event, one game call,
or one thing that I had. Well, the most special
thing of all will always be April twelfth, nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Nothing had ever topped that for me. Well, I get
there is one thing.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
I don't get to that maybe in a second here,
But that was when my old dorm suitet mate at
the University of Houston Bread Couples, won the Masters.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
We used to have.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
These crazy dreams that one day he was going to
win the Masters, that that was all about legacy for him,
that was his life goal. And of course by this time,
first day I show up on campus, I make the
declaration that one day I want to work for CBS,
Like that's going to happen. Fortunately, it did, and blessedly
it did for me. But his dream was to win
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the Masters. My dream was to one day broadcast the Masters,
and I also wanted the broadcasts for CBS because I
love the way they presented the NFL raised on a
heavy diet of let's say, summer all in Brookshire, summer
all in Madden. So in our dorm room, you know
the story Dan, not every day, but on a couple
of occasions, along with Blaine McCallister, our great roommate, who
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had a spectacular career, won five times on the tour himself,
we used to practice the green Jackets ceremony, just kids
make believe, dreaming, just imagining something, opening up your mind,
what that moment could be like. And I'm sitting there
in a dorm room, room one oh one, Tom Hall Taub.
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It's now been raised, but there we are. Fred's sitting
across from me, and we're doing an imaginary interview. He's
just won the Masters, and I'm hosting the presentation. So
in nineteen ninety two, that actually happened, except we weren't
in dorm room. We were in Butler Cabin and the
world was watching. So how do you beat that? There's
only one way that that could ever be better for me,
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and that is that's when my son Jamison wins the
Masters and he comes in the Butler cabin and I
say hello son and goodbye friends.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
That will be it. That's the last show.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Not to play, to walk off on them.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
But I mean, that's how outrageous it would have to
be to better that moment for me. But other than that, listen,
last year's Super Bowl, you know, went three second shy
of five full quarters. The most watched television show in
the history of American television by a lot, not by
like one percent, by twelve percent.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Two hundred and three million Americans watched it one time.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
Normally I don't even care about that, But now that
we were walking around with the belt, the championship belt,
I'm making believe here now it was a great game
the broadcast. Thankfully for our production team, it won the Emmy.
So proud of the thousand people that presented that that
day and in all those years of doing the NCAA Tournament,
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there are just too many to isolate. And back at
that little place in Augusta, Georgia, Tiger nineteen ninety seven,
a win for the ages pass forward to twenty nineteen.
This scene plays out again, the return to glory, and
Tiger is walking off the green and he's hugging Charlie,
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his son. It's a perfect and perfect symmetry with the
scene we had seen twenty two years before, when Tiger
walked off the green breaking all the records in the
history of augusta youngest champion, largest margin of victory, the
seventy two hole scoring record, the youngest ever. And there
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was Earl, his dad. If you GPSD it, I would
say that it happened on the exact same spot Earl
hug Tiger. Twenty two years later, Tiger hugs Charlie. It
went from a father to a son, and now the
son's the father and he's having the same moment with
his son. If you're in the storytelling business, it's about
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as rich as it gets, about as high drama as
it gets. You know, thankfully we're on camera. As you know,
there are shedding a few silent tears along the way.
Is all that's happening. If you have a heartbeat, you
realize the gravity.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Of that moment.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Great to reminisce.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
I love reminiscing with you. You know I'm wearing something here.
I just I know they've got a lot going on
out there. But this is Bellair Country Club's shields, okay,
and Owl's a part of that. I've been fortunate to
be a part of that club for a long time
as a member.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
We have a lot.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
Of our families out there that have lost their homes.
It's it's a lot. It's there are many many unfortunately
lived in the Palisades and what's going on in LA.
I don't want the story to just we get numb
to things like this. These are families, these are people,
lives were but the twenty six is the.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Death toll now.
Speaker 9 (34:55):
And I'm just as I said signing off on Sunday
from Buffalo after the Buffalo Denver game, LA, We're thinking
of you, we're praying for you, and really tough times.
So we're out here talking fun and games. That's real life.
And people's whole entire lives have been uprooted life savings,
you know, starting from scratch in the middle of their
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lives and maybe later in their business careers whatever.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
It's all gone.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
And it's not just because it's three days and retired
to the story. Let's move on to something else. It's
real and I'm just thinking of all my families out
there that I know, many of whom you would know, Dan,
and it's just indescribable.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Have fun this weekend. Thanks for joining us. As always,
I'm coming to see you the summer. By the way,
I'm on your door up there. Hello.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Okay, I know where you are.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Now do you want to come in for a meet Friday.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Into that studio right there?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Well, this is Maine, now that's what.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I'm talking about. I'm going to make it this summer.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Okay, Well it's it's not Butler's cabin, it's Danny's cabin.
But we'd love to have you. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I don't need to be on the air. If you
need an emergency, you talk about emergency fill in. If
maybe a guest doesn't show up, I'll pop on for
five minutes. But I'd like to see the studio.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
But better than that, i'd like to go out and
have a lunch with you afterwards, so I'll find you.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Sounds great.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Thank you, Thanks, Dan, all the best.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
That's Jim NaN's Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
So we just played in or out as we welcome
in Robert Griffin Junior the third to play in or Out.
You can check out out of Pocket with RG three
on YouTube wherever you get your podcast. Good to talk
to you again. All right, are you in or out?
Sam Donald staying with the Vikings?
Speaker 10 (37:10):
Oh yeah, I mean I'm out. I'm out on that
JJ McCarthy. You know, I you know, if people tend
to forget about JJ, but I was a huge JJ
guy coming out. I know why NFL coaches love him.
He can make the practical plays. He's not a stat merchant,
he's not worried about those types of things. But he
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can also make the off schedule play and has the
athleticism and mobility that you look for. Sam Donald, in
my opinion, I don't think that his fall off was
as big dan as people are making it out to be.
I think the eighteen weeks of the season or the
seventeen weeks of the.
Speaker 11 (37:47):
Season that he played well still are gonna, you know,
help him in free agency.
Speaker 10 (37:53):
But I do not think that he'll be back with Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Are you in or out that the Cowboys Dun Sanders
story is a real story.
Speaker 11 (38:05):
I'm in with an asterisk.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
I've talked to Dion and I knew this months ago
that the only way he'll go to the NFL is
if he has an opportunity to coach his sons, and
he's been very adamant about that recently. It wasn't my
information to share at the time, but I don't think
he's gonna go to the NFL just to be an
NFL coach, and he doesn't want to chase after his sons.
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He's set them up to be in a position where
they can be highly drafted. If you're Shader and Shallah
will have a chance to go play in the NFL
as well.
Speaker 11 (38:37):
But I'm in.
Speaker 10 (38:38):
I think he's the best option and Dan I got
to say, I was the first person to say it
when it wasn't popular last year on the SETTM on
a Night Countdown.
Speaker 11 (38:46):
So I'm in on that.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I've been saying all along that I thought that there
was something up with him with the Raiders. If they
were going to get the number one pick and Dion
could have gone there and taken his son number one,
could you have seen that scenario because I thought that
since Tom got in there as the part time owner,
minority owner.
Speaker 10 (39:07):
Yeah, I thought for sure, And I know that Dion,
you know, he's very supportive of other coaches, and this
is something that I'm not sure people really pay attention
to a ton where it was Kenny Dillingham at Arizona State,
where there's Marcus Freeman, where there's Mike Vick in his
situation Inofolk State. He's very supportive coach of other coaches,
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and he didn't want to undercut Antonio Pierce. So I
remember they were at that banquet a few weeks ago
when Peerce was the coach, and he was like, hey
draft my son blah blah blah, because he wants his
son to be in a situation that, you know, Tom
Brady being there have an influence mentoring Shador would be great.
Speaker 11 (39:43):
So I was in on that as well.
Speaker 10 (39:45):
I didn't think that Dallas was the only place that
Dion could go and be a head coach in the NFL,
but I did think that before this season they should
have fired Mike McCarthy and hired Dion to bring an
identity and a culture there to Dallas that he's brought
to it with him to Jackson State and now also
to Colorado.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
All Right, are you in or out Shadore pulling in
Eli Manning Tennessee or Cleveland? Where to draft him? Man?
Speaker 11 (40:21):
I think I'd be in.
Speaker 10 (40:22):
I'd be in because at the end of the day,
I'm a player empowerment guy.
Speaker 11 (40:29):
And it's funny.
Speaker 10 (40:30):
Because last year I said that Caleb william should have
pulled an Ali Manning on the Chicago Bears, and a
lot of people got upset with me. But Dan, I
don't know if you noticed, I ended up being right
about that. And the bottom line is structure matters, who
the coach is matters, who you have around you matters.
And if Shadur, because he's a grown man, feels that
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Tennessee or Cleveland are not the right place for him,
then that's his decision to make. I, for one, believe
that they're not.
Speaker 11 (40:56):
The right place for him, So I'd be in on that.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Who more to gain from a win this weekend in
Buffalo with Josh Allen Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 10 (41:06):
I think Lamar Jackson has more to gain if you
look at their playoff numbers. Josh Allen has a quarterback
rating over one hundred, and his krypt Knit has really
been Patrick Mahomes and the knsas City chiefs Lamar Krypton
Knight has been his second playoff game and just his
success in the playoffs altogether.
Speaker 11 (41:24):
So I think if Lamar.
Speaker 10 (41:25):
Loses, you will see or should I say the Baltimore
Ravens lose, because quarterbacks don't win lose games. But if
the Ravens lose, you'll see a lot of people come
out and destroy and destroyer Lamar Jackson. And in this case,
I would I would have to agree that it's warranted.
This is an MVP showdown. And then I wish I
wish the trophy was on the line in this game
because that would be just add so much more intrigue
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to it. But I do think Lamar has more to lose.
But I don't think the game comes down to Lamar Josh.
I think it comes down to Derreck Henry and James Cook.
And that's I believe that's the matchup between those two
in the offense, two lines up front will determine who
wins the game.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Talking to r G three, fill in the blank, Justin
Herbert is blank.
Speaker 10 (42:08):
Justin Herbert is Philip Rivers. That's what he is right now,
and Philip Rivers it is a compliment. Dan, would you
would you love to have the career that Philip Rivers had?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Compared to who?
Speaker 10 (42:25):
I'm asking you just as a as a fan, as
a guy who's covered the game, would you love to
have the career that Philip Rivers had?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I would take Joe Flacco's over Philip Rivers, but should
not answer the question. Would you I think that most
I would take Philip Rivers career?
Speaker 11 (42:44):
Yes, I think most fans would would take Philip Rivers career.
Speaker 10 (42:46):
So when you say is it a compliment, I'm saying
it just depends on who you what you're how you're
looking at this. Is it a compliment to or is
it would you rather have Philip rivers career.
Speaker 11 (42:56):
Or Peyton Manning's career? Paid Manning?
Speaker 10 (43:00):
So for Justin Herbert, he has to decide at some
point it can't be everybody else's issue anymore. He's had
three head coaches and four offensive coordinators. Every single coach
he's had has been blamed for his lack of success.
In the playoffs, he throws four interceptions, not every single
one of them were on him. I'm not going to
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go so far as to say that he is not
a good quarterback, because he is a good quarterback, but
at some point when it's nut cutting time, he has
to step up in the playoffs, and it can't be well,
it was this coach's fault or that coordinator didn't get
it done. And now I'm hearing people talk about Greg
Roman again and how Greg.
Speaker 11 (43:37):
Roman is the issue. He didn't do this, he didn't
do that.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
And I just looked at him and say, Herbert is
not blaming the media is making excuses for Justin Herbert.
Speaker 11 (43:51):
And I agree that.
Speaker 10 (43:52):
I want to be very clear there, Justin Herbert took
full accountability and responsibility after the game for how he played.
This is not a Justin Herbert things. It's more of
a US thing. Right in the media, We're all in
this together. We got to be able to hold him
accountable to the same lengths that we hold Lamar Jackson,
Dak Prescott or even Peyton Manning when he was early
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in his career didn't have a ton of playoff success.
Herbert is now in that realm where he's gonna make
a decision if is he gonna be Philip rivers or
is he gonna be able to turn the corner and
be a Peyton Manning type.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
But I think when you lumped him in with Dak
Prescott and Lamar Jackson, to me, they shouldn't be lumped
in because Dak is the quarterback of the Cowboys. Yes,
always going to get more credit and more blame always.
Lamar's a two time MVP and hasn't done anything in
the postseason. Justin Herbert, I think is propped up by
a portion of the media that wants him to be
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a great quarterback. He's not a great quarterback. Lamar's won
two MVPs. He has got to perform in the postseason.
That's what we expect that MVPs. And Dak you know,
you walk into that position and you know you're going
to get criticized. And Dak has not really done much.
And now he's thirty two coming off hamstring surgery and
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so he can't he's injury prone, in immobile. And now
whoever takes over the Cowboys inherits that that's that's not
a good recipe there.
Speaker 10 (45:20):
Yeah, And you're talking about my tweet from a couple
of days ago when the when the Chargers lost. And
the reason I I, Mike and Dave you know Anita
wedding date, lumped them all in together is because, yes,
I can understand the Lamar Jackson piece.
Speaker 11 (45:35):
Two. Yeah, you like that movie reference. It's a great movie.
I don't know why people don't like it.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
It's a great movie.
Speaker 10 (45:40):
I understand the Lamar Jackson piece, the two time MVP.
But now we're just creating these subcategories for well, we're
gonna criticize this guy, but not this guy. Lamar's success
in the playoffs or lack thereof, or of how he's played,
he still made it to an AFC Championship game. Justin
Herbert hasn't even sniffed that. So when you look at
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Dak Prescott and what he's been able to do, Yeah,
as the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, that's awesome. But
I'm not gonna subdivide that and say I'm gonna give
Dak more criticism just.
Speaker 11 (46:11):
Because he's a quarterback of the Cowboys.
Speaker 10 (46:13):
I'm gonna give Lamar more criticism despite the fact that
he's done more than almost every quarterback in his draft
class when it comes to his success on the field.
Justin Herbert has unbelievable stats. You probably know all of
the NFL records that he's broken, from passing yards to
passing touchdowns to wins and everything in between. I do
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think he is a great quarterback. The question is is
he a clutch quarterback when it matters? And right now
he hasn't been. And for that, to me, it's you
either give everybody grace and you say, hey, it took
Steve Young seven eight years to figure it out, it
took Manning eight nine years to figure it out, or
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you make sure you criticize them all at the same level,
because quarterbacks always get the most praise and they always
get the more criticism, right, more praise than they deserve,
more criticism they deserved. We can't create these subcategories and say,
all right, well, we're not gonna go after Justin Herbert
just because he's not the quarterback of the Cowboys and
he's not a two time MVP.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
But who's not going after him?
Speaker 10 (47:16):
Do you think Justin Herbert gets the same amount of
criticism that Lamar Jackson does or Dak Prescott, or.
Speaker 11 (47:21):
To a tongue of.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Lamar is a two time MVP.
Speaker 11 (47:25):
What about to a tongue of a LA. Let's take
let's take Lamar out of it. Do you think do
you think Justin Herbert gets the same criticism as to
a tongue of by law?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Tua gets a whole passed because of his health.
Speaker 11 (47:36):
Tua does not get a hall passed that they had
a whole good can't makes right?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
He Do you think that he's a great quarterback?
Speaker 11 (47:49):
I do, and I think he's the perfect quarterback for
Mike McDaniels offense.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Why would Tyreek wan out if you've got this great
quarterback there?
Speaker 10 (47:58):
Well, Tyreek probably one out because Tyreek wants to win
Super Bowls and.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
You can't do that with Tua.
Speaker 11 (48:05):
I think you can. But Tua was banged up.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
This year and two is gonna be banged up. We
hold our breath. I think that we we hold our
breath with him. I don't think people are critical of him.
I don't really nowhere near no, nowhere near the other quarterback. No,
we got a whole pass. He got a whole pass
because of his health. What were his numbers this year?
What did he do this year? What did the Dolphins
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do this year?
Speaker 10 (48:31):
Well, he showed that he's the he's the MVP of
the Dolphins because when he was out they couldn't sniff
a win. But then when he came back, he actually
helped them get back into playoff contention and have a
chance at the end of the season to make the
actual playoffs.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
So so if they said you're gonna have to of
moving forward or Justin Herbert, who would take?
Speaker 11 (48:51):
Yeah? I hate that question, Dan.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Dammit, you set it up.
Speaker 11 (48:58):
I didn't set it up. You set it up. You're
just Dolphins ID I did bring in to her I
did if I had, if I had.
Speaker 10 (49:07):
If I had to pick, if I had to pick,
I'm I'm taking I'm taking to a talking about law.
Speaker 11 (49:11):
I am I'm taking to over Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
I don't you don't believe that?
Speaker 4 (49:16):
You do?
Speaker 9 (49:17):
Believe?
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Not believe. Let's go around the room. Who believes that
r G three is telling me the truth? Todd? Do
you think he's telling the truth?
Speaker 5 (49:24):
I think he is.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Oh, suck up appreciation, Tod. My god, see you think
RG three is telling me the truth? I do? I
believe he's telling you the truth? Yes, oh my god.
Speaker 10 (49:37):
Now the question, Dan, the better question is would they
take to over Justin? Because I don't think a lot
of people would I think. I think from watching the
tape and watching the two guys play, if health is
not an issue, because health is an issue for both
of them, Let's be honest, well.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Really an issue for two. It's really an issue for two.
Speaker 10 (49:58):
If you could guarantee that Tua never gets another concussion,
I'm taking to Yeah, but I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
That's part of what you take. Paulie, you want to
call out RG three.
Speaker 5 (50:07):
Yeah, Robert was lying to you. His voice went up
three octaves. I believe it. I believe it.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, Paulie used to work for the FBI
giving light detector tests. Yeah, he's calling you out before
I let you go. Whenever I read we not whenever,
but a lot of times I'll read about Jaden Daniels
and then there'll be the cautionary tale where they bring
up you that you know you had this meteoric rise,
(50:32):
you were Jaden Daniels before him. But is it fair
to bring you up? Is it cautionary tale? Yes, playing
for the same franchise of getting hurt or putting yourself
at risk with the way you play.
Speaker 10 (50:45):
No, I don't think it's fair at all. I don't
think it's fair to Jayden. I don't think it's fair
to the commander's organization because there's this thing that I
said in the off season. I got much maligned for
about the Chicago Bears and how their structure wasn't conducive
to a young quarterback being successful, and the caveat to that,
(51:06):
or should I say the example off of that, was
how well Washington was built. New head coach, new GM,
new ownership, new offensive coordinator that knew how to utilize
a mobile, duel threat, triple threat quarterback like Jayden Daniels,
and veteran leadership on the team, bringing in Bobby Wagner,
having Austin Eckler in the running back room, Brian Robinson
(51:28):
being a bulldozing ram.
Speaker 11 (51:29):
Having Scary Terry at wide receiver. All of those.
Speaker 10 (51:33):
Things made Washington's situation so much better. And when you
look at my situation when I came out as a rookie,
I was with an owner in Dan Snyder and a
head coach and Mike Shanahan who were feuding.
Speaker 11 (51:48):
I did not know that at the time.
Speaker 10 (51:50):
I was just a young twenty two year old kid,
but there was not the uniformity throughout the organization that
Washington has now. And that's why I always say organizations
and NFL teams screw up more young quarterbacks than they.
Speaker 11 (52:04):
Actually helped succeed.
Speaker 10 (52:06):
But she got to hit it at the right time,
and right now, Jayden Daniels in Washington hit it at
the exact right time. They take care of him. They've
removed the dark cloud from the organization. Everyone style though, Roberts, No,
that's what I feel. I'm with you, But the style
that his style of play and where you play and
who you're playing with all matters. That's what I'm trying
(52:28):
to say. Listen, I can't go back and have Heloly
Nada not hit me in my knee against the Baltimore Ravens.
I can't do that. There's no way for me to
do that. I think you could have. I mean, he couldn't.
He could have not hit me and.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
The way that he did.
Speaker 10 (52:43):
But that's a conversation for another time, Okay, and I
could and I and Dan I could have done a
much better job in my career of protecting myself.
Speaker 11 (52:50):
I think that's very well documented.
Speaker 10 (52:51):
I think what you'll see from Jadon Daniels if you
watch the tape is that he has done a much
better job protecting himself, getting down, sliding, avoiding some of
those That the.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Point I wanted, that's I wanted to make. I didn't
think it was fair to keep bringing you into this
because I do think he runs differently. He is protecting himself.
There were times when you took on contact. But I'm
watching Jaydan Daniels not going well, when's he gonna be
RG three? Because I think you guys, while having similar traits,
(53:21):
you're different quarterbacks and it's a different era, it's a
different organization. So that's the only reason when I brought
that up.
Speaker 10 (53:27):
By no, no, I, I I not rupt, Sorry, Bed,
I'm saying that his style of play and how.
Speaker 11 (53:37):
He's utilized matters. Okay, this is this is about Jayden
and Daniels.
Speaker 10 (53:43):
This is not about me, but all of those factors
that went into why where I was playing and what
was going on and.
Speaker 11 (53:48):
How I was utilized matter.
Speaker 10 (53:51):
Cliff Kingsbury is utilizing Jayden and Daniels better than I
was utilized when I was a young quarterback, and I
think that matters, and how they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
And the field's in better shape for chating Davis. That's
a good one.
Speaker 11 (54:03):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
He's r G three. Check out his podcast out of
Pocket with a with r G three on YouTube, wherever
you get your podcast. Great to catch up with you.
Speaker 11 (54:13):
Thanks, appreciate your brother, God bless thank you man.
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