March 10, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan reacts to the huge trades and signings in the NFL on the eve of the opening of the NFL’s Free Agent Legal Tampering Period. And NFL insider Judy Battista joins the show to break down what all these moves ultimately mean.
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Over the weekend, we will explore a little deeper. Judy Bautista,
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from now. Miles Garrett staying with Cleveland. The Raiders go
out and get Geno Smith, Josh Allen got a contract extension,
Steelers got DK metcamp, DeVante Adams goes to the Rams.
This is similar to opening Christmas gifts on Christmas Eve.
That's what yesterday was. This weekend was like today is Christmas.
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This is when the news is supposed to break. Noon
Eastern is when they can kind of make this all official.
We got Christmas gifts on Christmas Eve instead of Christmas Day. Hey,
I'm not complaining. There's some big news, big news items yesterday,
the Miles Garrett staying with Cleveland, Geno Smith going to
the Raiders, and I think we're looking at all these scenarios,
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and you go, why we knew Dk Metcalf wanted out,
but you're going to go to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh doesn't even
know who their quarterback is, or they might know, we
don't know yet. And we brought this up a couple
of weeks ago, Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers that possibility.
It's at least in the exploratory stage. From what I'm
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told that, they haven't ruled it out. And then I
saw where what's Russell Wilson going to do? What's Justin
Field's going to do? And then I saw a report
maybe Justin Fields to the Jets. Hasn't this young man
suffered enough? They shouldn't do that to him? But you
might be the starting quarterback. It's wild. It's like Seattle.
(04:08):
They said, yeah, we'll trade Geno Smith. Okay, well, Seattle
must know what they're doing if they just traded Geno
Smith and they've gotten rid of Tyler Lockett or they're
going to lose him. And then DK Metcalf as well,
And this is a team that won ten games last
year and you're going to trade Geno to Pete Carroll
and the Raiders, And does that preclude them from maybe
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going after Shador Sanders. Now I was told it wouldn't
that they could still see them drafting a quarterback. Now,
are you going to draft a quarterback in the top ten.
That's a little bit different if you're going to go
out and get Geno Smith. But Tom Brady's influence has
already had an impact there. Josh Allen gets an extension
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and if this helps them with salary cap relief, pushes
the contract down the road, eventually going to have to
pay him again. Do you get ahead of the market,
which you know, there's some teams that do and some
teams that don't. Dallas Cowboys don't, and it costs them
all the time. It's going to cost them with Michael Parsons.
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And Michael Parsons probably had a I'm going to guess
a celebration yesterday. I would have because all of a
sudden he looks at what Miles Garrett got to stay
in Cleveland and Michael Parsons is going to be asking
for something that begins with a four and not a three.
Jamar Chase probably had a really good day yesterday as well.
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He didn't do anything, but the Browns have said they're
going to make him the highest paid non quarterback. Why
they said this, I don't know why they have not
done this, I don't know, but it's going to cost you.
If the guy is great, then pay him.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Okay, there's a band aid and it might hurt a
little bit, but boy down the road, I'd rather have
a band aid than need stitches. And that's what's happening
with the Cincinnati Bengals and the Dallas Cowboys. Is Jamar
Chase as much of a sure thing in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
In the entries?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yes, this is exactly what you wanted out of a
player that you drafted that high to be great. Now
pay him. Pay that to me on his meney. And
then with Michael Parsons, pay him. Remember when TJ. Watt
getting thirty million, We're like, man, what is going on
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in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
That seems like the old days? It wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And then Miles Garrett, Okay, I know a little more
about this than I'm allowed to talk about. But Miles Garrett,
you know, talking about staying in Cleveland, didn't want to
stay in Cleveland. He had Now let's go back to
when he had his statement during the Super Bowl. As
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a kid dreaming of the NFL, all I focused on
was the ultimate goal of winning a Super Bowl, and
my goal fuels me today more than ever. I've loved
calling this city my home. My desire to win and
compete on the biggest stages won't allow me to be complacent.
The goal was never to go from Cleveland to Canton.
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It's always been to compete and win a Super Bowl.
With that in mind, I've requested to be traded from
the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
O WHOA, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
This And once again I got to be careful in
what I'm going to tell you. That spent twenty minutes
with somebody yesterday and because I was like, boy, that
was a big turnaround. Well, Cleveland wasn't fielding trade offers
or they didn't get blown away by anybody. And I
think what happened is Miles Garrett's representatives probably said, hey,
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they're not going to trade you. I mean, you can't
be the GM who signs Deshaun Watson and then trades
away Miles Garrett. Like that's not good on your resume.
I think Cleveland was pretty steadfast. They were not going
to trade him. They said they weren't going to trade him,
and we thought, well, they have to trade him. I
think what happened is it was basically, Okay, what can
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we pay you so you want to stay here? And
it got to forty million dollars. I think that's really
what's happening here. Miles Garrett wanted to go someplace else.
They didn't get blown away by a deal, and then
therefore he had to basically say, Okay, I'm going to stay,
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but what are you going to pay me? Because I
think he also said, hey, this isn't about being the
highest paid player in the league, which I didn't buy
even if he went to someplace else.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
But I think that's what happened in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Once again, I gotta be careful in what I'm saying,
because I got information yesterday that there's more to the
story that I'm not allowed to tell you about. I
have to wait and let the process kind of play
out here.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Yes, poone, but the common reaction is what changed for
Miles Garrett Because they didn't add some star players in
the past two months to bolster that team and make
them more competitive, They're still the Browns.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So well, he couldn't do anything about it right, like
he he. I don't think he wanted to stay there.
I think that they gave him an offer that will
satisfy him, and they were, you know, adamant, they weren't
going to trade him. I don't know if he goes yeah,
you know what. On second though, I think we can
win at all. I think we can be competitive. I
think he's just being honest that I did want to go.
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I can't go. I'm staying now. You know, make me
the highest paid non quarterback in the league. So he
can save face as well, you know, because we'll eventually
move on from this.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Right now it's like, oh yeah, great, you said you
were going to You wanted to be with a contender,
somebody could compete for Super Bowl. Cleveland's roster hasn't really
changed that much. That's what I was told. That Miles
did want to leave, they were not going to trade him.
They were not blown away. And then I think both parties,
how do we make this work moving forward? And that's
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how he ended up at forty million dollars. But Gino
Smith's situation, I like it for the Raiders because now
you have somebody who can play quarterback and You're in
a division that is the most competitive division in football. Now,
you got to at least every Sunday know that your
quarterback gives you a chance. And maybe Geno Smith is
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a B level quarterback, but that's okay. You got Rock Bowers,
you got Max Crosby, you got a chance in the
draft to get somebody. I'm told that they're going to
get Ashton Genty told that yesterday. Now once again I
can tell you things that are you know, what are
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we five weeks out from the draft? A month out
from the draft. Things will change. But I'm trying to
understand the philosophy of I don't know what Seattle's doing
because that's a clearance sale. And are you going to
go get Sam Darnald so you get a younger quarterback
doesn't mean he's a better quarterback. In fact, I would
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probably still I would take Geno Smith over Sam Darnald,
especially the way Seattle plays. You know, it's a ball control,
grinded out makes you know, a couple of plays, and
Gino has played well, But the Raiders got a quarterback
that they can count on and they haven't had that
for a little while. As for Seattle, I'm not sure
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if is this a rebuild or reload. That front office
has always been great. They find talent and that's a
division you can win. That's what surprised me. They could
have just stayed with what they had there. Now DK Metcalf,
I've said before he should be a whole lot better.
Every time I see him, I see Dez Bryant without
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the resume, and maybe this helps him. But I can't
imagine George Pickens and DK Metcalf being happy with, Hey,
you got four targets today, how.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
About our running game?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Like now, if you get Aaron Rodgers, Okay, then I
could see where that would be a little more interesting.
I think the Rams had an unbelievable day because you're
going to get Cooper Cup's salary off the books and
you bring in Davonte Adams, And I always want to
know how far out do you think the Rams go?
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You know, we're going to get rid of Cooper Cup.
Who can we get Now you start going, okay, what
are the Jets going to do with Davante? But that's
when you make a phone call. These things don't happen
in the span of you know, six hours, twelve hours.
I know there's the legal tampering, which I still find
amazing that it's like jumbo shrimp. Wait, doesn't make sense
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legal tampering. Why do we even call it legal tampering?
But DeVante Adams going there, Matthew Stafford's got to be thrilled.
So you've got DeVante Adams and Puku Nakua. You got
a good running game, you got our young defense. You know,
you get Matthew Stafford back. They the Rams are in
great shape, great shape, but there's teams that didn't do anything.
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What are the Giants doing? What are the Giants doing?
Are you going all in to get cam Wore? Because
is Justin Fields going to be Plan B?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I don't know? Or is Justin Fields going to the Jets?
What are the Jets doing?
Speaker 7 (13:58):
So?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Is Russell Wilson in him?
Speaker 7 (14:00):
This?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
And the Steelers?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I'm guessing you get like you have two quarterbacks, but
you don't feel like you have one quarterback you got
you just traded for g Like if I'm dk Metcalf,
the first thing I say is.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well, who's going to be quarterback?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Hey, I'm glad you're gonna give me one hundred and
fifty million dollars. But who's going to be the quarterback here?
That's the big question there. And can Aaron Rodgers fit
in with the Steelers if that would happen. Kind of wild,
kind of wild, yes, John.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
And you're still hearing that buzz even up until this weekend.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
Giants Vikings for Aaron Rodgers, it's all over the place.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Right now with him. Yeah, I thought that.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
The Vikings basically said it, JJ McCarthy, you'll be our
starting quarterback. And then I saw a where, well, he's
coming back from a devastating injury. He might not be
ready to go, and that's why you reach out to
Aaron Rodgers. I'm not quite sure. But if i'm deating,
you know, uh JJ McCarthy, I probably think I'm going
to be the starter. But if you're Aaron Rodgers, he
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in his mind he's still a starter. It may not
be reality, but it may be. Hey, you want to
be the starting quarterback for the Giants for one year,
thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Or take your chances elsewhere. Yeah, it's almost like.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
The Vikings were too competitive last year to start developing
a quarterback. They were surprisingly competitive because of Donald. They
may move on from Darnald, but now they have to
replace him with a guy who can help them win
the division. Now, it's a weird place to be if
they were under five hundred last year they finished under
five hundred. Move on to JJ McCarthy, calmly, but it's
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like they're weirdly competitive.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah. Yes, time and social media has been having fun
with the far of comparison.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
You play for the Packers or go to the Jets
and at them the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Oh boy, you say you can't do it, but he
can do it. Yeah, he didn't care. All right, we'll
take a break, we'll talk to Judy Battis to NFL
Network Insider, and we'll come up with a poll question today.
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question duties. How about our one pole question?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
All right, Dan our one poll? Who had the best weekend?
Excluding Josh Allen okay, Gina Smith, Miles Garrett, DK metcalf A,
Davonte Adams okay?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Well, I would say Miles Garrett because of what he's
getting paid, but he still has to get paid playing
for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Yes, Paul DeVante Adams at this juncture, his career goes
to a competitive team, big market and a drop back
timing quarterback that's perfect for him.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Judy Batista, senior national columnist, co host of The Insiders
on NFL Network. Let me start there, Judy, who had
the best weekend?
Speaker 10 (18:15):
I would say Devonte Adams as well. He got I
think more than many people thought he was going to get.
Speaker 11 (18:22):
He's with a.
Speaker 10 (18:22):
Team very much on the rise. I mean they are
way ahead of schedule. He gets to stay in California,
where he's from.
Speaker 11 (18:32):
I think he had the best weekend because, as you
put it perfectly, Miles.
Speaker 10 (18:36):
Garrett just for the cash alone, but he's staying with
a team that we now know he didn't want to
be with just a few days ago.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Why didn't Cleveland get an offer that could at least
have them budge off this stance of we're not going
to trade Miles Scarett.
Speaker 10 (18:51):
I don't think they ever even entertained the idea of
trading Miles Garrett. I listen, so much has gone wrong
for that team. Obviously, the Deshaun Watson deal was just
a catastrophe.
Speaker 11 (19:06):
That you can't trade your best player.
Speaker 10 (19:08):
I mean, he's not just their best player, this is
a Hall of Fame caliber player. He's arguably the best
defensive player in the league every year. You just can't
trade that guy. And if you're going to give your
fans anything to hang on to you, you can't trade
that guy. So unless they were somebody came to them with,
you know, we'll give you four number ones, which I
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don't think anybody was doing. Like, they just couldn't entertain anything.
And if we take them at their word, and I
think we can, because they were saying the same things
to teams that they were saying to reporters, they were
never trading him.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Is it irresponsible though of them that yes, this guy
is going you know, Cleveland to Canton. But maybe there's
a stop in between with Detroit or Washington or whoever.
Maybe somebody overpays to make you a bet. If I'm
Cleveland Browns fan, it's nice that I I'm going to
see him in uniform, But are we any better by
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having him in uniform instead of trying to get something
else to kind of restart this this franchise.
Speaker 10 (20:12):
I saw a lot of that online yesterday when the
deal happened, a lot of fans saying like, shouldn't we
have gotten the fall of draft picks? Draft picks are gambles, right,
you don't know how they're going to pan out. You
do know what this guy is going to do, right,
He's going to sack the quarterback fifteen times a season.
At least he is going to give you a chance
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to win. I think part of what kept him in Cleveland,
aside from the obvious the pile of.
Speaker 11 (20:41):
Money, is they sold to him on the idea that
they have a plan to be back right.
Speaker 10 (20:48):
They were in the playoffs only a couple of years ago, Like,
we're not you know, the roster is not completely barren.
Speaker 11 (20:54):
This is what we're going to do at quarterback.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
And I thinks as those things come to light, maybe
the decision will make a little bit more sense, you know.
I think he read the tea leaves and his representatives
read the tea leaves that they were never going to
trade him. I mean, Jimmy Haslam wouldn't even meet with
him and basically said, like, you know, go deal with
Andrew Berry. Don't try to come appealing to me for
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a trade. Go go talk to Andrew Berry.
Speaker 11 (21:21):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (21:22):
And I think they, you know, they came to the
conclusion like, you're not getting traded unless you are willing
to hold out and sacrifice, you know, a year's worth
of salary, because that's the only alternative.
Speaker 11 (21:34):
You need to come to grips with the fact that
you're not getting traded, So make the best deal you
can and try to figure out how you can be
happy here.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
What are the Seahawks doing, That's a good question.
Speaker 10 (21:47):
It's hard to it's hard to really question John Schneider
because he's very, very good, you know, but certainly this
is a reset at the very least, moving Geno Smith.
You know, I always got the depression that maybe John Schneider,
he was always less committal about Geno Smith than maybe
the coaches were. Mike McDonald was at the combine only
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you know what was that two weeks ago saying like,
we love Geno Smith, He's definitely our quarterback. But I
always thought John Schneider was a little bit more reserved,
and it's I think it's a good move for Geno Smith.
Speaker 11 (22:20):
I think it's a fairly decent.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Move for the Seahawks, presuming that they already know who
their next quarterback is going to be. And it's hard
for me to imagine that a GM as good as
John Schneider with Trader starting quarterback without having a very
very strong idea of who the next guy is. So
I assume that that domino will fall as soon as
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the window opens today for.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Negotia, Yeah, I rarely question what the front office does
in Seattle. They're they're very buttoned up, they're very smart. Yes,
you know, if you're getting Sam Donold, Look, Gino is
an older, a little above average quarterback. It gives you
a little more stability with the Raiders competing in the
AFC West, but the NFC West is winnable. You won
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ten games, you know, you went toe to toe with
the Rams. The Niners are going to come back a
little bit. But That's what was surprising is you let
your receivers go and it just felt like a tag sale.
And I don't know, you know what that big grand
plant is Sam Donald going to be the answer? They're
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that sure that Sam Darnoald is their guy, right.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
I think they also want a running game, like I
think they just want to retool.
Speaker 11 (23:36):
Right, this is now a.
Speaker 10 (23:37):
Second year head coach who is now going to instead
of working with what was in place, is going to
start putting what he wants in place, right, the kind
of system he wants. I generally agree with the idea
that it's a much greater chance that you're going to
get worse at quarterback. Look, you already know what Geno
Smith is. Are you very very sure that Sam Darnold
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is going to repeat the kind of success with your
program that he had in an almost perfect situation with
the Vikings right where he had just all world weapons,
great coaching, he was protected. Well, so you got to
be really sure that that's going to translate. We'll see.
But again I hesitate to question John Schneider because they
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usually make the right motes at Seattle.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Who's going to be the quarterback of the Giants?
Speaker 11 (24:29):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know the answer.
Speaker 10 (24:31):
For a while, I thought all the pieces were lining
up that it was going to be Aaron Rodgers. I'm
still very curious to see what Aaron Rodgers market would be.
The fact that you know, nothing has been completed with
Aaron Rodgers makes you pause, and you know, as we
know from Rogers in the past, like he's he's deliberate, right,
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He's going to think about his options and explore his options,
and he's not going to be hasty. He certainly doesn't
want to make a bed decision here. But you know,
but if that falls through, what's the fallback plan for
the Giants?
Speaker 11 (25:09):
You know, I don't know, you know, would they be
in on Sam Donald?
Speaker 10 (25:14):
That's a that's a different kind of thing, you know,
Russell Wilson, that's a different.
Speaker 11 (25:19):
Kind of thing.
Speaker 10 (25:19):
I mean, I you know, when the Aaron Rodgers thing
started first bubbling up about the Giants connected to the Giants,
I think a lot of Giants fans I live in
New York, a lot of Giants fans walking for this is.
Speaker 11 (25:30):
Great, no way, come on.
Speaker 10 (25:32):
But when you slow down and think about it, like
there are not a ton of great options, like for
that kind of job right now, like the veteran guy
who's just the bridge guy. We're not talking about a
veteran guy like Sam Donald that you're going to have
for the next ten years.
Speaker 11 (25:47):
We're talking about a.
Speaker 10 (25:47):
Bridge to the next guy that presumably they're going to
try to draft this year. It's just there's not that
many of them, and Aaron Rodgers is the best of
the bunch late. I mean, you would rather have Aaron
Rodgers than Russell Wilson at this point, or Jamis Winston
or you know, Jimmy Garoppolo, like you know who else
is out there.
Speaker 11 (26:07):
So we'll see.
Speaker 10 (26:08):
I am curious to see what the rest of the
market would look like for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Judy Battista joining us on loan from NFL Network, co
host of The Insiders.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
What are the Steelers doing?
Speaker 10 (26:20):
The Steelers are loading up. I think the way last
season ended for the Steelers, where it was just clear
they didn't have enough firepower, enough offensive firepower to stay
with the top teams in the AFC that you know
that the offense really sad at the end.
Speaker 11 (26:37):
I think they are going to fix that.
Speaker 10 (26:39):
Don't forget they spent all of last year trying to
get a big time wide receiver.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Right.
Speaker 10 (26:44):
They were in on Brandon Ayuk, they were in on
DeVante Adams, they got Mike Williams. That didn't you know,
okay whatever, So this was like the long quest for
a receiver finally finally coming to an end and they
get DK Metcalf. To me, the thing is, are they
keeping George Pickens too? Because then you have Pickens and
DK Metcalf, which is pretty appealing for a quarterback, whoever
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the quarterback is. To me, it's amazing that they made
the deal for the star wide receiver without having any
quarterback under contract. I know, sort of the reverse, but
it's quite a good selling point if you have to
sell yourself on a quarterback.
Speaker 11 (27:20):
I mean, for instance, if I am a.
Speaker 10 (27:24):
Veteran quarterback with options and the Steelers are interested in me,
that's a pretty I mean, I know the weather is
tough and it's an extremely difficult.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
Division, but those are some pretty good weapons you'd be
thrown too.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
We tend to talk about this.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
It feels like on a yearly basis, there's certain teams
that are proactive. They're going to extend their star players.
They get ahead of the curve, the financial curve. Here
we are with Dallas and Micaeh Parsons, and here we
are with Jamar Chase. The Bengals could have signed Jamar
Chase a while ago, it feels like and Dallas could
have done the same thing. I mean, you'd be saved.
(27:58):
It's only going up. The longer you wait, the more
it's going to cost you. So I'm just trying to
understand the financial responsibility sensibility with both of these programs.
These franchises of they're great, pay them, don't wait to
pay them.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
I don't know, I don't know why they wait, but
I mean this last weekend we've seen the stark like
what happens when you wait? They waited, and now they
are Both teams are going to have to pay many,
many millions of dollars more, Which is great for the players,
Michael Carson. Good for Jamar Chase. They deserve they've earned it,
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go get it. But if you're the team that's trying
to move around the dollars, I mean, you have really
put yourself in a terrible spot. The Bangals did it
to them twice. First of all, they should have done
Jamar Chase last year. They were close. I believe they
got hung up on guaranteed money, which now you're like, ah,
I mean the market jumped so significantly, right. Nax Crosby
(29:00):
deal made him the highest paid non quarterback, you know,
by a little bit. Now the Miles Garrett makes him
by a lot. And the Bengals have said publicly that
they're going to make Jamar Chase the highest paid non quarterbacks,
So I mean they've got no wiggle room and now
that's going to be much more expensive.
Speaker 11 (29:20):
Same thing for Trey Hendrickson if they have any thoughts
of being able to keep him.
Speaker 10 (29:24):
Well, the market for pass rushers just took that big
leap too with Miles Garrett, so that's double trouble for them.
And then of course the Michael Carson's thing, which is, again,
why why do these teams wait? I don't know, but
they're going to pay much much more than they would
have if they had just been proactive and gotten it
done early. You always, if you're the team, you want
(29:44):
to be the first, right if you're the player, you
want to be the last because you want to top
the market. From the team point.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Of view, this was not good and I like what
Buffalo did they were proactive. This kind of came out
of nowhere with Josh Allen getting a new deal. But
it gives them flexibility, yes.
Speaker 10 (30:02):
Right, And you don't have to you don't have to
think about this and there's no The other thing about
waiting is it creates tension with the player, right, like,
which you should not want to do. If again, the
Bengals know they're keeping Jamar Chase, right, he is a superstar,
he's your guy, He's Joe Burrows guy. You can't let
him out of the building. Why would you ever want
(30:23):
to create tens with a player like that. So in
the case of Buffalo, I mean, obviously Josh Allen is
a stud, right, the MVP. Where would that franchise be
without him? Yeah, they were proactive. Let's make him happy,
keep him happy, like anything, anything to make him happy.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And it's like the Bengals are paying their taxes late.
The Cowboys pay their taxes late. They're not And once again,
they have to be pretty smart to get in the
position to be able to be an owner of a team.
But there are times when I just with Jerry Jones,
he did this with dak overpaid for DK see d
Lamb now you can look at ce Dee Lamb and say,
(31:02):
all right, they got a better deal with the you know,
wide receiving market. But Michael Parsons, you know, he's great,
Pay him, pay him, and because down the road these
other guys are going to get paid as well.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
But well, and the other thing, if I could just
add this, the other thing is when they when you
wait and it stretches throughout the off season, as we
saw happened with Dallas last year. Like the players admitted
it was a distraction, right like when you go down
to literally opening day for Dak Ruscott, right hours before
kickoff of the season. I mean they admitted it was
(31:36):
on their minds. And that's that's the last thing you
want for a team that's you know, considers themselves.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
In the mix.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Now they're all in, and that's what they are. The
Cowboys are all in. Great to busy with you again,
Thank you very much.
Speaker 11 (31:50):
Great to see you, Dan. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
That's Judy Batista, senior national columnist and co host of
the Insiders on NFL Network. Yeah, there are just certain teams,
certain moves, things that make you go, hmm, Michah Parsons
is going to cost you. We've said that this was
last year. I think we talked about the Cowboys were
in a a good ish but bad ish situation because
(32:15):
they were going to have to pay Dak CD Lamb
and Micah Parsons, all at the top of the pay
scale for their positions. If they are great, then pay them.
The same thing with the Bengals. Now you have to
pay Jamar Chase over forty million dollars. You could have
saved yourself four or five million dollars, but a year
(32:39):
add that up. Now, all of a sudden, you're saving
twenty million dollars that can help you in other areas
of your team.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Just don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yes, Marvin, it's like the beautiful girl that is way
too hot for you, and it's like, man, she's smart,
she's funny, she's into you.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I'm not sure if I want to marry you. So
what's the issue? I'm worried? Like, what's the issue? I've
got commitment issues?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, no, commit to Jamar Chase, commit to Micah Parsons,
or be committed for being crazy. All right, We'll take
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at thirty seven and a half percent.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, I get it. With Davante Adams. You know, you
go from the Jets and not quite sure was he
going to go back to Green Bay? Was there another
opportunity for him? The Rams swoop in and all of
a sudden they upgrade their roster. Rams have had a
good off season so far. Matthew Stafford coming back for
a couple of years. That's a young team. Aside from
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Matthew Stafford, Devonte Adams, that defense is really good. And
Miles Garrett, I don't think as much as he wanted
to leave, there was nothing he could do. If the
owner won't talk to you. He says, you talk to
the GM. He wants you to stay. The GM said
we're not trading you, and from what I was told,
they didn't receive anything of I think they thought they
(35:52):
were going this is what I was told, that they
were going to get a herschel Walker like hall for
Miles Garrett. Didn't get anything anything near that.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
I don't know. Maybe they didn't even take phone calls.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
But that's one of those where you got to save
face for Miles Garrett and it's like, hey, but we're
gonna make you the highest paid defensive player because he
did want to compete. I don't know what leverage he
had other than he was going to hold out Buddha
in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Hi, Buddha?
Speaker 5 (36:26):
What up? DP? Happy Monday boys? Every day it's a
super Bowl, Frittie. Let's go DP real quick? Left turning here.
Speaker 12 (36:36):
Last Thursday, you guys were talking about the deathbed confession.
So I called in on Friday to put a bow
on it, and I got nobody and Uh, as a
Dodger's fan, die hard Dan, I would be.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
Remiss if I didn't bring up the.
Speaker 12 (36:49):
Twenty seventeen Hugh Town Astros, especially jose Al.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Tub and Is don't tear my Jersey off situation. I mean,
that would just be Jersey to find find out about.
But I digress. They have best of the weekend.
Speaker 12 (37:02):
How relevant the NFL is, I mean, even in its
off season.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
It's it's like so impressive to see how much noise
it makes.
Speaker 12 (37:10):
I mean truly amazing, how many storylines there are and
moves there are to be made. Still, I mean, the
shield is strong and worst of the weekend in Miles Garrett,
I mean when he said it's not up, it's not
about the money. When I heard him say that, I
was like, I mean, it's all about the money, right,
I mean, and he needs to remind himself next year.
(37:32):
Dan around mid season, I'd say that he chose to
stay in Cleveland, which is going to be not good.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I don't know if he chose to stay. I want
to be fair to the situation. And as I said
a half hour ago, I have more information than I
can let on in this With this story, I promised
to source yesterday. But I don't think that they were
either fielding calls or got anything that was going to
(38:03):
blow them away. It doesn't mean that Miles Garrett didn't
want to go and play for a contender. It was
I don't think there was really the opportunity to be
able to go. And yes, it's about the money he
was going to get paid if he went someplace else.
But when they say it's not about the money, it's
about the money, Gus in La, I guess what's on
(38:24):
your mind?
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Good more than mister Patrick Hopere and the boys had
a good weekend. Well, you know, not too many best
for me this weekend. You know, we had our eight game.
Speaker 8 (38:34):
Losing streak ended by that team in Boston.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Lebron goes down, hopefully it's only one to two weeks,
and then my lady Trojans lose close to the you know.
Speaker 8 (38:46):
The buzzy yesterday to that team in Westwood.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Ucla.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
Had a good basketball weekend for me.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
It was fun.
Speaker 8 (38:53):
Though we've seen DK Metcalf comes to the Steelers. Best
of the weekend. I know it really wasn't the weekend.
But Thursday night I got to go to Staples Center
I still call it Staples Center, I don't call it
Crystal and watch the Lakers and Knicks. There's something different
about this team. Dave mcmannimon kind of touched on it
that there was something different, like every shot was just
(39:13):
electric through the building. Luca.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
It's all one hundred percent Luca, and it's brought fun
to this team. We haven't had fun with this team
in years, and it's brought a level of excitement to it.
I know that Charles Barkley and Kendrick Perkins are now
fighting like senior citizens at the Center about why the
NBA is relevant again.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
But hey man, it's fun being a fan in LA.
No offense to Cleveland in Oklahoma City, but no one's
watching you, guys, and it's because the Lakers right now.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Sorry you boys, have a great week.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't watch the Cleveland Cavaliers,
who have won fourteen in row. You may not find
them exciting. You may want to watch Luca and Lebron,
which I understand. Lebron injured is growing. Paulie thinks this
could be a good thing for Lebron. James, we'll have
that for you coming up. When Pauli goes, hey, Lebron's growing,
(40:06):
it's a good thing that he got hurt, I'm like, okay,
all right, I'll and listen to that. I had Friday off,
by the way, my wife got me a gift for
Christmas that we were going wine tasting, and so we
went outside of Santa Barbara, ran into some wonderful people.
Got to go to my favorite. I can't say it's
(40:27):
a winery because all they do is I got to
go out to where they grow the grapes and it's
a sea smoke. Now, what I found out was the sea.
It's really fog smoke, but the locals call it sea smoke,
and it's just this fog that comes in in the
morning off the ocean and it just blankets the grapes
(40:51):
and it creates a wonderful pino noir. But the people
were great. Ran into a lot of fans of the show.
Then I went to a fundraiser in Santa Barbara Saturday
night and it turned it was for first responders and
they did a wonderful job. Hooting The Blowfish was playing.
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Kenny Loggins was there, Michael McDonald was there. Who else
did I see? Benji Madden of Good Charlotte was there,
Miles Teller actor was there. Yeah, Oprah, Oprah was not there.
I was told that Prince Harry was going to be there.
(41:34):
I didn't see him. I was looking for Megan Marco.
I wasn't looking for Harry, but I didn't see either
one of them. But wonderful weekend in the Santa Barbara
Montecito area. One hour in the books, two more to
go on this Monday. More phone calls coming up after
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Drake.
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She'll join us, coming up here in about fifteen minutes
(02:39):
from now. Miles Garrett staying with Cleveland. The Raiders go
out and get Geno Smith, Josh Allen got a contract extension,
Steelers got DK metcamp, DeVante Adams goes to the Rams.
This is similar to opening Christmas gifts on Christmas Eve.
That's what yesterday was. This weekend was like today is Christmas.
(03:00):
This is when the news is supposed to break. Noon
Eastern is when they can kind of make this all official.
We got Christmas gifts on Christmas Eve instead of Christmas Day. Hey,
I'm not complaining. There's some big news, big news items yesterday,
the Miles Garrett staying with Cleveland, Geno Smith going to
the Raiders, and I think we're looking at all these scenarios,
(03:22):
and you go, why we knew Dk Metcalf wanted out,
but you're going to go to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh doesn't even
know who their quarterback is, or they might know, we
don't know yet. And we brought this up a couple
of weeks ago, Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers that possibility.
It's at least in the exploratory stage. From what I'm
(03:44):
told that, they haven't ruled it out. And then I
saw where what's Russell Wilson going to do? What's Justin
Field's going to do? And then I saw a report
maybe Justin Fields to the Jets. Hasn't this young man
suffered enough? They shouldn't do that to him? But you
might be the starting quarterback. It's wild. It's like Seattle.
(04:08):
They said, yeah, we'll trade Geno Smith. Okay, well, Seattle
must know what they're doing if they just traded Geno
Smith and they've gotten rid of Tyler Lockett or they're
going to lose him. And then DK Metcalf as well,
And this is a team that won ten games last
year and you're going to trade Geno to Pete Carroll
and the Raiders, And does that preclude them from maybe
(04:31):
going after Shador Sanders. Now I was told it wouldn't
that they could still see them drafting a quarterback. Now,
are you going to draft a quarterback in the top ten.
That's a little bit different if you're going to go
out and get Geno Smith. But Tom Brady's influence has
already had an impact there. Josh Allen gets an extension
(04:53):
and if this helps them with salary cap relief, pushes
the contract down the road, eventually going to have to
pay him again. Do you get ahead of the market,
which you know, there's some teams that do and some
teams that don't. Dallas Cowboys don't, and it costs them
all the time. It's going to cost them with Michael Parsons.
(05:15):
And Michael Parsons probably had a I'm going to guess
a celebration yesterday. I would have because all of a
sudden he looks at what Miles Garrett got to stay
in Cleveland and Michael Parsons is going to be asking
for something that begins with a four and not a three.
Jamar Chase probably had a really good day yesterday as well.
(05:36):
He didn't do anything, but the Browns have said they're
going to make him the highest paid non quarterback. Why
they said this, I don't know why they have not
done this, I don't know, but it's going to cost you.
If the guy is great, then pay him.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Okay, there's a band aid and it might hurt a
little bit, but boy down the road, I'd rather have
a band aid than need stitches. And that's what's happening
with the Cincinnati Bengals and the Dallas Cowboys. Is Jamar
Chase as much of a sure thing in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
In the entries?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yes, this is exactly what you wanted out of a
player that you drafted that high to be great. Now
pay him. Pay that to me on his meney. And
then with Michael Parsons, pay him. Remember when TJ. Watt
getting thirty million, We're like, man, what is going on
(06:35):
in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
That seems like the old days? It wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And then Miles Garrett, Okay, I know a little more
about this than I'm allowed to talk about. But Miles Garrett,
you know, talking about staying in Cleveland, didn't want to
stay in Cleveland. He had Now let's go back to
when he had his statement during the Super Bowl. As
(07:02):
a kid dreaming of the NFL, all I focused on
was the ultimate goal of winning a Super Bowl, and
my goal fuels me today more than ever. I've loved
calling this city my home. My desire to win and
compete on the biggest stages won't allow me to be complacent.
The goal was never to go from Cleveland to Canton.
(07:23):
It's always been to compete and win a Super Bowl.
With that in mind, I've requested to be traded from
the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
O WHOA, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
This And once again I got to be careful in
what I'm going to tell you. That spent twenty minutes
with somebody yesterday and because I was like, boy, that
was a big turnaround. Well, Cleveland wasn't fielding trade offers
or they didn't get blown away by anybody. And I
think what happened is Miles Garrett's representatives probably said, hey,
(07:59):
they're not going to trade you. I mean, you can't
be the GM who signs Deshaun Watson and then trades
away Miles Garrett. Like that's not good on your resume.
I think Cleveland was pretty steadfast. They were not going
to trade him. They said they weren't going to trade him,
and we thought, well, they have to trade him. I
think what happened is it was basically, Okay, what can
(08:25):
we pay you so you want to stay here? And
it got to forty million dollars. I think that's really
what's happening here. Miles Garrett wanted to go someplace else.
They didn't get blown away by a deal, and then
therefore he had to basically say, Okay, I'm going to stay,
(08:46):
but what are you going to pay me? Because I
think he also said, hey, this isn't about being the
highest paid player in the league, which I didn't buy
even if he went to someplace else.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
But I think that's what happened in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Once again, I gotta be careful in what I'm saying,
because I got information yesterday that there's more to the
story that I'm not allowed to tell you about. I
have to wait and let the process kind of play
out here.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Yes, poone, but the common reaction is what changed for
Miles Garrett Because they didn't add some star players in
the past two months to bolster that team and make
them more competitive, They're still the Browns.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So well, he couldn't do anything about it right, like
he he. I don't think he wanted to stay there.
I think that they gave him an offer that will
satisfy him, and they were, you know, adamant, they weren't
going to trade him. I don't know if he goes yeah,
you know what. On second though, I think we can
win at all. I think we can be competitive. I
think he's just being honest that I did want to go.
(09:45):
I can't go. I'm staying now. You know, make me
the highest paid non quarterback in the league. So he
can save face as well, you know, because we'll eventually
move on from this.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Right now it's like, oh yeah, great, you said you
were going to You wanted to be with a contender,
somebody could compete for Super Bowl. Cleveland's roster hasn't really
changed that much. That's what I was told. That Miles
did want to leave, they were not going to trade him.
They were not blown away. And then I think both parties,
how do we make this work moving forward? And that's
(10:21):
how he ended up at forty million dollars. But Gino
Smith's situation, I like it for the Raiders because now
you have somebody who can play quarterback and You're in
a division that is the most competitive division in football. Now,
you got to at least every Sunday know that your
quarterback gives you a chance. And maybe Geno Smith is
(10:45):
a B level quarterback, but that's okay. You got Rock Bowers,
you got Max Crosby, you got a chance in the
draft to get somebody. I'm told that they're going to
get Ashton Genty told that yesterday. Now once again I
can tell you things that are you know, what are
(11:06):
we five weeks out from the draft? A month out
from the draft. Things will change. But I'm trying to
understand the philosophy of I don't know what Seattle's doing
because that's a clearance sale. And are you going to
go get Sam Darnald so you get a younger quarterback
doesn't mean he's a better quarterback. In fact, I would
(11:26):
probably still I would take Geno Smith over Sam Darnald,
especially the way Seattle plays. You know, it's a ball control,
grinded out makes you know, a couple of plays, and
Gino has played well, But the Raiders got a quarterback
that they can count on and they haven't had that
for a little while. As for Seattle, I'm not sure
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if is this a rebuild or reload. That front office
has always been great. They find talent and that's a
division you can win. That's what surprised me. They could
have just stayed with what they had there. Now DK Metcalf,
I've said before he should be a whole lot better.
Every time I see him, I see Dez Bryant without
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the resume, and maybe this helps him. But I can't
imagine George Pickens and DK Metcalf being happy with, Hey,
you got four targets today, how.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
About our running game?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Like now, if you get Aaron Rodgers, Okay, then I
could see where that would be a little more interesting.
I think the Rams had an unbelievable day because you're
going to get Cooper Cup's salary off the books and
you bring in Davonte Adams, And I always want to
know how far out do you think the Rams go?
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You know, we're going to get rid of Cooper Cup.
Who can we get Now you start going, okay, what
are the Jets going to do with Davante? But that's
when you make a phone call. These things don't happen
in the span of you know, six hours, twelve hours.
I know there's the legal tampering, which I still find
amazing that it's like jumbo shrimp. Wait, doesn't make sense
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legal tampering. Why do we even call it legal tampering?
But DeVante Adams going there, Matthew Stafford's got to be thrilled.
So you've got DeVante Adams and Puku Nakua. You got
a good running game, you got our young defense. You know,
you get Matthew Stafford back. They the Rams are in
great shape, great shape, but there's teams that didn't do anything.
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What are the Giants doing? What are the Giants doing?
Are you going all in to get cam Wore? Because
is Justin Fields going to be Plan B?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I don't know? Or is Justin Fields going to the Jets?
What are the Jets doing?
Speaker 7 (13:58):
So?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Is Russell Wilson in him?
Speaker 7 (14:00):
This?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
And the Steelers?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I'm guessing you get like you have two quarterbacks, but
you don't feel like you have one quarterback you got
you just traded for g Like if I'm dk Metcalf,
the first thing I say is.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well, who's going to be quarterback?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Hey, I'm glad you're gonna give me one hundred and
fifty million dollars. But who's going to be the quarterback here?
That's the big question there. And can Aaron Rodgers fit
in with the Steelers if that would happen. Kind of wild,
kind of wild, yes, John.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
And you're still hearing that buzz even up until this weekend.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
Giants Vikings for Aaron Rodgers, it's all over the place.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Right now with him. Yeah, I thought that.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
The Vikings basically said it, JJ McCarthy, you'll be our
starting quarterback. And then I saw a where, well, he's
coming back from a devastating injury. He might not be
ready to go, and that's why you reach out to
Aaron Rodgers. I'm not quite sure. But if i'm deating,
you know, uh JJ McCarthy, I probably think I'm going
to be the starter. But if you're Aaron Rodgers, he
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in his mind he's still a starter. It may not
be reality, but it may be. Hey, you want to
be the starting quarterback for the Giants for one year,
thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Or take your chances elsewhere. Yeah, it's almost like.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
The Vikings were too competitive last year to start developing
a quarterback. They were surprisingly competitive because of Donald. They
may move on from Darnald, but now they have to
replace him with a guy who can help them win
the division. Now, it's a weird place to be if
they were under five hundred last year they finished under
five hundred. Move on to JJ McCarthy, calmly, but it's
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like they're weirdly competitive.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah. Yes, time and social media has been having fun
with the far of comparison.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
You play for the Packers or go to the Jets
and at them the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Oh boy, you say you can't do it, but he
can do it. Yeah, he didn't care. All right, we'll
take a break, we'll talk to Judy Battis to NFL
Network Insider, and we'll come up with a poll question today.
Your phone calls as always welcome any day, especially on Monday.
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question duties. How about our one pole question?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
All right, Dan our one poll? Who had the best weekend?
Excluding Josh Allen okay, Gina Smith, Miles Garrett, DK metcalf A,
Davonte Adams okay?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Well, I would say Miles Garrett because of what he's
getting paid, but he still has to get paid playing
for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Yes, Paul DeVante Adams at this juncture, his career goes
to a competitive team, big market and a drop back
timing quarterback that's perfect for him.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Judy Batista, senior national columnist, co host of The Insiders
on NFL Network. Let me start there, Judy, who had
the best weekend?
Speaker 10 (18:15):
I would say Devonte Adams as well. He got I
think more than many people thought he was going to get.
Speaker 11 (18:22):
He's with a.
Speaker 10 (18:22):
Team very much on the rise. I mean they are
way ahead of schedule. He gets to stay in California,
where he's from.
Speaker 11 (18:32):
I think he had the best weekend because, as you
put it perfectly, Miles.
Speaker 10 (18:36):
Garrett just for the cash alone, but he's staying with
a team that we now know he didn't want to
be with just a few days ago.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Why didn't Cleveland get an offer that could at least
have them budge off this stance of we're not going
to trade Miles Scarett.
Speaker 10 (18:51):
I don't think they ever even entertained the idea of
trading Miles Garrett. I listen, so much has gone wrong
for that team. Obviously, the Deshaun Watson deal was just
a catastrophe.
Speaker 11 (19:06):
That you can't trade your best player.
Speaker 10 (19:08):
I mean, he's not just their best player, this is
a Hall of Fame caliber player. He's arguably the best
defensive player in the league every year. You just can't
trade that guy. And if you're going to give your
fans anything to hang on to you, you can't trade
that guy. So unless they were somebody came to them with,
you know, we'll give you four number ones, which I
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don't think anybody was doing. Like, they just couldn't entertain anything.
And if we take them at their word, and I
think we can, because they were saying the same things
to teams that they were saying to reporters, they were
never trading him.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Is it irresponsible though of them that yes, this guy
is going you know, Cleveland to Canton. But maybe there's
a stop in between with Detroit or Washington or whoever.
Maybe somebody overpays to make you a bet. If I'm
Cleveland Browns fan, it's nice that I I'm going to
see him in uniform, But are we any better by
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having him in uniform instead of trying to get something
else to kind of restart this this franchise.
Speaker 10 (20:12):
I saw a lot of that online yesterday when the
deal happened, a lot of fans saying like, shouldn't we
have gotten the fall of draft picks? Draft picks are gambles, right,
you don't know how they're going to pan out. You
do know what this guy is going to do, right,
He's going to sack the quarterback fifteen times a season.
At least he is going to give you a chance
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to win. I think part of what kept him in Cleveland,
aside from the obvious the pile of.
Speaker 11 (20:41):
Money, is they sold to him on the idea that
they have a plan to be back right.
Speaker 10 (20:48):
They were in the playoffs only a couple of years ago, Like,
we're not you know, the roster is not completely barren.
Speaker 11 (20:54):
This is what we're going to do at quarterback.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
And I thinks as those things come to light, maybe
the decision will make a little bit more sense, you know.
I think he read the tea leaves and his representatives
read the tea leaves that they were never going to
trade him. I mean, Jimmy Haslam wouldn't even meet with
him and basically said, like, you know, go deal with
Andrew Berry. Don't try to come appealing to me for
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a trade. Go go talk to Andrew Berry.
Speaker 11 (21:21):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (21:22):
And I think they, you know, they came to the
conclusion like, you're not getting traded unless you are willing
to hold out and sacrifice, you know, a year's worth
of salary, because that's the only alternative.
Speaker 11 (21:34):
You need to come to grips with the fact that
you're not getting traded, So make the best deal you
can and try to figure out how you can be
happy here.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
What are the Seahawks doing, That's a good question.
Speaker 10 (21:47):
It's hard to it's hard to really question John Schneider
because he's very, very good, you know, but certainly this
is a reset at the very least, moving Geno Smith.
You know, I always got the depression that maybe John Schneider,
he was always less committal about Geno Smith than maybe
the coaches were. Mike McDonald was at the combine only
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you know what was that two weeks ago saying like,
we love Geno Smith, He's definitely our quarterback. But I
always thought John Schneider was a little bit more reserved,
and it's I think it's a good move for Geno Smith.
Speaker 11 (22:20):
I think it's a fairly decent.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Move for the Seahawks, presuming that they already know who
their next quarterback is going to be. And it's hard
for me to imagine that a GM as good as
John Schneider with Trader starting quarterback without having a very
very strong idea of who the next guy is. So
I assume that that domino will fall as soon as
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the window opens today for.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Negotia, Yeah, I rarely question what the front office does
in Seattle. They're they're very buttoned up, they're very smart. Yes,
you know, if you're getting Sam Donold, Look, Gino is
an older, a little above average quarterback. It gives you
a little more stability with the Raiders competing in the
AFC West, but the NFC West is winnable. You won
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ten games, you know, you went toe to toe with
the Rams. The Niners are going to come back a
little bit. But That's what was surprising is you let
your receivers go and it just felt like a tag sale.
And I don't know, you know what that big grand
plant is Sam Donald going to be the answer? They're
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that sure that Sam Darnoald is their guy, right.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
I think they also want a running game, like I
think they just want to retool.
Speaker 11 (23:36):
Right, this is now a.
Speaker 10 (23:37):
Second year head coach who is now going to instead
of working with what was in place, is going to
start putting what he wants in place, right, the kind
of system he wants. I generally agree with the idea
that it's a much greater chance that you're going to
get worse at quarterback. Look, you already know what Geno
Smith is. Are you very very sure that Sam Darnold
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is going to repeat the kind of success with your
program that he had in an almost perfect situation with
the Vikings right where he had just all world weapons,
great coaching, he was protected. Well, so you got to
be really sure that that's going to translate. We'll see.
But again I hesitate to question John Schneider because they
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usually make the right motes at Seattle.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Who's going to be the quarterback of the Giants?
Speaker 11 (24:29):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know the answer.
Speaker 10 (24:31):
For a while, I thought all the pieces were lining
up that it was going to be Aaron Rodgers. I'm
still very curious to see what Aaron Rodgers market would be.
The fact that you know, nothing has been completed with
Aaron Rodgers makes you pause, and you know, as we
know from Rogers in the past, like he's he's deliberate, right,
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He's going to think about his options and explore his options,
and he's not going to be hasty. He certainly doesn't
want to make a bed decision here. But you know,
but if that falls through, what's the fallback plan for
the Giants?
Speaker 11 (25:09):
You know, I don't know, you know, would they be
in on Sam Donald?
Speaker 10 (25:14):
That's a that's a different kind of thing, you know,
Russell Wilson, that's a different.
Speaker 11 (25:19):
Kind of thing.
Speaker 10 (25:19):
I mean, I you know, when the Aaron Rodgers thing
started first bubbling up about the Giants connected to the Giants,
I think a lot of Giants fans I live in
New York, a lot of Giants fans walking for this is.
Speaker 11 (25:30):
Great, no way, come on.
Speaker 10 (25:32):
But when you slow down and think about it, like
there are not a ton of great options, like for
that kind of job right now, like the veteran guy
who's just the bridge guy. We're not talking about a
veteran guy like Sam Donald that you're going to have
for the next ten years.
Speaker 11 (25:47):
We're talking about a.
Speaker 10 (25:47):
Bridge to the next guy that presumably they're going to
try to draft this year. It's just there's not that
many of them, and Aaron Rodgers is the best of
the bunch late. I mean, you would rather have Aaron
Rodgers than Russell Wilson at this point, or Jamis Winston
or you know, Jimmy Garoppolo, like you know who else
is out there.
Speaker 11 (26:07):
So we'll see.
Speaker 10 (26:08):
I am curious to see what the rest of the
market would look like for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Judy Battista joining us on loan from NFL Network, co
host of The Insiders.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
What are the Steelers doing?
Speaker 10 (26:20):
The Steelers are loading up. I think the way last
season ended for the Steelers, where it was just clear
they didn't have enough firepower, enough offensive firepower to stay
with the top teams in the AFC that you know
that the offense really sad at the end.
Speaker 11 (26:37):
I think they are going to fix that.
Speaker 10 (26:39):
Don't forget they spent all of last year trying to
get a big time wide receiver.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Right.
Speaker 10 (26:44):
They were in on Brandon Ayuk, they were in on
DeVante Adams, they got Mike Williams. That didn't you know,
okay whatever, So this was like the long quest for
a receiver finally finally coming to an end and they
get DK Metcalf. To me, the thing is, are they
keeping George Pickens too? Because then you have Pickens and
DK Metcalf, which is pretty appealing for a quarterback, whoever
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the quarterback is. To me, it's amazing that they made
the deal for the star wide receiver without having any
quarterback under contract. I know, sort of the reverse, but
it's quite a good selling point if you have to
sell yourself on a quarterback.
Speaker 11 (27:20):
I mean, for instance, if I am a.
Speaker 10 (27:24):
Veteran quarterback with options and the Steelers are interested in me,
that's a pretty I mean, I know the weather is
tough and it's an extremely difficult.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
Division, but those are some pretty good weapons you'd be
thrown too.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
We tend to talk about this.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
It feels like on a yearly basis, there's certain teams
that are proactive. They're going to extend their star players.
They get ahead of the curve, the financial curve. Here
we are with Dallas and Micaeh Parsons, and here we
are with Jamar Chase. The Bengals could have signed Jamar
Chase a while ago, it feels like and Dallas could
have done the same thing. I mean, you'd be saved.
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It's only going up. The longer you wait, the more
it's going to cost you. So I'm just trying to
understand the financial responsibility sensibility with both of these programs.
These franchises of they're great, pay them, don't wait to
pay them.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
I don't know, I don't know why they wait, but
I mean this last weekend we've seen the stark like
what happens when you wait? They waited, and now they
are Both teams are going to have to pay many,
many millions of dollars more, Which is great for the players,
Michael Carson. Good for Jamar Chase. They deserve they've earned it,
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go get it. But if you're the team that's trying
to move around the dollars, I mean, you have really
put yourself in a terrible spot. The Bangals did it
to them twice. First of all, they should have done
Jamar Chase last year. They were close. I believe they
got hung up on guaranteed money, which now you're like, ah,
I mean the market jumped so significantly, right. Nax Crosby
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deal made him the highest paid non quarterback, you know,
by a little bit. Now the Miles Garrett makes him
by a lot. And the Bengals have said publicly that
they're going to make Jamar Chase the highest paid non quarterbacks,
So I mean they've got no wiggle room and now
that's going to be much more expensive.
Speaker 11 (29:20):
Same thing for Trey Hendrickson if they have any thoughts
of being able to keep him.
Speaker 10 (29:24):
Well, the market for pass rushers just took that big
leap too with Miles Garrett, so that's double trouble for them.
And then of course the Michael Carson's thing, which is, again,
why why do these teams wait? I don't know, but
they're going to pay much much more than they would
have if they had just been proactive and gotten it
done early. You always, if you're the team, you want
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to be the first, right if you're the player, you
want to be the last because you want to top
the market. From the team point.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Of view, this was not good and I like what
Buffalo did they were proactive. This kind of came out
of nowhere with Josh Allen getting a new deal. But
it gives them flexibility, yes.
Speaker 10 (30:02):
Right, And you don't have to you don't have to
think about this and there's no The other thing about
waiting is it creates tension with the player, right, like,
which you should not want to do. If again, the
Bengals know they're keeping Jamar Chase, right, he is a superstar,
he's your guy, He's Joe Burrows guy. You can't let
him out of the building. Why would you ever want
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to create tens with a player like that. So in
the case of Buffalo, I mean, obviously Josh Allen is
a stud, right, the MVP. Where would that franchise be
without him? Yeah, they were proactive. Let's make him happy,
keep him happy, like anything, anything to make him happy.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And it's like the Bengals are paying their taxes late.
The Cowboys pay their taxes late. They're not And once again,
they have to be pretty smart to get in the
position to be able to be an owner of a team.
But there are times when I just with Jerry Jones,
he did this with dak overpaid for DK see d
Lamb now you can look at ce Dee Lamb and say,
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all right, they got a better deal with the you know,
wide receiving market. But Michael Parsons, you know, he's great,
Pay him, pay him, and because down the road these
other guys are going to get paid as well.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
But well, and the other thing, if I could just
add this, the other thing is when they when you
wait and it stretches throughout the off season, as we
saw happened with Dallas last year. Like the players admitted
it was a distraction, right like when you go down
to literally opening day for Dak Ruscott, right hours before
kickoff of the season. I mean they admitted it was
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on their minds. And that's that's the last thing you
want for a team that's you know, considers themselves.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
In the mix.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Now they're all in, and that's what they are. The
Cowboys are all in. Great to busy with you again,
Thank you very much.
Speaker 11 (31:50):
Great to see you, Dan. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
That's Judy Batista, senior national columnist and co host of
the Insiders on NFL Network. Yeah, there are just certain teams,
certain moves, things that make you go, hmm, Michah Parsons
is going to cost you. We've said that this was
last year. I think we talked about the Cowboys were
in a a good ish but bad ish situation because
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they were going to have to pay Dak CD Lamb
and Micah Parsons, all at the top of the pay
scale for their positions. If they are great, then pay them.
The same thing with the Bengals. Now you have to
pay Jamar Chase over forty million dollars. You could have
saved yourself four or five million dollars, but a year
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add that up. Now, all of a sudden, you're saving
twenty million dollars that can help you in other areas
of your team.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Just don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yes, Marvin, it's like the beautiful girl that is way
too hot for you, and it's like, man, she's smart,
she's funny, she's into you.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I'm not sure if I want to marry you. So
what's the issue? I'm worried? Like, what's the issue? I've
got commitment issues?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, no, commit to Jamar Chase, commit to Micah Parsons,
or be committed for being crazy. All right, We'll take
a break. Play of the day up next your phone calls.
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Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yes, Dan, I have the results for you. Who had
the best weekend excluding Josh Allen Adams is taking it
right now with fifty three percent, fall by Miles Garrett
at thirty seven and a half percent.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, I get it. With Davante Adams. You know, you
go from the Jets and not quite sure was he
going to go back to Green Bay? Was there another
opportunity for him? The Rams swoop in and all of
a sudden they upgrade their roster. Rams have had a
good off season so far. Matthew Stafford coming back for
a couple of years. That's a young team. Aside from
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Matthew Stafford, Devonte Adams, that defense is really good. And
Miles Garrett, I don't think as much as he wanted
to leave, there was nothing he could do. If the
owner won't talk to you. He says, you talk to
the GM. He wants you to stay. The GM said
we're not trading you, and from what I was told,
they didn't receive anything of I think they thought they
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were going this is what I was told, that they
were going to get a herschel Walker like hall for
Miles Garrett. Didn't get anything anything near that.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
I don't know. Maybe they didn't even take phone calls.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
But that's one of those where you got to save
face for Miles Garrett and it's like, hey, but we're
gonna make you the highest paid defensive player because he
did want to compete. I don't know what leverage he
had other than he was going to hold out Buddha
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Speaker 5 (37:07):
It's it's like so impressive to see how much noise
it makes.
Speaker 12 (37:10):
I mean truly amazing, how many storylines there are and
moves there are to be made. Still, I mean, the
shield is strong and worst of the weekend in Miles Garrett,
I mean when he said it's not up, it's not
about the money. When I heard him say that, I
was like, I mean, it's all about the money, right,
I mean, and he needs to remind himself next year.
(37:32):
Dan around mid season, I'd say that he chose to
stay in Cleveland, which is going to be not good.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I don't know if he chose to stay. I want
to be fair to the situation. And as I said
a half hour ago, I have more information than I
can let on in this With this story, I promised
to source yesterday. But I don't think that they were
either fielding calls or got anything that was going to
(38:03):
blow them away. It doesn't mean that Miles Garrett didn't
want to go and play for a contender. It was
I don't think there was really the opportunity to be
able to go. And yes, it's about the money he
was going to get paid if he went someplace else.
But when they say it's not about the money, it's
about the money, Gus in La, I guess what's on
(38:24):
your mind?
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Good more than mister Patrick Hopere and the boys had
a good weekend. Well, you know, not too many best
for me this weekend. You know, we had our eight game.
Speaker 8 (38:34):
Losing streak ended by that team in Boston.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Lebron goes down, hopefully it's only one to two weeks,
and then my lady Trojans lose close to the you know.
Speaker 8 (38:46):
The buzzy yesterday to that team in Westwood.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Ucla.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
Had a good basketball weekend for me.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
It was fun.
Speaker 8 (38:53):
Though we've seen DK Metcalf comes to the Steelers. Best
of the weekend. I know it really wasn't the weekend.
But Thursday night I got to go to Staples Center
I still call it Staples Center, I don't call it
Crystal and watch the Lakers and Knicks. There's something different
about this team. Dave mcmannimon kind of touched on it
that there was something different, like every shot was just
(39:13):
electric through the building. Luca.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
It's all one hundred percent Luca, and it's brought fun
to this team. We haven't had fun with this team
in years, and it's brought a level of excitement to it.
I know that Charles Barkley and Kendrick Perkins are now
fighting like senior citizens at the Center about why the
NBA is relevant again.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
But hey man, it's fun being a fan in LA.
No offense to Cleveland in Oklahoma City, but no one's
watching you, guys, and it's because the Lakers right now.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Sorry you boys, have a great week.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't watch the Cleveland Cavaliers,
who have won fourteen in row. You may not find
them exciting. You may want to watch Luca and Lebron,
which I understand. Lebron injured is growing. Paulie thinks this
could be a good thing for Lebron. James, we'll have
that for you coming up. When Pauli goes, hey, Lebron's growing,
(40:06):
it's a good thing that he got hurt, I'm like, okay,
all right, I'll and listen to that. I had Friday off,
by the way, my wife got me a gift for
Christmas that we were going wine tasting, and so we
went outside of Santa Barbara, ran into some wonderful people.
Got to go to my favorite. I can't say it's
(40:27):
a winery because all they do is I got to
go out to where they grow the grapes and it's
a sea smoke. Now, what I found out was the sea.
It's really fog smoke, but the locals call it sea smoke,
and it's just this fog that comes in in the
morning off the ocean and it just blankets the grapes
(40:51):
and it creates a wonderful pino noir. But the people
were great. Ran into a lot of fans of the show.
Then I went to a fundraiser in Santa Barbara Saturday
night and it turned it was for first responders and
they did a wonderful job. Hooting The Blowfish was playing.
(41:13):
Kenny Loggins was there, Michael McDonald was there. Who else
did I see? Benji Madden of Good Charlotte was there,
Miles Teller actor was there. Yeah, Oprah, Oprah was not there.
I was told that Prince Harry was going to be there.
(41:34):
I didn't see him. I was looking for Megan Marco.
I wasn't looking for Harry, but I didn't see either
one of them. But wonderful weekend in the Santa Barbara
Montecito area. One hour in the books, two more to
go on this Monday. More phone calls coming up after
this
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Dan Patrick
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