May 5, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan and the Danettes talk about the evolution of concert stage production and who does it best. And former college and NBA great, Jim Jackson stops by to talk about James Harden’s failure and Gregg Popovich’s legacy.
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We stumbled upon light shows at concerts, and I'll go
back to the seventies. I didn't see any concerts in
the sixties, but saw shows in the seventies. But I
(01:30):
was looking at some videos yesterday of led Zeppelin and
there's nothing going on. It's just you know, some of
the great individuals, you know, front man, guitar player and
drummer and rock and roll history, but there's no stage presence.
I think they tried to do a light show, but
I think it was a guy with a handheld light
show going on kiss That was a big stage production, though.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Who.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I saw the Rolling Stones and I don't know what year,
it was maybe mid seventies, and that's when Jagger was
wearing the football uniform and they had a phallic symbol
that came out of the stage and you know, obviously
a big stage performance there the who they felt. I'm
(02:21):
trying to remember though, because you didn't go to a
show and go boy, did they put on an incredible
light show. It was just how was the music? And
you know Zeppelin, as great as they were there, there
wasn't ay. I think when they did that documentary that
of video for a song remains the same. Then it
(02:41):
felt like there was a little more stage presence there.
But people have come up with different thoughts there on
who else was at a big stage like where it's like, oh,
there's a lot thing. Pink Floyd definitely, uh. And I
don't know if anybody ever saw the wall when they
build the wall during the concert, but I saw them
(03:05):
when they put out an album called Animals, and I
just remember it. They had floating balloons that were shaped
like animals and I thought, wow, it's pretty cool. You
know fish concerts, they have a lot going on there
as well. Yeah, did you mention Alice Cooper. Yes, he's
in there somewhere. Yes, I saw him. He had a
guillotine on stage and that was I think he had
(03:28):
a snake and so that might and he had makeup on.
I didn't see David Bowie as Ziggy startist. I saw
him when he was the Thin Duke where came out
dressed in all white and Alice Cooper. That's got to be,
you know, early seventies. I think it was seventy two,
maybe in Cincinnati. But Welcome to My Nightmare that was
(03:52):
a little bit later on.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yes, time, isn't that high in the list when you're like, hey,
drum set, speakers, guitar, guillotine, make sure you have at
least the top five.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It was. It was a show that you were going to.
But you know, you didn't grow up thinking that you
were just like you went and saw somebody perform, Like
the Beatles didn't have anything. They just had the Beatles.
They didn't need well, they weren't really a big touring band,
but Aerosmith I remember seeing them, but I don't remember
(04:21):
how big the performance was.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah, Paul, I'm reading some stuff about led Zeppelin, and
you're right. In the mid seventies they tried to use
lasers and they had guys. But in the early seventies
led Zeppelin was playing some very big venues and they're
having security issues, so the venues made them play with
the house lights up. I've got a handful of pictures
and it's like it's like way too lit, like the
vault of stage and the crowd is all lit up.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Oh we were lit all right? We were any other
any other bands that come up if you google.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
A lot of David Bowie costume changes and things like that,
more so than lights, but costume on the stage.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
My brother was a member of the Kiss Army. I
remember that was a big deal and he didn't get
drafted into the Kiss Army, but he would have served
if drafted. He wouldn't have been a draft dodger for Kiss.
I just remember dismissing Kiss because I said, you know,
it was like nobody was led Zeppelin, so therefore everybody
else sucked. And I remember he was like, you got
(05:18):
to listen to Kiss. I go, No, nobody listens to
Kiss for their music. They go to see Kiss and
they had an incredible stage show. Yes, I would love
to know the meeting that Kiss had.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
I'm sure they played with just normally for a few years,
said we're not catching on, and what was the meeting
they had said we're going to come up with these
characters because again, like you said, the music is not
considered high end, but they had a run of popularity
for five six years.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
That was nuts. Yeah, it was about you know, seeing
them not hearing them because I mean they had a
couple of hits, but you know, you weren't getting a
Kiss album and playing it over and over and over.
It was like you wanted to go see them.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
I think Pink Floyd has a thing out right now,
like an IMAX thing. It's Pink Floyd at Pompeii. But
you can go see it on gigantic screens. That'd probably
be pretty cool. I would go check that out.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, even the sphere. If you get an opportunity to
see a show in the sphere in Vegas, do it
like it's Trippy, The Grateful Dead, U two, the Eagles,
they do it really. It's a immersive type of show,
(06:34):
but be careful and you're walking down the steps, but man,
it's a long way down when you go into the sphere.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Yes, Paul, I wonder what concert experiences had the least
going on over history, Like back in the day in
the seventies, James Taylor was a huge star.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But my guess is his.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Concerts were him standing there motionless, playing an acoustic and singing.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Just like Ed Sheeran does now. There's no dancing, there's
no backup there. Amazing though Ed shearan gets out there
with a guitar and sits down and play and play songs.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Oh, he gets up there, he's just got it's him,
that tiny guitar that he plays and like eighty thousand
people and the dude crushes.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
That's not easy to do, yes, Ton.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Can't imagine Carol King had a lot of pyrotechnics behind
her or Linda Ronstadt.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, probably not. Yeah, I didn't need it. Uh. Yeah,
that's when you were a singer's songwriter because the music
was good enough. Ye take that. That's right. Matt in Charlotte.
Good morning, Matt. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Hey, but so I.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
Got lost watching some videos to led Zeppelin videos this weekend.
You got to check out one. It's from twenty twelve.
So the video is a little grainy, but it is
the Kennedy Center Honors tribute to led Zeppelin. A couple
of people do a lot of people do some performances.
But the on that is Breath Taking his Heart does
a rendition of Stay to Heaven with Jason Bonham. Found
(08:05):
those son on drums and it's just fantastic.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (08:10):
I saw that.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I and you got you know, Zeppelins up there obviously
John Bonham no longer with us, but his son is
playing drums. And Ann Wilson crushes like as Robert Plant.
Her voice great. And then you got her sister playing guitar,
and yeah, that's pretty Nancy Ann and Nancy Wilson. I
(08:31):
had a big crush on Nancy.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
It was like, and she can play guitar. It's like
I was Wayne's world. I think I was Wayne, you know,
have a crush on her. Glenn and Dayton, Hi, Glenn,
went's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (08:49):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Dan?
Speaker 9 (08:49):
Appreciate you guys. I listen to you every day and
I was listening to your story about the bands. And
I grew up watching Earth Wind and Fire. They had
some fantastic shows. They did levitation, costs, dooms lights, all
kinds of stuff real early in the in the early
in the sixties and the seventies.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, I saw them. In the mid seventies. I saw
the Commodore's an earth Wind and Fire, and I did
not get to see Who's My guy that I I
didn't see Parliament uh slying the family Stone did not
get to see them either, But I would love to
have seen both of those. I had an opportunity to
(09:28):
see George Clinton. Oh Tom, he don't chase the count
like your version of me. Thank you? Yeah yeah, a little
more suburban thank you? Yes, uh yeah. But I don't
I once again, I don't think I didn't remember seeing
a stage performance.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Yeah, Paul, I think concert regret is a real thing
if you don't see an artist when you're young and
you miss it, or you develop into an artist later
and you didn't see him like you could. I could
tell it bothers you and like I never saw Tom
Petty and concert, I'm like, you gotta be kidne me.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I saw him a couple months before he died. Yeah,
I didn't see Bob Seger, and I've had so many
opportunities see Bob Seger and Silver Bullet. Ben never saw them,
and I think he stopped touring. I saw Neil Young.
I didn't see Crosby Stills, Nahing Young. I saw Crosbie
Stills in Nash saw Yes Zeppelin, Stones, Who, Bowie, Aerosmith, Prince,
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pretty much all of the bands I think from my generation.
But I had friends who had cars who were always
willing to drive to these shows because I didn't have
a car, so be like Hey, you want to go
to Lexington, We're going to go see the Who. You
want to go to Louisville, We're going to go see
the Stones. I'm like, sure, I'll give you a gas money.
(10:52):
That always helped. Let me see Barry and Santa fe
Hi Berry, Welcome.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Back shows, Good Morning chat Row in the eighties, Queen
put on in an elaborate show. However, they were at
their best and most powerful in the mid late seventies
when all they had were a bank of lights. The
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four of them at their most powerful, best live band ever.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
All Right, thank you, Barry. That's saying a lot. Well,
you just look at Freddy and Queen at Wembley. I mean,
what a mad He could be the greatest frontman of
a rock and roll band ever. Freddie Mercury performance voice everything,
I mean, throwing the whole package there.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Yeah, Pully, I have a Bob Seger update for you, Dan.
Bob Seeker is playing his final tour as we speak. Oh,
he will be in our state in three weeks, less than.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
An hour from here.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Okay, we'll discuss more later, but he is currently on
his tour and it says final tour.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Oh, well, there's never a final tour. But okay, yeah,
but this one's really fun? Is that we mean at
this time tour?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And you know, bands touring are kind of like boxers.
They don't want to retire that just nobody calls and
you know, hey, I'll still fight. Yeah, like George Foreman
would have fought till he died. Evander Holyfield, he might
want to fight somebody right now, sugar Ing Leonard, Do
(12:34):
you realize I went to his first retirement. He had
six retirements. I think I think he had to detached
Retina and I went to Baltimore and it was like, man,
the Olympic champ, and he's going to retire and be
another retirement. I'm going I'm not going to this one.
It won't be his last. Let's see John in California. Hi, John,
(12:58):
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
How you doing?
Speaker 10 (13:01):
Guys?
Speaker 8 (13:01):
Great?
Speaker 10 (13:04):
So you were talking about led Zeppelin and bands that
have covered it in the Heart at the Kennedy Center Honors.
Look up Best Heart. She put out an album two
years ago, and she's the only artist that led Zeppelin
gave permission to put out a complete album. It is
(13:26):
absolutely worse listening to over and over. She is incredible.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
All right, thank you John for that suggestion. I still
haven't seen the Zeppelin documentary that's been out for a while,
and I don't know. I've gotten to that point where,
all right, it'll eventually get to Netflix or some streaming service,
but it might take me a little while. But that
is a show that you need to see in an
imax or something like that. Even when I saw the
(13:57):
Dylan movie, I'm glad I saw in the theater because
then you feel like you're actually at a concert when
you're listening to Tom of the Shallow may.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
See.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
What's the pole question.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
For the final hour of the program, I'm so glad
that you asked, Dan. I've got multiple up there right now.
All right, we've been on quite a ride. Actually, poll
questions today, who's had a better run? Greg Popovich or
Warren Buffett? Right now, seventy nine percent of the audience
have Warren Buffett.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Now, off of that pole question, the correct spelling is
Greg g R e g or g r e ggh
two gs or three g's, which is the correct spelling
of the name Greg.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Okay, g r e g or g r e gg.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
I'm happy to report that eighty five percent of the
audience are going with two g's and stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Well, okay, happy to upset? Yeah, that was an upset. Okay.
We also have sunglasses inside yay or nay? What's this
make off?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
I see a lot of video and pictures of people
walking around with sunglasses on inside these days, especially like
playoff wise people are doing their walk in still have
the sunglasses on inside. What are our thoughts on sunglasses
on inside?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I'm not big on it. And if you don't want
to be noticed, then don't wear sunglasses inside because you
will be noticed. But I don't know if it's like
Michael Irvin would wear sunglasses and I'd be like, all right,
that's Michael Irvin, Like I'm all right with that. But
you know, maybe you don't want the bright lights on you.
(15:38):
Maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Right now, eighty six percent of the audience say nay
as opposed to yay.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
And then we also have up there have you ever
had a pet? Yes or no? Right now, one of
the audience say yes, So Todd is the only person
who's never had a pet thus far. Correct never had
a pet.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
If my mom would have allowed a pet, I guess
the goldfish would have been okay.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
She was very it was.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
It was a big deal. If a kid came over
for lunch or as a playdate, you didn't gonna get
lint on the carpet. And she was very crazy like that.
But I never even actually asked for a pet either.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That well, the problem was you asked for a penthouse pet,
and that was My dad.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Was all aboard with that. The mom, that was a
tough one.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
All right, Jim Jackson will join us. Coming up, We'll
take a break. More phone calls as well. Back after this.
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Speaker 2 (17:37):
NBA college basketball analyst played fourteen seasons in the NBA.
He was there for the call the Clippers and the
Nuggets and Jim Joins is so on the program. First
big concert you ever went to.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
Oh Man back in the day.
Speaker 12 (17:52):
I think it was from Toledo, So I think it
was a place we used to go to called the
Sports Arena and it.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Was Coja run DMC. Okay, yeah, yeah, that was it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Did you ever meet those guys once you became famous.
Speaker 12 (18:09):
Yes, okay, L L run dmc jed message. When I
was older.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
Yeah, when I got to the league, I got a
chance to run across his back. You know.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
The funny part is then back in the nineties. Now,
I came in the league in ninety two. That's when
hip hop was just turning the corner from the late
eighties to nineties. So and I used to be in
New York and LA a lot, so we would run
into we would all be kind of at the same
kind of places, whether that's restaurants or nightclubs or event
or whatever. So it was it was funny because back
(18:42):
then it was just they were big. They were big,
don't get me wrong, but you know, you didn't have
the social media and everything like that, and hip hop
was just starting to take off. So I got a
chance to meet a lot of the early hip hop artists, actresses, actors,
things like that back in the day that we see
now that are older, of course, but during that time
(19:04):
and it was it was a different time period.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Did you ever flirt during a game? Of course, to who.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
I'm not telling you that, why not?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Because some limitations is all I'm old I forgot like
Callie Barry, did you I've never.
Speaker 12 (19:24):
Seen Hollie at a game. I went to a Janet Jackson.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Did you flirt with Janet Jackson?
Speaker 12 (19:30):
She never was at well, no, she was at a game. Hey, Actually,
I tell you the truth. One year her concerts concert tour,
Uh it was? Was it velvet rope figure?
Speaker 8 (19:43):
It was?
Speaker 12 (19:44):
I saw it three times that Dallas, Detroit and I
was at the close out show in New York.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
If Janet Jackson said, would you get fifty for me? Jimmy,
what point? What?
Speaker 8 (19:59):
I would? But I wouldn't try to get no.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Wait for Janet Jackson, you wouldn't no, no, no, no.
Speaker 12 (20:05):
I would have tried to get fifty for myself. Oh
and then she could witness it. But no, not for her.
That three That all three your game? Like Dan, you're
trying too hard. I try to get your teammates looking
at you like you're crazy.
Speaker 13 (20:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
All right, you saw up close and personal Clippers vow
ounce and the James Harden question. What happens to him
in these big games?
Speaker 8 (20:33):
Man?
Speaker 12 (20:33):
It's it's a tough one because I'm really close to
the situation, because I covered the Clippers all year and
this this year, Jane. I just thought this was with
everything coming together, Kawhi coming back, James basically manning the
ship the entire year until I mean, you know to
the games where Kawhi came back along with you beature
(20:55):
Zoba to improve.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
He mentally was up for.
Speaker 12 (20:58):
You know, uh, most improved year than Norman Pole, who
was up for six Men of the Year. And going
into this series, I knew Denver was gonna be tough
just because and despite firing Michael Malone, they were.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
Just connected a little bit different.
Speaker 12 (21:14):
They've been playing not as well go down the stretch
of the season, but they just it was just something
about him. And James was up and down in this series.
When he was good, he was good. When he wasn't.
He wasn't when he was engaged early, like in Game
six he was a difference maker. In Game seven, that
same engagement just wasn't there. And a lot of what
(21:38):
happens with the Clippers is based around the temperament of
James and when I mean his body language, when he's
really aggressive offensively, the team tends to follow that. I
thought the first quarter was great. I thought okay, I said, okay,
we got something here Game seven in Denver, but too
many mental errors and mistakes limit to that, and James
(21:59):
never found his rhythm. And I thought this year, Dan
if any, this is when he could have quieted a
lot of that noise about lack of playoff success, especially
in game seven, because with Dan, James didn't have to
go score twenty five to thirty points. But if he
(22:19):
gives you eighteen with tennis sists, twelve assistant he's controlling
tempo and he's getting guys the ball, and he's actively
being defensive minded, then a lot of that narrative and
out of that noise, a lot of that chirping. A
lot of people now say, well, James has done a
great job leading the Clippers, but that didn't happen, and
(22:42):
as a result, a team that I thought could get
to the Western Conference finals, you know, lost to a
great team with the Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Would you rather have James Harden's career Russell Westbrooks ooh oh?
Speaker 8 (23:05):
I think both are there.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
It be Hall of Famers first ballance.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Both are gonna have asterisk by it.
Speaker 12 (23:15):
Russ still has a chance right now because whatever Denver does,
it's going to be on his record. You know, so
if they do something special, I say, that's a great question, Dan,
because both have accomplished so much. Where there's MVPs, where
there's scoring titles with James, you know, triple double crowns
(23:36):
for Russell.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Man.
Speaker 12 (23:38):
I don't know that's it. That's a good one right there, Dan,
I don't know. I would really have to dig into it.
But of off hand, I would say I would say.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
James.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Watching the Nuggets and I was curious how they respond,
you know, firing Michael Malone. Yeah, but you're saying you
see a different team now then maybe we saw at
the end of the year or you know when he
got fired. What kind of chance do you give them
against OKAC.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
So I'll give me a great chance now. But here's
the difference.
Speaker 12 (24:14):
It's okay, See, I mean they're coming off a tough turnaround.
You just played Saturday and now you gotta go to
an Okay, see who's been sitting for It's not it
feels like two weeks now like they's been sitting out.
But that's a tough turnaround, Okay. The thing about it
is leadership a voice when things go left.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
Yo.
Speaker 12 (24:38):
Kids just stepped up in that manner, and I saw
a lot of that in our series. Despite Adamman not
having the experience on the bench, you got it on
the court where Aaron Gordon, Christian Brown has been there,
Jamal Murray and Yo kids. Of course they've been there.
They've been in those dog flights, So you lean into
that a little bit more. They're gonna have to into
(25:01):
that and the tough Okac team defensively, who are going
to take a lot away because the thing about beating
Denver is this Jokis beat you and he gets forty points. Okay,
but he beats you when he's spraying the ball around
and you're helping, and Christom Brown is going back door
and he's throwing the lot to Aaron Gordon. I think, okay,
see is disciplined enough that they can play one on
(25:23):
one with Jokic, stay at home with the other players
and just force Jokis to have to beat them one
on one. And I think that's the key advantage that
Denver has. I mean that the Nuggets have because they
get throw so many bodies at those other guys.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Talking to Jim Jackson Fox Turner, NBA college basketball analyst,
he was on the call for the Clippers and the Nuggets.
If you look at top five players in the NBA
right now, who would you say they are? Now, I'm
just going to ask you. I'm the host.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Uh, I'll try to put it back on you did
I wanted to see it. What's you gonna say?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I'm the captain now?
Speaker 8 (26:03):
Okay? All right, all right?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
So who's your top five?
Speaker 8 (26:07):
Top five?
Speaker 12 (26:10):
Steph Jokic, Steph jokicch Giannis, s g A, s g
A because those sort of m v P and I
think SGA ends up winning it this year.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So you think Steph's a top five player?
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Yeah, I still think he is.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You would take him over Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Now put Anthony Edwards right, I mean right now?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
If I'm picking my five, I'm picking those five right there?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Okay, So Joker, s g A, Steph Jannis.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
And Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Jason Tatum doesn't make it in Huh.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
He's right, he's right there. I mean, and again it's
not a fight on anybody, but why you.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
See right there? But he's like he's accomplished.
Speaker 8 (26:58):
Jason. I think Jason is.
Speaker 12 (27:03):
Like Seth, like all of those guys I think have
something that they do great Jason doesn't have anything he
does great, but he's a great player. He does so
many things well. He can shoot it, he can post up,
he can defend, he can rebound. Steph has something, you
know what I mean, that's different. Jokis has something that's different.
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Sga has something that's different, and so does Anthony Edwards.
But you look at Jason the totality in which he plays.
Speaker 8 (27:32):
I love to have him on my team.
Speaker 12 (27:33):
That would be because he can do a little bit
of everything. It's not that he has one quality that
stands out amongst above everything else, but he's so good
at what he does.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
I think a lot of people take it for granted.
Speaker 12 (27:47):
I really do, because you look at face of the
league and things of that nature, Jason Tatum's name never
comes up. But if you're talking about actually winning and
playing the game, he does it as well as anybody.
So that's not a slight to me on Jason Tatum
of not being in the top five.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
But Luca's not in your top five, no, what happened?
Speaker 8 (28:08):
He never was.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Luca was never a top final players fan.
Speaker 12 (28:12):
No, No, I think Luca and I give Steph this
and that. Teeter with that fifth one because you got Steph,
you got Luca, you got Jason Tatum.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
You can flip fop those three all day long and
I wouldn't be mad.
Speaker 12 (28:24):
And I love Luca, but I went back and looked
at some film and Luca when he first got in
the league, and how slim Luca was, and how quick
his first step was, how dedicated he was to getting Well,
he's a dedicated player, but his defensive level has dropped off,
and that hurts because he compromises. And I'm not saying nothing.
(28:44):
Steve Nash wasn't a great defensive player. Steph is not
a great defensive player. But they did give the effort.
They did give the effort. Now you can have you
can go through examples of every player and pull out
film of them getting beat defensively. Okay, especially when you're
Steph or Luca, Steve Nash, guys like that. You can
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always do that. But the latter two gave the effort
a lot more and a lot of times. That's the
deterrent with Luca is that if you saw that series
in Minnesota, they went after they made sure they put
him in actions. They did that with Steph, they did
it with Steve, but at least they gave that consistent
effort to try to play, to try to get over
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a pick and roll, to try to get back in
front of their guy a lot of times. Luca, I
don't know. Maybe he's preserving a lot of that energy
for the offensive end and not being in tip top shape,
because if he does that, Dan, it's it's unbelievable. If
he gets back to if he drops ten to fifteen
pounds and gets back to that and dedicates himself with
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a little bit more, add a little bit more on
the defensive end, I mean, it's unbelievable what he can
do in the court.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
How long before we have a guy making one hundred
million in a season?
Speaker 12 (30:02):
Well, part of that, I mean, part of the decision
with I think the Mavericks dead was that three hundred
and fifty million by five years they weren't willing to pay,
you know, to Luca, we're getting close. Wimby may be
that guy, because Winby goes through his rookie deal, signs
(30:23):
a extension and then plays a couple of years of
that and then boom. If he's Wmby, like we think,
I think he'll be that guy that gets a hundred
million because where he's tracking right now, If it gets
to that point.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
How do you think crowds are going to react when
somebody's making one hundred million and they're in street clothes?
Speaker 12 (30:50):
It will be flat out anarchy. I mean, now, how
how is he in street closed? Is he always in
street closed?
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Load management? Let's just say it's loading, you know, because
used to be you guys took great pride in trying
to play it.
Speaker 12 (31:05):
Every game we did, you did and guys wanted to play.
And I'm not saying guys, listen, I'll tell you what
we was talking about. James Harden, right, this dude want
to who No matter what you want to say about
James Harden, he wants to play a lot of guys
in the league want to put it now you again,
you're talking about the top one percent of the league
that we're talking about here that are in street clothes
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that people are going to be upset about. They're not
going to be upset if Rudy Gobert is in the
street clothes or you know, if it's Kristin Brown. I mean, seriously,
but we're talking about the lead of the league.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
Now.
Speaker 12 (31:37):
The NBA just signed this big TV deal you got
now Amazon coming on board, you got NBC, maybe Netflix,
you got still the ESPNS. So the product is dependent
upon the superstars playing. But how do you enforce that
because to the detriment of the league in some aspects,
with the analytics and the teams, they dictate more than
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any who plays, how and when and how many games
and minutes and sits out. So a coach a lot
of times and or a player doesn't have full control
of that situation. And that's the troubling part of it
because the product is dependent upon the superstars playing. At
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the end of the day, as you know, I don't
care what sport it is. And the beauty about football
is you got sixteen eighteen games. Each one matters, right,
those superstars are out there playing, so you got a
finite time period to watch them play, and they got
to play in order to get to a super Bowl.
They got to be out there. And if they're injured,
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they can play. If they're hurt, they're not. That's the difference,
and it's hurt the product, I think in a lot
of aspects. So I know where you're going with that question,
and it would be somebody out there now A got
like Wenby. I think like Gianni's who loves to play,
I don't think fits in that category because they just
want to get out there and play.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I can't imagine pat Riley saying the Magic I'm gonna
have you sit, or Phil Jackson saying to Michael, Hey,
I'm gonna have you sit, or you know, Tommy Heinzen
telling Larry murd You're gonna have to sit. I just
I can't envision.
Speaker 12 (33:21):
Phil Jackson telling that to Kobe Yeah, are you kidding me?
But just what I try to understand.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
But it's part of Pop's legacy that Popovich had no
problem telling his stars I'm gonna rest you.
Speaker 12 (33:34):
But it wasn't but it was see at the time,
it felt bad because it was new, but it wasn't
as much as it was strategical when he did it,
especially when it got later in the year getting ready
for the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
He knew his position.
Speaker 12 (33:50):
He knew that, okay, maybe we were not the number
one seed, but we're good enough that in that first
round series, we get the game on the road, we
got home court advantage. That's what he used it for
in my viewpoint, my opinion, But at the time that
he did it. It was so new and he was
so honest, but why he was doing it just shocked everybody.
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But you think about this, Dan, it's and and my
son is thirty two and I grew up you know,
aau side and social media with him. You got to
meet these young men and women where they're at. What
they know is what they know that's in front of them.
How I played eighty two games in the nineties and
rough physic They understand it, they saw it, but they
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don't have a reality of it because their reality is
what they see now. So I got to meet them
where they're at and talk to them in that BASI
and my expectations are not limited, but I can't expect
them what they're seeing when see. The problem is it's
okay for a lot of guys that when they say
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you don't have to play, they're fine with it with it,
and that is a problem. And how do you change
that with a generation that has grown up seeing that
and knowing that it's okay to miss games. When I
was coming in, it wasn't okay one because you're worried
(35:18):
about one losing that position in that spot, you know,
and the perception wise that you I think we took
at that time it was a pride thing to see
how many, how close you could get.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
To play an eighty two games. That was a badge
of honor.
Speaker 12 (35:34):
But a lot of the participants today don't look at
it like that. It's how good I can be in
what number of games? And that's it now and that
but that's not all Anthony Edwards wants to play. I
mean you can't. You got to rip him off the court.
So you know, it goes both ways. And it'll be
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interesting to see with this new crop of young players
that are going to lead the league. She Alexander he
loves to play, okay, that they want to be out
there on the court, and if it ad just a
little bit more. And I hate the conversation too about
why should we have to peel back and shorten the season.
I mean, you can't do it anyway because the TV
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is too much money. Those eighty two games matter. You
take off ten, that's that's money lost. Millions and millions
of dollars lost. That's not gonna happen. Well, you don't
think they get rid of All Star Game and all
of that is money, it's tied into your TV.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
Contract.
Speaker 12 (36:33):
Well, you think they're adding into you know, the play
ad and you know the postseason because it's part of TV,
so you can't.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
You're not going shorten the season.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Always great to connect with, you have fun in the offseason.
Thanks for joining us. You got a captain that is
Jim Jackson, former NBA player, fourteen years in the league
and works for Fox and Turner covers the Clippers as well.
Take a break, Last call for phone calls? What we learn?
Wants in store tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
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Speaker 2 (37:12):
Last call for phone calls, What we learned, What's in
store tomorrow? All of that going on. Let me see, oh,
this day in sports history as well. Jim Jackson's really good.
It is really thoughtful, played in the league fourteen years,
a lot of fun to talk to. How about this
day in sports history, Paul, what do you have for me?
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Nineteen oh four, the third perfect game in Major League
history is thrown by Cy Young of the Boston Red
Sox against the Philadelphia Athletics. And what's the stat on
sy Young. He never won a cy Young.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Very weird.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Pete Rose of the Reds got hit number three thousand
in nineteen seventy eight. Nineteen ninety five, the last game
was played at Boston Gardens or Atlanta Magic beat the Celtics.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Pete Rose had his three thousand hit off Steve Rodgers
of the Expos On this day in nineteen seventy three,
Secretariat wins the Kentucky Derby. All horses are measured like
that's that's the Jordan right Secretariat. And I don't know
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if his times had has anybody bettered Secretariat's time? It
was just under two minutes. It was one fifty nine
to four at the Kentucky Derby. Now I don't know
what it was at the Belmont because that's when he
blew away the field. Yes, Martin.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
My favorite thing about Secretariat he was in Sports Century
fifty Grace Athletes of All Time.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
And I was hosting Sports Century. The number the feedback
we got you put a horse in there, and I
was the face of Sports Century, so I'm going, yeah, yeah,
we did. I think there are a couple of horses
that were like war admiral or Man of War or
something in there. Yeah, Paul, and his interview was terrible.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
There was cockey talk and smack about other horses seventy three,
Secretariat two thousand and one, marn Arcos seven.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Every other one has been two minutes or more. What
about Belmont because bellmarking, I think I think Shed finished
in second in the Belmont, like twenty six links behind Secretariat,
something crazy like that. I could be making this up.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Rich in Wisconsin, Hi, rich thanks for holding best and
worst of the weekend.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Hey Dan, thanks to.
Speaker 13 (39:29):
State my call five eleven A saw two bills. So
I just want to throw a shout out. Let me
see how's it go. I'm trying to get a lot
in here. Seton MVD when I was at the show
in Green Bay, that was pretty awesome. And the fact
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that Seton works the crowd as much as he does,
and the fact that it just happened with your interview
with Jim Jackson, you are probably be one of the
best out there that every interview at too like the interview,
He says, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Well, thank you, thank you, Richard. Take great pride in
the questions we asked there. Uh, Doc Emrick is going
to be on the show tomorrow. It's been a while
since we talked to Doc now in retirement, but we thought,
you know, Stanley Cup playoffs, so you don't play by
play around the house. Uh like, don't have time for
other phone calls. Sorry about that, Yes, Pauline.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
The fastest Belmont was seventy three secretary at two minutes
and twenty four seconds.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Who finished second? Was it in that race? Was it shed?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Checking?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I think I think the horse was shed for some reason. Right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
I wonder if Doc when he comes on and you
talk about retirement, he uses a gajillion words for retirement. Oh,
like you know how he never says the same thing
like Jimmy's it over.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Here, shuffles it over there. He's like, well, I withdrawn
from the workforce. Yes, I'm leaving the service and stepping down.
The career culmination is.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Here at the Belmont and seventy three secretariat first twice
a prince my gallant private smiles and sham.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Oh sham, damn that's in damn todd wit did I
learned today?
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Jim Jackson's top five NBA players right now, step Joger,
Greek Freak, SGA and ant Man.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Have a great day, everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
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We stumbled upon light shows at concerts, and I'll go
back to the seventies. I didn't see any concerts in
the sixties, but saw shows in the seventies. But I
(01:30):
was looking at some videos yesterday of led Zeppelin and
there's nothing going on. It's just you know, some of
the great individuals, you know, front man, guitar player and
drummer and rock and roll history, but there's no stage presence.
I think they tried to do a light show, but
I think it was a guy with a handheld light
show going on kiss That was a big stage production, though.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Who.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I saw the Rolling Stones and I don't know what year,
it was maybe mid seventies, and that's when Jagger was
wearing the football uniform and they had a phallic symbol
that came out of the stage and you know, obviously
a big stage performance there the who they felt. I'm
(02:21):
trying to remember though, because you didn't go to a
show and go boy, did they put on an incredible
light show. It was just how was the music? And
you know Zeppelin, as great as they were there, there
wasn't ay. I think when they did that documentary that
of video for a song remains the same. Then it
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felt like there was a little more stage presence there.
But people have come up with different thoughts there on
who else was at a big stage like where it's like, oh,
there's a lot thing. Pink Floyd definitely, uh. And I
don't know if anybody ever saw the wall when they
build the wall during the concert, but I saw them
(03:05):
when they put out an album called Animals, and I
just remember it. They had floating balloons that were shaped
like animals and I thought, wow, it's pretty cool. You
know fish concerts, they have a lot going on there
as well. Yeah, did you mention Alice Cooper. Yes, he's
in there somewhere. Yes, I saw him. He had a
guillotine on stage and that was I think he had
(03:28):
a snake and so that might and he had makeup on.
I didn't see David Bowie as Ziggy startist. I saw
him when he was the Thin Duke where came out
dressed in all white and Alice Cooper. That's got to be,
you know, early seventies. I think it was seventy two,
maybe in Cincinnati. But Welcome to My Nightmare that was
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a little bit later on.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yes, time, isn't that high in the list when you're like, hey,
drum set, speakers, guitar, guillotine, make sure you have at
least the top five.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It was. It was a show that you were going to.
But you know, you didn't grow up thinking that you
were just like you went and saw somebody perform, Like
the Beatles didn't have anything. They just had the Beatles.
They didn't need well, they weren't really a big touring band,
but Aerosmith I remember seeing them, but I don't remember
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how big the performance was.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah, Paul, I'm reading some stuff about led Zeppelin, and
you're right. In the mid seventies they tried to use
lasers and they had guys. But in the early seventies
led Zeppelin was playing some very big venues and they're
having security issues, so the venues made them play with
the house lights up. I've got a handful of pictures
and it's like it's like way too lit, like the
vault of stage and the crowd is all lit up.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Oh we were lit all right? We were any other
any other bands that come up if you google.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
A lot of David Bowie costume changes and things like that,
more so than lights, but costume on the stage.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
My brother was a member of the Kiss Army. I
remember that was a big deal and he didn't get
drafted into the Kiss Army, but he would have served
if drafted. He wouldn't have been a draft dodger for Kiss.
I just remember dismissing Kiss because I said, you know,
it was like nobody was led Zeppelin, so therefore everybody
else sucked. And I remember he was like, you got
(05:18):
to listen to Kiss. I go, No, nobody listens to
Kiss for their music. They go to see Kiss and
they had an incredible stage show. Yes, I would love
to know the meeting that Kiss had.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
I'm sure they played with just normally for a few years,
said we're not catching on, and what was the meeting
they had said we're going to come up with these
characters because again, like you said, the music is not
considered high end, but they had a run of popularity
for five six years.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
That was nuts. Yeah, it was about you know, seeing
them not hearing them because I mean they had a
couple of hits, but you know, you weren't getting a
Kiss album and playing it over and over and over.
It was like you wanted to go see them.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
I think Pink Floyd has a thing out right now,
like an IMAX thing. It's Pink Floyd at Pompeii. But
you can go see it on gigantic screens. That'd probably
be pretty cool. I would go check that out.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, even the sphere. If you get an opportunity to
see a show in the sphere in Vegas, do it
like it's Trippy, The Grateful Dead, U two, the Eagles,
they do it really. It's a immersive type of show,
(06:34):
but be careful and you're walking down the steps, but man,
it's a long way down when you go into the sphere.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Yes, Paul, I wonder what concert experiences had the least
going on over history, Like back in the day in
the seventies, James Taylor was a huge star.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But my guess is his.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Concerts were him standing there motionless, playing an acoustic and singing.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Just like Ed Sheeran does now. There's no dancing, there's
no backup there. Amazing though Ed shearan gets out there
with a guitar and sits down and play and play songs.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Oh, he gets up there, he's just got it's him,
that tiny guitar that he plays and like eighty thousand
people and the dude crushes.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
That's not easy to do, yes, Ton.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Can't imagine Carol King had a lot of pyrotechnics behind
her or Linda Ronstadt.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, probably not. Yeah, I didn't need it. Uh. Yeah,
that's when you were a singer's songwriter because the music
was good enough. Ye take that. That's right. Matt in Charlotte.
Good morning, Matt. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Hey, but so I.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
Got lost watching some videos to led Zeppelin videos this weekend.
You got to check out one. It's from twenty twelve.
So the video is a little grainy, but it is
the Kennedy Center Honors tribute to led Zeppelin. A couple
of people do a lot of people do some performances.
But the on that is Breath Taking his Heart does
a rendition of Stay to Heaven with Jason Bonham. Found
(08:05):
those son on drums and it's just fantastic.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (08:10):
I saw that.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I and you got you know, Zeppelins up there obviously
John Bonham no longer with us, but his son is
playing drums. And Ann Wilson crushes like as Robert Plant.
Her voice great. And then you got her sister playing guitar,
and yeah, that's pretty Nancy Ann and Nancy Wilson. I
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had a big crush on Nancy.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
It was like, and she can play guitar. It's like
I was Wayne's world. I think I was Wayne, you know,
have a crush on her. Glenn and Dayton, Hi, Glenn,
went's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (08:49):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Dan?
Speaker 9 (08:49):
Appreciate you guys. I listen to you every day and
I was listening to your story about the bands. And
I grew up watching Earth Wind and Fire. They had
some fantastic shows. They did levitation, costs, dooms lights, all
kinds of stuff real early in the in the early
in the sixties and the seventies.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, I saw them. In the mid seventies. I saw
the Commodore's an earth Wind and Fire, and I did
not get to see Who's My guy that I I
didn't see Parliament uh slying the family Stone did not
get to see them either, But I would love to
have seen both of those. I had an opportunity to
(09:28):
see George Clinton. Oh Tom, he don't chase the count
like your version of me. Thank you? Yeah yeah, a little
more suburban thank you? Yes, uh yeah. But I don't
I once again, I don't think I didn't remember seeing
a stage performance.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Yeah, Paul, I think concert regret is a real thing
if you don't see an artist when you're young and
you miss it, or you develop into an artist later
and you didn't see him like you could. I could
tell it bothers you and like I never saw Tom
Petty and concert, I'm like, you gotta be kidne me.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I saw him a couple months before he died. Yeah,
I didn't see Bob Seger, and I've had so many
opportunities see Bob Seger and Silver Bullet. Ben never saw them,
and I think he stopped touring. I saw Neil Young.
I didn't see Crosby Stills, Nahing Young. I saw Crosbie
Stills in Nash saw Yes Zeppelin, Stones, Who, Bowie, Aerosmith, Prince,
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pretty much all of the bands I think from my generation.
But I had friends who had cars who were always
willing to drive to these shows because I didn't have
a car, so be like Hey, you want to go
to Lexington, We're going to go see the Who. You
want to go to Louisville, We're going to go see
the Stones. I'm like, sure, I'll give you a gas money.
(10:52):
That always helped. Let me see Barry and Santa fe
Hi Berry, Welcome.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Back shows, Good Morning chat Row in the eighties, Queen
put on in an elaborate show. However, they were at
their best and most powerful in the mid late seventies
when all they had were a bank of lights. The
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four of them at their most powerful, best live band ever.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
All Right, thank you, Barry. That's saying a lot. Well,
you just look at Freddy and Queen at Wembley. I mean,
what a mad He could be the greatest frontman of
a rock and roll band ever. Freddie Mercury performance voice everything,
I mean, throwing the whole package there.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Yeah, Pully, I have a Bob Seger update for you, Dan.
Bob Seeker is playing his final tour as we speak. Oh,
he will be in our state in three weeks, less than.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
An hour from here.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Okay, we'll discuss more later, but he is currently on
his tour and it says final tour.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Oh, well, there's never a final tour. But okay, yeah,
but this one's really fun? Is that we mean at
this time tour?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And you know, bands touring are kind of like boxers.
They don't want to retire that just nobody calls and
you know, hey, I'll still fight. Yeah, like George Foreman
would have fought till he died. Evander Holyfield, he might
want to fight somebody right now, sugar Ing Leonard, Do
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you realize I went to his first retirement. He had
six retirements. I think I think he had to detached
Retina and I went to Baltimore and it was like, man,
the Olympic champ, and he's going to retire and be
another retirement. I'm going I'm not going to this one.
It won't be his last. Let's see John in California. Hi, John,
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what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
How you doing?
Speaker 10 (13:01):
Guys?
Speaker 8 (13:01):
Great?
Speaker 10 (13:04):
So you were talking about led Zeppelin and bands that
have covered it in the Heart at the Kennedy Center Honors.
Look up Best Heart. She put out an album two
years ago, and she's the only artist that led Zeppelin
gave permission to put out a complete album. It is
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absolutely worse listening to over and over. She is incredible.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
All right, thank you John for that suggestion. I still
haven't seen the Zeppelin documentary that's been out for a while,
and I don't know. I've gotten to that point where,
all right, it'll eventually get to Netflix or some streaming service,
but it might take me a little while. But that
is a show that you need to see in an
imax or something like that. Even when I saw the
(13:57):
Dylan movie, I'm glad I saw in the theater because
then you feel like you're actually at a concert when
you're listening to Tom of the Shallow may.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
See.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
What's the pole question.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
For the final hour of the program, I'm so glad
that you asked, Dan. I've got multiple up there right now.
All right, we've been on quite a ride. Actually, poll
questions today, who's had a better run? Greg Popovich or
Warren Buffett? Right now, seventy nine percent of the audience
have Warren Buffett.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Now, off of that pole question, the correct spelling is
Greg g R e g or g r e ggh
two gs or three g's, which is the correct spelling
of the name Greg.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Okay, g r e g or g r e gg.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
I'm happy to report that eighty five percent of the
audience are going with two g's and stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Well, okay, happy to upset? Yeah, that was an upset. Okay.
We also have sunglasses inside yay or nay? What's this
make off?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
I see a lot of video and pictures of people
walking around with sunglasses on inside these days, especially like
playoff wise people are doing their walk in still have
the sunglasses on inside. What are our thoughts on sunglasses
on inside?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I'm not big on it. And if you don't want
to be noticed, then don't wear sunglasses inside because you
will be noticed. But I don't know if it's like
Michael Irvin would wear sunglasses and I'd be like, all right,
that's Michael Irvin, Like I'm all right with that. But
you know, maybe you don't want the bright lights on you.
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Maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Right now, eighty six percent of the audience say nay
as opposed to yay.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
And then we also have up there have you ever
had a pet? Yes or no? Right now, one of
the audience say yes, So Todd is the only person
who's never had a pet thus far. Correct never had
a pet.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
If my mom would have allowed a pet, I guess
the goldfish would have been okay.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
She was very it was.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
It was a big deal. If a kid came over
for lunch or as a playdate, you didn't gonna get
lint on the carpet. And she was very crazy like that.
But I never even actually asked for a pet either.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That well, the problem was you asked for a penthouse pet,
and that was My dad.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Was all aboard with that. The mom, that was a
tough one.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
All right, Jim Jackson will join us. Coming up, We'll
take a break. More phone calls as well. Back after this.
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Speaker 2 (17:37):
NBA college basketball analyst played fourteen seasons in the NBA.
He was there for the call the Clippers and the
Nuggets and Jim Joins is so on the program. First
big concert you ever went to.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
Oh Man back in the day.
Speaker 12 (17:52):
I think it was from Toledo, So I think it
was a place we used to go to called the
Sports Arena and it.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Was Coja run DMC. Okay, yeah, yeah, that was it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Did you ever meet those guys once you became famous.
Speaker 12 (18:09):
Yes, okay, L L run dmc jed message. When I
was older.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
Yeah, when I got to the league, I got a
chance to run across his back. You know.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
The funny part is then back in the nineties. Now,
I came in the league in ninety two. That's when
hip hop was just turning the corner from the late
eighties to nineties. So and I used to be in
New York and LA a lot, so we would run
into we would all be kind of at the same
kind of places, whether that's restaurants or nightclubs or event
or whatever. So it was it was funny because back
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then it was just they were big. They were big,
don't get me wrong, but you know, you didn't have
the social media and everything like that, and hip hop
was just starting to take off. So I got a
chance to meet a lot of the early hip hop artists, actresses, actors,
things like that back in the day that we see
now that are older, of course, but during that time
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and it was it was a different time period.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Did you ever flirt during a game? Of course, to who.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
I'm not telling you that, why not?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Because some limitations is all I'm old I forgot like
Callie Barry, did you I've never.
Speaker 12 (19:24):
Seen Hollie at a game. I went to a Janet Jackson.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Did you flirt with Janet Jackson?
Speaker 12 (19:30):
She never was at well, no, she was at a game. Hey, Actually,
I tell you the truth. One year her concerts concert tour,
Uh it was? Was it velvet rope figure?
Speaker 8 (19:43):
It was?
Speaker 12 (19:44):
I saw it three times that Dallas, Detroit and I
was at the close out show in New York.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
If Janet Jackson said, would you get fifty for me? Jimmy,
what point? What?
Speaker 8 (19:59):
I would? But I wouldn't try to get no.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Wait for Janet Jackson, you wouldn't no, no, no, no.
Speaker 12 (20:05):
I would have tried to get fifty for myself. Oh
and then she could witness it. But no, not for her.
That three That all three your game? Like Dan, you're
trying too hard. I try to get your teammates looking
at you like you're crazy.
Speaker 13 (20:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
All right, you saw up close and personal Clippers vow
ounce and the James Harden question. What happens to him
in these big games?
Speaker 8 (20:33):
Man?
Speaker 12 (20:33):
It's it's a tough one because I'm really close to
the situation, because I covered the Clippers all year and
this this year, Jane. I just thought this was with
everything coming together, Kawhi coming back, James basically manning the
ship the entire year until I mean, you know to
the games where Kawhi came back along with you beature
(20:55):
Zoba to improve.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
He mentally was up for.
Speaker 12 (20:58):
You know, uh, most improved year than Norman Pole, who
was up for six Men of the Year. And going
into this series, I knew Denver was gonna be tough
just because and despite firing Michael Malone, they were.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
Just connected a little bit different.
Speaker 12 (21:14):
They've been playing not as well go down the stretch
of the season, but they just it was just something
about him. And James was up and down in this series.
When he was good, he was good. When he wasn't.
He wasn't when he was engaged early, like in Game
six he was a difference maker. In Game seven, that
same engagement just wasn't there. And a lot of what
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happens with the Clippers is based around the temperament of
James and when I mean his body language, when he's
really aggressive offensively, the team tends to follow that. I
thought the first quarter was great. I thought okay, I said, okay,
we got something here Game seven in Denver, but too
many mental errors and mistakes limit to that, and James
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never found his rhythm. And I thought this year, Dan
if any, this is when he could have quieted a
lot of that noise about lack of playoff success, especially
in game seven, because with Dan, James didn't have to
go score twenty five to thirty points. But if he
(22:19):
gives you eighteen with tennis sists, twelve assistant he's controlling
tempo and he's getting guys the ball, and he's actively
being defensive minded, then a lot of that narrative and
out of that noise, a lot of that chirping. A
lot of people now say, well, James has done a
great job leading the Clippers, but that didn't happen, and
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as a result, a team that I thought could get
to the Western Conference finals, you know, lost to a
great team with the Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Would you rather have James Harden's career Russell Westbrooks ooh oh?
Speaker 8 (23:05):
I think both are there.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
It be Hall of Famers first ballance.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Both are gonna have asterisk by it.
Speaker 12 (23:15):
Russ still has a chance right now because whatever Denver does,
it's going to be on his record. You know, so
if they do something special, I say, that's a great question, Dan,
because both have accomplished so much. Where there's MVPs, where
there's scoring titles with James, you know, triple double crowns
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for Russell.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Man.
Speaker 12 (23:38):
I don't know that's it. That's a good one right there, Dan,
I don't know. I would really have to dig into it.
But of off hand, I would say I would say.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
James.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Watching the Nuggets and I was curious how they respond,
you know, firing Michael Malone. Yeah, but you're saying you
see a different team now then maybe we saw at
the end of the year or you know when he
got fired. What kind of chance do you give them
against OKAC.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
So I'll give me a great chance now. But here's
the difference.
Speaker 12 (24:14):
It's okay, See, I mean they're coming off a tough turnaround.
You just played Saturday and now you gotta go to
an Okay, see who's been sitting for It's not it
feels like two weeks now like they's been sitting out.
But that's a tough turnaround, Okay. The thing about it
is leadership a voice when things go left.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
Yo.
Speaker 12 (24:38):
Kids just stepped up in that manner, and I saw
a lot of that in our series. Despite Adamman not
having the experience on the bench, you got it on
the court where Aaron Gordon, Christian Brown has been there,
Jamal Murray and Yo kids. Of course they've been there.
They've been in those dog flights, So you lean into
that a little bit more. They're gonna have to into
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that and the tough Okac team defensively, who are going
to take a lot away because the thing about beating
Denver is this Jokis beat you and he gets forty points. Okay,
but he beats you when he's spraying the ball around
and you're helping, and Christom Brown is going back door
and he's throwing the lot to Aaron Gordon. I think, okay,
see is disciplined enough that they can play one on
(25:23):
one with Jokic, stay at home with the other players
and just force Jokis to have to beat them one
on one. And I think that's the key advantage that
Denver has. I mean that the Nuggets have because they
get throw so many bodies at those other guys.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Talking to Jim Jackson Fox Turner, NBA college basketball analyst,
he was on the call for the Clippers and the Nuggets.
If you look at top five players in the NBA
right now, who would you say they are? Now, I'm
just going to ask you. I'm the host.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Uh, I'll try to put it back on you did
I wanted to see it. What's you gonna say?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I'm the captain now?
Speaker 8 (26:03):
Okay? All right, all right?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
So who's your top five?
Speaker 8 (26:07):
Top five?
Speaker 12 (26:10):
Steph Jokic, Steph jokicch Giannis, s g A, s g
A because those sort of m v P and I
think SGA ends up winning it this year.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So you think Steph's a top five player?
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Yeah, I still think he is.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You would take him over Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Now put Anthony Edwards right, I mean right now?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
If I'm picking my five, I'm picking those five right there?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Okay, So Joker, s g A, Steph Jannis.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
And Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Jason Tatum doesn't make it in Huh.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
He's right, he's right there. I mean, and again it's
not a fight on anybody, but why you.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
See right there? But he's like he's accomplished.
Speaker 8 (26:58):
Jason. I think Jason is.
Speaker 12 (27:03):
Like Seth, like all of those guys I think have
something that they do great Jason doesn't have anything he
does great, but he's a great player. He does so
many things well. He can shoot it, he can post up,
he can defend, he can rebound. Steph has something, you
know what I mean, that's different. Jokis has something that's different.
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Sga has something that's different, and so does Anthony Edwards.
But you look at Jason the totality in which he plays.
Speaker 8 (27:32):
I love to have him on my team.
Speaker 12 (27:33):
That would be because he can do a little bit
of everything. It's not that he has one quality that
stands out amongst above everything else, but he's so good
at what he does.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
I think a lot of people take it for granted.
Speaker 12 (27:47):
I really do, because you look at face of the
league and things of that nature, Jason Tatum's name never
comes up. But if you're talking about actually winning and
playing the game, he does it as well as anybody.
So that's not a slight to me on Jason Tatum
of not being in the top five.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
But Luca's not in your top five, no, what happened?
Speaker 8 (28:08):
He never was.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Luca was never a top final players fan.
Speaker 12 (28:12):
No, No, I think Luca and I give Steph this
and that. Teeter with that fifth one because you got Steph,
you got Luca, you got Jason Tatum.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
You can flip fop those three all day long and
I wouldn't be mad.
Speaker 12 (28:24):
And I love Luca, but I went back and looked
at some film and Luca when he first got in
the league, and how slim Luca was, and how quick
his first step was, how dedicated he was to getting Well,
he's a dedicated player, but his defensive level has dropped off,
and that hurts because he compromises. And I'm not saying nothing.
(28:44):
Steve Nash wasn't a great defensive player. Steph is not
a great defensive player. But they did give the effort.
They did give the effort. Now you can have you
can go through examples of every player and pull out
film of them getting beat defensively. Okay, especially when you're
Steph or Luca, Steve Nash, guys like that. You can
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always do that. But the latter two gave the effort
a lot more and a lot of times. That's the
deterrent with Luca is that if you saw that series
in Minnesota, they went after they made sure they put
him in actions. They did that with Steph, they did
it with Steve, but at least they gave that consistent
effort to try to play, to try to get over
(29:29):
a pick and roll, to try to get back in
front of their guy a lot of times. Luca, I
don't know. Maybe he's preserving a lot of that energy
for the offensive end and not being in tip top shape,
because if he does that, Dan, it's it's unbelievable. If
he gets back to if he drops ten to fifteen
pounds and gets back to that and dedicates himself with
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a little bit more, add a little bit more on
the defensive end, I mean, it's unbelievable what he can
do in the court.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
How long before we have a guy making one hundred
million in a season?
Speaker 12 (30:02):
Well, part of that, I mean, part of the decision
with I think the Mavericks dead was that three hundred
and fifty million by five years they weren't willing to pay,
you know, to Luca, we're getting close. Wimby may be
that guy, because Winby goes through his rookie deal, signs
(30:23):
a extension and then plays a couple of years of
that and then boom. If he's Wmby, like we think,
I think he'll be that guy that gets a hundred
million because where he's tracking right now, If it gets
to that point.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
How do you think crowds are going to react when
somebody's making one hundred million and they're in street clothes?
Speaker 12 (30:50):
It will be flat out anarchy. I mean, now, how
how is he in street closed? Is he always in
street closed?
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Load management? Let's just say it's loading, you know, because
used to be you guys took great pride in trying
to play it.
Speaker 12 (31:05):
Every game we did, you did and guys wanted to play.
And I'm not saying guys, listen, I'll tell you what
we was talking about. James Harden, right, this dude want
to who No matter what you want to say about
James Harden, he wants to play a lot of guys
in the league want to put it now you again,
you're talking about the top one percent of the league
that we're talking about here that are in street clothes
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that people are going to be upset about. They're not
going to be upset if Rudy Gobert is in the
street clothes or you know, if it's Kristin Brown. I mean, seriously,
but we're talking about the lead of the league.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
Now.
Speaker 12 (31:37):
The NBA just signed this big TV deal you got
now Amazon coming on board, you got NBC, maybe Netflix,
you got still the ESPNS. So the product is dependent
upon the superstars playing. But how do you enforce that
because to the detriment of the league in some aspects,
with the analytics and the teams, they dictate more than
(31:59):
any who plays, how and when and how many games
and minutes and sits out. So a coach a lot
of times and or a player doesn't have full control
of that situation. And that's the troubling part of it
because the product is dependent upon the superstars playing. At
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the end of the day, as you know, I don't
care what sport it is. And the beauty about football
is you got sixteen eighteen games. Each one matters, right,
those superstars are out there playing, so you got a
finite time period to watch them play, and they got
to play in order to get to a super Bowl.
They got to be out there. And if they're injured,
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they can play. If they're hurt, they're not. That's the difference,
and it's hurt the product, I think in a lot
of aspects. So I know where you're going with that question,
and it would be somebody out there now A got
like Wenby. I think like Gianni's who loves to play,
I don't think fits in that category because they just
want to get out there and play.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I can't imagine pat Riley saying the Magic I'm gonna
have you sit, or Phil Jackson saying to Michael, Hey,
I'm gonna have you sit, or you know, Tommy Heinzen
telling Larry murd You're gonna have to sit. I just
I can't envision.
Speaker 12 (33:21):
Phil Jackson telling that to Kobe Yeah, are you kidding me?
But just what I try to understand.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
But it's part of Pop's legacy that Popovich had no
problem telling his stars I'm gonna rest you.
Speaker 12 (33:34):
But it wasn't but it was see at the time,
it felt bad because it was new, but it wasn't
as much as it was strategical when he did it,
especially when it got later in the year getting ready
for the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
He knew his position.
Speaker 12 (33:50):
He knew that, okay, maybe we were not the number
one seed, but we're good enough that in that first
round series, we get the game on the road, we
got home court advantage. That's what he used it for
in my viewpoint, my opinion, But at the time that
he did it. It was so new and he was
so honest, but why he was doing it just shocked everybody.
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But you think about this, Dan, it's and and my
son is thirty two and I grew up you know,
aau side and social media with him. You got to
meet these young men and women where they're at. What
they know is what they know that's in front of them.
How I played eighty two games in the nineties and
rough physic They understand it, they saw it, but they
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don't have a reality of it because their reality is
what they see now. So I got to meet them
where they're at and talk to them in that BASI
and my expectations are not limited, but I can't expect
them what they're seeing when see. The problem is it's
okay for a lot of guys that when they say
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you don't have to play, they're fine with it with it,
and that is a problem. And how do you change
that with a generation that has grown up seeing that
and knowing that it's okay to miss games. When I
was coming in, it wasn't okay one because you're worried
(35:18):
about one losing that position in that spot, you know,
and the perception wise that you I think we took
at that time it was a pride thing to see
how many, how close you could get.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
To play an eighty two games. That was a badge
of honor.
Speaker 12 (35:34):
But a lot of the participants today don't look at
it like that. It's how good I can be in
what number of games? And that's it now and that
but that's not all Anthony Edwards wants to play. I
mean you can't. You got to rip him off the court.
So you know, it goes both ways. And it'll be
(35:56):
interesting to see with this new crop of young players
that are going to lead the league. She Alexander he
loves to play, okay, that they want to be out
there on the court, and if it ad just a
little bit more. And I hate the conversation too about
why should we have to peel back and shorten the season.
I mean, you can't do it anyway because the TV
(36:17):
is too much money. Those eighty two games matter. You
take off ten, that's that's money lost. Millions and millions
of dollars lost. That's not gonna happen. Well, you don't
think they get rid of All Star Game and all
of that is money, it's tied into your TV.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
Contract.
Speaker 12 (36:33):
Well, you think they're adding into you know, the play
ad and you know the postseason because it's part of TV,
so you can't.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
You're not going shorten the season.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Always great to connect with, you have fun in the offseason.
Thanks for joining us. You got a captain that is
Jim Jackson, former NBA player, fourteen years in the league
and works for Fox and Turner covers the Clippers as well.
Take a break, Last call for phone calls? What we learn?
Wants in store tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern,
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Last call for phone calls, What we learned, What's in
store tomorrow? All of that going on. Let me see, oh,
this day in sports history as well. Jim Jackson's really good.
It is really thoughtful, played in the league fourteen years,
a lot of fun to talk to. How about this
day in sports history, Paul, what do you have for me?
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Nineteen oh four, the third perfect game in Major League
history is thrown by Cy Young of the Boston Red
Sox against the Philadelphia Athletics. And what's the stat on
sy Young. He never won a cy Young.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Very weird.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Pete Rose of the Reds got hit number three thousand
in nineteen seventy eight. Nineteen ninety five, the last game
was played at Boston Gardens or Atlanta Magic beat the Celtics.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Pete Rose had his three thousand hit off Steve Rodgers
of the Expos On this day in nineteen seventy three,
Secretariat wins the Kentucky Derby. All horses are measured like
that's that's the Jordan right Secretariat. And I don't know
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if his times had has anybody bettered Secretariat's time? It
was just under two minutes. It was one fifty nine
to four at the Kentucky Derby. Now I don't know
what it was at the Belmont because that's when he
blew away the field. Yes, Martin.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
My favorite thing about Secretariat he was in Sports Century
fifty Grace Athletes of All Time.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
And I was hosting Sports Century. The number the feedback
we got you put a horse in there, and I
was the face of Sports Century, so I'm going, yeah, yeah,
we did. I think there are a couple of horses
that were like war admiral or Man of War or
something in there. Yeah, Paul, and his interview was terrible.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
There was cockey talk and smack about other horses seventy three,
Secretariat two thousand and one, marn Arcos seven.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Every other one has been two minutes or more. What
about Belmont because bellmarking, I think I think Shed finished
in second in the Belmont, like twenty six links behind Secretariat,
something crazy like that. I could be making this up.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Rich in Wisconsin, Hi, rich thanks for holding best and
worst of the weekend.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Hey Dan, thanks to.
Speaker 13 (39:29):
State my call five eleven A saw two bills. So
I just want to throw a shout out. Let me
see how's it go. I'm trying to get a lot
in here. Seton MVD when I was at the show
in Green Bay, that was pretty awesome. And the fact
(39:49):
that Seton works the crowd as much as he does,
and the fact that it just happened with your interview
with Jim Jackson, you are probably be one of the
best out there that every interview at too like the interview,
He says, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Well, thank you, thank you, Richard. Take great pride in
the questions we asked there. Uh, Doc Emrick is going
to be on the show tomorrow. It's been a while
since we talked to Doc now in retirement, but we thought,
you know, Stanley Cup playoffs, so you don't play by
play around the house. Uh like, don't have time for
other phone calls. Sorry about that, Yes, Pauline.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
The fastest Belmont was seventy three secretary at two minutes
and twenty four seconds.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Who finished second? Was it in that race? Was it shed?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Checking?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I think I think the horse was shed for some reason. Right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
I wonder if Doc when he comes on and you
talk about retirement, he uses a gajillion words for retirement. Oh,
like you know how he never says the same thing
like Jimmy's it over.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Here, shuffles it over there. He's like, well, I withdrawn
from the workforce. Yes, I'm leaving the service and stepping down.
The career culmination is.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Here at the Belmont and seventy three secretariat first twice
a prince my gallant private smiles and sham.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Oh sham, damn that's in damn todd wit did I
learned today?
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Jim Jackson's top five NBA players right now, step Joger,
Greek Freak, SGA and ant Man.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Have a great day, everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
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Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
Marvin Prince
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