August 1, 2025 • 50 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP reacts to Terry McLaurin's trade request and the NFL Hall of Fame game. ESPN NFL Analyst Louis Riddick believes McLaurin has a real case for a trade if Washington doesn't meet his number, and praises Trey Lance's game last night. Plus, have we ever had a division with 4 Hall of Fame coaches? The AFC West is looking to be that.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, we made it to a Friday. It's a meat Friday,
but our chef is down for the count. Dylan got
hurt yesterday afternoon playing pickleball and once again not having
Tyrol pickleball shoes on, so he has got a banged
up ankle so much so he didn't even tell me
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what the menu is. I don't know what we're having
for meat Friday right now, but Dylan is here, as
he said, Hey, I'm at least here to try to
put on this Friday meal. I don't know what we're having.
He doesn't have the energy to I guess write that
down or type that up, so I can't have you
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live vicariously through us. I'm not quite sure what we're having.
But yes, yes, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I was told we're having Lambergers in chicken slovaki.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Okay, So who's got it better than we do? Oh boy? Well,
he doesn't know if he can go all the way
through and make the meal. So now you got Tyler.
Tyler used to do the job, so now he's bringing
Tyler in. There's a little bit of friction because Tyler
lost his job to Dylan and then weeks our cameraman
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is helping out in the kitchen. It's kind of a
mess right now. Normally Meet Friday is a great day,
a great moment for us. But it feels like there's
some tension in the room. Yes, Tom Tyler's.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Spinning a spatchel around. Is that like warming up in
the bullpen.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
He's got like different cooking equipment that he's just kind
of flipping around back there.
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we had football ish last night, and depending on your
viewpoint here, if you're a Lions fan, then you probably go, yeah,
what's preseason? It doesn't really matter. If you're a Chargers fan,
you go look pretty good last night? Yeah, I'm thinking
AFC title game. We're running the football there. That's Jim
Harball football. That's what it is right there. Trey Lance
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looked pretty good last night. And if you're a Charger fan, okay,
you got to be happy. But it's interesting how you
can have an approach where the game doesn't mean anything,
or the game means a little bit more than it's
supposed to. That's preseason football, and preseason football isn't pretty
because it's a prime example of hey, let's just get
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out there and let's take our organized scrimmage and just
put it on national TV and you'll be able to
see warts and all kind of what's going on. Preseason
a series of glorified tune ups, but it's still entertaining,
and you know, you're trying to watch a little bit
and just kind of gather, all right, what's this mean?
Or who's that player. Sometimes it's just a vibe. You know,
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you're watching Dan. You know these are two of the
more animated coaches, with Jim Harbaugh and Dan Campbell. And
then it's the Hall of Fame weekend and you're celebrating
all those players. We're going in players who come back
for that. Brett Mussberger was in the booth last night,
and you end up telling stories more than showcasing the game.
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But it was fun. But football is here. We have
turned the page. We're in the month of August and
it's a full speed ahead except for the commanders with
Terry McLaurin, because now he's requested a trade and you
start to these things normally work out, But at what
point do you go if you're Terry McLaurin, the point
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of no return because he wants to be paid more
than thirty million dollars. I don't know if it's thirty two,
thirty three million dollars. He's a big reason why Jaden
Daniels played so well last year. And you brought in
Deebo Samuel, but Deebo Samuel is not Deebo Samuel anymore,
and he's not the kind of receiver that Terry McLaurin
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is Terry McLaurin. If you throw it in his area,
he's going to get it contested catches. He was number
one in the NFL the last five years. This is
what you need with Jaden Daniels going into a second year.
You got momentum, you got the defending Super Bowl champs
in your division. And this is that hold up. This
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is that hiccup. This is something that could derail bigger
dreams that they have. But Terry McLaurin is req to
the trade from the Commanders. And I don't know if
this heats things up or the Commanders actually go all right.
But here's the problem. If I'm a Commander's fan, You're
not going to get dollar for dollar for Terry McLaurin.
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You're going to get draft picks because if you're trading
Terry McLaurin to a team, you're probably trading him to
a team that is a playoff team that might go, hey,
you know, the Chargers are a name that came up.
The forty nine Ers are a name that came up.
The Patriots a name that came up. I mean, there's
going to be teams that will be waiting and seeing
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what would it cost to get Terry McLaurin. You still
have to pay him, but you're going to get a
guy who's going to sign a new contract with you
and you'd have him probably for the next four years.
He probably looks around and goes, Okay, Courtland Sutton signed
four years ninety two million. Well, I'm better than him
or the same age. Brandon Ayuk got thirty million dollars.
(05:57):
I'm better than him. He's not better than cd L.
I am like you. Now you have to take inventory
and you have to be honest with yourself. Your agent
has to be honest with you and say, hey, I
don't think you're there. You're not in justin Jefferson Jamar
Chase category. Now are you the next level? Maybe? And
what is commensurate to you your production, your output? But
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that's I mean, that's a really really important situation here.
Now you got the Bengals with Trey Hendrickson. He's still
on the outside, but at least he's in camp. Terry McLaurin,
when you say, hey, trade me, that's a little bit different. Now,
you know, once again this comes down to war words leverage,
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and they could wrap this up, you know, probably in
a half hour meeting and say all right, I'll take this,
I'll surrender that next thing. You know, Terry mclaurin's in camp.
But you know, the potential for disaster here loom's pretty
big because Jayden Daniels, you want him to take that
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next step. Second year we see quarterbacks. Sometimes they take
a little bit of a dip, and I would love
to keep that momentum the best I can if I'm
the commanders. And sometimes it's a couple of million dollars.
And this goes back to what I've said about the
Cowboys situation with MICHAEH. Parsons. You're probably going to be
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spending eight million dollars more than you need to each
year with MIKEAH Parsons because you could have gotten him
for maybe thirty four million dollars. Now it's probably going
to be forty two. Well, this is where you lose
a couple of players. A couple of million dollars here,
now we have to let that guy go. It was
a couple of million dollars with Derrick Henry, and I
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go back to that a couple of million dollars you
could have had Derrick Henry who wanted to play for
the Cowboys is from Dallas. Wanted to play for you,
but a couple of million dollars. But Trey Hendrickson, Terry
McLaurin michah Park. Since I think all of them get done.
But it's only because I've been doing this for a
long long time and they usually get done. Somebody doesn't
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get traded and you have a hold in and that's
so they don't get fined. But it was football last
night and it was still fun. And you know, great
Hall of Fame weekend coming up there in Canton, Ohio.
Trade deadline Boy the art is formally known as the
Minnesota Twins. I would think program sales will probably be
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pretty high for the Twins fans because I think they
traded nine players over the past couple of weeks. So
nine of twenty six players on their major league rosters
were traded during the trade deadline period. Seven of them
were traded yesterday. Now, if I'm a fan of the Twins,
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if I know and I can trust the front office
that in three years from now, we might look back
on this and say, hey man, that was the turning point.
Look the players we got or the draft picks we got.
I don't know how many teams can sign up for
the Miami Marlins blueprint because they won two World Series titles,
and it felt like every five years, here they are,
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and then they take the wrecking ball to the roster
and then they build it back up again. You have
to have extreme confidence in your front office to be
able to do that. But Minnesota Twins traded nine of
twenty six players on their major league roster. All right,
eight seven seven three DP show email address DP at
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Say good morning to our radio affiliate. We have a
poll question, play of the day, stat of the day,
all of that forthcoming seatan poll question for the first hour.
Lewis Riddick of the Mothership will join us. Get his
thoughts on these holdout situations or hold in situations? Setan
(09:57):
what do you have?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
He's got one here from Paul? Uh, what's in worse shape?
Raised cart, Dylan's ankle or Todd?
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Hmm?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Wow? Okay, Todd? Are you in bad shape?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That could be a lot better?
Speaker 7 (10:15):
Shit?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Okay, Uh, raised car is going to get fixed because
Tyre rack will take care of that. Dylan will eventually
get healthier, and then he'll get I mean, I don't
want to set the bar. Well no, no, his ankle
will get healthier. Will it ever be this him again?
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Really?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I don't know he but he has to get the
Tyrol pickleball shoes. That'll help. But and and Todd takes
his daily I'm not going to pick on Todd today, bump.
Is that breaking news?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
That would be extremely breaking news. I'm taking the under
on that one if.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Okay, Now, I've been told, I've been told sources close
to me that Todd is going to take his shot
at me in a song coming up a little bit
later on kind of was a.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Shot at you, per se, It's a shot at something.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay, you got your Haul and Oates t shirt.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
On, I do send it a message?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yes, yeah, once again, you're gonna take a shot at me.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I guess, yeah, I guess I'm going to wait.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
For you to fire first. Once again. I don't start him,
I end him. Okay, Yeah, that's attitude. You come in piece,
you leave in pieces.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Wow, that's a shot that sounds like a pumper sticker.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Is that a movie.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It's it's a line from j Billis. He was in
a movie, and I think that was the line.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I thought Arnold Schwartz that I had said that in
some movie, like I come in piece, you go in pieces.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I thought. I thought Jay Billis was the one involved
in that movie or something. Can we I don't know
if I just made something up here say waite, are
you taking a shot at me?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I'm a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, I'm gonna be really sensitive today. Yes I am.
I'm going to be really sensitive. Okay, yes, Paul.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
I have I have that line I come in piece,
you go in pieces from a show called Dark Angel,
which I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Know, and was Jay Billis on Dark Angel. Yes, thank you, thank.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
You, back to you.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't I don't know if that's the stat of
the day. Marvin J.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Billis was on Dark Angel.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But did Dolph Lungren have the line?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Off Lundren, let's go, this just got even better.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
He's in the scene. Okay, maybe it's Dolph Lungren says
it to Jay Billis, something about showing up. You come
in piece, you leave in pieces. Yes, time was.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Jessica album and Dark Angel. That was some other Angel
TV show that's in't like I'm just asking friend.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Okay, okay, so uh, what's what's another poll question there?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
She wasn't a show called Dark Angel Jessica Helva, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Another thing on the cover of TV Guide.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
She got a new boyfriend. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. She
broke up with Cash Warren and she got a new boyfriend.
She cashed out, Thank you, Tom. What other poll question
do you have?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Then we go with Terry McLaurin. You trade him or
pay him? You can, I mean we can if you're
a commander, I got.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I gotta pay him. Okay, here's another topic and we
will have to have more time on this. If you're
a fan, are you on Terry mclaurin's side to say, hey,
he produced for us, he didn't have great quarterbacks prior
to last year. He was a constant, he was a
class act out of Ohio State. Or do you go,
come on, you're gonna screw up our season here? Because
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I think that's how fans react that, Hey, this is
about us, this isn't about you. Come on, you really
need third three million?
Speaker 6 (14:01):
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
So that I think that that that's the interesting part
of this. I think when fans see a holdout, they're
not on the player's side. With that holdout, we'll talk
to Lewis Riddick, former front office executive. He is a
former player, works for the Mothership. He'll join us. Coming up,
we will get to phone calls. Operator Tyler is sitting
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Speaker 2 (15:43):
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and Dylan wasn't wearing Tyrol pickleball shoes yesterday and he
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ro l pickleball dot com. We'll get to your phone calls.
Settle on a poll question. Lewis Riddick of the Mothership.
He's a ESPN, NFL and college football analyst and worked
in the front office of the Commanders and the Eagles
former NFL safety. Good to see you again. Let me
start with Washington with Terry McLaurin. He's requested a trade. Now,
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if you were working in the front office with the Commanders,
how would you read when that's it's not a demand
a request? What's that mean to you?
Speaker 10 (16:38):
It's basically the same thing to me, you know, in
the context of what he's saying, is if you're not
going to meet, if we're not going to be able
to kind of like come to some kind of agreement
here in terms of the pay raise for me, given
that I'm entering into the last year of my contract,
then just trade me. If you really, if we're really
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this far part as far as how we see my
value going forward, then go ahead and trade me, which
they're saying, Look, that's ridiculous, We're not going to do that.
You know, they're probably they're thinking, look, we still hold
the cards. We could wind up making him play out
this year and it's got the current salary franchising for
twenty twenty six, and then you know, let him be
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a free agent, as that there's a lot of things
that they can do that they don't that they can
do that really require them not doing anything at all,
which is just sitting there. And he knows that. And
then really the only recourse that you have as a player, Dan,
as you know, is the the only thing you recourse
you have is withhold services. So or asked to be
moved somewhere else. And you know, whether he's saying, look,
H'm requesting a trade, demanding a trade, obviously he's ticked
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off because him and his agent, Buddy Baker, obviously see
his value going forward as much different and objectively based
upon how he played last year. They have an.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Argument, okay, but let's look at the what is reasonable
for it. Let's say you ran the Commanders. Yeah, you
want to sign him. He's better than Brandon Ayuk who's
getting thirty. But he's not Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson,
he's not Cede Lamb. So where is the landing spot there?
Speaker 10 (18:13):
I think I think you just said the magic number.
And I've been saying this on TV, I said it
on social media last night. I think thirty million is
the magic number for me that I think if I
was Adam Peters, I would be saying, Okay, look, this
is where this needs to be realistically. Now. If he's
thinking I need to be up here at thirty three
thirty four, then obviously I'm going, well, we probably can't
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get there. And we know that the sweet spot in
any negotiation and any ultimate deal is where you're not
happy with exactly where you got to, but you're not
dying over it either, And that goes for both sides
of the equation, both management and the player. And I
think that's the area where I would be like saying, look,
if we're here, then okay, I'm good with this. I'm
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good with this. And that's me trying to like remove
the emotion of how I feel about Terry McLaurin the
person and the player out of it, okay, because there's
no doubt that what he has done in the past
he has earned it. He has earned Look, he's earned
every penny that he has made to this point, and
I think if you were just going to factor in
what he has meant to this organization, you could probably
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make an argument for it being even higher. In the
thirty one thirty two area, you know, when we're just
taking into account the entire player. But from a strictly
business sense, I'd be comfortable with thirty million per year.
It sounds like from what I've heard that maybe they
may be looking for an average that's even higher than that,
that puts him into that stratospheric level, which I would
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be a little bit worried of doing as well.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
But do front offices pay you on what you've done
or what they think he'll do? Because Trey Hendrickson did
everything outperformed TJ Watt the last two years, Terry McLaurin,
he produced last year. But it feels like, yeah, but
you're thirty years of age. Now what are you We're
not paying you on what you did, We're paying you
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on what we think you can do.
Speaker 10 (20:04):
I say this all the time. Look, contracts are about
future performance projection. I say that, like almost annoyingly so
on TV all the time. And and I'm with you. Look,
but I also am someone who doesn't believe that thirty
years old all of a sudden, there is some kind
of big giant boogieman that people constantly lean on and say, oh,
but he's gonna be thirty, Like Okay, Well, if I
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really want to get technical, Terry's not gonna be thirty
until the middle of September. So what does that mean
for the look just I know people use that as
this line of demarcation to say, well, now the tide
has turned. Now it's nothing but downhill for this player,
and that's not true. It's just not true. I think
you have to take every one of these cases case
by case, understand what his history has been, as far
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as his availability is, durability as training, habits, his personal life,
all of that, and make a reasonable projection going forward about, Okay,
do we think we can get to ROI the return
on investment that we're looking for. And I think with
everything that I've heard is that he's not someone I
would bet against. I wouldn't be trying to negotiate against
what he has done in the past, because he has
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shown that he is an ultimate professional. And yeah, you
know what, there are also people who make arguments for
players based on what they've done in the past, almost
as if players deserve something, you know, a premium above
and beyond which you rationally think he may have earned
going forward simply because of how good of a pro
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he has been on and off the field, and Terry
Pibe falls into that category. What's interesting about this situation
is that there are people who are really split on this.
They really are. People are like, Hey, Washington, Adam Peters
should make his stand and Terry should just play out
the deal because he is going to be thirty and
he's not a great separator. He's not DK Metcalf, he's
not justin Jefferson. And then there's people who go, have
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you looked at the objective data on this guy? Have
you looked at the effect on the QBR in the
quarterback rating of Jane Daniels when they're targeting him. If
you looked at he let he was top three in
the league in touchdown receptions last year. Have you looked
at the number of first downs he produced last year,
which was up there with the elite players in the league.
Have you looked at how strong he is at the
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catch one, the number of contested catches he made in
the time, in the number of first downs he produced, Well,
why wouldn't you project that that's going to get better
this year? As Jayden gets better, the run game gets better.
They're in year two of this program. I would be
comfortable projecting his production to stay right where it is,
if not improving, based on all those factors. But you know,
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we have this tendency to want to say, well, he's
thirty years old and that there's no way he can
get better, just like saying the same thing about quarterbacks
that the year or two Jinxes is coming and that
Jayden won't get better. I think everything is trending the
right way in Washington. I hope they're able to land
somewhere in that low thirty range or maybe right around
thirty and Terry can get in there, because this could
be very, very very disruptive to this offense if it's
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one of these things that gets extended into the regular season.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I'm talking to Lewis Riddick of the Mothership. Would you
rather pay DK metcalf or Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
It's a great question. I would probably at this point
I would I would rather pay Terry's simply because of
the person and the player, and how much I trust
the player and how much I know that the effect
that he has on the football team from a just
from from a cultural standpoint, and I know this going
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back to his days at Ohio state.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
I love.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
I love this dude when he came out and he
was someone who was kind of like severely overlooked, and
I think he's still being overlooked and a little bit
disrespected now. But see what people fall in love with
is the fact that DK is huge. He's an absolute freak,
he's fast, he has a flair for the dramatic. I
just want to steady, consistent producer that if you know what,
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if you ramped up mclaurin's targets to the degree, like
say like a Jamar Chaser Justin Jefferson had, you'd see
the kind of production that you just couldn't deny. But
then there's this there's this aesthetic, you know, part of
this thing where you sit there and go But he's
not six' four and he's not two fifteen and he
doesn't run four too, well get off of that and
just look at the game and watch him play and
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what he means To Jayden, DANIELS i think that's all
you need to.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
See what do you look for in a preseason?
Speaker 10 (24:20):
Game, Yeah i'm a little bit of a geek. MAN i,
LIKE i love watching all the second and third round.
PLAYERS i, like you know WHAT i like SEEING i
mean second and, third, second, third, fourth fifth round guys
who are really just fighting to kind of make a.
Team WHEN i look FOR i look for the uncovered.
GEMS i look for execution amongst the guys who you
know are going to be on the football team regardless
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of the level of competition they're playing.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Against, okay but what did you see From Trey lance last?
Speaker 11 (24:46):
Night?
Speaker 10 (24:46):
Exactly that's my. Point that's just WHAT i was gonna get.
To it's about execution For. Trey it's about the comfort
level For. Trey it's about the timing that he played,
with the accuracy that he played, with the fact that
he played with his shoulders back and he was kind
of had his and he was like he was feeling.
Good he never has looked like. That he's never looked
like that in his. CAREER i don't care if it
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was against The lions And canton at A hall Of fame.
Game Jim harball is having some kind of effect on
this young, man and he has finally hit his. Stride
after being so green coming out of college with such little,
Playtime he's finally hit his. Stride AND i think we
know this and you know this for, sure, man we
have seen in the recent past how much quarterback development
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is not a set thing in terms of its. Timing
you have to be willing to be more patient now
THAN i think you've ever, been simply because the variance
between organizations and programs is so. Great you just don't.
Know you just don't know how guys are gonna jail
from one place to the. NEXT i know it's only one,
game But i'll tell you. What in all my time
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of Watching Trade, lance AND i was a huge supporter OF. Treye,
lance AND i felt, Like, man DID i really just
blow that and get that? WRONG i saw something last
Night i'd never seen. Before i'm hoping he can continue
and he sticks there and eventually he gets his.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Shot BUT i don't think we're patient at. ALL i
think we're less patient because it used to be you
could be a number one pick and sit for a
couple of. Years, SURE i mean it doesn't happen like.
That It's, hey did you see WHAT. Cj stroud did
his rookie? Hear, hey did you see What Jaden daniels?
Did is rookie, Here Drake? May why can't all these
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quarterbacks be the? Same? RIGHT i, mean it's. Quick we
get you, in you, know into the washing, machine and
all of a sudden you come. Out how do you?
Smell if, Not i'm going to put you back. In
we'll move. On you, know it doesn't take long for
these teams to. Go we tried it for a year
or two. Years now we're going to go try to
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find our quarterback.
Speaker 10 (26:45):
Again, yeah you, know, Ironically Chris, beller we're just talking
about this in regards To Anthony richardson about the fact
that he has seen and he knows. IT i, know
gms are talking about. It he's, seen you know, recently
when you're looking at guys Like Baker mayfield and how
it took a little, bit you know for him to
kind of finally hit his, Stride Sam darnold and the
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kind of year that he had last. Year he has seen. That, hey,
look we need to be maybe we need to rethink
the amount of time that we give these, guys regardless
of where of where we drafted them and what our
initial expectations, are because everyone's just. Different the problem, Is,
look owners are, impatient fans are. Impatient we're just living
in an impatient world where we just want instant gratification right. Now,
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hell we have rookie quarterbacks in camp right now who
after one week they have a one bad period and
we're going bust get him out of, there get the
next guy in. There WE i, mean and we, Know,
look we've just seen cases where guys finally found their
found their right fit and then they finally take Off
Gino smith another. One but we don't. Care we don't
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care about. That we're, LIKE i don't. CARE i don't
want to wait that. Long either this guy shows me
right away out the, gate or we're moving on to
the next. Guy it's it's an interesting it's an interesting.
Case BUT i think With Trey, lance he's probably going
to be the next one that it'll be interesting to
see if he can continue on with this kind of
momentum and whether or not he ultimately gets a shot
to play somewhere else and actually play a lot of.
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Football because IN la he ain't playing ahead Of Justin.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Herbert well he's not only twenty five. EXACTLY i mean
that guys don't even really come into their. Prime and
now because they're coming in, young you, Know Anthony richardson
twenty years of. AGE i, mean you either know or.
YOU i think you either know right away that somebody
can or can't. PLAY i think you can see how they,
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prepare work, ethic, LEADERSHIP i mean all of that. Stuff
BUT i still go back To Trey lance AND i
go not enough sample size with. Games so he gave
me one miracle season At North Dakota. STATE i need.
More it's Like Zach. WILSON i need more because Bo
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knicks gave me Fifty Jayden daniels gave me sixty starts in.
College but NOW i know WHAT i. Have at LEAST
i have a better understanding of WHAT i. Have Mitchell
trubisky was really one good year in. College those guys scare.
Me Anthony richardson wasn't even a, starter consistent. Starter he showed,
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flashes but it wasn't enough for me to. Go he's
a top five. Pick, Yeah and that's. See that's the
that's the balance in the internal both individually and organizationally
fight that every team has every year when you're talking
about players who are supremely gifted who may not have
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the resume that you're talking, about versus players who have great,
production a long history or a much longer history of,
production but they may not be as.
Speaker 10 (29:48):
Gifted which way do they? Lean and a lot of
times because OF i, mean let's just be, honest because.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Of the.
Speaker 10 (29:57):
Let's, say the ego of people in THE, nfl and
we all have. It they, believe you know, WHAT i
can make this guy into exactly WHAT i want, him
because just look at these. Traits damn you gotta have these.
TRAITS i don't want this guy who's a little bit
lesser of an, athlete a little bit lesser of a,
player who may be topped. Out they always talk, about you,
know you always have these conversations about what is ultimately
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the ceiling of this. Player this guy's ceiling so much,
higher and with our great genius coaching and, development we're
gonna get it out of. Him we're gonna develop the
Next hall Of. Famer and that's the risk that you.
Take like With anthony in, Particular, look everybody In indianapolis,
knows and he knows himself that the biggest thing Holding
Anthony richardson back Was Anthony richardson and it was it
was the. Thing AND i wanted to jump in and
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say this while you were, talking BUT i didn't want
to interrupt. You but the biggest thing with him is
the maturity, factor the football character, factor the commitment factor
about it being constant and consistent and constantly trending the
way it needs. To because if he can get, that
and he is fighting an uphill battle, now especially what
happened with him down In, houston he's fighting that that
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image is burned into some people's brains for eternity and
no matter what he, does they're never going to feel
as though he has the has what it takes to
be a franchise. Quarterback but that's what he's fighting now
because from an athletic standpoint and a trade, standpoint you've
already seen him In indianapolis make throws that nobody can
make in the. League that's that battle all the. Time
and with Bow, knicks how many people killed Bow knicks
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coming out in the draft last year and, said Son
peyton doesn't know what he's. Doing what's he doing with this?
Guy doesn't have any? Upside this guy's he's Got and
now Now Sawn peyton's going see. See so, yeah it's
A it's a fascinating thing that front offices go through every.
YEAR i was.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Thinking about this with THE Afc west that you Got Andy,
Reid hall Of, Famer Pete, carroll maybe A hall Of famer,
Borderline Sean, payton Maybe hall Of, Fame Jim, harball hall
Of fame caliber coach with college En. Pro AND i was,
thinking and we had a that's had Four hall Of
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fame like coaches at the same, Time AND i thought
about The giants With, Parcells washington With Joe. GIBB i
don't know if they were all there at the same,
time but let's say Add Jimmy, Johnson Bill, Parcells dick
For meal with The, eagles And Joe. GIBBS i don't
know if they were there at the same, time but
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those are Four hall Of fame coaches in the same.
DIVISION i don't know if it was at the same. Time,
yeah it.
Speaker 10 (32:32):
Is The west has really for me exploded onto the
scene this year in particular because of what you're talking
about and will be THE i, mean there will be
some absolute cong Versus godzilla type battles all year.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Long, well how would you rank? Them So Andy? Reid
Andy reid is? Top, Yeah now who's the second best
coach in THE Afc? West, Peyton who's? Third?
Speaker 10 (33:01):
Oh, well, LOOK I i would say It's pete because
of What pete has done in THE nfl, already and
then and Then jim and, look there there are people
who will who will debate that bottom three guys or
the next three After andy and probably put all kinds
of different. Order but in my, experience, Look Sean, payton
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in my, experience is kind of like underrated in many.
Respects he doesn't get he doesn't he's not constantly in
the discussion as far as when we're talking about offensive.
Geniuses just good team, builders good coaches who are great
at utilizing players and understanding their strengths and. Weaknesses but
he's one of the Best i've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Doing but is he in the category With tomlin And John,
harball who both won A Super bowl and so Does Sean.
Speaker 10 (33:49):
Payton, Absolutely he's absolutely in that in that. Category And
i've Gotten i've had the, fortune you, know the good
fortune of being able to spend a lot of time
talking to both of those guys and talking To Sean.
Payton you shouldn't talk To Sean payton about. Football it
is a. Tutorial you will fill up. Notebooks you'll want
to write down every single thing that he, says and
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you can't argue with the way in which he has
built teams in conjunction with the gms he's worked with
over the, years and what he's doing In. Denver, Now,
Denver denver's gonna be right. There denver's gonna Give Kansas
city every single thing they can handle this. Year. Everything
they have a championship caliber, defense a championship caliber offensive.
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Line it's gonna be whether the quarterback can take another big.
Jump they've got, backs they've got wide, receivers and they
got a coaching. Staff they're gonna.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Be for real in two. Weeks i'll have you back
and you give me Your Super bowl pick, Deal i'll
give it to. You thank, you, man have a good.
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live final hour on This Meet. FRIDAY i don't know
how to describe the vibe in. HERE i don't know
if morale was, high IT'S i don't, know it's in.
DISARRAY i Think the tone was set last hour By
fritzi where he took a shot at me and my
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love of The beatles as he had a parody song
based Off We Didn't start The fire By Billy, joel
and after that it just started TO i don't, know
it felt like we were turning on each, other the
audience turning on each. Other thank, You.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
TODD i think.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
There's also, questions at least for, me about the. Menu
is it Gonna is that something we're excited? About are
we feigning? Enthusiasm i'm not sure about.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Today i'm gonna ask you what you think Of Meet friday's.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Menu i'm not loving this, one But i'm Hoping i'll
be pleasantly. Surprised that's just my honest assessment of WHEN
i heard that's what we were.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Having you can sit it out if you. Want i'll
give it a.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Shot i'm not shy about.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Consumer we're Having, Lambergers chicken, Solved, Locke skewers S, locke
And greek. Sald who is it better than we?
Speaker 11 (36:16):
Do?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Nobody No. Buddy stat of The day brought to you
By Panini, america the official trading cards of The Dan Patrick.
Show Good, morning if you're watching On. Peacock thank you
for downloading THE, amp and we say good morning to
our radio affiliates around the. COUNTRY i enjoyed the football last.
NIGHT i was happy For Trey lance thirteen to, twenty
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one hundred and twenty, yards a couple of touchdown, passes
and The chargers rough up The lions thirty four to.
Seven Trey lance has two regular season games with multiple touchdown.
Passes both came in his rookie season in twenty twenty.
One Who.
Speaker 11 (36:58):
Stand The?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Deck Stanaday Stanna. Day this is The stand of.
Speaker 12 (37:06):
The, day.
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Brought to you By Panadia. America and in case you're,
wondering did the outcome of last night change The Super
bowl odds this?
Speaker 10 (37:16):
Year it.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Didn't DraftKings just sent me The Super bowl. Odds it's
The bills and The ravens are tied at plus six
Hundred eagles plus seven Hundred chiefs plus eight Fifty lions
plus eleven Hundred commanders plus eighteen hundred and of course
The commanders Without terry McLaurin as he continues his hold
In AND i mentioned this. Stat over the last five,
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years there are four players with at least one thousand
receiving yards each, year Justin, Jefferson Mike, Evans DeVante, adams
And terry. McLaurin THE nfl does not pay you on
what you. Did they pay you on what they think you'll.
Do AND i think if he was twenty eight years
of this would not be an. Issue but you get
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to that number thirty years of. Age, well thirty is. Different.
Now thirty doesn't feel like, thirty, like oh my, god
you only got a couple more years left in your.
Career it feels like thirty all, Right you've got four
or five more really good. Years it feels like it's
an excuse not to pay. You AND i don't. Know
you're on the other side of thirty, here, yeah and
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that's happening With Trey hendrickson In. Cincinnati you're. THIRTY i don't.
Know Edge rusher over, thirty, okay gave you thirty five
sacks over the last two years. Combined but they're not
paying you on what you. Did it's what they think you'll.
Do and you still have the hold in. There Trey
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hendrickson and of course my com Parsons, seaton what's the
poll question for the final hour of this program at
least for the.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Week you are the final poll question of the.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Week just the, way that.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Is a lot of pressure right. There, yeah we have
a few of them up there right. Now two of
them Are terry McLaurin related in The COMMANDERS a commanders
And terry McLaurin should they trade him or pay? Him
sixty four percent of the audience have paying? Him and
whose side are you? On commanders Or terry McLaurin seventy
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seven percent or On terry's? Side? Good all, right good
feel that feels like a win for the.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Players, yeah let's go unless the season starts and he's
not there and then you blame him because he's screwing
up this dream, season potential dream, season.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Right there's plenty of time for that to. Change, yes of. Course,
yes we also have up there in worse, shape raised,
Car dylan's ankle Or todd right now with seventy six
percent of that, vote it Is Todd. Fritz, wow raised
car is only us five. Percent so, Yeah ray's getting
a new tire From Tyre rack. Today we're gonna we
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got him set.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Up dylan may have ligament damage with his ankle playing pickleball,
yesterday but he is. In he's our. Chef but it's
going to take a village for this Meet. Friday all,
right we'll get some phone calls in. HERE i brought this,
up AND i didn't do any research because we usually
don't do research on this. Show it's basically off. Memory
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but have we had a division where he had Four
hall Of fame caliber coaches at the same, Time and
that's WHY i brought up THE Afc west With Jim,
Harbaugh Pete, carroll you Got Sean, payton and of Course
andy some other. Ones two thousand and ONE Afc, West Mike,
Shanahan Mike, Holmgren dick For, Meal John. Gruden let's see
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nineteen ninety NINE Nfc, West Dan, Reeves Steve, Mariucci Mike,
Dick dick For. Meal mary uccis not A hall Of. Famer.
Okay some other people have some thoughts on. This reid In,
WISCONSIN i Read what's on Your mind?
Speaker 11 (41:00):
Today, hey what's up d the first time long? Time,
Uh AND i think that two thousand and FIVE nfc
should Have Bill, Parcells Tom, Coughlin Joe, gibbs And Andy.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Reid, okay, well thank.
Speaker 10 (41:16):
You.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Uh some people have sent in some pictures apparently in
the first HOUR i had my, hair some of it
was sticking. Up somebody said it looked like alfalfa from our.
Gang but now they're sending me pictures to show that
my hair was apparently sticking. Up is that, Right? Tod
that is? Correct, OKAY i.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
DIDN'T i didn't notice. THAT i would have said, something
or MAYBE i wouldn't. Have the other guys would have
told you.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Something so we can confirm at one point during the
show your hair was in fact standing, Up but it's
no longer doing.
Speaker 11 (41:42):
That.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Good, Good i'm.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Glad is it? Good we got to the bottom of? That,
yeah or the top of?
Speaker 10 (41:47):
That thank?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
YOU i think you're.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Good thank?
Speaker 11 (41:49):
You.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Todd are you enjoying this a little?
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Bit, okay not a, lot but a little.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yes, yes When todd's hair sticks, up you should tell.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Hell that would be like a just to keep it
even begin this book his historic.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Thing when's the last time your hair stood?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Up when did The broncos win that Second Super bowl
against The?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Falcons you had hair back?
Speaker 3 (42:08):
THEN i THINK i had some back. Then, okay but THEN.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
I still don't know why celebrity family. Feud in the
promotional picture has you with.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Hair that was.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Weird that was very, weird and we've asked for. Answers
the iteam was on this and we don't have anybody
who's going to give us a response of why they
put hair on.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
You and for the actual, show it's not like they
put something over it to make it look LIKE i had.
Hair so it was.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Odd, YEAH i don't know if this was you, know for,
Ratings hey look at him with hair like you look? Better, yes,
bully it was a social.
Speaker 8 (42:40):
Media post promoting celebrity family feud and they had us
in The Eisen show and there was no, joke there
was no like. Bit it was just out there And
fritzy had like two thirds of a head of hair
and we got no.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Responsible, well they didn't do that to Rich. Eisen they did.
Not don't know why they gave you.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
HAIR i thought it was initially just someone having, fun
like a you, know a fan of the, show thought
that would be cute to do, That but it actually
came from the show as some kind of weird promo.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Image paulie has Some Trey lance. Questions he looked good last,
night he looked comfortable last, NIGHT i should, say, granted
it's the first preseason. Game But i'm just looking for
anything from this, kid and he's only twenty five years of.
Age but it feels like the NFL's moving on from,
him that he's the third string. QUARTERBACK i think with The,
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CHARGERS i don't Think Justin herbert is hearing, footsteps are
looking over his. Shoulder Even Taylor heineke is a better
quarterback Than Trey. Lance, Yes, paul two part.
Speaker 8 (43:36):
Question Is Trey lance a bust or is it to be?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Decided i'm going to say to be decided because he's
only twenty five years of. It you're being, KIND i
am being. KIND i don't know if somebody's going to
give him a chance to be a starter.
Speaker 8 (43:52):
Again could you make the case that he was a
bust With San francisco but his career to be?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Decided?
Speaker 8 (43:57):
Yes can you unbust? Yourself in professional? Sports has anyone
ever been a bust declared and? UNBUSTED i have a,
Name but.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Was Baker mayfield a? Bus? No he had some nice, Years,
yeah but then he's on the practice. SQUAD i think
For carolina he couldn't be the backup. QUARTERBACK i think
with The rams.
Speaker 8 (44:20):
He was in danger becoming a, journeyman and he did
a cleanup On aisle.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Five he was, close, yeah to be in a, buzz.
Speaker 8 (44:28):
But he had too many above average years with The.
Cleveland he kind of paid off For cleveland. Early here's the.
Guy Alex smith was drafted number one By San francisco
ironically in two thousand and. Five his first year one,
touchdown eleven. Picks his second year improvement sixteen, touchdown sixteen.
Picks his third year injured a, lot two, touchdowns four.
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Picks he didn't play his fourth, year he's completely injured
with a shoulder. Injury he played a few more years
In San, francisco but at that point you could find
articles IN o eight myth is a, bust a lot
of them like it's not working. Out he cleaned up his.
Act he had four decent years With San. Francisco then
when he goes To Kansas, city he goes to Three Pro, bowls.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
But it felt like wherever he, went they brought in
somebody else who would take his, place you, know brought
In kaepernick And. Mahomes they went To washington and had
the terrible. Injury, Yes, MARVIN i.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Think another guy who may have unbusted Himself Sam.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Darnold, yeah, yeah that's a good. Point, yeah that's a good. Point,
See Zach. Wilson still is a, CHANCE i guess to
unbust himself new. Term by the, way we came out unbust.
Himself bob In New, York good, Morning. Bob what's on
your mind? Today, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
I'm, here BUT i.
Speaker 7 (45:48):
CAN'T i don't think you hit the.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Bunt, Yes i'm, Here.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
BOB i can't hear.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Myself that's kind of the way it, Works.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
BOB i don't know that you would hear yourself, Back Bud.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Connor And, Boise, hello, ALONG i can't Hear dan and you,
there you, There, Connor, yes.
Speaker 7 (46:13):
Sir thanks for me CALLING. Dp i'm calling about The
hall Of fame coach, issue AND i Think Pete carroll's
this will be a second time. Around in the ninety
seven anf The, east When carroll coached The, Patriots Jimmy
johnson coached The, Dolphins Mar levy coached The, bills And
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Bill parcells was on The. Jets.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, yeah that was brought up by another, caller but thank, You.
Connor Pete carroll was not A hall Of fame coach
at the. Time these are All hall Of fame caliber
coaches in THE Afc. West this isn't they they're starting
out their. Careers they've already Become hall Of fame worthy.
Coaches chad In? Texas did you give me the Other
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Trey lance?
Speaker 3 (46:59):
Question?
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Pauline that was?
Speaker 8 (47:00):
It the followup Was kenny unbusted?
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Blobs, okay all, right, Yes? Chad what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (47:04):
Today good, Morning, dan thanks for taking my. Calls six
foot two five, Dad. Bud, Hey i'm headed up to
here area this.
Speaker 6 (47:14):
WEEKEND i was just trying to get some.
Speaker 12 (47:16):
Recommendations my wife's in the wedding there In New, haven
SO i was trying to find out if you had
any recommendations far.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Us all? Right food, wise, yes, sir all. Right there's
a Sneaky italian place Called. Zenelli's, zenelli's and it's it's
right in the area where you. Have two of the
most famous pizzerias in the country are on the same.
(47:42):
Street But zenelli's they have more than just, pizza wonderful.
People uh there's outdoor seating and they're right across the
STREET i think From. Sally's, yeah just down the, ROAD
i mean right down the. Street, Yeah But. Zenelli's that's
On what's st In New. Haven if you're going for,
pizza you can get great pizza, there but they have
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some other things as, Well SO i would say Zen.
Ellie's the other places are going to have long. Lines
just letting you. Know if you're going there for a,
weekend there'll be long. Lines but hopefully you'll get good.
Weather looks like good weather for you, Traveling, chad thanks
for the phone. Call let me See rob In. Utah, Hi,
rob what's on your mind? Today?
Speaker 13 (48:25):
Hey, dan how's it going? Great i'm six, five three oh.
FIVE i had a trade idea for you Because terry
mclaurran wants to be. Traded Tyreek hill also at the
beginning the postseason said he wanted to be, traded so
swap him In miami also sends a third rounder TO.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Dc, well, okay the only problem with that is Is
Tyreek hill going to want to renegotiate his. Contract he
doesn't SEEM i don't know he does and seem. Happy
AND i wouldn't Want Tyreek. Hill he's unbelievable at, times.
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UNSTOPPABLE i just think it's all about. Him terry, McLaurin
by all accounts has been a great leader for The,
commanders and it hasn't been an easy task being a
leader with The. COMMANDERS i hope he gets. PAID i
hope he ends his career. THERE i think he's one
of those players that unless you watch The, commanders you
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really don't know About terry McLaurin because his numbers don't
jump off the charts as far as combine, numbers, like
oh my, god that guy's so. Fast he just as
a football, player you throw the ball up in his,
direction he's going to bring it. Down he was number
one in contested catches the last five. Years he's going
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to give you a thousand. YARDS i think he had
thirteen touchdown. Receptions he is a big reason why you
Had Jaden daniels have the season that he. Had it's
Like Steve smith With Cam. Newton When cam first came,
In Steve smith was. Unbelievable sometimes we just focus on
the quarterback AND i hope THAT i hope that they
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get this deal. Done uh trip In, Vegas hi, trip
what's on your? Mind?
Speaker 6 (50:20):
HEY, dp thanks for calling me. BACK i look forward
to seeing you all. Again FOR f ONE i had
as A Crappensburg state. ALUMNI i have two players that
we couldn't get THROUGH, nil BUT i have their. Nicknames
one Was Cooper. Flag he would have been The Cooper.
Scooper and then If Travis hunter went, here he would
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Well, we made it to a Friday. It's a meat Friday,
but our chef is down for the count. Dylan got
hurt yesterday afternoon playing pickleball and once again not having
Tyrol pickleball shoes on, so he has got a banged
up ankle so much so he didn't even tell me
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what the menu is. I don't know what we're having
for meat Friday right now, but Dylan is here, as
he said, Hey, I'm at least here to try to
put on this Friday meal. I don't know what we're having.
He doesn't have the energy to I guess write that
down or type that up, so I can't have you
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live vicariously through us. I'm not quite sure what we're having.
But yes, yes, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I was told we're having Lambergers in chicken slovaki.
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Okay, So who's got it better than we do? Oh boy? Well,
he doesn't know if he can go all the way
through and make the meal. So now you got Tyler.
Tyler used to do the job, so now he's bringing
Tyler in. There's a little bit of friction because Tyler
lost his job to Dylan and then weeks our cameraman
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a great moment for us. But it feels like there's
some tension in the room. Yes, Tom Tyler's.
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Spinning a spatchel around. Is that like warming up in
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He's got like different cooking equipment that he's just kind
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we had football ish last night, and depending on your
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what's preseason? It doesn't really matter. If you're a Chargers fan,
you go look pretty good last night? Yeah, I'm thinking
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looked pretty good last night. And if you're a Charger fan, okay,
you got to be happy. But it's interesting how you
can have an approach where the game doesn't mean anything,
or the game means a little bit more than it's
supposed to. That's preseason football, and preseason football isn't pretty
because it's a prime example of hey, let's just get
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out there and let's take our organized scrimmage and just
put it on national TV and you'll be able to
see warts and all kind of what's going on. Preseason
a series of glorified tune ups, but it's still entertaining,
and you know, you're trying to watch a little bit
and just kind of gather, all right, what's this mean?
Or who's that player. Sometimes it's just a vibe. You know,
(03:28):
you're watching Dan. You know these are two of the
more animated coaches, with Jim Harbaugh and Dan Campbell. And
then it's the Hall of Fame weekend and you're celebrating
all those players. We're going in players who come back
for that. Brett Mussberger was in the booth last night,
and you end up telling stories more than showcasing the game.
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But it was fun. But football is here. We have
turned the page. We're in the month of August and
it's a full speed ahead except for the commanders with
Terry McLaurin, because now he's requested a trade and you
start to these things normally work out, But at what
point do you go if you're Terry McLaurin, the point
(04:12):
of no return because he wants to be paid more
than thirty million dollars. I don't know if it's thirty two,
thirty three million dollars. He's a big reason why Jaden
Daniels played so well last year. And you brought in
Deebo Samuel, but Deebo Samuel is not Deebo Samuel anymore,
and he's not the kind of receiver that Terry McLaurin
(04:32):
is Terry McLaurin. If you throw it in his area,
he's going to get it contested catches. He was number
one in the NFL the last five years. This is
what you need with Jaden Daniels going into a second year.
You got momentum, you got the defending Super Bowl champs
in your division. And this is that hold up. This
(04:53):
is that hiccup. This is something that could derail bigger
dreams that they have. But Terry McLaurin is req to
the trade from the Commanders. And I don't know if
this heats things up or the Commanders actually go all right.
But here's the problem. If I'm a Commander's fan, You're
not going to get dollar for dollar for Terry McLaurin.
(05:14):
You're going to get draft picks because if you're trading
Terry McLaurin to a team, you're probably trading him to
a team that is a playoff team that might go, hey,
you know, the Chargers are a name that came up.
The forty nine Ers are a name that came up.
The Patriots a name that came up. I mean, there's
going to be teams that will be waiting and seeing
(05:36):
what would it cost to get Terry McLaurin. You still
have to pay him, but you're going to get a
guy who's going to sign a new contract with you
and you'd have him probably for the next four years.
He probably looks around and goes, Okay, Courtland Sutton signed
four years ninety two million. Well, I'm better than him
or the same age. Brandon Ayuk got thirty million dollars.
(05:57):
I'm better than him. He's not better than cd L.
I am like you. Now you have to take inventory
and you have to be honest with yourself. Your agent
has to be honest with you and say, hey, I
don't think you're there. You're not in justin Jefferson Jamar
Chase category. Now are you the next level? Maybe? And
what is commensurate to you your production, your output? But
(06:21):
that's I mean, that's a really really important situation here.
Now you got the Bengals with Trey Hendrickson. He's still
on the outside, but at least he's in camp. Terry McLaurin,
when you say, hey, trade me, that's a little bit different. Now,
you know, once again this comes down to war words leverage,
(06:42):
and they could wrap this up, you know, probably in
a half hour meeting and say all right, I'll take this,
I'll surrender that next thing. You know, Terry mclaurin's in camp.
But you know, the potential for disaster here loom's pretty
big because Jayden Daniels, you want him to take that
(07:02):
next step. Second year we see quarterbacks. Sometimes they take
a little bit of a dip, and I would love
to keep that momentum the best I can if I'm
the commanders. And sometimes it's a couple of million dollars.
And this goes back to what I've said about the
Cowboys situation with MICHAEH. Parsons. You're probably going to be
(07:22):
spending eight million dollars more than you need to each
year with MIKEAH Parsons because you could have gotten him
for maybe thirty four million dollars. Now it's probably going
to be forty two. Well, this is where you lose
a couple of players. A couple of million dollars here,
now we have to let that guy go. It was
a couple of million dollars with Derrick Henry, and I
(07:46):
go back to that a couple of million dollars you
could have had Derrick Henry who wanted to play for
the Cowboys is from Dallas. Wanted to play for you,
but a couple of million dollars. But Trey Hendrickson, Terry
McLaurin michah Park. Since I think all of them get done.
But it's only because I've been doing this for a
long long time and they usually get done. Somebody doesn't
(08:08):
get traded and you have a hold in and that's
so they don't get fined. But it was football last
night and it was still fun. And you know, great
Hall of Fame weekend coming up there in Canton, Ohio.
Trade deadline Boy the art is formally known as the
Minnesota Twins. I would think program sales will probably be
(08:29):
pretty high for the Twins fans because I think they
traded nine players over the past couple of weeks. So
nine of twenty six players on their major league rosters
were traded during the trade deadline period. Seven of them
were traded yesterday. Now, if I'm a fan of the Twins,
(08:51):
if I know and I can trust the front office
that in three years from now, we might look back
on this and say, hey man, that was the turning point.
Look the players we got or the draft picks we got.
I don't know how many teams can sign up for
the Miami Marlins blueprint because they won two World Series titles,
and it felt like every five years, here they are,
(09:14):
and then they take the wrecking ball to the roster
and then they build it back up again. You have
to have extreme confidence in your front office to be
able to do that. But Minnesota Twins traded nine of
twenty six players on their major league roster. All right,
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Say good morning to our radio affiliate. We have a
poll question, play of the day, stat of the day,
all of that forthcoming seatan poll question for the first hour.
Lewis Riddick of the Mothership will join us. Get his
thoughts on these holdout situations or hold in situations? Setan
(09:57):
what do you have?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
He's got one here from Paul? Uh, what's in worse shape?
Raised cart, Dylan's ankle or Todd?
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Hmm?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Wow? Okay, Todd? Are you in bad shape?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That could be a lot better?
Speaker 7 (10:15):
Shit?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Okay, Uh, raised car is going to get fixed because
Tyre rack will take care of that. Dylan will eventually
get healthier, and then he'll get I mean, I don't
want to set the bar. Well no, no, his ankle
will get healthier. Will it ever be this him again?
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Really?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I don't know he but he has to get the
Tyrol pickleball shoes. That'll help. But and and Todd takes
his daily I'm not going to pick on Todd today, bump.
Is that breaking news?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
That would be extremely breaking news. I'm taking the under
on that one if.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Okay, Now, I've been told, I've been told sources close
to me that Todd is going to take his shot
at me in a song coming up a little bit
later on kind of was a.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Shot at you, per se, It's a shot at something.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay, you got your Haul and Oates t shirt.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
On, I do send it a message?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yes, yeah, once again, you're gonna take a shot at me.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I guess, yeah, I guess I'm going to wait.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
For you to fire first. Once again. I don't start him,
I end him. Okay, Yeah, that's attitude. You come in piece,
you leave in pieces.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Wow, that's a shot that sounds like a pumper sticker.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Is that a movie.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It's it's a line from j Billis. He was in
a movie, and I think that was the line.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I thought Arnold Schwartz that I had said that in
some movie, like I come in piece, you go in pieces.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I thought. I thought Jay Billis was the one involved
in that movie or something. Can we I don't know
if I just made something up here say waite, are
you taking a shot at me?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I'm a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, I'm gonna be really sensitive today. Yes I am.
I'm going to be really sensitive. Okay, yes, Paul.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
I have I have that line I come in piece,
you go in pieces from a show called Dark Angel,
which I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Know, and was Jay Billis on Dark Angel. Yes, thank you, thank.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
You, back to you.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't I don't know if that's the stat of
the day. Marvin J.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Billis was on Dark Angel.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But did Dolph Lungren have the line?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Off Lundren, let's go, this just got even better.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
He's in the scene. Okay, maybe it's Dolph Lungren says
it to Jay Billis, something about showing up. You come
in piece, you leave in pieces. Yes, time was.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Jessica album and Dark Angel. That was some other Angel
TV show that's in't like I'm just asking friend.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Okay, okay, so uh, what's what's another poll question there?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
She wasn't a show called Dark Angel Jessica Helva, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Another thing on the cover of TV Guide.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
She got a new boyfriend. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. She
broke up with Cash Warren and she got a new boyfriend.
She cashed out, Thank you, Tom. What other poll question
do you have?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Then we go with Terry McLaurin. You trade him or
pay him? You can, I mean we can if you're
a commander, I got.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I gotta pay him. Okay, here's another topic and we
will have to have more time on this. If you're
a fan, are you on Terry mclaurin's side to say, hey,
he produced for us, he didn't have great quarterbacks prior
to last year. He was a constant, he was a
class act out of Ohio State. Or do you go,
come on, you're gonna screw up our season here? Because
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I think that's how fans react that, Hey, this is
about us, this isn't about you. Come on, you really
need third three million?
Speaker 6 (14:01):
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
So that I think that that that's the interesting part
of this. I think when fans see a holdout, they're
not on the player's side. With that holdout, we'll talk
to Lewis Riddick, former front office executive. He is a
former player, works for the Mothership. He'll join us. Coming up,
we will get to phone calls. Operator Tyler is sitting
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leading the charge. It's the first shoe built for pickleball,
and Dylan wasn't wearing Tyrol pickleball shoes yesterday and he
is laid up with a sprained ankle. So play longer,
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ro l pickleball dot com. We'll get to your phone calls.
Settle on a poll question. Lewis Riddick of the Mothership.
He's a ESPN, NFL and college football analyst and worked
in the front office of the Commanders and the Eagles
former NFL safety. Good to see you again. Let me
start with Washington with Terry McLaurin. He's requested a trade. Now,
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if you were working in the front office with the Commanders,
how would you read when that's it's not a demand
a request? What's that mean to you?
Speaker 10 (16:38):
It's basically the same thing to me, you know, in
the context of what he's saying, is if you're not
going to meet, if we're not going to be able
to kind of like come to some kind of agreement
here in terms of the pay raise for me, given
that I'm entering into the last year of my contract,
then just trade me. If you really, if we're really
(16:59):
this far part as far as how we see my
value going forward, then go ahead and trade me, which
they're saying, Look, that's ridiculous, We're not going to do that.
You know, they're probably they're thinking, look, we still hold
the cards. We could wind up making him play out
this year and it's got the current salary franchising for
twenty twenty six, and then you know, let him be
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a free agent, as that there's a lot of things
that they can do that they don't that they can
do that really require them not doing anything at all,
which is just sitting there. And he knows that. And
then really the only recourse that you have as a player, Dan,
as you know, is the the only thing you recourse
you have is withhold services. So or asked to be
moved somewhere else. And you know, whether he's saying, look,
H'm requesting a trade, demanding a trade, obviously he's ticked
(17:43):
off because him and his agent, Buddy Baker, obviously see
his value going forward as much different and objectively based
upon how he played last year. They have an.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Argument, okay, but let's look at the what is reasonable
for it. Let's say you ran the Commanders. Yeah, you
want to sign him. He's better than Brandon Ayuk who's
getting thirty. But he's not Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson,
he's not Cede Lamb. So where is the landing spot there?
Speaker 10 (18:13):
I think I think you just said the magic number.
And I've been saying this on TV, I said it
on social media last night. I think thirty million is
the magic number for me that I think if I
was Adam Peters, I would be saying, Okay, look, this
is where this needs to be realistically. Now. If he's
thinking I need to be up here at thirty three
thirty four, then obviously I'm going, well, we probably can't
(18:34):
get there. And we know that the sweet spot in
any negotiation and any ultimate deal is where you're not
happy with exactly where you got to, but you're not
dying over it either, And that goes for both sides
of the equation, both management and the player. And I
think that's the area where I would be like saying, look,
if we're here, then okay, I'm good with this. I'm
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good with this. And that's me trying to like remove
the emotion of how I feel about Terry McLaurin the
person and the player out of it, okay, because there's
no doubt that what he has done in the past
he has earned it. He has earned Look, he's earned
every penny that he has made to this point, and
I think if you were just going to factor in
what he has meant to this organization, you could probably
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make an argument for it being even higher. In the
thirty one thirty two area, you know, when we're just
taking into account the entire player. But from a strictly
business sense, I'd be comfortable with thirty million per year.
It sounds like from what I've heard that maybe they
may be looking for an average that's even higher than that,
that puts him into that stratospheric level, which I would
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be a little bit worried of doing as well.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
But do front offices pay you on what you've done
or what they think he'll do? Because Trey Hendrickson did
everything outperformed TJ Watt the last two years, Terry McLaurin,
he produced last year. But it feels like, yeah, but
you're thirty years of age. Now what are you We're
not paying you on what you did, We're paying you
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on what we think you can do.
Speaker 10 (20:04):
I say this all the time. Look, contracts are about
future performance projection. I say that, like almost annoyingly so
on TV all the time. And and I'm with you. Look,
but I also am someone who doesn't believe that thirty
years old all of a sudden, there is some kind
of big giant boogieman that people constantly lean on and say, oh,
but he's gonna be thirty, Like Okay, Well, if I
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really want to get technical, Terry's not gonna be thirty
until the middle of September. So what does that mean
for the look just I know people use that as
this line of demarcation to say, well, now the tide
has turned. Now it's nothing but downhill for this player,
and that's not true. It's just not true. I think
you have to take every one of these cases case
by case, understand what his history has been, as far
(20:47):
as his availability is, durability as training, habits, his personal life,
all of that, and make a reasonable projection going forward about, Okay,
do we think we can get to ROI the return
on investment that we're looking for. And I think with
everything that I've heard is that he's not someone I
would bet against. I wouldn't be trying to negotiate against
what he has done in the past, because he has
(21:09):
shown that he is an ultimate professional. And yeah, you
know what, there are also people who make arguments for
players based on what they've done in the past, almost
as if players deserve something, you know, a premium above
and beyond which you rationally think he may have earned
going forward simply because of how good of a pro
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he has been on and off the field, and Terry
Pibe falls into that category. What's interesting about this situation
is that there are people who are really split on this.
They really are. People are like, Hey, Washington, Adam Peters
should make his stand and Terry should just play out
the deal because he is going to be thirty and
he's not a great separator. He's not DK Metcalf, he's
not justin Jefferson. And then there's people who go, have
(21:50):
you looked at the objective data on this guy? Have
you looked at the effect on the QBR in the
quarterback rating of Jane Daniels when they're targeting him. If
you looked at he let he was top three in
the league in touchdown receptions last year. Have you looked
at the number of first downs he produced last year,
which was up there with the elite players in the league.
Have you looked at how strong he is at the
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catch one, the number of contested catches he made in
the time, in the number of first downs he produced, Well,
why wouldn't you project that that's going to get better
this year? As Jayden gets better, the run game gets better.
They're in year two of this program. I would be
comfortable projecting his production to stay right where it is,
if not improving, based on all those factors. But you know,
(22:32):
we have this tendency to want to say, well, he's
thirty years old and that there's no way he can
get better, just like saying the same thing about quarterbacks
that the year or two Jinxes is coming and that
Jayden won't get better. I think everything is trending the
right way in Washington. I hope they're able to land
somewhere in that low thirty range or maybe right around
thirty and Terry can get in there, because this could
be very, very very disruptive to this offense if it's
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one of these things that gets extended into the regular season.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I'm talking to Lewis Riddick of the Mothership. Would you
rather pay DK metcalf or Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
It's a great question. I would probably at this point
I would I would rather pay Terry's simply because of
the person and the player, and how much I trust
the player and how much I know that the effect
that he has on the football team from a just
from from a cultural standpoint, and I know this going
(23:30):
back to his days at Ohio state.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
I love.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
I love this dude when he came out and he
was someone who was kind of like severely overlooked, and
I think he's still being overlooked and a little bit
disrespected now. But see what people fall in love with
is the fact that DK is huge. He's an absolute freak,
he's fast, he has a flair for the dramatic. I
just want to steady, consistent producer that if you know what,
(23:54):
if you ramped up mclaurin's targets to the degree, like
say like a Jamar Chaser Justin Jefferson had, you'd see
the kind of production that you just couldn't deny. But
then there's this there's this aesthetic, you know, part of
this thing where you sit there and go But he's
not six' four and he's not two fifteen and he
doesn't run four too, well get off of that and
just look at the game and watch him play and
(24:15):
what he means To Jayden, DANIELS i think that's all
you need to.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
See what do you look for in a preseason?
Speaker 10 (24:20):
Game, Yeah i'm a little bit of a geek. MAN i,
LIKE i love watching all the second and third round.
PLAYERS i, like you know WHAT i like SEEING i
mean second and, third, second, third, fourth fifth round guys
who are really just fighting to kind of make a.
Team WHEN i look FOR i look for the uncovered.
GEMS i look for execution amongst the guys who you
know are going to be on the football team regardless
(24:42):
of the level of competition they're playing.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Against, okay but what did you see From Trey lance last?
Speaker 11 (24:46):
Night?
Speaker 10 (24:46):
Exactly that's my. Point that's just WHAT i was gonna get.
To it's about execution For. Trey it's about the comfort
level For. Trey it's about the timing that he played,
with the accuracy that he played, with the fact that
he played with his shoulders back and he was kind
of had his and he was like he was feeling.
Good he never has looked like. That he's never looked
like that in his. CAREER i don't care if it
(25:06):
was against The lions And canton at A hall Of fame.
Game Jim harball is having some kind of effect on
this young, man and he has finally hit his. Stride
after being so green coming out of college with such little,
Playtime he's finally hit his. Stride AND i think we
know this and you know this for, sure, man we
have seen in the recent past how much quarterback development
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is not a set thing in terms of its. Timing
you have to be willing to be more patient now
THAN i think you've ever, been simply because the variance
between organizations and programs is so. Great you just don't.
Know you just don't know how guys are gonna jail
from one place to the. NEXT i know it's only one,
game But i'll tell you. What in all my time
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of Watching Trade, lance AND i was a huge supporter OF. Treye,
lance AND i felt, Like, man DID i really just
blow that and get that? WRONG i saw something last
Night i'd never seen. Before i'm hoping he can continue
and he sticks there and eventually he gets his.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Shot BUT i don't think we're patient at. ALL i
think we're less patient because it used to be you
could be a number one pick and sit for a
couple of. Years, SURE i mean it doesn't happen like.
That It's, hey did you see WHAT. Cj stroud did
his rookie? Hear, hey did you see What Jaden daniels?
Did is rookie, Here Drake? May why can't all these
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quarterbacks be the? Same? RIGHT i, mean it's. Quick we
get you, in you, know into the washing, machine and
all of a sudden you come. Out how do you?
Smell if, Not i'm going to put you back. In
we'll move. On you, know it doesn't take long for
these teams to. Go we tried it for a year
or two. Years now we're going to go try to
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find our quarterback.
Speaker 10 (26:45):
Again, yeah you, know, Ironically Chris, beller we're just talking
about this in regards To Anthony richardson about the fact
that he has seen and he knows. IT i, know
gms are talking about. It he's, seen you know, recently
when you're looking at guys Like Baker mayfield and how
it took a little, bit you know for him to
kind of finally hit his, Stride Sam darnold and the
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kind of year that he had last. Year he has seen. That, hey,
look we need to be maybe we need to rethink
the amount of time that we give these, guys regardless
of where of where we drafted them and what our
initial expectations, are because everyone's just. Different the problem, Is,
look owners are, impatient fans are. Impatient we're just living
in an impatient world where we just want instant gratification right. Now,
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hell we have rookie quarterbacks in camp right now who
after one week they have a one bad period and
we're going bust get him out of, there get the
next guy in. There WE i, mean and we, Know,
look we've just seen cases where guys finally found their
found their right fit and then they finally take Off
Gino smith another. One but we don't. Care we don't
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care about. That we're, LIKE i don't. CARE i don't
want to wait that. Long either this guy shows me
right away out the, gate or we're moving on to
the next. Guy it's it's an interesting it's an interesting.
Case BUT i think With Trey, lance he's probably going
to be the next one that it'll be interesting to
see if he can continue on with this kind of
momentum and whether or not he ultimately gets a shot
to play somewhere else and actually play a lot of.
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Football because IN la he ain't playing ahead Of Justin.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Herbert well he's not only twenty five. EXACTLY i mean
that guys don't even really come into their. Prime and
now because they're coming in, young you, Know Anthony richardson
twenty years of. AGE i, mean you either know or.
YOU i think you either know right away that somebody
can or can't. PLAY i think you can see how they,
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prepare work, ethic, LEADERSHIP i mean all of that. Stuff
BUT i still go back To Trey lance AND i
go not enough sample size with. Games so he gave
me one miracle season At North Dakota. STATE i need.
More it's Like Zach. WILSON i need more because Bo
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knicks gave me Fifty Jayden daniels gave me sixty starts in.
College but NOW i know WHAT i. Have at LEAST
i have a better understanding of WHAT i. Have Mitchell
trubisky was really one good year in. College those guys scare.
Me Anthony richardson wasn't even a, starter consistent. Starter he showed,
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flashes but it wasn't enough for me to. Go he's
a top five. Pick, Yeah and that's. See that's the
that's the balance in the internal both individually and organizationally
fight that every team has every year when you're talking
about players who are supremely gifted who may not have
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the resume that you're talking, about versus players who have great,
production a long history or a much longer history of,
production but they may not be as.
Speaker 10 (29:48):
Gifted which way do they? Lean and a lot of
times because OF i, mean let's just be, honest because.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Of the.
Speaker 10 (29:57):
Let's, say the ego of people in THE, nfl and
we all have. It they, believe you know, WHAT i
can make this guy into exactly WHAT i want, him
because just look at these. Traits damn you gotta have these.
TRAITS i don't want this guy who's a little bit
lesser of an, athlete a little bit lesser of a,
player who may be topped. Out they always talk, about you,
know you always have these conversations about what is ultimately
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the ceiling of this. Player this guy's ceiling so much,
higher and with our great genius coaching and, development we're
gonna get it out of. Him we're gonna develop the
Next hall Of. Famer and that's the risk that you.
Take like With anthony in, Particular, look everybody In indianapolis,
knows and he knows himself that the biggest thing Holding
Anthony richardson back Was Anthony richardson and it was it
was the. Thing AND i wanted to jump in and
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say this while you were, talking BUT i didn't want
to interrupt. You but the biggest thing with him is
the maturity, factor the football character, factor the commitment factor
about it being constant and consistent and constantly trending the
way it needs. To because if he can get, that
and he is fighting an uphill battle, now especially what
happened with him down In, houston he's fighting that that
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image is burned into some people's brains for eternity and
no matter what he, does they're never going to feel
as though he has the has what it takes to
be a franchise. Quarterback but that's what he's fighting now
because from an athletic standpoint and a trade, standpoint you've
already seen him In indianapolis make throws that nobody can
make in the. League that's that battle all the. Time
and with Bow, knicks how many people killed Bow knicks
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coming out in the draft last year and, said Son
peyton doesn't know what he's. Doing what's he doing with this?
Guy doesn't have any? Upside this guy's he's Got and
now Now Sawn peyton's going see. See so, yeah it's
A it's a fascinating thing that front offices go through every.
YEAR i was.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Thinking about this with THE Afc west that you Got Andy,
Reid hall Of, Famer Pete, carroll maybe A hall Of famer,
Borderline Sean, payton Maybe hall Of, Fame Jim, harball hall
Of fame caliber coach with college En. Pro AND i was,
thinking and we had a that's had Four hall Of
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fame like coaches at the same, Time AND i thought
about The giants With, Parcells washington With Joe. GIBB i
don't know if they were all there at the same,
time but let's say Add Jimmy, Johnson Bill, Parcells dick
For meal with The, eagles And Joe. GIBBS i don't
know if they were there at the same, time but
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those are Four hall Of fame coaches in the same.
DIVISION i don't know if it was at the same. Time,
yeah it.
Speaker 10 (32:32):
Is The west has really for me exploded onto the
scene this year in particular because of what you're talking
about and will be THE i, mean there will be
some absolute cong Versus godzilla type battles all year.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Long, well how would you rank? Them So Andy? Reid
Andy reid is? Top, Yeah now who's the second best
coach in THE Afc? West, Peyton who's? Third?
Speaker 10 (33:01):
Oh, well, LOOK I i would say It's pete because
of What pete has done in THE nfl, already and
then and Then jim and, look there there are people
who will who will debate that bottom three guys or
the next three After andy and probably put all kinds
of different. Order but in my, experience, Look Sean, payton
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in my, experience is kind of like underrated in many.
Respects he doesn't get he doesn't he's not constantly in
the discussion as far as when we're talking about offensive.
Geniuses just good team, builders good coaches who are great
at utilizing players and understanding their strengths and. Weaknesses but
he's one of the Best i've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Doing but is he in the category With tomlin And John,
harball who both won A Super bowl and so Does Sean.
Speaker 10 (33:49):
Payton, Absolutely he's absolutely in that in that. Category And
i've Gotten i've had the, fortune you, know the good
fortune of being able to spend a lot of time
talking to both of those guys and talking To Sean.
Payton you shouldn't talk To Sean payton about. Football it
is a. Tutorial you will fill up. Notebooks you'll want
to write down every single thing that he, says and
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you can't argue with the way in which he has
built teams in conjunction with the gms he's worked with
over the, years and what he's doing In. Denver, Now,
Denver denver's gonna be right. There denver's gonna Give Kansas
city every single thing they can handle this. Year. Everything
they have a championship caliber, defense a championship caliber offensive.
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Line it's gonna be whether the quarterback can take another big.
Jump they've got, backs they've got wide, receivers and they
got a coaching. Staff they're gonna.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Be for real in two. Weeks i'll have you back
and you give me Your Super bowl pick, Deal i'll
give it to. You thank, you, man have a good.
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live final hour on This Meet. FRIDAY i don't know
how to describe the vibe in. HERE i don't know
if morale was, high IT'S i don't, know it's in.
DISARRAY i Think the tone was set last hour By
fritzi where he took a shot at me and my
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love of The beatles as he had a parody song
based Off We Didn't start The fire By Billy, joel
and after that it just started TO i don't, know
it felt like we were turning on each, other the
audience turning on each. Other thank, You.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
TODD i think.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
There's also, questions at least for, me about the. Menu
is it Gonna is that something we're excited? About are
we feigning? Enthusiasm i'm not sure about.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Today i'm gonna ask you what you think Of Meet friday's.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Menu i'm not loving this, one But i'm Hoping i'll
be pleasantly. Surprised that's just my honest assessment of WHEN
i heard that's what we were.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Having you can sit it out if you. Want i'll
give it a.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Shot i'm not shy about.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Consumer we're Having, Lambergers chicken, Solved, Locke skewers S, locke
And greek. Sald who is it better than we?
Speaker 11 (36:16):
Do?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Nobody No. Buddy stat of The day brought to you
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Show Good, morning if you're watching On. Peacock thank you
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our radio affiliates around the. COUNTRY i enjoyed the football last.
NIGHT i was happy For Trey lance thirteen to, twenty
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one hundred and twenty, yards a couple of touchdown, passes
and The chargers rough up The lions thirty four to.
Seven Trey lance has two regular season games with multiple touchdown.
Passes both came in his rookie season in twenty twenty.
One Who.
Speaker 11 (36:58):
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Speaker 2 (36:59):
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The, day.
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Brought to you By Panadia. America and in case you're,
wondering did the outcome of last night change The Super
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Speaker 10 (37:16):
Year it.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Didn't DraftKings just sent me The Super bowl. Odds it's
The bills and The ravens are tied at plus six
Hundred eagles plus seven Hundred chiefs plus eight Fifty lions
plus eleven Hundred commanders plus eighteen hundred and of course
The commanders Without terry McLaurin as he continues his hold
In AND i mentioned this. Stat over the last five,
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years there are four players with at least one thousand
receiving yards each, year Justin, Jefferson Mike, Evans DeVante, adams
And terry. McLaurin THE nfl does not pay you on
what you. Did they pay you on what they think you'll.
Do AND i think if he was twenty eight years
of this would not be an. Issue but you get
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to that number thirty years of. Age, well thirty is. Different.
Now thirty doesn't feel like, thirty, like oh my, god
you only got a couple more years left in your.
Career it feels like thirty all, Right you've got four
or five more really good. Years it feels like it's
an excuse not to pay. You AND i don't. Know
you're on the other side of thirty, here, yeah and
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that's happening With Trey hendrickson In. Cincinnati you're. THIRTY i don't.
Know Edge rusher over, thirty, okay gave you thirty five
sacks over the last two years. Combined but they're not
paying you on what you. Did it's what they think you'll.
Do and you still have the hold in. There Trey
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hendrickson and of course my com Parsons, seaton what's the
poll question for the final hour of this program at
least for the.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Week you are the final poll question of the.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Week just the, way that.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Is a lot of pressure right. There, yeah we have
a few of them up there right. Now two of
them Are terry McLaurin related in The COMMANDERS a commanders
And terry McLaurin should they trade him or pay? Him
sixty four percent of the audience have paying? Him and
whose side are you? On commanders Or terry McLaurin seventy
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seven percent or On terry's? Side? Good all, right good
feel that feels like a win for the.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Players, yeah let's go unless the season starts and he's
not there and then you blame him because he's screwing
up this dream, season potential dream, season.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Right there's plenty of time for that to. Change, yes of. Course,
yes we also have up there in worse, shape raised,
Car dylan's ankle Or todd right now with seventy six
percent of that, vote it Is Todd. Fritz, wow raised
car is only us five. Percent so, Yeah ray's getting
a new tire From Tyre rack. Today we're gonna we
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got him set.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Up dylan may have ligament damage with his ankle playing pickleball,
yesterday but he is. In he's our. Chef but it's
going to take a village for this Meet. Friday all,
right we'll get some phone calls in. HERE i brought this,
up AND i didn't do any research because we usually
don't do research on this. Show it's basically off. Memory
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but have we had a division where he had Four
hall Of fame caliber coaches at the same, Time and
that's WHY i brought up THE Afc west With Jim,
Harbaugh Pete, carroll you Got Sean, payton and of Course
andy some other. Ones two thousand and ONE Afc, West Mike,
Shanahan Mike, Holmgren dick For, Meal John. Gruden let's see
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nineteen ninety NINE Nfc, West Dan, Reeves Steve, Mariucci Mike,
Dick dick For. Meal mary uccis not A hall Of. Famer.
Okay some other people have some thoughts on. This reid In,
WISCONSIN i Read what's on Your mind?
Speaker 11 (41:00):
Today, hey what's up d the first time long? Time,
Uh AND i think that two thousand and FIVE nfc
should Have Bill, Parcells Tom, Coughlin Joe, gibbs And Andy.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Reid, okay, well thank.
Speaker 10 (41:16):
You.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Uh some people have sent in some pictures apparently in
the first HOUR i had my, hair some of it
was sticking. Up somebody said it looked like alfalfa from our.
Gang but now they're sending me pictures to show that
my hair was apparently sticking. Up is that, Right? Tod
that is? Correct, OKAY i.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
DIDN'T i didn't notice. THAT i would have said, something
or MAYBE i wouldn't. Have the other guys would have
told you.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Something so we can confirm at one point during the
show your hair was in fact standing, Up but it's
no longer doing.
Speaker 11 (41:42):
That.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Good, Good i'm.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Glad is it? Good we got to the bottom of? That,
yeah or the top of?
Speaker 10 (41:47):
That thank?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
YOU i think you're.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Good thank?
Speaker 11 (41:49):
You.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Todd are you enjoying this a little?
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Bit, okay not a, lot but a little.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yes, yes When todd's hair sticks, up you should tell.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Hell that would be like a just to keep it
even begin this book his historic.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Thing when's the last time your hair stood?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Up when did The broncos win that Second Super bowl
against The?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Falcons you had hair back?
Speaker 3 (42:08):
THEN i THINK i had some back. Then, okay but THEN.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
I still don't know why celebrity family. Feud in the
promotional picture has you with.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Hair that was.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Weird that was very, weird and we've asked for. Answers
the iteam was on this and we don't have anybody
who's going to give us a response of why they
put hair on.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
You and for the actual, show it's not like they
put something over it to make it look LIKE i had.
Hair so it was.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Odd, YEAH i don't know if this was you, know for,
Ratings hey look at him with hair like you look? Better, yes,
bully it was a social.
Speaker 8 (42:40):
Media post promoting celebrity family feud and they had us
in The Eisen show and there was no, joke there
was no like. Bit it was just out there And
fritzy had like two thirds of a head of hair
and we got no.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Responsible, well they didn't do that to Rich. Eisen they did.
Not don't know why they gave you.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
HAIR i thought it was initially just someone having, fun
like a you, know a fan of the, show thought
that would be cute to do, That but it actually
came from the show as some kind of weird promo.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Image paulie has Some Trey lance. Questions he looked good last,
night he looked comfortable last, NIGHT i should, say, granted
it's the first preseason. Game But i'm just looking for
anything from this, kid and he's only twenty five years of.
Age but it feels like the NFL's moving on from,
him that he's the third string. QUARTERBACK i think with The,
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CHARGERS i don't Think Justin herbert is hearing, footsteps are
looking over his. Shoulder Even Taylor heineke is a better
quarterback Than Trey. Lance, Yes, paul two part.
Speaker 8 (43:36):
Question Is Trey lance a bust or is it to be?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Decided i'm going to say to be decided because he's
only twenty five years of. It you're being, KIND i
am being. KIND i don't know if somebody's going to
give him a chance to be a starter.
Speaker 8 (43:52):
Again could you make the case that he was a
bust With San francisco but his career to be?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Decided?
Speaker 8 (43:57):
Yes can you unbust? Yourself in professional? Sports has anyone
ever been a bust declared and? UNBUSTED i have a,
Name but.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Was Baker mayfield a? Bus? No he had some nice, Years,
yeah but then he's on the practice. SQUAD i think
For carolina he couldn't be the backup. QUARTERBACK i think
with The rams.
Speaker 8 (44:20):
He was in danger becoming a, journeyman and he did
a cleanup On aisle.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Five he was, close, yeah to be in a, buzz.
Speaker 8 (44:28):
But he had too many above average years with The.
Cleveland he kind of paid off For cleveland. Early here's the.
Guy Alex smith was drafted number one By San francisco
ironically in two thousand and. Five his first year one,
touchdown eleven. Picks his second year improvement sixteen, touchdown sixteen.
Picks his third year injured a, lot two, touchdowns four.
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Picks he didn't play his fourth, year he's completely injured
with a shoulder. Injury he played a few more years
In San, francisco but at that point you could find
articles IN o eight myth is a, bust a lot
of them like it's not working. Out he cleaned up his.
Act he had four decent years With San. Francisco then
when he goes To Kansas, city he goes to Three Pro, bowls.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
But it felt like wherever he, went they brought in
somebody else who would take his, place you, know brought
In kaepernick And. Mahomes they went To washington and had
the terrible. Injury, Yes, MARVIN i.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Think another guy who may have unbusted Himself Sam.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Darnold, yeah, yeah that's a good. Point, yeah that's a good. Point,
See Zach. Wilson still is a, CHANCE i guess to
unbust himself new. Term by the, way we came out unbust.
Himself bob In New, York good, Morning. Bob what's on
your mind? Today, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
I'm, here BUT i.
Speaker 7 (45:48):
CAN'T i don't think you hit the.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Bunt, Yes i'm, Here.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
BOB i can't hear.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Myself that's kind of the way it, Works.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
BOB i don't know that you would hear yourself, Back Bud.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Connor And, Boise, hello, ALONG i can't Hear dan and you,
there you, There, Connor, yes.
Speaker 7 (46:13):
Sir thanks for me CALLING. Dp i'm calling about The
hall Of fame coach, issue AND i Think Pete carroll's
this will be a second time. Around in the ninety
seven anf The, east When carroll coached The, Patriots Jimmy
johnson coached The, Dolphins Mar levy coached The, bills And
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Bill parcells was on The. Jets.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, yeah that was brought up by another, caller but thank, You.
Connor Pete carroll was not A hall Of fame coach
at the. Time these are All hall Of fame caliber
coaches in THE Afc. West this isn't they they're starting
out their. Careers they've already Become hall Of fame worthy.
Coaches chad In? Texas did you give me the Other
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Trey lance?
Speaker 3 (46:59):
Question?
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Pauline that was?
Speaker 8 (47:00):
It the followup Was kenny unbusted?
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Blobs, okay all, right, Yes? Chad what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (47:04):
Today good, Morning, dan thanks for taking my. Calls six
foot two five, Dad. Bud, Hey i'm headed up to
here area this.
Speaker 6 (47:14):
WEEKEND i was just trying to get some.
Speaker 12 (47:16):
Recommendations my wife's in the wedding there In New, haven
SO i was trying to find out if you had
any recommendations far.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Us all? Right food, wise, yes, sir all. Right there's
a Sneaky italian place Called. Zenelli's, zenelli's and it's it's
right in the area where you. Have two of the
most famous pizzerias in the country are on the same.
(47:42):
Street But zenelli's they have more than just, pizza wonderful.
People uh there's outdoor seating and they're right across the
STREET i think From. Sally's, yeah just down the, ROAD
i mean right down the. Street, Yeah But. Zenelli's that's
On what's st In New. Haven if you're going for,
pizza you can get great pizza, there but they have
(48:05):
some other things as, Well SO i would say Zen.
Ellie's the other places are going to have long. Lines
just letting you. Know if you're going there for a,
weekend there'll be long. Lines but hopefully you'll get good.
Weather looks like good weather for you, Traveling, chad thanks
for the phone. Call let me See rob In. Utah, Hi,
rob what's on your mind? Today?
Speaker 13 (48:25):
Hey, dan how's it going? Great i'm six, five three oh.
FIVE i had a trade idea for you Because terry
mclaurran wants to be. Traded Tyreek hill also at the
beginning the postseason said he wanted to be, traded so
swap him In miami also sends a third rounder TO.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Dc, well, okay the only problem with that is Is
Tyreek hill going to want to renegotiate his. Contract he
doesn't SEEM i don't know he does and seem. Happy
AND i wouldn't Want Tyreek. Hill he's unbelievable at, times.
(49:09):
UNSTOPPABLE i just think it's all about. Him terry, McLaurin
by all accounts has been a great leader for The,
commanders and it hasn't been an easy task being a
leader with The. COMMANDERS i hope he gets. PAID i
hope he ends his career. THERE i think he's one
of those players that unless you watch The, commanders you
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really don't know About terry McLaurin because his numbers don't
jump off the charts as far as combine, numbers, like
oh my, god that guy's so. Fast he just as
a football, player you throw the ball up in his,
direction he's going to bring it. Down he was number
one in contested catches the last five. Years he's going
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to give you a thousand. YARDS i think he had
thirteen touchdown. Receptions he is a big reason why you
Had Jaden daniels have the season that he. Had it's
Like Steve smith With Cam. Newton When cam first came,
In Steve smith was. Unbelievable sometimes we just focus on
the quarterback AND i hope THAT i hope that they
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get this deal. Done uh trip In, Vegas hi, trip
what's on your? Mind?
Speaker 6 (50:20):
HEY, dp thanks for calling me. BACK i look forward
to seeing you all. Again FOR f ONE i had
as A Crappensburg state. ALUMNI i have two players that
we couldn't get THROUGH, nil BUT i have their. Nicknames
one Was Cooper. Flag he would have been The Cooper.
Scooper and then If Travis hunter went, here he would
(50:43):
have been The Devil.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Flusher, well thank, You. Trip still, uh still leaning On
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