February 12, 2025 • 42 mins
Vincent Goodwill discusses Kevin Durant's legacy in the NBA and whether or not Jimmy Butler is the missing piece for the Warriors. Eagles CB Cooper DeJean breaks down his pick-six in the Super Bowl and explains how Philly's game plan was focused on zone coverage and disrupting timing. And Nick Wright discusses the Chiefs' shocking Super Bowl loss and shares a story about getting questioned by Jalen Hurts' mother the night before the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Vincent Goodwill has all the answers. Yea Hu's Sports senior,
NBA writer and host of The Good Word podcast. Is
it a slight to say Kevin Durant is one of
the greatest scorers of all time?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
It's a got a slight, Dan, It's just limiting, you
know what I mean. Like when you say someone's a
great scorer, you're saying that's the only thing that they're
great at. Like when I say Carmelo Anthony is a
great score, that's like the first thing that you think of.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
And this if you.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Take a while before you go to maybe the other
things of this game. And I'm not insulting Carmelo in
any way, but you think of Carmelo as the first,
as a great score first and foremost you think of
kad Or. You should think of kat as one of
the greatest all around players this league has ever seen. Unfortunately,
in the era of Lebron James and Stephen Curry, you
tend to limit him or discuss him in other ways
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a lot of times that have nothing.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
To do with basketball.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, but I think with Steph Curry, he's the greatest
shooter of all time. We talk about anything else with him. Now,
granted that's a great compliment, but if I said Steph
Curry one of the greatest scorers of all time, that
would be accurate because he's not known for anything else
other than being the greatest shooter in the history of
the game.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I agree, And it's weird.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
You know what's funny is because we don't think about
shooters being great players.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
In that way.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
When you think maybe aside from Larry Bird, but when
you thought of great shooters, you think of guys that
have like a specialized skill like a Dale Ellis or
someone like that that's just a three point shooter only
almost like a field goal kicker in a way in football.
But Steph has sort of revolutionized it in a way
that he is a great scorer and he is a
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great shooter, the great shooter we've ever seen, but there's
so many other different parts and different facets to his game.
I think with someone like Kadie, the conversation is so
convoluted and a lot of times unfair when it comes
to Kevin Durant that we're always looking for the slight
when someone calls him a great God saying, wait a minute,
what about the other parts of this game you don't like?
For me, Dan, I thought Kevin Durant became the league's
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best player in twenty fourteen when he became the best
defensive player between himself and Lebron James. Except we never
thought about Kevin Durant in that way. We short ourselves
and we short him in the way that we discuss him.
And now that he's on the back end of his career,
now we're starting to hopefully acknowledge and see all the
great parts of this game.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Okay, how about we look at this down the road
when their careers are over with who will be recognized
as a better player, Steph Curry or Kevin Durant.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
That's an excellent, excellent question, man.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I think Steph Curry won that championship in twenty twenty
two put him over the top of Kevin Durant. I think,
unfortunately this Rings culture. I don't subscribe to Rings culture
in that sort of direct way, but I do think
that STEP's ability to lead a franchise, to stay with
a franchise, to stick it out with a franchise, compared
to who's been a little bit more mercenary. That's going
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to be something that people look at as a demerit.
I think it's a basketball player Kevin Durant because of
what he does defensively, he's a better all around player
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Let's look at the post trade deadline, Jimmy Butler's contribution
impact at Golden State and Lucas with the Lakers. Which
team do you think goes further due to these two editions.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I think Jimmy Butler makes a bigger impact with the
Golden State Warriors, but that's because the Golden State Warriors
have such a long way to go relative to the Lakers.
Like the Lakers were on a roll up until this trade,
and part of that has been the schedule lighting up
and Lebron coming off of his sabbatical, if that's what
we're going.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
To call it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
He's coming back from that with both freshet of legs
and everything else. I think Luca is a little bit
more duplication. He just does it at a higher level
and he probably has the stamina to do it for
longer stretches of time than Lebron does at this stage
of his career. But I don't see the Lakers having
enough actual functional size and defense on the back line
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to make a real impact in the playoffs. I know
that they've won a lot of games, and I think
they're you know, a game and a half and the
lost cosum of being like third in the West or
second in the West or whatever it is. But I
still think that size gets it done when you're talking
about playing a full seven game series. Now, when I
look at Golden State, they're used to playing small and
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you have someone in Draymond Green on the back line.
Steph Curry has not played with a guy who can
create his own shot at.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
An elite level.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Stency's played with Kevin Durant and that was in twenty nineteen,
was the last year those guys played together. I'm very
curious to see how those two guys mesh, you know,
Katie and Katie, Jimmy going to the bucket and being
able to be passed first and Steph being able to
roam around on the perimeter having someone.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Create shots for him. That could be scary.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Dan Patrick good Will y'allho's sports senior NBA writer, host
of The Good Word podcast. You know a story that's
kind of gone under the radar, you know, Utah's tanking,
Washington's tanking.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Are the Pelicans tanking? Are they just bad?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
They're confident, they're not trying to be bad. Man.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Some look, when you're in the luxury tax, you ain't
in a luxury tax because you're trying to tank. This
is not a stealth tank job on the Pelicans part. Like, yeah,
they traded Brandon Ingram, but they were expecting Zion Willims.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And to be good this year.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
They acquired the john Ty Murray because they wanted to
make a run, like on December one of last season,
not December first of this season. They were the best
team in the Western Conference and they were looking at
it saying, if we get healthy, if we stay healthy,
we're going to be able to make some real noise
because of the youth and the defense and some of
the athleticism that we have. It just hasn't worked and
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they're bad. And unfortunately for New Wallan, I feel like
they're going to have to part ways with Zion Williams
and after the season. And it's not to say that
Zion can't turn it around. It's just that it feels
like that relationship is going sour and those sides cannot
go on. So I don't think this is by design.
They were not intending to be bad. David Griffin thought
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he was going to put together a team that was
going to compete in the Western Conference this year.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So the coach didn't talk. After the last game, the
fans booed the new team governor, the former owner, told
fans to shut the bleep up. Fans got tossed for
signs saying fire Nico, and the team lost to Sacramento.
Other than that, it seems like, as Tim Klashaw has
tweeted out, everything's going well in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Everything's going swimmingly there.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Look, then we can all adjudicate the Luka Donci's trade, right,
And I'm not one of those people that cause it
the worst trade of all time, Like when they say
they traded for ad I think there are people are
trying to say that they traded for Antonio Davis in
nineteen ninety four, so that like Anthony Betas is one
of the top ten players in basketball. But I think
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that it's been a stroke of bad luck for a
franchise that is so connected to Luke. They're more connected
to Luka Doncic than they were to the actual Dallas Mavericks,
and that's something that you generally dan incorporate with losers.
Like I'm gonna tell you a quick story. I was
a fan of the Detroit Lions, and then July twenty seventh,
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nineteen ninety nine happened, and I was no longer a
fan of the Detroit Lions and I have not gone
back since. Why because they were losers. And then when
they made Barry Sanders quit, I quit them. Dallas has
won a championship and they went to the finals. Those
fans should not be bailing, even though I understand their
anger and frustration, but this is a bit shocking the
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reaction from everyone.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Death that's Niel Henderson. That's a bit low to me.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
If you gave Nico a do over a mulligan right
now today.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I think, given the fact that we don't know the
extent of Anthony Davis's injury, this core muscle injury that
he has, you might give him a mull again based
off of that, not necessarily based off of the reaction.
Usually you can ride off the reaction, and I think
he was confident enough to say we got some bigs
here that can really make some things happen.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
In the Western Conference.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
If we get them all healthy and upright, I don't
think I don't think people as strong minded as Nico
Harrison are going to be swayed that quickly because of
the reaction.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
He could be swayed because of.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Anthony Davis's health, not because everybody is so heartbroken and
betrayed over Lukadomcic.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Always great to talk to you, Vincent. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Next time, I'll be on video.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Oh yeah, that's what our audience wants. The ladies love that.
The ladies want that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Don't get me in trouble man.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Oh okay. I was gonna say, Vincent Goodwill hunting, but
you're not. You're in love right.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I'm the love doctor. No Moore just gonna say that,
I'm the love doctor.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
No Moore.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Thank you, Vincent.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Vincent Goodwill, Yahoo's sports senior NBA writer, host of The
Good Word podcast.
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Speaker 2 (10:26):
I don't know what he does for his twenty third birthday,
but his twenty second birthday was pretty cool. Cooper de Jean,
the Eagles defensive back, had to pick six as the
Eagles win the Super Bowl, they got the parade coming
up on Friday. How much sleep since Sunday?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Coop?
Speaker 7 (10:42):
Not a whole lot, Not a whole lot.
Speaker 9 (10:44):
I've been trying to catch up a little bit, but
I've gotten I've gotten very little sleep these past few days.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
How was the after party?
Speaker 7 (10:52):
It was awesome? It was awesome. It's a lot better
when you win.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Who is who is the MVP of the after party?
Speaker 7 (11:04):
That's a good question.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
There was a there's quite a few guys that were
having to having good time at the after party.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Well, you're just old enough to drink now now that
you're twenty two, So did you Did you celebrate as
well with these guys?
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Of course, of course I celebrate.
Speaker 9 (11:21):
I had to had to celebrate winning a world championship
and on my birthday, so I had to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
The defensive game plan of not blitzing. Was that discussed
prior to the game, that that was going to be
the game plan? That nobody is going after mahomes other
than your front four?
Speaker 9 (11:40):
Yeah, I mean I think that's that's the way we
practiced all week. It's just to play our coverage like
we like we've done all year. Obviously we've blitz a
little bit this year, but I think, you know, we
we work really well together in the back end, the
way we plays on coverage and the way we match routes,
and you know, it's it makes it easy on on
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the back end when you know you got a D
line up front that's that gets pressure without without having
to you know, plits the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
What was your job? What was your role in the
Super Bowl?
Speaker 9 (12:14):
I mean, just to disrupt timing and you know, packing
zones and make create tight windows for the quarterback, you know,
disrupt timing from the receivers getting off the getting off
the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
You know, try to give our D line as much.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
Time to get to the quarterback, you know, and then
and then packing those zones, you know, and switch up
the picture on the quarterback and you know, make him
have to make him have to play quarterback.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
What did you show my homes or that maybe he
didn't see on your pick six?
Speaker 9 (12:49):
Yeah, I think we were. We were playing uh zone
coverage and you know the way we played it, it
was I was kind of playing off Zach in front
of me, and he actually he actually ran to the flat,
which was my responsibility, and it allowed me to fall
back inside. But I think, I think that's just how
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it's been all year, just us playing off of each other.
And I saw him go out there to the flat,
and I was able to fall back inside and got
to be a free player and just read the quarterback
and able to pick the ball off.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
When did you start thinking end zone?
Speaker 9 (13:25):
Right when I caught the ball. Every time I touched
the ball, I want to score, you know. It's It's
been that way since as long as I remember playing football.
So but luckily I got some got some blocks out
there from the big guys up up front.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Threw me some blocks and found my way in to
the end zone.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Did you keep the ball?
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Of course, of course I kept. I had to keep.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Sometimes you get too excited and you might, you know,
be spiking it or something and then teammate has to
grab it or something. But look, this isn't normal like
your age, Super Bowl going against Mahomes pick six. I mean,
how do you how do you process that of where
you were, where you were drafted and uh, here you are.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Yeah, it's I mean, I don't think I processed it yet.
Speaker 9 (14:16):
Yeah, three and a half years ago, I was in
high school and I'm playing on on the biggest stage
in football in the super Bowl, And I think it's
just a lot of credit to the people who've helped
me along along the way.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You didn't have a Mahomes poster on your wall growing up,
did you?
Speaker 7 (14:32):
No? I didn't. I didn't. I did watch him.
Speaker 9 (14:35):
You haven't haven't played quarterback, you know, I did watch
him quite a bit growing up.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
But did you talk to him at all? Have you
talked to Mahomes after the game?
Speaker 7 (14:46):
I have No, I haven't, I have it. I'm not sure. Yeah,
I haven't talked to him.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And I wouldn't ask him to sign the football. I'd
wait a little while before you do something like that.
Me into halftime, what was it like.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Yeah, I mean a lot of a lot of focus.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
I think, you know, I think everybody understood that the
game wasn't over because you know, we understood who you
know who, who they were on.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
On that side.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
You know their their offense and what they're capable of,
their quarterback, their offense, how explosive it is, and you know,
so we knew, we knew it wasn't finished you at halftime,
and you know we had to you know, we had
to go out there and you know put it away
in that second half.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
When did you know the game was over?
Speaker 9 (15:35):
That's I mean, I don't know if I really crossed
my mind until it was later in that in that
fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Like thirty four to nothing. I think you feel pretty safe,
don't you.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
That Then I think we gave up.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
We give up a touchdown, So, I mean I was,
I was still a little a little nervous. I didn't
want to, you know, say it was over yet, but
there's there was definitely a lot of a lot of
confidence when we got when we went up thirty four.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, I think that you guys should put the score
forty to six on your ring because those last two
touchdowns they really don't count. I mean, it was an
incredible defensive performance, but you gave up a couple of
garbage touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
Yeah, I think the way our defensive played, we just
we just continue to get better over the year, and
you know, the performers that we put out there, you know,
in the super Bowl on the biggest stage. I don't
think it's a surprise to any of us, you know,
the work we put it in, you know, throughout the
whole year, throughout practice, and then just going out there
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and do our doing, doing our thing, what we've done
all year.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
The number of people lived in your hometown is what
A thousand?
Speaker 7 (16:47):
This hundred thousand?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Okay, yep.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Do you get a statue in your hometown? Is there
any talk of a Cooper to Gene statue?
Speaker 7 (16:59):
I don't. I don't think there's any talk of that,
not that I've earned, at least that I've heard.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well, we should start that. Where is anybody more famous
in your hometown?
Speaker 7 (17:11):
I mean, not that I know of.
Speaker 9 (17:15):
I don't know if there's I don't know if there's
any any professional athletes from from my hometown.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
A thousand people. You got a traffic light in your hometown?
Speaker 5 (17:27):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Why don't you?
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Why don't you have one installed?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Like you could have the Cooper to g and you
gotta have something in there the Cooper to g maybe
a park bench, maybe a traffic light stop something. Yeah,
your defense, I mean stop, I think that would be
a By the way, if I get a slam dunk
contest for NFL players, how do you think you do.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
You know, I got a couple of couple of tricks
in my bag that I could.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
I haven't played basketball in a while, so I probably
need a little bit of practice, but I think I could.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
I could compete a little bit.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
What's your go to.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
Go to man?
Speaker 9 (18:17):
Probably just a windmill, Maybe something off the side of
the backboard, could be something.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Off the glass. Three sixty three sixty. That's some ideas.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I think we should get this together and maybe I
could work on this. I got to work on a
statue for you in a slam done contest with NFL players.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Congrats, a great.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Moment for you, certainly for your family and your hometown
as well, and thanks for joining us. Be careful with
the parade on Friday, Cooper, Absolutely be careful. Be careful,
Cooper to Jean the Eagles defensive bank.
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He's Nick Right, host of First Things First on Fox
Sports one and What's Right with Nick Right on YouTube
wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for joining us. Let's
go back to Sunday morning. Your level of confidence was what.
Speaker 10 (19:18):
Extremely high listen I said to you. I think I'm
sure I did that. I knew they could lose. I
didn't think they I thought it was zero percent. They
lost to the Texans. I thought they could lose to
the Bills, but I would have been shocked. And I
thought they could lose to the Eagles, but I would
have been shocked. What I obviously did not anticipate at
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all was the method in which they lost. And one
of the reasons I was so confident is I had said,
this is a team that you can't blow out, and
if it's close late, you trust Patrick, and so I
didn't think the Chiefs were gonna blow out Philly. You know,
I had respect for Philly, and I think they're a
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great roster and even better than I expected. But yeah,
I was my confidence Sunday morning. Maybe what might be
more instructive is my confidence Saturday night, Dan, when at
a few Super Bowl parties, a few drinks in every
Eagles fan I saw, if they started talking to me,
I'd very earnestly look them in the eye and say,
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I really hope tonight is one of the best nights
of your life, because tomorrow is gonna be one of
the worst. Oh my god, and that didn't you know
it happens?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I suppose when did you realize you were in trouble
during the game?
Speaker 10 (20:46):
Probably later than I should have, Dan, to be honest
with you, ten nothing. I felt, fine, They've come back
from ten nothing down in every Super or not ten nothing,
but ten down in every Super Bowl. The pick six
even obviously at that moment, I'm like, oh, you're up
against it now, but I still felt, Okay, get the ball, score,
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get the ball after half. Fine, the three and out
after the pick six. Everyone points to the interception the
next drive. But the three and out is what was
to me really concerning because it was like, Oh, they
know now they've got to go, and they don't have answers.
So in that moment, I was like, oh, they're probably cooked.
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But then one of the downsides Dan to a long halftime,
Do you have enough time to walk around? And I
had a gosh darn it. I think addics call it
a moment of clarity, and I was like, this whole
thing started down twenty four to nothing, the first Super
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Bowl they ever won, down twenty four to nothing, and
then go on to run and now down twenty four
to nothing, with mister twenty eight to three in the
booth to pull off the three peet, I'm like, oh my,
and I'm now at halftime. I spent most of the
time formulating my Monday argument as to why a twenty
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four to nothing comeback is so much better than a
twenty eight to three comeback, and turns out I won't
need that argument.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
But how do you explain this?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
If somebody didn't see it, you would say this is
why it happened.
Speaker 10 (22:30):
I would say that two most basic reasons are as follows,
and they both oddly have a direct game corollary and
the same game reason one the single most and this
is not a high level analysis, but it's just a
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truism of football, The single most effective way to disrupt
a great quarterback is to if you can get constant
pressure without sending a guys, because they're already at a
numbers disadvantage. You got five blocking four and the quarterback.
So if you can get pressure with those four, your
seven get to guard their five, right, And so that's
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the single best way to do it. They did it brilliantly.
It was the best any team had done it in
at least fifteen years in a Super Bowl. More on
that in the moment. And the second reason is, for
the first time all year, the moment got to the
team and got to Patrick. They have been like, I'm
not going I'm not here to make excuses. I will
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give context if people want to act like Patrick is
the first, in fact, he just joins every other quarterback
ever to have a truly brutal playoff game. But the
moment got to him. It felt like and the last time.
And this is where sports are great. In my lifetime,
there have only been two NFL games played where a
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team walked onto the field and knew, if we win today,
we are the greatest team of all time, the seven
Super Bowl Patriots Giants and this year's Super Bowl. Now
different greatest team O seven was going for single season
Chiefs going for the greatest you know stretch and it
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was the exact same blueprint in both games. Got home
with four and one of the greatest quarterbacks we've ever
seen was skittish and didn't play well. Like that's that
that is what happened. Now that game was close, obviously
this game was not, but that defensive performance holding that
Patriots seemed to fourteen points. It was unthinkable they were
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fourteen point favorites, and so and so it's we saw
it a team that all year long, the moment was
never too big for him. It watching it the first
people the first third down of the game, Dan little
easy pass, Mahomes throws it a little behind and Kelsey
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doesn't quite grab it, and you're like, oh, that's weird.
That was an important play. It's Kelsey and it's Mahomes
and they were both a little off and that was
the story of the game.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
How much of a hit to Mahomes Aura?
Speaker 10 (25:12):
You think, Oh, Aura is a great question. So I
think temporarily it's a big hit. This is again where
I the twenty twenty one AFC Championship game, coming off
a year they had been blown out in the Super
Bowl against Tampa and they're up twenty one to three
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on Cincinnati, and then Mahomes played the worst half of
his life and they lose. That was and then they
trade Tyreek Hill. The aura, the mystique, all of it
was dead and gone. They were a one time champion
who had back to back tough playoff losses, and then
they spent the last three years building that back up,
so they're going to have to do that again. The
(25:56):
can we talk legacy stuff for a moment here, sure,
because what I and I don't think you've done this.
But what is really frustrating to me, though, is folks
acting like, listen, if you're an all time great, this
doesn't happen to you. The fact of the matter is
every single all time great ever this has happened to.
(26:18):
We know Elway got annihilated in a bunch of Super
Bowls fifty five to ten, most notably, Marino got annihilated
in his only Super Bowl. Peyton Manning got annihilated forty
three to eight. People will say Joe Montana never did.
In fact, Joe Montana was perfect in super Bowls. That
is true. Joe Montana, also in the smack Dad middle
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of his prime, in back to back to back years,
was one and done in the playoffs back to back
to back years, zero playoff touchdowns, back to back to
back years, blown out in the playoffs by a combined
score of one hundred and one hundred and two to thirty.
So and then people say, what about Tom the year
(27:02):
he was going for a three peat, didn't get to
have his melt down in the Super Bowl because he
threw a pick six to let a game get out
of hand against Jake Plumber in round two. So I'm
not making excuses. I am saying the one thing Patrick
had on his resume, depending on how you judge that
Tampa Super Bowl was never a moment like this. Now
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he has it, and he joins literally every other quarterback ever.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, I'd only push back on a little bit with that.
If Mahomes had won forty to twenty two, we might
be having a conversation of a larger picture of Mahomes
with Brady. Now now they're even.
Speaker 10 (27:41):
Uh so that is where that is where I totally
agree with you. What this game did. I don't think
I think anyone acting like it moved Mahomes backwards. I
think it is being dishonest or unfair it now not
only did it stall the progress, but had they won,
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I would have come on here and said he doesn't
need seven. In fact, he might already be the best
ever seven years, four rings, a three peat, you know, boom.
But now Brady also went back to back right, so
like you didn't do something he didn't do. So now
it's like he walked onto the field, and it's like
(28:28):
there could be a real goat debate Monday morning, a
real debate, I think, And now the earliest that can
probably happen is twenty thirty. And so yes, like, I
agree with you entirely on that.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
He's Nick Wright, host of First Things First on Fox
Sports one, What's Right with Nick Wright? On YouTube wherever
you get your podcast. I'll move on from the Chiefs
here for a moment. I mentioned Kevin Durant going to
thirty thousand career points, and I think it's a slight
to call him one of the greatest score of all
time because it really limits just your focus of what
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Kevin Durant really is. Dirk Novitsky was a great scorer,
Alan Iverson a great score, Alex English a great score.
Kevin Durant is far more than that. He's a better
basketball player than Steph Curry. But it feels like when
you say he's the one of the great scorers of
all time, I don't think we look at the totality.
So I'm curious where you see Durant in his placement.
Speaker 10 (29:31):
I agree with a lot of what you said. Better
basket Is flatly called him a better basketball player than
Steph Curry. I'd have to spend more time thinking about.
But I understand the point up in my head and
this is the ultimate compliment insult. I kind of put
him in the same category as Shack, which is one
(29:52):
of the greatest players ever who did not reach their potential.
So like, he's one of the fifteen to twenty greatest
players of all time time and that was probably a
worst case scenario for him, and that's a bummer. Like
I the Kevin Durant lived, lived in the conference finals
or NBA finals for his twenties and in his thirties,
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he hasn't made it out a round two. He is,
you know, he's his basketball nomad. His his very ardent
belief that it is not my job to be a
leader has clearly hurt him. He has picked strange bedfellows.
He the You know, there's just a lot of stuff
where I had somebody that is incredibly close to a
(30:41):
different all time great. Say if you had lined up
every top twenty player ever blacktop style, you know, picking
picking teams, and there was someone who'd never seen any
of them play, and you described their attributes to the guy,
It's like, hey, who do you want for overall? And
you go to Jordan and it's like, well, he's about
(31:03):
average height for the people here. He's you know, the
second or third best athlete. There's about seven guys that
can shoot better than him. There's a couple of guys
who can dribble better than him. But he is a
crazy competitor, like insane competitor. They'd be like, Okay, who
else you got? Like, all right, and describe Lebron. He's
the best athlete here. There's ten guys who can dribble
better than him. There's two guys who can pass better
(31:25):
than him. There's seven guys who can shoot.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Better than him.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
Be like, Okay, who's the next guy, who's the tall guy?
It's like, oh him, Well, he's the second best shooter here,
he's the second tallest person here, he's the fourth best
dribbler here. He's like, oh, I want him, Like I actually,
he's gonna be my first pick of every basketball player ever.
And that's where I say he kind of didn't quite
(31:50):
reach what he should have. Okay, is that fair?
Speaker 9 (31:54):
No?
Speaker 5 (31:54):
I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
The nomad and I think if he had gone back
to if he had gone to the Wizards and led
them to the play, you know, like Lebron went back
to Cleveland and that cemented his legacy. Before I let
you go, who had the worst weekend?
Speaker 9 (32:09):
Me?
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Mahomes, Me Drake or you Me?
Speaker 10 (32:13):
No goodness, no matter who was on the list, it
was gonna be me, I know. Can I tell you
a quick story?
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Okay? Is it a quick story?
Speaker 10 (32:23):
Probably not, but it's a great story.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Can I take a break for your great story?
Speaker 10 (32:29):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Is it teas worthy? It is?
Speaker 10 (32:33):
You will love it?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Okay, your group, Okay, we'll love it. Okay, all right,
we'll take a break. We'll come back with Nick Wright
and his great story. Well, let's see if it's a
great story. If Mike Greenberg was selling this, he would
be like coming up one of the greatest stories ever told.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Get up.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
So Nick Wright is staying with us, of course, the
host of First Things First on Fox Sports wand What's
Right with Nick Right on YouTube wherever you get your podcast,
had a rough weekend, had a weekend that was worse
than Mahomes or Drake, which is saying a lot.
Speaker 10 (33:07):
So first of all, what is this a Ken Burns documentary?
How long are your commercial breaks. My god, I said
I'd sit through the break. I didn't know, I mean,
my god. Well, so here's the benefit of there's not
a lot of benefits of the fact that you're not
a listener to the ever growing and very popular What's
Right in the Great podcast host with my son Deman's.
(33:28):
One of the benefits is you're gonna get to hear
the story for the first time. Subscribers and listeners got
to hear it yesterday. Subscribe on YouTube right Saturday night
for the Super Bowl. I'm at one of the many
Super Bowl parties. Of course you've met my wife. She's
with her best friend, both beautiful women. As often as
(33:49):
the case whenever we go to like some you know,
nightclub type place. We haven't been in there five minutes,
and all of a sudden, some group of fellas have
been like, hey, we have a second you guys want
to sit here. They're wearing heels, so they're like yeah.
They My wife then says to me, do you want
to sit I'm like, no, I'm gonna go ahead and
not sit in these fellows section who invited you in
(34:11):
because you're beautiful and they have no idea we're together.
You guys, go ahead, all have fun, circle around, you
have sea fights on a giant scream. So I'm just
standing kind of close to the section watching the USC fight,
having a few cocktails. Some point after I stood there
a while, a woman walks up to me says, can
(34:34):
I ask you a question? Like, of course, why do
you talk so bad about Jalen Hurts. I'm like, well,
I don't know that it's I do and you know,
I do a little tap dancing. And she's like no,
and she seems to have some very quotables. Some I said,
some I didn't, And I'm like, okay, well, okay, so
here are the good things I've said. Here are the
(34:56):
critical things I've said. You know, I throw on some
of that patented right charm. And I figure, we're, you know,
this is going, We're gonna be out of here quickly,
not budging an inch. And then I realized something Dan
probably would have realized earlier had I not been a
couple of cocktails in. And I said, ma'am, may ask
you a question. She said yeah. I said, are you
(35:19):
Jalen Hurts mother? She said yes, I am. I'm like, god,
dog it, I'm like, this is and I said, well,
I'm now in a terrible position. She said, what do
you mean. I'm like, well, you're his mom. I'm supposed
to right now be like, ma'am, I'm so sorry. Your
(35:39):
son's amazing. You know, I'm playing a character on TV.
Like you know, it's my job because you're his mom.
I was like, however, I don't know if you respect
me to begin with, but if I do that, you
certainly won't. It's like, so now I feel like I
have to say to you why I believe Eve the
(36:01):
somewhat negative things I've said about your son is a
thrower of the football. And she's like, yes, go ahead,
and Dan when I tell you. I sat there. I
stood there for fifteen minutes having a conversation about like, listen,
I thought he handled the benching at Alabama incredibly well.
I think I think this. I was like, now, did
(36:22):
I call him the weak link of the Eagles offense?
I did. However, the context of that is I think
they have a top two everything else. I think he's
top two quarterback. And she really grilled me. And then
I look to my sides and I'm like, I don't
know if these are cousins, brothers, uncles or whatever. But
(36:43):
I'm now kind of flanked by what appears to be
the Hurts family. So she says to me at the end,
she was like, what are you gonna say? She didn't
say it harshly, she said, what are you gonna say?
When he wins? And because I'm me and I can't
ever stop being me, I'm like, well if he went
(37:04):
She's like, no, when he wins? And I was like, well,
I got to see the game first, but then we'll
see and you know, it was nice and I got
I went outside sweating bullets and I was like, I
don't know what just happened, but that's my that's my
night before the Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Story?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Dan, why didn't you have Jalen Hurt's mom on your
YouTube podcast?
Speaker 10 (37:27):
Invite Open?
Speaker 5 (37:28):
But that that's called good producing right there?
Speaker 10 (37:30):
Well, so here, you know what, that opens the door
to a second great story. And then I'll let you go.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Is it going to be better than that story?
Speaker 10 (37:38):
No chance?
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Oh, because that wasn't a great story.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Okay, let's go around the room, Todd. Was that a
great story? I think it was a good story, right,
seeing story, it's a good story, all right? Marvin good story, Aunt, Paulie.
Speaker 10 (37:53):
I'm going very good the teas and then it being
the mom and the way he ramped up to it.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
I'm going very good, but not great.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I was more concerned with your wife and her friend
at a table.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
I added that, now that you've heard the story, totally
irrelevant detail, just to make sure you were locked in, buddy,
because I knew. I knew that that was the Chekhov's
gun of the story, except it was never used. Yeah,
I need a better producer. I don't need That's unfair.
(38:25):
I love my producers, but not everybody can have a
Fritzy Fritzi who texts me mid super Bowl knowing what
pain I'm in, then posts super Bowl and then when
I defer and I'm like, hey, I can't, he then
is like, oh, that's interesting because I see another show
as promoting an upcoming appearance you're having, and I'm like, well,
(38:47):
that other show is the TV show on the network
that pays me. So yes, as much as I love Dan,
I do to do that. And then all come on,
Fritzie's a bull man. All that is true, am I lion?
Speaker 2 (39:03):
He's done that before to people who have lost had
emotional losses, but before the game is over, when you
think you're going to win, and he'll say, hey, when
you win, we want to have you on and then
they lose in dramatic fashion. So Fritzi, it's not just you, Nick,
but you're right. I tell him to go get people,
(39:24):
and he goes and gets people.
Speaker 10 (39:26):
Well, I know, I kind of finally saw all the
sausage made. I always was. It was always amazing to
me before we even knew each other. I'm like, man,
I know people really like and respect Dane Patrick, but
he gets all of the guests you'd want the day
you want him, and it turns out it's because you
employ a psychopath.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yes, that is true. That is true. That that is fair.
That is fair. Uh so the other.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Story that is that was it? That was the story. Okay,
that was a.
Speaker 10 (39:52):
Great story that.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, yeah, but that's a story we've heard many, many
times from different people.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Here.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You had something to say to Nick, Oh, well, yeah,
I was gonna say about Nick's story.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
It was a solid move.
Speaker 11 (40:06):
Including the bit about your wife and the table, because
not only did you reinforce that your wife is beautiful,
but also you just proved that you're supremely confident, Like now, babe,
go ahead, you go, sid I'm good, don't worry about it.
I'm gonna go walk around. You go have fun. I'll
see you later. Don't worry about it. That's a solid flex.
Speaker 10 (40:25):
Oh well thanks, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that too.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
How about that?
Speaker 10 (40:29):
They have solid enough flex.
Speaker 11 (40:30):
Had fun, your gorgeous go enjoy yourself. Don't worry about it. See,
at the end of the.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Day, he ever walked into a room, been in a
room with Nick when he walks in, I mean, he's
not suffering from insecurity.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Just saying maybe he should.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
But I'm just saying when he walks in, walks in
like Rick Flair, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Like, dude, Wow, that's a that's a bright red.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
Bring the coat.
Speaker 10 (40:53):
You were going to bring up the coat? And did you.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Did you get your coat from that restaurant yet the.
Speaker 10 (41:00):
Gun club you took you? No? I didn't.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
I never It is still okay, all right, I'll get
it and I'll okay, I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
To my cart.
Speaker 10 (41:08):
Gone, that's gone. That was a year and a half ago.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
There's nobody that's going to take that coat, Nick. Oh,
nobody could wear that coat.
Speaker 10 (41:16):
I wasn't. That's not the orange coat. The orange coat
I would have gotten. That was because you mocked the
orange coat so badly. I wore a much more conservative dude.
I think it's called camel coat, and I left it.
I'll see you.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
How much money did you lose on Sunday?
Speaker 10 (41:33):
It's less about how much I lost and more about
what I would have won. I uh, because they weren't.
I didn't. I actually didn't have to bet the game
directly because it is complex. I'm in a gambling consortium
where we trade futures like stocks. So I had I
had basically a downside risk of less than ten thousand
(41:56):
dollars if the Chiefs lost, and an upside of just
north of seventy if they won, and a lot of
people then would have just bet thirty on the Eagles
and lock in a big profit. But there's a name
for those people. They're called cowards, and so I just
let it ride.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Keep your head up, keep your head up, as I
told you Sunday night, keep your head up. Talk to
you Letter two peak, Let's shut it, let's make shirts up.
That's Nick Right, hosts of First Things First on Fox
Sports one, what's right with Nick right,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Vincent Goodwill has all the answers. Yea Hu's Sports senior,
NBA writer and host of The Good Word podcast. Is
it a slight to say Kevin Durant is one of
the greatest scorers of all time?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
It's a got a slight, Dan, It's just limiting, you
know what I mean. Like when you say someone's a
great scorer, you're saying that's the only thing that they're
great at. Like when I say Carmelo Anthony is a
great score, that's like the first thing that you think of.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
And this if you.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Take a while before you go to maybe the other
things of this game. And I'm not insulting Carmelo in
any way, but you think of Carmelo as the first,
as a great score first and foremost you think of
kad Or. You should think of kat as one of
the greatest all around players this league has ever seen. Unfortunately,
in the era of Lebron James and Stephen Curry, you
tend to limit him or discuss him in other ways
(00:53):
a lot of times that have nothing.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
To do with basketball.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, but I think with Steph Curry, he's the greatest
shooter of all time. We talk about anything else with him. Now,
granted that's a great compliment, but if I said Steph
Curry one of the greatest scorers of all time, that
would be accurate because he's not known for anything else
other than being the greatest shooter in the history of
the game.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I agree, And it's weird.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
You know what's funny is because we don't think about
shooters being great players.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
In that way.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
When you think maybe aside from Larry Bird, but when
you thought of great shooters, you think of guys that
have like a specialized skill like a Dale Ellis or
someone like that that's just a three point shooter only
almost like a field goal kicker in a way in football.
But Steph has sort of revolutionized it in a way
that he is a great scorer and he is a
(01:43):
great shooter, the great shooter we've ever seen, but there's
so many other different parts and different facets to his game.
I think with someone like Kadie, the conversation is so
convoluted and a lot of times unfair when it comes
to Kevin Durant that we're always looking for the slight
when someone calls him a great God saying, wait a minute,
what about the other parts of this game you don't like?
For me, Dan, I thought Kevin Durant became the league's
(02:06):
best player in twenty fourteen when he became the best
defensive player between himself and Lebron James. Except we never
thought about Kevin Durant in that way. We short ourselves
and we short him in the way that we discuss him.
And now that he's on the back end of his career,
now we're starting to hopefully acknowledge and see all the
great parts of this game.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Okay, how about we look at this down the road
when their careers are over with who will be recognized
as a better player, Steph Curry or Kevin Durant.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
That's an excellent, excellent question, man.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I think Steph Curry won that championship in twenty twenty
two put him over the top of Kevin Durant. I think,
unfortunately this Rings culture. I don't subscribe to Rings culture
in that sort of direct way, but I do think
that STEP's ability to lead a franchise, to stay with
a franchise, to stick it out with a franchise, compared
to who's been a little bit more mercenary. That's going
(03:03):
to be something that people look at as a demerit.
I think it's a basketball player Kevin Durant because of
what he does defensively, he's a better all around player
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Let's look at the post trade deadline, Jimmy Butler's contribution
impact at Golden State and Lucas with the Lakers. Which
team do you think goes further due to these two editions.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I think Jimmy Butler makes a bigger impact with the
Golden State Warriors, but that's because the Golden State Warriors
have such a long way to go relative to the Lakers.
Like the Lakers were on a roll up until this trade,
and part of that has been the schedule lighting up
and Lebron coming off of his sabbatical, if that's what
we're going.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
To call it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
He's coming back from that with both freshet of legs
and everything else. I think Luca is a little bit
more duplication. He just does it at a higher level
and he probably has the stamina to do it for
longer stretches of time than Lebron does at this stage
of his career. But I don't see the Lakers having
enough actual functional size and defense on the back line
(04:09):
to make a real impact in the playoffs. I know
that they've won a lot of games, and I think
they're you know, a game and a half and the
lost cosum of being like third in the West or
second in the West or whatever it is. But I
still think that size gets it done when you're talking
about playing a full seven game series. Now, when I
look at Golden State, they're used to playing small and
(04:30):
you have someone in Draymond Green on the back line.
Steph Curry has not played with a guy who can
create his own shot at.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
An elite level.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Stency's played with Kevin Durant and that was in twenty nineteen,
was the last year those guys played together. I'm very
curious to see how those two guys mesh, you know,
Katie and Katie, Jimmy going to the bucket and being
able to be passed first and Steph being able to
roam around on the perimeter having someone.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Create shots for him. That could be scary.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Dan Patrick good Will y'allho's sports senior NBA writer, host
of The Good Word podcast. You know a story that's
kind of gone under the radar, you know, Utah's tanking,
Washington's tanking.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Are the Pelicans tanking? Are they just bad?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
They're confident, they're not trying to be bad. Man.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Some look, when you're in the luxury tax, you ain't
in a luxury tax because you're trying to tank. This
is not a stealth tank job on the Pelicans part. Like, yeah,
they traded Brandon Ingram, but they were expecting Zion Willims.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And to be good this year.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
They acquired the john Ty Murray because they wanted to
make a run, like on December one of last season,
not December first of this season. They were the best
team in the Western Conference and they were looking at
it saying, if we get healthy, if we stay healthy,
we're going to be able to make some real noise
because of the youth and the defense and some of
the athleticism that we have. It just hasn't worked and
(05:57):
they're bad. And unfortunately for New Wallan, I feel like
they're going to have to part ways with Zion Williams
and after the season. And it's not to say that
Zion can't turn it around. It's just that it feels
like that relationship is going sour and those sides cannot
go on. So I don't think this is by design.
They were not intending to be bad. David Griffin thought
(06:18):
he was going to put together a team that was
going to compete in the Western Conference this year.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So the coach didn't talk. After the last game, the
fans booed the new team governor, the former owner, told
fans to shut the bleep up. Fans got tossed for
signs saying fire Nico, and the team lost to Sacramento.
Other than that, it seems like, as Tim Klashaw has
tweeted out, everything's going well in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Everything's going swimmingly there.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Look, then we can all adjudicate the Luka Donci's trade, right,
And I'm not one of those people that cause it
the worst trade of all time, Like when they say
they traded for ad I think there are people are
trying to say that they traded for Antonio Davis in
nineteen ninety four, so that like Anthony Betas is one
of the top ten players in basketball. But I think
(07:04):
that it's been a stroke of bad luck for a
franchise that is so connected to Luke. They're more connected
to Luka Doncic than they were to the actual Dallas Mavericks,
and that's something that you generally dan incorporate with losers.
Like I'm gonna tell you a quick story. I was
a fan of the Detroit Lions, and then July twenty seventh,
(07:27):
nineteen ninety nine happened, and I was no longer a
fan of the Detroit Lions and I have not gone
back since. Why because they were losers. And then when
they made Barry Sanders quit, I quit them. Dallas has
won a championship and they went to the finals. Those
fans should not be bailing, even though I understand their
anger and frustration, but this is a bit shocking the
(07:49):
reaction from everyone.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Death that's Niel Henderson. That's a bit low to me.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
If you gave Nico a do over a mulligan right
now today.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I think, given the fact that we don't know the
extent of Anthony Davis's injury, this core muscle injury that
he has, you might give him a mull again based
off of that, not necessarily based off of the reaction.
Usually you can ride off the reaction, and I think
he was confident enough to say we got some bigs
here that can really make some things happen.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
In the Western Conference.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
If we get them all healthy and upright, I don't
think I don't think people as strong minded as Nico
Harrison are going to be swayed that quickly because of
the reaction.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
He could be swayed because of.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Anthony Davis's health, not because everybody is so heartbroken and
betrayed over Lukadomcic.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Always great to talk to you, Vincent. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Next time, I'll be on video.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Oh yeah, that's what our audience wants. The ladies love that.
The ladies want that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Don't get me in trouble man.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Oh okay. I was gonna say, Vincent Goodwill hunting, but
you're not. You're in love right.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I'm the love doctor. No Moore just gonna say that,
I'm the love doctor.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
No Moore.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Thank you, Vincent.
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Speaker 2 (10:26):
I don't know what he does for his twenty third birthday,
but his twenty second birthday was pretty cool. Cooper de Jean,
the Eagles defensive back, had to pick six as the
Eagles win the Super Bowl, they got the parade coming
up on Friday. How much sleep since Sunday?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Coop?
Speaker 7 (10:42):
Not a whole lot, Not a whole lot.
Speaker 9 (10:44):
I've been trying to catch up a little bit, but
I've gotten I've gotten very little sleep these past few days.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
How was the after party?
Speaker 7 (10:52):
It was awesome? It was awesome. It's a lot better
when you win.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Who is who is the MVP of the after party?
Speaker 7 (11:04):
That's a good question.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
There was a there's quite a few guys that were
having to having good time at the after party.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Well, you're just old enough to drink now now that
you're twenty two, So did you Did you celebrate as
well with these guys?
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Of course, of course I celebrate.
Speaker 9 (11:21):
I had to had to celebrate winning a world championship
and on my birthday, so I had to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
The defensive game plan of not blitzing. Was that discussed
prior to the game, that that was going to be
the game plan? That nobody is going after mahomes other
than your front four?
Speaker 9 (11:40):
Yeah, I mean I think that's that's the way we
practiced all week. It's just to play our coverage like
we like we've done all year. Obviously we've blitz a
little bit this year, but I think, you know, we
we work really well together in the back end, the
way we plays on coverage and the way we match routes,
and you know, it's it makes it easy on on
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the back end when you know you got a D
line up front that's that gets pressure without without having
to you know, plits the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
What was your job? What was your role in the
Super Bowl?
Speaker 9 (12:14):
I mean, just to disrupt timing and you know, packing
zones and make create tight windows for the quarterback, you know,
disrupt timing from the receivers getting off the getting off
the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
You know, try to give our D line as much.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
Time to get to the quarterback, you know, and then
and then packing those zones, you know, and switch up
the picture on the quarterback and you know, make him
have to make him have to play quarterback.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
What did you show my homes or that maybe he
didn't see on your pick six?
Speaker 9 (12:49):
Yeah, I think we were. We were playing uh zone
coverage and you know the way we played it, it
was I was kind of playing off Zach in front
of me, and he actually he actually ran to the flat,
which was my responsibility, and it allowed me to fall
back inside. But I think, I think that's just how
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it's been all year, just us playing off of each other.
And I saw him go out there to the flat,
and I was able to fall back inside and got
to be a free player and just read the quarterback
and able to pick the ball off.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
When did you start thinking end zone?
Speaker 9 (13:25):
Right when I caught the ball. Every time I touched
the ball, I want to score, you know. It's It's
been that way since as long as I remember playing football.
So but luckily I got some got some blocks out
there from the big guys up up front.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Threw me some blocks and found my way in to
the end zone.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Did you keep the ball?
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Of course, of course I kept. I had to keep.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Sometimes you get too excited and you might, you know,
be spiking it or something and then teammate has to
grab it or something. But look, this isn't normal like
your age, Super Bowl going against Mahomes pick six. I mean,
how do you how do you process that of where
you were, where you were drafted and uh, here you are.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Yeah, it's I mean, I don't think I processed it yet.
Speaker 9 (14:16):
Yeah, three and a half years ago, I was in
high school and I'm playing on on the biggest stage
in football in the super Bowl, And I think it's
just a lot of credit to the people who've helped
me along along the way.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You didn't have a Mahomes poster on your wall growing up,
did you?
Speaker 7 (14:32):
No? I didn't. I didn't. I did watch him.
Speaker 9 (14:35):
You haven't haven't played quarterback, you know, I did watch
him quite a bit growing up.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
But did you talk to him at all? Have you
talked to Mahomes after the game?
Speaker 7 (14:46):
I have No, I haven't, I have it. I'm not sure. Yeah,
I haven't talked to him.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And I wouldn't ask him to sign the football. I'd
wait a little while before you do something like that.
Me into halftime, what was it like.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Yeah, I mean a lot of a lot of focus.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
I think, you know, I think everybody understood that the
game wasn't over because you know, we understood who you
know who, who they were on.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
On that side.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
You know their their offense and what they're capable of,
their quarterback, their offense, how explosive it is, and you know,
so we knew, we knew it wasn't finished you at halftime,
and you know we had to you know, we had
to go out there and you know put it away
in that second half.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
When did you know the game was over?
Speaker 9 (15:35):
That's I mean, I don't know if I really crossed
my mind until it was later in that in that
fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Like thirty four to nothing. I think you feel pretty safe,
don't you.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
That Then I think we gave up.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
We give up a touchdown, So, I mean I was,
I was still a little a little nervous. I didn't
want to, you know, say it was over yet, but
there's there was definitely a lot of a lot of
confidence when we got when we went up thirty four.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, I think that you guys should put the score
forty to six on your ring because those last two
touchdowns they really don't count. I mean, it was an
incredible defensive performance, but you gave up a couple of
garbage touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
Yeah, I think the way our defensive played, we just
we just continue to get better over the year, and
you know, the performers that we put out there, you know,
in the super Bowl on the biggest stage. I don't
think it's a surprise to any of us, you know,
the work we put it in, you know, throughout the
whole year, throughout practice, and then just going out there
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and do our doing, doing our thing, what we've done
all year.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
The number of people lived in your hometown is what
A thousand?
Speaker 7 (16:47):
This hundred thousand?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Okay, yep.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Do you get a statue in your hometown? Is there
any talk of a Cooper to Gene statue?
Speaker 7 (16:59):
I don't. I don't think there's any talk of that,
not that I've earned, at least that I've heard.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well, we should start that. Where is anybody more famous
in your hometown?
Speaker 7 (17:11):
I mean, not that I know of.
Speaker 9 (17:15):
I don't know if there's I don't know if there's
any any professional athletes from from my hometown.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
A thousand people. You got a traffic light in your hometown?
Speaker 5 (17:27):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Why don't you?
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Why don't you have one installed?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Like you could have the Cooper to g and you
gotta have something in there the Cooper to g maybe
a park bench, maybe a traffic light stop something. Yeah,
your defense, I mean stop, I think that would be
a By the way, if I get a slam dunk
contest for NFL players, how do you think you do.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
You know, I got a couple of couple of tricks
in my bag that I could.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
I haven't played basketball in a while, so I probably
need a little bit of practice, but I think I could.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
I could compete a little bit.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
What's your go to.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
Go to man?
Speaker 9 (18:17):
Probably just a windmill, Maybe something off the side of
the backboard, could be something.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Off the glass. Three sixty three sixty. That's some ideas.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I think we should get this together and maybe I
could work on this. I got to work on a
statue for you in a slam done contest with NFL players.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Congrats, a great.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Moment for you, certainly for your family and your hometown
as well, and thanks for joining us. Be careful with
the parade on Friday, Cooper, Absolutely be careful. Be careful,
Cooper to Jean the Eagles defensive bank.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2 (19:03):
He's Nick Right, host of First Things First on Fox
Sports one and What's Right with Nick Right on YouTube
wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for joining us. Let's
go back to Sunday morning. Your level of confidence was what.
Speaker 10 (19:18):
Extremely high listen I said to you. I think I'm
sure I did that. I knew they could lose. I
didn't think they I thought it was zero percent. They
lost to the Texans. I thought they could lose to
the Bills, but I would have been shocked. And I
thought they could lose to the Eagles, but I would
have been shocked. What I obviously did not anticipate at
(19:42):
all was the method in which they lost. And one
of the reasons I was so confident is I had said,
this is a team that you can't blow out, and
if it's close late, you trust Patrick, and so I
didn't think the Chiefs were gonna blow out Philly. You know,
I had respect for Philly, and I think they're a
(20:04):
great roster and even better than I expected. But yeah,
I was my confidence Sunday morning. Maybe what might be
more instructive is my confidence Saturday night, Dan, when at
a few Super Bowl parties, a few drinks in every
Eagles fan I saw, if they started talking to me,
I'd very earnestly look them in the eye and say,
(20:27):
I really hope tonight is one of the best nights
of your life, because tomorrow is gonna be one of
the worst. Oh my god, and that didn't you know
it happens?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I suppose when did you realize you were in trouble
during the game?
Speaker 10 (20:46):
Probably later than I should have, Dan, to be honest
with you, ten nothing. I felt, fine, They've come back
from ten nothing down in every Super or not ten nothing,
but ten down in every Super Bowl. The pick six
even obviously at that moment, I'm like, oh, you're up
against it now, but I still felt, Okay, get the ball, score,
(21:10):
get the ball after half. Fine, the three and out
after the pick six. Everyone points to the interception the
next drive. But the three and out is what was
to me really concerning because it was like, Oh, they
know now they've got to go, and they don't have answers.
So in that moment, I was like, oh, they're probably cooked.
(21:31):
But then one of the downsides Dan to a long halftime,
Do you have enough time to walk around? And I
had a gosh darn it. I think addics call it
a moment of clarity, and I was like, this whole
thing started down twenty four to nothing, the first Super
(21:53):
Bowl they ever won, down twenty four to nothing, and
then go on to run and now down twenty four
to nothing, with mister twenty eight to three in the
booth to pull off the three peet, I'm like, oh my,
and I'm now at halftime. I spent most of the
time formulating my Monday argument as to why a twenty
(22:14):
four to nothing comeback is so much better than a
twenty eight to three comeback, and turns out I won't
need that argument.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
But how do you explain this?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
If somebody didn't see it, you would say this is
why it happened.
Speaker 10 (22:30):
I would say that two most basic reasons are as follows,
and they both oddly have a direct game corollary and
the same game reason one the single most and this
is not a high level analysis, but it's just a
(22:51):
truism of football, The single most effective way to disrupt
a great quarterback is to if you can get constant
pressure without sending a guys, because they're already at a
numbers disadvantage. You got five blocking four and the quarterback.
So if you can get pressure with those four, your
seven get to guard their five, right, And so that's
(23:11):
the single best way to do it. They did it brilliantly.
It was the best any team had done it in
at least fifteen years in a Super Bowl. More on
that in the moment. And the second reason is, for
the first time all year, the moment got to the
team and got to Patrick. They have been like, I'm
not going I'm not here to make excuses. I will
(23:32):
give context if people want to act like Patrick is
the first, in fact, he just joins every other quarterback
ever to have a truly brutal playoff game. But the
moment got to him. It felt like and the last time.
And this is where sports are great. In my lifetime,
there have only been two NFL games played where a
(23:54):
team walked onto the field and knew, if we win today,
we are the greatest team of all time, the seven
Super Bowl Patriots Giants and this year's Super Bowl. Now
different greatest team O seven was going for single season
Chiefs going for the greatest you know stretch and it
(24:16):
was the exact same blueprint in both games. Got home
with four and one of the greatest quarterbacks we've ever
seen was skittish and didn't play well. Like that's that
that is what happened. Now that game was close, obviously
this game was not, but that defensive performance holding that
Patriots seemed to fourteen points. It was unthinkable they were
(24:38):
fourteen point favorites, and so and so it's we saw
it a team that all year long, the moment was
never too big for him. It watching it the first
people the first third down of the game, Dan little
easy pass, Mahomes throws it a little behind and Kelsey
(24:59):
doesn't quite grab it, and you're like, oh, that's weird.
That was an important play. It's Kelsey and it's Mahomes
and they were both a little off and that was
the story of the game.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
How much of a hit to Mahomes Aura?
Speaker 10 (25:12):
You think, Oh, Aura is a great question. So I
think temporarily it's a big hit. This is again where
I the twenty twenty one AFC Championship game, coming off
a year they had been blown out in the Super
Bowl against Tampa and they're up twenty one to three
(25:33):
on Cincinnati, and then Mahomes played the worst half of
his life and they lose. That was and then they
trade Tyreek Hill. The aura, the mystique, all of it
was dead and gone. They were a one time champion
who had back to back tough playoff losses, and then
they spent the last three years building that back up,
so they're going to have to do that again. The
(25:56):
can we talk legacy stuff for a moment here, sure,
because what I and I don't think you've done this.
But what is really frustrating to me, though, is folks
acting like, listen, if you're an all time great, this
doesn't happen to you. The fact of the matter is
every single all time great ever this has happened to.
(26:18):
We know Elway got annihilated in a bunch of Super
Bowls fifty five to ten, most notably, Marino got annihilated
in his only Super Bowl. Peyton Manning got annihilated forty
three to eight. People will say Joe Montana never did.
In fact, Joe Montana was perfect in super Bowls. That
is true. Joe Montana, also in the smack Dad middle
(26:39):
of his prime, in back to back to back years,
was one and done in the playoffs back to back
to back years, zero playoff touchdowns, back to back to
back years, blown out in the playoffs by a combined
score of one hundred and one hundred and two to thirty.
So and then people say, what about Tom the year
(27:02):
he was going for a three peat, didn't get to
have his melt down in the Super Bowl because he
threw a pick six to let a game get out
of hand against Jake Plumber in round two. So I'm
not making excuses. I am saying the one thing Patrick
had on his resume, depending on how you judge that
Tampa Super Bowl was never a moment like this. Now
(27:24):
he has it, and he joins literally every other quarterback ever.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, I'd only push back on a little bit with that.
If Mahomes had won forty to twenty two, we might
be having a conversation of a larger picture of Mahomes
with Brady. Now now they're even.
Speaker 10 (27:41):
Uh so that is where that is where I totally
agree with you. What this game did. I don't think
I think anyone acting like it moved Mahomes backwards. I
think it is being dishonest or unfair it now not
only did it stall the progress, but had they won,
(28:04):
I would have come on here and said he doesn't
need seven. In fact, he might already be the best
ever seven years, four rings, a three peat, you know, boom.
But now Brady also went back to back right, so
like you didn't do something he didn't do. So now
it's like he walked onto the field, and it's like
(28:28):
there could be a real goat debate Monday morning, a
real debate, I think, And now the earliest that can
probably happen is twenty thirty. And so yes, like, I
agree with you entirely on that.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
He's Nick Wright, host of First Things First on Fox
Sports one, What's Right with Nick Wright? On YouTube wherever
you get your podcast. I'll move on from the Chiefs
here for a moment. I mentioned Kevin Durant going to
thirty thousand career points, and I think it's a slight
to call him one of the greatest score of all
time because it really limits just your focus of what
(29:06):
Kevin Durant really is. Dirk Novitsky was a great scorer,
Alan Iverson a great score, Alex English a great score.
Kevin Durant is far more than that. He's a better
basketball player than Steph Curry. But it feels like when
you say he's the one of the great scorers of
all time, I don't think we look at the totality.
So I'm curious where you see Durant in his placement.
Speaker 10 (29:31):
I agree with a lot of what you said. Better
basket Is flatly called him a better basketball player than
Steph Curry. I'd have to spend more time thinking about.
But I understand the point up in my head and
this is the ultimate compliment insult. I kind of put
him in the same category as Shack, which is one
(29:52):
of the greatest players ever who did not reach their potential.
So like, he's one of the fifteen to twenty greatest
players of all time time and that was probably a
worst case scenario for him, and that's a bummer. Like
I the Kevin Durant lived, lived in the conference finals
or NBA finals for his twenties and in his thirties,
(30:17):
he hasn't made it out a round two. He is,
you know, he's his basketball nomad. His his very ardent
belief that it is not my job to be a
leader has clearly hurt him. He has picked strange bedfellows.
He the You know, there's just a lot of stuff
where I had somebody that is incredibly close to a
(30:41):
different all time great. Say if you had lined up
every top twenty player ever blacktop style, you know, picking
picking teams, and there was someone who'd never seen any
of them play, and you described their attributes to the guy,
It's like, hey, who do you want for overall? And
you go to Jordan and it's like, well, he's about
(31:03):
average height for the people here. He's you know, the
second or third best athlete. There's about seven guys that
can shoot better than him. There's a couple of guys
who can dribble better than him. But he is a
crazy competitor, like insane competitor. They'd be like, Okay, who
else you got? Like, all right, and describe Lebron. He's
the best athlete here. There's ten guys who can dribble
better than him. There's two guys who can pass better
(31:25):
than him. There's seven guys who can shoot.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Better than him.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
Be like, Okay, who's the next guy, who's the tall guy?
It's like, oh him, Well, he's the second best shooter here,
he's the second tallest person here, he's the fourth best
dribbler here. He's like, oh, I want him, Like I actually,
he's gonna be my first pick of every basketball player ever.
And that's where I say he kind of didn't quite
(31:50):
reach what he should have. Okay, is that fair?
Speaker 9 (31:54):
No?
Speaker 5 (31:54):
I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
The nomad and I think if he had gone back
to if he had gone to the Wizards and led
them to the play, you know, like Lebron went back
to Cleveland and that cemented his legacy. Before I let
you go, who had the worst weekend?
Speaker 9 (32:09):
Me?
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Mahomes, Me Drake or you Me?
Speaker 10 (32:13):
No goodness, no matter who was on the list, it
was gonna be me, I know. Can I tell you
a quick story?
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Okay? Is it a quick story?
Speaker 10 (32:23):
Probably not, but it's a great story.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Can I take a break for your great story?
Speaker 10 (32:29):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Is it teas worthy? It is?
Speaker 10 (32:33):
You will love it?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Okay, your group, Okay, we'll love it. Okay, all right,
we'll take a break. We'll come back with Nick Wright
and his great story. Well, let's see if it's a
great story. If Mike Greenberg was selling this, he would
be like coming up one of the greatest stories ever told.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Get up.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
So Nick Wright is staying with us, of course, the
host of First Things First on Fox Sports wand What's
Right with Nick Right on YouTube wherever you get your podcast,
had a rough weekend, had a weekend that was worse
than Mahomes or Drake, which is saying a lot.
Speaker 10 (33:07):
So first of all, what is this a Ken Burns documentary?
How long are your commercial breaks. My god, I said
I'd sit through the break. I didn't know, I mean,
my god. Well, so here's the benefit of there's not
a lot of benefits of the fact that you're not
a listener to the ever growing and very popular What's
Right in the Great podcast host with my son Deman's.
(33:28):
One of the benefits is you're gonna get to hear
the story for the first time. Subscribers and listeners got
to hear it yesterday. Subscribe on YouTube right Saturday night
for the Super Bowl. I'm at one of the many
Super Bowl parties. Of course you've met my wife. She's
with her best friend, both beautiful women. As often as
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the case whenever we go to like some you know,
nightclub type place. We haven't been in there five minutes,
and all of a sudden, some group of fellas have
been like, hey, we have a second you guys want
to sit here. They're wearing heels, so they're like yeah.
They My wife then says to me, do you want
to sit I'm like, no, I'm gonna go ahead and
not sit in these fellows section who invited you in
(34:11):
because you're beautiful and they have no idea we're together.
You guys, go ahead, all have fun, circle around, you
have sea fights on a giant scream. So I'm just
standing kind of close to the section watching the USC fight,
having a few cocktails. Some point after I stood there
a while, a woman walks up to me says, can
(34:34):
I ask you a question? Like, of course, why do
you talk so bad about Jalen Hurts. I'm like, well,
I don't know that it's I do and you know,
I do a little tap dancing. And she's like no,
and she seems to have some very quotables. Some I said,
some I didn't, And I'm like, okay, well, okay, so
here are the good things I've said. Here are the
(34:56):
critical things I've said. You know, I throw on some
of that patented right charm. And I figure, we're, you know,
this is going, We're gonna be out of here quickly,
not budging an inch. And then I realized something Dan
probably would have realized earlier had I not been a
couple of cocktails in. And I said, ma'am, may ask
you a question. She said yeah. I said, are you
(35:19):
Jalen Hurts mother? She said yes, I am. I'm like, god,
dog it, I'm like, this is and I said, well,
I'm now in a terrible position. She said, what do
you mean. I'm like, well, you're his mom. I'm supposed
to right now be like, ma'am, I'm so sorry. Your
(35:39):
son's amazing. You know, I'm playing a character on TV.
Like you know, it's my job because you're his mom.
I was like, however, I don't know if you respect
me to begin with, but if I do that, you
certainly won't. It's like, so now I feel like I
have to say to you why I believe Eve the
(36:01):
somewhat negative things I've said about your son is a
thrower of the football. And she's like, yes, go ahead,
and Dan when I tell you. I sat there. I
stood there for fifteen minutes having a conversation about like, listen,
I thought he handled the benching at Alabama incredibly well.
I think I think this. I was like, now, did
(36:22):
I call him the weak link of the Eagles offense?
I did. However, the context of that is I think
they have a top two everything else. I think he's
top two quarterback. And she really grilled me. And then
I look to my sides and I'm like, I don't
know if these are cousins, brothers, uncles or whatever. But
(36:43):
I'm now kind of flanked by what appears to be
the Hurts family. So she says to me at the end,
she was like, what are you gonna say? She didn't
say it harshly, she said, what are you gonna say?
When he wins? And because I'm me and I can't
ever stop being me, I'm like, well if he went
(37:04):
She's like, no, when he wins? And I was like, well,
I got to see the game first, but then we'll
see and you know, it was nice and I got
I went outside sweating bullets and I was like, I
don't know what just happened, but that's my that's my
night before the Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Story?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Dan, why didn't you have Jalen Hurt's mom on your
YouTube podcast?
Speaker 10 (37:27):
Invite Open?
Speaker 5 (37:28):
But that that's called good producing right there?
Speaker 10 (37:30):
Well, so here, you know what, that opens the door
to a second great story. And then I'll let you go.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Is it going to be better than that story?
Speaker 10 (37:38):
No chance?
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Oh, because that wasn't a great story.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Okay, let's go around the room, Todd. Was that a
great story? I think it was a good story, right,
seeing story, it's a good story, all right? Marvin good story, Aunt, Paulie.
Speaker 10 (37:53):
I'm going very good the teas and then it being
the mom and the way he ramped up to it.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
I'm going very good, but not great.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I was more concerned with your wife and her friend
at a table.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
I added that, now that you've heard the story, totally
irrelevant detail, just to make sure you were locked in, buddy,
because I knew. I knew that that was the Chekhov's
gun of the story, except it was never used. Yeah,
I need a better producer. I don't need That's unfair.
(38:25):
I love my producers, but not everybody can have a
Fritzy Fritzi who texts me mid super Bowl knowing what
pain I'm in, then posts super Bowl and then when
I defer and I'm like, hey, I can't, he then
is like, oh, that's interesting because I see another show
as promoting an upcoming appearance you're having, and I'm like, well,
(38:47):
that other show is the TV show on the network
that pays me. So yes, as much as I love Dan,
I do to do that. And then all come on,
Fritzie's a bull man. All that is true, am I lion?
Speaker 2 (39:03):
He's done that before to people who have lost had
emotional losses, but before the game is over, when you
think you're going to win, and he'll say, hey, when
you win, we want to have you on and then
they lose in dramatic fashion. So Fritzi, it's not just you, Nick,
but you're right. I tell him to go get people,
(39:24):
and he goes and gets people.
Speaker 10 (39:26):
Well, I know, I kind of finally saw all the
sausage made. I always was. It was always amazing to
me before we even knew each other. I'm like, man,
I know people really like and respect Dane Patrick, but
he gets all of the guests you'd want the day
you want him, and it turns out it's because you
employ a psychopath.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yes, that is true. That is true. That that is fair.
That is fair. Uh so the other.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Story that is that was it? That was the story. Okay,
that was a.
Speaker 10 (39:52):
Great story that.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, yeah, but that's a story we've heard many, many
times from different people.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Here.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You had something to say to Nick, Oh, well, yeah,
I was gonna say about Nick's story.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
It was a solid move.
Speaker 11 (40:06):
Including the bit about your wife and the table, because
not only did you reinforce that your wife is beautiful,
but also you just proved that you're supremely confident, Like now, babe,
go ahead, you go, sid I'm good, don't worry about it.
I'm gonna go walk around. You go have fun. I'll
see you later. Don't worry about it. That's a solid flex.
Speaker 10 (40:25):
Oh well thanks, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that too.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
How about that?
Speaker 10 (40:29):
They have solid enough flex.
Speaker 11 (40:30):
Had fun, your gorgeous go enjoy yourself. Don't worry about it. See,
at the end of the.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Day, he ever walked into a room, been in a
room with Nick when he walks in, I mean, he's
not suffering from insecurity.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Just saying maybe he should.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
But I'm just saying when he walks in, walks in
like Rick Flair, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Like, dude, Wow, that's a that's a bright red.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
Bring the coat.
Speaker 10 (40:53):
You were going to bring up the coat? And did you.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Did you get your coat from that restaurant yet the.
Speaker 10 (41:00):
Gun club you took you? No? I didn't.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
I never It is still okay, all right, I'll get
it and I'll okay, I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
To my cart.
Speaker 10 (41:08):
Gone, that's gone. That was a year and a half ago.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
There's nobody that's going to take that coat, Nick. Oh,
nobody could wear that coat.
Speaker 10 (41:16):
I wasn't. That's not the orange coat. The orange coat
I would have gotten. That was because you mocked the
orange coat so badly. I wore a much more conservative dude.
I think it's called camel coat, and I left it.
I'll see you.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
How much money did you lose on Sunday?
Speaker 10 (41:33):
It's less about how much I lost and more about
what I would have won. I uh, because they weren't.
I didn't. I actually didn't have to bet the game
directly because it is complex. I'm in a gambling consortium
where we trade futures like stocks. So I had I
had basically a downside risk of less than ten thousand
(41:56):
dollars if the Chiefs lost, and an upside of just
north of seventy if they won, and a lot of
people then would have just bet thirty on the Eagles
and lock in a big profit. But there's a name
for those people. They're called cowards, and so I just
let it ride.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Keep your head up, keep your head up, as I
told you Sunday night, keep your head up. Talk to
you Letter two peak, Let's shut it, let's make shirts up.
That's Nick Right, hosts of First Things First on Fox
Sports one, what's right with Nick right,
Hosts And Creators
Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
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