June 18, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan and the Danettes consider the definition of a sports “dynasty” after the Florida Panthers captured their second consecutive Stanley Cup last night. And longtime NHL analyst Steve Levy drops by to lend some perspective to the Panthers’ championship.
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phone calls. All right. Panthers dominated the oilers, and it
felt like it was a little closer than what it
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was because you had a couple of overtime games. It
started out like this could be great, this will be epic.
You're going to get the best player in this sport,
maybe the second or third best player in the sport
going against the Panthers, a great team, and it never materialized.
And now we get back to back Cups and of
course now we have to talk about what is a dynasty,
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which we'll talk about here in a moment, and it
might vary from sport to sport. What is a dynasty?
If you're the Patriots, in your dynasty, it was kind
of spread out, but it was dynastic. And then you
look at the Golden State Warriors a little bit spread out.
It used to be your dynasty was you win three
in a row, four in a row. Go back to
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the Celtics in the sixties. They were winning every single year.
But the dynasty, I think the maybe the sport has
different definition definitions, So we'll explore that coming up. All right,
poll question for the first down of the program is
going to be what Stephen.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Well, I think we could kick around the dynasty topic
a little bit. Okay, I would probably define a dynasty as, say,
three titles in somewhere between five to ten years. It
doesn't have to be three in a row, all right,
but if you're able to get three within that stretch,
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I can't be longer than ten years. I think that
that would qualify you as sustained period of excellence.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Okay, I don't think this team was ever mentioned as
having a dynasty. This team won three titles in five years.
The San Francisco Giants every other year won titles. That's
a dynasty, is it? Or is it just a run?
I don't know, a good run or is it dynasty?
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But then if you don't make the playoffs, I don't
think they made the playoffs in the other years. Can
you be a dynasty if you win, don't make the playoffs, win,
don't make the playoffs win, Yes, pulling.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
That's exactly right, that's the team. I was going to
bring up twenty ten World Series, miss A playoffs, twelve
World Series, miss A playoffs, fourteen Worlds. That feels dynasty
ish though ish three or five? Like Seaton said, that's ish.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
How that's feel super dynasty. But I don't think anybody
gave them credit as having The Giants got a dynasty.
It was they're really good in even number of years,
and then they didn't make the playoffs. I think you
got to make the playoffs. I think you got to
make the playoffs the years that you don't, I don't
know we're groaning.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
We're groaning.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay. I'm I'm a purest and you know I'm old school.
I'm a snob when it comes to my dynasties here, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And I think those Giants teams had three different lineups.
It wasn't like the same group of guys won those
World Series t same manager though, hall of famer yeah,
Chris Boch yes, uh. And they had Buster Posey right
and Madison Bumgardner. Other than that, Tim Litz. Tim was
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he there.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
For all of those? I got to check all very good?
You know, I don't think so. Yes, Tom.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
To me, the word dynasty has got to have a
very high bar to it, besides just you know, making
the playoffs. And I think you've got to win three
in a row, and you got to get there three
in five years. I wouldn't go much past five years.
I think you've got to win three and four. I'll
wink at the winning three and five years to use
the word dynasty.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
San Francisco Giants, did they have a dynasty in your opinion.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
I'm gonna say it doesn't feel dynasty.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You just said three and because it's baseball, Wait, just
you just said three and five years.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
I reluctantly for the Giants.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I don't know, so it's one of those things he
got even mind. Yeah, this is this is why I like,
we've been talking about this whole morning long.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
I understand.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
But it's also like the Hall of Fame when you
hear it. But sometimes that's part of it too.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
You just spend three in five years.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Right, But that's not a strict definition for me. This
is what I'm thinking. It should be something in the
neighborhood of winning three out of four years. But sometimes
the last piece of the puzzle is does that ring?
Does that ring true to you when you hear that
team or that.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Just contradicted yourself a little bit? Yeah know a lot,
Yes it fit.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I don't know anything about hockey, but if you just
look back sort of over the last say ten years,
it looks like on paper and if you're a hockey fan,
don't hold me to this, Okay, I understand I might
be wrong. It feels like they've slowly been building over
the last say like ten years, from a team that
sort of struggled into something great into a powerhouse that
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they are now. Those feel all like dynasty building type moves.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Okay, Tampa Bay Lightning did they have a dynasty? The
Tampa Bay Lightning did they have a dynasty? Because if
if Florida has one, then Tampa Bay had one. I
think the state of Florida has a dynasty going on
when it comes to hockey. But yeah, once again, it's
tricky with the definition of that, and we do get
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caught up on is that a dynasty or not a dynasty?
You know, you'll know it if I if I hear it,
then I'm going to react to it. Yes or no,
it's a dynasty. Okay, I think dynasties come in all
shapes and sizes.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yes, Marvin for Fritzi, would you consider the eighty Celtics
a dynasty? They won titles in eighty one, eighty four,
and eighty six. I think I would, well, wait a minute,
what's the difference.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
And for some reason San Francisco giants to me just
to hear it both the Celtics. Yes, it's a total
bias of the East called whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But like giants nasts because it's not the eighties when
you would know everybody's name and the start.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
If you want to talk about you know, Sidney Wicks
and Jojo White and have the chick and Cowans and everything.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I'm all in, okay, Yeah, yes, the Celtics can't be
because they shared titles during that run and that would
get rid of it. The Lightning won two Stanley Cups
in a row. They could have won three, which would
have cemented them as dynasty. They lost it. Here's a
couple of dynasties. The New England Patriots, starting at one,
they won three out of four Super Bowls, which enters
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you into dynasty category. They went nine years without winning
a Super Bowl, but they were always in the AFC
title gum almost always in it. Then they won three
in five years, so they had both two dynasties and
a run in between it. How about this one, this
is pure dynasty. Golden State Warriors. They starting in twenty fourteen,
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they were in five straight NBA finals and won three
of them. That means a sport ran through them for
five years.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
It's fair to say, Okay, was Lebron James a dynasty?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
No, he went to the NBA finals? How many years?
With nine and ten years? Something crazy? You went eighth
street eight straight NBA finals, Like that's an individual dynasty,
isn't it no matter where he went? His team went
to the NBA finals. So I don't like, can you
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have a singular dynasty, you know, not in a sport
like uh, you know, tennis or golf. But I'm talking
about Lebron doing that eight consecutive years. Yes, Tom, you.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Could be an all time great. I don't think you
could be a person dynasty. I think dynasty to me
is a group or a team make a dynasty. You
could have a dynastic career, but you can't be a dynasty.
To me, that doesn't seem like.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, but I don't even know what it means to
you anymore since you screwed up the San Francisco Giants. Okay,
but I don't think you can call.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
A person a dynasty like a great fighter who went
forty two and oh with thirty three knocks. Dynasty just
sounds strange language wise to call an individual a dynasty.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Was Tiger Woods a dynasty?
Speaker 7 (10:06):
He's an all time great. I wouldn't call any person
a dynasty. I don't care how amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Okay, but we're talking about sustained winning and the common
ground or you know, common denominator was Lebron James and
all of that. Yes, point, I.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Agree with you on this one. I think you've kind
of stumbled upon an individual dynasty and it's a new
thing because the sport ran through Lebron James for a
decade wherever he was, that's where the final was Tiger
Woods for ten to twelve years. The sport ran through him,
and so it is a different type of dyasye.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
But you're right, I need to say the same thing
about the Patriots. We could split it into two if
you just want to do you know, wins, but they dynasties.
They you know, even when they were down, they still
that first dynasty air quotes is five super Bowl appearances
in ten years.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I have no problem calling them a dynasty. Maybe they've
been a dynasty at two separate times book ended, Yeah,
I have no problem with that. It's that run of
whatever that was ten years where they didn't win a
super Bowl, but they still were in the conversation for
a super Bowl, like getting to the Stanley Cup final,
or getting to the NBA Finals, or getting to the
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Super Bowl, Like can you include that in a dynasty
that if you don't win, but you still get to
the championship. Does that factor in? Does it factor in
what you do in the years that you don't win
the championship? Should it factor in that the Giants didn't
even make the playoffs? I think it should. Yeah, Marvin, what.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
About the eighties forty nine ers? So they won a
title in eighty one, then their last title was.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
In eighty nine. I don't think it's a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You don't think so four titles in what nine years?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It feels pretty dynasty issue. But then you also had
other really good teams back then. You had the Giants,
but that's that's what boys, but they were also kind
of on the cusp of you know, dynastic as well.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
But I think that's what makes their run even better
because you got to look at those teams that they
had to fight against to win those four Super Bowls.
Eighty six Giants, eighty seven Redskins, the Vikings were really
good during that time.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
The Bears, oh be sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I heard of them almost like the eighties Lakers, where
the Bears the eighty five Bears a dynasty, A onesie,
A onesie maybe the greatest one off of all time.
We're going to dine out on this for decades. Yes, Seaton, the.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
NFL might be the toughest sport to have a dynasty, okay,
because you have I know, all sports focus on parody,
but they seem NFL seems to take it most serious.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Salary cap Do you have short careers in.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
The NFL, which I think impacts a dynasty because if
you have a lot of turnover, one of the things
about a dynasty to me is a consistent group of players. Maybe,
but in the NFL you have so much turnover it's
tough to say year to year this is the same team.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Maybe we should have started with the Webster Dictionary definition
of dynasty.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yes, conveniently, I have that up on my screen. A
series of rulers or leaders who are all from the
same family, or a period when a country is ruled
by a.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Series of rulers or leaders. Okay, so it comes from
you know.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That kind of thing we've co opted in sports, like
Mount Rushmore used to be a place you'd visit in
South Dakota. Now it's sports radio fodder.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yes, hey, you know the flip side of that too.
I would say probably the easiest sport to have a
dynasty would be college football. Yes, you get the right
coach and a good run of players, you could win.
You could rattle off three out of four, you know,
five whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And it used to be that those players were locked
in for at least three years, if not four years,
you know, when there was no transfer portal. Now it's
a little bit tougher now to you know, you're reloading
every single year. Yes, Tom, is there a name.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Or should there be a name for the anti dynasty?
Like the Bills losing four straight Super Bowls? The Broncos
losing three out of four? You got so far and
you accomplished so much in a short window, but you
just didn't win the championship. Should there be a term
for that?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Or you're just a loser? You got all the way
to the end only.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
To not to make it all the way?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I think we probably.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Don't need a word or a term. Do you have
a word? You don't, But I'd like.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
To think of what, Well, there are a lot of
teams that come close over a short period of time,
and they just come up to.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Maybe come up with the name, and then, you know,
then we could kind of complete the whole thought there.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Yeah, I kind of went to horse before the cart thing.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yes, what did you send me here? Definition of a dynasty?
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yeah, I was looking at dynasty to see you know
you were talking about you can call an athlete a dynasty,
but to me that sounds odd and just AI take
it for what it's worth, defines it as an athlete
can be considered a dynasty. In sports, a dynasty typically
refers to a team or individual, as you said, that
dominates their sport for an extended period, achieving sustained success
and multiple championships.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So we're good. No, no, we're good. So you may
have something there, Thank you, Tom. Steve Levey's going to
join us, join us from Sunrise, Florida. What about a dynasty?
Thirty years covering hockey? Is that a dynasty?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Maybe?
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Yeah, I'll give him a dynasty.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It feels like your four cents.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
It's a broadcasting dynasty.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Thirty years in a row covering the Stanley Cup final.
He believes a dynasty.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
That's the only individual I would give that to.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Is Chrismerman a dynasty, Bob Constace a dynasty?
Speaker 7 (15:36):
And Dan Patrick.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
No, I didn't include myself. You're just trying to suck.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Up to me. I'm considered I gong he's coming any time.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I almost gonged you for your Giants, almost, but I'm
trying not to go to the world too often.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Yes, those those teams Todd was just referring to called bridesmaids.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yes, yeah, run like that, yeah, yes, point or chynasty
because they're crying.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I'm not going to give you a bloop on that one. Right, No,
I'm not going to That doesn't help I retract it,
all right, let me take a break. Steve Levy a
walking dynasty, talking dynasty. We'll join us. Coming up next,
Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (16:38):
Got a lot of phone calls lined up. People want
to talk about dynasties. What is your definition? Marvin just
brought up something during the commercial break that I hadn't
thought of. And when the Giants won three in five
years San Francisco Giants, had Barry Bonds been on that team,
we might have looked at them as a dynasty, or
we wouldn't have any doubt about them being a dynasty.
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But because he wasn't. You're kind of like, well, man,
they kind of pieced together a lineup all three times
they won the World Series. The common denominator was your
manager for the most part. But if Bonds was on there,
then we would be like all those Bonds led Giants
teams that won three World Series titles.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yes, Paul, yeah, star power. Like Seaton said, football usually
get broken up. But those Steeler teams four titles in
six years in the seventies, it felt like the starting
lineup didn't change very much if at all the stars
Joe Green and Mel Blunton, you can go on and on.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, you had the same quarterback, you had same coach,
backfield as well your wide receivers. With the Steelers, just
about everybody on that team felt like became a Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
We love winners.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You go back to those Buffalo Bill teams or the
Vikings that lost four Super Bowls, and you're like, I
don't think so. Like they got to it's amazing you
get to the Super Bowl. Only one team wins, but
you got to the Super Bowl and the Bills went
four consecutive years. Those kinds are Hall of famers. Granted
they didn't win, but I have to factor that in.
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I have to factor that in. You got to these titles.
Steve Levy, he works for the Mothership. He's been there
covering the Stanley Cup Final for over thirty years. He
is a dynasty. He's done it for thirty According to Fritzy,
Steve Levy is a dynasty. You have covered the Stanley
Cup Final every year since nineteen ninety four. Congratulations, Steve DP.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Thank you. It's quite honored.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
I appreciate.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Okay, the Panthers already a dynasty, you know, I.
Speaker 9 (18:38):
Mean the definition is crazy. Just winning two in a
row is not dynasty level for me. Dan, I know,
it's three consecutive trips. I think you have to get
to four. In hockey, I think the Islanders, I think
the Oilers of the eighties, the Canadians.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
I really think like four is.
Speaker 9 (18:59):
A magic for the dynasty. And now that was not
salary cap era, so I get that. But it is remarkable.
And they're doing it in South Florida two, which is
something even more special.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
But I wonder I got even more.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I wonder about that with the state of Florida, with
Tampa Bay and Florida, the trickle down effect on the
youth programs there. It's one thing to be hey, weren't anomaly.
We're a great hockey team in the sun you know,
in the Sunshine State, you know, Tampa Bay. But is
this how much of an effect is this having on
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younger players playing this sport the way they do in Canada.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Absolutely it's a factor.
Speaker 9 (19:37):
They're they're building rinks left and right, and the fan
bases are have really become tremendous. You know, it's not
that long ago the Panthers dead and they were tarping
the top of the arena and now it's that's one
of the bigger rinks I think in the NHL, probably
close to twenty thousand. And that place is full and
they're in it. And you know where the Panthers plays
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not exactly a metropolitan area out in Sunrise. There's not
a lot going on out there, but the organization is.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Very well run.
Speaker 9 (20:08):
Dan They've built they built a practice facility in the
Los Solas area, which is a hot spot. Now I
know the guys who will live in the area and
they take golf carts to practice. I mean, there are
a lot of attractive reasons to want to be a
Florida Panther and attract free agents. The tax issue is
certainly a benefit, but I think that's going to help
keep some guys around too. They win, they treat the
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players right, really first class ownership.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
In both Tampa and for the Florida.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Pantas, it felt like we were going to get a
tight seven game series, It was gonna be dramatic, and
then all of a sudden, something changed and you saw
total domination. What was that one change?
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Dan?
Speaker 9 (20:48):
This was the sweepiest, if you will, the sweepiest six
game series in history, you know, like I mean, this
should have been a four game sweep, and watching each
individual game, it felt like a total sweep. And it's
really easy to criticize Edmonton, but you can't lose sight
of just how great Florida was. They made the Panthers
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made Connor McDavid and Leon dry Side of look pedestrian.
They looked like two players who were individually great. But
if you removed them, and I was telling this to people,
if you took McDavid and Drysidle the way the remaining
ten forwards for the Oilers, I'm not sure I would
have taken one of them, over any of the Florida
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BAMF forwards. I mean the team, the Florida Panthers team
was dominant. The Oilers still probably have the two best
players on the ice, but the Panthers as a team
and certainly in goal, that was a big difficence. The
other thing that jumps out Dan is the dominance in
the first period, and I can't explain it. The last
four games of the period of the series, Florida outscored
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Edmondson nine to nothing.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
The Oilers gave up at least two goals and they
couldn't get out of the first period scoreless or even
tied at one. It was bizarre.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
And the amazing one was the three upping game that
Edmondon actually came back and won that they had no
business and that's a miracle comeback. That's all time, that's
going back to nineteen nineteen. And really that gets forgotten now.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Because the Oilers lost that series.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Okay, if you were running the Edmonton Oilers, you got
a big decision with Connor McDavid. Maybe he has a
big decision. I think he's got one year left. He's
what twenty eight years of age. Widely recognized as the
greatest player in hockey, most talented we've maybe ever seen,
and he doesn't have anything to show for it. Is
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it going to be him wanting to leave or the
Oilers wanting to regroup and try to make this a
full team.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
No, they would never let him leave.
Speaker 9 (22:53):
I mean, the franchise is on the map really right
now because of Connor McDavid.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
I couldn't even imagine that franchise.
Speaker 9 (23:01):
If he left, that will be his decision, and then
you play that game, right if the Oilers.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Games they did this in the eighties, They did this
once before with it.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
But they had a lot more depth. I mean, obviously
it was Gretzky, but they had a lot more depth.
They got probably seven or eight Hall of Famers from
that team. And right now it's you know, it's Tri Suntle,
you know, and and Connorm.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
But is he gonna want to go Steve? They they're
gonna want to keep him. Yeah, But does he say
I've gone as far as I can go?
Speaker 6 (23:30):
I mean that's the question.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
He's changed the agents recently, Dan, I don't know what
that means, but that's probably a factor in all of this.
I think he's a loyal guy. He's made Edmondson his home.
I think he loves it there with his family. You know,
I don't know that, and we're gonna find out soon.
Like we could have this answer in two weeks. And
that's the issue. If the Oilers feel like, hey, we're
not gonna be able to sign this guy no matter
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how many how much money we throw at him. They
can't let him walk to free agency. You can't get
nothing in return for the guy. So that's the But
they've got a lot of holes, Dan, they don't have
enough dogs in the fight. They need a real number
one goaltender. I mean that was one of the areas
Florida out classed him in.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
And listen, I.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
Didn't think Edmondon was gonna win any of the four rounds,
and really any of the first three I had. I
had him losing all three first round of their first rounds,
and then I finally went over and picked him in
the the final in seven. I looked like a total ladiot.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
As usual grade this season for the NHL.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
Off the charts great and I don't care about the
television ratings.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
The finals wasn't our year at the final that's how
this works. But off the charts.
Speaker 9 (24:40):
Four nations out of control, great, Alex Ovechkin unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Even the trade deadline was great. Miko Ranton in a.
Speaker 9 (24:50):
Real superstar gets moved twice during the regular season that
never happens.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
And really the playoffs were terrific. And we're gonna have
an off season.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
You know, it's never gonna be the NFL off season,
but the NHL off season with major names out there,
Mitch Martor in Toronto and a ton of movement and
coaches going in and out. Uh, it's the NHL has
really evolved and elevated itself, I think, and it's fascinating
to watch what's.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Going on now.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Your first year covering the Stanley Cup Final, the Rangers
win the Cup?
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Were you at the after party that I was at
when the cup was there? And I don't ask, Oh, okay,
you don't remember that. I don't remember. I don't remember
seeing you. I did ask MESSI. I said what's in
the cup? And he gave me some choice words like,
you don't ask what's what liquid is in the cup?
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You just drink from the cup?
Speaker 9 (25:51):
You did, and I drank from it too, buddy, I
dragged from it that night somebody's got a picture, I
can't seem to find it. I drank from it in
the dressing room, which is highly unprofessional, also being the
journalists that we are. But it was a special all
time night, and you know I grew up a lifelong
Ranger fan. I never got to see them actually skate
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the cup around the garden because back in those days,
as a rights holder, you had to be positioned in
the dressing room five minutes left on a clock. So
all those years I never got to see skin. But
I did drink out of the cup that night. I
guess I would ask, do you remember seeing anybody that
night at the party?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Or you and me?
Speaker 6 (26:33):
You and mess chilling?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Ye, the hardest party winning team ever was who.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
Capitals gave it a run within Oh boy, I'm not
sure anyone enjoyed that stilly cup more than Alex Ovechkin.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Washington had a really good time and listen to cup
right now for everything.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
I can tell this inside the elbow room or outside
the elbow room. Headed to the Atlantic Ocean as we speak,
so they'll have a good time in South Florida too.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It's headed to the Atlantic Ocean.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Well, it's in the elbow room right now, which is
right on the ocean there.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Oh okay, Oh boy man overboard ruh, Save travels leaves
great to talk to you about him.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Always a pleasure bound.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
That's Steve Levy. He's a dynasty thirty thirty years. He's
been covering the Stanley Cup final. I don't remember seeing
him at the bar after the Rangers won the Cup.
I'm guessing he would be there. Levy's all bar. I mean,
he's a Hall of Famer. He's a Hall of Famer. Okay,
(27:36):
A couple of phone calls in here. How about Shane
and Portland leads this off? Good morning Shane, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 10 (27:43):
Hey, good morning guys, First time, long time five six
a robust. I wanted to say, you guys mentioned the
Steelers of the seventies, but what about the Steelers from
one to twenty ten? You got five a see championships,
two Super Bowl wins, another Super Bowl loss to the
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Packers in twenty ten. For the most part, the same
corps went through a different coaching staff. But for the
most part, Dick Lebau was there, and you know, I
think that was definitely on the verge of being a dynasty,
if not an actual dynasty.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Once again, it's the definition. And also it seems to
go from sport to sport of what is a dynasty
three and five years, three and six years? What if
you did four in ten years? I want sustain greatness.
I think you have to be a contender in the
years that you don't win. You know, the Giants didn't
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make the playoffs in the other years that they didn't
win the World Series. That takes away a little bit
of the dynasty part of that. But thanks for the
phone call. Shane John in Illinois. Hi, John, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Dan, thanks for the call.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I'm five ten.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
I wanted to talk about the dynasty as well.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
I would say the Blackhawks would.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Be the latest NHL dynasty. They were in and out
and they were they went pretty deep when the years
they didn't win the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 11 (29:07):
And when it comes to like baseball, I would.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Say the Yankees of the late nineties and.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
Like you guys were talking about earlier with college I
would say Alabama and maybe even Clemson was definitely a dynasty.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, I mean, certainly the Yankees when they were winning
with the Core four. Absolutely, Uh, Dustin in Alabama high dustin.
What's on your mind morning, guys, more than.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Headed in.
Speaker 11 (29:31):
Yeah, dynasties easily, hands down. Nick Saban seven National champions Ship,
six of Alabama.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
Uh you look up his stats.
Speaker 11 (29:40):
It's they're just insane to think about, like eleven SEC
championships and on and on and on.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
World Todd All right, thank you, Yeah, I was waiting
for it. I was waiting for it. The punctuation. I
wish we all had a.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Like, okay, conversation over move like role tide is yeah, yeah,
like are you just talking? And then like okay, another
more to say roll tide. Everybody goes there're separate ways.
That's Michael in Chicago. Hi, Michael, how you doing good.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
I got three dynasties for you.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
The Yankees of the twenties.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Don't you think they were dynasty?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah. I mean we're looking at modern day
we're modern day dynasties because it's not like the Yankees
in the twenties or the Celtics in the sixties UCLA basketball.
You know, times have changed, so we're looking at what
is a dynasty now as opposed to we know that
those are dynasties. And thanks for the phone call. Yes,
(30:42):
the Yankees were dominated, the Celtics dominated, UCLA basketball dominated,
But we're talking about the modern era of sports.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Yes, I think sort of back to the forty nine
ers quickly, you could take say fifteen year period and
include it all as the same dynasty. I think if
you're connecting Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Steve Young, they're all
sort of in that one big era.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
You have.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Five super Bowls in fifteen fourteen, fifteen years, that feels
like a pretty solid dynasty. Yeah, that's a long run
of being very good.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's a hybrid dynasty, like some of it's a dynasty
and then part of it is just sort of attack.
You know, you build an addition to your house, the
house itself, that's the dynasty, and then you have a
guest house for your parents. Yeah poem.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Alabama, going back to that caller, six titles in eleven years.
Every single season in that eleven year span, at some
point they were the number one team in the country.
And what defines them as a dynasty is it was
more surprising than when they were out of the National
Title Game than when they were in it.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Roll tide. Yeah, we'll take a break quite of the day.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Up next, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Wapp Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
The play of the day.
Speaker 10 (32:13):
Who was liken it?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Play?
Speaker 10 (32:16):
This is the play on the day.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Check this out?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Who shark tries to cut in? Gave it away at
the Panthers line, the ostrain it back you the way up.
Speaker 9 (32:24):
The right side at to the osterena, to the circle,
and the ostenda hands it back Hi slot.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
K chuck, Suddy's gone.
Speaker 9 (32:31):
Matthew get shuck, let it rip from the high slot
and the Panthers halitoon.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Nothing laid. That's courtesy of the Panthers Radio network. Matthew
could chuck. He was all banged up after the Four Nations.
He didn't play, and then all of a sudden he
comes back. He's a hockey player. He scored. Panthers win.
They're second straight Cups. So they joined back to backers
the Penguins in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Tampa Bay twenty twenty,
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Matt in Colorado, Hey Matt, how's it going? Hey?
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Five ten?
Speaker 6 (33:32):
First time?
Speaker 8 (33:33):
Long time? I like to shout out Babo and Hunter.
And how about the double a DC Almost a dynasty Club?
Not quite there?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Okay? Do you do you have any have any suggestions,
any nominees? That's that's no, But thank you, thank you
for giving us the title there very fritzy like that.
He gave us the almost a dynasty Club. So the
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Hall of Very Good almost a dynasty almusty almosty Ben?
And Milwaukee, Hi Ben, what's on your mind?
Speaker 8 (34:16):
Hey? Good morning, Danette, five ten, one eighty eight and
this morning down thirty seven pounds?
Speaker 2 (34:22):
All right, congratulations.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
I'm a Chicagoan. So the first dynasty you didn't mention
is the nineteen eighty five pairs.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Of course, yes, the one year dynasty.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
Yes. And when you're talking about dynasty and dynastic players,
I think you have to split them split them because
Michael Jordan was a dynastic player and he brought them
a dynasty. The San Francisco forty nine Ers are a
dynastic club, and that they could have Joe Mantana, Steve
Young A brock Purty there. They know what it takes
to win something. The Jets don't know how they're doing
(34:55):
a lot of.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
All right, A little shot there from Ben Milwaukee. Thank you.
Ben Paulie is branching out into other fields with dynasties. Here,
what are your suggestions?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
So let's say, in other sports, other fields, how about acting?
What would be the acting dynasty?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Is Tom Cruise a dynasty?
Speaker 8 (35:13):
Well?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
I was thinking, how about Meryl Streep? I looked up
Starting in nineteen seventy nine for The Deer Hunter was
her first nomination, and a year later she won Best
Supporting Actress for a Creamer Versus Screamer. She has been
nominated for an Academy Award. I have her twenty one
nominations in thirty nine years.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
How many times did she win? Three? See, we would
have a problem with that in other sports.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
But three for twenty one from the field in basketball? Bad, acting, good?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Okay, just throwing it out there.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
She's never gone more than four years without being nominated
for an Academy Award.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Okay, I think that's it all right.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
How about Tom Hanks's.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Run, Tom Hanks, that was the Dynasty. I think so
pretty good run. Yeah, seton.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
It's a little acting and music things art forms like
that are a little college football ish to me in that. Uh,
it really is just comes down to well, people said,
so you are I know, you have to win games
in football, but they do the whole waiting thing and
it's like, yeah, but that's not really a good win,
so that doesn't count as a blah blah blah. And
(36:18):
acting is very much it's all subjective. There's no real contest.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
If you started the playoffs and then people just voted,
and then that's kind of like what you have with
the Academy Awards. There's no real competition against one another.
It's just people voting, and it's like, oh man, I
love Meryl. Very subjective, very yeah. It's like you know
when shows win the Sports Emmy, we politics. Yeah, it's
all politics. Yeah, are we a dynasty?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Oh for five or oh for six?
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Oh for six? I think we're oh for six. But
We've been nominated six times in what seven years? So
where are we Bridesmaids? Yeah? Probably, it's a good movie.
Are we the Buffalo Bills accurate? Yeah? Probably so. I
think the Buffalo Bills had more fun when they were
losing than we've had, Yes, Todd, But the Bill's.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Only lost to one team. We've lost to like four
or five different shows each year, So I don't know
where you want to put that in the comparison.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
The Bills lost super Bowls to other teams.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
Right, But any given year you lose to one team,
we lose in a category, So we don't know if
we finished second.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
They lost to different teams, they didn't lose to the same.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
Said, I'm just started about the comparison between losing a
bunch of times.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
If we finished second every year of those six, would
you want to know?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I would rather know that we finished second than last.
Would you like me to find out?
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Well?
Speaker 5 (37:47):
But even still, though, if you finished fifth out of
a gajillion shows, that's top five, I know, but I
want to I want to know if we're right there.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I think that's going to bother you more if you
finish second.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
To vote, Okay, let's let's go. Let's vote. If we
would like to find out if we finished runner up
at any point in these six years, Todd, I would
like to know, Satan, No, Marvin, I know you so, No, Paul,
can I split the vote at the end. Yeah, I'd
like to know. I'm gonna say that I don't want
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to know. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. I like
to mine there. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep. I know
that that would know that that would hang with me. Yeah,
So don't find out, Paul, and it would.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Have just rained down fury upon whoever that other show was.
We would spend the next three years just now.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
No, I can't do just I can't. If we go
out and we don't win a sports emmy, I will
hold my head high that we we did something that
we we against all odds. I'm here my speech. Have
you ready today today? To nobody thought we could do this?
(39:08):
When we're in my attic, Todd refuses to go get
coffee for everybody.
Speaker 7 (39:13):
What throughout the garbage?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
How can I just let you walk away when you
do a spun, let you leave without a trace. Yeah,
it's standing here, taking every breath. Yeah, maybe I would
just do that I would give a speech and just
you know, uh, read from a song. It's a chance
you gotta take. You're really the only one who knows
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me at all. Take a look at this guy on
the other side of the glass. It's just an empty space.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
So close to singing right now.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
I know.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
No, I'm so close to gonging you. We're not going
to win.
Speaker 11 (39:55):
Take a look.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
No, but but that's okay. It's okay. It is because
I don't feel like we lost empty. We just didn't win.
It's a difference what time.
Speaker 7 (40:09):
But if Paul found out that over the several years
that we lost, we came in the last or second
to last, we wouldn't get that excited feeling and then
have that big disappointment as.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Opposed to I don't want to know, Todd, Todd, I
don't want to know. I don't want to know. Either way.
It's it's if we finished fifth or we finished second.
I don't want to know. We didn't finish first. That's
all that matters. Unlike you, I played to win the game.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
But in sports, they're like, okay, we were first runner up,
we lost the title game.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Nobody is ever first runner up. They don't have T shirts.
They don't make up T shirts to say first runner up.
They should do gold, silver, bronze. Really at the Sports Emmys, Yeah, well,
what do you get for silver and bronze? Like it
is your Emmy? You get it over and a bronze Emmy.
Speaker 7 (40:55):
What Todd Harry Sithe once said, of all the losers,
you were the best in that group when you finished.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Second one hour. In the books, the dynasty, that is
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felt like it was a little closer than what it
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was because you had a couple of overtime games. It
started out like this could be great, this will be epic.
You're going to get the best player in this sport,
maybe the second or third best player in the sport
going against the Panthers, a great team, and it never materialized.
And now we get back to back Cups and of
course now we have to talk about what is a dynasty,
(02:28):
which we'll talk about here in a moment, and it
might vary from sport to sport. What is a dynasty?
If you're the Patriots, in your dynasty, it was kind
of spread out, but it was dynastic. And then you
look at the Golden State Warriors a little bit spread out.
It used to be your dynasty was you win three
in a row, four in a row. Go back to
(02:50):
the Celtics in the sixties. They were winning every single year.
But the dynasty, I think the maybe the sport has
different definition definitions, So we'll explore that coming up. All right,
poll question for the first down of the program is
going to be what Stephen.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Well, I think we could kick around the dynasty topic
a little bit. Okay, I would probably define a dynasty as, say,
three titles in somewhere between five to ten years. It
doesn't have to be three in a row, all right,
but if you're able to get three within that stretch,
(03:28):
I can't be longer than ten years. I think that
that would qualify you as sustained period of excellence.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Okay, I don't think this team was ever mentioned as
having a dynasty. This team won three titles in five years.
The San Francisco Giants every other year won titles. That's
a dynasty, is it? Or is it just a run?
I don't know, a good run or is it dynasty?
(04:01):
But then if you don't make the playoffs, I don't
think they made the playoffs in the other years. Can
you be a dynasty if you win, don't make the playoffs, win,
don't make the playoffs win, Yes, pulling.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
That's exactly right, that's the team. I was going to
bring up twenty ten World Series, miss A playoffs, twelve
World Series, miss A playoffs, fourteen Worlds. That feels dynasty
ish though ish three or five? Like Seaton said, that's ish.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
How that's feel super dynasty. But I don't think anybody
gave them credit as having The Giants got a dynasty.
It was they're really good in even number of years,
and then they didn't make the playoffs. I think you
got to make the playoffs. I think you got to
make the playoffs the years that you don't, I don't
know we're groaning.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
We're groaning.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay. I'm I'm a purest and you know I'm old school.
I'm a snob when it comes to my dynasties here, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And I think those Giants teams had three different lineups.
It wasn't like the same group of guys won those
World Series t same manager though, hall of famer yeah,
Chris Boch yes, uh. And they had Buster Posey right
and Madison Bumgardner. Other than that, Tim Litz. Tim was
(05:18):
he there.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
For all of those? I got to check all very good?
You know, I don't think so. Yes, Tom.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
To me, the word dynasty has got to have a
very high bar to it, besides just you know, making
the playoffs. And I think you've got to win three
in a row, and you got to get there three
in five years. I wouldn't go much past five years.
I think you've got to win three and four. I'll
wink at the winning three and five years to use
the word dynasty.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
San Francisco Giants, did they have a dynasty in your opinion.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
I'm gonna say it doesn't feel dynasty.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You just said three and because it's baseball, Wait, just
you just said three and five years.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
I reluctantly for the Giants.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I don't know, so it's one of those things he
got even mind. Yeah, this is this is why I like,
we've been talking about this whole morning long.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
I understand.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
But it's also like the Hall of Fame when you
hear it. But sometimes that's part of it too.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
You just spend three in five years.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Right, But that's not a strict definition for me. This
is what I'm thinking. It should be something in the
neighborhood of winning three out of four years. But sometimes
the last piece of the puzzle is does that ring?
Does that ring true to you when you hear that
team or that.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Just contradicted yourself a little bit? Yeah know a lot,
Yes it fit.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I don't know anything about hockey, but if you just
look back sort of over the last say ten years,
it looks like on paper and if you're a hockey fan,
don't hold me to this, Okay, I understand I might
be wrong. It feels like they've slowly been building over
the last say like ten years, from a team that
sort of struggled into something great into a powerhouse that
(06:52):
they are now. Those feel all like dynasty building type moves.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Okay, Tampa Bay Lightning did they have a dynasty? The
Tampa Bay Lightning did they have a dynasty? Because if
if Florida has one, then Tampa Bay had one. I
think the state of Florida has a dynasty going on
when it comes to hockey. But yeah, once again, it's
tricky with the definition of that, and we do get
(07:20):
caught up on is that a dynasty or not a dynasty?
You know, you'll know it if I if I hear it,
then I'm going to react to it. Yes or no,
it's a dynasty. Okay, I think dynasties come in all
shapes and sizes.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yes, Marvin for Fritzi, would you consider the eighty Celtics
a dynasty? They won titles in eighty one, eighty four,
and eighty six. I think I would, well, wait a minute,
what's the difference.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
And for some reason San Francisco giants to me just
to hear it both the Celtics. Yes, it's a total
bias of the East called whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But like giants nasts because it's not the eighties when
you would know everybody's name and the start.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
If you want to talk about you know, Sidney Wicks
and Jojo White and have the chick and Cowans and everything.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I'm all in, okay, Yeah, yes, the Celtics can't be
because they shared titles during that run and that would
get rid of it. The Lightning won two Stanley Cups
in a row. They could have won three, which would
have cemented them as dynasty. They lost it. Here's a
couple of dynasties. The New England Patriots, starting at one,
they won three out of four Super Bowls, which enters
(08:29):
you into dynasty category. They went nine years without winning
a Super Bowl, but they were always in the AFC
title gum almost always in it. Then they won three
in five years, so they had both two dynasties and
a run in between it. How about this one, this
is pure dynasty. Golden State Warriors. They starting in twenty fourteen,
(08:50):
they were in five straight NBA finals and won three
of them. That means a sport ran through them for
five years.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
It's fair to say, Okay, was Lebron James a dynasty?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
No, he went to the NBA finals? How many years?
With nine and ten years? Something crazy? You went eighth
street eight straight NBA finals, Like that's an individual dynasty,
isn't it no matter where he went? His team went
to the NBA finals. So I don't like, can you
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have a singular dynasty, you know, not in a sport
like uh, you know, tennis or golf. But I'm talking
about Lebron doing that eight consecutive years. Yes, Tom, you.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Could be an all time great. I don't think you
could be a person dynasty. I think dynasty to me
is a group or a team make a dynasty. You
could have a dynastic career, but you can't be a dynasty.
To me, that doesn't seem like.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, but I don't even know what it means to
you anymore since you screwed up the San Francisco Giants. Okay,
but I don't think you can call.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
A person a dynasty like a great fighter who went
forty two and oh with thirty three knocks. Dynasty just
sounds strange language wise to call an individual a dynasty.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Was Tiger Woods a dynasty?
Speaker 7 (10:06):
He's an all time great. I wouldn't call any person
a dynasty. I don't care how amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Okay, but we're talking about sustained winning and the common
ground or you know, common denominator was Lebron James and
all of that. Yes, point, I.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Agree with you on this one. I think you've kind
of stumbled upon an individual dynasty and it's a new
thing because the sport ran through Lebron James for a
decade wherever he was, that's where the final was Tiger
Woods for ten to twelve years. The sport ran through him,
and so it is a different type of dyasye.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
But you're right, I need to say the same thing
about the Patriots. We could split it into two if
you just want to do you know, wins, but they dynasties.
They you know, even when they were down, they still
that first dynasty air quotes is five super Bowl appearances
in ten years.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I have no problem calling them a dynasty. Maybe they've
been a dynasty at two separate times book ended, Yeah,
I have no problem with that. It's that run of
whatever that was ten years where they didn't win a
super Bowl, but they still were in the conversation for
a super Bowl, like getting to the Stanley Cup final,
or getting to the NBA Finals, or getting to the
(11:18):
Super Bowl, Like can you include that in a dynasty
that if you don't win, but you still get to
the championship. Does that factor in? Does it factor in
what you do in the years that you don't win
the championship? Should it factor in that the Giants didn't
even make the playoffs? I think it should. Yeah, Marvin, what.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
About the eighties forty nine ers? So they won a
title in eighty one, then their last title was.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
In eighty nine. I don't think it's a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You don't think so four titles in what nine years?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It feels pretty dynasty issue. But then you also had
other really good teams back then. You had the Giants,
but that's that's what boys, but they were also kind
of on the cusp of you know, dynastic as well.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
But I think that's what makes their run even better
because you got to look at those teams that they
had to fight against to win those four Super Bowls.
Eighty six Giants, eighty seven Redskins, the Vikings were really
good during that time.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
The Bears, oh be sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I heard of them almost like the eighties Lakers, where
the Bears the eighty five Bears a dynasty, A onesie,
A onesie maybe the greatest one off of all time.
We're going to dine out on this for decades. Yes, Seaton, the.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
NFL might be the toughest sport to have a dynasty, okay,
because you have I know, all sports focus on parody,
but they seem NFL seems to take it most serious.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Salary cap Do you have short careers in.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
The NFL, which I think impacts a dynasty because if
you have a lot of turnover, one of the things
about a dynasty to me is a consistent group of players. Maybe,
but in the NFL you have so much turnover it's
tough to say year to year this is the same team.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Maybe we should have started with the Webster Dictionary definition
of dynasty.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yes, conveniently, I have that up on my screen. A
series of rulers or leaders who are all from the
same family, or a period when a country is ruled
by a.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Series of rulers or leaders. Okay, so it comes from
you know.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That kind of thing we've co opted in sports, like
Mount Rushmore used to be a place you'd visit in
South Dakota. Now it's sports radio fodder.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yes, hey, you know the flip side of that too.
I would say probably the easiest sport to have a
dynasty would be college football. Yes, you get the right
coach and a good run of players, you could win.
You could rattle off three out of four, you know,
five whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And it used to be that those players were locked
in for at least three years, if not four years,
you know, when there was no transfer portal. Now it's
a little bit tougher now to you know, you're reloading
every single year. Yes, Tom, is there a name.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Or should there be a name for the anti dynasty?
Like the Bills losing four straight Super Bowls? The Broncos
losing three out of four? You got so far and
you accomplished so much in a short window, but you
just didn't win the championship. Should there be a term
for that?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Or you're just a loser? You got all the way
to the end only.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
To not to make it all the way?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I think we probably.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Don't need a word or a term. Do you have
a word? You don't, But I'd like.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
To think of what, Well, there are a lot of
teams that come close over a short period of time,
and they just come up to.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Maybe come up with the name, and then, you know,
then we could kind of complete the whole thought there.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Yeah, I kind of went to horse before the cart thing.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yes, what did you send me here? Definition of a dynasty?
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yeah, I was looking at dynasty to see you know
you were talking about you can call an athlete a dynasty,
but to me that sounds odd and just AI take
it for what it's worth, defines it as an athlete
can be considered a dynasty. In sports, a dynasty typically
refers to a team or individual, as you said, that
dominates their sport for an extended period, achieving sustained success
and multiple championships.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So we're good. No, no, we're good. So you may
have something there, Thank you, Tom. Steve Levey's going to
join us, join us from Sunrise, Florida. What about a dynasty?
Thirty years covering hockey? Is that a dynasty?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Maybe?
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Yeah, I'll give him a dynasty.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It feels like your four cents.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
It's a broadcasting dynasty.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Thirty years in a row covering the Stanley Cup final.
He believes a dynasty.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
That's the only individual I would give that to.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Is Chrismerman a dynasty, Bob Constace a dynasty?
Speaker 7 (15:36):
And Dan Patrick.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
No, I didn't include myself. You're just trying to suck.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Up to me. I'm considered I gong he's coming any time.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I almost gonged you for your Giants, almost, but I'm
trying not to go to the world too often.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Yes, those those teams Todd was just referring to called bridesmaids.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yes, yeah, run like that, yeah, yes, point or chynasty
because they're crying.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I'm not going to give you a bloop on that one. Right, No,
I'm not going to That doesn't help I retract it,
all right, let me take a break. Steve Levy a
walking dynasty, talking dynasty. We'll join us. Coming up next,
Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
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Speaker 2 (16:38):
Got a lot of phone calls lined up. People want
to talk about dynasties. What is your definition? Marvin just
brought up something during the commercial break that I hadn't
thought of. And when the Giants won three in five
years San Francisco Giants, had Barry Bonds been on that team,
we might have looked at them as a dynasty, or
we wouldn't have any doubt about them being a dynasty.
(17:00):
But because he wasn't. You're kind of like, well, man,
they kind of pieced together a lineup all three times
they won the World Series. The common denominator was your
manager for the most part. But if Bonds was on there,
then we would be like all those Bonds led Giants
teams that won three World Series titles.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yes, Paul, yeah, star power. Like Seaton said, football usually
get broken up. But those Steeler teams four titles in
six years in the seventies, it felt like the starting
lineup didn't change very much if at all the stars
Joe Green and Mel Blunton, you can go on and on.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, you had the same quarterback, you had same coach,
backfield as well your wide receivers. With the Steelers, just
about everybody on that team felt like became a Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
We love winners.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You go back to those Buffalo Bill teams or the
Vikings that lost four Super Bowls, and you're like, I
don't think so. Like they got to it's amazing you
get to the Super Bowl. Only one team wins, but
you got to the Super Bowl and the Bills went
four consecutive years. Those kinds are Hall of famers. Granted
they didn't win, but I have to factor that in.
(18:08):
I have to factor that in. You got to these titles.
Steve Levy, he works for the Mothership. He's been there
covering the Stanley Cup Final for over thirty years. He
is a dynasty. He's done it for thirty According to Fritzy,
Steve Levy is a dynasty. You have covered the Stanley
Cup Final every year since nineteen ninety four. Congratulations, Steve DP.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Thank you. It's quite honored.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
I appreciate.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Okay, the Panthers already a dynasty, you know, I.
Speaker 9 (18:38):
Mean the definition is crazy. Just winning two in a
row is not dynasty level for me. Dan, I know,
it's three consecutive trips. I think you have to get
to four. In hockey, I think the Islanders, I think
the Oilers of the eighties, the Canadians.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
I really think like four is.
Speaker 9 (18:59):
A magic for the dynasty. And now that was not
salary cap era, so I get that. But it is remarkable.
And they're doing it in South Florida two, which is
something even more special.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
But I wonder I got even more.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I wonder about that with the state of Florida, with
Tampa Bay and Florida, the trickle down effect on the
youth programs there. It's one thing to be hey, weren't anomaly.
We're a great hockey team in the sun you know,
in the Sunshine State, you know, Tampa Bay. But is
this how much of an effect is this having on
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younger players playing this sport the way they do in Canada.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Absolutely it's a factor.
Speaker 9 (19:37):
They're they're building rinks left and right, and the fan
bases are have really become tremendous. You know, it's not
that long ago the Panthers dead and they were tarping
the top of the arena and now it's that's one
of the bigger rinks I think in the NHL, probably
close to twenty thousand. And that place is full and
they're in it. And you know where the Panthers plays
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not exactly a metropolitan area out in Sunrise. There's not
a lot going on out there, but the organization is.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Very well run.
Speaker 9 (20:08):
Dan They've built they built a practice facility in the
Los Solas area, which is a hot spot. Now I
know the guys who will live in the area and
they take golf carts to practice. I mean, there are
a lot of attractive reasons to want to be a
Florida Panther and attract free agents. The tax issue is
certainly a benefit, but I think that's going to help
keep some guys around too. They win, they treat the
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players right, really first class ownership.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
In both Tampa and for the Florida.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Pantas, it felt like we were going to get a
tight seven game series, It was gonna be dramatic, and
then all of a sudden, something changed and you saw
total domination. What was that one change?
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Dan?
Speaker 9 (20:48):
This was the sweepiest, if you will, the sweepiest six
game series in history, you know, like I mean, this
should have been a four game sweep, and watching each
individual game, it felt like a total sweep. And it's
really easy to criticize Edmonton, but you can't lose sight
of just how great Florida was. They made the Panthers
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made Connor McDavid and Leon dry Side of look pedestrian.
They looked like two players who were individually great. But
if you removed them, and I was telling this to people,
if you took McDavid and Drysidle the way the remaining
ten forwards for the Oilers, I'm not sure I would
have taken one of them, over any of the Florida
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BAMF forwards. I mean the team, the Florida Panthers team
was dominant. The Oilers still probably have the two best
players on the ice, but the Panthers as a team
and certainly in goal, that was a big difficence. The
other thing that jumps out Dan is the dominance in
the first period, and I can't explain it. The last
four games of the period of the series, Florida outscored
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Edmondson nine to nothing.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
The Oilers gave up at least two goals and they
couldn't get out of the first period scoreless or even
tied at one. It was bizarre.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
And the amazing one was the three upping game that
Edmondon actually came back and won that they had no
business and that's a miracle comeback. That's all time, that's
going back to nineteen nineteen. And really that gets forgotten now.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Because the Oilers lost that series.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Okay, if you were running the Edmonton Oilers, you got
a big decision with Connor McDavid. Maybe he has a
big decision. I think he's got one year left. He's
what twenty eight years of age. Widely recognized as the
greatest player in hockey, most talented we've maybe ever seen,
and he doesn't have anything to show for it. Is
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it going to be him wanting to leave or the
Oilers wanting to regroup and try to make this a
full team.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
No, they would never let him leave.
Speaker 9 (22:53):
I mean, the franchise is on the map really right
now because of Connor McDavid.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
I couldn't even imagine that franchise.
Speaker 9 (23:01):
If he left, that will be his decision, and then
you play that game, right if the Oilers.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Games they did this in the eighties, They did this
once before with it.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
But they had a lot more depth. I mean, obviously
it was Gretzky, but they had a lot more depth.
They got probably seven or eight Hall of Famers from
that team. And right now it's you know, it's Tri Suntle,
you know, and and Connorm.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
But is he gonna want to go Steve? They they're
gonna want to keep him. Yeah, But does he say
I've gone as far as I can go?
Speaker 6 (23:30):
I mean that's the question.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
He's changed the agents recently, Dan, I don't know what
that means, but that's probably a factor in all of this.
I think he's a loyal guy. He's made Edmondson his home.
I think he loves it there with his family. You know,
I don't know that, and we're gonna find out soon.
Like we could have this answer in two weeks. And
that's the issue. If the Oilers feel like, hey, we're
not gonna be able to sign this guy no matter
(23:51):
how many how much money we throw at him. They
can't let him walk to free agency. You can't get
nothing in return for the guy. So that's the But
they've got a lot of holes, Dan, they don't have
enough dogs in the fight. They need a real number
one goaltender. I mean that was one of the areas
Florida out classed him in.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
And listen, I.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
Didn't think Edmondon was gonna win any of the four rounds,
and really any of the first three I had. I
had him losing all three first round of their first rounds,
and then I finally went over and picked him in
the the final in seven. I looked like a total ladiot.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
As usual grade this season for the NHL.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
Off the charts great and I don't care about the
television ratings.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
The finals wasn't our year at the final that's how
this works. But off the charts.
Speaker 9 (24:40):
Four nations out of control, great, Alex Ovechkin unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Even the trade deadline was great. Miko Ranton in a.
Speaker 9 (24:50):
Real superstar gets moved twice during the regular season that
never happens.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
And really the playoffs were terrific. And we're gonna have
an off season.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
You know, it's never gonna be the NFL off season,
but the NHL off season with major names out there,
Mitch Martor in Toronto and a ton of movement and
coaches going in and out. Uh, it's the NHL has
really evolved and elevated itself, I think, and it's fascinating
to watch what's.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Going on now.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Your first year covering the Stanley Cup Final, the Rangers
win the Cup?
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Were you at the after party that I was at
when the cup was there? And I don't ask, Oh, okay,
you don't remember that. I don't remember. I don't remember
seeing you. I did ask MESSI. I said what's in
the cup? And he gave me some choice words like,
you don't ask what's what liquid is in the cup?
(25:49):
You just drink from the cup?
Speaker 9 (25:51):
You did, and I drank from it too, buddy, I
dragged from it that night somebody's got a picture, I
can't seem to find it. I drank from it in
the dressing room, which is highly unprofessional, also being the
journalists that we are. But it was a special all
time night, and you know I grew up a lifelong
Ranger fan. I never got to see them actually skate
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the cup around the garden because back in those days,
as a rights holder, you had to be positioned in
the dressing room five minutes left on a clock. So
all those years I never got to see skin. But
I did drink out of the cup that night. I
guess I would ask, do you remember seeing anybody that
night at the party?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Or you and me?
Speaker 6 (26:33):
You and mess chilling?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Ye, the hardest party winning team ever was who.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
Capitals gave it a run within Oh boy, I'm not
sure anyone enjoyed that stilly cup more than Alex Ovechkin.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Washington had a really good time and listen to cup
right now for everything.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
I can tell this inside the elbow room or outside
the elbow room. Headed to the Atlantic Ocean as we speak,
so they'll have a good time in South Florida too.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It's headed to the Atlantic Ocean.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Well, it's in the elbow room right now, which is
right on the ocean there.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Oh okay, Oh boy man overboard ruh, Save travels leaves
great to talk to you about him.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Always a pleasure bound.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
That's Steve Levy. He's a dynasty thirty thirty years. He's
been covering the Stanley Cup final. I don't remember seeing
him at the bar after the Rangers won the Cup.
I'm guessing he would be there. Levy's all bar. I mean,
he's a Hall of Famer. He's a Hall of Famer. Okay,
(27:36):
A couple of phone calls in here. How about Shane
and Portland leads this off? Good morning Shane, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 10 (27:43):
Hey, good morning guys, First time, long time five six
a robust. I wanted to say, you guys mentioned the
Steelers of the seventies, but what about the Steelers from
one to twenty ten? You got five a see championships,
two Super Bowl wins, another Super Bowl loss to the
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Packers in twenty ten. For the most part, the same
corps went through a different coaching staff. But for the
most part, Dick Lebau was there, and you know, I
think that was definitely on the verge of being a dynasty,
if not an actual dynasty.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Once again, it's the definition. And also it seems to
go from sport to sport of what is a dynasty
three and five years, three and six years? What if
you did four in ten years? I want sustain greatness.
I think you have to be a contender in the
years that you don't win. You know, the Giants didn't
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make the playoffs in the other years that they didn't
win the World Series. That takes away a little bit
of the dynasty part of that. But thanks for the
phone call. Shane John in Illinois. Hi, John, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Dan, thanks for the call.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I'm five ten.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
I wanted to talk about the dynasty as well.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
I would say the Blackhawks would.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Be the latest NHL dynasty. They were in and out
and they were they went pretty deep when the years
they didn't win the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 11 (29:07):
And when it comes to like baseball, I would.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Say the Yankees of the late nineties and.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
Like you guys were talking about earlier with college I
would say Alabama and maybe even Clemson was definitely a dynasty.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, I mean, certainly the Yankees when they were winning
with the Core four. Absolutely, Uh, Dustin in Alabama high dustin.
What's on your mind morning, guys, more than.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Headed in.
Speaker 11 (29:31):
Yeah, dynasties easily, hands down. Nick Saban seven National champions Ship,
six of Alabama.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
Uh you look up his stats.
Speaker 11 (29:40):
It's they're just insane to think about, like eleven SEC
championships and on and on and on.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
World Todd All right, thank you, Yeah, I was waiting
for it. I was waiting for it. The punctuation. I
wish we all had a.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Like, okay, conversation over move like role tide is yeah, yeah,
like are you just talking? And then like okay, another
more to say roll tide. Everybody goes there're separate ways.
That's Michael in Chicago. Hi, Michael, how you doing good.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
I got three dynasties for you.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
The Yankees of the twenties.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Don't you think they were dynasty?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah. I mean we're looking at modern day
we're modern day dynasties because it's not like the Yankees
in the twenties or the Celtics in the sixties UCLA basketball.
You know, times have changed, so we're looking at what
is a dynasty now as opposed to we know that
those are dynasties. And thanks for the phone call. Yes,
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the Yankees were dominated, the Celtics dominated, UCLA basketball dominated,
But we're talking about the modern era of sports.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Yes, I think sort of back to the forty nine
ers quickly, you could take say fifteen year period and
include it all as the same dynasty. I think if
you're connecting Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Steve Young, they're all
sort of in that one big era.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
You have.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Five super Bowls in fifteen fourteen, fifteen years, that feels
like a pretty solid dynasty. Yeah, that's a long run
of being very good.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's a hybrid dynasty, like some of it's a dynasty
and then part of it is just sort of attack.
You know, you build an addition to your house, the
house itself, that's the dynasty, and then you have a
guest house for your parents. Yeah poem.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Alabama, going back to that caller, six titles in eleven years.
Every single season in that eleven year span, at some
point they were the number one team in the country.
And what defines them as a dynasty is it was
more surprising than when they were out of the National
Title Game than when they were in it.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Roll tide. Yeah, we'll take a break quite of the day.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Up next, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
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Speaker 4 (32:08):
Wapp Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
The play of the day.
Speaker 10 (32:13):
Who was liken it?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Play?
Speaker 10 (32:16):
This is the play on the day.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Check this out?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Who shark tries to cut in? Gave it away at
the Panthers line, the ostrain it back you the way up.
Speaker 9 (32:24):
The right side at to the osterena, to the circle,
and the ostenda hands it back Hi slot.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
K chuck, Suddy's gone.
Speaker 9 (32:31):
Matthew get shuck, let it rip from the high slot
and the Panthers halitoon.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Nothing laid. That's courtesy of the Panthers Radio network. Matthew
could chuck. He was all banged up after the Four Nations.
He didn't play, and then all of a sudden he
comes back. He's a hockey player. He scored. Panthers win.
They're second straight Cups. So they joined back to backers
the Penguins in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Tampa Bay twenty twenty,
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twenty two, twenty one, and now the Florida Panthers. I
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Matt in Colorado, Hey Matt, how's it going? Hey?
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Five ten?
Speaker 6 (33:32):
First time?
Speaker 8 (33:33):
Long time? I like to shout out Babo and Hunter.
And how about the double a DC Almost a dynasty Club?
Not quite there?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Okay? Do you do you have any have any suggestions,
any nominees? That's that's no, But thank you, thank you
for giving us the title there very fritzy like that.
He gave us the almost a dynasty Club. So the
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Hall of Very Good almost a dynasty almusty almosty Ben?
And Milwaukee, Hi Ben, what's on your mind?
Speaker 8 (34:16):
Hey? Good morning, Danette, five ten, one eighty eight and
this morning down thirty seven pounds?
Speaker 2 (34:22):
All right, congratulations.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
I'm a Chicagoan. So the first dynasty you didn't mention
is the nineteen eighty five pairs.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Of course, yes, the one year dynasty.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
Yes. And when you're talking about dynasty and dynastic players,
I think you have to split them split them because
Michael Jordan was a dynastic player and he brought them
a dynasty. The San Francisco forty nine Ers are a
dynastic club, and that they could have Joe Mantana, Steve
Young A brock Purty there. They know what it takes
to win something. The Jets don't know how they're doing
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a lot of.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
All right, A little shot there from Ben Milwaukee. Thank you.
Ben Paulie is branching out into other fields with dynasties. Here,
what are your suggestions?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
So let's say, in other sports, other fields, how about acting?
What would be the acting dynasty?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Is Tom Cruise a dynasty?
Speaker 8 (35:13):
Well?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
I was thinking, how about Meryl Streep? I looked up
Starting in nineteen seventy nine for The Deer Hunter was
her first nomination, and a year later she won Best
Supporting Actress for a Creamer Versus Screamer. She has been
nominated for an Academy Award. I have her twenty one
nominations in thirty nine years.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
How many times did she win? Three? See, we would
have a problem with that in other sports.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
But three for twenty one from the field in basketball? Bad, acting, good?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Okay, just throwing it out there.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
She's never gone more than four years without being nominated
for an Academy Award.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Okay, I think that's it all right.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
How about Tom Hanks's.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Run, Tom Hanks, that was the Dynasty. I think so
pretty good run. Yeah, seton.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
It's a little acting and music things art forms like
that are a little college football ish to me in that. Uh,
it really is just comes down to well, people said,
so you are I know, you have to win games
in football, but they do the whole waiting thing and
it's like, yeah, but that's not really a good win,
so that doesn't count as a blah blah blah. And
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acting is very much it's all subjective. There's no real contest.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
If you started the playoffs and then people just voted,
and then that's kind of like what you have with
the Academy Awards. There's no real competition against one another.
It's just people voting, and it's like, oh man, I
love Meryl. Very subjective, very yeah. It's like you know
when shows win the Sports Emmy, we politics. Yeah, it's
all politics. Yeah, are we a dynasty?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Oh for five or oh for six?
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Oh for six? I think we're oh for six. But
We've been nominated six times in what seven years? So
where are we Bridesmaids? Yeah? Probably, it's a good movie.
Are we the Buffalo Bills accurate? Yeah? Probably so. I
think the Buffalo Bills had more fun when they were
losing than we've had, Yes, Todd, But the Bill's.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Only lost to one team. We've lost to like four
or five different shows each year, So I don't know
where you want to put that in the comparison.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
The Bills lost super Bowls to other teams.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
Right, But any given year you lose to one team,
we lose in a category, So we don't know if
we finished second.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
They lost to different teams, they didn't lose to the same.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
Said, I'm just started about the comparison between losing a
bunch of times.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
If we finished second every year of those six, would
you want to know?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I would rather know that we finished second than last.
Would you like me to find out?
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Well?
Speaker 5 (37:47):
But even still, though, if you finished fifth out of
a gajillion shows, that's top five, I know, but I
want to I want to know if we're right there.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I think that's going to bother you more if you
finish second.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
To vote, Okay, let's let's go. Let's vote. If we
would like to find out if we finished runner up
at any point in these six years, Todd, I would
like to know, Satan, No, Marvin, I know you so, No, Paul,
can I split the vote at the end. Yeah, I'd
like to know. I'm gonna say that I don't want
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to know. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. I like
to mine there. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep. I know
that that would know that that would hang with me. Yeah,
So don't find out, Paul, and it would.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Have just rained down fury upon whoever that other show was.
We would spend the next three years just now.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
No, I can't do just I can't. If we go
out and we don't win a sports emmy, I will
hold my head high that we we did something that
we we against all odds. I'm here my speech. Have
you ready today today? To nobody thought we could do this?
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When we're in my attic, Todd refuses to go get
coffee for everybody.
Speaker 7 (39:13):
What throughout the garbage?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
How can I just let you walk away when you
do a spun, let you leave without a trace. Yeah,
it's standing here, taking every breath. Yeah, maybe I would
just do that I would give a speech and just
you know, uh, read from a song. It's a chance
you gotta take. You're really the only one who knows
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me at all. Take a look at this guy on
the other side of the glass. It's just an empty space.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
So close to singing right now.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
I know.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
No, I'm so close to gonging you. We're not going
to win.
Speaker 11 (39:55):
Take a look.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
No, but but that's okay. It's okay. It is because
I don't feel like we lost empty. We just didn't win.
It's a difference what time.
Speaker 7 (40:09):
But if Paul found out that over the several years
that we lost, we came in the last or second
to last, we wouldn't get that excited feeling and then
have that big disappointment as.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Opposed to I don't want to know, Todd, Todd, I
don't want to know. I don't want to know. Either way.
It's it's if we finished fifth or we finished second.
I don't want to know. We didn't finish first. That's
all that matters. Unlike you, I played to win the game.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
But in sports, they're like, okay, we were first runner up,
we lost the title game.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Nobody is ever first runner up. They don't have T shirts.
They don't make up T shirts to say first runner up.
They should do gold, silver, bronze. Really at the Sports Emmys, Yeah, well,
what do you get for silver and bronze? Like it
is your Emmy? You get it over and a bronze Emmy.
Speaker 7 (40:55):
What Todd Harry Sithe once said, of all the losers,
you were the best in that group when you finished.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
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