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June 23, 2025 41 mins

Dan Patrick is joined by Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix to talk about the Oklahoma City Thunder winning the 2025 NBA Finals, and how the league's offseason will shape up. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final Hour on this Monday, Dan and the Dan That's
Dan Patrick Show. More of your phone calls, best and
worst of the weekend, Minister of Humor, Fritzie Seaton, Marv Pauliers,
truly in the brgs, the back room, guys, Congratulations to
the Oklahoma City Thunder. It's almost like, Okay, you won
your title. Now we want to talk about the other things.
The draft is coming up Wednesday. How about Durant with Houston?

(00:27):
Is Gianni's going to be traded? You give the flowers
to oksee, they deserve it. They did everything that you
want in a championship team. They won their game, sevens
that they had. They had the best player in the sport.
He came up big just about every game he played big.
Previous game did not, but came back like a true
MVP and a team effort. I know it wasn't exciting.

(00:51):
You didn't have star power there. We love to have
our stars. You didn't have it. It's like going to
see a great movie or a great Broadway play and
somebody says, well, who's in it?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Nobody really know? Was it good?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, it was really good.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I think we're going to remember this NBA Finals though
for Tyrese Haliburton, SGA was wonderful, but I think we're
going to remember Tyrese Haliburton what happened in Game one,
the injury, coming back playing, and then last night trying
to play, start out well and then ends up blowing
out his hamstring.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yes, Marvin, if the Oklahoma City Thunder had stars, would
we look at them as one of the greatest teams
ever they won sixty eight games.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I think it would help because then it kind of
validates when you're making your argument. You know, you can
go back to what the Four Pistons when they won,
but I don't know if they had star power, you
were like, yeah, they were really good. Okay, give me
their best players. Like that's how you make your argument.
It feels like when you go they had and McHale

(02:01):
and Parrish and DJ and Walton, and they had magic
and they worthy in Kareem and Coop and Scott, then
it feels like, Okay, I got it. Those are great teams. Yes, yes,
marm the Four Pissons.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
The most famous person might be the head coach. Larry
Brown was the head coach so just like a coronation.
Other than that, they had a bunch of haul of
very good guys.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, yeah, but I do think, you know, it's star power.
Just about everything that we attach to greatness is do
we know who you are or you're on the cusp
of being something great? And I think Sga, you know,
I said that he was efficiently brilliant. There's no highlight really,

(02:45):
he just he's a bucket. He's you know, I'm not
going to say unstoppable, but he's pretty close to it.
He gets what he wants to get when he wants
to get it, and that's the mark of a great player.
And he came up big when you wanted him to.
But I think in ten years from now, will look
back and it'll be about Tyrese Halibert. Yeah, Poling and
the Thunder. It goes back to like the San Antonio Spurs. Yeah,

(03:06):
they weren't a lot of famous people, not a lot
of entertainment value.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
But if you win like two.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
In three years or back to back or three and
six years, you force America to get to know your names.
Even you know, Draymond Green, he became famous not because
he's this best player on earth. A very good player,
but constantly in the finals and make you hard to ignore.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Well when you win.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Sometimes when you win more frequently, then we attach greatness
to you. If Draymond Green played for Cleveland or Sacramento,
nobody would really care. Now you'd be like, oh, that guy,
he's a pest. Now he's a really good defender. But
you know, he wouldn't have any He wouldn't be a
Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
But he didn't.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
He did all the things that that team needed him
to do. And by proxy, you're you know, by being
a champion multiple times, now you're a Hall of Famer.
That's what helps play for winning teams. You get recognized.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yes, Mark, so to thunder have to win another championship
in order for us to remember them in ten years.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Probably.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I think if you go back to back, you get
people's attention. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
And look, I know this sounds oh, we just want
a title. Why are you guys piling on? I'm just
giving you my view, Okay, I don't play to the local.
It doesn't matter. I picked Indiana to win. But if
you know, even if Indiana won, we might be doing
the same thing today. Just to be fair to the

(04:37):
situation I watched. I didn't care what the ratings were.
If other shows didn't want to cover this, that's on them.
It's that you have your own show, you have your
own interpretation of what you want on your show, and
we've you.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Know, picked out.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
You know, we've been sparingly covering other things, but also
the NBA finals. Same with this Stanley Cup final. You know,
I'm I'm trying to find interesting things in these games
or players or an interview.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's no different than any other sport. Yes, Mark, and I.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Think the big difference, going back to the four Pistons,
it's who they beat. They beat a Shaq and Kobe
Lakers team. The Thunder beat a team with less star
power than they did, you know, so it makes it
even less memorable.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, no, it's fair, it's fair.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
But congratulations to the Oklahoma City Thunder winning sorry Thunder.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
When we got the halftime last night, I started thinking
about if it goes the other way, because they have
a one point lead to Pacers. If somehow Oklahoma City
loses that game and we're talking about the Pacers today,
I don't know what level of all time upset that is,
but I think it's all time, all time.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yes' because OKAC was one of the biggest favorites in
the history of the NBA. Make the segue to Chris Manning,
Sports Illustrated senior writer. He's at the airport, ok See.
He was there covering the game last night. Chris, thanks
for joining us. What was your gut feeling prior to
tip off last night?

Speaker 3 (06:03):
The gut feeling, I would say was.

Speaker 7 (06:08):
A game could have played out one of two ways.
There was a sense that Oklahoma City could just boat
race Indiana. The Pacers left it all on the floor
in game six. I mean, they expended a lot of
energy and it's really hard to do that two games
in a row, especially when that second game is on

(06:30):
the road in a building that has a ton of
juice to it. The other potential outcome was another miraculous
Indiana you know, fourth quarter comeback where they pull out
a very narrow victory. So going into that game, there
was really that was the sense that there were two
outcomes that there could be.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Obviously, when Haliburton goes down, you don't know how Indiana
is going to react to that. But the sense in
the building was what at that point.

Speaker 7 (07:02):
I've never experienced anything like that in all my years
of covering basketball, where there is so much energy in
the building for a game and in the first quarter
of a game, and then to have that energy completely
taken out of the building, the air taken out of
the balloon.

Speaker 8 (07:22):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (07:22):
You know, it was in that moment everybody in that
building realized the significance of what had just happened. You know,
from the fans and the coaches, to the players, to
the media. You knew right then and there that that
something really.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Bad had happened.

Speaker 7 (07:38):
Based on the reaction of Halliburton, how the Thunder players reacted,
how quickly all the Pacers players got on the floor
to to circle him.

Speaker 9 (07:48):
It was.

Speaker 7 (07:48):
It was strange, like just a It was pandemonium in
one moment, and then it was eerily silent in the
next because everybody just knew that that we've just seen
something pretty horrible on the floor.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Fifteen twenty years from now, we'll look back on this
NBA Finals and we will remember what.

Speaker 7 (08:08):
Oh, I think up the top, you probably remember the
Halliburton injury. It's like it takes nothing away from Oklahoma
City and what it accomplished. I mean, and look Halliburton.
No Halliburton, you know, holding Indiana to forty three points
in the second half, winning the third quarter thirty four

(08:28):
to twenty, you know, putting their stamp on the game.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I mean, that was that's how you win.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
Like that is that was a statement second half, specifically
that that third quarter by Oklahoma City. But it's going
to be one of the great what if not just
because Halliburton got hurt Dan, but Halliburton was he was
cooking in that moment. He was three or five from
the floor, three or four.

Speaker 10 (08:49):
From three point range.

Speaker 7 (08:51):
I mean, he was playing great basketball. I just I
think when we look back on this and look at
that series, you I say, wow, six ultra competitive games.
What might have happened in Game seven if Tyree's taliburn
on the floor, had the guy that offered this this
incredible postseason story, one of the greatest postseason stories we've

(09:11):
ever seen. With the shots that he was making, could
he have done it one more time in Game seven?

Speaker 3 (09:16):
The finals?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
The future of OKAC we like to look at, hey,
is this the embryonic stages of a dynasty? Although there's
a whole lot of competition out west, So what's the
future immediate future with OKC.

Speaker 7 (09:31):
I mean, I'm like a year removed from writing about
the Celtics dynasty that was about to start, So god
knows what could happen. You know, really we're just like
one year ago today we were talking about the age
of Brown and Tatum and you know, Drew Holliday still
in his prime.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
For zingis Derek White, Like who is going to beat
these guys?

Speaker 11 (09:50):
Like?

Speaker 7 (09:51):
And now the Celtics are looking at, you know, at
least a one year gap year and maybe longer. I
do think though dan oc Aloma City is uniquely equipped
to have some.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Longevity for two reasons.

Speaker 7 (10:05):
One, there's gonna be organic growth there.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Like you look at this team.

Speaker 7 (10:11):
Like most of the guys are twenty seven and under,
and guys like Chet Holmgren, Jalen Williams, Aaron Wiggins off
the bench, They've got another level they can go to
just through organic growth. I mean, I was talking to
someone close to Chet last night and they were like,
he's gonna be in the weight room all summer, Like
he's going to get stronger this summer. He's going to
come back a better player. So I think there's there's

(10:32):
room organically for them to grow and look. One of
the things that's prevented some of these recent champions from
becoming the quote dynasties has been that they haven't had
the replacement players when some of their veterans have priced
out under these new cap rules, they haven't had guys
right a step that. It's what's stop Milwaukee from getting

(10:54):
there again.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Denver.

Speaker 7 (10:56):
We know that as they've lost talent, other guys have
not stepped up. Oklahoma City is different though, Like Okoma City.
I mean, they have a kid named Nicola Topich who
was their lottery pick last year, a guy that would
have been inside the top ten had he been healthy.
He was out all year with a knee injury. When
I talk to people in Oklahoma City about him, like
he's gonna be in the rotation next year, Like he's

(11:16):
a six to six point guard that you know, has
one of those dynamic European games.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
They've got something.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
Like seven first round draft picks in the next four drafts.
The point is they're not going to they could. They're
more less likely to fall into that situation where when
they lose pricey veterans like a lou Dort for example,
they're not going to be able to replace them with
guys that are close to that level. That's why I
think this team, as much as any team over the

(11:44):
last six or seven years, has a chance to have
some longevity at the top.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Talking to Chris mannis Sports Illustrated senior writer joining us
from Oklahoma City. Of course, the other big news Kevin
Durant being traded to Houston. Now, what do his Houston
imposed on the rest of the NBA after this? You know,
how did they look or how do they feel after
this move.

Speaker 7 (12:06):
I think it's a great deal, and I think it
was always the deal that was going to happen. I
was reporting back in February that there was mutual interest
at the time between Durant and certainly people within the Rockets,
specifically Emo Udoka. But the Rockets were determined back then
to see what that young team had. To see if
Jalen Green could step up and become a you know,

(12:30):
a guy that could you could be trusted with the
ball in a playoff and had scenario.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
They wanted to see what that team had.

Speaker 7 (12:36):
They figured out it was lacking a player like Kevin Durant,
and they went out and got him. They didn't have
to give up a lot. I mean, look, they were
looking the part with Jalen Green anyway. You know, he
was no longer really a prospect to them. He was
kind of just a bad contract to them. Given the
tenth overall pick in the draft, that's whatever. You know,
draft of the five second round picks is really just

(12:58):
window dressing. That's not something that's all that consequential. And
you get a guy that, even at thirty seven years old,
is still one of the best scores in the NBA.
And you look at that team in the Golden State Series, Dan,
what were they missing? You know, a guy that could
get them a bucket in the fourth quarter can't always
be Alprin Sangoon, you know, with the ball in his
hands down the stretch, Kevin Durant's gonna help them a lot,

(13:20):
to the point where like, if I'm making up power
rankings of kind of who is Oklahoma City's biggest threat
next year, Houston is right there at the top one
or one A, with maybe a team like Denver as
the biggest threats to in the Western Conference to the thunder.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
What's the future of the Phoenix Suns?

Speaker 7 (13:40):
I mean, just making bad decisions over and over again
and not styling. What does that roster even look like
right now? Like you've got Jalen Green, Bradley Beale, and
Devin Booker. How does that work? Like who's sharing the
ball in that particular situation? Like I'd like to give
Phoenix the benefit of the doubt and think that maybe
they have another move left in. I mean people around

(14:01):
the league have been talking to me about that that,
Like there's no way, right you can have that you know,
backcourt or three person rotation going to next season. But
Bradney Beal is untradeable. There's no real market for Jalen Green.
They've said they're not gonna trade Devin Booker. So I
don't know what they're I don't really know what they're
trying to do.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Like the big the big win for the Rockets and all.

Speaker 7 (14:21):
This Dan is that they didn't have to give up
any of the Sun's draft capital that they own, so
that they can, you know, continue on their path of
trying to you know, win with the group that they
have while simultaneously rooting for, you know, the self destruction
of the Phoenix Sun. So in twenty twenty seven, twenty
twenty nine, they can have those draft picks and continue

(14:44):
to flesh out their roster. I just thought, I just
thought it was a big win for the Rockets and Phoenix.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know, they were out there, you.

Speaker 7 (14:51):
Know, trying to recoup close to what they got from
you know, for what they traded for Durant back a
few years ago.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Were laughed out of the room. You know.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
You know, San Antonio didn't really have any interest. They're
going big game hunting. You know, whenever, if and when
Jannis becomes available, Miami couldn't wasn't going to give.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Up any of its young pieces.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
I mean, we got to the point, Dan where like
Toronto wasn't going to part with Yaka Pearl, Like this
is where we are. Yaka Peartl, who was like the
throw in in the Kawhi Leonard deal years ago, was
a guy that Toronto was not going to give up
for Kevin Durant. I mean, Phoenix tried. I'll get him
credit for that, but you know, this was always how
I was gonna end.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
I don't think this makes them remotely better.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
The deeper we get into the summer, the odds for
Giannis to be traded or what.

Speaker 7 (15:40):
So my understanding with Giannis is that He's going to
sit back and see where the ships fall.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
In all this, it is notable to me.

Speaker 7 (15:51):
That the San Antonio Spurs hired Sean Sweeney to be
their associate head coach. Sean was very close with Yannis
in Milwaukee, who's Jason Kids top assistance, was over in
Europe all the time working with the honest He's a
credible coach alone, he's just worthy of a coaching bump
in San Antonio. But I did think it's notable they

(16:11):
bring someone like that in. But I think jannest is
going to see what Milwaukee's able to do over the
next week. The Bucks are trying like they're making every effort,
but they don't have a lot of draft capital to
work with. They don't have a ton of movable contracts.
They've got a conundrum with Brook Lopez, who's you know,
he's a free agent and it's going to be expensive

(16:33):
for them to bring back. I just think Giannis wants
to get to I read on Jeans will get to
mid to late July, early August and then see what's
out there for him if if the Bucks have done
something that might make him believe that they can compete
next year.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
I think he'll he's more inclined to stay.

Speaker 7 (16:50):
But if he's looking at a team that is going
to be fighting for a berth and to play in,
that's why I think things would get interesting.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Great to talk to you again, Save travels, Chris. Thanks
joining us, and you never called me anymore. Dan, I'll
become a Rich Eyesen guy.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
These days. Rich Eisen calls me. Glenn Patrick does not
call me.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Okay, you should have said to Rich Eyiesen, I'm Dan
Patrick's guy, and then we'd probably have a relationship. So
I'm gonna blame you because you are flirting with everybody
instead of being loyal to me.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
I am a very disloyal guy that I found that
in my life and I'll walk.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
But I'm back, baby, I'm back. Thank you, Chris, you
got it Dain. Chris Mannings, former friend of the show,
senior writer with Sports Illustrating. Well, take a break. More
of your phone calls best and worst to the weekend
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More phone calls as we always do every Monday. Best
and Worst of the weekend. What you saw that you
liked you didn't like? David in Ohio. David, thanks for
holding best and Worst of the weekend.

Speaker 13 (18:44):
Hey Dan, Happy Monday. Best of the weekend. This weekend,
I hit a golf ball for our gender reveal party.
We found out we're having a baby girl. And then
I shield a part of the face that with my
Cowboys fan mother in law that our daughter will see
a Steelers Super Bowl victory before the Cowboys and I

(19:07):
didn't know if you think that.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Was a good bet or not.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
All Right, the Steelers win a super Bowl before the
Cowboys do.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
It feels like a push. It looks like a push.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
I guess I would lean towards Pittsburgh, but I don't
know how much longer Mike Tomlin's going to be there,
like after this year. Now, you got to find your quarterback.
I don't know you're going to be in for the
long haul development quarterback Cowboys. I don't feel good about

(19:51):
that either. But you know, in large part because Philadelphia
is really good and so is Washington. So you start
there and maybe the Giants figure out, Uh, we can
get better. We can be a competitive team, a playoff
team maybe. But I don't have too much confidence in
either of those franchises right now. Mark and Tampa, Hi, Mark,

(20:13):
what's on your mind?

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Dan?

Speaker 9 (20:16):
I gotta talk. I gotta talk Ryder Cup.

Speaker 13 (20:18):
I mean, if I was watching the Ryder Cup, I.

Speaker 10 (20:21):
Had given him the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
But bully Tommy Fleetwood jump.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
That was a home crowd at the Travelers. Keegan Bradley,
thank you, Mark, Yes, that had a Wryder Cup tiede
feel and Kegan Bradley is the Ryder Cup captain. But
Tommy Fleetwood, he's made about forty million dollars in his career,
but he had a chance for your first win on

(20:48):
the PGA Tour and he should have should have won it. Yeah,
that was tough to watch. Chris and Sacramento. Hi, Chris,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 14 (20:59):
I shure taking my I have the best or worst?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
And a question.

Speaker 15 (21:03):
Okay, the best of the weekend is the Indiana or
I should say the Oklahoma City under winning the worst
of the weekend Isyana Pacers with Tyrius Halliburton. But that's
that disgustus that close.

Speaker 14 (21:18):
But my question is I'm hearing on the twelve to
fifteen podcast that you might be coming to Tahoe for
an event up here, and I was wondering when that
event is and if you were going to have guests
available to come see you.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well, you mean a studio audience. We are going to
go to Tahoe for the American Century Golf Tournament, and
we were going to try to do shows Wednesday, Thursday
and Friday out there early in the morning though it's
six am, so call time is around four thirty in
the morning, and I'm not playing in the event. I

(21:58):
played it in and played in at a couple of times,
but I wanted the dan Nets to see Tahoe how
beautiful it is. It's a wonderful event and a lot
of big names will be out there, and we'll let
you know. I'm going to meet with NBC they put
the event on this Wednesday, and find out if we
can have people in in our studio audience.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I would like to, but I'll let you know.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
There's a couple of road trips that were that's one
that's going to happen in a couple of weeks. And
then we're hoping, since USC and Notre Dame may not
be playing one another in the immediate future, that we
were going to go to South Bend maybe for a
couple of days when Notre Dame hosts the USCI. Other
than that, those are just some of the events. And yes,

(22:44):
we're still trying to go to Iowa. I just have
to get a tie in with our sponsors. So there's
a lot more than me just wanting to go there.
It's getting sponsorship dollars so we can take everybody on
the road. We bring the entire show there. It's expensive,
but we would still like to do that. That's that's
my goal here Jeff and Illinois. Hi Jeff, what's on

(23:07):
your mind today?

Speaker 16 (23:09):
Well, after toudd's performance last.

Speaker 8 (23:12):
Week, I sent the show an email with a link
to the Merriam Webster rhyming Dictionary. Oh and I know,
I know he's more of an analog first digital guy,
so I'd be happy to send a physical copy as well.

Speaker 16 (23:25):
But I said a mock headline after last night's game, Well,
excuse me, no sirs, thunder avalanche berries Indiana.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Okay, so the yes sirs, the no sers, Okay, thank you, Jeff.
And we're still working on Fritzy and the ability to rhyme.
Maybe wait in a while, Yeah, it might be more
entertaining when you don't rhyme, considering what you think you're hearing.
That that word rhymes with that word and it's not

(23:58):
even close. Danny and I Hi Danny, what's on your
mind today?

Speaker 10 (24:03):
Man?

Speaker 9 (24:03):
I got I got a few things, Dan. How are
you doing today?

Speaker 12 (24:05):
Man?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I have spectacular?

Speaker 9 (24:08):
That's good. That's good.

Speaker 11 (24:09):
So I had the best and the worst, and I
had a question real quick, and I wanted to shout
out my main man Zach in Knoxville. But I so
my best of the My best of the weekend is
my Yankees finally getting out of their slump. My worst
of the weekend, Dan, I don't know if anybody noticed,
but every game in the finals, the Pacers wore their

(24:29):
yellow jerseys.

Speaker 9 (24:30):
They didn't switch it up at all.

Speaker 11 (24:32):
And my question was for you and the Dan ask
what's what's y'all's favorite all time NBA jersey?

Speaker 9 (24:39):
And what's your worst NBA jersey of all time?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Okay, thank you, Danny. Marvin, I'll start with you. You're
kind of the NBA jersey master.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
Easy for me.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
One seed, Larry Johnson Charlotte Horns jersey that heal is perfection,
the pinstripes.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
No no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
What do you got? What is that?

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Perry Ellis it was? Wasn't he the designer?

Speaker 9 (25:03):
He did?

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (25:04):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
I'd just say the best team.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
It might be a generational thing, because if you're my age,
the most coveted possession was a Charlotte Hornet's starter jacket
bar none, and that jersey coincided with.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
It, Todd, But do you have the worst NBA jersey?

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Marvin there's a Philadelphia seventy six ers jersey that was horror, awful,
horrible and awful altogether. It was a Sean Bradley era.
I gotta find it and maybe put it up on
a newsletter.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Todd, you got one for best.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I kind of like those old Nuggets ones with Dan
It's on stuff. It looked like different color of bricks,
like Super Breakout from.

Speaker 7 (25:44):
The old Atari game where he just had the white
mountains that had like a lot of different color of
bricks around it.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
And that's what it appeared to me.

Speaker 7 (25:49):
And the worst maybe those raptors with the giant dinosaur
was a very loud and kind of hideous to me.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
That big dinosaur that was Van Coot. What about Vancouver
those jerseys with the Grizzlies big Country Reeves, those were bad.
Seen you got a favorite jersey?

Speaker 17 (26:10):
This is the one that popped into my head first.
And I'm not really sure why, but I guess it's
because it's fairly recent. But in the Bradley Beal era,
Washington Wizards they had sort of a throwback jersey. They
say Washington across the front, and it's like it's red,
white and blue. It's got like a white stripe across
it is Washington Front. It's an awesome jersey, super clean,
it's perfect. I love it. My least favorite. I'm gonna

(26:35):
get in a lot of trouble for this, a lot
of trouble. But I don't really care for purple and
gold together as a color commedation.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
What team are you talking about?

Speaker 17 (26:48):
Huffman High School in South Amboy, New Jersey. They were
our rival high school, and I think that that has
bled over to any other team that I see that
has purple and gold.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I'm like, cool team colors. So the Lakers colors, well,
I didn't say that triggered you. Whoa whoa whoa whoa
whoa whoa whoa. I didn't say that name certainly felt like.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
That whoa whoa whoa whoa your words, not like Marvin
just sent me the Sean Bradley seventy six ers. Yeah,
that's like they started a jersey and they weren't sure
what they were going to do with it, so they
just had a little streak there of some stars and blue,
and yeah, that's that's not good, Paul, Best best and

(27:32):
worst uniform.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
I'll go best Those Golden State Warriors jerseys that said
the city back in the seventies, Nate Thurman and those guys.
I was just looking at some pictures seem very cool
and whenever they wear them it looks great.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
I would say worst.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
I think it's the Mutumbo Atlanta Hawks era come in
with Tumbo. It looked like the movie Alien. There's a
bird coming out of his stomach. They're horrendous and they
weren't that bad of a team. But you can't win
anything with jerseys.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
That bat mmmmmm oh yes, marm no, I just hit
him with them. That's a really good point.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Oh I thought you just noticed it and then you go.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Hmmm, no, No, you can't be a really good team
with a really bad uniform.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
But the Utah Jazz had some bad uniforms with stocked
in them alone, and they were pretty successful.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
If they had better uniforms, they would have won the title.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Mm hm oh the mountains, yes, because when you think
of jazz, you think of mountains.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well Utah, Yeah, when you think of Utah you think
of the mountains.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
But they did have the word jazz over a bunch
of snoke.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
That was the problem. They shouldn't have taken jazz correcked accurate.
Just leave it.

Speaker 17 (28:36):
Leave the jazz Lakers shouldn't be Lakers either. Well yeah,
taking the Lakers to a desert, I don't know, seems
odd to me.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
Dang, what's Lakers?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Mike in California? Hi, Mike, what's on your mind?

Speaker 13 (28:53):
Good morning, Dan.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Hey.

Speaker 18 (28:54):
In a couple of weeks, somebodies and I are gonna
go and have the trip of a lifetime play Spanish Bay, Spyglass,
and Pebble Beach. And I was wondering if you had
any restaurant suggestions.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Well, I thought the hotel at Spanish Bay was great,
the tap room at Pebble Beach awesome.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
And then in Carmel, gosh, do you remember.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
Buffalo Wild Wings Carmel.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
No, there's an Italian restaurant in Carmel that we went to.
I don't remember the name of it, but it was
really good. So I would say tap room at Pebble
just for the stories, you know, to say you had
lunch in the tap room. And then Spanish Bay is

(29:49):
really beautiful. I mean, there's so many.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Great restaurants out there, you can't go wrong. But I'm envious.

Speaker 9 (29:54):
Mike.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
That sounds good.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I went there on my sixtieth to Pebble and brought
some friends and brought a couple of my brothers and
we had a great time. Five consecutive days where it
was sunny. And even the caddies that we had, they said,
this never happens, five consecutive days, same weather, but it was.

(30:16):
They know how to do it, and it's beautiful. It's
you know, it takes a little bit of time to
get there, but it's.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Well worth it.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
But yeah, not sure what I'm going to do for
my seventieth, but I'm thinking, do I go back to
Pebble again and retrace our steps? It sounds like a
good time. Let me see Mike in La. Hi, Mike,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 17 (30:38):
Hey?

Speaker 15 (30:38):
Dan?

Speaker 10 (30:39):
Always enjoy you guys.

Speaker 19 (30:40):
You're the best six three buck eighty. I'll tell you. Look,
I was from seventy two years old, so we're about
the same thing. I think. The worst NBA Championships aeries
I ever saw, and it broke my heart in a
Lakers stand forever, was when the five six eighty three

(31:00):
eighty four six Ers just smoked the Lakers four games.
They're on Moses Bobby Jones Doc called well, Daryl, I
mean it was embarrassing. You remember that one. Yeah, oh,
I mean Moses could never Moses. Did he ever foll
out of the game. I don't think he did.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, that was the faux fox fo But they went
fifteen and one, so thank you, Mike. Yeah, seventy six
ers back then had some talent on that roster. You
felt like they left a couple of titles on the
table that they should have won more. But Moses one

(31:39):
of the most underrated players in the history of the NBA.
And he came out of high school and he went
to the ABA, and I just remember that he was
being recruited I think the University of Cincinnati. He went
there for a visit, and everybody knew Moses was probably.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Going to go to the ABA.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
And if you watched him play, he didn't do anything
with any kind of artistic achievement. It was just like
it didn't even feel like he could dunk, but he
got every rebound and he was just relentless. That's why

(32:19):
you know, I've talked about Angel Reese. She kind of
reminds me of Moses Malone. I don't think that she's
very skilled, but I think she's very determined, like she will,
she'll fight, she's aggressive, she just not doesn't have a
good shot. Although ESPN made a big deal that she
made a three pointer or the other this past weekend.
I thought they were going to break into programming that

(32:40):
she made a three pointer. I go, okay, But yeah,
she is kind of a Moses Malone type, relentless going
to the boards. But yeah, Moses was an interesting guy.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yes, yes, Marvin, he's got three MVP awards and he's
never up there as far as top ten, top fifteen.
He's hardly ever mentioned.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
You're right, You're right, And I had forgotten he had
three MVPs until you just told me.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
Yes, Paul, I just had the same reaction looking at
Basketball Reference. Three MVPs in five seasons. He led the
league in rebounds six out of seven years and let
him with like fifteen point three. And he had a
bunch of seasons where he averaged twenty five and a half,
twenty seven and a half, thirty one, twenty seven.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
That's another victim.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
Of if he were three years old, younger, just missing
that TV era.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
I guess it's his peak.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, but he wasn't exciting though, that's the that's the
thing he you know if you're looking at I mean,
Tim Duncan was far more exciting than Moses Malone.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
And Tim wasn't exactly a walking highlight.

Speaker 8 (33:45):
But.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Moses was just unique. They are just certain guys. You
look at him and you go, what does he do
really well? He just never gives up, never stopped. He
was relentless, but he wasn't a good shooter. He didn't
have range, but he would always end up. He's one
of those guys where you go he had how many
he had? Twenty eight?

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Dang?

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, Marvin maybe another victim of ring culture if he
had three, If he had three championship, yes, almost like Joker,
history might not be as kind to him if he
just walks away with one championship at three MVP awards.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
I don't think Joker wins another title. I think he's
got better chance winning another MVP, But I don't know.
It's just the you know, the West is it's so
fluid with these teams. They're younger teams Denver, and that's
why I was disappointed in Denver. I said, you missed
an opportunity here. You should have strengthened your bench because

(34:48):
you may not get this champion, another championship window again,
may not. Joel Murray gets banged up a lot. Michael
Porter Junior the third, I can't trust I like Aaron
Gordon a lot.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
You you got joker. They change coaches like you.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
They had it, they had an opportunity and they took Okay,
see to seven games.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
You weren't that far away?

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Go to one another title? Take a break, Last call
for phone calls, what we learn? What's in store tomorrow
after this? Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.
Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine
until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio,
and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at
FSR or stream us live on the Peacock Act. And

(35:32):
last call for phone calls, what we learn once in
store tomorrow after this. I think I was surprised the
Dan ats earlier where DraftKings sent me the NBA title odds,
it's the Thunder and then it's the Rockets. So the
Thunder of plus two thirty. The Rockets are now seven
plus seven fifty. They were plus twelve hundred before the

(35:53):
Kevin Durant trade. They have the second best odds to
win the title next year. MVP odds Joker and Shay
gilgis very close, neck and neck, and then after that
it's Giannis Luca and Anthony Edwards. Also the American League
MVP odds Aaron Judge is minus two thousand. That's a

(36:14):
big deal. That's a big margin over cal Rawley. Cal
Rawley of Seattle switch it in catcher is plus five
point fifty. Now by comparison, MVP odds in the National League,
shohe O Tani is minus five hundred. Pete Crow Armstrong
with the Cubs is second at plus six hundreds, so

(36:35):
that one's tighter. Obviously the Aaron Judge is not. But
here's something to keep in mind. Cal Rawley, plays for Seattle,
hit four home runs over the weekend, the first switch
hitter in the history of baseball with at least thirty
home runs by the All Star Brick first guy ever,
surpassing Mickey Mannele, Lance Berkman, Jose Ramirez. They all had

(36:59):
twenty nine home runs and he hit four over the weekend.
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Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yes, yes, Marvin, he got time off from his fake job. Well,
we don't talk about that, neither does he. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
He has a job that he shows up for but
it's not a real job. But then we're not supposed
to talk about that. He shows up and wear's the
uniform and doesn't really do a job. But he is
a part of the Gambling Podcast with Shayan Irving and
also the Dylan the graphics guy Scott in New York.
Hi Scott, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 10 (38:28):
Moran, Dan, how you doing?

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Oh wonderful?

Speaker 10 (38:30):
Yeah, I'm really kind of telled you guys picking on
my boy Marv here, my favorite Dan Dan allegedly, And
I remember reading this years ago. You and I are
the same age. Moses Malone had smaller hands. He had
a hard time home in the basketball for normal size. Yeah.
And I'll be honest with Marv here. You know, I
see him shoot the ball. I don't like his shot, okay,

(38:53):
kind of a flat trajectory. Yeah, but that shot does
go in. And I kind of think that Mark canow
shoot Golden Boy himselfie days.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Uh well, he might be able to outshoot me, giving
my condition, but on my worst day, I'm a better
shooter than Marvin on his best day.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Yes, Mark, you'll get no argument from me.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, yeah, you've seen it.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
That shot is yeah, no, it's for real. Yeah, don't
leave me open. But watch your mouth s gon shooter.
Yeah shoot.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
When you go into the inner city and you're playing
the playground and all of a sudden, you know, white
guy shows up, all they do, you'll hear shooter.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
And also the biggest compliment is if they call you
a somebody.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Grabbed key over here.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, I know they're always attached some white guy's name
to you.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Hey, get Keith van Horn over here. Who's got Matt
geiger Man biggest compliment? I know, I know, we don't
pick on you with your hands that much anymore, do we?

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Uh, not as much as earlier. Yeah, Seaton has these
bear claws though.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well, yeah, seedons got unbelievably large hands.

Speaker 17 (40:04):
Actually just affecting the way I typed out differently.

Speaker 5 (40:06):
I'm like, I got to get a bigger computer.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
All of a sudden, my hands just got massive, the
grips on my golf clubs. Yes, Paul with.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
The hands off policy with Martin.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Oh, okay, all right, Blue this day in sports history.

Speaker 6 (40:20):
All about this one. Nineteen seventeen, Babe Ruth and Ernie
Shore of the Red Sox combined for a no hitter.
Babe Ruth started the game, struck out the first batter,
got an argument with the umpire, was thrown.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
Out of the game. Ernie Shore replaces him and they
had a no hitter together. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
And nineteen ninety six, the great sprinter Michael Johnson broke
the world record in the two hundred. He ran in
nineteen point sixty six seconds.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Also on this state, in nineteen sixty three, Jimmy Pearsall,
who played for the Mets, hit his one hundredth career
home run. He ran around the bases backwards. Now he
didn't run third to second to first. He ran around backwards.
So which still.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Remember the movie was that fear strikes out Jimmy Pierson.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
They have explained why he decided to do that.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Now he's a.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Little different, Todd. What did I learn on today's award
nominated programs?

Speaker 7 (41:10):
Nobody Arenas's tattoos and jersey number of choices were influenced
by two of his all time favorites, Kobe and Penny Hardaware.

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