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February 13, 2025 41 mins

Dan raves over the new NHL All-Star break format. Could the NBA learn from this and adopt a "USA vs the World" type of format? Vikings HC Kevin O'Connell opens up about the team's upcoming quarterback decisions and jokes about Sean McVay's hair routine. Plus, Saturday Night Live cast member and lifelong Chiefs fan, Heidi Gardner reflects on Kansas City's season and shares who her dream SNL host would be. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
We did it. We made it to a Thursday a't
hour one. Dan and the Dan A's Dan Patrick Show.
Come on in stay a while. Kevin O'Connell, the NFL
Coach of the Year, the Vikings head coach, will stop
by a little bit later on. He was voted, I
don't know how scientific this vote, was the second best
looking coach in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yes, bo, well, you said that. I thought you're gonna
say sexiest coach alive.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
No, well, second best sexiest coach alive. I don't know.
Now I have an idea. Who is the best looking
coach in the NFL? Todd, would you like to guess
who is the best looking?

Speaker 4 (00:42):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Once again, I don't know the results of this, but
I know that Kevin O'Connell finished second as the best
looking coach in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Could I get a minute to think about that?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Okay, Marvin, how about you? Who's your coach?

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Matt Laflor.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, I think that's the guy. I think that's a
bloop bloop. Kevin O'Connell's not even the best looking coach
in his own division. I think is what we're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yes, where we put Sean mcvagh, would he be a
top five?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Sorry, you can put him in there. Yeah. I don't
know how you get your beard like that where it
doesn't get, you know, thicker, it's a you know, Don
Johnson used to do that with Miami Vice, where you
were like, how does he get it to look like
that every single day? Yes, Pauline, you get.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
One of those beard trimmers and put on setting three
and just do one lap around and it keeps it permanently.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
As a four D eight growth.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Hmmm, he's definitely got one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah. I could never do that anyway, it wouldn't look good.
But I always was envious of those guys like Sean McVay.
It feels like he wakes up with the five o'clock
shadow and he looks good with it. But we'll talk
to Kevin O'Connell. Heidi Gardner very talented actress. Saturday Night Live.
She's been there I think six or seven years. She's

(01:53):
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Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yes, Marvin, surprisingly she's not black.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yes, yes, we found that out as well. Good morning.
If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app.
And our radio affiliates around the country over four hundred
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stat of the Day, all of that coming up. The
NBA at the All Star break and it's the Cavaliers
and the Thunder. As the network executives go, oh my god,

(03:12):
if it's the Cabs and the Thunder in the NBA Finals,
what are we going to do? I'm going to watch?
But they played great basketball. The Lakers after the joy
of Luca's debut against Utah. Then they go to you,
you're not beating Utah at Utah. Mister. They got roughed
up last night and so they're five hundred with Luca

(03:34):
right now. Todd, you got poll questions today. You're fired up.
By the way. This is a meet Thursday because we're
off tomorrow. I wanted to spend the entire day with
my wife from morning. Mister Love, Yes, doctor Love, I'm
Kevin Love, that's me. But uh so we're off tomorrow

(03:55):
to get started on a vacation week. The guys certainly
earned it. We uh worked hard during the NFL season,
very little time off. So we're going to take a
Valentine's Day off and then next week off as well.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yes, Paul, quick question for you in the room on
Valentine's Day? Is a nice dinner out enough or is
a gift assumed included in the process.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I think that really has to go with just the
individual of you've got to I don't think there's a
universal if you do this or you should should do that.
I don't. I don't. I wouldn't subscribe to that. I
would just say you probably know what you did before,
or maybe you need to do a little more this year. Yes, Dodd,
my watch says at.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
Least and I believe her that she does not want anything.
And I mean she doesn't want anything, if you know
what I mean. It's just Friday on the calendar. I
don'tkay Valentine's Day. It's a man made, made up bend
cute babies or not.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Like a present. She just doesn't want your present.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
She doesn't want to unwrap you.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
I like to go to bed at eight thirty and
i'll see you tomorrow and we'll figure out what.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
By the way, it's a meet Thursday, So I said
to Tyler, let's fire up the triggers. So we got
smoked ribbis and we had these salt crusted, loaded baked potatoes.
Who has it better than we do?

Speaker 4 (05:09):
No body?

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take your phone calls. Seaton, Oh, no, Todd your poll

(05:33):
questions today.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Uh, we'll start with I have here.

Speaker 6 (05:36):
If I only said four Nations and left off the
face off part, would you know what sport I was
talking about?

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Absolutely?

Speaker 6 (05:43):
Possibly, no chance four Nations versus four nations face off?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, but if you're watching ESPN, then you know what
is happening. And I watch ESPN usually around the horn
part in the interruption, and I saw the promos there.
I loved it. I thought it was wonderful. I thought
there was true excitement for what is deemed their All
Star weekend. I thought they did a great job. I
thought it was fun. And I know we keep talking

(06:07):
about this with the NBA, the United States versus everybody else,
and the pushback I always get from an NBA anostar,
are there enough talented players from around the world to
compete with the US team? And I said, well, you
probably have five of the best seven players who weren't

(06:28):
from the United States, so that's a good start. But
you know you got that it meant something.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Now.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't know if it's going to mean something to
Joker to be playing or Yannis. I mean whoever, whoever
you want to put in there, are they going to be?
How excited? How important is this to them? But you know,
with the Four Nations, I loved it. It was exciting.
The uniform that Canada Jersey gorge awesome, look like it

(07:01):
was out of the nineteen twenties, something that Montreal Canadians
would have worn, but it was gorgeous. So watching that
it was exciting. And I think anything that you're watching,
you want to know why am I getting invested? If
you're not? Well, they were invested, and so was. I
thought it was exciting, So I'm fine with it. I
knew exactly what it was and it lived up. No,

(07:22):
it exceeded expectations because they played hard. All right? What else?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Don Okay, how about this one? How would you feel?

Speaker 6 (07:29):
This is Tristan Thompson had a late dunk in the
Cavs Raptors game in Toronto and that kind of upset
some of the Raptors players. So my question is, how
would you feel of your opponent dunked on your team
in the final seconds of a blowout win. Choices being
I would be livid and might even getting that player's face.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
I wouldn't appreciate it very much.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
Hope to return the favor though down the road shrug
my shoulders and think to myself, was that.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Really necessary or I wouldn't care at all? We lost?
Move on.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
This is really really deep for a meaningless game against
the Toronto Raptors.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
It's also after the super Bowl in mid February, and
we could talk about Luca over one and one.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
They're two and one. They're two and three with Luca.
They're three and four with Luca.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
If you dunked against the Raptors, did it really happen?
Nobody cares the fact that it's Tristan Thompson. Then I'm
gonna say, hey, good for him. Now he's still holding
on for you know who's still in the NBA. I
had no idea. I thought that this might have been
his son. Taj Gibson had ten points in the Hornets

(08:33):
win or a loss against the Magic. He is almost
forty years of age. I thought that can't be the
Taj Gibson that I remember, but it is. He is
the oldest Hornet to record a double double since Robert
Parrish in nineteen ninety six. Whoa stead of.

Speaker 7 (08:51):
A day, Stana day Statava day stand outa day.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
This is the Stan of the day. Who were the
oldest player? I know, we look at Lebron, but we
got to take him off the board. But the oldest
players in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Active players this year, Lebron James is the oldest. Taj
Gibson at thirty eight. Second, Chris Paul, PJ. Tucker still
do it, Jeff Green, m Al Horford, Kyle Lowry, et cetera,
et cetera.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
No, Taj is thirty nine years, two hundred and thirty
three days. He's not thirty eight. Oh sorry, yeah, yeah,
he's thirty nine going on forty years of a Taj Gibson.
By the way, I know I focus on Joker when
he gets his triple doubles. Russell Westbrook Junior the third
won an MVP because he averaged a triple double. We

(09:46):
go back to Oscar Robertson back in what nineteen sixty
two when he had a triple double, when we didn't
even know it was a triple double. It was just
he averaged double figures in three different categories and then
somebody said that's a triple double. Well, everybody is putting
up triple doubles. It feels like there have been one
hundred triple doubles so far this season. That's the second

(10:08):
time in the last twenty years there have been at
least one hundred triple doubles prior to the All Star break.
The only other season that had more was twenty twenty
one to twenty twenty two, so hasn't been that long
of a stretch in between. Here Also, everybody gets thirty points.
It feels like one hundred and twenty three different players

(10:29):
have had a thirty point game so far this season.
Only one other season in NBA history had more. That's
the twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three season. Steat of
the Day, SAT of the Day, that past stat of
the day, stat of the day?

Speaker 8 (10:47):
Here comes that what stat of.

Speaker 9 (10:50):
The new.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
And we suggested this last week. How about we have
a triple dozen where you have to have at least
twelve points, twelve rebounds, welve assists. Can we dress it
up a little bit here, or we make it just
like Joker does he gets a triple double in three quarters.
That if you get it in three quarters, then we'll
count it as a triple double. If you get it

(11:12):
in four I mean the degree of difficulty of what's
going on right now. I mean, there are incredible scores.
I watched the Knicks and the Hawks last time. I
wish they played once a week. Absolutely, it was great
back and forth and the Knicks winning that game, although
I would have thought up six with ten seconds to

(11:35):
go in regulation. But Trey Young played well, Karl Anthony
Towns played well, Brunson had a big night. It was
a lot of fun. But the triple double is kind
of losing its luster there.

Speaker 10 (11:48):
Yes, Marvin going back to the Knicks, can we apologize
to Carl Anthony Towns. We've been calling him soft, as
Jimmy Butler said he was soft.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Who called it? I didn't call him soft, the general
I'm not the general public.

Speaker 10 (12:02):
Everyone except Dan Patrick. Yes, I was calling him.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I just said, he said he's the best shooting big
men of all time. Right he did. Yes he's not.
He's not. But he he's a perimeter big, he's a
finesse big man.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
He's a tall man.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, he's not a big man. Yes, excuse me. He
changed the game, he gained Yeah. So when you say
things like that, then people there you invite criticism. But
I mean, he had what forty four last night.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yes, Karl Anthony Town's statements about how he changed the
game are the basketball equivalent of Tommy Shaw saying it
was Zeppelin Stones sticks.

Speaker 8 (12:44):
What was wrong with that?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Uh? So you're saying it should have been Zeppelin sticks,
the sticks and stones right right, exactly exactly So Tommy
Shaw lead singer of Sticks, he was a guitar player
player one of Dennis the Young was the lead singer.
Y Yes, Jepeland Stones Sticks. I went to a Braves
game with Tommy Shaw, of course. Awesome. Yeah, I mean

(13:10):
the yeah Thomas, Yeah, big baseball fan, nice guy. But
uh yeah, Rando, But yeah, I ended up going to
a baseball game, Yes, Paul Karl Anthony Town.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Though five years ago he was averaging twenty seven points
and twelve rebounds, and then the last two years of
Minnesota his rebounds dropped to eight point one eight point three,
and he started getting the rep that we'd seen his
best work and he's not battling hard by the boards.
This year he's up to twenty five points per game,
thirteen point five rebounds.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, and those are great numbers, absolutely, But if you're
that great, you should put up great numbers if you
tell me you're great, I expect you to put up
great numbers. Carl Anthony Towns, Yeah, Cat, as they like
to call on Cat. You know, when the timber Will
made him expendable, nobody was crying out, Like when Luca

(14:03):
was made expendable by the Dallas Mavericks. It wasn't one
of those Are you're giving up one of those generational
But if this is the guy who's changed the game
and the best shooting big man of old time, you
would have thought there have been a lot of people
interested in Karl Anthony Towns. Bunny had a big night
last night and the Knicks got the win prior to
the All Star break. What else do you have there?
You know what, Todd, let me take a break.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
We can do that.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
We're just getting started. Oh my goodness, I just found
out from Todd there will be a Rhyme Time coming.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
Up, Valentine's Day edition of Rhyme Time. Can you only
have a good idea to when we make it a
round of them?

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Can you give the audience just a sample because they're
gonna have to plan their morning accordingly. We could do that, right, Okay, okay,
just explain, give us an example of rhyme time, just
so people can say, you clear my calendar, Sally, I'm
gonna be waiting for rhyme time.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
I'm gonna give you two words or phrases, and the
answers for those clues rhyme with one another.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
So for example, we would have.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
Money a thing for her, quiet, money a thing for her,
and that answer would.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Be hush, crush, hush crush.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Good job, Seaton.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
See how easy how it is. That's it, that's nailed.
That's how we rolled today.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
That have seventeen others on this so we got this show.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Okay, just to let the audience know, this was a
homework assignment that PAULI gave to Fritzie about thirty five
minutes ago. And you've you came up with eighteen of
the rhymetimers. So now we're down to seventheen, all right, Great.

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Speaker 2 (16:37):
That's Covino and Rich, head coach of the Minnesota Vikings
and the NFL Coach of the Year, Kevin O'Connell joining us.
Didn't I tell you were going to be the Coach
of the Year the last time you were on.

Speaker 8 (16:51):
You called it, Dan, You absolutely called your shot and I.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Didn't get a shout out. I didn't get a shout
out that night when you were accepting your award.

Speaker 9 (17:02):
Let me, I'm gonna throw you on the list of
folks that I've heard that from. And whether it's Doohn McVay,
Damn Patrick, you would you would not believe that. But you,
I'm sure you would know with all the hardware that
you've earned over the over illustrious career, about those threats

(17:24):
you get to the folks from Hey, you you know
when you hear the music, just know you better get
off the stage because the armed guards are coming after
that and they're gonna escort you right off, so you
better keep it tight.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Where's your award?

Speaker 9 (17:40):
I actually don't have it yet. They they take it
back from you. It's the award you cherish. You're so
excited to have it, and then somebody takes it back
and says, we'll send it to you. I didn't know
if that was you know, them saying there could be
a recount for something. But no, I'm hoping to get
it soon.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Where did you watch the Super Bowl?

Speaker 9 (18:02):
I actually made it, made it back home to Minneapolis.
I always like watching it with my with my kids.
My two boys love watching football, So I made it
back and watched the game at home.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Are you watching as a dad or a coach?

Speaker 8 (18:20):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (18:20):
The second that ball gets kicked off, I was watching
as a coach, just knowing. You know, obviously Andy Reid
his staff's bags like, I got so much respect for them.
I was fascinated to see kind of how Vic Fangio
would decide to play against that offense and Patrick and
just the unique little things that take place in a game.

Speaker 8 (18:45):
You know.

Speaker 9 (18:45):
The funny thing is that that game gets two weeks
of coverage, and having coached in it in twenty twenty one,
you look back on it and it's always these small,
impactful plays normally that have such magnified impacts on the game,
and it's all it's all it's all rhythm of the game,
it's all momentum. But when you know, you get a

(19:07):
performance out of a front like like what Philly's front
was able to do, that can be such an equalizer.
And we've seen that over you know, I even think
back to when I was going through the draft process.
I was in Arizona and and and watched that Giants
versus Patriots kind of perfect team. I inevitably was drafted

(19:27):
by that Patriots team after that. But just what a
defensive front can do to equalize a game and the
greatness and in many ways of an offense can be
neutralized like Philly was able to do.

Speaker 8 (19:39):
It was remarkable.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
But a defensive philosophy going in to Patrick Mahomes is
we're not going to blitz. I mean, that's pretty amazing.
I would think that you're comfortable with your four and
then I mean, if you do the math, that's a
great advantage for the Eagles defense and their secondary if
for can get there. And uh, and it certainly looked

(20:03):
like Mahome he didn't get uncomfortable very often, but he
was uncomfortable in the pocket. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (20:08):
And I think Dan, like historically you've seen a lot
of teams with strong fronts, like that's the game plan, right,
try to maximize your coverage. You've got Travis Kelce, you've
got some you know, speed and and and d Hop
and different skill players, and you're really kind of daring
them to be able to, you know, overcome your four

(20:30):
man pass rush, and then are they you know, they
always do a really good job running the football both
under center out of a gun, but you've historically seen
that and the problem is when that game plan doesn't
have success, Uh, then Andy Reid and Patrick Maholmes, they
know what's coming. So now the pressure will start showing
up the five six man blitzes, and that's when they

(20:51):
have made a lot of plays to create the dynasty
that they are at that point.

Speaker 8 (20:56):
So it's a it's an.

Speaker 9 (20:58):
Aggressive strategy and a lot of ways because you're setting
yourself up. If they're able to move the football against
that four man Russian seven man coverage, you're gonna have
to kind of show your cards from there. And those
are some pretty world class people to do that against.
So when it does work and it is effective, now
it's about can you sustain it long enough and also

(21:19):
play I have the right kind of offense on the
other side, which they certainly do with Saquon and Jalen
Hurts and those receivers all behind that offensive line. It
was impressive night for the Eagles, for sure.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
The NFL Coach of the Year Kevin O'Connell of the Vikings.
Can you play this what if can you play this hypothetical?
If JJ McCarthy doesn't get injured, who is your starting
quarterback this past season?

Speaker 8 (21:46):
Well, I would say this, Dan.

Speaker 9 (21:47):
We had just seen JJ, you know, play in his
first preseason game. There was a lot of positive things
on that tape that you know, left us as a
coaching staff saying, you know, we absolutely need to see
this thing through to the end of training camp. But
at the same time, everybody, and rightly so, everybody was
talking about JJ as the first round pick and exciting

(22:10):
young player. We're fired up to have an organization. Sam
Darnold was having a really good camp and it was
showing up day in and day out. You know, It's
it's one thing to you know, go to training camp
practice every day, but when those guys are competing against
Brian Flores in that defense, it's not exactly you know,
standard defense that you're going to be able to say.

(22:31):
You know, your quarterbacks really haven't been in stressful environments yet,
so we need to get to the games our quarterbacks.
You know, over since flow has gotten here, they can't
wait for those preseason games to come because what.

Speaker 8 (22:44):
They're going up against every every single day in practice.

Speaker 9 (22:47):
So I love the fact that flow pushes us all
to be better and our quarterbacks get to be in
a massively stressful environment every day, which only helps competitions
and helps you figure.

Speaker 8 (22:59):
Out what you have.

Speaker 9 (23:01):
But I would I would argue that I think both
guys would have continued on through and I would I
would probably say, you know, Sam Donald would have been
our starting quarterback just out of the experience and knowing
that I am very much constantly aware of the minute
to minute, hour to hour, day to day development of quarterbacks.

(23:22):
It's very important to me that I take the personal
ownership and accountability to what that position ultimately feels for
me from a support structure, but also coaching Josh McCown
in the quarterback room, Wes Phillips Hays our offensive coordinator.

Speaker 8 (23:38):
We've got a pretty good setup.

Speaker 9 (23:41):
Around these guys that we feel like if we just
invest in the daily, we're going to get positive results
and these guys are going to be kind of building
themselves up to the opportunity to go have success playing
in NFL games.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
When do you make your decision of the team makes
its decision on Sam Donald.

Speaker 8 (24:00):
Yeah, it's you know, it's an ongoing process right now. Dan.

Speaker 9 (24:03):
We we're very proud of what Sam was able to accomplish.

Speaker 8 (24:07):
I mean, it's hard to win.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Are you planning on him being there next season?

Speaker 8 (24:12):
Yeah, that's people to let me finish. I'm sorry, I
just know, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 9 (24:17):
But the idea is this, We're you know, we're we're evaluating,
you know, how we're going to move forward and put
the best possible team together in twenty twenty five and beyond.

Speaker 8 (24:28):
We know, we're excited about JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 9 (24:30):
He confirmed a lot of the things in a very
short amount of time that we had hoped to see
from him before unfortunately getting hurt. And then Sam, you know,
took advantage of his opportunity and has really put himself
as probably the premier player at the position going into
free agency, and Sam's going to have some opportunities. We're

(24:51):
working through what that looks like for us, while also
having some other real impactful players set to be free
agents as well, so.

Speaker 8 (24:59):
I think a lot goes into it. We haven't made
that decision yet.

Speaker 9 (25:02):
I talked to really all three, you know, both JJ's
here every day, but I talked to Sam yesterday for
a long time, talk to Daniel Jones for a long time.
I just want those guys to know that there's an
element in this where our relationship matters. The communication between
me and those guys has to be paramount, and the

(25:23):
agents in our front office. Those conversations will go on,
but what we try to build here is something that
I hope is always beyond that. Above that, especially me
personally with the players.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
If we did a combine for the head coaches in
the NFC North, who would grade out better?

Speaker 8 (25:42):
Are we talking all events here?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah? One morning bench press, cone, drill, you three cone
and drill.

Speaker 8 (25:51):
Well, I think we all know who's winning the bench press.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Okay, so we take that off the table with Dan Campbell.

Speaker 9 (25:57):
Yeah, And you know I would I would probably argue
Dan that, uh you know, I would be pretty competitive
in uh, you know, the straight line stuff running wise,
you know, I think I would put my I would
put Matt Lafleur in that McVeigh category. These guys are
more of those change of direction, short area quickness, those

(26:20):
types of things.

Speaker 8 (26:21):
So maybe maybe he gets gets me there.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
But I don't know about Ben Johnson. Is he sneaky athletic.
I don't know much about.

Speaker 8 (26:29):
You know, one of the things I'm always doing dan
pregame is I'm always watching who's throwing throwing the pill
around the field, because that's probably the big ball.

Speaker 9 (26:38):
Biggest mistake I ever made was hiring Josh McCown because
he can he can still throw it and probably could
go play in a game right now. So I didn't
really think that all through when you know, I started
throwing some wobblers around a pregame.

Speaker 8 (26:51):
But I'm smart.

Speaker 9 (26:52):
Indoors Stadium a US Bank stadium, elite place to throw
the football. We played in London and it was kind
of spitting ring in a little bit. I didn't touch
a football for that entire warm up. Very smart, you
know some other it was Wendy and Wendy kind of
spitting rain in Jacksonville. There was not a football near
me for that entire time. So I'm I've learned to

(27:12):
pick my spots in my moments to shine.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I saw there was an award handed out and went
to the best looking coach in the NFL. You finished
that one, You finished second. I think I think Lafloor,
I think Lafloor got you.

Speaker 8 (27:30):
I would argue though, like if we could have a
little bit of a campaign for that, and and you know,
I think I think he puts a little bit more
time and effort into what I do.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Okay, who puts who puts more time and effort into
their looks? Sean McVay, Matt Lafloor, well other.

Speaker 9 (27:51):
It's different, right because I think I think Sean probably
has like a four step process that finishes with that
hair looking the way it does. You know, I respect
Matt because he changes up his game sometimes sometimes it's
a hat, sometimes it's not. But as far as as
far as facial hair goes, you know, nobody keeps it

(28:12):
cleaner than Matt.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I think Matt Lafleur tweezes. I think there's some eyebrow
work being done there.

Speaker 9 (28:19):
I thought I thought the guys were gonna hit the
breaking news right there.

Speaker 8 (28:24):
You know, though, I thought I was gonna do something.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
I don't know what you can do in the off
season to win this award.

Speaker 8 (28:34):
Yeah, my wife's got a few ideas. Something.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
You don't show the hair though, because I don't.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
Have that much of it left. I mean, this job's
taking it.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Out of it Laflora and McVeigh show it off. They
you know, McVeigh has good moss though. I mean, you
got to admit he's he's.

Speaker 9 (28:53):
One of my closest friends, you know, on on on
the planet. And I told I got a chance to
spend some time with them down in the Orleans and
I told my sons that, hey, I saw coach Sean
and they immediately started, you know, the hair, and he's
been an inspiration to them. And they they always asked me,

(29:14):
why why don't I make my hair look like that?

Speaker 8 (29:16):
And I just shake my head.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
But did Sean, like he had the Super Bowl ring?
Do you need to wear the Super Bowl ring?

Speaker 8 (29:24):
You know what, when you win one as a head coach,
I think you can wear just about any time you want.

Speaker 9 (29:29):
I know when when Coach Belichick, which was how wild
was that that the guy that drafted me in the
NFL hands me the award? But you know, as he
as they handed it to me and we were walking
off the stage, you know it was you know, I
bumped into him and it just clanked against about four
or five of those rings. So I wanted to make
sure it wasn't scuffed up or anything.

Speaker 8 (29:51):
I mean it was. It was spectacular.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Enjoy the off season, big decisions coming up and congratulations again.

Speaker 8 (30:00):
Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me on. Always enjoy
it man.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
That's Kevin O'Connell's second best looking coach of the NFL.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Heidi Gardner. She's a Saturday Night Live cast member and
a die hard Chiefs fan. The SNL fiftieth Anniversary special
Sunday at eight Eastern on NBC and Peacock. Heidi is
also in the Apple TV comedy Shrinking plays the character Grace.
Harrison Ford and Jason Siegel are in that Heidi joins

(30:39):
us now. When I told Fritzy to reach out and
have you join us, this was before the Super Bowl,
and I know you're a big Chiefs fan and we
thought you were going to be in a great mood.
So what kind of mood are you in?

Speaker 7 (30:54):
Okay, I am in a mood where I am very
fortunate and blessed. We won two years in our row.
We've won three times in the last six years. Very Lucky.
Sunday was really hard. I love the Chiefs. The only
thing I'm upset about are some of these false narratives
after the fact that you know, like Mahomes's legacy is

(31:16):
questioned like that is crazy to me. The fact that
some people are saying that the Chiefs had already copyrighted
three pete and that was like the motivation for the Eagles.
Like I love bulletin board material, we use it. But
I can assure you all season there was no chief
or coach read it was saying anything about three pete.

(31:38):
I feel like they were trying to ignore that noise.
Of course, it's in your head. And I just want
to say, at the beginning of the season, a lot
of people were talking smack on the Eagles and that
they had lost it. They were talking this last year.
They were talking it on Jalen Hurts, and now it's
just like they were always the inevitable team. I'm just
a little frustrated and I needed to get all that out.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Did you cry Sunday.

Speaker 7 (32:03):
No, I didn't cry. I think my job as a
Chiefs fan is just to give them love and hope,
and I just continued to try and love and hope
us into a win and it didn't happen, and I
love them all the same.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
When did you begin your love affair with the Kansas
City Chiefs growing up in Kansas City?

Speaker 7 (32:20):
Yeah, so I was born there, so it was faded.
But my mom has just always been a sports fan,
and it was probably like around five and a half
or six years old. I just accepted that on Sundays
we were going to be watching football like that, and
I needed to embrace that because I loved my mom
and that was the thing that I needed to learn
how to love to.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Okay, but this fandom, though, now it's with you the
rest of your life.

Speaker 7 (32:46):
Oh yeah, and I still consider it a blessing, even
though it takes over my persona and my anxiety quite
a bit, but I love it.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Did you talk to Taylor Swift when she was on
Saturday Night Life? Well, so I.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
Had talked to her pre her becoming a Chiefs fan,
so I haven't gotten to connect with her since, but
I would love to talk Chiefs with her.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Feels like it's inevitable her and Travis are going to
get engaged. I mean, I love love. I'm rooting for
love is what I'm rooting for me too.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
I'm rooting for Love. I was scared in the beginning
because like as a fan first, like I love both
those people, but I was like, is this going to
be a distraction? But it's been all good and I
love Love and I love that like she's brought even
more eyes on our team.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Are you a competitor the way an athlete is with
whatever roles you have on SNL or when you're you know,
doing other shows, for sure?

Speaker 7 (33:46):
I Mean I always say that I played sports growing up,
and the only one of the only reasons I wish
I would have continued on is because I wish I
had like the total discipline of an athlete. But I
will say recently work, there's a few times when I've
gotten thrown things where I have to go perform with
no rehearsal, and that is scary. I mean, it's live anyways,

(34:09):
but if I haven't had a rehearsal and they're just
like you're in this now or you're doing this now,
and I'm like, you know, I want to come back
and be like, we didn't even do a rewriter, we
didn't do this, And I just think to myself, what
would mahomes do he would play.

Speaker 8 (34:23):
So that's what I do.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Heidi Gardner's Saturday Night Live cast member. So it's actors, comedian, writer,
die Hard chiefs fent is that the order.

Speaker 7 (34:33):
Yes, I mean you can always move Diehard Chiest to
the top. That is like the thing that has stayed consistent.
That's probably my number.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
One fiftieth anniversary special Sunday, February sixteenth at eight Eastern.
That'll be NBC and Peacock. Also, you play Grace in
the Apple TV Shrinking then you push your boyfriend off
a cliff.

Speaker 8 (34:55):
I did.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, how was that?

Speaker 7 (34:58):
It felt good? He was a jerk coming, Yes, he
had it coming.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
What was the first sketch you did where you go
uh oh uh oh in a good way or oh
in a bad way?

Speaker 7 (35:12):
Oh in a good way? Was I did a weekend
update and the character was every boxer's girlfriend from every
movie about boxing ever, And that one just connected with
the audience, and I think people were like, oh, yeah,
that's a trope. I see the girlfriend in a boxing
movie or the wife always has the exact same script. Yeah,

(35:35):
and that and I just I got a lot of feedback,
And that's the first time I started like people would
recognize me and they would say like a catchphrase, and
they go.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
I'm going to my sisters. Yes, yeah, is that like
you walked in the streets of New York. What do
you get?

Speaker 7 (35:51):
I get that. You know. What's cool is I think
because SNL is such an institution here and it's been
around for so long, it feels like a sports team.
So people New Yorkers actually, instead of like necessarily calling
out a sketch or anything, they just are like, go, Heidi,
go like I'm me Yankee or something like cool, I'm

(36:13):
on the team.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
What was your dress? What your audition?

Speaker 7 (36:17):
Like, Oh my gosh, well it was on I just
feel like I have to relate everything to sports. You're
not pushing me into that.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
But it was on.

Speaker 7 (36:27):
August twenty third, So I put a picture of Lebron
and Michael Jordan on my phone to just be like
twenty three greatness, So I remember that from it. And
then it was five minutes and I think I did
about twelve characters because I wanted to be undeniable. I
wanted to give them everything I had. But it was
also my first time ever seen that SNL stage in person,

(36:51):
so it was also just like I stepped on it
and I wanted to be like, can I take a selfie?
And they were like, and your audition is five four three,
And then suddenly it was happening. So I kind of
blacked out. And then a week later they called me.
They said we wanted to come back. I blacked out,
but I did the audition. They said, we wanted to
come back and do the audition another audition, but this

(37:13):
time it has to be totally new one. We want
to see if she can, oh well, ceial in a week.
And I was like, I gave you like my stars,
and so my second audition was like me rifling through
old sketches and characters. And I always say like my
second audition was like me playing my bench and then

(37:34):
I won the game.

Speaker 8 (37:36):
Who's Cool?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Sandler and Will Ferrell, you know, they talk about how
it gets kind of cold in there, you know, in
a variety of ways where you know there's no ambiance
really like Lauren can be out there and you don't
even know if he's there's no reaction or any like,
how do you know when you're doing well in your audition?

Speaker 8 (37:56):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (37:57):
I actually think it's the type of person you are possibly.
I mean I did hear laughs. I don't know if
I heard Lauren's laugh, but like it's warm enough where
I mean, anybody who's auditioning this funny and I think
you're gonna hear some laughs, but you don't know, you know,
if it's enough laughs to get the job. I remember

(38:17):
leaving the audition and having the anxiety start to set in,
and there were a couple guys outside who had also
just auditioned, and they approached me and they were like, so,
did you kill it? And I was like, I don't.
I I don't know, did you And they were like.

Speaker 8 (38:34):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
So I was like, Okay, I think it's just who
you are. It's like you might have that inner confidence.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Okay, give me your ideal hope. I'm going to let
you create your own show from the standpoint of your
guest host is going to be and your musical guest
will be who you can pick anybody ooh.

Speaker 7 (38:55):
Okay my guest host. I mean I do want I
got Travis Kelcey, I want Mahomes, I want my homes
or I want Lebron two debatable goats, but you know
those are ones that I really want and then music wise,

(39:16):
I mean I really liked the Kendrick halftime show. I'd
love to see him do whatever he wants on SNL
as well.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Okay, who do you think had a worse night, Mahomes
or Drake?

Speaker 7 (39:33):
Drake.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
I think that that's pretty bad. That's pretty bad when
the entire crowd is singing a song that's about you,
and he went as far away as possible he went
to Australia.

Speaker 7 (39:46):
Yes, yes, yeah, but again Mahomes really you know his
tweet after he likes to win, so I mean he
I feel his pain too.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Keep your head up though, honey. I hope something's good
or coming your way, thank you? Yeah. I mean, you know,
the Chiefs losing, so I hope something you know good
happens here, thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (40:08):
Life works that way. Then you know, maybe a big
movie or TV show it's coming my life?

Speaker 8 (40:14):
Do you think?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Do you have a big movie come in your way?

Speaker 9 (40:17):
No?

Speaker 7 (40:17):
But I'm looking for one or just some sort of
series that I get to create. I would love anything
like that.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Would you like for me to talk to Sandler?

Speaker 8 (40:28):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Okay, well we missed you and happy Gilmore too, But
I don't know what he's going to have but you
know what we get done with this. I think I'll
do that. I'll just say, hey, I know this person
down in the dumps chiefs lost needs to pick me up.

Speaker 7 (40:45):
How about the water boy, water Boy to water Daryl
Water GARYL We got it.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yes, have fun. Thank you again, Heidi, Thank you. Heidi Gardner.
Saturday Live cast member and Diehard Chief spent fiftieth anniversary
this Sunday on NBC and Peacock that's at eight Eastern,
And of course you can see her on the Apple
TV show Shrinking with Harrison Ford and Jason Siegel
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