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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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next year.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
DraftKings just sent those to me.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Your edmondton Euler's are the favorites to win it next
year after not winning it the last two years, followed
by the Panthers. The Stars and the Hurricanes are tied,
and then the Avalanche as well.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yes, Paul, we all are looking each other saying, why
not the Panthers.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm not sure what moves that the Panthers have to
make in the off season to keep him everybody in place.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
I'm going to guess that's probably yes, Tom.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Or is it as simple as what's the likely of
them winning three in a row? It's got to be
the second best team with a runner up will finally
win next year.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Okay, well, I'm just giving you the odds right now.
According to DraftKings, I also have the points spread for
tomorrow Game six thunder favored by six and a half SGA.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
The over under is thirty three and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Tyrese Halliburton with the tender calf muscle over unders thirteen
and a half for him eight seven, seven to three
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Speaker 6 (01:40):
Show pull question for the final hour of the program.
Seat we got up there right now? Should Tyrese Haliburton
play in Game six?

Speaker 7 (01:48):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Or no?

Speaker 8 (01:49):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Absolutely?

Speaker 9 (01:51):
Yeah right now?

Speaker 6 (01:51):
Seventy seven percent of that the audience have that there
is some thought to rest your calf for a Game seven,
if you could get there.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I would arrested him in game five to be healthy
for Game six. You can't have Game seven unless you
get Game six. I got to make sure he's as
healthy as possible. And this is the kind of injury
from what I'm told, you would normally sit out. If
this happened during the regular season, somebody would sit out.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
A game or two. Well, it's the NBA Finals.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
But I also I want him out there because he
wants to be out there, and when he's healthy, he's
great for us. But I don't want him out there
where he's hurt or and or hurting us. And this
is where Rick Carlisle I think made a tactical error.
Don't have him out there. He might want to go
out there. I mean, not everybody is Willis Reid in

(02:43):
nineteen seventy during Will Chamberlain dragging yourself out there and
you hit a couple of buckets. I mean it helped
that Weld Fraser had thirty six points in nineteen assists
or nobody cares about Willis Reid came out and scored
two baskets. It's what did you do when you were
out there? Are you helping your tea? And I don't
think Tyrese Haliburton helped his team because TJ McConnell was

(03:04):
playing so well. I would have stayed with that hot
hand and the bench was playing really well and you
could have won that game. But I can't have Tyre
I mean, I'm gonna know early with Tyrese Haliburton, I
would think and if I'm okac, I'm gonna work him.
I don't know who he's going to guard, but I'm

(03:25):
gonna make sure that we work him at both ends
of the floor.

Speaker 9 (03:29):
Yes, Martin screen rolls all day long.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, yeah, Paul, to be contrarian here. What if Rick
Carlo thought to himself, this might be the ultimate move,
or desperation move. You rest Halliburton for the Thursday night game.
You let your second unit full speed ahead if you
steal that game. Now you have a guy on five
days rest coming back to help you in a game seven,
and the pressure changes.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Now the media is going to be all over him
to say you have to win game six to get
to game seven. You took a chance on not winning
a game, and therefore there is no game seven. I
understand what you're saying, but I think I would have
had Tyreez Halibert and not played the second half in
the previous game to be as healthy as possible for

(04:12):
this game, and because once again, if you don't win tonight,
nobody cares about game seven. Scott in Florida, Hi Scott,
thanks for holding what's on your mind today?

Speaker 7 (04:23):
Good morning, Dan, First time Midtime five nine one seventy.
I'm going to take on the Panthers on the seat
talk and then I have a family advice question for
you too, if you'll indulge me. Got to give the
Panthers their credit. You know, in the finals the last
three years in a row, two back to back titles,
so they're dynastic.

Speaker 10 (04:43):
Love that word.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Got it with you, guys.

Speaker 7 (04:45):
But to that note, you have to give the Lightning
their credit too, and you did. Dan. You've been good
about pointing out their greatness in Florida as well. But
Tampa Bay still ow and hockey in Florida with three
Cups just outside the last two decades. Now, the Panthers
are trying well to be there soon.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
But just saying Jaffa Bay all right, well, thank you Scott.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
By the way, the thing that you know, you talk
to teams and you'll watch for trends. Who gets out
early in hockey, who gets out early, who gets out
early in baseball? Basketball doesn't matter because it you know
that such an ebb and flow, you know, the points
spread swings. The Panthers scored thirteen first period goals in

(05:26):
the Stanley Cup final. They scored two or more goals
in the first period in every single game. You can't
come back from that, like you're constantly thinking about, we
got to score gotta score, gotta score, and Florida jumps
on top. And then all of a sudden, you know
you're you're playing from behind, and it changes your game plan.

(05:48):
How long you keep somebody on the ice? What is
the game plan when they're on the ice, off the ice?
All to those different things, Florida was just an unbelievably
dominant team. And I still like what Steve Levy said
in the first hour. It was his six game sweep. Yes,
you had the first two games, three games that were interesting,
but man, these last three Florida was a great team.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Uh. AJ in Cincinnati, Hi AJ, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 11 (06:16):
I've seen therapy one six forty pm. I'm just calling
and says I want to take you a monster fallow
the daylight and I worse my wife at.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
This sounds not very good, AJ, So maybe try it
again where you're not on a speakerphone.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Jay in Michigan, Hi J, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 12 (06:40):
Hey DP, how are you doing?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Great? J?

Speaker 13 (06:43):
Good?

Speaker 7 (06:43):
Good?

Speaker 6 (06:44):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (06:45):
Dynasty talk goes?

Speaker 12 (06:46):
What about the Russian five for the Detroit Red Wings
with you know, Seeve Weiserman the captain of my life?
Good type of deal.

Speaker 13 (06:54):
And then.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Michigan just dominating Ryan Day. That's okay, okay, Ohio State
dominated Michigan for a long time. To bring it up.
Yeah yeah, Red Wings, Yeah, I mean there's a lot
of dynasties. It's not that we're purposely missing them. We're

(07:18):
just talking about some teams and are they a dynasty?
Red Wings were a dynasty, but we were talking about
San Francisco Giants. They would win a title, not make
the playoffs, win a title, not make the playoffs, win
a title. Is that a dynasty? Did the Patriots have
two different bookend dynasties there?

Speaker 9 (07:36):
Yes, marm If the Chiefs don't win any more Super Bowls,
would they be considered a dynasty.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
It feels that way.

Speaker 9 (07:48):
The Chiefs are one hundred percent one hundred percent of dynasty,
so when a super Bowl you had to go through them.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Also true, and they got two super super Bowls, right,
three super Bowls?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
That's it?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, I mean, barely a dynasty, but definitely yeah. Yeah, sure,
I mean we were handing it out like you know,
Halloween candy. Now you get a dynasty, and you get
a dynasty, and you get a dynasty, all right, I'm fun.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
The bad boy Pistons dynasty. No, okay, just just throwing
that out there. You know they would argue otherwise, Yes.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Paul, Yeah, the Chiefs losing two Super Bowls in the
past five six years actually helps them be a dynasty.
It's like they're always in it. They won three loss too,
but that's that's pure dynasty. That actually helps.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah. But the Bills lost four in a row and
nobody says that was a dynasty.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
No, no, not the losing. You have to have the
winning first.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
But they did get there four consecutive years.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
The rynasty but three, three and two in six years.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
THEO in Syracuse, Hi, theo.

Speaker 11 (08:58):
DP so much under five to eleven, No soul in
valor two twenty twists that steal, thank you, sir, you
sole much thunder. Let's talk about miss dynasties, the Bills
being the epic example.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, yeah, we've discussed.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
But I look at that and in the old days
before the Super Bowl, if the Buffalo Bills won four
consecutive AFL titles, they would have been a dynasty. Before
you had the AFL NFL playing the Super Bowl, you
had teams that won AFL championships or NFL championships, Cleveland
Browns won NFL championships, and you might look at them

(09:47):
as a dynasty. They weren't playing against the AFL back then.
Dan and Milwaukee, Hi, Dan, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 12 (09:56):
Second time caller loved the show. Got a quick question
Pat Casey and the Oregon State Beavers. Would you consider
them a dynasty or would you consider Pat Casey the dynasty?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Well, I did watch yesterday as Oregon State lost to Louisville.

Speaker 12 (10:13):
Yes, I know I was sad, but I was just
looking like two thousand and six, two thousand and seven,
twenty eighteen. I think they took him to the the region.
What's the most through that span.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, I mean I didn't do a deep dive on it,
but I did watch the game. Bases loaded, ninth inning,
no outs, Oregon State is going to win, reliever comes in,
strike out, strikeout, and then a little pop out, and
I go, you just lost. And then Louisville ended up

(10:47):
getting a couple of base runners on maybe loaded the
bases as well, and then you got a sacrifice fly
and ended up winning. You know, the Women's College World
Series was awesome. Men's College World Series awesome. Scott in Arizona. Hi, Scott,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 11 (11:06):
Good morning Dan.

Speaker 14 (11:07):
The other day, when Brian Wilson passed away, I got
to thinking who would be on my Mount Rushmore of
rock and roll?

Speaker 8 (11:14):
I came up with well.

Speaker 14 (11:15):
Brian Wilson, of course, Bob Dylan and John Lennon. But
I couldn't come up with a fource. Do you guys
have any ideas who else would be up there with those?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
With those three guys, Oh, I'd need time to think
about that, but thank you, Scott. Way too many people
to put up there, yes, Marvin.

Speaker 9 (11:36):
Because is he talking about songwriters artists just in general?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, those are all songwriters if you think about it, Dylan, Lennon,
Brian Wilson. But yeah, there are way too many people
you could put in there, Yes, Mark.

Speaker 9 (11:51):
Is McCartney, Lennon like magic Bird?

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yes, yes, that's a two people for one slot.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Yes, Yes, it's tough to not put Chuck Berry in
that the spot. I mean he's the godfather of rock
and roll. Sure that's the blueprint, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, you're always.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Going to offend somebody if you go, Okay, there's my
Mount Rushmoreton.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
What about you know, well, where do you think Chuck
Berry got it, he got.

Speaker 9 (12:21):
Is.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Mozart was Mozart rock and roll before we even knew
what rock and roll was.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Really, here's kind of emo. Yeah, it's a little sensitive,
but he wasn't a singer songwriter.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
He just played piano and sweepy bangs and like stun't
know me.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
He died early. That's rock and roll, that is super.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
But he didn't die at twenty seven. Now, I think
I was going to say if he.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Had started the trend of rock and rollers who died
at twenty seven, because there's so many that died at
twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
You imagine if Mozart was the first to do that.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Tearing up Victorian Tellroom.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
No, he did, he was. He was kind of wild. Yeah,
he was a rock and roll star. Like back then
it was a big deal. Plus you were playing in
front of kings and queens, and if they didn't like
how you played, you know, you probably see the Guillean
team beheading.

Speaker 8 (13:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
I think seven someone loses their head.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, there will be no encore. There will be no encore.
Mike and Georgia, Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 13 (13:28):
Hey Dan?

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Hey Mike.

Speaker 8 (13:31):
I was we're talking dynasties.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
I was gonna say the Braves fifteen pennance in a row,
but they only made the world They.

Speaker 12 (13:37):
Only won the World Series the one time.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's tricky with the Braves because we keep thinking, all right,
you had three Hall of Fame pitchers and you won
one World Series. They should they're in these should have
been a dynasty.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Uh. I'm gonna give you a.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Credit that you're always there, but you're not all the
way there.

Speaker 9 (14:01):
Yeah, Marden, would you consider a great run but out
of dynasty?

Speaker 6 (14:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Okay, yeah, it was a great era like the Bills.

Speaker 9 (14:10):
Yeah, great run.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, but you only won one World Series, which still
seems mind boggling that you would have that talent and
they could only win one. Let me see Joseph in Arkansas. Hi, Joe,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 12 (14:30):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (14:30):
Dan Patrick?

Speaker 10 (14:31):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yes?

Speaker 15 (14:32):
I can, Hey buddy, Hey, shout out to all you guys.
I just wanted a quick second. You were going on
about how the stations play the hits, and I really
just wanted to shout you out on the fact of
the Monday after the French Open conclusion, how that was
the first thing you talked about. I've only been in
the sport for probably three or four years now, so
that was super cool for someone like you to address it,

(14:53):
announce it. Actually know what you're talking about. But on
the flip side, the whole fritzy thing with Gage would
he didn't swing the bat and and you came at
him like, hey, you got to play the game. You know,
that's the whole ordeal. Like he went up there with
the bat and he didn't swing, So to me, that's
not playing the game.

Speaker 10 (15:10):
It was bush league.

Speaker 15 (15:11):
He ruined the perfect game.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Like I said, thank you guys, all right, thank you Joseph.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
There was a compliment in there. You get on base,
that's all. Get on base. I don't care how it's
only three to nothing elimination game. You lean into a
pitch or they'll allow you to lean into pitch or
not get.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Out of the way.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Get on base, Get on this when you take a walk,
not necessarily swinging the bat either.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
We don't have a problem with that. Is it bush league? Probably?
But I don't. I'm at that point. I don't. I'm
trying to win. I'm not here.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
I don't get style points if they go yeah, you
know you guys did win, but you know he didn't
try to get out of the way.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Whatever it takes, and I don't think it was one
of those where it's coming right at me. I'm just
gonna stay here stationary. You know it was a breaking ball.
But whatever it takes to get on this, I will
not be no hit. I will not let you get
a perfect game. I don't care. You can criticize me
all you want. I will not let you have that

(16:20):
moment at my expense. I right will take a break.
More phone calls coming up back after this Dan Patrick show.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
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listen live. More phone calls coming up. Paully has a
good idea bad idea? Can you have individual dynasties? I
brought this up earlier when Lebron went to what eight

(16:50):
consecutive NBA finals? Is he because he's the common denominator?
Is he a dynasty? Michael Phelps? Is he a dynasty?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'd say yes, Usain Bolt Dynasty, Tiger Woods Dynasty, Jack
Nicholas Dynasty, tennis players dynasties like individual or at least
it's dynastic, but you know, it's fun to talk about
also to remember what people did, how long they did

(17:21):
it for teams, how long they did it for consistency.
What do you do in the years when you don't
make the playoffs? You know that's the knock on Jordan,
if there is really a knock, Well, what did you
do in those other six years or aside from those
six years, the other years when you didn't win a championship?
And Mike's not playing for a championship, he never lost one,

(17:42):
so it was they were winning a title or they weren't.
Whereas lebron was getting to a championship and he wasn't
winning as often as Michael was, but he got there
far more often. And I think getting there those teams,
those players deserve far more credit than they get because
it used to be with the Super Bowl, we'd be like, man,

(18:03):
the Broncos are bums.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
They got blown out or the Bills lost again.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
You got that far, but then what happened on the
Grand Is stage really affected how people remembered you. And
I think we've done a disservice to the Buffalo Bills
and the Minnesota Vikings. And it affects guys with their
Hall of Fame careers because we use the titles as
sort of the here is what puts somebody over the top,

(18:29):
or you didn't win a title, this doesn't put you
over the top.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, Pauline, Okay, here's a question for the room. Would
Michael Jordan's career be considered more impressive or less impressive
if you were six and three in the finals instead
of six and zero in the finals? Less impressive even
though he made it, got his team there three extra times.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
I would count it. But you know, people don't see
it the way I see it. What Lebron did is
incredible to get to the NBA finals. Mike got there,
and Mike One didn't even get to a seventh game.
You know, for a long time, Joe Montana was the
best quarterback because he went to four Super Bowls and
never lost, never threw an interception. Well, what Brady did?

(19:13):
You're getting to the Super Bowl, You're you're winning, but
you're also getting there. And I think that consistency of
you're at least in the conversation of winning a championship
that year and I think that we devalue that for
some reason that you lost.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Therefore, how can we give you credit?

Speaker 9 (19:30):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Time, like if Brady.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
Went three and seven to that point or two and eight,
is Montana better than Brady?

Speaker 16 (19:35):
Like what that?

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yes, he would be, he would be viewed as better.

Speaker 16 (19:39):
Even though ten super Bowls to four. I'm just I know,
it's insane.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
This is this is how we reckon. This is what
Lebron was saying. Here's Lebron on his podcast with Steve
Nash talking about our obsession with championships.

Speaker 17 (19:52):
I don't know why I was discussed so much in
our sport and why is the all be all of everything?
You sit here and tell me Alan Iverson and Charles
Barkley and Steve Nash, you know, you know, wasn't unbelievable, Like, oh,
they can't be talked about or discussed with these guys.

Speaker 9 (20:14):
Is because this guy.

Speaker 17 (20:15):
Won one ring or won two rings or one like
It's just it's just weird to me. It's like Sam
Peyton Manning can't be in the same room with Brady
or telling me that Dan Marino is not the greatest
slinger of all time, or he can't be in a
room with those guys. Because he didn't win a championship,
they don't discuss those things.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I still think this is a roundabout way of Lebron
talking about, Hey, I didn't win as many championships as Michael,
but that doesn't mean I'm not the goat. You have
an obsession with winning championships when it's about a lot
more than just that.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
It's a lot more than one player.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Maybe maybe I'm reading way too much into this, but
it feels like felt like when I heard it, it's
Lebron saying I might end up with four, but look
at what I did my entire career, and he's got
a point, Like I can say, the best resume in
the history of the NBA is Lebron James. A number

(21:15):
of times he went to a championship. He won four titles, MVPs,
all time leading scorer up there and all time leader
and assists, steals, all Star performances, appearances, still relevant, still
playing well, still getting twenty five at night, you're in
your four.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
I mean, if I look at that, it's hard to
argue with that.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Now you can say, well, Bill Russell won those titles
he did, he was the lynchpin he was the guy
on the greatest dynasty that we've seen in sports. He
wasn't a great offensive player, he was just a great player.
What do you need from me? That was So it's
different with that because that's a team. The whole team

(21:58):
went to the Hall of Fame. Your coach, GM is
maybe the greatest of all time, pulled off some of
the greatest trades in the history of the sport, maybe
the greatest trades in the history of the sport. But
I think if you look at start to finish living
up to the hype everything that he did, you can
make it, you know, a worthy argument that he's the

(22:18):
greatest of all time. But it'll come back to Mike
never got to a seventh game. Mike won six titles,
Mike took time off. If you had one game to win,
who do you want, Michael or Lebron. You know we've
done this many, many, many times. But I think Lebron
is getting at getting to a point of I don't

(22:38):
need six to be the greatest of all time. Raj
in Chicago, Hey, Raj, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 18 (22:47):
Good morning, mister Patrick. Thanks for taking my call. As always,
I'm not sure if anybody mentioned San Antonio Spurs, who
the opposite of I'm a dynasty. I mean he won
five ships in fifteen years, but none of them what consecutive.
They was always in in composition for a title. But
you know, does anybody look at them as, you know,
a dynasty?

Speaker 13 (23:08):
Thanks taking my call?

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yeah, thank you, Ron. Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I think we look at that Spurs run as a dynasty.

Speaker 9 (23:18):
Yeah, Mark, Especially when you have one player that's a constant,
which was Tim Duncan, you can consider that a dynasty.
If it was Tim Duncan for the first four championships
and then somebody else, it might not be. But if
there's a constant, then I consider a dynasty.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Tom in North Carolina, Hi, Tom, wents on your mind today?

Speaker 10 (23:37):
Hey DP, I'm gonna take a twist on what PAULI
was talking about earlier with actors. As far as dynasty,
I'm gonna put it in like a movie category. Would
you consider maybe Fast and Furious, Jason Bourne, The Mission
Impossible movies? Are they dynastics?

Speaker 19 (23:52):
Sure?

Speaker 8 (23:55):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I guess Rocky Dynasty, Godfather Dynasty.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Two movies.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, Godfather takes a big hit on Godfather three.

Speaker 7 (24:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
But the sequel was better than the original. That only
two yeah, yeah, yeah, two really good ones.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
That would be like The Bulls. The Bulls second run
of three titles people think was better than their first
run of three titles.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Evan in Texas, Hi, Evan, went's on your mind today?

Speaker 19 (24:26):
Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. Six five, two fifteen. Hey,
I'm a podcast listener. So I heard the whole Todd
sequence about the guy not getting out of the way
from the pitch yesterday afternoon, so I wanted to just
chime in a little bit. One of my favorite things
about when Todd really gets on a roll is just

(24:46):
being able to hear Marvin laughing out loud in the
background through Todd's open mic. I think that that alone
cements Todd is the King of comedy.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, but Todd is really funny when he's on trying
to be really funny. That's part of the problem for
a guy who thought he was a stand up comedian.

Speaker 16 (25:07):
We're seeing what happened on stage if your time.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yes, yes, thank you, Evan. Yes, you are funny, but
you've had you know, uh. Sandlers said this.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Will Ferrell.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Will Ferrell said that Todd's really funny when he's not
trying to be funny.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
If I can make people laugh, whether it's a tender
or not, that makes me feel great.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
And that's why you are the King of content, is
what you are and our most valuable dan end Pauline
has good idea bad idea?

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Would you explain?

Speaker 4 (25:37):
All right, this is a something I've been thinking about.
I want the room to judge it. It's a two parter.
Its one sports and one's pop culture. You guys know
MTV if you ever watch MTV, it's still a channel.
I didn't even really know it was still a channel,
like you could find it on your basic cable. So
for the past five years, MTV has basically had on
repeat this show called Ridiculousness. It's kind of a reality
type show. It's horrible, by the way, and but they've

(26:00):
had it on It's not funny nor inventive, but they've
had it on repeat for years and years and years.
The one main channel for MTV what If MTV, which
I think debuted August first one, nineteen eighty one. What
If On this August First, they went back and started
over and started playing day by day. For the next

(26:21):
ten years, what MTV broadcast from nineteen eighty one to
nineteen ninety one in real time, like that August first
day and just play it. Yeah, and all the old
school MTV fans, the older crowd that loves it could
go back and watch what was the cool videos, the
new shows even like the shows like the Real World
would start. But do that for the next ten years

(26:41):
and recapture that old audience.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
But you have to pay the artist if you're going
to be airing their videos.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
I don't know, because MTV has a separate channel that
still shows some videos, but it's not on basic cable. Yeah,
let's say they had the rights and could just hit
play and.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Oh, I'm fine with that. Bring back, you know, have
the old VJs. Yeah, I'm fine, it's awesome. Yeah, give
me Allen Hunter again. Yeah, Martha Quinn, Martha Quinn, Yeah,
loved Allen Hunter. Yes, yes, Mark, who are these people?
This might be age thing?

Speaker 9 (27:12):
It is. I was gonna say, Carson Dally. I was like,
who's Allan Hunter.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
That's total request live blah blah blah blah bubbah. Yeah. Well,
paula short of the Goat, Yes, Paul.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
So let's say that was an okay idea how about
this one as well?

Speaker 3 (27:25):
What my emi, there is.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
No ESPN Classic anymore correct. I think it's it's gone.
I think it's gone gone. What if every night around
midnight or something like that. On one of the ESPN channels,
they played in an hour long sports center from nineteen
eighty two nineteen eighty six on this almost like this
day in history, but they just said, on this day,
we're gonna play the June what's the date today? The

(27:52):
June eighteenth, nineteen ninety Sports Center and you could tune
in and watch it. What were the cool highlights, what
were the cool interviews? And for the old schools sports
fans and the new school fans, they could learn about
what was going on on that date.

Speaker 8 (28:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
I'm fine with them, all right.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, so long as I get approval of my hair
when I'm going to be on, because there are a
couple of couple of years where it's kind of rough.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
But yeah, it'd be fun.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
I like those ideas.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, well you came up with them, That's what I
really Yeah, you really like those ideas.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
But those are good?

Speaker 8 (28:21):
Is there?

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Fun? Yeah? Scott and Virginia, Hi, Scott, Hey, good morning.

Speaker 20 (28:29):
So a few things first, of all, I'm not a
Lebron James fan, but I agree with them on this one, don't.
I don't understand the infatuation with championships, specifically into getting
in the Hall of Fame. And you know, I'm a
big baseball fan, and you know, they don't talk about
baseball players Tony Glenn, Rod Crew, how many championships they

(28:54):
want to get in the Hall of Fame. So you
can't elevate your entire team when there's you know, in
baseball thirty two players in football eighty five.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah, but it helps a pitcher.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
It helps when a pitcher has won big games in
the World Series.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Thank you, Scott.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
And you're right, we don't hold Bonds accountable for not winning.
He was a great player. You know how many World
Series you know, did stand Usual win, Ted Williams win,
Babe Ruth win. Like, we kind of have an idea,
but I don't know if it matters, but you do.

(29:33):
You're elevated when you go Kurt Shilling playoffs, man John
Smoltz playoffs, Andy Pettitt playoffs, Whitey Ford playoffs. You're elevated
if you're a pitcher because you can go out and
win a game yes, Mark.

Speaker 9 (29:48):
Baseball was about numbers. I remember four h six was
Ted Williams, Willie May six sixty, Babe Ruth seven to fourteen.
Those were That's what was important, not the number of championships.
I had no idea Ted Williams never won the World Series. Yeah,
I told him maybe I just read it in a
book somewhere. Yeah, So that wasn't important. It was just
about the numbers.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, definitely numbers driven. I don't know if we're trying
to think, who do you hold accountable for not winning?
I mean, Bond's greatness, but he never won, and who
else would be in that category? And Jeter gets credit

(30:27):
for winning And granted three thousand hits will still get
I mean, he had far more than three thousand hits,
but that'll get you in the Hall of Fame. But
his his status is elevated because he won and he
was really good in the postseason.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yes.

Speaker 9 (30:44):
Is there any players that are in the Hall of
Fame where you're like, Eh, if he didn't have that
World Series championship, he might not be in.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Oh, there's some guys who were in the Hall of Fame,
but it's a while ago where you're like huh, that guy.

Speaker 9 (30:57):
Some of those old Yankees probably.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
There, there were I just remember looking through and you're going,
I don't remember him being a Hall of Famer, Yeah, PAULI, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
It does feel like in football, it's clear cut. If
you get a Super Bowl, it's hard not to do
as a quarterback. As a quarterback, you know, like if
Phil Rivers had one Super Bowl victory where he was MVP,
we wouldn't even discuss him.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, but La Danian Tomlinson didn't win anything, and nobody
says way never won anything. It's quarterbacks, quarterbacks, quarterbacks, and
it feels like pitchers, or at least it used to be.
Not anymore in baseball, but if you wanted to it
was held against Clayton Kershaw. He was going to be
a Hall of Famer. But it's like Greg Maddox not

(31:39):
good in the postseason. Tom glab An average in the postseason.
John Smolts, you get in the Hall of Fame because
you're a great postseason pitcher. Jack Morris probably got in
the Hall of Fame because he was a really good
postseason pitcher.

Speaker 9 (31:53):
Yes, Mark, if Andy Petti didn't get busted for the peds,
is he in the Hall of Fame because he had
a great postseason career.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Probably so, and he pitched for the Yankees. Yes, probably so.
But then he get popped twice.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, PAULI, I think it's once for pettit and he
jumped on the grenade. Remember after he got it, he
jumped on and did the interview two days later, and
I was trying to get back.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, but they see that's so phony.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
It didn't help his cause.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
No, so anybody who gets hurt, then you have a
whole passed to use steroids to get back because you
got to help your team.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I mean, I get somebody gave him that advice and
he's like, yeah, I'll just say I'm the ultimate team player.
And I wanted to get back. Mm not so fast, Yes, yes,
Hunt or you.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
Could always misremember his teammates that card they put it.

Speaker 9 (32:41):
In my smoothie.

Speaker 16 (32:42):
I don't know what my trainer. Why would he put
that in.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
My Thank God that we're so past that. At least
I hope we're past that. As a kid who might
not kid anymore, but he played minor league baseball, and
I told this story in greater detail.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
But when they knew that they were going to be tested.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
There was a shake that they could drink and they
would always test negative and they'd get a heads up
and then you know, you drink your shake. Because in
the minors they were far more diligent of trying to,
you know, keep the steroids out of getting to Major
League Baseball. The commissioner, Bud Seelig said, I can test
him in the minor leagues. I'm not going to be

(33:21):
able to do it the same way in the major leagues.
But this is a guy now, but he was a
kid at the time and he had They said, they
took this shake and it covered everything up.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Let's take a break. Last call for phone calls?

Speaker 16 (33:39):
Do you mean a prescription?

Speaker 3 (33:41):
What we learned? What's in store tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio
w APP.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Last call for phone calls? Well, we learned. What's day
in sports history?

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Paul, Dan It's very light today, almost very almost, So
I'm gonna give you this week in movie history nineteen
eighty four. Here are movies that were released in a
eight day span in nineteen eighty four, Long Time Ago,
Streets of Fire, Diane Lane, Willem Defoe's debut fun movie
How About This one? Ghostbusters three hundred million dollars released today,

(34:21):
The Karate Kid Okay, Top Secret with Val Kilmer kind
of his breakout bachelor Party with Tom Hanks before it
became a serious actor and one of your favorite Dand
Cannonball Run two.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
I thought everything was answered in Cannonball Run one.

Speaker 7 (34:40):
Yeah, But.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I kid Adam Sandler about if they do Grown Ups three,
I'll go, didn't we answer all the questions in grown
Ups and Grown Ups two?

Speaker 3 (34:51):
And He's like, no, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Danny, So like, hey, if you want to have grown
Ups three and you want to put me in, be
more than happy on this date. In two thousand, Tiger
Woods won his first US Open. He won by fifteen
shots over No, No, that's the US Open. You won
by fifteen shots over everybody. They should have put Tiger

(35:17):
alone on the leader board and then gone to the
second page just out of respect for what he did.
Nobody should be up there second. And it was Ernie
Else and Miguel I hel Jimenez, who is second in
that US Open at Pebble Beach.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yes, Paul, I don't know if.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
There's a sports comp for what Tiger did there to
blow away the field of the other best people on earth.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Katie Ladeki. Oh, but she's not swimming against everybody.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Kind of is everyone had a chance to be in
that pool.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
But not everybody is in that event. Yeah, but you know,
the total dumb when you're finished and then they're I
mean they're gonna be done. It's going to take a
few seconds when you're dry, Yes, when you're driving home
and they just finish. The dugout altercation between Reggie Jackson
and Billy Martin in nineteen seventy seven.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
This is on National TV.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Reggie fails to hustle to catch a fly ball, comes
into the dugout and Billy Martin is waiting for him,
the manager of the Yankees, and Billy would have fought him.
I mean, he probably would have gotten crushed by Reggie.
But imagine if that would happen now, like one Soto
comes in and doesn't hustle, Well, that can actually happen.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I don't know if any like we're not.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Such sticklers of running hard anymore, you know, Ah, you
got to it.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
You know, you.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Tried kind of I don't know if we're benching somebody.
Let me see Jeff in Washington. Hi, Jeff, what's on
your mind today?

Speaker 8 (36:54):
Born Dan? Danette's first time and very long time six
feet about ten seems to be in two ten. Okay,
So I wanted to talk. I wanted to talk to you,
Dan about your comments about lebron So. One of one
of the things I shared with the guys that in
the back room were that without hearing the context of
the conversation or what the question might have been, because

(37:17):
I am respectfully in opposition to what your thoughts are
in that, I believe that it just has to do
with you know, why guys that haven't won championships shouldn't
be in the Hall of Fame, Barkley Nash.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
But they are. They are in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 8 (37:35):
Both Nash and Barkley.

Speaker 17 (37:36):
So.

Speaker 8 (37:36):
But the pedestal, the pedestal that they're.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Held to is Dan Marino's in the Hall of Fame,
Alan Iverson's. Everybody mentions in the Hall of Fame. They've
all been recognized for their greatness.

Speaker 8 (37:46):
Okay, I got to I stand corrected in on my
apologies and thanks for taking my call down, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
No worries, Jeff. Once again, these guys were all recognized
as among the greatest you know, at their positions in
their sports. That's why I don't know exactly what Lebron
is saying. Yeah, they didn't win a title, Okay. It
felt like he's saying, I won't catch Michael. Let's look
at everything I've done, Why can't I be the greatest

(38:13):
of all time?

Speaker 8 (38:13):
This is just my.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Opinion, and I don't know the context other than what
he said. The first thing that struck me is Lebron
thinks he's the greatest of all time. He does, and
he should.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
I just he's still trying to convince the Jordan purist.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Hey look at this differently. I think that's what he's asking.
That's just my opinion. Todd, call for Lebron?

Speaker 8 (38:43):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Okay? James in Virginia, Hi James, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 20 (38:49):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (38:49):
Thank you for taking my call. Brother. Happy Wednesday, DT Dan,
that's man. Salute the commanders and speaking of the commanders,
and then Washington Redskins, Hail to the Redskins. My favorite
Dumonde of all time. Between eighty two ninety one, five
NFC championships for Super Bowl, three Super Bowl rings, and
you were right, fiveman, Ripkins. But it was Doug Williams

(39:10):
in the eighty seven Super Bowl against the Denver Broncos
with the greatest quarter of all time thirty five points
and seventeen plays. What a game, man, Too bad, I
was only four. I couldn't watch it like that. I'll
give a little pushback if you win three out of five,
if the goals win championships. The San Francisco Giants are
definitely a dynasty. Two comments, real quick. But Lebron James

(39:32):
a dynasty just by himself. Lebron James nine straight finals,
three titles and haul of very good. Michael Vick, hate
to throw it on you in the last five minutes,
but if Michael.

Speaker 7 (39:43):
Vick all of very good?

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, yeah, not a Hall of Famer if I include
college en pros, but they don't do that with the NFL.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Yes, Baul he unfortunately his first ballot of Hall of
should have done a lot more.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yes, I think we look at him as a disappointment,
not like the stephen A said that Giannis, if he
doesn't win another title.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Will be an underachiever.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
What really, you think you'd be an underachiever?

Speaker 9 (40:10):
Did you see him when he first got today?

Speaker 3 (40:11):
He came out of no way. He's one of the
great stories in NBA history.

Speaker 9 (40:15):
Yeah, what do you do with it?

Speaker 3 (40:17):
He won two MVPs and then a title.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
They would leave a Janis with a solitaire ring.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Todd, what did I learn today?

Speaker 16 (40:25):
And Mon Shepherd said the scottingerpon on Kobe was good
luck trying to stop him.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
A lot of fun today. Thanks for joining us. We
look forward to trying to entertain you tomorrow. For Fritzie Seaton,
Marv Paula, yours. Truly, this has been the Dan Patrick Show.
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