June 30, 2025 • 37 mins
DP reacts to LeBron James exercising his player option to stay with the Lakers next year. Which pro sports league is the hardest to go from worst to first? Sports betting reporter David Purdum breaks down the Malik Beasley investigation and gives his thoughts on how prop bets have led to a rise of players getting in trouble.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Big News Now. It might not sound like big news,
but it struck me as a little news ish. And
that's the Lakers with Lebron James. He opts in, and
I don't know if there was any real mystery that
would he not opt in, would he become a free agent?
Does he want to go someplace else? Keep in mind
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what he said on his podcast with Steve Nash that
it's really not about rings if you're going to look
at somebody's legacy or their greatness. And I thought it
was his way passive aggressively saying, hey, I'm not going
to catch Michael Jordan, but that doesn't mean I'm not
better than Michael Jordan. It was a passive aggressive comment.
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And if they counted the passive aggressive assist for Lebron James,
he probably have about five hundred more assist on his total.
Very passive aggressive, very good at being passive aggressive. Agent
Rich Paul said that Lebron knows the Lakers are building
for the future, but he also wants to compete for championships.
(01:08):
This is Rich Paul telling the athletic and the mothership
goes on to say, we understand the difficulty in winning
now while preparing for the future. We do want to
evaluate what's best for Lebron at this stage in his
life and career. He wants to make every season he
has left count and the Lakers understand them, and they're
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supportive and they want what's best for him. We're very
appreciative of the partnership we've had for eight years with
Genie Buss, Rob Polenka, and consider the Lakers as a
critical part of his career. Okay, this is all about
Luka Doncic. This is his team now. It's official. Lebron,
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hey got some nice parting gifts. I hope you enjoy
a farewell tour. You and Aaron Rodgers can have farewell tours.
You can play one more season with your son here.
But this is about the Lakers, not wanting to do
something drastic just for now. This is about building the future.
Is Austin Reeve's going to stay there? He turned down
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a contract extension. He's going to make more money, but
this will be the final year and they're going to
have to pay more money, and rightfully so, I mean,
he's been a bargain, a very good player.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Luca wants to have a big man. Who are you
going to get?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And the first thing I thought of is Lebron's staying
and look, he's still maybe a top ten player, certainly
top fifteen player. But they want to be in the
sweepstakes for Jannis. That's what struck me here is, Hey,
Milwaukee has traded a big man to Los Angeles before
and it worked out really well for the Lakers. Can
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they get Yannis? Would they be involved in that picture?
When you clear Lebron's salary fifty plus million off the books?
And I think that's what this is all about. It's
Luca's team. Lebron is there and there's going to be
a farewell tour. And you know, for everybody who said,
wait a minute, I thought Lebron's the GM. Maybe he
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was the GM five or six years ago, seven years ago,
not the GM. Now, now, what are you going to do?
Can you do something and you're still going to be competitive?
I mean, you can win upwards of fifty five games
this year, I think. But they right now, the Lakers
have the fifth best odds to win the title according
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to DraftKings. To win the Western Conference, they're up there,
but Houston's really good. Okay, see just won a title,
So you've got to start there. You're not on their level,
at least not right now, because those teams are young
and still hungry and they're deep. The Lakers are not.
But that doesn't mean with Luca. We've seen Luca take
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a team to the NBA Finals. Now you do have
Lebron and Reeves, you do have some pieces there. The
question is sort of what is reality? And in Los
Angeles Hollywood, you don't always deal in reality. Sometimes you're
like in La La Land.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Seet's see what I did?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Okay you guys, hey, come on show started to La
La Land. Thank you, thank you, thank you. See and
win totals, uh, not available yet of what the Lakers
win total prop bet would be, but uh, you know,
probably a fifty two to fifty three win team. But
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you know they bowed out against Minnesota early against a
younger team. Once again, you've got a factor in Minnesota
as well, because they're still a formidable team. But it
just struck me, as hey, what about Lebron And it
felt like the Lakers were saying, yeah, yeah, we're going
to pay him that money and keep his son on
the roster, and but this is Luca's team, and now
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what we do will be to incorporate what we think
will help Luca in the future. This is about the few,
It's not about now. Got to keep Lebron. He wants
to stay in La, all the business opportunities he has,
and you have your son there. But it feels like
this is the last year Lebron plays for the Lakers.
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Does he play another year someplace else? That's always the possibility. Yes, Buony.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
This reminds you of SEC football when you have a
really good senior quarterback, but you have a five star
recruit coming in and the five star recruit is wagging
the dog like Clemson back in the day. I saw
the quote by Rich Paul, I understood it. Obviously, you
want to do as much as you can in the
near future to build for the near future. But the
Lakers five months ago, yesterday or tomorrow, they traded for
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Luka Dacic, which establishes their current and future. In one
of the great swindles in recent basketball history. It's like
they forgot about this.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, that was building for the future, but it was
helping now by getting one of the top five players
in the world. But I don't know if Lebron sees
it that way. He knows it's Luca's team. Why make
this public? Can you make it public to put pressure
on the front office to do something here, or if
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the team's not that good, we told you to do something.
I'm just kind of surprised that rich Paul was going
to say this, you know, publicly, Yes, Mormon, rich.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Paul's treating the Lakers like they're the hornets, Like, are
you guys trying to compete? They're the Lakers. Of course
they're trying to compete. Why do you think they got Luca?
Just like PAULI said, that's stupid.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, but why would you say this publicly?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Don't do you think the front office doesn't realize, Hey Lebron,
don't forget about Lebron. Hey we gotta win championships. Hey,
it's about now. Don't you think you had that conversation
with them when you decided to opt in on that salary. Absolutely,
I would guess you would say to Rob Polenka, hey
he's gonna opt in, but you got to help him
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out a little bit here. I was just kind of
surprised that, Hey.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
This is about now. Too.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Don't forget about Lebron. This is about the future with Luca.
We get that, but I mean, what do you expect
them to do, like trade Austin Reeves and then you're
getting what they still need shooting? They need a big
man perimeter defense is I mean, there's some issues here
that it doesn't just solve it by And Lebron wasn't
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taking a discount. They said that right away. He's you know,
he's not giving you a hometown discount. Here just feels
like this is a strange comment to make the end
of June. This is still a good team. Are they
better than Denver? Better than Minnesota? They're not better than
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the Rockets, I don't think. And they're not better than OKC.
If you just start there now, you still have some
bottom feeders there in the West. But are they fifth seed?
Are they going to be better than Dallas? When Kyriez
comes back, that team might be better. Yeah, you know,
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I think if you're if you're I don't know. I'm
just trying to play devil's advocate, I guess. But if
you're an Aging Stars agent and you decide to give
it one more go, maybe just putting the emphasis even
though everybody knows it on you know, we don't have
a lot of time left and Lebron needs to win
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right now. So we know the Lakers are gonna carry
on long after Lebron James is finished, but he needs
to win right now, and that's where our focus is
on right now. You guys might be looking more to
the future, but we need to do this right now,
and that you know, I don't know that it's as
like maybe not sinister is the right word, but I
don't know that it's any deeper than like, you know,
this dude's only got maybe a year left here, so
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we got to win this year. I don't think there's
anything wrong with that. But do you think the front
office doesn't realize then I.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Don't know that.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
I think that the front office probably doesn't look at
it as crucially important this one year.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
As the guy who's like I might be done after this,
I only.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Got one year left, maybe two, whereas the Lakers see
themselves as a global brand and for hundreds of years.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
But if you're Lebron and here you're his agent, don't
you then say to the front office, are you guys
all in this year? And then if you're not. Hey,
we're building for the future. I mean, we're in and
we're all in. But with the pieces that we have
right now, they're waiting for Lebron's salary to be off
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the books. So that's the weird part of this.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Yeah, Seden, Well maybe it's setting up a you know,
I don't know mid season.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
It's saucy.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I don't see it happening because if you're Lebron, Let's say,
because he has a no trade you don't want to
go to a team. You're gonna weak by going to them,
and they have to give pieces to the Lakers. If
he was going to go, let's say he wanted to
go back to Cleveland. Now's when you go just say,
I'm going to go. Put me on that team and
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we're going to be the favorites in the East. We'll
be the favorites because the East is damaged right now.
You want to win another title, win a title in Cleveland,
you can do that. But I just think there's selfish reasons.
You want to stay in La. Your family's in LA
business opportunities, your son's playing for the team.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
You probably can't have it both ways there.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
But to me, this is really signaling that, yes, you're here,
we will compete this year, but then we have to
move on. There's a whole nother era that's going to start,
and maybe it started this weekend.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yes, Mart, if you're the Lakers, do you ask Rich
Paul flat out, hey, do you think Lebron has one
year left or two years left? Just so we can
get this show on the road. As far as pre
for the future with Luca as their.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Guy, well, did you do a one plus one or
is it just a one year deal? That might tell
you too with the Lakers that they may look at
this as a one year deal.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I mean, he's obviously still a.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Great player, and still a draw and still important, like
all of those things. I just think they're saying, that
guy's forty and that guy's twenty six, We're hitching our
wagon to him and come along for the ride. He
is the guy who's leading us, not you, yeampolling.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
It is ironic that if this were any other sport,
they would move on from Lebron James. If this or football,
they would have moved on from well before they were
into this situation. Even baseball, they try not to keep
older guys at the very very end. But the NFL
would never have this direction for a franchise.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Eight seven seven three DP show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com,
twitter handle at DP show. Got a gambling investigation, federal
investigation into one of the Detroit Pistons. We'll talk about
that at the prop bets, that's the key. Took away
prop bets from college football, college athletics, and they make
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a lot of money prop bets. But then, you know,
are players realizing they can make some money too, And
you know, we talked about this early this morning and
Fritzy goes, why would you do that? You know you're
already making a lot of money. He was ready to sign, easily,
ready to sign a three year, forty two million dollar deal.
(12:33):
Well you do it because you don't think he'll get caught.
If that's the case, If that's what happened in this situation.
You know John Kay Porter, Michael Porter Junior, the Third's brother,
he was hanging on. He was a fringe player and
probably saying, hey, you know what, I can help some friends.
Maybe I get a couple hundred thousand dollars out of
a day. You're not thinking, hey, why, hey, I could
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get caught. You're you. You don't think that way. You think, hey,
this is a great opportunity. Nobody will notice. I mean,
that's the great part of this for me is the NBA.
If it's true, they caught him, they found this, they
saw this. You know, Vegas polices, they have to police
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the sport. It's their business, multi billion dollar business. We
have to be aware of everything. But we'll have more
on this coming up next hour. But I don't care
how small you know that you think or nobody's going
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to notice me.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
They will. They have to.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It's like whenever you see something that looks strange, it
goes from this to this that Vegas knows this, they're
watching this. But Beasley is a nine year veteran. You
got some money. If it's true that you are shaving
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points or prop bets, they'll catch you. They'll find you.
They have to, it's their job, it's imperative. But for
these guys to go, nobody's gonna notice this little thing here, Hey,
over under rebounds is six and a half. Nobody will notice.
They have to notice because if you tell somebody, that
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person tells somebody that it's a game of telephone. After that, hey,
I got it. I got a tip. This happened to
me when I gambled. Somebody would say, hey, you know
what I'm hearing?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Then somebody would say and then all of a sudden,
by the time I got to the bed, it went
from six and a half to nine and a half.
Like it was like, Okay, something's up. And then the
bookies go, hey, we're going to react accordingly. And then
they take it off the the off the board. They're
gonna find you, They're gonna get you. And if that's
the case, and the Fed's involved in this, now this
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isn't the NBA, it's the Feds. We'll talk about that
coming up. All right, we'll get to phone calls eight
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Speaker 2 (15:52):
All Right, the NBA Free Agency month got underway this weekend,
and the biggest ish news is is going to stay
in Los Angeles. I don't know if anybody's surprised. I
think the surprising part was his agent, his representative, Rich Paul,
kind of making it, well, not kind of making it
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public of hey, Lebron wants to win. Now, we know
you're thinking about the future. The future is now for
Lebron James. I'm sure the front office really appreciated Rich
Paul going public with that and saying what didn't need
to be said. I think the front office is well
aware that this might be lebron last year, but he's
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going to opt in. He has no trade clause, and
I didn't know if it was going to be a
two year deal or a one plus, but by all
accounts it's a one year deal. And Rich Paul pointing
out to the Lakers that Lebron still wants to win.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
All right, poll question, Seaton, what do we have? Well,
we got two of them right now? We have up
there in which league is it toughest to go from
worst to first? And I only put up three right now.
I put up NBA, MLB and the NFL toughest to
go worst to first?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Major League Baseball is winning that one, okay, but I
think that's going to change.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
We also have to put up there.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
And this is a little bit of a topic, but
is there a term for a player who is neither
a bust nor a star that goes first overall? So
DeAndre Ayton, Yes, this is called the DeAndre Ayton poll.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Okay, because I think he's going to be a free agent.
He was number one pick, but he was also number
one pick in the draft that gave us Luca and Trey.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Young as well.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
But DeAndre Ayton, he went to the University of Arizona,
and the owner at the time, I think Robert Sarver thought,
let's keep the local talent in Arizona, not thinking that
maybe we get a generational Allen or.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
A worldwide talent.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But not everybody knew about Luca, and I mean, let's
be fair about this that I did watch. I watched
highlights of him in Europe, and I just thought that
he was barely getting by people, barely getting his shot off.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And then I realized that's what he does in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
He barely gets by you, barely gets his shot off,
but he does it every single time. Trey Young I
thought was going to be a thing. I thought that
he would be a guy who could be a specialist.
Turned out that he's a really good passer as well.
But DeAndre Ayton, I don't think he's bad enough to
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be a bust. But I don't think he's good enough
to be one of those guys that you look and
say he was worthy of the number one pick.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yes, Pauline.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
He's been in the league DeAndre Eton for seven years.
He averages about fourteen and ten.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
He's had.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
The best season was his second year. He averaged eighteen
to eleven. He has never made an All Star team
in seven years.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I don't think he's going to make it all now.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
So we know what we know about his career. Yes,
we need a term.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Disappointing that almost seems harsh unfulfilled.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, you could do that, like we're looking for one word.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Yeah, not a bust nor a star.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
Right.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah. Seen, when you.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Look at number one overall picks for years and years
and years surrounding that one, he's doing pretty well compared
to everybody else. He's significantly more successful than a lot
of dudes that went number one overall.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It's a lot of times it's just like Peyton Manning
and Ryan Leaf.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
You know that Ryan Leaf was viewed to bust.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
He was never gonna, you know, and it made it
worse because Peyton was one of the greats of all time.
So sometimes Sam Bouie not here fault, but he was
injury prone and you know, they ended up taking Sam
Buie in Portland.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Michael Jordan was in the draft.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So I think that has to do with how we
look at you of we could have had him, and
Ayton is serviceable. I could see him playing for the Lakers,
but I don't know if serviceable is I don't know, Hey,
how would you describe his talents serviceable.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Point also in that draft with DeAndre Ayton, Luca Trey Young,
as you said, SGA and Jalen Brunson were in that draft.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, yeah, that doesn't help in how we look at you.
But but if you said, hey, this guy's going to
average sixteen and ten for his career and he's the
number one overall pick, I'm good. If he was like
the eighth pick in the draft, you'd go, hey, wow,
all right, sixteen ten, that's good.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yes, Mark, See he needed to be in the Anthony
Bennett draft.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
There was nobody in that drift but good career by him.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, Caves.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Caves would have had a good guy, good player, sixteen
and ten, serviceable.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yes, you'll take it. I would.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I don't know what the ceiling was when you say unfulfilled.
Unfulfilled because he's the number one pick, or was he
a guy that people thought, man, this guy is going
to be I thought Jaron Jackson Junior the third was
going to be great, and and he's he's really good.
But I thought he was going to be great. That
he could play defense, offense, he could shoot, he had range, blockshot,
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you know, all those things. But he was in that
draft too, wasn't he Marvin Jaron Jackson Junior? The third
did he go like third was going?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So I don't know if we look at the ceiling
and then go and like how high is the ceiling
for DeAndre Aiden? And if he's that good, why is
he on the move again? Yes, Marvin, because he's just serviceable.
He's not a franchise changer. And I think that's the issue.
They were thinking about the old school days of the nineties.
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We need to dominate big man, and you had Trey
Young and Luca right there. But to your defense, nobody knew.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Luca, no, buddy. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
We need a comp in another sport, a player who
has taken number one overall, probably a quarterback who didn't
have a bad career, just never really paid off. Sam Bradford.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Serviceable.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
I don't think he made a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
He made a lot of money, Yes he did.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
So did DeAndre Aid. Yeah, that's Sam Bradford.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Might be it.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Because Jameis Winston's been a bit of a disappointment, but
he had some decent years. I'd say more of a
disappointment for Jamis as the number one pick, but.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Was any the first member of the thirty thirty club,
which you don't want to be. Oh, you don't want
to be in that thirty thirty.
Speaker 10 (23:05):
Yes. Yes.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Baseball doesn't really have this conversation because you don't know
anybody until it's like, all right, let's see if that
four hundred and fifty million dollars is worth it. That's
going to be tricky, But there aren't really busts or anything.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I mean when you think back and you go number
one pick in the draft, it's because the number one
pick normally doesn't go right into Major League Baseball.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
We get ten of these dudes in the NFL and
the NBA. We get a million of these dudes a year, don't.
You don't even have to be the number one overall pick.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
But we focus I think we focus on the number
one pick in hockey probably more than we do in baseball,
because it feels like those players are generational talent and
chances are they're going to be playing in the NHL
right away.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yes, boy one that stands out two thousand and nine,
we covered him a lot, Steven Strassburg out of San
Diego State. He was supposed to be in this last
twenty years. He was the most before Skeens, the most
publicized pitcher going into the league. He had a good
career one thirteen and sixty two. He made three All
Star teams, never won a cy Young.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Oh he did win over one hundred games.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
Yeah, I got him well.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
He pitched thirteen years, one hundred and thirteen wins. He
had a couple of good seasons with over fifteen wins
one thirteen and sixty two, three All Star peers.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I remember and I likened Stephen Strasburg to Jadavian Clowney
with the hype because I remember John Smoltz was talking
his first game he did in the minor leagues, Steven Strasberg.
I remember Smoltz was talking about they were had these
glowing reviews like he was the perfect pitcher. He was
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the perfect pitcher. Jadevion Clowney, Oh my gosh, we've never
seen this before. When the mother Ship went out to
his pro day and there's no perfect player. There are
times when we look at somebody and you can't miss, well,
you can miss. We've seen that happen, and Steven Strasburg
was just like Mark Pryor. Mark Pryor was the perfect
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pitcher now the Dodgers pitching coach. You had experts who
were looking at him in his form, everything about him,
it was great, he's going to be dominating. Well, he
wasn't overused with the Cubs with Carrie Wood and never
really reached that potential that people had for him. But
when it comes to number one pick in the draft
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in baseball, I don't think that we even remember, like
that guy was a ninth round draft and you know
Albert Poohols, what was he thirteenth round draft pickers and
you know, we just don't think about it that way,
or it feels like you're giving away the future of
your team because maybe you missed on the number one
pick in the draft in football or in basketball, that
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certainly is the feeling. Yes, Marvin, I don't.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Know much about hockey, but I do remember this name
when I was young, about him being.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
The next guy, Eric Lindros.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Yeah, I think he was number one pick over and
they talked about him like crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Well he had concussions and yeah, he wasn't able to
live up to the hype he was supposed to be,
like that's the new hockey player. He's big and he's fast, powerful.
Not quite l Mew, but that feeling of you know, wow,
he's different. Let's see John in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Hi John. Best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 10 (26:27):
Hi Dan, It's six one two twenty today. I'll start
with my best of the weekend. And I don't know
if you've seen this, but omegaball. I caught Omega ball.
It's fascinating. It's soccer played in a circle and it's
three teams every thirty three degrees on this circle, there's
a goal and you got fifteen guys going out there
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for the ball. Not a big soccer fan, but this
was really cool. If you get a chance to catch
some Omega ball on the Mothership, it's it's it's neat.
It's a smaller circle than a regular soccer pitch. But
I don't know if you've seen it, maybe Polly has,
but very very very cool. My worst of the weekend.
(27:12):
As I was wrapping up the weekend last night, I
caught some of the Air Guitar Championship air jam off
and these guys are dressed up in costumes, some like
the Ultimate Warrior. There was a Freddie Mercury in red.
There was and they're Air guitaring and it's a train wreck.
It's I couldn't take my eyes off of it, of course,
(27:34):
but I just I got the chills, you know, those
embarrassment chills that you get when somebody does something they're
so stupid.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
All right, Well, thank you, John. I would say you
probably need to get a life, John, just say maybe
you need to maybe a stream, maybe stream something. Yeah,
a lot of things to stream, thank you.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
I didn't see those events, but I did watch some
of the National Darts Championship this weekend, and the coverage.
Whatever you think of darts, the coverage is fantastic. They
know how to produce that show. It's the place is
going crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Backroom guys went, Yeah, Dylan Ray Bad, Larry I think
came up. They went it was Madison Square Garden. They
went to the Darts Championship. Let's see Steven la Hi, Steve,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (28:25):
Hey? Now, DP, Hey, hey, I just want to give
you a complimentary, complimentary comp You guys are the Howard
Stern of sports talk radio. So that's one thing that's
a great comp By the way, another nickname, I got
a nickname for you, Black Jesus Michael and I also
(28:49):
wanted to ask you when Friday, you guys were you
were talking about kind of being broke, not for but broke,
not having enough money when you were young. What was
the nicest thing for the first night thing you bought
when you started making money?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, we weren't poor growing up. We just didn't There
was certain things we didn't have. We were limited. How's
that six kids and we had one and a half
bathrooms and having two sisters and you just did you
just dealt with it. But I feel bad if I
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embarrassed my brothers and sisters by comments that I was making.
We just we didn't have things, that's all. But you
know we made us better workers. That's why we're all
pretty successful in what we do, you know, our different
walks of life. But no, we we just didn't have
that stocked refrigerator. And you know, you go to your
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friend's house and all of a sudden there's like twinkies
there and ding dongs and you get chocolate milk and wonderbread.
Like there's things that stand out when you go to
somebody else's house and that you know that happened. But
I just remember one Christmas went down the street and
(30:15):
this family. You couldn't walk, You couldn't walk on the
floor because the entire floor was full of gifts and
we got three gifts at Christmas. And even then it
didn't you weren't necessarily getting what you wanted. And uh
it always socks, always, you know, your stocking stuffer was
(30:39):
full of socks and underwear and you're like, okay, or
gloves and you're like, all right, you know, but hey,
no boohoo made us stronger.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
At the time, I was pissed, but uh, you know,
I learned. I learned to deal with it.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yes, marm It's like, did you go to your friend's
house to see name brand cereal?
Speaker 10 (31:02):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Yes, like whoa, yeah, fruit loops. We've been eating fruitios.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Uh yeah, you know that when there's soda in the
refrigerator and you're like, wait, can you just take that?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah? Do you want to take a coke? If you
want one?
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Damn?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
What is this?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
This exists?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And then you go home and then you say to
your mom, oh, I was over at Scott mckevitch's place
and his refrigerator is packed. Well, why don't you spend
more time over at Scott Mkevitch's.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Place, and I'd be like, okay, yes, you are more
reasonably asking for something like a can of soda.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
We would see like the new Atari video cartridge at
someone's house was something that was far more expensive, and
we'd throw a temper tantament so we got that.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh no, we I remember the greatest Christmas I ever had.
I was playing with a gift and then my mom
came down and she said, oh, that's your brothers. So
I had to give up the best gift I ever had,
and it was my brother. It wasn't for you, it
wasn't for me. No, And I'm like, God, this is great,
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and I think my mom mislabeled, and all of a sudden,
I'm like, dang, this is awesome, and all of a
sudden she goes, oh, Danny, that's for Bill.
Speaker 10 (32:22):
What what?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Once again?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
It made me stronger, made me stronger, I'm stronger, all right.
When we come back, we'll talk some gambling and the
FBI or there's a there's an investigation, a federal investigation
into a member of the NBA's Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine Am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
David Purdham covers gambling for ESPN and these story is
Malik Beasley of the Pistons. There's an FBI probe with him. Well,
David joins us, Now, what exactly is Beasley accused of doing?
Speaker 10 (33:12):
So?
Speaker 11 (33:13):
Federal authorities are investigating him on allegations of gambling on
the NBA related to games and prop bets. That's according
to his attorney. So exactly the details of which games
of what went down with him are still unknown at
this time. But he is the third NBA player in
just the last eighteen months to be reportedly under investigation
(33:35):
by the FEDS for betting allegations, and NIA joints John
say Border and Terry Rochere.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Okay, this is different than the NBA investigating what happens
when there's a federal probe? How do they investigate as
opposed to what the NBA would do.
Speaker 11 (33:49):
Well, this all started back again with the johns Porter thing,
and they subpoenaed some of the sports books for betting
records for individuals that they suspected may have been involved.
And so my working premise is that they probably had
those subpoena records, the betting records, went through and see
what some of the unusual betting activity on some of
these other games. So they're working through everything right now,
(34:13):
communicating with the sports books, the attorneys, and so forth
to see where it goes.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Okay, but give us a red flag.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Give us what happens when all of a sudden somebody goes,
wait a minute, something suspicious.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
That's a great question.
Speaker 11 (34:28):
And when bookmakers really are convinced that something is untoward
is going on is when they move the odds right.
So a prop bet maybe over under two and a
half for rebounds or whatever, and instead of moving you know,
up to four and a half to'll adjust the big
on if you want to bet the over, it may
be minus two hundred. When they bet just the odds,
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and the betters don't stop betting it and just keep
betting it even though these odds have moved against them,
it is a major red flag. In flag, some bookmakers
will tell me they will do it intentionally, moving overly aggressive,
move these odds so crazy that nobody that was really
trying to bet it seriously would keep betting. And yet
(35:10):
people do keep betting it and then they know something's
going on.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
How dangerous are prop bets since an individual can control
a lot of what his numbers are.
Speaker 11 (35:21):
Yeah, certainly they are more easily to be manipulated than
a full game if you just have a player that's
over under on rebounds or three pointers made or points.
That's what happened with the Johntay border situation. There was
all these bets on unders on his statistics. Then he
had took himself out of the game within minutes and
so all the unders hit. So partly excuse me. Prop
(35:45):
bets definitely are a concern. There's a debate to be
had whether we should be offering in the regulated market
prop bets on all these individual players.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Well, I know that college took away the prop bets,
or you know, they took away prop bets on college athletes.
Speaker 11 (36:02):
Correct some of the states that Vegas has not about.
I think there's about eighteen states that now prohibit individual
player props on college athletes.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, because you know that's tricky when you're a college
kid and you know what happens here. David I mentioned
this that these guys probably thinking nobody's going to notice this.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Hey, I'm gonna do this, nobody will notice.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Well, Vegas has to notice this, like they have, Like
it's imperative that they notice these things. And anybody out
there who thinks nobody is going to notice if I
do just this or this and I play for this team,
nobody follows, you know, University of Alabama, Birmingham, they do.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
They have to.
Speaker 11 (36:47):
You're right one hundred percent, and you'll hear people go
the sportsbooks are no. The sportsbooks are the ones that
lose when these bets are not on the up and up.
They're the ones that detect it. So you're absolutely right
there things. There's what's the saying, you know, two people
can keep a secret. If it gets past there, it's over.
Greed starts to get involved. Hey, I made a little
(37:08):
money here from keeping it quiet. Let me tell my buddy,
he makes a little bit money. All of a sudden,
there's this flood of money coming in on these random
games that people are like, where is this coming from?
So it does to get detected.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
NBA hasn't responded yet to Malik Beasley. That's correct.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
They said they are cooperating with the federal investigation.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Good to talk to you again, David, it won't be
the last time I talked to you, that's sure.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
David Purdham
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio the.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Big News Now. It might not sound like big news,
but it struck me as a little news ish. And
that's the Lakers with Lebron James. He opts in, and
I don't know if there was any real mystery that
would he not opt in, would he become a free agent?
Does he want to go someplace else? Keep in mind
(00:25):
what he said on his podcast with Steve Nash that
it's really not about rings if you're going to look
at somebody's legacy or their greatness. And I thought it
was his way passive aggressively saying, hey, I'm not going
to catch Michael Jordan, but that doesn't mean I'm not
better than Michael Jordan. It was a passive aggressive comment.
(00:45):
And if they counted the passive aggressive assist for Lebron James,
he probably have about five hundred more assist on his total.
Very passive aggressive, very good at being passive aggressive. Agent
Rich Paul said that Lebron knows the Lakers are building
for the future, but he also wants to compete for championships.
(01:08):
This is Rich Paul telling the athletic and the mothership
goes on to say, we understand the difficulty in winning
now while preparing for the future. We do want to
evaluate what's best for Lebron at this stage in his
life and career. He wants to make every season he
has left count and the Lakers understand them, and they're
(01:28):
supportive and they want what's best for him. We're very
appreciative of the partnership we've had for eight years with
Genie Buss, Rob Polenka, and consider the Lakers as a
critical part of his career. Okay, this is all about
Luka Doncic. This is his team now. It's official. Lebron,
(01:48):
hey got some nice parting gifts. I hope you enjoy
a farewell tour. You and Aaron Rodgers can have farewell tours.
You can play one more season with your son here.
But this is about the Lakers, not wanting to do
something drastic just for now. This is about building the future.
Is Austin Reeve's going to stay there? He turned down
(02:09):
a contract extension. He's going to make more money, but
this will be the final year and they're going to
have to pay more money, and rightfully so, I mean,
he's been a bargain, a very good player.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Luca wants to have a big man. Who are you
going to get?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And the first thing I thought of is Lebron's staying
and look, he's still maybe a top ten player, certainly
top fifteen player. But they want to be in the
sweepstakes for Jannis. That's what struck me here is, Hey,
Milwaukee has traded a big man to Los Angeles before
and it worked out really well for the Lakers. Can
(02:46):
they get Yannis? Would they be involved in that picture?
When you clear Lebron's salary fifty plus million off the books?
And I think that's what this is all about. It's
Luca's team. Lebron is there and there's going to be
a farewell tour. And you know, for everybody who said,
wait a minute, I thought Lebron's the GM. Maybe he
(03:06):
was the GM five or six years ago, seven years ago,
not the GM. Now, now, what are you going to do?
Can you do something and you're still going to be competitive?
I mean, you can win upwards of fifty five games
this year, I think. But they right now, the Lakers
have the fifth best odds to win the title according
(03:27):
to DraftKings. To win the Western Conference, they're up there,
but Houston's really good. Okay, see just won a title,
So you've got to start there. You're not on their level,
at least not right now, because those teams are young
and still hungry and they're deep. The Lakers are not.
But that doesn't mean with Luca. We've seen Luca take
(03:50):
a team to the NBA Finals. Now you do have
Lebron and Reeves, you do have some pieces there. The
question is sort of what is reality? And in Los
Angeles Hollywood, you don't always deal in reality. Sometimes you're
like in La La Land.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Seet's see what I did?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Okay you guys, hey, come on show started to La
La Land. Thank you, thank you, thank you. See and
win totals, uh, not available yet of what the Lakers
win total prop bet would be, but uh, you know,
probably a fifty two to fifty three win team. But
(04:32):
you know they bowed out against Minnesota early against a
younger team. Once again, you've got a factor in Minnesota
as well, because they're still a formidable team. But it
just struck me, as hey, what about Lebron And it
felt like the Lakers were saying, yeah, yeah, we're going
to pay him that money and keep his son on
the roster, and but this is Luca's team, and now
(04:52):
what we do will be to incorporate what we think
will help Luca in the future. This is about the few,
It's not about now. Got to keep Lebron. He wants
to stay in La, all the business opportunities he has,
and you have your son there. But it feels like
this is the last year Lebron plays for the Lakers.
(05:15):
Does he play another year someplace else? That's always the possibility. Yes, Buony.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
This reminds you of SEC football when you have a
really good senior quarterback, but you have a five star
recruit coming in and the five star recruit is wagging
the dog like Clemson back in the day. I saw
the quote by Rich Paul, I understood it. Obviously, you
want to do as much as you can in the
near future to build for the near future. But the
Lakers five months ago, yesterday or tomorrow, they traded for
(05:45):
Luka Dacic, which establishes their current and future. In one
of the great swindles in recent basketball history. It's like
they forgot about this.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, that was building for the future, but it was
helping now by getting one of the top five players
in the world. But I don't know if Lebron sees
it that way. He knows it's Luca's team. Why make
this public? Can you make it public to put pressure
on the front office to do something here, or if
(06:15):
the team's not that good, we told you to do something.
I'm just kind of surprised that rich Paul was going
to say this, you know, publicly, Yes, Mormon, rich.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Paul's treating the Lakers like they're the hornets, Like, are
you guys trying to compete? They're the Lakers. Of course
they're trying to compete. Why do you think they got Luca?
Just like PAULI said, that's stupid.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, but why would you say this publicly?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Don't do you think the front office doesn't realize, Hey Lebron,
don't forget about Lebron. Hey we gotta win championships. Hey,
it's about now. Don't you think you had that conversation
with them when you decided to opt in on that salary. Absolutely,
I would guess you would say to Rob Polenka, hey
he's gonna opt in, but you got to help him
(07:00):
out a little bit here. I was just kind of
surprised that, Hey.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
This is about now. Too.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Don't forget about Lebron. This is about the future with Luca.
We get that, but I mean, what do you expect
them to do, like trade Austin Reeves and then you're
getting what they still need shooting? They need a big
man perimeter defense is I mean, there's some issues here
that it doesn't just solve it by And Lebron wasn't
(07:28):
taking a discount. They said that right away. He's you know,
he's not giving you a hometown discount. Here just feels
like this is a strange comment to make the end
of June. This is still a good team. Are they
better than Denver? Better than Minnesota? They're not better than
(07:49):
the Rockets, I don't think. And they're not better than OKC.
If you just start there now, you still have some
bottom feeders there in the West. But are they fifth seed?
Are they going to be better than Dallas? When Kyriez
comes back, that team might be better. Yeah, you know,
(08:10):
I think if you're if you're I don't know. I'm
just trying to play devil's advocate, I guess. But if
you're an Aging Stars agent and you decide to give
it one more go, maybe just putting the emphasis even
though everybody knows it on you know, we don't have
a lot of time left and Lebron needs to win
(08:31):
right now. So we know the Lakers are gonna carry
on long after Lebron James is finished, but he needs
to win right now, and that's where our focus is
on right now. You guys might be looking more to
the future, but we need to do this right now,
and that you know, I don't know that it's as
like maybe not sinister is the right word, but I
don't know that it's any deeper than like, you know,
this dude's only got maybe a year left here, so
(08:53):
we got to win this year. I don't think there's
anything wrong with that. But do you think the front
office doesn't realize then I.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Don't know that.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
I think that the front office probably doesn't look at
it as crucially important this one year.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
As the guy who's like I might be done after this,
I only.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Got one year left, maybe two, whereas the Lakers see
themselves as a global brand and for hundreds of years.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
But if you're Lebron and here you're his agent, don't
you then say to the front office, are you guys
all in this year? And then if you're not. Hey,
we're building for the future. I mean, we're in and
we're all in. But with the pieces that we have
right now, they're waiting for Lebron's salary to be off
(09:37):
the books. So that's the weird part of this.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Yeah, Seden, Well maybe it's setting up a you know,
I don't know mid season.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
It's saucy.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I don't see it happening because if you're Lebron, Let's say,
because he has a no trade you don't want to
go to a team. You're gonna weak by going to them,
and they have to give pieces to the Lakers. If
he was going to go, let's say he wanted to
go back to Cleveland. Now's when you go just say,
I'm going to go. Put me on that team and
(10:11):
we're going to be the favorites in the East. We'll
be the favorites because the East is damaged right now.
You want to win another title, win a title in Cleveland,
you can do that. But I just think there's selfish reasons.
You want to stay in La. Your family's in LA
business opportunities, your son's playing for the team.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
You probably can't have it both ways there.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
But to me, this is really signaling that, yes, you're here,
we will compete this year, but then we have to
move on. There's a whole nother era that's going to start,
and maybe it started this weekend.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yes, Mart, if you're the Lakers, do you ask Rich
Paul flat out, hey, do you think Lebron has one
year left or two years left? Just so we can
get this show on the road. As far as pre
for the future with Luca as their.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Guy, well, did you do a one plus one or
is it just a one year deal? That might tell
you too with the Lakers that they may look at
this as a one year deal.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I mean, he's obviously still a.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Great player, and still a draw and still important, like
all of those things. I just think they're saying, that
guy's forty and that guy's twenty six, We're hitching our
wagon to him and come along for the ride. He
is the guy who's leading us, not you, yeampolling.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
It is ironic that if this were any other sport,
they would move on from Lebron James. If this or football,
they would have moved on from well before they were
into this situation. Even baseball, they try not to keep
older guys at the very very end. But the NFL
would never have this direction for a franchise.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Eight seven seven three DP show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com,
twitter handle at DP show. Got a gambling investigation, federal
investigation into one of the Detroit Pistons. We'll talk about
that at the prop bets, that's the key. Took away
prop bets from college football, college athletics, and they make
(12:11):
a lot of money prop bets. But then, you know,
are players realizing they can make some money too, And
you know, we talked about this early this morning and
Fritzy goes, why would you do that? You know you're
already making a lot of money. He was ready to sign, easily,
ready to sign a three year, forty two million dollar deal.
(12:33):
Well you do it because you don't think he'll get caught.
If that's the case, If that's what happened in this situation.
You know John Kay Porter, Michael Porter Junior, the Third's brother,
he was hanging on. He was a fringe player and
probably saying, hey, you know what, I can help some friends.
Maybe I get a couple hundred thousand dollars out of
a day. You're not thinking, hey, why, hey, I could
(12:54):
get caught. You're you. You don't think that way. You think, hey,
this is a great opportunity. Nobody will notice. I mean,
that's the great part of this for me is the NBA.
If it's true, they caught him, they found this, they
saw this. You know, Vegas polices, they have to police
(13:14):
the sport. It's their business, multi billion dollar business. We
have to be aware of everything. But we'll have more
on this coming up next hour. But I don't care
how small you know that you think or nobody's going
(13:35):
to notice me.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
They will. They have to.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It's like whenever you see something that looks strange, it
goes from this to this that Vegas knows this, they're
watching this. But Beasley is a nine year veteran. You
got some money. If it's true that you are shaving
(13:59):
points or prop bets, they'll catch you. They'll find you.
They have to, it's their job, it's imperative. But for
these guys to go, nobody's gonna notice this little thing here, Hey,
over under rebounds is six and a half. Nobody will notice.
They have to notice because if you tell somebody, that
(14:22):
person tells somebody that it's a game of telephone. After that, hey,
I got it. I got a tip. This happened to
me when I gambled. Somebody would say, hey, you know
what I'm hearing?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Then somebody would say and then all of a sudden,
by the time I got to the bed, it went
from six and a half to nine and a half.
Like it was like, Okay, something's up. And then the
bookies go, hey, we're going to react accordingly. And then
they take it off the the off the board. They're
gonna find you, They're gonna get you. And if that's
the case, and the Fed's involved in this, now this
(14:56):
isn't the NBA, it's the Feds. We'll talk about that
coming up. All right, we'll get to phone calls eight
seven to seven to three. DP show email addre SDP
at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle it TP show. How
about we take a break on this Monday morning. We're
back after this.
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Speaker 2 (15:52):
All Right, the NBA Free Agency month got underway this weekend,
and the biggest ish news is is going to stay
in Los Angeles. I don't know if anybody's surprised. I
think the surprising part was his agent, his representative, Rich Paul,
kind of making it, well, not kind of making it
(16:13):
public of hey, Lebron wants to win. Now, we know
you're thinking about the future. The future is now for
Lebron James. I'm sure the front office really appreciated Rich
Paul going public with that and saying what didn't need
to be said. I think the front office is well
aware that this might be lebron last year, but he's
(16:34):
going to opt in. He has no trade clause, and
I didn't know if it was going to be a
two year deal or a one plus, but by all
accounts it's a one year deal. And Rich Paul pointing
out to the Lakers that Lebron still wants to win.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
All right, poll question, Seaton, what do we have? Well,
we got two of them right now? We have up
there in which league is it toughest to go from
worst to first? And I only put up three right now.
I put up NBA, MLB and the NFL toughest to
go worst to first?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Major League Baseball is winning that one, okay, but I
think that's going to change.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
We also have to put up there.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
And this is a little bit of a topic, but
is there a term for a player who is neither
a bust nor a star that goes first overall? So
DeAndre Ayton, Yes, this is called the DeAndre Ayton poll.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Okay, because I think he's going to be a free agent.
He was number one pick, but he was also number
one pick in the draft that gave us Luca and Trey.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Young as well.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
But DeAndre Ayton, he went to the University of Arizona,
and the owner at the time, I think Robert Sarver thought,
let's keep the local talent in Arizona, not thinking that
maybe we get a generational Allen or.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
A worldwide talent.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But not everybody knew about Luca, and I mean, let's
be fair about this that I did watch. I watched
highlights of him in Europe, and I just thought that
he was barely getting by people, barely getting his shot off.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And then I realized that's what he does in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
He barely gets by you, barely gets his shot off,
but he does it every single time. Trey Young I
thought was going to be a thing. I thought that
he would be a guy who could be a specialist.
Turned out that he's a really good passer as well.
But DeAndre Ayton, I don't think he's bad enough to
(18:40):
be a bust. But I don't think he's good enough
to be one of those guys that you look and
say he was worthy of the number one pick.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yes, Pauline.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
He's been in the league DeAndre Eton for seven years.
He averages about fourteen and ten.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
He's had.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
The best season was his second year. He averaged eighteen
to eleven. He has never made an All Star team
in seven years.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I don't think he's going to make it all now.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
So we know what we know about his career. Yes,
we need a term.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Disappointing that almost seems harsh unfulfilled.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, you could do that, like we're looking for one word.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Yeah, not a bust nor a star.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
Right.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah. Seen, when you.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Look at number one overall picks for years and years
and years surrounding that one, he's doing pretty well compared
to everybody else. He's significantly more successful than a lot
of dudes that went number one overall.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It's a lot of times it's just like Peyton Manning
and Ryan Leaf.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
You know that Ryan Leaf was viewed to bust.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
He was never gonna, you know, and it made it
worse because Peyton was one of the greats of all time.
So sometimes Sam Bouie not here fault, but he was
injury prone and you know, they ended up taking Sam
Buie in Portland.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Michael Jordan was in the draft.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So I think that has to do with how we
look at you of we could have had him, and
Ayton is serviceable. I could see him playing for the Lakers,
but I don't know if serviceable is I don't know, Hey,
how would you describe his talents serviceable.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Point also in that draft with DeAndre Ayton, Luca Trey Young,
as you said, SGA and Jalen Brunson were in that draft.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, yeah, that doesn't help in how we look at you.
But but if you said, hey, this guy's going to
average sixteen and ten for his career and he's the
number one overall pick, I'm good. If he was like
the eighth pick in the draft, you'd go, hey, wow,
all right, sixteen ten, that's good.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yes, Mark, See he needed to be in the Anthony
Bennett draft.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
There was nobody in that drift but good career by him.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, Caves.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Caves would have had a good guy, good player, sixteen
and ten, serviceable.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yes, you'll take it. I would.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I don't know what the ceiling was when you say unfulfilled.
Unfulfilled because he's the number one pick, or was he
a guy that people thought, man, this guy is going
to be I thought Jaron Jackson Junior the third was
going to be great, and and he's he's really good.
But I thought he was going to be great. That
he could play defense, offense, he could shoot, he had range, blockshot,
(21:40):
you know, all those things. But he was in that
draft too, wasn't he Marvin Jaron Jackson Junior? The third
did he go like third was going?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So I don't know if we look at the ceiling
and then go and like how high is the ceiling
for DeAndre Aiden? And if he's that good, why is
he on the move again? Yes, Marvin, because he's just serviceable.
He's not a franchise changer. And I think that's the issue.
They were thinking about the old school days of the nineties.
(22:11):
We need to dominate big man, and you had Trey
Young and Luca right there. But to your defense, nobody knew.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Luca, no, buddy. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
We need a comp in another sport, a player who
has taken number one overall, probably a quarterback who didn't
have a bad career, just never really paid off. Sam Bradford.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Serviceable.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
I don't think he made a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
He made a lot of money, Yes he did.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
So did DeAndre Aid. Yeah, that's Sam Bradford.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Might be it.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Because Jameis Winston's been a bit of a disappointment, but
he had some decent years. I'd say more of a
disappointment for Jamis as the number one pick, but.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Was any the first member of the thirty thirty club,
which you don't want to be. Oh, you don't want
to be in that thirty thirty.
Speaker 10 (23:05):
Yes. Yes.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Baseball doesn't really have this conversation because you don't know
anybody until it's like, all right, let's see if that
four hundred and fifty million dollars is worth it. That's
going to be tricky, But there aren't really busts or anything.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I mean when you think back and you go number
one pick in the draft, it's because the number one
pick normally doesn't go right into Major League Baseball.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
We get ten of these dudes in the NFL and
the NBA. We get a million of these dudes a year, don't.
You don't even have to be the number one overall pick.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
But we focus I think we focus on the number
one pick in hockey probably more than we do in baseball,
because it feels like those players are generational talent and
chances are they're going to be playing in the NHL
right away.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yes, boy one that stands out two thousand and nine,
we covered him a lot, Steven Strassburg out of San
Diego State. He was supposed to be in this last
twenty years. He was the most before Skeens, the most
publicized pitcher going into the league. He had a good
career one thirteen and sixty two. He made three All
Star teams, never won a cy Young.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Oh he did win over one hundred games.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
Yeah, I got him well.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
He pitched thirteen years, one hundred and thirteen wins. He
had a couple of good seasons with over fifteen wins
one thirteen and sixty two, three All Star peers.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I remember and I likened Stephen Strasburg to Jadavian Clowney
with the hype because I remember John Smoltz was talking
his first game he did in the minor leagues, Steven Strasberg.
I remember Smoltz was talking about they were had these
glowing reviews like he was the perfect pitcher. He was
(24:44):
the perfect pitcher. Jadevion Clowney, Oh my gosh, we've never
seen this before. When the mother Ship went out to
his pro day and there's no perfect player. There are
times when we look at somebody and you can't miss, well,
you can miss. We've seen that happen, and Steven Strasburg
was just like Mark Pryor. Mark Pryor was the perfect
(25:05):
pitcher now the Dodgers pitching coach. You had experts who
were looking at him in his form, everything about him,
it was great, he's going to be dominating. Well, he
wasn't overused with the Cubs with Carrie Wood and never
really reached that potential that people had for him. But
when it comes to number one pick in the draft
(25:25):
in baseball, I don't think that we even remember, like
that guy was a ninth round draft and you know
Albert Poohols, what was he thirteenth round draft pickers and
you know, we just don't think about it that way,
or it feels like you're giving away the future of
your team because maybe you missed on the number one
pick in the draft in football or in basketball, that
(25:50):
certainly is the feeling. Yes, Marvin, I don't.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Know much about hockey, but I do remember this name
when I was young, about him being.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
The next guy, Eric Lindros.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Yeah, I think he was number one pick over and
they talked about him like crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Well he had concussions and yeah, he wasn't able to
live up to the hype he was supposed to be,
like that's the new hockey player. He's big and he's fast, powerful.
Not quite l Mew, but that feeling of you know, wow,
he's different. Let's see John in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Hi John. Best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 10 (26:27):
Hi Dan, It's six one two twenty today. I'll start
with my best of the weekend. And I don't know
if you've seen this, but omegaball. I caught Omega ball.
It's fascinating. It's soccer played in a circle and it's
three teams every thirty three degrees on this circle, there's
a goal and you got fifteen guys going out there
(26:49):
for the ball. Not a big soccer fan, but this
was really cool. If you get a chance to catch
some Omega ball on the Mothership, it's it's it's neat.
It's a smaller circle than a regular soccer pitch. But
I don't know if you've seen it, maybe Polly has,
but very very very cool. My worst of the weekend.
(27:12):
As I was wrapping up the weekend last night, I
caught some of the Air Guitar Championship air jam off
and these guys are dressed up in costumes, some like
the Ultimate Warrior. There was a Freddie Mercury in red.
There was and they're Air guitaring and it's a train wreck.
It's I couldn't take my eyes off of it, of course,
(27:34):
but I just I got the chills, you know, those
embarrassment chills that you get when somebody does something they're
so stupid.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
All right, Well, thank you, John. I would say you
probably need to get a life, John, just say maybe
you need to maybe a stream, maybe stream something. Yeah,
a lot of things to stream, thank you.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
I didn't see those events, but I did watch some
of the National Darts Championship this weekend, and the coverage.
Whatever you think of darts, the coverage is fantastic. They
know how to produce that show. It's the place is
going crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Backroom guys went, Yeah, Dylan Ray Bad, Larry I think
came up. They went it was Madison Square Garden. They
went to the Darts Championship. Let's see Steven la Hi, Steve,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (28:25):
Hey? Now, DP, Hey, hey, I just want to give
you a complimentary, complimentary comp You guys are the Howard
Stern of sports talk radio. So that's one thing that's
a great comp By the way, another nickname, I got
a nickname for you, Black Jesus Michael and I also
(28:49):
wanted to ask you when Friday, you guys were you
were talking about kind of being broke, not for but broke,
not having enough money when you were young. What was
the nicest thing for the first night thing you bought
when you started making money?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, we weren't poor growing up. We just didn't There
was certain things we didn't have. We were limited. How's
that six kids and we had one and a half
bathrooms and having two sisters and you just did you
just dealt with it. But I feel bad if I
(29:30):
embarrassed my brothers and sisters by comments that I was making.
We just we didn't have things, that's all. But you
know we made us better workers. That's why we're all
pretty successful in what we do, you know, our different
walks of life. But no, we we just didn't have
that stocked refrigerator. And you know, you go to your
(29:51):
friend's house and all of a sudden there's like twinkies
there and ding dongs and you get chocolate milk and wonderbread.
Like there's things that stand out when you go to
somebody else's house and that you know that happened. But
I just remember one Christmas went down the street and
(30:15):
this family. You couldn't walk, You couldn't walk on the
floor because the entire floor was full of gifts and
we got three gifts at Christmas. And even then it
didn't you weren't necessarily getting what you wanted. And uh
it always socks, always, you know, your stocking stuffer was
(30:39):
full of socks and underwear and you're like, okay, or
gloves and you're like, all right, you know, but hey,
no boohoo made us stronger.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
At the time, I was pissed, but uh, you know,
I learned. I learned to deal with it.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yes, marm It's like, did you go to your friend's
house to see name brand cereal?
Speaker 10 (31:02):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Yes, like whoa, yeah, fruit loops. We've been eating fruitios.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Uh yeah, you know that when there's soda in the
refrigerator and you're like, wait, can you just take that?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah? Do you want to take a coke? If you
want one?
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Damn?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
What is this?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
This exists?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And then you go home and then you say to
your mom, oh, I was over at Scott mckevitch's place
and his refrigerator is packed. Well, why don't you spend
more time over at Scott Mkevitch's.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Place, and I'd be like, okay, yes, you are more
reasonably asking for something like a can of soda.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
We would see like the new Atari video cartridge at
someone's house was something that was far more expensive, and
we'd throw a temper tantament so we got that.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh no, we I remember the greatest Christmas I ever had.
I was playing with a gift and then my mom
came down and she said, oh, that's your brothers. So
I had to give up the best gift I ever had,
and it was my brother. It wasn't for you, it
wasn't for me. No, And I'm like, God, this is great,
(32:11):
and I think my mom mislabeled, and all of a sudden,
I'm like, dang, this is awesome, and all of a
sudden she goes, oh, Danny, that's for Bill.
Speaker 10 (32:22):
What what?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Once again?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
It made me stronger, made me stronger, I'm stronger, all right.
When we come back, we'll talk some gambling and the
FBI or there's a there's an investigation, a federal investigation
into a member of the NBA's Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
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Speaker 2 (32:55):
David Purdham covers gambling for ESPN and these story is
Malik Beasley of the Pistons. There's an FBI probe with him. Well,
David joins us, Now, what exactly is Beasley accused of doing?
Speaker 10 (33:12):
So?
Speaker 11 (33:13):
Federal authorities are investigating him on allegations of gambling on
the NBA related to games and prop bets. That's according
to his attorney. So exactly the details of which games
of what went down with him are still unknown at
this time. But he is the third NBA player in
just the last eighteen months to be reportedly under investigation
(33:35):
by the FEDS for betting allegations, and NIA joints John
say Border and Terry Rochere.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Okay, this is different than the NBA investigating what happens
when there's a federal probe? How do they investigate as
opposed to what the NBA would do.
Speaker 11 (33:49):
Well, this all started back again with the johns Porter thing,
and they subpoenaed some of the sports books for betting
records for individuals that they suspected may have been involved.
And so my working premise is that they probably had
those subpoena records, the betting records, went through and see
what some of the unusual betting activity on some of
these other games. So they're working through everything right now,
(34:13):
communicating with the sports books, the attorneys, and so forth
to see where it goes.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Okay, but give us a red flag.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Give us what happens when all of a sudden somebody goes,
wait a minute, something suspicious.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
That's a great question.
Speaker 11 (34:28):
And when bookmakers really are convinced that something is untoward
is going on is when they move the odds right.
So a prop bet maybe over under two and a
half for rebounds or whatever, and instead of moving you know,
up to four and a half to'll adjust the big
on if you want to bet the over, it may
be minus two hundred. When they bet just the odds,
(34:50):
and the betters don't stop betting it and just keep
betting it even though these odds have moved against them,
it is a major red flag. In flag, some bookmakers
will tell me they will do it intentionally, moving overly aggressive,
move these odds so crazy that nobody that was really
trying to bet it seriously would keep betting. And yet
(35:10):
people do keep betting it and then they know something's
going on.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
How dangerous are prop bets since an individual can control
a lot of what his numbers are.
Speaker 11 (35:21):
Yeah, certainly they are more easily to be manipulated than
a full game if you just have a player that's
over under on rebounds or three pointers made or points.
That's what happened with the Johntay border situation. There was
all these bets on unders on his statistics. Then he
had took himself out of the game within minutes and
so all the unders hit. So partly excuse me. Prop
(35:45):
bets definitely are a concern. There's a debate to be
had whether we should be offering in the regulated market
prop bets on all these individual players.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Well, I know that college took away the prop bets,
or you know, they took away prop bets on college athletes.
Speaker 11 (36:02):
Correct some of the states that Vegas has not about.
I think there's about eighteen states that now prohibit individual
player props on college athletes.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, because you know that's tricky when you're a college
kid and you know what happens here. David I mentioned
this that these guys probably thinking nobody's going to notice this.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Hey, I'm gonna do this, nobody will notice.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Well, Vegas has to notice this, like they have, Like
it's imperative that they notice these things. And anybody out
there who thinks nobody is going to notice if I
do just this or this and I play for this team,
nobody follows, you know, University of Alabama, Birmingham, they do.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
They have to.
Speaker 11 (36:47):
You're right one hundred percent, and you'll hear people go
the sportsbooks are no. The sportsbooks are the ones that
lose when these bets are not on the up and up.
They're the ones that detect it. So you're absolutely right
there things. There's what's the saying, you know, two people
can keep a secret. If it gets past there, it's over.
Greed starts to get involved. Hey, I made a little
(37:08):
money here from keeping it quiet. Let me tell my buddy,
he makes a little bit money. All of a sudden,
there's this flood of money coming in on these random
games that people are like, where is this coming from?
So it does to get detected.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
NBA hasn't responded yet to Malik Beasley. That's correct.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
They said they are cooperating with the federal investigation.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Good to talk to you again, David, it won't be
the last time I talked to you, that's sure.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
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