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September 2, 2025 40 mins

Dan talks to UNC insider Luke DeCock about the absolute beatdown Bill Belichick’s Tar Heels received at the hands of TCU yesterday. And NFL insider Albert Breer stops in to preview Week 1 of the NFL season and weighs in on the Micah Parsons trade.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final hour in this Tuesday, we're doing best and worst
of the weekend. We weren't here yesterday. We'll get to
more of your phone calls.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Coming up.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We'll check in with North Carolina Football Howl's morale the
Monday morning. Quarterback Albert Breer will stop by as well.
We got Thursday night NFL season kicks off, the rivalry
game the Eagles and the Cowboys NFL Kickoff presented by
YouTube Thursday seven Eastern, non NBC and Peacock eight seven

(00:32):
seven three. DP show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter
handle at DP show poll question for the.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Final hour of the program, Mara Seaton, what do you
have for me?

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah, we got a couple of them up there right
now which coverage did not match the reality. Bill Belichick
or Arch Manning. Right now, Bill Belichick has a guess
holding strong at about sixty four percent of that vote.
We also put up there who had the best weekend
the Miami hurricane means Florida State, LSU or Lee Corso.
Right now, Lee Corso's got fifty six percent of the

(01:05):
non Lee Corso options. Florida State running away with that,
running away with it.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
It was an impressive performance. And it's one of those
where he goes this about Florida State, are about Alabama.
It's about both because you're seeing that maybe that two
win season last year was an anomaly and aberration, that
they will have good players. They got a really good
quarterback and a quarterback who had a lot of things
to chirp about during the offseason about Alabama that Saban's

(01:32):
not there and you can't stop me. You can only
hope to contain me. But they dominated the offense and
defensive lines. That's college football. Offense and defensive lines. College football,
you're going to get. There's enough skill position players to
go around for everybody, but the difference is offensive and
defensive lines. Brandon in Tallahassee Hi Brandon, right on cue.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
What do you have for me?

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Hey? DP?

Speaker 6 (01:59):
So I have a best of the weekend and then
I needed some travel suggestions for a trip I have
planned next month. The best of the weekend I was
in attendance to see FSU manhandle Alabama. It was a
little exciting game I've ever been a part of us.
And then next month my girl and I are flying
out to Stanford to see the Seminoles, take on to

(02:19):
fighting Andrew Luck, and we'll be staying. We'll be staying
in San Francisco.

Speaker 7 (02:24):
And I just wanted to know if you or Marvin or.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
Any of the day nets had any travel suggestions the
things I need.

Speaker 8 (02:29):
To do or see you all over there.

Speaker 6 (02:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I don't I haven't been San Francisco in a long time.
I don't think I could be a tour guide there.
If you get a chance to go to Napa or Sonoma,
even if you drive around, that's great, but I haven't
been to San Francisco in a long time. If you
can take in a game the San Francisco Giants, if
they're at home, go to that ballpark, that is great.

(02:53):
A lot of great restaurants out there. Maybe you could
track down Buddha's restaurant that's outside of San Francisco. Sean
in Indianapolis, Hi, Sean, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 8 (03:04):
Good morning, Dan. I got a best, worse, and a worser.
The best was spent the weekend out on the lake,
probably the last weekend we'll have out on the boat,
so that was really nice. The worst is Notre Dame
against Miami and just you have the best running back
in the in the country and it barely got any
touches and just the three yard passes downfield. We're not

(03:27):
working and the worser is basically having Lee Corso dominate
me and picks because I was the opposite of every
single one of his.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Thank you, Sean.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I didn't understand Notre Dame's game plan with Jeremiah Love
because I'm tuning in to watch him and all of
a sudden I'm watching him and he not doing anything,
he not even getting the chance to do anything.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Didn't understand it.

Speaker 9 (03:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Patrick in North Carolina? Hi, Patrick, Best and worst of
the weekend?

Speaker 10 (03:58):
Good morning, deep E get mourn to Dan as long
time second time caller.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Love your show from day one.

Speaker 10 (04:07):
First of all, my best of the weekend happened this
morning on my way to work, got out of a
speeding ticket, which I was very glad of. And my
worst of the weekend, of course, was last night.

Speaker 7 (04:19):
The first drive my tarhels put.

Speaker 9 (04:22):
On was outstanding.

Speaker 10 (04:24):
Text day buddy of mine said, hey, we may have
something here. After the seventy five yard run, I said,
going to bed, we're done for the season already.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Thank you, Patrick, turn out the lights, drive home safely,
Robin Orlando, Hi Rob, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 9 (04:43):
Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. As always, best
of the weekend was my worst of the weekend about
one year ago, and that was Florida State after going
to Dublin last year to see them lose live a
nice refreshing victory. And then my other best of the
weekend Courso. I was telling Tyler Man, you know, I
grew up here in Orlando, and I was a kid

(05:05):
when he coached the Orlando Renegade, yeah in the USFL
and then later became neighbors with him and heathrow here
and just absolutely just a solid gentleman of a guy. Man,
And you were totally right with what you said about
herbshree yesterday keeping them going. Man. Appreciate you all. Take care.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Thank you, Ron.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, I thought Herbie did a wonderful job, uh, just
helping coach Corso the last couple of years, helping him
kind of with his opinions, with his picks, and it
didn't go unnoticed. Herby Luke Decock, Raleigh News and Observer
sports columnists for seventeen years covering North Carolina football well,

(05:47):
last time I had you on, I don't know how
optimistic you sounded there, But how's morale in North Carolina today?

Speaker 11 (05:56):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's fair to say that
things did Knako was planned in the Bill Belichick debut
last night. You know, it's funny, the first six minutes
they get out their eighty three yard touchdown drive, very clean,
very crisp three and out on their first defensive series,
and you were like, oh, hey, you know, maybe these
guys did split the atom. And then the next fifty

(06:17):
four minutes looked like pretty much every era of North
Carolina football and the history of North Carolina football. The
talent level, I think is the more disturbing thing than
the coaching. It just, you know, it looked almost like
one of the late David Cutcliffe era duke teams or
where you're just kind of getting beat at every position.
The secondary was full of transfers, it got torn apart.

(06:38):
Their two best offensive players were guys who were holdovers
from the Mac Brown era. It just it did not
look like an acc caliber team. It looked like, you know,
a stew of a bunch of things thrown together hoping
that the celebrity chef could make something out of it.
And you know you're up against an established program with
a philosophy and a foundation and a background. And TCU

(07:00):
did what you would expect them to do. They went
up against the team they didn't know anything about. They
made quick adjustments, effective adjustments, and unc never adjusted. It was,
you know, kind of the debacle. The last time you
and I talked, we're like, how bad could this potentially get?
I think this is how bad it could potentially get.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Okay, it is one game, and I always caution people
whether they're criticizing arch Manning or Alabama or it's one game,
but there can be breadcrumbs that are put down that
you go, I don't know. If I keep following this,
it may end up worse than this. I think the
over under was eight and a half for Carolina. Where

(07:40):
would you stand on that bet today?

Speaker 11 (07:44):
Yeah, I'm still under. I mean I think to get
to nine wins, ten wins, you had to win this one.
That's kind of predicated on getting off to a good start.
You know, you win the TCU game, You've got all
this hype, You've got Michael Jordan, Lawrence Taylor, Mia hamm
Roy Williams.

Speaker 12 (07:59):
Not that Roy miss is a UNC football game.

Speaker 11 (08:01):
But you had the national sports world watching, and you know,
Herb Street and Rhys Davis and Pat McAfee and Herbie's
dog and like everybody on the planet's watching this football game,
and you're trying to capture all this momentum. You had
nine months to prepare. The whys of the world are
on Chapel Hill. You've got all these stuff that they've trademarked,

(08:23):
Chapel Bill and Bill's version and all this stuff, and
then you ought to lay an egg like that. It certainly,
if this was going to be what we had been pitched,
what the UNC boosters and trustees had paid all these
millions of dollars for, it was not going to look
like this.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Off the hot Now.

Speaker 11 (08:37):
Yeah, it doesn't mean that they can't regroup and figure
things out and maybe make some changes in terms of
who's playing and who's on the depth chart. But you know,
the vision that was out there did not start like this.
This was pretty grim, and to be honest, that second half,
you know, TCU comes out scores a seventy five yard
touchdown on the first play, Carolina costs it up for

(08:59):
another TA touchdown. I mean, it's a you know, I
hate to say like a team quit, but it did
look like Carolina ran out of gas physically and emotionally
and just couldn't keep up in the second half. That's
not a great sign in terms of what are the
breadcrumbs in terms of what could work going forward when
you had six minutes of good football that you had

(09:20):
nine months to prepare for and everything else fell apart
after that.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, and that's what I was going to bring up, Luke,
that you had all this time to prepare for this opponent.
You bring in seventy new players. Yes, you have Bill Belichick,
the King of adjustments, and I'm thinking, all right, TCU
is showing some life here. Offensively. Bill will make changes.
He did that famously with the Patriots. I just don't

(09:45):
know if you can ask an eighteen or nineteen or
twenty year old to make adjustments on the fly like
he was asking professionals in New England. And maybe he
didn't have the talent that he thought, because there felt
like a real disparity, you know, in the second half
of the habs and the have nots, And.

Speaker 11 (10:04):
I honestly think it could have been worse than the
first half. There were opportunities for TCU to throw the
ball that they weren't taking because they really were you know,
like it's football, right, We're going to establish the run
game and get our go through our scheme and get
everything set up. And there were chances to take shots
deep against North Carolina Secondary in the first half the
TCU passed on. They did not in the second half,

(10:25):
and that would be the number one thing that would
worry me if I were Bill Belichick, you know, mister defense.
I mean, maybe they just weren't enough lacross players out there,
but the secondary's inability to cover and then the inability
to get pressure. I mean, it was just sort of
a cascading series of failures on defense. And then what
happened at that point the second half is the complete

(10:45):
inability to tackle. So now we've gone from adjustments to
cascading failures to just fundamentals. And if I'm Bill Belichick,
that's what's going to keep me up last night more
than anything, is we put together a roster that not
only can't make the adjustments you're talking about, but can't
do the basic things we need to do just to
win football games.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Talking to Luke de Kott.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
He's a sports columnist Raleigh News and Observer covering North
Carolina football for seventeen years. Clemson at home in five weeks.

Speaker 11 (11:15):
Yeah, I mean, look Charlotte on the road. I mean, now,
it's your first road game, short turnaround from Monday to Saturday.
You got a lot of things you need to fix.
You got a million dollar quarterback who look terrible and
has a sore back. Now there are issues with this team,
even if they had won this game that have to
be resolved before the Charlotte And now look Charlotte struggling

(11:36):
their opener. This is a game that you know, it's
crazy uns He's gone on the road. This game was
set up years ago, as we all know in college football.
But this is no gimme. I mean, they have got
to get out there and find a way to execute
and do the things that they did on that first
drive and failed to do. It was just you know,
the students were leaving, like the third quarter wasn't even

(11:57):
half over. The students were gone by the end of
the third courter a, the boosters who paid for this
were gone.

Speaker 12 (12:02):
I mean, it was just the way.

Speaker 11 (12:03):
That balloon punk was punctured and burst, and that air
just went out of everything. That's tough for players too,
Like they have to get back to where they were
going into this game to play a team that they're
not going to be excited about playing. Forget about Clemson,
I mean that you've got to get ready to play Charlotte,
which is the kind of game that you would say, oh,
this is a potential letdown game. I mean, app State

(12:24):
and East Carolina are always tough games for these schools,
for UNC and Duke in State because those are the
biggest games on the calendar for those teams. And now
Carolina's got to go play in one of those games
against a team that's, you know, like everybody else this
season is going to be really fired up about the
chance to prove itself against Bill Belichick.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
How patient should people be?

Speaker 2 (12:46):
How patient will the Boosters be with Bill?

Speaker 11 (12:49):
Boosters are gonna be patient because they're pot committed. Now
they've got no choice. I mean, they're there, this is
they made this bed, They're gonna have to sleep in it.
I think based on the fan reaction last night, the
patience has already gone. It's it's a little unfair, and look,
Carolina brought this on himself. Bill Belichick brought this on himself.
Michael Lombardi brought this on himself. They talked that they

(13:12):
had untied the college football not they were gonna come in.
They were smarter than everybody else, they were better than
everybody else. And it turned like I'm telling you right now,
Dave dorn Over in Raleigh, the NC State coach last night,
I guarantee you he had a cigar, he had a
solo cup of whiskey. He's got his feet up, he's
laughing his butt off, like these guys just came in.

(13:32):
We are so much better than you. We had this
figured out. We have Super Bowl rings, and they got there.
You know, they got embarrassed in their first college game.
I think the fans saw that too. There was a
very strong element of the Emperor's New closed last night.
You know, I joked in my column, like, you know,
forget the cutoff sleeves. Belichick got pants last night, like

(13:54):
he got exposed, and that, I think, more than anything,
really sort of put a pin in the idea that
that you know, the UNC is going to be in
the CFP and they're going to revolutionize college football, and
you know, they've got a new paradigm. I mean it
was to get beat like that, to be out talented
and out coached and out adjusted and to see what

(14:16):
we've known all on right, TCU out there out there
tweeting an image of the Hulu series and saying when's
the first episode? Like everybody is gunning for these guys
and they were totally unprepared for So I mean, to me,
the patience has already gone. People are just kind of
wondering how bad it's going to be. And again, look,
we talked about this a second ago. This is maybe

(14:36):
not the way the whole season is going to go, right, Like,
you can get better, and if Bill Belichick is the
coach that he says he is and that UNC's boosters
are paying for, they will get better and they will
learn from this. And now they have film and they
know who they can trust in who they can't. But
you know, and if this was John Summral or Jeff
Monkin or any of the other coaches they could have hired,
we all be saying, hey, what did you expect? They

(14:57):
have seventy new players, right, this is turnover. There's going
to be growing pains and this is going to take time.

Speaker 12 (15:02):
But that's not what Bill Belichick said.

Speaker 11 (15:03):
That's not what he promised. They were coming in to
change college football, to be the thirty third NFL team.
And I'm gonna make the same joke I made this
the last time I was with you. Like, yes, this
was very Cleveland Brown's esque. It was very much the
thirty third NFL team.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Just to confirm North Carolina is still a basketball school.

Speaker 11 (15:21):
I mean, the only Jordan that still matters, oh is Michael.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Well, weren't they together with the dignitaries up there all, yeah, Lawrence.

Speaker 11 (15:30):
Taylor and Roy But hey, you know it's to me.
To me, this almost puts more pressure on Hubert Davis
because basketball is gonna have to make up for this.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
You know, the uniform still looked good last night, though, Luke,
that's the most important thing.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Of course. Yes, great to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
I look forward to talking to you maybe after week
five when North Carolina shocks Clemson and then what are
you going to write in your column?

Speaker 9 (15:56):
Then?

Speaker 11 (15:57):
I mean, hey, look man, I'm perfectly compared for my
own come up and so they can turn this around.
But based on the early returns, I don't necessarily think
that's likely. It's certainly possible.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Thank you, Luke.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Luke Decok He is a Raleigh news An observers sports
columnists covering North Carolina football for seventeen years. Yeah, you
want to kind of build up a little grace period
when you take over a team. You know, hey, a
lot of new faces and you know we're still looking
for you know, our next Drake May and you know,
just you.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Can kind of ease in a little bit.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Belichick couldn't ease in no matter what, even if he
said those things. People still have those expectations because your Bill.
But they build up the expectations. By the way, do
you see the press conference area where they had balloons
up behind Bill? It looked like a birthday party for
a four year old at a pizza joint.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yes, it was.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Somebody should have given out darts and thrown it and
popped him.

Speaker 13 (16:54):
If you win, balloons are fine. No one noticed it.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
No, they're not fine. Fine, No, not loons at a
press conference, Yes.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Marvin, Yeah, I was watching it last night.

Speaker 14 (17:04):
All I kept thinking was it's a boy and it
might have been maybe somebody had a gender Rodio.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Oh congrats half.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Of hell al Pacino and Robert de Niro having kids
in their nineties.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
We take a break. Let's take a break, Baddie, Let's
take a break.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Then he bunko from the Bronx.

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Speaking of NFL News Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback
senior NFL reporter who was also at the Ohio State

(18:32):
Texas game, being in Ohio State apologist there, what would
you wait? Okay, your takeaway from arch Manning was what
he's a.

Speaker 16 (18:43):
Kid in his first game as the truth starting quarterback,
his first game against an elite opponent, and I actually
thought he showed some resilience making some big time throws
at the end of the game. There was the one,
There was the one for the touchdown down the right sideline.
There was the one to the tight end down the
left sideline on the final possession of the game.

Speaker 12 (19:05):
So was it perfect? No? I mean, Dan, I just look,
and I've been saying this for four months.

Speaker 16 (19:10):
I just think it's as nine that anybody's projecting him
to be the number one pick in the draft.

Speaker 12 (19:14):
We don't know he might become that, but you know.

Speaker 16 (19:18):
I think there's so little that we've seen at this point,
and scouts will tell you this is like, there's so
little you can take from two starts against a directional
school and what was the worst team in the SEC
last year. You don't know what's going to happen when
he gets knocked around a little bit. You don't know
what's going to happen when teams get five, six, seven
games of tape on him and now they're able to

(19:40):
game plan him. You don't know what's going to happen
when he plays an elite opponent. And this is a
process that all young quarterbacks have to go through.

Speaker 12 (19:48):
And because of his last name, he's.

Speaker 16 (19:49):
Been elevated to this level where the expectations are almost impossible.
I mean, go back and look at like what cam
Ward's first five or six games at Washington State looked
like when he went from Incarnate Word to Washington State.

Speaker 12 (20:02):
Now, this is the guy who became the first pick
in the draft, right and he'd play.

Speaker 16 (20:06):
He had started for two years at a lower level
of college football, and I think there was a I
want to say, a four game stretch where he threw
seven picks. Nobody cared because his last name's Ward, not Manning,
you know.

Speaker 12 (20:19):
So yeah, I think there's a lot of talent there.

Speaker 16 (20:21):
I think the kid's got a great head on his
shoulders by all accounts. Like you know, I talked to
Quinn Yours about him earlier in the offseason, and Quinn
loves him, and that's a kid who would have every
reason not to like him, loves him, you know. And
I've even seen some things that Archie has said that
show a tremendous amount of self awareness, you know, like
where he says things like, you know, I can't wait

(20:41):
to see what it looks like when I have I
throw my first pick, and now everybody goes from thinking
I'm the best player in.

Speaker 12 (20:47):
The world to the worst player in the world.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
You know.

Speaker 12 (20:50):
I think he's got the head and the talent to
work through all this.

Speaker 16 (20:54):
But I think what you saw on Saturday was part
of the process of becoming a big time quarterback.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Will be less patient with Bill Belichick and the results
at North Carolina. What would you say would be it's
one game, obviously, but a little bit more disturbing that
this could be. Yeah, maybe season one, maybe more systemic.

Speaker 16 (21:15):
Yeah, So I would say, you know, I expected them
to lose a game because I just think TCU has
got better players, and the reality is they were at
a talent deficit in that game. That's a well coached team,
you know, Sammy Lubick took them to the National semi
the National championship game, just a few years ago. It's
not some pushover. They were playing in Week one, so

(21:37):
I thought they'd lose. What surprised me was like what
a bleep show it turned into in the third quarter.
And I don't know if you like how much you
have the game he watched him, but to me, the
third quarter it was, I mean, it was like almost
bad news bears ish. Maybe I'm dating myself a little
bit with that reference, but you know, the first play
from scrimmage is seventy five yard touchdown. On the second possession,

(22:01):
they convert third and twenty with a steam route right
down Main Street, and then you know, the running back
scores in the next play untouched from twenty eight yards out,
you know, and then you had that the fumble return
for a touchdown a little.

Speaker 12 (22:13):
Bit after that.

Speaker 16 (22:15):
It just it felt like the team wasn't prepared, you know,
to come out of the locker room for the second half.

Speaker 12 (22:23):
And that was what was alarming to me about it.

Speaker 16 (22:25):
It wasn't It wasn't again, it wasn't that they lose
the game. I thought they'd lose the game. It was
the way that it looked towards the end. And so,
you know, I think Bill knows he's got a lot
of work to do, But that was something I think
you wouldn't expect from a Bill Belichick coach team, regardless
of how long or short he's been in a place.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Okay, you're not reporting this, but if I said, if
you were going to bet on this, what is Bill
Belichick doing a year.

Speaker 12 (22:51):
From now coaching North Carolina?

Speaker 5 (22:54):
Okay?

Speaker 16 (22:55):
Yeah, I think, like I mean, look like there's seventy
new players. I think that's the number, right, Yeah, Okay,
So Dion Sanders went through this two years ago of
Colorado and I think Dion, if I remember, I didn't
he beat TCU in his first game, isn't that right?

Speaker 12 (23:10):
But then what was their record?

Speaker 3 (23:11):
I think they won more four games?

Speaker 12 (23:15):
Right, So, like Dion eventually got there.

Speaker 16 (23:18):
But I think some people looked at that and underestimated,
like what a herculean task it is to turn over
that much of the of the roster when you're.

Speaker 12 (23:28):
Dealing with like nineteen twenty twenty one year old.

Speaker 16 (23:30):
Kids, you know, and maybe Bill, you know, like underestimated
that what the what the task there would be. But
that's a really serious overhaul of a college program. And
I think you know now it's the benefit of having
like at least a game of evidence of it. It

(23:51):
might have been too much to ask, to ask for
a really great performance right out of the gate.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Talking Albert Brier, the Monday Morning Quarterbacks senior NFL reporter,
how many teams teams were in play for Micah Parsons.

Speaker 16 (24:04):
I think the number was it was six, and at
the very end maybe less, but there were six that
were involved, and you know, the Cowboys took what they
felt like was the best offer. Now, I think that
the thing that people are missing here, and I think
this is a really interesting nuance to it, is that

(24:24):
there's a bigger picture thought here for Dallas in what
they're doing. And I'm not going to tell you that
they didn't want to resign Micah. They did, but when
things broke down in the spring, they had a series
of conversations about like, okay, like what are we trying
to do here. We haven't been to an NFC championship game,
let alone in a Super Bowl in twenty nine years.

Speaker 12 (24:43):
That's the third longest drought in the NFL.

Speaker 16 (24:47):
Yet we've I think their top ten, top seven or
eight maybe.

Speaker 12 (24:50):
And wins over that same period.

Speaker 16 (24:53):
So You've been consistently really good, but never good enough,
right like at the end, you know, and I think they,
you know, with a new head coach now, Brian Schottenheimer
started to look in the mirror a little bit about it,
you know, and.

Speaker 12 (25:06):
It was like, okay, like, so, if we are going.

Speaker 16 (25:10):
To get to a point where we're going to trade
Micah Parsons, is there some sort of pivot we want
to make here? And that pivot wound up being we
want to like really lean in on what Brian Schottenheimer's
trying to build here, which you've heard him use the
phrase the greatest culture in professional sports, and maybe that's
a little bit hyperbole, but like that's the idea of what.

Speaker 12 (25:28):
They're trying to do there.

Speaker 16 (25:30):
And then you look at their first two draft picks
in April, and it was two guys who are just
middle of the fairway from a makeup and character standpoint,
and Tyler Booker from Alabama and Donovan Azeraku from Boston College,
really productive college players who are really great people. And
then you look at what Dallas did here right like,
which not all six of the teams had two first

(25:51):
round picks on the on the table, but the rough
ask was two first round picks and a player that
can be useful for us, and the Cowboys actually asked
for Kenny Clark, and I think the Packers were taken
aback a little bit by that, thinking like, well, they
lost DeMarcus Lawrence, they they're losing Michael Parsons here. We
thought maybe they'd want an edge player and Packers people

(26:11):
were heartbroken like losing.

Speaker 12 (26:13):
Kenny Clark right.

Speaker 16 (26:15):
The reason why is because the person he is, and
I think that that was a huge part. That was
a huge part of why Dallas asked specifically for him,
because it's leaning into what they're trying to build and
leaning into that whole we're gonna have the greatest culture
in the NFL thing, and maybe that'll be the difference
maker for us.

Speaker 12 (26:32):
Now we'll work, we'll see.

Speaker 16 (26:34):
But in drafting Booker and drafting as Iraku and now
bringing in Kenny Clark, I think they're kind of looking
at it and saying, how can we make the locker
room the best locker room in the NFL, and how
can we empower Dak Prescott to be the leader of
the team. And we'll see how all that works out.
But Michael Parsons didn't really fit into that. Now, again,

(26:54):
they wanted to resign them. I'm not saying they didn't
want to resign them, but the idea was, if we
do move on from this guy, what are we going
to do?

Speaker 12 (27:00):
And I think you see a pretty clear.

Speaker 16 (27:02):
Vision for what they're going to do on the field
with the run stopping stuff that they've said a million
times now.

Speaker 12 (27:07):
But also off the field.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, I mean, you don't bring in George Pickens if
you're talking about the locker room.

Speaker 12 (27:12):
Yeah, but that's for a year.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Okay, But I mean, okay, now you can stop the run? Now,
can you stop the pounds?

Speaker 12 (27:20):
You know?

Speaker 16 (27:20):
You and I understand, and I understand there's a lot
of that right like in the Pickens things. That's a
good rebuttal there's no question like that's a big risk
for them, you know, But that's for a year and
you'll see where that goes. And in the meantime, like
they are able to take that money and sign some
of their own guys, you know, I mean Deron Blans

(27:42):
one who's got got done over the last couple of days.
Tyler Smith's another, you know, you know, a real like
foundation piece for them. On the offensive line that they
plan to resign, Like these things would be more difficult
if you had Micah Parsons making between forty five and
fifty million dollars a year. So again, I think there's
just sort of a big picture idea here in the

(28:03):
way that they're going.

Speaker 12 (28:04):
To handle it.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
But Kenny Clark helps you now, but you don't need
help now. He's not the future. You're getting two first
round picks. I mean, how did Jamal Adams got three?
There was three first round picks for Jamal Adams for
the Jets. I just don't understand. If I look at
some of these other players who've been traded, defensive players, Yeah,

(28:27):
you got a lot more for these guys.

Speaker 16 (28:29):
And I think that that like that to me as
another valid criticism is like, if you were talking about
this in March and April right then you should have
created the.

Speaker 12 (28:40):
Tension point with your player then.

Speaker 16 (28:42):
And I think that that piece of it, to me,
is really important because if you are putting Micah Parsons
on the market in March and April, there's way more
of a market for him. It's tough to trade a
guy right before the start of the season. Teams budgets
are set, their caps are set, their rosters are set.

(29:03):
Like when you're talking about bringing in a player of
this magnitude, like that's that's a big thing. The capital
that you got to fork over for them, and the
contract you got to fork over, like that's a lot.
And if you're looking at the idea of this and
you say you put them on the market in March
or April, well then you're probably going to have more

(29:24):
teams involved because more teams are going to you know,
sort of have stayed loose at that point with an
ability to pivot and make moves at certain positions that
you wouldn't be able to make in the summer. And
then you know, like you're also the other benefit of
doing it then is that you're actually going to get
one of those picks on your team this year, you
know what I mean. Like, so instead of having to

(29:44):
wait until twenty six and twenty seven to have those
guys in your team, like whatever picks you get in
twenty five, now those teams, those guys are going to
help you right now. So I think that's a very
valid criticism that they shouldn't have let this thing linger.
They shouldn't have let it go through camp. One percent
of them with you on that, Like, that's a fair
criticism and they should have reached this tension point with
Michael Parsons and David Mulligetta and all the people in

(30:07):
that camp way earlier than they did.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
You got your Super Bowl pick.

Speaker 12 (30:14):
I can't remember who I picked, and I don't want
to go again.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
It was.

Speaker 12 (30:19):
Buffalo, and who do I pick? I can tell how
much work I put into this stand how much I uh.

Speaker 16 (30:27):
I picked Buffalo and the Rams.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I think even with it Stafford's back, I think.

Speaker 12 (30:35):
The Rams are gonna be really good, and I think.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Devanta Adams, Oh, I think they're going to be good.
But I'm I'm only worried about Matthewson. They go as
Matthew Stafford goes.

Speaker 16 (30:44):
Yeah, they do, And I think I think Matthew's back
is going to be all right. Just the people that
I've talked to there the AGA, I'm not minimizing like
what he's dealing with.

Speaker 12 (30:55):
He's definitely dealing with a serious injury. But they felt
like they could have thrown him out there early in camp.

Speaker 16 (31:03):
And this was more about Matthew's only got so many
bullets left in the gun, and we don't need to
be firing those bullets in the first week of August
or the second week of August, especially when Jimmy Garoppolo
is on the bench and he can come in and
run our offense at a starting caliber level, so the
other ten guys in the huddle can get all the
reps that they need running our offense.

Speaker 12 (31:25):
To get ready for the season.

Speaker 16 (31:26):
So, you know, I that was sort of the approach
that they took, like until he's one hundred percent, we're
not going to put him out there, and they got
very close to that, you know, and before putting him
out there. And Matthew has managed these things too, like
he's had you know, I think from all the damage
he took over the years in Detroit, Like as extential
injuries for a quarterback are wrist and elbow, so you know,

(31:50):
back is definitely not good for an older guy. But
he's managed this sort of thing in the past, and
I personally think like they'll be able to manage him
through the through the season, and they've got a damn
good team around him. Like I think if you look
at the young talent on that team and the job
that they've done moving out of like the Aaron Donald,
Jalen Ramsey, Cooper Cup era. They've done a really really

(32:11):
nice job of reworking that roster. I think they're going
to be right in it till the end.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Tampa Bay Bandwagon's starting to fill up in first class.

Speaker 12 (32:20):
I like the Bucks too.

Speaker 16 (32:21):
I mean, the amazing thing about the Bucks if you
look at the roster, the number of guys that are
homegrown and the depth they have there, and the way
that they've been able to kind of go from the
Brady era group. It's the same thing I was talking
about the Rams and then draft and develop young guys
and and and get a year ahead of things like

(32:45):
like a Mecca Abuka might be not might might not
be a big might not fill a big need for
them right now with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin coming
back off the injury, but that's going to be a
big need in a year or two in all likelihood, right,
So you get that taken care of now. They've done
a really good job of restocking their roster. Having Ziona
Column ready to go. As Carlton Davis was walking out

(33:07):
the door, you know, like they've just done a really
good job of continuing to I mean churn that roster
where when older players are on their way out they
have an answer. And and I think Baker Mayfield is
pretty underrated too.

Speaker 12 (33:25):
I think I think Baker's got a chance to have
a dynamite year.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Always great to talk to you. Thank you, Albert, all.

Speaker 16 (33:31):
Right, Thanks Dan, and by the way, thanks for the
fantasy draft. Your secret is safe with us. I will
say that we took every precautionary to make sure of it.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yes, some of those team names. You wouldn't want me
saying that around your wife, would you?

Speaker 12 (33:44):
But you can see you can say mine, right I could?

Speaker 3 (33:47):
They have all these descriptive names. Albert Albert's fantasy league.
Albert's team is called Albert's Team.

Speaker 16 (33:54):
That's because when we changed platforms, I forgot to read it,
so mine wasn't very good before that.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Either everybody has some wild inappropriate name and then his
is Albert's team.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (34:06):
I think that was Yahoo.

Speaker 16 (34:08):
I think that was the automatic Yahoo I name that
they slapped on it.

Speaker 12 (34:11):
Thanks, but but everybody appreciated it was really good.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Albert Breer, the Monday Morning quarterback senior NFL reporter, take
a break last call for phone calls what we learned
once in store, tomorrow, this day in sports History, right
after this.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
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Speaker 2 (34:35):
I was told that there were six teams at least
kicking the tires on trading for Micah Parsons, and then
Albert Breer back that up with his sources. I don't
know to what extent, but it was some teams didn't
have a run stopper that Dallas desperately wanted. But I'd
still rather have three first round picks than Kenny Clark.

(34:59):
He's he was a Pro Bowl player, but he's a
good player, and you know is by all accounts a
really good person in the locker room. But if I'm
building for the future, I get what point. I mean,
why not trade Dak Prescott. I don't know who wants him,
But if you know, if you're moving towards the future,

(35:21):
then move to the future. I just don't think you
want to get stuck in that no man's land where
you're winning seven eight games. You're not gonna You're not
gonna improve enough. You almost have to be bad to
get better to get these picks and get better picks.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
You're gonna get.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Green Bay's picks, and if everybody plays well in green Bay,
those picks are going to be in late twenties.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yes, Paulin, We've always.

Speaker 13 (35:44):
Talked about that with the NBA, that no man's land
of maybe just being on the cusp of the playoffs. Yeah,
but not threatening.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Michael Irvin will join us on the program tomorrow. The
popular host with the NFL Network, Kyle Brandt, will stop by.
Always fun to talk to him. Glenn and San Diego. Glenn,
thanks for holding best and worst to the weekend.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Hey Dan, how are you doing guys?

Speaker 8 (36:07):
Yeah, the gleek Courser retirement.

Speaker 17 (36:09):
No, it's not only amazing, but the fact that he
hits six for six yep, for he bets one hundred
dollars bet would a one year ten grand and all
the college teams he coached that played one fun yep.

Speaker 9 (36:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
I mentioned that earlier in the show, and it was
a fitting tribute. I was very happy that he got
that moment. And he went in with an Ohio State
game and he leaves with an Ohio State game.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Mike and La. Hi Mike, what's on your mind?

Speaker 12 (36:37):
Dan?

Speaker 7 (36:38):
Quick question about the baseball playofferation? And then I put
comment on mister Herb Street. If you had to pick
a team between the Reds, the Giants, and the Dbacks
right now to catch the Mets. If you think somebody
can catch the Mets, who would it be?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Well, I'll take the Reds because I trust their manager.
But you know that I don't know, well if any
of those teams I would have a lot of faith in.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
What's your Kirk Kirb Street comment?

Speaker 7 (37:07):
Well, I love it when Kirk he used to always
take his Golden Retriever with him everywhere on the road,
in the hotel, when he do the broadcast. I just
didn't know if a lot of people knew that. They
did make a bit of a deal about it on
the phone when his dog passed away that long ago.
I just thought it was a really cool thing that
Kirk did because I'm a big dog love.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah, that was great.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
And he's got his new dog, and there's a picture
of his new pup in the fountain at North Carolina.
As soon as they got on campus, dog went right
into the fountain. Let's see how about Dane in Texas.
Hi Dane, what's on your mind?

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Good morning Dan.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
I've got a best and worst, plus the nomination for
the best college quarterback. Okay, my best, my best Joey
Aguilar or Joey Aguila from the way he played against
Syracuse University of Tennessee. Also love him because we share
the same last name. Worst. I went to both Notre

(38:05):
Dame and Texas terrible weekend, lost them both. I should
have won at least one of those games. Yeah, my
nominee for best quarterback. The Dan Netts won't remember him,
but you will, and it was James Street. He went
twenty to ozho for the University of Texas, won the
Game of the Century, he beat Notre Dame in the

(38:25):
cottonbo for a national championship, and in baseball he threw
two no hitters. One was a perfecto against Texas Tech.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Thank you Danan.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
James Street. He was one of those option guys. He
wasn't going to beat you with his arm, but very slick.
That Woo Woo Wooster, Steve Wooster. I think they had
a tailback named bertlesteyne Bertlestein.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Something like that.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I don't know if he was Jewish, Todd, I'm going
to guess at Texas, probably not back.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
In the league.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
You never know that.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
I never hold out hope, you never ever know.

Speaker 12 (39:02):
We're checking.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, I thought it was, and maybe he played for
the Rams. Went from Texas to the Rams. Bertle Steen.

Speaker 13 (39:10):
Yes, and that name Street is so popular in Texas.
Jason Street was the quarterback character on Friday Night Lights,
the TV.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Show This Day in Sports History, Paul.

Speaker 13 (39:20):
Just a couple nineteen sixty six, the Dolphins played the
first regular season game. Unfortunately I loss to the Raiders.
Nineteen seventy, Jimmy Connors played his first match at the
US Open. He's a legend there. And let's get one
more fun one for you, Dan marvcguire hit home runs
fifty eight and fifty nine on this day, catching about
to catch Roger Marris.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I was just doing Sports Center, and you know we
were leading with so said maguire. It felt like just
about every day found of results of the poll question Seaton.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Which coverage did not match the where, which coverage did
not match the re right now Bill Belichick running away
with that one, and.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Who had the best weekend leak? Course, So just keeps winning.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Alright, let's go around the room. What we learned on
this Tuesday, Tod, I'm gonna start.

Speaker 14 (40:10):
With you, James and Virginia likes LSU to win the
national title. He likes the Chiefs and salute the Commanders
to meet in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Setan, what'd you learn today?

Speaker 4 (40:19):
Already a ton of pressure on Hubert Davis and North
Carolina basketball.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, set that turned quickly quickly. The dignitaries they called them.
I thought they were celebrities, but they called them dignitaries.
Last night, Marvin, what did you learn? You got CMC
winning Offensive Player of the Year. I do, Paul, A
lot of people love the bija Bijon for Offensive Player
of the year. Todd, what did I learn on today's

(40:44):
award nominated program?

Speaker 14 (40:45):
R D three believes Alabama coach Calendi Board gets fired
if the Tide lose four or five games this season.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Thanks for the phone calls, emails, tweets, the all around support.
Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
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