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September 15, 2025 41 mins

Dan and the Danettes determine what we’ve learned after just two weeks of the NFL season. And former NFL head coach Bill Cowher stops in with his analysis of the NFL action from Week 2.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Howard two on this Monday. Hope you had
a great weekend. You can tell me about it. Best
and worst of the weekend. We'll get to your phone calls.
A good weekend. Then it's a bad weekend for the
Cincinnati Bengals. They got the win against Jacksonville, but they've
lost Joe Burrow. He'll be out for at least three months.

(00:22):
He is going to have toast surgery. That according to Adam.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
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the DP Show. Okay, on Friday, PAULI goes, what do
you think the lead story is going to be on Monday?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Now?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
We went around the room and I ask everybody what
they thought the lead story was going to be.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Todd. You I think we're first. Do we have that? Marvin?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Okay, here we go. What will be the lead story
on Monday? Let's go around the room. Lead story Todd, the.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Demise of the Alabama Crimson Todd as the Badger's Shockbama.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
They're twenty one point favorites against Wisconsin Seaton.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Sunday Night football is the Valcns versus the Vikings. I'm
not mistaken. Yeah, I think it's going to be are
the Vikings for real? Too?

Speaker 3 (01:35):
And oh, okay, situation, Marvin.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
The lead story the Super Bowl rematch. Eagles beat the
Chiefs on the road.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
Okay, Paul, the Chiefs being oh and two and people
hot taking it's over for the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
It could be which oh and two team has the
best chance of making it back to the or making
it to the Super Bowl, the Lions or the Chiefs.
How about that?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
All right?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
So I had the Chiefs losing with the lines blowing
out the Chicago Bears. And if I'm looking at the
Chiefs and I'm just being unbiased with it, I thought
Philadelphia was a better team. I thought Kansas City had
moments there. It just you know, there was a throw
there where Mahomes had a receiver who was twenty yards
in front of everybody and missed him. Now I came

(02:22):
back and he did get another touchdown pass. But the
margin of error, you know, the Chiefs would win these
games last year, like the Commanders won these games last year.
The margin of error, you know, it's two points, it's
three points, and you win those games, then all of
a sudden you're not. And I think that's what you've

(02:45):
got to factor that in that Yes, come you know,
games on the line, you're down three or you're down two,
down four, Mahomes is going to lead you until he
doesn't lead you. And against a really good team that
was favored in your building, and now Kansas City is
OZ and two.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Here's Patrick Mahomes on the loss.

Speaker 8 (03:05):
So obviously we've never been to two, but we've had
times where we've dealt with challenges before in lost games.

Speaker 9 (03:11):
And so I think the guys that we have in this.

Speaker 8 (03:14):
Locker room will go back to work with that mindset
of we're going to continue to work even harder so
that when we step on that field this next time,
we can find a way to win in those big
moments like we have it this first two weeks.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, if they get into the playoffs, that's it. I mean,
that's all your If you're a Kansas City Chiefs fan,
maybe you don't win the division, but all you want
to do is get in because once you get in,
you have the best closer in football. But for the Eagles,
not a pretty game, but it doesn't matter like you'll
take an ugly loss, especially on the road. And I

(03:46):
mentioned this pretty much to start the show. What surprised
me was Dean Blandino, who used to be the head
of officials now works for Fox. He says, I'm done
with the tush push. Wait, your job is still to
analyze the tush push. It's he said, I can't officiate
this anymore. Well, he doesn't have to officiate this. He

(04:08):
has to observe the officiating on the play. But the
fact that he says I'm out on this, I can't officiate,
I get it. But that to me will be this
is the excuse that is going to be made for
the NFL to get rid of the tush push, because
you're going to say, we just can't officiate it. As
far as you know, did somebody jump off side somebody

(04:30):
in the neutral zone. There were a couple of you know,
they jumped the gun. They were off sides a couple
of times, the Eagles. But then I'm going to assume
the Chiefs were in the new like, you know, you're
trying to officiate this, and I think that might be
the out because it used to be. According to my source,
they were just gathering data. They were looking do we
have injuries? Do we have anything to back this up?

(04:54):
And they didn't. Therefore, you know, when Jeffrey Lorie, the
Eagles owner, is talking to the these other owners, it's like,
wait a minute, like there's no injury data here. It's
just we do it better than anybody else. And that
is true. Everybody else can do this, but they do

(05:14):
it better than anybody else. That surprised me because that
was a real honest moment by Dean Blandino, almost as
if to say, I'm gonna throw my hands up, I
have no idea how to call this. Yeah, Seaton.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
This was the first time that I watched an Eagles
game where I was like, all right, I'm kind of
sick of this play. It seemed to be like every
third or fourth down, it's like, all right, here they
go lining up.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
You don't get it on third, get it on fourth.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
It just was kind of like, all right, this is
stupid and that plays never bothered me before, but watching.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
It this weekend, I was kind of like, God, enough
with this.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Dean Blandino will join us on the program tomorrow, Age seven,
seven to three. DP Show operator Tyler is sitting by.
He'll take your phone calls. Bill Cower will join us
coming up, and once again, Joe Burrow is out for
three months at least toe surgery.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Buddha in San Francisco. Welcome back, Buddha.

Speaker 10 (06:14):
What a DP Happy Monday, boys, keep your head up
fifty well. DP America took an l yesterday when Brandon
Aubrey hit that field goal for a choppyt Dallas win,
and Dan guys, I had a wild deep cut reminder
yesterday watching the Bengals game. I saw a guy in
the stands with the Bengal Tiger face paint and I.

Speaker 11 (06:36):
Immediately thought of Seedon. When you guys were talking about
the wheel punishment last week. I remember the time Seedon
had to paint his face and roar before every time
he spoke for an entire show. That was apic, but
best of the weekend, Dan go into a day game yesterday,
a beautiful Oracle Park and watching my Dodgers beat up

(06:57):
on the Giganti Coast, always entertaining in the stands for
that and double Bester DP, the interception celebration by DV
cam binam In tucks the ball underneath his shirt and
doing the belly dance with Blue the Colts mascot and
me and Marvins Niners winning on the road again and

(07:17):
getting an Alabama version of Mac Jones role time.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Thank you Buddha. By the way, cal Rawley hit his
fifty fourth home run of the season. He ties Mickey
Mantle for the most home runs by a switch hitter
in baseball history. Brought to you by Candi America, the

(07:43):
official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. You know,
Russell Wilson can still throw as good a deep ball
as anybody in the NFL, and that was evident seven
of his eleven deep passes at least twenty yards or
more he completed for two hundred and sixty five yards
in three touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Did have the one interception.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
For everybody who said he can't play, and then you
saw him yesterday, maybe he's somewhere in between.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Is he a great quarterback? Not anymore? Does he have moments? Yes?

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I would keep him in there for at least two
more games. I know everybody once new fresh put in
Jackson Dart. Let Russ kind of figure out or help
figure out who this team is. They're a little better
than you thought yesterday. Dallas's defense might be a little
worse than you thought. But Russ can still throw the

(08:33):
deep ball.

Speaker 6 (08:34):
Yes, Marvin, about five years ago you would have said,
let Russ cook. You were like, let Russ just kind
of try his best.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Let Russ order out, you know, maybe not cook, just
order out. Yeah, Yeah, it's okay. Hober eats you know
Chris and Syracuse. Hi, Chris, what's on your mind?

Speaker 12 (08:54):
Hey, thanks Dance, thanks forgetting And I got a best
and worse for you, My best of Brandon Aubrey. That's
sixty four yard field goal?

Speaker 9 (09:00):
It did?

Speaker 12 (09:01):
It looked like it could have gone seventy yards. And
I know when sports sometimes you have to modify the
rules a little bit. They did for Gretzky and hockey,
and not just Brandon Aubrey in the NFL, but the
a lot of kickers are kicking the ball so much
longer now, And I was think of one thing that
they could do. Make the end zones instead of ten yards,
make them fifteen yards. That'll add five yards onto the

(09:22):
field goal. And think about when you're in the red
zone for offenses. That extra five yards is going to
expand your playbook. They're going to get way more touchdowns
as opposed to short field goals. And my worst to
the Giants. All those penalties and a couple of more
bad calls, and one of them in particular, the Giants
defender had Dak in his hand, take him to the ground,

(09:42):
and then he does exactly what the NFL has been
imploring the players to do. The defender turned himself on
his side and did not put any pressure on Dak
as he went down, and it wasn't a late hit,
and he still got flagged. I mean, trying to play
aggressive defense in today's has to be so challenging.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Thank you, Chris. Yeah, you're watching kickers.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
But here we are again that they're doing it so
well now we want to change the rules. Is that
fair to somebody who, hey, you know that that guy
keeps hit Aaron Judge keeps hitting home runs.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
That's not fair.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Imagine if we outlawed Peyton Manning changing plays at the
line of scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Hey, he does it better than everybody.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Like, at some point you have to be respectful to
the Hey, Steph Curry, you're making too many threes.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
You're too good at that. Kareem no more skyhook.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
At some point you do have to acknowledge that they
figured out the system, that these kickers are really, really good. Now, aesthetically,
the NFL does not like this. They don't want the games.
But if it comes down to a kick from sixty
yards out, to me, that's exciting. Do I like somebody

(11:01):
having eight field goals in a game? No, But if
you're really good at it, you're a weapon. And I
got to be fair to you. It's like, Shack's too
big now he can't play. I remember playing pee wee
football and there was a kid who was too big.
He couldn't play. I'm like, damn, he's too He's not

(11:24):
allowed to play because he's too big.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yes, Todd, but much like the Toush push, Now you
guys can find a way to stop it or get
better at it. On offense, you find yourself a kicker
that can consistently kick fifty five six of the yard
field goals. That's the only way to counteract it. Don't
ban it or anything.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Well, are you okay with the toush push.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
I don't love the aesthetics of it, and if gender
was doing it successfully, I would love it. So you
know that's what they're doing. I don't think there's anything
illegal about it. Find a way to stop it or
make sure your team.

Speaker 13 (11:50):
Can do it.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
To me, every NFL fan base would be fine with
it if their team was doing it. If they were
doing it well, they would be fine with this. I
don't look, it's not the most exciting play, but it
is football.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
It's me lining up against you.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I think the NFL has its out and that is
we can't officiate this.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeh see Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
I think as a neutral, I'm more interested in a
neutral's opinion of the tush push at this point because
I'm neutral. I really couldn't care less the Eagles do.
But man, was it boring to watch it?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Really? Was it?

Speaker 14 (12:28):
Really?

Speaker 3 (12:29):
I don't know why.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
This weekend it really got under my skin.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
Yes, Tom Brady had a good point when he was
talking about it. When the Eagles tried on one play
and they didn't make it. They were discussing how they
spot the ball, and Tom goes, well, the officials come
in from the side and they're still eyeballing the spot
and then it becomes measured by the computer. There's no
chip in the ball. And then Tom goes, so, how
do they spot it? Because they show them running in.
You can't see Jalen Hurts. There's no visual on Jalen Hurts,

(12:53):
and Tom goes, they're judging the pile. If the pile
didn't move, they keep the ball where it is. If
it moves, you get a first down.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
By the way, Tom out good game.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
And I know I've been critical of him, but I'm
only critical because I've been around this for a long
long time and sometimes you can see somebody over prepares.
And I was told that he hired a stat person
to give him all this information. And sometimes you're not
just letting the game come to you, and that's what
he needs to do. Just let the game come to you,

(13:23):
and then if you can use these resources, great, but
don't cram things in. Just give me an honest opinion
of you and all your experience.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
And he's better. He's better this year. But he should be.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
I mean, this isn't about football knowledge, it's understanding TV.
And this is lost on a lot of analysts. They're like, oh,
I know football, I go okay, But do you know
football and how you can fit it into a TV
game and the time that you have and making sure
that you don't go too long so the play by

(13:58):
play guy doesn't have time to be able to accurately
set up the play.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Get in, get out? What do you see?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Are you seeing something nobody else is seeing? Why did
that happen? Why didn't that happen? I mean that's really
what this is about. Nobody is going to question Tom's
football acumen, but it's do you sound natural? Are you
letting the game come to you? Are you trying to
force things? Are you trying to be overly prepared? And yes,
you can be overly prepared. And I think Tom it

(14:27):
feels like is settling back in and just relaxing a
little bit. It's just like playing quarterback. I'm gonna try
to do fifteen different things. No, simplify it. And I
would say the same thing to any analyst, not just Tom.
Simplify it. You'll be better. All right, We'll take a break.
Bill Kawer set to join us. What's he think of

(14:47):
the Tush push and does he agree that maybe the
NFL now has an out where they can in the
off season say we just can't officiate this accurately anymore.
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Speaker 2 (15:41):
We will give you our best and worst of the
weekend coming up. More of your phone calls as well.
He's the Hall of Fame coach Bill Cower, super Bowl
Champion and you can see him on CBS the NFL
Today Studio analyst coach, Good to see you again. How
do you not overreact to the first two weeks of
the season as a coach, Well.

Speaker 14 (16:02):
You can't, Dan. I think the biggest thing you do
is is just kind of gain information about your football
team and try to find ways to win, but constantly
adjusting and adapting as you go through the first month,
because I think you know, you really don't know what
you have and one thing you have to keep in mind.
I think now the way people are approaching the preseason,
the early first game you're going to see these guys

(16:22):
play a whole game is last week, and so now
you have the second week where now you're a little
bit probably more sore, so you're prepping for this. So
I always thought that first month is trying to kind
of get a gauge for where your football team, your strengths,
your flaws, and then in the meantime, trying to find
ways to win games to stay in the hunt in
that first month. So if you go five hundred, I

(16:43):
think you're good. Obviously you don't have to a fast start.
It gives you a little bit of leeway. In the
middle of the season we hit those inevitable laws. So
but It's been an exciting first two weeks, no question
about it.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
But it feels like Bill Belichick was given credit for
eating September like it was his preseason. Like those first
four games, we're going to get everybody. We're going to
find out what kind of football team, Like did you
do that as well? That you could look at an
entire month and go, then we can figure out who
we are.

Speaker 14 (17:15):
Yeah, I really wanted to kind of know what we
couldn't do more than what we could do. I mean,
because I think there's some things that you kind of
adapt and adjust a philosophy that's around what your strengths are,
trying to mask the flaws that you see that show up.
You know, you do something one week as a circumstance,
you do something two weeks in a row it's a trend.

(17:36):
You do something that's three weeks in a row that's
potentially a problem or that's a strength. So I mean,
I think that's the biggest thing you're trying to do
is understand what it is. But you also don't want
to make sure that you have flexibility in your system
so you can adapt and adjust injuries to to who
you're playing right now, where somebody starts to stand out,
you want to get them more involved into the game plan.
So it's really a fact finding month to me, and

(17:58):
at the same time still any ways to win games
so that you don't fall too far in a hole.
And if you're more obviously if you go three and one,
if you go four and on that first month, it
just gives you some leeway as you go down this.
Like I said before, it's hard to sustain it for
four months. You don't want to be playing your best
football at the beginning. You want to play your best
football at the end. But you off to a fast
start really helps.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
How would you assess the Steelers after two games?

Speaker 14 (18:24):
Well, I mean, I think they did a lot of
good things in Week one. That's certainly a tough loss. Yesterday,
I think you know it's again, I mean, with that offense,
there's going to be some mistimings that you saw. I
thought it was interesting and you saw a lot of
slants of DK metcalf. We're behind him in the first week,
which means you know, you know, Aaron's trying to get

(18:45):
a gauge for DK. This week was a couple were
in front of them, So there's that timing element. That
just takes the game time element and seeing who plays faster,
who plays slower. There's some injuries that are going through
right now, and then certainly what happened with Caleb Johnson.
I think that the with the with the uh you know,
with the kickoff. It reminds me going back in two
thousand in Plexico Burst his first year, and it goes

(19:09):
Week five, we were playing the Jacksonville Jaguars in Jacksonville,
Plexyville goes over the middle of the field, catches a
dig route, goes to the ground, gets up and spikes
the ball and he did. They was never touched. They
catch the ball. He's wondering why everyone keeps playing and
he realizes, Oh, yeah, I'm in the NFL, and you

(19:30):
know what, you have to tag me down. So fank goodness,
we were winning like twenty we had a big lead.
I'm going I hope that is a great teaching moment
for you, I says, because it didn't cost us the game,
but disunderstanding the Unnational Football League, you know, you gotta
be tagged down. And I think for Kato Johnson going
back there, seeing the ball going over his head, he
see he realized he didn't touch it. He went into

(19:50):
the end zone. So it's just gonna be a touch back,
no catob it's the NFL. You gotta jump on it.
So I don't think anyone felt worse about that he did.
It's a teaching moment that I'm in, which it came
at a very bad time in the game. But you know,
that is kind of the National Football League. I think
Mike Tomlin said it best yesterday that you know, the
week before, they get a fumble on a putt return
and they end up going in and scoring and getting

(20:12):
to win, and yesterday they have a blunder in the
kicking game again. And so the kicking game, I thought
these first two weeks had been very instrumental in football games.
And you're starting to see the kickoff now coming back
into play. So in the past I think we probably
have kept players because we weren't thinking about special teams,
how much coverage. Well, you start going to start thinking
about it right now. And the kickers we see in

(20:33):
miss section points. Then we see a sixty four yarder
at the end of regulation, followed up by another one
at the end of overtime. So the kicking game has
played a big part these first two weeks.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
How where are you in the moment of yelling at
a player when you know everything's televised, there's a camera
on you constantly. But you know you saw this in
the Jacksonville game yesterday with coaching quarterback, when you coached Hall,
Where were you?

Speaker 14 (21:00):
I don't think I didn't want to be aware. It's
an emotional game. I think the biggest thing they understood
with me is I wanted to be able to address
it at the moment. And if I felt at times
that I need to be the common storm, which means
there's too much hecticness going around. I was the calm,
but sometimes I needed to be the storm. I felt
like we're sleepwalking out there. I'm going to start getting
the people's faces and start waking them up, I said.

(21:21):
Because so it really is to me that job of
the head coach to kind of gauge where your football
team is and I think, at the same time know
who the players are. There's some guys that think it's
okay to jump outside. No it's not okay. They'll never
be okay. Pre snap penalty me is a lack of
focus that you have on your football team and that's
totally unacceptable, you know, and taking care of the football.

(21:42):
Sometimes those things happen. We see more punchouts now. I
talked about that yesterday in our show is you know
the peanut punch that Charles Tillman punch out had become
very instrumental, and so protecting the football in space is
very very critical. Protecting the football overall is critical. Pre
snap penalty is unacceptable. I think it's who you are
and with your who you're with. But also if you're

(22:03):
gonna yell at that persona sure you pat him on
the back too when they play they have a good play.
So I just think and making sure they know where
they stand with you, and you make sure you know
where you stand with them, and make sure you know
who the player is.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Bill Kaher, Hall of Famer and analyst for the NFL
today on CBS the tush push prominent yesterday. And I
don't know if you've changed your opinion one way or another,
but I brought up that Dean Blandino during the broadcast
said that he's given up on this. He doesn't know
how you can officiate this play.

Speaker 14 (22:37):
Your thoughts, well, oh, I've been against the play for
two years and made my feelings quite known. It's not
a football play. It's a scrum, you know. And they
had that Rugby Dan. You know what they didn't Rugby,
they eliminated the scrum. They took it out because it
wasn't a safe play. But we keep it in. The
NFL makes sense of that one. They got rid of
it because of hers, So we're gonna have to wait

(22:58):
for some kind of catastrophe injury to change it. I
don't think it's a good looking play. I know that
Philadelphia is good at It has nothing to do with
the Philadelphi egles for me. But you know, I think
you saw that play yesterday and how many times we
see it. It's because of our technology today that they're
leaving before the balls even snapped. So I mean, I
don't know how we can somehow look at that play

(23:20):
and understand that it's an injury waiting to happen, I
think personally, and it doesn't even a good looking play.
And pushing people down the field, when do you stop
the push? And I think it makes it very hard
for officials to understand, you know, at what point is
to play over with with this play? So I don't
know so I just I feel like it's we're going

(23:41):
to have to get more information. There's two votes away
from being eliminated in the league meeting a year ago.
We'll see where it is a year from now. But
I just, I mean, I think it's a dangerous play.
I know there's not been any data to support that,
but I don't even think it's a good looking play. Listen,
you want to do the quarterback sneak, then't do what
Bart's do did with Jerry Kramer. Run over your good

(24:01):
offensive lineman under frozen tundra. I'm not taking away the
quarterback snake. Love the quarterback snake, but not the touch push.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Come on, yeah, I think Philadelphia would still be almost
as successful given Jalen Hurts. There's no quarterback built like
Jalen Hurds. I don't like the people behind Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 13 (24:20):
I don't.

Speaker 14 (24:20):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I don't like that aspect of it. But I do
think there's an out no coach, and that is that
you can't officiate this. You know, you're you're just somebody
in the neutral zone. Did somebody jump? But like there's
so much where do you spot the ball?

Speaker 9 (24:34):
There?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
There's language in here now that I think because you
don't have the injury data, now the NFL can say
we just can't officiate this correctly.

Speaker 14 (24:44):
I I don't. I listen, please go on the platform.
I'm supporting you one hundred percent. I I I agree
with you on multiple levels. And I also to go
back to an everything Dan, I think, I go say this,
when does it? When does a scrum over? And now
take that scrum down the field. And now you're gonna
get players who are so used to pushing the other

(25:04):
players when you're in space. That is a safety issue
that's involved with that as well. So I mean, pushing players.
Why can't we push on defense? Why is it just
the offensive guys get to push? I mean, so it's
almost an unfair legality to the play like this. So,
I mean, it's just it's so one sided. It's not
a pretty play. It's not a strategical play at all either.

(25:26):
I think football is a string game of strategy. And
again I'm not trying to get rid of of the
quarterback sneak. And there's a certain art to the quarterback sneak.
And I agree with you, Jail hurtsill be good at it,
he takes a step back. He's always having a feel
for where they try to sit there and take away
this gap. He'll take it one gap winer. And so
there is an art. I mean, we talk, We used
to practice a quarterback sneak all the time with Cordell Stewart.

(25:49):
Ben Roethlisberger a big guy, and so there's a degree
of hesitancy that you have to have with the quarterback sneak.
But to have guys push you from behind and get
that lineup that we saw yesterday, b formation like a
flock of geese getting ready to take off one south
or something. I don't know. It's just it's just it's
just I don't know. I don't like the look of it.
I don't think it's a safe play and I don't

(26:11):
think it's strategical in any manner.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Well, you had the Broncos. They got penalized for leverage
yesterday on that field goal. They are not allowed to
push up the middle, And I get I know that's
a tough penalty to call.

Speaker 14 (26:27):
It's a tough penalty to call. It was the correct call.
And again, you look at some of these things that
are being done at that time. I mean, at the
game that was won, literally taken away from them just
because of an oversight. And I mean, right, really, here's
a guy I never even made a sixty yorders, so
you're going out there he's already beyond what he's never
made one that far, So why you even put yourself

(26:48):
in that situation where you would even have it to
be misinterpreted? So you know, again, I'm sure that's one
Sean probably feels like he would have had back too,
is you know, and they get kidd and not just
the fifteen yards I mean, okay, I mean I leverage
like that. Come on, maybe five yards okay, at least
fifteen yards is pretty severe.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I'm wondering if you're the Bengals with Joe Burrow now
out for three months, do you reach out to the
Falcons for Kirk Cousins? Would you reach out to Derek Carr,
who last week said on the show not officially retired
if somebody called him maybe? But at what point do
you go is Jake Browning good enough with the Bengals

(27:31):
or do we go out and get a better quarterback?

Speaker 14 (27:34):
Oh? I think Jake Browning is going to be the
guy right now. But I agree with you. I think
Kirk Cousins. I watched him last night sitting there with
Michael Pennix where he's at, and I know that, you know,
having him as a backup right now for the Falcons
is something that you may have to give up something.
But listen, I think the Cincinnati Bengals said they're all in.
They were all in when I signed to Higgins. They're
all in when he made that deal with Trey Hendrickson

(27:55):
to get him to come in to play this year.
He's played his butt off his first two weeks, so
I just think they have to look at a backup playing.
I think Nate Brown is the guy. He knows that offense.
Zach Taylor, I think has done a great job with
his team getting them ready to play in these first
two weeks. But you know, three months is a long
period of time and I would hate to jeopardize that
and not having a quality backup behind it. So I
don't know where Derek Carry is with his shoulder. I

(28:17):
think was just mentioned. I think the best guy out
there right now is a guy like Kirk Cousins, because
I think he is now here moved from his injury.
He looked like a guy who's very antsy to play
on that sideline. Last night, he was watching Michael Pennixman. Man,
He's like, you know, that's my ex team out there,
So I'd be a guy I would have on my radar.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Good to talk to you. I didn't get you fired
up this Monday like I had before.

Speaker 14 (28:40):
No, no, no, you always get me fired up. I
was fir enough to come on here, and we didn't
even talk about the games tonight. I wanted to talk.
I mean, let's just talk about one second. Okay, the
infamous Jim Harball going against Pete Carroll. This goes so
far back. Jim Harball was at Stanford, Pete Carroll was
at USC. They used to recruit against each other. Then

(29:01):
they go to the NFC West. Pete Grill goes to Seattle,
Jim Harball goes to San Francisco, and they used to
compete against each other. And here they are tonight. Here
they are the Vegas going against the Chargers winner first
place in the ANFC West. You got to love this scenario.
The game within the game. We're gonna have that tonight

(29:22):
and this is watch those two guys on the sideline.
There's a genuine dislike for each other, a genuine respect
for each other. But this is deep, deep rooted.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Did you have one of those rivalries with the coach?

Speaker 14 (29:37):
Oh, I didn't like the Baltimore Ravens when I coached,
and that was with Brian Billing.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Did you know like Brian Billick?

Speaker 14 (29:47):
Well, he was a part of the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
I'm just saying that would be a yes.

Speaker 14 (29:55):
I just it was. He was a raven.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
But he was a genius. He was called a genius.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
You probably were bothered by that that he was an
offensive genius.

Speaker 16 (30:05):
Well, you know, you want to get you started, this started,
this that athletic. It's a nice Monday, a lot of
good winds. We're not going down his staff. That's another day.
An okay, all right, we'll pick up on that.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Why don't you just take a walk in Central Park
and cool down a little bit.

Speaker 14 (30:24):
Okay, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. Thank you. So
I know I guess I kind of I guess I
kind of brought that coaching thing up, did I?

Speaker 9 (30:31):
Yes?

Speaker 14 (30:32):
Yes, Okay, my bad.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
All right, thank you, coach. Good to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
That's Bill Koller, Hall of Famer, NFL Today and he
goes it's oh, buddy, I just asked the questions and
then whatever your answer is, I follow up. So it
certainly sounded like he didn't like Brian Billick. All of
a sudden, it was like we saw coach again. That

(30:57):
wasn't the analyst, that was coach. We just say, fired up,
fired up. Jeremy and Florida. Hi, Jeremy, what's on your
mind today?

Speaker 14 (31:06):
How you doing?

Speaker 13 (31:07):
Dan Patrick and Danna Hey, Jeremy. So going on this
touch push thing, this is getting pretty much out of hand.
You look at some of those plots just yesterday the
touch push. First for the touchdown that was a touchdown.
They showed the third angle. It was clear touchdown. He
was on top of two different people. And then when
they went for the first down it was clearly on

(31:28):
the third angle that they showed it was clearly over
the line. I mean almost a whole football length.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Okay, it's tough to officiate. I'm going to take Dean
Blandino at his word. He was the head of officials
for a long time. He'll join us tomorrow we can
talk about it. But I do think that given this
language now, when Dean Blandino said This wasn't private, this
was on the broadcast. I give up because you can't

(31:57):
officiate it. Keith and cal Good morning, Keith, best and
worst of the weekend.

Speaker 9 (32:05):
Five ten and a suck for fourth time, long time.
Then best of the weekend parents.

Speaker 17 (32:16):
But Crawford, Yeah, annihilating, annihilating Canelo, but Netflix, the entertainment
value was I got to hit him with the beheim
a man, worst of the weekend Giants fan. I know,
I know, Russell Wilson two hundred and fifty yards looking good.
But for your morale, no, you still can't lose and

(32:40):
win in the NFL sucket train Gilfort.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
All right, thank you.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Keith, Yeah, Crawford, man, he connected with one punch and
you could see Canelo almost look like, where did that
punch come from?

Speaker 3 (32:55):
That?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
That wasn't in my preparation there, and he was it
turned around. His head was almost you know, like the Exorcist,
just like spun him around. But he you know, now
you're looking at and he was the better fighter. Now
they're looking at his place in history after a fight
like that. Yeah, Paul, I'm looking at the replay now.

Speaker 7 (33:17):
It looks like something out of a video game where
the body turns all the way around with the head.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
But his reaction.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Canello's reaction was like, wait a minute, what that that
That wasn't in the scouting report. You know, you see
spent coming out all right, let me take it. And
he got paid a lot of money in that loss. Well,
take a break. We'll bring you our best and Worst
of the weekend right after this.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
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we got two pole questions working right now. Uh, the
the worst of the weekend? Who had the worst weekend

(34:03):
college football wise? Right now, Ucla has just jumped barely
ahead of Clemson. That's neck and neck right now at
the worst weekend, Tennessee coming in very much last.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
There. Nobody's down on Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
All right, Time for our best and worst of the weekend, Todd,
I'll start with you best of the weekend.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
New Mexico graciously accepts a payment of one point two
million dollars from UCLA to played them Friday night at
the Rose Bowl. It's apart passed within it with the
Bruins money and a victory. Lobo's beat them thirty five
to ten, outscoring UCLA twenty one nothing in the fourth quarter,
and the Bruins then fire their coach worst other than
the Broncos in a twenty ten loss to LSU, Florida
quarterback DJ Langley throws five picks in baton Rouge Sally,

(34:44):
including a pick six.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Not goo good, okay, but they didn't get blown out
and he throws five interceptions.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
There's that possible?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
And is that direct deposit from UCLA or did they
just give one of those big checks that you get
at a golf tournament there?

Speaker 7 (34:59):
Yeah, Paul, what if you double down on the embarrassment
and make the uclaad walk a check over in front
of the crowd as they're leaving over to the New.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Mexico Guys Seaton Best and worst of the weekend.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
My best of the weekend West Virginia tying the game late,
beating Pitt in overtime, Rich rod Is back backyard brawl,
Let's go vamos. My worst of the weekend is actually
we've been talking about it all morning, but just watching
the Eagles Push Push, I don't mind the Chiefs losing,
especially since I'm still riding high on.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
The prediction of.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
Them not making the playoffs, still my big call. But
damn that play got annoying fast.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Marvin Best and worst of the weekend.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
My best of the weekend, I'm going to high school football.
Poplarville High School running back ty Keys seventeen carries five
hundred and forty six yards, eight touchdowns. He's a four
star junior. Worst of the weekend the star time of
the Alvarez Crawford fight. What time did you start? I
don't know because I fell asleep, stayed up until about twelve,

(36:04):
and I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Do it now.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I think it's midnight, close to midnight or a little
after when it started.

Speaker 7 (36:11):
Paul, I'm going to go with Georgia Tech beating Clemson.
Haines King and the crew. He's one of those really
good college quarterbacks. Does it all. And then I was
give it to Missouri football. The Tigers are three and
oh they've had a good run the past six or
seven years. They ripped up ul Monroe the Raging Cagents.
They ran for four hundred and twenty seven yards on
the Raging Cagents and the raging Cagents two completions in.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
The game tonight the Buccaneers getting two and a half
against Texans. Chargers are giving three and a half to
my Raiders. Adam in Michigan, Hi, Adam, what's on your
mind today?

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Hey Dan? How's it going?

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Good?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Adam?

Speaker 9 (36:46):
Worse? Strongo's won and then they didn't tough golf best.
I'd like to say Tottenham Arizona Wildcat football, but no,
I had a little story I want to share, if
that's okay. I got a very nice restaurant and the
big Blue State up north and Friday night, friend of
the show, Mike Doc and Merick was dining in with

(37:08):
his wife. It's awesome. I heard his voice not in
my section. I'm news with my third day there, so
I waited till last they had Eaton came by, said
what a huge fan.

Speaker 10 (37:19):
I was.

Speaker 9 (37:20):
My mom's a retired English teacher, so I'd have her
watch games with me and be like, listen to his vocabulary,
you know, like nice Todan Forward dishes on behind spoos
one the verse run. It's just his vocabularies, it's unmatched.
And he asked, he said, do you want a picture?
I said, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
I'm new here, you know.

Speaker 9 (37:38):
Might be frowned upon, might get in trouble. He said, no, no, no, no,
my wife will use her phone, take a picture and
be in trouble, says Doc insisted. So he did. He
took a picture, he sent it to my mom. Just
great and overall, what an amazing, great fellow he is.
I know you've interviewed him a couple of months back,
and love for you to have him back again when

(37:59):
hockey season starts to ramp up. And just one of
the Mount Rushmore's of sports announcers and as humans in
the world.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
I hope you guys have a great week and you Adam,
Thank you Doc Emerck one of my favorite people. Let
alone play by play voices John and Montana, John Tanna.

Speaker 18 (38:20):
Hey, good morning, DP, love the show. Good morning Danna.
I just want to give a best and a bester
for the weekends.

Speaker 19 (38:28):
Best was not for a for Polly the excuse me
that Montana came out for the go ahead touchdowns beating
North Dakota this weekend.

Speaker 18 (38:39):
That was fantastic And I was topping it off for
my bester being my fortieth birthday yesterday, and you know,
just an overall great weekend of football between the Cowboys
coming back to win even though Russell Wilson had four
hundred and fifty plus yards, Broncos losing. I love always
seeing that, but also just hopefully kicking off of the

(39:00):
best is with the.

Speaker 9 (39:01):
Tampa Bay winning tonight.

Speaker 18 (39:03):
So thanks for getting me on today, guys.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Thank you, John, Happy birthday, belated Happy birthday, Jake and
Buffalo Hi Jake.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Best and worst of the weekend.

Speaker 20 (39:13):
Hey Dan, Yeah, that's similar to the last collar obviously
the Bills, but then just a really great weekend of
games as the whole. Cowboys Panthers even kept an interesting
at the end, so it was fun to have another
good week. My worst is this new virtual force down measurement.
Nothing obvious came up yesterday, but I'm confused as how
like the league talks about how advanced they are and

(39:33):
broadcast is talking about all the cameras that they're in
to measure, and what they're actually measuring is based on
the spot of the ball, which is determined by the
rep that's twenty yards away and marks the ball with
the foot, So I'm still confused of the process of
the whole.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I know it's not really modern technology still goes back.
And I've been saying this for a long long time.
I'm just you know, if I'm an official, I'm sort
of guessing here it comes down to inches, you know,
is as far as when we had these measurements. But
but this is like, you know, he's in the ballpark
of where the ball is going to be marked. Just

(40:09):
they'll make more advanced technology in that area, it feels like.
But it is a you know, I think he's kind
of in the you know, he's in the neighborhood.

Speaker 14 (40:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
See, That's why I do like the idea that we
don't like the technology that we're using now, because I
like it so much better when a guy just randomly
spotted it in a place.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah just felt yeah back in the good old days
where I don't know or there, Yeah right right in
this area.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I might be a yard or two off. Yeah, the
human element. All right, Two hours in the books, one
more to go. The big news today, Joe Burrow is
out for three months. He will need surgery. Is Dean
Blandino joining us today?

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Tom That will be tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Oh okay.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
He's on a flight back from Kansas City today.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Oh okay,
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