June 20, 2025 • 46 mins
2021 NBA Champ Jeff Teague shares a story of Steph dropping 40 points in China, and admits he has playoff PTSD from LeBron James. HOF broadcaster Jim Gray shines a spotlight on his new Hall of Excellence exhibit at the Fontainebleau in Las Vegas, and breaks down how he and Tom Brady opened the exhibit after 8 years of preparation. NBC News anchor Tom Llamas talks balancing fatherhood with a 24/7 news cycle, and relives covering Hurricane Katrina.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Let's bring in Jeff Tig, former champion with the Bunks.
He's the head coach of Pike High School in Indianapolis's
alma mater. A couple think an All Star in twenty fifteen,
former first round pick of the Hanks. Great podcast, by
the Way, five point twenty in the morning. So Jeff
Tig joins us on the program. What happened last night?
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Why did Indiana dominate Club five twenty? I should say.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Indiana played with a lot of energy. Like you said,
the bench was fantastic. They've been fantastic all series. But
they played with so much energy. You can tell that
they really wanted to get the win last night.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
But when you go to the bench, if you're a
coach and you know your bench is your strength or
one of your strength, can you go to the bench
too soon in a situation like that?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Uh? Yeah? But I think that's what makes Indiana a
great team, Like they can go to the e bench
early and they know they're gonna get some effective play. TJ.
Nash if we call him TJ McConnell and he plays
so well, I mean he comes off the bench with
so much energy, and he changed the dynamic of the
game every time he steps on the floor. So when
you know you had that bolt of energy coming off
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the bench, it's never too late to put him in.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
He gets paid to be annoying, doesn't he.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
What's it like when you face that annoying guy, that
hustle guy never quits high motor.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, you kinda he kind of pitts
you on your toes a little bit, Like you know,
he's gonna come in with that energy. You got to
protect the ball. So as soon as he checks in,
you like, here we go, he come to TASMANI and double,
He's gonna be all over the floor. He's gonna be everywhere.
And playing against him was annoying. But watching him play
and probably like his teammates, probably loved him for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Explain the defense with the Pacers. We talk about Okayc's defense,
but you're turning. You know, Shay had eight turnovers. Yeah,
I mean they that's not typical. So what happened last
night that kind of turned them into a turnover machine?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Indiana was flying around, they were on a string and
They're not known for being really a physical team throughout
the regular season, but this playoffs matchups they've been so
physical and attacking the ball, and they're making the shasy bodies.
I mean, nim Hart did a wonderful job last night
staying in front of him trying to make them make
tough shots. But every time he was spin or go
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behind his back, he will be a second defender there.
And they played a team defense last night. Miles Turner
was big in the paint. It was just an overall
great team effort.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And now the pressure on game in Game seven on okay,
shit right.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
All on?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Ok see. I mean they played really well at home,
we know that, but a couple of those shots missed
early in that game. They could get a little spooky.
I think the Pacers are playing with a lot of confidence.
They really don't have anything to lose. Everybody expects them
to lose on a game seven on the road, so
they're probably gonna play free. I can imagine Tyrese Haliburn
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having a big game. I'm actually taking the Pacers in
this game.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Okay, did you have the Pacers from the beginning, because
you know, oh you get okay, see okay.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, I had okay, see, but I told some of
the guys that on the podcast with me, if it
made it to a Game seven, I was gonna take
the Pacers just because I know the pressures that could
be on. In the game seven.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Playing through an injury. Halliburton played what twenty three minutes. Yeah,
because that kind of injury, you'd probably be missing games
during the regular season, but you can't sit down, go
back in, go sit down. Like it felt like Carlisle
is gonna go. I'll get as much as I can
for as long as I can. And I don't know
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if three days of rest how that impacts that kind
of injury, if at all.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Probably not. I mean, he probably need a couple of
weeks to get back healthy. But I just think that
that spirit, that toughness that he's playing through it, I
think and went throughout the whole team, and you can
see how they were playing. They were all connected. It
was like they were they had one goals to get
to that Game seven, and I think they kind of
carry that energy over to Game seven. I think the
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Pacers can take it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Jeff Cheeg, you won a championship with the Box in
twenty twenty one, head coach of Pike High School in
the Indianapolis, his alma mater, and his podcast Club five twenty.
You tell great stories. You're not afraid to tell great stories.
Give me the story that probably got the most reaction
after you told it on your podcast.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Probably the Jimmy Butler story. Jimmy Butler he had an episode,
I would say, during practice where he kind of went
off on everybody and he ended up playing us with
like some of the guys from the G League and
beating us and telling us about it, and I kind
of told the backstory to it all. And then he
got traded. So it was just a whole funny scenario.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Wait, so he's just he's taking names like he's he's
going at you guys and bringing in guy to prove
that he can. It doesn't matter who he has, he's
going to beat you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, he just wanted to He wanted to get paid
and basically he was he was looking to get that
extension and he didn't get the extension he wanted, so
he came in and he was trying to wreck shot
and he pointed out guys from the front office to
the coaching staff to players on the team and he
just went at everybody and he had a moment in
practice and he was he was killing and he was
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letting to be known.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Is he crazy or calculated?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Calculated? It's not crazy at all. But he's gonna get
what he wants and he's gonna go to whatever extreme
measures he need to to get what he wants.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You ever play against the guy who made you a
little nervous that he was kind of crazy. Wasn't all there?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Uh? Yeah, Reggie Evans? He scared me a little bit. Why,
I'm not gonna say he wasn't all there, but he
he was physical and it just seemed like he wanted
to smoke any time. So I had a college teammate
named James Johnson who plays for the Pacers and practice
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sometimes you would think he was all there. But he's
very intelligent, very locked in, but he can get he
can get going a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
What was your welcome to the NBA moment?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Welcome to the NBA. Uh, I can't even say his name. No,
Strona Staviachy bowed me in the nose for trying to
dunk on them. That was my welcome to the NBA.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And what did you do?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
He held the town to my nose, so no words,
you're exchanged.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Nah, Like he just he kind of apologized to me,
was like, hey, you're not gonna be able to dunk
in this league. Man, just help my you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Nothing I can really do what should like to guard
Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I told a story about that on the podcast. In
a preseason game. We went to China for a preseason
game when I was in Minnesota, and you know, it's
a preseason game. We're all having a good fun and
he's like, before the game, let's play serious. It's like
get a good run in the night, y'all. So we're like, okay,
and he ended up scoring forty something points on me
in front of thirty forty thousand people. I was so mad.
(07:18):
If I could have fought Steph Curtin, I would have
fault him. But now he's incredible.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
But when do you know, like, is there any indication
when somebody gets on one of those heaters and you
just know it doesn't matter what you do.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, with him, when he when he starts dancing and
doing all the SIMI and stuff, you know pretty much
him in trouble.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
And then the mouthpiece comes out right in front of you.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
You get the running around and Dramond Green get to
set in the legal screen.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Whoa, But you want Draymond on your team, right for sure.
But he's but he's a dirty player.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
No, I wouldn't call him dirty. I think he just
plays hard.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, you would, you'd call him dirty.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Everybody. Everybody got a little dirty. He's just been televised.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I would say, well, we do focus on him, but
it feels like whatever it takes, he's he's going to do.
But he he made himself into a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I mean he does all the little things.
He's a phenomenal defender, he can guard one through five,
great playmaker. But he's that guy you want on your team.
But you definitely hate playing against him.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But you're you're coaching high school now, and I'm curious
about this Steph Curry impact on high school basketball. How
how much do you coach or coach against that style
of basketball?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Uh, nobody can shoot like Steph Curry. So that's the
first problem.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, but they think they can.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, that's the that's the biggest problem. So everybody wants
to shoot threes. I'm not against taking threes if you're
open to shooting basketball. But uh, it's not even more
steph Curry. It's kind of like more James Harden that
you gotta face. Like the dribble dribble step back threes.
That's probably the hardest thing to control a little bit.
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But shooting threes, if you can shoot, I'll let you shoot.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
What was like when Harden would have get on a heater?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh, he was the hardest player to ever guard in
the NBA besides Dereck Rose for me, because you couldn't
touch him. He can get to the foul line at will.
He shoot that step back through, like I said, and man,
he was incredible when he was averaging like thirty five
thirty four points a game. There's nothing you could really
do with them.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
If Derek Rose doesn't get hurt.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, he's to me. If he doesn't get hurt, he's
a top five point guard of all time.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
What made him special.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
His speed, quickness, his strength, and then his ability to
make those floaters and tough shots. And then he was
fearless and he never got tired. Literally he I mean,
you know how tims for fifty minutes. It's only forty
eight in the game, but like he never got tired.
He was always ready. He never set out games, and
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he was always in attack mode.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You got a good Lebron story.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Lebron's my favorite player all time. So I've never beat
him in a playoff series, like, never won a game.
So I got like PTSD playing against a little bit.
But he's still my favorite player all the time. But
I got a lot of slack and a lot of
pushback from some guys because I pushed him into the
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crowd one time because we were losing. I was a
sore loser.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Wow, And.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, I got a couple of death threats. But we're
all good now.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Wait death threats.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, because they were winning the series. And I think
it might have been Game four and we're there, probably
like eight, and he was dribbling the ball and he
was kind of waving at the crowd, but we're at
home and the crowd was rooting for him, and I
just kind of life, nah, not here, and I pushed
him out of bounds. And you don't get on Twitter after.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That Lebron saying anything to you.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Nah. He just laughed. He kind of got up there
and wiped his shoulder off crowd went crazy again and
I got ejected.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
But he's your favorite player instead of Jordan.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Do you ask for a jersey from Lebron?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Not?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Have it? I need one?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Who do you like from what jersey?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I got everybody from my draft class, mostly so Steph
Curry was an old nine draft guy. I got his,
and I got a bunch of my teammates. So I
got Jannis and I mean I got hundreds of jerseys,
but I never got Lebron. I'm still looking for Lebron
and Kevin Durrant.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
What what do you think happens with Jannis this off season?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I think he stays in Milwaukee. I think his brother's
going to come back. This is my theory. I think
they're going to sign his brother back, and then they
might sign the older the other brother that plays overseas.
I think he just bring his whole family over there.
He like, Hey, if I'm gonna stay here, I have
my whole family on the team.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
It feels like there's three teams interested in Durant. Where
do you think he ends up.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I hope he ends up with the Spurs. I know
it's gonna take some willing and Dylan to get it done.
But that's where I hope he ends up with. Houston
wouldn't be a bad place for him. I think they
have a really exciting team, the up and coming team,
and I know he has a relationship with me, so
I wouldn't be surprised if he went there too. But
I would like to see him with San Antonio.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
What is he eighth on the all time scoring list
something like that?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Incredible? Yeah, he's incredible. He does he doesn't tell. If
he doesn't tear as Achilles, he probably on his way
to the top five for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Top five in scoring, yeah easy. Is he a top
ten player of all time on my list?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yes, I think he's the best scorer that the NBA
has ever seen. I mean, he's almost shooting fifty forty
ninety for his career at seven foot and he shoots
a lot of jump shots. It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
What's the scouting report?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Just put a hand up. I was part of the game.
I was played maybe a minute when he had that
forty nine, like fifteen and ten for Brooklyn during that
playoff run. I think that's the series had he stepped
on the line after he made that shot. Yeah, watching
that game, I knew like he's inredb there's nothing you
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can do when he wants to score the basketball. Hes
going to score the basketball.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So you played one minute.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I don't even remember if I got in that game,
but if I did, it probably was one minute. I
probably got scored on.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So all you did is so that's your defense for
Durant to just put your hand up.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, that's all you can really do. Because he's seven footy,
shoots right over. You just got to pray that he misses.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Hey, congrats on the success. Keep telling the great stories there.
Good luck with the high school team.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's Jeff Cheegue and it's a club five twenty. He's
head coach of Pike High School in Indianapolis.
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Speaker 2 (14:11):
He's a Hall of Famer, so why not have a
Hall of Excellence. Jim Gray, the co host Let's Go podcast.
Hall of Excellence Museum partnering with Tom Brady and when
we were out at the Super Bowl, they announced that
they were going to have this Hall of Excellence at
the Fountain Blue in Las Vegas, are Home away from Home,
the newest luxury hotel on the Strip, and Jim joining
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us as they get ready for the grand opening today. Jim,
great to see you. How long has this been in
the works.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Great to see you, Dan, Thanks for having me on.
Eight years. Eight years we've been talking about this and
today the public gets to share in all these great artifacts.
So it's been a long journey, a lot of twists
and turns, but here we are and hope everybody comes
and enjoys it. Get all this stuff out of people
safe deposit boxes, out of their warehouses, out of these auctions,
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and now everybody can come see the fans saw it
when they earned these achievements, when they produced this excellence,
and now they can share in it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Run down the list of items that people can see
at the Fountain Blue.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Muhammed Ali's robe, his final robe as he got ready
for Trevor Burbeck. Kobe Bryant's first jersey that he wore
on National TV in the McDonald's All American Game, the
bat that Jackie Robinson used to break the color barrier,
all of Tom Brady's seven rings, in fact, the eight rings,
including his Orange Bowl ring, his jerseys and so forth.
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We've got Babe ruts called shot back. We've got the
only bat that we know in existence from Joe DiMaggio's
fifty six game hitting street Lebron James, the basket that
was used when he broke Kareem Abdul Jabbar's record, the
torch that lit Muhammad Ali's torch for the Olympics. A
baseball by every president to thro out a FIRS pitch
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dating all the way back to Woodrow Wilson, Oprah Winfrey's
Medal of Freedom, Clint Eastwood, Glynt Eastwood's Academy Awards for
Unforgiven his first one. We have a trophy room for
everything that's competed for in life. Pete Sampras's Wimbledon trophy,
Billy Jeane King's Wimbledon dish, the Clara Jones from Tom Weiskoff,
the Heisman Trophy of Charles Woodson. I can go on
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and there's three hundred artifacts. Do you want to We
got a lot of stuff here, A lot of stuff here.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
How long does it take to go through?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Well? Morgan Freeman is the voice of God and a
voice of the Hall of Excellence, and he takes you
through a tour and that will take you about thirty
eight minutes if you listen to Morgan. But on each
and every artifact, Dan, you can hit a button and
then you'll hear the greatest voices of our time. We
have Marv Albert for basketball and the Dream Team. We
have Bob Costas for baseball in the Olympics. We have
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Jim Nantz for golf. We have Oprah Winfrey for the entertainment.
We have Andre's Canter who does the soccer. We have
Mike Emric who does the hockey, and Mary Carilla for tennis,
and Tom for his artifacts, me for boxing. So you
can come in here and you can be inspired, you
can be educated and hopefully entertained.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Okay, how do you go about getting all of this stuff?
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Well, that's why it's taken eight years, Dan. I've called
in every favor from everybody. And when you're calling with
Tom Brady's name attached, it opens all of the doors.
And I had a bunch of stuff that had been
given to me over the years by all of these
great athletes, and they didn't give it to me because
they wanted me to give it away or to sell it.
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They gave it to me because they wanted me to
have it. So now I wanted to display this. I
don't have children, so there's no one to pass it
on to, So why not let the public come in
and see it and get these things into a place.
And the Fountain Blue Hotel has just been a great partner.
Jeff Sofer, you stay here, you're here for the super Bowl.
This place is spectacular and they've been a spectacular partner
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to work with.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Is Tom Brady nostalgic? Is he a collector?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
He is. He's been collecting things since the day he
went to the Catch and he came home with that
styrofoam finger number one that he was waving when Dwight
Clark caught that pass from Joe Montana. He collected cards.
He's very into this. He comes in here and he
spends hours and he's just astonished. He's moved by it
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because you know, Tom has often said that anybody can
be great. You can be great for a game, you
can be great for a season, But what about the
sustain test of time. That's what excellence is. And it
was Al Davis who said commitment to excellence and of
course we're here with the Raiders. Al was a dear
friend of mine, and Al we'd have many many dinners,
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hundreds of dinners back in Los Angeles when the Raiders
were there, and he once said to me he wanted
to have a Raiders Hall of Fame. And I said,
you know what, ol great idea. You should call it
the Hall of Excellence. And he said, Jimmy, that's a
pretty good idea. Unfortunately he never got to it in
his lifetime. Perhaps Mark Davis will build one here. But
that's where I came up with the germ of this
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hall of excellence. So I said this the time, about
eight years ago. I said, o'p we got all this
stuff and he broke some record. I said, what do
you do with all this stuff? He said, I put
it down in my closet and I've got a storage room.
And I said, we should do this. And that's where
the germ of the idea came. And that's how we've
gotten here today.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
How do you think that movie is going to portray
John Madden and now Davis that's said to come out.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
They better get it right. They better get it right.
I hope they get it right. It's a tribute to
them that they're doing it. But if they screw around
and jag it all up and make it all wrong,
that would be a shame. But I hope that the
people who are doing it are diligent. And Madden's an icon.
How's the only man, How's the only man in the
history of football to be a scout, an assistant general manager,
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a general manager, a president, a head coach, an assistant coach,
and a commissioner. So he's one of the clients. So
I hope they get it right.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
And with John Madden, what did you have? A ten
year career as a coach? But I like people don't
really think of him as a coach, Like when you say, oh,
he was a great coach, and they go he coached,
They think of video games and being a broadcaster there.
But I think he won one hundred games in those
ten years.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
He was the fastest to win one hundred games and
get that percentage at the time, And yeah, we have
a tribute to John Madden. I lived at John's house.
I was like the guy who came for dinner and
never left at the Dakota. When I got my first
job at NBC back in the late eighties, and so
I stayed there and had a lot of great stories
with John. But we have a shrine to the All
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Madden team, one of his Emmy's at his last plane
ticket that Mike and Virginia Madden gave us his last
play ticket before the advent of the train. And then
the Madden Cruiser, and it's right here behind us.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Then where is the Madden Cruiser?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I believe the Madden Cruiser is the Pro Football Hall
of Fame in Campton, Ohio, and that they use it
as a special exhibit and toured around from time to time.
And Pro Football Hall of Fame has been great to us.
We have a deal with them where they've given us
some artifacts. They've been great. The Nate Smith Memorial Basketball
Hall of Fame, the USGA and the Golf Hall of
Fame and Graceland. We have something for everybody. We have
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the very first Dan. If you walk the strip right now,
it's one hundred and ten degrees out there. If you
walk the strip, you're going to see twenty people dressed
as Elvis Presley walking around. Yeah, take their picture. We
have Elvis Presley's first suit that he wore for his
first residency from Graceland and the people at ABG and
they were just great. So we had that when he
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appeared across the street at the International Hotel. We also
have the Beatles first poster and program signed by them.
It was three dollars to go back on that night
in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Give me the Holy Grail. What's the one item that
you're still in pursuit of.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
That's a great question. It's a great question. You know,
I'm not sure that there is something that that that is.
There are a lot of things that we would you know,
obviously we will continue and grow U and and always
curate the museum. You know, there are a lot of
great athletes. I'm sure you know something from Jesse Owens.
We have a changed the world right behind this wall
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exhibit where we have Jackie Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Bill Russell
his MVP Award that his wife Jeanine has granted us
a loan down display, Billy Jean King her dress for
her iconic dress from the Philadelphia Freedom, Jim Brown's helmet
when he broke the record as a Cleveland Brown, and
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Kareem Abdul Jabbar. So you know, we're always looking for
people who change the world. So perhaps Jesse owens for
his great feat. So what he did at the Berlin Olympics.
And you know, right in front of me is Simone
Bias and shoey Otani and Tom shoes from when he
came back from twenty eight to three. So we've got
so many great items here. But there's always room to improve.
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Commitment to excellence never ends, Dan.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
But if Tom wants one of his Super Bowl rings,
how does he get it?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
He calls us up and he says, I want to
wear this tonight. And guess what. Everybody who's loaned this,
every single person who's loaned this, the day they want
it back is the day we give it back. And
so Tom will come and take his ring, and you
know we'll say temporarily unavailable, come back tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Before I let you go. The Pete Rose situation, I
did think about you when the commissioner said that he
would consider putting him up, you know, for Hall of
Fame or putting him on the ballot. And at the
time I thought the timing was weird. I know that
that you know, we're looking at a lifetime ban, but
it wasn't. It was a permanent ban. It wasn't his lifetime,
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and then they changed it to a lifetime ban, and
then there was some wiggle room. President Trump's role in
this with the commissioner, and I did think of you,
of what you think? How does baseball honor Pete Rose.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Dan. I've always said, we do not live in the
Soviet Union. Pete rose accomplishments are his accomplishments, and we
should not be trying to erase them. What he did
on the field was the greatest hitter of all time
by the numbers, and that should be acknowledged, and he
should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame by the
same token. While it was coupled, there's consequence for action.
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And he walked in front of that sign. That sign
didn't say no steroids, it didn't say no domestic abuse,
it said no gambling. And he saw that sign thirty
thousand times. But it was a lifetime ban. His lifetime
is over the Hall of Fame committee now when it
reconvenes for that committee should consider him. And I believe
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because of what he achieved, I've always said he should
be in the Hall of Fame, but it should be
noted on his flag that he was banned for baseball
due to gambling. That was a part of his life
and that should be a part of the plaque. But yes,
his records are his records. And if you have his
bat in there for breaking the record, and you have
his uniform or one of the balls or whatever it
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is that Cooperstown displays, you know he's in the Hall
of Fame. And when his plaque and when his time
is done, you know, the shame of it is is
that Pete didn't get to see it while he was alive,
that the reform that that Commissioner Giamani asked him to
reconfigure his life. You know that he that that didn't happen,
and that's and that's that, and that's sad for him
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he's gone now, and sad for his family. And it's
just it's just all kind of too bad because what
he did on the field and what he achieved on
the field, you know, was was so super so great.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
How do you differentiate Pete from Barry Bonds, who uh
did it on the field but under you know, certainly
a cloud of suspicion that what Pete did on the
field wasn't under suspicion, but certainly Bonds what he did.
Can you play him in the Hall of Fame. Well,
they haven't voted him man, so he is at least
on the balot, but having a plaque that says this
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is what he was accused of or involved in. Or
how do you know? How do you edit this?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I can I ask you a question? Yeah, I sometimes
do that in my career. That's the capacity question. How
is Bud Felick, who profiteered in the Baseball Hall of Fame,
who stood over this, watched over, presided over all of this.
You all of the guys who he presided over are
banished or not allowed. Come on, this is ridiculous. He
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got called to the carpet by Congress. That's why he
altered his position because he didn't want to lose anti trust.
And so now we put Bud Celik, who I love,
I'm personally very fond of, but I love sus Celick.
She's one of my favorite people. But come on, this,
this this stuff's ridiculous. You can be in the Hall
of Fame. You let all of this go on, All
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of the club's profiteered. The attendance was up. This is
what I don't want to say. It was the standard
because I don't want to besmirch the people who didn't.
But I'm saying this was prevalent, and there are a
lot of guys who are under this cloud, and so
I would hope that at some point Baseball would find
a way to have the grace to say this was
a part of our life. Let's denote it, let's show it,
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let's explain it, and let's move on. Barry Bonds was
great long before anything that he was accused of. Okay,
so I believe he belongs in the Hall of Fame.
That's my personal opinion. I don't like anybody who cheats.
I don't like anybody who stirts the rules. I don't
like when it's under a cloud of suspicion or that
somebody has an advantage. But I think when it's prevalent
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and the commissioner is allowed to be in the Hall
of Fame than the people who were doing it to
have that same consideration, Yeah, that's what I would think.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, I don't want to be holier than now, but
I did think when Bud Seely was going to go
into the Hall of Fame that you say no, because
you have to acknowledge what happened under your leadership.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Exactly or exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Or put it on his plaque, And you're right, Bud Seiling.
I love Bud. His wife is very nice and a
frequent listener of the show. But I thought maybe you'd say, hey,
I was the guy in charge of this. Now. He
wasn't as strong as Donald fear in the Players Association.
He told me that numerous times. He said, there's only
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so much I can do, and that's why I started
really going after testing in the minor leagues. But still
it's under your watch that this happened, one of the
darkest eras in Major League Baseball history.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Can I say something before we go? Sure, you're a
great voice, which you did for John Facinda, Brett Musberger. Dan,
you you are a Hall of Famer. You belong in
the Hall of Excellence. You've been long over the test
of time. You've have to sustained. So I appreciate what
you do for our fellow brethren. I appreciate what you
do for the public. Your interviews are great, You're great,
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You're personally a friend of mine. I'm biased, but you're
just spectacular and you belong in the Hall of Fame.
In all these halls of fame, and I thank you
for what you do for all of us. And you
know it's a lifetime of achievement and you've just been
You've been spectacular. And I want to say that because
you go to bat for everybody, and all of us
should be batting for you.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Would you like a SportsCenter suit that I wore to
put in the Hall of Excellence, Jim, I mean.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
We will hang back proudly.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Okay, you know.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
We have a we have a football here. We do
have a football here that was given to me by
Mark Davis, Bobby Romansky, and Dick Romansky. The Ramanskis are
the only people who've ever been in the equipment room
for the Raiders. It's signed by every Super Bowl announcer
all the way through forty five. That the case here,
every Super Bowl announcer going back to Ray Scott and
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Kirk Gowdy who did Super Bowl number one, Howard Cosel's
on their Madden s Thumball, all the great names.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yes, Dan, send your suit please, I'll see you make
the Yeah. I have my ESPN patch around here somewhere.
Berman gave it to me, my magnetic ESPN patch. Hopefully
I'll see you there maybe in the fall out in Vegas, Jym,
and thank you again. You did a wonderful job.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
He is the the new nightly news anchor. He took
over for Lester Holt. Tom Yamas is here and uh,
June second, you took over as the big cheese there
as the nightly news and do you have makeup on
right now?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Tom?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
I got a little bit of powder. I didn't know
what I was getting into here, man I got I
was like, guys, it's a sports show, and so I
just kind of just do what they tell me. I'm
a little bit on.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Okay, just you know, I felt like, you, you know,
went a little overboard here.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
I even told them, was I just give you powder.
That's hys therapy.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Okay, your Lifestyleah, how does it change now that you're
on call? It feels like twenty four to seven.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
I have some NBC News engineers coming to my house
next week to take over one of my rooms in
my house to make it a mobile studio that can
go live under any circumstance, and when I mean under
any circumstance. If there is no Wi Fi, if there
is no power, we're getting a star Link set up
and just to make sure we can go live. And
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right now we are on sort of a standby to
see what the US does with Iran, and so they're
sort of working over time to make sure we can
get the studio up and going. You know, like I
have a passport on me at all times I can
I got to run to the airport and just knowing
at any point the phone's going to ring and it's
like jump on a plane or we need you to
come in. And you know, but you know that when
you sign up, you know that's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
But you have three kids, Yeah, your wife and kids,
they can kind of understand that. Yeah, you know what
if you're at a soccer game, or you're at a
baptism or at a graduation.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Yeah, it's tough. So I'll give you an example. I mean,
my kids have always known me to do this job,
and so they know that sort of comes with the
territory and that's part of dad's job. And it's tough
on them sometimes, right because they wake up and I'm
not there. I'm on a plane to Ukraine or Israel
or somewhere else. And that's tough, and it's you know,
conversations we have as a family when we get home.
But I'll give you an example. Last Friday, my little
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guy was having his championship Little League game seven years
old against a team where we have a huge rivalry
with the other coach. So this was the biggest game
of the season, and I had to be on the
desk because the game was at five thirty. So I'm
already taping segments, I'm getting ready for nightly news, and
my wife's live streaming the game, and so I'm at
the corner of my eye, I'm watching the live stream
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of this Little League seven you game while I'm reading
something like the serious news. But it was during commercial
breaks and I was able to watch them hits. So
it's good stuff like that. But when I'm home, I'm
dad and I'm a good husband. It's like, I'm just
focused on the family. And I think when you're at home,
that's the way it's got to be. And when you're
at work, you're at work.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
And what point does it click and you go that's
what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
You know, it's interesting. So I was in the ninth grade.
I was taking a writing class on my high school
and an alumnus came in. His name was Louisa Gire.
He was very you know, he's a known local reporter
and anchor. He still he's a great broadcaster. And he said,
if you like writing, check out TV news. And I
went home and I was talking to my parents and
we always watched a lot of news. My parents are
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Cuban refugees. They came here in the late fifties and
the early sixties, and we were constantly watching news in
English and Spanish. So it was always a part of
our life and talking politics and talking about elections, even
as a child. But when I told him that, you know, parents,
it's interesting like immigrant parents. Usually it's like doctor, lawyer, businessman.
There's like only three careers in this world. And when
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I told him about this, they said, you know what,
try it out. And at fifteen I got my first internship,
and so I started working in newsrooms. At fifteen, I
saw my first dead body. That summer, I would interview
local officials. This is Telemundo, Telemundo, Yeah, And so it
was all in Spanish. Me I couldn't even drive. My
mom would drop me off and then you know, like
within an hour, I was in the news van with
a photographer carrying the tripod. And then if there was
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no reporter, I would ask the questions and it was
in Spanish, and it was but it was an incredible
summer and it was so much fun and so exciting.
I did every job. I rolled prompter sort of coffee,
answer phones, go out on shoots, help the photographers. And
I did that pretty much every summer in my life.
And so I was constantly working in newsrooms.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, I tell whether it's parents who call in or
their students who call in of how to get in
the business. And I said, there's no direct route, right,
But I always say, if you don't do something, somebody
else will always think that there's going to be somebody.
And our job is to make this job look great easy.
Like I said to Bob Costas, you made it look
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too easy, Bob. So there's more competition because everybody thinks
they can do sports. Yeah, this isn't difficult. You turn
on a microphone, comb your hair, you're good to go.
Maybe a little powder if you need it. But I don't,
and I think that, no, no, you look great. You don't.
I've done at all. I don't need it.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
I actually lost what you were saying, like I was
looking in your eyes.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
But no, you're right.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
And a lot of people think it's very glamorous, and
at times it can be. But it's a lot of
work and you got to really love it, even covering
something like the Olympics, which is to me, I mean,
one of the best things that we get to cover
what people don't see is that to interview Katie Ledecci
when she wins that gold medal out of the race
and she's huffing and puffing, you have to stay planted
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for two hours with your photographer standing up waiting in
place for that race to end, for her to come up,
and then you can get those ten seconds with her.
But it's incredible to get those ten seconds, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I was in Cuba recently, went there kind of a
cultural exchange, and I'm glad I went. Yeah, but it
was so sad. It is because you look at what
it was and what it may never be. Yeah, and
just the people who were there who never get out
(36:01):
and know they will never get out. They could not
have been more hard working, loyal, caring. But you just
see these buildings and they they what that was like
in the fifties, when you know, Hollywood was going over there.
There were casinos over there, hemingways over you know, this
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was this was a place. The weather is wonderful. But uh,
I'm glad I went. I don't know, have you been back.
I've never been back. I've never I was born here.
My visa has been rejected twice. I tried to go
as a journalist, but I was rejected twice.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
They usually, and we're always having ongoing conversations with the
Cubans to try to go over there, but the two
times I tried to go, I was rejected. Usually they
don't like Cuban American journalists, especially Cuban American journalists who
grew up in Miami. It's very sensitive and that those
those are their rules. My parents have never never gone back.
We still have family there. My entire life. We have
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supported family on the island. Is incredibly sad. People have
no idea of how sad it is in Cuba and
what it once was until you study it. But it's
something that you know to understand. Dan, like my entire life.
My parents toasted every New Year's next year in Havana,
my entire life, and they'll never go back. They probably
will never go back. They're in their seventies now and
they probably will never go back. And it's incredibly sad,
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and I pray for the people there, and I covered
as much as I can.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Tom Yamas is the anchor, the managing editor the nightly news.
Most dangerous setting you've been in.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Uh, There's been a few, right, because there's there's dangerous
settings when you are in extreme weather. Hurricane Katrina physically
knocked me down, whereas you're standing up and the wind
was so strong where you were in Mississippi physically knocked
me down. I've been in Israel, in Ukraine in situations
where you know, the raids go off and you're looking
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out of your window and you're seeing missiles fly into
Tel Aviv and you're seeing the Iron Dome intercepted and
it's the craziest thing that you're witnessing because you're safe,
but you're not really safe because if if the Iron
Dome doesn't work, that missile lands. And I'd say those
types of situations, I mean in local news, there was
there was a lot of extreme weather, but also crime
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scenes that sometimes you get to this scene faster than
the cops do sometimes, and that's not not a great
place to be. I'll give you a good a good story.
So when I was a young reporter in Miami, he
was my first local news gig. Katrina was the big hurricane,
and I had sort of you know, i'd worked, I'd
done a couple of hurricanes, I'd sort of proven myself,
but I was still very green. And we were getting
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deployed to Mississippi and we were gonna work for NBC
News and the local station to be TVJ, And so
I said, oh, my uncle has got a house in
past Christian and I'm sure we could get great shots.
You know, we could. We could cover the hurricane as
it rolls in. And my photographer, who was really experienced
guy covered a lot of hurricanes, he goes, look, man,
this thing's a Cat four, cat five. He goes, your
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uncle's house in the water. That's not a safe No,
trust me, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be great.
To this day, they have not found that house to
this day. And thank god I listened to him. We
were way inland covering the storm. We were still able
to get everything. But yeah, there's things like that all
the time. And then there's there's people on our team
like Richard Engel and Keir Simmons and Raf Sanchez and
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Matt Bradley that are in war zones constantly, and they're
one of the reasons why I think NBC News still
separates itself. There's a lot of conversations about legacy media
versus new media and whatever you want to call it.
What I know is that our people, our teams are
in there on the front lines day and day out,
and they've been doing it for decades.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Competition with other news anchors, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Yeah, oh, you know, in everything weightlifting and I'm joking,
could you take David Mira, I mean arm wrestling. He's
got some big guns, but he's a he's a good
friend and I worked there. I learned a lot from
him and at ABC.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
But he really likes his hair.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
He's got good hair.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
He's got good hair. He does he's got good hair.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
But he's a good guide too. And yeah, it's it's
incredibly competitive, and I don't think you get here unless
you want to compete. Journalism to me, it's obviously about
your viewers, and it's about your your readers and your listeners,
and you got to make sure you get the story right.
But but you don't want to do anything mediocre. You
want to be the best at what you do. And
so yeah, it's still highly competitive, and it's not it's
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it doesn't it doesn't drive us, but it's important to
me because I think you want to put on the
best show every night.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Sports fans can be pretty rough.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
Sports. Oh my god. If you if you read a
sports story and there's a stat that's wrong, it could
be like four hundred and forty wins and you say
four forty one. I mean, you're gonna get emails, your
Twitter is gonna light up. But it's interesting because sports.
We're covering sports more and more in news, and I
think it's a good thing. You know, I actually think
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it's a good thing because there's some incredible drama happening
in sports and people are tuning into live events, live
sports events like they never have before. And so to me,
that that is an news event.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
In some cases, sometimes we'll look at the nightly news
and you'll see the crossover story. Yeah, like Caitlin Clark huge.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
We've been all over it, and I'll tell you why,
because every time I mentioned Caitlyn Clark to someone, they
have an opinion. And a lot of women have opinions
about Caitlin Clark. And it's a story that's sort of
driving a lot of emotion and interest. And one of
the best things about the last incident that happened that
I noticed right off the bat was you look at
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the sort of scuffle and the pushing down and the refs,
but you look at that arena and it was packed
and everyone was on their feet, and it's like the
WNBA is generating an excitement like it never has before.
It's not just Caitlin Clark, it's all the other great players,
Angel Rees and everybody else. I mean, it has a
moment now now. Whether the refs have to catch up,
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we'll find out. But I love that we're like sort
of at the beginning of sort of this transition I
think for the league.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
But how do you decide when that sports story crosses over?
Speaker 5 (42:00):
I think when there's a visceral moment. I think when
there's a story that's gonna hit you here or here
that's gonna sort of resonate with our viewers. We've done
a few baseball stories. I'll give you a good example.
The Yankees out called up a catcher that had been
a Miami Uber driver, human American guy, and uh, that
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story was incredible because he had a guy who just
last year was driving an Uber and now he's backing
up Austin Wells on the New York Yankees and he's
playing great. And I think stories like that touch people,
and so those are the kind of stories we want
to be in. And then the Olympics, there's just there's
so much drama on the Olympics because you have people
who compete their entire lives and they're either gonna meddle
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or they're gonna lose and and that, and that's a
tough moment. And I saw it, uh just recently in Paris,
we were covering Greco Roman Wrestling and there was a
wrestler from maybe he was Kazakhstan and he had just
lost and he's just a big, tough guy and he
walks out to the press line he does like an interview,
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and he just collapses and starts crying like a child.
And when I tell you, this guy was tough. I
mean cauliflower, E're just you know, muscles. It was just
like wow, like you know, like you just can't believe it.
But that's the drama that happens with the Olympics, especially
for different countries where that is their ultimate sport.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Is it required mandatory that you have to have a
feel good story at the end of the news.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
You know, we want to leave people with something good
because we're going to hit them with a lot because
the world is tough. And then I could go granular
on it. The research has shown that the viewers like it.
They love there's good News tonight, that segment we do
at the end. So if our viewers like it, we
like it because at the end of the day, and
I say this, I drill this into our staff, we
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work for the viewer. If you go in there and
you think it's about us, or you think it's about
NBC News, you're going to lose people. At the end
of the day. You got to remember you're working for them,
and if you do that, usually get the journalism right.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
But they're required to say tom and then they go
into their report when you throw it out to the
White House and then they throw it back and they go, Tom, No,
it's you know, there's there's just like it's required, there's
no requirement, but like it.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
But what your what you what you want to do
is you want to make a conversational. I mean you
know this, I mean you want to make a conversational.
You don't want it. You don't want it. You don't
want people to think that they're watching something else to
take them out of it, that it feels fake or
it feels not real or authentic. And I think it's
what we try to create is just hey, look, I
know I know Peter Alexander, I know Gabe Gutias at
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the White House and we're having a conversation.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
But you can call for a camera crew right now
if you wanted to. Yeah, no, I have some questions
about you. And so we got it. We got a
couple of people outside, including Keith Morrison. Oh and so
oh yeah it's a new dateline. Yeah. We've had Keith
Morrison on a couple of times.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
He's amazing, he's one of the he's the goat, but
he he didn't understand why he's so popular, Keith.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Everyone loves it, but he goes, I don't know why
you're having me on And I go, you don't. He goes, no,
My daughter said, you're talking about me. And I don't know,
but Bill Hater doing his impersonation.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
But even and it's funny because this whole, like a
lot of the audience now knows Keith from Dateline, Keith
before Dayline, built an incredible career as a broadcaster and
a reporter. I covered a hurricane with him early in
my career when I was local and he was network
and I'll never forget he got into the satellite truck
and he whipped out a pencil and he just starts
writing like long hand his script, I mean, old school,
(45:31):
and I was just like in awe of this guy,
the way he was working. It was just amazing.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
At pesky DNA. Yeah, DNA, congrats, thank you, good luck,
Thank you Dan, and uh we'll be watching.
Speaker 5 (45:45):
Yeah. And you've opened my eyes here with this studio
with your team here.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Yeah, this is pretty good man.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
I thought I had it good. This is really good.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I could I could see maybe you hosting this show.
One we could do.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
Oh all right, Dan, you let me know how about
swap we want to do news? I don't know. I
always I always love when they do that though, when
they when they would do that, you know, when they
would swap sportscasters and but sometimes they bring something. It's
it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Sometimes. I would never want to do news ever. No no, no,
no no no. I can interview anybody, but I wouldn't
want to do the heart I wouldn't want to do
that on a nightly basis because you know, those first
five stories, we may not have good news in there.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Yeah, oh no, A lot of times you don't. It's
it's a tough part, guys.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I'm talking about the thunder better win Sunday night. Yeah,
talking about Iran, Iran. It's a little different time. I'm
doing okay, Yeah, you're doing okay. He is the big
cheese now NBC Nightly News, taking over for Lester Holt.
What a great man, great man, Great are the best?
Great Man. Tom Yamas is the anchor and managing editor
(46:52):
of the Nightly News
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Let's bring in Jeff Tig, former champion with the Bunks.
He's the head coach of Pike High School in Indianapolis's
alma mater. A couple think an All Star in twenty fifteen,
former first round pick of the Hanks. Great podcast, by
the Way, five point twenty in the morning. So Jeff
Tig joins us on the program. What happened last night?
(00:27):
Why did Indiana dominate Club five twenty? I should say.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Indiana played with a lot of energy. Like you said,
the bench was fantastic. They've been fantastic all series. But
they played with so much energy. You can tell that
they really wanted to get the win last night.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
But when you go to the bench, if you're a
coach and you know your bench is your strength or
one of your strength, can you go to the bench
too soon in a situation like that?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Uh? Yeah? But I think that's what makes Indiana a
great team, Like they can go to the e bench
early and they know they're gonna get some effective play. TJ.
Nash if we call him TJ McConnell and he plays
so well, I mean he comes off the bench with
so much energy, and he changed the dynamic of the
game every time he steps on the floor. So when
you know you had that bolt of energy coming off
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the bench, it's never too late to put him in.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
He gets paid to be annoying, doesn't he.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
What's it like when you face that annoying guy, that
hustle guy never quits high motor.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, you kinda he kind of pitts
you on your toes a little bit, Like you know,
he's gonna come in with that energy. You got to
protect the ball. So as soon as he checks in,
you like, here we go, he come to TASMANI and double,
He's gonna be all over the floor. He's gonna be everywhere.
And playing against him was annoying. But watching him play
and probably like his teammates, probably loved him for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Explain the defense with the Pacers. We talk about Okayc's defense,
but you're turning. You know, Shay had eight turnovers. Yeah,
I mean they that's not typical. So what happened last
night that kind of turned them into a turnover machine?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Indiana was flying around, they were on a string and
They're not known for being really a physical team throughout
the regular season, but this playoffs matchups they've been so
physical and attacking the ball, and they're making the shasy bodies.
I mean, nim Hart did a wonderful job last night
staying in front of him trying to make them make
tough shots. But every time he was spin or go
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behind his back, he will be a second defender there.
And they played a team defense last night. Miles Turner
was big in the paint. It was just an overall
great team effort.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And now the pressure on game in Game seven on okay,
shit right.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
All on?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Ok see. I mean they played really well at home,
we know that, but a couple of those shots missed
early in that game. They could get a little spooky.
I think the Pacers are playing with a lot of confidence.
They really don't have anything to lose. Everybody expects them
to lose on a game seven on the road, so
they're probably gonna play free. I can imagine Tyrese Haliburn
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having a big game. I'm actually taking the Pacers in
this game.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Okay, did you have the Pacers from the beginning, because
you know, oh you get okay, see okay.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, I had okay, see, but I told some of
the guys that on the podcast with me, if it
made it to a Game seven, I was gonna take
the Pacers just because I know the pressures that could
be on. In the game seven.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Playing through an injury. Halliburton played what twenty three minutes. Yeah,
because that kind of injury, you'd probably be missing games
during the regular season, but you can't sit down, go
back in, go sit down. Like it felt like Carlisle
is gonna go. I'll get as much as I can
for as long as I can. And I don't know
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if three days of rest how that impacts that kind
of injury, if at all.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Probably not. I mean, he probably need a couple of
weeks to get back healthy. But I just think that
that spirit, that toughness that he's playing through it, I
think and went throughout the whole team, and you can
see how they were playing. They were all connected. It
was like they were they had one goals to get
to that Game seven, and I think they kind of
carry that energy over to Game seven. I think the
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Pacers can take it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Jeff Cheeg, you won a championship with the Box in
twenty twenty one, head coach of Pike High School in
the Indianapolis, his alma mater, and his podcast Club five twenty.
You tell great stories. You're not afraid to tell great stories.
Give me the story that probably got the most reaction
after you told it on your podcast.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Probably the Jimmy Butler story. Jimmy Butler he had an episode,
I would say, during practice where he kind of went
off on everybody and he ended up playing us with
like some of the guys from the G League and
beating us and telling us about it, and I kind
of told the backstory to it all. And then he
got traded. So it was just a whole funny scenario.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Wait, so he's just he's taking names like he's he's
going at you guys and bringing in guy to prove
that he can. It doesn't matter who he has, he's
going to beat you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, he just wanted to He wanted to get paid
and basically he was he was looking to get that
extension and he didn't get the extension he wanted, so
he came in and he was trying to wreck shot
and he pointed out guys from the front office to
the coaching staff to players on the team and he
just went at everybody and he had a moment in
practice and he was he was killing and he was
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letting to be known.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Is he crazy or calculated?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Calculated? It's not crazy at all. But he's gonna get
what he wants and he's gonna go to whatever extreme
measures he need to to get what he wants.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You ever play against the guy who made you a
little nervous that he was kind of crazy. Wasn't all there?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Uh? Yeah, Reggie Evans? He scared me a little bit. Why,
I'm not gonna say he wasn't all there, but he
he was physical and it just seemed like he wanted
to smoke any time. So I had a college teammate
named James Johnson who plays for the Pacers and practice
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sometimes you would think he was all there. But he's
very intelligent, very locked in, but he can get he
can get going a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
What was your welcome to the NBA moment?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Welcome to the NBA. Uh, I can't even say his name. No,
Strona Staviachy bowed me in the nose for trying to
dunk on them. That was my welcome to the NBA.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And what did you do?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
He held the town to my nose, so no words,
you're exchanged.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Nah, Like he just he kind of apologized to me,
was like, hey, you're not gonna be able to dunk
in this league. Man, just help my you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Nothing I can really do what should like to guard
Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I told a story about that on the podcast. In
a preseason game. We went to China for a preseason
game when I was in Minnesota, and you know, it's
a preseason game. We're all having a good fun and
he's like, before the game, let's play serious. It's like
get a good run in the night, y'all. So we're like, okay,
and he ended up scoring forty something points on me
in front of thirty forty thousand people. I was so mad.
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If I could have fought Steph Curtin, I would have
fault him. But now he's incredible.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
But when do you know, like, is there any indication
when somebody gets on one of those heaters and you
just know it doesn't matter what you do.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, with him, when he when he starts dancing and
doing all the SIMI and stuff, you know pretty much
him in trouble.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
And then the mouthpiece comes out right in front of you.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
You get the running around and Dramond Green get to
set in the legal screen.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Whoa, But you want Draymond on your team, right for sure.
But he's but he's a dirty player.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
No, I wouldn't call him dirty. I think he just
plays hard.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, you would, you'd call him dirty.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Everybody. Everybody got a little dirty. He's just been televised.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I would say, well, we do focus on him, but
it feels like whatever it takes, he's he's going to do.
But he he made himself into a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I mean he does all the little things.
He's a phenomenal defender, he can guard one through five,
great playmaker. But he's that guy you want on your team.
But you definitely hate playing against him.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But you're you're coaching high school now, and I'm curious
about this Steph Curry impact on high school basketball. How
how much do you coach or coach against that style
of basketball?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Uh, nobody can shoot like Steph Curry. So that's the
first problem.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, but they think they can.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, that's the that's the biggest problem. So everybody wants
to shoot threes. I'm not against taking threes if you're
open to shooting basketball. But uh, it's not even more
steph Curry. It's kind of like more James Harden that
you gotta face. Like the dribble dribble step back threes.
That's probably the hardest thing to control a little bit.
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But shooting threes, if you can shoot, I'll let you shoot.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
What was like when Harden would have get on a heater?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh, he was the hardest player to ever guard in
the NBA besides Dereck Rose for me, because you couldn't
touch him. He can get to the foul line at will.
He shoot that step back through, like I said, and man,
he was incredible when he was averaging like thirty five
thirty four points a game. There's nothing you could really
do with them.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
If Derek Rose doesn't get hurt.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, he's to me. If he doesn't get hurt, he's
a top five point guard of all time.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
What made him special.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
His speed, quickness, his strength, and then his ability to
make those floaters and tough shots. And then he was
fearless and he never got tired. Literally he I mean,
you know how tims for fifty minutes. It's only forty
eight in the game, but like he never got tired.
He was always ready. He never set out games, and
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he was always in attack mode.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You got a good Lebron story.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Lebron's my favorite player all time. So I've never beat
him in a playoff series, like, never won a game.
So I got like PTSD playing against a little bit.
But he's still my favorite player all the time. But
I got a lot of slack and a lot of
pushback from some guys because I pushed him into the
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crowd one time because we were losing. I was a
sore loser.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Wow, And.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, I got a couple of death threats. But we're
all good now.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Wait death threats.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, because they were winning the series. And I think
it might have been Game four and we're there, probably
like eight, and he was dribbling the ball and he
was kind of waving at the crowd, but we're at
home and the crowd was rooting for him, and I
just kind of life, nah, not here, and I pushed
him out of bounds. And you don't get on Twitter after.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That Lebron saying anything to you.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Nah. He just laughed. He kind of got up there
and wiped his shoulder off crowd went crazy again and
I got ejected.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
But he's your favorite player instead of Jordan.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Do you ask for a jersey from Lebron?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Not?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Have it? I need one?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Who do you like from what jersey?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I got everybody from my draft class, mostly so Steph
Curry was an old nine draft guy. I got his,
and I got a bunch of my teammates. So I
got Jannis and I mean I got hundreds of jerseys,
but I never got Lebron. I'm still looking for Lebron
and Kevin Durrant.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
What what do you think happens with Jannis this off season?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I think he stays in Milwaukee. I think his brother's
going to come back. This is my theory. I think
they're going to sign his brother back, and then they
might sign the older the other brother that plays overseas.
I think he just bring his whole family over there.
He like, Hey, if I'm gonna stay here, I have
my whole family on the team.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
It feels like there's three teams interested in Durant. Where
do you think he ends up.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I hope he ends up with the Spurs. I know
it's gonna take some willing and Dylan to get it done.
But that's where I hope he ends up with. Houston
wouldn't be a bad place for him. I think they
have a really exciting team, the up and coming team,
and I know he has a relationship with me, so
I wouldn't be surprised if he went there too. But
I would like to see him with San Antonio.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
What is he eighth on the all time scoring list
something like that?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Incredible? Yeah, he's incredible. He does he doesn't tell. If
he doesn't tear as Achilles, he probably on his way
to the top five for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Top five in scoring, yeah easy. Is he a top
ten player of all time on my list?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yes, I think he's the best scorer that the NBA
has ever seen. I mean, he's almost shooting fifty forty
ninety for his career at seven foot and he shoots
a lot of jump shots. It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
What's the scouting report?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Just put a hand up. I was part of the game.
I was played maybe a minute when he had that
forty nine, like fifteen and ten for Brooklyn during that
playoff run. I think that's the series had he stepped
on the line after he made that shot. Yeah, watching
that game, I knew like he's inredb there's nothing you
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can do when he wants to score the basketball. Hes
going to score the basketball.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So you played one minute.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I don't even remember if I got in that game,
but if I did, it probably was one minute. I
probably got scored on.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So all you did is so that's your defense for
Durant to just put your hand up.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, that's all you can really do. Because he's seven footy,
shoots right over. You just got to pray that he misses.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Hey, congrats on the success. Keep telling the great stories there.
Good luck with the high school team.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's Jeff Cheegue and it's a club five twenty. He's
head coach of Pike High School in Indianapolis.
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Speaker 2 (14:11):
He's a Hall of Famer, so why not have a
Hall of Excellence. Jim Gray, the co host Let's Go podcast.
Hall of Excellence Museum partnering with Tom Brady and when
we were out at the Super Bowl, they announced that
they were going to have this Hall of Excellence at
the Fountain Blue in Las Vegas, are Home away from Home,
the newest luxury hotel on the Strip, and Jim joining
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us as they get ready for the grand opening today. Jim,
great to see you. How long has this been in
the works.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Great to see you, Dan, Thanks for having me on.
Eight years. Eight years we've been talking about this and
today the public gets to share in all these great artifacts.
So it's been a long journey, a lot of twists
and turns, but here we are and hope everybody comes
and enjoys it. Get all this stuff out of people
safe deposit boxes, out of their warehouses, out of these auctions,
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and now everybody can come see the fans saw it
when they earned these achievements, when they produced this excellence,
and now they can share in it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Run down the list of items that people can see
at the Fountain Blue.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Muhammed Ali's robe, his final robe as he got ready
for Trevor Burbeck. Kobe Bryant's first jersey that he wore
on National TV in the McDonald's All American Game, the
bat that Jackie Robinson used to break the color barrier,
all of Tom Brady's seven rings, in fact, the eight rings,
including his Orange Bowl ring, his jerseys and so forth.
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We've got Babe ruts called shot back. We've got the
only bat that we know in existence from Joe DiMaggio's
fifty six game hitting street Lebron James, the basket that
was used when he broke Kareem Abdul Jabbar's record, the
torch that lit Muhammad Ali's torch for the Olympics. A
baseball by every president to thro out a FIRS pitch
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dating all the way back to Woodrow Wilson, Oprah Winfrey's
Medal of Freedom, Clint Eastwood, Glynt Eastwood's Academy Awards for
Unforgiven his first one. We have a trophy room for
everything that's competed for in life. Pete Sampras's Wimbledon trophy,
Billy Jeane King's Wimbledon dish, the Clara Jones from Tom Weiskoff,
the Heisman Trophy of Charles Woodson. I can go on
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and there's three hundred artifacts. Do you want to We
got a lot of stuff here, A lot of stuff here.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
How long does it take to go through?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Well? Morgan Freeman is the voice of God and a
voice of the Hall of Excellence, and he takes you
through a tour and that will take you about thirty
eight minutes if you listen to Morgan. But on each
and every artifact, Dan, you can hit a button and
then you'll hear the greatest voices of our time. We
have Marv Albert for basketball and the Dream Team. We
have Bob Costas for baseball in the Olympics. We have
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Jim Nantz for golf. We have Oprah Winfrey for the entertainment.
We have Andre's Canter who does the soccer. We have
Mike Emric who does the hockey, and Mary Carilla for tennis,
and Tom for his artifacts, me for boxing. So you
can come in here and you can be inspired, you
can be educated and hopefully entertained.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Okay, how do you go about getting all of this stuff?
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Well, that's why it's taken eight years, Dan. I've called
in every favor from everybody. And when you're calling with
Tom Brady's name attached, it opens all of the doors.
And I had a bunch of stuff that had been
given to me over the years by all of these
great athletes, and they didn't give it to me because
they wanted me to give it away or to sell it.
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They gave it to me because they wanted me to
have it. So now I wanted to display this. I
don't have children, so there's no one to pass it
on to, So why not let the public come in
and see it and get these things into a place.
And the Fountain Blue Hotel has just been a great partner.
Jeff Sofer, you stay here, you're here for the super Bowl.
This place is spectacular and they've been a spectacular partner
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to work with.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Is Tom Brady nostalgic? Is he a collector?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
He is. He's been collecting things since the day he
went to the Catch and he came home with that
styrofoam finger number one that he was waving when Dwight
Clark caught that pass from Joe Montana. He collected cards.
He's very into this. He comes in here and he
spends hours and he's just astonished. He's moved by it
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because you know, Tom has often said that anybody can
be great. You can be great for a game, you
can be great for a season, But what about the
sustain test of time. That's what excellence is. And it
was Al Davis who said commitment to excellence and of
course we're here with the Raiders. Al was a dear
friend of mine, and Al we'd have many many dinners,
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hundreds of dinners back in Los Angeles when the Raiders
were there, and he once said to me he wanted
to have a Raiders Hall of Fame. And I said,
you know what, ol great idea. You should call it
the Hall of Excellence. And he said, Jimmy, that's a
pretty good idea. Unfortunately he never got to it in
his lifetime. Perhaps Mark Davis will build one here. But
that's where I came up with the germ of this
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hall of excellence. So I said this the time, about
eight years ago. I said, o'p we got all this
stuff and he broke some record. I said, what do
you do with all this stuff? He said, I put
it down in my closet and I've got a storage room.
And I said, we should do this. And that's where
the germ of the idea came. And that's how we've
gotten here today.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
How do you think that movie is going to portray
John Madden and now Davis that's said to come out.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
They better get it right. They better get it right.
I hope they get it right. It's a tribute to
them that they're doing it. But if they screw around
and jag it all up and make it all wrong,
that would be a shame. But I hope that the
people who are doing it are diligent. And Madden's an icon.
How's the only man, How's the only man in the
history of football to be a scout, an assistant general manager,
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a general manager, a president, a head coach, an assistant coach,
and a commissioner. So he's one of the clients. So
I hope they get it right.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
And with John Madden, what did you have? A ten
year career as a coach? But I like people don't
really think of him as a coach, Like when you say, oh,
he was a great coach, and they go he coached,
They think of video games and being a broadcaster there.
But I think he won one hundred games in those
ten years.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
He was the fastest to win one hundred games and
get that percentage at the time, And yeah, we have
a tribute to John Madden. I lived at John's house.
I was like the guy who came for dinner and
never left at the Dakota. When I got my first
job at NBC back in the late eighties, and so
I stayed there and had a lot of great stories
with John. But we have a shrine to the All
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Madden team, one of his Emmy's at his last plane
ticket that Mike and Virginia Madden gave us his last
play ticket before the advent of the train. And then
the Madden Cruiser, and it's right here behind us.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Then where is the Madden Cruiser?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I believe the Madden Cruiser is the Pro Football Hall
of Fame in Campton, Ohio, and that they use it
as a special exhibit and toured around from time to time.
And Pro Football Hall of Fame has been great to us.
We have a deal with them where they've given us
some artifacts. They've been great. The Nate Smith Memorial Basketball
Hall of Fame, the USGA and the Golf Hall of
Fame and Graceland. We have something for everybody. We have
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the very first Dan. If you walk the strip right now,
it's one hundred and ten degrees out there. If you
walk the strip, you're going to see twenty people dressed
as Elvis Presley walking around. Yeah, take their picture. We
have Elvis Presley's first suit that he wore for his
first residency from Graceland and the people at ABG and
they were just great. So we had that when he
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appeared across the street at the International Hotel. We also
have the Beatles first poster and program signed by them.
It was three dollars to go back on that night
in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Give me the Holy Grail. What's the one item that
you're still in pursuit of.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
That's a great question. It's a great question. You know,
I'm not sure that there is something that that that is.
There are a lot of things that we would you know,
obviously we will continue and grow U and and always
curate the museum. You know, there are a lot of
great athletes. I'm sure you know something from Jesse Owens.
We have a changed the world right behind this wall
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exhibit where we have Jackie Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Bill Russell
his MVP Award that his wife Jeanine has granted us
a loan down display, Billy Jean King her dress for
her iconic dress from the Philadelphia Freedom, Jim Brown's helmet
when he broke the record as a Cleveland Brown, and
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Kareem Abdul Jabbar. So you know, we're always looking for
people who change the world. So perhaps Jesse owens for
his great feat. So what he did at the Berlin Olympics.
And you know, right in front of me is Simone
Bias and shoey Otani and Tom shoes from when he
came back from twenty eight to three. So we've got
so many great items here. But there's always room to improve.
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Commitment to excellence never ends, Dan.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
But if Tom wants one of his Super Bowl rings,
how does he get it?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
He calls us up and he says, I want to
wear this tonight. And guess what. Everybody who's loaned this,
every single person who's loaned this, the day they want
it back is the day we give it back. And
so Tom will come and take his ring, and you
know we'll say temporarily unavailable, come back tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Before I let you go. The Pete Rose situation, I
did think about you when the commissioner said that he
would consider putting him up, you know, for Hall of
Fame or putting him on the ballot. And at the
time I thought the timing was weird. I know that
that you know, we're looking at a lifetime ban, but
it wasn't. It was a permanent ban. It wasn't his lifetime,
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and then they changed it to a lifetime ban, and
then there was some wiggle room. President Trump's role in
this with the commissioner, and I did think of you,
of what you think? How does baseball honor Pete Rose.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Dan. I've always said, we do not live in the
Soviet Union. Pete rose accomplishments are his accomplishments, and we
should not be trying to erase them. What he did
on the field was the greatest hitter of all time
by the numbers, and that should be acknowledged, and he
should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame by the
same token. While it was coupled, there's consequence for action.
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And he walked in front of that sign. That sign
didn't say no steroids, it didn't say no domestic abuse,
it said no gambling. And he saw that sign thirty
thousand times. But it was a lifetime ban. His lifetime
is over the Hall of Fame committee now when it
reconvenes for that committee should consider him. And I believe
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because of what he achieved, I've always said he should
be in the Hall of Fame, but it should be
noted on his flag that he was banned for baseball
due to gambling. That was a part of his life
and that should be a part of the plaque. But yes,
his records are his records. And if you have his
bat in there for breaking the record, and you have
his uniform or one of the balls or whatever it
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is that Cooperstown displays, you know he's in the Hall
of Fame. And when his plaque and when his time
is done, you know, the shame of it is is
that Pete didn't get to see it while he was alive,
that the reform that that Commissioner Giamani asked him to
reconfigure his life. You know that he that that didn't happen,
and that's and that's that, and that's sad for him
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he's gone now, and sad for his family. And it's
just it's just all kind of too bad because what
he did on the field and what he achieved on
the field, you know, was was so super so great.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
How do you differentiate Pete from Barry Bonds, who uh
did it on the field but under you know, certainly
a cloud of suspicion that what Pete did on the
field wasn't under suspicion, but certainly Bonds what he did.
Can you play him in the Hall of Fame. Well,
they haven't voted him man, so he is at least
on the balot, but having a plaque that says this
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is what he was accused of or involved in. Or
how do you know? How do you edit this?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I can I ask you a question? Yeah, I sometimes
do that in my career. That's the capacity question. How
is Bud Felick, who profiteered in the Baseball Hall of Fame,
who stood over this, watched over, presided over all of this.
You all of the guys who he presided over are
banished or not allowed. Come on, this is ridiculous. He
(26:34):
got called to the carpet by Congress. That's why he
altered his position because he didn't want to lose anti trust.
And so now we put Bud Celik, who I love,
I'm personally very fond of, but I love sus Celick.
She's one of my favorite people. But come on, this,
this this stuff's ridiculous. You can be in the Hall
of Fame. You let all of this go on, All
(26:54):
of the club's profiteered. The attendance was up. This is
what I don't want to say. It was the standard
because I don't want to besmirch the people who didn't.
But I'm saying this was prevalent, and there are a
lot of guys who are under this cloud, and so
I would hope that at some point Baseball would find
a way to have the grace to say this was
a part of our life. Let's denote it, let's show it,
(27:17):
let's explain it, and let's move on. Barry Bonds was
great long before anything that he was accused of. Okay,
so I believe he belongs in the Hall of Fame.
That's my personal opinion. I don't like anybody who cheats.
I don't like anybody who stirts the rules. I don't
like when it's under a cloud of suspicion or that
somebody has an advantage. But I think when it's prevalent
(27:39):
and the commissioner is allowed to be in the Hall
of Fame than the people who were doing it to
have that same consideration, Yeah, that's what I would think.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, I don't want to be holier than now, but
I did think when Bud Seely was going to go
into the Hall of Fame that you say no, because
you have to acknowledge what happened under your leadership.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Exactly or exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Or put it on his plaque, And you're right, Bud Seiling.
I love Bud. His wife is very nice and a
frequent listener of the show. But I thought maybe you'd say, hey,
I was the guy in charge of this. Now. He
wasn't as strong as Donald fear in the Players Association.
He told me that numerous times. He said, there's only
(28:25):
so much I can do, and that's why I started
really going after testing in the minor leagues. But still
it's under your watch that this happened, one of the
darkest eras in Major League Baseball history.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Can I say something before we go? Sure, you're a
great voice, which you did for John Facinda, Brett Musberger. Dan,
you you are a Hall of Famer. You belong in
the Hall of Excellence. You've been long over the test
of time. You've have to sustained. So I appreciate what
you do for our fellow brethren. I appreciate what you
do for the public. Your interviews are great, You're great,
(29:00):
You're personally a friend of mine. I'm biased, but you're
just spectacular and you belong in the Hall of Fame.
In all these halls of fame, and I thank you
for what you do for all of us. And you
know it's a lifetime of achievement and you've just been
You've been spectacular. And I want to say that because
you go to bat for everybody, and all of us
should be batting for you.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Would you like a SportsCenter suit that I wore to
put in the Hall of Excellence, Jim, I mean.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
We will hang back proudly.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Okay, you know.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
We have a we have a football here. We do
have a football here that was given to me by
Mark Davis, Bobby Romansky, and Dick Romansky. The Ramanskis are
the only people who've ever been in the equipment room
for the Raiders. It's signed by every Super Bowl announcer
all the way through forty five. That the case here,
every Super Bowl announcer going back to Ray Scott and
(29:53):
Kirk Gowdy who did Super Bowl number one, Howard Cosel's
on their Madden s Thumball, all the great names.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yes, Dan, send your suit please, I'll see you make
the Yeah. I have my ESPN patch around here somewhere.
Berman gave it to me, my magnetic ESPN patch. Hopefully
I'll see you there maybe in the fall out in Vegas, Jym,
and thank you again. You did a wonderful job.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
He is the the new nightly news anchor. He took
over for Lester Holt. Tom Yamas is here and uh,
June second, you took over as the big cheese there
as the nightly news and do you have makeup on
right now?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Tom?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
I got a little bit of powder. I didn't know
what I was getting into here, man I got I
was like, guys, it's a sports show, and so I
just kind of just do what they tell me. I'm
a little bit on.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Okay, just you know, I felt like, you, you know,
went a little overboard here.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
I even told them, was I just give you powder.
That's hys therapy.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Okay, your Lifestyleah, how does it change now that you're
on call? It feels like twenty four to seven.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
I have some NBC News engineers coming to my house
next week to take over one of my rooms in
my house to make it a mobile studio that can
go live under any circumstance, and when I mean under
any circumstance. If there is no Wi Fi, if there
is no power, we're getting a star Link set up
and just to make sure we can go live. And
(31:28):
right now we are on sort of a standby to
see what the US does with Iran, and so they're
sort of working over time to make sure we can
get the studio up and going. You know, like I
have a passport on me at all times I can
I got to run to the airport and just knowing
at any point the phone's going to ring and it's
like jump on a plane or we need you to
come in. And you know, but you know that when
you sign up, you know that's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
But you have three kids, Yeah, your wife and kids,
they can kind of understand that. Yeah, you know what
if you're at a soccer game, or you're at a
baptism or at a graduation.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Yeah, it's tough. So I'll give you an example. I mean,
my kids have always known me to do this job,
and so they know that sort of comes with the
territory and that's part of dad's job. And it's tough
on them sometimes, right because they wake up and I'm
not there. I'm on a plane to Ukraine or Israel
or somewhere else. And that's tough, and it's you know,
conversations we have as a family when we get home.
But I'll give you an example. Last Friday, my little
(32:21):
guy was having his championship Little League game seven years
old against a team where we have a huge rivalry
with the other coach. So this was the biggest game
of the season, and I had to be on the
desk because the game was at five thirty. So I'm
already taping segments, I'm getting ready for nightly news, and
my wife's live streaming the game, and so I'm at
the corner of my eye, I'm watching the live stream
(32:42):
of this Little League seven you game while I'm reading
something like the serious news. But it was during commercial
breaks and I was able to watch them hits. So
it's good stuff like that. But when I'm home, I'm
dad and I'm a good husband. It's like, I'm just
focused on the family. And I think when you're at home,
that's the way it's got to be. And when you're
at work, you're at work.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
And what point does it click and you go that's
what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
You know, it's interesting. So I was in the ninth grade.
I was taking a writing class on my high school
and an alumnus came in. His name was Louisa Gire.
He was very you know, he's a known local reporter
and anchor. He still he's a great broadcaster. And he said,
if you like writing, check out TV news. And I
went home and I was talking to my parents and
we always watched a lot of news. My parents are
(33:24):
Cuban refugees. They came here in the late fifties and
the early sixties, and we were constantly watching news in
English and Spanish. So it was always a part of
our life and talking politics and talking about elections, even
as a child. But when I told him that, you know, parents,
it's interesting like immigrant parents. Usually it's like doctor, lawyer, businessman.
There's like only three careers in this world. And when
(33:45):
I told him about this, they said, you know what,
try it out. And at fifteen I got my first internship,
and so I started working in newsrooms. At fifteen, I
saw my first dead body. That summer, I would interview
local officials. This is Telemundo, Telemundo, Yeah, And so it
was all in Spanish. Me I couldn't even drive. My
mom would drop me off and then you know, like
within an hour, I was in the news van with
a photographer carrying the tripod. And then if there was
(34:08):
no reporter, I would ask the questions and it was
in Spanish, and it was but it was an incredible
summer and it was so much fun and so exciting.
I did every job. I rolled prompter sort of coffee,
answer phones, go out on shoots, help the photographers. And
I did that pretty much every summer in my life.
And so I was constantly working in newsrooms.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, I tell whether it's parents who call in or
their students who call in of how to get in
the business. And I said, there's no direct route, right,
But I always say, if you don't do something, somebody
else will always think that there's going to be somebody.
And our job is to make this job look great easy.
Like I said to Bob Costas, you made it look
(34:47):
too easy, Bob. So there's more competition because everybody thinks
they can do sports. Yeah, this isn't difficult. You turn
on a microphone, comb your hair, you're good to go.
Maybe a little powder if you need it. But I don't,
and I think that, no, no, you look great. You don't.
I've done at all. I don't need it.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
I actually lost what you were saying, like I was
looking in your eyes.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
But no, you're right.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
And a lot of people think it's very glamorous, and
at times it can be. But it's a lot of
work and you got to really love it, even covering
something like the Olympics, which is to me, I mean,
one of the best things that we get to cover
what people don't see is that to interview Katie Ledecci
when she wins that gold medal out of the race
and she's huffing and puffing, you have to stay planted
(35:29):
for two hours with your photographer standing up waiting in
place for that race to end, for her to come up,
and then you can get those ten seconds with her.
But it's incredible to get those ten seconds, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I was in Cuba recently, went there kind of a
cultural exchange, and I'm glad I went. Yeah, but it
was so sad. It is because you look at what
it was and what it may never be. Yeah, and
just the people who were there who never get out
(36:01):
and know they will never get out. They could not
have been more hard working, loyal, caring. But you just
see these buildings and they they what that was like
in the fifties, when you know, Hollywood was going over there.
There were casinos over there, hemingways over you know, this
(36:22):
was this was a place. The weather is wonderful. But uh,
I'm glad I went. I don't know, have you been back.
I've never been back. I've never I was born here.
My visa has been rejected twice. I tried to go
as a journalist, but I was rejected twice.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
They usually, and we're always having ongoing conversations with the
Cubans to try to go over there, but the two
times I tried to go, I was rejected. Usually they
don't like Cuban American journalists, especially Cuban American journalists who
grew up in Miami. It's very sensitive and that those
those are their rules. My parents have never never gone back.
We still have family there. My entire life. We have
(36:58):
supported family on the island. Is incredibly sad. People have
no idea of how sad it is in Cuba and
what it once was until you study it. But it's
something that you know to understand. Dan, like my entire life.
My parents toasted every New Year's next year in Havana,
my entire life, and they'll never go back. They probably
will never go back. They're in their seventies now and
they probably will never go back. And it's incredibly sad,
(37:21):
and I pray for the people there, and I covered
as much as I can.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Tom Yamas is the anchor, the managing editor the nightly news.
Most dangerous setting you've been in.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Uh, There's been a few, right, because there's there's dangerous
settings when you are in extreme weather. Hurricane Katrina physically
knocked me down, whereas you're standing up and the wind
was so strong where you were in Mississippi physically knocked
me down. I've been in Israel, in Ukraine in situations
where you know, the raids go off and you're looking
(37:53):
out of your window and you're seeing missiles fly into
Tel Aviv and you're seeing the Iron Dome intercepted and
it's the craziest thing that you're witnessing because you're safe,
but you're not really safe because if if the Iron
Dome doesn't work, that missile lands. And I'd say those
types of situations, I mean in local news, there was
there was a lot of extreme weather, but also crime
(38:14):
scenes that sometimes you get to this scene faster than
the cops do sometimes, and that's not not a great
place to be. I'll give you a good a good story.
So when I was a young reporter in Miami, he
was my first local news gig. Katrina was the big hurricane,
and I had sort of you know, i'd worked, I'd
done a couple of hurricanes, I'd sort of proven myself,
but I was still very green. And we were getting
(38:37):
deployed to Mississippi and we were gonna work for NBC
News and the local station to be TVJ, And so
I said, oh, my uncle has got a house in
past Christian and I'm sure we could get great shots.
You know, we could. We could cover the hurricane as
it rolls in. And my photographer, who was really experienced
guy covered a lot of hurricanes, he goes, look, man,
this thing's a Cat four, cat five. He goes, your
(38:58):
uncle's house in the water. That's not a safe No,
trust me, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be great.
To this day, they have not found that house to
this day. And thank god I listened to him. We
were way inland covering the storm. We were still able
to get everything. But yeah, there's things like that all
the time. And then there's there's people on our team
like Richard Engel and Keir Simmons and Raf Sanchez and
(39:19):
Matt Bradley that are in war zones constantly, and they're
one of the reasons why I think NBC News still
separates itself. There's a lot of conversations about legacy media
versus new media and whatever you want to call it.
What I know is that our people, our teams are
in there on the front lines day and day out,
and they've been doing it for decades.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Competition with other news anchors, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Yeah, oh, you know, in everything weightlifting and I'm joking,
could you take David Mira, I mean arm wrestling. He's
got some big guns, but he's a he's a good
friend and I worked there. I learned a lot from
him and at ABC.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
But he really likes his hair.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
He's got good hair.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
He's got good hair. He does he's got good hair.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
But he's a good guide too. And yeah, it's it's
incredibly competitive, and I don't think you get here unless
you want to compete. Journalism to me, it's obviously about
your viewers, and it's about your your readers and your listeners,
and you got to make sure you get the story right.
But but you don't want to do anything mediocre. You
want to be the best at what you do. And
so yeah, it's still highly competitive, and it's not it's
(40:22):
it doesn't it doesn't drive us, but it's important to
me because I think you want to put on the
best show every night.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Sports fans can be pretty rough.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
Sports. Oh my god. If you if you read a
sports story and there's a stat that's wrong, it could
be like four hundred and forty wins and you say
four forty one. I mean, you're gonna get emails, your
Twitter is gonna light up. But it's interesting because sports.
We're covering sports more and more in news, and I
think it's a good thing. You know, I actually think
(40:50):
it's a good thing because there's some incredible drama happening
in sports and people are tuning into live events, live
sports events like they never have before. And so to me,
that that is an news event.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
In some cases, sometimes we'll look at the nightly news
and you'll see the crossover story. Yeah, like Caitlin Clark huge.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
We've been all over it, and I'll tell you why,
because every time I mentioned Caitlyn Clark to someone, they
have an opinion. And a lot of women have opinions
about Caitlin Clark. And it's a story that's sort of
driving a lot of emotion and interest. And one of
the best things about the last incident that happened that
I noticed right off the bat was you look at
(41:28):
the sort of scuffle and the pushing down and the refs,
but you look at that arena and it was packed
and everyone was on their feet, and it's like the
WNBA is generating an excitement like it never has before.
It's not just Caitlin Clark, it's all the other great players,
Angel Rees and everybody else. I mean, it has a
moment now now. Whether the refs have to catch up,
(41:48):
we'll find out. But I love that we're like sort
of at the beginning of sort of this transition I
think for the league.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
But how do you decide when that sports story crosses over?
Speaker 5 (42:00):
I think when there's a visceral moment. I think when
there's a story that's gonna hit you here or here
that's gonna sort of resonate with our viewers. We've done
a few baseball stories. I'll give you a good example.
The Yankees out called up a catcher that had been
a Miami Uber driver, human American guy, and uh, that
(42:20):
story was incredible because he had a guy who just
last year was driving an Uber and now he's backing
up Austin Wells on the New York Yankees and he's
playing great. And I think stories like that touch people,
and so those are the kind of stories we want
to be in. And then the Olympics, there's just there's
so much drama on the Olympics because you have people
who compete their entire lives and they're either gonna meddle
(42:42):
or they're gonna lose and and that, and that's a
tough moment. And I saw it, uh just recently in Paris,
we were covering Greco Roman Wrestling and there was a
wrestler from maybe he was Kazakhstan and he had just
lost and he's just a big, tough guy and he
walks out to the press line he does like an interview,
(43:03):
and he just collapses and starts crying like a child.
And when I tell you, this guy was tough. I
mean cauliflower, E're just you know, muscles. It was just
like wow, like you know, like you just can't believe it.
But that's the drama that happens with the Olympics, especially
for different countries where that is their ultimate sport.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Is it required mandatory that you have to have a
feel good story at the end of the news.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
You know, we want to leave people with something good
because we're going to hit them with a lot because
the world is tough. And then I could go granular
on it. The research has shown that the viewers like it.
They love there's good News tonight, that segment we do
at the end. So if our viewers like it, we
like it because at the end of the day, and
I say this, I drill this into our staff, we
(43:46):
work for the viewer. If you go in there and
you think it's about us, or you think it's about
NBC News, you're going to lose people. At the end
of the day. You got to remember you're working for them,
and if you do that, usually get the journalism right.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
But they're required to say tom and then they go
into their report when you throw it out to the
White House and then they throw it back and they go, Tom, No,
it's you know, there's there's just like it's required, there's
no requirement, but like it.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
But what your what you what you want to do
is you want to make a conversational. I mean you
know this, I mean you want to make a conversational.
You don't want it. You don't want it. You don't
want people to think that they're watching something else to
take them out of it, that it feels fake or
it feels not real or authentic. And I think it's
what we try to create is just hey, look, I
know I know Peter Alexander, I know Gabe Gutias at
(44:31):
the White House and we're having a conversation.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
But you can call for a camera crew right now
if you wanted to. Yeah, no, I have some questions
about you. And so we got it. We got a
couple of people outside, including Keith Morrison. Oh and so
oh yeah it's a new dateline. Yeah. We've had Keith
Morrison on a couple of times.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
He's amazing, he's one of the he's the goat, but
he he didn't understand why he's so popular, Keith.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Everyone loves it, but he goes, I don't know why
you're having me on And I go, you don't. He goes, no,
My daughter said, you're talking about me. And I don't know,
but Bill Hater doing his impersonation.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
But even and it's funny because this whole, like a
lot of the audience now knows Keith from Dateline, Keith
before Dayline, built an incredible career as a broadcaster and
a reporter. I covered a hurricane with him early in
my career when I was local and he was network
and I'll never forget he got into the satellite truck
and he whipped out a pencil and he just starts
writing like long hand his script, I mean, old school,
(45:31):
and I was just like in awe of this guy,
the way he was working. It was just amazing.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
At pesky DNA. Yeah, DNA, congrats, thank you, good luck,
Thank you Dan, and uh we'll be watching.
Speaker 5 (45:45):
Yeah. And you've opened my eyes here with this studio
with your team here.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Yeah, this is pretty good man.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
I thought I had it good. This is really good.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I could I could see maybe you hosting this show.
One we could do.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
Oh all right, Dan, you let me know how about
swap we want to do news? I don't know. I
always I always love when they do that though, when
they when they would do that, you know, when they
would swap sportscasters and but sometimes they bring something. It's
it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Sometimes. I would never want to do news ever. No no, no,
no no no. I can interview anybody, but I wouldn't
want to do the heart I wouldn't want to do
that on a nightly basis because you know, those first
five stories, we may not have good news in there.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Yeah, oh no, A lot of times you don't. It's
it's a tough part, guys.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I'm talking about the thunder better win Sunday night. Yeah,
talking about Iran, Iran. It's a little different time. I'm
doing okay, Yeah, you're doing okay. He is the big
cheese now NBC Nightly News, taking over for Lester Holt.
What a great man, great man, Great are the best?
Great Man. Tom Yamas is the anchor and managing editor
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