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September 22, 2025 41 mins

Dan and the Danettes discuss the big wins by some formerly winless teams during Week 3 of the NFL. They discuss Texas QB Arch Manning flexing while beating perennial doormat, Sam Houston State. And NFL insider Mike Florio stops by with a breakdown.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Ravens as both teams come in one in one poll question,
let's wrap up the first hour of their seating and

(00:35):
turner attention to hour two.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Yeah, we got up there. The game that's going to
come back to haunt you in the NFL. Okay, your
four options on that are Falcons, Panthers, Broncos, Chargers, Packers,
Browns or Rams Eagles. Right now, Packers Browns have about
forty one percent of that vote, which is interesting too
because that might end up costing the Browns the for

(00:59):
number one overall pick.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I don't know there's some competition there for worst team
in football? Yeah, you know, I mean the Saints are there,
Titans are there, Brown's are there, Pauli.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
The current draft order is.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
I'm so glad you asked. I went to tankathon dot com.
There's a lot of teams in the mix, a bunch
of oher and three teams. So based off strength of schedule,
the draft today would be Jets, Saints, Titans, Dolphins, Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Speaking of the Giants, when do you ease Jackson Dart
into the starting lineup?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Can you ease him in?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
You host the Chargers coming up, and then you go
to New Orleans, then you have the Eagles, and then
you're at Denver. So there's no easing in unless you
ease him in at New Orleans. If that's going to
be the case, and it probably will be because Russ
had some throws last night where things that make you
go hmmm. The Bengals situation, the Bengals make a move

(02:01):
for Kirk Cousins after what we've seen from Jake Browning
the last two weeks. They've got Denver, they've got Detroit,
they've got the Packers, They've got the Steelers. So these
are four teams that they're probably not going maybe they
win one of those games, But do you make a
move for Kirk Cousins Because Jake Glazer, I think had

(02:22):
an update on Joe Burrow that best case scenario, he
would be back by the end of the regular season,
best case, but I think you probably have to look
at the playoffs and they're not going to be in
the playoffs. So that's why if this is just a
lost season, if Jake Browning continues to throw it to
the opposition like he did yesterday with Minnesota. Now, I'm

(02:45):
not surprised Minnesota's defense teed off on him because that's
what Minnesota and Brian Flores they are known to do,
and they certainly took it. You know, they didn't have
to lean on Carson Wentz for anything, just like go
out there and play the position.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Don't do anything stupid.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
But but Jake Browning, they went after him and made
him pay. All right, pull question for hour two seedon.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
What's it going to be?

Speaker 4 (03:08):
I think right now we're looking at win of the weekend.
You're Indiana Hoosiers, Chargers, Bears, Panthers, others neither neither.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well are we looking at the Browns? Is a great win?

Speaker 6 (03:23):
I mean they're not included in it.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Are they happy they won that game?

Speaker 6 (03:29):
In some respects?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yes, But you know the overall front office game plan.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Do they want to win those games? Marvin?

Speaker 7 (03:43):
The players are happy, oh yeah, yeah yeah, the front
office is furious.

Speaker 8 (03:47):
We're supposed to get Arch and Nick Saban Arch.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah and Nick Saban. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Arch had a really good game against sam Houston State. Yeah,
that'll quiet his critics. That's right, Yeah, that's right. He
scores a four yard touchdown run and you would have thought,
I mean, I've seen backup dancers with Jalo who have
less enthusiasm than he did.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
He was he was going crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
And I'm thinking, you just scored on Sam Houston State,
not Ohio State. And it's staring down the defensive back
and running along the sidelines. I think after the game
he did say his mom was going to be upset
with him. Now, I don't know how that's not taunting.
They called it swag. I go, that's not swag. That's taunting.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
See, well it's that taunting when your last name is
Manning and you play for Texas. For sure, those are
two a little just wink at that. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
You know what, don't you do? Horns down?

Speaker 4 (04:48):
That's fifteen uhy?

Speaker 6 (04:51):
I hate that.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
I feel like though if there was a fella who
kind of needed a moment this, maybe let some stress out.
Maybe it was arch Manning in that in that instant,
I understand it, but it's still Sam Houston.

Speaker 9 (05:05):
It is.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
It's lame.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
I get it, but he has been under fire a
little bit, and I bet that felt pretty good.

Speaker 7 (05:13):
Yes, Marvin, just to repeat with seat and said, man,
you run somebody over and it doesn't matter who it is.
You get in the end zone. You're pumped up, no
matter who you're playing against. You're not looking at the
uniform you're looking at you got into the end zone. Hey,
big run. I don't agree with it. They called it swag.
I was like, that's not that's not gold hunting. Yes, ton, because.

Speaker 10 (05:35):
That's how you gonna take that critics. Look what I
did dot dot dot against sam Houston State. You have
to got to put in the end of that sense.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yes, Paulie, the entire state of sam Houston is upset.
I'm sure, damn it.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
Uh Texas next week at Florida, then they host Oklahoma
h October eleventh.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Okay, still time to right the ship. Okay, Okay, So
we got football coming up tonight. We talked about the Eagles,
the Rams. That felt like that was one and a
half Losses Chargers over the Broncos, quietly winning three consecutive
divisional games. The Packers, you know, that's one of those
where you keep a team in it and then you
pay the price. That's all that was. You got to

(06:15):
put them away and a bad throw by Jordan Love
and then you know, the Browns were like, all right,
if you're not gonna win it, then we'll win it.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Here we go. Bucks over the Jets.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Even so, Paulie sends a text, so they block a kick,
they scored touchdown, and all of a sudden, the Jets
are going to win this game. And then Paulie goes,
you know, I love Baker in the Bucks, but I'm
rooting for the Jets. And then I knew as soon
as he sent it that they were going to lose.
It's like, I just Baker's gonna go down the field,
They're gonna kick it, and then they're gonna win the game.

(06:48):
Exactly what happened the Titans. That is not a pretty picture. Now,
I didn't know what to expect from them, but I
expect a little more than that. The Falcons as well,
that was shocking that you lose, and you lose thirty
to nothing to the Panthers.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
It's almost impossible to get shut out. I mean it's
field goals are so easy. But I'm thinking you didn't score, yes, Marvin.

Speaker 7 (07:18):
Especially with that team. They're not like the Titans. The
Titans are bad and born. I got Bijeon, Kyle Pitts,
Drake London. I can't get close to kick.

Speaker 10 (07:27):
A field goal, yes, Ud and the Falcons were one
of those teams that people were kind of falling in
love with in the preseason, like Denver, Atlanta Tos.

Speaker 8 (07:34):
Certain teams are like watch out for these guys. This year, I.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Watch a lot of the Bears and the Cowboys, and
I kept thinking, Okay, this guy got sacked sixty eight
times last year and they're not even putting a hand
on him. They didn't sack Caleb Williams once, and then
you pay those defensive backs Bland and Digs and every
time Caleb wanted to throw deep, they were able to

(07:58):
throw deep. They hit him once, but they didn't have
any sacks. And I mean, I expect the Bears to
be aggressive on offense, good on offense. I didn't think
that their defense would be that bad because Dallas did. Dallas,
you know, was able to do what they wanted to do.
Dak just had a couple of interceptions there. But I

(08:18):
still came away from that game going I have no idea.
I have no idea if the Bears are a six
win team or a nine win team. Same with Dallas,
I have no idea when you're watching them, and they
could have used a pass rusher in that game.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yes, it does.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Feel like Dallas has to score thirty five a game
to be in any game and can't afford even you know,
running ceedee Lamb. It's a dangerous play as but you
lose him in the first first quarter, it's really over
because you need a shootout.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
A couple of phone calls in here, Best and Words
to the weekend. Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk has
a new book out. His latest novel, Big Sheield. It's
a tale of gambling, the mob, and a pro football
league that Mike says is definitely definitely not the NFL
unless you want it to be. We'll have Mike joining

(09:11):
us coming up. Dan and Ohio leads us off second hour,
Best and Worst of the Weekend.

Speaker 11 (09:17):
Dan Hey just here to represent Qualcom.

Speaker 12 (09:22):
I'm kidding.

Speaker 11 (09:23):
Two best of the weekend. Just got my five month
chip for sobriety, inspired partly by Seaton. And the second
best was the first hour window or the one o'clock
window of the games. That was just phenomenal. Worst of
the weekend, well at least my Steelers one, but it

(09:44):
took five turnovers to get that done.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
Man.

Speaker 11 (09:47):
Also, those Browns uniforms were just correndous.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I agree because I love the original Cleveland Browns uniforms.
They don't have to do anything different fancy. But Seaton
was an outlier. He's he was all in on the
Brown's uniforms there.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
Yeah, I think they look good.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, I like them.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I thought I was watching the Falcons when I first
looked at them, and they're kind of and they looked dark,
they almost look black. And then you had the orange
uniform jerseys.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yes, seton that is one of those is it is
it dark brown or is it black kind of things?

Speaker 6 (10:22):
To me, it looks it looks brown. Muh, And I
like that.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
But they have great uniforms they don't need. Cleveland Brown's
uniform is sort of like Penn State. You know, some
of these other places where you don't have to do anything,
you don't have to change anything.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
There.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Tampa couldn't lose yesterday with those uniforms like they you
look too good, you can't lose.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I would wear that to the met ball and the
gala like that.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I would if I was Baker Mayfield and they were
gonna invite me, I'd just wear my uniform and just say, yeah,
how about this?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Who were you wearing?

Speaker 8 (10:58):
Creamsicle?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah? Gus in La, Hi, Gus, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 13 (11:05):
Good morning, mister Patricks. Hope you and the boys had
a great weekend. Hey man, what a weekend for sports.
I'm telling that. I mean, like just like you know,
my previous guy just said that one o'clock window was phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Great, loved it my.

Speaker 13 (11:20):
Steelers, hey man, wins to winning. The offense forgot to
get on the bus. The defense brought the game. Hey,
I'll take a win to win. At least. I'm out
a ram Center Pakistan today, so I could go with
the best of the weekend be in the NFL and
my Trojan's winning. But let's go back to Friday night.
Clayton Edward kershot with the curtain call you know, I

(11:44):
find it me personally to be very privileged whenever you're
able to be in the window of a generational talent,
to see the beginning, the inception of it, and all
the way to the end. And that's what I've been
able to watch with Clayton Kersh all the entire time
and fraid to finally come to an end on Friday
night with something to be behold of. Loved it. It

(12:05):
was great. Not a dry eye in the house. Awesome.
I'm a lucky at Dodger fanis morning. You boys have a.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Great week, all right, Gus, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, I'm fortunate that having been in this business for
forty years that you see somebody starting their career and
that could be in college, and then I've been around
for all of these careers start to finish and very lucky.
And Clayton Kershaw go out with a strikeout regular season
at home. Then he brought his kids out. They dug

(12:37):
up the pitchers mound and took the rubber with them.
They had like an axe out there, pick axe out there,
hammered away and taking that out of there.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Let's see Keith and Chico, welcome back.

Speaker 14 (12:52):
Keith, Hey, good morning, guys, I got a couple of
bests of the weekend and the worst. The Indiana Hoosiers
football team putting up six on a ranked Illinois team
was pretty impressive, and the other being.

Speaker 15 (13:04):
Texas Tech football getting their win over Utah. Seeing the
Red Raiders being relevant again brings me back to the
Mike Leach days over at Texas Tech. Worst of the
weekend what happened to the Falcons and Michael Pennix? A
shutout against the Panthers is not a good look for them.

Speaker 14 (13:19):
Dan have a great day, guys.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, got benched. But I wonder if you're the Falcons,
you got to be all in with Michael Pennix. But
if the Bengals call, would you trade him? And it
probably all asked Mike Florio about that because there's you know,
there's money involved in that and who's going to pick
up what part of that salary? There?

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 16 (13:45):
Heydp, thanks for taking my call? Best of the two
best of the weekend. Best was going viral on the
DP Show Friday with my Name's Question? And another best
of the weekend. Since I had a grandfather who loved
what he hates. Anytime Clemson stumbles and looks like cheeks,
then yeah, that is something I'm all on board with.

(14:08):
And Lewis Ritick was talking about how Bill Belichick and
Dion you know, are both using the portal and it's
not working to their favor. But I would argue that
Clemson is where those two programs are trying to get
to and because of that, Clemson should be able to
use the portal to its advantage based off of their

(14:29):
national championship credit, pedigree and the resources that they have.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, I agree with you, Zach. You know this isn't
an overhaul with Clemson. Clemson should be able to pick
and choose. Now, maybe you get seven to ten players,
but make sure you don't miss on those guys. North
Carolina they got seventy players. Dion had a similar turnover there.
That's really hard to say. All right, now, let's get

(14:54):
together limited practice time and go out there and be
good right away. Clemson's in a different position. There are
certain teams Alabama, you know, it's just different. You pick
and choose who you want they want to come play
for you. You have to decide if you want them
to play for you, this isn't an overhaul, but this

(15:14):
is making sure. But Lewis Ridick, who did the game,
said this was really about the team not being prepared
to play like that's on the coach. Syracuse was ready
to play Clemson. According to Lewis Ritick, who was there
on the call. He said, they just didn't seem like
they were ready to play. And this following a press

(15:35):
conference where you had Dabosweeney calling out the media for,
you know, questioning his resume. I thought that they were
going to come out and it was going to be
one of those, you know, fifty to seventeen type games,
and it didn't go well, didn't go as scripted. Even
North Carolina I'm watching that. Ah man, it's not a

(15:59):
good situation. Who's North Carolina got next? They got Florida
State next.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
They got a tough.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Game I think coming up next? Oh, Clemson. Doesn't North
Carolina play Clemson?

Speaker 3 (16:14):
I think that's do we have that? Yeah? Two weeks?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
All two weeks? Oh great, so you get to simmer
with embarrassment. Are both teams off for two weeks?

Speaker 9 (16:30):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Oh my gosh. Well, Belichick's girlfriend look great with her
knee high boots on on the sidelines there in a
mini skirt. In a million years, if you say, hey, Belichick,
he's gonna be on the sidelines and his girlfriend's going
to be there in a miniskirt and knee high boots.
I go, uh and what alternate universe? Yes, Todd, it's

(16:53):
in Chapel Hill at.

Speaker 10 (16:54):
Least October fourth, So maybe a little home field advantage
or does that never really exist?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
But that could be even worse if you get, you know,
rough up at home. All right, let me take a break.
Mike Florio, the popular co host of Pro Football Talk.
You can find that program on Peacock that preceeds hours.
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(17:20):
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Speaker 2 (18:34):
We'll get some more phone calls Coming up, Steve Young
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DP show Best and Worst of the weekend Mike Florio
Pro Football Talk Live co host, and you'll find him
on Football Night in America. His latest novel once again.
It's a novel called Big Shield. It's a tale of gambling,
the mob, and pro football league that is definitely not

(18:55):
the NFL. The e book is available on Amazon for
only ninety nine cents. Have you heard from the NFL
at all about this book that's not supposed to be
based on the NFL?

Speaker 18 (19:06):
Not yet?

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Okay, not yet?

Speaker 18 (19:08):
And I think their approach will be just ignore it
and hope it goes away, and let's not make this
into a thing. As you were doing the read though,
it struck me because we don't have an audio book yet,
and I think that people would expect me to do
it despite the very annoying voice that I possessed. Would
you like it? Could we work something out? Would you
like to do the audio book?

Speaker 3 (19:27):
I think that would How many pages?

Speaker 18 (19:30):
It's four hundred people? No, no, no, how about are
you going to do a chapter?

Speaker 3 (19:34):
How about I do a chapter?

Speaker 18 (19:35):
We do a chapter, and we make that the sample
and then we do the bait and switch, so they
think it's your voice and then when they get it,
they're like, oh, no, it's him.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I've done it before, and it's a lot of work.
I had to do it in segments where I'd come
in for a day and do three hours, and then
wait five days and come in and do it, you know,
because it really it's tough on your voice to be
able to do that.

Speaker 18 (20:00):
My agent's been negotiating deals for me to do the
audio version of my three prior novels, and this went in.
In theory it sounds good, but no, yeah, in practice,
it's probably going to be an all day thing, frustrating, annoying.
You got to get it just right. Oh I got
a word wrong. I go back and do that again.
So yeah, Fritzie, Well, the offers open if you want

(20:20):
to do it.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, Fritzie just said that he volunteered. Okay, yet he'd
be happy to do that when.

Speaker 8 (20:24):
We come back. Chapter three.

Speaker 18 (20:26):
This is the.

Speaker 8 (20:27):
Sealed on Amazon.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I little Kevin Harland there, all right. You wouldn't be
able to keep up that energy.

Speaker 8 (20:34):
Definitely not.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
No, okay, you talk about gambling and I'm watching the
Eagles Rams game.

Speaker 18 (20:41):
I know exactly where you're going, Jordan Davis. And here's
the reality. This is the direct result of the NFL
going from hating and shunning anything to do with gambling
to jumping right in bed and loading the pockets. They're
the guy in the you know the old game show
where you go into the booth where the money's flying everywhere.

(21:02):
They're just grabbing as many dollars as they can while
it's there. But yeah, we're all aware now of the
points spread, We're all aware of the ramifications and how
many millions of dollars changed hands because Jordan Davis decided
to do not the smart thing. The smart thing. The
game's over, just fall down. You got to win because

(21:22):
in theory, somebody comes up from behind. Does the don
beebe to leon, Let the ball goes out, the rams
take the other way. The smart thing to do is
go down. He runs it in for a touchdown, the
Eagles cover. Oh, and it was perfectly legitimate. But when
you open Pandora's box, this is the kind of stuff
that flies out and people are aware of this. So
it's just part of the stuff the NFL needs to

(21:43):
be concerned about. And sometimes I wonder Dan, Are they
as concerned as they should be?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
What change though with Roger Goodell? Because everybody was against
gambling and then all of a sudden something changed.

Speaker 18 (21:54):
Well, they were holding the rope as tightly as they
could against gambling when difference states were trying to challenge
the federal law from nineteen ninety two that basically said
no states other than the states that currently have it
Nevada can have sports wagering, and that became different levels

(22:14):
and types of legal challenges until New Jersey finally won.
But back in the days when the NFL was actively
fighting it, that's when the commissioner would say, for example,
when I'm paraphrasing, but if legalized gambling is widespread, normal
incidents of the game will be suspected to have been
influenced by other things, like, you know, whether it's a

(22:38):
bad call or a guy not going down, when basic
football expectations would be you've won the game, go down.
But the normal incidents of the game become fodder for
the fixes in and once they recognized, I believe how
much money could be made. And the one thing that
never gets talked about is the fact that owners are
allowed to separately own up to five percent of a

(23:00):
company that operates a sports book. And they won't tell
you who owns what, but they're allowed to be the
house too. They don't just have the sponsorships with all
the major sports books. The owners individually can own up
to five percent of companies that operate sports books. That's
where the money is. So it's always followed the money.
And I'm not I'm a capitalist. I'm not saying it's wrong,
but that's what happened. They realized, you know what, we've

(23:20):
hated this, we fought against it. If it's going to
be inevitable, let's turn it into a revenue stream. And
they've turned it into a massive revenue stream.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
I hear and I read conflicting reports on the Toushbush.
Is it going to survive? Like it'll survive this season,
but then next season? And I thought when Dean Blandino
live during a broadcast said I give up. I don't
know how to officiate this play, and I thought, that's
the out for the NFL because the safety numbers aren't there.

(23:52):
This is about we can't call this. I don't know
how you can't call somebody when the guards move on
the Eagles offensive line that's easy to call, spotting the
football is still a challenge on that play.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Is it back next year?

Speaker 18 (24:08):
I think right now the wind is blowing in the
direction that it won't be and the moment, I believe
based on everything I've seen, everything I've heard, and just
my own kind of like what's really going on here
in the NFC Championship when Frankie Louvou of the Commanders
repeatedly jumped offside to the point where the referee threatened
the Eagles with what would are the Commanders? Excuse me?

(24:30):
With what would be called a palpably unfair act, and
we're just going to give the Eagles the touchdown. That's
never happened, for it's in the rule book, but it's
never happened. I think the commissioner watching that game, and
I'm assuming it was him, because he's got the power
to make these dominoes fall if he wants. I think
he saw that and he said, we can't have this.
We just can't have this. So it was that week
Mike Pereira was appearing somewhere and said that that moment

(24:55):
could be basically the death noell of the tush push.
It's like, wait, a minute, Wait a minute, the effort
to stop it, because the to stop it goes to
those extremes. They're just going to get rid of the play.
But then we saw what happened, and it's been one
straw man after another. Oh, it's a safety risk. The
data doesn't back it up. Well, it doesn't look like football.
Well what the hell does that mean? And now Dan,
I think you've hit on it. It's going to be

(25:16):
we just can't officiate it. We just can't officiate it.
And I was told yesterday, Look, it's an extremely difficult
played to officiate. And this is what the membership voted for.
And I think that's the attitude of the league office.
I think the league office generally like to get rid
of it. They were two votes short, sixty eight percent
of the team's voted to get rid of it, to
vote short to get the seventy five percent. And I

(25:38):
think once the season ends there's going to be some
arm twisting to get from twenty two to ten to
twenty four to eight and get rid of it.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
But the Eagles are still going to be successful.

Speaker 18 (25:47):
It's still going to run a quarterback sneak that you
can't stop. And the guards are still going to leave early.
But there's just something about that play being the symbol
and the thing. And you're right, it's not going to
change the effectiveness of having a quarterback who can squad
five hundred pounds.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
And I think that their success rate prior to this
rule or using the tush push was very similar to
what their success rate is with it. And it's because
you have a quarterback that is unlike any other quarterback.
In Jalen Hurts, we're talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football
Talk Live, co host contributor to Football Night in America.
The latest novel, Big Shield, once again gambling mob pro

(26:26):
Football and it's not about the NFL.

Speaker 18 (26:28):
Definitely not.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Ebook available Amazon for ninety nine cents.

Speaker 18 (26:32):
I'm trying to get you, get trying to get you
sued with me. How about that? Oh no, I'll represent
us all for free.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Really?

Speaker 18 (26:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, you against the NFL.

Speaker 18 (26:42):
Yeah, that'd be a book on its own. So, I mean,
I saw the Billy Joel documentary, which was just awesome.
And when the Catholic Church tried to push back against
only the good Die Young, the end result was him
sending a letter to the archdiocese saying Can you please
do that for all my songs?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
He got a whole lot of publicity there. I'm trying
to figure out if three weeks is long enough three
games to figure out a team, figure out who these
teams are? Is there how many teams do you not
have a handle on.

Speaker 18 (27:15):
I think it's difficult to figure out all of them
because the one thing that we know will happen, there
will be injuries. And how do you deal with the injury.
Is the next man up going to be good enough
to keep things rolling? Can you weather the storm until
the key player comes back? And we know that happens
every year. But I think we kind of have an idea.
We've already had an idea. The eight teams that legitimately

(27:36):
have a chance. Do they fall off due to injury?
The Bengals have I don't know that they were in
the eight, maybe they were in the ten or the twelve.
But we know the good teams, we know the bad teams.
It's in between. Is there a team that is just
going to catch lightning in a bottle? Is something going
to happen? Are they going to get better on the fly?
Teams always change from week one to week eighteen it's

(27:57):
such a long season. They're gonna get better, they're gonna
get worse, and it could be that one of these
teams in the middle of the pack. And I think
back to the Patriots the year they won their first
Super Bowl. They were like five and five, ten games in.
It can break one way or the other. We see
that happen. But right now we know the best, we
know the worst, and then there's this cluster of we
don't know and we'll find out.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
I thought about this yesterday watching games and what's going
on with the Clippers with Kawhi Leonard and Steve Balmer.
What would prevent owners from doing side deals and circumventing
the salary cap in any sport.

Speaker 18 (28:33):
I think if you're smart, you can get away with it.
You can always get away with finding a way to
funnel money to somebody. After Pablo Toure reported on what
was going on with the Clippers, allegedly someone reach asked me.
He said, you know what, there was a team twenty
years ago that had a separate in house video production
company and they would use that to pay players who

(28:56):
weren't on the team to keep them from going to
play for other teams and it was a great little
way to have a side roster that you's stashed and
everybody was properly compensated, so they weren't looking for other jobs.
But you had these extra guys and how many it was,
But that's what they did, and the sense I got
is that they weren't the only team. Now I don't

(29:17):
believe that's currently happening still, but how hard would it wait?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Why wouldn't you think that would be happening in any
sport if you're.

Speaker 18 (29:25):
Smart and if you're discreet, and if you can trust
the people that you're giving the money to. I think
that's the key, though, because it's one thing for a
guy to keep his mouth shut while he's being paid
by you. But I'd think if this was something widespread
over the past thirty years of the salary cap, if
there was something like that, I'd like to think someone
would have spilled the beans.

Speaker 8 (29:44):
By now.

Speaker 18 (29:45):
Somebody would be pissed off about how it all ended.
I didn't get that last check, or you owe me
a little bit more, or you know, guy just is
out one night and he has a couple of pops
and he decides to say something to a reporter. I'm
surprised we haven't heard more about it because I think
it's NICI to assume. And Pablo had a great take
last week about Steve Balmer. You know, these really rich

(30:05):
guys can buy anything and everything they want except that championship,
and it's got to drive them crazy. So what do
they have? They have money. Let's find a way to
throw more of the money at this thing that we
can't buy.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Tom Brady did the Bears game yesterday with the Cowboys,
and then his Raiders are going to be playing the
Bears coming up. The conflict of interest is sort of
lingering there and probably going to heat up a little
bit more next week. How do you see this end
or does it end in a different way it was.

Speaker 18 (30:38):
It was hiding in plain sight for all of us
to see for over a year. But it just shows
you the power of actually seeing something because the moment
we saw the incredible shrinking Tom Brady because as soon
as he realized he was on screen, he hit that
button and down that seat went because he knew he
knew this isn't going to end well. Because that woke

(30:58):
everyone up to what we already should have known existed.
You can't reconcile his two jobs. I think what's gonna
happen because the NFL doesn't want to admit we never
should have allowed him to pick both lanes. We should
have told him when we did the vote last October
on allowing him into the club, you got to pick
one or the other. You can't do both. I think
what will happen. It'll be like the Tush push. If

(31:18):
the Raiders ever become really, really good, that's when there's
gonna be this ground swell. This can't continue. Tom Brady
can't continue to be at these games and gather this information.
Dan the one point that gets lost in all this,
because there's been a lot of talk about, well, how
much do you really get from a production meeting? The
real value is being on the field before the game,

(31:39):
when you can hobknob, when people are gonna come, they
want to talk to you, They're gonna come tell you
things they shouldn't tell you. You can see what a
player looks like. He looks different on TV than he
looks on the field. And so it's not just getting
ready to face the Bears. It's which free agents from
this team, what I maybe like to sign, Which assistant

(32:00):
coaches are the ones who are really really the ones.
You know, the media has an idea of who the
ones who are up and coming should be, But I'm
in a position to find out who's really making this
team go. He's in an incredible situation that no other
owner is in to gather information that can be used.
And Antonio Pierce, the former coach of the Raiders, he
said it all last week. He told Adam Shine, I

(32:21):
know that it's useful because he gave me that information
last year.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
How does Kirk Cousins get traded, Well.

Speaker 18 (32:29):
There's going to have to be a serious season ending
injury for a team that doesn't want to go next
man up, and the Bengals for now are next man up.
And look, the Bengals aren't going to want to give
up draft picks because those are cheap young players. They're
not going to want to pay Kirk Cousins. And the
Falcons are going to want whoever takes on Kirk Cousins
to pick up a major chunk of his twenty seven
and a half million dollar guaranteed salary this year. But

(32:50):
it's going to have to line up just right, and
I don't know that it will. I think the one
place could be Minnesota because that's the easiest place to
pop him back in if, for example, JJ McCarthy back
and gets injured again and it's a longer term injury
and they feel like they can salvage the season and
they don't want to ride with Carson Wentz, who who
looked okay yesterday. He wasn't horrible. He didn't throw a

(33:11):
left handed interception in his own end zone. So that's progress.
So it's gonna be something where it's gotta fall just right.
And it could be that the Falcons decide at some
point this year that we're not going to trade him
because we're gonna put Michael Pennix on the bench like
the Panthers did last year with Bryce Young and let
him take a step back and regroup because yesterday was

(33:32):
rough for Penis and the Falcons.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Your favorite part of the book is what well.

Speaker 18 (33:39):
The book is told from the perspective of the three
main characters, and the first draft of the book it
unfolded in a somewhat different way with a different main character.
I decided it's a long story, so keep it simple.
That part got carved out and I put a new
part in with a new main character who's like the
mob figure, who's the guy who gathers the professional athletes,

(34:02):
because it's not just a professional football player in the
league that isn't the NFL. It's a professional basketball player
in the league that isn't the NBA, and a professional
baseball player in the league that isn't the MLB. But
he's the he's the guy that makes this thing go.
And he was the most fun to write, the most
fun to revise and edit, because when you get a
book that you got to read it twenty times, it's like,
I really don't want to read this again, But every

(34:23):
time I'd read Johnny Motts is the name of the character.
Any Johnny Mott's chapter was just fun because he's he's
he's malicious, but he's stupid, but he's smart, and he's
also got a conscience, and it's this complex character that
is just a lot of fun because he thinks like
a mobster, he talks like a mobster, and that's just
always fun to read and and just kind of envision

(34:45):
what that guy's like.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Did you ever have any dealings with the mob when
you were gambling?

Speaker 18 (34:50):
I never gambled. I never gambled. My dad was a
bookie though Okay, my dad was a bookie and he
was connected to the crew in the town where I
grew up in Wheeling, West Virginia, and the first two
novels I did are based on inspired by I don't
want to say based on I want to say inspired
by I don't think any of them are left but
just in case. But he was a bookie connected to
that crew, and so I knew a lot of the

(35:12):
people who when I grew up and was able to
like google names and see what they had done or
allegedly had done, it was like, oh, almost said a
word I shouldn't say, but it was like, man, like,
you know, those are some bad dudes. And my dad
was on the periphery of it because he was just basically,
he was a compulsive gambler who realized it's better to
be the house, so he became a bookie. But he

(35:33):
was just the gambling side of it. And I'm not
condoning it or excusing it. That was the way provided
for his family. I was a kid. There was nothing
I could do about it, and my mom did a
great job of keeping those worlds separate, but there was
enough overlap where Yeah, I picked up a lot how
they talk, how they act, just the vibe that they have.
That I was around a lot of guys like that,
and I was oblivious to the fact that, you know,

(35:56):
they they were capable of doing some pretty bad stuff.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
The book is called Big Shield.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
It's the tale of gambling the mob in a pro
football league that is not the NFL. Once again, it
is not. The book available on Amazon for only ninety
nine cents.

Speaker 18 (36:10):
Do you read books? No, you have all these books
and you don't read them. It's a library here, by
the way, I haven't been to this location. Congratulations, because
this is incredible. The last place was great, but this
is like the last place on steroids. I mean it's huge,
and it's open, and you got so much stuff and
it's all. You could wander around here for like three

(36:31):
hours and not see everything. It really is incredible.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Thank you, Mike. Great to see you. Great to see you,
Mike Floria.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
When we come back, we will give you our best
and worst of the weekend after this.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
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Speaker 2 (36:53):
Let's go around the horn and Todd I'll start with
you best and worst of the weekend.

Speaker 10 (36:57):
Best of the weekend in Houston on Saday, the Big
Dump Cowroly goes deep against the ms AL West rival Astros.
His fifty seventh of the year passes Ken Griffey Junior
for the most single season home runs ever by a
Seattle Mariner.

Speaker 8 (37:09):
Then he goes ahead and hits his fifty eighth yesterday.

Speaker 10 (37:11):
EMS lead the division now by three games, won fourteen
of the last fifteen games. Worst also on Saturday, not
taking anything away from QS, but Clemson losing at home
in Death Valley.

Speaker 8 (37:19):
They're one in three for the first time under Dabbo Seaton.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
I'm gonna go double best this weekend. My super bestess
of the weekend. Isaiah Rodgers an absolute defensive explosion for
the Vikings. He returned an interception for eighty seven yards
in a touchdown, then added another sixty six yard fumble
return for another and had and caused another two fumbles.
That's he's the first player I mean, it's a perfect

(37:46):
defensive performance. I think as you could get as a
fantasy player. I don't think you could be rated any higher.
He's the first player to ever do that in a
single game, of Vikings being the Bengals forty eight ten.
My other best of the weekend Syracuse on the road
taking down Clemson thirty five twenty one.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
Davian Kerr with the pick to seal the deal.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
I like that all of a sudden, Almost every week
now we're talking about Syracuse something happening with that team.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
It's kind of fun. See.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, they had to run their sprints after they beat you.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Kon Yeah, Marvin beston Worst to the weekend.

Speaker 7 (38:16):
Best of the weekend, also from the Vikings, Jordan Mason.
That guy always shows up when it's time to sixteen
carries one hundred and sixteen yards, two touchdowns. Worse of
the weekend the Tigers. I don't know what's going on
if they lost sixth straight, including Guineas sweat by the
Braves this past weekend.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Pauli bestin worst coming off the bench for Texas Tech
Will Hammond thirteen of sixteen, two touchdowns to spark their
offense in a thirty four to ten win over.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
The utah U.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
It's that's huge for Texas Tech and they're four to
zero and then even better, Fernando Mendoza, the quarterback of
Indiana twenty one of twenty three, two sixty seven and
five touchdowns. He really played perfect. And this guy, he's
gonna be scalding hot draft time.

Speaker 13 (38:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
I remember Kirk Kurbst preseason and Herbie pointed out how
good this kid was. And I saw him play and
he didn't have great numbers. And then the last couple
of games, I think he's had ten touchdowns, no interceptions.

Speaker 9 (39:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
Pauling, Yeah, he's a transfer from Cal. He was pretty
good last year, but he is lighting it up.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Didn't Cal just get shut out this last weekend? Adam
in Illinois, Hi, Adam, best and worst through the weekend.

Speaker 12 (39:27):
Hey, good morning, DP guys. I hope you had a
great weekend. Well, that's the work is the weekend is
obviously for me. The Rams choking in the fourth quarter.
How do you give up two blocks kicks? That's uncalled for.
It's crazy. I've never seen that before. And then best
of the weekend Clayton Gershaw going out in style in
LA getting the win with the Dodgers, and the Dodgers

(39:51):
now thirteen straight seasons in the postseason.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Are you guys, Adam, are you jogging?

Speaker 12 (39:56):
I'm actually walking?

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, I am, oh okay, yeah, all right, Well thank
you be careful. Sounded like he was on a treadmill.
Nathan and san Antonio. Hi, Nate, Hey Dan, thanks for
taking my call.

Speaker 9 (40:12):
My best and worst is in your Florio just kind
of touched on it the test push. My eyes have
been open. Then I previously believed if you can't stop it,
that's your problem. But after watching that play this weekend
where Hurtz had two or three efforts on getting that

(40:33):
first down before they finally whistled the play dead after
the defender had stripped the ball from him. Then they
decided the play was over. It had gotten the first down.
That's that of my eye. Then this play is impossible
to officiate, and yeah, they need to get rid of it.
If I'm done with it.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, you can't see the ball carrier. He just kind
of disappears, and then you're like, uh, I don't know.
I guess you've got first down. Not sure. I do
think that is the emphasis here to get rid of
the play is you can't officiate it. It would help
if they actually officiated the play and called when the

(41:12):
offensive line jumps.

Speaker 7 (41:14):
Yes, Marvin, if you're the NFL, are you hoping that
the Eagles don't win the Super Bowl? So you know what,
it won't look like we're out to get you guys.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yes, yes, because Dean Blandino said that he thinks that
the owners didn't want to take it away because then
it looked like sour graves.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
We couldn't stop you guys. You guys won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
More phone calls coming up on this Monday, best and
worst of the weekend. My thanks again to Mike Florio
for stopping by. Steve Young will join us in twenty
five minutes from now.
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