March 18, 2025 • 38 mins
Dan wonders what is taking so long for Aaron Rodgers to sign with an NFL team. And college hoops insider Seth Davis stops by with some expert advice for your bracket.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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or you're listening on our great radio affiliates around the country.
Pole question for the final hour of the program, if
you can't seat, and we will play Phil in the blank.
Let's see that.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Right now, we've got the best quarterback name ever. Johnny
Utah right now is thirty seven percent of that vote.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Last place is Jackson Dart. Okay, what's that all about. Well,
it's the new guy. Maybe people aren't aware.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Of him, hasn't earned it yet.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, he was at USC. He goes to old Miss
mel Kiper now has him the tenth overall pick by
the Saints. He also has Shadoor Sanders going to the
Giants at three. So when people say, you know, is
he going to go ahead of Shador Sanders, mel says,
Shadoor Sanders is going to go three to the Giants.
(00:53):
Once again, we got a lot of time before the draft.
We got a month before the draft.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, you take that whole thing with Shadur wearing the Giants.
Did he have a Giants cleeton? I think it was
man wouldn't that be something if he ended up going
to the Giants.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well, I think he's always thought that he was going
to the Giants. I think he made reference to Malik Neighbors.
I think that there's been subtle or nuanced messages about
going to the Giants, that Hey, I'm going there and
I'm going to turn that team around, just like I
did Colorado and Jackson State. I think that's the feeling.
(01:29):
Can't wait. He's got Molik Neighbors there, not afraid of
the New York spotlight, and he'll be ready to go.
Is it the right place for him? Is it the
right quarterback for him? You have a coaching staff coaching
for their jobs this year. Are you going to have
Shador Sanders play right away? What's Russell Wilson? Do you
(01:49):
know there? It is interesting, you know, cam Ward, if
he goes one the Giants, I thought we're going to
try to go up to one, but it's just too expensive.
Schador is there, they can take him. Do they still
bring in Russell Wilson for a year. Any chance that
Russ goes to Cleveland, Any chance that Russ goes back
(02:10):
to Pittsburgh. You know, we just had Bill kwer On.
He said, Look, I haven't talked to anybody in the building,
which I think he probably has, but you know, in
fairness to relationships there he not quite sure. But you're
waiting for Aaron Rodgers. I don't know what Aaron Rodgers
is waiting for, and I know I don't think he's
doing his interviews with McAfee in the off season. But
(02:34):
what is he waiting for? That's what I would be cured.
That'd be the one question I would ask Aaron what
are you waiting for now? Is it could be money,
which I don't know if that would be an obstacle
for Aaron Rodgers. Do you want to play with the Vikings? Yes,
doesn't matter what you're going to pay me, but yes,
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do I want to play for the Steelers? I don't know.
I really want to play for the Vikings. I don't
know if I want to play for the Steelers. But
if I'm Pittsburgh, I can't be held hostage. Aaron Rodgers
is gonna maybe make us a little bit better in
one year, and then we're right back in this again
the following year. Do you want to keep Aaron Rodgers
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for two years? They never should have let Justin Fields go.
I know he's not polished, but it felt like you
can grow with him. And I still think that he
can be a starting quarterback. I do, Well, he's going
to be with the Jets. You shouldn't have let him
out of the building. But if you hesitate, you go, Well,
we don't know if we want to keep him. Hey,
(03:35):
Aaron Rodgers possibility, Well, if you're Justin Fields, he not waiting.
He's going, I'm gonna take the Jets offer. I'm not
going to wait, and I don't blame him. Now, are
you going to win more games with the Steelers than
the Jets? Yes, but he might be able to have
this second career or would it be his third career.
(04:00):
They had the Bears, and they had the Steelers and
now you have the Jets. But I think that there's
the potential to grow with the new coaching staff. Yeah, Paulin.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
There's been a few reports out there that Justin Fields
was offered a just a little bit lesser contract by
the Steelers. If you're trying to restart your career, would
you take just a touch more money with the Jets
or stay with a safe franchise like the Steelers? No
one's really questioned that yet.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, but it's only a two year deal, so they
didn't really sign you up long term.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
But if you're trying to restart your career, they were
going to maybe give him the reins to the franchise
for one year.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, but the Jets I got some new coaching staff
and granted it's the Jets, but he may have said, look,
do you want me? How badly do you want me?
We're not sure if we want you, so he I
think they gave him an offer that he could refuse
because they're still waiting for Aaron Rodgers. But we're all
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waiting for Aaron Rodgers. Recapping the day, so Bill Kuer
always great to talk to him. The first four, it'll
be Saint Francis Pennsylvania, Alabama State, North Carolina, San Diego State.
North Carolina is a four and a half point favorite,
but talk about he must win. This is where you win.
(05:13):
If you don't win, oh my goodness, it'll be a
rough morning tomorrow morning in Chapel Hill because the rest
of the country is going to say, see, you didn't
deserve to be in the tournament. We'll talk to Seth
Davis from CBS. He'll join us coming up eight seven
to seven three DP show Nate in Texas. Hi, Nate,
(05:35):
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Good morning Dan? How are you guys? Great Nate, first
time caller, longtime listener six two one ninety, trying to
swim down. I just heard that Bill Tower interview. And
what I love about you, Dan, is that you're able
to get something out of these coaches because these coaches
(06:01):
have so much experience, they have so much understanding of
every process that happens in the game. But a lot
of them, because they're so caught up in the details,
you have to bring that out of them. You have
to ask them the great questions. I thought that still
(06:22):
Cower interview was.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Thank you, Nate. But you know I always talk about
people say, oh, you ask great questions, and I always say,
what are the answers, because that's really all that matters.
I can ask what I think is a great question,
I get a great answer. I just want to let
you talk. And I think that's always been sort of
the game plan here. Just let you talk and hopefully
(06:49):
you say something. I pick it out and then maybe
I go in a little deeper there. But they have
to be willing to talk. Now, could I conduct an
interview like that with Bill Belichick? If I'm not hang him,
probably not. But if you pay him, then he tends to,
you know, expound upon things a little bit more. They
just have to be open to it. That's the key
(07:10):
to a really good interview. That and then listen to
what they have to say. Uh, Norman in Mississippi. Hi, Norman,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Come on? And dan? Uh just talking about the mighty
Munsi Central Bearcats that lost to Milan Aka Hickory in
nineteen fifty two, that won more state titles than any
other high school in Indiana, did not win a game
last year in high school basketball.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, thank you, Norman. That's a stat of the day,
Marvin wooh.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
How stead of the day?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Stanta Day, Statuta day, stand outa day.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
This is the stand of the day. I didn't know
I was going to get a Hoosier update, but I did.
By the way, Luka Dancik had twenty one to fourteen
and nine rebounds. Lakers beat the Spurs. Since they traded
for him. The Lakers are nine to one at home.
The Rockets came back from twenty five down in the
(08:17):
fourth quarter beat Philadelphia. In the last six weeks, the
Sixers have blown fourth quarter leads of twenty five and
twenty six points. Congratulations. Fifty two players now have scored
at least forty or more points in a game. That's
the most at this point in a season in the
last twenty years. Also, I was ready to watch Denver
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against Golden State, and then all of a sudden, Joker
and Jamal Murray aren't playing, so I didn't watch Denver one.
I'm going if you're going to rest Joker and Jamal Murray,
do not rest them against Golden State. Rest them against
the Wizards, who they lost to over the week. Like,
(09:02):
let's just be fair to the audience. I'm sure they're
all tired and beat up. Let him sit in the
game against Washington. I know, you know, if you're gonna
rest him and then you've got a game against the
Lakers coming up, you could rest them against Washington and
then they play. I mean, this is what you we
We get ready for these games. We want to see
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these matchups, and then all of a sudden, it's he's
not playing, Jamal Murray's not playing. All right, time to
play phil in the blank. Fill in the blank, Dylan,
I'll start with you. The NCAA tournament expansion is blank, lame, Seaton, blank, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
The chance for less teams to complain about not making
a tournament since there's already so many teams in the tournament.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Anyway, wordy, but I'll accept it. NCAA tournament expansion is blank, Paul,
months away. Baseball starting the season overseas is blank. By
the way, the Dodgers beating the Cubs today this morning,
Dylan lame, now good for the Dodgers, Seaton, lame.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
Marvin literally un American, Paul, easy to miss. I would
say disappointing.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Just just play spring training games a couple of spring
training games. Houston Rockets are blank Dylan, intriguing as a
flat Seaton, youthful Marvin, aawish. No, they used to be aauish.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
Yeah, like eighteen months ago, those guys were playing AAU basketball.
Now they're an NBA, Paul.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
The Houston Rockets are blank, good but a little faceless.
The Houston Rockets are dangerous. The Steelers starting quarterback next
season will be blank Dylan, uh, probably Aaron Rodgers, Seaton, Mason,
Rudolph Harvin.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
The guy who wears a Shawl.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Paul A Pro Bowl alternate MM alternate.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
The Steelers starting quarterback next season will be Mason Rudon.
Oh no, that's lad.
Speaker 9 (11:36):
Jump on board the bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Come on, buddy. Yeah. Calling in sick to watch the
tournament on Thursday is blank, Dylan.
Speaker 10 (11:45):
A waste of a sick day.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Just watch it at work, Seaton. I agree with it's
a waste of a sick day. Yeah. But there are
certain jobs where you can't watch the tournament though.
Speaker 11 (11:57):
Name one.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, like being a school teacher.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Oh, you're right, you can't watch that.
Speaker 10 (12:02):
You can't roll on the TV and put on the tournament.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Did you ever have a teacher who and and you know,
now decades after I was in high school, they might
have been hungover and then they would play a movie
but it had nothing to do with the class that
you were in. It would be like, uh, you know,
and I was part of the audio visual team, and
uh so you have to set up the TV monitor
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and then all of a sudden you turn out the
lights and then you look over and you see mister strunk,
was you know, sound asleep? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, I had a religion teacher that sometimes if he
was in a bad mood. We would come in and
he would just be listening to Bob Marley.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
That's all we're doing today is listening to Bob Marley.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Sick.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (12:45):
My social study teacher brought in the VHS cassette and
we just watched Hoop Dreams.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh social studies. Yeah, social Yes, you.
Speaker 10 (12:53):
Can tell they were hungover if they didn't even have
the lights on when you got into the room.
Speaker 12 (12:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Call in sick to watch the tournament on Thursday is
what Marvin.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
Something, Ray and Dylan do.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, well, no, they're here. They don't call in sick.
They're here.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
But if they were like lawyers or doctors or something important,
that's something they would do.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
They could never become lawyer.
Speaker 10 (13:16):
No, no, I know, I know, I know in an
alternate universe they actually have lawyers.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
No doctors, though, calling in sick to watch the tournament
on Thursday is blank. Paul, to be commended, well, to
be Commendeday, I never did that call in sick. I'm
trying to think if I called in sick for oh
opening day, Red's opening day. I called in sick one
time and I went down there might have been nineteen
(13:44):
seventy and went down to Riverfront Stadium, big Red Machine. Yeah,
opening day, it was a big deal in noon start, Yes,
but would you.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Call in sick?
Speaker 13 (13:57):
Would you?
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Like in high school, did you ever call in sick
or sick?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
No, just that just going to see the reds one time.
But I don't think any Like my mom was on
to me, you know she you know, it'd be like,
all right, if you want to call in sick, you
call in sick, because I'd be like, oh man throat
early store, all right, you call in. And then I
was like, I don't want to call in the secretary,
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you know, the principal's office. So I never did. But
she wasn't going to do it. She was not going
to do my dirty work. Yes, deal.
Speaker 10 (14:32):
Well, the worst would be if she's like, all right,
if you're that sick, I guess we're going to the
doctor today. Then you're like, well, not that sick.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Well no, my mom was not like Fritzie's mom where
you have a coffee. There would have been an ambulance. Yeah,
poor Fritzie. I mean his mom would take him to
the doctor no matter what happened. Like any he sneezed,
got to go to the doctor. I remember she was
disappointed that they didn't get shots one time, him and
his brother, and she told them that she wanted them
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to get shots first. I don't know what it was,
but they weren't supposed to get shots. And he jokes
about getting his temperature taken wrecked at home.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
Yes, not even in a positions office. Yeah, I mean,
come on, that's a tough one. If all you did
was sneeze.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, well, hopefully not while you're getting that done.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
You just have a sore throat.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You might send that thermometer through a wall like a jabbler.
What was that Todd's getting his temperature taken rector? Alrighty,
this is why we don't win sports semis right here,
this is it? All right, We're gonna take a break.
Seth Davis from CBS Sports. He will Well, we got
(15:48):
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Speaker 2 (17:03):
On this date in nineteen ninety Loyal to Marymount beat
Michigan one forty nine to one fifteen, highest scoring game
in NCAA tournament history. Let's bringing Seth Davis he of
course from CBS Sports. You know, that Loyal and Marymount
team was so far ahead of everybody in basketball when
you think about what they were doing when they were
doing it. This is what the game is now, certainly
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in the NBA.
Speaker 15 (17:28):
Yeah, and it's kind of you know, when you mention that,
you know, so many unbelievable memories obviously from not only
that team but that era, and it's it's interesting that
nobody has really tried to do that. Now we have
the analytics, and we have the three point shot and
the spacing and all of that, but just the frenetic
you know, early shot clock attempt no matter what. You know,
(17:51):
there's like that Division III school, Grinnell College is that
way and there's some dispute and it's an interesting conversation.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
Is that really basketball?
Speaker 15 (17:59):
I mean are they trying to win the thing about
that Loyal and Marrimount team is they were really good.
I mean they won a lot of games playing that way.
It's just interesting that you know, in today's era, especially
with the portal, you think a lot of players would
want to try to play that way.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But also it's a we want to take a three,
We'll give you a two. We're going to take a three.
And Paul West had, you know, had great shooters on
that team, great scores on that team, and really you
haven't seen anybody replicate that in Division one basketball, which
you know, given the fact that everybody wants shoot threes,
you would think that that would be something if they
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found a couple of really good three in d guys,
that you'd be able to incorporate that. All right, I
got off on a tangent there. What if North Carolina
loses tonight?
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Seth, I do not like the better question.
Speaker 15 (18:45):
What if North Carolina makes the Sweet sixteen, does that
mean they deserve to get in?
Speaker 7 (18:49):
No, the tournament is nuts. Stopped trying to make sense.
Speaker 15 (18:53):
Everybody wants to make s Oh, Gonzaga, that means they
shouldn't have gotten Remember which tossed eight didn't get the
right seat on that show? No, No, no, no, no, no, the
tournament it all starts over again. There are a lot
of teams that are not in this tournament that could
win a few games. We've had two teams in the
last fourteen years go from the first four to the
final four. We don't need to get off another tangent.
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But I happen to be a proponent of expansion partly
for this reason. I mean, imagine, by the way, Dan,
you know we've got two games tonight and two games
tomorrow night. How excited are your listeners about those games?
Maybe not really, But if there were six games today
and six games tomorrow, I think there'd be a lot
more excitement. But yeah, I encourage people, Please don't use
NCAA tournament results to retroactively justify whatever narrative you're trying
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to create.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Could we have total transparency with the selection committee and
they would allow us to see and hear what goes
on behind the scenes. Is that asking too much invading
somebody's privacy to let us see, so there is no discrepancy,
so we do hear the arguments here?
Speaker 15 (19:59):
Right, So I start with this baseline, no matter what happens,
when that Brackett comes out, people are going to be pissed,
and some opportunistic governor is going to do whatever he does,
and everyone's going to get on social media. Everybody's going
to be pissed no matter what happens. I got half
my timeline, you know, criticizing me for fawning over the
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committee and bub Bubba Cunningham when I asked him the
question on the selection show, and the other half things
that I am totally unfair, Duke hack who set him
up for an unfair question.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
It's just the nature of the zeit, guys.
Speaker 15 (20:32):
This happened with the college football playoff when Alabama didn't
get in. So I think the basketball committee, I think
the football is way behind on this, and I understand
this is the first year that they've done this. The
basketball committee in the nca in general, has been extremely
transparent about the process. Why do you think there are
two hundred and fifty or five hundred bracketologists out there
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all using the numbers everything is out there. At the
end of the day, it becomes very subjective. You get
seven teams for three spots, right, that's the math. And
so I've actually frankly talked to them about putting a
pool reporter in the room so they can report on
the person in the room can report on that, at
least maybe for the bracketing because everybody has a million conspiracies,
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are you just they obviously obviously they just want to
set up Platino in Calipari. You know, they used to
and they haven't done this in a while then, And
they actually used to do a mock selection where they
bring in members of the media such as myself, put
them in the actual committee room on the actual committee computers,
and have them go through, you know, a truncated process
so we all understand what the process is at the
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end of the day. I get the argument that, hey,
these are big decisions, and we want people to be
able to speak freely, and if there's a camera in
the room, they can't speak freely and have a real
candid discussion about things. It's a very difficult position to
be in because you know they're subject to such criticisms.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
So look, I disagree with the North Carolina decision.
Speaker 15 (21:56):
By the way, go to all these bracketologist who are
up in arms. All of them had Carolina in their
first four out. Many of them had Carolina as their
first team out or their second team out. And every
year there is a team that comes sort of from
further down the list. But people don't expect to be
in it's a little unfortunate that this year that team
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happened to be the school where not just someone on
the committee, but the.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Actual chair of the committee is.
Speaker 15 (22:24):
The ad from that school, and he's gotten an incentive
in his contract. It's all Bubba mice. Dan, I disagree,
but that doesn't make it corrupt.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, I just there's so much money at stake, there's
jobs at stake, you know. I just I want to
make sure they get it right. It's just like the
college football playoffs. I want to make sure they get
it right.
Speaker 15 (22:45):
Wouldn't you agree that that there is no right at
the end of the day. It's otherwise. The better answer, Dan,
would be, let's not have any human beings do it.
Let's have an algorithm and let's plug in the numbers
and let's let the AI computer or whatever will use
your image AI generated to you know, but why even have.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
People in the room.
Speaker 15 (23:06):
It's subjective. You're going to get what the football went
from four to twelve. That means whoever's thirteen is going
to be mad.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
It's just it's just math.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Okay, So why don't we do that? Or why don't
we let Vegas decide who are the teams that should
be in.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
There's a case for that.
Speaker 15 (23:23):
Listen, I've made the case, and I'll give Joe Lonardi
credit for being one of the first to really say this.
People talk about the eye test. I don't think there
should be an eye test. Oh look at them. They
both like, you see your vine and you see San Diego.
Look at this game, they both. Have you seen every
team play every game this year? Because I watch a
lot of basketball and I haven't done that, but those
numbers have seen that. So you know, there is some
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subjectivity built into the really on the fringes of the process.
You know, ninety percent of what happens and who's in
and where they're seated and where they play is pretty
baked in. So it's only in that last maybe ten
percent where you get genuine human subjectivity. And as long
as you have that, people are going to be mad.
They're going to have conspiracy theories. Oh, we should have
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basketball people on the committee. We should have non NCAA
people on the committee.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Blah blah blah. Win enough games and you don't have
to worry about it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Seth Davis from CBS Sports joining us. Let's say Duke
doesn't win the National title. Let's say Duke maybe bounds
out in the Elite eight. Is there a scenario where
Cooper Flag would come back to Duke?
Speaker 15 (24:26):
In your opinion, there's a better chance that I will
play for Duke next year. And by the way, I
do have eligibility that Cooper Flag there is zero chance.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
And he should.
Speaker 15 (24:38):
I would not suggest that anybody make that kind of
a decision based on the NCAA tournament and what happens
in the postseason. Who knows what happens in this tournament.
He's going to be the number one pick in the draft. Yes,
he can make good money coming back to Duke. He
can make exponentially more going to the NBA. You know,
when Zion Williamson was about to make his announcement, he said, well,
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we don't know how serious he really was, but he
actually talked to Coach k about this, and he said,
what if.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
I come back?
Speaker 15 (25:06):
Like I had such fun like what if I come back?
And Ka basically told him, well, you don't have a
scholarship here and you don't have a roster here.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
I don't want that on me. Go pro go make
your hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
So let's Cooper flyg get paid.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
That's a great question, and he wants transparency. That's what
I'd like to know.
Speaker 15 (25:22):
I would guess neighborhood of eight million all in right between.
He's probably getting two from Duke and their whole collective.
I mean, he's got his own new Balance.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
He's got to get more from Duke than the guy
at Kansas State got two million dollars.
Speaker 15 (25:37):
He got two million dollars from their collective. But Cooper
Flag is a unicorn in terms of his market. I
mean he's got his own shoe deal, he's at the
signature Nike's school, and he's got a new Balance deal.
Speaker 16 (25:48):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
That's my hat's off the hip man.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
But but you don't want to Brown.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
I want to shout at his agent at SAA, that's
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You don't want to go to the Wizards though.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
You know what, It's funny.
Speaker 15 (25:59):
I grew up a Wizards fan, and I went down
to Durham to interview Cooper Flag and a couple of
guys for Fox Sports.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
I said to him, I said, you look pretty good
in the Wizard's uniform, but.
Speaker 15 (26:09):
They're not gonna win. Look, it would be the most
Wizards thing ever to not not they're gonna pick third
or whatever whatever the lowest on.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
We weren't you a Bullets fan before then they became
because I remember seeing the ball the Bullets with Wes
Unseld and Phil and Elvin Hayes.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Elvin Hayes, Yeah.
Speaker 15 (26:28):
Do you remember the old Capital Center with that sort
of concave. Yeah, yeah, out in Landover, Maryland. My dad
of those games back in the day. We are old,
d and we are old.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
The transfer portals effect on college basketball, good or bad?
Speaker 15 (26:44):
I think it's I think on balance it's been very good.
I think that I would like to see maybe for
the second time transfer you have to sit out of here.
That's really what happened. People talk about the portal. The
portal is just a database that allows everybody to see
who wants to transfer, who doesn't, and help you to
get in touch. What really happened was it used to
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be if you transferred, you had to sit out a year,
and it was only in like a couple of sports.
So they got rid of that, and then they said, oh, okay,
on the second transfer, you have to sit out of here,
but we're going to have exceptions for hardships and then
everybody's uncle got super sick and they had to, you know,
go live near the uncle, and.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
So they ended up getting rid of that.
Speaker 15 (27:26):
That's part of why, you know, I'm hoping at some
point it seems inevitable then they just make them employees,
let them unionize, get a collective bargaining agreement, and maybe
maybe it gets rectified that way. But you know, I
see and I understand, like when people will say, oh,
you know, these mid major teams, they have a great player,
and then he can just transfer up, and that's not
(27:47):
fair to the mid major schools, but they can also
get transfers from schools who are in lower divisions. And
by the way, a lot of these players start off
at those power conference schools and don't get a lot
of minutes and they end up transferring down. So I
don't think there's been any change in that regard. The
best players are always going to go to the schools
with the best resources, and so it's sort of manifesting
(28:10):
itself differently. But this is as far as I'm concerned,
it's been that way since the beginning of time.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, look at Drake, they took players from Division two
to fill out that roster. So you're right, you can
go down lower if you need to give me the
sneaky give me two or three sneaky teams that they
may not get to the final four, but they're going
to create some havoc.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Well, Drake is definitely one of them.
Speaker 15 (28:34):
You know, Ben McCollum came from D two, won national
championships there, brought four players. And by the way, you
see San Diego as another team, I've got them going
to the sweet sixteen. Actually this is their fourth year
in Division one, but there's a transition period about being
so is their first year being eligible for the tournament.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Yeah, so those are hungry.
Speaker 15 (28:53):
But a lot of those guys came from a Division
two as well. What I like about Drake dan and
maybe this is someone that all the bracket filler routers
can look out for. I like I do like teams
that is slow tempo because it's you get these stylistic contrasts.
So they're playing Missouri, which likes to get out and go,
and you know basketball better than anyone. It's much easier
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to take a team that wants to run and slow
them down then take a team that wants to play
slow and try to speed them up. So Saint Mary's
is another team that plays a slow tempo liberty. They're
playing Oregon in the first round, and that's my first
round upset.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
I really like.
Speaker 15 (29:29):
High Point as a thirteen seed. They won their league
last year, lost in the conference tournament, brought a lot
of those guys back. They got a guy Bobby Pettiford
who played at Kansas Ye now coming off their bench,
and they won all year. They won their league by
three games. And then McNeice is the other one. Will
Wade's got some serious, serious high major athletes. I like
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high Point because they go seven feet six' eight in
the front court and they're six.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Man is a stretch for six.
Speaker 15 (29:58):
Nine a lot of times those mid major team teams
don't have the size up front.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
That some of the high majors. ONE does i Like
the panthers Of.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
High point give me the vulnerable number, One, SEED.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Well i Think.
Speaker 15 (30:10):
IT'S auburn, I mean i think there's any question that
they've lost. THEIR edge i think the mantle of being
as good as, they are as good as they've been
in that league. All, season now, you know maybe they know.
Rejuvenate themselves auburn is an, Amazing, story dan and that
all of, those guys they got, one guy a freshman
point guard To hot petterford comes off.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
The bench he was a.
Speaker 15 (30:30):
Top recruit everybody else. ARE ted, I Mean jeni broom
is the player of, the year spent his first two
Seasons At. MOREHEAD state, i mean they got guys who
transferred Into from. Division Two, Chad baker mazara came from.
Junior college so they kind of they need to get,
that back like that chip on. Their shoulder they're much
better like, seat biscuit, you know trying to play.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
From behind should there be an age? CEILING that i
think the point Guard for creighton is? Twenty four is that?
THAT right, i mean should we get to the, point where,
you know maybe.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Twenty, THREE well i don't think it should.
Speaker 15 (31:07):
BE age, i, DO obviously i think it should. Be eligibility,
and again this is why we just need to get to,
collective bargaining because the Governor Of, west virginia, YOU know,
i mean what makes you more popular as a politician
or attorney general prosecutor than, you know sticking up for
athletes AGAINST.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
The ncaaa one thing that is going to happen.
Speaker 15 (31:26):
Next year the whole sport's going to get younger because
this is the last year of the QUOTE Unquote. Covid
senior everybody got an extra year of eligibility.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
BECAUSE.
Speaker 15 (31:38):
Of covid so you got guys who are playing and
if like you had a medical, red shirt but now
like they're trying to make it so and these judges
are helping them out that the junior college doesn't count against.
Your clock so you can play two years in junior
college and now and now have five to play Four in.
Division one that's not going.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
To last. IT'S craziness i.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Tell you we'll talk to you during. The tournament always
great to connect.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
With you, Love, you dan thanks for having me on
and joy.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
The tournament, Thank You Sam SETH. Davis cbs we'll come
back last call for, phone calls what, we learned what's
in store tomorrow, after this.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Be sure to catch the live Edition Of The Dan
patrick show weekdays at Nine am eastern Six am Pacific
On Fox sports radio And the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Wap, UH so i got my, bracket here don't fill
it out. Until tomorrow at at the end of, the
show at the end, of business a couple of phone
calls in here and let. Me see How about Kennedy.
And Nebraska, hi kennedy how were you?
Speaker 17 (32:38):
This?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Morning hey?
Speaker 17 (32:40):
Pretty good and, first Off Happy?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
New, year, no, no no we don't, do that.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Thank.
Speaker 17 (32:47):
You no you guys mentioned earlier What jobs dan Camp Watch?
March madness? That WORKED and i think you guys said
teachers aren't able to and as a Teacher, IN nebraska
i can tell you it can be and. Is done
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that's kind of why extra credit. WAS invented i think
to keep an eye on the kids at the desk
and keep an eye on creating a.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Newis though, all, right well Thank you kennedy sounds like
a teacher who probably gives his students a chance to
watch basketball. Extra credit Jack, in. Michigan hijack what's on your? Mind? Today?
Speaker 12 (33:31):
HEY dan i think people are making too big of
a Deal About. North carolina everybody's getting bent out. Of
shape they're not going to be around. That long we
don't have to worry. About them AND then i thought
about you guys and how you have such an extensive background,
in MUSIC and i thought there's probably, a musical a
(33:54):
song about every team in, the tournament and this One
and linda had this to Say.
Speaker 11 (34:02):
About carolina, Thank, YOU jack i respect.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
The effort. Nailed, it yep he did. Nailed It jim Jim,
In California, hi jim, Good.
Speaker 12 (34:24):
Morning dan how are you this?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
All spectacular.
Speaker 18 (34:28):
Hey to i'm glad you mentioned it a little. Bit ago.
About baseball it's lame And. Un americans you have the
opening day of our national pastime in a country other
Than The united States. Of america never mind an opening
Day on march. The eighteenth they should play exhibition games
over there and start like they usually do In The
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united States. Of america AND.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
The nfl, oh okay oh we lost HIS quick nfl, Take. There.
Marvin yeah SEE.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
That's i FEEL like i have more of a problem
not with where baseball's opening, day is but the timing.
Of it they hate, that it's, you know weeks before the.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
SEASON starts i just don't think it's fair to.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
These teams what do you have and if you're having
these games count and then you play a bunch of
games and then they, don't count and then you play
games that do, count again what the hell for.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Are you trying to tell me that the best baseball
Fan in japan is going to go now it's, a
preseason it's. Spring training i'm not going to. Watch that
they will show up and they will sell that. Place
out at least be fair to the players who have
a couple. Of weeks now you have to go back
and go back into spring. Training mode IT'S just i don't.
LIKE it i understand Why the dodgers want to, do
(35:45):
It absolutely and, you know if You're the cubs and
you want to try to establish a foothold, over there
and maybe you know you're able to get. More players
they have a Couple of. JAPANESE players i understand all.
Of that i'm all about growing, the game but care of,
you know your fan who's been with you. For decades
you can still grow. The game but if You're a,
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dodger fan were you getting up at three in, the
morning four in. THE morning, i mean if you're going
over there For, the dodgers then think About the. Dodgers
fans let's see this day and. Sports history pauling.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Eighteen, Ninety Two, Frederick Arthur lord Stanley, of preston announced
that he had purchased a trophy to be presented To
The hockey Champion, Of canada guess what they, named It The. Stanley,
cump yeah very nice of him to not open up To.
Other lord and then nineteen SEVENTY the Nfl selected wilson
to be the official football and scoreboard as the.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Official, time okay let ME see i mentioned a couple of.
Basketball Ones, michael jordan perhaps you've heard. Of him nineteen
ninety five announced that he is ending his SEVENTEEN month
Nba retirement Mike. And, Florida, hi mike what's on your? Mind?
Speaker 16 (36:56):
Today, DANIEL first i want to thank you for all
your great interviews over. The years you make people at
ease and that you go in directions that nobody else
would go into and you get stuff out of them
that nobody can get out. Of THEM so i really
appreciate your interviews over.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
The, years well thank you, Very, Much mike.
Speaker 16 (37:13):
You're welcome but and the, net rankings that's the ONLY
thing i want. To investigate and let me give. You
example at the first of, The year houston lost their
first three quad one games and they were still in
net rankings. Number three now you explain that. To me
how can you lose the zero to three and quad
one wins that are supposed to? Be important and still
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be ranked in the. Net rankings. Number three that. Just
throws it's garbage in and. GARBAGE out i would rather
see people who like ex coaches who maybe call these
a lot of these games and watch dozens because they
call the games.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
They it, you know there's a no win situation, those
players those coaches may, play favorites or we would infer
that they're. Playing Favorites jim beheim's on. The program we'll
see what. HE says rg three will. Stop by what
did you, Learn Today Dylan.
Speaker 10 (38:05):
General booty's middle Name, is axel which is also the
most normal of his.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Three Names, Uh, Seaton yeah axel. In there. It's underappreciated marvin.
Speaker 8 (38:16):
Mel Kiper Loved Jackson, Dart.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Paul It's robert griffin, the third And It's Jim. BEHEIM
junior i just.
Speaker 16 (38:21):
Found it
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Good morning, If you're watching on Peacock that's our streaming partner,
or you're listening on our great radio affiliates around the country.
Pole question for the final hour of the program, if
you can't seat, and we will play Phil in the blank.
Let's see that.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Right now, we've got the best quarterback name ever. Johnny
Utah right now is thirty seven percent of that vote.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Last place is Jackson Dart. Okay, what's that all about. Well,
it's the new guy. Maybe people aren't aware.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Of him, hasn't earned it yet.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, he was at USC. He goes to old Miss
mel Kiper now has him the tenth overall pick by
the Saints. He also has Shadoor Sanders going to the
Giants at three. So when people say, you know, is
he going to go ahead of Shador Sanders, mel says,
Shadoor Sanders is going to go three to the Giants.
(00:53):
Once again, we got a lot of time before the draft.
We got a month before the draft.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, you take that whole thing with Shadur wearing the Giants.
Did he have a Giants cleeton? I think it was
man wouldn't that be something if he ended up going
to the Giants.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well, I think he's always thought that he was going
to the Giants. I think he made reference to Malik Neighbors.
I think that there's been subtle or nuanced messages about
going to the Giants, that Hey, I'm going there and
I'm going to turn that team around, just like I
did Colorado and Jackson State. I think that's the feeling.
(01:29):
Can't wait. He's got Molik Neighbors there, not afraid of
the New York spotlight, and he'll be ready to go.
Is it the right place for him? Is it the
right quarterback for him? You have a coaching staff coaching
for their jobs this year. Are you going to have
Shador Sanders play right away? What's Russell Wilson? Do you
(01:49):
know there? It is interesting, you know, cam Ward, if
he goes one the Giants, I thought we're going to
try to go up to one, but it's just too expensive.
Schador is there, they can take him. Do they still
bring in Russell Wilson for a year. Any chance that
Russ goes to Cleveland, Any chance that Russ goes back
(02:10):
to Pittsburgh. You know, we just had Bill kwer On.
He said, Look, I haven't talked to anybody in the building,
which I think he probably has, but you know, in
fairness to relationships there he not quite sure. But you're
waiting for Aaron Rodgers. I don't know what Aaron Rodgers
is waiting for, and I know I don't think he's
doing his interviews with McAfee in the off season. But
(02:34):
what is he waiting for? That's what I would be cured.
That'd be the one question I would ask Aaron what
are you waiting for now? Is it could be money,
which I don't know if that would be an obstacle
for Aaron Rodgers. Do you want to play with the Vikings? Yes,
doesn't matter what you're going to pay me, but yes,
(02:54):
do I want to play for the Steelers? I don't know.
I really want to play for the Vikings. I don't
know if I want to play for the Steelers. But
if I'm Pittsburgh, I can't be held hostage. Aaron Rodgers
is gonna maybe make us a little bit better in
one year, and then we're right back in this again
the following year. Do you want to keep Aaron Rodgers
(03:14):
for two years? They never should have let Justin Fields go.
I know he's not polished, but it felt like you
can grow with him. And I still think that he
can be a starting quarterback. I do, Well, he's going
to be with the Jets. You shouldn't have let him
out of the building. But if you hesitate, you go, Well,
we don't know if we want to keep him. Hey,
(03:35):
Aaron Rodgers possibility, Well, if you're Justin Fields, he not waiting.
He's going, I'm gonna take the Jets offer. I'm not
going to wait, and I don't blame him. Now, are
you going to win more games with the Steelers than
the Jets? Yes, but he might be able to have
this second career or would it be his third career.
(04:00):
They had the Bears, and they had the Steelers and
now you have the Jets. But I think that there's
the potential to grow with the new coaching staff. Yeah, Paulin.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
There's been a few reports out there that Justin Fields
was offered a just a little bit lesser contract by
the Steelers. If you're trying to restart your career, would
you take just a touch more money with the Jets
or stay with a safe franchise like the Steelers? No
one's really questioned that yet.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, but it's only a two year deal, so they
didn't really sign you up long term.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
But if you're trying to restart your career, they were
going to maybe give him the reins to the franchise
for one year.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, but the Jets I got some new coaching staff
and granted it's the Jets, but he may have said, look,
do you want me? How badly do you want me?
We're not sure if we want you, so he I
think they gave him an offer that he could refuse
because they're still waiting for Aaron Rodgers. But we're all
(04:52):
waiting for Aaron Rodgers. Recapping the day, so Bill Kuer
always great to talk to him. The first four, it'll
be Saint Francis Pennsylvania, Alabama State, North Carolina, San Diego State.
North Carolina is a four and a half point favorite,
but talk about he must win. This is where you win.
(05:13):
If you don't win, oh my goodness, it'll be a
rough morning tomorrow morning in Chapel Hill because the rest
of the country is going to say, see, you didn't
deserve to be in the tournament. We'll talk to Seth
Davis from CBS. He'll join us coming up eight seven
to seven three DP show Nate in Texas. Hi, Nate,
(05:35):
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Good morning Dan? How are you guys? Great Nate, first
time caller, longtime listener six two one ninety, trying to
swim down. I just heard that Bill Tower interview. And
what I love about you, Dan, is that you're able
to get something out of these coaches because these coaches
(06:01):
have so much experience, they have so much understanding of
every process that happens in the game. But a lot
of them, because they're so caught up in the details,
you have to bring that out of them. You have
to ask them the great questions. I thought that still
(06:22):
Cower interview was.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Thank you, Nate. But you know I always talk about
people say, oh, you ask great questions, and I always say,
what are the answers, because that's really all that matters.
I can ask what I think is a great question,
I get a great answer. I just want to let
you talk. And I think that's always been sort of
the game plan here. Just let you talk and hopefully
(06:49):
you say something. I pick it out and then maybe
I go in a little deeper there. But they have
to be willing to talk. Now, could I conduct an
interview like that with Bill Belichick? If I'm not hang him,
probably not. But if you pay him, then he tends to,
you know, expound upon things a little bit more. They
just have to be open to it. That's the key
(07:10):
to a really good interview. That and then listen to
what they have to say. Uh, Norman in Mississippi. Hi, Norman,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Come on? And dan? Uh just talking about the mighty
Munsi Central Bearcats that lost to Milan Aka Hickory in
nineteen fifty two, that won more state titles than any
other high school in Indiana, did not win a game
last year in high school basketball.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, thank you, Norman. That's a stat of the day,
Marvin wooh.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
How stead of the day?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Stanta Day, Statuta day, stand outa day.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
This is the stand of the day. I didn't know
I was going to get a Hoosier update, but I did.
By the way, Luka Dancik had twenty one to fourteen
and nine rebounds. Lakers beat the Spurs. Since they traded
for him. The Lakers are nine to one at home.
The Rockets came back from twenty five down in the
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fourth quarter beat Philadelphia. In the last six weeks, the
Sixers have blown fourth quarter leads of twenty five and
twenty six points. Congratulations. Fifty two players now have scored
at least forty or more points in a game. That's
the most at this point in a season in the
last twenty years. Also, I was ready to watch Denver
(08:40):
against Golden State, and then all of a sudden, Joker
and Jamal Murray aren't playing, so I didn't watch Denver one.
I'm going if you're going to rest Joker and Jamal Murray,
do not rest them against Golden State. Rest them against
the Wizards, who they lost to over the week. Like,
(09:02):
let's just be fair to the audience. I'm sure they're
all tired and beat up. Let him sit in the
game against Washington. I know, you know, if you're gonna
rest him and then you've got a game against the
Lakers coming up, you could rest them against Washington and
then they play. I mean, this is what you we
We get ready for these games. We want to see
(09:24):
these matchups, and then all of a sudden, it's he's
not playing, Jamal Murray's not playing. All right, time to
play phil in the blank. Fill in the blank, Dylan,
I'll start with you. The NCAA tournament expansion is blank, lame, Seaton, blank, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
The chance for less teams to complain about not making
a tournament since there's already so many teams in the tournament.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Anyway, wordy, but I'll accept it. NCAA tournament expansion is blank, Paul,
months away. Baseball starting the season overseas is blank. By
the way, the Dodgers beating the Cubs today this morning,
Dylan lame, now good for the Dodgers, Seaton, lame.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
Marvin literally un American, Paul, easy to miss. I would
say disappointing.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Just just play spring training games a couple of spring
training games. Houston Rockets are blank Dylan, intriguing as a
flat Seaton, youthful Marvin, aawish. No, they used to be aauish.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
Yeah, like eighteen months ago, those guys were playing AAU basketball.
Now they're an NBA, Paul.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
The Houston Rockets are blank, good but a little faceless.
The Houston Rockets are dangerous. The Steelers starting quarterback next
season will be blank Dylan, uh, probably Aaron Rodgers, Seaton, Mason,
Rudolph Harvin.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
The guy who wears a Shawl.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Paul A Pro Bowl alternate MM alternate.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
The Steelers starting quarterback next season will be Mason Rudon.
Oh no, that's lad.
Speaker 9 (11:36):
Jump on board the bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Come on, buddy. Yeah. Calling in sick to watch the
tournament on Thursday is blank, Dylan.
Speaker 10 (11:45):
A waste of a sick day.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Just watch it at work, Seaton. I agree with it's
a waste of a sick day. Yeah. But there are
certain jobs where you can't watch the tournament though.
Speaker 11 (11:57):
Name one.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, like being a school teacher.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Oh, you're right, you can't watch that.
Speaker 10 (12:02):
You can't roll on the TV and put on the tournament.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Did you ever have a teacher who and and you know,
now decades after I was in high school, they might
have been hungover and then they would play a movie
but it had nothing to do with the class that
you were in. It would be like, uh, you know,
and I was part of the audio visual team, and
uh so you have to set up the TV monitor
(12:26):
and then all of a sudden you turn out the
lights and then you look over and you see mister strunk,
was you know, sound asleep? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, I had a religion teacher that sometimes if he
was in a bad mood. We would come in and
he would just be listening to Bob Marley.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
That's all we're doing today is listening to Bob Marley.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Sick.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (12:45):
My social study teacher brought in the VHS cassette and
we just watched Hoop Dreams.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh social studies. Yeah, social Yes, you.
Speaker 10 (12:53):
Can tell they were hungover if they didn't even have
the lights on when you got into the room.
Speaker 12 (12:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Call in sick to watch the tournament on Thursday is
what Marvin.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
Something, Ray and Dylan do.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, well, no, they're here. They don't call in sick.
They're here.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
But if they were like lawyers or doctors or something important,
that's something they would do.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
They could never become lawyer.
Speaker 10 (13:16):
No, no, I know, I know, I know in an
alternate universe they actually have lawyers.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
No doctors, though, calling in sick to watch the tournament
on Thursday is blank. Paul, to be commended, well, to
be Commendeday, I never did that call in sick. I'm
trying to think if I called in sick for oh
opening day, Red's opening day. I called in sick one
time and I went down there might have been nineteen
(13:44):
seventy and went down to Riverfront Stadium, big Red Machine. Yeah,
opening day, it was a big deal in noon start, Yes,
but would you.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Call in sick?
Speaker 13 (13:57):
Would you?
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Like in high school, did you ever call in sick
or sick?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
No, just that just going to see the reds one time.
But I don't think any Like my mom was on
to me, you know she you know, it'd be like,
all right, if you want to call in sick, you
call in sick, because I'd be like, oh man throat
early store, all right, you call in. And then I
was like, I don't want to call in the secretary,
(14:24):
you know, the principal's office. So I never did. But
she wasn't going to do it. She was not going
to do my dirty work. Yes, deal.
Speaker 10 (14:32):
Well, the worst would be if she's like, all right,
if you're that sick, I guess we're going to the
doctor today. Then you're like, well, not that sick.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Well no, my mom was not like Fritzie's mom where
you have a coffee. There would have been an ambulance. Yeah,
poor Fritzie. I mean his mom would take him to
the doctor no matter what happened. Like any he sneezed,
got to go to the doctor. I remember she was
disappointed that they didn't get shots one time, him and
his brother, and she told them that she wanted them
(15:03):
to get shots first. I don't know what it was,
but they weren't supposed to get shots. And he jokes
about getting his temperature taken wrecked at home.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
Yes, not even in a positions office. Yeah, I mean,
come on, that's a tough one. If all you did
was sneeze.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, well, hopefully not while you're getting that done.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
You just have a sore throat.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You might send that thermometer through a wall like a jabbler.
What was that Todd's getting his temperature taken rector? Alrighty,
this is why we don't win sports semis right here,
this is it? All right, We're gonna take a break.
Seth Davis from CBS Sports. He will Well, we got
(15:48):
a few college basketball things to talk about. More of
your phone calls as well. We're back after this.
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Speaker 2 (17:03):
On this date in nineteen ninety Loyal to Marymount beat
Michigan one forty nine to one fifteen, highest scoring game
in NCAA tournament history. Let's bringing Seth Davis he of
course from CBS Sports. You know, that Loyal and Marymount
team was so far ahead of everybody in basketball when
you think about what they were doing when they were
doing it. This is what the game is now, certainly
(17:26):
in the NBA.
Speaker 15 (17:28):
Yeah, and it's kind of you know, when you mention that,
you know, so many unbelievable memories obviously from not only
that team but that era, and it's it's interesting that
nobody has really tried to do that. Now we have
the analytics, and we have the three point shot and
the spacing and all of that, but just the frenetic
you know, early shot clock attempt no matter what. You know,
(17:51):
there's like that Division III school, Grinnell College is that
way and there's some dispute and it's an interesting conversation.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
Is that really basketball?
Speaker 15 (17:59):
I mean are they trying to win the thing about
that Loyal and Marrimount team is they were really good.
I mean they won a lot of games playing that way.
It's just interesting that you know, in today's era, especially
with the portal, you think a lot of players would
want to try to play that way.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But also it's a we want to take a three,
We'll give you a two. We're going to take a three.
And Paul West had, you know, had great shooters on
that team, great scores on that team, and really you
haven't seen anybody replicate that in Division one basketball, which
you know, given the fact that everybody wants shoot threes,
you would think that that would be something if they
(18:32):
found a couple of really good three in d guys,
that you'd be able to incorporate that. All right, I
got off on a tangent there. What if North Carolina
loses tonight?
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Seth, I do not like the better question.
Speaker 15 (18:45):
What if North Carolina makes the Sweet sixteen, does that
mean they deserve to get in?
Speaker 7 (18:49):
No, the tournament is nuts. Stopped trying to make sense.
Speaker 15 (18:53):
Everybody wants to make s Oh, Gonzaga, that means they
shouldn't have gotten Remember which tossed eight didn't get the
right seat on that show? No, No, no, no, no, no, the
tournament it all starts over again. There are a lot
of teams that are not in this tournament that could
win a few games. We've had two teams in the
last fourteen years go from the first four to the
final four. We don't need to get off another tangent.
(19:15):
But I happen to be a proponent of expansion partly
for this reason. I mean, imagine, by the way, Dan,
you know we've got two games tonight and two games
tomorrow night. How excited are your listeners about those games?
Maybe not really, But if there were six games today
and six games tomorrow, I think there'd be a lot
more excitement. But yeah, I encourage people, Please don't use
NCAA tournament results to retroactively justify whatever narrative you're trying
(19:38):
to create.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Could we have total transparency with the selection committee and
they would allow us to see and hear what goes
on behind the scenes. Is that asking too much invading
somebody's privacy to let us see, so there is no discrepancy,
so we do hear the arguments here?
Speaker 15 (19:59):
Right, So I start with this baseline, no matter what happens,
when that Brackett comes out, people are going to be pissed,
and some opportunistic governor is going to do whatever he does,
and everyone's going to get on social media. Everybody's going
to be pissed no matter what happens. I got half
my timeline, you know, criticizing me for fawning over the
(20:20):
committee and bub Bubba Cunningham when I asked him the
question on the selection show, and the other half things
that I am totally unfair, Duke hack who set him
up for an unfair question.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
It's just the nature of the zeit, guys.
Speaker 15 (20:32):
This happened with the college football playoff when Alabama didn't
get in. So I think the basketball committee, I think
the football is way behind on this, and I understand
this is the first year that they've done this. The
basketball committee in the nca in general, has been extremely
transparent about the process. Why do you think there are
two hundred and fifty or five hundred bracketologists out there
(20:52):
all using the numbers everything is out there. At the
end of the day, it becomes very subjective. You get
seven teams for three spots, right, that's the math. And
so I've actually frankly talked to them about putting a
pool reporter in the room so they can report on
the person in the room can report on that, at
least maybe for the bracketing because everybody has a million conspiracies,
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are you just they obviously obviously they just want to
set up Platino in Calipari. You know, they used to
and they haven't done this in a while then, And
they actually used to do a mock selection where they
bring in members of the media such as myself, put
them in the actual committee room on the actual committee computers,
and have them go through, you know, a truncated process
so we all understand what the process is at the
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end of the day. I get the argument that, hey,
these are big decisions, and we want people to be
able to speak freely, and if there's a camera in
the room, they can't speak freely and have a real
candid discussion about things. It's a very difficult position to
be in because you know they're subject to such criticisms.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
So look, I disagree with the North Carolina decision.
Speaker 15 (21:56):
By the way, go to all these bracketologist who are
up in arms. All of them had Carolina in their
first four out. Many of them had Carolina as their
first team out or their second team out. And every
year there is a team that comes sort of from
further down the list. But people don't expect to be
in it's a little unfortunate that this year that team
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happened to be the school where not just someone on
the committee, but the.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Actual chair of the committee is.
Speaker 15 (22:24):
The ad from that school, and he's gotten an incentive
in his contract. It's all Bubba mice. Dan, I disagree,
but that doesn't make it corrupt.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, I just there's so much money at stake, there's
jobs at stake, you know. I just I want to
make sure they get it right. It's just like the
college football playoffs. I want to make sure they get
it right.
Speaker 15 (22:45):
Wouldn't you agree that that there is no right at
the end of the day. It's otherwise. The better answer, Dan,
would be, let's not have any human beings do it.
Let's have an algorithm and let's plug in the numbers
and let's let the AI computer or whatever will use
your image AI generated to you know, but why even have.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
People in the room.
Speaker 15 (23:06):
It's subjective. You're going to get what the football went
from four to twelve. That means whoever's thirteen is going
to be mad.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
It's just it's just math.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Okay, So why don't we do that? Or why don't
we let Vegas decide who are the teams that should
be in.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
There's a case for that.
Speaker 15 (23:23):
Listen, I've made the case, and I'll give Joe Lonardi
credit for being one of the first to really say this.
People talk about the eye test. I don't think there
should be an eye test. Oh look at them. They
both like, you see your vine and you see San Diego.
Look at this game, they both. Have you seen every
team play every game this year? Because I watch a
lot of basketball and I haven't done that, but those
numbers have seen that. So you know, there is some
(23:46):
subjectivity built into the really on the fringes of the process.
You know, ninety percent of what happens and who's in
and where they're seated and where they play is pretty
baked in. So it's only in that last maybe ten
percent where you get genuine human subjectivity. And as long
as you have that, people are going to be mad.
They're going to have conspiracy theories. Oh, we should have
(24:06):
basketball people on the committee. We should have non NCAA
people on the committee.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Blah blah blah. Win enough games and you don't have
to worry about it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Seth Davis from CBS Sports joining us. Let's say Duke
doesn't win the National title. Let's say Duke maybe bounds
out in the Elite eight. Is there a scenario where
Cooper Flag would come back to Duke?
Speaker 15 (24:26):
In your opinion, there's a better chance that I will
play for Duke next year. And by the way, I
do have eligibility that Cooper Flag there is zero chance.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
And he should.
Speaker 15 (24:38):
I would not suggest that anybody make that kind of
a decision based on the NCAA tournament and what happens
in the postseason. Who knows what happens in this tournament.
He's going to be the number one pick in the draft. Yes,
he can make good money coming back to Duke. He
can make exponentially more going to the NBA. You know,
when Zion Williamson was about to make his announcement, he said, well,
(25:00):
we don't know how serious he really was, but he
actually talked to Coach k about this, and he said,
what if.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
I come back?
Speaker 15 (25:06):
Like I had such fun like what if I come back?
And Ka basically told him, well, you don't have a
scholarship here and you don't have a roster here.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
I don't want that on me. Go pro go make
your hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
So let's Cooper flyg get paid.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
That's a great question, and he wants transparency. That's what
I'd like to know.
Speaker 15 (25:22):
I would guess neighborhood of eight million all in right between.
He's probably getting two from Duke and their whole collective.
I mean, he's got his own new Balance.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
He's got to get more from Duke than the guy
at Kansas State got two million dollars.
Speaker 15 (25:37):
He got two million dollars from their collective. But Cooper
Flag is a unicorn in terms of his market. I
mean he's got his own shoe deal, he's at the
signature Nike's school, and he's got a new Balance deal.
Speaker 16 (25:48):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
That's my hat's off the hip man.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
But but you don't want to Brown.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
I want to shout at his agent at SAA, that's
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You don't want to go to the Wizards though.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
You know what, It's funny.
Speaker 15 (25:59):
I grew up a Wizards fan, and I went down
to Durham to interview Cooper Flag and a couple of
guys for Fox Sports.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
I said to him, I said, you look pretty good
in the Wizard's uniform, but.
Speaker 15 (26:09):
They're not gonna win. Look, it would be the most
Wizards thing ever to not not they're gonna pick third
or whatever whatever the lowest on.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
We weren't you a Bullets fan before then they became
because I remember seeing the ball the Bullets with Wes
Unseld and Phil and Elvin Hayes.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Elvin Hayes, Yeah.
Speaker 15 (26:28):
Do you remember the old Capital Center with that sort
of concave. Yeah, yeah, out in Landover, Maryland. My dad
of those games back in the day. We are old,
d and we are old.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
The transfer portals effect on college basketball, good or bad?
Speaker 15 (26:44):
I think it's I think on balance it's been very good.
I think that I would like to see maybe for
the second time transfer you have to sit out of here.
That's really what happened. People talk about the portal. The
portal is just a database that allows everybody to see
who wants to transfer, who doesn't, and help you to
get in touch. What really happened was it used to
(27:06):
be if you transferred, you had to sit out a year,
and it was only in like a couple of sports.
So they got rid of that, and then they said, oh, okay,
on the second transfer, you have to sit out of here,
but we're going to have exceptions for hardships and then
everybody's uncle got super sick and they had to, you know,
go live near the uncle, and.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
So they ended up getting rid of that.
Speaker 15 (27:26):
That's part of why, you know, I'm hoping at some
point it seems inevitable then they just make them employees,
let them unionize, get a collective bargaining agreement, and maybe
maybe it gets rectified that way. But you know, I
see and I understand, like when people will say, oh,
you know, these mid major teams, they have a great player,
and then he can just transfer up, and that's not
(27:47):
fair to the mid major schools, but they can also
get transfers from schools who are in lower divisions. And
by the way, a lot of these players start off
at those power conference schools and don't get a lot
of minutes and they end up transferring down. So I
don't think there's been any change in that regard. The
best players are always going to go to the schools
with the best resources, and so it's sort of manifesting
(28:10):
itself differently. But this is as far as I'm concerned,
it's been that way since the beginning of time.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, look at Drake, they took players from Division two
to fill out that roster. So you're right, you can
go down lower if you need to give me the
sneaky give me two or three sneaky teams that they
may not get to the final four, but they're going
to create some havoc.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Well, Drake is definitely one of them.
Speaker 15 (28:34):
You know, Ben McCollum came from D two, won national
championships there, brought four players. And by the way, you
see San Diego as another team, I've got them going
to the sweet sixteen. Actually this is their fourth year
in Division one, but there's a transition period about being
so is their first year being eligible for the tournament.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Yeah, so those are hungry.
Speaker 15 (28:53):
But a lot of those guys came from a Division
two as well. What I like about Drake dan and
maybe this is someone that all the bracket filler routers
can look out for. I like I do like teams
that is slow tempo because it's you get these stylistic contrasts.
So they're playing Missouri, which likes to get out and go,
and you know basketball better than anyone. It's much easier
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to take a team that wants to run and slow
them down then take a team that wants to play
slow and try to speed them up. So Saint Mary's
is another team that plays a slow tempo liberty. They're
playing Oregon in the first round, and that's my first
round upset.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
I really like.
Speaker 15 (29:29):
High Point as a thirteen seed. They won their league
last year, lost in the conference tournament, brought a lot
of those guys back. They got a guy Bobby Pettiford
who played at Kansas Ye now coming off their bench,
and they won all year. They won their league by
three games. And then McNeice is the other one. Will
Wade's got some serious, serious high major athletes. I like
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high Point because they go seven feet six' eight in
the front court and they're six.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Man is a stretch for six.
Speaker 15 (29:58):
Nine a lot of times those mid major team teams
don't have the size up front.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
That some of the high majors. ONE does i Like
the panthers Of.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
High point give me the vulnerable number, One, SEED.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Well i Think.
Speaker 15 (30:10):
IT'S auburn, I mean i think there's any question that
they've lost. THEIR edge i think the mantle of being
as good as, they are as good as they've been
in that league. All, season now, you know maybe they know.
Rejuvenate themselves auburn is an, Amazing, story dan and that
all of, those guys they got, one guy a freshman
point guard To hot petterford comes off.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
The bench he was a.
Speaker 15 (30:30):
Top recruit everybody else. ARE ted, I Mean jeni broom
is the player of, the year spent his first two
Seasons At. MOREHEAD state, i mean they got guys who
transferred Into from. Division Two, Chad baker mazara came from.
Junior college so they kind of they need to get,
that back like that chip on. Their shoulder they're much
better like, seat biscuit, you know trying to play.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
From behind should there be an age? CEILING that i
think the point Guard for creighton is? Twenty four is that?
THAT right, i mean should we get to the, point where,
you know maybe.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Twenty, THREE well i don't think it should.
Speaker 15 (31:07):
BE age, i, DO obviously i think it should. Be eligibility,
and again this is why we just need to get to,
collective bargaining because the Governor Of, west virginia, YOU know,
i mean what makes you more popular as a politician
or attorney general prosecutor than, you know sticking up for
athletes AGAINST.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
The ncaaa one thing that is going to happen.
Speaker 15 (31:26):
Next year the whole sport's going to get younger because
this is the last year of the QUOTE Unquote. Covid
senior everybody got an extra year of eligibility.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
BECAUSE.
Speaker 15 (31:38):
Of covid so you got guys who are playing and
if like you had a medical, red shirt but now
like they're trying to make it so and these judges
are helping them out that the junior college doesn't count against.
Your clock so you can play two years in junior
college and now and now have five to play Four in.
Division one that's not going.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
To last. IT'S craziness i.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Tell you we'll talk to you during. The tournament always
great to connect.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
With you, Love, you dan thanks for having me on
and joy.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
The tournament, Thank You Sam SETH. Davis cbs we'll come
back last call for, phone calls what, we learned what's
in store tomorrow, after this.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Be sure to catch the live Edition Of The Dan
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Speaker 2 (32:20):
Wap, UH so i got my, bracket here don't fill
it out. Until tomorrow at at the end of, the
show at the end, of business a couple of phone
calls in here and let. Me see How about Kennedy.
And Nebraska, hi kennedy how were you?
Speaker 17 (32:38):
This?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Morning hey?
Speaker 17 (32:40):
Pretty good and, first Off Happy?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
New, year, no, no no we don't, do that.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Thank.
Speaker 17 (32:47):
You no you guys mentioned earlier What jobs dan Camp Watch?
March madness? That WORKED and i think you guys said
teachers aren't able to and as a Teacher, IN nebraska
i can tell you it can be and. Is done
(33:08):
that's kind of why extra credit. WAS invented i think
to keep an eye on the kids at the desk
and keep an eye on creating a.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Newis though, all, right well Thank you kennedy sounds like
a teacher who probably gives his students a chance to
watch basketball. Extra credit Jack, in. Michigan hijack what's on your? Mind? Today?
Speaker 12 (33:31):
HEY dan i think people are making too big of
a Deal About. North carolina everybody's getting bent out. Of
shape they're not going to be around. That long we
don't have to worry. About them AND then i thought
about you guys and how you have such an extensive background,
in MUSIC and i thought there's probably, a musical a
(33:54):
song about every team in, the tournament and this One
and linda had this to Say.
Speaker 11 (34:02):
About carolina, Thank, YOU jack i respect.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
The effort. Nailed, it yep he did. Nailed It jim Jim,
In California, hi jim, Good.
Speaker 12 (34:24):
Morning dan how are you this?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
All spectacular.
Speaker 18 (34:28):
Hey to i'm glad you mentioned it a little. Bit ago.
About baseball it's lame And. Un americans you have the
opening day of our national pastime in a country other
Than The united States. Of america never mind an opening
Day on march. The eighteenth they should play exhibition games
over there and start like they usually do In The
(34:50):
united States. Of america AND.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
The nfl, oh okay oh we lost HIS quick nfl, Take. There.
Marvin yeah SEE.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
That's i FEEL like i have more of a problem
not with where baseball's opening, day is but the timing.
Of it they hate, that it's, you know weeks before the.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
SEASON starts i just don't think it's fair to.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
These teams what do you have and if you're having
these games count and then you play a bunch of
games and then they, don't count and then you play
games that do, count again what the hell for.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Are you trying to tell me that the best baseball
Fan in japan is going to go now it's, a
preseason it's. Spring training i'm not going to. Watch that
they will show up and they will sell that. Place
out at least be fair to the players who have
a couple. Of weeks now you have to go back
and go back into spring. Training mode IT'S just i don't.
LIKE it i understand Why the dodgers want to, do
(35:45):
It absolutely and, you know if You're the cubs and
you want to try to establish a foothold, over there
and maybe you know you're able to get. More players
they have a Couple of. JAPANESE players i understand all.
Of that i'm all about growing, the game but care of,
you know your fan who's been with you. For decades
you can still grow. The game but if You're a,
(36:07):
dodger fan were you getting up at three in, the
morning four in. THE morning, i mean if you're going
over there For, the dodgers then think About the. Dodgers
fans let's see this day and. Sports history pauling.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Eighteen, Ninety Two, Frederick Arthur lord Stanley, of preston announced
that he had purchased a trophy to be presented To
The hockey Champion, Of canada guess what they, named It The. Stanley,
cump yeah very nice of him to not open up To.
Other lord and then nineteen SEVENTY the Nfl selected wilson
to be the official football and scoreboard as the.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Official, time okay let ME see i mentioned a couple of.
Basketball Ones, michael jordan perhaps you've heard. Of him nineteen
ninety five announced that he is ending his SEVENTEEN month
Nba retirement Mike. And, Florida, hi mike what's on your? Mind?
Speaker 16 (36:56):
Today, DANIEL first i want to thank you for all
your great interviews over. The years you make people at
ease and that you go in directions that nobody else
would go into and you get stuff out of them
that nobody can get out. Of THEM so i really
appreciate your interviews over.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
The, years well thank you, Very, Much mike.
Speaker 16 (37:13):
You're welcome but and the, net rankings that's the ONLY
thing i want. To investigate and let me give. You
example at the first of, The year houston lost their
first three quad one games and they were still in
net rankings. Number three now you explain that. To me
how can you lose the zero to three and quad
one wins that are supposed to? Be important and still
(37:33):
be ranked in the. Net rankings. Number three that. Just
throws it's garbage in and. GARBAGE out i would rather
see people who like ex coaches who maybe call these
a lot of these games and watch dozens because they
call the games.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
They it, you know there's a no win situation, those
players those coaches may, play favorites or we would infer
that they're. Playing Favorites jim beheim's on. The program we'll
see what. HE says rg three will. Stop by what
did you, Learn Today Dylan.
Speaker 10 (38:05):
General booty's middle Name, is axel which is also the
most normal of his.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Three Names, Uh, Seaton yeah axel. In there. It's underappreciated marvin.
Speaker 8 (38:16):
Mel Kiper Loved Jackson, Dart.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Paul It's robert griffin, the third And It's Jim. BEHEIM
junior i just.
Speaker 16 (38:21):
Found it
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