August 29, 2025 • 51 mins
FOX College Football Analyst Brady Quinn says Green Bay may now rival Philadelphia atop the NFC and offers advice for Arch Manning. ESPN NFL Nation Cowboys reporter Todd Archer breaks down how the shocking Micah Parsons trade came together and notes that Jerry Jones insists it was a collective decision. ESPN NFL Nation Packers reporter Rob Demovsky shares when Green Bay's pursuit of Parsons began and suggests that this may signal a new, more bold era in Green Bay. Former Texas and Pro Bowl QB Vince Young reminisces on winning the 2005 National Championship and previews the Longhorns' season with Arch Manning.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
He's Brady Quinn Fox College Football analyst and part of
the big noon kickoff. They will be in Columbus and
it'll be Texas against Ohio State. We'll talk about that
coming up in a moment. Good to see you again.
With yesterday's news happening in the NFL, did that change
your opinion on which who is the team to beat.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
A little bit?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
I mean, I think the way I look at the
NFC is this probably three or four teams that I
think we legitimately are looking at thinking that they can
win a Super Bowl, Philly being at the top of
the list, but Green Bay was probably one of those teams,
and now it makes them, without a doubt, a contender,
maybe even the biggest contender to the Philadelphia Eagles in
my opinion.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Help me understand, Let's start with Dallas. You're shaking your
head already.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Because Dan, none of it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I know, like a guy you drafted who has been
a generational talent, has done every thing on the field
that you'd hope he would be.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
How do you make any sense of letting him walk?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
And I'm not saying that Kenny Clark won't help the
run defense, or they might not get a couple of
good first round picks, but probably because they're from Green Bay,
probably in the you know, second half, somewhere in the twenties.
It's not like you're getting a top ten pick. And
so I just I really don't see in the short
term how this is going to help them the way
it would if Michael Parsons was on the field for them,
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and even the long term, like let's just say that,
you know, they're in a rebuilding phase, not that they
necessarily are, but in no way, shape or form does
this help Dallas in the short term or long term.
And if I'm a veteran in that locker room in
Dallas and I keep hearing, you know, the phrase last year,
we're all in, and people have kind of questioned some
of that throughout the throughout the years.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Now I'm really questioning it, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Now, I'm really wondering, like what exactly is going on
in Dallas and how does this happen? Because it's not
like Jerry Jones doesn't have the money or the cap
space to do that sort of deal. It was a
good deal, but it wasn't astronomical, something that really blew
things out of the water. In regards to the Dallas
Cowboys being unable to sign him to that deal, they
were able to make it work with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
They've been able to make it work Ceedee Lamb and
other players.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
This wasn't the sort of deal that would completely handicap
them moving forward to their salary caps.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I just didn't understand the lack of leverage there that
Jerry could have created. You're a businessman, create leverage and
maybe prior to the draft you could have said he he's available,
or you could have said in the last couple of weeks,
he's available. Let's get into a bidding war here. Because
to first round two late first round picks and Kenny Clark,
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the fact that Seattle gave up three first round picks
for Jamal Adams, you know, Khalil Mack when he went
to the Bears. The Raiders got a better deal, Like,
it just doesn't make sense with what you got in return.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, by the way, it was Green Bay the only
team that wanted to make a Parson services. That's the
other odd thing. It's like, was there not more teams inquiring?
Was it Green Bay that was your best offer. It's
just shocking. I mean, I think if you look at
it statistically speaking, Micah Parsons is on a run that's
again like in the likes of someone like LT and
the likes of some of the greatest that have ever
done it.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And so you have to.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Think that every single team that is in need of
an edge rusher had reached out and would be willing
to mortgage at least the next few years of the
first round of the draft to have a player like
that and sign him to a long term deal, especially
when he's still in his prime. So look, I don't
know if there's more to the story behind the scenes,
whether that's from Micah's side or Jerry Jones side. It
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feels like that because none of this makes any sense,
and it definitely doesn't from the Dallas Cowboys standpoint, and
I feel bad for their fan base because I feel
like they're being sold a bill of goods and it's
almost as if you can hear Jerry Jones up there
trying to talk everyone into what makes sense for this,
and it it sounds like one of those things where
you you know, have your grandparent. They're getting to a
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point where you're like, okay, okay, Grandma, I'm not sure
I necessarily believe what you're saying right now, but I'm
going to give you a hug and a kiss, and
I'm gonna keep supporting you.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I don't know who's running the NFL Players Associate Players
Association anymore, but why did they allow Jerry Jones to
negotiate in parentheses a contract with Michael Parsons without his
agent there.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I mean, the sheer fact that you don't know who
right now is running the NFLPA kind of lends itself
to how that probably happens. I mean that the NFLPA
obviously has had its issues.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I mean, as far as how things have, how business
is being done, or maybe I should say how some
of the meetings were taking place, especially with some of
the venues they were taking place at. I know Fritzy
frequents those from time to time, but I'll go ahead
and leave that out of it.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I mean, this whole entire saga, whatever you want to
how you want to describe it is quite possibly. I mean,
you're can only describe it as it being something that
happens with Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. I don't
know any other team that does business like this other
than Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys, at least at
this point in time in his career, owning the team
and being the general manager.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Talking to Brady Quinn, Fox College football Analyst, Big noon kickoff,
it'll be there at the Shoe in Columbus and it'll
be number one Texas, number three Ohio State. What advice
would you give arch Manning.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Oh, it's a good question.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I think the first thing I would say, I mean,
he started some games before, but this one's going to
feel different, in part because he's got some new pieces
up in front of him, but it's probably just weathering
the storm. I mean, there's gonna be that initial adrenaline rush,
which I'm sure he felt before the first time he started,
going back to last year, even when he first got
in Verus, Colorado State. You know, you feel that adrenaline
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like run through your body where you get that excitement.
But there's going to be a different feeling in this
one because of the atmosphere. I mean, Bucket Nation is
one of the best toughest fan bases that you're going
to go up against there's one hundred thousand plus in
that place, and it gets loud, and so it's really
about to me whethering the storm early. You know, he's
still very young in his career. It's his first year
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full time now as a starter, so there's going to
be a mistakes made, and it's kind of having that
short term memory, taking a deep breath, weathering those first
few punches that Ohio State's going to have, and then
settling in. And that's sometimes easier said than done. Sometimes
it takes you a half of football. Sometimes it takes
you know, a couple of positive plays or that first
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big throw, that first completion. It's almost like you know,
playing basketball. You know, once you kind of break the
seal you're able to make a bucket, then it feels
like you give a little more confident, like everything's gonna
start going in. So I'm sure Steve Sarkisian, because he's
a mastermind at devising plays, is gonna come up with
a few screens just to get him started, and just
also to try to tire out the Hot State pass rush.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Social media is going to have a field day this
after this game, one way or another, it's either Arch
is gonna win the Heisman, or arch is not gonna
win the Heisman, or Texas is not a great team,
or Texas looks dominating Ohio States overrated, or they're not
going to repeat. We tend to do that. You know
that quick reaction referendum coming up on Monday. What do
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you think the headline is going to be after this game?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well, I see it being more of a tight, low
scoring game. So I don't know that we're going to
see really either side coming away with like like a
blossoming report on either quarterback or either offense for that matter.
I think it's gonna be more of a defensive battle. Tipically,
the defense are ays ahead of the offense anyway this
time of year. It's impart the quarterbacks in both these
games are inexperienced. You know, Sam's his first start of
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his career, but it's also the offensive line we tend
to forget like that group takes a while to gel
and in particular for Texas, they got a bunch of
new starters. Ohio State has a bunch of guys who
play but have been in a full time starting role.
But you get in that environment again with the crowd noise,
everything else, and just your communication, how you pass off
the stunts and games. So I think it's gonna be
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more of a low, more defensive battle, and I think
we're going to come away with it looking at both
these two teams as two of the top teams in
college football and probably two teams that we want to
see how they progress and what they're going to look
like at the end of the season, because they may
very well be squaring it off for a national championship.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
But it's all said done.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
What is it like when you're out there on the road.
Let's say you're at the Big House. Let's say there's
eighty ninety one hundred thousand people there. What's that feeling
like when you first go on the field and you
know everybody in the building hate you. It's awesome? It
Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It's the best thing in the world.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Like, there is no greater feeling than walking in as
the enemy. And probably the most powerful thing that you
can do in that situation is there silence. And so
when you create those big plays, when you when you
throw a touchdown pass. But I'll never forget going to
Michigan in five and we went in with a no
huddle offense because Charlie West, our coach, was like, we
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don't even want to give the crowd the opportunity to
play any impact. And I think our first job, we
drove right down the field, scored and it kind of
took the win out of everyone and we kind of
just controlled the game from there. And I remember thinking back,
like walking out of that place here one hundred thousand
plus in the big house, quiet, nothing better than that, Like,
that's one of the most powerful things you can do
as a quarterback. When you're a part of a team
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that wins a game on the road in a big
environment like that and you just hear silence.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Brady is also part of a Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe, the radio program that precedes hours on
a lot of a lot of our affiliates. I was
listening the other day and you were talking about rookie
quarterbacks or second year quarterbacks and they will block out
one side of the field when they go back to pass,
they're already turned. And you know, you were talking about
(09:44):
the windows you have. You everybody's open, but in the
pros that are only open for you know, a split second,
you were kind of given a referendum on why these
quarterbacks struggle. So if you can recall what you were saying,
you know, with Caleb Williams and you know some of
these other guys, why do they struggle when they first
come in.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
So I think this is, and it starts to me
at really a fundamental age of learning how to drop
back because so many offenses. I mean, I've got nephews now.
My sons are too young to play, but I've got
nephews now that are playing in junior high and even
you know, in like fourth grade, fifth grade, and they're
in shotgun already. I mean, they don't do a snap
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from under center almost anywhere anymore. And the reason why
I think that's a bad place to start for quarterbacks
is everything under center is tied into a sense of
timing and rhythm. So your three step, five step, seven step,
even your play action pass fakes are all off of that.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
And the reason why that's so important.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Is because you have a sense of timing for the
full work that your receivers are running too, and so
your fullwork syncd up with their full work. The timing
kind of works out for it, and I know it
sounds like something small, but that shotgun snap, the amount
of time it takes to get to you sitting back
in shotgun makes just a bit of difference that it
changes really the timing of the play. And so for
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a lot of quarterbacks who are trained with playing from
under center, they naturally have that internal clock you hear
people talk about all the time for when they drop back.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
When they need to get rid of the football.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
The other thing it teaches you to do, because you're
sitting right under center, is to get back from the
line of scrimmage so you can see over those big
guys in front of you. And so whether it's your
three step, which no one does any more, five step,
or seven step, it teaches you how to set the
back of the pocket so you can see, but then
step back up into it because then that's what that
tackles our coach to do, is kind of push those
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edge rushers out around you. So what happens is oftentimes
when you catch the football and the shotgun, it's really
hard to kind of be as disciplined with your footwork
because the ball takes a little bit longer to get there.
It depends on the center snap too, but oftentimes you're
almost reacting to then when that footwork of the wide
receiver when things start to kind of come open. So
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you do your best your can to make that you know,
shotgun snap in the same rhythm that you have under center.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
But sometimes it doesn't work out that way, and.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
So it hurts the timing of the play, It hurts
how you set the pocket of it. But the thing
I was pointing out was oftentimes quarterbacks will catch the
football and they find themselves getting the back of the
pocket and they never square up their shoulders. And if
you don't square up your shoulders, you're not going to
be forced to climb up in back into the pocket
and then maintain the ability to still throw down the
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field and anyway, left, right, what have you.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Whether you're right hand or left handed.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Once you turn your hips and your shoulders parallel to
the line of scrimmage, you're really limiting where you can
throw the football downfield because physically it's difficult to contort
your body and throw all arm to the right side,
for example, if you're a right handed quarterback, or the
left side if you're a left handed quarterback, and so
and then you naturally when the way you see the
rush as you want to run left or right, you
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don't want to step up into it. So it's just
something that I think has happened over the course of
I don't know, the past decade or so, where so
many quarterbacks now are growing up playing shotgun that they
don't have this natural sense for how to navigate the
It takes droll work and it takes time for these
guys to learn how to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, and I saw that with Shador Sanders, when when
you're in the gun, it feels like you're going to
scramble out instead of move up in the pocket. It's
rare when these young quarterbacks move up in the pocket.
They're used to escaping, I think, and Montana told me
this years ago. He said, I loved being under center
because it allowed me to watch everything unfold and I
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could see everything in real time. I got back to
the pocket and I had a better sense of where
I was, and then I could move up in the
pocket and it feels like these guys are already back there,
and then they're going to try to, you know, be
an escape artist. And that's what Shador's gotten in trouble
with Caleb's gotten in trouble with and I don't know
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how Cam is going to do or Jackson Dart, but
it feels like they've all been taught kind of the
same thing.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
The best way I describe it is if you look
at boxers, for example, on how they navigate the ring.
It's very similar for the full work for a quarterback,
because when you get back there, you're really setting up
because you're delivering that overhand right. So every movement you
make should still keep you in a position to be
able to make that overhand right or that throw I
actually overhand right in my case is I'm right handed.
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And so that's where if you watch a boxer, like
they never are facing each other really directly with their
shoulders parallel. You know, usually they're they're turned a little
bit so they can get torque and they can throw
that overhand right for the knockout punch when they need to.
And so that's why I like I cross trained with
some boxing when I was younger, obviously because I felt
like it was it was great to keep you in shape,
but also it's very applicable for the way you navigate
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and move through the pocket, and you had to get
kind of get used to that and so look again,
it's something that you can work on, you can drill out,
but it does take some time to kind of, you know,
I guess reinvent you know, some of your your sense
of timing and footwork within the pocket, even from shotgun,
but it just it takes time and getting a lot
of practice at it.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
What do you expect when Notre Dame in Miami Sunday night? Uh?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, I'm not sure what to expect from Miami. You know,
they've got so many new players. I think I counted
five new starters on defense. Corey Headerman's taken over as
their defensive coordinator because they really struggled defensively last year.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Carson Beck steps in his quarterback which look two years
ago he was phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I really thought last year at Georgia he would play
well enough to put himself in the position to being
a top ten pick, and it just didn't work out
that way. And he transfers, and now you've got to
learn a new system. You have to develop chemistry with
new pass catchers. That's not easy to do. So knowing
Mario Christobal and he's got that O line background, I
think he doesn't mind, making this like a battle in
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the trenches, and I think Marcus Riemans loves that because
that plays right into Notre Dame's hand. Their defense is
going to be stout twenty one of the best in
college football. We've got the best running back in the
country in Jeremiah Love and everyone, like a lot of
people forget Jenering Price is a damn good back too.
You know, Little Williams too played as a freshman last
year with those two, so they're going to be able
to run the football. I think this is a low
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scoring game, and I think it's one. It's going to
be a battle, and it's probably going to come down
to which team can kind of limit their mistakes. And
I think, honestly, CJ. Carr, he's got all the talent
ability in the world. You know, he just has to
make enough big throws and enough conversions on third down
to allow No.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
To name to take care of business, which I think
they will do.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Who has more wins this year, the Patriots or North
Carolina Football.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, it's funny like outside of Clemson the ACC, I
think UNC can make a pretty good case for making
a run at that next team. To keep an eye on,
so I'll say they can probably get to nine. It's
gonna be close. I mean, look, I'm a huge Mike
Vrabel fan. I love Drake May. I love everything they've
done with that roster. I think they're gonna finish second
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Division this year, so I think that'll met them somewhere
around nine to ten wins. So I'm actually gonna go
on to say I'm gonna go with the Patriots. Okay,
I think they're a ten win teams. I think you
un ce somewhere that eight nine win ballpark.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Good to talk to you, save travels to Columbus and
thanks for joining us. As always, I'm just.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Hoping to get credential so I get in the stadium
like that's what I'm really.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Will you will you get booed there? Uh?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well I get booed. I don't know if I necessarily
will get booed. I don't know that. Uh there's other
people that get.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Dad.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
We do a lot of cheerity work with o Higot
State were donating thousands a year to that school.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I was like, I hope they don't.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Uh LINERD will get booed as.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
He should, as he probably should now now mark Ingram
will never get booed because Mark is like the people's champ,
like Mark is, he is the party that like wherever
you need to go, where you need to bring up
the vibes, like Mark is the guy to do it.
And obviously Coach won't. I mean they love coach. You know,
Coach won the national championship, so he's in good standing.
I you know, there's some other folks that can get dicey.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Is Dave Portnoy going to be there with you?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
He will be in Columbus, yes, and on the show.
You know. It's as far as where he'll be. I
can't divulge that information.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm guessing he won't be in the stadium.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I don't know, you never know. I mean that would
be one.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Of the old time to be great. Yeah, you saw the.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Michigan win last year. Maybe he finds his way into
the stadium. I can't say thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
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Our two, It's a Meet Friday. Ready to go. Fritzy's here,
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of time first hour talking about the trade. I wonder
if this is going to be Hey, do you know
who the Milwaukee Bucks got for Kareem abdul Jabbar when
they traded him away? Or Wilt Chamberlain, you know one
of those where you remember who was that guy that
they got from Green Bay? Oh, yeah, they got a
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on and we forget, Oh who did they get? Like
Jamal Adams when the Jets got three first round picks.
Garrett Wilson was one of those guys that they got
in return. The fact that Jamal Adams can command three
first round picks and Micah Parsons gets two first round
picks and Kenny Clark, and it feels like the attention,
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the spotlight is on the Cowboys like it always is.
But you know, the packers, they're not going to change
alter their you know, ticket prices this year, maybe next year.
But you just went from being a plus two thousand
to win the Super Bowl to plus twelve hundred, and
you were plus eleven hundred to win the NFC now
plus six hundred. You got quarterbacks in that division. I
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mean that is a very very competitive division that is
rivaling what you have in the AFC West. We don't
know what we have in Caleb Williams or JJ McCarthy.
Jared Goff has proven to be a high end quarterback.
Jordan Love has had his moments. He was banged up
last year, but is a This was a dangerous team.
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Now you've got a team that is going to be
one of the on the short list of Super Bowl favorites.
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the menu. Dylan is doing double duty here by sitting
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in Seaton's chair. He has to come up with a
poll question as well. We have smoke brisket. It's been
smoking for over twelve hours. We also have caprisee salad,
coleslaw potato salad. Who has it better than we do?
No body cowboys don't have it better than we do.
Todd Archer, ESPN NFL Nation reporter covering the Cowboys since
(22:15):
two thousand and three. Well, I didn't think we would
get here, but we got here. How did we get here? Todd?
Speaker 7 (22:24):
You know Jerry Jones has a line that he likes
to use where he says, don't let your.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Money get mad.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
I think his money got mad in this situation when
he wasn't able to work out the contract with directly
with Micah Parsons. There were no negotiations after that, no
offers sent from the team to the agent, nothing from
the agent back to the team, and they Mike Aside
made one last push at the start of the week
or the end of last week to say, hey, can
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we get going on this, Let's do a deal, and
Jerry flat out told him, Note, you're playing on the
fift year option and then we'll see what happens after
the season.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Well franchise tag.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Yeah, that kind of set all the balls in motion
towards this trade with Green Bay. A number of suitors
that we were told were involved. The Cowboys were kind
of limited to who they could be because that's he
needed Kaproom, that he needed a defensive player they could
get in return. And it came together pretty quickly once
the Packers were able to come to the agreement with
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Parsons on the long term contract.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
But Tom, let's go back to March. If you know
you're not going to sign him, at least create some
leverage of bidding war going into the draft. That's what
I don't understand. If he doesn't, then maybe I understand
the rationale. But still, you traded away, you know, one
of the five best defensive players in the game. You know,
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trajectory for the Hall of Fame. You get Kenny Clark,
who's over thirty, and you get too late first round picks.
More than likely, I just don't understand how Jerry can
with a straight face the team is better now today
than it was yesterday.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
Well, they're better for the playoffs. He didn't say when
they were going to make the playoffs. I guess right
if it would be this year or not. But I
asked Harry that question, if you knew in the beginning
of April that you had this pushback on the agreement
that you and Micah had from the agent, why didn't
you make the deal before the draft when you had
the opportunity to help your team more theoretically in twenty
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twenty five by getting a player in multiple draft picks
as well. So and his answer was convoluted in Jerry
like and I really don't know what it was. But
Stephen Jones said, well, the draft is in April two.
This was the beginning of the month and the end
of the month. You're at at least three weeks where
you could have worked that out and got into a deal.
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They chose not to do it. They went this route
and in their mind, this is the best that they
could do right now. And they knew that if Micah
Parsons wasn't going to play Week one against Philadelphia, that
would have been a situation that would have been onerous
for the entire year, and they didn't want to put
Brian Schottenheimer in part in that situation.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
But we've talked about this before. If the Cowboys have
a traditional general manager who has power, who has teeth,
do we get to this point in this you know
situation where you're parting with Micah Persons.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
Well, I think in that situation, the owner says, hey, man,
too bad, work it out. You know, that's what the
owner would say, because you you can't convince an owner
who's not the general manager that that team would be
better without Michaeh Parsons that particular season. So that's where
the the everybody who says Jerry needs the fire the GM, well,
this is the case where the GM didn't have an
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owner telling them what to do either.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I just wonder the role that Stephen Jones played in this,
because Jerry loves to be a buddy to the players.
Is Stephen are Steven's fingerprints on this? That he might
have been the one that, you know, convinced Jerry to
trade away mikeah Persons.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
I wouldn't cast the blame on Stephen Jones Jerry told
us that this was a unanimous decision from everybody in
the organization that they talked to, including some players. Uh,
players are on the leadership council when.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
We met yesterday.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Now I get it.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
It's easy to say, of course, everybody's going to tell Jerry, yeah,
let's go ahead and do this if that's what Jerry
wanted to do.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
Wait.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Wait, there were players on the Cowboys who co signed
on this to get to move on from Michael Parsons.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
That is what Jerry told us yesterday that there are
a player they have a leadership council. Players were contact
and they were they understood it as well. Whether they
were okay with it maybe a distinction.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Without difference, but they were.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
They were understanding why the Cowboys had to make the move.
And look, there have been teammates in Mike has past
and even probably some of the present that have been annoyed.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Might be the.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Best word by some of the things that he's done,
and they all might be little things to degree. Not
putting Dak Prescott in is one of the top quarterbacks
in the NFL. On your podcast, not working the hardest
on the practice field, showing up to the game the
other night eating nachos, lying down on the medical table.
All that stuff might be little stuff, but when you
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start adding all that stuff together, I think teammates again.
For sure, some former guys were just annoyed at times
by Mike Great, but they always understood his production on
the field is what mattered most.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Thank you, Todd, I know you're busy. Thanks for joining us.
Todd Archer ESPN NFL Nation reporter covering the Cowboys since
two thousand and three. Yeah, you're trying to figure this
out where you go? Okay, this makes a lot of sense. Sure,
we're a better team today. It goes back to when
Jerry said they were all in like all in one,
(27:52):
like all in a pile of bleep? What are you
all in on?
Speaker 10 (27:57):
Yeah, Pauline, I saw your reaction when Todd Archer said
that play on the whatever competition committee that they have
agreed with this trade and Jerry Jones said that to
the media. Do you believe that?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I mean, I'm gonna take Todd at his word, but
I can't imagine Dak Prescott or c d Lamb if
they're part of the leadership committee. Hey, hell yeah, get
rid of him. Let's get worse, I get I don't
understand it. Look, there are personalities that you have to
put up with, and you balance that by production and personality.
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It's like Draymond Green. I would have moved on from
Draymond Green. I don't want to deal with that personality anymore.
When he was great. Okay, I can deal with the personality.
Did Micah Parsons get to the point? And I know
he wasn't universally loved inside that building.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
He was not.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
And yes he has a big mouth. They know all
of these things. Hey, if you know all of these
things and how much is it going to cost you,
then trade him. Trade him in March or April, not now.
Rob Dimofsky, he's been covering the Packers since nineteen ninety seven.
ESPN NFL Nation Reporter, What was your reaction to this trade,
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Dana as.
Speaker 11 (29:12):
The week began.
Speaker 12 (29:13):
Earlier this week, you sort of had an inkling that
this might be a real possibility. In fact, on the
day after the cuts, I asked a couple players in
the locker room about it, and one of those guys
being All Pro safety Xavier McKinney, who just so happens to.
Speaker 11 (29:26):
Have the same agent as Michael Parsons.
Speaker 12 (29:29):
It was not a coincidence that I went up to him,
but Xavier first he looked at me and said, I'm
not talking about that, and I'm like, but you know him, right?
He goes, I know him. He's a great dude. And
that's about all I can say right now, and he
smiled at me. I mean, you know, again, at that point,
we weren't one hundred percent sure that the Packers weren't involved,
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or that the Cowboys were even listening. We know now
that they have been listening for a little while. And
I can tell you this dan from a Packers standpoint.
This all started a week or so ago, maybe a
little longer, and Brian Kudakuza, general manager, this is what
I was told, walked into Matt Lafleur's office and asked
his coach, would you want Micah Parsons? And Lafleur goes, well,
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of course, and then it took off from there.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
How does this not work out for the Packers?
Speaker 12 (30:18):
You know, if obviously at Parsons gets hurt, you know,
it's it's a disaster, right because you've paid them all
this money.
Speaker 11 (30:26):
You don't have your draft picks, you.
Speaker 12 (30:28):
Know, as long as Micah Parsons is the Micah Parsons
that we've seen for the last four years. I mean,
this is a team dan that has not had a player,
a single player with double digit sacks in a season
since the year before Michah Parsons came into the NFL.
Their last double digit sack guy was Zadarius Smith, and
I believe it was twenty twenty. You know, Rashan Gary
(30:50):
is a former first round pick, a good pass rusher
that they then gave a second contract too, but quite frankly,
has not been as good as they would have hoped.
I'm sure they think the addition of Michael Parsons not
only gives Michael gives them Michael Parsons, but it also
takes some of the double teams and the attention away
from Rashaan Gary. I do think, you know, Todd mentioned
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some of the Todd Archer mentioned some of the things
that go with Michaeh Parsons. I did talk to somebody
this morning in the league who thought, you know what,
maybe there is some of that, but this is for
this being Green Bay is the perfect place for them,
Like it's all about football here.
Speaker 11 (31:25):
Yes, he's got a little bit of an entourage, but
so does everybody now.
Speaker 12 (31:29):
And that the Packers infrastructure, you know, their their player development,
player engagement, security guys. They have the infrastructure to make
this work. And you know, I don't think the Packers
would have done it if they didn't feel like that
was a big concern.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
And this this has been kind of Unpacker. Like you
take a wide receiver in the first round, Well, you
take a big swing and you go Michaeh Parsons and
you know it. Have the Packers have they changed their philosophy?
Speaker 12 (31:57):
Yeah, it's it's a great question, and I think the
answer is yes. And I think it goes back to
a couple of things. One on January sixteenth, that was
four days after the Packers lost to the Eagles in
the playoffs, Brian Goudikunz, the general manager, said in front
of us at the podium, it's time we start competing
for championships.
Speaker 11 (32:15):
And then he does what you said, drafts, Matthew Golden.
Speaker 12 (32:18):
The last time they drafted a first round receiver here
was twenty one years ago. And then I think there's
another factor at play here, and that's the change in presidents.
You know, the Packers don't have an owner, they have
a team president. And that team president now is ED
Policy because the former president, Mark Murphy, reached the organization's
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mandatory retirement age of seventy And for those people who
don't know ED Policy but think they know that name
sounds familiar, it's Carman. Policy's son. Carmon ran the forty
nine Ers for a long time, made a lot of
bold moves out there, you know, moved on from Bill Wallash,
moved on from Joe Montana. And when we met with
ED Policy in the earlier the summer for the first time,
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we talked about how, you know, he watched his dad
make these bold moves that almost always, not always, but
almost always turned out for the better at the back
end of it.
Speaker 11 (33:10):
And I don't know if that policy is necessarily, you know.
Speaker 12 (33:14):
Encouraging them to be more aggressive or those guys just
feel like they can be more aggressive with this type
of leadership.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Great to talk to you, I know you're busy. Thanks
for joining us as always, Rob.
Speaker 11 (33:25):
You got it. Damn let me seeing you.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Rob Demomski, he's been covering the Packers since nineteen ninety seven. Yeah,
I was told that yesterday about Carmen Policy's son, because
Carmen Policy ran the forty nine ers and they made
big swings. They made trades. They weren't afraid, you know,
you're bringing in Steve Young. They weren't afraid to let
Joe Montana go or Bill Walsh go and you gotta
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have That's where it goes back to being indecisive. Packers
were not we're taking a wide receiver first round. We're
gonna make a big swing for Micah Parsons, whereas the
Cowboys have been indecisive. You know, they were indecisive with
Dak leading up to that, you know, first Sunday in
the NFL season, where hey, we agreed to this contract.
(34:09):
They were indecisive about Michael Parsons unless they you can
say they were decisive. They decided that back in March
that they weren't going to sign him. That was the
final offer. Okay, But then carry it on through and
if you're the Cowboys, why stop here? Why not see
if somebody wants ceedee lamb, why not say to the Rams, hey,
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would you like Dak Prescott? Can we have Matthew Stafford?
And you're going to get Matthew Stafford for one year.
I mean, I'm just throwing out stuff. You're not beating
the Eagles. How are you going to beat the Eagles? Well,
stockpiled draft picks, just like you did with the Herschel
Walker deal. If you're all in on, we're not going
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to pay, We're going to get draft picks. You're either
in or out. And that would be the only thing
I would say. If you're going to do something, then
I would say keep doing something. But they won't because
Jerry still needs shiny objects there. There have to be
guys you want to come out and see Ceedee Lamb,
Dak Prescott digs. Okay, but I mean, at what point
(35:20):
do you say? And then you got a rookie coach like,
oh my god. But is Edwarder, the great reporter who's
been there for I don't know how long Ed's been
there for thirty years. You just sent a tweet you
do not trade Micah Parsons not a week before the
season opener, and never to the Packers. Yep, he's right,
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but I know that they were trying. Okay, the leverage
that I was told this, I'm allowed to say this.
I had two conversations off the record yesterday and which
doesn't help me in being a radio host, but it
did kind of help me understand sort of what was
going on. But yet they were going to Their leverage
was we're going to make you pay play on that
fifth year option, and then we're going to franchise you.
(36:10):
And they were just trying to get him to agree
to the initial agreement because Jerry was all about loyalty.
We shook on this and we were going to pay him,
you know, forty point five million dollars a season or
whatever it was. And Michael Parson said, I don't have
my agent here. I'm not agreeing to anything. There's no
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contract here. And then all of a sudden you realize, michah,
don't negotiate. Look at what these contracts are going to
be for guys at your position. You're going to be
able to get forty five million dollars. It turns out
he gets forty seven. That's how this thing's happened. I
think we got an agreement sort of, let me bring
in my agent, and then all of a sudden, the
agent's probably like, no, no, don't do this. This is
(36:54):
what we're going to make trust me on this, and
then Jerry probably never forgave Michael Parson for you know,
renegging on you know their agreement, because I bought the
Cowboys with a handshake agreement. All right, Times have changed.
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He is Vince Young, former Texas quarterback and won a
national championship back in five I've beating USC Heisman Trophy
runner up and has a podcast It's called The Stampede
the Texas Longhorns. It's a weekly show. It's Vince, former
(38:10):
coach Mac Brown and stories that you haven't heard before.
Go to the stampedeut dot com to subscribe. There he
is Vince Young joining us on the program. Can you
relate to the pressure that arch Manning is gonna face
coming up this season?
Speaker 13 (38:29):
Yes, a lot of it, but he's ready for it.
Speaker 8 (38:34):
He's ready for it. He's definitely ready for it.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Okay, what do you see in him so far? Because
it's been a small sample size that leads you to
believe he's ready for this.
Speaker 13 (38:46):
Well, just being around him, the way he carriesself. He
has that I respect you kind of attitude. Character like
it's about my teammates. He has fun, he's goofy, silly.
He even challenged me one day. I was throwing the
ball to my son on the football field and he
was like, v why do you still got it?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
It's like, what good one?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Good one?
Speaker 8 (39:13):
So that type of things right there, just to show
me what type of person he is.
Speaker 13 (39:17):
And you know a lot of people don't understand when
you have two uncles and a dad as in your
family that went through it all and you was a
kid just sitting behind the scenes watching it and learning it,
even getting small words from your uncle and dad. You
know that resonates for you as you get older. As
a kid, so you can see it in him and
(39:37):
I can feel it too when he talks and how
you carry himself.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
How successful were you against Eli and Peyton?
Speaker 13 (39:44):
Pretty pretty successful? I mean me and Peyton went at
it because we had to play him twice twice a year,
and yeah, I think I'm undefeated against Eli. I got
Eli a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Okay, yeah, But when you see Peyton, do you see
Arch more like Eli or Peyton or neither neither?
Speaker 13 (40:07):
You know, I feel like he has the traits. I
think he has that big head like his uncle, but.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
He doesn't run like his uncles.
Speaker 13 (40:17):
He don't run like his uncle, And I feel like
he has his own swag, it has his own character.
Especially with this generation. You can tell with this generation,
these guys, you know, they have a little bit more
fun with their teammates, and which is a good thing
because of the fact, like, in order to win on
the level that he's on at Texas, you got to
(40:38):
have a little bit more chemistry and more character with
your guys. And you can see that with the whole
entire Texas team.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
If you ran a forty against Arch, who's winning?
Speaker 8 (40:49):
He got me right now?
Speaker 13 (40:50):
He does unless he give me a week or two
to warm up, and it takes that long for me
to warm up right now.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
But you could run a forty in four to six.
Speaker 13 (40:58):
I can get it by into four to six and
not just coming out the stands or something like that. No,
I won't get it if they give me like the hours.
Speaker 9 (41:07):
In the back.
Speaker 13 (41:07):
Yeah, give me a hot tub and some cold tub
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Then Yeah, what highlight comes to mind when you think
of your career looking back? What's what's the one highlight
you want fans to remember?
Speaker 8 (41:20):
Oh? Man, my favorite is I graduated. You know.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Oh cool.
Speaker 13 (41:25):
A lot of people didn't in my neighborhoods and my
peers and the doughters didn't think that I was going
to finish uh with that piece of paper. So that's
one of my major highlights, uh for my entire family
because I was the first to graduate, and then I
set the tone for my kids as well to go
and get your degree as well.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I'm talking to Vince Young, former Texas quarterback won a
national championship in five And it's called The Stampede, a
podcast on the Texas Longhorn. So it's a weekly show
hosted by Vince with Mac Brown and called the stamped
Heed on stampedeut dot com to subscribe take me in
(42:05):
the huddle National title game USC and Mac Brown sends
in the play, what is the play when you run
for the touchdown?
Speaker 13 (42:15):
The play is menu too, So it's something we ran
just about it all the time. It was one of
our top plays that we ran that I felt like
a lot of people couldn't stop it. We was very
successful in it percentage wise, and before we left Austin,
coaching coach Brown and coach Greg Davis office and coordinator
at the.
Speaker 8 (42:32):
Time was if the game was on the line, what play?
Speaker 13 (42:35):
What play would you call? And me being where I
am is quarterback sneak. You know, I walked the ball
in my hands and you know, coaches us this is
why coaches, coach and players play.
Speaker 8 (42:45):
They was like, while what we just call a pass
play and.
Speaker 13 (42:48):
It gives you both options and show enough. It happened
just how we talked about it before we left Austen.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
It felt like they had a spy, but the spy
wasn't fast enough to well.
Speaker 13 (43:01):
First of all, you know, they ran that blitz a
couple of times, that strong, strong blitz a couple of times,
and all our guys did was stay at home, did
what they were supposed to do. And then Selvin Young
did what he's supposed to do. If there's nobody there,
run your route, and he ran his route to the
point that he got Rutger to focus on him just
enough for me to take off with the ball. So,
(43:24):
you know, a lot of people give me a lot
of credit for that play, but I give a lot
of credit to my old line and so Man Young
for doing everybody doing their job. And you know, I
can find that that spy guy for me.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Best player you played against.
Speaker 13 (43:38):
That's player, and just in college or pros, just period period.
Oh man, it's a couple of names out there, Dad Reed,
Uh yeah, A j Hawk at Ohio State game that was,
oh my butt the whole time. Troup Polamala, unbelievable player,
(44:04):
Big Harrison Pittsburgh still lives, d Lion.
Speaker 8 (44:07):
Yeah, it's a long list.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
James is he crazy?
Speaker 9 (44:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (44:12):
He dunky.
Speaker 13 (44:13):
I don't know if if I remember that he he
slapped my butt in that game.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Did you say anything?
Speaker 3 (44:21):
I was pretty pissed.
Speaker 8 (44:22):
I didn't say nothing to him.
Speaker 13 (44:23):
I was pretty pissed at the referees for allowing it
to happen.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
It looked like WWE exactly.
Speaker 13 (44:31):
So I was like, man, I need to get my
weight up, I need to small potatoes. He just made
that look so easy.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Did you ever think about asking for the heisman when
Bush had it taken away?
Speaker 8 (44:44):
No, they tried to give it to me.
Speaker 13 (44:46):
Uh, but you know, I didn't want to take it
because of the fact that he wanted.
Speaker 8 (44:49):
Fair and square.
Speaker 13 (44:50):
So you know, Reggie was a dynamic player and it
was a great individual character guy that I appreciate even
that to this day when we have opportunities come together
and do things together.
Speaker 8 (45:01):
He's just a fun person. And he wanted fairy.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Square because he wanted on the field, is what you're saying.
Speaker 8 (45:08):
He definitely wanted on the field for sure.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, if the.
Speaker 13 (45:11):
Heisman was probably after then I probably shore. I think
we probably would have they would have caved it to me.
But he earned a very fairy square for sure.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
But you didn't have a chip on your shoulder going
into the national title game.
Speaker 13 (45:24):
Yeah, I was pissed off a little, and I was
definitely upset because I wanted to bring that heusman back
to Austin because you know, Earl Campbell and Ricky Williams wanted.
You know, a lot of people don't understand that the
Heisman Trophy, it's not just an individual accolade.
Speaker 8 (45:40):
It's actually a team award.
Speaker 13 (45:42):
So I really wanted to bring that back home to
Austin and then so we can have three Heisman Trophies
at the University of Texas.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah, but you got the national title and you'd rather
have a national title than a Heisman.
Speaker 13 (45:52):
Yeah, and we needed that because I think it was
thirty seven years before we had a championship. So we
definitely need to bring that trophy back to Austin, Texas,
in the state of Texas.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
As Matthew McConaughey ever suggested to put you in a movie.
Speaker 13 (46:07):
I haven't tapped him on the shoulder yet about that yet,
but it's coming. Oh it is, I will there's some
things that I that's working underneath the radar. But you know,
for him to mentor Bjeon right now, I thought that
was pretty cool because Bijeon wants to get into acting
when he's done playing, and well while he's playing, and
(46:29):
for him for Matthew to give him guidance on that,
you know, I should have took advantage of that a.
Speaker 8 (46:36):
Long time ago.
Speaker 13 (46:36):
But you know, I'm happy that he's doing that for
a lot of the you know, young athletes out there
that want to get probably involved with in the movies.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
You on the sidelines on Saturday.
Speaker 13 (46:47):
Oh yeah, I don't too much. Let my loanhorn go
to any places without me.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Now does Sarkesian? Has he ever asked you for advice?
Speaker 13 (46:58):
I spoke to the team before, you know, kind of
give them, you know, things that they should work on,
things that they should focus on, understanding the tradition of
the University of Texas, you know, things like that. You know,
I enjoy doing that, but most time I don't. I
don't bother coach. I just like being around him. He's
a great coach, pretty good coach. He's down to earth,
(47:20):
you know. I like talking to him about the USC
games and talking football. You know, he played at by
U quarterback. You know, we kind of in the same
position because we played in the same you know, same
the same position.
Speaker 8 (47:33):
So it's always cool to be around coach Star.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
And sark was there at USC when you won the
national title.
Speaker 13 (47:38):
Yeah, so you know we had to ask him, why
did you why you didn't have Reggie Bush in the
game on that that play.
Speaker 8 (47:44):
Everybody wanted to know that.
Speaker 13 (47:46):
So that was the first question I had to ask
when I first met him, when he came to Texas
and you know, came to head coach at the University
of Texas.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Well, I have fun in Columbus. Hopefully they treat you
nice and good luck with the podcast bench.
Speaker 13 (47:59):
Yeah, hopefully they had treat me. Like you said, it's
gonna be really wild out there. But thanks man, I'm
glad to have opportunity to chat. Which is good to
see you.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
That's Vince Young, former Texas quarterback. He was the six
NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year, two time Pro Bowl
quarterback as well. I'm hearing from USC fans. Why do
you have Vince Young on?
Speaker 9 (48:19):
I go?
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Why are you so sensited? I mean, I have Matt
Weinert on, Well, I have Lyndale White on if you
want to nice, Yes, Todd.
Speaker 11 (48:30):
We've had San Chaz, Reggie, but we've had plenty of
USC cousin.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
I know, but Vince Young ran in the touchdown and
they'd lost the nation.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
They'll have to get over it. There was two thousand
and five.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Oh coming from you getting over so like thirty nine
ten super Bowls, The Stampede Podcast, The Texas Longhorns with
Vince and Mac Brown. You can go to the Stampede
ut dot com to subscribe. Uh seea and Albert Querque. Hi, Deanna, Hello, Hi.
Speaker 9 (49:05):
I'd like to weigh in for my husband Ryan six
four two thirty five. He's a diehard fan and then
listening to y'all forever and it's his birthday today and.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
His name is Ryan Ryan. Okay, here we go three two?
Speaker 9 (49:22):
What ball?
Speaker 10 (49:23):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (49:23):
Just getting the crescendo.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Oh you were, Oh you were being the conductor there.
You had your hands up. I thought I was like
a stop sign there, Happy birthday to go down.
Speaker 9 (49:40):
That was awesome that I just make his his day.
His leak A huge fan, and he says I remind
him of a fritzy. He calls me his little fritzy.
I seem not a compliment.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
That's not that's unfortunately, that is not. Oh yes, I
see so I hate to break this out. Yes, thank
you though you did it. You did your job, Deanna.
But have a great weekend. Thanks for joining us. Let's
see Jacob in Oklahoma. Hi, Jake, what's on?
Speaker 14 (50:11):
Your mind today, Hey Dan, first time caller, a longtime listener.
One point seven meters eighty kilgrams. Okay, and it's very
horm my muscles at least. Of course, I don't think
you could talk about getting over anything. You just celebrated
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your Finder anniversary with the Baigo incident, so I don't
know if that's really something you've been doing, and you
kind of touched on it. But Michael Parsons, I've seen
him a couple of times in person, and I've.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Kind of been underwhelmed.
Speaker 14 (50:49):
It just seems like his effort is kind of hit
or miss. I know Jerry should have signed Mike a
long time ago, but with forty seven middle a year,
I I kind of got to defend Garry a little bit.
I mean, it's not like he was gonna win anything
going for it. He's probably still not going to.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
And look, Jacob, I understand that. I think he got
to a point where he was too expensive and there
was some you know, kind of leftover scar tissue. But
do it in March. If you're going to hold a
grudge against him because he didn't agree to that deal
that was a handshake agreement, then trade him. If you're
going to do something for the betterment of the franchise,
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then do it back then. That way you can bring
in other teams. Everybody's got their draft picks. Micah Parsons
is available. Come on down. Who's interested. But thank you
for the phone call.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
He's Brady Quinn Fox College Football analyst and part of
the big noon kickoff. They will be in Columbus and
it'll be Texas against Ohio State. We'll talk about that
coming up in a moment. Good to see you again.
With yesterday's news happening in the NFL, did that change
your opinion on which who is the team to beat.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
A little bit?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
I mean, I think the way I look at the
NFC is this probably three or four teams that I
think we legitimately are looking at thinking that they can
win a Super Bowl, Philly being at the top of
the list, but Green Bay was probably one of those teams,
and now it makes them, without a doubt, a contender,
maybe even the biggest contender to the Philadelphia Eagles in
my opinion.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Help me understand, Let's start with Dallas. You're shaking your
head already.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Because Dan, none of it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I know, like a guy you drafted who has been
a generational talent, has done every thing on the field
that you'd hope he would be.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
How do you make any sense of letting him walk?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
And I'm not saying that Kenny Clark won't help the
run defense, or they might not get a couple of
good first round picks, but probably because they're from Green Bay,
probably in the you know, second half, somewhere in the twenties.
It's not like you're getting a top ten pick. And
so I just I really don't see in the short
term how this is going to help them the way
it would if Michael Parsons was on the field for them,
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and even the long term, like let's just say that,
you know, they're in a rebuilding phase, not that they
necessarily are, but in no way, shape or form does
this help Dallas in the short term or long term.
And if I'm a veteran in that locker room in
Dallas and I keep hearing, you know, the phrase last year,
we're all in, and people have kind of questioned some
of that throughout the throughout the years.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Now I'm really questioning it, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Now, I'm really wondering, like what exactly is going on
in Dallas and how does this happen? Because it's not
like Jerry Jones doesn't have the money or the cap
space to do that sort of deal. It was a
good deal, but it wasn't astronomical, something that really blew
things out of the water. In regards to the Dallas
Cowboys being unable to sign him to that deal, they
were able to make it work with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
They've been able to make it work Ceedee Lamb and
other players.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
This wasn't the sort of deal that would completely handicap
them moving forward to their salary caps.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I just didn't understand the lack of leverage there that
Jerry could have created. You're a businessman, create leverage and
maybe prior to the draft you could have said he he's available,
or you could have said in the last couple of weeks,
he's available. Let's get into a bidding war here. Because
to first round two late first round picks and Kenny Clark,
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the fact that Seattle gave up three first round picks
for Jamal Adams, you know, Khalil Mack when he went
to the Bears. The Raiders got a better deal, Like,
it just doesn't make sense with what you got in return.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, by the way, it was Green Bay the only
team that wanted to make a Parson services. That's the
other odd thing. It's like, was there not more teams inquiring?
Was it Green Bay that was your best offer. It's
just shocking. I mean, I think if you look at
it statistically speaking, Micah Parsons is on a run that's
again like in the likes of someone like LT and
the likes of some of the greatest that have ever
done it.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And so you have to.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Think that every single team that is in need of
an edge rusher had reached out and would be willing
to mortgage at least the next few years of the
first round of the draft to have a player like
that and sign him to a long term deal, especially
when he's still in his prime. So look, I don't
know if there's more to the story behind the scenes,
whether that's from Micah's side or Jerry Jones side. It
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feels like that because none of this makes any sense,
and it definitely doesn't from the Dallas Cowboys standpoint, and
I feel bad for their fan base because I feel
like they're being sold a bill of goods and it's
almost as if you can hear Jerry Jones up there
trying to talk everyone into what makes sense for this,
and it it sounds like one of those things where
you you know, have your grandparent. They're getting to a
(03:55):
point where you're like, okay, okay, Grandma, I'm not sure
I necessarily believe what you're saying right now, but I'm
going to give you a hug and a kiss, and
I'm gonna keep supporting you.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I don't know who's running the NFL Players Associate Players
Association anymore, but why did they allow Jerry Jones to
negotiate in parentheses a contract with Michael Parsons without his
agent there.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I mean, the sheer fact that you don't know who
right now is running the NFLPA kind of lends itself
to how that probably happens. I mean that the NFLPA
obviously has had its issues.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I mean, as far as how things have, how business
is being done, or maybe I should say how some
of the meetings were taking place, especially with some of
the venues they were taking place at. I know Fritzy
frequents those from time to time, but I'll go ahead
and leave that out of it.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I mean, this whole entire saga, whatever you want to
how you want to describe it is quite possibly. I mean,
you're can only describe it as it being something that
happens with Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. I don't
know any other team that does business like this other
than Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys, at least at
this point in time in his career, owning the team
and being the general manager.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Talking to Brady Quinn, Fox College football Analyst, Big noon kickoff,
it'll be there at the Shoe in Columbus and it'll
be number one Texas, number three Ohio State. What advice
would you give arch Manning.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Oh, it's a good question.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I think the first thing I would say, I mean,
he started some games before, but this one's going to
feel different, in part because he's got some new pieces
up in front of him, but it's probably just weathering
the storm. I mean, there's gonna be that initial adrenaline rush,
which I'm sure he felt before the first time he started,
going back to last year, even when he first got
in Verus, Colorado State. You know, you feel that adrenaline
(05:45):
like run through your body where you get that excitement.
But there's going to be a different feeling in this
one because of the atmosphere. I mean, Bucket Nation is
one of the best toughest fan bases that you're going
to go up against there's one hundred thousand plus in
that place, and it gets loud, and so it's really
about to me whethering the storm early. You know, he's
still very young in his career. It's his first year
(06:06):
full time now as a starter, so there's going to
be a mistakes made, and it's kind of having that
short term memory, taking a deep breath, weathering those first
few punches that Ohio State's going to have, and then
settling in. And that's sometimes easier said than done. Sometimes
it takes you a half of football. Sometimes it takes
you know, a couple of positive plays or that first
(06:27):
big throw, that first completion. It's almost like you know,
playing basketball. You know, once you kind of break the
seal you're able to make a bucket, then it feels
like you give a little more confident, like everything's gonna
start going in. So I'm sure Steve Sarkisian, because he's
a mastermind at devising plays, is gonna come up with
a few screens just to get him started, and just
also to try to tire out the Hot State pass rush.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Social media is going to have a field day this
after this game, one way or another, it's either Arch
is gonna win the Heisman, or arch is not gonna
win the Heisman, or Texas is not a great team,
or Texas looks dominating Ohio States overrated, or they're not
going to repeat. We tend to do that. You know
that quick reaction referendum coming up on Monday. What do
(07:12):
you think the headline is going to be after this game?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well, I see it being more of a tight, low
scoring game. So I don't know that we're going to
see really either side coming away with like like a
blossoming report on either quarterback or either offense for that matter.
I think it's gonna be more of a defensive battle. Tipically,
the defense are ays ahead of the offense anyway this
time of year. It's impart the quarterbacks in both these
games are inexperienced. You know, Sam's his first start of
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his career, but it's also the offensive line we tend
to forget like that group takes a while to gel
and in particular for Texas, they got a bunch of
new starters. Ohio State has a bunch of guys who
play but have been in a full time starting role.
But you get in that environment again with the crowd noise,
everything else, and just your communication, how you pass off
the stunts and games. So I think it's gonna be
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more of a low, more defensive battle, and I think
we're going to come away with it looking at both
these two teams as two of the top teams in
college football and probably two teams that we want to
see how they progress and what they're going to look
like at the end of the season, because they may
very well be squaring it off for a national championship.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
But it's all said done.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
What is it like when you're out there on the road.
Let's say you're at the Big House. Let's say there's
eighty ninety one hundred thousand people there. What's that feeling
like when you first go on the field and you
know everybody in the building hate you. It's awesome? It
Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It's the best thing in the world.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Like, there is no greater feeling than walking in as
the enemy. And probably the most powerful thing that you
can do in that situation is there silence. And so
when you create those big plays, when you when you
throw a touchdown pass. But I'll never forget going to
Michigan in five and we went in with a no
huddle offense because Charlie West, our coach, was like, we
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don't even want to give the crowd the opportunity to
play any impact. And I think our first job, we
drove right down the field, scored and it kind of
took the win out of everyone and we kind of
just controlled the game from there. And I remember thinking back,
like walking out of that place here one hundred thousand
plus in the big house, quiet, nothing better than that, Like,
that's one of the most powerful things you can do
as a quarterback. When you're a part of a team
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that wins a game on the road in a big
environment like that and you just hear silence.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Brady is also part of a Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe, the radio program that precedes hours on
a lot of a lot of our affiliates. I was
listening the other day and you were talking about rookie
quarterbacks or second year quarterbacks and they will block out
one side of the field when they go back to pass,
they're already turned. And you know, you were talking about
(09:44):
the windows you have. You everybody's open, but in the
pros that are only open for you know, a split second,
you were kind of given a referendum on why these
quarterbacks struggle. So if you can recall what you were saying,
you know, with Caleb Williams and you know some of
these other guys, why do they struggle when they first
come in.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
So I think this is, and it starts to me
at really a fundamental age of learning how to drop
back because so many offenses. I mean, I've got nephews now.
My sons are too young to play, but I've got
nephews now that are playing in junior high and even
you know, in like fourth grade, fifth grade, and they're
in shotgun already. I mean, they don't do a snap
(10:26):
from under center almost anywhere anymore. And the reason why
I think that's a bad place to start for quarterbacks
is everything under center is tied into a sense of
timing and rhythm. So your three step, five step, seven step,
even your play action pass fakes are all off of that.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
And the reason why that's so important.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Is because you have a sense of timing for the
full work that your receivers are running too, and so
your fullwork syncd up with their full work. The timing
kind of works out for it, and I know it
sounds like something small, but that shotgun snap, the amount
of time it takes to get to you sitting back
in shotgun makes just a bit of difference that it
changes really the timing of the play. And so for
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a lot of quarterbacks who are trained with playing from
under center, they naturally have that internal clock you hear
people talk about all the time for when they drop back.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
When they need to get rid of the football.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
The other thing it teaches you to do, because you're
sitting right under center, is to get back from the
line of scrimmage so you can see over those big
guys in front of you. And so whether it's your
three step, which no one does any more, five step,
or seven step, it teaches you how to set the
back of the pocket so you can see, but then
step back up into it because then that's what that
tackles our coach to do, is kind of push those
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edge rushers out around you. So what happens is oftentimes
when you catch the football and the shotgun, it's really
hard to kind of be as disciplined with your footwork
because the ball takes a little bit longer to get there.
It depends on the center snap too, but oftentimes you're
almost reacting to then when that footwork of the wide
receiver when things start to kind of come open. So
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you do your best your can to make that you know,
shotgun snap in the same rhythm that you have under center.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
But sometimes it doesn't work out that way, and.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
So it hurts the timing of the play, It hurts
how you set the pocket of it. But the thing
I was pointing out was oftentimes quarterbacks will catch the
football and they find themselves getting the back of the
pocket and they never square up their shoulders. And if
you don't square up your shoulders, you're not going to
be forced to climb up in back into the pocket
and then maintain the ability to still throw down the
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field and anyway, left, right, what have you.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Whether you're right hand or left handed.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Once you turn your hips and your shoulders parallel to
the line of scrimmage, you're really limiting where you can
throw the football downfield because physically it's difficult to contort
your body and throw all arm to the right side,
for example, if you're a right handed quarterback, or the
left side if you're a left handed quarterback, and so
and then you naturally when the way you see the
rush as you want to run left or right, you
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don't want to step up into it. So it's just
something that I think has happened over the course of
I don't know, the past decade or so, where so
many quarterbacks now are growing up playing shotgun that they
don't have this natural sense for how to navigate the
It takes droll work and it takes time for these
guys to learn how to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, and I saw that with Shador Sanders, when when
you're in the gun, it feels like you're going to
scramble out instead of move up in the pocket. It's
rare when these young quarterbacks move up in the pocket.
They're used to escaping, I think, and Montana told me
this years ago. He said, I loved being under center
because it allowed me to watch everything unfold and I
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could see everything in real time. I got back to
the pocket and I had a better sense of where
I was, and then I could move up in the
pocket and it feels like these guys are already back there,
and then they're going to try to, you know, be
an escape artist. And that's what Shador's gotten in trouble
with Caleb's gotten in trouble with and I don't know
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how Cam is going to do or Jackson Dart, but
it feels like they've all been taught kind of the
same thing.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
The best way I describe it is if you look
at boxers, for example, on how they navigate the ring.
It's very similar for the full work for a quarterback,
because when you get back there, you're really setting up
because you're delivering that overhand right. So every movement you
make should still keep you in a position to be
able to make that overhand right or that throw I
actually overhand right in my case is I'm right handed.
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And so that's where if you watch a boxer, like
they never are facing each other really directly with their
shoulders parallel. You know, usually they're they're turned a little
bit so they can get torque and they can throw
that overhand right for the knockout punch when they need to.
And so that's why I like I cross trained with
some boxing when I was younger, obviously because I felt
like it was it was great to keep you in shape,
but also it's very applicable for the way you navigate
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and move through the pocket, and you had to get
kind of get used to that and so look again,
it's something that you can work on, you can drill out,
but it does take some time to kind of, you know,
I guess reinvent you know, some of your your sense
of timing and footwork within the pocket, even from shotgun,
but it just it takes time and getting a lot
of practice at it.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
What do you expect when Notre Dame in Miami Sunday night? Uh?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, I'm not sure what to expect from Miami. You know,
they've got so many new players. I think I counted
five new starters on defense. Corey Headerman's taken over as
their defensive coordinator because they really struggled defensively last year.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Carson Beck steps in his quarterback which look two years
ago he was phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I really thought last year at Georgia he would play
well enough to put himself in the position to being
a top ten pick, and it just didn't work out
that way. And he transfers, and now you've got to
learn a new system. You have to develop chemistry with
new pass catchers. That's not easy to do. So knowing
Mario Christobal and he's got that O line background, I
think he doesn't mind, making this like a battle in
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the trenches, and I think Marcus Riemans loves that because
that plays right into Notre Dame's hand. Their defense is
going to be stout twenty one of the best in
college football. We've got the best running back in the
country in Jeremiah Love and everyone, like a lot of
people forget Jenering Price is a damn good back too.
You know, Little Williams too played as a freshman last
year with those two, so they're going to be able
to run the football. I think this is a low
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scoring game, and I think it's one. It's going to
be a battle, and it's probably going to come down
to which team can kind of limit their mistakes. And
I think, honestly, CJ. Carr, he's got all the talent
ability in the world. You know, he just has to
make enough big throws and enough conversions on third down
to allow No.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
To name to take care of business, which I think
they will do.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Who has more wins this year, the Patriots or North
Carolina Football.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, it's funny like outside of Clemson the ACC, I
think UNC can make a pretty good case for making
a run at that next team. To keep an eye on,
so I'll say they can probably get to nine. It's
gonna be close. I mean, look, I'm a huge Mike
Vrabel fan. I love Drake May. I love everything they've
done with that roster. I think they're gonna finish second
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Division this year, so I think that'll met them somewhere
around nine to ten wins. So I'm actually gonna go
on to say I'm gonna go with the Patriots. Okay,
I think they're a ten win teams. I think you
un ce somewhere that eight nine win ballpark.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Good to talk to you, save travels to Columbus and
thanks for joining us. As always, I'm just.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Hoping to get credential so I get in the stadium
like that's what I'm really.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Will you will you get booed there? Uh?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well I get booed. I don't know if I necessarily
will get booed. I don't know that. Uh there's other
people that get.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Dad.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
We do a lot of cheerity work with o Higot
State were donating thousands a year to that school.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I was like, I hope they don't.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Uh LINERD will get booed as.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
He should, as he probably should now now mark Ingram
will never get booed because Mark is like the people's champ,
like Mark is, he is the party that like wherever
you need to go, where you need to bring up
the vibes, like Mark is the guy to do it.
And obviously Coach won't. I mean they love coach. You know,
Coach won the national championship, so he's in good standing.
I you know, there's some other folks that can get dicey.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Is Dave Portnoy going to be there with you?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
He will be in Columbus, yes, and on the show.
You know. It's as far as where he'll be. I
can't divulge that information.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm guessing he won't be in the stadium.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I don't know, you never know. I mean that would
be one.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Of the old time to be great. Yeah, you saw the.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Michigan win last year. Maybe he finds his way into
the stadium. I can't say thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Brady. Yep, Brady Quinn and he'll be there with Big
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if this is going to be Hey, do you know
who the Milwaukee Bucks got for Kareem abdul Jabbar when
they traded him away? Or Wilt Chamberlain, you know one
of those where you remember who was that guy that
they got from Green Bay? Oh, yeah, they got a
couple of draft picks. Because sometimes, you know, we move
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on and we forget, Oh who did they get? Like
Jamal Adams when the Jets got three first round picks.
Garrett Wilson was one of those guys that they got
in return. The fact that Jamal Adams can command three
first round picks and Micah Parsons gets two first round
picks and Kenny Clark, and it feels like the attention,
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the spotlight is on the Cowboys like it always is.
But you know, the packers, they're not going to change
alter their you know, ticket prices this year, maybe next year.
But you just went from being a plus two thousand
to win the Super Bowl to plus twelve hundred, and
you were plus eleven hundred to win the NFC now
plus six hundred. You got quarterbacks in that division. I
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mean that is a very very competitive division that is
rivaling what you have in the AFC West. We don't
know what we have in Caleb Williams or JJ McCarthy.
Jared Goff has proven to be a high end quarterback.
Jordan Love has had his moments. He was banged up
last year, but is a This was a dangerous team.
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Now you've got a team that is going to be
one of the on the short list of Super Bowl favorites.
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It is a Meet Friday in Kseher wondering what's on
the menu. Dylan is doing double duty here by sitting
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in Seaton's chair. He has to come up with a
poll question as well. We have smoke brisket. It's been
smoking for over twelve hours. We also have caprisee salad,
coleslaw potato salad. Who has it better than we do?
No body cowboys don't have it better than we do.
Todd Archer, ESPN NFL Nation reporter covering the Cowboys since
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two thousand and three. Well, I didn't think we would
get here, but we got here. How did we get here? Todd?
Speaker 7 (22:24):
You know Jerry Jones has a line that he likes
to use where he says, don't let your.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Money get mad.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
I think his money got mad in this situation when
he wasn't able to work out the contract with directly
with Micah Parsons. There were no negotiations after that, no
offers sent from the team to the agent, nothing from
the agent back to the team, and they Mike Aside
made one last push at the start of the week
or the end of last week to say, hey, can
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we get going on this, Let's do a deal, and
Jerry flat out told him, Note, you're playing on the
fift year option and then we'll see what happens after
the season.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Well franchise tag.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Yeah, that kind of set all the balls in motion
towards this trade with Green Bay. A number of suitors
that we were told were involved. The Cowboys were kind
of limited to who they could be because that's he
needed Kaproom, that he needed a defensive player they could
get in return. And it came together pretty quickly once
the Packers were able to come to the agreement with
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Parsons on the long term contract.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
But Tom, let's go back to March. If you know
you're not going to sign him, at least create some
leverage of bidding war going into the draft. That's what
I don't understand. If he doesn't, then maybe I understand
the rationale. But still, you traded away, you know, one
of the five best defensive players in the game. You know,
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trajectory for the Hall of Fame. You get Kenny Clark,
who's over thirty, and you get too late first round picks.
More than likely, I just don't understand how Jerry can
with a straight face the team is better now today
than it was yesterday.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
Well, they're better for the playoffs. He didn't say when
they were going to make the playoffs. I guess right
if it would be this year or not. But I
asked Harry that question, if you knew in the beginning
of April that you had this pushback on the agreement
that you and Micah had from the agent, why didn't
you make the deal before the draft when you had
the opportunity to help your team more theoretically in twenty
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twenty five by getting a player in multiple draft picks
as well. So and his answer was convoluted in Jerry
like and I really don't know what it was. But
Stephen Jones said, well, the draft is in April two.
This was the beginning of the month and the end
of the month. You're at at least three weeks where
you could have worked that out and got into a deal.
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They chose not to do it. They went this route
and in their mind, this is the best that they
could do right now. And they knew that if Micah
Parsons wasn't going to play Week one against Philadelphia, that
would have been a situation that would have been onerous
for the entire year, and they didn't want to put
Brian Schottenheimer in part in that situation.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
But we've talked about this before. If the Cowboys have
a traditional general manager who has power, who has teeth,
do we get to this point in this you know
situation where you're parting with Micah Persons.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
Well, I think in that situation, the owner says, hey, man,
too bad, work it out. You know, that's what the
owner would say, because you you can't convince an owner
who's not the general manager that that team would be
better without Michaeh Parsons that particular season. So that's where
the the everybody who says Jerry needs the fire the GM, well,
this is the case where the GM didn't have an
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owner telling them what to do either.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I just wonder the role that Stephen Jones played in this,
because Jerry loves to be a buddy to the players.
Is Stephen are Steven's fingerprints on this? That he might
have been the one that, you know, convinced Jerry to
trade away mikeah Persons.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
I wouldn't cast the blame on Stephen Jones Jerry told
us that this was a unanimous decision from everybody in
the organization that they talked to, including some players. Uh,
players are on the leadership council when.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
We met yesterday.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Now I get it.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
It's easy to say, of course, everybody's going to tell Jerry, yeah,
let's go ahead and do this if that's what Jerry
wanted to do.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
Wait.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Wait, there were players on the Cowboys who co signed
on this to get to move on from Michael Parsons.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
That is what Jerry told us yesterday that there are
a player they have a leadership council. Players were contact
and they were they understood it as well. Whether they
were okay with it maybe a distinction.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Without difference, but they were.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
They were understanding why the Cowboys had to make the move.
And look, there have been teammates in Mike has past
and even probably some of the present that have been annoyed.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Might be the.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Best word by some of the things that he's done,
and they all might be little things to degree. Not
putting Dak Prescott in is one of the top quarterbacks
in the NFL. On your podcast, not working the hardest
on the practice field, showing up to the game the
other night eating nachos, lying down on the medical table.
All that stuff might be little stuff, but when you
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start adding all that stuff together, I think teammates again.
For sure, some former guys were just annoyed at times
by Mike Great, but they always understood his production on
the field is what mattered most.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Thank you, Todd, I know you're busy. Thanks for joining us.
Todd Archer ESPN NFL Nation reporter covering the Cowboys since
two thousand and three. Yeah, you're trying to figure this
out where you go? Okay, this makes a lot of sense. Sure,
we're a better team today. It goes back to when
Jerry said they were all in like all in one,
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like all in a pile of bleep? What are you
all in on?
Speaker 10 (27:57):
Yeah, Pauline, I saw your reaction when Todd Archer said
that play on the whatever competition committee that they have
agreed with this trade and Jerry Jones said that to
the media. Do you believe that?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I mean, I'm gonna take Todd at his word, but
I can't imagine Dak Prescott or c d Lamb if
they're part of the leadership committee. Hey, hell yeah, get
rid of him. Let's get worse, I get I don't
understand it. Look, there are personalities that you have to
put up with, and you balance that by production and personality.
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It's like Draymond Green. I would have moved on from
Draymond Green. I don't want to deal with that personality anymore.
When he was great. Okay, I can deal with the personality.
Did Micah Parsons get to the point? And I know
he wasn't universally loved inside that building.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
He was not.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
And yes he has a big mouth. They know all
of these things. Hey, if you know all of these
things and how much is it going to cost you,
then trade him. Trade him in March or April, not now.
Rob Dimofsky, he's been covering the Packers since nineteen ninety seven.
ESPN NFL Nation Reporter, What was your reaction to this trade,
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Dana as.
Speaker 11 (29:12):
The week began.
Speaker 12 (29:13):
Earlier this week, you sort of had an inkling that
this might be a real possibility. In fact, on the
day after the cuts, I asked a couple players in
the locker room about it, and one of those guys
being All Pro safety Xavier McKinney, who just so happens to.
Speaker 11 (29:26):
Have the same agent as Michael Parsons.
Speaker 12 (29:29):
It was not a coincidence that I went up to him,
but Xavier first he looked at me and said, I'm
not talking about that, and I'm like, but you know him, right?
He goes, I know him. He's a great dude. And
that's about all I can say right now, and he
smiled at me. I mean, you know, again, at that point,
we weren't one hundred percent sure that the Packers weren't involved,
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or that the Cowboys were even listening. We know now
that they have been listening for a little while. And
I can tell you this dan from a Packers standpoint.
This all started a week or so ago, maybe a
little longer, and Brian Kudakuza, general manager, this is what
I was told, walked into Matt Lafleur's office and asked
his coach, would you want Micah Parsons? And Lafleur goes, well,
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of course, and then it took off from there.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
How does this not work out for the Packers?
Speaker 12 (30:18):
You know, if obviously at Parsons gets hurt, you know,
it's it's a disaster, right because you've paid them all
this money.
Speaker 11 (30:26):
You don't have your draft picks, you.
Speaker 12 (30:28):
Know, as long as Micah Parsons is the Micah Parsons
that we've seen for the last four years. I mean,
this is a team dan that has not had a player,
a single player with double digit sacks in a season
since the year before Michah Parsons came into the NFL.
Their last double digit sack guy was Zadarius Smith, and
I believe it was twenty twenty. You know, Rashan Gary
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is a former first round pick, a good pass rusher
that they then gave a second contract too, but quite frankly,
has not been as good as they would have hoped.
I'm sure they think the addition of Michael Parsons not
only gives Michael gives them Michael Parsons, but it also
takes some of the double teams and the attention away
from Rashaan Gary. I do think, you know, Todd mentioned
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some of the Todd Archer mentioned some of the things
that go with Michaeh Parsons. I did talk to somebody
this morning in the league who thought, you know what,
maybe there is some of that, but this is for
this being Green Bay is the perfect place for them,
Like it's all about football here.
Speaker 11 (31:25):
Yes, he's got a little bit of an entourage, but
so does everybody now.
Speaker 12 (31:29):
And that the Packers infrastructure, you know, their their player development,
player engagement, security guys. They have the infrastructure to make
this work. And you know, I don't think the Packers
would have done it if they didn't feel like that
was a big concern.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
And this this has been kind of Unpacker. Like you
take a wide receiver in the first round, Well, you
take a big swing and you go Michaeh Parsons and
you know it. Have the Packers have they changed their philosophy?
Speaker 12 (31:57):
Yeah, it's it's a great question, and I think the
answer is yes. And I think it goes back to
a couple of things. One on January sixteenth, that was
four days after the Packers lost to the Eagles in
the playoffs, Brian Goudikunz, the general manager, said in front
of us at the podium, it's time we start competing
for championships.
Speaker 11 (32:15):
And then he does what you said, drafts, Matthew Golden.
Speaker 12 (32:18):
The last time they drafted a first round receiver here
was twenty one years ago. And then I think there's
another factor at play here, and that's the change in presidents.
You know, the Packers don't have an owner, they have
a team president. And that team president now is ED
Policy because the former president, Mark Murphy, reached the organization's
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mandatory retirement age of seventy And for those people who
don't know ED Policy but think they know that name
sounds familiar, it's Carman. Policy's son. Carmon ran the forty
nine Ers for a long time, made a lot of
bold moves out there, you know, moved on from Bill Wallash,
moved on from Joe Montana. And when we met with
ED Policy in the earlier the summer for the first time,
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we talked about how, you know, he watched his dad
make these bold moves that almost always, not always, but
almost always turned out for the better at the back
end of it.
Speaker 11 (33:10):
And I don't know if that policy is necessarily, you know.
Speaker 12 (33:14):
Encouraging them to be more aggressive or those guys just
feel like they can be more aggressive with this type
of leadership.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Great to talk to you, I know you're busy. Thanks
for joining us as always, Rob.
Speaker 11 (33:25):
You got it. Damn let me seeing you.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Rob Demomski, he's been covering the Packers since nineteen ninety seven. Yeah,
I was told that yesterday about Carmen Policy's son, because
Carmen Policy ran the forty nine ers and they made
big swings. They made trades. They weren't afraid, you know,
you're bringing in Steve Young. They weren't afraid to let
Joe Montana go or Bill Walsh go and you gotta
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have That's where it goes back to being indecisive. Packers
were not we're taking a wide receiver first round. We're
gonna make a big swing for Micah Parsons, whereas the
Cowboys have been indecisive. You know, they were indecisive with
Dak leading up to that, you know, first Sunday in
the NFL season, where hey, we agreed to this contract.
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They were indecisive about Michael Parsons unless they you can
say they were decisive. They decided that back in March
that they weren't going to sign him. That was the
final offer. Okay, But then carry it on through and
if you're the Cowboys, why stop here? Why not see
if somebody wants ceedee lamb, why not say to the Rams, hey,
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would you like Dak Prescott? Can we have Matthew Stafford?
And you're going to get Matthew Stafford for one year.
I mean, I'm just throwing out stuff. You're not beating
the Eagles. How are you going to beat the Eagles? Well,
stockpiled draft picks, just like you did with the Herschel
Walker deal. If you're all in on, we're not going
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to pay, We're going to get draft picks. You're either
in or out. And that would be the only thing
I would say. If you're going to do something, then
I would say keep doing something. But they won't because
Jerry still needs shiny objects there. There have to be
guys you want to come out and see Ceedee Lamb,
Dak Prescott digs. Okay, but I mean, at what point
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do you say? And then you got a rookie coach like,
oh my god. But is Edwarder, the great reporter who's
been there for I don't know how long Ed's been
there for thirty years. You just sent a tweet you
do not trade Micah Parsons not a week before the
season opener, and never to the Packers. Yep, he's right,
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but I know that they were trying. Okay, the leverage
that I was told this, I'm allowed to say this.
I had two conversations off the record yesterday and which
doesn't help me in being a radio host, but it
did kind of help me understand sort of what was
going on. But yet they were going to Their leverage
was we're going to make you pay play on that
fifth year option, and then we're going to franchise you.
(36:10):
And they were just trying to get him to agree
to the initial agreement because Jerry was all about loyalty.
We shook on this and we were going to pay him,
you know, forty point five million dollars a season or
whatever it was. And Michael Parson said, I don't have
my agent here. I'm not agreeing to anything. There's no
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contract here. And then all of a sudden you realize, michah,
don't negotiate. Look at what these contracts are going to
be for guys at your position. You're going to be
able to get forty five million dollars. It turns out
he gets forty seven. That's how this thing's happened. I
think we got an agreement sort of, let me bring
in my agent, and then all of a sudden, the
agent's probably like, no, no, don't do this. This is
(36:54):
what we're going to make trust me on this, and
then Jerry probably never forgave Michael Parson for you know,
renegging on you know their agreement, because I bought the
Cowboys with a handshake agreement. All right, Times have changed.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
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The Eagles Cowboys bedding line opening night next Thursday, seven
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he did, how much he would play and would even
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He is Vince Young, former Texas quarterback and won a
national championship back in five I've beating USC Heisman Trophy
runner up and has a podcast It's called The Stampede
the Texas Longhorns. It's a weekly show. It's Vince, former
(38:10):
coach Mac Brown and stories that you haven't heard before.
Go to the stampedeut dot com to subscribe. There he
is Vince Young joining us on the program. Can you
relate to the pressure that arch Manning is gonna face
coming up this season?
Speaker 13 (38:29):
Yes, a lot of it, but he's ready for it.
Speaker 8 (38:34):
He's ready for it. He's definitely ready for it.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Okay, what do you see in him so far? Because
it's been a small sample size that leads you to
believe he's ready for this.
Speaker 13 (38:46):
Well, just being around him, the way he carriesself. He
has that I respect you kind of attitude. Character like
it's about my teammates. He has fun, he's goofy, silly.
He even challenged me one day. I was throwing the
ball to my son on the football field and he
was like, v why do you still got it?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
It's like, what good one?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Good one?
Speaker 8 (39:13):
So that type of things right there, just to show
me what type of person he is.
Speaker 13 (39:17):
And you know a lot of people don't understand when
you have two uncles and a dad as in your
family that went through it all and you was a
kid just sitting behind the scenes watching it and learning it,
even getting small words from your uncle and dad. You
know that resonates for you as you get older. As
a kid, so you can see it in him and
(39:37):
I can feel it too when he talks and how
you carry himself.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
How successful were you against Eli and Peyton?
Speaker 13 (39:44):
Pretty pretty successful? I mean me and Peyton went at
it because we had to play him twice twice a year,
and yeah, I think I'm undefeated against Eli. I got
Eli a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Okay, yeah, But when you see Peyton, do you see
Arch more like Eli or Peyton or neither neither?
Speaker 13 (40:07):
You know, I feel like he has the traits. I
think he has that big head like his uncle, but.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
He doesn't run like his uncles.
Speaker 13 (40:17):
He don't run like his uncle, And I feel like
he has his own swag, it has his own character.
Especially with this generation. You can tell with this generation,
these guys, you know, they have a little bit more
fun with their teammates, and which is a good thing
because of the fact, like, in order to win on
the level that he's on at Texas, you got to
(40:38):
have a little bit more chemistry and more character with
your guys. And you can see that with the whole
entire Texas team.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
If you ran a forty against Arch, who's winning?
Speaker 8 (40:49):
He got me right now?
Speaker 13 (40:50):
He does unless he give me a week or two
to warm up, and it takes that long for me
to warm up right now.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
But you could run a forty in four to six.
Speaker 13 (40:58):
I can get it by into four to six and
not just coming out the stands or something like that. No,
I won't get it if they give me like the hours.
Speaker 9 (41:07):
In the back.
Speaker 13 (41:07):
Yeah, give me a hot tub and some cold tub
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Then Yeah, what highlight comes to mind when you think
of your career looking back? What's what's the one highlight
you want fans to remember?
Speaker 8 (41:20):
Oh? Man, my favorite is I graduated. You know.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Oh cool.
Speaker 13 (41:25):
A lot of people didn't in my neighborhoods and my
peers and the doughters didn't think that I was going
to finish uh with that piece of paper. So that's
one of my major highlights, uh for my entire family
because I was the first to graduate, and then I
set the tone for my kids as well to go
and get your degree as well.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I'm talking to Vince Young, former Texas quarterback won a
national championship in five And it's called The Stampede, a
podcast on the Texas Longhorn. So it's a weekly show
hosted by Vince with Mac Brown and called the stamped
Heed on stampedeut dot com to subscribe take me in
(42:05):
the huddle National title game USC and Mac Brown sends
in the play, what is the play when you run
for the touchdown?
Speaker 13 (42:15):
The play is menu too, So it's something we ran
just about it all the time. It was one of
our top plays that we ran that I felt like
a lot of people couldn't stop it. We was very
successful in it percentage wise, and before we left Austin,
coaching coach Brown and coach Greg Davis office and coordinator
at the.
Speaker 8 (42:32):
Time was if the game was on the line, what play?
Speaker 13 (42:35):
What play would you call? And me being where I
am is quarterback sneak. You know, I walked the ball
in my hands and you know, coaches us this is
why coaches, coach and players play.
Speaker 8 (42:45):
They was like, while what we just call a pass
play and.
Speaker 13 (42:48):
It gives you both options and show enough. It happened
just how we talked about it before we left Austen.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
It felt like they had a spy, but the spy
wasn't fast enough to well.
Speaker 13 (43:01):
First of all, you know, they ran that blitz a
couple of times, that strong, strong blitz a couple of times,
and all our guys did was stay at home, did
what they were supposed to do. And then Selvin Young
did what he's supposed to do. If there's nobody there,
run your route, and he ran his route to the
point that he got Rutger to focus on him just
enough for me to take off with the ball. So,
(43:24):
you know, a lot of people give me a lot
of credit for that play, but I give a lot
of credit to my old line and so Man Young
for doing everybody doing their job. And you know, I
can find that that spy guy for me.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Best player you played against.
Speaker 13 (43:38):
That's player, and just in college or pros, just period period.
Oh man, it's a couple of names out there, Dad Reed,
Uh yeah, A j Hawk at Ohio State game that was,
oh my butt the whole time. Troup Polamala, unbelievable player,
(44:04):
Big Harrison Pittsburgh still lives, d Lion.
Speaker 8 (44:07):
Yeah, it's a long list.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
James is he crazy?
Speaker 9 (44:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (44:12):
He dunky.
Speaker 13 (44:13):
I don't know if if I remember that he he
slapped my butt in that game.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Did you say anything?
Speaker 3 (44:21):
I was pretty pissed.
Speaker 8 (44:22):
I didn't say nothing to him.
Speaker 13 (44:23):
I was pretty pissed at the referees for allowing it
to happen.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
It looked like WWE exactly.
Speaker 13 (44:31):
So I was like, man, I need to get my
weight up, I need to small potatoes. He just made
that look so easy.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Did you ever think about asking for the heisman when
Bush had it taken away?
Speaker 8 (44:44):
No, they tried to give it to me.
Speaker 13 (44:46):
Uh, but you know, I didn't want to take it
because of the fact that he wanted.
Speaker 8 (44:49):
Fair and square.
Speaker 13 (44:50):
So you know, Reggie was a dynamic player and it
was a great individual character guy that I appreciate even
that to this day when we have opportunities come together
and do things together.
Speaker 8 (45:01):
He's just a fun person. And he wanted fairy.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Square because he wanted on the field, is what you're saying.
Speaker 8 (45:08):
He definitely wanted on the field for sure.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, if the.
Speaker 13 (45:11):
Heisman was probably after then I probably shore. I think
we probably would have they would have caved it to me.
But he earned a very fairy square for sure.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
But you didn't have a chip on your shoulder going
into the national title game.
Speaker 13 (45:24):
Yeah, I was pissed off a little, and I was
definitely upset because I wanted to bring that heusman back
to Austin because you know, Earl Campbell and Ricky Williams wanted.
You know, a lot of people don't understand that the
Heisman Trophy, it's not just an individual accolade.
Speaker 8 (45:40):
It's actually a team award.
Speaker 13 (45:42):
So I really wanted to bring that back home to
Austin and then so we can have three Heisman Trophies
at the University of Texas.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah, but you got the national title and you'd rather
have a national title than a Heisman.
Speaker 13 (45:52):
Yeah, and we needed that because I think it was
thirty seven years before we had a championship. So we
definitely need to bring that trophy back to Austin, Texas,
in the state of Texas.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
As Matthew McConaughey ever suggested to put you in a movie.
Speaker 13 (46:07):
I haven't tapped him on the shoulder yet about that yet,
but it's coming. Oh it is, I will there's some
things that I that's working underneath the radar. But you know,
for him to mentor Bjeon right now, I thought that
was pretty cool because Bijeon wants to get into acting
when he's done playing, and well while he's playing, and
(46:29):
for him for Matthew to give him guidance on that,
you know, I should have took advantage of that a.
Speaker 8 (46:36):
Long time ago.
Speaker 13 (46:36):
But you know, I'm happy that he's doing that for
a lot of the you know, young athletes out there
that want to get probably involved with in the movies.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
You on the sidelines on Saturday.
Speaker 13 (46:47):
Oh yeah, I don't too much. Let my loanhorn go
to any places without me.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Now does Sarkesian? Has he ever asked you for advice?
Speaker 13 (46:58):
I spoke to the team before, you know, kind of
give them, you know, things that they should work on,
things that they should focus on, understanding the tradition of
the University of Texas, you know, things like that. You know,
I enjoy doing that, but most time I don't. I
don't bother coach. I just like being around him. He's
a great coach, pretty good coach. He's down to earth,
(47:20):
you know. I like talking to him about the USC
games and talking football. You know, he played at by
U quarterback. You know, we kind of in the same
position because we played in the same you know, same
the same position.
Speaker 8 (47:33):
So it's always cool to be around coach Star.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
And sark was there at USC when you won the
national title.
Speaker 13 (47:38):
Yeah, so you know we had to ask him, why
did you why you didn't have Reggie Bush in the
game on that that play.
Speaker 8 (47:44):
Everybody wanted to know that.
Speaker 13 (47:46):
So that was the first question I had to ask
when I first met him, when he came to Texas
and you know, came to head coach at the University
of Texas.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Well, I have fun in Columbus. Hopefully they treat you
nice and good luck with the podcast bench.
Speaker 13 (47:59):
Yeah, hopefully they had treat me. Like you said, it's
gonna be really wild out there. But thanks man, I'm
glad to have opportunity to chat. Which is good to
see you.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
That's Vince Young, former Texas quarterback. He was the six
NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year, two time Pro Bowl
quarterback as well. I'm hearing from USC fans. Why do
you have Vince Young on?
Speaker 9 (48:19):
I go?
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Why are you so sensited? I mean, I have Matt
Weinert on, Well, I have Lyndale White on if you
want to nice, Yes, Todd.
Speaker 11 (48:30):
We've had San Chaz, Reggie, but we've had plenty of
USC cousin.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
I know, but Vince Young ran in the touchdown and
they'd lost the nation.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
They'll have to get over it. There was two thousand
and five.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Oh coming from you getting over so like thirty nine
ten super Bowls, The Stampede Podcast, The Texas Longhorns with
Vince and Mac Brown. You can go to the Stampede
ut dot com to subscribe. Uh seea and Albert Querque. Hi, Deanna, Hello, Hi.
Speaker 9 (49:05):
I'd like to weigh in for my husband Ryan six
four two thirty five. He's a diehard fan and then
listening to y'all forever and it's his birthday today and.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
His name is Ryan Ryan. Okay, here we go three two?
Speaker 9 (49:22):
What ball?
Speaker 10 (49:23):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (49:23):
Just getting the crescendo.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Oh you were, Oh you were being the conductor there.
You had your hands up. I thought I was like
a stop sign there, Happy birthday to go down.
Speaker 9 (49:40):
That was awesome that I just make his his day.
His leak A huge fan, and he says I remind
him of a fritzy. He calls me his little fritzy.
I seem not a compliment.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
That's not that's unfortunately, that is not. Oh yes, I
see so I hate to break this out. Yes, thank
you though you did it. You did your job, Deanna.
But have a great weekend. Thanks for joining us. Let's
see Jacob in Oklahoma. Hi, Jake, what's on?
Speaker 14 (50:11):
Your mind today, Hey Dan, first time caller, a longtime listener.
One point seven meters eighty kilgrams. Okay, and it's very
horm my muscles at least. Of course, I don't think
you could talk about getting over anything. You just celebrated
(50:32):
your Finder anniversary with the Baigo incident, so I don't
know if that's really something you've been doing, and you
kind of touched on it. But Michael Parsons, I've seen
him a couple of times in person, and I've.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Kind of been underwhelmed.
Speaker 14 (50:49):
It just seems like his effort is kind of hit
or miss. I know Jerry should have signed Mike a
long time ago, but with forty seven middle a year,
I I kind of got to defend Garry a little bit.
I mean, it's not like he was gonna win anything
going for it. He's probably still not going to.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
And look, Jacob, I understand that. I think he got
to a point where he was too expensive and there
was some you know, kind of leftover scar tissue. But
do it in March. If you're going to hold a
grudge against him because he didn't agree to that deal
that was a handshake agreement, then trade him. If you're
going to do something for the betterment of the franchise,
(51:30):
then do it back then. That way you can bring
in other teams. Everybody's got their draft picks. Micah Parsons
is available. Come on down. Who's interested. But thank you
for the phone call.
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