October 2, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan talks about the increased velocity of the fastball, pitch counts, and the evolving development of MLB pitchers. And he’s convinced that we’ll see a 70yd FG in the NFL this season and explains the difference in the balls kickers are allowed to use this season.
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There is no safe like simply Safe. I'm watching yesterday
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and watching last night. I'm fascinated by Mason Miller. He
he is the Padres closer, and when he's on the mound,
he's bringing three digits. It's one hundred miles an hour.
Fifteen total pitches were one hundred or more miles per
hour by the Padres versus the Cubs yesterday. Eleven of
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the fifteen were by Mason Miller. Seven in the seventh inning,
four in the eighth inning, four by Robert Suarez, all
in the ninth inning. They're just bringing in one oh
four point five. On the FM dial. I mean, it's impressive.
And if you wonder why they have a you know
they're going to be a pitch count because there are
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more guys throwing, you know, more than one hundred miles
an hour. Now it I mean it's jumped up almost
five miles per hour. That's incredible. We have more on
that coming up, but you know, I started to look
at just the velocity with the Padres bullpen, they had
fifteen pitches of over one hundred miles an hour. Last
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time that happened the Yankees Game three of the Alds
when they had twenty eight of those pitches. And with Miller,
Miller face nine batters, eight strikeouts and he hits somebody
sixteen of his forty pitches or one hundred miles an
hour or greater. Now, it used to be that you
would have a couple of guys who threw hard. I
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go back to Bob Feller, I go back to Nolan
Ryan and Nolan Ryan, you know, the jugs gun. He
probably threw one hundred and four hundred five miles per hour.
But there is a difference. And I remember we've asked
pitchers before, what's the difference between ninety six and one
hundred and hitters will tell you there is a big
difference with that, But everything is the speed and how
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often I see that, And that's where you'll see guys
get locked in. They'll say, throw me that fastball. All
hit that eventually catch up to that. Breaking ball. That's different.
Breaking ball will withstand the test of time. Fastball they
can turn on it because they'll see it. You see
one hundred mile an hour fastball more often. It used
to be you'd be like, oh my gosh, I don't
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see anybody throwing like that. Now it's commonplace. Now everybody's
built that way. You're encouraged to throw as hard as
you can for as long as you can, and then
they kick you to the curb. Tommy John Surgery, come
on down. Somebody else is going to come on in
fewer innings. Now it's about you get in, throw as
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hard as you can, and then we'll bring in somebody else.
Throw as hard as you can. I always wondered why
pitchers would start out, and I talked to Kurt Shilling
about this many years ago. I said, why do you
throw harder the longer you're in the game. He said, well,
those pitches mean more and I'm loose, like I'm you know,
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you're you're building up momentum. My nickname in high school
was fast but won't last, And that had to do
with pitching as well. Yes it is, and I could
throw really hard, but I couldn't throw, you know, for
a long period of time. It'd be like seven pitches,
be like, man, that guy, you know he can throw hard,
and then all of a sudden, I have a noodle arm.
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After that, these guys come in, they know I got
about fifteen or twenty pitches. That's how long I can go,
and then you'll bring in the next guy. So starting
pitching used to be you were going six or seven
and announcers are shocked, like I'm a moto. He came
back for another inning and the announcers were like, oh,
he's coming back. It's a sixth inning. But it's just
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different now. The days of finesse feels like long gone.
But you still have that breaking ball. That breaking ball
is the great equalizer in my opinion, and you see
that with these guys. You can have a fastball, but
you better have a breaking ball, something off speed, because
if not, they lock in. And that's where you go
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that's one hundred and four mile an hour fastball, and
he took it deep. They can. They're geared for that,
even these pitching machines. When we were at the Super
Bowl and we were at the Giants facility in Skydale
and we asked them, they had the jugs gun down
below the stadium and we went down there to take
BP one day and I said, can you make that
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throw like Clayton Kershaw curveball? And they said yes, like
they've gotten it so that it's not just they're throwing fastballs.
They can throw off speed pitches. They can throw breaking balls,
they can throw sliders. That's what amazed me because it's
like even us. You know, with an eighty five or
ninety mile an hour fastball, you put your bat on it.
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But if you say, hey, I'm not going to tell
you what's coming, and then all of a sudden, you
know you're up there and your legs give out. That's
that's what's still amazing. That's why Clayton Kershaw can still
pitch the way he pitches because he has that breaking ball.
Now you have to keep him on us with a
fastball that is at least in the nineties. But now,
and you're watching these guys like I would too. PAULI
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text me to say, Mason Miller's coming in. I went
over to watch the game, and he looks the part
of a guy who throws one hundred and four mile
an hour. He looks like he could be, you know,
a linebacker. But that's baseball now, and you saw that
yesterday and last night. These guys throw hard for as
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long as they can.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yes, Marvin, remember when Tim Linskin came on the scene
and everyone was like, man, he's so slight. How is
he going to be able to last that long? Because
all these guys, just like you said, Mason Miller looks
like a linebacker.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
You know, these guys got to be big.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Also, well, you still get that guy that defies logic
where you go, how does that guy throw that hard?
And there are certain guys like Pedro Martinez, to me,
is one of the most fascinating pictures of all time,
one of the greatest pictures of all time, one of
the most underrated pictures of all time, because if you
meet him, he slight, but he had that ability. He
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was able to make that ball move, but he also
had velocity. Even when you're around Mo Rivera, Like, you're
standing next to him and I'm going that guy is
the greatest closer of all time, and he doesn't look
like he's a baseball player. It's just like, Oh, what
do you do for a living?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You know, I'm the closer for the Yankees? You know,
enter sand Man. Oh okay, But that's the fascination you
have with baseball. There's certain guys who can do certain
things with the baseball that we can't. But what they're
teaching now is go out there and they've studied. It's physics,
it's probably geometry, algebra, math, all that thrown in there.
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Spin rate, you know, that's why you get that. You
want a little bit of tackiness on the ball, so
you get that spin rate there. Pitchers would complain about
that early in the year, but it's fascinating to watch
it really is.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Yeah, Pauling, That's what I'm curious about. Is it the
natural human development or is it things like less ending
so you could throw harder, more often. Better medical advice,
better workout routines. Because in two thousand and two, the
average fastball Major League Baseball was eighty nine miles per hour.
Now it's ninety four. It's gone up five miles an
hour in less than a generation. Does that mean it's
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going to keep going that way?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
It's hard to know.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I would have to talk to somebody who is in
physiology or smart people.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, see, if you can get somebody at Yale who
can join us this morning, we'll do Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
I think a lot of it is just how good
we've gotten at breaking down the mechanics rather than anything else.
You have such slow motion, you know, and graphics and
technology and all of this stuff that you're able to
understand if you're pushing off at the right angle, you're
doing all of these different things, and the leverage that
your body creates or the torque that it creates to
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throw the ball. I think we've gotten so good at
just figuring that part of it out. I don't know
how much better you can get at it, but I
think that's a big part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
When we go to spring training, or I used to
go to spring training, I always love to see what
pitchers were doing, because you know, hitting hasn't really changed
other than you know, you're swinging up on the ball.
You know you're trying to launch the ball. Angle is
the big one. But with pitchers, there's always these different
kind of routines, exercises they were doing, like they would
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take a towel and then they would you know, have
the pitching motion and they were just you know, holding
onto a towel, snapping the towel. Yeah, And I'm like, wow, okay,
but you're seeing all of these different things. And it
goes back to Mark Pryor when he was with the Cubs, like,
these are things that guys have been doing. And Tom House,
who's a former reliever with the Braves, he's a pitching coach,
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but he's also helped Tom Brady. He helps a lot
of these quarterbacks and how you throw the football, you know,
how you torque, all those things, and teaching a lot
of this modern philosophy. It's it's like the golf swing.
When you look and somebody is hitting the ball less
than three hundred yards, we go, man, what's wrong with him? Okay,
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Now it's you know the shamba hit at three seventy two,
and we go, did he get all of it? Rory
some of these other guys. We're shocked when somebody doesn't
hit it three hundred yards. But that's technology. But that's
also understanding. They're using the ground now. It starts from
the ground up. It's not how fast you can swing
your arms or how fast you move your hips. You know,
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you look at John Rahm, it doesn't even look like
he's finishing his backswing. They've studied this. It is a science.
It's not boy, he's just naturally gifted. Rory's naturally gifted,
so was Tiger. But they did understand how do I
get more distance, how do I get and how do
I compress the ball? The accuracy, all of those things.
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That's what they're doing with every sport. It can be
kicking a soccer ball, kicking a football. In fact, speaking
of which, Vic Fangio. Vic Fangio was talking about kickers
and he compared them to the steroid era in baseball.
Have that for you coming up. Also, Sean Payton is
facing the Eagles this weekend. He defends the toush push.
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I think I said in them. I don't think that's
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a word. I think it's in them. Everyone gets in them. Yeah,
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Football coming up tonight, it'll be the forty nine ers.
They are getting eight and a half at the Rams
over under his forty four and a half. I are
we going back to Mac Jones because Rock Party can't play.
I believe that is the official ruling. Rock Party is
out with the toe injury, but the Niners are getting
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one for the audience.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
We've got a few options here. I think actually we
can put up there too. If we will see a
time where the average miles per hour of a pitch
is at ninety nine sure to go along with Paul's
thought about if it went from eighty nine to nine
four theoretically, right, following the logic of what you're just
talking about, in the next twenty five years, the average
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pitch will be ninety nine miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And how many is that twenty five years from now
or is it longer than that.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Let's say every generation it went up three miles per hour.
We're going to be on this earth for a long
long time.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
When was the average pitch eighty nine miles an hour
twenty five years ago? Two thousand? Okay, so twenty five
years from now it'll be ninety nine miles per hour.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Right, And would the max speed go from one oh
one to one oh five now to one oh nine
one ten in two thousand and fifty.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I'd have to have study somebody who studied, you know,
physiology or kinesiology or whatever it might be. Because it's
like the one hundred meter dash? How much better can
you improve upon that time? And how long has Usain
Bolt had that number? Like, we're not close to that
number yet, I don't can can you get to nine four,
(16:01):
nine three and one hundred meter dash at some point? Yea?
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Or was Usain Bolt and anomaly because most sprinters are
six to two or under. Usained Bolt by being six five.
I'm no physicist, but I've read some stuff about this.
His stride was longer, so every step he took was
two inches longer than the guy next to him at
the same rate of leg speed. So that means he
finishes two meters ahead. Is he the like he's a standalone?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Yeah, we could also put up there. We got two
here from Paul, which is worse ties in sports are
having to wear a tie?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Great question, A fair point. We were one in high school.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I've spent half my life wearing a tie. If you
wear an unbelief like a banger tie, then it's a
great feeling. I kept all of the ties that when
I handed out the Super Bowl trophies. I have them
in here, and you feel if you feel pretty good
when you're out there and you go, all right, this
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good color combination. But you know, wearing a time, I
would wait till the very very last minute when I
did Sports Center to put on the tie, and then
on the way back over after doing Sports Center, you'd
have that tie off. But I remember when I was little,
I had a clip on tie. Even then, I was like,
I had to go to church every morning then have
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to have a clip on tie. And I always thought
if you went to church, I always had to have
a tie on. And then my mom eventually said, you
don't have to wear a tie all the time, and
I said, oh, okay. I think she was trying to
see if I would like going to church a little
more if I didn't have to wear a tie. That
didn't work.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Yeah, on Sports Center, when you took your tie off,
was it all off or did you just slide it
off and keep it tied and hang it up.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I don't really remember.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
No.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I think I just loosened it a little bit, and
then depending on who was watching, I would slide it
off gently, just right.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
If Carl Ravitch is around, yeah, like, hey Carl, check
this out.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Carl would go hey, slower, Yeah, I go, all right, Revy,
I'll tie it again. Yeah, yeah, double windsor.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
I used to work at the clothing store in high school,
so I learned the proper way to tie a tie
with the big dimple in the middle, the proper way
to do the pocket square to make it last out.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Okay, look where I got me?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yes, can anyone hear tie a bow tie?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I think I can. I don't like the way it
looks fair, but it like it looks like I've been
wearing the tie at the reception for five hours when
I put it on, so it kind of looks like, oh,
you had a good time. I haven't even started yet.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Actually tried really hard on this.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
The clip on the clip ons for those I think
still work. Those play like the one when that just
clips on the neck and it's already tied.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with that. Yeah, I have no
sh because people will ask you did you tie that?
I don't know. Just clip it on here. I'm going
to work for that hard all right. So Sean Payton
and the Broncos had the Eagles coming up this weekend,
and Sean Payton was asked about the tush push.
Speaker 10 (19:17):
Yeah, listen, I was one that stood up in favor of.
The reason I stood up in favor of is the
powers to be don't want it for esthetic reasons or
competitive reason, you know, or it's hard to officiate, et cetera.
But I've been involved in those meetings for a long time,
and when all of a sudden, health and safety was
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pulled into that, which which might be the safest play
in football, my bullet nose kind of went up. Look
at the quarterback sneak, and I think credit Philadelphia. I'm
one that looks at it. You know, as long as
the line of scrimmage is clean, it's a well run
quarterback sneak. And when you really evaluate it, it's more
the technique of the sneak than the push.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Those are strong comments for a guy who's going against
the tush push. And we've talked about that ad nauseum
that I have no problem with it. You guys asked
for it, you allowed it. Now it's here, and now
people have a problem with it, get your votes together,
and then get rid of it if you want to.
But I promise you with that quarterback and that offensive line,
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they're still going to be extremely successful. Now. Vic Fangio's
the defensive coordinator of the Eagles, and he was talking
about just how good kickers are, and he brought in
an interesting comparison.
Speaker 11 (20:40):
You know what, you guys have missed not to shoot,
but everybody is. You know, we gave up a sixty
five yard field goal and a fifty eight yard field goal.
These kicking balls that they changed this year have drastically
changed the kicking game field goals in particular. So it's
almost like they need an asterisk here, like it was
(21:03):
the live ball air or the asterisks for those home
runs bonds and so Sam maguire were hitting. You know,
the way they've changed the ball has drastically changed the
field goals different No in years past, the officials would
rub them down or other people would rub them down,
and you play with them. Now the balls are in
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house all week and they kick those balls that they've
had and nobody else touches them.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Which I don't have a problem with if you're the
one using the ball. And then your kicker gets to you.
It goes back to what I've said about the quarterback.
If you want it a certain way, if you want
it a little softer like Tom Brady did, or a
little bit harder, firmer like Aaron Rodgers did. You're the
one that's you know, holding it, throwing it, and if
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your receivers are fine catching it or running backs are
fine with running, then I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You're not.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I don't think you're doing any thing in an nefarious
way like Brady did. Brady lied about it, but you
know the fact that Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers said, I
inflate it more than it needs to be and no
one said a word, no headlines whatsoever. Tom was deflating
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like the inflator doesn't sound as bad as the deflator.
But Aaron Rodgers said, I wanted to be firmer. Brady,
you know, wanted to do it a little bit less
than that. But as far as these balls that are now,
I never understood this as well. When I played high
school basketball, they would give you a brand new basketball
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to start the game, and I'm thinking, why why not
give you a basketball that you've been using? Home team
Home team picked the basketball? Do we want it? Is
the the aesthetics of that's a brand new basketball, and
to be slick, and you know, and by the way,
high school players should have been using an NBA ball
because thicker seems allows you to be able to shoot better.
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I never understood that they gave you a brand new basketball.
So same thing with the football. And those footballs look worn, weathered,
they look like they're you know, they've been broken in, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 10 (23:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
In college football, the teams have their own balls, right,
So say, if it's Army versus Wake Force, there's people
on the sidelines. Army, here's your ball, wake Force, here's
your ball. There's a bunch of ball boys that have
balls that are as the Army local as the Wake
Force logo. So they use their own ball. So I
don't understand why it can't be the same in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's that now all of a sudden, it's the kickers
are ruining the game. All they're doing is kicking. They've
gotten better, they've gotten stronger, And it goes back to
the analytics. It's gotten back to geometry, and it's gotten
back to how do I strengthen my leg okay, And
you know, how do we block if you're kicking a
sixty five yard field goal, Well, that ball is going
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to be lower. You got to make sure you do
your job differently up front. But we're seeing more kicks
are blocked, well, more kicks are blocked. It feels like
because now we have longer kicks, we have no problem.
Like when the ball goes out to the thirty five
yard line, you're thinking, we get two first downs, we're
in field goal range. It didn't used to be that way.
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It was like, man, it's fifty yards and then all
of a sudden it's sixty yards, and then Tom Dempsey
and then it's sixty three yards, and you're thinking, these
guys can kick seventy yards. I think somebody's kicking a
seventy yard field goal this year. But they do it.
You watch them when they practice. Now, there's no rush,
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there's no pressure, but these guys have the leg to
get it that far.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah, Pauline, and conditioning has to be in play.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
If you look at the average kicker just eyeballing it,
they kind of look like football players now and back
in the eighties, the kicker would stand out. He'd have
a gut or you know, he would just be he
was there just to kick and never do anything else,
and it didn't seem like they worked out at all.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
See, I think the thing that's going to be tough
for that is kick Kicking the ball that far is
how low the ball is when it comes off your
foot getting over the line. You know that it's easier
to the longer the field goal is, the lower that
trajectory is that it's easier to block. And I think
that's probably going to be the biggest problem and probably
(25:22):
why you can see them kick seventy yards in practice
but not in a game, because you could just it's
going to hit off somebody's head.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, unless it's the last play of a game. Maybe
you know, even the last play of a half, you
run that risk of somebody blocking it and running it back.
But those are the times when somebody is going to
be attempting a seventy yard field goal. I think that
that's it's inevitable that somebody will get that opportunity.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Yeah, Paul, if you want to compare it to the
three pointer in basketball, it's apples and oranges. But let's
say kicking becomes too easy deep kicks become too easy
the way that the emphasize it.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Good idea, bad idea.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
If you made a field goal worth two points, now
it's a there's less high end of that play, there's
less upside of that play, and you're more likely to
go for it and try to get seven points. I
don't know if that's ever a thing down the road,
but it could be.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, but I don't. I don't believe in penalizing people
being really good at what they're supposed to be really
good at. I imagine you go, you know, guys, unbelievable. Yeah,
we got to do something about it. If Tiger could
talk about that, Yeah, hey, that's not fair, Tiger, you're
hitting the ball too well. Yeah, let's Tiger proof this.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Let's rearrange thousands of trees, dig them up and plant
them somewhere else or something so that then it's.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Easier to yeah, or harder. Yeah, Dylly.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
In that vein of changing the field goal points, don't
you think a safety should be more than two points?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Make it four.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I haven't. I haven't thought about it.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Take one point from the field goal, give it to
the safety.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I would love. Field goals can only take place fifty
yards or further. I love that that's it fifty yards
or further. Other than that, you go for it. You
gotta go for it or you pump. But if you're
going for a field goal, it has to be fifty
yards or more. Yes, Paul, I think I threw.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Out a rule ten years ago to deemphasize kickers. A
starting position player had to handle all your punting and kicking.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
And can you imagine the difference.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Like every team has to have someone on the roster
who plays right guard and con punt.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
What about you get the opposition gets to pick who
they want to.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yes, Marvin, I feel that way about punting. If it's
fourth and under five yards, you gotta go for it.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Okay, let's just get rid of these are fun ideas.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, I mean, punters have gotten really good too, but
it always seems like the average is around forty five
point seven yards. When somebody says, oh man, he's first
team All Pro forty five point seven yards or something.
All right, a couple of phone calls in there. We
will talk about the greatest lineups in baseball history. And
(27:52):
I'm talking about lineups like the Dodgers. They have Otani,
They have Freddie Freeman, they have Mookie having MVPs in
the line How many teams have that luxury and that's one,
two three in the lineup, which is crazy to think about.
And Mookie Betts with four hits as the Dodgers advance.
Andrew and Sarasota. Hi Andrew, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (28:17):
Hey DP, Hey Dennis. That's a quick question for you,
big Bill fan, big Yankee fan. I got a couple
of kids wondering how you guys went about kind of
instilling the value of loving sports and maybe the teams
you guys root for, but kind of letting them go
their own way and make their own decisions about that too.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Well, it's different for me, and thanks for the phone call.
It's a great topic. I had already kind of relinquished
my fandom when I got to Sports Center, So that
was nineteen eighty nine, and I didn't start having kids
until a few years later. And then I said to
my son, whoever you want to root for or root for?
And he started rooting for the Packers and the Red Sox.
(29:00):
The Packers with farv the Red Sox hadn't won anything,
and he's made he's stayed loyal to those those teams.
But I didn't guide him when I did give him
my heads up that with the Red Sox, you're probably
not winning any time soon, maybe in your lifetime, and
he kept saying didn't matter. He was going to be
a Red Sox fan, and he loved the Packers. I
(29:25):
don't know how the fandom started, but he stayed true
to the Packers to this day. But yeah, when you're
if you're a fan of a team that's not very good,
do you hand it to your child? Hand it down
to your child? You know, we're we're a Browns family.
Well you're not going to be a Bengals fan or
(29:46):
a Steeler. You're just not. I don't know if you
get a choice there. I think if you're being if
you're being honest, you're probably saying, hey, you know what,
he or she's going to go through the same mail
that I've gone through. We're going to go through this together. Hey,
when we start to win, we are going to win together.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
Yeah, Paul, I think a lot of kids under ten
years old would pick the team that's dominant right now.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Because it's feel good.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
I'll bet you there's a lot of chiefs fans that
are young people over the past decade. When I was
a kid, of course I'm a Bears fan, but I
would see those Steelers dominating.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
I'm like, man, that looks like a fun team.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
To root for.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
All they do is win a lot of football games.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And I grew up in Zanesville, Ohio, and that was
Cleveland Brown's territory. And then I moved to Cincinnati later
and the Bengals just came to Cincinnati and I thought, Okay,
that's my football team. And I asked my dad. I said,
can I go back to rooting for the Browns And
he said, no, We're Bengals fans. I go, oh my god.
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So the only thing that I enjoyment I got out
of that is I got to go to Bengal. We'd
sneak into the Bengals games and I got to see
the opposition. I would go to see whoever they were playing. Yes, Marv, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
To Paula's point, I grew up a forty nine Ers
fan because in nineteen ninety three, nineteen ninety four they
were really good. Sorry, I didn't want to watch Dave
Brown go to Howard Cross with the Giants every single week,
right so I was like, you know what, I'm a
forty nine Ers fan from here on out.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Dave Brown supplemental draft with the Giants.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
I believe ill supplemental.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Dave Brown supplemental draft. Well, Bernie Cossar was he supplemental
draft as well?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Maybe because he was in the USFL, you're after him.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I think there's been a couple of supplemental that's like
the commissioner's exemp list where you go. I didn't know
that existed, and then all of a sudden, it's the
supplemental draft. Yes, Martin was Chris Carter supplemental draft also.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Got a double check.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Check on that. All right, All right, well, Jacob break
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six off and free shipping. Anybody else in the supplemental Draft?
Was Bernie Cosar in the supplemental Draft?
Speaker 14 (33:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:07):
And so the supplemental draft started back in the seventies
for players who couldn't be in the draft for some reason, eligibility,
whatever it may be, and so teams could draft them.
But then they lost another draft pick, Bernie Coosar nineteen
eighty five by the Browns out of Miami.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
He graduated early. Smart guy Brian Bosworth.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Of Oklahoma was a supplemental draft pick. Chris Carter of
Ohio State Blue Blue, Marvin Yes, suspended before a senior
year for signing with an agent. Supplemental draft. A couple others.
Bobby Humphrey the running back the Broncos, Rob Moore the
wide receiver, Jamal Williams the running back, so Josh Gordon
the wide receiver out of the Browns who was very
(33:46):
good a few years back. A lot of supplemental draft.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Speaking of the Browns, Kevin Stefanski's the head coach, and
he announced that Dylan Gabriel is going to start against
the Vikings.
Speaker 14 (33:58):
From the second he's been here, he's been more working,
very hard, very intelligent young man. He's done a nice job.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Throughout practice this whole season.
Speaker 14 (34:06):
He's been learning how to get yourself ready and understand
the rhythm of an NFL week and what that looks
like as a backup, and obviously now feel like he's
ready that's going as a starter.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, I was surprised on the road in London against
the Vikings. I don't know. Put him in the deep
end of the pool and let's see what he does.
And you know, he has some mobility there, far more
than Flacco does. But I have more mobility, I think
than Joe does. But you know, by all accounts, Dylan
(34:39):
Gabriel has done a very good job picked up the
offense and he gets the ball out quickly, and he's
not somebody trying to extend plays, which is what you
want out of your rookie quarterback. Take what is there
and then when it's not there, lived to call another play. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
Dylan Gabriel had a pretty good quote too.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
I think it was from this week where he said,
basically he was like, it's that Joe Flacco's job to
teach me how to do this.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
It's not his job to be a mentor. It's my
job to ask questions. Yeah, you know, that's a pretty
good shift in mindset that we don't normally hear.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Yes, Paul and Dylan Gabriels played a lot of football.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
He played six years of college three at UCF, two
at Oklahoma, one at Oregon. He had sixty four college
starts experience case he's like twenty four years old.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, him and Jade and Daniels bow Knicks. I think
they had maybe the most starts in college football history.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
But six years is the max.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, I think after come on, come on six years, he.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Had one hundred and fifty five touchdowns in college. That's
got to be the record by far.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Is it the record by far?
Speaker 6 (35:44):
I think it has to be because he was a starter
for six years. He had the one year at UCF
where he got injured.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
He might be the all time record.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
He's got more thirty touchdown seasons in college and like
the Bears having their history, Yeah, but that's not saying anything.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
They still haven't had a four thousand yard passer. Are
they going to get that this year? I think they
will with Caleb Waims. So he gets the start against
the Minnesota Vikings. That game is in London, and I
know a lot's been made about Shador Sanders. There's nothing
to talk about until he plays. That's all. This is
(36:24):
a clickbait media Forest Rex Ryan very animated being critical.
You know, it's low hanging fruit. I want to be
fair to the kid, you know, and I have you know,
people that I talk to and they say that he's
done a good job. I don't know about him studying
or not studying, but I got to be fair to
(36:46):
what I How I cover this, Let me wait till
he starts a game. If there's a reason why he's
not playing, or he's the third string quarterback, or he's
not going to be on the roster. Okay, then i'd
cover that, but the other stuff, you know, does he
He's been the star everywhere he's gone and now you're
not a star. And that's really hard, especially at that position.
(37:10):
He wants attention, he wants to be the focal point.
He wants to be the star, and he's not. And
I think that that can sometimes show up in immaturity.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yes, Marvin, And I'm sure it's got to be tough
for him because last season he probably thought he was
going to be a first round draft pick, top five pick, right,
so it's got to be a very humbling experience. Wait,
I'm the third I'm a fifth round draft pick, and
now I'm the third string quarterback.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Yeah, Dylan, I mean people were like shocked that he
didn't get named the starter, but he was the last
guy in the depth chart, Like they're just going in order.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, they're trying to make this more than what it is.
And look, this is the approach with some shows and
some networks. But I got to be fair to the kid,
and I hope he gets the opportunity. I don't know
if he's any good. I voted for him third in
the Heisman. I thought that much of him when I
watched him play. But if he can't play in the NFL,
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maybe it's with another team. And you know, at that position,
you gotta be mature. You can't be a goofball. Those
days are long gone. They're paying you a lot. These
guys get a lot of money. You can't be a
goofball immature. You know. That's where I hope that he
(38:30):
reads the room and gets the opportunity to be able
to play, because that's all you want for any of
these guys, just get a chance to play. Dylan Gabriel
is getting a chance to play sooner than I thought.
But I do think that he can play. I don't
know if he's a franchise quarterback, but I do think
that he can play because I saw him play in
three different places and he was successful.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yes, still, have you noticed that that's kind of the
trend now that it's actually more attractive for a quarterback
to play six years in college as opposed to trying
to jump early because out of any position a lot
more you can get reps under you the better.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, but this has to do with COVID and those
those days are done. You know the bonus year is
due to COVID. We won't have this again. Well, hopefully
we don't have COVID again. David in Ohio, Hi David,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (39:19):
Dan?
Speaker 13 (39:20):
I got a right tomorrow's headline today, rams wide receivers
go off. Whoka Nakua Matata needs no worries unless you
try to cover him.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Thank you, Dan, A little wordy, but thank you David.
Derek and Wisconsin. Hi Derek, what's on your mind?
Speaker 15 (39:41):
Hey?
Speaker 13 (39:41):
Dan? How are you doing great? Three two thirty five. Hey,
So it's my birthday today and in the.
Speaker 15 (39:49):
Vein of me being a giving person, I wanted to
get back to you. In the NFL, I have solved
the overtime role on how we can make these games
go quicker and be more engaging. So if you get
the ball and receive it a kick a field goal,
the other team just has to go for a touchdown.
If you get the ball, score a touchdown and kick
an extra point, the team then that receives the ball
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would have to go down, score a touchdown and go
for two. If the first team gets the ball, scores
a touchdown and goes for two games over. Second team
doesn't get to touch it. They're gonna make for an
awesome game.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Well, thank you, Derek. I like sudden death. If you
get to overtime, all bets are off, you roll the
dice and I it feels like a participatory you know situation. Hey,
he got it, and now you have to get the
ball too. Hey, Josh didn't get to have the ball
(40:44):
in overtime. Don't go into overtime. And then it's just
too many rules. They never subtract. They always ad they do.
That's the NFL way. You got the ball, Now he
gets the ball. You had the ball four quarters. He
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had the ball four quarters. Peter King's going to join us.
Peter reached out yesterday and he goes, am, I the
only person who likes ties I go in football. He
goes yeah. I said, all right, well letn't you come
on the show. He'll join us in twenty minutes from now.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh, we got a busy day coming up today and
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down a couple of wide receivers as well, and the
Niners a wounded animal. They are getting eight and a half.
Speaking of gambling, Dylan is in for Fritzi. Fritzy taking
the day off due to religious reasons and Dylan part
of our gambling podcast sitting in the chair taking over
the responsibilities. Dylan, good to have you.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Thank you Dan. We actually have a wounded animal parlay
later in the show.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Would you explain what a wounded animal parlay is?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yes, the forty nine ers being the wounded animal. Okay,
we're kind of digging into the depths of the depth chart.
You're going to pull out some hopeful winners.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Now, what does that mean the wounded animal that you're
looking for individual bets with the Niners.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
The whole team's pretty wound, pretty wounded, so it can
be kind of anything for you related.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
We'll have that for you coming up, by the way.
The Gambling podcast available later on today after the show
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There is no safe like simply Safe. I'm watching yesterday
(02:47):
and watching last night. I'm fascinated by Mason Miller. He
he is the Padres closer, and when he's on the mound,
he's bringing three digits. It's one hundred miles an hour.
Fifteen total pitches were one hundred or more miles per
hour by the Padres versus the Cubs yesterday. Eleven of
(03:08):
the fifteen were by Mason Miller. Seven in the seventh inning,
four in the eighth inning, four by Robert Suarez, all
in the ninth inning. They're just bringing in one oh
four point five. On the FM dial. I mean, it's impressive.
And if you wonder why they have a you know
they're going to be a pitch count because there are
(03:30):
more guys throwing, you know, more than one hundred miles
an hour. Now it I mean it's jumped up almost
five miles per hour. That's incredible. We have more on
that coming up, but you know, I started to look
at just the velocity with the Padres bullpen, they had
fifteen pitches of over one hundred miles an hour. Last
(03:51):
time that happened the Yankees Game three of the Alds
when they had twenty eight of those pitches. And with Miller,
Miller face nine batters, eight strikeouts and he hits somebody
sixteen of his forty pitches or one hundred miles an
hour or greater. Now, it used to be that you
would have a couple of guys who threw hard. I
(04:12):
go back to Bob Feller, I go back to Nolan
Ryan and Nolan Ryan, you know, the jugs gun. He
probably threw one hundred and four hundred five miles per hour.
But there is a difference. And I remember we've asked
pitchers before, what's the difference between ninety six and one
hundred and hitters will tell you there is a big
difference with that, But everything is the speed and how
(04:36):
often I see that, And that's where you'll see guys
get locked in. They'll say, throw me that fastball. All
hit that eventually catch up to that. Breaking ball. That's different.
Breaking ball will withstand the test of time. Fastball they
can turn on it because they'll see it. You see
one hundred mile an hour fastball more often. It used
to be you'd be like, oh my gosh, I don't
(04:57):
see anybody throwing like that. Now it's commonplace. Now everybody's
built that way. You're encouraged to throw as hard as
you can for as long as you can, and then
they kick you to the curb. Tommy John Surgery, come
on down. Somebody else is going to come on in
fewer innings. Now it's about you get in, throw as
(05:19):
hard as you can, and then we'll bring in somebody else.
Throw as hard as you can. I always wondered why
pitchers would start out, and I talked to Kurt Shilling
about this many years ago. I said, why do you
throw harder the longer you're in the game. He said, well,
those pitches mean more and I'm loose, like I'm you know,
(05:39):
you're you're building up momentum. My nickname in high school
was fast but won't last, And that had to do
with pitching as well. Yes it is, and I could
throw really hard, but I couldn't throw, you know, for
a long period of time. It'd be like seven pitches,
be like, man, that guy, you know he can throw hard,
and then all of a sudden, I have a noodle arm.
(06:01):
After that, these guys come in, they know I got
about fifteen or twenty pitches. That's how long I can go,
and then you'll bring in the next guy. So starting
pitching used to be you were going six or seven
and announcers are shocked, like I'm a moto. He came
back for another inning and the announcers were like, oh,
he's coming back. It's a sixth inning. But it's just
(06:26):
different now. The days of finesse feels like long gone.
But you still have that breaking ball. That breaking ball
is the great equalizer in my opinion, and you see
that with these guys. You can have a fastball, but
you better have a breaking ball, something off speed, because
if not, they lock in. And that's where you go
(06:46):
that's one hundred and four mile an hour fastball, and
he took it deep. They can. They're geared for that,
even these pitching machines. When we were at the Super
Bowl and we were at the Giants facility in Skydale
and we asked them, they had the jugs gun down
below the stadium and we went down there to take
BP one day and I said, can you make that
(07:09):
throw like Clayton Kershaw curveball? And they said yes, like
they've gotten it so that it's not just they're throwing fastballs.
They can throw off speed pitches. They can throw breaking balls,
they can throw sliders. That's what amazed me because it's
like even us. You know, with an eighty five or
ninety mile an hour fastball, you put your bat on it.
(07:29):
But if you say, hey, I'm not going to tell
you what's coming, and then all of a sudden, you
know you're up there and your legs give out. That's
that's what's still amazing. That's why Clayton Kershaw can still
pitch the way he pitches because he has that breaking ball.
Now you have to keep him on us with a
fastball that is at least in the nineties. But now,
and you're watching these guys like I would too. PAULI
(07:51):
text me to say, Mason Miller's coming in. I went
over to watch the game, and he looks the part
of a guy who throws one hundred and four mile
an hour. He looks like he could be, you know,
a linebacker. But that's baseball now, and you saw that
yesterday and last night. These guys throw hard for as
(08:11):
long as they can.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yes, Marvin, remember when Tim Linskin came on the scene
and everyone was like, man, he's so slight. How is
he going to be able to last that long? Because
all these guys, just like you said, Mason Miller looks
like a linebacker.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
You know, these guys got to be big.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Also, well, you still get that guy that defies logic
where you go, how does that guy throw that hard?
And there are certain guys like Pedro Martinez, to me,
is one of the most fascinating pictures of all time,
one of the greatest pictures of all time, one of
the most underrated pictures of all time, because if you
meet him, he slight, but he had that ability. He
(08:46):
was able to make that ball move, but he also
had velocity. Even when you're around Mo Rivera, Like, you're
standing next to him and I'm going that guy is
the greatest closer of all time, and he doesn't look
like he's a baseball player. It's just like, Oh, what
do you do for a living?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You know, I'm the closer for the Yankees? You know,
enter sand Man. Oh okay, But that's the fascination you
have with baseball. There's certain guys who can do certain
things with the baseball that we can't. But what they're
teaching now is go out there and they've studied. It's physics,
it's probably geometry, algebra, math, all that thrown in there.
(09:27):
Spin rate, you know, that's why you get that. You
want a little bit of tackiness on the ball, so
you get that spin rate there. Pitchers would complain about
that early in the year, but it's fascinating to watch
it really is.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Yeah, Pauling, That's what I'm curious about. Is it the
natural human development or is it things like less ending
so you could throw harder, more often. Better medical advice,
better workout routines. Because in two thousand and two, the
average fastball Major League Baseball was eighty nine miles per hour.
Now it's ninety four. It's gone up five miles an
hour in less than a generation. Does that mean it's
(10:01):
going to keep going that way?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
It's hard to know.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I would have to talk to somebody who is in
physiology or smart people.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, see, if you can get somebody at Yale who
can join us this morning, we'll do Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
I think a lot of it is just how good
we've gotten at breaking down the mechanics rather than anything else.
You have such slow motion, you know, and graphics and
technology and all of this stuff that you're able to
understand if you're pushing off at the right angle, you're
doing all of these different things, and the leverage that
your body creates or the torque that it creates to
(10:36):
throw the ball. I think we've gotten so good at
just figuring that part of it out. I don't know
how much better you can get at it, but I
think that's a big part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
When we go to spring training, or I used to
go to spring training, I always love to see what
pitchers were doing, because you know, hitting hasn't really changed
other than you know, you're swinging up on the ball.
You know you're trying to launch the ball. Angle is
the big one. But with pitchers, there's always these different
kind of routines, exercises they were doing, like they would
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take a towel and then they would you know, have
the pitching motion and they were just you know, holding
onto a towel, snapping the towel. Yeah, And I'm like, wow, okay,
but you're seeing all of these different things. And it
goes back to Mark Pryor when he was with the Cubs, like,
these are things that guys have been doing. And Tom House,
who's a former reliever with the Braves, he's a pitching coach,
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but he's also helped Tom Brady. He helps a lot
of these quarterbacks and how you throw the football, you know,
how you torque, all those things, and teaching a lot
of this modern philosophy. It's it's like the golf swing.
When you look and somebody is hitting the ball less
than three hundred yards, we go, man, what's wrong with him? Okay,
(11:52):
Now it's you know the shamba hit at three seventy two,
and we go, did he get all of it? Rory
some of these other guys. We're shocked when somebody doesn't
hit it three hundred yards. But that's technology. But that's
also understanding. They're using the ground now. It starts from
the ground up. It's not how fast you can swing
your arms or how fast you move your hips. You know,
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you look at John Rahm, it doesn't even look like
he's finishing his backswing. They've studied this. It is a science.
It's not boy, he's just naturally gifted. Rory's naturally gifted,
so was Tiger. But they did understand how do I
get more distance, how do I get and how do
I compress the ball? The accuracy, all of those things.
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That's what they're doing with every sport. It can be
kicking a soccer ball, kicking a football. In fact, speaking
of which, Vic Fangio. Vic Fangio was talking about kickers
and he compared them to the steroid era in baseball.
Have that for you coming up. Also, Sean Payton is
facing the Eagles this weekend. He defends the toush push.
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We'll have that for you coming up. We got a
lot of things to get to today. Your phone call
is always welcome. We'll settle on a poll question. We'll
discuss that and the greatest lineups in baseball history. And
I'm talking about not Hall of famers lineups that have
MVP winners in them. We'll talk about that as well.
I think I said in them. I don't think that's
(13:20):
a word. I think it's in them. Everyone gets in them. Yeah,
out them, in them. All right, we'll take a break.
We're back after this Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (14:12):
Football coming up tonight, it'll be the forty nine ers.
They are getting eight and a half at the Rams
over under his forty four and a half. I are
we going back to Mac Jones because Rock Party can't play.
I believe that is the official ruling. Rock Party is
out with the toe injury, but the Niners are getting
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eight and a half eight seven seven to three DP
show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com and Twitter handle on
TP show all right, seat and poll question for hour
one for the audience.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
We've got a few options here. I think actually we
can put up there too. If we will see a
time where the average miles per hour of a pitch
is at ninety nine sure to go along with Paul's
thought about if it went from eighty nine to nine
four theoretically, right, following the logic of what you're just
talking about, in the next twenty five years, the average
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pitch will be ninety nine miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And how many is that twenty five years from now
or is it longer than that.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Let's say every generation it went up three miles per hour.
We're going to be on this earth for a long
long time.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
When was the average pitch eighty nine miles an hour
twenty five years ago? Two thousand? Okay, so twenty five
years from now it'll be ninety nine miles per hour.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Right, And would the max speed go from one oh
one to one oh five now to one oh nine
one ten in two thousand and fifty.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I'd have to have study somebody who studied, you know,
physiology or kinesiology or whatever it might be. Because it's
like the one hundred meter dash? How much better can
you improve upon that time? And how long has Usain
Bolt had that number? Like, we're not close to that
number yet, I don't can can you get to nine four,
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nine three and one hundred meter dash at some point? Yea?
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Or was Usain Bolt and anomaly because most sprinters are
six to two or under. Usained Bolt by being six five.
I'm no physicist, but I've read some stuff about this.
His stride was longer, so every step he took was
two inches longer than the guy next to him at
the same rate of leg speed. So that means he
finishes two meters ahead. Is he the like he's a standalone?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Yeah, we could also put up there. We got two
here from Paul, which is worse ties in sports are
having to wear a tie?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Great question, A fair point. We were one in high school.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I've spent half my life wearing a tie. If you
wear an unbelief like a banger tie, then it's a
great feeling. I kept all of the ties that when
I handed out the Super Bowl trophies. I have them
in here, and you feel if you feel pretty good
when you're out there and you go, all right, this
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good color combination. But you know, wearing a time, I
would wait till the very very last minute when I
did Sports Center to put on the tie, and then
on the way back over after doing Sports Center, you'd
have that tie off. But I remember when I was little,
I had a clip on tie. Even then, I was like,
I had to go to church every morning then have
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to have a clip on tie. And I always thought
if you went to church, I always had to have
a tie on. And then my mom eventually said, you
don't have to wear a tie all the time, and
I said, oh, okay. I think she was trying to
see if I would like going to church a little
more if I didn't have to wear a tie. That
didn't work.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Yeah, on Sports Center, when you took your tie off,
was it all off or did you just slide it
off and keep it tied and hang it up.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I don't really remember.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
No.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I think I just loosened it a little bit, and
then depending on who was watching, I would slide it
off gently, just right.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
If Carl Ravitch is around, yeah, like, hey Carl, check
this out.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Carl would go hey, slower, Yeah, I go, all right, Revy,
I'll tie it again. Yeah, yeah, double windsor.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
I used to work at the clothing store in high school,
so I learned the proper way to tie a tie
with the big dimple in the middle, the proper way
to do the pocket square to make it last out.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Okay, look where I got me?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yes, can anyone hear tie a bow tie?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I think I can. I don't like the way it
looks fair, but it like it looks like I've been
wearing the tie at the reception for five hours when
I put it on, so it kind of looks like, oh,
you had a good time. I haven't even started yet.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Actually tried really hard on this.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
The clip on the clip ons for those I think
still work. Those play like the one when that just
clips on the neck and it's already tied.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with that. Yeah, I have no
sh because people will ask you did you tie that?
I don't know. Just clip it on here. I'm going
to work for that hard all right. So Sean Payton
and the Broncos had the Eagles coming up this weekend,
and Sean Payton was asked about the tush push.
Speaker 10 (19:17):
Yeah, listen, I was one that stood up in favor of.
The reason I stood up in favor of is the
powers to be don't want it for esthetic reasons or
competitive reason, you know, or it's hard to officiate, et cetera.
But I've been involved in those meetings for a long time,
and when all of a sudden, health and safety was
(19:38):
pulled into that, which which might be the safest play
in football, my bullet nose kind of went up. Look
at the quarterback sneak, and I think credit Philadelphia. I'm
one that looks at it. You know, as long as
the line of scrimmage is clean, it's a well run
quarterback sneak. And when you really evaluate it, it's more
the technique of the sneak than the push.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Those are strong comments for a guy who's going against
the tush push. And we've talked about that ad nauseum
that I have no problem with it. You guys asked
for it, you allowed it. Now it's here, and now
people have a problem with it, get your votes together,
and then get rid of it if you want to.
But I promise you with that quarterback and that offensive line,
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they're still going to be extremely successful. Now. Vic Fangio's
the defensive coordinator of the Eagles, and he was talking
about just how good kickers are, and he brought in
an interesting comparison.
Speaker 11 (20:40):
You know what, you guys have missed not to shoot,
but everybody is. You know, we gave up a sixty
five yard field goal and a fifty eight yard field goal.
These kicking balls that they changed this year have drastically
changed the kicking game field goals in particular. So it's
almost like they need an asterisk here, like it was
(21:03):
the live ball air or the asterisks for those home
runs bonds and so Sam maguire were hitting. You know,
the way they've changed the ball has drastically changed the
field goals different No in years past, the officials would
rub them down or other people would rub them down,
and you play with them. Now the balls are in
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house all week and they kick those balls that they've
had and nobody else touches them.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Which I don't have a problem with if you're the
one using the ball. And then your kicker gets to you.
It goes back to what I've said about the quarterback.
If you want it a certain way, if you want
it a little softer like Tom Brady did, or a
little bit harder, firmer like Aaron Rodgers did. You're the
one that's you know, holding it, throwing it, and if
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your receivers are fine catching it or running backs are
fine with running, then I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You're not.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I don't think you're doing any thing in an nefarious
way like Brady did. Brady lied about it, but you
know the fact that Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers said, I
inflate it more than it needs to be and no
one said a word, no headlines whatsoever. Tom was deflating
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like the inflator doesn't sound as bad as the deflator.
But Aaron Rodgers said, I wanted to be firmer. Brady,
you know, wanted to do it a little bit less
than that. But as far as these balls that are now,
I never understood this as well. When I played high
school basketball, they would give you a brand new basketball
(22:39):
to start the game, and I'm thinking, why why not
give you a basketball that you've been using? Home team
Home team picked the basketball? Do we want it? Is
the the aesthetics of that's a brand new basketball, and
to be slick, and you know, and by the way,
high school players should have been using an NBA ball
because thicker seems allows you to be able to shoot better.
(23:03):
I never understood that they gave you a brand new basketball.
So same thing with the football. And those footballs look worn, weathered,
they look like they're you know, they've been broken in, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 10 (23:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
In college football, the teams have their own balls, right,
So say, if it's Army versus Wake Force, there's people
on the sidelines. Army, here's your ball, wake Force, here's
your ball. There's a bunch of ball boys that have
balls that are as the Army local as the Wake
Force logo. So they use their own ball. So I
don't understand why it can't be the same in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's that now all of a sudden, it's the kickers
are ruining the game. All they're doing is kicking. They've
gotten better, they've gotten stronger, And it goes back to
the analytics. It's gotten back to geometry, and it's gotten
back to how do I strengthen my leg okay, And
you know, how do we block if you're kicking a
sixty five yard field goal, Well, that ball is going
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to be lower. You got to make sure you do
your job differently up front. But we're seeing more kicks
are blocked, well, more kicks are blocked. It feels like
because now we have longer kicks, we have no problem.
Like when the ball goes out to the thirty five
yard line, you're thinking, we get two first downs, we're
in field goal range. It didn't used to be that way.
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It was like, man, it's fifty yards and then all
of a sudden it's sixty yards, and then Tom Dempsey
and then it's sixty three yards, and you're thinking, these
guys can kick seventy yards. I think somebody's kicking a
seventy yard field goal this year. But they do it.
You watch them when they practice. Now, there's no rush,
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there's no pressure, but these guys have the leg to
get it that far.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah, Pauline, and conditioning has to be in play.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
If you look at the average kicker just eyeballing it,
they kind of look like football players now and back
in the eighties, the kicker would stand out. He'd have
a gut or you know, he would just be he
was there just to kick and never do anything else,
and it didn't seem like they worked out at all.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
See, I think the thing that's going to be tough
for that is kick Kicking the ball that far is
how low the ball is when it comes off your
foot getting over the line. You know that it's easier
to the longer the field goal is, the lower that
trajectory is that it's easier to block. And I think
that's probably going to be the biggest problem and probably
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why you can see them kick seventy yards in practice
but not in a game, because you could just it's
going to hit off somebody's head.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, unless it's the last play of a game. Maybe
you know, even the last play of a half, you
run that risk of somebody blocking it and running it back.
But those are the times when somebody is going to
be attempting a seventy yard field goal. I think that
that's it's inevitable that somebody will get that opportunity.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Yeah, Paul, if you want to compare it to the
three pointer in basketball, it's apples and oranges. But let's
say kicking becomes too easy deep kicks become too easy
the way that the emphasize it.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Good idea, bad idea.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
If you made a field goal worth two points, now
it's a there's less high end of that play, there's
less upside of that play, and you're more likely to
go for it and try to get seven points. I
don't know if that's ever a thing down the road,
but it could be.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, but I don't. I don't believe in penalizing people
being really good at what they're supposed to be really
good at. I imagine you go, you know, guys, unbelievable. Yeah,
we got to do something about it. If Tiger could
talk about that, Yeah, hey, that's not fair, Tiger, you're
hitting the ball too well. Yeah, let's Tiger proof this.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Let's rearrange thousands of trees, dig them up and plant
them somewhere else or something so that then it's.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Easier to yeah, or harder. Yeah, Dylly.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
In that vein of changing the field goal points, don't
you think a safety should be more than two points?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Make it four.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I haven't. I haven't thought about it.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Take one point from the field goal, give it to
the safety.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I would love. Field goals can only take place fifty
yards or further. I love that that's it fifty yards
or further. Other than that, you go for it. You
gotta go for it or you pump. But if you're
going for a field goal, it has to be fifty
yards or more. Yes, Paul, I think I threw.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Out a rule ten years ago to deemphasize kickers. A
starting position player had to handle all your punting and kicking.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
And can you imagine the difference.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Like every team has to have someone on the roster
who plays right guard and con punt.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
What about you get the opposition gets to pick who
they want to.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yes, Marvin, I feel that way about punting. If it's
fourth and under five yards, you gotta go for it.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Okay, let's just get rid of these are fun ideas.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, I mean, punters have gotten really good too, but
it always seems like the average is around forty five
point seven yards. When somebody says, oh man, he's first
team All Pro forty five point seven yards or something.
All right, a couple of phone calls in there. We
will talk about the greatest lineups in baseball history. And
(27:52):
I'm talking about lineups like the Dodgers. They have Otani,
They have Freddie Freeman, they have Mookie having MVPs in
the line How many teams have that luxury and that's one,
two three in the lineup, which is crazy to think about.
And Mookie Betts with four hits as the Dodgers advance.
Andrew and Sarasota. Hi Andrew, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (28:17):
Hey DP, Hey Dennis. That's a quick question for you,
big Bill fan, big Yankee fan. I got a couple
of kids wondering how you guys went about kind of
instilling the value of loving sports and maybe the teams
you guys root for, but kind of letting them go
their own way and make their own decisions about that too.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Well, it's different for me, and thanks for the phone call.
It's a great topic. I had already kind of relinquished
my fandom when I got to Sports Center, So that
was nineteen eighty nine, and I didn't start having kids
until a few years later. And then I said to
my son, whoever you want to root for or root for?
And he started rooting for the Packers and the Red Sox.
(29:00):
The Packers with farv the Red Sox hadn't won anything,
and he's made he's stayed loyal to those those teams.
But I didn't guide him when I did give him
my heads up that with the Red Sox, you're probably
not winning any time soon, maybe in your lifetime, and
he kept saying didn't matter. He was going to be
a Red Sox fan, and he loved the Packers. I
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don't know how the fandom started, but he stayed true
to the Packers to this day. But yeah, when you're
if you're a fan of a team that's not very good,
do you hand it to your child? Hand it down
to your child? You know, we're we're a Browns family.
Well you're not going to be a Bengals fan or
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a Steeler. You're just not. I don't know if you
get a choice there. I think if you're being if
you're being honest, you're probably saying, hey, you know what,
he or she's going to go through the same mail
that I've gone through. We're going to go through this together. Hey,
when we start to win, we are going to win together.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
Yeah, Paul, I think a lot of kids under ten
years old would pick the team that's dominant right now.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Because it's feel good.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
I'll bet you there's a lot of chiefs fans that
are young people over the past decade. When I was
a kid, of course I'm a Bears fan, but I
would see those Steelers dominating.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
I'm like, man, that looks like a fun team.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
To root for.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
All they do is win a lot of football games.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And I grew up in Zanesville, Ohio, and that was
Cleveland Brown's territory. And then I moved to Cincinnati later
and the Bengals just came to Cincinnati and I thought, Okay,
that's my football team. And I asked my dad. I said,
can I go back to rooting for the Browns And
he said, no, We're Bengals fans. I go, oh my god.
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So the only thing that I enjoyment I got out
of that is I got to go to Bengal. We'd
sneak into the Bengals games and I got to see
the opposition. I would go to see whoever they were playing. Yes, Marv, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
To Paula's point, I grew up a forty nine Ers
fan because in nineteen ninety three, nineteen ninety four they
were really good. Sorry, I didn't want to watch Dave
Brown go to Howard Cross with the Giants every single week,
right so I was like, you know what, I'm a
forty nine Ers fan from here on out.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Dave Brown supplemental draft with the Giants.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
I believe ill supplemental.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Dave Brown supplemental draft. Well, Bernie Cossar was he supplemental
draft as well?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Maybe because he was in the USFL, you're after him.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I think there's been a couple of supplemental that's like
the commissioner's exemp list where you go. I didn't know
that existed, and then all of a sudden, it's the
supplemental draft. Yes, Martin was Chris Carter supplemental draft also.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Got a double check.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Check on that. All right, All right, well, Jacob break
settle on our poll question. Your phone calls coming up
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six off and free shipping. Anybody else in the supplemental Draft?
Was Bernie Cosar in the supplemental Draft?
Speaker 14 (33:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:07):
And so the supplemental draft started back in the seventies
for players who couldn't be in the draft for some reason, eligibility,
whatever it may be, and so teams could draft them.
But then they lost another draft pick, Bernie Coosar nineteen
eighty five by the Browns out of Miami.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
He graduated early. Smart guy Brian Bosworth.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Of Oklahoma was a supplemental draft pick. Chris Carter of
Ohio State Blue Blue, Marvin Yes, suspended before a senior
year for signing with an agent. Supplemental draft. A couple others.
Bobby Humphrey the running back the Broncos, Rob Moore the
wide receiver, Jamal Williams the running back, so Josh Gordon
the wide receiver out of the Browns who was very
(33:46):
good a few years back. A lot of supplemental draft.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Speaking of the Browns, Kevin Stefanski's the head coach, and
he announced that Dylan Gabriel is going to start against
the Vikings.
Speaker 14 (33:58):
From the second he's been here, he's been more working,
very hard, very intelligent young man. He's done a nice job.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Throughout practice this whole season.
Speaker 14 (34:06):
He's been learning how to get yourself ready and understand
the rhythm of an NFL week and what that looks
like as a backup, and obviously now feel like he's
ready that's going as a starter.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, I was surprised on the road in London against
the Vikings. I don't know. Put him in the deep
end of the pool and let's see what he does.
And you know, he has some mobility there, far more
than Flacco does. But I have more mobility, I think
than Joe does. But you know, by all accounts, Dylan
(34:39):
Gabriel has done a very good job picked up the
offense and he gets the ball out quickly, and he's
not somebody trying to extend plays, which is what you
want out of your rookie quarterback. Take what is there
and then when it's not there, lived to call another play. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
Dylan Gabriel had a pretty good quote too.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
I think it was from this week where he said,
basically he was like, it's that Joe Flacco's job to
teach me how to do this.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
It's not his job to be a mentor. It's my
job to ask questions. Yeah, you know, that's a pretty
good shift in mindset that we don't normally hear.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Yes, Paul and Dylan Gabriels played a lot of football.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
He played six years of college three at UCF, two
at Oklahoma, one at Oregon. He had sixty four college
starts experience case he's like twenty four years old.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, him and Jade and Daniels bow Knicks. I think
they had maybe the most starts in college football history.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
But six years is the max.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, I think after come on, come on six years, he.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Had one hundred and fifty five touchdowns in college. That's
got to be the record by far.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Is it the record by far?
Speaker 6 (35:44):
I think it has to be because he was a starter
for six years. He had the one year at UCF
where he got injured.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
He might be the all time record.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
He's got more thirty touchdown seasons in college and like
the Bears having their history, Yeah, but that's not saying anything.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
They still haven't had a four thousand yard passer. Are
they going to get that this year? I think they
will with Caleb Waims. So he gets the start against
the Minnesota Vikings. That game is in London, and I
know a lot's been made about Shador Sanders. There's nothing
to talk about until he plays. That's all. This is
(36:24):
a clickbait media Forest Rex Ryan very animated being critical.
You know, it's low hanging fruit. I want to be
fair to the kid, you know, and I have you know,
people that I talk to and they say that he's
done a good job. I don't know about him studying
or not studying, but I got to be fair to
(36:46):
what I How I cover this, Let me wait till
he starts a game. If there's a reason why he's
not playing, or he's the third string quarterback, or he's
not going to be on the roster. Okay, then i'd
cover that, but the other stuff, you know, does he
He's been the star everywhere he's gone and now you're
not a star. And that's really hard, especially at that position.
(37:10):
He wants attention, he wants to be the focal point.
He wants to be the star, and he's not. And
I think that that can sometimes show up in immaturity.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yes, Marvin, And I'm sure it's got to be tough
for him because last season he probably thought he was
going to be a first round draft pick, top five pick, right,
so it's got to be a very humbling experience. Wait,
I'm the third I'm a fifth round draft pick, and
now I'm the third string quarterback.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Yeah, Dylan, I mean people were like shocked that he
didn't get named the starter, but he was the last
guy in the depth chart, Like they're just going in order.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, they're trying to make this more than what it is.
And look, this is the approach with some shows and
some networks. But I got to be fair to the kid,
and I hope he gets the opportunity. I don't know
if he's any good. I voted for him third in
the Heisman. I thought that much of him when I
watched him play. But if he can't play in the NFL,
(38:07):
maybe it's with another team. And you know, at that position,
you gotta be mature. You can't be a goofball. Those
days are long gone. They're paying you a lot. These
guys get a lot of money. You can't be a
goofball immature. You know. That's where I hope that he
(38:30):
reads the room and gets the opportunity to be able
to play, because that's all you want for any of
these guys, just get a chance to play. Dylan Gabriel
is getting a chance to play sooner than I thought.
But I do think that he can play. I don't
know if he's a franchise quarterback, but I do think
that he can play because I saw him play in
three different places and he was successful.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yes, still, have you noticed that that's kind of the
trend now that it's actually more attractive for a quarterback
to play six years in college as opposed to trying
to jump early because out of any position a lot
more you can get reps under you the better.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, but this has to do with COVID and those
those days are done. You know the bonus year is
due to COVID. We won't have this again. Well, hopefully
we don't have COVID again. David in Ohio, Hi David,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (39:19):
Dan?
Speaker 13 (39:20):
I got a right tomorrow's headline today, rams wide receivers
go off. Whoka Nakua Matata needs no worries unless you
try to cover him.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Thank you, Dan, A little wordy, but thank you David.
Derek and Wisconsin. Hi Derek, what's on your mind?
Speaker 15 (39:41):
Hey?
Speaker 13 (39:41):
Dan? How are you doing great? Three two thirty five. Hey,
So it's my birthday today and in the.
Speaker 15 (39:49):
Vein of me being a giving person, I wanted to
get back to you. In the NFL, I have solved
the overtime role on how we can make these games
go quicker and be more engaging. So if you get
the ball and receive it a kick a field goal,
the other team just has to go for a touchdown.
If you get the ball, score a touchdown and kick
an extra point, the team then that receives the ball
(40:11):
would have to go down, score a touchdown and go
for two. If the first team gets the ball, scores
a touchdown and goes for two games over. Second team
doesn't get to touch it. They're gonna make for an
awesome game.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Well, thank you, Derek. I like sudden death. If you
get to overtime, all bets are off, you roll the
dice and I it feels like a participatory you know situation. Hey,
he got it, and now you have to get the
ball too. Hey, Josh didn't get to have the ball
(40:44):
in overtime. Don't go into overtime. And then it's just
too many rules. They never subtract. They always ad they do.
That's the NFL way. You got the ball, Now he
gets the ball. You had the ball four quarters. He
(41:06):
had the ball four quarters. Peter King's going to join us.
Peter reached out yesterday and he goes, am, I the
only person who likes ties I go in football. He
goes yeah. I said, all right, well letn't you come
on the show. He'll join us in twenty minutes from now.
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