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Poll question for the final hour of the program is
going to be what seed O'Connor?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Let me update you here. Who looks more super bowlish?
Chargers have about sixty seven percent of that vote. Okay,
to an OAFC team that won't make the playoffs? Your
options there, Bill's Chargers, Bengals, Colts. Bengals have seventy seven
percent of the all right, so they're buying into my
Colts here, all right?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I like it. Danny in second place there, Danny dimes
whether or not in last though, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Your Colts had the highest scoring margin in the NFL,
outscoring their opponents so far.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You sound surprised.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
I think America is surprised.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
H I'm not America. I just try to entertain America.
And so does Dean Blandinos segue Fox Sports, NFL college
football rules analyst, former NFL VP of Officiating, watching the game.
Next thing I know, Dean Blandino's says he's done with
the toush push can't officiate. I go, Dean, your microphone
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is on. What was what was the reaction? Why did
you have that reaction in the moment?
Speaker 7 (02:26):
That was a visceral reaction.
Speaker 8 (02:28):
Look, we had the game obviously Chiefs Eagles, big Super
Bowl rematch, and you know, we had a couple of
the Eagles. Look the play, they run it better than
anyone else, and they work at it and it's impressive
what they do. But just in that game, we had
a couple two goal to goal plays. Third down looks
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like Hertz is in, they rule them short. It's really
tough to review. Can't see the football all these bodies.
Next play fourth and goal, they will touchdown. You've got
both guards moving early. Should have been a false start.
Then later in the game another big first down conversion
and you've got the guard moving early. So it just
got to the point for me where I've never I've
been on record, I don't love the play. It was
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illegal to push runners forever, you know, since the inception
of the league until two thousand and five. We took
it out, and in hindsight, I think that was a mistake,
and now we're stuck with this play that that is
a really difficult play to officiate. It just is and
personally it's not a I just don't think it's a
great play to watch.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But you can officiate this by calling the guards, you know,
off side. Why don't we start with that, no question?
Speaker 7 (03:41):
Look, look those are those should have been called.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
That's not that I'm not condoning and making an excuse
for that.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
Was that should have been called.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
But I think once you take that out of the mix,
it's just with all those bodies and trying to get
the spot and we're trying to be perfect on these spots,
and now we have virtual measurements, it's.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
Just a tough play.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
My thing is, it's just not a it's it's not
when you think about the rules, it's just not a
fair play. The defense can't push the runner back and
gain an advantage. There's always forward progress, but we let
the offense do it. And and look, I was watching
the highlights of the Cowboys Giants game and the fourth
quarter that's everything the NFL is.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
You've got, you know, Russ.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
Wilson is is to elite neighbors and Dak leading. And
then in the history of the tush push, not once
have I ever seen it on Sports Center's top ten plays.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
I just haven't.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
It's just I don't know how these officials spot the
ball in that scrum. I really don't. Now you have
the overhead shot, but those the officials, they can't rely
on that overhead camera shot. Can they just spot the ball.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
After the fact in review.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
Yes, But but you've got two officials that are down
the line looking at it, and they're they're gonna they're
gonna come in as the play, you know, as the
as the pile kind of starts, and try to get
a look at the football and quite frankly, look at
the goal line mechanically. And this this has been the
deal forever. If they don't see the football, they're not
going to rule on it. They're going to go in
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dig in the pile. And if the ball is over
the goal line at that point, that's a touchdown. And
so that ball may have been short, but eventually it
worked its way after the runner was on the ground
over the goal line.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
So again, it's a tough play that's been look.
Speaker 8 (05:19):
Short yardage plays are tough sneaks, those types of things.
But I think this play just kind of adds another
layer to it.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But Dean, I am shocked that the officials didn't convey
this to the owners to say we're having a hard
time officiating this. This is no bias against anybody. This
is we're trying to do our job and we can't
do our job given the context of this play. I
don't know if that's enough of an out for the
NFL and these owners this next go around. They it's
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not a pretty play. We know that if I can't
spot the ball and do my job, then that factors
in something else. They keep trying to say health. There's
no data yet of injuries there. You can't say, hey,
somebody's going to get hurt, which they probably will. But
you got to say, hey, guys, esthetically, it's not pleasing
and we can't do our job. Is that enough to
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have them get rid of this play?
Speaker 8 (06:13):
It should be when you think about like I said,
it's not when we think offense, defensive balance, it's not
a fair play when you do have the difficulty in officiating,
and that's when you look at rules changes, you look
at player safety, you look at competitive equity, and you
look at officiating consistency. And if you can't consistently officiate this,
it's a problem.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
I think everybody.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
Look, they were two votes short of getting it out.
I think everybody had Each club had its own reasons.
I do believe because the Eagles won the Super Bowl,
there were some teams that didn't want to come across
is we can't stop this play. We're going to take
the easy route and we're going to vote it out.
I think if they don't win the Super Bowl and
we still have issues with this play, there's probably a
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better chance that it goes away.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Talking to Dean Blandino, he used to be the head
of officials for the NFL. He doesn't need that headache anymore.
Fox Sports, NFL college football rules analysts, even the neutral
zone like it seems like there's there's an infraction on
every one of these toush pushes. And I don't the
Eagles would still be successful. They would with with Jalen Hurts.
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You don't need somebody pushing from behind. You can still
call it a quarterback sneak. I just can't have somebody
pushing from behind. That just seems you want to think
about an injury. You could have an injury with your
quarterback being pushed from behind. Jamin Is you know head
in there.
Speaker 9 (07:36):
But.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
No question and look, and I agree with you.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
And I was talking to somebody yesterday at one of
the clubs, and I think the Eagles would be successful
on QB sneaks.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
QB sneaks.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
You know, that's a high percentage play when it's third
and one, fourth and one, So they would be successful.
And that's why I don't think this needs It was
illegal forever. I don't know why we need to keep
this push. We don't let the defense do it.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Why are we letting the offense do it?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Point of emphasis with taunting this year? How did this
come about?
Speaker 8 (08:09):
I think the league the data that they presented in
the off season, and how they quantify this, I don't know.
But they said, okay, they said they said taunting was
up like fifty percent. Violent gestures, sexually suggestive, those types
of things that are in bad taste were up.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Oh, I mean it was like one hundred and thirty
percent whatever the number was.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
So they've obviously looked at film and they felt, okay,
identified these actions and they want to emphasize it because
it it does look sportsmanship is important, it's something you
know it. Trey has that trickle down effect. Kids are
watching those types of things and you saw it. I
mean there was a big play in that in that
Dallas Giants scheme where where you had three fouls on
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the Giants, three fouls and CD Lamb gets up and
gets a taunt and it all offset. So it's a
big penalty and this is going to be a major deal.
You know, as long as this emphasis is in place.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
And protecting quarterbacks, has anything changed.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Nothing's changed. I think we've gone again player safety. Health
and safety is the top priority. I think we've gone
a little too far with some of these hits. I
think the quarterback position obviously, it's you're in a defenseless
posture when you're in that passing posture and your focus
is downfield. So yeah, the headneck area, those types of things,
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the late hits, I do think we've you know, we
see some of these hits where it's just a defensive player,
especially a big defensive lineman, you know, fighting through blocks
and making a tackle and just happens to land the
wrong way and it's fifteen yards. I think that's tough.
But that's not going away that you listed all these
injuries that we have in this league, right, we need
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the Joe Burrows, we need the Jayden Daniels and so
they're going to protect that position.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
What about listening in on replay? We've seen this with
the acc I've been saying for years, I think with gambling,
with total transparency, and I don't know if that's enough
that the NFL or the officials are going to say, yeah,
come on in and listen. But boy'd be entertaining.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
What do you think would definitely be entertaining because I've
been involved in a lot of discussions where if that
went out publicly, people, we definitely definitely.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
You know, get a chuckle out of it. Look, I
think can you.
Speaker 10 (10:22):
Give me it?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
For instance, though without names.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
No, I'll I'll look. I was involved in a very
controversial play.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
You might have heard of it, the des Bryant play,
you know, Packers Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Should have been a touchdown by the way.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
Yeah, there you go. So the play happens that we
see it happen.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
I'm watching, you know, Mike mccartheugh's coaching the Packers at
the time, and in my head, I'm going, he's going
to throw the challenge flag.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
He's going to throw the challenge back. And as soon
as it came out, I said to the room. Get
ready the.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
S h I T is about to hit the fan
because I knew it was going to be controversial either way, right, So,
so those conversations and I think it's it's it's two sides.
I think transparency is so important, like you said, because
if you can just listen in, it eliminates any of
the conspiracy. Right now, it might it might be like, Wow,
those guys don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
You know, it might go from conspiracy to competence. You
don't want that, but but it.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
Definitely would eliminate some of that, some of that hey,
what what are they doing?
Speaker 7 (11:23):
We we just don't get it.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
If you had it, I'll give you a do over
with Dez Bryant.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
Under the current rule. Now, that was the that was
the rule. That was an easy one. Today it's a catch,
and I get it. I understand why people would have
thought that that was a catch. It was a layup,
damn come.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
On, stupid rule. Right, well, it.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
Was a I think the catch rule.
Speaker 8 (11:49):
I think the problem we ran into is that forever
before replay, the catch rule was written so the on
field officials could make that call in real time, right,
they can't slow it up.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
They can't.
Speaker 8 (11:59):
So that was the rule and that's why, you know,
hold on to it when you hit the ground was
a thing. But now we have replay, it changes how
we can look at these things.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Are officials allowed to be out of shape?
Speaker 7 (12:11):
There shouldn't be? That's that's I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It feels like there's a workout program here that like
the ED Hockey League propars.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Definitely it has been, and I think we just know more.
Speaker 8 (12:22):
Look when I first started at the league office, and
I don't know if I've ever told you this, but
ninety five my first officiating clinic, the physical test that
they had to pass to be an official at that
clinic was walk a mile, not even times, just not die.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
And now it's much much more stringent.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Do you have a combine for officials?
Speaker 7 (12:48):
They do? They do.
Speaker 8 (12:49):
They have a They have a group that comes in
and you know, strength and conditioning and works with them
and and and you know, and Ed.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
I think Ed might actually.
Speaker 8 (12:59):
Do like his own combine where it's just it's just arms,
you know, it's it's arm dead every day.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It was great to talk to you. Thank you day.
Speaker 10 (13:08):
All right.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
That's Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL College football rules analyst,
former VP of officiating. All Right, guys, we got to
walk a mile. You don't have to run, not gonna
be timed. Just make sure you finish up and don't die.
All right, you can be an NFL official. You're in shape.
Speaker 9 (13:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
That's good stuff from him. Good stuff, Rick and Florida. Hi, Rick,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (13:33):
So when I saw that snippet about Kurt Warner and
how they are Patriots intentionally with defending him, I believe
similar coaching is going on the NFL, especially with past interference.
The offense has so much edge, and I think they're
coaching the defensive backs hold that arm, to wrap that
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arm around and make them make the cold Because I
see so much illegal contact after the five yards and
pass interference and have been watching football sixty five years,
I believe they need to go back to have the
coaches replay, have a few selections if they can replay
a penalty that is not called. And the second point Dan,
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I think to count to that is why aren't the
other teams doing what the Eagles are doing? Is it
just because the Eagles happen to have Jalen Hurts who
can bench press six hundred pounds.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
No, he can squat six hundred pounds. And they have
a great offensive line, and they have a quarterback who
is stronger than any other quarterback with his legs. I'd
love to see him in Saquon Barkley have a squad
off or deadlift because they would probably that'd be a
pretty good showdown there. They would still be successful if
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you don't need to have somebody behind Jalen Hurts. I
don't know if this is around next year, but Dean
brought up a very good point. They won the Super Bowl.
It doesn't You don't want to seem like sour grapes.
We couldn't stop them. They won a Super Bowl, and
if the Eagles don't win a Super Bowl this year,
maybe that would open the door to get rid of
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the tush push. When we come back, we pay tribute
to Robert Redford who passed away at the age of
eighty nine. Great actor, a great director as well. More
of your phone calls as well, and a QB question
for the room. We'll take a break. We're back after
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Speaker 2 (16:13):
Earlier this morning, got word that Robert Redford had passed
away at the age of eighty nine. Quite a life
and leading man. He was in a lot of movies.
He was also a director on some big movies as well,
and Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid, The Sting. I mean,
there's a variety of movies that Redford was in, but
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also became a famous director and really a remarkable, remarkable career,
very very big on conservation throughout his life. Sundance Film
Festival that was started by him as well. Don't think
I ever met him. I don't think we ever had
him on either, but I know later in his life
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he talked about how he was the leading man, you
were the good looking guy, and he was trying to
get out of that, and you know, it sounds weird
to be I don't want to be a leading man.
But I think he wanted to get out of the
pretty boy. But I don't as much as you want
to try, he wasn't able to get out of that.
Poor guy, can't get out of this damn good looking
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leading man.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Yes, PAULI imagine having that as your main problem life,
being too good looking. Yeah, because there was a point
where he was the one seed for good looking guys
in America. Yeah, I mean a long run.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And then you put him with Paul Newman and they
were in a couple of movies. Butch Cassidy and certainly
The Sting. I love the Sting. It's still great, All
the President's Men. He also directed Ordinary People River Runs
through it as well. At eighty nine years of age,
pretty good, Pretty good. He went to play baseball at
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Colorado and his mom died. I think she was around
forty when he was going to go play baseball, started drinking,
got kicked out of school, lost his scholarship, and then
he kind of had to start figuring out what he
was going to do for his career and ended up
taking theater lessons in New York City, and I love that.
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He bought a piece of property, two acres of land
for five hundred dollars, built a cabin in Utah in
nineteen sixty one, and that's where he kind of started
his love affair with that state. But Butch Cassidy and
The Sundance Kid and The Sting, and Radford said that
he really owed Paul Newman because he helped him get
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the role in Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid and the
Sting too in nineteen seventy three, won the Academy Award
for Best Picture. He was also in The Way We Were,
Barbara Streissan, The Great Gatsby and Dustin Hoffman and All
the President's Men, which was about Watergate.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Yes, Pauling and the great sports movie.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
The Natural came out in nineteen eighty four, and it
was a very controversial decision at the time. He played
both himself as the older Roy Haws, but he played
himself at eighteen years old in the movie, which is
very in Glenn Close did it as well. They're twice
that age, more than twice that age. So the earlier scenes.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Of the movie, how old was he when he filmed
The Natural? Yeah, forty he died.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
He would have been about forty five years old when
he filmed The Natural, and he's playing himself as a
senior in high school.
Speaker 10 (19:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I wasn't big on that movie, but I understand why people.
Robert Duval to me was great in that movie as
the sports writer, the columnist. But Glenn Close, all right,
But who was the the cocoon demanded Wilfrid Brimley. Wilford
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Brimley Lean for QUAKEERU.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
He was like thirty one?
Speaker 10 (20:02):
He was.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
He looked the same. He always looked old always. But uh,
Robert Redford that at the age of eighty nine. I'll
sign up for that right now.
Speaker 13 (20:13):
Yes, Tom, Why do you think guys in their forties
looked like there was seventy back then?
Speaker 14 (20:17):
Like Carl O'Connor, Archie By you can name if.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You go back to older Robert Redford didn't look seventy
when he was forty, but almost everyone else.
Speaker 14 (20:23):
Was like forty going on seventy three for somebody All.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Newman didn't look seventy at forty.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
In the seventies. It was before like gym's and workouts, yeah,
and feeling good about yourself.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, we didn't care what we looked like back then.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
He grew old like a man.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
We were a man. We're a man's man.
Speaker 15 (20:40):
Yes, Margaret, maybe he might be generational. But first Robert
Reverend Redford movie I think of is indecent proposal.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Oh, Woody Harrelson.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, he didn't look good and I mean he didn't
come across well in that movie.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
But he was an older, devineer, handsome guy.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Creepy to you. Yeah, and then he's saying, I'll give
you a million dollars if I can sleep with your wife.
Woody Harrelson.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
When you're a billionaire and you're creepy, you're eccentric a
different word. That's a great movie, though, to me, more I.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Felt bad for Woody Harrelson. Woodrow should have held on better.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
You don't loan out your.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Why they wanted the money, they needed the money.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
You don't loan out to me more. That's a lesson
that should have met in the name of the movie.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, it was prime to me more.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Yeah, alrighty, When Robert Redford is the second hottest person
in the movie.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
You know it's good.
Speaker 16 (21:33):
M m.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Uh. It's about a couple of phone calls. George in Texas, Hi, George,
Nobody nobody wraps up, you know a movie career quite
like we do. Nobody eulogizes quite like we do here.
Sorry about that, Robert, Uh, Hey, George, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Hey?
Speaker 17 (21:56):
Well, Radford looked like he was forty when he was
in so anyway, but I've got to take on the
push push. You called it a scrum.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Because it is.
Speaker 17 (22:06):
It's a rugby play.
Speaker 18 (22:07):
So what they.
Speaker 17 (22:08):
Should do is just go on first count and that
way everybody goes at the same time.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Well they you know, Dean Blendino said they missed two
calls on that the offensive line, the two guards they
move before anybody else does. You got to call that
like that has nothing to do with this. Is really
hard to officiate this play. Officiate and off sides or
there's motion here, that's all now, trying to spot the ball,
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I understand that. Just take away the blocker, take just
take away the guy who's doing the pushing, that's all. Now,
that doesn't make it easier to be able to call
this and officiate this because it's still going to look
like a scrum. It's still my line, your line, and
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I'm going to run and do a quarterback sneak. Now
you're going to try to find where the spot is.
It'll still be difficult, but the Eagles will still be successful.
But I thought Dean Blandino said something that will stand out,
and I'll keep this in my mind in the offseason.
If the Eagles hadn't won the Super Bowl, maybe these
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owners would have voted to get rid of it. But
now it looks like sour grapes.
Speaker 15 (23:25):
Yes, Marv, I think if they do take away the
tush push, the rallying cry for the Eagles will be, see,
they don't want us to win, they hate us because
they ain't us, and then it's going to give them
a nice little boost going into the next season. It's
going to be a jealousy thing if you're an Eagles
player or Eagles.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Fan, and that's what I would be saying, that's the
rallying cry. If I'm Nick Sirianni, I'd be like, Hey,
you know you're ostracizing us, you're singling us out here.
We just do it better than everybody else. Everybody else
can do this. We do it better than anybody else.
Ron in Portland, Hi, Ron, good morning.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
Hey Dan, first time, long time, six one and a half,
two seventeen.
Speaker 10 (24:05):
Dude.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
Hey, I've been a Miami Dolphin fan since nineteen seventy
and like Darius, the Dolphins are making me cry. And
you did such a good job getting Brent Musburger in
the Hall of Fame, and I'd like to get a
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rally cry going for John Gruden to the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Okay, John Gruden, I think will coach next year somewhere.
And I was listening to Gary Danielson yesterday, longtime college analyst.
He was on with Mad Dog RUSSA and Gary said,
what about John Gruden to UCLA. I don't know if
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there is a downside to it, but if John's coming in,
then all of a sudden, you're going to be He's
expecting to be a football school. He's not coming in
to be the like Kentucky football it used to be
to Kentucky basketball. He's coming in. He would be coming
in to win. But I think that John now, I
don't know if he gets back into the NFL, and
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I don't know if he wants coach college. But I
think John Gruden will be coaching again. It just feels
like there's a ground swell there. But if you had Gruden,
he's got energy, and he's got a chip on his shoulder,
and he'd be ready to go. Have him in Los
Angeles that could be fun. Keith and Chico. Hi, Keith,
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Welcome back.
Speaker 10 (25:40):
Hey guys, Good morning, Good morning five six.
Speaker 19 (25:46):
I had a couple of random quarterback questions for you guys.
First question, do you think the twenty eighteen quarterback draft
class is the best of all time? I mean, you
have Baker, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen Lamar, and you can't
forget Josh ros In.
Speaker 10 (26:00):
My other question is, as.
Speaker 19 (26:02):
Of now, would you rather have Bryce Young or Caleb
Williams as your quarterback of the future. After the Bears
and Panthers make that trade, someone's got to be considered.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
The winner, right I think I would think so. I
would go back to the eighty four draft if I
was talking about quarterbacks, I'd say that that one was
that was pretty good, pretty good. I would take Caleb
Williams over Bryce Young. I like Bryce Young personally when
we met him in New Orleans. I mean you can't help.
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But like him, he's just slight. He doesn't seem to
be as athletic as Caleb, but I guess Caleb. I
expect Caleb to be great. I'm not expecting Bryce Young
to be great. I'm expecting him to be good. But Caleb,
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I think the expectation level is a whole lot higher.
You can have any thirty year old quarterback is your
quarterback for this season and next season at least thirty
years of age. You got to have him for two years.
Speaker 16 (27:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I'm gonna run down the list you can have. I
got nine quarterbacks. Aaron Rodgers forty one, Joe Flacco forty,
Kirk d Cousins thirty seven, Matthew Stafford thirty seven, Russell
Wilson Junior the third thirty six, Gino thirty four, Dak
Prescott thirty two, Baker Mayfield thirty, Jared Goff thirty. You
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can have any of those quarterbacks, but you got to
take him for this year and next year. I think
it comes down to maybe two quarterbacks here, and that's
the guys who were thirty Baker Mayfield and Jared Goff.
Dak Prescott at thirty two. Gino thirty four. Now I
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don't it's Baker Mayfield or Jared Goff. I don't think
there's anybody else to be in the mix. I mean maybe,
you know, if you like Dak Prescott just injury prone,
he's thirty two. Uh, Baker and Jared Goff, and I
think that would be it's only those two guys.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm I'm thinking Jared Goff there too, just
because he's made it to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, and there's such to me.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I put a lot of value in that, and he
knows what it takes to get there that.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Anybody have anybody else on that list?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Yes, Paul, I think if my talent was the same
on my team, which is the question, I would go
Baker just to touch clutchness over Jared Goff.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, it's only those two because none of those other
quarterbacks do I want for two years?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yes, Marvin, I'm going Baker.
Speaker 15 (28:41):
Maybe recency biased, but I think he's just been playing
a lot better lately.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I'm Baker.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
All right, Let's see Joe and Colorado Springs.
Speaker 20 (28:52):
Hi Joe, Hey, Dan, thanks for having me on again.
I was the one that called in on Friday, made
the bed with two to the pilot, so I just
wanted to say good on him for taking that pie.
I was ready to hold up my end. My wife's
a Broncos fan, so she was more than willing to
administer the pie. Had the coast loss. Thankfully they didn't,
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So good on you, Fritzy Dan love the show, Go Colts.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
All right, thank you, Joe. Yeah, I saw that the
back room guys. Dylan went out and did some shopping
during the show. I look in the bag and it's
like five containers of whipped cream, and there's pie filling
and there's crust in there. Seems like a little excessive,
but there it is. If you're watching on Peacock the
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the bag is there with all lovely. Yeah, they're gonna
whip up the pie. Who do you want to hit
you in the face with the pie?
Speaker 14 (29:46):
I'm gonna go Dylan.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Actually, oh you want Dylan trick?
Speaker 14 (29:49):
You know what I Bill Parcells about it. If you
want to make the groceries and you got you could
pick out the.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Groceries, Okay, well then Dylan will hit you. I don't
know if are you quo him? Exactly?
Speaker 14 (30:01):
Definitely not.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Something about picking out the groceries.
Speaker 13 (30:04):
Yeah, like, if I gotta if I got to play
the guys that you know that you're giving me, let me,
you know, have some say in picking them out.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Now, let's go get them guys.
Speaker 11 (30:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (30:12):
If I'm gonna cook the meal, let me pick up
the groceries. Said something.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Andrew in Texas. Hi, Andrew, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (30:20):
Vp ay?
Speaker 18 (30:21):
Thank you for having me on a long time listener,
first time caller. I just wanted to say I agree
with you on the Tom Brady situation.
Speaker 10 (30:31):
Uh.
Speaker 18 (30:31):
And I don't fault any team for wanting to limit
him or exclude him from those meetings. And but also
on the other side of it, didn't look like it
helped the whole lot because the quarterback situation on the
Raiders are pretty weak, all right now, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
But that's not the point. The point is that does
Tom have access? Will he have access? And how does
he use that access? But yeah, you're right, last night
Tom helping Chip Kelly call all plays for Gino Smith
didn't go well. Uh. Let's see Dane in Texas. Hi, Dane,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 14 (31:08):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (31:08):
Uh, good morning Dan?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
How are you great?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Great?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Ding?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Great day?
Speaker 10 (31:13):
Well? First, I first I like to say Police said
tembre to all your fans in Mexico, and I like
to thank you for that interview with Gary Myers. I
can't wait to get my hands on that book. The
first you had a caller that was talking about greatest
resurgence and he cited Baker Mayfield. I think I got one,
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and I think he'll agree. I think it was Jim Plunkett.
I mean, I remember he had a Rookie of the
Year for the Boston Patriots, and then he went downhill.
There was injuries. He traded him the San Francisco and
he comes back and gets two Super Bowl Super Bowl
the Raiders. Yeah, that's great, great call, Dan he I remember.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I think his receiver was Randy Vataha, who played with
Plunkett at Stanford. So Jim Jim went to a bad
team and was Randy Vataha either eighteen or eighty one
with the Patriots? Was he number eighty one? Does that
sound right? Randy Vataha?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
He's got Randy Vataha number twenty four?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
No, I gotta check that, Okay, I don't he was
a wide receiver. I don't think they would have given
him twenty four.
Speaker 13 (32:33):
Yes, Hunt, I see a Jersey on eBay from the
seventies that has a Vataha eighteen on it.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Okay, all right, glop bloop, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 15 (32:40):
As far as the greatest career resurgences, where do we
rank Kurt Warner after the Giants?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Well, I got him into the Hall of Fame, so
I would look at his resurgence as more impactful than
Jim Plunkett. I mean, Jim was forgotten. It's a different era.
If you're winning two Super Bowls now with a team,
you know, then we might be talking about him being
a Hall of Famer because he's got two super Bowls.
But Jim was a Heisman Trophy winner and then he
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went to the Patriots and they weren't good and got
kicked to the curb and then ended up winning two
Super Bowls. All right, last call for phone calls? What
we learned? What's in store tomorrow? By the way, Wilfred
Brimley was forty nine in the Natural, Robert Redford was
forty seven, And if you see them next to each other,
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you're like, Robert Redford and his grandfather are there in
the dugout with the naturals. Wow, Wow, we're.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
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What we learned this day in sports history? All of
that coming up. Final results of the poll question as well.
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My thanks Gary Myers.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
The book is Brady Versus Belichick and it's available today.
And Dean Blandino, Fox Rules analyst who joined us earlier
in the hour, All right, see final results of the
poll question.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Please.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yeah, we got a couple of them up there, and
they're sort of all runaways. Actually, who looks more Super
Bowl as Chargers by a long shot two and AFC
team that won't make the playoffs. Bengals are running away
with that one called second Bills and Chargers have almost
no votes in that.
Speaker 18 (34:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
The Keenan Allen's career is fascinating to me because he's
one of those guys if he stays healthy, if he
had stayed healthy, had five catches sixty one yards in
a touchdown last night. He's second all time among Chargers
receivers in both receptions and receiving yards, so he has
over nine hundred catches over ten thousand yards receiving. He
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also has sixty one touchdowns that ranks him behind Antonio
Gates and Lance Alworth.
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Speaker 5 (35:26):
Yes, Paul keenan Allen, like you said, approaching one thousand catches,
six Pro bowls more likely to be Hall a very
good first ballot. Yeah, or get a Hall passed for
the injuries and sneak into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
No, No, which one is it in? Isaac Bruce or
Tory Holt.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Tory Holt is not in.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yes, tory Holt's got to get in. But the problem
is with what I just did. Is it Isaac Bruce
or Tory Holt? And then you got overshadowed with Kurt
Warner and Marshall Folk. Marshall, that's Marshall Folk. Yeah, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Tory hul had seven Pro bowls in eleven years and
nine hundred and twenty catches back when that meant a
lot more.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, how about this day in sports history, Paul.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Yeah, just a couple for you.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
I have Jim Bottomley nineteen twenty four knocked in twelve
runs in a single game. And then Uh, nineteen eighty
and eight, Tom Browning pitched the twelfth perfect game in
Major League Baseball history for the Reds.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Dave Linfield got his three thousandth hit in nineteen ninety three.
Paul Mollitor on this date got his three thousandth career hit.
His was a triple and Oh, nineteen eighty nine Number
one Notre Dame beat number two Michigan thanks to two
kickoff returns by Rocket Ishmael eighty eight and ninety two yards. Uh,
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Robin Boca, Hi, Rob, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (36:53):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
How you doing good?
Speaker 10 (36:56):
Going back to the Natural?
Speaker 22 (36:58):
That movie gets an extra star are because uh Kim
Bassinger was at the height of her powers? And uh
little trivia question about the movie. A member of Roy
Hobbs's New York Knights. A member of that team was
actually a Rookie of the Year in Major League Baseball?
Speaker 10 (37:17):
Who was it?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Joe Charboneau the Indians correct?
Speaker 22 (37:22):
Who might have been best known for being able to
open the beer bottles with his pocket.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, yes, thank you, Ron heard of him. Joe Charboneau,
great name. Uh Tony in California? High tone? What's on
your mind today?
Speaker 16 (37:42):
Hey?
Speaker 22 (37:42):
Dan?
Speaker 16 (37:42):
Good morning?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
How are you doing? Good morning?
Speaker 10 (37:45):
Good good?
Speaker 16 (37:46):
Hey?
Speaker 23 (37:46):
That quick question about you know, the leverage call and whatnot.
How you you know you can't really you know, push
off or anything, but somehow the tush push is allowed,
which is essentially, you know, pushing assisting someone. I mean,
to me, it doesn't seem like there's any difference. I mean,
what's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, I didn't really fully understand the leverage call, but
you can't be assisted by one of your teammates if
you're going to go up the middle and try to
block the kick. But I think that's more of elevation
than it is just moving straight ahead. The tush pushes
to move straight ahead. Leverage is you're trying to get
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leverage to move into the center and go up and
try to block the field goal. At least that's what
I've been led to believe.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
Yeah, you're right on that leverage call.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
You also can't use the opposition like the offensive guard
use him to push up.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Eric and Tucson. Hi, Eric, what's on your mind?
Speaker 16 (38:43):
Good morning Dan. Hey, I'll make it quicks. I know
you're at the end. Two quick things. I'm wondering if
you saw the diego to Via bet over the weekend,
since you give a Diego to Villa award on your
gambling podcast.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
About letting somebody date his mom.
Speaker 16 (39:00):
Yes, I believe it is Coo Vaughn. I think he's
a podcasterist median. I'm not quite sure the nexus of
the bet, but I found that cross over pretty interesting.
And that's secondly, just real quick, as you're talking about it. Yesterday,
I believe they changed the rules on the kicking footballs
where they now allow the kickers to keep the ball
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throughout the season versus just giving them two them ninety
minutes before game time. So as those faults get broken in,
I think they're going to see longer and longer kicks
because they, you know, just like the quarterbacks, they find
their favorite balls and they're able to use them.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
All right, Thank you, Eric, I have no problem with that.
It's your football that you're kicking, it's your football that
you're throwing. It's your team that has to catch the ball.
I don't have any problem with it. It was just
Tom light about the flat gate and that's what got
him in trouble. I think if he was maybe forthcoming,
then you know, the penalty would not have been nearly
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what it was, and that was pretty harsh pen Let's
go around the room. What we learn on the program, Todd,
what you learn today?
Speaker 13 (40:03):
Fox's Dean Blendinos all for viewers being able to hear
replay discussions, but while can eliminate conspiracy theories, it might
also advertise officials incompetence.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I know I would love to hear that seat O'Connor.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
League is gonna have to figure out what to do
with Tommy.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Hashtag Tommy uh Marvin is a combine for the rest.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
I did not know that Paul Baker Mayfield is thirty?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Todd, wit did I learn?
Speaker 13 (40:27):
We all learned that you would like to see Jail
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