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August 28, 2025 41 mins

Dan revisits the latest on the conflict of interest for Tom Brady as he navigates being a broadcaster and part-owner of the Las Vegas Raiders. And longtime college football broadcaster Chris Fowler stops by to reminisce about his time on “College Game Day” and provide a preview of this weekend’s action.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Thursday, Dan and the Dan Huts Dan Patrick Show.
A lot of football coming up tonight Chris Bowler, the
original host of College Game Day. We'll talk to Chris
of course, the final game day appearance for Coach Corso
with Ohio State and Texas on Saturday. Your phone calls
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(00:28):
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
All right, so, poll.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Question, let's clean up the first hour seat and what
are we going to go with an hour two?

Speaker 4 (00:51):
It's a controversial poll question right here. We've got up
there right now. The first day of fall is September one,
the first day of college football, or September twenty second.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Obviously it's September first. It'll need an autumn, autumnal solstice
or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I don't know what this says about our audience.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, but right now, with thirty nine percent of the vote,
September twenty second is winning. Okay, then there's a two
way split right down the middle tie between September first
and the first day of college football. I'm just saying,
if I'm choosing my group of friends from these results, yeah,
there's thirty nine percent that I'm leaving out.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Those are the books smart people. Okay, I know exactly
by the rule. We got it, we got it, yes, Tod.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Is it the BookSmart people? Or is there a portion
of the audience that just doesn't want to let go
of somewhere and you want those extra few weeks and
they can't accept that all of a sudden September first,
we're calling it the end of summer break and sun
and beaches and vacations, all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well, it's two degrees this morning.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
I know, just psychologically, but sometimes you know, after Labor Day,
they could be all a sudden. You get one of
those hot days in earlier mid September, you know, before
it actually stays cool for the rest of the next
several months. I'm just wondering if that's a psychological thing.
I need to hold onto summer to the last possible day.
Don't rush it.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
I like to get into fall sooner. Yeah, more fall
the better. Yeah for me. Yeah, Paul, I'd.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
Be in favor of canceling the last five days of
August to get us to September faster, though I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
How you do that.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
Yeah, but people who love summer. If you bump a
fall up to September first, and we bump summer up
to June first, they get three more weeks of summer.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I'm fine with that problem solved.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
What if we just made September have thirty five days
now we're talking, we just say September actually goes to
the thirty fifth.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
And then we're taking five off of August.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
And yeah, August only goes to yeah, what the twenty
fifth thing? Okay, whatever, twenty sixth Maybe.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Who do we propose this to? I got a guy,
I know, maybe President Trump.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Everybody's calling for everybody says they want it. We could ask.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
It's funny, this could get tracks the next thing, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
This is exactly the kind of thing they get done
like that. The Brady rules are basically done. The NFL
will allow Tom Brady, the Fox Sports analyst and Las
Vegas Raiders minority owner, to take part in production meetings
with coaches and teams this season. This is according to

(03:25):
The Athletic. Brady's first year as a broadcaster, he was
banned from the information gathering sessions for just about the
whole season, and the rules were put in place due
to his ownership stake. The NFL relented for the Super Bowl.
Brady's play by play partner Kevin Burkhardt and other crew

(03:45):
members would inform Brady of what was said in these meetings.
The sessions with coaches and players can reveal nuggets that
can be used during the broadcast. Sometimes they take place
over zoom, sometimes in person. He is still not allowed
to go to team practices. Fox and the NFL declined comment.

(04:09):
He shouldn't be in these production meetings. You're a minority
owner of the Raiders. Now, whether he was still involved
with a team that was involved in the two biggest
cheating scandals of all time? Correct, it was involved in Well,

(04:30):
his team was involved in Spygate, there was deflate Gate.
He shouldn't be in these meetings. It's just pick one
or other the other The NFL wants Tom to be
there doing the games. I get that, but you know,
now you're kind of changing the rules just so Tom
can go into these meetings, and he does need to
be in these meetings. So if you want to be
a broadcaster, be a broadcaster, go into those meetings, be professional,

(04:53):
and they're going to treat you as such a professional.
But I mean, if I'm a coach and I play
the Raiders at some point this season, and I don't
know how many times this would happen, do it? I mean,
how forthcoming do you want to be here? Tom can
ask you anything you want now you don't have to
answer that. But I don't know. Somebody's uh, this guy's

(05:16):
got a banged up ankle, probably be that way all
season long, or this guy you know, can't count on him.
It feels like you know he's or man, he's not
very good at the end of season. Who knows what
information comes out. I just think you got to be
fair to being either a minority owner who is very

(05:37):
active from what I'm told, or you're gonna be a
broadcaster and keep this in mind, how competitive Tom is.
I don't think this is like a summer or you know,
vacation for Tom where I'm I'm going to be a
broadcaster for a little while. He's gonna want to be great,
and you're gonna want to get information. He wants to

(05:58):
get somebody who's going to tell him something. Then he's
going to be oh, do you hear what Tom said?
Or do you hear what Tom found out? And he
doesn't need these nuggets. I mean Tom is learning TV.
He knows football. There's a big difference. They're guys who
aren't great football players who were really good analysts because

(06:19):
they understand TV as well. And Tom is understanding that.
And I think if you want to be successful, be
in the meetings, go to a practice. I mean that's
why collins Worth is the best in the business. He's there,
He's going to the practices. He knows who these players are.
Now there are some analysts. The further you get away,

(06:41):
the less you know. When you were playing in your
couple of years removed, you know who these players are.
You get five, seven, ten years away and you're like
fifty seven thirty two. It's not what you should be doing.
But if Tom's going to do it, I think you
got to say to Tom, decide what you want to do.
But the NFL all is going to bend the rules

(07:01):
here because they want Tom to be part of the
Fox broadcast. I understand that. I don't think it's I
don't think it's right because he's sort of going to
the meetings or he's sort of involved in the game,
but he can't go to the practices. But then everybody
who's there is going to tell him everything that went on,
So really he's kind of there by proxy.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
Point, And is it fair to Fox as an organization
if Tom walks in to talk to a franchise and
they're less than forthcoming because they're concerned about this. Now
Fox suffers by not getting information to use on game day. Imagine.
Imagine Brady was still playing with the Patriots and he
was doing a sit down production meeting with blank announcer
who had a piece of the New York Jets. You

(07:44):
think he's going to hold back a little extra. Of
course he is because the competitor and he wouldn't trust
that medium. Yes, this is the roles are reversed.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yes, I agree, it's a great point.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
If Peyton Manning was part owner of the Broncos or
the Colts and he's going in there, Is Tom going
to share information with him?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Maybe not?

Speaker 7 (08:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (08:07):
Point And this goes back though, to the NFL being
at fault for allowing this to happen. You know, you
don't even need a rule in place that says you
can't be an announcer and an owner. There probably is one,
but it's so obvious that you shouldn't have allowed it
to be done. But they wanted Brady involved in everything
his brand with their brands.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah well okayfel.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Who knew about the commissioner's exemplate? Like you never know,
they could be like, you know what, we were going
to change the rule here, okay, yeah see see.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Like that's what drives me crazy though, is that there's
there are rules in place for a reason.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Until they don't need to be in place.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Well, no, they do still need to be in place,
we just don't want them in place anymore.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yes, well for Tom correct, Yeah, we don't want that
pesky thing in place. But if and you're not going
to have somebody else to do that.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
I don't know what Jerry Jones doing Eagles games, I
actually do.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
I think I think I would tune into that.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Third and seven, which is why I didn't take this again?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, what if Fox hired Jerry Jones and said, we
want you to be an analyst for a couple of games,
but we need you to go to the production meetings,
and with the NFL allowed Jerry Jones to go in
there to the Eagles production.

Speaker 8 (09:27):
Meetings, They've set precedent with Brady, so Jerry would be
allowed to do that, right, Jered may take that John
more airtime. Yes, Marvin, I'm looking at the Raiders schedule.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
What's going to happen if Tom Brady has this game,
it's the Raiders at the Commanders on Fox.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well, he has the Commanders in the Giants game first week,
I believe correct, let me check. I think that might
be his first game, and then you're going to have
the Commanders against the Raiders later in the season. It's
just you're kind of screaming out, you know, conflict of
interest here. But they've allowed him to do it, so great, congratulations.

(10:12):
Now go learn some things there, give us some nuggets there. Yes, Pauline,
he's on the Commission's not exempted, not exactly. He's not
exact from anything. A couple of phone calls in here,
we'll talk to Chris Fowler in about ten minutes from now.
This is the fifth anniversary of the Fritzy meltdown in
the drive through of a bagel chain store. They did
not have onion bagels, and they did not have tuna

(10:35):
fish as well, And it was fifteen minutes before closing time,
and Todd had a meltdown and we had a listener
who just sent in onion bagels and Todd is wasn't
sure because he didn't know if these were tainted bagels.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
But I said go ahead, Todd, I said, Todd, I'll
eat half a bagel. Haw's that a period of time has.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Passed since a number of us, including my I've partaken
and I think we're okay.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Okay, is there anything else you'd like to add?

Speaker 5 (11:05):
Just thanks to Jet. That was a very thoughtful thing,
especially on the anniversary. This guy gets it and that.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Was kind all right. Michael in South Bend him Michael.

Speaker 9 (11:15):
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I just
want to comment about the bagel situation. I have a
wife who's about thirty two weeks pregnant. That reminds me
of when I get to McDonald's at ten oh one
am and they stop serving breakfast and I have to
hear about it the rest.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
Of the day.

Speaker 9 (11:31):
But also wanted to comment about you guys coming in
for the USC game this South. Then wanted to see
you guys were doing a live audience. If you had
a place to do the show. A recommendation of mine
would be Auror's Irish Pub right across from the stadium.
My wife will be one week out from her due dates,
so her last request would be come.

Speaker 7 (11:52):
And see you guys live.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I could always visit her in the delivery room.

Speaker 9 (11:56):
Oh, Dan, we'd welcome that. We would like I'd let
you up before my parents.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
I don't know where we're going to be. We're going
to be outside the stadium. We're still working on this
and we'll let you know. If we can have an audience.
We have to get security, like, there's a lot more
that goes into it. It's not just we show up
and come out and you can rage. We want to
make sure that it's a little bit organized here. But
thank you, Michael, and whatever your wife needs, supply it.

(12:28):
Keith and Charlotte. Hike, Keith, what's on your mind?

Speaker 10 (12:32):
Hey Dan, thanks for calling me back. Yep, Hey, so
I know that we are talking a little bit about
stars aligning and equinoxas. And I heard this little tidbit
about a week ago, and I have some hope for
the Panthers now this season. I'm hoping that this will
come through. So in two thousand and two, Panthers have

(12:52):
a losing record, Ohio State Winston National Championship, Jennifer Lopez
files were divorced. Two thousand and three, Panthers.

Speaker 11 (12:59):
Go to a super Bowl.

Speaker 10 (13:01):
Twenty fourteen, Panthers have a losing record Ohio State, Wincinnati,
Jennifer Lopez filed for divorce. Twenty fifteen. Can't just go
to the super Bowl twenty twenty two? Are Panthers have
a losing record Ohio State Wincinnati and Jennifer Lopez files
for divorce.

Speaker 7 (13:19):
The Cancers go.

Speaker 11 (13:20):
To the Super Bowl.

Speaker 10 (13:21):
I say, put your money down now, Dan.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I love that, Keith. I'm going to bring that up
on the Gambling podcast. I'm sure Shyan Irving he'll put
some money down on that. I don't know if it's
that big a deal that j Lo files for divorce,
because that seems to be a common occur, something less common. Yes, yes,
that's happened quite a few times, have a little more
teeth to it. Yeah, she's she's piled through a few

(13:47):
husbands there.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yes, Tom, I thought.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
Numeral he was interesting. He took back to a completely
other level.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I love that. That's awesome. Andrew and Pittsburgh, Hi Andrew,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 7 (13:58):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Dan?

Speaker 12 (13:58):
Just calling in the wake of the gold digging patent
filed by Bill and his girlfriend. The entire thing will
likely end poorly for Bill, but I can't help but
field that thirty for thirty is going to be absolute fire.
So I got a pitch for you.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Okay, what if I told you.

Speaker 12 (14:14):
You could strike gold on a seven forty seven, that
even goats could become domesticated and the Panthers weren't the
only kitty that Bill was pounding ESPN thirty for thirty two.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well no, no, no, no, Andrew, No no, Well yeah can't.
I can't get loose and turned. That's over the line. Yes,
it is over the line.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yes, yeah, Family show.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, Bill being the goat can be domesticated.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
That's that's what he meant.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
The other line. I don't need to explain that I
did watch the thirty for thirty on SMU Football again
last night. They're just they were so breezen. They and
and the fact that Eric Dickerson gets that gold trans
am from Texas A and M and then doesn't have
to give it back. He just kept it and went

(15:05):
to SMU because Texas A and M can't report that, hey,
we gave him that trans am. Just what went on
in that conference? Oh my goodness, and Ron Meyer that
you know, that's one of those. Hey, I gotta get
I got to get out of town here. I'm going

(15:26):
to go to the Patriots. Hey, that's how hot it
is right now. I got to get out of here.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
And all of a.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Sudden, and look, they were a really good team, really
good team. But yeah, have Eric Dickerson, Craig James, the quarterback,
Lance mcilhoney.

Speaker 7 (15:43):
I think yep.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
He was a artist, a magician and a small guy.
But you're just watching this and they talked about the
oil boom and so much money and boosters and I mean,
what has really changed? You know, boosters they want their
team to be good. What's it going to take? And

(16:04):
the main booster at SMU, I don't think they got
him on camera to talk. He was like, I had
nothing to say about it. He didn't want to be involved.
I guess in the thirty for thirty but you're watching
and Eric Dickerson in that running style. One of his
teammates said, you could put like a drink on his
helmet and he wouldn't spill a drop because he ran

(16:25):
so upright. And Craig James. I remember Craig James telling
me a story that his brother would bet people when
Craig was going to run the hundred yard dash in
high school because he was usually the only white guy,
and he would be betting people that Craig was going
to win, and then Craig would win because he was

(16:46):
a track star. You know, I had track speed there.
But SMU man, Yeah, Paully.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
One of the best parts about the documentary is one
of the ways they got caught. They were paying players
with cash and the envelopes SMU Athletic Department letterhead not
hard to trace it back.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
But everything is on the up and up now in
college football. Yes, Marvin right, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yes, come on, no conference realignment, Yes and Io, Yes, let's.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Take a break here. Chris Bowler will join us on
loan for the Mothership. More of your phone calls as well,
We're back after this Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2 (18:32):
We'll get to your phone calls coming out. Chris Fowler,
busy man, ESPN college football tennis host commentator. He'll be
on the call Saturday night. It'll be LSU at number
four Clemson, Herbie you'll be there, Holly Row, Molly McGrath.
And then week two you got Michigan at number eighteen, Oklahoma.
Also part of the US Open broadcast. ESPN airs all

(18:56):
fifteen days of the US Open on all of its networks.
Got the women's singles final Saturday and the men's singles
finals Sunday. That'll be the seventh on ABC and ESPN.
Deport this good to see it. Chris, how are you, bud?

Speaker 7 (19:11):
Thanks for the extended promo. Hope, that wasn't part of
the deal getting me on.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
It was.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
You're very generous.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
It was the pr machine at ESPN said we got
two plugs for Chris.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
I go okay, So I meant to text you palitic
congratulations your team's triumph and celebrity family feud. I guess
you watched it last month, but it was it was
a sturry performance. You guys showed your very in tune
with the people, very in tune with the people Dan.
So it's good.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
We had fun, but it's one of those that you say, yeah,
let's do it. And then I got on stage and
all of a sudden, Steve Harvey comes out. I got
my Dan nametag and I go, oh, bleep, what am
I doing here?

Speaker 3 (19:52):
I just kept thinking something's going.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Viral, and when it goes viral, it's usually bad, and
thankfully it did not, but there was some trepidation for
the wrong time to have trepidation when you're on stage
with Steve Harvey.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
Freeze out there. I think I'd choked. If you're going
to hit the buzzer and come up with something, that
crazy person, you.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Did well well.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
We went through rehearsal. I got yelled at because I
screwed up. You're not allowed to have your hand up
and you have to have your hand down, and I
got it. It was a false start. And then they go hey, no,
and I go all right, and then you weren't allowed
to talk to each other. Somebody's in the audience and
they're saying, hey, no talking, you can't talk. We were

(20:34):
I thought we were going to get you know, we were.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
We were.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Take me back to game day now, I'm going to
go off memory here. When I was at the Mothership,
I remember the thought of you guys going out to
a football game was met with some great hesitation, like
is anybody going to show up? Like why would we
do that? You know, it's fine here into they don't
need to be out there. Who's going to show up?

(21:03):
And I just remember that there were a couple of
members of management saying that, And I thought, if you
have a camera, people will show up. If there's a camera,
people want to be on TV. That It was the
only thing I said to John Walsh, our boss. I said,
if you got cameras, kids will show up.

Speaker 7 (21:22):
What kind of had three of them? I think they
actually had three of them. That that, you know, well,
they had to spend some money. I think it was
the grand total of something like fifty grand to take
the show on the road, which is like that's about
a segment's worth of today's costs. No, we had to
convince folks. We've done it at bowl games, but never
on a campus. Finally had four to say noted any
one versus two in November in nineteen ninety three, and
it was a game worthy. They thought of getting us

(21:43):
out on the road and and you know, we didn't
know what we were doing. We didn't have to make
it and we were pretty clueless where it was indoors
at the Hall of Fame and people are kind of
wandering by, let me check out the Heisman's Wait a minute,
what's going on over there? And they didn't know exactly
what we were doing, but it was evident, like from
that very first show, Dan that hey, you know, you're right,

(22:04):
there's cameras, there's people, We're on the campus and we're
onto something. And next year we went on the road
more and more, and after that every.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Week, when did you know that, all of a sudden,
this is clicking with America.

Speaker 7 (22:17):
Game Day on the road shows. Yeah, I mean there
were signs the first time. I mean, Lee Courser came
out of the pep rally and Notre Dame on Friday
night and he had picked Florida to say it all week,
you know, the alma mater, and they were the favorite,
and he said, I changed my pick. We had just
seen Sturre out of Regis or somebody was in there
doing their thing, and Lee saw so much spirit had
notreed inme that immediately wanted to change his pick. And

(22:39):
which is funny, you know, it was Craig James was there,
you know, the pony was doing this thing, and and
Lew Holtz. They won the game, and he made a
b line for our set, which was just down the
hall from his office, and just jumped up on the set.
Of course, so jumped up trying to give him his microphone.
Like I said, it was pretty raw back then, but
we knew we had something. And then you know, a

(23:01):
year after year, you know, they began to draw bigger
crowds and campuses wanted to outdo the other one and
break the record. And it was wild.

Speaker 15 (23:10):
It was.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
It was fun from the morning. The postgame shows were
a blast. We'd just be sitting outside of the stadium
and the students would spill out and run to the set.
Kind of though, those were the days when it was
it was simpler, shorter, smaller, but also very raw.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Your first memory or first thing it comes to mind
with Lee Corso back in the embryonic stages of college,
game day.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
I was thinking the other day I was doing a
show with Lee. Wisconsin had blown a game, something had
happened late in the game, coach's decision. And I'm the
only one on the desk with Lee at that year,
and he says, Barry Alvarez, the coach at the time,
should walk into the locker room, stand in front of
his team and resign immediately. He should quit. I mean,

(23:57):
it looks a curse to me. I'm the only one
here like this. I have to say something about that.
There is no Craig James wasn't on the show. That
Dino wasn't there. No one was there but me. You
have to say something like, lead, you're not serious. Nothing
I say as serious. But so he was kidding. But
I had to be the only one there to check

(24:18):
him then. Now there's about seven guys on game day
to check him. But he in the early days, he
would say stuff. Well before he became like the lovable
grandpa figure that everybody smiles when they see, he would
say stuff that would kiss off players, coaches, fans that
you know. He was a polarizing guy and that helped

(24:40):
spark things, helped get eyeballs and increase on the show
and he and Craig would go at it, and then
later Kirk came on and they would go at it.
And that was the early years of Game Day. It
was kind of out. He was like a hot take
guy before that existed, right, But he did it, you know,
with taste.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
And then the headgear, yes, and I mean that's instant.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
I mean when the minute he puts on, you know,
Brutus buckeye head is sort of this it's a nut
and I think back in the day it was I
don't know if it was in mint condition when he
got it. It was kind of beat up, but he
put this thing on. It was a tense negotiation with
Ohio State to get them to give up Brutus's head.
The story is part of Game Day mythology. But kirkirb
Street's wife, Allison, had been a cheerleader Ohio State. They

(25:23):
said no, sorry, but no. Later in the week, are
you sure be pushed? And they said, okay, fine, we'll
do it and we'll see how this goes. And the
minute he puts it on, I mean, it's silly looking,
but you knew, oh wow, suit tied Brutus head and
we're onto something, and then every other school saw the
magic of that, and then they were most of we're

(25:45):
willing to cooperate. Now they all cooperate, of course, but yeah,
that was it was instant. We knew we were onto something.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Best celebrity picker that you had, ooh, that's.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
Tough, because these celebrities, especially the comedians, wanted to come
play with Leek orso. I mean, that was the reason.
I think while they came on the show, the big
segment at the end, you know, Bill Murray, Will Ferrell,
Vince Vaughn, me, some of the funniest people on the
planet wanted to come sit and play off of him
and have him say not so fast. My friend Bill
Murray was was on you know, well, he was unhinged.

(26:15):
He was a Clemson fan. They were playing Florida State.
Lee put on the seminole stuff. We had a little
mound of dirt in front of the set so he
could throw a spear in the ground like chief Officiola.
Bill Murray basically undid that whole plant like he knocked
him to the ground in an atomic knee drop on him.
Lee wasn't young then, Okay, he's ninety now he wasn't

(26:37):
young then, and Bill would grab the spear and he
threw it. This is a real this had a real
like spear tip lif This wasn't a prop He threw
the thing over the heads of these people who were
gathered by this set, the home Depot guests, I guess,
and it landed on this demo field of it harmlessly thanked.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
God.

Speaker 7 (26:57):
I mean, somebody could have been in pain. I just
think about that. Alice Cooper. Uh, all these characters that
you would think would have nothing to do with the
sport and certainly wouldn't be in the same frame as
Lee Corso. But he said, with these guys, I just
have beautiful memories of that.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
What about the musket at West Virginia?

Speaker 7 (27:17):
What about all the firearms? I mean in the Big twelve,
every school has a firearm involved in it. And people think,
you know, oh, you guys were soft. You're oh, you're
reacting like it's a you know, it's a cannon in
your head well, as you know, there's a lot of
microphones around the set, all these effects microphones that go
into your headset. The headsets are cranked up really loud

(27:41):
so you can block out the noise and you can
hear yourself back in those days, I think we had
we had headsets before we got earpieces, but the earpieces
are air tight too, so you can't hear anything else.
When he shot the damn guns, I mean, it was
beyond definitely, like you just couldn't sit there and not
flinch your duck or something.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Chris Fawler joining us, and he's got Saturday night it'll
be number nine, LSU at number four Clemson and also
the US Open State of Tennis right now.

Speaker 7 (28:14):
At the top of the men's game, it's compelling as ever.
I mean, you've got two guys that jumped into the
immediate aftermath of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic and the colors
South for Asmonic Center, and they've got this rivalry already.
They're pushing each other where see a tennis we've maybe
never seen played before. And that's saying something given the
fact that those three giants elevated the game so much.
So I think the men's game at the top is compelling.

(28:37):
Got to have some guys join them, got to have
some guys show they can compete with these two. So
it's not predictable every fin I mean, most people would
expect those guys who are going to play again in
New York as they did at Wimblin and Paris. But
you want other guys to compete and join the party.
Women's tennis is wide open. It's the opposite. There is
no dominant player at the top. It's a free for all.
A different player wins every major. It seems all eyes

(29:01):
on Coco goff here in New York. But if you
like unpredictability, and I think some of these major finals
have been the least predictable events in sports, you know,
picking one hundred to one shots, eighty to one shots
winning Wimbledon on the women's side every year. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
If I said you could change one thing in college football,
what would it be.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
I wouldn't turn back the clock. I know we talked
about nil and portal. I'm not one of those guys
that sits around winding about the modern realities. I'm uncomfortable
with certain parts of it. You know, players are they
finish the season, or they don't even finish the season.
There are teams in a bowl game, they're looking for
the next spot. They go play spring ball somewhere. They
don't like that. They transfer again in the summer, and
they're at another campus, probably taking another bag of money

(29:47):
from another school in the fall. That I don't like.
I mean, you can't have the chaos of unrestricted free
agency with multiple windows during the year. When you can
do it, there needs to be some order. I'd like
to see that cleaned up. But this isn't going away,
And I think it's kind of fun that you get
into a new season some of these teams. Belichick's got
what like seventy new guys. In North Carolina, they having

(30:09):
a completely new team. I mean, that's kind of interesting
to see how they're gonna gel. So I try not
to whine about the unintended consequences of reform, which is
what we're dealing with. I think there's going to be
some order restored. I like the new playoff format. I
don't want to see it expands. I'm kind of good
work where we are right now.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
You got North Carolina with a standalone game on Monday
Night with Belichick, But I think we could tune in
and watch Don at your alma mater because he had
his son there, and he had Travis Hunter and Dion's
good TV.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Bill. Belichick's not good TV.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
No most conferences for good TV, but I like it's weird.
I would tune into Colorado and I knew I would
see his son, and I would see Travis, and I'd
see Dion and the atmosphere and you know, just felt
like Dion was an entertainer. Bill's not an enter Now
it comes down to is his team any good? You're like,
I'll tune in to go Okay, does he have a

(31:06):
cutoff Carolina Blue hoodie?

Speaker 3 (31:08):
On? Okay? He does? All right?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Now, let me see if you know he can coach
college football.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
But don't you think when he said the Patriots, I
mean people would watch them because they wanted to see
them lose. It didn't happen that often. But I think
people will want to see how his team looks. And
I think some people want him to succeed and some
people want him to fail. And so there's a there's
a compelling tune in reason, at least early in the season,
they're expecting big ratings for that Labor Day night games.

(31:33):
You see you in Carolina, there are a lot of
curiosity watchers. I think that look, no one knows how
that team's gonna gel. I think they should be well coached,
but in the ACC it's pretty balanced. Games come down
to the finish. Can Belichick make a difference on Saturdays?
Can he make a difference with adjustments? Can they win
close games? If they can, they can be in the

(31:55):
mix in the conference. They're not going to be the
most talented team. That's Clemson and then Miami. But you know,
I'm interested to see how they do overall, not just
Monday Night.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
But you think people tune in to see him fail?
Were they tuning in to see Dion in a similar
situation of failing or succeeding?

Speaker 7 (32:14):
Some were? I mean, I think he captured imagination of
a lot of people weren't necessarily huge college football fans.
And that happened right the minute he got to Colorado.
I mean, I was at the spring games for a year.
Fifty thousand people in a snowstorm were watching a spring scrimmage.
They came into town to watch it. These were not
all locals, and I think you saw massive TV ratings.
Even when Colorado began to lose and the story began

(32:35):
to change and shift from hey Dan's doing some magic
to hey, it's a reality check, they still watched. I mean,
and they still do watch, So yeah, I'm going to
be interested to see how they do Friday night. I'll
beating Columbus Tomorrow night. There's a big Courso luncheon there,
which will be a cool event, and then I'll go
watch the Buffs that night and see how they look
against Georgia Tech. They're underdogs in the first game. Nobody's

(32:57):
expecting them to do anything this year. But I think
that they got a ship on their shoulder.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
But I wonder about that though. Has the not well
the novelty wear off there of with Dion there.

Speaker 7 (33:09):
It has worn off.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I think.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
I mean, you've no more to Travis Hunter, Shudor's gone.
I think you've got You've got a team of talented players.
I mean, they're they're better than people think. They're not
going to be tenth in the Big twelve in my opinion,
but I'm always going to be watching. And he's just
a compelling figure. Dan the way he dealt with cancer
this summer and was so open and transparent and vulnerable.
I'm not a lot of coaches sit there and talk about,

(33:30):
you know, having a having a cat there, having a
portage on the sidelines because they need I mean it's
it's refreshing. His messaging his team, if you're around him,
is really old school and valuable stuff. I think he's
making differences in their lives. So I'm a fan for sure.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Great to talk to you, save travels, have fun Saturday
night LSU and Clemson, and then part of the ESPN's
coverage of the US Open. My best of the family
is always Chris, Thank you, my pleasure. Dan Chris Mallenes
in college football and tennis host. Oh yeah, Chris been
there a long long time, a long time, and everything

(34:10):
he did he made it better, which is a true
testament of talent. But as far as being prepared, he
has prepared. Him and Bob Lee are the two most
prepared people I ever work with at the Mothership. Like
they they made me better because you had to be.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
It's like when I went to the Olympics and I thought, God,
I'm studying and then all of a sudden, you know,
you run into Costas or you know somebody else who
you know one of the hosts, and you're like, damn,
wait is.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
That your notebook? Yeah? I got a couple of them.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
What And then you're thinking just people who were overly
prepared it just in case, and they certainly have them.
We're going to take a break. Phone calls coming up.
We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best
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(35:06):
app search FSR to listen live.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Meet Friday tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Dylan, our resident chef, is already preparing for tomorrow's dish,
and we are putting brisket on the trigger twelve hours,
twelve hours almost and then I said, okay, but shouldn't
it be twenty four hours?

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Oh boy? But no, he says.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Now the internetters they're going after him because he is
maybe not following all the rules of when you want
to put brisket on the grill. And then he's going
to sleep here tonight because he says that he has
to be here all night when it's going to be
on the grill. So that's Meet Friday tomorrow, Yes, Paul, and.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
The smoking community can be quite terse on social media
if you use.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Spray or don't use and there like vinegars.

Speaker 6 (36:01):
Vinegars and injectionple juice, apple juice timing slow and low.
If you open the canister to take a picture. You're
not cooking.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Okay, Well, he's I guess going to bring on all
the haters because he's going to get he's.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Readying his brisket.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
We're going to have a ceremonial parade to the brisket,
to the grill when he puts the brisket on it
coming up here and at the top of the hour,
we'll walk with him as he puts it on the grill.
Jeff and Milwaukee, Hi, Jeff, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 16 (36:38):
Good morning? You guys enjoyed the bagels?

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Oh you sent the bagels?

Speaker 7 (36:43):
I did?

Speaker 16 (36:43):
Jeff BURRELLI from Milwaukee sent in the bagels to the
as Seaton would put it most fascinating person on the planet.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Possibly well the fifth year anniversary of Todd melting down
with the no onion bagel and no tuna fish. But
you did send in thirteen onion bagels with shmear I
think on there as well, So thank you. That's very
nice of you. Fritzy thought it was maybe a suspicious
package and he wasn't going to have any, but then

(37:14):
he smelled the onion bagel and a caved in quick.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yes, but thank you, very nice of you.

Speaker 16 (37:18):
Jeff, That's exactly how I thought it would go. I've
listened since you guys were first on in Madison, when
your first day in LA and what have you, so
exactly how I thought it would go. And you didn't
play the clip that's eight minutes long. But he did
get another five minute rants out of thanks me while

(37:42):
I was on the hold, and I'm trying to tell him,
like I was surprised when I ordered this week that
one national chain that he brated the young young child cashier,
they actually don't have onion bagels. And I'm trying to
tell him how surprised I was, like cutting me off
to do it, like he's telling me to cut it

(38:03):
in half and then cutting it in half.

Speaker 13 (38:05):
It was.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
All right, well, thank you, Jeff. Is the place you
went to. They don't have onion bagels on the menu.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
As far as I know they do. They just didn't
have that day without giving out the unless they changed
something recently.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah, we don't need what Paul.

Speaker 6 (38:20):
That differs with the initial story from five years ago.
The IT team remembers that Todd was told whilst in
the drive through that they are no longer on the menu,
and he was expecting this sixteen year old girl to
call up corporate and change the direction of the franchise
in real time.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
That makes it look even worse.

Speaker 7 (38:38):
I think.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
I think the situation was it was it was they
were still making onion bagels.

Speaker 7 (38:41):
They ran out on you.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
It was the tuna that they decided that they're gonna
They're no longer having tuna is something that you can
put on the bagel.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
The Cameron in Indiana, Hi Cameron, what's on your mind?

Speaker 7 (38:50):
We're moving on.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
It sounds like no Todd cut it in half.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
You cut the bagel in half and then half the quarters.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Hey, Cam, what's on your mind? Yeah?

Speaker 11 (39:01):
So hey, I got her as our controversial pie in
the face. But for you guys, going back to preseason,
I will take this season. I will take the record
field goal to be broken. So if you take the
pie in the face, but you'll say it won't.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Be so you're saying that somebody will set the all
time field goal record.

Speaker 11 (39:25):
Yep, this season it'll be broken.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Okay, how many yarns?

Speaker 11 (39:31):
Let's go sixty seven, sixty.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Eight and that's not that long anymore.

Speaker 6 (39:37):
But yes, Paulie, justin Tucker, I think is still the
record holder with sixty six yards.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
He won't be breaking it this year.

Speaker 7 (39:44):
No, you will not.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL wants someone to
break it.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yes, does anybody want a piece of Cameron that we
will have an all time record field goal?

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah, I'm with you. I think everybody's with you, Cameron.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
I think it's become commonplace that these guys are kicking
it close to seventy yards. You just have to get
into that situation in the game where your coach is
going to allow you to kick a seventy yard field goal,
or they may need a seventy yard field goal end
of the first half or end of the game. But
thank you Cam for the phone call. Brad in Texas, Hi, Brad.

Speaker 12 (40:21):
D maybe did not serve Agels.

Speaker 11 (40:26):
Comment the part of the face.

Speaker 13 (40:28):
Can't believe you'll.

Speaker 15 (40:29):
Want to let the first y'all to hook with the engagement.
That's that's whatever. Well, if Stanto, how any tacos are
in Texas at Ohio State?

Speaker 12 (40:39):
I got Texas by seven at least.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
All right on a good connection there, Brad. But thank
you for the phone call. He's got the Longhorns by seven.
Ohio state's favored by one and a half. Anybody want
a piece of brad that he's got Texas by at
least seven.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Anybody, anybody holy considering, considering.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
It's a big line. I know, I'll take it for fun.
Well you're getting one and a half. Yeah, he says
they're winning by seven. Day final hour on the way.
So we've had a Manning finished fourth, third, and second
in the Heisman race.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Uh so arch Archie Eli and pate so arch He
could be the first to grab a Heisman. Final hour
on this Thursday, right after this
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