July 31, 2025 • 42 mins
The Lions and Chargers meet in Canton for the Hall of Fame game, and Dan remarks on the strange career of backup Chargers Quarterback Trey Lance, who will start in Canton. Chargers Quarterback Justin Herbert joins the show to talk about adjustments under coach Jim Harbaugh, preparing for the NFL season, and advice he would give to a young quarterback in the league today. Dylan gives some picks for the Lions-Chargers preseason game.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Hour two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Thursday, we'll check in with the Chargers quarterback
Justin Herbert the Hall of Fame game Tonight it'll be
the Chargers and the Lions. That'll be from Canton, Ohio
eight Eastern on NBC and Peacock, which is where you'll
find this show. Good morning. If you've downloaded the app,
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cards of The Dan Patrick Show. I don't know why
I'm fascinated with this stat, but I keep an eye
on it. Four shutouts on Wednesday. The seasonal total major
League Baseball two hundred and thirty two shutouts. Only one
other year in baseball history has more shutouts before the
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month of August, and that was twenty fourteen. When they're
two hundred and forty two. I don't know what the
reason is, other than maybe it's feast or famine. I
throw it hard, you swing really hard, either hit home
runs or you get shut out. Also you Heno Suarez
has thirty six home runs. He was traded to Seattle.
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Back to Seattle, he was with Arizona. The thirty six
home runs are the most of any player at the
time they were traded during a baseball season. The previous
mark was thirty four and it was Mark McGuire. He
went from the A's to the Cardinals in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Who Stall of a Day, Stalladay, Stallava Day, Stannata Day.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
This is the State of the Day, brought to you
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So the baseball trade deadline later on today and probably
a flurry of activities with the National League East, but
a lot of middle relievers were exchanged. But one big hitter,
(01:58):
Uheno Swarez is from Arizona to Seattle Sea. Ana's got
a good lineup, sneaky lineup there. So the Hall of
Fame game coming up tonight, and we'll talk to CC Sabathia,
Philip Rivers will join us, and Justin Herbert will join us.
Coming up here in a little bit, Rob in Orange County, Hi, Rob,
(02:18):
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
By Dan? And thank you for having me. You know,
I just wanted to share a little Phillips Rivers story.
Two of them there, PG. But he used to live
in Santa LUs with me, and there's two. We went
to the same church, Church of the Nativity. And after
we signed his second big contract, I walk outside and
I see him change in one of his kids diapers
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and the back of his I think it was an
esca ladder or something like that, and it's just what
a humble Manny is, you know, great guy. And then
the second funny story is we used to play basketball
at Santa Luis and you was a basketball expert. Dan
would no, you got to pass the ball open up shots. Well,
a friend of mine who's also famous, but I didn't
(03:03):
I'm not allowed to use his name right now, said Philip,
aren't you don't you play in the NFL. And Philip said,
of course, you know that, and he said, well, they
passed me the damn ball. He was slam duncan all
the time. And it was just funny. And Philip's a
great guy anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
All right, Well, thank you, Rob. He's got ten children.
I think he's got a sprinter vent. I think I
asked him the last time about that. Can you get
everybody into one vehicle? I think he got himself a
sprinter van. I think his youngest is six oldest is
probably eighteen, but I think he's got ten. Yeampau.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
How many college quarterbacks come out of that group gotta
be like three, right, odds are genetics.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I don't know how good the arms are on his
daughter's right, you know, I don't want to exclude them.
Maybe they're playing flag football, but yeah, you should be
able to get a couple of them out of that.
Eric in Wisconsin, Hi, Eric, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (04:03):
DP six foot five, two thirty five, Long time, first
time I see you guys, got our voice CC coming
on the show later on. What do you think about
our first place Milwaukee Brewers this year?
Speaker 7 (04:17):
How do they keep doing it?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Give them credit? You know, it's not a fluke. It's
it's one of those where you look at middle of
May to now, I mean, this is incredible baseball that
they've played. Yeah, really incredible. And you probably got a
lot of players that most of the nation is not
familiar with, and it feels like the one player that
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people are familiar with is your rookie pitcher, miss Rownski.
And he hasn't been there that long, but long enough
to make the All Star TiO. All right, we'll get
to more phone calls coming up. It's kind of interesting
when you get to preseason football because you're going to
watch quarterbacks who probably aren't going to play in the
regular season and maybe not even make the roster. Trey
(05:02):
Lance is going to play tonight. He's going to play
for the Chargers. I believe dj uey Ung la Lay
who bounced around, he is going to be the backup quarterback.
He was at what Clemson, Florida State, and then Washington State.
Does that sound right? Oregon State? Yeah, Dewey douje I
(05:23):
was calling him Dewey unglea Lay instead of dj uey
ungal Lea. But he is a backup quarterback there. Hendon
Hooker is going to be playing as well. He was.
I really liked him at Tennessee and he's the Lions
backup quarterback. That's kind of fun. I'm still curious about
Trey Lance. I just don't know how two bright minds
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with the San Francisco forty nine ers are going to
say we're all in on Trey Lance and then Trey
Lance can't play football now. Granted he only played like
twelve games in his college career, but he bounced around.
Now as a backup quarterback with the Chargers. Got a
lot of talent, But I like, what's missing here? What
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is missing? Because if you're watching somebody on film now,
granted you know, you can say he was playing at
North Dakota State, he had a perfect season, like they
won the title. I don't think he threw an interception,
so that you're just looking at him and go okay.
And he had mobility, he had all right, he had
everything ready to go. Niners like, that's our guy. We're
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going all in John Lynch, We're going all in Kyle Shanahan.
And they whiffed on him, and then other teams Dallas
had him, And now can he play in the NFL?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Yeah, Pauline, I just double checked it. Trey Lance has
just turned twenty. It's not over. He was the youngest
player in the league his first year. He between San
Francisco and Dallas. He's made five career starts. His numbers
are mediocre, but he's not twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
But he wasn't better than Cooper Rush. And this is
the guy that the Niners went all in top five
pick and then he can't play. And I don't know
what the knock was on him, other than there wasn't
enough sample size, like, you know, twelve games or so,
but you're going to base it off of that. But
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could he doesn't even come his name doesn't come up
in conversation of hey, we should trade for that guy.
Is he better than Anthony Richardson. I'm just throwing this out.
Anthony Richardson's, you know, got a lot of promise and
he's what twenty or twenty one years of age, But
Trey Lance was supposed to be the guy.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yeah, Paul, I think if you go back to it,
it was twenty and twenty or Trey Lance had thirty touchdowns,
one pick the title, but he was basically flawless led
them to the title. That was right after the Carson
Wentz to the Pros and Carson was great and people
were like, oh, this is the next Carson Wentz. People
fell in love with him. Then he had the next
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year with COVID where I think they played one game.
It was almost like an exhibition.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
Yeah, so the.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Sample size on him was one season in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
But I thought there was somebody in between the East and.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Yeah, but I think there was a there was a
run on those one double A quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, but Easton Stick was with the Chargers.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Yeah, he was a backup.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, But I mean when you talk about a bust,
his name's up there, you can put him there with
Ryan Leave. But you know, here's the thing. We blamed
the player. He didn't draft himself. When we have a bust,
we should put the person who drafted him up there.
At least put the GM up there with the player.
(09:02):
Did Bobby Bethard draft Ryan Leaf with the Chargers or
did they have a different GM? Oh no, they had
a who was the GM at that?
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Alex Smith or a J. Smith was the president of that?
Speaker 9 (09:15):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay? But they should have There should be blame to
go around a little bit there, you know, JaMarcus Russell
with the Raiders who drafted him, Yes, Todd.
Speaker 10 (09:25):
Unless there's some type of arrogance where the person's like,
you're gonna all pay the price that you didn't pick
me sooner, then there could be some blame for the
play iff they're pushing how wonderful they are and they
turn out not to be.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Bobby Bethard's a Hall of Famer, the late Bobby Bethort.
He drafted, he was brilliant at drafting, but he drafted
Ryan Leaf, but you don't. That doesn't go against his resume.
But you know, when you have bust at quarterback, and
usually that's the only position we look at at a
bust just because you're you're going to spend that kind
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of a you know, draft capital or that that high
of a draft pick on a quarterback and you know
the value that we attached to that position, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 11 (10:09):
Even guys like Achille Smith from the Bengals, and then, uh,
who's my man, Zach Wilson just recently, And it's a
combination of not playing well and a bad organization.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
But you're looking at guys who didn't play that much.
Zach Wilson didn't play that much. It goes back to
what my source tells me when he's analyzing these players.
How many games can I look at? Because I want
to see everything that happens. I want to see when
you have the five touchdown day. I want to see
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when you have the five interception day. I want to
see everything. But if I'm only seeing the good, because
the NFL is not just the good, it's the bad
and the ugly, and that's what you want to see
because you want to see in the maturity of a quarterback.
I want to see, all right, are you leading people? Now?
What are you doing? How are you doing it? Is
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it sustainable?
Speaker 7 (11:09):
You know?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Are you somebody who complains? Are you moping? Do your
teammates help you up after a sack?
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
There's so much that factors into this, and there's so
many things, the subtleties of being a great teammate. And
I think that's where you're trying to figure all of
this out. But how do you whiff on Trey Lance?
How do you go all in and so all in
that you go up and getting Mitchell Trubisky was a
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serviceable quarterback. I mean he he had one good year
of football. And that's where you know, we talk about
arch Manning as if he's going to be in Canton.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Now, does he have a head start, yes. Is he
far more athletic than any of his uncles? Yes? But
I don't know how great he is, Like how low
is the floor and how high is the ceiling? I
have no idea, And I don't think anybody can tell
you that. Steve Sarkisian, who played the position his head
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coach at Texas, I understand he should be able to
assess the talent there, but there's so much that goes
into this. How are you at the line of scrimmage.
How are you after you've been knocked down, thrown a
pick six? How are you as a leader?
Speaker 12 (12:28):
Like?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Do I think that he's been given, you know, the
answers to the test by Peyton and Eli. Yes, but
you still got to go out there and do it.
And I don't have enough of a sample size.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I've seen glimpses where I go, Okay, all right, I
like that he's athletic, but man, we've already penciled him
in for the number one pick next draft, and then,
if not that draft, the next draft. And I am
so sure not yet. Yeah, Paulie, It.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Does feel though with the NFL, the best thing you
could do is have that one monster year and jump
to the draft. Zach Wilson, BYU two years, he was
part time starter. Then his junior year he led the
nation and everything. Thirty seven hundred yards, thirty three touchdowns,
three picks. He never outstayed his welcome. But then you
look at a guy like Bo Nicks. Bo Nicks, I
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think had similar stats his last year, but it's like,
oh he was around a long time. What happened at Auburn.
We can't take him the top three, but bo Nicks
played like sixty college football games.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Deli in Chicago, Hi, Deli.
Speaker 13 (13:38):
Hey, Well, I was going to bring up the point
of Hi that I was going to bring up the
point of the comparison with Mitchell Trubisky, and he just
did it all right.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, thanks for the phone call. Yeah, I can't take
a one and Donner I just I would be nervous
about that. I want twenty five starts thirty. If I
can get that, let me take a break. We'll get
to more phone calls coming up eight, seven to seven,
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(14:09):
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his sixth se You're in your sixth year.
Speaker 8 (15:46):
Wow, gone by? Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Take me back to your junior year. You had really
good numbers at Oregon. How close were you to coming
out after your junior year?
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (15:58):
Really not that close. You know, just the way the
season ended. I wanted to come back and make sure
that we ended on the right foot. And I still
feel like I had so much to improve and get
better at, and you know, I think that was something
that we accomplished my senior year.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And then you played what thirteen or fourteen more games,
and scouts like to have around twenty five to thirty
starts to be able to assess, So I think you
had close to forty forty five starts in your careers.
That sound about Ryan, Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
I missed six games my sophomore year with a broken clavicle,
so I feel like that was, you know, good film
to put back on tape.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
How's the relationship with coach Harbaugh?
Speaker 8 (16:36):
It's awesome. You know, he's an incredible coach. Everyone loves
to play for him. We just want to make him proud.
And you know, he's a competitor and I think that's
the best thing about him is he just wants to win. However,
you know, we go about it. That's his main focus.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
He's a little goofy though at times, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
I think that's a good thing.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
You know.
Speaker 8 (16:52):
I think, you know, to have a personality as a
coach is great. He walks into team meeting rooms and
you know, it's not always just football, it's you know,
it's it's more than that. And I think the guys
respect that, they appreciate that, and it makes it easier
to you know, relate to him.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
How would you assess his throwing motion, his arm?
Speaker 8 (17:11):
I actually haven't seen him throw a lot recently. I
think he's been catching more passes and you know, I
think his arms have kind of taken a toll and
but he can still throw if you need to.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Okay, you're being polite here, You're you're choosing your words
carefully there.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
I respect that man.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Does he go into the weight room with you guys?
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Yeah, he's in there all the time, he's lifting, he's uh,
he's getting in the cold tubs. He does everything the
player does. It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Wait, he gets in the cold tub with you. He
does well, not not like with me specifically, but oh
there's only room for one in the cold tub. No,
it could fit you know, fifteen fifteen guys.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
After practice, he's in there recovering and doing everything he
can to you know, maximizes his recovery.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
But his brother said that Jim gets in the the
ice tub in his khakis. Is that right he has before?
Speaker 8 (18:06):
I think it's maybe a you know, a time constraint
if he's low on time. Oh, okay, you just maximize
the recovery.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Okay, So you're not playing tonight, Are you going to
have an ear piece in headset on?
Speaker 8 (18:17):
I think so. I think that would be the plan,
just to be able to hear the play and you know,
talk about whatever I need to any input. No, probably not,
I think more so you know, when we're playing a game, uh,
Greg Roman and I will meet and we'll talk about,
you know, the plays that I do like what I
what I don't like. And I think that's a meeting
that happens with the quarterbacks the day before, a couple
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of days before, just to talk through it.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Help me understand the offensive philosophy, because statistically they weren't
great numbers, big numbers, but your quarterback rating was I
think your highest, and Jim loves to run the football.
So what how would you describe the offense the that
the Chargers will have this year.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
Yeah, I think for us to be successful, we have
to be able to do everything. You know, I think
it starts with our run game, you know, the offensive
line that we've put together and being able to run
the ball behind those guys. But then at the same time,
you know, that's what's going to open up our play
action game. And I think we had a really good
play action game last year, but something continued we can
continue to improve on. And then when we're running the
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ball well, I think we're going to pass the ball
well too. And and you know, being able to scramble
extend plays on my feet, you know, I think that's
something I wasn't really able to do much of last year,
but it is still a huge part of my game
and something that we need to do this year.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, we were talking about this yesterday that I go
back to I think the Rose Bowl where you had
your legs were on display. You had, you know, great
performance there. That You're around the same size as Josh Allen,
aren't you.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Yeah, I think I think might be a little lighter.
He's probably a little bit stronger.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
But can you run like he runs? Would coach Harball
let you have that kind of weapon.
Speaker 13 (19:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
I think one of the things that I really respect
about his game is how many times they run quarterback
power and you know he's running between the tackles and
he's able to take those hits and you know, deliver
a few of them. And you see how many touchdowns
he scores in the red zone, and just the way
he affects the game too. I think that's something that
we really expect and if we could emulate that and
kind of work that into my game, I think that'd
be really helpful for us.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
He's justin Herbert, Chargers quarterback. Sixth season, sixth overall pick
in the twenty twenty draft by the Chargers. He was
the Offensive Rookie of the Year, made the Pro Bowl
in twenty twenty one, give me the quarterback or quarterbacks, Like,
do you sample from quarterbacks and say maybe I could
use that, I could put that into you know, my repertoire.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Yeah, for sure. You know, especially coming out of college,
that was one of those things where you watch a
lot of film on the on the NFL guys, and
at the time we were watching Tom Brady just how
you know he did everything footwork wise, was you know
the best. We watched a lot of Matt Ryan with
his you know, play action fakes. You know, I think
that was something that we always talked about, how quickly
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he snapped his head around, was able to get his
eyes downfield, and then Drew Brees his footwork too, and
just the way he went through his progressions and played
the quarterback position. I think those three guys were you know,
really important for me watching.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Okay, explain footwork with Tom Brady, What exactly is that
and is it teachable?
Speaker 8 (21:21):
Yeah? I think you know, the easiest way to describe
it would be just to time everything up with the route.
You know, a short route is going to have quicker footwork,
and you know a longer route play action is is
going to time it up and one of the things
that I always try to avoid is is standing still
in the pocket and just you know, bouncing around because
you have a tough time seeing when you're you know,
you're going up and down, and you know, as long
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as you're in rhythm and your your feet are aligned
with how deep the receiver is going to get, you know,
I think it makes it easier on the throw and
definitely easier you know, stepping up in the pocket as well.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Okay, but what's that clock like in your head when
you go back to pass? At what point do you go,
uh oh, like, I now I gotta start and I
gotta have my head on a swivel.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
As soon as you get to the top of your drop,
where you're where you're dropping back, and you know, it's
it's either a quick setup where you're hoping the ends
go around you and the tackle is push them up field,
or you're finding a lane to run through. But it's
it's quick, and you know, that's just how how fast
those guys are on defense, and you gotta protect them all.
You gotta avoid sacks. And you know that's something that
you know, Coach Harbaugh talks about all the time. So
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we're gonna get better at that this year.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
What was your welcome to the NFL hit?
Speaker 8 (22:35):
I would say I was rolling out one year, tried
to make this this play where I could spin in
the pocket and just kind of run around, and then
I got hit by Max Cropby and I didn't even
see him, and uh, that was when I was like, Yeah,
these these guys are much faster than I am. I
I got to be able to step up throw it away.
Taking a sack is not the worst thing, but you know,
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running into that thing that was.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Well, and you know Peyton and Tom Brady, two of
the greatest ever, had no problem just kind of going
into the fetal position instead of you know, you left
to live to call another play. And that's hard for
you because in college and high school you could get
away with this stuff. In the NFL, you can't. How
tough is that to go just take a sack or
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just throw it away.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
Yeah, that's that's the tough part, because, like you said,
high school and college, you'd be able to make some
of those plays, and you know, you'd get reward for
making a crazy play like that, and then you come
to the NFL and you know, everyone on defenses is
faster than you and you know, sometimes it's okay to
you know, wave the white flag, go down and live
for another play where you know, a sack is is
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not as bad as a fumble and a throwaway is
not as bad. So it's just kind of living through
that list and making sure that you're you're protecting the
ball and putting the team in a good position to win.
Who's your rival, shoot, I would say We've We've got
a lot of rivals. I definitely would say the Chiefs,
Raiders and the Broncs. I think the AFC West is competitive,
and you know, we've we've definitely, you know, had our
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fair share of competitions with those guys. Chiefs have gotten
us the past few years.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
But do you hate, like, do you hate one of
them a little more than the other ones?
Speaker 8 (24:16):
I would just say that the it's been a little
upside of the past couple of years, and that's just
something that we you know, we've got a great opportunity
to play them twice this year, and you know, we
know how good they are and how much success they've
had in the league over the past several years. So
it's always a good opportunity for us to go play
and be the team that we want to be.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
What advice would you give a rookie quarterback. Let's say
cam Ward calls you up and said, give me some
advice on what it's like.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Yeah, I would say to sacrifice now so you can
enjoy everything later. Just to go through everything and you know,
watch an extra hour of film, you know, do an
extra hour of recovery, make sure you're taking care of
your body, and you know there's always going to be
times to you know, go hang out with your friends
and do all these extracurricular activities. Uh, but right now,
you're a quarterback. You know, a team, has a franchise,
(25:03):
has put their trust in you to leave this entire
organization and to make sure that you're doing everything you
can for your teammates, the coaching staff, the community, because
it's really important. And at the end of the day,
if you're doing that, you're you're in good steps.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Wait, did you give me an organ organization? Did you
give me a Canadian organization?
Speaker 8 (25:23):
Organization?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, it sounded like, you know, maybe maybe that's Canadian
you were, you know, proximity there. But the organization you
gave me an organization which is what they do in Canada,
so don't want you to think too long and hard
about them. Maybe if you know any Canadian roots in
your family.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
I don't think so, not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Okay, I just want to make sure you gave me
a little organization. Hey, great to see you again, and
uh we'll be uh well, well you're not going to
be doing anything tonight, so I was going to say,
we'll be watching, but you're going to be watching too.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
I'm going to be sporting the team. I'm gonna be
out there, you know, offering help whatever I can. So
thanks for joining us. Yeah you bad, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
That's Justin Herbert. Last year regular season stats twenty three
and three, twenty three touchdowns, three interceptions, thirty eight hundred
yards like those are all really good numbers. But then
you know that coach Harball loves to run the football.
But that can make as you know, Justin says he
(26:26):
play action. Now all of a sudden they buy into
play action. I always thought it was funny when you'd
see these teams that couldn't run the football, but they'd
run play action. And I'd be like, if I'm a
defensive player, I'm going to expect you to pass all
the time, because if you want to run the ball,
give it to your running back. We'll be fine with that.
We can adjust. But I always thought Boomers size and
(26:49):
might have been the best play action quarterback that I
ever saw. With his ability to look like he was
handing the ball off. I thought slight of hand. The
Siasin was magical.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
He was great.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
And what they'll do, you know, you want to have
people watch. It's like pictures will do this. They'll be like,
watch me, watch film, Tell me what you see? What
am I doing? What can you tell that it's going
to be that pitch. You want somebody to look at
you and give you honest opinions on that. And it's
the same thing with the quarterback. Look at this from
(27:22):
a defensive backs perspective? Are you buying this with my
play action? And then he's talking about footwork that I'm
looking at Drew Brees footwork. I'm looking at Tom Brady's footwork.
And what he's talking about is you get in the rhythm,
you know, because everything's timed, you know, fractional seconds here,
it's so so quick, and to be able to have
(27:46):
rhythm it's going to be a seven yard out, it's
going to be something fifteen over the middle, it's going
to be a deeper pets. So everything's going to be
in rhythm. And I think that's what Tom did so
well because it looked like Tom. All he did is
just stand there, but while he did all the other
little things that he did. And quarterbacking is is about
(28:08):
stuff that you do that's on the periphery, like the
subtleties of what you do and being able to do
it and do it in a way that's convincing, knowing
where somebody is. The eyes. You know, these defensive back
talk about quarterbacks eyes all the time, and you know
sort of that game within the game of all right,
I'm going to lead you over here, leads you over here, No,
(28:30):
I'm throwing over here. Well, the defensive back is doing
the same thing. He's oh, I'm going to act like
I'm going over here. I know you're going over here.
I'm fascinated with the game within the game. Yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I saw a piece just the other day about this
with Joe Burrow, and they said Joe Burrow is not
a scrambler nor a runner. He's just a motion pocket guy.
That's the phrase they used, Like he moves in the
pocket without leaving the pocket, but he always has his
eyes downfield. He never turns his head to look at
what's around him, and that keeps a play a lot.
But they were focused on how his head stays downfield
(29:02):
while his feet are just shuffling.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
A couple of phone calls in here Chris in Vegas, Hi, Chris,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
They're going DP.
Speaker 9 (29:15):
I just wanted to go back to the whole quarterback
situation as far as like not having enough starts and
being younger guys. I think a lot of these guys
that are coming in should It's almost like it's mandatory
they should sit.
Speaker 13 (29:27):
You know, you got guys that go to.
Speaker 15 (29:28):
Bad situations and then they get label bus you know,
I e. Johnny Manziel or even Baker Mayfield and then
Baker goes to Tampa Bay and he's super successful now.
So like I just feel like these guys need a
more little bit more time, you know, let him sit,
let him get the Aaron Rodgers treatment or some of
these other guys that have sat and have learned and
(29:51):
didn't become successful.
Speaker 9 (29:53):
I think that it.
Speaker 15 (29:54):
It just goes back to that, like they're not getting
enough knowledge of the game before they get thrown into
the fire.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Well, let's take Johnny Manziel out of that, because Johnny
wasn't mature. You know, Johnny wanted to play by the
seat of his pants like you did in college, and
you can't do that in the pros. H Baker, I thought,
and he played well a couple of seasons in Cleveland.
I just think it started to go south when they
got Odell Beckham and he wanted to Playkate obj and
(30:24):
went out of his way to try to find him.
And Jarvis Landry to me, was a better wide receiver
with the Cleveland Browns. But you know what happens if
you're a young quarterback and you got a guy who's
six or seven year veteran wide receiver, tight end or
running back and or like, hey, I'm open man. And
I think that's hard too, because you're in you're in
the huddle, and these guys will talk to you, they'll
(30:47):
come back and say something to you. How would you
act react to that? But they've played so much. Cam
Ward probably has fifty starts in his college career. Jayden
Daniels had over fifty, like sixty, Dylan Gabriel sixty. I mean,
that's an incredible amount of football that you've played, and
(31:09):
so I have a better sense of who you are,
what kind of player you are. You know you're playing
twelve or fourteen. That's just tough. And even Justin Herbert,
I thought Justin Herbert was going to be more like
Josh Allen. I thought that because if you go back
to that Rose Bull, I think he had a couple
of long touchdown runs or at least one long touchdown run,
(31:31):
and I thought, you know, get him out, let him
use his legs now, don't invite contact like Josh Allen does,
but I would. I would have him out there and
just give you something else to think about. Bud in
South Carolina High, Bud, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Guys?
Speaker 12 (31:50):
Good people talking about the quarterback situations, everything like that
about said or Sanders and everything. But no one realized
that Charlie Ward went to Florida State one nights and
talking didn't even just selected.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
In the NFL.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Well, they thought that he was going to play basketball.
And we've had Charlie on the show, and I think
Charlie could have been a good NFL quarterback, but it's
it's a different era now. Now we want the quarterback
who will get out on the edge, the guy who
can be a runner, not just a thrower. You know,
(32:28):
let's go back to Lamar Jackson. I kept I watched him.
I go, that guy's great, the guy's great, and then
it'd be yeah, but it's throwing motion. But bah blah,
but but but but but but buck and I always
look at this and go, you still have to deal
with him.
Speaker 13 (32:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
He may not be the prototypical Dan Marino, Matthew Stafford
stand in the pocket, you're sixth he's not, but he's
something different. It's the ability of offensive coordinators to have
an imagination, to to not be locked in on this
is how you play football. And that's what's changed dramatically.
(33:09):
You know, football used to be boring. It was run, run,
third down, five yards, first down, run, run, throw the ball, punt.
Then it started to you know, get a little money.
The AFL opened the eyes of the NFL because it
was wide open. Then you bring along Dan Marino with
(33:32):
what he did. It was just different. Five wide, don't
need a running back, and that changed football as well.
You know what the greatest show on turf did? You know?
So there have been some innovators, but then you still
have kind of the old school that says, no, this
is how my quarterback is supposed to play. It's changing.
(33:55):
Charlie Ward was a great athlete and he was six',
three but he did have a good END nba. Career
he probably you had a better career in THE nba
than he would had THE. Nfl probably made some pretty good.
MONEY i think he's now a high school. Coach, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
PAULING i went back to that ninety THREE nfl draft
When Charlie ward did not get, picked and it's all tall,
Guys Trent, Green Elvis, Gerbach alex Van, Pelt Mark, Brunell Rick,
Meyer Drew, bledsell all, classics six' four drop. Back quarterbacks
you can maybe make the Case That michael vick broke.
The mold was that two thousand and one where he
(34:33):
was so electric that he pushed his way to the
number one pick where he's run first.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Past, second yeah but then you had, people, say well
he's not a, great passer a great, pocket PASSER and i,
always go but look at what he what else. He
does he's putting so much pressure on. A defense i
mean when he Was In, virginia tech.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
It.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
Was amazing he.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Was, Amazing Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Martin Else Freshman michael vick also.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Good point. Good POINT but I unless i'm wrong. On That,
WITH charlie i think that he was going to play IN.
The nba did He get was he a third round
pick or IN. The nba i'm trying. To remember it
feels like he was a late first. Round, pick oh
he was a late first round pick IN. The, nba, Correct, right, okay,
(35:25):
okay yeah he was wonderful. College quarterback, all right let
me take. A break got more. Phone Calls philip RIVERS
And cc sabathia coming up in the final hour of.
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(36:13):
Preseason football dylan's going to join us on loan From
The Dan patrick Takes a. Gamble podcast so if you'll
update the, Poll, Results, seaton yeah i'd dabby if you
had to give up one, watching football meat. Or beer
and then the other question is if you had to
give up one, watching football meat or alcohol. And cigars
it is a fairly shocking to me, that beer alcohol
(36:37):
and cigars is running away. With that and then it's
almost an even tie between football. And meat we find. That,
interesting okay that's each one of those has about ten
percent of. The vote fritzie stood Up so dylan could.
Sit down dyl part Of The, gambling podcast the latest
episode later Today With bad Larry And. Shan, Irming, so
(37:00):
dyl what do you have for a preseason football? Action tonight, All, Right,
dan well it's sort of like The Degenerate new. Year,
today yeah. Everything's fresh we've got a. Good one i'm
going With the lions minus one and a half Against. The,
chargers okay for one, Specific reason dju looks like he's
(37:21):
going to play in the, second half and he is
squarely on my list of unbettables.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
From, college okay.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
So he's going to be Leading the chargers in the
second half that according to. The, internet okay he's, always reliable,
always reliable, All Right.
Speaker 16 (37:41):
And i'm going to Take the chargers over one twenty
five team rushing yards between Him And. Trey lance they
may get that on, their, own okay, all Right sprinkle
Omari and, Hampton.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Too okay anything else that we should be.
Speaker 16 (37:58):
Aware of race to, Twenty points dan neither plus one Thirty.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Five finals, Nineteen sixteen no the over unders. Thirty, Two
yeah i'm thinking maybe like a sixteen fourteen Would Be
i'm i'm gonna go. Seventeen fourteen i'm gonna, go under and,
once again entertainment purposes. Only, only YEAH because i used
to bet on preseason football and that. Was sad it's
(38:26):
a sad State of but back then you had players
who did play in. The preseason at least you had
a reasonable facsimile of the lineup that you would have
during the. Regular season, Thank. You Dylan that's Dylan From
Dan patrick Takes a. Gamble Podcast, hey dylan Available at danpatrick. Dot,
COM yeample i have a follow Up. For, dylan oh
as an.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Expert, gambler, well no he's not AN expert a season, the, gambling, yes,
okay yeah. TECHNICALLY professional i know you guys, miss gamblers,
miss football so you bet. On preseason but isn't preseason
football the least predictable of?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
All?
Speaker 16 (39:00):
SPORTS yeah i mean it's really stupid. To bud you
have had no idea. Who's playing it doesn't really matter,
at all there's nothing on. The LINE but i think
any gambler will just say it is something to. Bet
on i've been on, spring, training, Yeah, Baseball yeah i've been.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
ON that, i mean if you want, to bet you
can pretty much place a bet on just about any
kind of, sporting Event as dylan. Has proved oh, yeah,
yeah cricket sign. Me UP oh, i know, Thank. YOU
dylan i thank More. From dylan that'll be later on
today at danpatrick. Dot Com dan patrick takes, A gamble Jack.
(39:40):
And tulsa, Good. Morning jack what's on your? Mind today good,
morning morning long.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
TIME listener i, love you, love YOU said. Espn, DAYS
yeah i got two. Quick things yesterday you were Talking
About brad pitt was side club when you knew he.
Could act he had already been Nominated For Best actor
Oscar For, twelve monkeys which was a bizarre, surprise ending
(40:07):
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the ending was kind of. A surprise the other, thing
is we're gonna hate when you leave your, Life family
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or guest host. Every week we don't want to see.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
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Speaker 4 (40:32):
You.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
JACK now i made up my Mind super Bowl. In
atlanta my career Started in ATLANTA, at cnn and it
seems like a fitting place to say goodbye. AFTER that i,
don't know, you know is there something down the road
where it's a once a week PODCAST or i. DON'T
know I just i made a Decision and i'm comfortable with.
(40:56):
That DECISION and i didn't See The Brad Pitt. TWELVE
monkeys i did not. See That But, fight club. That's
Great brad pitt was great in. That movie but, in fairness,
you know getting nominated For An, ACADEMY award i did not.
SEE that i didn't See The the vampire Movie With.
Tom cruise what was that in Set In new orleans
(41:19):
interview with, The, VAMBERIS yeah i didn't see that. ONE
either I don't i don't know if he was good
in that movie. Or not, but yeah there's usually a
movie where, you go that's when that guy became or
she became something more than. Just that, all right Coming Up,
final hour gonna. Be busy Ce see sabathia fresh Off
the Hall, of fame and we'll Talk To, Philip rivers fritzy's.
(41:41):
Favorite quarterback are you gonna say anything to him that
you have called him? A whiner i don't. Think so
if it comes up, IN conversation i have to stick to.
Speaker 10 (41:51):
My Guns but i'm not looking at stunts.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Up there you won't answer the phone, and, say hey. No,
Whining no i'm gonna hang under the table and duck for. Coverage,
that no you to answer the phone when, he CALLS
but i won't.
Speaker 13 (42:01):
Bring up the.
Speaker 11 (42:02):
Whining Thing chos.
Speaker 10 (42:03):
He Whines
Speaker 2 (42:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Thursday, we'll check in with the Chargers quarterback
Justin Herbert the Hall of Fame game Tonight it'll be
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(00:47):
month of August, and that was twenty fourteen. When they're
two hundred and forty two. I don't know what the
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throw it hard, you swing really hard, either hit home
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(01:10):
Back to Seattle, he was with Arizona. The thirty six
home runs are the most of any player at the
time they were traded during a baseball season. The previous
mark was thirty four and it was Mark McGuire. He
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So the baseball trade deadline later on today and probably
a flurry of activities with the National League East, but
a lot of middle relievers were exchanged. But one big hitter,
(01:58):
Uheno Swarez is from Arizona to Seattle Sea. Ana's got
a good lineup, sneaky lineup there. So the Hall of
Fame game coming up tonight, and we'll talk to CC Sabathia,
Philip Rivers will join us, and Justin Herbert will join us.
Coming up here in a little bit, Rob in Orange County, Hi, Rob,
(02:18):
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
By Dan? And thank you for having me. You know,
I just wanted to share a little Phillips Rivers story.
Two of them there, PG. But he used to live
in Santa LUs with me, and there's two. We went
to the same church, Church of the Nativity. And after
we signed his second big contract, I walk outside and
I see him change in one of his kids diapers
(02:43):
and the back of his I think it was an
esca ladder or something like that, and it's just what
a humble Manny is, you know, great guy. And then
the second funny story is we used to play basketball
at Santa Luis and you was a basketball expert. Dan
would no, you got to pass the ball open up shots. Well,
a friend of mine who's also famous, but I didn't
(03:03):
I'm not allowed to use his name right now, said Philip,
aren't you don't you play in the NFL. And Philip said,
of course, you know that, and he said, well, they
passed me the damn ball. He was slam duncan all
the time. And it was just funny. And Philip's a
great guy anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
All right, Well, thank you, Rob. He's got ten children.
I think he's got a sprinter vent. I think I
asked him the last time about that. Can you get
everybody into one vehicle? I think he got himself a
sprinter van. I think his youngest is six oldest is
probably eighteen, but I think he's got ten. Yeampau.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
How many college quarterbacks come out of that group gotta
be like three, right, odds are genetics.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I don't know how good the arms are on his
daughter's right, you know, I don't want to exclude them.
Maybe they're playing flag football, but yeah, you should be
able to get a couple of them out of that.
Eric in Wisconsin, Hi, Eric, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (04:03):
DP six foot five, two thirty five, Long time, first
time I see you guys, got our voice CC coming
on the show later on. What do you think about
our first place Milwaukee Brewers this year?
Speaker 7 (04:17):
How do they keep doing it?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Give them credit? You know, it's not a fluke. It's
it's one of those where you look at middle of
May to now, I mean, this is incredible baseball that
they've played. Yeah, really incredible. And you probably got a
lot of players that most of the nation is not
familiar with, and it feels like the one player that
(04:40):
people are familiar with is your rookie pitcher, miss Rownski.
And he hasn't been there that long, but long enough
to make the All Star TiO. All right, we'll get
to more phone calls coming up. It's kind of interesting
when you get to preseason football because you're going to
watch quarterbacks who probably aren't going to play in the
regular season and maybe not even make the roster. Trey
(05:02):
Lance is going to play tonight. He's going to play
for the Chargers. I believe dj uey Ung la Lay
who bounced around, he is going to be the backup quarterback.
He was at what Clemson, Florida State, and then Washington State.
Does that sound right? Oregon State? Yeah, Dewey douje I
(05:23):
was calling him Dewey unglea Lay instead of dj uey
ungal Lea. But he is a backup quarterback there. Hendon
Hooker is going to be playing as well. He was.
I really liked him at Tennessee and he's the Lions
backup quarterback. That's kind of fun. I'm still curious about
Trey Lance. I just don't know how two bright minds
(05:49):
with the San Francisco forty nine ers are going to
say we're all in on Trey Lance and then Trey
Lance can't play football now. Granted he only played like
twelve games in his college career, but he bounced around.
Now as a backup quarterback with the Chargers. Got a
lot of talent, But I like, what's missing here? What
(06:16):
is missing? Because if you're watching somebody on film now,
granted you know, you can say he was playing at
North Dakota State, he had a perfect season, like they
won the title. I don't think he threw an interception,
so that you're just looking at him and go okay.
And he had mobility, he had all right, he had
everything ready to go. Niners like, that's our guy. We're
(06:39):
going all in John Lynch, We're going all in Kyle Shanahan.
And they whiffed on him, and then other teams Dallas
had him, And now can he play in the NFL?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Yeah, Pauline, I just double checked it. Trey Lance has
just turned twenty. It's not over. He was the youngest
player in the league his first year. He between San
Francisco and Dallas. He's made five career starts. His numbers
are mediocre, but he's not twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
But he wasn't better than Cooper Rush. And this is
the guy that the Niners went all in top five
pick and then he can't play. And I don't know
what the knock was on him, other than there wasn't
enough sample size, like, you know, twelve games or so,
but you're going to base it off of that. But
(07:36):
could he doesn't even come his name doesn't come up
in conversation of hey, we should trade for that guy.
Is he better than Anthony Richardson. I'm just throwing this out.
Anthony Richardson's, you know, got a lot of promise and
he's what twenty or twenty one years of age, But
Trey Lance was supposed to be the guy.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yeah, Paul, I think if you go back to it,
it was twenty and twenty or Trey Lance had thirty touchdowns,
one pick the title, but he was basically flawless led
them to the title. That was right after the Carson
Wentz to the Pros and Carson was great and people
were like, oh, this is the next Carson Wentz. People
fell in love with him. Then he had the next
(08:17):
year with COVID where I think they played one game.
It was almost like an exhibition.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
Yeah, so the.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Sample size on him was one season in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
But I thought there was somebody in between the East and.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Yeah, but I think there was a there was a
run on those one double A quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, but Easton Stick was with the Chargers.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Yeah, he was a backup.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, But I mean when you talk about a bust,
his name's up there, you can put him there with
Ryan Leave. But you know, here's the thing. We blamed
the player. He didn't draft himself. When we have a bust,
we should put the person who drafted him up there.
At least put the GM up there with the player.
(09:02):
Did Bobby Bethard draft Ryan Leaf with the Chargers or
did they have a different GM? Oh no, they had
a who was the GM at that?
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Alex Smith or a J. Smith was the president of that?
Speaker 9 (09:15):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay? But they should have There should be blame to
go around a little bit there, you know, JaMarcus Russell
with the Raiders who drafted him, Yes, Todd.
Speaker 10 (09:25):
Unless there's some type of arrogance where the person's like,
you're gonna all pay the price that you didn't pick
me sooner, then there could be some blame for the
play iff they're pushing how wonderful they are and they
turn out not to be.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Bobby Bethard's a Hall of Famer, the late Bobby Bethort.
He drafted, he was brilliant at drafting, but he drafted
Ryan Leaf, but you don't. That doesn't go against his resume.
But you know, when you have bust at quarterback, and
usually that's the only position we look at at a
bust just because you're you're going to spend that kind
(10:00):
of a you know, draft capital or that that high
of a draft pick on a quarterback and you know
the value that we attached to that position, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 11 (10:09):
Even guys like Achille Smith from the Bengals, and then, uh,
who's my man, Zach Wilson just recently, And it's a
combination of not playing well and a bad organization.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
But you're looking at guys who didn't play that much.
Zach Wilson didn't play that much. It goes back to
what my source tells me when he's analyzing these players.
How many games can I look at? Because I want
to see everything that happens. I want to see when
you have the five touchdown day. I want to see
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when you have the five interception day. I want to
see everything. But if I'm only seeing the good, because
the NFL is not just the good, it's the bad
and the ugly, and that's what you want to see
because you want to see in the maturity of a quarterback.
I want to see, all right, are you leading people? Now?
What are you doing? How are you doing it? Is
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it sustainable?
Speaker 7 (11:09):
You know?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Are you somebody who complains? Are you moping? Do your
teammates help you up after a sack?
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
There's so much that factors into this, and there's so
many things, the subtleties of being a great teammate. And
I think that's where you're trying to figure all of
this out. But how do you whiff on Trey Lance?
How do you go all in and so all in
that you go up and getting Mitchell Trubisky was a
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serviceable quarterback. I mean he he had one good year
of football. And that's where you know, we talk about
arch Manning as if he's going to be in Canton.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Now, does he have a head start, yes. Is he
far more athletic than any of his uncles? Yes? But
I don't know how great he is, Like how low
is the floor and how high is the ceiling? I
have no idea, And I don't think anybody can tell
you that. Steve Sarkisian, who played the position his head
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coach at Texas, I understand he should be able to
assess the talent there, but there's so much that goes
into this. How are you at the line of scrimmage.
How are you after you've been knocked down, thrown a
pick six? How are you as a leader?
Speaker 12 (12:28):
Like?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Do I think that he's been given, you know, the
answers to the test by Peyton and Eli. Yes, but
you still got to go out there and do it.
And I don't have enough of a sample size.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I've seen glimpses where I go, Okay, all right, I
like that he's athletic, but man, we've already penciled him
in for the number one pick next draft, and then,
if not that draft, the next draft. And I am
so sure not yet. Yeah, Paulie, It.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Does feel though with the NFL, the best thing you
could do is have that one monster year and jump
to the draft. Zach Wilson, BYU two years, he was
part time starter. Then his junior year he led the
nation and everything. Thirty seven hundred yards, thirty three touchdowns,
three picks. He never outstayed his welcome. But then you
look at a guy like Bo Nicks. Bo Nicks, I
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think had similar stats his last year, but it's like,
oh he was around a long time. What happened at Auburn.
We can't take him the top three, but bo Nicks
played like sixty college football games.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Deli in Chicago, Hi, Deli.
Speaker 13 (13:38):
Hey, Well, I was going to bring up the point
of Hi that I was going to bring up the
point of the comparison with Mitchell Trubisky, and he just
did it all right.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, thanks for the phone call. Yeah, I can't take
a one and Donner I just I would be nervous
about that. I want twenty five starts thirty. If I
can get that, let me take a break. We'll get
to more phone calls coming up eight, seven to seven,
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Speaker 2 (15:33):
More phone calls coming up hour from now. Philip Rivers,
former Chargers quarterback, the current Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert in
his sixth se You're in your sixth year.
Speaker 8 (15:46):
Wow, gone by? Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Take me back to your junior year. You had really
good numbers at Oregon. How close were you to coming
out after your junior year?
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (15:58):
Really not that close. You know, just the way the
season ended. I wanted to come back and make sure
that we ended on the right foot. And I still
feel like I had so much to improve and get
better at, and you know, I think that was something
that we accomplished my senior year.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And then you played what thirteen or fourteen more games,
and scouts like to have around twenty five to thirty
starts to be able to assess, So I think you
had close to forty forty five starts in your careers.
That sound about Ryan, Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
I missed six games my sophomore year with a broken clavicle,
so I feel like that was, you know, good film
to put back on tape.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
How's the relationship with coach Harbaugh?
Speaker 8 (16:36):
It's awesome. You know, he's an incredible coach. Everyone loves
to play for him. We just want to make him proud.
And you know, he's a competitor and I think that's
the best thing about him is he just wants to win. However,
you know, we go about it. That's his main focus.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
He's a little goofy though at times, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
I think that's a good thing.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
You know.
Speaker 8 (16:52):
I think, you know, to have a personality as a
coach is great. He walks into team meeting rooms and
you know, it's not always just football, it's you know,
it's it's more than that. And I think the guys
respect that, they appreciate that, and it makes it easier
to you know, relate to him.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
How would you assess his throwing motion, his arm?
Speaker 8 (17:11):
I actually haven't seen him throw a lot recently. I
think he's been catching more passes and you know, I
think his arms have kind of taken a toll and
but he can still throw if you need to.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Okay, you're being polite here, You're you're choosing your words
carefully there.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
I respect that man.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Does he go into the weight room with you guys?
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Yeah, he's in there all the time, he's lifting, he's uh,
he's getting in the cold tubs. He does everything the
player does. It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Wait, he gets in the cold tub with you. He
does well, not not like with me specifically, but oh
there's only room for one in the cold tub. No,
it could fit you know, fifteen fifteen guys.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
After practice, he's in there recovering and doing everything he
can to you know, maximizes his recovery.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
But his brother said that Jim gets in the the
ice tub in his khakis. Is that right he has before?
Speaker 8 (18:06):
I think it's maybe a you know, a time constraint
if he's low on time. Oh, okay, you just maximize
the recovery.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Okay, So you're not playing tonight, Are you going to
have an ear piece in headset on?
Speaker 8 (18:17):
I think so. I think that would be the plan,
just to be able to hear the play and you know,
talk about whatever I need to any input. No, probably not,
I think more so you know, when we're playing a game, uh,
Greg Roman and I will meet and we'll talk about,
you know, the plays that I do like what I
what I don't like. And I think that's a meeting
that happens with the quarterbacks the day before, a couple
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of days before, just to talk through it.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Help me understand the offensive philosophy, because statistically they weren't
great numbers, big numbers, but your quarterback rating was I
think your highest, and Jim loves to run the football.
So what how would you describe the offense the that
the Chargers will have this year.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
Yeah, I think for us to be successful, we have
to be able to do everything. You know, I think
it starts with our run game, you know, the offensive
line that we've put together and being able to run
the ball behind those guys. But then at the same time,
you know, that's what's going to open up our play
action game. And I think we had a really good
play action game last year, but something continued we can
continue to improve on. And then when we're running the
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ball well, I think we're going to pass the ball
well too. And and you know, being able to scramble
extend plays on my feet, you know, I think that's
something I wasn't really able to do much of last year,
but it is still a huge part of my game
and something that we need to do this year.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, we were talking about this yesterday that I go
back to I think the Rose Bowl where you had
your legs were on display. You had, you know, great
performance there. That You're around the same size as Josh Allen,
aren't you.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Yeah, I think I think might be a little lighter.
He's probably a little bit stronger.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
But can you run like he runs? Would coach Harball
let you have that kind of weapon.
Speaker 13 (19:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
I think one of the things that I really respect
about his game is how many times they run quarterback
power and you know he's running between the tackles and
he's able to take those hits and you know, deliver
a few of them. And you see how many touchdowns
he scores in the red zone, and just the way
he affects the game too. I think that's something that
we really expect and if we could emulate that and
kind of work that into my game, I think that'd
be really helpful for us.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
He's justin Herbert, Chargers quarterback. Sixth season, sixth overall pick
in the twenty twenty draft by the Chargers. He was
the Offensive Rookie of the Year, made the Pro Bowl
in twenty twenty one, give me the quarterback or quarterbacks, Like,
do you sample from quarterbacks and say maybe I could
use that, I could put that into you know, my repertoire.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Yeah, for sure. You know, especially coming out of college,
that was one of those things where you watch a
lot of film on the on the NFL guys, and
at the time we were watching Tom Brady just how
you know he did everything footwork wise, was you know
the best. We watched a lot of Matt Ryan with
his you know, play action fakes. You know, I think
that was something that we always talked about, how quickly
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he snapped his head around, was able to get his
eyes downfield, and then Drew Brees his footwork too, and
just the way he went through his progressions and played
the quarterback position. I think those three guys were you know,
really important for me watching.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Okay, explain footwork with Tom Brady, What exactly is that
and is it teachable?
Speaker 8 (21:21):
Yeah? I think you know, the easiest way to describe
it would be just to time everything up with the route.
You know, a short route is going to have quicker footwork,
and you know a longer route play action is is
going to time it up and one of the things
that I always try to avoid is is standing still
in the pocket and just you know, bouncing around because
you have a tough time seeing when you're you know,
you're going up and down, and you know, as long
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as you're in rhythm and your your feet are aligned
with how deep the receiver is going to get, you know,
I think it makes it easier on the throw and
definitely easier you know, stepping up in the pocket as well.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Okay, but what's that clock like in your head when
you go back to pass? At what point do you go,
uh oh, like, I now I gotta start and I
gotta have my head on a swivel.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
As soon as you get to the top of your drop,
where you're where you're dropping back, and you know, it's
it's either a quick setup where you're hoping the ends
go around you and the tackle is push them up field,
or you're finding a lane to run through. But it's
it's quick, and you know, that's just how how fast
those guys are on defense, and you gotta protect them all.
You gotta avoid sacks. And you know that's something that
you know, Coach Harbaugh talks about all the time. So
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we're gonna get better at that this year.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
What was your welcome to the NFL hit?
Speaker 8 (22:35):
I would say I was rolling out one year, tried
to make this this play where I could spin in
the pocket and just kind of run around, and then
I got hit by Max Cropby and I didn't even
see him, and uh, that was when I was like, Yeah,
these these guys are much faster than I am. I
I got to be able to step up throw it away.
Taking a sack is not the worst thing, but you know,
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running into that thing that was.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Well, and you know Peyton and Tom Brady, two of
the greatest ever, had no problem just kind of going
into the fetal position instead of you know, you left
to live to call another play. And that's hard for
you because in college and high school you could get
away with this stuff. In the NFL, you can't. How
tough is that to go just take a sack or
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just throw it away.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
Yeah, that's that's the tough part, because, like you said,
high school and college, you'd be able to make some
of those plays, and you know, you'd get reward for
making a crazy play like that, and then you come
to the NFL and you know, everyone on defenses is
faster than you and you know, sometimes it's okay to
you know, wave the white flag, go down and live
for another play where you know, a sack is is
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not as bad as a fumble and a throwaway is
not as bad. So it's just kind of living through
that list and making sure that you're you're protecting the
ball and putting the team in a good position to win.
Who's your rival, shoot, I would say We've We've got
a lot of rivals. I definitely would say the Chiefs,
Raiders and the Broncs. I think the AFC West is competitive,
and you know, we've we've definitely, you know, had our
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fair share of competitions with those guys. Chiefs have gotten
us the past few years.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
But do you hate, like, do you hate one of
them a little more than the other ones?
Speaker 8 (24:16):
I would just say that the it's been a little
upside of the past couple of years, and that's just
something that we you know, we've got a great opportunity
to play them twice this year, and you know, we
know how good they are and how much success they've
had in the league over the past several years. So
it's always a good opportunity for us to go play
and be the team that we want to be.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
What advice would you give a rookie quarterback. Let's say
cam Ward calls you up and said, give me some
advice on what it's like.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Yeah, I would say to sacrifice now so you can
enjoy everything later. Just to go through everything and you know,
watch an extra hour of film, you know, do an
extra hour of recovery, make sure you're taking care of
your body, and you know there's always going to be
times to you know, go hang out with your friends
and do all these extracurricular activities. Uh, but right now,
you're a quarterback. You know, a team, has a franchise,
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has put their trust in you to leave this entire
organization and to make sure that you're doing everything you
can for your teammates, the coaching staff, the community, because
it's really important. And at the end of the day,
if you're doing that, you're you're in good steps.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Wait, did you give me an organ organization? Did you
give me a Canadian organization?
Speaker 8 (25:23):
Organization?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, it sounded like, you know, maybe maybe that's Canadian
you were, you know, proximity there. But the organization you
gave me an organization which is what they do in Canada,
so don't want you to think too long and hard
about them. Maybe if you know any Canadian roots in
your family.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
I don't think so, not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Okay, I just want to make sure you gave me
a little organization. Hey, great to see you again, and
uh we'll be uh well, well you're not going to
be doing anything tonight, so I was going to say,
we'll be watching, but you're going to be watching too.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
I'm going to be sporting the team. I'm gonna be
out there, you know, offering help whatever I can. So
thanks for joining us. Yeah you bad, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
That's Justin Herbert. Last year regular season stats twenty three
and three, twenty three touchdowns, three interceptions, thirty eight hundred
yards like those are all really good numbers. But then
you know that coach Harball loves to run the football.
But that can make as you know, Justin says he
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play action. Now all of a sudden they buy into
play action. I always thought it was funny when you'd
see these teams that couldn't run the football, but they'd
run play action. And I'd be like, if I'm a
defensive player, I'm going to expect you to pass all
the time, because if you want to run the ball,
give it to your running back. We'll be fine with that.
We can adjust. But I always thought Boomers size and
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might have been the best play action quarterback that I
ever saw. With his ability to look like he was
handing the ball off. I thought slight of hand. The
Siasin was magical.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
He was great.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
And what they'll do, you know, you want to have
people watch. It's like pictures will do this. They'll be like,
watch me, watch film, Tell me what you see? What
am I doing? What can you tell that it's going
to be that pitch. You want somebody to look at
you and give you honest opinions on that. And it's
the same thing with the quarterback. Look at this from
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a defensive backs perspective? Are you buying this with my
play action? And then he's talking about footwork that I'm
looking at Drew Brees footwork. I'm looking at Tom Brady's footwork.
And what he's talking about is you get in the rhythm,
you know, because everything's timed, you know, fractional seconds here,
it's so so quick, and to be able to have
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rhythm it's going to be a seven yard out, it's
going to be something fifteen over the middle, it's going
to be a deeper pets. So everything's going to be
in rhythm. And I think that's what Tom did so
well because it looked like Tom. All he did is
just stand there, but while he did all the other
little things that he did. And quarterbacking is is about
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stuff that you do that's on the periphery, like the
subtleties of what you do and being able to do
it and do it in a way that's convincing, knowing
where somebody is. The eyes. You know, these defensive back
talk about quarterbacks eyes all the time, and you know
sort of that game within the game of all right,
I'm going to lead you over here, leads you over here, No,
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I'm throwing over here. Well, the defensive back is doing
the same thing. He's oh, I'm going to act like
I'm going over here. I know you're going over here.
I'm fascinated with the game within the game. Yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I saw a piece just the other day about this
with Joe Burrow, and they said Joe Burrow is not
a scrambler nor a runner. He's just a motion pocket guy.
That's the phrase they used, Like he moves in the
pocket without leaving the pocket, but he always has his
eyes downfield. He never turns his head to look at
what's around him, and that keeps a play a lot.
But they were focused on how his head stays downfield
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while his feet are just shuffling.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
A couple of phone calls in here Chris in Vegas, Hi, Chris,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
They're going DP.
Speaker 9 (29:15):
I just wanted to go back to the whole quarterback
situation as far as like not having enough starts and
being younger guys. I think a lot of these guys
that are coming in should It's almost like it's mandatory
they should sit.
Speaker 13 (29:27):
You know, you got guys that go to.
Speaker 15 (29:28):
Bad situations and then they get label bus you know,
I e. Johnny Manziel or even Baker Mayfield and then
Baker goes to Tampa Bay and he's super successful now.
So like I just feel like these guys need a
more little bit more time, you know, let him sit,
let him get the Aaron Rodgers treatment or some of
these other guys that have sat and have learned and
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didn't become successful.
Speaker 9 (29:53):
I think that it.
Speaker 15 (29:54):
It just goes back to that, like they're not getting
enough knowledge of the game before they get thrown into
the fire.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Well, let's take Johnny Manziel out of that, because Johnny
wasn't mature. You know, Johnny wanted to play by the
seat of his pants like you did in college, and
you can't do that in the pros. H Baker, I thought,
and he played well a couple of seasons in Cleveland.
I just think it started to go south when they
got Odell Beckham and he wanted to Playkate obj and
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went out of his way to try to find him.
And Jarvis Landry to me, was a better wide receiver
with the Cleveland Browns. But you know what happens if
you're a young quarterback and you got a guy who's
six or seven year veteran wide receiver, tight end or
running back and or like, hey, I'm open man. And
I think that's hard too, because you're in you're in
the huddle, and these guys will talk to you, they'll
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come back and say something to you. How would you
act react to that? But they've played so much. Cam
Ward probably has fifty starts in his college career. Jayden
Daniels had over fifty, like sixty, Dylan Gabriel sixty. I mean,
that's an incredible amount of football that you've played, and
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so I have a better sense of who you are,
what kind of player you are. You know you're playing
twelve or fourteen. That's just tough. And even Justin Herbert,
I thought Justin Herbert was going to be more like
Josh Allen. I thought that because if you go back
to that Rose Bull, I think he had a couple
of long touchdown runs or at least one long touchdown run,
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and I thought, you know, get him out, let him
use his legs now, don't invite contact like Josh Allen does,
but I would. I would have him out there and
just give you something else to think about. Bud in
South Carolina High, Bud, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Guys?
Speaker 12 (31:50):
Good people talking about the quarterback situations, everything like that
about said or Sanders and everything. But no one realized
that Charlie Ward went to Florida State one nights and
talking didn't even just selected.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
In the NFL.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Well, they thought that he was going to play basketball.
And we've had Charlie on the show, and I think
Charlie could have been a good NFL quarterback, but it's
it's a different era now. Now we want the quarterback
who will get out on the edge, the guy who
can be a runner, not just a thrower. You know,
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let's go back to Lamar Jackson. I kept I watched him.
I go, that guy's great, the guy's great, and then
it'd be yeah, but it's throwing motion. But bah blah,
but but but but but but buck and I always
look at this and go, you still have to deal
with him.
Speaker 13 (32:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
He may not be the prototypical Dan Marino, Matthew Stafford
stand in the pocket, you're sixth he's not, but he's
something different. It's the ability of offensive coordinators to have
an imagination, to to not be locked in on this
is how you play football. And that's what's changed dramatically.
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You know, football used to be boring. It was run, run,
third down, five yards, first down, run, run, throw the ball, punt.
Then it started to you know, get a little money.
The AFL opened the eyes of the NFL because it
was wide open. Then you bring along Dan Marino with
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what he did. It was just different. Five wide, don't
need a running back, and that changed football as well.
You know what the greatest show on turf did? You know?
So there have been some innovators, but then you still
have kind of the old school that says, no, this
is how my quarterback is supposed to play. It's changing.
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Charlie Ward was a great athlete and he was six',
three but he did have a good END nba. Career
he probably you had a better career in THE nba
than he would had THE. Nfl probably made some pretty good.
MONEY i think he's now a high school. Coach, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
PAULING i went back to that ninety THREE nfl draft
When Charlie ward did not get, picked and it's all tall,
Guys Trent, Green Elvis, Gerbach alex Van, Pelt Mark, Brunell Rick,
Meyer Drew, bledsell all, classics six' four drop. Back quarterbacks
you can maybe make the Case That michael vick broke.
The mold was that two thousand and one where he
(34:33):
was so electric that he pushed his way to the
number one pick where he's run first.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Past, second yeah but then you had, people, say well
he's not a, great passer a great, pocket PASSER and i,
always go but look at what he what else. He
does he's putting so much pressure on. A defense i
mean when he Was In, virginia tech.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
It.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
Was amazing he.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Was, Amazing Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Martin Else Freshman michael vick also.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Good point. Good POINT but I unless i'm wrong. On That,
WITH charlie i think that he was going to play IN.
The nba did He get was he a third round
pick or IN. The nba i'm trying. To remember it
feels like he was a late first. Round, pick oh
he was a late first round pick IN. The, nba, Correct, right, okay,
(35:25):
okay yeah he was wonderful. College quarterback, all right let
me take. A break got more. Phone Calls philip RIVERS
And cc sabathia coming up in the final hour of.
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poll results and then we're gonna talk about betting on.
(36:13):
Preseason football dylan's going to join us on loan From
The Dan patrick Takes a. Gamble podcast so if you'll
update the, Poll, Results, seaton yeah i'd dabby if you
had to give up one, watching football meat. Or beer
and then the other question is if you had to
give up one, watching football meat or alcohol. And cigars
it is a fairly shocking to me, that beer alcohol
(36:37):
and cigars is running away. With that and then it's
almost an even tie between football. And meat we find. That,
interesting okay that's each one of those has about ten
percent of. The vote fritzie stood Up so dylan could.
Sit down dyl part Of The, gambling podcast the latest
episode later Today With bad Larry And. Shan, Irming, so
(37:00):
dyl what do you have for a preseason football? Action tonight, All, Right,
dan well it's sort of like The Degenerate new. Year,
today yeah. Everything's fresh we've got a. Good one i'm
going With the lions minus one and a half Against. The,
chargers okay for one, Specific reason dju looks like he's
(37:21):
going to play in the, second half and he is
squarely on my list of unbettables.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
From, college okay.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
So he's going to be Leading the chargers in the
second half that according to. The, internet okay he's, always reliable,
always reliable, All Right.
Speaker 16 (37:41):
And i'm going to Take the chargers over one twenty
five team rushing yards between Him And. Trey lance they
may get that on, their, own okay, all Right sprinkle
Omari and, Hampton.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Too okay anything else that we should be.
Speaker 16 (37:58):
Aware of race to, Twenty points dan neither plus one Thirty.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Five finals, Nineteen sixteen no the over unders. Thirty, Two
yeah i'm thinking maybe like a sixteen fourteen Would Be
i'm i'm gonna go. Seventeen fourteen i'm gonna, go under and,
once again entertainment purposes. Only, only YEAH because i used
to bet on preseason football and that. Was sad it's
(38:26):
a sad State of but back then you had players
who did play in. The preseason at least you had
a reasonable facsimile of the lineup that you would have
during the. Regular season, Thank. You Dylan that's Dylan From
Dan patrick Takes a. Gamble Podcast, hey dylan Available at danpatrick. Dot,
COM yeample i have a follow Up. For, dylan oh
as an.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Expert, gambler, well no he's not AN expert a season, the, gambling, yes,
okay yeah. TECHNICALLY professional i know you guys, miss gamblers,
miss football so you bet. On preseason but isn't preseason
football the least predictable of?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
All?
Speaker 16 (39:00):
SPORTS yeah i mean it's really stupid. To bud you
have had no idea. Who's playing it doesn't really matter,
at all there's nothing on. The LINE but i think
any gambler will just say it is something to. Bet
on i've been on, spring, training, Yeah, Baseball yeah i've been.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
ON that, i mean if you want, to bet you
can pretty much place a bet on just about any
kind of, sporting Event as dylan. Has proved oh, yeah,
yeah cricket sign. Me UP oh, i know, Thank. YOU
dylan i thank More. From dylan that'll be later on
today at danpatrick. Dot Com dan patrick takes, A gamble Jack.
(39:40):
And tulsa, Good. Morning jack what's on your? Mind today good,
morning morning long.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
TIME listener i, love you, love YOU said. Espn, DAYS
yeah i got two. Quick things yesterday you were Talking
About brad pitt was side club when you knew he.
Could act he had already been Nominated For Best actor
Oscar For, twelve monkeys which was a bizarre, surprise ending
(40:07):
kind of M Night seah, milan movie really. Crazy movie
the ending was kind of. A surprise the other, thing
is we're gonna hate when you leave your, Life family
why don't you keep? It going call the New Show
Dan Patrick's dan hits with a rotating host every week
or guest host. Every week we don't want to see.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
You, go well, Thank.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
You.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
JACK now i made up my Mind super Bowl. In
atlanta my career Started in ATLANTA, at cnn and it
seems like a fitting place to say goodbye. AFTER that i,
don't know, you know is there something down the road
where it's a once a week PODCAST or i. DON'T
know I just i made a Decision and i'm comfortable with.
(40:56):
That DECISION and i didn't See The Brad Pitt. TWELVE
monkeys i did not. See That But, fight club. That's
Great brad pitt was great in. That movie but, in fairness,
you know getting nominated For An, ACADEMY award i did not.
SEE that i didn't See The the vampire Movie With.
Tom cruise what was that in Set In new orleans
(41:19):
interview with, The, VAMBERIS yeah i didn't see that. ONE
either I don't i don't know if he was good
in that movie. Or not, but yeah there's usually a
movie where, you go that's when that guy became or
she became something more than. Just that, all right Coming Up,
final hour gonna. Be busy Ce see sabathia fresh Off
the Hall, of fame and we'll Talk To, Philip rivers fritzy's.
(41:41):
Favorite quarterback are you gonna say anything to him that
you have called him? A whiner i don't. Think so
if it comes up, IN conversation i have to stick to.
Speaker 10 (41:51):
My Guns but i'm not looking at stunts.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Up there you won't answer the phone, and, say hey. No,
Whining no i'm gonna hang under the table and duck for. Coverage,
that no you to answer the phone when, he CALLS
but i won't.
Speaker 13 (42:01):
Bring up the.
Speaker 11 (42:02):
Whining Thing chos.
Speaker 10 (42:03):
He Whines
Speaker 2 (42:06):
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