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This just in the Tush push has been pushed back
to May. They have tabled it. There will be no
vote today or they didn't have the requisite votes that
they wanted to and now it will be tabled until May.
So the Tush push is still alive, barely. Yukon in
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Texas advance in the Women's Final four. Big night for
torpedo bats last night, especially Ellie Dela Cruz. The NFL
Competition Committee voting on rule changes. They are going to
have the touchback started the thirty five yard line on
kickoffs instead of the thirty. They're trying to encourage more
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DP Show operator Tyler sitting by Seaton. Poll question and
then we'll get to Jeff Passion of ESPN. Yeah, we
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got one here.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Prediction today brother Lishav will be.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Made legal or illegal.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
That's holding at about fifty five percent saying it'll be
made illegal.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, it's now tabled. So what's the pen of week
poll question for the final Well, they weren't going to
you go into those situations. If you're the commissioner, you
want to know what the result's going to be before
you walk into it. And he probably realized he was
not going to get the support that probably he needed
to get rid of the tush push.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
In my opinion, Todd's got one here that says torpedo
bats will be dot dot dot used more and more,
become a common thing or banned in the.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Not too distant future.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Hmmm, we're going basically with a legal illegal set of
poll questions today.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Let's bring in Jeff pass into the mothership. How did
we get here, Jeff? Where torpedo bats are all of
a sudden all the rage? When when was the first
torpedo bat used in Major League Baseball in.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
The twenty twenty four season. I believe it was John
Carlos sam And.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
You know when he had that October that he had
last year in seven home runs fourteen games, And like,
I feel like a clown honestly that I didn't notice
it because it's such a different implement right like you
see it, especially with Jazz Chisholm. It just looks different,
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and clearly it's hitting different for some of these Yankees players.
And fifteen home runs over the first three games. It's
I mean, it was quite the showing by that team.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
What is the approval process for something like this that
using this bat and then getting Major League Baseball to
sign off on it.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
It's actually a lot simpler than you would think. There
are forty one manufacturing companies that are allowed by Major
League Baseball's approval process to make bats, and as long
as you have bats within specific specs. It can't be
longer than forty two inches, the barrel can't be bigger
than two point sixty one inches in diameter, the handle
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has to be i think point eighty six inches. As
long as within those parameters, and it remains a smooth cylinder.
You can kind of distribute the weight however you want.
And honestly, I'm surprised that it took this long for
it to happen because the logic behind it that Aaron Leonard,
who's now a coach with the Miami Marlins and was
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with the Yankees at the time and is an MIT
educated physics professor. Like the logic that he had, it's
kind of simple. Imagine a bat as something where you
have a wood budget, right, you have a specific amount
of weight and mass to distry you over this implement,
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how do you want to spend your budget? Where do
you want to put the majority of the wood or
the majority of the mass. It kind of makes sense
to put it where you strike the ball most frequently,
and that's about six or seven inches down from the
end of the bat. And you know, it's it's like,
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this is such a baseball thing because we're caught up
in the idea of what the game is supposed to
look like, and yet we're in an era where teams
are looking for every tiny, minuscule marginal advantage imaginable because
they understand that that one percent might be the difference
between them winning a game and not winning a game.
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And so for them to do this, it was really
just a matter of time. And more than that, this
reminds me a lot of back when the Rays started
using the opener. Right, like any other organization, you would
have tried to do that with the pictures of what
we're going to start a relief picture. What's what's the
point of this? Like you need buy in. And that's
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where Aaron Leonard started this whole process. He went to
players and he said, Okay, how do we counteract the
incredible pitching that exists in baseball right now? Like what
can we do? What would you like? And the players
all got back to him and they said the same thing,
we would like like a bigger sweet spot. And so
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that's what they did. They went out and they made
a better mouse trap.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Okay, but it's available for everybody, correct.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Totally, absolutely, it's be I mean we saw it with
Eli Dela Cruz last night. You know, I had talked
with a couple of bat manufacturers yesterday, like they've been
preparing for this, Like they went around during spring training
this year, and there was a whole lot more intrigue
among players beyond just the Yankees, to the point where
you know, all of them, all of the major ones
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at least had the ability to now turn a bat
like this on their leads. And so this is going
to answer the poll question. This is going to be common,
and this is going to be something that is the
new normal in baseball now. Is everyone going to use it. No,
of course not, because bats are all about feel. And
if a guy orders a torpedo bat and he's all
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in on it and then he goes over six, you know,
he might say, I'm going to throw this into the woodpile,
burn it. I don't ever want to see it again.
But guys who were finding success this early, they're going
to lean into it. And I think I'm not going
to say this is directly attributable to the torpedo bat.
But it would not surprise me to see an increase
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in offense in baseball this year on account of better
equipment and baseball.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Can't you have a problem with that if there's more
often No.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
No, it's just it's always a matter of balance, right,
Like we've seen this in sports in the past. You
know when Sam Makita curves is stick back in the
nineteen sixties and Bobby Hole was using a curve stick
as well of the NHL to put rules into place
on curvature because too much imbalanced the game. When we
saw swimmers wearing those full body suits in the Olympics
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and they were breaking world records all over the place,
it's like, okay, is this where we want our sport
to go to a place where technology is not just
taking over, but taking it to an area that we
never imagine and that throws off that natural balance. So
baseball is always monitoring that sort of thing. But considering
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where offense sam has gone in recent years, yeah, they
can use an injection of it, because pitching is so
damn good these days.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Talking to Jeff Passing, the ESPN senior Baseball insider, speaking
of pitching, I was wondering, I'm always of I guess
the awareness of things will come back around, like rushing
attempts in the NFL, like the running back would come back,
and we saw that last year. I'm wondering if there's
going to be a comeback for a starting pitcher but
he's not starting a game. I start a game with relievers,
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but I get to the fourth inning, and now I
bring in a guy who's built for the rest of
the game. Because some pictures like Mariona Rivera was not
a starting pitcher, but he became the greatest closer of
all time. Certain guys are really good at closing. Other guys,
you know, Hurt Shilling wasn't a good closer, became a
great starter. So I wonder could you see somebody who
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still keeps alive the workhorse pitcher in baseball?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I think here's the flaw of that specific argument. I
do believe to be clear that there is room for
a workhorse starting pitcher. Still, I think it's going to
take an organization that has a risk profile that trends
more toward risky, because you know, pictures get hurt, like
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that's the thing. But the issue I have with bringing
a guy in in the fourth inning is that by
the time he's in the eighth or ninth, he's going
to be going the third time through the order, right,
And the beauty of relief pitching is that it's a
new look that you haven't gotten a chance to see
this guy, and it's brand new stuff, and you don't
know what's humming that day, and you don't know what
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might be a mediocre pitch that day, Like it's a
fresh start. Whereas if you have that starter in in
the fourth ending, you know, the starter in the fourth inning,
and bring him in by the end, he's going to
be more tired generally, you know, unless you're like prime
justin Verland, or the christness of your pitches are not
quite the same in the latter innings as they were
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in the former so and especially because those eighth and
ninth innings are the highest leverage spots in the game,
Like every run matters, right, A run in the first
is equivalent to a run in the ninth. But when
those twenty seven outs start taking down to twenty four
and twenty one and eighteen and down to you know,
nine and six and three, there's more value in that.
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There's more opportunity to win the game at that and
that's when you want your freshest arms as opposed to
guys who have been grinding through for one hundred pitches.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
What do we call the A's.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I mean, I'm happy to call them the West Sacramento A's,
Like I know they don't want that, but we tend
to have this thing in American sports where you have
the city and then the nickname and not having one
of those things, even with like the reds concerning it
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to the Washington football team, like there's something after the city.
So not acknowledging or recognizing the city outside of a
patch on your shoulder, it's bush. But you know that's
kind of how the A's operate. It's a bush organization.
And they you know, they're squatting in a minor league
ballpark for three years right now, and it's super weird.
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And that is the expected consequence of twenty years of
failure to build a stadium where frankly they should have
and where a stadium was warranted. But John Fisher wanted
to go to Vegas, and I like, I get it.
There's money to be made there, there's a stadium to
be built there. But it's going to be a weird
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interim period. In the meantime.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I hope they get to host a playoff game.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Me too. I am with you on that. Did you
see the media ten.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, look good, look very accommodating. We're calling them the
Triple A's so oh.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
But they're better than that. That's like, they're going to
be a decent team this year.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Here's the stat for you before I let you go.
In nineteen ninety five, Tony Gwynn had five hundred and
eighty five plate appearances. He struck out fifteen times.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
In twenty twenty five, Rafael Deever has struck out fifteen
times in nineteen at bats.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah, I could you know. I love those numbers. I
also think that comparing anyone to Tony Gwynn is badly unfair,
because that guy, he was one of the kind. And
I you know, I love modern baseball. I would love
to drop Tony Gwynn into twenty twenty five to see
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what he would look like like. Would he have at
all embraced the notion of launch angle and the exit
velocity or would he just be like Luisa or Eyes,
perfectly happy to go around and just bat three twenty
every year.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I think Gwynn would probably bat three twenty, but he
would hit thirty home runs. Yeah, I think he hit
twenty home runs. And I mean this is a guy
who stole fifty bases in a season. I think he
hit twenty home runs. I remember Wade Boggs telling me
if they want me to hit, if they wanted me
to hit home runs, I would hit home runs. But
there's no better guy in taking a ball to left
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field than Wade Boggs was, and that's what he was
paid to do.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
And that's this. This goes full circle then with the
torpedo bats, because the thing is when you redistribute the
wood down to the sweet spot, that means there's less
wood in other areas of that that do like make
contact with the ball right. And so this is players
saying that I am going to deprioritize contact for hard contact.
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I'm going to give up some of those balls that
are just a little bit off the sweet spot in
order for the other ones to be doubles and triples
and home runs. And it's a very simple reason, because
slug pays, and if you can hit the ball for
power and have a high slugging percentage, you are going
to get paid in arbitration, you are going to get
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paid in free agency. You are going to end your
career in a much better position financially than somebody who
goes out and hits three twenty with a low slugging percentage.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Great to talk to you as always. Thank you, Jeff.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Pleasure is mine, dam and the lime green.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
My God, thank you, thank you, thank you, I thank
you saying that's great as by god? Is that a compliment,
Jeff Passon of the mother Ship? Noteworthy? Yeah, once again,
this was my gift for being in the Adam Sandler
movie Happy Gilmore two. Not a lot of people have those,
(14:12):
No they don't, just saying no they don't. But Sandman
gave this to me, I think it's double X like
this is this might be Sandler's. I gonna say game
warn no, it could be movie worn. But I remember
he had one on the set and I go, oh,
I like that. He goes, Danny, you're getting one. I said, oh, okay,
I'm getting updates though, and happy Gilmore and uh he
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just said uh he said, Danny hg.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Strong.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
That was the text last night after I saw him
playing basketball, you know, pickup game in New York City.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Yes, PAULI, I'm seeing reports of a July twenty fifth, Yeah,
release date.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, there was a if somebody had
misinformation and it was going to be like March, and
I go, it's not March. They won't get it done
by then because I was doing my part, what in
December or something like that. I said that that's not happening,
and it's you know, you wanted around the fourth of July.
You want it to be a summer blockbuster, yes, Marvin, Yeah, so.
Speaker 8 (15:18):
When are we going to the premiere?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Probably the twenty fifth, if they have a New York
and La premiere, and I'll see what I can do,
maybe pull some strings there, see if I can get
you guys yet. If not, then you guys can go
to the premiere and then I'll go into the premiere
and then I'll come out when I'm done and then
see you guys.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
So we got to be next to Kevin Frazier, Dan, Dan, Yeah, yeah,
like you don't know us.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
That would be great if you guys were credentialed and
you guys were interviewing people. You're on the red carpet,
Todd interviewing people on the red carpet.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
How long did it take.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
To get in here?
Speaker 8 (15:52):
What's the transit schedule?
Speaker 6 (15:53):
You take the train?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, it's funny how none of the guys would get
interviewed on the Red carpet by Todday.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
I have a tendency to lean towards talking, chatting up
the win.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
How about we take a break and we'll come back
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Speaker 2 (17:13):
That's Covino and Rich recapping some of the items from
the NFL owners meetings. The Tush Push will be tabled
till May and then they'll try to bring it back
to life again see if they get the requisite votes
to be able to maybe get rid of it. That's
the feeling that I get. Also, there's going to be
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three games on Christmas Day, two on Netflix, one on
Amazon Prime. The kickoff touchback will now go from the
thirty to the thirty five yard line as they try
to encourage more kickoff returns. Those are just some of
the headlines there. Also overtime, both teams will get the ball.
Remember it was sudden death overtime and then it became overtime.
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It's like instant replay became replay because it was an
instant and now it's not sudden death overtime. It's we'll
get around to it overtime. But both teams now get
the ball on overtime. And I guess if your team
is trailing with an on side kick, they were looking
at voting on that as well. On side kick is
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one of my favorite plays in all the sports. It's
rarely successful, but it gives you hope, and you've taken
hope out of the game late in the game, and
I hate that. I know it's all about player safety,
player safety, player safety, it's also about entertainment too. Damn it,
where's my entertainment?
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
See, especially the surprise onside kick. That's when it's really like.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Even when you see it coming a mile away and
you're like, hey, they get this back, they might be
onto something, it's still great. But then all of a sudden,
when there's that random surprise one, that's great.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, I agree. All right, So that's the NFL owners meetings.
But I guess they have things to decide discuss, and
then you'll get all of these people together and then
you start to talk about Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers.
There's video out there Rogers playing catch, I guess with
DK metcalf. How does that work? Does Rogers go, Hey,
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you want to catch? You go to a local park
and you go, oh be damn DK metcaal where he's going, Hey,
I'm just gonna run some sprints. Hey there's Aaron Rodgers.
Hey erin, I want to throw me some passes. Happen
to be at least one camera there, Yes, Tod, is
it rude for DK to say, Hey, when you sign
with the Steelers, want to play with us, I'll have
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to catch the Yeah, I'm sorry I'm here to meet
Mason Rudolph, not you, Aaron. Okay, you sign with us
and then we can play catch. Let me see Daniel
in California. Hi, Daniel, what's on your on today?
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Hey? Good morning, Dan?
Speaker 10 (19:54):
They should taking my call? Sure, I heard you get
a little tennis earlier. And being the tennis fan that
I am, I think this is an opportunity to pose
a question to the sports historians that are Dan and
the Dan at MMM, so you can certainly make the
case the three greatest tennis players of all time, or
three out of the four Mount Rushmore tennis players all
played in the same era at the peak of their
abilities in fed It All and Joker, each holding at
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least twenty Grand Slams, with Sampers coming in next with
only fourteen. My question is only still impressive fourteen. My
question is can you think of any other sport in
which three of the four Mount Rushmore players and their
respective sport, whoever you think they may be played during
the same time.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You could probably look at basketball with Bill Russell and
Wilt Chamberlain, but people you know, they don't include Wilt
in the conversation. As you know, among the greatest players
of all time. They just don't. He's one of those
Oh yeah, Wilt, but his numbers are Babe Ruthian. But
we do acknowledge Babe Ruth stats, but we don't really
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acknowledge Will Chamberlain stats like they're two preposterous. You're like, wait, eight,
you had fifty five rebounds in a game. Come on,
you scored one hundred and come on, we didn't do
that with Babe Ruth. It's like, yeah, he had it.
Sixty home runs, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
In the NBA. I think championships mean more to somebody's
greatness than anything else. How many home I mean, you
know how many World Series Willie Mace have I don't know,
or Babe Ruth or Mickey Mantle, I don't know, but
you know the numbers. And I think numbers, especially from yesteryear,
was way more important in baseball when determining who's the
best player.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
But why is it we don't look at baseball and
count your championships, but in basketball we do, and football
at the quarterbacking position we do. So there's certain sports,
certain players or positions that we look at differently, And
is that fair to everybody else? Like Barry Bonds didn't win,
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Hank Aaron won one World Series name Willie Mays didn't win?
What did he have one or two World Series titles?
But then he had the Yankees winning everything. Does that
mean they were better players or they on better teams?
The Celtics, those guys all won championships. I mean, if
you didn't have four or five, you're like left out
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of the party here. Now you'd kill to have four
or five times. I mean, here's Lebron with four and
he's amongst the greatest players of all time. So once
again we pick and choose how we use the eras
with the arguments there. But you could make a case
at some point that Oscar Jerry, Bill Russell and Will
Chamberlain were the best players of all time. And then
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of course you had Larry and you had Magic, and
then you had Mike and then that all of a
sudden changed everything there. But there was a point in time.
But yes, the caller is right about tennis that those three.
You know, Rod Laver is still to me among the
greatest players of all time. He could do it on
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any surface, and you know, just health and conditioning and
everything that's gone on with these But these three tennis players.
That's incredible because I thought Pete Sampris was the greatest
I ever saw, and then all of a sudden, when
Pete told me about Roger Feederer, and I said, what
do you think about Roger Feeder? He said, I don't
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even think of doing the shots that he does and
is successful. And that told me everything I needed to
know about Federer. Here's Pete saying, you know, I can't
even come up with the thought of trying to pull
that off, and he does and that separates him.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Yeah, Pauling going back to the caller with all time
greats at the same time. It's not exactly, but Joe Montana,
Dan Marino, and John Elway entering the league in the
early eighties kind of at the same time, two in
the same draft. Was like, those are three of the
greatest resume. I know Dan Marino's not there, but if
you talk about great quarterback play, those three are up
there with the all times.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Well, Dan Marino is I don't I'll be careful when
I say this, but he changed the game the way
Steph Curry has changed the game, like he changed the
quarterbacking position. Five wide shotgun quick release nobody was doing
what he was doing. Dan Marino was way ahead of
his time. And you know he didn't have the team's success.
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You know, they got blown out in his one Super
Bowl visit, but if you he would be one of
those guys where you talk to other quarterbacks and you say, man,
I wanted to be like him. I mean, Montana was
wonderful and Farv and all the great guys, you know,
but Dan Marino changed the game because it didn't look
like that. And then Danny just spread everything out and
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was going to pick you apart. And they weren't throwing
these little short passes he had duper and Clayton not more.
It wasn't necessarily using the running back out of the backfield.
He was taking shots down the field.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
Yes, marn damn Moreno's record of forty eight touchdowns it
stood into a two thousand and seven you know, crazy
that sounds. You threw forty eight touchdowns at five thousand
yards in nineteen eighty four where it was three yards
in a cloud of dust.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
But he made it look easy. Yeah, he did. I
don't know what the second place, you know, maybe Warren Moon.
What was his touchdown total that year? That Marino had
forty eight touchdowns. Was that eighty four that he threw
for forty eight? Yeah, Pauling, Yeah, damn.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
Ma Reno had forty eight touchdowns that year. Second place
was thirty two touchdowns. All right, let's see who can
get this kind of a bit of a journeyman long
Pastorini No, oh man, I'm gonna give you three points
for that kind of a journeyman player had a nice
bounce around career. He had thirty two touchdowns with Seattle
in nineteen eighty four. Jim zorn Post Zorn Era Zornish
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another great reference by you, okay. Dave Craig of Seattle
had thirty two bonus coverage. Neil Lomax of Saint Louis
was third with twenty eight times.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Lomax Glenn Dicky fifth.
Speaker 11 (26:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America.
The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show how
many pitchers threw at least one pitch one hundred miles
per hour last season? Because I was I was curious
how common it is the number of pitchers, because we
were talking about serves of one hundred and fifty miles
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an hour slapshots over one hundred miles an hour, those
kind of things, you know, a golf swing of one
hundred and twenty miles per hour. How many pitchers had
at least one pitch of over one hundred miles an
hour Marvin thirty eight.
Speaker 12 (27:00):
I think Paul sixty six, Seaton twenty five, Todd forty two,
sixty two, sixty two pitchers through at least one pitch
that was one hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Stat of the day, stat of the day, that past
stat of the day, stat of the day, Here comes,
here comes that? What stat of the day? Mike in La, Hi, Mike,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (27:30):
And I wanted to call in because I heard you
talking about Wilt Chamberlain. And just last week we released
a book published by Mama's Kitchen Press out of Austin,
Texas called Shooting Stars at Sky And there are two
poems about Gwilt in it, one that I wrote, he
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was my hero growing up on a farm in Indiana.
Speaker 14 (27:54):
The other is by Tom mis Sherry, who was on
the team with Guilt and Wilts scored one hundred points
and the poem has helped Milt's one hundred point game
Miss Sherry's a great poet's They used to call him
the Matt Rush And I don't know if you remember him,
but he's got four poems in the book and it's
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a beautiful collection. I was the editor and Mama's Kitchen
Press is the publisher.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
All right, Well, thank you, Mike. Yes, Tom was an enforcer,
had a nice big mustache. He's one of those guys
who would set picks. Yeah, they used to have guys that.
That's what they did. They set picks. It's like Rick Mahorn.
Rick Mahorn set a pick and when he did, you
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got picked. Ouch. Let me see what else Kyle and Vermont.
Good morning, Kyle. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 15 (28:50):
Good morning, Tyla? Is I have an obscure stat of
the day.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
All right?
Speaker 15 (28:55):
Tony Gwynn, in his basketball playing career at San Diego
State University, had five hundred and ninety total assists his
major league career four hundred and thirty four strikeouts.
Speaker 16 (29:10):
Okay, stand of a day, stant of a day, start
out a day, scant out a day.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
This is the style of the day. We are drunk
with stats today, But I'm surprised Tony Gwynn stuck out
four hundred times in his career. To be honest with you,
I I you know, so twenty years, twenty strikeouts a year,
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all right, So if you're averaging whatever, twenty nine strikeouts
a year or something like that, so insane, I know.
But DiMaggio had a year I think when he had
his fifty six game hitting streak. I think he struck
out fifteen times or less that year. But back then,
you know, it changed. I don't know when it changed,
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but I just remember it wasn't a you didn't have
the walk of shame when you struck out. It was
like like Reggie Jackson. I always felt like he didn't
didn't get ahead. He struck out, but damn did he
look good striking out like that cork screw. And he
was like he was going for a home run every time,
like he was swinging for home runs before it was
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in vogue to swing for home runs. Mickey Mantle struck
out a lot. I think Willie Stargell struck out a lot.
But I just remember, if you struck out a hundred times, man,
we looked at you. It's like, what is wrong with you?
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Yes, time seem like Dave Kingman back in the day
would either hit a home run a strikeout.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
With the Mets, yeah call, yeah, it was home run.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Rob Deer was a home run or strikeout guy. There
been a lot of those guys, but it wasn't this
epidemic or acceptable where it's like, hey, it's all right,
you'll get him next time. Man, you were right on
top of that one. And I remember when one of
the Yankees told me that a Rod he was okay
if he struck out, if he looked good, striking out
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like you don't want to look like man, you're right
on him, right on him. I remember. You know, your
teammates would try to pick up your spirits when you
were up there against some guys, you know, bringing cheese
and you go back and you struck out feeling down. Hey, man,
you're right on him. Okay, you all hey at foul ball?
Who if you straightened that went out, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
There was nothing worse if you got caught striking out
like you struck out looking and somebody say, oh, can
I help you? Ha, No, just looking. I was like, damn,
that's not nice.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I'm sorry, do you need help?
Speaker 13 (31:40):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
No, just looking, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
I'm nerding out on Tony gwinnstats like I like to do.
He hit three seventy at age thirty seven, which is nutty.
He also he had five seasons where he hit over
three point fifty. He had none seasons where he hit
under three hundred.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Andy in Buffalo, Hi, Andy, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 15 (32:00):
Hey?
Speaker 17 (32:01):
Dan?
Speaker 18 (32:01):
First time, long time, five eight one twenty. So I'm
actually calling from LA. I've lived in LA for almost
twenty years now, but I'm from Buffalo. It really irks
me when you guys talk about the best quarterbacks of
all time and you talk about qualifications.
Speaker 11 (32:19):
And this and that, and Dan Marino's name always gets
brought up. But the guy that kept him out of
another Super Bowl and went to four and won four
AFC Championship games in a row and had an offense
named after him is never in the discussion.
Speaker 15 (32:36):
And it drives me nuts.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
So Jim Kelly's who you're talking about.
Speaker 18 (32:41):
Yes, if you're going to talk about Dan Marino, you've
got to talk about Jim Kelly. That's crated at five
wide shotgun.
Speaker 15 (32:47):
Who cares.
Speaker 18 (32:48):
The last time the Dolphins were relevant was when that
guy was chucking the rock, and he was irrelevant for
thirteen years after that Super Bowl, So Jim Kelly's got
to be in the conversation my guys.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
All right, all right, Andy, Yeah, fine with that. All
came in at the same time Jim went to the USFL.
I don't think Marino was irrelevant. If you ask quarterbacks
who had more of an impact. Dan Marino is going
to win that one. Jim kelly great career, unfairly labeled,
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you know, as not winning you know, a Super Bowl.
He went to four four straight, and we do. We
did this to the Minnesota Vikings when they lost Super Bowls,
and it hurt some of those guys getting into the
Hall of Fame. Jim Kelly, Thurman, Thomas, Andre Reed, James Lofton.
They were great teams. Those Buffalo teams were far better
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than the Dolphin teams. I think we can be honest
about that. Dan Marino changed the game. Jim Kelly didn't
change the game. Dan Marino changed the game. Jim Kelly
was a wonderful He's a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Yes, marm and the Bills are complete team and they're
getting their flowers now because they have about six or
seven guys in the Hall of fame, almost like the
seventy Steelers.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, but you know, this is what happens when you
start comparing and because I wax poetic about Dan Marino
and I you know, don't bring up Yeah, I mean,
I bring up John Elway, who's to me, was the
greatest quarterback I saw because that guy could run and throw,
could throw as well as anybody, and didn't have He
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did not have an All Pro skilled position player on
his team during those three Super Bowl runs that they
lost once again, no wide receiver, no tight end, no
running back who was an All Pro. And he went
to three Super Bowls. Now, they did have a really
good defense, but what happened in those games to get
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into the Super Bowl, Elway led them to victory.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, it's crazy too, because the Bills might be looking
at another surefire Hall of Famer who can't win a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Wow, well he can't get there yet, get there yet? Hey,
what happened here?
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Is that just April fools? We're just kidding. Oftentimes I'm very.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Wrong about the stuff I throw out here, just like
I'm pretty sure he hasn't.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
April fools. Yeah, that's who we are. We're the April fools,
last call for phone calls, what we learn, what's in
store tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
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Speaker 2 (35:32):
You know, we started out with Tuesday Todd. That felt
like Friday Fritzie. But I think we calmed down a
little bit, Todd, So thank you. Thank you for playing
nice in the sandbox with everybody else.
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Yeah, I did calm down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yes, you needed to Rocko in Florida. Hey, Roco, what's
on your mind?
Speaker 6 (35:50):
Hey Dan, Dann's and I was calling in. You were
talking about the stats and how baseball is definitely generated
off stats and not champ chips as much. But before
like the grom and stuff, one to fight young on
the losing teams. But back in the day. I mean,
it's funny. People don't realize. Some people don't know. Ryan
never want to fight young with all those accolades and everything.
(36:13):
And then I just want to give the ace nickname, uh,
the little Orphan Athletics. So other than you guys have
a good death.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Thank you, Rocco. Yeah, Uh, Jeff and Clearwater. Hi, Jeff,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (36:29):
What's up?
Speaker 17 (36:30):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (36:31):
Five?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Stat of the day.
Speaker 13 (36:35):
Jim Harball has more rushing yards than Bo Jackson.
Speaker 16 (36:45):
Stand a day, stand to day, stand outa day, stand
out to day. This is the stand of the day.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I think we should check that that Jim Harbaugh has
more rushing yards than Bo Jackson. Bo didn't play that
long in the NFL and Jim Harbaugh played a long time.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
Yes, Paul, I have Jim Harbaugh with two and eighty
seven rushing.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yards in fourteen years. He might have got Bro Jackson hopefully. Wow,
it's pretty good. That is good. That is good. I
like that. Robin Orlando, Hey, Rob, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 17 (37:29):
And I hate the end of the day on a
negative man. But a little suck at the Marvin there,
because comparing the Bills to the seventies Steelers is like
comparing the Vikes, like comparing the Vikings of the seventies
to the forty nine ers of the eighties.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I'm out, thank you, Rob Well. Suck at Marvin, yes, Mark,
but I.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
Was talking about the number of Hall of famers. Bet
are it that won the nineties bills?
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Like?
Speaker 11 (37:53):
Not?
Speaker 2 (37:53):
The bottom line winning champions.
Speaker 8 (37:54):
Yeah, so Rob relaxed.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, that's Steeler dynasty though. That's that's the best dynasty
I've ever seen because that defense. I mean, they had
guys who didn't even start who went into.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
The Hall of Fame. The rotation guys got it. Ye, yes, yes,
it appears Bo Jackson had twenty seven eighty two to
Jim Harblar's twenty seven eighty seven, five yards less than
Jim harble.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Let's compare the highlights of those two with their NFL
rushing careers. That's pretty good stat that's pretty good. That's
a great stack. Yeah, well done. Stat of the Day
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the all around support for this program. How about this
day in sports history, Paul got a couple.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
Nineteen nineteen, The final game of the nineteen nineteen Stanley
Cup was canceled due to an influenza break worldwide. No
winner is declared in the series between the Canadians and
the Montreal of the Seattle Metropolitans. Nineteen thirty, Leo Hartnett
of the Cubs caught a baseball that dropped from the
Goodyear Blimpet eight hundred feet in Los Angeles and first
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ever strike nineteen ninety two in the NHL nineteen ninety
two seventy five year history the NHL first.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Strike, the nineteen thirty moment with Gabby Hartnett. He was
trying to break the world record, but they weren't sure
if the blimp was up. It was between five hundred
and fifty and eight hundred feet, they don't, you know,
so they couldn't calculate it to see if it was
going to be a world record, so it could not
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be verified. Did you see the blimp that's got Charles
Barkley on it? The Capitol one blimp that's flying over
San Antonio now? And Barkley has a history of saying
mean things about San Antonio women, and they have a
blimp of Charles, the Capitol one blimp, I believe, flying
over San Antonio as we speak.
Speaker 7 (39:51):
Yes, Paul, Yeah, it's Charles head on front and him
like diving forward like a big blimp.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Shot. Hey, you big blimp. Can't say that about him anymore? Uh, Indianapolis,
Let me see anything else here. Duke's first NCAA Championship
on this date nineteen ninety one when they beat Kansas
seventy two to sixty five. That was the Grant Hill dunk, right.
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I just watched the Laytner documentary again. It is amazing now.
Jalen Rose makes everything about the world was against the
Fab Five, but they have him on when they're talking
about Laytner stomping on Timberlake's chefs in the Kentucky A
gain and he's like, hey, if one of the Fab
five had done that, you know, they basically put us
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in jail. But Laightner got away with the technical. It's
still one of those amazing moments because he played the
perfect game and he could have been thrown out of
the game and probably should have been thrown out of
the game because it was right there in front of
the official stomping on him, no question, and that's when
coach Kate goes. He yells at him, He's like, what
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are you doing? And I don't think Latner knew what
he was doing in the moment. Todd, would you learn today.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
Coastal Carolina giving up free concessions offensered buy a ticket
to a game, but no Chanter beers.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
However, right could have gotten out without that time.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
You didn't like that last seat.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
According to some on Twitter, I learned you're trying to
be seen from space today.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I got slimed. Marvin Mike in New Jersey is active tops?
What about you, Todd?
Speaker 8 (41:31):
What's called the NFL owners meeting for some reason?
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