September 30, 2025 • 44 mins
DP and the Danettes recap the Monday Night Football doubleheader. NFL analyst Ross Tucker doubts the Bengals can contend with Jake Browning's struggles and criticizes AJ Brown's vague social media post. MLB Network analyst Harold Reynolds still sees the Dodgers as the favorite in the playoffs and considers the Mariners as the team to beat on the AL side of the bracket.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Bad football, bad uniforms, Dolphins hold off the Jets, big news.
Tyreek kill his season is done, dislocated, his knees, got
torn ligaments as well. Broncos embarrassed the Bengals twenty eight
to three. The Bengals. They had more penalties than first
downs last night. And I will say it once again,
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you don't want to waste a season, and that's what
you're going to do. You lose Joe Burrow, you can't
replace him, But can you get a reasonable fact simile?
Can you get somebody who is a starting quarterback? And
that is Kirk Cousins or Russell Wilson. If not, you've
already punted on the season. And you saw that last night.
That was not football. It felt like there was one
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NFL team on the field and then there was a
college football team. This was really it was ugly and
even Troy Aikman was voicing his displeasure with watching bad football.
The Jets are just dumb. You know, I'm watching the game.
You can't get to the line of scrimmage on time
falls starts. They could easily be two and two. They
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could be now they're zero and four. They don't feel
zero and four. And the Dolphins you get a win,
but you lose Tyreek Hill, and that's one of those
it's not just a season that you lose him. Now
you start to think about a bigger picture here for
Tyreek Hill, that kind of injury coming back from those injuries.
Even if he does this doesn't feel like it's a
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one year that he'll be out. So the Dolphins hold
off the Jets and they win it. Broncos get the win.
It's hard to assess the Broncos when you play in
a game like that because the Bengals are just bad.
It looked like they were disinterested. It's hard to you know,
you would think, you go, okay, it's Week four, like well, okay,
we'd be playing the NFL, we're in prime time. Let's
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go out there and ply. And it just felt like, yeah, okay,
we'll go through the motions here. And Jamar Chase is
not a happy camper. He confronted his head coach. But
then his head coach was like, That's why I love Jamar.
You know, he cares, he's fire, he's you know all
this stuff. I'm like, no, no, he's actually really really
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angry here. How are you going to solve that? And
Jake Browning was vanilla generic, but it's not all on him.
I mean that was you know, all three phases that
the Bengals just not a good football team. And you know,
when you start to think about the numbers here in
the previous nine years, the Bengals have had fewer than
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one hundred and seventy five yards of offense two times
in nine years. They've done so three times in the
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you do the honors? For a poll question for hour one?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
The Jets are better than their record or who we
thought they were?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I think they're both. I think they're better than their record,
but they're who I thought they'd be. Aaron Glenn, you know,
brings in culture. He's a former player and trying to
bring in that Dan Campbell culture. And it's going to
take a while, but you'd got to get rid of
the stupid penalties. You may not be as good as
the opposition, but don't beat yourself. And I think there
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were three penalties in a span of four plays. I go,
if you can't get out of the huddle and get
to the line of scrimmage on time, how about you
move your huddle two yards closer to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yeah, so your eight yards back?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Like what are you doing? And once again I'm a
Justin Field's apologist. I think he has talent. I think
he's been bounced around with coaches and coordinators. I think
he can be dangerous. I think he can be maybe
Lamar Jackson lte. You know, he can run the ball.
I think he's a decent passer. Maybe he with the
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right coaching, can become a good passer. They got one,
they got one receiver. They got Garrett Wilson. That's it now,
he's great. But other than that, I mean, Breece Hall
can run the football. Sauce Gardner thinks that he's being
singled out that he doesn't get the calls that he should.
But you know, the Jets should be a little more formidable,
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and they could have won that game last night. It's
not like the Dolph were dominating.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, Seaton, they so far the Jets. Week one they
lost thirty four to thirty two to Pittsburgh. The Week
two was thirty to ten Buffalo, all right, but then
twenty nine to twenty seven to Tampa, and now twenty
seven to twenty one to Miami. I mean those are
all very close games for the most part.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, yeah, Poly.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
You know what's gonna happen here. The Jets right now
have the second pick of the draft. They'll be a
top three draft pick. They'll draft a quarterback and start
this thing all over again. Because they have no money
really invested in fields, they can easily move on from them,
and theyil the cycle of the Jets going with a
young quarterback will start again next year.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What other pole questions do you have, Seaton.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Let's see, we've got a couple here from the t dub.
We have a couple of poll questions that are all
sort of in the similar vein. But it's not even October,
which NFL team has already mostly done. Bengals, Jets, Saints,
Titans might as well. This is a little bit of
a kick them while they're down pole question, because then
we also have from Paul which team feels like the
worst in the NFL so far? Bengals, Browns, Jets, Saints,
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Titans basically all the same group.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I would say the Titans, they just feel like they're
just lost. It's like, you know, maybe we'll regroup next year,
but they're going to be one of those teams that
has a couple of wins where you go, damn, okay,
where was this all year? It feels like like Carolina
was like that last year where it was like, man,
they're going toe to toe with the Chiefs. Where's that been?
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It's weird how it clicks sometimes and you don't know
when it. It's called being in the zone. Baseball players
talk about being in the zone. It's called getting blue
where you're hitting everything like everything's great, you can't or
you're you know, Steph Curry shooting and can't miss. It's
called being in the zone. And teams get in that
and then they don't know how they got in, and
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they don't know why they got out, but that's going
to happen. The Jets are probably going to have a
couple of those games where you go, where's this been?
Maybe the Bengals they put it together for a couple
of games and you go, okay, that's why they kept
Jake Browning and didn't trade for Russell Wilson Junior. The
third Yes, Marvin Well.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
In the Titans case, it's going to be a lot
of good losses like, oh, you know what, we played
the Colts really well, almost like the Panthers last year.
They played the Chiefs really well. They didn't win, but
you'll take it as a win if you're that bad.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, Saints are bad, but it doesn't they don't feelize
in an inept as the Titans. Do you know the
brown situation? Keep an eye on this because Dylan Gabriel
is going to get the start at some point really soon.
Now do you start him overseas in London against the
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Vikings defense? Now I would say no, but then it's
the Browns. Jackson Dard started at home against the Chargers.
That's different. But Dylan Gabriel, he's going to get the
start at some point here real soon. And then I
wonder is Joe Flacco going to stay on on the roster.
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It feels like he needs to be there. You have
to have a grown up in the room with the
young quarterbacks there. But he would be a guy that
I would look at maybe joining another team if you
could get Flacco bring him over to Cincinnati. But I
think Dylan Gabriel is going to get to start soon.
And then Shador Sanders does he get to come on
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down and try his luck there? Eight seven to seven
to three DP Show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle at DP show. Once again, a lot of
baseball coming up this afternoon and tonight we'll recap what
happened last night and Tyreek Hill not only the dislocation
but also the need ligaments. Adam Schefter reporting that this
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morning that it's more than just a dislocation. Any other
poll questions that you're considering their seating.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Well, we got one sort of a negative one here
from Todd MLB Wildcard rounds question mark, let's go, I'll
glance at it. Have it on in the background of
the divisional round.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
No, I think these are great matchups Tigers Guardians.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
I doesn't think so.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Sorry, No, I.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
Didn't make my vote.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
I'm throwing that out as choices for anybody.
Speaker 9 (09:11):
For me, I'll I'm not going to be watching every
inning of every game.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
What is what is your vote?
Speaker 9 (09:16):
My vote would be uh, I will be taking periodic
peaks in the background. As opposed to let's go starting
today Wildcard. I'm just I'm being honest, and I love baseball.
I loved it more in the seventies and eighties.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But I don't think anybody says let's go. Tom Brady
says let's I'm Grady, like, do you walk in and
turn on the TV and go, let's go.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
I'm a big let's go Guyyah.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
To admit for Bronco games.
Speaker 9 (09:36):
Everything else says no. But I'll definitely have it on.
But I'm not going to sit there watching everything.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But if the Astros were in it.
Speaker 9 (09:43):
Even the Astros, you know, because we know I'm a
fake fan and you are, they cheated, they didn't cheat.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
I was more of an asher fen in the eighties
Tigers Guardians.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That's entertaining. Big collapse by the Tigers.
Speaker 9 (09:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Padres of the Cubs nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
Let's go God, No, Dad, I can't believe you said that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Red Sox Yankees, Yeah uh, and then reds at the Dodgers. Right, Yeah,
I think it'd be fun. I'm excited about it. Let's go.
Speaker 9 (10:10):
Yeah it to flip the switch though, a little bit
like we none of us don't think watch that much
baseball on a regular basis, and now, especially with the
NFL and college football and basketball and hockey right around
the corner, can you flip the switch from I took
a peek here and there at you know, the fifth
inning of somewhere to do.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That with college basketball?
Speaker 8 (10:26):
College basketball, I watched the good amount of college basket.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
You wait till March.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
I watched a lot more from March.
Speaker 10 (10:31):
Menis for sure.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (10:32):
NBA, that's yeah, that's a lot more exciting than the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It is more exciting, So that's what most people.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Say the playoffs to be fair, though, the NBA playoffs
are almost four months long, so it is like a
whole season in and of itself that you can skip
the first one and be like, I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Gonna watch the second season. I don't know it starts
and I go, let's go, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yeah, baseball has instant urgency. They also schedule it so
you could watch all four games back to back, and
it's all on national TV. It's very easy to consume
during the year. You watch your team during the day,
during the night, and then you get highlights from the
other team. It's it's completely different the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
By the way, I did mention the uniforms. Broncos, stop
trying so hard. Okay, you have iconic uniforms. You don't
need to reinvent them. I know it's merchandise. Dolphins, that's
a bad look. It's a bad look from the TV perspective,
and that might be a uniform that looks a lot
better in person. The Bengals, when you're a bad team,
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your uniforms look bad. And the Jets, I still mean,
it's the same uniform. I love the Jets green, but
it's kind of an uninspiring uniform. Maybe it's classic when
you win, like they have a classic looking uniform.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yes, Marmon, the Broncos lost me as soon as I
saw them wear blue uniforms.
Speaker 9 (11:50):
Ye, crush, come on, Yes, and you try to sell
on social media it's midnight blue Week. They called it
midnight Yeah, I'm gonna buy to Jared.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I watched that channel. I think growing up it blew. Yeah,
that was fabulous.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yes, yes, And the Broncos they just relaunched their uniforms
last year, so they'll stick for a few years because
no one wants to admit a mistake.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah. Uh had a interesting back and forth with Marvin
this morning. We were discussing. Marvin claimed that he was tall,
and I said that he wasn't, and uh so we
had a little back and forth there. We're gonna have
to get the definition of Now, to me, tall is
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six to two. Maybe maybe six' one, but I'm gonna
say six to two means you're tall in my family,
in my world growing up, six to two, Okay, tall tall,
drink of water, Marvin tried to shoehorn. Yeah, if you're
six feet tall, you're tall, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (12:54):
But I've never no one's ever called me sure, but
have they called you tall?
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Okay, you're around short people.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
This is how it started. We were talking about a
time where I was in New York and somebody called
me a tall piece of chocolate.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I'm sorry about that, Marvin, Yes, he said to Paul.
He stopped. Yeah, yeah, wrong, Okay, but you're you're not
a tall piece of chocolate. You're not tall, but.
Speaker 8 (13:20):
I'm not short though.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
But you're not tall. You're an average height guy. How
tall are you?
Speaker 7 (13:26):
Eh?
Speaker 8 (13:26):
He's not six feet tall on the dot.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
All right, then you're at you're a little above average.
That doesn't make you tall.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
Five. If I was five nine, I'm not tall.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
So the average height of the of a male in
the United States is five nine. That's the average height. Okay,
Marvin is significantly taller than that.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
That just means he's a little above average. Doesn't mean
he's tall.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
He's significantly above average. But he's inches.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But he's not tall.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
He is compared to someone who's five to nine.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
No, but I'm someone who is slightly taller than six
two can look down at him and be like, actually,
you're not that tall. But to pretty much everybody else,
he is tall. Marvin, you're being a heightist right now. Marvin,
I'm tall, You're not.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
You were tall.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I'm still taller than you. I'm still taller than you.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yes, Paul, I had the definition of tall in the
Dictionary of Great or more than Average Height.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Who considers Marvin tall in this room?
Speaker 9 (14:27):
Todd does, because I'm like five ten, maybe five ten
and a half or five have the right shoes on.
So six feet I think once you hit six, oh,
you're tall.
Speaker 8 (14:34):
You're above average height.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Okay, I wouldn't say Marvin's tall. I would say he's
a good height though.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, it's pretty.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It's close to being tall, like, yeah, there six y
three and above. That's where it's like, dang, that dude
is tall. But Marvin's a good height. McLevin was tall,
mclevian was tall. Yes, okay, McLevin was tall.
Speaker 8 (14:52):
But I'm not sure though, but you're not tall.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
You're above average piece of chock clip.
Speaker 9 (15:03):
Yeah, of course, I'm sure, all right, ot, yeah, hurt
my feelings, I know.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
But people try to glom on to six feet. You know.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Not everybody could be six feet.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I'm sorry, not everybody could be that tall.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Sorry, I'm sorry. Okay, you can't be tall. I'm sorry.
All right, it's okay, but I just want to set
you straight. I'm not saying you're short. I'm just saying
you're not really in the fraternity here the tallny.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
Alright, you said it like you were shack.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I'm Victor wembn Yama.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It's kind of It's kind of like how gigantic my
hands are? Right now, that's how tall Dan is? Okay,
our Seatan's hands big? Or am I tall?
Speaker 8 (15:58):
Setans hands?
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Are these myths? These myths compared to you.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
Look at those bear claws?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, yeah, some of the biggest hands that I've ever seen.
That's right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
The whole question, bigger moment for seating birth of his son.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
My hands being not even close.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, that's the one that made him cry a.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Time, best dub I've ever taken by far.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You went into that game, you know, like you were
the Jets.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
That might be the reason why we never win a
Sports Tommy is because the universe just can't give so
much good to one person.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Bigger hands and the sports Emmy no way.
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Speaker 2 (17:25):
CBS Sports Westwood One, NFL college football analyst and host
of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. He called the Titans
Texans game and he's got Niners rams on Thursday and
then Air Force Navy Saturday on CBS. How bad are
the Titans?
Speaker 12 (17:43):
Has not been a very good two weeks for them,
that's for sure. And I would say in particular that
the Texans game was really disappointing, just to get shut
out like that, and then the way things unraveled in
the fourth quarter. I mean, what's crazy, Dan, is it
was six nothing at the end of the third quarter.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
Neither team had made a trip to the red zone yet.
Speaker 12 (18:07):
And I'm the one that has to talk about the
game on TV, Dan, neither team had gotten there yet,
and then all of a sudden, the floodgates just opened
and the Texans scored three touchdowns.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
I guess what I'm wondering.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
Is you know, moving forward because the Texans play the
Ravens this week, which is a big game. How much
of that was the Texans really figuring things out offensively
where they had three straight touchdown.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
Drives and how many of that?
Speaker 12 (18:33):
How much of that was the Titans kind of making
the mistakes because it felt like they sort of unraveled
in the fourth quarter. There they're obviously in a bad
way right now that they probably have a blow average
roster rookie quarterback.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
You know, they're making changes, there's all kinds of.
Speaker 12 (18:52):
Noise out there. You know, it's like anything else. They
just got to find a way to get a win.
But that's easier said than done.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I'm watching the Bengals like last night, and it was
just uninspiring, very little creativity. Just felt like there was
a team that shouldn't have been in the NFL last night.
And you know, the Broncos do what you need to do,
you win those games. But you start to look at
the Bengals. They're two and two in a division that
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is winnable, and do you make a move? And if so,
what move?
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Well, they're not winning that division.
Speaker 12 (19:27):
You know, I don't know who they could bring in
a quarterback, you know that is going to be a
significant upgrade from Browning now, he has not looked good
the last two games.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
You know, maybe it's Russell Wilson, maybe it's.
Speaker 12 (19:38):
Jamis, you know, I don't know who they could bring in,
But are those guys really going to come in and
immediately be better than Browning Who's been in the system
for several years and actually two years ago played really well.
I'm surprised. I thought Browning would play better than this.
I thought the Bengals would play better than this. It's
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almost like watching them in these last two games. They
look defeated. They look like Joe's out for the year.
We're not really going anywhere, and you rarely see that
in the NFL, especially this early in the season.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
But they look like a defeated bunch.
Speaker 12 (20:19):
To get blown out like they did by the Vikings,
and then you think, okay, wake up call. You know
they'll come back, they'll bounce back. They might have even
been worse last night. Now, they didn't have the same
turnovers and defensive touchdowns like the Vikings had against them,
but they got totally annihilated in every.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Aspect of football last night. Which, by the way, last night.
Speaker 12 (20:45):
Is why there are so many rules out there to
protect quarterbacks and try to not have them get injured.
That's a totally different game, way more entertaining. You could
hear it in Joe Buck and Treigman's voice. That's a
totally different scenario if Joe Burrow is playing in that game.
I can't even imagine how much better the ratings would
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have been. That's why the quarterbacks are afforded all the
protections that they are, and probably rightfully so for us
as consumers.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
The Dolphins win, but suffer a big loss with Tyreek Hill,
you know, dislocated mee and then you have the ACL
tear on top of that. I mean, this feels almost
career threatening with that kind of injury.
Speaker 12 (21:28):
What do you think, Well, I don't think we'll ever
see him what he was, and that's kind of sad.
I think he's the fastest human being I've ever seen
in person. He's definitely the fastest person I've ever.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Seen on a football field.
Speaker 12 (21:43):
It's just I mean, this offseason, for the heck of it,
he ran in a couple track meets and he ran
a ten to one hundred without training like that.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Is insane, fastest guy I've ever seen in a football field.
Speaker 12 (21:57):
You know, this is somewhat similar to what happened to
Nick Chubb a couple of years ago.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
So I do think.
Speaker 12 (22:03):
Tyreek could come back, perhaps and play in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
But Chubb isn't what he was in Cleveland, and.
Speaker 12 (22:10):
It's especially at his age, highly unlikely Tyreek Kill will
be he what he's been all these years, which is
sad because yeah, he really is, you know, and he's
had his you know, his issues off the field and
all that stuff well documented, but he is up there
among the most entertaining and best deep threats that we've
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ever seen in the sport. It's been incredibly fun to
watch him play for years.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Is there a label on the MetLife Stadium turf? You know,
Malik Neighbors getting injured there. I don't know if it's
a reputation for these kind of injuries, you.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Know where I think it is too.
Speaker 12 (22:53):
I think perception is reality, and I don't mean that
the perception can cause the injury. But there's no question
among fans, media players in the NFL there's a belief
that I mean, most guys don't like turf, period, but
there's a belief that in particular the MetLife Stadium turf,
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that there's an issue there.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
You know.
Speaker 12 (23:19):
This just kind of adds to the ledger of really
non contact injuries on that surface that haven't looked good,
that that guys don't like. And so I think that
the Giants and Jets really need to do something about this.
I don't know that it's so far that it affects
them in free agency or guys signing there, but it's
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not a good thing to have hanging over your franchise.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
You know.
Speaker 12 (23:44):
I don't even if they just change it to a
different turf, you know, and I know I think they
said two years ago, maybe they put a new one in.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 12 (23:52):
I just think there's a there's a very negative perception
about the met Life turf that's not gonna not going
for met Life knocking for the Giants or Jets, that's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Ross Tucker, he'll be on the call Thursday night Niners
and the Rams. You can check out his podcast, Ross
Tucker Football Podcast. You're Close to the Eagles. Help me
understand aj Brown saying that he didn't want to talk
to reporters postgame A short time later, he posted a
quote from the Bible. If you're not welcome, not listen
to quietly withdrawal, don't make a scene, shrug your shoulders
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and be on your way. Read between the lines.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Yeah, but by posting that, oh, I know, isn't he
making a scene? Yes? I'm so confused.
Speaker 12 (24:38):
I like, I like by posting that he's necessarily making
a scene.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
I'm not a fan of it.
Speaker 12 (24:46):
I mean, they threw him the ball nine times, So
nine times they threw them ball nine times. I really
don't get what he's so upset about. I mean, hurts
missed him on a couple throws. You know, the week
before he had six catches for over one hundred yards
just in.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
The second half against the Rams.
Speaker 12 (25:04):
I just look forget aj Brown right in general, I'm
just not I don't believe that's how you handle things, right, Like,
can you imagine, like what if I started after this segment?
You know, if I don't like the questions that you
asked me during this segment, Dan, Can I if I
if I made some vague social posts like not going
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on shows.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Anymore unless the host knows what's up, you know what
I mean? Like like if I had an issue with you.
You know, I would. I would text you or email.
Speaker 12 (25:35):
You'd be like, hey, I wouldn't like that line of questioning,
or hey can we talk? And I would you and
I you and I would talk about it, and I'd say,
remember two years ago when you hammered me on the
Taysom Hill thing, which I didn't have a problem with,
but if I did, I would like I would talk
to you about it.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 12 (25:52):
I wouldn't like have these like, uh, these vague posts
you know that people are trying to interpret. I just
I don't think that's a good or healthy way for
anyone to go through life unless you want the attention
and you're you're looking for the publicity and the social
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media and the discussion. And maybe that's the game. Maybe
he already talks to Sirianni and talks to Hurtz and
handles things the right way behind closed doors, but still
wants to do this just for his Q rating or
whatever they call when you get more, more impressions more.
I don't know, maybe this is a social media thing. Mean,
last year, the guy was reading a book on the bench,
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which I've never seen before in my entire life.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
So he's a unique guy. He is an awesome, awesome
football player, but pretty clearly a unique guy.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah but okay, you're winning defending champs, and I just
you're on a team that's not going to throw the
ball a lot.
Speaker 12 (26:52):
Like undefeated defending's Foot Bowl champions. He makes thirty three
million dollars a year. They gave him a new cut
when he had two years up on his other contract.
I I would cut off like that far on my
pinky right there for the people watching on Peacock.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
I cut up that much on my pinky to be
as unhappy as AJ Brown like like to like, let
me let me experience this pain and suffering that AJ
Brown is suffering right now.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Okay, what do we do with ties during the regular
season in the NFL?
Speaker 7 (27:25):
Oh my gosh, you know I hadn't.
Speaker 12 (27:28):
I didn't listen yesterday, So I don't know where you
stand on this. I this would be my You know
how people say if you were a commissioner for a day, ross,
what would be the first thing? This would be the
first thing. I despise ties. First of all, it's Unamerican. Okay. Secondly,
you know the issue, the biggest issue I have with
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ties is this Everybody feels like they lost.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Everybody feels like they lost the game. Not a single.
Speaker 12 (27:57):
Cowboys player or coach was happy in the locker room.
Not a single Packers player or coach. I think I
never had a problem with sudden death. I think college
overtime's amazing. You know that Penn State Oregon game. Okay,
you know, Dan, I live in central Pennsylvania. Everybody I
knew went to the game and whatever. At the end
of that game, all the Penn State fans, the players,
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the coaches, absolute devastation.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
The Oregon players, coaches.
Speaker 12 (28:28):
Ecstatic, gigantic win, something they'll remember for the rest their lives.
You know what nobody talks about for the rest of
their lives. A tie, you know, like, nothing like That's
That's why we even play sports, right, the thrill of victory,
the agony of defeat, to feel alive, to feel like
we're doing something. Special Ties are terrible, and we're gonna
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have more of them. We're gonna have more of them
with the new rule that both teams get the ball
no matter what. And I don't know what Matt the.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Floor was doing at the end of that game.
Speaker 12 (29:02):
It's like he was so afraid that Brandon Aubrey might
hit a seventy five yard field goal with five seconds
left that he played for the tie, which, to be honest,
I hope it comes back to bite him later in
the year because I despise that mindset that they got
two plays off after they called time out with thirty
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two seconds left.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
Two plays.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Take take a breath.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
I really don't like to You had a pro tie guy,
are you like a Seaton's probably.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
A fun tie guy. No, we like pks. We were
thinking about having the kickers have a kickoff where they
started maybe the fifty and then they go to the
fifty five, and then the sixty and then the first
one to lose or miss or the first one to
hit it they win.
Speaker 12 (29:57):
College ot but started the thirty five or go back
to sudden death, which incidentally is what overtime when I
played was. When I played for seven years, I never
not once heard one player or coach complain about sudden
death overtime.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
You know that it's sudden death.
Speaker 12 (30:17):
Win in regulation, and then if it gets to sudden death,
get a stop.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
Man. I'm bothered. I'm bothered by ties, as you can tell.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Are the Chiefs back.
Speaker 12 (30:31):
They're getting there, and I think they'll be fully back
when they get Rashi Rice back from suspension.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Okay, but where if you have Buffalo at one? Yeah,
where's Kansas City two?
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Oh? Okay?
Speaker 8 (30:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (30:45):
I don't know what's going on with the Ravens right now.
That's a bad situation. I don't believe in the Steelers.
I think that the Chargers losing alt now for a
few weeks really hurts them. I think the only other
team that's up there with the Chiefs and the Bills.
Believe it or not, I think the Indianapolis Colts might
be that good. You know, if a d Mitchell doesn't
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cost them two touchdowns on Sunday they win at LA
against the Rams to get to undefeated. I mean, that's
why I think they had the Colts today on the
Rothhucker podcast Powerings, I might had them fifth. I'm a
big time believer right now in the Indianapolis Colts, even
though they lost that game.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Safe travels. Thanks for joining us as always, all right,
thank you, mat that's Ross Tucker.
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Speaker 10 (32:02):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Everything's great? Everything's great. Look at you on the set there,
ready for afternoon baseball? Suit and tie. Give me the
overall favorite in the playoffs.
Speaker 10 (32:13):
Well, for me, the overall favorite is the Dodgers.
Speaker 13 (32:15):
I mean you start looking at they got to August
into September, they got healthy, and they're the team to be.
The pitchings lined up, hitting, the offense, the whole, the
whole thing.
Speaker 10 (32:26):
It's all there.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Why did they have a dip in pitching was a
real question mark for though.
Speaker 13 (32:32):
You know, they went to some injuries. Obviously, Glass and
Now went out for a while. Snell started to season out. Uh,
Sasaki didn't throw like they thought he might. You know
my mooto midst time show, Hey star, that's it. It
was a litany of injuries. But now they're all lined up.
You're looking at Snell, Glass, now's not even scheduled to
throw the first round Kershaw either and you still so
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you're looking at Yamamoto, Snell and Otani the first round,
so we'll see. I think the interesting thing Dan, real quick,
I'll throw this in is Otani.
Speaker 10 (33:04):
If you look at the numbers the.
Speaker 13 (33:07):
Day after he pitches, he's hitting like one thirty, and
so he will have he will pitch and have a
day off. And they figured out figured that out throughout
the course of the season that if we give him
a day off after he pitches, the next day, he's
back hitting and everything takes off.
Speaker 10 (33:22):
So they're working that. You can look for that throughout
the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
We had Mark prior to the Dodgers pitching coach on
a little while ago, and he said that they would
entertain the idea of using Otani in relief. But it's
difficult to have somebody like when do you warm up?
And if he's warming up, you want him in. You're
going to have him out in the field. So I
think it's a little trickier. But the deeper they get
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into the postseason, more likely or less likely to see
Otani out of the bullpen.
Speaker 13 (33:52):
Well, you can see him out of the bullpen it's
different than when I was playing or when we were
around covering a.
Speaker 10 (33:57):
Lot of baseball because of the facilities.
Speaker 13 (34:00):
The Dodgers have had one hundred million dollar renovation to
the clubhouse. They have all the pitching mounds and everything
under there, so guys go underneath now can actually throw
and get ready without He can do that in between
innings and be ready to go out and warm up, so.
Speaker 10 (34:14):
That that could be a reason that they could use
him out of the pen, which I hadn't thought about
before much.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
But can you see a scenario where somebody wins somebody
else wins the MVP than Otani given the fact that
he does have that I'm pitching and hitting.
Speaker 13 (34:30):
No, I mean, just the fact that he pitches is
a trump card. That's like, you, Dan, you can sue
pre throws, You're gonna win, right, I mean, like it's
the extra thing every year, every player knows they're going
up against it. I think you got a great argument
in the American League when you're looking at Cal Rawley
and Aaron Judge, and if one of those guys pitched,
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it wouldn't be a conversation.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
It is not. But you got one that catches, and
I think there should be added value to that. There
should be bonus points for cal Rawly.
Speaker 13 (35:00):
I have cal Rawly winning it if he was not
a catcher. That's not a conversation. But for a catcher
to do what he's doing, catch and hit sixty home runs.
But on top of that, what's the job of the
catcher always been make sure your pitching staff is taken
care of. Your hitting is a bonus. Well, he had
a big time bonus and he's a Platinum Glove defender.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
So I don't see the argument.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
What Judge has gotten to that point, almost like Michael Jordan,
where we're like, all right, he hit fifty, Like hitting
fifty is still a big deal to me. But and
Judge had the average. But I do find this interesting
with the analytics and the analyst they go, hey, don't
forget about Judge's batting average. I go, well, wait a minute,
the analytics told me to not think about batting average.
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Now we think about batting average. You can't have it
both ways here.
Speaker 13 (35:49):
I have the same argument with Ryan Candy. All the
time he throws a different oh that's a justin ballpark rate.
I'm like, every time you throw a different one at me.
It's just not the way it's supposed to be. So
I'm on your side with that.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
How would you sum up the Mets season?
Speaker 13 (36:08):
Man, biggest disappointment in the sport, you know, to be
first place in June one and to fall apart. Obviously
they can point to the pitching injuries, but I look
at the fact they didn't address it. You know, they
addressed the bullpen, but they didn't get the pitching taken
care of. And you just can't have that payroll, go
out get a player for one hundred, seven hundred and
sixty five million and not make the playoffs. There's twelve
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teams in the in the big leagues. In the playoffs,
there's only thirty teams in the league. It just can't happen.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Talking to Harold Reynolds, you can see him MLB tonight
the National pregame show they're on at noon, and throughout
the postseason and the World Series.
Speaker 10 (36:47):
We address and normally I'd have a hoodie on.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Like you, Dan, I know, I know you'd be casual.
If not the Dodgers in the National League, then who.
Speaker 13 (36:58):
Then the Phillies. I think the Phillies are there. If
the Phillies had Wheeler healthy. I think I may lean
even greater to them. Although the Dodgers I think are
a step above everybody else. The Padres will be very interesting.
They'll make it competitive. How the brackets are set up.
I don't know if you dove into that much, but
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that really opens the window for that other side, for
those guys to sneak in. Because now the Dodgers win
this round, they play the Phillies, and those are the
best two teams in the National League.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Who's your pick in the American League?
Speaker 10 (37:34):
Uh, the American League. I got Seattle, and that's not
a Homer move, you know.
Speaker 13 (37:38):
It's just the fact that they got the best pitching,
they're playing great ball right now, and I think it's
gonna line up pretty good for the Mariners to win it.
Speaker 10 (37:45):
I think they're the.
Speaker 13 (37:45):
Best team in the American League. If not them, then
I would say the Yankees, and most other people would
pick the Blue Jay. So you got some pretty good
runners and opportunities to make some runs, but I think
the Mariners are the team to be.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Do you think the Angels ever entertain trading Mike Trump?
Speaker 10 (38:01):
I don't know. At this point in time.
Speaker 13 (38:04):
That window might have passed I thought they should have
made that move maybe three or four years ago.
Speaker 7 (38:10):
Now.
Speaker 13 (38:11):
I don't know if Mike's ready to move on or
if already's ready to move him, but I would still
have to look at it if I was the Angels.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Is he still a great player?
Speaker 10 (38:23):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (38:23):
Yeah, he's still a great player. I think we're seeing
him start to get healthy again. I mean, he's still
had twenty plus home runs. He played you know, half
the season really, so I think he's getting back to
where he's healthy and playing. He's still in the right lineup,
a very potent player.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
He's played in three postseason games. That's a shame.
Speaker 10 (38:45):
Shame, shame.
Speaker 13 (38:47):
It's just hard to imagine, especially when I just talked
about with the format now for twelve of the thirty
teams are now going to be in the playoffs and
Mike Trott's only been there three times and that was
under the old format.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, the automated balls and strikes. We had the commissioner
on and he said, all right, we're going to roll
this out just a little bit and we know how
this goes. How long until we have automated balls and
strikes full time? Oh?
Speaker 13 (39:15):
I think that's going to happen right away. They tested
in spring training last year. The players didn't have a
whole lot of pushback. I think, really it'll go full.
That's going to be part of the basic agreement coming up.
You know, when that agreement expires in another year, that's
going to be on the table in conversation. But I
think the players of it liked it. The one thing
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we're seeing in baseball. You saw the all new the
new rule changes, with the stolen bases and the pitch
timer and everything else. We have a generation of players
now that have grown up with all those things. Yeah,
played in the minor leagues with a pitch timer and
with the pickoff rules. They played in the minor leagues
with the new ball strikes system. That's what they've grown
(39:59):
up on. So it's not as foreign to the player
as it is maybe to the viewer.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Why is it when we talk best swings in the
game or of all time, they're always left handed hitters.
Speaker 10 (40:11):
I don't know why.
Speaker 13 (40:12):
I have a guess, because you just kind of drop
the bat and it just it's almost like.
Speaker 10 (40:17):
A pretty golf swing.
Speaker 13 (40:19):
But one thing that's happening now in this generation, you
don't hear people say, what a pretty swing.
Speaker 10 (40:25):
You don't hear him.
Speaker 13 (40:26):
Say Aaron Judge has a pretty swing. Cayle Rawley has
a pretty swing. You don't hear that anymore. Because we're
so into ah gotta grunt everything out instead of guys
with just easy, fluid swings. We don't see that a
whole lot anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Ken Griffy Junior the greatest swing in baseball history.
Speaker 10 (40:45):
If you don't say so, he'll come get He's the
greatest swing.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Who would be comparable to his swing in today's game?
It could be all time. Is there another swing that
comes close to that?
Speaker 13 (41:02):
It doesn't come to your mind that easy, that quickly.
Speaker 7 (41:07):
I don't.
Speaker 10 (41:07):
I can't think of anybody else.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Like Paul Merrow had a really good swing.
Speaker 13 (41:11):
Meroo had a nice swing. Uh, there was a number
of guys. Chipper Jones was pretty good from the left side.
You started thinking about guy's swings, But nobody was as
pretty as Griffy. And I think it was because he
had the hat backwards, he had an airring and he
just kind of stood there and watched it too.
Speaker 10 (41:27):
That helps to be able.
Speaker 8 (41:28):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
But right handed hitters like nobody says, pooholes, what a
beautiful swing. Or Mark McGuire or Paul Molletor. It's like, no, what.
Speaker 10 (41:36):
We started doing now is we've kind of spin them around.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I know, see if.
Speaker 10 (41:40):
He was left hand, it didn't be a pretty swing.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Darryl Strawberry had a pretty swing.
Speaker 10 (41:45):
Yes he did, Yes, straw did.
Speaker 13 (41:47):
But there was a lot of guys back in the day,
you know that that had that left handed stroke that
just seemed to work.
Speaker 8 (41:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I remember Paul Molletor had one of the quickest swings,
like through this, through this, like it was so compact,
so quick. It wasn't a beautiful swing. I just remember
watching him. It was like, you know, Bond, nobody's quicker
through the zone than Bonds.
Speaker 10 (42:10):
No, nobody was quicker than Barry.
Speaker 13 (42:12):
And even Barry, they don't say, what a pretty swing, No,
no stride, just to get that bat through the zone
so quick. I love fernantal Tattoosa's finished.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
You Okay, he puts up, he puts.
Speaker 13 (42:24):
A little flair on it even so hail Tani starting
to put some flair on it now.
Speaker 10 (42:29):
You know he's getting Americanized a little bit.
Speaker 13 (42:31):
He's standing there, he's showing some balls. He's standing there
showing people up. He's something though. Man, have you seen
him in person?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah, he's a big guy. Oh my goodness, he's a
big It's like when I saw Yao Ming for the
first time, mm hmm, and he was he was some like.
You know, I thought Shaq was big or Mark Eaton,
and then you see him, I go, oh my god.
Like when I saw Cam Cam Newton is another guy.
I saw Cam in personally. Go kind Lee, what you're
(43:01):
playing quarterback?
Speaker 7 (43:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (43:03):
I was on the beach in Miami one day and
we're walking and all of a sudden, the shadow came.
Speaker 10 (43:08):
Over and it was Shack and I was like, holy
you just keep going.
Speaker 13 (43:14):
I never saw y'all ming, but Shack was enormous, and
then he had all the girth to go with it.
Speaker 10 (43:19):
He was enormous. You know, the diesel, the diesel, come
with the baby diesel.
Speaker 7 (43:23):
You know.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I do my day, Dan Patrick, and shut the hell up.
Uh Okay, if you're the Pirates, do you do anything
with Schemes? If you're Schemes, do you do anything with
the Pirates?
Speaker 13 (43:36):
Well, schemes doesn't have a whole lot of leverage because
that's just kind of the contract.
Speaker 10 (43:40):
If I were the pirates.
Speaker 13 (43:42):
They're gonna hate me for saying this, but we said
it all summer, so I may as well say it again.
I would have pulled a Hearssel Walker trade and I
would have dealt him, and I would have got back
a whole new franchise of players and turned the whole
losing thing around and started winning.
Speaker 10 (43:55):
I just think his.
Speaker 13 (43:56):
Value is so high, and if you're not gonna put
players around him and invest to put that team around him,
then you gotta trade him or else he's gonna be
a free agent. You're gonna go through the same thing
and went through with Garrett Cole. You're gonna go through
the same thing you've been. It's been repeating itself. At
some point you got to flip the franchise and be
able to turn it around.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Good to talk to you.
Speaker 10 (44:17):
Have fun today, all right, DP appreciate your brother.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Thank you, Harold Reynolds.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Bad football, bad uniforms, Dolphins hold off the Jets, big news.
Tyreek kill his season is done, dislocated, his knees, got
torn ligaments as well. Broncos embarrassed the Bengals twenty eight
to three. The Bengals. They had more penalties than first
downs last night. And I will say it once again,
(00:26):
you don't want to waste a season, and that's what
you're going to do. You lose Joe Burrow, you can't
replace him, But can you get a reasonable fact simile?
Can you get somebody who is a starting quarterback? And
that is Kirk Cousins or Russell Wilson. If not, you've
already punted on the season. And you saw that last night.
That was not football. It felt like there was one
(00:48):
NFL team on the field and then there was a
college football team. This was really it was ugly and
even Troy Aikman was voicing his displeasure with watching bad football.
The Jets are just dumb. You know, I'm watching the game.
You can't get to the line of scrimmage on time
falls starts. They could easily be two and two. They
(01:11):
could be now they're zero and four. They don't feel
zero and four. And the Dolphins you get a win,
but you lose Tyreek Hill, and that's one of those
it's not just a season that you lose him. Now
you start to think about a bigger picture here for
Tyreek Hill, that kind of injury coming back from those injuries.
Even if he does this doesn't feel like it's a
(01:31):
one year that he'll be out. So the Dolphins hold
off the Jets and they win it. Broncos get the win.
It's hard to assess the Broncos when you play in
a game like that because the Bengals are just bad.
It looked like they were disinterested. It's hard to you know,
you would think, you go, okay, it's Week four, like well, okay,
we'd be playing the NFL, we're in prime time. Let's
(01:54):
go out there and ply. And it just felt like, yeah, okay,
we'll go through the motions here. And Jamar Chase is
not a happy camper. He confronted his head coach. But
then his head coach was like, That's why I love Jamar.
You know, he cares, he's fire, he's you know all
this stuff. I'm like, no, no, he's actually really really
(02:15):
angry here. How are you going to solve that? And
Jake Browning was vanilla generic, but it's not all on him.
I mean that was you know, all three phases that
the Bengals just not a good football team. And you know,
when you start to think about the numbers here in
the previous nine years, the Bengals have had fewer than
(02:38):
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Speaker 3 (03:25):
The Jets are better than their record or who we
thought they were?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I think they're both. I think they're better than their record,
but they're who I thought they'd be. Aaron Glenn, you know,
brings in culture. He's a former player and trying to
bring in that Dan Campbell culture. And it's going to
take a while, but you'd got to get rid of
the stupid penalties. You may not be as good as
the opposition, but don't beat yourself. And I think there
(03:55):
were three penalties in a span of four plays. I go,
if you can't get out of the huddle and get
to the line of scrimmage on time, how about you
move your huddle two yards closer to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yeah, so your eight yards back?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Like what are you doing? And once again I'm a
Justin Field's apologist. I think he has talent. I think
he's been bounced around with coaches and coordinators. I think
he can be dangerous. I think he can be maybe
Lamar Jackson lte. You know, he can run the ball.
I think he's a decent passer. Maybe he with the
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right coaching, can become a good passer. They got one,
they got one receiver. They got Garrett Wilson. That's it now,
he's great. But other than that, I mean, Breece Hall
can run the football. Sauce Gardner thinks that he's being
singled out that he doesn't get the calls that he should.
But you know, the Jets should be a little more formidable,
(04:57):
and they could have won that game last night. It's
not like the Dolph were dominating.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, Seaton, they so far the Jets. Week one they
lost thirty four to thirty two to Pittsburgh. The Week
two was thirty to ten Buffalo, all right, but then
twenty nine to twenty seven to Tampa, and now twenty
seven to twenty one to Miami. I mean those are
all very close games for the most part.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, yeah, Poly.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
You know what's gonna happen here. The Jets right now
have the second pick of the draft. They'll be a
top three draft pick. They'll draft a quarterback and start
this thing all over again. Because they have no money
really invested in fields, they can easily move on from them,
and theyil the cycle of the Jets going with a
young quarterback will start again next year.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What other pole questions do you have, Seaton.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Let's see, we've got a couple here from the t dub.
We have a couple of poll questions that are all
sort of in the similar vein. But it's not even October,
which NFL team has already mostly done. Bengals, Jets, Saints,
Titans might as well. This is a little bit of
a kick them while they're down pole question, because then
we also have from Paul which team feels like the
worst in the NFL so far? Bengals, Browns, Jets, Saints,
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Titans basically all the same group.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I would say the Titans, they just feel like they're
just lost. It's like, you know, maybe we'll regroup next year,
but they're going to be one of those teams that
has a couple of wins where you go, damn, okay,
where was this all year? It feels like like Carolina
was like that last year where it was like, man,
they're going toe to toe with the Chiefs. Where's that been?
(06:28):
It's weird how it clicks sometimes and you don't know
when it. It's called being in the zone. Baseball players
talk about being in the zone. It's called getting blue
where you're hitting everything like everything's great, you can't or
you're you know, Steph Curry shooting and can't miss. It's
called being in the zone. And teams get in that
and then they don't know how they got in, and
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they don't know why they got out, but that's going
to happen. The Jets are probably going to have a
couple of those games where you go, where's this been?
Maybe the Bengals they put it together for a couple
of games and you go, okay, that's why they kept
Jake Browning and didn't trade for Russell Wilson Junior. The
third Yes, Marvin Well.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
In the Titans case, it's going to be a lot
of good losses like, oh, you know what, we played
the Colts really well, almost like the Panthers last year.
They played the Chiefs really well. They didn't win, but
you'll take it as a win if you're that bad.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, Saints are bad, but it doesn't they don't feelize
in an inept as the Titans. Do you know the
brown situation? Keep an eye on this because Dylan Gabriel
is going to get the start at some point really soon.
Now do you start him overseas in London against the
(07:38):
Vikings defense? Now I would say no, but then it's
the Browns. Jackson Dard started at home against the Chargers.
That's different. But Dylan Gabriel, he's going to get the
start at some point here real soon. And then I
wonder is Joe Flacco going to stay on on the roster.
(08:00):
It feels like he needs to be there. You have
to have a grown up in the room with the
young quarterbacks there. But he would be a guy that
I would look at maybe joining another team if you
could get Flacco bring him over to Cincinnati. But I
think Dylan Gabriel is going to get to start soon.
And then Shador Sanders does he get to come on
(08:20):
down and try his luck there? Eight seven to seven
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baseball coming up this afternoon and tonight we'll recap what
happened last night and Tyreek Hill not only the dislocation
but also the need ligaments. Adam Schefter reporting that this
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morning that it's more than just a dislocation. Any other
poll questions that you're considering their seating.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Well, we got one sort of a negative one here
from Todd MLB Wildcard rounds question mark, let's go, I'll
glance at it. Have it on in the background of
the divisional round.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
No, I think these are great matchups Tigers Guardians.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
I doesn't think so.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Sorry, No, I.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
Didn't make my vote.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
I'm throwing that out as choices for anybody.
Speaker 9 (09:11):
For me, I'll I'm not going to be watching every
inning of every game.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
What is what is your vote?
Speaker 9 (09:16):
My vote would be uh, I will be taking periodic
peaks in the background. As opposed to let's go starting
today Wildcard. I'm just I'm being honest, and I love baseball.
I loved it more in the seventies and eighties.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But I don't think anybody says let's go. Tom Brady
says let's I'm Grady, like, do you walk in and
turn on the TV and go, let's go.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
I'm a big let's go Guyyah.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
To admit for Bronco games.
Speaker 9 (09:36):
Everything else says no. But I'll definitely have it on.
But I'm not going to sit there watching everything.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But if the Astros were in it.
Speaker 9 (09:43):
Even the Astros, you know, because we know I'm a
fake fan and you are, they cheated, they didn't cheat.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
I was more of an asher fen in the eighties
Tigers Guardians.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That's entertaining. Big collapse by the Tigers.
Speaker 9 (09:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Padres of the Cubs nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
Let's go God, No, Dad, I can't believe you said that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Red Sox Yankees, Yeah uh, and then reds at the Dodgers. Right, Yeah,
I think it'd be fun. I'm excited about it. Let's go.
Speaker 9 (10:10):
Yeah it to flip the switch though, a little bit
like we none of us don't think watch that much
baseball on a regular basis, and now, especially with the
NFL and college football and basketball and hockey right around
the corner, can you flip the switch from I took
a peek here and there at you know, the fifth
inning of somewhere to do.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That with college basketball?
Speaker 8 (10:26):
College basketball, I watched the good amount of college basket.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
You wait till March.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
I watched a lot more from March.
Speaker 10 (10:31):
Menis for sure.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (10:32):
NBA, that's yeah, that's a lot more exciting than the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It is more exciting, So that's what most people.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Say the playoffs to be fair, though, the NBA playoffs
are almost four months long, so it is like a
whole season in and of itself that you can skip
the first one and be like, I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Gonna watch the second season. I don't know it starts
and I go, let's go, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yeah, baseball has instant urgency. They also schedule it so
you could watch all four games back to back, and
it's all on national TV. It's very easy to consume
during the year. You watch your team during the day,
during the night, and then you get highlights from the
other team. It's it's completely different the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
By the way, I did mention the uniforms. Broncos, stop
trying so hard. Okay, you have iconic uniforms. You don't
need to reinvent them. I know it's merchandise. Dolphins, that's
a bad look. It's a bad look from the TV perspective,
and that might be a uniform that looks a lot
better in person. The Bengals, when you're a bad team,
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your uniforms look bad. And the Jets, I still mean,
it's the same uniform. I love the Jets green, but
it's kind of an uninspiring uniform. Maybe it's classic when
you win, like they have a classic looking uniform.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yes, Marmon, the Broncos lost me as soon as I
saw them wear blue uniforms.
Speaker 9 (11:50):
Ye, crush, come on, Yes, and you try to sell
on social media it's midnight blue Week. They called it
midnight Yeah, I'm gonna buy to Jared.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I watched that channel. I think growing up it blew. Yeah,
that was fabulous.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yes, yes, And the Broncos they just relaunched their uniforms
last year, so they'll stick for a few years because
no one wants to admit a mistake.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah. Uh had a interesting back and forth with Marvin
this morning. We were discussing. Marvin claimed that he was tall,
and I said that he wasn't, and uh so we
had a little back and forth there. We're gonna have
to get the definition of Now, to me, tall is
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six to two. Maybe maybe six' one, but I'm gonna
say six to two means you're tall in my family,
in my world growing up, six to two, Okay, tall tall,
drink of water, Marvin tried to shoehorn. Yeah, if you're
six feet tall, you're tall, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (12:54):
But I've never no one's ever called me sure, but
have they called you tall?
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Okay, you're around short people.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
This is how it started. We were talking about a
time where I was in New York and somebody called
me a tall piece of chocolate.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I'm sorry about that, Marvin, Yes, he said to Paul.
He stopped. Yeah, yeah, wrong, Okay, but you're you're not
a tall piece of chocolate. You're not tall, but.
Speaker 8 (13:20):
I'm not short though.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
But you're not tall. You're an average height guy. How
tall are you?
Speaker 7 (13:26):
Eh?
Speaker 8 (13:26):
He's not six feet tall on the dot.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
All right, then you're at you're a little above average.
That doesn't make you tall.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
Five. If I was five nine, I'm not tall.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
So the average height of the of a male in
the United States is five nine. That's the average height. Okay,
Marvin is significantly taller than that.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
That just means he's a little above average. Doesn't mean
he's tall.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
He's significantly above average. But he's inches.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But he's not tall.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
He is compared to someone who's five to nine.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
No, but I'm someone who is slightly taller than six
two can look down at him and be like, actually,
you're not that tall. But to pretty much everybody else,
he is tall. Marvin, you're being a heightist right now. Marvin,
I'm tall, You're not.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
You were tall.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I'm still taller than you. I'm still taller than you.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yes, Paul, I had the definition of tall in the
Dictionary of Great or more than Average Height.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Who considers Marvin tall in this room?
Speaker 9 (14:27):
Todd does, because I'm like five ten, maybe five ten
and a half or five have the right shoes on.
So six feet I think once you hit six, oh,
you're tall.
Speaker 8 (14:34):
You're above average height.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Okay, I wouldn't say Marvin's tall. I would say he's
a good height though.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, it's pretty.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It's close to being tall, like, yeah, there six y
three and above. That's where it's like, dang, that dude
is tall. But Marvin's a good height. McLevin was tall,
mclevian was tall. Yes, okay, McLevin was tall.
Speaker 8 (14:52):
But I'm not sure though, but you're not tall.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
You're above average piece of chock clip.
Speaker 9 (15:03):
Yeah, of course, I'm sure, all right, ot, yeah, hurt
my feelings, I know.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
But people try to glom on to six feet. You know.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Not everybody could be six feet.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I'm sorry, not everybody could be that tall.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Sorry, I'm sorry. Okay, you can't be tall. I'm sorry.
All right, it's okay, but I just want to set
you straight. I'm not saying you're short. I'm just saying
you're not really in the fraternity here the tallny.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
Alright, you said it like you were shack.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I'm Victor wembn Yama.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It's kind of It's kind of like how gigantic my
hands are? Right now, that's how tall Dan is? Okay,
our Seatan's hands big? Or am I tall?
Speaker 8 (15:58):
Setans hands?
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Are these myths? These myths compared to you.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
Look at those bear claws?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, yeah, some of the biggest hands that I've ever seen.
That's right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
The whole question, bigger moment for seating birth of his son.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
My hands being not even close.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, that's the one that made him cry a.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Time, best dub I've ever taken by far.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You went into that game, you know, like you were
the Jets.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
That might be the reason why we never win a
Sports Tommy is because the universe just can't give so
much good to one person.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Bigger hands and the sports Emmy no way.
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Speaker 2 (17:25):
CBS Sports Westwood One, NFL college football analyst and host
of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. He called the Titans
Texans game and he's got Niners rams on Thursday and
then Air Force Navy Saturday on CBS. How bad are
the Titans?
Speaker 12 (17:43):
Has not been a very good two weeks for them,
that's for sure. And I would say in particular that
the Texans game was really disappointing, just to get shut
out like that, and then the way things unraveled in
the fourth quarter. I mean, what's crazy, Dan, is it
was six nothing at the end of the third quarter.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
Neither team had made a trip to the red zone yet.
Speaker 12 (18:07):
And I'm the one that has to talk about the
game on TV, Dan, neither team had gotten there yet,
and then all of a sudden, the floodgates just opened
and the Texans scored three touchdowns.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
I guess what I'm wondering.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
Is you know, moving forward because the Texans play the
Ravens this week, which is a big game. How much
of that was the Texans really figuring things out offensively
where they had three straight touchdown.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
Drives and how many of that?
Speaker 12 (18:33):
How much of that was the Titans kind of making
the mistakes because it felt like they sort of unraveled
in the fourth quarter. There they're obviously in a bad
way right now that they probably have a blow average
roster rookie quarterback.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
You know, they're making changes, there's all kinds of.
Speaker 12 (18:52):
Noise out there. You know, it's like anything else. They
just got to find a way to get a win.
But that's easier said than done.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I'm watching the Bengals like last night, and it was
just uninspiring, very little creativity. Just felt like there was
a team that shouldn't have been in the NFL last night.
And you know, the Broncos do what you need to do,
you win those games. But you start to look at
the Bengals. They're two and two in a division that
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is winnable, and do you make a move? And if so,
what move?
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Well, they're not winning that division.
Speaker 12 (19:27):
You know, I don't know who they could bring in
a quarterback, you know that is going to be a
significant upgrade from Browning now, he has not looked good
the last two games.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
You know, maybe it's Russell Wilson, maybe it's.
Speaker 12 (19:38):
Jamis, you know, I don't know who they could bring in,
But are those guys really going to come in and
immediately be better than Browning Who's been in the system
for several years and actually two years ago played really well.
I'm surprised. I thought Browning would play better than this.
I thought the Bengals would play better than this. It's
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almost like watching them in these last two games. They
look defeated. They look like Joe's out for the year.
We're not really going anywhere, and you rarely see that
in the NFL, especially this early in the season.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
But they look like a defeated bunch.
Speaker 12 (20:19):
To get blown out like they did by the Vikings,
and then you think, okay, wake up call. You know
they'll come back, they'll bounce back. They might have even
been worse last night. Now, they didn't have the same
turnovers and defensive touchdowns like the Vikings had against them,
but they got totally annihilated in every.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Aspect of football last night. Which, by the way, last night.
Speaker 12 (20:45):
Is why there are so many rules out there to
protect quarterbacks and try to not have them get injured.
That's a totally different game, way more entertaining. You could
hear it in Joe Buck and Treigman's voice. That's a
totally different scenario if Joe Burrow is playing in that game.
I can't even imagine how much better the ratings would
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have been. That's why the quarterbacks are afforded all the
protections that they are, and probably rightfully so for us
as consumers.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
The Dolphins win, but suffer a big loss with Tyreek Hill,
you know, dislocated mee and then you have the ACL
tear on top of that. I mean, this feels almost
career threatening with that kind of injury.
Speaker 12 (21:28):
What do you think, Well, I don't think we'll ever
see him what he was, and that's kind of sad.
I think he's the fastest human being I've ever seen
in person. He's definitely the fastest person I've ever.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Seen on a football field.
Speaker 12 (21:43):
It's just I mean, this offseason, for the heck of it,
he ran in a couple track meets and he ran
a ten to one hundred without training like that.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Is insane, fastest guy I've ever seen in a football field.
Speaker 12 (21:57):
You know, this is somewhat similar to what happened to
Nick Chubb a couple of years ago.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
So I do think.
Speaker 12 (22:03):
Tyreek could come back, perhaps and play in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
But Chubb isn't what he was in Cleveland, and.
Speaker 12 (22:10):
It's especially at his age, highly unlikely Tyreek Kill will
be he what he's been all these years, which is
sad because yeah, he really is, you know, and he's
had his you know, his issues off the field and
all that stuff well documented, but he is up there
among the most entertaining and best deep threats that we've
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ever seen in the sport. It's been incredibly fun to
watch him play for years.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Is there a label on the MetLife Stadium turf? You know,
Malik Neighbors getting injured there. I don't know if it's
a reputation for these kind of injuries, you.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Know where I think it is too.
Speaker 12 (22:53):
I think perception is reality, and I don't mean that
the perception can cause the injury. But there's no question
among fans, media players in the NFL there's a belief
that I mean, most guys don't like turf, period, but
there's a belief that in particular the MetLife Stadium turf,
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that there's an issue there.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
You know.
Speaker 12 (23:19):
This just kind of adds to the ledger of really
non contact injuries on that surface that haven't looked good,
that that guys don't like. And so I think that
the Giants and Jets really need to do something about this.
I don't know that it's so far that it affects
them in free agency or guys signing there, but it's
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not a good thing to have hanging over your franchise.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
You know.
Speaker 12 (23:44):
I don't even if they just change it to a
different turf, you know, and I know I think they
said two years ago, maybe they put a new one in.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 12 (23:52):
I just think there's a there's a very negative perception
about the met Life turf that's not gonna not going
for met Life knocking for the Giants or Jets, that's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Ross Tucker, he'll be on the call Thursday night Niners
and the Rams. You can check out his podcast, Ross
Tucker Football Podcast. You're Close to the Eagles. Help me
understand aj Brown saying that he didn't want to talk
to reporters postgame A short time later, he posted a
quote from the Bible. If you're not welcome, not listen
to quietly withdrawal, don't make a scene, shrug your shoulders
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and be on your way. Read between the lines.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Yeah, but by posting that, oh, I know, isn't he
making a scene? Yes? I'm so confused.
Speaker 12 (24:38):
I like, I like by posting that he's necessarily making
a scene.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
I'm not a fan of it.
Speaker 12 (24:46):
I mean, they threw him the ball nine times, So
nine times they threw them ball nine times. I really
don't get what he's so upset about. I mean, hurts
missed him on a couple throws. You know, the week
before he had six catches for over one hundred yards
just in.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
The second half against the Rams.
Speaker 12 (25:04):
I just look forget aj Brown right in general, I'm
just not I don't believe that's how you handle things, right, Like,
can you imagine, like what if I started after this segment?
You know, if I don't like the questions that you
asked me during this segment, Dan, Can I if I
if I made some vague social posts like not going
(25:26):
on shows.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Anymore unless the host knows what's up, you know what
I mean? Like like if I had an issue with you.
You know, I would. I would text you or email.
Speaker 12 (25:35):
You'd be like, hey, I wouldn't like that line of questioning,
or hey can we talk? And I would you and
I you and I would talk about it, and I'd say,
remember two years ago when you hammered me on the
Taysom Hill thing, which I didn't have a problem with,
but if I did, I would like I would talk
to you about it.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 12 (25:52):
I wouldn't like have these like, uh, these vague posts
you know that people are trying to interpret. I just
I don't think that's a good or healthy way for
anyone to go through life unless you want the attention
and you're you're looking for the publicity and the social
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media and the discussion. And maybe that's the game. Maybe
he already talks to Sirianni and talks to Hurtz and
handles things the right way behind closed doors, but still
wants to do this just for his Q rating or
whatever they call when you get more, more impressions more.
I don't know, maybe this is a social media thing. Mean,
last year, the guy was reading a book on the bench,
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which I've never seen before in my entire life.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
So he's a unique guy. He is an awesome, awesome
football player, but pretty clearly a unique guy.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah but okay, you're winning defending champs, and I just
you're on a team that's not going to throw the
ball a lot.
Speaker 12 (26:52):
Like undefeated defending's Foot Bowl champions. He makes thirty three
million dollars a year. They gave him a new cut
when he had two years up on his other contract.
I I would cut off like that far on my
pinky right there for the people watching on Peacock.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
I cut up that much on my pinky to be
as unhappy as AJ Brown like like to like, let
me let me experience this pain and suffering that AJ
Brown is suffering right now.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Okay, what do we do with ties during the regular
season in the NFL?
Speaker 7 (27:25):
Oh my gosh, you know I hadn't.
Speaker 12 (27:28):
I didn't listen yesterday, So I don't know where you
stand on this. I this would be my You know
how people say if you were a commissioner for a day, ross,
what would be the first thing? This would be the
first thing. I despise ties. First of all, it's Unamerican. Okay. Secondly,
you know the issue, the biggest issue I have with
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ties is this Everybody feels like they lost.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Everybody feels like they lost the game. Not a single.
Speaker 12 (27:57):
Cowboys player or coach was happy in the locker room.
Not a single Packers player or coach. I think I
never had a problem with sudden death. I think college
overtime's amazing. You know that Penn State Oregon game. Okay,
you know, Dan, I live in central Pennsylvania. Everybody I
knew went to the game and whatever. At the end
of that game, all the Penn State fans, the players,
(28:21):
the coaches, absolute devastation.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
The Oregon players, coaches.
Speaker 12 (28:28):
Ecstatic, gigantic win, something they'll remember for the rest their lives.
You know what nobody talks about for the rest of
their lives. A tie, you know, like, nothing like That's
That's why we even play sports, right, the thrill of victory,
the agony of defeat, to feel alive, to feel like
we're doing something. Special Ties are terrible, and we're gonna
(28:53):
have more of them. We're gonna have more of them
with the new rule that both teams get the ball
no matter what. And I don't know what Matt the.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Floor was doing at the end of that game.
Speaker 12 (29:02):
It's like he was so afraid that Brandon Aubrey might
hit a seventy five yard field goal with five seconds
left that he played for the tie, which, to be honest,
I hope it comes back to bite him later in
the year because I despise that mindset that they got
two plays off after they called time out with thirty
(29:25):
two seconds left.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
Two plays.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Take take a breath.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
I really don't like to You had a pro tie guy,
are you like a Seaton's probably.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
A fun tie guy. No, we like pks. We were
thinking about having the kickers have a kickoff where they
started maybe the fifty and then they go to the
fifty five, and then the sixty and then the first
one to lose or miss or the first one to
hit it they win.
Speaker 12 (29:57):
College ot but started the thirty five or go back
to sudden death, which incidentally is what overtime when I
played was. When I played for seven years, I never
not once heard one player or coach complain about sudden
death overtime.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
You know that it's sudden death.
Speaker 12 (30:17):
Win in regulation, and then if it gets to sudden death,
get a stop.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
Man. I'm bothered. I'm bothered by ties, as you can tell.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Are the Chiefs back.
Speaker 12 (30:31):
They're getting there, and I think they'll be fully back
when they get Rashi Rice back from suspension.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Okay, but where if you have Buffalo at one? Yeah,
where's Kansas City two?
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Oh? Okay?
Speaker 8 (30:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (30:45):
I don't know what's going on with the Ravens right now.
That's a bad situation. I don't believe in the Steelers.
I think that the Chargers losing alt now for a
few weeks really hurts them. I think the only other
team that's up there with the Chiefs and the Bills.
Believe it or not, I think the Indianapolis Colts might
be that good. You know, if a d Mitchell doesn't
(31:07):
cost them two touchdowns on Sunday they win at LA
against the Rams to get to undefeated. I mean, that's
why I think they had the Colts today on the
Rothhucker podcast Powerings, I might had them fifth. I'm a
big time believer right now in the Indianapolis Colts, even
though they lost that game.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
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Speaker 10 (32:02):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Everything's great? Everything's great. Look at you on the set there,
ready for afternoon baseball? Suit and tie. Give me the
overall favorite in the playoffs.
Speaker 10 (32:13):
Well, for me, the overall favorite is the Dodgers.
Speaker 13 (32:15):
I mean you start looking at they got to August
into September, they got healthy, and they're the team to be.
The pitchings lined up, hitting, the offense, the whole, the
whole thing.
Speaker 10 (32:26):
It's all there.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Why did they have a dip in pitching was a
real question mark for though.
Speaker 13 (32:32):
You know, they went to some injuries. Obviously, Glass and
Now went out for a while. Snell started to season out. Uh,
Sasaki didn't throw like they thought he might. You know
my mooto midst time show, Hey star, that's it. It
was a litany of injuries. But now they're all lined up.
You're looking at Snell, Glass, now's not even scheduled to
throw the first round Kershaw either and you still so
(32:55):
you're looking at Yamamoto, Snell and Otani the first round,
so we'll see. I think the interesting thing Dan, real quick,
I'll throw this in is Otani.
Speaker 10 (33:04):
If you look at the numbers the.
Speaker 13 (33:07):
Day after he pitches, he's hitting like one thirty, and
so he will have he will pitch and have a
day off. And they figured out figured that out throughout
the course of the season that if we give him
a day off after he pitches, the next day, he's
back hitting and everything takes off.
Speaker 10 (33:22):
So they're working that. You can look for that throughout
the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
We had Mark prior to the Dodgers pitching coach on
a little while ago, and he said that they would
entertain the idea of using Otani in relief. But it's
difficult to have somebody like when do you warm up?
And if he's warming up, you want him in. You're
going to have him out in the field. So I
think it's a little trickier. But the deeper they get
(33:46):
into the postseason, more likely or less likely to see
Otani out of the bullpen.
Speaker 13 (33:52):
Well, you can see him out of the bullpen it's
different than when I was playing or when we were
around covering a.
Speaker 10 (33:57):
Lot of baseball because of the facilities.
Speaker 13 (34:00):
The Dodgers have had one hundred million dollar renovation to
the clubhouse. They have all the pitching mounds and everything
under there, so guys go underneath now can actually throw
and get ready without He can do that in between
innings and be ready to go out and warm up, so.
Speaker 10 (34:14):
That that could be a reason that they could use
him out of the pen, which I hadn't thought about
before much.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
But can you see a scenario where somebody wins somebody
else wins the MVP than Otani given the fact that
he does have that I'm pitching and hitting.
Speaker 13 (34:30):
No, I mean, just the fact that he pitches is
a trump card. That's like, you, Dan, you can sue
pre throws, You're gonna win, right, I mean, like it's
the extra thing every year, every player knows they're going
up against it. I think you got a great argument
in the American League when you're looking at Cal Rawley
and Aaron Judge, and if one of those guys pitched,
(34:50):
it wouldn't be a conversation.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
It is not. But you got one that catches, and
I think there should be added value to that. There
should be bonus points for cal Rawly.
Speaker 13 (35:00):
I have cal Rawly winning it if he was not
a catcher. That's not a conversation. But for a catcher
to do what he's doing, catch and hit sixty home runs.
But on top of that, what's the job of the
catcher always been make sure your pitching staff is taken
care of. Your hitting is a bonus. Well, he had
a big time bonus and he's a Platinum Glove defender.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
So I don't see the argument.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
What Judge has gotten to that point, almost like Michael Jordan,
where we're like, all right, he hit fifty, Like hitting
fifty is still a big deal to me. But and
Judge had the average. But I do find this interesting
with the analytics and the analyst they go, hey, don't
forget about Judge's batting average. I go, well, wait a minute,
the analytics told me to not think about batting average.
(35:45):
Now we think about batting average. You can't have it
both ways here.
Speaker 13 (35:49):
I have the same argument with Ryan Candy. All the
time he throws a different oh that's a justin ballpark rate.
I'm like, every time you throw a different one at me.
It's just not the way it's supposed to be. So
I'm on your side with that.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
How would you sum up the Mets season?
Speaker 13 (36:08):
Man, biggest disappointment in the sport, you know, to be
first place in June one and to fall apart. Obviously
they can point to the pitching injuries, but I look
at the fact they didn't address it. You know, they
addressed the bullpen, but they didn't get the pitching taken
care of. And you just can't have that payroll, go
out get a player for one hundred, seven hundred and
sixty five million and not make the playoffs. There's twelve
(36:31):
teams in the in the big leagues. In the playoffs,
there's only thirty teams in the league. It just can't happen.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Talking to Harold Reynolds, you can see him MLB tonight
the National pregame show they're on at noon, and throughout
the postseason and the World Series.
Speaker 10 (36:47):
We address and normally I'd have a hoodie on.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Like you, Dan, I know, I know you'd be casual.
If not the Dodgers in the National League, then who.
Speaker 13 (36:58):
Then the Phillies. I think the Phillies are there. If
the Phillies had Wheeler healthy. I think I may lean
even greater to them. Although the Dodgers I think are
a step above everybody else. The Padres will be very interesting.
They'll make it competitive. How the brackets are set up.
I don't know if you dove into that much, but
(37:19):
that really opens the window for that other side, for
those guys to sneak in. Because now the Dodgers win
this round, they play the Phillies, and those are the
best two teams in the National League.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Who's your pick in the American League?
Speaker 10 (37:34):
Uh, the American League. I got Seattle, and that's not
a Homer move, you know.
Speaker 13 (37:38):
It's just the fact that they got the best pitching,
they're playing great ball right now, and I think it's
gonna line up pretty good for the Mariners to win it.
Speaker 10 (37:45):
I think they're the.
Speaker 13 (37:45):
Best team in the American League. If not them, then
I would say the Yankees, and most other people would
pick the Blue Jay. So you got some pretty good
runners and opportunities to make some runs, but I think
the Mariners are the team to be.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Do you think the Angels ever entertain trading Mike Trump?
Speaker 10 (38:01):
I don't know. At this point in time.
Speaker 13 (38:04):
That window might have passed I thought they should have
made that move maybe three or four years ago.
Speaker 7 (38:10):
Now.
Speaker 13 (38:11):
I don't know if Mike's ready to move on or
if already's ready to move him, but I would still
have to look at it if I was the Angels.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Is he still a great player?
Speaker 10 (38:23):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (38:23):
Yeah, he's still a great player. I think we're seeing
him start to get healthy again. I mean, he's still
had twenty plus home runs. He played you know, half
the season really, so I think he's getting back to
where he's healthy and playing. He's still in the right lineup,
a very potent player.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
He's played in three postseason games. That's a shame.
Speaker 10 (38:45):
Shame, shame.
Speaker 13 (38:47):
It's just hard to imagine, especially when I just talked
about with the format now for twelve of the thirty
teams are now going to be in the playoffs and
Mike Trott's only been there three times and that was
under the old format.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, the automated balls and strikes. We had the commissioner
on and he said, all right, we're going to roll
this out just a little bit and we know how
this goes. How long until we have automated balls and
strikes full time? Oh?
Speaker 13 (39:15):
I think that's going to happen right away. They tested
in spring training last year. The players didn't have a
whole lot of pushback. I think, really it'll go full.
That's going to be part of the basic agreement coming up.
You know, when that agreement expires in another year, that's
going to be on the table in conversation. But I
think the players of it liked it. The one thing
(39:37):
we're seeing in baseball. You saw the all new the
new rule changes, with the stolen bases and the pitch
timer and everything else. We have a generation of players
now that have grown up with all those things. Yeah,
played in the minor leagues with a pitch timer and
with the pickoff rules. They played in the minor leagues
with the new ball strikes system. That's what they've grown
(39:59):
up on. So it's not as foreign to the player
as it is maybe to the viewer.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Why is it when we talk best swings in the
game or of all time, they're always left handed hitters.
Speaker 10 (40:11):
I don't know why.
Speaker 13 (40:12):
I have a guess, because you just kind of drop
the bat and it just it's almost like.
Speaker 10 (40:17):
A pretty golf swing.
Speaker 13 (40:19):
But one thing that's happening now in this generation, you
don't hear people say, what a pretty swing.
Speaker 10 (40:25):
You don't hear him.
Speaker 13 (40:26):
Say Aaron Judge has a pretty swing. Cayle Rawley has
a pretty swing. You don't hear that anymore. Because we're
so into ah gotta grunt everything out instead of guys
with just easy, fluid swings. We don't see that a
whole lot anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Ken Griffy Junior the greatest swing in baseball history.
Speaker 10 (40:45):
If you don't say so, he'll come get He's the
greatest swing.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Who would be comparable to his swing in today's game?
It could be all time. Is there another swing that
comes close to that?
Speaker 13 (41:02):
It doesn't come to your mind that easy, that quickly.
Speaker 7 (41:07):
I don't.
Speaker 10 (41:07):
I can't think of anybody else.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Like Paul Merrow had a really good swing.
Speaker 13 (41:11):
Meroo had a nice swing. Uh, there was a number
of guys. Chipper Jones was pretty good from the left side.
You started thinking about guy's swings, But nobody was as
pretty as Griffy. And I think it was because he
had the hat backwards, he had an airring and he
just kind of stood there and watched it too.
Speaker 10 (41:27):
That helps to be able.
Speaker 8 (41:28):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
But right handed hitters like nobody says, pooholes, what a
beautiful swing. Or Mark McGuire or Paul Molletor. It's like, no, what.
Speaker 10 (41:36):
We started doing now is we've kind of spin them around.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I know, see if.
Speaker 10 (41:40):
He was left hand, it didn't be a pretty swing.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Darryl Strawberry had a pretty swing.
Speaker 10 (41:45):
Yes he did, Yes, straw did.
Speaker 13 (41:47):
But there was a lot of guys back in the day,
you know that that had that left handed stroke that
just seemed to work.
Speaker 8 (41:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I remember Paul Molletor had one of the quickest swings,
like through this, through this, like it was so compact,
so quick. It wasn't a beautiful swing. I just remember
watching him. It was like, you know, Bond, nobody's quicker
through the zone than Bonds.
Speaker 10 (42:10):
No, nobody was quicker than Barry.
Speaker 13 (42:12):
And even Barry, they don't say, what a pretty swing, No,
no stride, just to get that bat through the zone
so quick. I love fernantal Tattoosa's finished.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
You Okay, he puts up, he puts.
Speaker 13 (42:24):
A little flair on it even so hail Tani starting
to put some flair on it now.
Speaker 10 (42:29):
You know he's getting Americanized a little bit.
Speaker 13 (42:31):
He's standing there, he's showing some balls. He's standing there
showing people up. He's something though. Man, have you seen
him in person?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah, he's a big guy. Oh my goodness, he's a
big It's like when I saw Yao Ming for the
first time, mm hmm, and he was he was some like.
You know, I thought Shaq was big or Mark Eaton,
and then you see him, I go, oh my god.
Like when I saw Cam Cam Newton is another guy.
I saw Cam in personally. Go kind Lee, what you're
(43:01):
playing quarterback?
Speaker 7 (43:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (43:03):
I was on the beach in Miami one day and
we're walking and all of a sudden, the shadow came.
Speaker 10 (43:08):
Over and it was Shack and I was like, holy
you just keep going.
Speaker 13 (43:14):
I never saw y'all ming, but Shack was enormous, and
then he had all the girth to go with it.
Speaker 10 (43:19):
He was enormous. You know, the diesel, the diesel, come
with the baby diesel.
Speaker 7 (43:23):
You know.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I do my day, Dan Patrick, and shut the hell up.
Uh Okay, if you're the Pirates, do you do anything
with Schemes? If you're Schemes, do you do anything with
the Pirates?
Speaker 13 (43:36):
Well, schemes doesn't have a whole lot of leverage because
that's just kind of the contract.
Speaker 10 (43:40):
If I were the pirates.
Speaker 13 (43:42):
They're gonna hate me for saying this, but we said
it all summer, so I may as well say it again.
I would have pulled a Hearssel Walker trade and I
would have dealt him, and I would have got back
a whole new franchise of players and turned the whole
losing thing around and started winning.
Speaker 10 (43:55):
I just think his.
Speaker 13 (43:56):
Value is so high, and if you're not gonna put
players around him and invest to put that team around him,
then you gotta trade him or else he's gonna be
a free agent. You're gonna go through the same thing
and went through with Garrett Cole. You're gonna go through
the same thing you've been. It's been repeating itself. At
some point you got to flip the franchise and be
able to turn it around.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Good to talk to you.
Speaker 10 (44:17):
Have fun today, all right, DP appreciate your brother.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Thank you, Harold Reynolds.
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