August 18, 2025 • 44 mins
DP reacts to the Browns' QB room. Will Shedeur grab the top spot at some point during the season? Yahoo Sports Senior CFB Reporter Ross Dellenger unpacks the NCAA's decision on Michigan and gives his thoughts on whether the punishment fit the crime. Plus, 6x Pro Bowl DT Gerald McCoy breaks down the latest in NFL contract disputes and discusses what training camp is like for players.
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Best and Worst of the weekend. What you saw that
you liked and didn't like. We'll come up with a
poll question. Seaton will do the honors, but first let
me run down in no particular order. Scotty Scheffler wins
the BMW fifth win of the season, and it's his sport.
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Now when you think about it, you know, Tiger separated
himself eventually. You know Phil was kind of there, Ernie
Els was there. You had other guys who were kind
of on the periphery who would you know sometime they
would step up in a week and challenge him, maybe
beat him. But this is Scotty Scheffler's and you're watching it,
and it's very methodical. It is, you know, drip drip, drip,
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water torture as opposed to a guillotine. Tiger was a guillotine.
He would just cut your head off. Scotty's like, yep,
there he is again, and there he is again, and
there he is again. And then he did this on
the next to last hole yesterday. And this is how
it sounded. Do we have Scotty Scheffler Marvin or is
that our play of the day?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
That is our play of the day.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh okay, so we're gonna save that. Okay, fair enough.
So Scotty Scheffler wins the BMW. I think the Happy
Gilmore cameo at the end of Happy Gilmore too. You
have over one hundred million people who have streamed that movie.
And I think this has helped too, that Scotty is
I don't know if he's embraceable, but he's likable, he's enjoyable,
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and you're watching and you're going, Okay, he's making fun
of himself, and I think that really helped. And he,
you know, had a four shot deficit and he caught
Robert McIntyre and then of course had some really great
performances shots that you want. You know, I hate when
somebody backs into a title, and Scotty Scheffler did not
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back into a title. He went out, grabbed it and
won it, his fifth PGA Tour title of the season
and the first player to win five straight times on
the PGA Tour in consecutive years since Tiger Woods back
in six and seven. And I know it sounds blasphemous
to say, you know, put Scotty Scheffler in Tiger Woods
in the same you know conversation. I'm not talking about
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the style, the presentation. I'm talking about the end result.
And that's where Scotty deserves to be put in that category. Now,
granted it's a smaller sample size. But if you're looking
at Tiger at his tiger Ish peak, Scotty is, you know,
at least close, he's at least in the conversation with that.
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And once again, he's never he still looks like Carl
Spackler from what is it the Caddyshack. Yeah, whenever I
see him, you know he's got the beard there. It
just looks like Bill Murray's character in Caddyshack. But he
did it in a methodical way once again and very
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impressive going into the Tour Championship. Also, preseason football, I
think we got to declare moratorium on going crazy with
our referendums on preseason football because I do have a
dilemma here. And I talk about this in certain sports
or athletes or teams where it's clickbait. And I have
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told you this many many times. I don't subscribe to it.
I don't want to do it. It may, you know,
not be beneficial for this show or this my career.
But I have to present something when I feel like
it needs to be presented. And I'm watching shudor Sanders
play and I realized I have to pick a side.
It almost feels like you either say, hey, really, he
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looked great, or hey, okay, you can't even cover it
yet be in the middle, you know, kind of neutral
with it, which is what I'm trying to be. I
thought he played really well, and then all of a sudden,
I see the coverage for Dylan Gabriel and you know,
I had a fumble and that had interception. The interception
was in his fault. And Jackson Dark with the Giants
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played well, but nobody's going to talk about that. So
you're trying to find a middle ground with this with
what you say in the preseason, and it kind of
comes with, you know, a paustionary tale. You know, we'll
play these back in January, you know, when the season's
over for a lot of these rookies, then we'll probably
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come back and go that was said. You know, it's
like freezing cold takes. We'll bring him back. And you know,
this person said this, I think should Or Sanders will
start a game for the Browns this season, said that
when they drafted him. But I don't have an agenda here,
and anybody who you know, believes in and should Or
Sanders shouldn't have been surprised at how he played. That
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was the surprising part of it. If you think he
can play, then why were you surprised. I expect him
to be good. He played well in college. I voted
for him third on my Heisman ballot. But you know,
this outpour of media, I mean it was gushing, it
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was dripping. It's like easy here, and you know he's
limited now due to an injury. I don't think he's
going to be their starting quarterback. I think it's Joe Flacco.
But I do think he'll get a chance. But I
think we need to be fair to Dylan Gabriel as
well in this situation. And if you want to throw
in Kenny Pickett, you know, it's kind of a hodgepodge
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of quarterbacks there. But Shador Sanders played well. It's one
game in the preseason. It's like summer league basketball where
all of a sudden, I'll come in and go, oh
my gosh, this guy put up forty for the Pistons.
He don't even make the roster. I think should or
will play. But you do have to pick a side
almost because if I say something negative, well I'm a hater.
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And then if I praise Shador Sanders, then I'm, you know,
on the bandwagon. With Dion and his son. I expect
him to play well, and he did play well, and
you can celebrate that, but I don't know what that means.
I did want to see composure. We talked Drew Brees
before vacation, and you know he wants to see those
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guys who have a good thirty starts. Now that's where
you really get a sense of how good a quarterback
is or is going to be. Jayden Daniels and bow
Nicks had over fifty starts in their careers, playing at
two different places. Now you get a good sample size.
That's why we've had a lot of these quarterbacks recently,
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high draft picks who maybe had one really good season
in college. It's not enough for me, and I think
that that's where we need to have buyer be ware
with all of this. Shad Or Sanders played well, but
I hate picking a side because I don't really have
a side on it. I want to be neutral with him.
You have football coming up tonight. You have the Commanders
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and the Bengals. This is the holdout game, so Commanders
in the Bengals. The Bengals their minus five three and
a half in case you care, but this is the
Trey Hendrickson, Terry McLaurin game, neither will be there. And
this is where you know I said this about Michah Parsons.
If I hear that they're listening to offers in Dallas
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or somebody is making an offer, now you have my attention.
I truly believe that this will come down to the
last week before we get to the regular season, and
Jerry will own all the headlines and Micah Parsons will
be brought in and he'll proudly say he's the highest
paid non quarterback in the game, and then we'll move on.
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But as far as the Bengals go there listening, you know,
reportedly listening to trade offers, Now you have my attention.
And if you knew that you weren't going to sign him,
and you knew that he was going to hold firm
in what he wanted, then why didn't you think about
this prior to the draft? Why didn't you trade him?
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That's when you could get more for him. But here
you are, and you're probably going to waste another Joe
Burrows season. You sign up your best receivers and you
have a defense that prevented you from making the postseason.
So this is where you look at if I'm a
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fan and I go, you know, management failed us. Either
trade him back in March prior to the draft, or
sign him up. Let's go. You know, you only have
so many opportunities here, and you got a franchise quarterback,
a great quarterback, and great wide receivers. You're gonna have
to score a lot of points. Even if you have
Trey Hendrickson, and then you have Terry McLaurin. You had
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this wonderful season last year, surprised everybody. He wants to
be paid. He wants to be paid accordingly to you know,
other receivers in the game. He doesn't do anything dynamic,
but he is there and he had a wonderful season,
and hopefully he gets the money he deserves. I hope
Trey Hendrickson gets the money. I think it's really easy
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to go. Let me blame the player. If I look
at production, Trey Hendrickson has been better than TJ Want
the last two years. Terry McLaurin his numbers, I can't
deny the numbers. But the NFL does not pay you
on what you did. They pay you on what they
think you'll do. And that's when thirty years of age
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in Cincinnati is different than thirty years of age in
Pittsburgh because TJ want got paid.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
All right, yes, PAULI, how about halftime tonight to spice
up the game, Trey Henderson negotiates with the Bengals live
on air. Twelve minutes halftime. You got to get the
contract done. You got twelve minutes. McLaurin, same thing. That's
good TV.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Sure, I'm good with that. Bengals probably wouldn't be in
favor of that. I'd love to know what those negotiations
sound like, feel like, and I mean, while we're at it,
and then you get but Jerry has to only have
the player in there. He doesn't want to have the agent.
So Jerry Joe couldn't do that, But wouldn't You'd love
to see how that goes down back and forth. This
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is where what happens in the in these situations. And
it happened to me that management can tell your agent
whatever they want to tell them. Now, they wouldn't tell
you necessarily, but they will say, hey, as you know,
the great Mark Shapiro of the ESPN said to my agent,
you're over the hill. He's over the hill. And he'll
never get another job. Well, he says that to my agent,
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and I'm like, God when he say that to me,
Yes he would, But you know it's per you know,
it's business, but for Trey hendricks and Terry McLaurin, it's personal.
This is their salary, this is their future, this is
their life. For Mike Brown and I mean, he's like,
this is just another contract for him, another holdout, another
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situation that is so bengal esh And then you got
the commanders as well with Terry McLaurin. So, uh, you know,
proceed with caution in the preseason, going to reiterate that here, Satan,
what's the pole question today? Well, we could start there
in the NFL if you want. And actually, I've been
looking at a bunch of different articles about the best
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destinations for Trey Hendrickson. I can't tell if some of
them are actually good destinations or if some of them
are just wishful thinking too right, So, like the Alliance
or top of that list, I think that would be great.
I do think they might have the wrong I'm not
a salary capologist, but I think they might have room
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for something like that. And this is a team that
I don't think they had a sack against the Commanders
in the playoffs. In their playoff game, Aiden Hutchinson of
course was out, but Detroit Is won. What are the
other ones?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I got a long list here, Buccaneers on that list.
That could be fun, Okay, it could be fun. I
think he lives in Florida. Commanders seem to be on
every list right now as a destination for people the
Chicago Bears. If you're Trey Hendrickson, are you leaving the
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Bengals to go to the Bears.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I think he's leaving to go wherever they'll pay him.
I don't think he's loyal to Cincinnati. Just go. Here's
three years for thirty million dollars a year, thirty five
million dollars a year. How's that they are all done?
Three for one hundred, all done, sixty million guaranteed or
something done? Good? Good, Let's go. But I don't think
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he goes Man, I really want to stay in Cincinnati. Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I had the current list of salary cap space in
the NFL. The Lions are number two. They have forty
seven million currently in open cap spits.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
All right, good point?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Any other places seating now? Here's that was one list
that I saw. This next four teams are a separate
list that I saw. The Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, would you rather.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Hold out or play for the pace?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
This is the holdout or playlist?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
No, no, because I'd rather I just want to get paid.
If I'm Trey Hendrickson, I don't care, So I'm I'm
you know, even Carolin? All right, Caroline is nice. You know,
maybe he looks good in those uniforms.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
You think he just wants to get paid?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yes, yes, at this stage of the game. Yes, yes,
have been to a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
How about the Cleveland Browns team up with Miles Garrett?
It could be unstoppable there.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Bengals wouldn't trade in in the division, I don't think. Okay,
how about the Colts? Okay, yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I went back and looked to see if Trey Hendrickson
ever made huge money. He's never gotten top end defensive
end salary. He made nineteen million a couple of years ago,
eighteen million and twenty twenty three, quite a bit less
than his contemporary. He's at sixty eight million dollars in
his career.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But this is it.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
This is the last deal and this upcoming year he
will be making sixteen million, which is less than half
of Garrett and Watt.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
All right, let's take a break. We'll settle on a
poll question. We did have the Michigan verdict. After two years,
they finally NCAA showing its teeth, of course, but we'll
talk about that coming up. And also there's and it's
in the early stages that the Big Ten is offering
up a proposal for playoff expansion that could be twenty
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four to twenty eight teams. Early stages, but I mean
we're headed in this direction. We just are.
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Speaker 2 (16:30):
Let's bring in Ross who joins us? Now? How would
you summarize the NCAA's punishment of Michigan football.
Speaker 8 (16:39):
Ooh, that's a good question, Dan. I would summarize it, as.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
You know. I guess it depends on who you asked, Dan.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
You know, if you ask Michigan people, right, they say
it was too hard and the penalties financially or too stiff,
and that's probably a point of why they're appealing. Right,
if you ask everybody else in college football and college sports,
they'll say it was way, way too light, right, that
the NCAA should have given Michigan a postseason ban, and
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they should have vacated wins in championships, and they should
have added more suspension and penalties.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
To the current head football coach, Sharon More.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
I think what the NCAA did, and they're starting to
move away from the vacated wins, right, they're starting to
move away from postseason bands because it penalizes sort of
innocent players that are currently on the team in future
players that will be on the team, So they're.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Kind of moving away from that.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
So they're just substituting these financial penalties, you know, for
the postseason ban. And if you look at the full penalties,
accumulative penalties, financial penalties, it's going to be over thirty
million dollars and probably as much as thirty five thirty
seven million dollars. I mean, that is a historic penalty
that we've just never seeing anything like it. And I
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know it's easy to sort of roll your eyes that
they have a lot of money and they can pay it.
We're in an age of athlete compensation where they're going
to be everybody's going to be paying, you know, twenty
million dollars to their athletes starting this year. So I
don't think it's anything necessarily to roll the eyes at.
I think it was a pretty significant penalty, but it's
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probably not what most people believed that they deserved. And
I think and I'll say one more thing about that, Dan,
is that if the NCAAA, which was tipped off in
October twenty twenty three, in the middle of that season.
That twenty twenty three season was tipped off to this
this Signce Deealing took a few days to start to
really vet it, realize it was real, and then alerted
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the Big Ten, who then suspended Jim harb all those
three games. If Dan, if that doesn't happen and they
don't suspend and the Big Ten doesn't decide to suspend
Jim Harball, the NCAA doesn't alert the Big Ten of this,
Michigan probably does get vacated wins and maybe even gets
a postseason ban.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Wait to explain why.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
I think the fact that you sort of dealt with
it immediately during that season. I think there's a thought
that the three games that the head coach was suspended,
and you remember he was suspended I think two or
three games earlier that season two for a separate investigation.
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The fact that they immediately took action, you know, and
I think Charlie Baker said this after they won the championship,
is that you can't argue that they wanted sort of
fair and squares something like that. And and part of
the reason he said that is because of that three
game suspension for Jim Harborough.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
It's like, we dealt.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
With it then, right, we dealt with it there, and
I think they took that, the Committee on Infractions took
that under consideration, and if that wouldn't have happened, I
just have a belief that that championship would have been
in jeopardy of being vacated.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
If I asked Jim Harbaugh, did you cheat or not him?
If I ask him did Michigan cheat? What do you
think his answer would be? If I just said yes
or no, did Michigan cheat?
Speaker 8 (20:24):
I can't imagine Jim Harbaugh acknowledging in any way that
the University of Michigan cheated, or that he cheated, or that.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Anybody on its staff cheated.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
You know, Michigan as well as Jim Harbaugh, i'm sure,
continues to contend that they really received not much of
a of an advantage from a signce stealing in the
advanced scouting, and that it shouldn't have been illegal, and
that it should it should be legal to go scout
your opponents. And many times Michigan administrators and coaches have
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come to me and said, look, you know, years ago
this rule was almost changed to permit schools to do it,
but it's sort of a cost containment issue, and so
they continue.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
To contend that they they didn't get any advantage.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
And again, everybody else writing college sports will tell you
they did get an advantage, and I think the Committee
on Infractions thought they did get an advantage. And if
we were in any other era Dan before this sort
of revshare type of era, Michigan would have received a
postseason ban almost certainly, and they would have had scholarship productions.
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But this is sort of a new world, and so
they decided not to do that and go instead with
the financial penalties.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Okay, Jim Harbaugh has a ten year show cons which
means he can't come back and coach in college. Correct.
If it's now, that seems like a really harsh punishment
for him if he goes back. But he's not going back.
My question though, would be if he was still there,
what would his punishment be if this is his punishment
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and he's not there.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Ross.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Yeah. Norman Bay, who was the chief, he was like
the chairman I think of the Committee on Infractions. He
gave a press conference last week after the ruling and
he was asked exactly that Basically, he was asked what
would have happened if Jim Harball was still the head coach?
Speaker 5 (22:27):
What would the penalties have been?
Speaker 8 (22:30):
And there was like, literally, Dan, there was like an
eight second pause and he just stared at the camera
and you could see the wheels turning, like, oh boy,
what do I say here? Finally he really sort of
danced around the question of you know, it's a hypothetical,
we're not going to get into that, but fairly clearly
the penalties would have been a lot more severe if
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Jim Harball was Michigan's coach. There's no doubt about it
that it would have been a lot more severe. I mean,
I say that they have sort of stopped doing the postseason,
but if Michigan, if Jim Harball was still coach at Michigan,
you know, if it wasn't going to be if there
wasn't going to be a postseason ban, there was going
to be some kind of like season worth of suspensions
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for him.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Talking to Ross Dellinger, Yahoo Sports senior college football reporter,
I saw the story floated by the Big Ten or
the Big Ten has an idea for playoff expansion twenty
four or twenty eight teams, and we're looking at the
Big ten and the SEC that they would get half
the field, and then you have the ACC and Big
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twelve they get five bids, and then you would have
two automatic bids for the non Power four conferences and
two at large teams. So that escalated quickly. That were
at least we're talking about this. Now we're I know
we're headed towards this. Why how long is it going
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to take to get there?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I think it's still going to take long.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
And I think this idea is just was just an
idea and is just an idea, right, it was somebody
kind of described it to me.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I thought it was pretty accurate.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
Back of the napkin stuff like this, what really is
like this is very very preliminary.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
So this was a wor a week a week ago.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
So last Monday, I think our last Tuesday, the Big
ten had a meeting with its its athletic administrators and
kind of just sort of presented this, Hey what do
you think and everybody sort of gave it the thumbs up, right,
and then they sent it to the SEC last middle
last week, early last week, and there was a preliminate
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the first call between Big ten Commissioner Tony Pettiti and
SEC Commissioner Greg sank Friday about it, and it was
just sort of a going through it.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
What do we think of this?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You know it?
Speaker 8 (24:57):
I think the Big ten is sort of like trying
to get a feel for where the SEC is, and
there's really been no answer there from the SEC. But
this week there could be some kind of answer. The
SEC Athletic Directors meet for a regularly scheduled meeting this
week and so I'm guessing it will come up. But Dan,
this is so preliminary, like it's on I heard about
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it Thursday. I decided that I wouldn't write about it
because it was so preliminary. ESPN did write about it
on Saturday, which forced all of us to write about it.
But I went to somebody who was very involved in
the process about like, Hey, I'm writing something. They're like,
there's nothing to write. This is a non story. It's
just starting. We haven't even gotten to the first step
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of it. And they are right, I mean, this is
very preliminary, so I think we're still a ways away.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
But Dan, I think we always knew when we went.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
College, when college football went from two to four and certainly,
when it went from four to twelve, we knew this
was inevitably it was going to go to at least sixteen,
and so I think that's still where the focus is.
It's trying to get this thing to sixteen. But there's
a deadline December one where they have to make a
decision on next year's playoff. Obviously, this year's is twelve,
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and that's all set. We're trying to decide on next
year and then there and in the next five years. Right,
the new kind of six year extension that starts next year,
so they have to December one. I have a feeling
next year's playoff will be where it is this year.
It certainly will not be twenty four to twenty eight teams, right,
This is not happening within a year.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Great to talk to you, Thanks for joining us, No problem,
Thank you, Ross Dellinger.
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Speaker 2 (26:46):
He's Gerald McCoy. He was a former defensive tackle, six
time Pro Bowler, and third overall pick in the draft
twenty ten. I believe three of the four top four
were from Oklahoma, right, Jerald.
Speaker 9 (27:01):
That sounds absolutely perfect. Yes, it was three to four picks.
It was Sam and then I went and then Trent
went number four.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
And then and Dominican Sue was in there as well.
Speaker 10 (27:16):
It was two. Yes, but.
Speaker 9 (27:19):
Five of the top six were from the Big twelve,
so we had something going that year.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Okay, let me give the official introduction. NFL Network carries
six preseason games that'll be coming up a quadruple header
this Saturday, August twenty third, starting at one Eastern on
NFL Network. Do coaches give pregame speeches in the preseason.
Speaker 10 (27:44):
Yeah, they do.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
Preseason is still about preparing the team, and somebody has
to play the game, whether it's the starters, the backups, whoever.
The game still has to be played. And most coaches say, hey,
they keeping scoring. We want to go out and win,
and we've been working on all these things, whether you've
had joint practices or not, whether you've just been practicing together,
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whatever we've been working on.
Speaker 10 (28:08):
Coach wants to go see you executed in the game.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
The coaches do a great job of not trying to
downplay what preseason is that's more like the starters and
the players that will do something like that. But the
coaches they locked in at all times. I'm talking about
they still yelling on the sideline. They still is still
a game. So yeah, they do can get pregame.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Speeches, Okay, But how do I process the Bills getting
blown out by the Bears? That we know the Bills
are good, they got embarrassed by the Bears. Let me
look at it from the Bills perspective of how would
you feel if you played for the Bills and you
got blown out like that?
Speaker 9 (28:48):
Well, it's not a great feeling because we've been practiced,
We've still been practicing, and we've still been working on
the things that we do.
Speaker 10 (28:55):
So you go out in the game and don't put up.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
Any points like none, that is, that's not a great
feeling for whoever's out there because preseason, some of these
games might be the only NFL football some of these
guys ever played, and they live and tell stories off
their preseason experience and their game.
Speaker 10 (29:14):
So if you go out there.
Speaker 9 (29:15):
And the only experience you've ever had you got blown
out thirty eight zero, that's not a story you want
to tell. But also for the coaches who are trying
to look for the special teams players and the guys
who might be the backups. It's not a good look
for them either. So I'm pretty sure those meetings are
not pleasant this week.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
What's it like when somebody gets cut in training camp?
Speaker 9 (29:38):
It's horrible. It's something you don't want to see. I
remember in the spring, we this wasn't even training camp,
it's a spring. I can't remember what year it was,
but all the d line it got together after workouts
and meetings and we went to see a movie. And
while we were sitting in the theater during the movie,
one of the guys instead of was all right, Fellas,
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I'm gonna get out of it, it was like the
movie just started. He was like, Oh, they just cut me,
so I gotta get out of here. I was like,
and we were just like, Bro, do we sitting enjoy
the movie or do we leave? Like we don't. We
don't know what to do. It's a it's a bad feeling.
I've seen so many different cuts. We've been sitting in
the meeting the day of final cuts, and you feel
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like once you make it to team meeting, all right,
we're good. But I found that out many a time,
even making it to that meeting. It's not so you
walk around, you see people like looking around the corner
hoping they don't you know, get called, and then you
get in the team meeting. One time we was in
the team meeting the team's starting and Shelton Quarrels. We
called him the grim Reaper in Tampa because he was
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the one who would come grab you. So we was
all like, you know, like everybody look out for the
grim Reaper. So we we sit at the team meeting
and then we see we hear that back door open up,
and everybody turned around and Shelton. We was like, oh
my gosh, he came to grab somebody. And then one
time it was week one, Week one, the first practice,
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so we come back that Monday before the first week.
It's not that Wednesday. Is that Monday? So you want
to get to that Wednesday. So the Monday comes up,
we outside of practice and Shelton walks on the field
to practice to the warm ups and grab somebody off
the field. I was like wow, I said, man, this
business is ruthless. This is just yeah, it's not a
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great feeling. It's not something you want to see.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And because it's your dream. Yeah, think if you made
it through the first week. In the first game, it's
it's like, Okay, I feel like I've made the roster.
I'm pretty safe there.
Speaker 10 (31:40):
That's what it feels like.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
But I tell people all the time, man, the NFL
is about adjustments, not just game day adjustments. You really
have to adjust to everything, just to new coaches adjust
new players, adjust to the weather. Everybody plays hurt, nobody's
healthy after the first day of practice.
Speaker 10 (31:59):
It's just a game of adjustments.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
This roster you start with, even in week one, might
not be the roster you go into the game with,
but definitely the ross you start with week one at
the roster you go in week seventeen with.
Speaker 10 (32:10):
So it's just all about adjustments.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Is Gerald McCoy works for NFL Network as an analyst
and former defensive tackle. NFL Network has six preseason games
that'll be a quadruple header this Saturday, August twenty third,
starting at one Eastern. The difference in the sound of
a rookie quarterback at the line of scrimmage and Tom
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Brady any veteran in any of those guys, the sound
their voice is their difference. If I say, just listen,
you can tell a rookie at the line of scrimmage
and a veteran.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
Yeah, you can definitely tell the difference, the level of confidence,
how to operate, even the communication from the office of
the line rookies depending on who's the center. This is
what a lot of people want to know is I
don't care how good the rookie is. If he has
a vet center, he's going to depend a lot on
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his center for protections.
Speaker 10 (33:10):
Changing plays a lot of things that's going.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
So you may hear the rookie calling it, but they're
real indecisive with things they want to do.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
The center helps them out a lot. I remember this
happening with.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
Cam trying to think of some other young guys that
I played. I really can only really think of Cam
right now because that's why I played in the division.
Speaker 10 (33:31):
But Ryan Couli will help Cam out a lot.
Speaker 9 (33:33):
Cam was very decisive as he got older, But when
we first played, Cam would call things out. But we'll
be at the line and Ryan would be calling out, no,
we're not doing this, We're going here here Cam, and
they would be going back and forth like okay, confirming
what's going on, but then he played at Drew Brees
or Matt Ryan and oh shoot.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Kill kill kill kill you, Like, man, what the.
Speaker 10 (33:55):
Heck is going on?
Speaker 8 (33:57):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (33:57):
Switching well, I think please check ain't something because Drew
was out there, like Drew is cerebral man, and he
listened and Drew me and Drew tray together.
Speaker 10 (34:06):
So that's what made that fun.
Speaker 9 (34:08):
He would be talking like looking at me, like making
changes like look at me, dead in my face, like
let me know, y'all not about to stop this, you know.
So it was it was always fus you know, going
back and forth with Drew.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
What was it like to tackle Cam Newton?
Speaker 9 (34:27):
So I don't know if y'allve ever seen like Toddler's
like really feel like they can take their parent down,
like really feel like they can jump on their dad's
leg and tackle them and then the dad is like
like wrapped around their leg and they just like dragging
you across the carpet. That's pretty much what it feels
like trying to take Cam down. Because Cam, in my
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time was the most elusive. I still think he's the
most elusive quarterback ever, simply because we've seen Lamar, we've
seen Vic seen Randall cunning here. We've seen all these
people be elusive to where they can escape. But Cam
was doing everything they're doing at six six to fifty
to sixty doing it. But he's just as smooth. He
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can run, not as fast, but he can run very fast.
He's outrunning people. He can make you miss. And he
had that fake to the right, spin back out to
the left, he had that step forward, step back move.
Cam had everything you needed to be an a loosive quarterback.
But then when you hit him, it's like, please go
down because he had all this paddy He had pads
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on his arms, he had pads on his calves, he
had the flack jacket. It's like, Cam, come on, Doug,
you already to sixty. Why are you wearing all this stuff?
But he's wearing all that stuff and he's still moving
the way he's moving like you really had to jump
on Cam to get him on the ground.
Speaker 10 (35:50):
Cam was He's one of the best. Man.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Do you still have your Batman themes rolls Royce.
Speaker 9 (35:58):
I have the Rose Royce but to Kobe after Kobe
passed away, so it was Batman, but I have I
So what I have now is I have a Batman
themed cyber truck and I have my Batman chained on too, So.
Speaker 10 (36:15):
I'm you all that man, Yeah, I'm all Batman.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
How did you trick out the Kobe rules? Rice?
Speaker 10 (36:23):
It's red? Still red?
Speaker 9 (36:24):
And I put the Mamba logo on the front of
my hood. So do you ever meet him?
Speaker 10 (36:33):
I did meet Kobe.
Speaker 9 (36:34):
I met Kobe at the Player's Tribune meeting in LA
And for somebody to be somebody you looked up to,
so they kept talking about the Players Rebune meeting and
I was part of the Players Commune and they were
having a big meeting in LA and they called me
and they was like, hey, this year.
Speaker 10 (36:52):
Last, last year, Kobe is supposed to be there. He
wasn't there. This year, he's for sure going, He's for
sure confirmed. Are you going. I'm like, I'm already headed
to the airport.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
So like, so I.
Speaker 10 (37:05):
Get there and I'm in the meeting.
Speaker 9 (37:07):
I'm seeing all these people, Michael phipps uh, these Von Miller's,
these these Paul Pierce's, these just all these time, Maria Sheri, Povah's,
all these like people like Kd's in there, Blake Griffin
and all these and I'm like I know Blake, I
know kd, I know Von, I know all these people.
Derek Jeter got to meet Derek Jeter. But you know,
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he's in Tampa all the time, so I had met
him before. But I'm like, hey, listen, no offense. Where
is he at?
Speaker 5 (37:35):
You know?
Speaker 10 (37:36):
So I see him walk down the steps and.
Speaker 9 (37:39):
I'm like, oh my gosh, this is happening. And he
just walks in and he's just a normal dude. He's
just a normal dude.
Speaker 10 (37:47):
Man. He walked up.
Speaker 9 (37:48):
He was like, he's a big fellow, and he's shaking
everybody hand and they sitting down.
Speaker 10 (37:51):
We have a meeting. We go through the play as
rebut we have a great meeting.
Speaker 9 (37:55):
Then afterwards we went outside to the pool where they
just happened the after party and he comes outside and
he comes he's sitting next to me and he slapped
me on the legs, like what's up, big dog? How
you doing? And we like over the conversation. Then I
asked for a picture and then he leaves. It's just
like it was almost like the perfect meeting of one
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of your like heroes, honestly, and one of the people
I looked up to my entire career man, and it
was a great feeling. So yes, I did have opportunity
to meet Kobe.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
More nervous with that or playing in a big in
a playoff game.
Speaker 10 (38:32):
It was.
Speaker 9 (38:32):
I was more nervous meeting Kobe for sure, because you
don't want to mess it up, you know, like you
know it's just meeting him, but you still like you
don't want to be you just don't want to be
weird man like I'm and I'm I'm I'm not a
nervous person like I'm not. I don't get nervous really,
you know, I don't really get embarrassed if I fall
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in front of the thousands of people. I just get
up like dang, y'all just tripped the field. But that's
just how I am. Like, I don't really get advartance
like that, So you know I was.
Speaker 10 (39:04):
But I was.
Speaker 9 (39:05):
Really nervous to meet Kobe as much as I've been
wanting to meet him, and all these things I'm gonna
say to him when I meet.
Speaker 10 (39:10):
Him, and all that, I hadn't do. None of that.
I didn't do none of this.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
None of this could a couple of football things here,
the contract situation with Trey Hendricks and Michael Parsons. Terry McLaurin, Yeah,
which one? Which one is? You know potentially serious that it?
You know, a player could change teams.
Speaker 9 (39:34):
If I have somebody that could really change the team,
is Michael Parsons THEO.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Going to another team?
Speaker 10 (39:40):
Gonna go to another team?
Speaker 9 (39:42):
Probably Trendon a Trey Henders said, there's a real possibility
he could get traded. You think about san Fran could
trade for him. I would love to see him go
to the Bucks. He could, you know, possibly Washington, Washington
definitely use him to Missing Peace. But I think it's
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the real possibility he can get traded out of there.
Because we've seen the history of Cincinnati. They just they
just don't pay people. It's just like this is always
like a reoccurring thing. Then we always looking at Cincinnati
like what the heck are y'all doing with Why y'all
don't want to pay anybody?
Speaker 10 (40:18):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (40:18):
Terry McLaurin, I don't see getting traded. Mike could definitely
is not getting traded. But yeah, if I have to
pick anybody's trade, Hendrickson.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Give me your sneaky team this year.
Speaker 9 (40:30):
The Raiders. The Raiders. He Carroll, he's a ten win coach.
It's just it's just what he does. It's some people
you just like, they just this is what they do.
It may not be glamorous or whatever, but this is
just what they do. You just look up. It's like, man,
he averaged a double double again, how the heck is
he doing this? That's just that's Pete carries one of
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them guys with ten wins. He just he knows how
to win. He has a formula. He runs the ball,
physical run game. He had Marshall Lynn. You go get
Ashton jim t because this is my style, this is
what I want to do. You go out and get
a quarterback that you know can play. That's a vet
that you don't have to teach him. He's won some games,
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made the playoffs. Gino Smith, you already got brought Bowers.
You go draft offensive lineman so you can run the
ball and be physical.
Speaker 10 (41:21):
You got your.
Speaker 9 (41:22):
Receivers that could take the top off the defense. Max
Crosby's on the other side. I know with John Spotech
the GM. I was with him in Tampa. I know
his philosophy and how he builds teams. I just believe
that this team is going to shock a lot of
people with the things they can do, but the formula
they have, Pete Carroll's just a winner. And in that
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city in Vegas, Pete Carroll fits that perfect. He recruited
me when he was at USC, so I've seen how
he can handle big cities and how he can handle
the lights. And we've seen it in Seattle, going to
two Super Bowls, going to multiple MC championship, winning a
super Bowl. This is just who Pete Carroll is, and
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I know what he can do, and I believe that
they're going to be a team that sneaks up on
a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Oklahoma paid better than USC.
Speaker 9 (42:15):
Hey, listen, let me tell you something. I'm in the
clear now. I didn't get anything. But I tell people
all the time. I tell people that's all the time.
Y'all can't do nothing to me now if I'm not
one of the people that's gonna get on here and say, hey, no,
I would to took nothing. Please all right, Hey, hey, hey,
I'm from south side Oklahoma City. We ain't had much.
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I needed all I could get, but I didn't get nothing.
So you know whatever, Oh you was just oh you hey.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I don't blame players getting money. You know, getting a
hand down, but you can do it.
Speaker 9 (42:54):
Yeah at this man, listen, college is you go for
the reasons you go, you know back then and everything
has changed. I go talk to these teams, these guys
that owe you these income and recruits. I've talked to
the team that's there now and when I was there.
I tell people the times of going to a school
because you grew up loving the school or the tradition
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or this is o you. I know them days over with,
so I'm not one of the people they bring you
in and I go talk.
Speaker 10 (43:20):
To a team like we have a standard, we have it,
this and.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
This and this.
Speaker 9 (43:25):
That's not me, I say, I know the reasons for
people going to different schools are different now, but if
you're going to be here, be here.
Speaker 10 (43:37):
Don't have your mind somewhere else.
Speaker 9 (43:39):
Find whatever reason it is you're here, and do it
for that at this school.
Speaker 10 (43:44):
And then I go on to.
Speaker 9 (43:45):
The tradition of oe you if you're gonna wear these
colors while you're here, at least uphold what we are
standard is while you're here. If you want to leave
after that, then go, that's fine. If you don't want
to be here, you don't have to be here, but
why you're here uphold this standard that this school has
always had. So that's kind of my message to the
new generation because I know it's different reasons why kids
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are going there.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
So you gave you a better deal than the US. Seriously,
I wish hey keep killing it there on NFL Network.
Great to have you on. We appreciate your time.
Speaker 10 (44:22):
Hey, I appreciate you. I hav me any time.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
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Best and Worst of the weekend. What you saw that
you liked and didn't like. We'll come up with a
poll question. Seaton will do the honors, but first let
me run down in no particular order. Scotty Scheffler wins
the BMW fifth win of the season, and it's his sport.
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Now when you think about it, you know, Tiger separated
himself eventually. You know Phil was kind of there, Ernie
Els was there. You had other guys who were kind
of on the periphery who would you know sometime they
would step up in a week and challenge him, maybe
beat him. But this is Scotty Scheffler's and you're watching it,
and it's very methodical. It is, you know, drip drip, drip,
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water torture as opposed to a guillotine. Tiger was a guillotine.
He would just cut your head off. Scotty's like, yep,
there he is again, and there he is again, and
there he is again. And then he did this on
the next to last hole yesterday. And this is how
it sounded. Do we have Scotty Scheffler Marvin or is
that our play of the day?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
That is our play of the day.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh okay, so we're gonna save that. Okay, fair enough.
So Scotty Scheffler wins the BMW. I think the Happy
Gilmore cameo at the end of Happy Gilmore too. You
have over one hundred million people who have streamed that movie.
And I think this has helped too, that Scotty is
I don't know if he's embraceable, but he's likable, he's enjoyable,
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and you're watching and you're going, Okay, he's making fun
of himself, and I think that really helped. And he,
you know, had a four shot deficit and he caught
Robert McIntyre and then of course had some really great
performances shots that you want. You know, I hate when
somebody backs into a title, and Scotty Scheffler did not
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back into a title. He went out, grabbed it and
won it, his fifth PGA Tour title of the season
and the first player to win five straight times on
the PGA Tour in consecutive years since Tiger Woods back
in six and seven. And I know it sounds blasphemous
to say, you know, put Scotty Scheffler in Tiger Woods
in the same you know conversation. I'm not talking about
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the style, the presentation. I'm talking about the end result.
And that's where Scotty deserves to be put in that category. Now,
granted it's a smaller sample size. But if you're looking
at Tiger at his tiger Ish peak, Scotty is, you know,
at least close, he's at least in the conversation with that.
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And once again, he's never he still looks like Carl
Spackler from what is it the Caddyshack. Yeah, whenever I
see him, you know he's got the beard there. It
just looks like Bill Murray's character in Caddyshack. But he
did it in a methodical way once again and very
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impressive going into the Tour Championship. Also, preseason football, I
think we got to declare moratorium on going crazy with
our referendums on preseason football because I do have a
dilemma here. And I talk about this in certain sports
or athletes or teams where it's clickbait. And I have
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told you this many many times. I don't subscribe to it.
I don't want to do it. It may, you know,
not be beneficial for this show or this my career.
But I have to present something when I feel like
it needs to be presented. And I'm watching shudor Sanders
play and I realized I have to pick a side.
It almost feels like you either say, hey, really, he
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looked great, or hey, okay, you can't even cover it
yet be in the middle, you know, kind of neutral
with it, which is what I'm trying to be. I
thought he played really well, and then all of a sudden,
I see the coverage for Dylan Gabriel and you know,
I had a fumble and that had interception. The interception
was in his fault. And Jackson Dark with the Giants
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played well, but nobody's going to talk about that. So
you're trying to find a middle ground with this with
what you say in the preseason, and it kind of
comes with, you know, a paustionary tale. You know, we'll
play these back in January, you know, when the season's
over for a lot of these rookies, then we'll probably
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come back and go that was said. You know, it's
like freezing cold takes. We'll bring him back. And you know,
this person said this, I think should Or Sanders will
start a game for the Browns this season, said that
when they drafted him. But I don't have an agenda here,
and anybody who you know, believes in and should Or
Sanders shouldn't have been surprised at how he played. That
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was the surprising part of it. If you think he
can play, then why were you surprised. I expect him
to be good. He played well in college. I voted
for him third on my Heisman ballot. But you know,
this outpour of media, I mean it was gushing, it
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was dripping. It's like easy here, and you know he's
limited now due to an injury. I don't think he's
going to be their starting quarterback. I think it's Joe Flacco.
But I do think he'll get a chance. But I
think we need to be fair to Dylan Gabriel as
well in this situation. And if you want to throw
in Kenny Pickett, you know, it's kind of a hodgepodge
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of quarterbacks there. But Shador Sanders played well. It's one
game in the preseason. It's like summer league basketball where
all of a sudden, I'll come in and go, oh
my gosh, this guy put up forty for the Pistons.
He don't even make the roster. I think should or
will play. But you do have to pick a side
almost because if I say something negative, well I'm a hater.
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And then if I praise Shador Sanders, then I'm, you know,
on the bandwagon. With Dion and his son. I expect
him to play well, and he did play well, and
you can celebrate that, but I don't know what that means.
I did want to see composure. We talked Drew Brees
before vacation, and you know he wants to see those
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guys who have a good thirty starts. Now that's where
you really get a sense of how good a quarterback
is or is going to be. Jayden Daniels and bow
Nicks had over fifty starts in their careers, playing at
two different places. Now you get a good sample size.
That's why we've had a lot of these quarterbacks recently,
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high draft picks who maybe had one really good season
in college. It's not enough for me, and I think
that that's where we need to have buyer be ware
with all of this. Shad Or Sanders played well, but
I hate picking a side because I don't really have
a side on it. I want to be neutral with him.
You have football coming up tonight. You have the Commanders
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and the Bengals. This is the holdout game, so Commanders
in the Bengals. The Bengals their minus five three and
a half in case you care, but this is the
Trey Hendrickson, Terry McLaurin game, neither will be there. And
this is where you know I said this about Michah Parsons.
If I hear that they're listening to offers in Dallas
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or somebody is making an offer, now you have my attention.
I truly believe that this will come down to the
last week before we get to the regular season, and
Jerry will own all the headlines and Micah Parsons will
be brought in and he'll proudly say he's the highest
paid non quarterback in the game, and then we'll move on.
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But as far as the Bengals go there listening, you know,
reportedly listening to trade offers, Now you have my attention.
And if you knew that you weren't going to sign him,
and you knew that he was going to hold firm
in what he wanted, then why didn't you think about
this prior to the draft? Why didn't you trade him?
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That's when you could get more for him. But here
you are, and you're probably going to waste another Joe
Burrows season. You sign up your best receivers and you
have a defense that prevented you from making the postseason.
So this is where you look at if I'm a
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fan and I go, you know, management failed us. Either
trade him back in March prior to the draft, or
sign him up. Let's go. You know, you only have
so many opportunities here, and you got a franchise quarterback,
a great quarterback, and great wide receivers. You're gonna have
to score a lot of points. Even if you have
Trey Hendrickson, and then you have Terry McLaurin. You had
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this wonderful season last year, surprised everybody. He wants to
be paid. He wants to be paid accordingly to you know,
other receivers in the game. He doesn't do anything dynamic,
but he is there and he had a wonderful season,
and hopefully he gets the money he deserves. I hope
Trey Hendrickson gets the money. I think it's really easy
(09:59):
to go. Let me blame the player. If I look
at production, Trey Hendrickson has been better than TJ Want
the last two years. Terry McLaurin his numbers, I can't
deny the numbers. But the NFL does not pay you
on what you did. They pay you on what they
think you'll do. And that's when thirty years of age
(10:21):
in Cincinnati is different than thirty years of age in
Pittsburgh because TJ want got paid.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
All right, yes, PAULI, how about halftime tonight to spice
up the game, Trey Henderson negotiates with the Bengals live
on air. Twelve minutes halftime. You got to get the
contract done. You got twelve minutes. McLaurin, same thing. That's
good TV.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Sure, I'm good with that. Bengals probably wouldn't be in
favor of that. I'd love to know what those negotiations
sound like, feel like, and I mean, while we're at it,
and then you get but Jerry has to only have
the player in there. He doesn't want to have the agent.
So Jerry Joe couldn't do that, But wouldn't You'd love
to see how that goes down back and forth. This
(11:06):
is where what happens in the in these situations. And
it happened to me that management can tell your agent
whatever they want to tell them. Now, they wouldn't tell
you necessarily, but they will say, hey, as you know,
the great Mark Shapiro of the ESPN said to my agent,
you're over the hill. He's over the hill. And he'll
never get another job. Well, he says that to my agent,
(11:28):
and I'm like, God when he say that to me,
Yes he would, But you know it's per you know,
it's business, but for Trey hendricks and Terry McLaurin, it's personal.
This is their salary, this is their future, this is
their life. For Mike Brown and I mean, he's like,
this is just another contract for him, another holdout, another
(11:50):
situation that is so bengal esh And then you got
the commanders as well with Terry McLaurin. So, uh, you know,
proceed with caution in the preseason, going to reiterate that here, Satan,
what's the pole question today? Well, we could start there
in the NFL if you want. And actually, I've been
looking at a bunch of different articles about the best
(12:13):
destinations for Trey Hendrickson. I can't tell if some of
them are actually good destinations or if some of them
are just wishful thinking too right, So, like the Alliance
or top of that list, I think that would be great.
I do think they might have the wrong I'm not
a salary capologist, but I think they might have room
(12:35):
for something like that. And this is a team that
I don't think they had a sack against the Commanders
in the playoffs. In their playoff game, Aiden Hutchinson of
course was out, but Detroit Is won. What are the
other ones?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I got a long list here, Buccaneers on that list.
That could be fun, Okay, it could be fun. I
think he lives in Florida. Commanders seem to be on
every list right now as a destination for people the
Chicago Bears. If you're Trey Hendrickson, are you leaving the
(13:10):
Bengals to go to the Bears.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I think he's leaving to go wherever they'll pay him.
I don't think he's loyal to Cincinnati. Just go. Here's
three years for thirty million dollars a year, thirty five
million dollars a year. How's that they are all done?
Three for one hundred, all done, sixty million guaranteed or
something done? Good? Good, Let's go. But I don't think
(13:35):
he goes Man, I really want to stay in Cincinnati. Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I had the current list of salary cap space in
the NFL. The Lions are number two. They have forty
seven million currently in open cap spits.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
All right, good point?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Any other places seating now? Here's that was one list
that I saw. This next four teams are a separate
list that I saw. The Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, would you rather.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Hold out or play for the pace?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
This is the holdout or playlist?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
No, no, because I'd rather I just want to get paid.
If I'm Trey Hendrickson, I don't care, So I'm I'm
you know, even Carolin? All right, Caroline is nice. You know,
maybe he looks good in those uniforms.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
You think he just wants to get paid?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yes, yes, at this stage of the game. Yes, yes,
have been to a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
How about the Cleveland Browns team up with Miles Garrett?
It could be unstoppable there.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Bengals wouldn't trade in in the division, I don't think. Okay,
how about the Colts? Okay, yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I went back and looked to see if Trey Hendrickson
ever made huge money. He's never gotten top end defensive
end salary. He made nineteen million a couple of years ago,
eighteen million and twenty twenty three, quite a bit less
than his contemporary. He's at sixty eight million dollars in
his career.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But this is it.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
This is the last deal and this upcoming year he
will be making sixteen million, which is less than half
of Garrett and Watt.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
All right, let's take a break. We'll settle on a
poll question. We did have the Michigan verdict. After two years,
they finally NCAA showing its teeth, of course, but we'll
talk about that coming up. And also there's and it's
in the early stages that the Big Ten is offering
up a proposal for playoff expansion that could be twenty
(15:36):
four to twenty eight teams. Early stages, but I mean
we're headed in this direction. We just are.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
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Speaker 2 (16:30):
Let's bring in Ross who joins us? Now? How would
you summarize the NCAA's punishment of Michigan football.
Speaker 8 (16:39):
Ooh, that's a good question, Dan. I would summarize it, as.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
You know. I guess it depends on who you asked, Dan.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
You know, if you ask Michigan people, right, they say
it was too hard and the penalties financially or too stiff,
and that's probably a point of why they're appealing. Right,
if you ask everybody else in college football and college sports,
they'll say it was way, way too light, right, that
the NCAA should have given Michigan a postseason ban, and
(17:11):
they should have vacated wins in championships, and they should
have added more suspension and penalties.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
To the current head football coach, Sharon More.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
I think what the NCAA did, and they're starting to
move away from the vacated wins, right, they're starting to
move away from postseason bands because it penalizes sort of
innocent players that are currently on the team in future
players that will be on the team, So they're.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Kind of moving away from that.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
So they're just substituting these financial penalties, you know, for
the postseason ban. And if you look at the full penalties,
accumulative penalties, financial penalties, it's going to be over thirty
million dollars and probably as much as thirty five thirty
seven million dollars. I mean, that is a historic penalty
that we've just never seeing anything like it. And I
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know it's easy to sort of roll your eyes that
they have a lot of money and they can pay it.
We're in an age of athlete compensation where they're going
to be everybody's going to be paying, you know, twenty
million dollars to their athletes starting this year. So I
don't think it's anything necessarily to roll the eyes at.
I think it was a pretty significant penalty, but it's
(18:24):
probably not what most people believed that they deserved. And
I think and I'll say one more thing about that, Dan,
is that if the NCAAA, which was tipped off in
October twenty twenty three, in the middle of that season.
That twenty twenty three season was tipped off to this
this Signce Deealing took a few days to start to
really vet it, realize it was real, and then alerted
(18:47):
the Big Ten, who then suspended Jim harb all those
three games. If Dan, if that doesn't happen and they
don't suspend and the Big Ten doesn't decide to suspend
Jim Harball, the NCAA doesn't alert the Big Ten of this,
Michigan probably does get vacated wins and maybe even gets
a postseason ban.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Wait to explain why.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
I think the fact that you sort of dealt with
it immediately during that season. I think there's a thought
that the three games that the head coach was suspended,
and you remember he was suspended I think two or
three games earlier that season two for a separate investigation.
(19:31):
The fact that they immediately took action, you know, and
I think Charlie Baker said this after they won the championship,
is that you can't argue that they wanted sort of
fair and squares something like that. And and part of
the reason he said that is because of that three
game suspension for Jim Harborough.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
It's like, we dealt.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
With it then, right, we dealt with it there, and
I think they took that, the Committee on Infractions took
that under consideration, and if that wouldn't have happened, I
just have a belief that that championship would have been
in jeopardy of being vacated.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
If I asked Jim Harbaugh, did you cheat or not him?
If I ask him did Michigan cheat? What do you
think his answer would be? If I just said yes
or no, did Michigan cheat?
Speaker 8 (20:24):
I can't imagine Jim Harbaugh acknowledging in any way that
the University of Michigan cheated, or that he cheated, or that.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Anybody on its staff cheated.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
You know, Michigan as well as Jim Harbaugh, i'm sure,
continues to contend that they really received not much of
a of an advantage from a signce stealing in the
advanced scouting, and that it shouldn't have been illegal, and
that it should it should be legal to go scout
your opponents. And many times Michigan administrators and coaches have
(20:58):
come to me and said, look, you know, years ago
this rule was almost changed to permit schools to do it,
but it's sort of a cost containment issue, and so
they continue.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
To contend that they they didn't get any advantage.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
And again, everybody else writing college sports will tell you
they did get an advantage, and I think the Committee
on Infractions thought they did get an advantage. And if
we were in any other era Dan before this sort
of revshare type of era, Michigan would have received a
postseason ban almost certainly, and they would have had scholarship productions.
(21:35):
But this is sort of a new world, and so
they decided not to do that and go instead with
the financial penalties.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Okay, Jim Harbaugh has a ten year show cons which
means he can't come back and coach in college. Correct.
If it's now, that seems like a really harsh punishment
for him if he goes back. But he's not going back.
My question though, would be if he was still there,
what would his punishment be if this is his punishment
(22:06):
and he's not there.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Ross.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Yeah. Norman Bay, who was the chief, he was like
the chairman I think of the Committee on Infractions. He
gave a press conference last week after the ruling and
he was asked exactly that Basically, he was asked what
would have happened if Jim Harball was still the head coach?
Speaker 5 (22:27):
What would the penalties have been?
Speaker 8 (22:30):
And there was like, literally, Dan, there was like an
eight second pause and he just stared at the camera
and you could see the wheels turning, like, oh boy,
what do I say here? Finally he really sort of
danced around the question of you know, it's a hypothetical,
we're not going to get into that, but fairly clearly
the penalties would have been a lot more severe if
(22:51):
Jim Harball was Michigan's coach. There's no doubt about it
that it would have been a lot more severe. I mean,
I say that they have sort of stopped doing the postseason,
but if Michigan, if Jim Harball was still coach at Michigan,
you know, if it wasn't going to be if there
wasn't going to be a postseason ban, there was going
to be some kind of like season worth of suspensions
(23:13):
for him.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Talking to Ross Dellinger, Yahoo Sports senior college football reporter,
I saw the story floated by the Big Ten or
the Big Ten has an idea for playoff expansion twenty
four or twenty eight teams, and we're looking at the
Big ten and the SEC that they would get half
the field, and then you have the ACC and Big
(23:38):
twelve they get five bids, and then you would have
two automatic bids for the non Power four conferences and
two at large teams. So that escalated quickly. That were
at least we're talking about this. Now we're I know
we're headed towards this. Why how long is it going
(24:00):
to take to get there?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I think it's still going to take long.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
And I think this idea is just was just an
idea and is just an idea, right, it was somebody
kind of described it to me.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I thought it was pretty accurate.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
Back of the napkin stuff like this, what really is
like this is very very preliminary.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
So this was a wor a week a week ago.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
So last Monday, I think our last Tuesday, the Big
ten had a meeting with its its athletic administrators and
kind of just sort of presented this, Hey what do
you think and everybody sort of gave it the thumbs up, right,
and then they sent it to the SEC last middle
last week, early last week, and there was a preliminate
(24:47):
the first call between Big ten Commissioner Tony Pettiti and
SEC Commissioner Greg sank Friday about it, and it was
just sort of a going through it.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
What do we think of this?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You know it?
Speaker 8 (24:57):
I think the Big ten is sort of like trying
to get a feel for where the SEC is, and
there's really been no answer there from the SEC. But
this week there could be some kind of answer. The
SEC Athletic Directors meet for a regularly scheduled meeting this
week and so I'm guessing it will come up. But Dan,
this is so preliminary, like it's on I heard about
(25:18):
it Thursday. I decided that I wouldn't write about it
because it was so preliminary. ESPN did write about it
on Saturday, which forced all of us to write about it.
But I went to somebody who was very involved in
the process about like, Hey, I'm writing something. They're like,
there's nothing to write. This is a non story. It's
just starting. We haven't even gotten to the first step
(25:38):
of it. And they are right, I mean, this is
very preliminary, so I think we're still a ways away.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
But Dan, I think we always knew when we went.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
College, when college football went from two to four and certainly,
when it went from four to twelve, we knew this
was inevitably it was going to go to at least sixteen,
and so I think that's still where the focus is.
It's trying to get this thing to sixteen. But there's
a deadline December one where they have to make a
decision on next year's playoff. Obviously, this year's is twelve,
(26:07):
and that's all set. We're trying to decide on next
year and then there and in the next five years. Right,
the new kind of six year extension that starts next year,
so they have to December one. I have a feeling
next year's playoff will be where it is this year.
It certainly will not be twenty four to twenty eight teams, right,
This is not happening within a year.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Great to talk to you, Thanks for joining us, No problem,
Thank you, Ross Dellinger.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
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Speaker 2 (26:46):
He's Gerald McCoy. He was a former defensive tackle, six
time Pro Bowler, and third overall pick in the draft
twenty ten. I believe three of the four top four
were from Oklahoma, right, Jerald.
Speaker 9 (27:01):
That sounds absolutely perfect. Yes, it was three to four picks.
It was Sam and then I went and then Trent
went number four.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
And then and Dominican Sue was in there as well.
Speaker 10 (27:16):
It was two. Yes, but.
Speaker 9 (27:19):
Five of the top six were from the Big twelve,
so we had something going that year.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Okay, let me give the official introduction. NFL Network carries
six preseason games that'll be coming up a quadruple header
this Saturday, August twenty third, starting at one Eastern on
NFL Network. Do coaches give pregame speeches in the preseason.
Speaker 10 (27:44):
Yeah, they do.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
Preseason is still about preparing the team, and somebody has
to play the game, whether it's the starters, the backups, whoever.
The game still has to be played. And most coaches say, hey,
they keeping scoring. We want to go out and win,
and we've been working on all these things, whether you've
had joint practices or not, whether you've just been practicing together,
(28:07):
whatever we've been working on.
Speaker 10 (28:08):
Coach wants to go see you executed in the game.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
The coaches do a great job of not trying to
downplay what preseason is that's more like the starters and
the players that will do something like that. But the
coaches they locked in at all times. I'm talking about
they still yelling on the sideline. They still is still
a game. So yeah, they do can get pregame.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Speeches, Okay, But how do I process the Bills getting
blown out by the Bears? That we know the Bills
are good, they got embarrassed by the Bears. Let me
look at it from the Bills perspective of how would
you feel if you played for the Bills and you
got blown out like that?
Speaker 9 (28:48):
Well, it's not a great feeling because we've been practiced,
We've still been practicing, and we've still been working on
the things that we do.
Speaker 10 (28:55):
So you go out in the game and don't put up.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
Any points like none, that is, that's not a great
feeling for whoever's out there because preseason, some of these
games might be the only NFL football some of these
guys ever played, and they live and tell stories off
their preseason experience and their game.
Speaker 10 (29:14):
So if you go out there.
Speaker 9 (29:15):
And the only experience you've ever had you got blown
out thirty eight zero, that's not a story you want
to tell. But also for the coaches who are trying
to look for the special teams players and the guys
who might be the backups. It's not a good look
for them either. So I'm pretty sure those meetings are
not pleasant this week.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
What's it like when somebody gets cut in training camp?
Speaker 9 (29:38):
It's horrible. It's something you don't want to see. I
remember in the spring, we this wasn't even training camp,
it's a spring. I can't remember what year it was,
but all the d line it got together after workouts
and meetings and we went to see a movie. And
while we were sitting in the theater during the movie,
one of the guys instead of was all right, Fellas,
(29:59):
I'm gonna get out of it, it was like the
movie just started. He was like, Oh, they just cut me,
so I gotta get out of here. I was like,
and we were just like, Bro, do we sitting enjoy
the movie or do we leave? Like we don't. We
don't know what to do. It's a it's a bad feeling.
I've seen so many different cuts. We've been sitting in
the meeting the day of final cuts, and you feel
(30:20):
like once you make it to team meeting, all right,
we're good. But I found that out many a time,
even making it to that meeting. It's not so you
walk around, you see people like looking around the corner
hoping they don't you know, get called, and then you
get in the team meeting. One time we was in
the team meeting the team's starting and Shelton Quarrels. We
called him the grim Reaper in Tampa because he was
(30:41):
the one who would come grab you. So we was
all like, you know, like everybody look out for the
grim Reaper. So we we sit at the team meeting
and then we see we hear that back door open up,
and everybody turned around and Shelton. We was like, oh
my gosh, he came to grab somebody. And then one
time it was week one, Week one, the first practice,
(31:04):
so we come back that Monday before the first week.
It's not that Wednesday. Is that Monday? So you want
to get to that Wednesday. So the Monday comes up,
we outside of practice and Shelton walks on the field
to practice to the warm ups and grab somebody off
the field. I was like wow, I said, man, this
business is ruthless. This is just yeah, it's not a
(31:25):
great feeling. It's not something you want to see.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And because it's your dream. Yeah, think if you made
it through the first week. In the first game, it's
it's like, Okay, I feel like I've made the roster.
I'm pretty safe there.
Speaker 10 (31:40):
That's what it feels like.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
But I tell people all the time, man, the NFL
is about adjustments, not just game day adjustments. You really
have to adjust to everything, just to new coaches adjust
new players, adjust to the weather. Everybody plays hurt, nobody's
healthy after the first day of practice.
Speaker 10 (31:59):
It's just a game of adjustments.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
This roster you start with, even in week one, might
not be the roster you go into the game with,
but definitely the ross you start with week one at
the roster you go in week seventeen with.
Speaker 10 (32:10):
So it's just all about adjustments.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Is Gerald McCoy works for NFL Network as an analyst
and former defensive tackle. NFL Network has six preseason games
that'll be a quadruple header this Saturday, August twenty third,
starting at one Eastern. The difference in the sound of
a rookie quarterback at the line of scrimmage and Tom
(32:32):
Brady any veteran in any of those guys, the sound
their voice is their difference. If I say, just listen,
you can tell a rookie at the line of scrimmage
and a veteran.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
Yeah, you can definitely tell the difference, the level of confidence,
how to operate, even the communication from the office of
the line rookies depending on who's the center. This is
what a lot of people want to know is I
don't care how good the rookie is. If he has
a vet center, he's going to depend a lot on
(33:08):
his center for protections.
Speaker 10 (33:10):
Changing plays a lot of things that's going.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
So you may hear the rookie calling it, but they're
real indecisive with things they want to do.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
The center helps them out a lot. I remember this
happening with.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
Cam trying to think of some other young guys that
I played. I really can only really think of Cam
right now because that's why I played in the division.
Speaker 10 (33:31):
But Ryan Couli will help Cam out a lot.
Speaker 9 (33:33):
Cam was very decisive as he got older, But when
we first played, Cam would call things out. But we'll
be at the line and Ryan would be calling out, no,
we're not doing this, We're going here here Cam, and
they would be going back and forth like okay, confirming
what's going on, but then he played at Drew Brees
or Matt Ryan and oh shoot.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Kill kill kill kill you, Like, man, what the.
Speaker 10 (33:55):
Heck is going on?
Speaker 8 (33:57):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (33:57):
Switching well, I think please check ain't something because Drew
was out there, like Drew is cerebral man, and he
listened and Drew me and Drew tray together.
Speaker 10 (34:06):
So that's what made that fun.
Speaker 9 (34:08):
He would be talking like looking at me, like making
changes like look at me, dead in my face, like
let me know, y'all not about to stop this, you know.
So it was it was always fus you know, going
back and forth with Drew.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
What was it like to tackle Cam Newton?
Speaker 9 (34:27):
So I don't know if y'allve ever seen like Toddler's
like really feel like they can take their parent down,
like really feel like they can jump on their dad's
leg and tackle them and then the dad is like
like wrapped around their leg and they just like dragging
you across the carpet. That's pretty much what it feels
like trying to take Cam down. Because Cam, in my
(34:49):
time was the most elusive. I still think he's the
most elusive quarterback ever, simply because we've seen Lamar, we've
seen Vic seen Randall cunning here. We've seen all these
people be elusive to where they can escape. But Cam
was doing everything they're doing at six six to fifty
to sixty doing it. But he's just as smooth. He
(35:13):
can run, not as fast, but he can run very fast.
He's outrunning people. He can make you miss. And he
had that fake to the right, spin back out to
the left, he had that step forward, step back move.
Cam had everything you needed to be an a loosive quarterback.
But then when you hit him, it's like, please go
down because he had all this paddy He had pads
(35:35):
on his arms, he had pads on his calves, he
had the flack jacket. It's like, Cam, come on, Doug,
you already to sixty. Why are you wearing all this stuff?
But he's wearing all that stuff and he's still moving
the way he's moving like you really had to jump
on Cam to get him on the ground.
Speaker 10 (35:50):
Cam was He's one of the best. Man.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Do you still have your Batman themes rolls Royce.
Speaker 9 (35:58):
I have the Rose Royce but to Kobe after Kobe
passed away, so it was Batman, but I have I
So what I have now is I have a Batman
themed cyber truck and I have my Batman chained on too, So.
Speaker 10 (36:15):
I'm you all that man, Yeah, I'm all Batman.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
How did you trick out the Kobe rules? Rice?
Speaker 10 (36:23):
It's red? Still red?
Speaker 9 (36:24):
And I put the Mamba logo on the front of
my hood. So do you ever meet him?
Speaker 10 (36:33):
I did meet Kobe.
Speaker 9 (36:34):
I met Kobe at the Player's Tribune meeting in LA
And for somebody to be somebody you looked up to,
so they kept talking about the Players Rebune meeting and
I was part of the Players Commune and they were
having a big meeting in LA and they called me
and they was like, hey, this year.
Speaker 10 (36:52):
Last, last year, Kobe is supposed to be there. He
wasn't there. This year, he's for sure going, He's for
sure confirmed. Are you going. I'm like, I'm already headed
to the airport.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
So like, so I.
Speaker 10 (37:05):
Get there and I'm in the meeting.
Speaker 9 (37:07):
I'm seeing all these people, Michael phipps uh, these Von Miller's,
these these Paul Pierce's, these just all these time, Maria Sheri, Povah's,
all these like people like Kd's in there, Blake Griffin
and all these and I'm like I know Blake, I
know kd, I know Von, I know all these people.
Derek Jeter got to meet Derek Jeter. But you know,
(37:27):
he's in Tampa all the time, so I had met
him before. But I'm like, hey, listen, no offense. Where
is he at?
Speaker 5 (37:35):
You know?
Speaker 10 (37:36):
So I see him walk down the steps and.
Speaker 9 (37:39):
I'm like, oh my gosh, this is happening. And he
just walks in and he's just a normal dude. He's
just a normal dude.
Speaker 10 (37:47):
Man. He walked up.
Speaker 9 (37:48):
He was like, he's a big fellow, and he's shaking
everybody hand and they sitting down.
Speaker 10 (37:51):
We have a meeting. We go through the play as
rebut we have a great meeting.
Speaker 9 (37:55):
Then afterwards we went outside to the pool where they
just happened the after party and he comes outside and
he comes he's sitting next to me and he slapped
me on the legs, like what's up, big dog? How
you doing? And we like over the conversation. Then I
asked for a picture and then he leaves. It's just
like it was almost like the perfect meeting of one
(38:15):
of your like heroes, honestly, and one of the people
I looked up to my entire career man, and it
was a great feeling. So yes, I did have opportunity
to meet Kobe.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
More nervous with that or playing in a big in
a playoff game.
Speaker 10 (38:32):
It was.
Speaker 9 (38:32):
I was more nervous meeting Kobe for sure, because you
don't want to mess it up, you know, like you
know it's just meeting him, but you still like you
don't want to be you just don't want to be
weird man like I'm and I'm I'm I'm not a
nervous person like I'm not. I don't get nervous really,
you know, I don't really get embarrassed if I fall
(38:55):
in front of the thousands of people. I just get
up like dang, y'all just tripped the field. But that's
just how I am. Like, I don't really get advartance
like that, So you know I was.
Speaker 10 (39:04):
But I was.
Speaker 9 (39:05):
Really nervous to meet Kobe as much as I've been
wanting to meet him, and all these things I'm gonna
say to him when I meet.
Speaker 10 (39:10):
Him, and all that, I hadn't do. None of that.
I didn't do none of this.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
None of this could a couple of football things here,
the contract situation with Trey Hendricks and Michael Parsons. Terry McLaurin, Yeah,
which one? Which one is? You know potentially serious that it?
You know, a player could change teams.
Speaker 9 (39:34):
If I have somebody that could really change the team,
is Michael Parsons THEO.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Going to another team?
Speaker 10 (39:40):
Gonna go to another team?
Speaker 9 (39:42):
Probably Trendon a Trey Henders said, there's a real possibility
he could get traded. You think about san Fran could
trade for him. I would love to see him go
to the Bucks. He could, you know, possibly Washington, Washington
definitely use him to Missing Peace. But I think it's
(40:02):
the real possibility he can get traded out of there.
Because we've seen the history of Cincinnati. They just they
just don't pay people. It's just like this is always
like a reoccurring thing. Then we always looking at Cincinnati
like what the heck are y'all doing with Why y'all
don't want to pay anybody?
Speaker 10 (40:18):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (40:18):
Terry McLaurin, I don't see getting traded. Mike could definitely
is not getting traded. But yeah, if I have to
pick anybody's trade, Hendrickson.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Give me your sneaky team this year.
Speaker 9 (40:30):
The Raiders. The Raiders. He Carroll, he's a ten win coach.
It's just it's just what he does. It's some people
you just like, they just this is what they do.
It may not be glamorous or whatever, but this is
just what they do. You just look up. It's like, man,
he averaged a double double again, how the heck is
he doing this? That's just that's Pete carries one of
(40:51):
them guys with ten wins. He just he knows how
to win. He has a formula. He runs the ball,
physical run game. He had Marshall Lynn. You go get
Ashton jim t because this is my style, this is
what I want to do. You go out and get
a quarterback that you know can play. That's a vet
that you don't have to teach him. He's won some games,
(41:12):
made the playoffs. Gino Smith, you already got brought Bowers.
You go draft offensive lineman so you can run the
ball and be physical.
Speaker 10 (41:21):
You got your.
Speaker 9 (41:22):
Receivers that could take the top off the defense. Max
Crosby's on the other side. I know with John Spotech
the GM. I was with him in Tampa. I know
his philosophy and how he builds teams. I just believe
that this team is going to shock a lot of
people with the things they can do, but the formula
they have, Pete Carroll's just a winner. And in that
(41:43):
city in Vegas, Pete Carroll fits that perfect. He recruited
me when he was at USC, so I've seen how
he can handle big cities and how he can handle
the lights. And we've seen it in Seattle, going to
two Super Bowls, going to multiple MC championship, winning a
super Bowl. This is just who Pete Carroll is, and
(42:04):
I know what he can do, and I believe that
they're going to be a team that sneaks up on
a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Oklahoma paid better than USC.
Speaker 9 (42:15):
Hey, listen, let me tell you something. I'm in the
clear now. I didn't get anything. But I tell people
all the time. I tell people that's all the time.
Y'all can't do nothing to me now if I'm not
one of the people that's gonna get on here and say, hey, no,
I would to took nothing. Please all right, Hey, hey, hey,
I'm from south side Oklahoma City. We ain't had much.
(42:39):
I needed all I could get, but I didn't get nothing.
So you know whatever, Oh you was just oh you hey.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I don't blame players getting money. You know, getting a
hand down, but you can do it.
Speaker 9 (42:54):
Yeah at this man, listen, college is you go for
the reasons you go, you know back then and everything
has changed. I go talk to these teams, these guys
that owe you these income and recruits. I've talked to
the team that's there now and when I was there.
I tell people the times of going to a school
because you grew up loving the school or the tradition
(43:15):
or this is o you. I know them days over with,
so I'm not one of the people they bring you
in and I go talk.
Speaker 10 (43:20):
To a team like we have a standard, we have it,
this and.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
This and this.
Speaker 9 (43:25):
That's not me, I say, I know the reasons for
people going to different schools are different now, but if
you're going to be here, be here.
Speaker 10 (43:37):
Don't have your mind somewhere else.
Speaker 9 (43:39):
Find whatever reason it is you're here, and do it
for that at this school.
Speaker 10 (43:44):
And then I go on to.
Speaker 9 (43:45):
The tradition of oe you if you're gonna wear these
colors while you're here, at least uphold what we are
standard is while you're here. If you want to leave
after that, then go, that's fine. If you don't want
to be here, you don't have to be here, but
why you're here uphold this standard that this school has
always had. So that's kind of my message to the
new generation because I know it's different reasons why kids
(44:07):
are going there.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
So you gave you a better deal than the US. Seriously,
I wish hey keep killing it there on NFL Network.
Great to have you on. We appreciate your time.
Speaker 10 (44:22):
Hey, I appreciate you. I hav me any time.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
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