September 10, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan and the Danettes consider Tyreek Hill’s status in Miami and wonder if he’ll embrace a leadership role or become a locker room distraction for the Dolphins. And former NFL QB David Carr joins the show to talk some pigskin.
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The speculation, and I want to emphasize speculation has already
started on Tyreek Hill. Mention this on Monday and even
the previous week that I wouldn't be surprised if he's
traded at some point during this season. Now, once again,
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if they're out of it and the speculation has already
started off, what would you have to give? And I
mentioned that I could see him going back to Kansas City.
The other team that was mentioned the Pittsburgh Steelers. So
it's just speculation here. But if things go south in
South Florida, then what's Tyreek Hilworth? And the speculation was
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anywhere from a fourth, fifth or sixth round pick, But
you're going to take that money off the books. He's
going to be making what thirty million dollars and last
year of his contract. Once again, it's only speculation, but
it is starting and he's got off the field issues
with his ex wife that he's dealing with that as well.
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But if you watched him on the sidelines and the
game against the Colts, he is drawing at somebody. He
was not happy, and of course they got blown out.
But if they're not in any kind of playoff picture,
then I could see them during the doing their best
to get rid of that contract. There all right, age
(02:19):
seven to seven to three DP show operator Tyler standing,
But what's going on? Second hour here? Stumbling through here?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yes, Paul, by the way, I went back and looked,
and I know it was kind of a mutual decision
with Tyreek Hill in Kansas City because of finances, but
Tyreek Hill was on his way to being a first
ballot Hall of Famer with Kansas City. I think he
had gone to he was first team All Pro four
out of five years, while Holmes had one great year
in Miami and then it's cooled off quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
But he did say, you know, he loved Tua, but
Tua was critical of him, saying that in the offseason
he kind of needed to, you know, own up to
his immaturity here and be a leader. And by all accounts,
it sounded like that's what he was doing. It certainly
didn't look like that Week one against the Colts. Yes, Marvin,
could this.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Be an Antonio Brown situation where you look at his
numbers and for a five or six year stretch he
was one of the best, if not the best receiver
in football and it just kind of fell off.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, I don't know what that is of trying to
keep that window of five or six years of being
great and Antonio Brown was on his way to the
Hall of Fame and Tyreek Hill, I agree with PAULI
like that that's how you start a Hall of Fame
resume and then all of a sudden, it's tailed off,
and for whatever reason it's tailed off. I mean Antonio Brown,
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you know he that was career suicide, and it might
be the same with Tyreek Hill. And I wouldn't be
surprised if now it felt like he had some cryptic
social media post where I'm out of here. But maybe
that's not cryptic. That pretty directly yeah, I'm out of here?
What do you mean by that? I'm out of here?
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But then, you know, now talking him down off the
ledge and then here we go, and let's let's see
what he does in week two against New England. Say
if he puts up some big numbers that he gets
his touches, and then maybe everything's okay. After that, it's
not going to be okay in the long run because
it feels like this is it. Do I want to
spend thirty million dollars on him? No, unless I'm a contender,
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But I don't know if the Dolphins are a contender.
They certainly didn't look like that against the Colts. All right,
poll question for hour two is going to be what seedon?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Well we got up there right now? Where does South
Florida belong in the top ten?
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Well, actually, in the top twenty five.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, your options are are they top ten, eleven through
twenty or twenty one plus Right now, eleven through twenty
has about fifty six percent of that vote. Eleven have
them in the top ten, then those are your people.
That's your group right there.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
But it could come crashing down. They have Miami and
they're a big underdog against Miami this weekend.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yes, Paul, I watch a lot of college football, and
here's the rationale. You put South Florida at eighteen and nice,
I look at them. They beat Florida. You put them
at eighteen. If they somehow get waxed by him Miami
this week, you could easily drop them out of the
top twenty.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Matlok foolish Jared in Tampa, Hi, Jared, Hey Dan six
foot one, eighties.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Hey, I know that you're hopping on the USF bandwagon
here and there is plenty of room. One of the
things for the long haul that might be interesting is
we have this quarterback. He's a freshman from the UK,
Sam Fenton, and he came up through a UK high
school and now he's at US UP. So something to
you know. I don't know how this weekend's gonna go,
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but something to watch for.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
The long haul.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
Thanks for having me on and hate to my dad,
who I know is listening.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
All right, thank you, Jared, Yeah, all right, I appreciate that.
Another reason to root for South Flora or be curious
about them, just like me watching BYU Stanford re Air
last night. Because they have a quarterback who's number forty
seven and I believe his name is Bear. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
Now, now for South Florida.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
If they have a good loss, say if they lose
by seven, do you still keep them in the top
twenty five?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah? Okay, yeah, I mean they're supposed to lose this game. Yeah.
You start to look at these sacrificial lambs. So I
expected Grambling to be blown out by Ohio State, and
they were. I did not expect Oregon to blow out
Oklahoma State. Oklaoma State is not Grambling. Grambling is going
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there to get a paycheck and get blown out and
have their band, you know, get to play at the
horseshoe Oklomas State. That's big time football, we thought. And
that's what's shocking. If you're one of these smaller schools,
you know you're gonna get beat. The question is how badly,
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Okloma State. You don't lose sixty nine to three.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
They were ten and four two years ago.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I am a man that one. I don't know if
there'll be a more shocking law. There will be a
more shocking loss, but that was one of those. I'm
watching it and I'm going that's Oklahoma State. That's my gundhy.
I mean, even if you lost by three touchdowns, okay,
sixty nine to three, And these sideline reporters who have
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to ask a coach what kind of adjustments are you
going to make in the second half? Hey, any positives
that you take from the first half? Coach? Well, my
field goal kicker gave us three. That's about it. That's
where if you're the sideline reporter and you go, Okay,
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I'm gonna have to talk. I gotta ask him a
couple of questions. And then that's where you go to
your producer. You got any suggestions here?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Can you can you say to Mike Gundy when you're
down by forty at halftime, dude and just say that, dude.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
That was rough?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yes, Marvin. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
All I keep going back to is Barry Sanders went there. Yeah,
Das Bryant went there. T Boom Pickings spent many millions
and millions of dollars for that school not to be
an embarrassment, and they did him dirty.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Dang Jeff and Nashville. Hi, Jeff, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (08:38):
Heay a long time first time six three two five.
Well to talk of firing head coach Brian Calla. And
is there a benefits of firing and NFL coach midseason?
And why would you do it? For the fan base,
for the locker room? And it doesn't it show the
team that's punted on the season.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Well, wait a minute, are you calling for him to
be fired?
Speaker 9 (08:57):
Oh? I don't know. I don't think eighteen games is
a good enough sample. But they're not they're not improving.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well, it's only one game. Let's just slow down. You
don't you don't want to be This isn't a fantasy league.
I mean, this is real and you've got a quarterback.
Let's see what he can do. Maybe maybe in that
division you could surprise some people. But I'm I'm not
firing my coach. And they don't like these owners don't
(09:26):
like firing coaches and have to pay out their contracts. Yeah,
Pauling but.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
If you're a Titans fan, it's not the coach, it's
management ownership. Three years ago, four years ago, you had
Derrick Henry under contract, you had you had a good coach,
Mike Rabel under contract, you had Aj Brown under contract.
You let all the talent in your building leave.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, it's not the head coach you had Christian McCaffrey.
I mean, you've had uh oh, Titans. But you know
you've got something here. You that's something here. I don't
the wise. I think that powder blue. I thought Christian McCaffrey. Yes, Marvin, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Things changed when they traded AJ Brown and Mike Rabel's
reactions like are you kidding me?
Speaker 8 (10:11):
No, you draft guys so they can be great players.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And then you get rid of him when he went
to that press conference and you could tell it's like,
I gotta somehow spin this, not gotta make this a positive.
It's some of the best acting, though that I've seen.
Uh Nick in New Mexico. Hi Nick, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 10 (10:33):
Hey Dan? First time, long time, six' one two twenty.
Thank you boys. Have a Gallagher story for you. I
used to be a marketing director for Whole Foods and
I'd get PR requests from people that wanted to visit
the store, so I got believe it or not, Gallagher
had PR at the time, and he came in. It
was a fall. We did not have watermelons. He was
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so upset that he had He was without his signature
fruit to smash, and so we we were looking at alternatives.
We were roasting green chilly at the time and doing
some fresh made salta and I came up with the
idea to smash some jars of salt so that would
flatter everywhere. And he got really upset with that idea,
and so they decided to do a little meat and great,
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see if people recognized him. No one did without his watermelon.
So he left after like twenty minutes and not good.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
No, thank you.
Speaker 10 (11:23):
Nick.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Didn't know that I would be stumbling onto Gallagher stories today,
but some of the famous South Florida alum Gallagher and
his watermelons. Courtney in Indiana. Hi, Courtney, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 11 (11:39):
Hey? I'm just calling to give a shout out to
my cousin Devin Markabe. He's a running back for Purdue,
and a shout out to Purdue for turning their season round.
I know it's early and know the two games, but yes,
be usc this weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Alrighty Courtney, a little shout out, Hello, they turned their
season around.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
I know it's early.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know if you're can officially say
you've turned the season around after a couple of games, like.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Week to week, it started and then it turned around.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Back to back, Robin Orlando, Hi, Rob, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (12:12):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (12:12):
This was my original subject. But Nick and Nick talking
about smashing jars of salsa, no wonder. He's a former
PR guy, So first off, God bless Ritchie Man. He
is like a defensive back who has to have a
short memory. When something bad happens, he gets right back
on the horseman and I love that.
Speaker 10 (12:31):
And to solve the state.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Of Florida directional thing, it's really simple. South Florida is
only Vero Beach south on the east coast. Nobody thinks
of anything on the west coast of Florida, South Florida
being Naples for Myers anything.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Thank you, Rob, wasn't it the Giants defensive back Elvis Patterson,
whose nickname was toast yep, toast because he got burned
all the time. What a nickname for a defensive back, Todd.
That might be your nickname, your toast toast. Yeah, it
doesn't seem to have a positive connotation, no, but but
you keep coming back though, you keep lining up ready
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to go the way toast? Does you have you have
no memory of getting burned? Scott in Tampa? Hi, Scott,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (13:18):
Hey guys, first time, long time five eight two twenty.
So I went to USF. I graduated in two thousand
and nine. But uh so I remember back when we
were at number two. What happened was, I think we'd
be Auburn. I think there were reckd six and we'd
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beat West Virginia at number four, and then we got
bumped up to number two, and I remember it was
a crazy over ranking, and I think it kind of destroyed,
like our psyche going into overhyped that. I think we
got beat by a Ray Rice and Greg Ciano coach Rutgers.
Then probably poor choice of words, but they knocked us
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out as the number two spot.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
All right, thank you, Scott? Yeah, cheer up, Scott. Sound
down in the dumps. Teams ranked in the top twenty five. Yeah,
I forgot, you know, they were up to number two
in the country a few years ago. Remember one Rutgers
wasn't Rutgers number one in the country after winning a
like a Monday night game on ESPN, and everybody went crazy, Paulie.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
The best I could find is six. Rutgers got to
seven in the AP poll, which might as well be
number one. For Rutgers break in the top ten?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Did they beat the number one team?
Speaker 8 (14:38):
Seven?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Is a new jersey one, that's a new jersey one.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
It's a new jersey, the hard new jersey one.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yes, because but that was the thing with they keep
on chopping thing with Gianna.
Speaker 12 (14:46):
People kind of rallied around that for a little while.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I thought they won a huge game I think on
ESPN one night, and do you remember that, Marvin they did.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I can't remember who it was, but I think it
was like a last second field. Go Eto was the kicker. Oh,
I gotta look judge Edo.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Okay, they beat Louisville number three, Louisville twenty twenty five
on November sixth, next thing, you know, the rank seventh
in the country and they promptly lost to Cincinnati in
West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Okay, yeah, now that was a big deal. But I
think that was on ESPN.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
They were so popular at the time. Rutgers are catching
fire that James Gandalfini did a commercial for them and
like appear in a commercial to promote them.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yes, Todd Rutgers football and Gallagher not on the Bengo
cars here.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That'll all right. When we come back, we'll talk football
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Sunday at eleven thirty am Eastern on NFL Network. What
was the biggest school to offer you a scholarship?
Speaker 14 (17:37):
UCLA and Washington? But Pat Hill was not going to
have that. Dan, you know, he was gonna. He rolled
into my house fresh off the airplane in Cleveland as
the offensive line assistant, and he had a taped up
duffel bag, sat down in my living room and just
wouldn't leave. I was like, Pat, we gotta get a
flight tomorrow to go to Washington.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
Maybe you said.
Speaker 14 (17:54):
He's like, no, you're gonna play quarterback for me. We're
going to handle the trenches. And it was just so
unique and he's he's my favorite. I saw him two
days ago with Derek and we went over and just
kind of spent some time with him.
Speaker 8 (18:05):
But he's still out there.
Speaker 14 (18:06):
He's still at Fresno State holding the cards for the
practice squad, like he literally is running the scout team
defense to get those guys ready.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
So love his heart. Man, He's awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
More important to have a better relationship with your head
coach or your offensive coordinator.
Speaker 14 (18:21):
Offensive coordinator, hands down, he's the guy that he's in
your ear, the head coach. You know, if you have
a defensive mind, head coach, you rarely talked to him.
I remember I talked to Don Capers in Houston right
before the game, like about an hour hour and a
half before the game. In his office, and it was like, oh, hey,
it's good to see you, Like what's the plan today?
Speaker 8 (18:38):
And it's really unique. But the offense corny, you talk
to you at every way.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
So your debut, you didn't talk to your head coach
until an hour before the game, not.
Speaker 14 (18:48):
Like a formal meeting or nothing really ext as those wise.
He just kind of brought me in his office, like
this is cool. It's like being in the principal's.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
Office a little bit. How are we going to do
this thing? But it worked out all right.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
But that coordinator you're tied to and we find well,
you can look at track records with quarterbacks and go
how many offensive coordinators have they burned through or head
coaches there, And sometimes we don't factor that in when
somebody's successful or they're not. But we should factor that
in a lot more than we do.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
Yeah. Absolutely shit.
Speaker 14 (19:17):
I mean I think that it's just so difficult because
you invest all of your time and energy into learning
this system and like ingraining it into your vocabulary. I
mean so much so that my wife will tell you
I would literally like say audibles in my sleep and
I would just bark out these kides and say it's
like you have to internalize it, and then it's like, Okay,
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well he's not good enough, let's get another one.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
And hey, you got to memorize all these calls.
Speaker 14 (19:42):
I've gotten to the line of scrimmers before and called
the wrong audible from the previous offense. I did it
with I did it in New York, so they've just
come off with Super Bowl. I landed it with the Giants.
I go up to the line of scrimmage. I know
the play I want to get two weeks side inside
zone run and I checked to the wrong play and
Shan O'Hara turns around, looks at me.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
He's like, what literally, mid play? I got it right?
You figured it out for me. Having a great sinner's
always a good backup plan.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
But is there like common verbiage though for all quarterbacks
that you know, maybe a different color or a number
or whatever, but it always sort of the same.
Speaker 8 (20:16):
All the plays are the same, Like we just we
just call him something different.
Speaker 14 (20:19):
So what you have to do is I actually heard
a great Keenan McCardell or Keenan Allen was talking about
this before the broadcast of the day Chargers Chiefs and
he's like, Honestly, it's the same plays. I just have
to kind of memorize what words they're using, and so
it's all the same stuff.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
And it's a copycat league.
Speaker 14 (20:33):
You see, like Ben Johnson's had success the last couple
of years, Well, everybody just rips his stuff. He's call
it something else, like, well, you just stole his copyright
infringement right here. But it's all the same stuff. You
just got to figure out what the new terms are.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Give me the team that stood out either good or
bad from week one.
Speaker 14 (20:49):
Well, Miami was Obviously it was on the same field
as the team that actually stood out as good. So
it's like you think Miami's going to go in there
with Tyreek and Okay, there's no captain ship there and
he maybe he's not the leader, he'll still make some plays.
But like the Indy, you know, Daniel Jones is the
guy that we ran out of town in New York.
He's not good enough to play there, and so he
lands in India and he's he's surrounded by a good cast. Obviously,
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Schematically had some good answers. He made some great checks
to the line of scrimmage. By the way, I mean
he was he was really on it. It was funny
because he looked like Peyton, you know, because you get
in the same uniform, you're in that building, you start
to say, well, he's got the same mannerisms. It's it's
really unique. So I'm gonna study and follow Indy the
rest of the year. But Miami was kind of disappointing.
But they'll bounce back. They'll be okay too. It didn't
play as bad as people thought, you did. They have
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some schematic issues like they were they were bringing extra
pressures off the edges. They really hit him with some
some timely blitzes that that wasn't fortunate for Miami.
Speaker 8 (21:38):
That was that was unique.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
You know.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
I think that when you look around, like the.
Speaker 14 (21:41):
Quarterbacks that moved into different scenarios, Like you talk about Russ,
Like Russ was on a playoff team last year. He
lands in New York and now, oh he can't play anymore. Well,
you know, Daniel Jones left New York and now he
all of a sudden can play. So it's like, are
we talking about the scenario, are we talking about the
you know, the surrounding components, or are we talking about
specific players. So I think that's that's gonna be the
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fun part as we go forward, is like, these guys
are in good situations, they're gonna play well. These guys
are in bad situations, They're not gonna play well. Like
is Jackson Dart going in in New York? Like, I
don't necessarily think Jackson Dart's gonna solve your problems that
you have in New York.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So it'll be fun to watch it. He's David Carr,
NFL Network analyst. You can see him on the NFL
Game Day Final this Sunday at eleven thirty am Eastern
on NFL Network. When Peyton changed the game calling plays
at the line of scrimmage, was there pressure on other
quarterbacks and offensive coordinators like we have to do the
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same thing.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
We tried to mimic it, like there was even a
scenario we played the Rams.
Speaker 14 (22:38):
So I feel like I'm responsible for the birth of
Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Fits magic because so we're playing
the Rams at home in Houston. My offensive coordinator decides, Hey,
we're gonna let you go to the line of scrimmage
and call your own place. I'm like, fantastic, that's great.
We're gonna get one formation. So we played fast. I mean,
I didn't have a ton of them Peyton has. I
mean it's endless his catalog that he can get to you.
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I had like seven plays, right, So we ran our
seven plays. We get up, we get up twenty one,
we're up like we're winning. And then we get to
the halftime and the offensive preneer comes in and he says, hey,
that was great. You know, but what we're gonna do
now is we're going to establish the run. So he
takes the play sheet from me. So now he goes
into his'n we're gonna hang onto the ball.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
We're gonna keep it away from him.
Speaker 14 (23:19):
Here comes the points, right, Ryan Fitzpatrick blasts his way
all the way back. They end up beating us on
the last play of the game because we just got
he got taken away. But it was so fun, it
was so freeing, Like as a quarterback, I just I
loved having that ability and that freedom, and you end
up taking that ownership. It's like if you're teaching, if
you're teaching someone something like you just automatically you learn
it better yourself.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
And I think that that's the fun part about that,
and that's kind of what I miss.
Speaker 14 (23:43):
Honestly about the current quarterback state is there's not a
lot of those guys doing that anymore. There are some,
and like, that's why I got so excited about Daniel
Jones because he's up there making checks, moving guys around.
He has that ability he has. Dak was doing that
the other day. Didn't win, but Dak's got full ownership.
That was in Oxnard watching them practice. He's going to
play better this year. See he's gonna catch the ball.
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Obviously he might actually turn out to be a good receiver.
But there's those types of players. I still think you
have to be able to do that because you look
at Josh Allen, you look as great as Josh is
love Josh at Lamar at some point, like why haven't
they been able to get over the hump? It's because
of that. It's because of that ownership at the line
of scrimmage in those crucial situations. That's why Pat Mahomes
is still the guy. Like you can say what you
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want about him, maybe put him down the list four
or five, but when it comes down to it, his
notes are meticulous. He's got a great play caller. They
know the answers to the test they know the problems
that you're going to bring them, and they have answers
for him. And I think that there's still that element
that you have to have that component and Brad. If
Brady was here, he'd be telling you like, that's all
that matters. I still think that there's a physicality about it.
Like you see, you know, Lamar's back there running down
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John Hussey where now the referee is in a full
sprint trying to get away from him. Lamar ends up
making thirty yards. There's the element of that that you
have to have to play quarterback in this league still,
but you have to be able to win and diagnose
problems from the pocket and solve them.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That's why when we get rankings, I say, well that's
regular season, because if we if we have postseason rankings,
the rankings are completely different. You have Mahomes and jay
Lenmore right, that's right.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
I couldn't agree more that one to exactly right.
Speaker 14 (25:12):
They're one, two and and that's exactly for that reason
that we laid out and we're like, well, what's the difference.
That is the difference because you get guys like Steve Spagnola,
you get these defensive coordinators that know your protection seam
better than you, honestly, and I've talked to some of
these quarterbacks now I love them, they'll go nameless. They
don't know their protection schemes as well as some of
these defensive coordinators that are facing them. They know how
to bring the four week I mean, that's the reason
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that Jared Goff is no longer in LA because that
four week pressure that they didn't have an answer for.
They had to find a guy that could kind of
cover that up, and it was Matt Stafford. So there's
there's well when.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Stafford doing differently than Golf didn't recognize it.
Speaker 14 (25:48):
Well they didn't really, they didn't really ask him to
in some systems, and this is what happened to Miami
the other day. So two is getting hit by these
four week pressures, these extra safety defenders that they are
unaccounted for. And so in the systems you use you know,
type formations, use shifts, motions, the speed of Tyreek kill
and that little quick motion that work everyone's calling illegal,
Like you use that stuff to kind of cover that
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stuff up.
Speaker 8 (26:09):
But when it comes down to it, those.
Speaker 14 (26:11):
Good coordinators are going to time it up right where
they know, like Vic Fangio knows.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
I was with him in Houston.
Speaker 14 (26:16):
He believes that he can guess the offense is play
based on the personnel group in the down and distance,
and he's right a lot of times.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
So they win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 14 (26:24):
Because those guys understand how to attack structure, how to
attack quarterbacks, and it's just it.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
You got to have that. You got to have that
ability to pick that up. And Stafford.
Speaker 14 (26:33):
What Stafford does, honestly is he's just so good at
at defeating a buying time. They used to tell us
in the quarterback room. You bring that extra pressure. Hey
guys buy time, Like, Hey, hold on, I don't have
time to buy with what what.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
Credit am I using to buy this time?
Speaker 14 (26:45):
I don't have it. Man, I'm not that guy. So
but Stafford can just kind of make it physically. So
he kind of covers up for a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
We hear a lot of this. Uh, when you know
these guys come out of college that in college you
can have four seconds and you could get out of
trouble and you could hold onto the ball and you
can try to be a hero. You can't do that
in the NFL. But I'm curious about teaching getting the
ball out, teaching stepping up in the pocket as opposed
to rolling out away from pressure. Is it teachable to
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get the ball out as quickly as possible, to stay
in the pocket, all those things that you're taught you.
Speaker 14 (27:20):
So what happens is, and I've been in there, unfortunately,
when it's falling apart and guys are falling, you're getting pressure,
and it's just like, well, the only the only positive
play we had when I was in Houston at times
was me scrambling to the right and find Corey Bradford
after the play had already started right, so I would
just literally tell we'd get in the red zone, like Corey,
if I don't throw it to you right away, just
find me, work with me on the back end line.
And I literally threw like five or six touchdowns my
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second year just doing that because we couldn't hold up inside.
So that's the problem is because it's just human nature.
It's default for some of these guys to say I
can just scramble out, and I hate it.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
I did it a hundred thousand times as a quarterback.
Speaker 14 (27:53):
But the scramble out to the right throwaway or just
trying to find like it bothers me so much. I
have so much respect for the quarterback that can climb
and step up in the pocket and trust their guys.
So what you have to do is you have to
really lock in to your schematics. You have to really
trust your offensive coordinators. So you can tell the guys
that trust their ocs, that trust their play callers, they
climb up in the pocket, I trust that that fifth
guy is going to be there, or that for that
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checkdown is going to be there. The brock Purties finding
Christian McCaffrey, like Dak even did it the other day,
climbing up in the pocket, like he just trusts that
it's gonna we're gonna make it work. Joe Burrow does
that at time. Joe Burrow took some shots the other day. Ye,
I mean they were he was getting wrecked. But he trustsed,
he knows, he knows where his guys are. So it
really comes down to really digging into what you're doing,
your belief in your play caller and the fact he's
gonna put you in a good position.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Can you put us in the in that situation where
you're stepping up in the pocket and there's chaos around you.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
There's no there's no words that can describe it.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Man.
Speaker 14 (28:45):
It's just like you have to have such a faith
that your your guys are gonna win down the field,
that your scheme is right for the play that you have.
And that's why veteran quarterbacks so much want ownership of
the offense and kind of like we were talking about earlier,
where I want to I want to call to play
because I know that I know where the answer is
and if I get in trouble, I know I can
get out of it. The most, Like the thing that
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bothers you the most is when you have a protection
but you go to step up and you know you
don't have a winner. You know you don't have guys
that are gonna win, especially on the based on the
coverage that you have, and it's it's really hard because
then then you go back into those bad habits of
like let me just create, let me just try and
make a play, and now you're just out there, You're
you're not gonna consistently win. That's why like Brady was
always great because he would he would and even Manning,
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they know where they're going before the ball. Like you
talk about like he's staring down or zero. Absolutely, he's
staring to the exact spot on the field that he's
gonna throw this football. He's gonna do in less than
two seconds. Good luck getting to him. So if you
can get to that point in your offense, then you
got to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
But Brady could still play today.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
Absolutely, Absolutely, he can still play. Peyton can still play.
Speaker 14 (29:47):
I mean if you could throw at twenty yards, I
don't know if his neck would let him, but I mean, yeah,
it's you get to a point where if you can
just keep the physical ability like That's why it was
so interesting talking to Flacco. I went out to Cleveland,
saw him like, well, how do you feel because that's
what quarterbacks want to ask the veteran guys, like do
you feel like you can go out there and do
it physically? Because mentally, you know, the more reps you get,
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there isn't a defense on earth that these guys can
invent that you haven't seen and that you don't have
an answer for. So it's just keeping that physical ability
on par with your mental game.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Were you rooting for Caleb Williams to break your sack record?
Speaker 8 (30:21):
That's tough man. I don't look.
Speaker 14 (30:22):
I know how bad I felt at that moment, and
I didn't want because I was like contemplating, do I
want to play football anymore?
Speaker 8 (30:27):
Like this is kind of hard.
Speaker 14 (30:28):
I've played every sport, like I feel like you can
figure out eventually, Like you've played golf, like you're going
to figure it out, Like you give me enough time,
I'll find a way to win. But it was hard,
man like, because that's something that's so out of your control.
So for me, like when I'm watching him, I kind
of didn't want him to honestly, Like if I'm being honest,
like I didn't want him to break the records. I
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don't want anybody have to go through cause he might
not play football anymore, and like he might not want
to do it. It's so hard to go through all
the stuff we've talked about, ownership of the offense, leadership,
like being in the right place at the right time,
doing all the right things, and then you do everything right.
That's what I was That's why I struggled so much
with is Like I remember telling my wife one night,
I was like, I don't I don't know physically or
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mentally what else to do, Like I just don't. I
don't know what else to do. And so when you
get to that point, it's that's a tough. Someone's got
to bring you back, you know, because and it's it's
got to be something outside of yourself. So fortunately for me,
I had some great people around me and some good
coaches eventually, and I got to New York and I
found out football was easy. So, I mean, that was
that was my favorite part.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Seventy six sacks in one seat. So you're first and
third on the Oh.
Speaker 8 (31:32):
Yeah, don't worry.
Speaker 14 (31:33):
We Yeah, we went seventy six and then we we
kind of skipped a year, had a good year, had
I think fifty, and then we said, you know, we're
gonna go back up there where we got to get
our numbers up where we're He went from seventy six
and then.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Just back up to sixty eight.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 14 (31:46):
I feel great. New hip. I got brand new hip.
Titanum feels great. It's the best joint that I have
in my body. Works better than all the other ones.
It's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
We got your brother on tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
He's gonna be great.
Speaker 10 (31:57):
Man.
Speaker 14 (31:57):
He's so fun. He did that pregame show or Chiefs
the other day. He'll did great. He just loves talking football.
He loves talking football. So we're actually doing a show
Homegrown Network. We just launched our second show. It's gonna
be today, and we're just talking about quarterbacks, like all
the stuff that we're talking about. It's so fun to
be able to talk about it with him because I've
done it my whole life with him. But he's he's
right in it. Like you talk about like the schematics
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and what these guys are doing and.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
All the different offenses.
Speaker 14 (32:21):
He's had everybody like you talk about a team like,
he's had that guy as a coordinator, So he knows
the intricacies I think I do. But then I'll I
even find myself and like, hey, what are they actually
doing right here? And he'll just literally break it down.
So it's been super fun to do that. But yeah,
he'll be a blast to talk to. Do you joke with.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Your brother about the Tom Brady wanting to be a
Raider and then yelling at the Raiders that you're going
to keep him over me.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
Yeah, there's some things that we joke about. Okay, probably
don't need to be on team, so you go feel
free man, feel free see what he says.
Speaker 14 (32:51):
But look, it's so funny because like literally the same
day that even like the last couple of days that
stuff has kind of resurfaced. He's on the phone with
Mark Davis. Like Mark is just he wants a good team,
he wants a good product. He wants someone in the
building like that's why Tom's there right now. He wants
a guy that can kind of push this football thing forward.
He knows he's a smart he's a smart guy, like
he understands that he doesn't have all the answers. So yeah,
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it's it's it's a good time, man, Oh my good time.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
When you know, everybody wanted to know, well, what guy's
he talking about? What team is Brady talking about? And
you know how Brady you know, oh yeah, he's just
you know, tough guy. You're gonna keep that bleep, you know, sure.
Speaker 14 (33:25):
I mean, I mean every quarterback feels that way, like
you absolutely if you don't feel that way then why.
I mean, that's why he's considered one of the greatest
quarterbacks ever, if not the greatest, like because he has
that competitive spirit like, yeah, I can absolutely come in
and do that job.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
Bro.
Speaker 14 (33:37):
Dan, I feel like I can go out there right now.
I absolutely cannot and take half these guys jobs. I
cannot do it. Just for the record, you're not better
than Flacco, absolutely not. First of all, the guys. The
size of this wall. Like he's six eight and he
feels completely healthy. I have a bad hit, so he's.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, he's got Roethlisberger could probably still play one percent.
Speaker 14 (33:58):
Like there's I haven't seen Roethlisberger's shape like recently.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Was big.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I don't know if he was ever.
Speaker 8 (34:06):
Big and big and big for a while. It's a
different thing, you know, like big in football. I remember
talking to Ben.
Speaker 14 (34:12):
He might hate me for telling the story, but we
had to lock out and we ended up playing them
in the preseason. And so this was after everyone. No
one has been doing anything. Really, we've been trying. We
were in the building. We're trying to go put workouts together.
Ben said David, I haven't put on cleats since Christmas
and this is August. So I'm like, so Ben's been
out for a while. What's what's he like right now?
(34:33):
I don't know, Dan, I don't know. Three hundred possibly
pushing it, yeah, possibly pushing it. Yeah, big dude, I'm concerned.
Great great stories, great appearance. Thanks for joining us, but man,
I always enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
David Carr, he's the former number one pick by Detections
back in two thousand and two, won a Super Bowl
with the GiMA. You can see him on NFL Game
Day Final this Sunday at eleven thirty am Eastern on
NFL Network. We'll take a break. We will play fill
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play Phil in the Blank. I'll read something and then
you fill in the blank. I'm gonna start with Paulie.
The NFL's ruling on Jalen Carter was blank measured Todd.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I went with fair spelled pH A I R for
the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Fair seatan. No, I'm not I can't acknowledge it. I
just have to move on. It was appropriate with PhH.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Thank you. You're gonna say it was fat pH at Marvin.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
You set the words out of my mouth.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
The LA Chargers are blank. Marvin for real Todd, so far,
so good.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yeah, you love it?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
You wear me down?
Speaker 8 (36:11):
I did?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Do you wear me? Dumb?
Speaker 12 (36:12):
Paul?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
The charges are attractive.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Seaton. A football team, the Indianapolis Colts are blank. Seaton
back Marvin better than the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Paul lightly threatening Todd.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
Jones in to prove people wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Hitting fifty home runs these days is blank? Seatan cute
Marvin legit unquestioned Todd.
Speaker 8 (36:41):
Hitting fifty is nifty.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
College football heavyweight scheduling small FCS programs is blank. Paul
self defeating Marvin a waste of time.
Speaker 10 (36:55):
Todd.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Big jive conference.
Speaker 8 (36:58):
Said a big five five, big jove.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Okay, big job. Seaton.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Sorry, we're only allowed to use one word.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
If possible.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
College football heavyweights.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Is weak weak weak sauce. The Detroit Lions are blank.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Todd Cagy ready to bounce back, Marvin under pressure.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Oh gonna be fine. See I'm sorry, one word. I'm
gonna be fine. If you say quickly, it sounds like
one word gonna be fine. Did you have one seating
for the Lions? Yeah, they're blank.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
They are they are blank?
Speaker 8 (37:34):
Oh no, they're blank.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Okay. The forty nine ers are blank.
Speaker 8 (37:38):
They're also blank.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Injury prone, Paul.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
The Niners are heetering, Todd, I had.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
The same as Marvin's, but I put pretty injury prone.
Get pretty injury Now we go think about it, Sat disarray,
Ford Niners are disarray. Pumpkin related products are blank, Paul
all hap hazard. Add that to the Paul PAP's dictionary
that hap hazard related food products are spicy, Satan.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Did you what did you call your ie patch today?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Ramshackle?
Speaker 5 (38:14):
That's what pumpkins related food products are. They're ramshackle.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
It was like they they did the surgery on your
eye and then they go, oh, we got to get
a bandage for him. They just slap something on you.
Speaker 8 (38:24):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
It's like this hard cone and then they just started
putting masking tape.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
On my head. Okay, Marvin, terrible. Pumpkin related food products
are terrible. That's it.
Speaker 8 (38:36):
We did it.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
We did fill in the blank question. Yeah, good jump,
good jump shuffles in Phoenix, Hi shuffles. What's on your
mind today?
Speaker 10 (38:47):
Good morning? And for the love of Kyler Murray, can
somebody please gong pod this morning? Just once? Just gong
them one time.
Speaker 12 (38:54):
That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
All right, Right, shuffles. Back room guys were shocked that
I didn't gong Fritzy earlier. But it doesn't affect him.
It doesn't impact him. You know, normally you'd get gonged
on the Gong Show and then you'd you know, be
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defeated and sad and emotional.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
You're not.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
It's just a sound did dissipate into the atmosphere like
any other sound waver.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
And then we restarted.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I can bring down the rather you did, not the
cone of silence that seems to have an impact on you.
David and san Antonio. Hi, David, what's on your mind?
Speaker 15 (39:36):
Hey, damn man? I wanted to say, what a great
interview with David Carr. And if you really listen to
David Carr, he brought up Dak like three or four times,
and he brought up and highlighted how great Dak has
played in Game one. So I'm gonna go on on
the limit. I'm gonna say, man, the Cowboys are gonna
go to the Super Bowl, man, And uh.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Thank you Dave.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
David Carr was mentioning Dak a couple of times. Got
to see him in practice, and you know these quarterbacks
like certain quarterbacks because maybe they can relate to them,
and maybe he sees himself with Dak Prescott the way
he plays. David Carr was a great athlete. He just
went to the wrong team. That's a classic example of
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if I put Tom Brady on that Texans team and
he gets sacked seventy six I mean, imagine you're sacked
seventy six times, and what if he sat half of
the year, what if he played for the Patriots. It's
just different. It's you know, Jackson Dart got to be
in the right situation and you know, right team, right coordinator,
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right head, all of those things, because when it works,
it works fabulously. And when it doesn't, that's when we
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The speculation, and I want to emphasize speculation has already
started on Tyreek Hill. Mention this on Monday and even
the previous week that I wouldn't be surprised if he's
traded at some point during this season. Now, once again,
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if they're out of it and the speculation has already
started off, what would you have to give? And I
mentioned that I could see him going back to Kansas City.
The other team that was mentioned the Pittsburgh Steelers. So
it's just speculation here. But if things go south in
South Florida, then what's Tyreek Hilworth? And the speculation was
(01:34):
anywhere from a fourth, fifth or sixth round pick, But
you're going to take that money off the books. He's
going to be making what thirty million dollars and last
year of his contract. Once again, it's only speculation, but
it is starting and he's got off the field issues
with his ex wife that he's dealing with that as well.
(01:59):
But if you watched him on the sidelines and the
game against the Colts, he is drawing at somebody. He
was not happy, and of course they got blown out.
But if they're not in any kind of playoff picture,
then I could see them during the doing their best
to get rid of that contract. There all right, age
(02:19):
seven to seven to three DP show operator Tyler standing,
But what's going on? Second hour here? Stumbling through here?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yes, Paul, by the way, I went back and looked,
and I know it was kind of a mutual decision
with Tyreek Hill in Kansas City because of finances, but
Tyreek Hill was on his way to being a first
ballot Hall of Famer with Kansas City. I think he
had gone to he was first team All Pro four
out of five years, while Holmes had one great year
in Miami and then it's cooled off quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
But he did say, you know, he loved Tua, but
Tua was critical of him, saying that in the offseason
he kind of needed to, you know, own up to
his immaturity here and be a leader. And by all accounts,
it sounded like that's what he was doing. It certainly
didn't look like that Week one against the Colts. Yes, Marvin,
could this.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Be an Antonio Brown situation where you look at his
numbers and for a five or six year stretch he
was one of the best, if not the best receiver
in football and it just kind of fell off.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, I don't know what that is of trying to
keep that window of five or six years of being
great and Antonio Brown was on his way to the
Hall of Fame and Tyreek Hill, I agree with PAULI
like that that's how you start a Hall of Fame
resume and then all of a sudden, it's tailed off,
and for whatever reason it's tailed off. I mean Antonio Brown,
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you know he that was career suicide, and it might
be the same with Tyreek Hill. And I wouldn't be
surprised if now it felt like he had some cryptic
social media post where I'm out of here. But maybe
that's not cryptic. That pretty directly yeah, I'm out of here?
What do you mean by that? I'm out of here?
(04:02):
But then, you know, now talking him down off the
ledge and then here we go, and let's let's see
what he does in week two against New England. Say
if he puts up some big numbers that he gets
his touches, and then maybe everything's okay. After that, it's
not going to be okay in the long run because
it feels like this is it. Do I want to
spend thirty million dollars on him? No, unless I'm a contender,
(04:25):
But I don't know if the Dolphins are a contender.
They certainly didn't look like that against the Colts. All right,
poll question for hour two is going to be what seedon?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Well we got up there right now? Where does South
Florida belong in the top ten?
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Well, actually, in the top twenty five.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, your options are are they top ten, eleven through
twenty or twenty one plus Right now, eleven through twenty
has about fifty six percent of that vote. Eleven have
them in the top ten, then those are your people.
That's your group right there.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
But it could come crashing down. They have Miami and
they're a big underdog against Miami this weekend.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yes, Paul, I watch a lot of college football, and
here's the rationale. You put South Florida at eighteen and nice,
I look at them. They beat Florida. You put them
at eighteen. If they somehow get waxed by him Miami
this week, you could easily drop them out of the
top twenty.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Matlok foolish Jared in Tampa, Hi, Jared, Hey Dan six
foot one, eighties.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Hey, I know that you're hopping on the USF bandwagon
here and there is plenty of room. One of the
things for the long haul that might be interesting is
we have this quarterback. He's a freshman from the UK,
Sam Fenton, and he came up through a UK high
school and now he's at US UP. So something to
you know. I don't know how this weekend's gonna go,
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but something to watch for.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
The long haul.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
Thanks for having me on and hate to my dad,
who I know is listening.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
All right, thank you, Jared, Yeah, all right, I appreciate that.
Another reason to root for South Flora or be curious
about them, just like me watching BYU Stanford re Air
last night. Because they have a quarterback who's number forty
seven and I believe his name is Bear. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
Now, now for South Florida.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
If they have a good loss, say if they lose
by seven, do you still keep them in the top
twenty five?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah? Okay, yeah, I mean they're supposed to lose this game. Yeah.
You start to look at these sacrificial lambs. So I
expected Grambling to be blown out by Ohio State, and
they were. I did not expect Oregon to blow out
Oklahoma State. Oklaoma State is not Grambling. Grambling is going
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there to get a paycheck and get blown out and
have their band, you know, get to play at the
horseshoe Oklomas State. That's big time football, we thought. And
that's what's shocking. If you're one of these smaller schools,
you know you're gonna get beat. The question is how badly,
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Okloma State. You don't lose sixty nine to three.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
They were ten and four two years ago.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I am a man that one. I don't know if
there'll be a more shocking law. There will be a
more shocking loss, but that was one of those. I'm
watching it and I'm going that's Oklahoma State. That's my gundhy.
I mean, even if you lost by three touchdowns, okay,
sixty nine to three, And these sideline reporters who have
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to ask a coach what kind of adjustments are you
going to make in the second half? Hey, any positives
that you take from the first half? Coach? Well, my
field goal kicker gave us three. That's about it. That's
where if you're the sideline reporter and you go, Okay,
(07:52):
I'm gonna have to talk. I gotta ask him a
couple of questions. And then that's where you go to
your producer. You got any suggestions here?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Can you can you say to Mike Gundy when you're
down by forty at halftime, dude and just say that, dude.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
That was rough?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yes, Marvin. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
All I keep going back to is Barry Sanders went there. Yeah,
Das Bryant went there. T Boom Pickings spent many millions
and millions of dollars for that school not to be
an embarrassment, and they did him dirty.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Dang Jeff and Nashville. Hi, Jeff, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (08:38):
Heay a long time first time six three two five.
Well to talk of firing head coach Brian Calla. And
is there a benefits of firing and NFL coach midseason?
And why would you do it? For the fan base,
for the locker room? And it doesn't it show the
team that's punted on the season.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Well, wait a minute, are you calling for him to
be fired?
Speaker 9 (08:57):
Oh? I don't know. I don't think eighteen games is
a good enough sample. But they're not they're not improving.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well, it's only one game. Let's just slow down. You
don't you don't want to be This isn't a fantasy league.
I mean, this is real and you've got a quarterback.
Let's see what he can do. Maybe maybe in that
division you could surprise some people. But I'm I'm not
firing my coach. And they don't like these owners don't
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like firing coaches and have to pay out their contracts. Yeah,
Pauling but.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
If you're a Titans fan, it's not the coach, it's
management ownership. Three years ago, four years ago, you had
Derrick Henry under contract, you had you had a good coach,
Mike Rabel under contract, you had Aj Brown under contract.
You let all the talent in your building leave.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, it's not the head coach you had Christian McCaffrey.
I mean, you've had uh oh, Titans. But you know
you've got something here. You that's something here. I don't
the wise. I think that powder blue. I thought Christian McCaffrey. Yes, Marvin, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Things changed when they traded AJ Brown and Mike Rabel's
reactions like are you kidding me?
Speaker 8 (10:11):
No, you draft guys so they can be great players.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And then you get rid of him when he went
to that press conference and you could tell it's like,
I gotta somehow spin this, not gotta make this a positive.
It's some of the best acting, though that I've seen.
Uh Nick in New Mexico. Hi Nick, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 10 (10:33):
Hey Dan? First time, long time, six' one two twenty.
Thank you boys. Have a Gallagher story for you. I
used to be a marketing director for Whole Foods and
I'd get PR requests from people that wanted to visit
the store, so I got believe it or not, Gallagher
had PR at the time, and he came in. It
was a fall. We did not have watermelons. He was
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so upset that he had He was without his signature
fruit to smash, and so we we were looking at alternatives.
We were roasting green chilly at the time and doing
some fresh made salta and I came up with the
idea to smash some jars of salt so that would
flatter everywhere. And he got really upset with that idea,
and so they decided to do a little meat and great,
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see if people recognized him. No one did without his watermelon.
So he left after like twenty minutes and not good.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
No, thank you.
Speaker 10 (11:23):
Nick.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Didn't know that I would be stumbling onto Gallagher stories today,
but some of the famous South Florida alum Gallagher and
his watermelons. Courtney in Indiana. Hi, Courtney, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 11 (11:39):
Hey? I'm just calling to give a shout out to
my cousin Devin Markabe. He's a running back for Purdue,
and a shout out to Purdue for turning their season round.
I know it's early and know the two games, but yes,
be usc this weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Alrighty Courtney, a little shout out, Hello, they turned their
season around.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
I know it's early.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know if you're can officially say
you've turned the season around after a couple of games, like.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Week to week, it started and then it turned around.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Back to back, Robin Orlando, Hi, Rob, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (12:12):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (12:12):
This was my original subject. But Nick and Nick talking
about smashing jars of salsa, no wonder. He's a former
PR guy, So first off, God bless Ritchie Man. He
is like a defensive back who has to have a
short memory. When something bad happens, he gets right back
on the horseman and I love that.
Speaker 10 (12:31):
And to solve the state.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Of Florida directional thing, it's really simple. South Florida is
only Vero Beach south on the east coast. Nobody thinks
of anything on the west coast of Florida, South Florida
being Naples for Myers anything.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Thank you, Rob, wasn't it the Giants defensive back Elvis Patterson,
whose nickname was toast yep, toast because he got burned
all the time. What a nickname for a defensive back, Todd.
That might be your nickname, your toast toast. Yeah, it
doesn't seem to have a positive connotation, no, but but
you keep coming back though, you keep lining up ready
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to go the way toast? Does you have you have
no memory of getting burned? Scott in Tampa? Hi, Scott,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (13:18):
Hey guys, first time, long time five eight two twenty.
So I went to USF. I graduated in two thousand
and nine. But uh so I remember back when we
were at number two. What happened was, I think we'd
be Auburn. I think there were reckd six and we'd
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beat West Virginia at number four, and then we got
bumped up to number two, and I remember it was
a crazy over ranking, and I think it kind of destroyed,
like our psyche going into overhyped that. I think we
got beat by a Ray Rice and Greg Ciano coach Rutgers.
Then probably poor choice of words, but they knocked us
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out as the number two spot.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
All right, thank you, Scott? Yeah, cheer up, Scott. Sound
down in the dumps. Teams ranked in the top twenty five. Yeah,
I forgot, you know, they were up to number two
in the country a few years ago. Remember one Rutgers
wasn't Rutgers number one in the country after winning a
like a Monday night game on ESPN, and everybody went crazy, Paulie.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
The best I could find is six. Rutgers got to
seven in the AP poll, which might as well be
number one. For Rutgers break in the top ten?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Did they beat the number one team?
Speaker 8 (14:38):
Seven?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Is a new jersey one, that's a new jersey one.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
It's a new jersey, the hard new jersey one.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yes, because but that was the thing with they keep
on chopping thing with Gianna.
Speaker 12 (14:46):
People kind of rallied around that for a little while.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I thought they won a huge game I think on
ESPN one night, and do you remember that, Marvin they did.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I can't remember who it was, but I think it
was like a last second field. Go Eto was the kicker. Oh,
I gotta look judge Edo.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Okay, they beat Louisville number three, Louisville twenty twenty five
on November sixth, next thing, you know, the rank seventh
in the country and they promptly lost to Cincinnati in
West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Okay, yeah, now that was a big deal. But I
think that was on ESPN.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
They were so popular at the time. Rutgers are catching
fire that James Gandalfini did a commercial for them and
like appear in a commercial to promote them.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yes, Todd Rutgers football and Gallagher not on the Bengo
cars here.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That'll all right. When we come back, we'll talk football
and we will have David Carr joining us on loan
from NFL Network. More phone calls as well. Back after
this on The Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
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Speaker 8 (15:55):
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Speaker 14 (17:05):
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and you'll find him on NFL Game Day Final this
Sunday at eleven thirty am Eastern on NFL Network. What
was the biggest school to offer you a scholarship?
Speaker 14 (17:37):
UCLA and Washington? But Pat Hill was not going to
have that. Dan, you know, he was gonna. He rolled
into my house fresh off the airplane in Cleveland as
the offensive line assistant, and he had a taped up
duffel bag, sat down in my living room and just
wouldn't leave. I was like, Pat, we gotta get a
flight tomorrow to go to Washington.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
Maybe you said.
Speaker 14 (17:54):
He's like, no, you're gonna play quarterback for me. We're
going to handle the trenches. And it was just so
unique and he's he's my favorite. I saw him two
days ago with Derek and we went over and just
kind of spent some time with him.
Speaker 8 (18:05):
But he's still out there.
Speaker 14 (18:06):
He's still at Fresno State holding the cards for the
practice squad, like he literally is running the scout team
defense to get those guys ready.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
So love his heart. Man, He's awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
More important to have a better relationship with your head
coach or your offensive coordinator.
Speaker 14 (18:21):
Offensive coordinator, hands down, he's the guy that he's in
your ear, the head coach. You know, if you have
a defensive mind, head coach, you rarely talked to him.
I remember I talked to Don Capers in Houston right
before the game, like about an hour hour and a
half before the game. In his office, and it was like, oh, hey,
it's good to see you, Like what's the plan today?
Speaker 8 (18:38):
And it's really unique. But the offense corny, you talk
to you at every way.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
So your debut, you didn't talk to your head coach
until an hour before the game, not.
Speaker 14 (18:48):
Like a formal meeting or nothing really ext as those wise.
He just kind of brought me in his office, like
this is cool. It's like being in the principal's.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
Office a little bit. How are we going to do
this thing? But it worked out all right.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
But that coordinator you're tied to and we find well,
you can look at track records with quarterbacks and go
how many offensive coordinators have they burned through or head
coaches there, And sometimes we don't factor that in when
somebody's successful or they're not. But we should factor that
in a lot more than we do.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
Yeah. Absolutely shit.
Speaker 14 (19:17):
I mean I think that it's just so difficult because
you invest all of your time and energy into learning
this system and like ingraining it into your vocabulary. I
mean so much so that my wife will tell you
I would literally like say audibles in my sleep and
I would just bark out these kides and say it's
like you have to internalize it, and then it's like, Okay,
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well he's not good enough, let's get another one.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
And hey, you got to memorize all these calls.
Speaker 14 (19:42):
I've gotten to the line of scrimmers before and called
the wrong audible from the previous offense. I did it
with I did it in New York, so they've just
come off with Super Bowl. I landed it with the Giants.
I go up to the line of scrimmage. I know
the play I want to get two weeks side inside
zone run and I checked to the wrong play and
Shan O'Hara turns around, looks at me.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
He's like, what literally, mid play? I got it right?
You figured it out for me. Having a great sinner's
always a good backup plan.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
But is there like common verbiage though for all quarterbacks
that you know, maybe a different color or a number
or whatever, but it always sort of the same.
Speaker 8 (20:16):
All the plays are the same, Like we just we
just call him something different.
Speaker 14 (20:19):
So what you have to do is I actually heard
a great Keenan McCardell or Keenan Allen was talking about
this before the broadcast of the day Chargers Chiefs and
he's like, Honestly, it's the same plays. I just have
to kind of memorize what words they're using, and so
it's all the same stuff.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
And it's a copycat league.
Speaker 14 (20:33):
You see, like Ben Johnson's had success the last couple
of years, Well, everybody just rips his stuff. He's call
it something else, like, well, you just stole his copyright
infringement right here. But it's all the same stuff. You
just got to figure out what the new terms are.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Give me the team that stood out either good or
bad from week one.
Speaker 14 (20:49):
Well, Miami was Obviously it was on the same field
as the team that actually stood out as good. So
it's like you think Miami's going to go in there
with Tyreek and Okay, there's no captain ship there and
he maybe he's not the leader, he'll still make some plays.
But like the Indy, you know, Daniel Jones is the
guy that we ran out of town in New York.
He's not good enough to play there, and so he
lands in India and he's he's surrounded by a good cast. Obviously,
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Schematically had some good answers. He made some great checks
to the line of scrimmage. By the way, I mean
he was he was really on it. It was funny
because he looked like Peyton, you know, because you get
in the same uniform, you're in that building, you start
to say, well, he's got the same mannerisms. It's it's
really unique. So I'm gonna study and follow Indy the
rest of the year. But Miami was kind of disappointing.
But they'll bounce back. They'll be okay too. It didn't
play as bad as people thought, you did. They have
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some schematic issues like they were they were bringing extra
pressures off the edges. They really hit him with some
some timely blitzes that that wasn't fortunate for Miami.
Speaker 8 (21:38):
That was that was unique.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
You know.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
I think that when you look around, like the.
Speaker 14 (21:41):
Quarterbacks that moved into different scenarios, Like you talk about Russ,
Like Russ was on a playoff team last year. He
lands in New York and now, oh he can't play anymore. Well,
you know, Daniel Jones left New York and now he
all of a sudden can play. So it's like, are
we talking about the scenario, are we talking about the
you know, the surrounding components, or are we talking about
specific players. So I think that's that's gonna be the
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fun part as we go forward, is like, these guys
are in good situations, they're gonna play well. These guys
are in bad situations, They're not gonna play well. Like
is Jackson Dart going in in New York? Like, I
don't necessarily think Jackson Dart's gonna solve your problems that
you have in New York.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So it'll be fun to watch it. He's David Carr,
NFL Network analyst. You can see him on the NFL
Game Day Final this Sunday at eleven thirty am Eastern
on NFL Network. When Peyton changed the game calling plays
at the line of scrimmage, was there pressure on other
quarterbacks and offensive coordinators like we have to do the
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same thing.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
We tried to mimic it, like there was even a
scenario we played the Rams.
Speaker 14 (22:38):
So I feel like I'm responsible for the birth of
Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Fits magic because so we're playing
the Rams at home in Houston. My offensive coordinator decides, Hey,
we're gonna let you go to the line of scrimmage
and call your own place. I'm like, fantastic, that's great.
We're gonna get one formation. So we played fast. I mean,
I didn't have a ton of them Peyton has. I
mean it's endless his catalog that he can get to you.
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I had like seven plays, right, So we ran our
seven plays. We get up, we get up twenty one,
we're up like we're winning. And then we get to
the halftime and the offensive preneer comes in and he says, hey,
that was great. You know, but what we're gonna do
now is we're going to establish the run. So he
takes the play sheet from me. So now he goes
into his'n we're gonna hang onto the ball.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
We're gonna keep it away from him.
Speaker 14 (23:19):
Here comes the points, right, Ryan Fitzpatrick blasts his way
all the way back. They end up beating us on
the last play of the game because we just got
he got taken away. But it was so fun, it
was so freeing, Like as a quarterback, I just I
loved having that ability and that freedom, and you end
up taking that ownership. It's like if you're teaching, if
you're teaching someone something like you just automatically you learn
it better yourself.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
And I think that that's the fun part about that,
and that's kind of what I miss.
Speaker 14 (23:43):
Honestly about the current quarterback state is there's not a
lot of those guys doing that anymore. There are some,
and like, that's why I got so excited about Daniel
Jones because he's up there making checks, moving guys around.
He has that ability he has. Dak was doing that
the other day. Didn't win, but Dak's got full ownership.
That was in Oxnard watching them practice. He's going to
play better this year. See he's gonna catch the ball.
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Obviously he might actually turn out to be a good receiver.
But there's those types of players. I still think you
have to be able to do that because you look
at Josh Allen, you look as great as Josh is
love Josh at Lamar at some point, like why haven't
they been able to get over the hump? It's because
of that. It's because of that ownership at the line
of scrimmage in those crucial situations. That's why Pat Mahomes
is still the guy. Like you can say what you
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want about him, maybe put him down the list four
or five, but when it comes down to it, his
notes are meticulous. He's got a great play caller. They
know the answers to the test they know the problems
that you're going to bring them, and they have answers
for him. And I think that there's still that element
that you have to have that component and Brad. If
Brady was here, he'd be telling you like, that's all
that matters. I still think that there's a physicality about it.
Like you see, you know, Lamar's back there running down
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John Hussey where now the referee is in a full
sprint trying to get away from him. Lamar ends up
making thirty yards. There's the element of that that you
have to have to play quarterback in this league still,
but you have to be able to win and diagnose
problems from the pocket and solve them.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That's why when we get rankings, I say, well that's
regular season, because if we if we have postseason rankings,
the rankings are completely different. You have Mahomes and jay
Lenmore right, that's right.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
I couldn't agree more that one to exactly right.
Speaker 14 (25:12):
They're one, two and and that's exactly for that reason
that we laid out and we're like, well, what's the difference.
That is the difference because you get guys like Steve Spagnola,
you get these defensive coordinators that know your protection seam
better than you, honestly, and I've talked to some of
these quarterbacks now I love them, they'll go nameless. They
don't know their protection schemes as well as some of
these defensive coordinators that are facing them. They know how
to bring the four week I mean, that's the reason
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that Jared Goff is no longer in LA because that
four week pressure that they didn't have an answer for.
They had to find a guy that could kind of
cover that up, and it was Matt Stafford. So there's
there's well when.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Stafford doing differently than Golf didn't recognize it.
Speaker 14 (25:48):
Well they didn't really, they didn't really ask him to
in some systems, and this is what happened to Miami
the other day. So two is getting hit by these
four week pressures, these extra safety defenders that they are
unaccounted for. And so in the systems you use you know,
type formations, use shifts, motions, the speed of Tyreek kill
and that little quick motion that work everyone's calling illegal,
Like you use that stuff to kind of cover that
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stuff up.
Speaker 8 (26:09):
But when it comes down to it, those.
Speaker 14 (26:11):
Good coordinators are going to time it up right where
they know, like Vic Fangio knows.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
I was with him in Houston.
Speaker 14 (26:16):
He believes that he can guess the offense is play
based on the personnel group in the down and distance,
and he's right a lot of times.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
So they win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 14 (26:24):
Because those guys understand how to attack structure, how to
attack quarterbacks, and it's just it.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
You got to have that. You got to have that
ability to pick that up. And Stafford.
Speaker 14 (26:33):
What Stafford does, honestly is he's just so good at
at defeating a buying time. They used to tell us
in the quarterback room. You bring that extra pressure. Hey
guys buy time, Like, Hey, hold on, I don't have
time to buy with what what.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
Credit am I using to buy this time?
Speaker 14 (26:45):
I don't have it. Man, I'm not that guy. So
but Stafford can just kind of make it physically. So
he kind of covers up for a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
We hear a lot of this. Uh, when you know
these guys come out of college that in college you
can have four seconds and you could get out of
trouble and you could hold onto the ball and you
can try to be a hero. You can't do that
in the NFL. But I'm curious about teaching getting the
ball out, teaching stepping up in the pocket as opposed
to rolling out away from pressure. Is it teachable to
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get the ball out as quickly as possible, to stay
in the pocket, all those things that you're taught you.
Speaker 14 (27:20):
So what happens is, and I've been in there, unfortunately,
when it's falling apart and guys are falling, you're getting pressure,
and it's just like, well, the only the only positive
play we had when I was in Houston at times
was me scrambling to the right and find Corey Bradford
after the play had already started right, so I would
just literally tell we'd get in the red zone, like Corey,
if I don't throw it to you right away, just
find me, work with me on the back end line.
And I literally threw like five or six touchdowns my
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second year just doing that because we couldn't hold up inside.
So that's the problem is because it's just human nature.
It's default for some of these guys to say I
can just scramble out, and I hate it.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
I did it a hundred thousand times as a quarterback.
Speaker 14 (27:53):
But the scramble out to the right throwaway or just
trying to find like it bothers me so much. I
have so much respect for the quarterback that can climb
and step up in the pocket and trust their guys.
So what you have to do is you have to
really lock in to your schematics. You have to really
trust your offensive coordinators. So you can tell the guys
that trust their ocs, that trust their play callers, they
climb up in the pocket, I trust that that fifth
guy is going to be there, or that for that
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checkdown is going to be there. The brock Purties finding
Christian McCaffrey, like Dak even did it the other day,
climbing up in the pocket, like he just trusts that
it's gonna we're gonna make it work. Joe Burrow does
that at time. Joe Burrow took some shots the other day. Ye,
I mean they were he was getting wrecked. But he trustsed,
he knows, he knows where his guys are. So it
really comes down to really digging into what you're doing,
your belief in your play caller and the fact he's
gonna put you in a good position.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Can you put us in the in that situation where
you're stepping up in the pocket and there's chaos around you.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
There's no there's no words that can describe it.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Man.
Speaker 14 (28:45):
It's just like you have to have such a faith
that your your guys are gonna win down the field,
that your scheme is right for the play that you have.
And that's why veteran quarterbacks so much want ownership of
the offense and kind of like we were talking about earlier,
where I want to I want to call to play
because I know that I know where the answer is
and if I get in trouble, I know I can
get out of it. The most, Like the thing that
(29:07):
bothers you the most is when you have a protection
but you go to step up and you know you
don't have a winner. You know you don't have guys
that are gonna win, especially on the based on the
coverage that you have, and it's it's really hard because
then then you go back into those bad habits of
like let me just create, let me just try and
make a play, and now you're just out there, You're
you're not gonna consistently win. That's why like Brady was
always great because he would he would and even Manning,
(29:29):
they know where they're going before the ball. Like you
talk about like he's staring down or zero. Absolutely, he's
staring to the exact spot on the field that he's
gonna throw this football. He's gonna do in less than
two seconds. Good luck getting to him. So if you
can get to that point in your offense, then you
got to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
But Brady could still play today.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
Absolutely, Absolutely, he can still play. Peyton can still play.
Speaker 14 (29:47):
I mean if you could throw at twenty yards, I
don't know if his neck would let him, but I mean, yeah,
it's you get to a point where if you can
just keep the physical ability like That's why it was
so interesting talking to Flacco. I went out to Cleveland,
saw him like, well, how do you feel because that's
what quarterbacks want to ask the veteran guys, like do
you feel like you can go out there and do
it physically? Because mentally, you know, the more reps you get,
(30:08):
there isn't a defense on earth that these guys can
invent that you haven't seen and that you don't have
an answer for. So it's just keeping that physical ability
on par with your mental game.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Were you rooting for Caleb Williams to break your sack record?
Speaker 8 (30:21):
That's tough man. I don't look.
Speaker 14 (30:22):
I know how bad I felt at that moment, and
I didn't want because I was like contemplating, do I
want to play football anymore?
Speaker 8 (30:27):
Like this is kind of hard.
Speaker 14 (30:28):
I've played every sport, like I feel like you can
figure out eventually, Like you've played golf, like you're going
to figure it out, Like you give me enough time,
I'll find a way to win. But it was hard,
man like, because that's something that's so out of your control.
So for me, like when I'm watching him, I kind
of didn't want him to honestly, Like if I'm being honest,
like I didn't want him to break the records. I
(30:48):
don't want anybody have to go through cause he might
not play football anymore, and like he might not want
to do it. It's so hard to go through all
the stuff we've talked about, ownership of the offense, leadership,
like being in the right place at the right time,
doing all the right things, and then you do everything right.
That's what I was That's why I struggled so much
with is Like I remember telling my wife one night,
I was like, I don't I don't know physically or
(31:09):
mentally what else to do, Like I just don't. I
don't know what else to do. And so when you
get to that point, it's that's a tough. Someone's got
to bring you back, you know, because and it's it's
got to be something outside of yourself. So fortunately for me,
I had some great people around me and some good
coaches eventually, and I got to New York and I
found out football was easy. So, I mean, that was
that was my favorite part.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Seventy six sacks in one seat. So you're first and
third on the Oh.
Speaker 8 (31:32):
Yeah, don't worry.
Speaker 14 (31:33):
We Yeah, we went seventy six and then we we
kind of skipped a year, had a good year, had
I think fifty, and then we said, you know, we're
gonna go back up there where we got to get
our numbers up where we're He went from seventy six
and then.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Just back up to sixty eight.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 14 (31:46):
I feel great. New hip. I got brand new hip.
Titanum feels great. It's the best joint that I have
in my body. Works better than all the other ones.
It's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
We got your brother on tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
He's gonna be great.
Speaker 10 (31:57):
Man.
Speaker 14 (31:57):
He's so fun. He did that pregame show or Chiefs
the other day. He'll did great. He just loves talking football.
He loves talking football. So we're actually doing a show
Homegrown Network. We just launched our second show. It's gonna
be today, and we're just talking about quarterbacks, like all
the stuff that we're talking about. It's so fun to
be able to talk about it with him because I've
done it my whole life with him. But he's he's
right in it. Like you talk about like the schematics
(32:18):
and what these guys are doing and.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
All the different offenses.
Speaker 14 (32:21):
He's had everybody like you talk about a team like,
he's had that guy as a coordinator, So he knows
the intricacies I think I do. But then I'll I
even find myself and like, hey, what are they actually
doing right here? And he'll just literally break it down.
So it's been super fun to do that. But yeah,
he'll be a blast to talk to. Do you joke with.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Your brother about the Tom Brady wanting to be a
Raider and then yelling at the Raiders that you're going
to keep him over me.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
Yeah, there's some things that we joke about. Okay, probably
don't need to be on team, so you go feel
free man, feel free see what he says.
Speaker 14 (32:51):
But look, it's so funny because like literally the same
day that even like the last couple of days that
stuff has kind of resurfaced. He's on the phone with
Mark Davis. Like Mark is just he wants a good team,
he wants a good product. He wants someone in the
building like that's why Tom's there right now. He wants
a guy that can kind of push this football thing forward.
He knows he's a smart he's a smart guy, like
he understands that he doesn't have all the answers. So yeah,
(33:11):
it's it's it's a good time, man, Oh my good time.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
When you know, everybody wanted to know, well, what guy's
he talking about? What team is Brady talking about? And
you know how Brady you know, oh yeah, he's just
you know, tough guy. You're gonna keep that bleep, you know, sure.
Speaker 14 (33:25):
I mean, I mean every quarterback feels that way, like
you absolutely if you don't feel that way then why.
I mean, that's why he's considered one of the greatest
quarterbacks ever, if not the greatest, like because he has
that competitive spirit like, yeah, I can absolutely come in
and do that job.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
Bro.
Speaker 14 (33:37):
Dan, I feel like I can go out there right now.
I absolutely cannot and take half these guys jobs. I
cannot do it. Just for the record, you're not better
than Flacco, absolutely not. First of all, the guys. The
size of this wall. Like he's six eight and he
feels completely healthy. I have a bad hit, so he's.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, he's got Roethlisberger could probably still play one percent.
Speaker 14 (33:58):
Like there's I haven't seen Roethlisberger's shape like recently.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Was big.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I don't know if he was ever.
Speaker 8 (34:06):
Big and big and big for a while. It's a
different thing, you know, like big in football. I remember
talking to Ben.
Speaker 14 (34:12):
He might hate me for telling the story, but we
had to lock out and we ended up playing them
in the preseason. And so this was after everyone. No
one has been doing anything. Really, we've been trying. We
were in the building. We're trying to go put workouts together.
Ben said David, I haven't put on cleats since Christmas
and this is August. So I'm like, so Ben's been
out for a while. What's what's he like right now?
(34:33):
I don't know, Dan, I don't know. Three hundred possibly
pushing it, yeah, possibly pushing it. Yeah, big dude, I'm concerned.
Great great stories, great appearance. Thanks for joining us, but man,
I always enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
David Carr, he's the former number one pick by Detections
back in two thousand and two, won a Super Bowl
with the GiMA. You can see him on NFL Game
Day Final this Sunday at eleven thirty am Eastern on
NFL Network. We'll take a break. We will play fill
in the blank right after this. Fox Sports Radio has
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(35:08):
of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within
the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Time to
play Phil in the Blank. I'll read something and then
you fill in the blank. I'm gonna start with Paulie.
The NFL's ruling on Jalen Carter was blank measured Todd.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I went with fair spelled pH A I R for
the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Fair seatan. No, I'm not I can't acknowledge it. I
just have to move on. It was appropriate with PhH.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Thank you. You're gonna say it was fat pH at Marvin.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
You set the words out of my mouth.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
The LA Chargers are blank. Marvin for real Todd, so far,
so good.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yeah, you love it?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
You wear me down?
Speaker 8 (36:11):
I did?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Do you wear me? Dumb?
Speaker 12 (36:12):
Paul?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
The charges are attractive.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Seaton. A football team, the Indianapolis Colts are blank. Seaton
back Marvin better than the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Paul lightly threatening Todd.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
Jones in to prove people wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Hitting fifty home runs these days is blank? Seatan cute
Marvin legit unquestioned Todd.
Speaker 8 (36:41):
Hitting fifty is nifty.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
College football heavyweight scheduling small FCS programs is blank. Paul
self defeating Marvin a waste of time.
Speaker 10 (36:55):
Todd.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Big jive conference.
Speaker 8 (36:58):
Said a big five five, big jove.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Okay, big job. Seaton.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Sorry, we're only allowed to use one word.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
If possible.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
College football heavyweights.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Is weak weak weak sauce. The Detroit Lions are blank.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Todd Cagy ready to bounce back, Marvin under pressure.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Oh gonna be fine. See I'm sorry, one word. I'm
gonna be fine. If you say quickly, it sounds like
one word gonna be fine. Did you have one seating
for the Lions? Yeah, they're blank.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
They are they are blank?
Speaker 8 (37:34):
Oh no, they're blank.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Okay. The forty nine ers are blank.
Speaker 8 (37:38):
They're also blank.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Injury prone, Paul.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
The Niners are heetering, Todd, I had.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
The same as Marvin's, but I put pretty injury prone.
Get pretty injury Now we go think about it, Sat disarray,
Ford Niners are disarray. Pumpkin related products are blank, Paul
all hap hazard. Add that to the Paul PAP's dictionary
that hap hazard related food products are spicy, Satan.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Did you what did you call your ie patch today?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Ramshackle?
Speaker 5 (38:14):
That's what pumpkins related food products are. They're ramshackle.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
It was like they they did the surgery on your
eye and then they go, oh, we got to get
a bandage for him. They just slap something on you.
Speaker 8 (38:24):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
It's like this hard cone and then they just started
putting masking tape.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
On my head. Okay, Marvin, terrible. Pumpkin related food products
are terrible. That's it.
Speaker 8 (38:36):
We did it.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
We did fill in the blank question. Yeah, good jump,
good jump shuffles in Phoenix, Hi shuffles. What's on your
mind today?
Speaker 10 (38:47):
Good morning? And for the love of Kyler Murray, can
somebody please gong pod this morning? Just once? Just gong
them one time.
Speaker 12 (38:54):
That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
All right, Right, shuffles. Back room guys were shocked that
I didn't gong Fritzy earlier. But it doesn't affect him.
It doesn't impact him. You know, normally you'd get gonged
on the Gong Show and then you'd you know, be
(39:17):
defeated and sad and emotional.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
You're not.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
It's just a sound did dissipate into the atmosphere like
any other sound waver.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
And then we restarted.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I can bring down the rather you did, not the
cone of silence that seems to have an impact on you.
David and san Antonio. Hi, David, what's on your mind?
Speaker 15 (39:36):
Hey, damn man? I wanted to say, what a great
interview with David Carr. And if you really listen to
David Carr, he brought up Dak like three or four times,
and he brought up and highlighted how great Dak has
played in Game one. So I'm gonna go on on
the limit. I'm gonna say, man, the Cowboys are gonna
go to the Super Bowl, man, And uh.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Thank you Dave.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
David Carr was mentioning Dak a couple of times. Got
to see him in practice, and you know these quarterbacks
like certain quarterbacks because maybe they can relate to them,
and maybe he sees himself with Dak Prescott the way
he plays. David Carr was a great athlete. He just
went to the wrong team. That's a classic example of
(40:24):
if I put Tom Brady on that Texans team and
he gets sacked seventy six I mean, imagine you're sacked
seventy six times, and what if he sat half of
the year, what if he played for the Patriots. It's
just different. It's you know, Jackson Dart got to be
in the right situation and you know, right team, right coordinator,
(40:47):
right head, all of those things, because when it works,
it works fabulously. And when it doesn't, that's when we
use the word bust. Final hour on the way, Mark Sanchez,
Fox NFL analysts, you'll stop by more of your phone
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