September 2, 2025 • 43 mins
FOX CFB analyst Robert Griffin III breaks down a wild week 1 in college football and weighs in on criticism surrounding Arch Manning's performance vs. Ohio State. Raleigh News & Observer sports columnist Luke DeCock assesses North Carolina's rocky opener under Bill Belichick and shares why patience may be tested quickly in Chapel Hill. The MMQB senior NFL reporter Albert Breer shares that there were 6 teams in play for Micah Parsons and he gives his Super Bowl pick for the upcoming season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
RG three, newest edition to the Fox College Football Analyst Team.
He was on the call for his alma mater versus
Auburn uh oh, and he'll have Delaware in Colorado coming
up this Saturday. Also check out his podcast out of
Pocket With RG three, we made a big deal about
Arch Manning's debut. Not many players make their debut on
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a national stage against the defending national champs on the road. Here,
it feels like we should be grading on a curve
here RG three because Peyton started out with who did
Peyton play?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
East Carolina?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
East Carolina? And then Eli started out with.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Morgan State or something, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Murray State, and then Arch starts out with Ohio State.
How do you okay, what do you take away from
Arch's debut?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Well, Dan Payton also, you know, had a pretty bad
game against Washington's eight when he went seven to fourteen,
had a takeover and during that game, and they still
won that game ten to nine. But for me, with
Arch Manning, this is just the epitome of the media
building him up just to tear him back down. And
there's a lot of people jumping ship on him, But
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I do think you're allowed to say that he struggled.
He did, he misthrows mechanically. He looked like something was
bothering him. I don't know if maybe his shoulder was
hurting or something, but he wasn't following through in a
lot of his throws, and they were going at guy's ankles,
you know, really throughout the entirety of the game. So
I think for arch Listen, that manning name on the
back of your jersey is gonna add extra scrutiny to
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everything that he does. But I don't think that he
now just doesn't know how to play football at all.
I think he had a bad game. I think we're
all allowed to have a bad day, and how he
responds moving forward throughout the rest of the season will
really determine all of his hopes and dreams being the
number one pick, you know, being a Heisman Trophy winner,
a Trophy candidate in general will all be determined by
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how he played the rest of the year. But I
think people piling on him now are really just trying
to take shots at the mannings that they feel like
they've never had a true chance to do.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
And I don't think that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But this is what surprised me, probably the most. You
got Steve Sarcusian. He played the position. He's an offensive
minded head coach. You're going against a defense that led
is led by Matt Patricia, who, of course with Bill Belichick.
What could Matt Patricia possibly dial up scheme that Steve
Sarkisian wouldn't go, Hey, I've seen that before or I
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haven't seen? Like what that's what everybody's like, Oh my gosh,
he's game plan you know, confused Texas. How many game
plan schemes can you have that's going to confuse Steve Sercuseian.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Yeah, Dan, I don't think that they confused Texas at all.
And this is what I'm talking about. We had a
lot of people talking about how Arch was a generational
talent going into this game after him only starting three games.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Does his name a little bit to do with that?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Yes, But he also possesses a trait that the two
most famous Mannings that we know of with Peyton and Eli,
really didn't, which was his legs and his ability to
make plays as a scrambling quarterback and as a dual threat.
But on the other side of that, there's also the
protection of Arch, where they're saying, oh, it wasn't it
wasn't Arch, it was the scheme. I watched all the
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tape three times and there are a countless amount of
plays that Arch didn't make in that game, or was
short on a throw first pass to the game, rolling
to his right, throws it at his receiver's ankles. And
it's okay to bring that up because it's what the
tape says, and the eye in the sky doesn't lie.
But when you're a play caller like Steve Sarkisian and
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you're drawing up these plays and they're there, they gave
him a lot of pure progression reads, which means it
doesn't matter what Matt Patricia calls here, you're going one
to two to three, and Arch was getting through his reads.
He just didn't make those throws. Now you're putting your
off behind the eight ball, second and long, third and long,
and those are places you don't want to be on
the road, going against the number three team in the country.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So I think all these things are very easily fixable.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
But as you know, in this media game, it gets
to extremes where people are piling on him too much
or they're protecting him too much. At the end of
the day, Arch Manning has to go out there and
make the plays that are there. I don't think Steve
Sarkisian was trying to protect him with his play calls.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I just think that it just wasn't their day. If
Alabama is averaged this season, finish that sentence.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Is what is average? Dan, give me a record.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Five loss four or five losses? Yeahs.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Kaitlyn de Boar's tired, and I'm a Kaitlyn Deboor guy.
He's been a winner everywhere he's been. Just to me
with Alabama. It kind of reminds me of like players
when they go to a different place and they find
success where they didn't have in the previous stop. Sometimes
it's not that the player can't play, they're just not
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in the right system. It's not the right fit. And
for Kaylen de bor, if Alabama loses four to five
games this year, that doesn't fly. At Alabama, there's an
expectation of greatness and expectation of national championships, an expectation
of at least being in the national championship picture, and
September is going to be.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Very, very difficult.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
They're playing Georgia here in a few weeks, and Kaylen
de Bor's leadership style is like the complete opposite in
contrast to Nick Saban and how he handled his team.
But I do believe that the fear factor of playing
against Bama has been eroded by a number of things,
not just Saban not being there, but also nil the
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transfer portal. Bama's just not as deep as it used
to be and doesn't have that factor of hey, our
three deep is better than your starters because those three
deeps are now playing at other schools, which is leveling
the playing field in college football. So that's my long
way of answering and saying I love Kaylen Debor.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I think he's a great coach.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
He just might not be the coach for Alabama, but
if he wins and they end up being in the
national championship picture, I do think that he survives.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Talking to RG three foks college football analyst and his
podcast out of Pocket with RG three, Yeah, I remember
when Kaylen de Boor joined us when he went to Alabama.
I said, do you know what you're getting into?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
And he was.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Like yeah, And I'm like, even if you think you
know what you're getting into You're not. It'd be like
trying to be the president of the United States. You
know what you're getting into. I think yeah, I think no.
You have no idea, even Belichick getting into college football. Okay,
seventy new players and you're having eighteen and nineteen year olds.
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You know this isn't NFL. You know, veterans taking care
of business.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Seventy new players. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Like, if they win eight games, that's probably what is expected.
But after last night, if I said eight wins over under,
you would take I'd.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Take me under.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
There's a deeper conversation here with Bill Belichick in this
North Carolina team as well. You talk about those seventy
new players you mentioned jan in the NFL. These guys
are trying to, you know, put food on the plates
of their family, right, grown men. They understand their responsibilities.
They take it as a job. Those seventy new players
are trying to figure out where the utensils go at
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the dinner table.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
So these guys, these are young men, and you're having
to mold them.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
And I'm not saying, hey, throw in the towel on
Bill Belichick and Lombardi and what they're trying to build
there at Chapel Hill. What I am saying is that
it was not recognizable for a Bill Belichick football team.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
He always talks about doing your job.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
They lost a turnover battle right one through an interception,
had four fumbles and they lost only two of them.
But they gave up one hundred yard rusher, they gave
up one hundred yard receiver, and then quarterback Josh Hoover
threw for two hundred and eighty four yards. So for me,
you watch the defense, no gap, integrity, no identity. They
weren't running to the football. And Kendall Browns is the
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offensive coordinator for TCU and he was our receiver coach
when I was in college, and I haven't had a
chance to talk to him yet, but I know for
a fact that every single college coach that is going
to face Bill Belichick this year is licking their chops
to show him and show his staff that their scheme
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is better than his, because for decades now, DAN NFL
coaches have silently been telling college coaches, hey man, that
college stuff don't work up here. And now he's going
to the college realm and they're all going to be saying, huh, Hey, Bill,
that NFL stuff don't work over here. They they're going
to use this as fuel to the fire because I
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know a lot of players feel the same way that
the college coaches do. Why aren't we running more of
these college schemes in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Explain that to you, Explain that to me in our audience.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
So what exactly is it the North Carolina is trying
to do that It is going to be to their detriment.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
First and foremost.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
When you talk about the NFL game compared to the
college game, the biggest difference isn't just the age of
the guys in the maturity level, it's also the hash marks.
So in college football, the hashes are much wider, so
your boundary side of the field is shorter and the
field is much wider, So some of the gap responsibilities
that Bill Belichick is used to because of the tight
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hashes in the NFL they go by the wayside. I've
had many NFL defensive coordinators when I played in college
come to college and didn't know how to play college
quarters because of the hash marks. Now you got a
safety playing quarters with way more field that he has
to cover on the field side, putting him in one
on one matchups. It's why coverage in college football from
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the safety position is more important than it's ever been
in the NFL because you can hide those guys and
not have them on an island against a guy who
runs a four to two. So when you look at
Belichick and what their adjustments are going to have to be,
it's the tempo NFL. Most teams are only used to
Temple and two minae durals. I would just call Baylor
versus Auburn. Both teams are in Temple the entire game.
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It was hard to get a replay in. They're gonna
have to They're gonna have to adjust to those types
of things. And then it's the it's the new guys.
You brought in Go Lopez from South Alabama. You got
Max Johnson there who came at the end of the
game and played well although the game was already out
of hand. Who's going to be your quarterback, Who's going
to be your difference maker? In college, that's way more
important than it is at the NFL level. If you
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get one Lamar Jackson in college, you can win eight games.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
In the NFL.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
You need Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry and Za Flowers
and Marlon Humphrey. And that's what I think Bill is
more used to is those already pre qualified players that
he knows are going to be where they're supposed to be.
Now coming to the college ranks, it's just a lot different.
And TCU exploited that. Sonny Dyke said, Hey, they're talking
about Bill, they should be talking about us.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And I think they prove that.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, when you talk about a quarterback, make a difference,
like you with Baylor, like Cam at Auburn. Who's the
greatest college quarterback of all time?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
In your opinion?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
The greatest college quarterback of all time? Just from a
pure accolade standpoint, you know, I'd have to go with
Tim Tebow. I think what he was able to accomplish
at Florida the speech is.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
How about one year, one year, one year greatest college quarterback?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I mean, I'm gonna exclude myself.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
From the summers of course you should.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Uh is going to put that out less you feel
like you're you had the greatest single.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
No, no, no, I just think I think what we were
able to accomplish that Baylor hasn't been accomplished in anywhere else.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And the turnaround that we did. But it's a conversation
for another time.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Again, I would say from a single greatest year, Man,
it's it's it's Cam Newton. It has to be Cam
going from Blenn going to Auburn.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
And what he was able to pull off, like some
of those quarterback powers, Dan, I don't think anybody in
the stadium wanted to tackle Cam on those quarterback powers.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
And to see like he lined up a wide receiver
and Moss the dB like like he was doing it
all that year.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
And I know Cam, Uh. You know, we talk a lot.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
We compete in overtime seven on seven with our with
our seven on seven football teams.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
UH.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
And Cam is he's out there, you know, the clothes,
the hats, he does his thing. He's got his own swag.
But when you talk about on the football field, that's
probably the single greatest season I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
How do the Eagles not go to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
They don't stay healthy? When you we talked about the
dynasty that is the Chiefs. The Chiefs wore a dynasty.
They were trying to do something that had never been
done before. Now I think the Eagles have kind of
taken that mantle of all right, let's go and repeat
and see if we can build this thing over time.
They're healthy, they're healthy right now. Obviously the combination of
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it's like the Big five for.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Them on offense.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
You know, it's it's Jalen Hurts, It's Sakwon Barkley, AJ Brown,
Devonte Smith and Dallas Goddard. That big five right there
is certainly the best big five, uh in the NFL,
because it's never been a Big five day and it's.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Always been like a Big three or a Big two.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
So I think for the Eagles, as long as they
you know, don't get complacent. They're they're the favorite to
repeat a Super Bowl champs. It's just going to come
down to them staying healthy. And I think Nick Sirianni
is actually one of the best coaches in the NFL
and doesn't get enough credit for what he's been able
to do to keep that team together and.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Focused over the last few years.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
What should like to go back to pass and you
have somebody with the athleticism of Michaeh. Parsons like like
like the it's a split second and you know he's there,
you got to kind of keep an eye well, you
tell me you're going back to pass and you know
he's there.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
What is that feeling like for a quarterback?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Oh, it's uh, it's it's nightmarish, I would say, because
because Micah isn't just your Like I knew when I
when I played DeMarcus where and we were playing with
the Restings at the time and against the Dallas Cowboys,
I knew I could get away from DeMarcus because I
was I was more athletic than DeMarcus. But with Micah, like,
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Micah beat Tyreek Hill in a race now, and I
know Tyreek was was kind of jogging whatever, but still, uh,
that was impressive. So you know, with Micah has changed
the direction his acceleration and his speed. He can't he
cannot only hit you hard, but he can run you down.
So I know you're getting into the of like the
Dallas Cowboys and making that trade. It doesn't make any
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sense to me because you kind of paid Duran Bland
to kind of distract from the fact that you traded
away Micah Parsons. And I'm always for guys getting the bread.
I'm happy for Doran, but we're not gonna forget that
you just trade or traded away the actual generational talent
that you've been looking for, and you got only two
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first round picks form and those two first round picks,
you know what they're you're hoping they become. Then you're
hoping they become Micah Parsons. So that to me, you
got to get at least three first round picks for
him if you're going to trade them away. I've heard
a lot of stuff behind the scenes when it comes
to Micah, but on the football field, his production is
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very hard to replicate. You have to ask yourself who's
in a better position now to win the Super Bowl?
Is it the Dallas Cowboys or is it the Green
Bay Packers? And I think overwhelmingly it's the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Great to talk to you as always, have fun, safe
travels to cd ON.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Appreciate you, brother, Let's talk soon.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
That's RG three.
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Speaker 2 (16:45):
Luke Decock Raleigh News and Observer sports columnists for seventeen
years covering North Carolina football. Well, last time I had
you on, I don't know how optimistic you sounded there,
but house morale in North Carolina today.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's fair to say that
things did kna go was planned in the Bill Belichick
debut last night.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
The first six minutes they get out their eighty three
yard touchdown drive, very clean, very crisp three and out
on their first defensive series, and you were like, oh, hey,
you know, maybe these guys did split the atom. And
then the next fifty four minutes looked like pretty much
every era of North Carolina football and the history of
North Carolina football. The talent level, I think is the
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more disturbing thing than the coaching. It just, you know,
it looked almost like one of the late David Cutcliffe
era duke teams or where you're just kind of getting
beat at every position. The secondary was full of transfers.
It got torn apart. Their two best offensive players were
guys who were holdovers from the Mac Brown era. It
just it did not look like an acc caliber team.
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It looked like, you know, a stew of a bunch
of things thrown together hoping that the celebrity chef could
make something out of it. And you know, you're up
against an established program with a philosophy and a foundation
and a background. And TCU did what you would expect
them to do. They went up against the team they
didn't know anything about. They made quick adjustments, effective adjustments,
and unc never adjusted. It was, you know, kind of
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the debacle. The last time you and I talked, we're like,
how bad could this potentially get? I think this is
how bad it could potentially get.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Okay, it is one game, and I always caution people
whether they're criticizing Arch Manning or Alabama or it's one game.
But there can be breadcrumbs that are put down that
you go. I don't know, if I keep following this,
it may end up worse than this. I think the
over under was eight and a half for Carolina. Where
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would you stand on that bet today?
Speaker 8 (18:50):
Yeah, I'm still under. I mean I think to get
to nine wins time wins, you had to win this one.
That's kind of predicated on getting off to a good start.
You know, you win the TCU game, You've got all
this hype. You've got Michael Jordan, Lawrence Taylor, Mia hamm
Roy Williams. Not that Roy miss is a UNC football game,
but you had the national sports world watching, and you know,
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Herb Street and Rhys Davis and Pat McAfee and Herbie's
dog and like everybody on the planets watching this football game.
And you're trying to capture all this momentum. You had
nine months to prepare. The eyes of the world are
on Chapel Hill. You've got all these stuff that they've trademarked,
Chapel Bill and Bill's version and all this stuff, and
then you ought to lay an egg like that. It
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certainly if this was going to be what we had
been pitched, what the unc boosters and trustees had paid
all these millions of dollars for It was not going
to look like this.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Off the hop.
Speaker 8 (19:44):
Now, yeah, it doesn't mean that they can't regroup and
figure things out and maybe make some changes in terms
of who's playing and who's on the depth chart. But
you know, the vision that was out there did not
start like this. This was pretty grim. And to be honest,
that second half, you know, TCU comes out, scores a
seventy five yard touchdown on the first play, Carolina costs
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it up for another TCU touchdown. I mean it, it's
you know, I hate to say like a team quit,
but it did look like Carolina ran out of gas
physically and emotionally and just couldn't keep up in the
second half. That's not a great sign in terms of
what are the breadcrumbs in terms of what could work
going forward? When you had six minutes of good football
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that you had nine months to prepare for and everything
else fell apart after that.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, and that's what I was going to bring up, Luke,
that you had all this time to prepare for this opponent,
you bring in seventy new players. Yes, you have Bill Belichick,
the King of adjustments, and I'm thinking, all right, TCU
is showing some life here. Offensively, Bill will make changes.
He did that famously with the Patriots. I just don't
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know if you can ask an eighteen or nineteen or
twenty year old to make adjustments on the fly like
he was asking professionals in New England. And maybe he
didn't have the talent that he thought, because there felt
like a real disparity, you know, in the second half
of the haves and the have nots, and.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
I honestly think it could have been worse than the
first half. There were opportunities for TCU to throw the
ball that they weren't taking because they really were you know,
like it's football, right, We're going to establish the run
game and get our go through our scheme and get
everything set up. And there were chances to take shots
deep against North Carolina secondary in the first half the
TCU passed on.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
They did not in the second half.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
And that would be the number one thing that would
worry me if I were Bill Belichick, you know, mister defense.
I mean, maybe there just weren't enough lacross players out there,
but the secondary's inability to cover and then the inability
to get pressure. I mean, it was just sort of
a cascading series of failures on defense, and then what
happened at that point the second half is the complete
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inability to tackle. So now we've gone from adjustments to
cascading failures to just fundamentals. And if I'm Bill Belichick,
that what's going to keep me up last night more
than anything is we put together a roster that not
only can't make the adjustments you're talking about, but can't
do the basic things we need to do just to
win football games.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Talking to Luke de Kott, he's a sports columnist Raleigh
News and Observer covering North Carolina football for seventeen years.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Clemson at home in five weeks, Well.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
Yeah, I mean, look, Charlotte on the road. I mean, now,
it's your first road game, short turnaround from Monday to Saturday.
You got a lot of things you need to fix.
You got a million dollar quarterback who look terrible and
has a sore back. Now, there are issues with this team,
even if they had won this game, that have to
be resolved before the Charlotte get Now, look, Charlotte struggled
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in their opener. This is a game that you know,
it's crazy, Uns, he's gone on the road. This game
was set up years ago, as we all know in
college football, but this is no gimme. I mean, they
have got to get out there and find a way
to execute and do the things that they did on
that first drive and failed to do. It was just,
you know, the students were leaving, Like the third quarter
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wasn't even half over. The students were gone by the
end of the third quarter. The boosters who paid for
this were gone. I mean, it was just the way
that balloon punk was punctured and burst and that air
just went out of everything. That's tough for players too,
like they have to get back to where they were
going into this game to play a team that they're
not going to be excited about playing. Forget about Clemson,
I mean that you've got to get ready to play Charlotte,
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which is the kind of game that you would say, oh,
this is a potential letdown game. I mean, app State
and East Carolina are always tough games for these schools,
for UNC and Duke in State because those are the
biggest games on the calendar for those teams. And now
Carolina's got to go play in one of those games
against a team that's, you know, like everybody else this
season is going to be really fired up about the
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chance to prove itself against Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
How patient should people be? How patient will the Boosters
be with Bill?
Speaker 8 (23:56):
Boosters are going to be patient because they're pot committed now,
They've got no choice. I mean, they're there, this is
they made this bed. They're gonna have to sleep in it.
I think based on the fan reaction last night, the
patience has already gone. It's it's a little unfair. And look,
Carolina brought this on himself. Bill Belichick brought this on himself.
Michael Lombardi brought this on himself. They talked that they
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had untied the college football not they were gonna come in.
They were smarter than everybody else, they were better than
everybody else. And it turned like I'm telling you right now,
Dave dorn Over in Raleigh, the NC State coach last night,
I guarantee you he had a cigar, he had a
solo cup of whiskey. He's got his feet up, he's
laughing his butt off, like these guys just came in.
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We are so much better than you. We have this
figured out. We have Super Bowl rings and they got there.
You know, they got embarrassed in their first college game.
I think the fans saw that too. There was a
very strong element of the Emperor's.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
New clothes last night.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
You know, I joked in my column like, you know,
forget the cutoff sleeves. Belichick got pants last night, like
he got exposed, and that, I think, more than anything,
really sort of put a pin in the idea that
you know, the UNC is going to be in the
CFP and they're going to revolutionize college football and you
know they've got a new paradigm. I mean, it was
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to get beat like that, to be out talented and
out coached and out adjusted, and to see what we've
known all on right. TCU out there out there tweeting
an image of the Hulu series and saying when's the
first episode? Like everybody is gunning for these guys and
they were totally unprepared for So I mean, to me,
the patience has already gone. People are just kind of
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wondering how bad it's going to be. And again, look,
we talked about this a second ago. This is maybe
not the way the whole season is going to go, right,
Like you can get better. And if Bill Belichick is
the coach that he says he is and that UNC's
boosters are paying for, they will get better and they
will learn from this. And now they have film and
they know who they can trust in who they can't.
But you know, and if this was John summerl or
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Jeff Monkin or any of the other coaches they could
have hired, we all be saying, hey, what did you expect?
They have seventy new players, right, this is turnover. There's
gonna be growing pains, and this is gonna take time.
But that's not what Bill Belichick said. That's not what
he promised. They were coming in to change college football,
to be the thirty third NFL team. And I'm gonna
make the same joke I made this the last time
I was with you. Like, yes, this was very Cleveland
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Brown's esque. It was very much the thirty third NFL team.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Just to confirm North Carolina is still a basketball school.
Speaker 8 (26:27):
I mean, the only Jordan that still matters?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Oh is Michael Well? Weren't they together with the dignitaries
up there a h Lawrence.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
Taylor and Roy But hey, you know it's to me,
to me, this almost puts more pressure on Hubert Davis
because basketball is gonna have to make up for this.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
You know, the uniform still looked good last night, though, Luke,
that's the most important thing.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Of course. Yes, great to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I look forward to talking to you maybe after week
five when North Carolina is shocks Clemson and then what
are you going to write in your column? Then?
Speaker 8 (27:04):
I mean, hey, look man, I'm perfectly compared for my
own come up, and so they can turn this around.
But based on the early returns, I don't necessarily think
that's likely.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
It's certainly possible.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Thank you, Luke.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
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Speaker 2 (27:29):
Matthew Stafford expect to play week one according to the RAMS,
and Micah Parson's working through a back issue. He is
expected to play in week one and may need an epidural.
Speaking of NFL news, Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback
senior NFL reporter who was also at the Ohio State
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Texas game. Being in Ohio State, apologies there. What would
you wait, Okay, your takeaway from arch Manning was what he's.
Speaker 9 (28:00):
A kid in his first game as the true starting quarterback,
his first game against an elite opponent, and I actually
thought he showed some resilience making some big time throws
at the end of the game. There was the one
to There was one for the touchdown down the right sideline.
There was the one to the tight end down the
left sideline on the final possession of the game.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So was it perfect?
Speaker 9 (28:23):
No? I mean, Dan, I just look, and I've been
saying this for four months, like, I just think it's
as nine that anybody's projecting him to be the number
one pick in the draft.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
We don't know he might become that, but you know, I.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
Think there's so little that we've seen at this point
in scouts will tell you this is like, there's so
little you can take from two starts against a directional
school and what was the worst team in the SEC
last year. You don't know what's going to happen when
he gets knocked around a little bit. You don't know
what's going to happen when teams get five, six, seven
games of tape on him and now they're able to
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game plan him.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
You don't know what's going to happen when he plays
in opponent.
Speaker 9 (29:01):
And this is a process that all young quarterbacks have
to go through.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
And because of his last name, he's.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Been elevated to this level where.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
The expectations are almost impossible.
Speaker 9 (29:11):
I mean, go back and look at like what cam
Ward's first five or six games at Washington State looked
like when he went from Incarnate Word to Washington State. Now,
this is the guy who became the first pick in
the draft, right and he'd play. He had started for
two years at a lower level of college football, and
I think there was a i want to say, a
four game stretch where he threw seven picks. Nobody cared
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because his last name's Ward, not Manning, you know. So yeah,
I think there's a lot of talent there. I think
the kid's got a great head on his shoulders by
all accounts. Like you know, I talked to Quinn Yours
about him earlier in the offseason, and Quinn loves him.
And that's a kid who would have every reason not
to like him. Loves him, you know. And I've even
seen some things that Archie has said that show a
tremendous amount of self awareness, you know, like where he
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says things like, you know, I can't wait to see
what it looks like when I have I throw my
first pick, and now everybody goes from thinking I'm the
best player in the world to the worst player in
the world.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I think he's got the head and the talent to
work through all this.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
But I think what you saw on Saturday was part
of the process of becoming a big time quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Will be less patient with Bill Belichick and the results
at North Carolina. What would you say would be it's
one game, obviously, but a little bit more disturbing that
this could be Yeah, maybe season one, maybe more systemic.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
Yeah, So I would say, you know, I expected them
to lose a game. I just think TCU has got
better players, and the reality is they were a talent
deficit in that game. That's a well coached team, you know,
say Lubick took them to the National semi the National
championship game just a few years ago. It's not some pushover.
They were playing in Week one, So I thought they'd lose.
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What surprised me was like, what a bleep show it
turned into in the third quo and I don't know
if you like how much of the game he watched him,
but to me, the third quarter it was, I mean,
it was like almost bad news bears ish. Maybe I'm
dating myself.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
A little bit with that reference, but.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
You know, the first play from scrimmage is seventy five
yard touchdown. On the second possession, they convert third and
twenty with a steam route right down Main Street, and
then you know, the running back scores in the next
play untouched from twenty eight yards out, you know, and
then you had that the fumble return for a touchdown
a little.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Bit after that.
Speaker 9 (31:32):
It just it felt like the team wasn't prepared, you know,
to come out of the locker room for the second half.
And that was what was alarming to me about it.
It wasn't it wasn't again, it wasn't that they'd lose
the game. I thought they'd lose the game. It was
the way that it looked towards the end. And so,
you know, I think Bill knows he's got a lot
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of work to do, but that was something I think
you wouldn't expect from a Bill Belichick coach team, regardless
of how long or short he's been in a place.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Okay, you're not reporting this, but if I said, if
you were going to bet on this, what is Bill
Belichick doing a year.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
From now coaching North Carolina?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, I think, like I mean.
Speaker 9 (32:14):
Look like there's seventy new players and that's the number, right, Yeah, Okay,
So Dion Sanders went through this two years ago of Colorado,
and I think Dion, if I remember I didn't he
beat TCU in his first game.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Isn't that right? But then what was their record?
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I think they won more four games.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Right, So, like Dion eventually got there.
Speaker 9 (32:35):
But I think some people looked at that and underestimated,
like what a herculean task it is to turn over
that much of the of the roster when you're dealing
with like nineteen twenty twenty one year old kids, you know,
and maybe Bill, you know, like underestimated what that what
what the what the task there would be. But that's
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a really serious overhaul of a college program. And I think,
you know, now it's the benefit of having like at
least a game of evidence of it. It might have
been too much to ask, to ask for a really
great performance right out of the gate.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Talking Albert Breer the Monday Morning Quarterbacks senior NFL reporter,
how many teams were in play for Micah Parsons.
Speaker 9 (33:21):
I think the number was it was six, like and
at the very end maybe less, but there were six
that were involved, and you know, the Cowboys took what
they felt like was the best offer. Now, I think
that the thing that people are missing here, and I
think this is a really interesting nuance to it, is
(33:41):
that there's a bigger picture thought here for Dallas and
what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
And I'm not going to tell you that they didn't
want to resign Micah.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
They did, but when things broke down in the spring,
they had a series of conversations about like, okay, like
what are we trying to do here?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
We haven't been to an.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
NFC championship game, let alone a super Bowl only nine years.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
That's the third longest drought in the NFL.
Speaker 9 (34:04):
Yet we've I think they're top ten, top seven or
eight maybe and wins over that same period. So you've
been consistently really good, but never good enough, right like
at the end, you know, and I think they, you know,
with a new head coach now, Brian Schottenheimer started to
look in the mirror a little bit about it, you know,
and it.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Was like, okay, Like, so, if we are going.
Speaker 9 (34:27):
To get to a point where we're going to trade
Micah Parsons, is there some sort.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Of pivot we want to make here?
Speaker 9 (34:33):
And that pivot wound up being we want to like
really lean in on what Brian Schottenheimer's trying to build here,
which you've heard him use the phrase the greatest culture
in professional sports, and maybe that's a little bit hyperbole,
but like that's the idea of what.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
They're trying to do there.
Speaker 9 (34:47):
And then you look at their first two draft picks
in April, and it was two guys who are just
middle of the fairway from a makeup and character standpoint,
and Tyler Booker from Alabama and Donovan Azeraku from Boston College,
really productive college players who are really great people. And
then you look at what Dallas did here, right like,
which not all six of the teams had two first
(35:08):
round picks on the on the table, but the rough
ask was two first round picks and a player that
can be useful for us, and the Cowboys actually asked
for Kenny Clark. And I think the Packers were taken
aback a little bit by that, thinking like well, they.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Lost DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
They they're losing Micha Parsons here, we thought maybe they'd
want an edge player and Packers people were heartbroken like
losing Kenny Clark right. The reason why is because the
person he is, and I think that that was a
huge part. That was a huge part of why Dallas
asked specifically for him, because it's leaning into what they're
trying to build and leaning into that whole We're gonna
(35:45):
have the greatest culture in the NFL thing, and maybe
that'll be the difference maker for us. Now we'll work,
we'll see. But in drafting Booker and drafting as Iraku
and now bringing in Kenny Clark, I think they're kind
of looking at it and saying, how can we make
the locker room the best locker room in the NFL?
And how can we empower Dak Prescott to be the
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leader of the team. And we'll see how all that
works out. But Michah Parsons didn't really fit into that. Now, again,
they wanted to resign them. I'm not saying they didn't
want to resign them, but the idea was, if we
do move on from this guy, what are we going
to do.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
And I think you see a pretty clear.
Speaker 9 (36:19):
Vision for what they're going to do on the field
with the run stopping stuff that they've said a million
times now, but also off the field.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Yeah, I mean you don't bring in George Pickens if
you're talking about the locker room.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah, but that's for a year.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Okay, But I mean, okay, now you can stop the run. Now,
can you stop the pounds? You know, you and.
Speaker 9 (36:38):
I understand, and I understand there's a lot of that
right like in the Pickens things.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
That's a good rebuttal there's.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
No question like that's a big risk for them, you know,
but that's for a year and you'll see where that goes.
And in the meantime, like they are able to take
that money and and and sign some of their own guys,
you know, I mean dorn Blans want got done over
the last couple of days. Tyler Smith's another, you know,
(37:04):
you know, a real like foundation piece for them on
the offensive line that they plan to resign.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Like these things would.
Speaker 9 (37:10):
Be more difficult if you had Michael Parsons making between
forty five and fifty million dollars a year. So again,
like I think there's just sort of a big picture
idea here in the way that they're going.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
To handle it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
But Kenny Clark helps you now, but you don't need
help now. He's not the future. You're getting his two
first round picks. I mean, how did Jamal Adams got three?
There was three first round picks for Jamal Adams for
the Jetst. I just don't understand. If I look at
some of these other players who've been traded, defensive players, Yeah,
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you got a lot more for these guys.
Speaker 9 (37:46):
And I think that that, like that to me, is
another valid criticism, is like, if you were talking about
this in March and April, right, then you should have
created the tension point with your player then. And I
think that that piece of it, to me, is really
important because if you are putting Micah Parsons on the
market in March and April, there's way more of a
(38:09):
market for him. It's tough to trade a guy right
before the start of the season. Teams budgets are set,
their caps are set, their rosters are set. Like when
you're talking about bringing in a player of this magnitude,
like that's a big thing. The capital that you got
to fork over for him, and the contract you got
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to fork over, Like that's a lot. And if you're
looking at the idea of this and you say you
put them on the market in March or April, well
then you're probably going to have more teams involved, because
more teams are gonna, you know, sort of have stayed
loose at that point with an ability to pivot and
make moves at certain positions that you wouldn't be able
to make in a summer. And then you know, like
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you're also the other benefit of doing it then is
that you're actually going to get one of those picks
on your team this year, you know what I mean, Like,
so instead of having to wait until twenty six and
twenty seven to have those guys in your team, like,
whatever picks you get in twenty five, now those teams,
those guys are going to help you right now. So
I think that's a very valid criticism that they shouldn't
have let this thing linger. They shouldn't have let it
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go through camp one hundred percent. I'm with you on that, Like,
that's a fair criticism, and they should have reached this
tension point with Michaeh Parsons and David Mulligetta and all
the people in that camp way earlier than they did.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
You got your Super Bowl pick.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I can't remember who I picked, and I don't want
to go again. It was Buffalo, and who do I pick?
Speaker 9 (39:40):
I can tell how much work I put into this stand,
how much I uh, I picked Buffalo and the Rams.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
I think even it Stafford's bank.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I think the Rams are gonna be really good, and
I think Devanta Adams, Oh, I think they're going to
be good.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
But I'm I'm only worried about Matthewson. They go Matthew,
Stafford goes.
Speaker 9 (40:01):
Yeah, they do, and I think, I think Matthews back
is going to be all right.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I just the people.
Speaker 9 (40:06):
That I've talked to there the I'm not minimizing like
what he's dealing with. He's definitely dealing with a serious injury.
But they felt like they could have.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Thrown him out there early in camp.
Speaker 9 (40:20):
And this was more about Matthew's only got so many
bullets left in the gun, and we don't need to
be firing those bullets in the first week of August
or the second week of August, especially when Jimmy Garoppolo
is on the bench and he can come in and
run our offense at a starting caliber level, so the
other ten guys in the huddle can get all the
reps that they need running our offense.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
To get ready for the season.
Speaker 9 (40:43):
So, you know, I I that was sort of the
approach that they took, like until he's one hundred percent,
we're not going to put him out there, and they
got very close to that, you know, and before putting
him out there. And Matthew has managed these things too,
like he's had you know, I think from all the
damage she took over the years in Detroit, like as
extentsial injuries for a quarterback a wrist and elbow, so
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you know, back is definitely not good for an older guy.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
But he's managed this sort of thing in.
Speaker 9 (41:11):
The past, and I personally think like they'll be able
to manage him through the through the season. And they've
got a damn good team around him. Like I think,
if you look at the young talent on that team
and the job that they've done moving out of like
the Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, Cooper Cup era, they've done
a really really nice job of.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Reworking that roster. I think they're going to be right
in it till the end.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Tampa Bay bandwagon is starting to fill up in first class.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I like the Bucks too.
Speaker 9 (41:39):
I mean, the amazing thing about the Bucks if you
look at the roster, the number of guys that are
homegrown and the depth they have there and the way
that they've been able to kind of go from the
Brady era group. It's the same thing I was talking
about the Rams, and then draft and develop young guys
and and and get a year ahead of things like.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Like a Mecca.
Speaker 9 (42:02):
Abuka might be not might might not be a big
might not feel a big need for them right now
with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin coming back off the injury,
but that's going to be a big need a year
or two in all likelihood, right, so you get that
taken care of now. They've done a really good job
of restocking their roster, having Zioncolum ready to go.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
As Carlton Davis was walking.
Speaker 9 (42:24):
Out the door, you know, like they've just done a
really good job of continuing to i mean, churn that
roster where when older players are on their way out,
they have an answer. And and I think Baker Mayfield
is is pretty underrated too. I think I think Baker's
got a chance to have a dynamite year.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Always great to talk to you. Thank you, Albert, all.
Speaker 9 (42:48):
Right, thanks Dan, and by the way, thanks for the
fantasy draft. Your secret is safe with us. I will
say that we took every precaution.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Necessary to make sure of it.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yes, some of those team names. You wouldn't want me
saying that around your wife, would you. But you can
see you can say mine, right I could. They have
all these descriptive names. Albert Alberts Fantasy League. Albert's team
is called Albert's Team.
Speaker 9 (43:11):
That's because when we changed platforms, I forgot to rename it,
so mine wasn't very good before that.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Either everybody has some wild inappropriate name, and then his
is Albert's team.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah that was I think that was yeahoo.
Speaker 9 (43:25):
I think that was the automatic Yahoo name that they
slapped on it. But but everybody appreciated it was really good.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Albert Brier, the Monday Morning Quarterbacks Senior NFL reported
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
RG three, newest edition to the Fox College Football Analyst Team.
He was on the call for his alma mater versus
Auburn uh oh, and he'll have Delaware in Colorado coming
up this Saturday. Also check out his podcast out of
Pocket With RG three, we made a big deal about
Arch Manning's debut. Not many players make their debut on
(00:27):
a national stage against the defending national champs on the road. Here,
it feels like we should be grading on a curve
here RG three because Peyton started out with who did
Peyton play?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
East Carolina?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
East Carolina? And then Eli started out with.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Morgan State or something, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Murray State, and then Arch starts out with Ohio State.
How do you okay, what do you take away from
Arch's debut?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Well, Dan Payton also, you know, had a pretty bad
game against Washington's eight when he went seven to fourteen,
had a takeover and during that game, and they still
won that game ten to nine. But for me, with
Arch Manning, this is just the epitome of the media
building him up just to tear him back down. And
there's a lot of people jumping ship on him, But
(01:16):
I do think you're allowed to say that he struggled.
He did, he misthrows mechanically. He looked like something was
bothering him. I don't know if maybe his shoulder was
hurting or something, but he wasn't following through in a
lot of his throws, and they were going at guy's ankles,
you know, really throughout the entirety of the game. So
I think for arch Listen, that manning name on the
back of your jersey is gonna add extra scrutiny to
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everything that he does. But I don't think that he
now just doesn't know how to play football at all.
I think he had a bad game. I think we're
all allowed to have a bad day, and how he
responds moving forward throughout the rest of the season will
really determine all of his hopes and dreams being the
number one pick, you know, being a Heisman Trophy winner,
a Trophy candidate in general will all be determined by
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how he played the rest of the year. But I
think people piling on him now are really just trying
to take shots at the mannings that they feel like
they've never had a true chance to do.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
And I don't think that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But this is what surprised me, probably the most. You
got Steve Sarcusian. He played the position. He's an offensive
minded head coach. You're going against a defense that led
is led by Matt Patricia, who, of course with Bill Belichick.
What could Matt Patricia possibly dial up scheme that Steve
Sarkisian wouldn't go, Hey, I've seen that before or I
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haven't seen? Like what that's what everybody's like, Oh my gosh,
he's game plan you know, confused Texas. How many game
plan schemes can you have that's going to confuse Steve Sercuseian.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Yeah, Dan, I don't think that they confused Texas at all.
And this is what I'm talking about. We had a
lot of people talking about how Arch was a generational
talent going into this game after him only starting three games.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Does his name a little bit to do with that?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Yes, But he also possesses a trait that the two
most famous Mannings that we know of with Peyton and Eli,
really didn't, which was his legs and his ability to
make plays as a scrambling quarterback and as a dual threat.
But on the other side of that, there's also the
protection of Arch, where they're saying, oh, it wasn't it
wasn't Arch, it was the scheme. I watched all the
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tape three times and there are a countless amount of
plays that Arch didn't make in that game, or was
short on a throw first pass to the game, rolling
to his right, throws it at his receiver's ankles. And
it's okay to bring that up because it's what the
tape says, and the eye in the sky doesn't lie.
But when you're a play caller like Steve Sarkisian and
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you're drawing up these plays and they're there, they gave
him a lot of pure progression reads, which means it
doesn't matter what Matt Patricia calls here, you're going one
to two to three, and Arch was getting through his reads.
He just didn't make those throws. Now you're putting your
off behind the eight ball, second and long, third and long,
and those are places you don't want to be on
the road, going against the number three team in the country.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So I think all these things are very easily fixable.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
But as you know, in this media game, it gets
to extremes where people are piling on him too much
or they're protecting him too much. At the end of
the day, Arch Manning has to go out there and
make the plays that are there. I don't think Steve
Sarkisian was trying to protect him with his play calls.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I just think that it just wasn't their day. If
Alabama is averaged this season, finish that sentence.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Is what is average? Dan, give me a record.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Five loss four or five losses? Yeahs.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Kaitlyn de Boar's tired, and I'm a Kaitlyn Deboor guy.
He's been a winner everywhere he's been. Just to me
with Alabama. It kind of reminds me of like players
when they go to a different place and they find
success where they didn't have in the previous stop. Sometimes
it's not that the player can't play, they're just not
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in the right system. It's not the right fit. And
for Kaylen de bor, if Alabama loses four to five
games this year, that doesn't fly. At Alabama, there's an
expectation of greatness and expectation of national championships, an expectation
of at least being in the national championship picture, and
September is going to be.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Very, very difficult.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
They're playing Georgia here in a few weeks, and Kaylen
de Bor's leadership style is like the complete opposite in
contrast to Nick Saban and how he handled his team.
But I do believe that the fear factor of playing
against Bama has been eroded by a number of things,
not just Saban not being there, but also nil the
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transfer portal. Bama's just not as deep as it used
to be and doesn't have that factor of hey, our
three deep is better than your starters because those three
deeps are now playing at other schools, which is leveling
the playing field in college football. So that's my long
way of answering and saying I love Kaylen Debor.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I think he's a great coach.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
He just might not be the coach for Alabama, but
if he wins and they end up being in the
national championship picture, I do think that he survives.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Talking to RG three foks college football analyst and his
podcast out of Pocket with RG three, Yeah, I remember
when Kaylen de Boor joined us when he went to Alabama.
I said, do you know what you're getting into?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
And he was.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Like yeah, And I'm like, even if you think you
know what you're getting into You're not. It'd be like
trying to be the president of the United States. You
know what you're getting into. I think yeah, I think no.
You have no idea, even Belichick getting into college football. Okay,
seventy new players and you're having eighteen and nineteen year olds.
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You know this isn't NFL. You know, veterans taking care
of business.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Seventy new players. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Like, if they win eight games, that's probably what is expected.
But after last night, if I said eight wins over under,
you would take I'd.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Take me under.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
There's a deeper conversation here with Bill Belichick in this
North Carolina team as well. You talk about those seventy
new players you mentioned jan in the NFL. These guys
are trying to, you know, put food on the plates
of their family, right, grown men. They understand their responsibilities.
They take it as a job. Those seventy new players
are trying to figure out where the utensils go at
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the dinner table.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
So these guys, these are young men, and you're having
to mold them.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
And I'm not saying, hey, throw in the towel on
Bill Belichick and Lombardi and what they're trying to build
there at Chapel Hill. What I am saying is that
it was not recognizable for a Bill Belichick football team.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
He always talks about doing your job.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
They lost a turnover battle right one through an interception,
had four fumbles and they lost only two of them.
But they gave up one hundred yard rusher, they gave
up one hundred yard receiver, and then quarterback Josh Hoover
threw for two hundred and eighty four yards. So for me,
you watch the defense, no gap, integrity, no identity. They
weren't running to the football. And Kendall Browns is the
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offensive coordinator for TCU and he was our receiver coach
when I was in college, and I haven't had a
chance to talk to him yet, but I know for
a fact that every single college coach that is going
to face Bill Belichick this year is licking their chops
to show him and show his staff that their scheme
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is better than his, because for decades now, DAN NFL
coaches have silently been telling college coaches, hey man, that
college stuff don't work up here. And now he's going
to the college realm and they're all going to be saying, huh, Hey, Bill,
that NFL stuff don't work over here. They they're going
to use this as fuel to the fire because I
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know a lot of players feel the same way that
the college coaches do. Why aren't we running more of
these college schemes in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Explain that to you, Explain that to me in our audience.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
So what exactly is it the North Carolina is trying
to do that It is going to be to their detriment.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
First and foremost.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
When you talk about the NFL game compared to the
college game, the biggest difference isn't just the age of
the guys in the maturity level, it's also the hash marks.
So in college football, the hashes are much wider, so
your boundary side of the field is shorter and the
field is much wider, So some of the gap responsibilities
that Bill Belichick is used to because of the tight
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hashes in the NFL they go by the wayside. I've
had many NFL defensive coordinators when I played in college
come to college and didn't know how to play college
quarters because of the hash marks. Now you got a
safety playing quarters with way more field that he has
to cover on the field side, putting him in one
on one matchups. It's why coverage in college football from
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the safety position is more important than it's ever been
in the NFL because you can hide those guys and
not have them on an island against a guy who
runs a four to two. So when you look at
Belichick and what their adjustments are going to have to be,
it's the tempo NFL. Most teams are only used to
Temple and two minae durals. I would just call Baylor
versus Auburn. Both teams are in Temple the entire game.
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It was hard to get a replay in. They're gonna
have to They're gonna have to adjust to those types
of things. And then it's the it's the new guys.
You brought in Go Lopez from South Alabama. You got
Max Johnson there who came at the end of the
game and played well although the game was already out
of hand. Who's going to be your quarterback, Who's going
to be your difference maker? In college, that's way more
important than it is at the NFL level. If you
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get one Lamar Jackson in college, you can win eight games.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
In the NFL.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
You need Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry and Za Flowers
and Marlon Humphrey. And that's what I think Bill is
more used to is those already pre qualified players that
he knows are going to be where they're supposed to be.
Now coming to the college ranks, it's just a lot different.
And TCU exploited that. Sonny Dyke said, Hey, they're talking
about Bill, they should be talking about us.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And I think they prove that.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, when you talk about a quarterback, make a difference,
like you with Baylor, like Cam at Auburn. Who's the
greatest college quarterback of all time?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
In your opinion?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
The greatest college quarterback of all time? Just from a
pure accolade standpoint, you know, I'd have to go with
Tim Tebow. I think what he was able to accomplish
at Florida the speech is.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
How about one year, one year, one year greatest college quarterback?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I mean, I'm gonna exclude myself.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
From the summers of course you should.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Uh is going to put that out less you feel
like you're you had the greatest single.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
No, no, no, I just think I think what we were
able to accomplish that Baylor hasn't been accomplished in anywhere else.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And the turnaround that we did. But it's a conversation
for another time.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Again, I would say from a single greatest year, Man,
it's it's it's Cam Newton. It has to be Cam
going from Blenn going to Auburn.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
And what he was able to pull off, like some
of those quarterback powers, Dan, I don't think anybody in
the stadium wanted to tackle Cam on those quarterback powers.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
And to see like he lined up a wide receiver
and Moss the dB like like he was doing it
all that year.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
And I know Cam, Uh. You know, we talk a lot.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
We compete in overtime seven on seven with our with
our seven on seven football teams.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
UH.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
And Cam is he's out there, you know, the clothes,
the hats, he does his thing. He's got his own swag.
But when you talk about on the football field, that's
probably the single greatest season I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
How do the Eagles not go to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
They don't stay healthy? When you we talked about the
dynasty that is the Chiefs. The Chiefs wore a dynasty.
They were trying to do something that had never been
done before. Now I think the Eagles have kind of
taken that mantle of all right, let's go and repeat
and see if we can build this thing over time.
They're healthy, they're healthy right now. Obviously the combination of
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it's like the Big five for.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Them on offense.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
You know, it's it's Jalen Hurts, It's Sakwon Barkley, AJ Brown,
Devonte Smith and Dallas Goddard. That big five right there
is certainly the best big five, uh in the NFL,
because it's never been a Big five day and it's.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Always been like a Big three or a Big two.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
So I think for the Eagles, as long as they
you know, don't get complacent. They're they're the favorite to
repeat a Super Bowl champs. It's just going to come
down to them staying healthy. And I think Nick Sirianni
is actually one of the best coaches in the NFL
and doesn't get enough credit for what he's been able
to do to keep that team together and.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Focused over the last few years.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
What should like to go back to pass and you
have somebody with the athleticism of Michaeh. Parsons like like
like the it's a split second and you know he's there,
you got to kind of keep an eye well, you
tell me you're going back to pass and you know
he's there.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
What is that feeling like for a quarterback?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Oh, it's uh, it's it's nightmarish, I would say, because
because Micah isn't just your Like I knew when I
when I played DeMarcus where and we were playing with
the Restings at the time and against the Dallas Cowboys,
I knew I could get away from DeMarcus because I
was I was more athletic than DeMarcus. But with Micah, like,
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Micah beat Tyreek Hill in a race now, and I
know Tyreek was was kind of jogging whatever, but still, uh,
that was impressive. So you know, with Micah has changed
the direction his acceleration and his speed. He can't he
cannot only hit you hard, but he can run you down.
So I know you're getting into the of like the
Dallas Cowboys and making that trade. It doesn't make any
(15:03):
sense to me because you kind of paid Duran Bland
to kind of distract from the fact that you traded
away Micah Parsons. And I'm always for guys getting the bread.
I'm happy for Doran, but we're not gonna forget that
you just trade or traded away the actual generational talent
that you've been looking for, and you got only two
(15:24):
first round picks form and those two first round picks,
you know what they're you're hoping they become. Then you're
hoping they become Micah Parsons. So that to me, you
got to get at least three first round picks for
him if you're going to trade them away. I've heard
a lot of stuff behind the scenes when it comes
to Micah, but on the football field, his production is
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very hard to replicate. You have to ask yourself who's
in a better position now to win the Super Bowl?
Is it the Dallas Cowboys or is it the Green
Bay Packers? And I think overwhelmingly it's the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Great to talk to you as always, have fun, safe
travels to cd ON.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Appreciate you, brother, Let's talk soon.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
That's RG three.
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Luke Decock Raleigh News and Observer sports columnists for seventeen
years covering North Carolina football. Well, last time I had
you on, I don't know how optimistic you sounded there,
but house morale in North Carolina today.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's fair to say that
things did kna go was planned in the Bill Belichick
debut last night.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
The first six minutes they get out their eighty three
yard touchdown drive, very clean, very crisp three and out
on their first defensive series, and you were like, oh, hey,
you know, maybe these guys did split the atom. And
then the next fifty four minutes looked like pretty much
every era of North Carolina football and the history of
North Carolina football. The talent level, I think is the
(17:32):
more disturbing thing than the coaching. It just, you know,
it looked almost like one of the late David Cutcliffe
era duke teams or where you're just kind of getting
beat at every position. The secondary was full of transfers.
It got torn apart. Their two best offensive players were
guys who were holdovers from the Mac Brown era. It
just it did not look like an acc caliber team.
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It looked like, you know, a stew of a bunch
of things thrown together hoping that the celebrity chef could
make something out of it. And you know, you're up
against an established program with a philosophy and a foundation
and a background. And TCU did what you would expect
them to do. They went up against the team they
didn't know anything about. They made quick adjustments, effective adjustments,
and unc never adjusted. It was, you know, kind of
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the debacle. The last time you and I talked, we're like,
how bad could this potentially get? I think this is
how bad it could potentially get.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Okay, it is one game, and I always caution people
whether they're criticizing Arch Manning or Alabama or it's one game.
But there can be breadcrumbs that are put down that
you go. I don't know, if I keep following this,
it may end up worse than this. I think the
over under was eight and a half for Carolina. Where
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would you stand on that bet today?
Speaker 8 (18:50):
Yeah, I'm still under. I mean I think to get
to nine wins time wins, you had to win this one.
That's kind of predicated on getting off to a good start.
You know, you win the TCU game, You've got all
this hype. You've got Michael Jordan, Lawrence Taylor, Mia hamm
Roy Williams. Not that Roy miss is a UNC football game,
but you had the national sports world watching, and you know,
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Herb Street and Rhys Davis and Pat McAfee and Herbie's
dog and like everybody on the planets watching this football game.
And you're trying to capture all this momentum. You had
nine months to prepare. The eyes of the world are
on Chapel Hill. You've got all these stuff that they've trademarked,
Chapel Bill and Bill's version and all this stuff, and
then you ought to lay an egg like that. It
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certainly if this was going to be what we had
been pitched, what the unc boosters and trustees had paid
all these millions of dollars for It was not going
to look like this.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Off the hop.
Speaker 8 (19:44):
Now, yeah, it doesn't mean that they can't regroup and
figure things out and maybe make some changes in terms
of who's playing and who's on the depth chart. But
you know, the vision that was out there did not
start like this. This was pretty grim. And to be honest,
that second half, you know, TCU comes out, scores a
seventy five yard touchdown on the first play, Carolina costs
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it up for another TCU touchdown. I mean it, it's
you know, I hate to say like a team quit,
but it did look like Carolina ran out of gas
physically and emotionally and just couldn't keep up in the
second half. That's not a great sign in terms of
what are the breadcrumbs in terms of what could work
going forward? When you had six minutes of good football
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that you had nine months to prepare for and everything
else fell apart after that.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, and that's what I was going to bring up, Luke,
that you had all this time to prepare for this opponent,
you bring in seventy new players. Yes, you have Bill Belichick,
the King of adjustments, and I'm thinking, all right, TCU
is showing some life here. Offensively, Bill will make changes.
He did that famously with the Patriots. I just don't
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know if you can ask an eighteen or nineteen or
twenty year old to make adjustments on the fly like
he was asking professionals in New England. And maybe he
didn't have the talent that he thought, because there felt
like a real disparity, you know, in the second half
of the haves and the have nots, and.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
I honestly think it could have been worse than the
first half. There were opportunities for TCU to throw the
ball that they weren't taking because they really were you know,
like it's football, right, We're going to establish the run
game and get our go through our scheme and get
everything set up. And there were chances to take shots
deep against North Carolina secondary in the first half the
TCU passed on.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
They did not in the second half.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
And that would be the number one thing that would
worry me if I were Bill Belichick, you know, mister defense.
I mean, maybe there just weren't enough lacross players out there,
but the secondary's inability to cover and then the inability
to get pressure. I mean, it was just sort of
a cascading series of failures on defense, and then what
happened at that point the second half is the complete
(21:52):
inability to tackle. So now we've gone from adjustments to
cascading failures to just fundamentals. And if I'm Bill Belichick,
that what's going to keep me up last night more
than anything is we put together a roster that not
only can't make the adjustments you're talking about, but can't
do the basic things we need to do just to
win football games.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Talking to Luke de Kott, he's a sports columnist Raleigh
News and Observer covering North Carolina football for seventeen years.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Clemson at home in five weeks, Well.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
Yeah, I mean, look, Charlotte on the road. I mean, now,
it's your first road game, short turnaround from Monday to Saturday.
You got a lot of things you need to fix.
You got a million dollar quarterback who look terrible and
has a sore back. Now, there are issues with this team,
even if they had won this game, that have to
be resolved before the Charlotte get Now, look, Charlotte struggled
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in their opener. This is a game that you know,
it's crazy, Uns, he's gone on the road. This game
was set up years ago, as we all know in
college football, but this is no gimme. I mean, they
have got to get out there and find a way
to execute and do the things that they did on
that first drive and failed to do. It was just,
you know, the students were leaving, Like the third quarter
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wasn't even half over. The students were gone by the
end of the third quarter. The boosters who paid for
this were gone. I mean, it was just the way
that balloon punk was punctured and burst and that air
just went out of everything. That's tough for players too,
like they have to get back to where they were
going into this game to play a team that they're
not going to be excited about playing. Forget about Clemson,
I mean that you've got to get ready to play Charlotte,
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which is the kind of game that you would say, oh,
this is a potential letdown game. I mean, app State
and East Carolina are always tough games for these schools,
for UNC and Duke in State because those are the
biggest games on the calendar for those teams. And now
Carolina's got to go play in one of those games
against a team that's, you know, like everybody else this
season is going to be really fired up about the
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chance to prove itself against Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
How patient should people be? How patient will the Boosters
be with Bill?
Speaker 8 (23:56):
Boosters are going to be patient because they're pot committed now,
They've got no choice. I mean, they're there, this is
they made this bed. They're gonna have to sleep in it.
I think based on the fan reaction last night, the
patience has already gone. It's it's a little unfair. And look,
Carolina brought this on himself. Bill Belichick brought this on himself.
Michael Lombardi brought this on himself. They talked that they
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had untied the college football not they were gonna come in.
They were smarter than everybody else, they were better than
everybody else. And it turned like I'm telling you right now,
Dave dorn Over in Raleigh, the NC State coach last night,
I guarantee you he had a cigar, he had a
solo cup of whiskey. He's got his feet up, he's
laughing his butt off, like these guys just came in.
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We are so much better than you. We have this
figured out. We have Super Bowl rings and they got there.
You know, they got embarrassed in their first college game.
I think the fans saw that too. There was a
very strong element of the Emperor's.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
New clothes last night.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
You know, I joked in my column like, you know,
forget the cutoff sleeves. Belichick got pants last night, like
he got exposed, and that, I think, more than anything,
really sort of put a pin in the idea that
you know, the UNC is going to be in the
CFP and they're going to revolutionize college football and you
know they've got a new paradigm. I mean, it was
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to get beat like that, to be out talented and
out coached and out adjusted, and to see what we've
known all on right. TCU out there out there tweeting
an image of the Hulu series and saying when's the
first episode? Like everybody is gunning for these guys and
they were totally unprepared for So I mean, to me,
the patience has already gone. People are just kind of
(25:38):
wondering how bad it's going to be. And again, look,
we talked about this a second ago. This is maybe
not the way the whole season is going to go, right,
Like you can get better. And if Bill Belichick is
the coach that he says he is and that UNC's
boosters are paying for, they will get better and they
will learn from this. And now they have film and
they know who they can trust in who they can't.
But you know, and if this was John summerl or
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Jeff Monkin or any of the other coaches they could
have hired, we all be saying, hey, what did you expect?
They have seventy new players, right, this is turnover. There's
gonna be growing pains, and this is gonna take time.
But that's not what Bill Belichick said. That's not what
he promised. They were coming in to change college football,
to be the thirty third NFL team. And I'm gonna
make the same joke I made this the last time
I was with you. Like, yes, this was very Cleveland
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Brown's esque. It was very much the thirty third NFL team.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Just to confirm North Carolina is still a basketball school.
Speaker 8 (26:27):
I mean, the only Jordan that still matters?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Oh is Michael Well? Weren't they together with the dignitaries
up there a h Lawrence.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
Taylor and Roy But hey, you know it's to me,
to me, this almost puts more pressure on Hubert Davis
because basketball is gonna have to make up for this.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
You know, the uniform still looked good last night, though, Luke,
that's the most important thing.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Of course. Yes, great to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I look forward to talking to you maybe after week
five when North Carolina is shocks Clemson and then what
are you going to write in your column? Then?
Speaker 8 (27:04):
I mean, hey, look man, I'm perfectly compared for my
own come up, and so they can turn this around.
But based on the early returns, I don't necessarily think
that's likely.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
It's certainly possible.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Thank you, Luke.
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Speaker 2 (27:29):
Matthew Stafford expect to play week one according to the RAMS,
and Micah Parson's working through a back issue. He is
expected to play in week one and may need an epidural.
Speaking of NFL news, Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback
senior NFL reporter who was also at the Ohio State
(27:49):
Texas game. Being in Ohio State, apologies there. What would
you wait, Okay, your takeaway from arch Manning was what he's.
Speaker 9 (28:00):
A kid in his first game as the true starting quarterback,
his first game against an elite opponent, and I actually
thought he showed some resilience making some big time throws
at the end of the game. There was the one
to There was one for the touchdown down the right sideline.
There was the one to the tight end down the
left sideline on the final possession of the game.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So was it perfect?
Speaker 9 (28:23):
No? I mean, Dan, I just look, and I've been
saying this for four months, like, I just think it's
as nine that anybody's projecting him to be the number
one pick in the draft.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
We don't know he might become that, but you know, I.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
Think there's so little that we've seen at this point
in scouts will tell you this is like, there's so
little you can take from two starts against a directional
school and what was the worst team in the SEC
last year. You don't know what's going to happen when
he gets knocked around a little bit. You don't know
what's going to happen when teams get five, six, seven
games of tape on him and now they're able to
(28:57):
game plan him.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
You don't know what's going to happen when he plays
in opponent.
Speaker 9 (29:01):
And this is a process that all young quarterbacks have
to go through.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
And because of his last name, he's.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Been elevated to this level where.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
The expectations are almost impossible.
Speaker 9 (29:11):
I mean, go back and look at like what cam
Ward's first five or six games at Washington State looked
like when he went from Incarnate Word to Washington State. Now,
this is the guy who became the first pick in
the draft, right and he'd play. He had started for
two years at a lower level of college football, and
I think there was a i want to say, a
four game stretch where he threw seven picks. Nobody cared
(29:33):
because his last name's Ward, not Manning, you know. So yeah,
I think there's a lot of talent there. I think
the kid's got a great head on his shoulders by
all accounts. Like you know, I talked to Quinn Yours
about him earlier in the offseason, and Quinn loves him.
And that's a kid who would have every reason not
to like him. Loves him, you know. And I've even
seen some things that Archie has said that show a
tremendous amount of self awareness, you know, like where he
(29:56):
says things like, you know, I can't wait to see
what it looks like when I have I throw my
first pick, and now everybody goes from thinking I'm the
best player in the world to the worst player in
the world.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I think he's got the head and the talent to
work through all this.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
But I think what you saw on Saturday was part
of the process of becoming a big time quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Will be less patient with Bill Belichick and the results
at North Carolina. What would you say would be it's
one game, obviously, but a little bit more disturbing that
this could be Yeah, maybe season one, maybe more systemic.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
Yeah, So I would say, you know, I expected them
to lose a game. I just think TCU has got
better players, and the reality is they were a talent
deficit in that game. That's a well coached team, you know,
say Lubick took them to the National semi the National
championship game just a few years ago. It's not some pushover.
They were playing in Week one, So I thought they'd lose.
(30:56):
What surprised me was like, what a bleep show it
turned into in the third quo and I don't know
if you like how much of the game he watched him,
but to me, the third quarter it was, I mean,
it was like almost bad news bears ish. Maybe I'm
dating myself.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
A little bit with that reference, but.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
You know, the first play from scrimmage is seventy five
yard touchdown. On the second possession, they convert third and
twenty with a steam route right down Main Street, and
then you know, the running back scores in the next
play untouched from twenty eight yards out, you know, and
then you had that the fumble return for a touchdown
a little.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Bit after that.
Speaker 9 (31:32):
It just it felt like the team wasn't prepared, you know,
to come out of the locker room for the second half.
And that was what was alarming to me about it.
It wasn't it wasn't again, it wasn't that they'd lose
the game. I thought they'd lose the game. It was
the way that it looked towards the end. And so,
you know, I think Bill knows he's got a lot
(31:53):
of work to do, but that was something I think
you wouldn't expect from a Bill Belichick coach team, regardless
of how long or short he's been in a place.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Okay, you're not reporting this, but if I said, if
you were going to bet on this, what is Bill
Belichick doing a year.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
From now coaching North Carolina?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, I think, like I mean.
Speaker 9 (32:14):
Look like there's seventy new players and that's the number, right, Yeah, Okay,
So Dion Sanders went through this two years ago of Colorado,
and I think Dion, if I remember I didn't he
beat TCU in his first game.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Isn't that right? But then what was their record?
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I think they won more four games.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Right, So, like Dion eventually got there.
Speaker 9 (32:35):
But I think some people looked at that and underestimated,
like what a herculean task it is to turn over
that much of the of the roster when you're dealing
with like nineteen twenty twenty one year old kids, you know,
and maybe Bill, you know, like underestimated what that what
what the what the task there would be. But that's
(32:56):
a really serious overhaul of a college program. And I think,
you know, now it's the benefit of having like at
least a game of evidence of it. It might have
been too much to ask, to ask for a really
great performance right out of the gate.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Talking Albert Breer the Monday Morning Quarterbacks senior NFL reporter,
how many teams were in play for Micah Parsons.
Speaker 9 (33:21):
I think the number was it was six, like and
at the very end maybe less, but there were six
that were involved, and you know, the Cowboys took what
they felt like was the best offer. Now, I think
that the thing that people are missing here, and I
think this is a really interesting nuance to it, is
(33:41):
that there's a bigger picture thought here for Dallas and
what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
And I'm not going to tell you that they didn't
want to resign Micah.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
They did, but when things broke down in the spring,
they had a series of conversations about like, okay, like
what are we trying to do here?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
We haven't been to an.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
NFC championship game, let alone a super Bowl only nine years.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
That's the third longest drought in the NFL.
Speaker 9 (34:04):
Yet we've I think they're top ten, top seven or
eight maybe and wins over that same period. So you've
been consistently really good, but never good enough, right like
at the end, you know, and I think they, you know,
with a new head coach now, Brian Schottenheimer started to
look in the mirror a little bit about it, you know,
and it.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Was like, okay, Like, so, if we are going.
Speaker 9 (34:27):
To get to a point where we're going to trade
Micah Parsons, is there some sort.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Of pivot we want to make here?
Speaker 9 (34:33):
And that pivot wound up being we want to like
really lean in on what Brian Schottenheimer's trying to build here,
which you've heard him use the phrase the greatest culture
in professional sports, and maybe that's a little bit hyperbole,
but like that's the idea of what.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
They're trying to do there.
Speaker 9 (34:47):
And then you look at their first two draft picks
in April, and it was two guys who are just
middle of the fairway from a makeup and character standpoint,
and Tyler Booker from Alabama and Donovan Azeraku from Boston College,
really productive college players who are really great people. And
then you look at what Dallas did here, right like,
which not all six of the teams had two first
(35:08):
round picks on the on the table, but the rough
ask was two first round picks and a player that
can be useful for us, and the Cowboys actually asked
for Kenny Clark. And I think the Packers were taken
aback a little bit by that, thinking like well, they.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Lost DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
They they're losing Micha Parsons here, we thought maybe they'd
want an edge player and Packers people were heartbroken like
losing Kenny Clark right. The reason why is because the
person he is, and I think that that was a
huge part. That was a huge part of why Dallas
asked specifically for him, because it's leaning into what they're
trying to build and leaning into that whole We're gonna
(35:45):
have the greatest culture in the NFL thing, and maybe
that'll be the difference maker for us. Now we'll work,
we'll see. But in drafting Booker and drafting as Iraku
and now bringing in Kenny Clark, I think they're kind
of looking at it and saying, how can we make
the locker room the best locker room in the NFL?
And how can we empower Dak Prescott to be the
(36:05):
leader of the team. And we'll see how all that
works out. But Michah Parsons didn't really fit into that. Now, again,
they wanted to resign them. I'm not saying they didn't
want to resign them, but the idea was, if we
do move on from this guy, what are we going
to do.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
And I think you see a pretty clear.
Speaker 9 (36:19):
Vision for what they're going to do on the field
with the run stopping stuff that they've said a million
times now, but also off the field.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Yeah, I mean you don't bring in George Pickens if
you're talking about the locker room.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah, but that's for a year.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Okay, But I mean, okay, now you can stop the run. Now,
can you stop the pounds? You know, you and.
Speaker 9 (36:38):
I understand, and I understand there's a lot of that
right like in the Pickens things.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
That's a good rebuttal there's.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
No question like that's a big risk for them, you know,
but that's for a year and you'll see where that goes.
And in the meantime, like they are able to take
that money and and and sign some of their own guys,
you know, I mean dorn Blans want got done over
the last couple of days. Tyler Smith's another, you know,
(37:04):
you know, a real like foundation piece for them on
the offensive line that they plan to resign.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Like these things would.
Speaker 9 (37:10):
Be more difficult if you had Michael Parsons making between
forty five and fifty million dollars a year. So again,
like I think there's just sort of a big picture
idea here in the way that they're going.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
To handle it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
But Kenny Clark helps you now, but you don't need
help now. He's not the future. You're getting his two
first round picks. I mean, how did Jamal Adams got three?
There was three first round picks for Jamal Adams for
the Jetst. I just don't understand. If I look at
some of these other players who've been traded, defensive players, Yeah,
(37:44):
you got a lot more for these guys.
Speaker 9 (37:46):
And I think that that, like that to me, is
another valid criticism, is like, if you were talking about
this in March and April, right, then you should have
created the tension point with your player then. And I
think that that piece of it, to me, is really
important because if you are putting Micah Parsons on the
market in March and April, there's way more of a
(38:09):
market for him. It's tough to trade a guy right
before the start of the season. Teams budgets are set,
their caps are set, their rosters are set. Like when
you're talking about bringing in a player of this magnitude,
like that's a big thing. The capital that you got
to fork over for him, and the contract you got
(38:31):
to fork over, Like that's a lot. And if you're
looking at the idea of this and you say you
put them on the market in March or April, well
then you're probably going to have more teams involved, because
more teams are gonna, you know, sort of have stayed
loose at that point with an ability to pivot and
make moves at certain positions that you wouldn't be able
to make in a summer. And then you know, like
(38:54):
you're also the other benefit of doing it then is
that you're actually going to get one of those picks
on your team this year, you know what I mean, Like,
so instead of having to wait until twenty six and
twenty seven to have those guys in your team, like,
whatever picks you get in twenty five, now those teams,
those guys are going to help you right now. So
I think that's a very valid criticism that they shouldn't
have let this thing linger. They shouldn't have let it
(39:14):
go through camp one hundred percent. I'm with you on that, Like,
that's a fair criticism, and they should have reached this
tension point with Michaeh Parsons and David Mulligetta and all
the people in that camp way earlier than they did.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
You got your Super Bowl pick.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I can't remember who I picked, and I don't want
to go again. It was Buffalo, and who do I pick?
Speaker 9 (39:40):
I can tell how much work I put into this stand,
how much I uh, I picked Buffalo and the Rams.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
I think even it Stafford's bank.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I think the Rams are gonna be really good, and
I think Devanta Adams, Oh, I think they're going to
be good.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
But I'm I'm only worried about Matthewson. They go Matthew,
Stafford goes.
Speaker 9 (40:01):
Yeah, they do, and I think, I think Matthews back
is going to be all right.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I just the people.
Speaker 9 (40:06):
That I've talked to there the I'm not minimizing like
what he's dealing with. He's definitely dealing with a serious injury.
But they felt like they could have.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Thrown him out there early in camp.
Speaker 9 (40:20):
And this was more about Matthew's only got so many
bullets left in the gun, and we don't need to
be firing those bullets in the first week of August
or the second week of August, especially when Jimmy Garoppolo
is on the bench and he can come in and
run our offense at a starting caliber level, so the
other ten guys in the huddle can get all the
reps that they need running our offense.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
To get ready for the season.
Speaker 9 (40:43):
So, you know, I I that was sort of the
approach that they took, like until he's one hundred percent,
we're not going to put him out there, and they
got very close to that, you know, and before putting
him out there. And Matthew has managed these things too,
like he's had you know, I think from all the
damage she took over the years in Detroit, like as
extentsial injuries for a quarterback a wrist and elbow, so
(41:07):
you know, back is definitely not good for an older guy.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
But he's managed this sort of thing in.
Speaker 9 (41:11):
The past, and I personally think like they'll be able
to manage him through the through the season. And they've
got a damn good team around him. Like I think,
if you look at the young talent on that team
and the job that they've done moving out of like
the Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, Cooper Cup era, they've done
a really really nice job of.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Reworking that roster. I think they're going to be right
in it till the end.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Tampa Bay bandwagon is starting to fill up in first class.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I like the Bucks too.
Speaker 9 (41:39):
I mean, the amazing thing about the Bucks if you
look at the roster, the number of guys that are
homegrown and the depth they have there and the way
that they've been able to kind of go from the
Brady era group. It's the same thing I was talking
about the Rams, and then draft and develop young guys
and and and get a year ahead of things like.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Like a Mecca.
Speaker 9 (42:02):
Abuka might be not might might not be a big
might not feel a big need for them right now
with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin coming back off the injury,
but that's going to be a big need a year
or two in all likelihood, right, so you get that
taken care of now. They've done a really good job
of restocking their roster, having Zioncolum ready to go.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
As Carlton Davis was walking.
Speaker 9 (42:24):
Out the door, you know, like they've just done a
really good job of continuing to i mean, churn that
roster where when older players are on their way out,
they have an answer. And and I think Baker Mayfield
is is pretty underrated too. I think I think Baker's
got a chance to have a dynamite year.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Always great to talk to you. Thank you, Albert, all.
Speaker 9 (42:48):
Right, thanks Dan, and by the way, thanks for the
fantasy draft. Your secret is safe with us. I will
say that we took every precaution.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Necessary to make sure of it.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yes, some of those team names. You wouldn't want me
saying that around your wife, would you. But you can
see you can say mine, right I could. They have
all these descriptive names. Albert Alberts Fantasy League. Albert's team
is called Albert's Team.
Speaker 9 (43:11):
That's because when we changed platforms, I forgot to rename it,
so mine wasn't very good before that.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Either everybody has some wild inappropriate name, and then his
is Albert's team.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah that was I think that was yeahoo.
Speaker 9 (43:25):
I think that was the automatic Yahoo name that they
slapped on it. But but everybody appreciated it was really good.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
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