October 7, 2025 • 43 mins
DP reacts to an impressive win for the Jaguars over the Chiefs. Yankees radio PxP voice Dave Sims defends his subdued Blue Jays grand slam call despite Fritzy's criticism and shares how a local radio commentator is supposed to reflect the mood of fans – both positive and negative. Chris "Mad Dog" Russo says without David Tyree, Eli Manning wouldn't be in the HOF, and doubles down on prime Matthew Stafford over Russell Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Radio recapping the game last night. The Chiefs used to
be the NFL's gold standard. You had stability, you had
brilliant you had Patrick Mahomes, you had Andy Reid, you
had a defense that was among the league's best. But
last night they got clipped thirty one twenty eight. They're
now two and three. So for the first time in
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years like this feels like two and three. Uh oh,
not two and three. They're the Chiefs. They'll be able
to come back. Now, do I think getting a couple
of wide receivers back would certainly help. You know, you
don't have reliable receivers there. But still, Jacksonville did what
you want a team, a playoff team or a playoff
worthy team do, and that is you're down, you rely
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on your quarterback and you pull out the win. So
that's back to back wins. You've beaten the Niners. In
the Chiefs, you're four and one. Trevor Lawrence looks steady, defense, opportunistic.
Liam Cohen the new head coach, he looks battle tested.
As for the Chiefs, I guess slipping a little bit,
and maybe the Jags are rising a little bit. But
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either way, that gap between Kansas City and the rest
of the AFC not as wide as it used to be.
And there were a couple of moments in there where
Mahomes did what you thought Mahomes would do. I thought
they had a terrible kickoff by Harrison Butker that put
Jacksonville at the forty yard line, and then Trevor Lawrence
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made a couple of big plays and Jacksonville is now
four and one, tied with Buffalo and tied with the
Colts with the best record in the NFL. All right, Seaton,
what's pole question we're going to go with. By the way,
the Jags four and one start the best start through
five games since two thousand and seven when they started
four and one. Stat of the Day brought to you
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by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan
Patrick Show. Who was on the seven team. It's like
Mark Brunell on there, Yeah, Paul, I know.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Fred Taylor was on there. He was their start. I
just looked up David.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Garrard, Oh, pro bowler, David Garrard.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, he kind of came out of nowhere, had a
breakout year.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, David Garard, I think that was his only Pro Bowl.
But he played well. He was tough. Uh Seaton poll question.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well, we're just putting up the weekly Power and Dower rankings.
Very exciting. Your options for the power rankings are Detroit, Philly, Buffalo, Tampa,
Green Bay, Denver, Indie, and making. I think their first
appearance would be the Jacksonville Jaguars off of a big win.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Congratulations you guys on the top eight. Wow, those are
the power rankings. Who's the best team in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Is that what you're we are We're asking right now
who the most powerful team in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Are? Okay? Or and then we're gonna have the Dower
rankings as well.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yes, your Dower rankings. You can also vote on those.
Right there, we have let's see the Jets, Titans, Dolphins, Giants, Raiders, Saints, Bengals,
and Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yes. Wait, should the Bengals be on there? With two wins?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
They've been outscored by seventy one points this year. The
Bengal very.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Dowerful, very dowerful, very dowerful. Dang dang, all right, the
best team in Pro football right now is who Marvin
the Philadelphia Eagles all right, Paul, the Lions, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
God, I'm still gonna lean towards the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
All right, Seaton, I'm gonna say Destois. I'm gonna say
Detroit as well, because they had a quality loss. Well,
they lost to Green Bay at Green Bay, but they
look formidable offensively. I think that was our big question. Oh,
they lost their offensive coordinator and you get Aiden Hutchinson back,
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and that team is That team seems to be great
on both sides of the ball. The Eagles, I still
have questions. There's something going on there. I don't want
to rely on Jalen Hurts to beat the opposition through
the air. I think when there's a combo platter, that's
when the Eagles are great, the defense consistent, then they
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can be the best team in football. But you know,
Saquon Barkley not running the ball and you're going to
throw it thirty eight times. Okay, that's not the formula.
And we certainly saw that. They've allowed teams to stay around.
Now the Chiefs did that. They've made a tradition out
of close games. Everybody is within one score, but they
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pull those games out. You can't continue to do that.
Now they have, they've had sustained greatness, but sometimes it
catches up with you. And you had the stumble Rooskie
with Trevor Lawrence last night, and this is how it
sounded when he scored the game winner.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Trevor under center Heyce looked and he fell down.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Tremor fell down on the play charge to.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Play run cut down.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
He got up.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
It's I got Tapa Tenny, Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I'd like to know how that voice sounds today. That's
courtesy of the Jags Radio Network. Trevor Lawrence his foot
got stepped on by his center. He falls down. Chris Jones,
the great defensive lineman for the Chiefs, can't find him.
It's like I somehow lost a six' five. Guy and
Then lawrence, stumbles gets back, up and THEN i think
(05:57):
the defense is, like, well wait a, minute is the play?
Dead like what's going on? Here and he dives in
for the game.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Winner, yeah it's gonna Said todd will be happy to
know that was actually The chiefs call of that, touchdown.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
Showing some.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Enthusias it's a big moment in the.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Game it's the.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Game the Stumble rooskie of social media is calling it
With Trevor. Lawrence, hey but that's what you want out
of these. GUYS i think we talked About Trevor. Lawrence
is he ever going to live up to the?
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Hype?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Uh in parentheses. Bust he's had a couple of good,
years you, know but you're still waiting for. Him you,
know he should be knocking on the. Door being in
the top five. Quarterback he was can't miss going to.
College he was can't miss going into THE. Nfl, now,
GRANTED i got a gradym on a curve here because
(06:50):
he went through Coaches Urban meyer. SITUATION i still don't
think they've surrounded him with great weapons. There, Yes.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Paulie, yeah his second year in a, league twenty twenty
two Post Urban meyer, mess he was. Awesome twenty five,
touchdowns eight. Picks he was in THE mvp race the
past three. Years though he's like a sixty three, percent
sixty two percent, passer quite a few. Interceptions even this
year he's four and, One but he's a sixty percent,
passer six, touchdowns five. Picks it's not, pretty, ever it's
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not easy and.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Smooth.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Ever, no by the, way THE NFL mvp, Odds i've
been Saying Baker mayfield should be the. Leader he's. Not
according to, DraftKings Josh allen sizeable Over Patrick. Mahomes this
is as of. TODAY i DON'T i Mean mahomes is
your second. Favorite Baker mayfield has been great and they're
(07:42):
a very good. Team Justin herbert is ahead Of Baker.
Mayfield Matthew stafford is Behind. Mayfield then Love golf Hurts Jaden.
Daniels But i'm surprised at The Patrick mahomes placement there number. Two,
Overall baker's got ten, touchdowns one. Interception they have played really.
(08:04):
Well they could have won The eagles. Game you go
To seattle in a shootout and you. Win i'm surprised at.
That All, Right baseball yesterday and last, night defense saved
The dodgers beating The phillies four to. Three they're up
two to. Zero now going back To Los, angeles The
brewers roll The cubs seven to. Three you Got mariners
(08:25):
at The tigers, Today Blue jays at The yankees as.
Well all, right eight seven to seven THREE dp show
email ADDRESS dp At danpatrick dot, Com twitter handle at dp.
Show so we have power rankings and we Have dour
rankings as, well and let me see IF i have
anything else. Here the Odds World series odds just got.
(08:45):
Those The dodgers are your big. Favorites then it's The,
brewers then The Blue, Jays, Mariners, Tigers, Yankees, phillies and
The cubs trailing they pulling up the rear at plus
thirty five hundred The dodgers or plus one fifty. Five all,
right any other pole questions that we're thinking. About by the,
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there seaton many other pole, questions then many other pole.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Questions let's See paully sent this one Over Trevor lawrence
is a.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Good, quarterback going to be great or a? DISAPPOINTMENT i
would say he's good. QUARTERBACK i don't know if he's
going to be great if we remove a.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Good, quarterback because that's kind of the middle of the road, answer, Right,
YEAH i think he's gonna be. Good, okay what if
he's either going to be great or?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Disappointing right? NOW i would say. Disappointing he's shown. GLIMPSES
i think that's the problem sometimes when you see guys
where you, go why do you like this all the. Time,
well that's the difference between difference between good and, great
and it's the. Consistency it's weak in and week, out being,
(10:34):
threatening being, good coming up with great, moments and we
just haven't seen that from. Him, yeah SO i would
SAY i would lean towards a, disappointment but only because
the expectation level was through the roof for him and
should have. Been but you, know maybe it took a
while to get through The Urban meyer. Phase, Yeah, paul.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
It's almost apples And. Orgies he came in Like Andrew
luck in, college where there's just no doubt and it's
been a nice career it's apples and orgues to Like Zion,
Williamson Zion. Widgeon willison's career when he's healthy is.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Nice he's.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Good he's a good.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Player he's not.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Spectacular what else seen the?
Speaker 9 (11:17):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Well and you, KNOW i mean He Trevor lawrence came
into college a sure. Thing he didn't even go into
THE nfl was sure that he was in. College everybody was, waiting, like,
man it's too bad he's got to play here because
he could just jump right to the next. Level, man
talk about a guy who needed a season like this, Though.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well just a, game, Hole let's start with a game
that takes a little bit of the heat off of.
Him but you, know you're four and, one but you're
in a division where are The? Colts for? Real are
The texans gonna come back after what they did Against?
Baltimore so maybe maybe you have a little bit more
of a competitive. Division usually that's you, know THE Nfc
(11:55):
south and THE Afc south are just not. Good Here's
Trevor lawrence on his thoughts during his go ahead touchdown
on the Stumble rooski just.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Panic honestly BECAUSE i was trying to get up to
get the. Ball out of my hands to the. CLOCK i,
mean we didn't have any, timeouts so just. TRY i
was really going to just stand up and like launch
it out of the back of the end. Zone but
THEN i had a little bit of a, lane SO
i took it and you, know scored from.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
There it was interesting to see. Him HE'S i think
he shocked that he fell. Down nobody tackled. Me i'm
going to get back. Up now what DO i? Do
and all of a, sudden to the left he saw
there was an opening, there AND i think he was
just kind of, GOING i THINK i can get To
i'm going to score a. Touchdown. Yes.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
God he actually stumbled twice on that. Play when is it?
Speaker 10 (12:44):
Enough but be able to gather himself after two trips
and not give up on the play was pretty, impressive all.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Right when we come, back by the, way preseason basketball last,
night Ow Cooper flagg was in action last. Night Victor
Wimbin yama in action last. Night cooper looked. Awesome. Awesome
wemby is going to be he, Is he's going to
take over THE. Nba are you calling that right? Now
(13:11):
i'm calling Calling victor Woman, yum it's going to be a.
PLAYER i think he's going to be THE. Mvp how's
THAT'S i don't know how good the team's going to.
BE i think that he. Is i'm just watching somebody that.
TALL i think he grew in the off. Season he
might be seven to. Six but he's handling the, ball
he's great, passes he's shooting threes. AGAIN i mean he
(13:36):
is a better skilled version of The joker as far as.
HANDLE i, Mean joker still is the best player in the.
Game But wemby is he's, here he is.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Him, Yes, paul if you have, Room i'd love to
get on The wemby bus because he looks like he
got the twenty pounds That zion.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Lost he looks.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Thicker it's a good work for.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Everybody And Cooper flagg looked. Great he was the point
guard for a while last. Night some a block, shot
some great, passes hit a couple of threes as. Well,
YES i know it's only, preseason BUT i was kind
of having a good time with.
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Podcasts marvin part of his job his. Responsibilities every morning
he'll look for interesting. Soundbites it could be a play
by play, call it could be an answer from a
coach or a manager or a. Player and So marvin
played this On, monday and to our, Surprise fritzy had
a problem With Dave simms Called dave is The yankee
(15:24):
broadcaster And Vlad guerrero just hit A Grand. Slam Blue
jays scored ten and thirteen runs in the first two.
Games so this is the, call and then we'll bring
In Dave. Sims so go, Ahead Marv.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Carrera that edition a two to one.
Speaker 12 (15:41):
Count he's looking on the load right, here two One.
Pitt he did big drive left field grand.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Slam So Dave sims kind enough to join us The
yankees radio play by play voice On. Wfan, DAVE i
don't know if you heard about this big. Controversy you
know social media. Circles but you've been a broadcaster a
long long, time And fritzi had a. Problem, fritzy would you?
(16:10):
Explain first of, all great to see, You, dave but
under these Certain, Yeah, fritzi would you like to Tell
davey that the problem you had with his? CALL i
will preface by saying THAT i have to.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Preference, NO i know a lot of the, time and
we worked together in the early, nineties AND i will
say WHEN i heard, that at the MOMENT i, was
it made me, think how does a broadcaster that's doing
a local teams, game how do you juggle a good,
play especially in the?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Playoffs you, off this is.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Embarrassing what do you?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Want what do you want me to show? Him?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Todd tell him what you?
Speaker 6 (16:51):
SAID i.
Speaker 10 (16:52):
WAS i was disappointed because it sounded, like you, KNOW
i don't how do you juggle The you, know you
don't want to be a homer and obviously it's against The,
yankees but it's a big home.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Run did you show a little?
Speaker 10 (17:01):
MORE i don't know if enthusiasm is probably not the exact,
word but that's a big play in a playoff. Game
it happens to be against your team that you're calling games.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
For so how do you capture?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
That or HOW i have to finish my?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Son?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
No, no you know you've had an. OPPORTUNITY i didn't
finish my thought your word? Thought, No, No i'm not
at All you had a. Chance, Okay, dave here was
the thing you had the. Call fritzy thought you should
have been more enthusiastic because even though it was The Blue,
jays it was A Grand slam in the, postseason and
he was surprised that you weren't. Enthusiastic hey, man we're
(17:35):
down five.
Speaker 12 (17:36):
Nothing we got our clocks tune the day. Before it
had gone at the page two in game. Two here
right at that, moment down five to, nothing and glad
he's been hot as a, pistol AND i could see it.
Coming i've been around baseball long, enough played it long,
Enough dan yet like he, did certainly not at the highest,
level BUT i know my baseball you could feel that.
(17:58):
Coming And i'm not going to sit here as A
yankee announcer go, hey woll you, Know Bro grant slap
and we're, down nye nothing come. On you, Know i'm
capturing the mood Of yankee. Fans, okay.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
The on hom if you, want But i'm bringing the
same emotion that those folks are having at.
Speaker 12 (18:21):
Home AND i also you, know in the immortal words
of h you, Know Race, scott who's one of the
great minimalists in our business doing play by, play you,
know Star dollar.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Touchdown that was my baseball version of.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
It, YEAH i understood it that you're kind of you
And Susan waldman are sort of prefacing that something bad
could happen Because vlad is you, know he's locked, In
so you kind of led us up to the. Moment
and it was basically calling a shot and, gone, yeah,
Gone and that was the mood. There but do you
(18:54):
do you ever fight the urge of but you, know
in fairness to What fritzie was, saying you know the.
Usiasm it is a, playoff but you are calling for The,
yankees the home, Team and If i'm tuning, in the
last THING i want to hear is Damn dave sounded
really excited That vlad hit A Grand slam in the.
Postseason well to that, Point, dan you know it's.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
INTERESTING i love. Baseball we all love. It we love
it for the.
Speaker 12 (19:17):
Excitement, uh you, know the juice that you get at
a baseball, game particularly at this time of, year but
anytime they're the regular.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
SEASON i appreciate great.
Speaker 12 (19:25):
Plays, now if a guy makes a heck of a play,
defensively or makes a great catch the, outfield or he
hits a bad pitch and he hits it out all
out Of Ladd. Senior you Know i'm gonna, exclaim BUT
i Clearly i'm pulling for The. Yankees and, now Granted
i'm not doing a national broadcast WHERE i got to
be trying to stay down the, MIDDLE i have no problem,
going hey, MAN i GOT i got N y in my.
(19:48):
HEART i had SEE i in my, HEART i got
N y in my. Heart Now i'm for these guys to.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Pull you, know pull through with the.
Speaker 12 (19:53):
VICTORY i have a ginormous, respect you, know for the,
game AND i. DON'T i don't THINK i did it
anything that, was you, know out of the ordinary by any.
Start as a matter of, fact most of you, know
family and friends and what. People i've heard from him and,
said he sort of captured the. Moment that's how we.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Felt how about when you're the local announcer and you're
critical of your, team like when when do you when
is that window or door open? That, YEAH i should
be able to be critical with the team that's employing.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Me you have to be you tell the, Truth tell the.
Truth you. Know we've had.
Speaker 12 (20:30):
Pictures i've seen a couple of pictures this year where
it's like the pen relays to get from the dugout
to the batter spox because there is there's no fear
of getting maybe not, drilled but pitched. Inside you want
to put batters in a, comfortable uncomfortable. Position And I've
(20:51):
i've criticized some guys on the ball club for, that
And i've done in the. Past guy makes a bad,
play you, know tries to make a super star play
out of A sometimes we should just eat the, Ball he's,
saying because the fans are saying the same. Thing i'm
telling the truth And i'm not making anything. Up bad
plays a bad, play good, plays a good.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Play if The yankees get, swept finish that, sentence it's gonna,
Stink it's gonna.
Speaker 12 (21:20):
Hurt toronto's a very good ball. CLUB i have a
tremendous respect for. Him AS i like to call, them
the non bold face names that they have on their ball.
Club you know about you Know, vladdie you know About George,
springer but you're talking About David, schneider Alahndro Kirk.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
KHY i JUST i love that.
Speaker 12 (21:37):
Guy he's five, eight two sixty five and he's a great.
Hitter Ernie, Clement Miles, Straw Addison. Barger these are guys
that you, know the, mainstream not even a lot of
the mainstream baseball. Fans they don't even know who these guys.
Are And i've seen, them now what ten twelve times this.
YEAR i know how good they. Are AND i think
(21:58):
the And Kevin gosman Was outstaye and The Savage kid
yesterday the other, day.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
It's off the. Chart no hit ball for five and a,
THIRD i, mean well eleven, Punching SO i, mean come,
on so it would be a very big.
Speaker 12 (22:09):
Disappointment at, Disappointment yankees tied With toronto for the type
of the third best record in, baseball and if they get,
swept that would just be.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Terried who's going to wear? This if they get? Swept
who gets the? Blame?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Oh you pick a lot of. PEOPLE i don't want
to leave anybody. OUT i don't.
Speaker 12 (22:31):
KNOW i you know WHEN i WHEN i did my,
top WHEN i was on a talk show radio AT
fa in many moons, AGO i was big into that
category SINCE i moved in to play by player all
these last few. Years i'm not picking up brick bats
or eggs and throwing. STUFF i, mean the team was,
constructed it's a home run hitting, team and they've been
(22:53):
out hit a home, Run so what is it eight
to one and fourteen three in the playoff in the
postseason then not hitting home? Runs and certainly the inning
that will live in infamy was the sixth inning game
one basis, loaded nobody out and score one run on
a baseloaded walk that should have been at minimum of
three run a three run. Inning SO i mean the,
(23:15):
PLAYERS i guess you'd have to say any players don't.
Performed they didn't.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Perform but you know, what it ain't over one team
and the seventeen team came from. Behind that's What that's
What i'm hanging my hat on right.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Now you worked In seattle for a long time with
The mariners and now with The. Yankees who is YOUR
mvp in The American?
Speaker 12 (23:33):
LEAGUE i went With, judge BUT i got no beef
If calf goes with. IT i went With judge because
he leads to nineteen. Categories, Yes Cal catcher, runs the
whole pitching staff does a great. Job he hit sixty
freaking home.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
RUNS i get.
Speaker 12 (23:49):
THAT i get, That But judge's overall worth nineteen. Categories he's,
leading and about four or five others he's right. Below
AND i just think that that carries a heck of
a lot of weight on and that led the way
on a team that hits a ton of home, runs
and he hit fifty home, runs and the fact that
what is? It won the batting title and hit fifty
(24:11):
plus home. Runs third guy to do, It fox And.
Mantle so but, AGAIN i THINK i think it's gonna
be a close.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
VOTE i really.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Do, YEAH i do. Too any last words For, fritzie
your former, friend former.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Friend No broncos beat my eagle. Son i'm probably more
mad at him about that than. Then, Yeah fi's gonna.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Be, enthusiastic. THOUGH i want you to think about, this
if you, know are you going to overcompensate with your
call tonight that if we hits?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
All why WOULD i do?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
THAT i, KNOW i just you know the, pressure the pressure.
Here fritzie's in your head all my, years, Man i've Had.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I've had a lot worse voices in my head Than.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Fritzy have fun, Tonight, Dave, Thanks, hey any?
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Pleasure, Hey, dan thanks a. Lot good to see, him,
Man And, hey a load of.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
It.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Dan that's way to go. Boys you guys are.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
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Super bowl between The giants and The. Broncos, chris good
to see you. Again finish this. Sentence if The yankees get, swept.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
What, yeah big.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Embarrassment good Job. Danny why's a?
Speaker 6 (25:59):
Pleasure was going? NOWHERE i think you could have made a.
Speaker 13 (26:02):
Case if they had lost The Red sox, again then
maybe despite his contract, extension you could have made that.
Case you, know he's had a lot of. Injuries he
navigated the team pretty. Well good job there by Beating.
Boston you, know maybe they ran into a buzzsail. Here you,
Know i'm The yankees will probably chuck it up to you,
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know they were in a. Hole next year they got
the young pitcher In, shittler throw in Cole. Back you
still Have wrdon sitting there With. Freed you know they'd
be a little better. Off but, again this would be
another year where The yankees, don't you, know go they
here's the bottom.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
Line since two thousand and, nine they won One World series.
Game that's. IT i Mean you can debate this anytime you.
Speaker 13 (26:46):
Want this is The, yankees who have the biggest payroll
in baseball and right there with The, dodgers and they
won One World series game in fifteen, years and chances
all they won't win another one this.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Year BECAUSE i do think you AND i probably.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
You love the.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
BASEBALL i think The Blue jays will probably figure out a.
Speaker 13 (27:01):
Way to win another, game and then The yankees is
going to lose the divisional series To toronto and that
is going to.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Sting BUT i don't think there's going to be any drastic.
Speaker 13 (27:10):
CHANGES i think they're relatively pleased with how the year
went based on Losing Coal. Boone the fans don't Like,
boone but The yankee brass loves, them so From, matthew
he's a good representative for them of you, know his
good media. Guy he sends the message, correctly he listens
to what they wanted to, do so he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
EITHER i think they're chalking. Up they ran into a
buzzsaw in His Blue jay.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
TEAM i mentioned this in the first hour of the.
Show there have been one hundred and eighty nine pitches
of at least one hundred miles per hour in the. Postseason.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Wow, Wow, yes.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
That's where we're. Headed that is that is analytics, Correct.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
That is, Analytics. Danny and there's too many.
Speaker 13 (27:55):
Relievers you, know it was so much fun to See
scruble Against cleve and earlier in that series because he
went seven eight, Innings crochet against The yankees when he
pitched him to the bottom of the eighth last. Week
the entertainment aspect of, baseball we've lost. It you AND
i grew up With gibson with Sever you maybe With,
(28:16):
kofax not, me but you maybe With kofax where you
saw these big pitchers go out there and have to
navigate a lineup the third time. Food Jim palmer's another
one catfish hunter and that was always fun to see
the Big hall Of, famer how he gets.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Through you, know that big, three four five in the
lineup in the eighth and ninth. Inning and you don't
have that. ANYMORE i, mean, look what look of what
has occurred?
Speaker 13 (28:39):
HERE i mean The yankees took out heel bottom of
the third the other night with two. OUTS i mean
the kid had a no hitter about the top of
the sixth the other day In toronto in a sixth
inning and they took him out of the game after
seventy eight.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Pitches boyd got taken out.
Speaker 13 (28:55):
Of the game against the In game one Against San
diego after fifty eight.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
PITCHES i, mean it's just the way it.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Is it's.
Speaker 13 (29:00):
Unfortunate they've ruined the aspect of, it the entertainment aspect of.
It you AND i and most fans can't pick. Out
you can't pick these relievers out of a. Lineup yet
they dominate these games in a, sixth, seventh, eighth or ninth.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
Inning you, know it is the way it. Is it's you,
Know baseball needs to fix. IT i don't know how
they're going to do.
Speaker 13 (29:18):
It the analytics have become more important than the entertainment
aspect of the, sport and it's a. Problem that's why
it was good to see The yankee right hander pitch
in the eighth, inning ninth inning In game, three when
eight innings in that.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Game there's something. Different it was something fun.
Speaker 13 (29:32):
Again the great, pitcher the, starter watching him perform late
in these playoff games when you.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
AND i were growing up was.
Speaker 13 (29:41):
Theater and we've lost out in the sport and it's
a major, problem and baseball knows.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
It i'm not sure what they can do about, it
though they know, it they know it's a.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Problem but you, know The dodgers starting staff has been.
Great it's their bullpen that's. Terrible terrible they're starting and
that has been, unbelievable, right and that's you, know.
Speaker 13 (30:01):
That's the weakness that The dodgers. HAVE i was lose
surprised last. Night h'm bringing a kid From japan a
little earlier in that ninth. Inning you think he wanted
to try trying to see if he can get three
outs with a three to one, lead so to get
him back on. Track But snell comes out after six.
Innings but if The dodgers have a, buggaboo that's. It
if The dodgers are going to, lose it's going to
be that you, know, eighth, ninth seventh innings where they're
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going to lose a terrible.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Game and last night could have been that.
Speaker 13 (30:26):
GAME i mean last, NIGHT i, mean let's face, It
snell comes, out they got a thorn up in, lead
and you, know if they don't make.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
A great player in that, bunt who knows they might
lose our.
Speaker 13 (30:37):
Historically bad game blowing a four one lead in the
ninth and maybe they show some vulnerability to get a little.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Nervous philadelphia feels good about. Themselves they get to split it,
home and you, know we have a situation where The
dodgers gonna beet picked.
Speaker 13 (30:49):
Off now you, know they're up too. Old they're going
to figure out a way to win another game and
they're gonna win that. Series The dodgers, issue as you just,
said is that short relief in that, seventh, eighth and ninth.
Inning and now we'll see maybe this twenty one year
old is gonna be the. Answer they spend the game
two on and fifty, million and he did a great
job In game, one so maybe they have corrected that.
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TOO i, mean The dodgers are you, know they. Don't
they're a great. TEAM i, Mean, dan think about their.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Team they are top three and the lineup is. Tremendous
then you Got.
Speaker 13 (31:19):
Taoska ernandez Kick hernandez gets big, Hits Will, smith who's.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Hurt we all know how good he. Is let's throw
On Max.
Speaker 13 (31:27):
Muncy and then they have you, know guys like Snell,
yamamoto Old Tani.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Oh and by the, way Here's glasnow making two of.
Them mallion a pitch him In game. FOUR i, mean
they are a, great great. Team let's be.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Honest talking to. You christopher Mad Dog russo Mad Dog
unleashed On SIRIUS Xm channel eighty, two and he's one
of the host co hosts of ESPN's First. TAKE i
thought about you on this topic that we use championships
as a metric for greatness for quarterbacks AND nba, players
but we don't do that for baseball. Players Why, YEAH i.
Speaker 13 (32:00):
Mean because you, Know Ted williams never won a, title
but he only gets up four times a, Game and
is it his fault that they never had any tremendous starting.
Pitching you, Know cob never won a title With detroit
and he's one of the all time. Greats never won a,
title lost a couple Of World. Series, YEAH i mean
it is a little. TRICKY i, mean you Know, madden
he never won a championship with The. YANKEES i think
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it's because the pitcher dominates so. Much so if we
look at baseball from from an eight man, perspective we
don't look at.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
It that way because there's not as much impact they
can have on a.
Speaker 13 (32:35):
Game with the baseball debate about the Great hall Of
famer in the big. Spot we do it to pitching
because he's going to get the ball a couple of
times in a short. Series and that is WHERE i
have always had some trouble With, kershaw Because kershaw he's
won a. TITLE i, Mean kershaw is a tremendous regular season,
pitcher but if you look At kershaw in the, postseason.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
He's been very.
Speaker 13 (32:58):
Mediocre he's got a four four to FIVE, Era he's
given up thirty home runs in his postseason, starts and
he has never been a great postseason. Performer that is
the one guy that you can label like the, quarterback
like the center in, basketball that for whatever the, reason
his regular season prowess doesn't translate into the. Postseason and
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he did win a title in twenty twenty in the
in the pandemic and Beat, tampa and he pitched pretty
well in that.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Run he pitched good In game.
Speaker 13 (33:31):
Five but we don't look at it the same way
because the everyday Player, danny as you, know doesn't have
the same influence on a game as the starting pitcher.
Has so when we look at it in, baseball if
you want to grade.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
The starting you, Know maddix was never great in the. Postseason.
Speaker 13 (33:49):
No, three seven four lifetime era never great in the,
postseason and that's why a.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Guy like, Smokes and that's why a guy like you,
know to a certain degree.
Speaker 13 (33:58):
Shilling that's that's why you know you'd like to have
them in a big game because you're confidence in them
in a big. Spot their regular season isn't as, good
but you know in a big game you can rely on.
It SO i think it's more the pitcher that you
discuss more than the everyday.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
PLAYER i got into it With Peter. King we kind
of went back and forth on The hall Of fame
and we were talking, about you, know that Is Russell
wilson playing himself out of The hall Of, Fame AND i,
said you, Know Matthew stafford has one Super bowl win
AND i think he was a pro bowler one. Time
russ got to Two Super bowls and he was A
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pro bowler ten. Times so his regular season stats are
better Than Eli. Mannings but so it Feels manning's going.
In people don't debate, that But russ is playing his
way out of The hall Of. Fame do you?
Speaker 13 (34:50):
Agree, yeah that's a very that's going to be a
very close. VOTE i think that pass hurts him. Too
the interception against The. Patriots you, know With malcolm bum
one of the.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Worst it Hurts Pete.
Speaker 13 (35:02):
Carroll it's one of the worst players of all, time
and he throws a pick which wouldn't won A Super.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
BOWL i think that is a little bit of a.
Factor you, know he's been on a million. Teams.
Speaker 13 (35:10):
Now you, Know denver didn't work, Well The giants hasn't worked,
Well pittsburgh didn't work, well ended poorly In. SEATTLE i
think that's a problem. TOO i think your point About
stafford is. Fair he's very underrated. HISTORICALLY i, mean he
was on a Bad detroit. TEAM i, understand you, Know
god played well for The, lions but he was on
a Bad lions.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Team he's done a great job for The. Rams he
plays well in big.
Speaker 13 (35:33):
Games you know last year they had The eagles beat
he played, great played well in The Super, bowl played
well two years ago In detroit in the playoff. Game
stafford's very underrated, historically and he's going to be A
hall Of. Famer And, Manning danny is about five. Games
let's be. Honest manning is about a game in two
games In Green. Bay it's about a game In San,
francisco and it's a two games Against. Brady that Is
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manning's career now five at games Beat, brady especially the
second one you, know got beat up against The niners was,
great you, Know Green bay and minus two degree.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Weather he out played far he and he won two.
Titles so and he did it In New, york which
you know is a big factor.
Speaker 13 (36:16):
Too very few quarterbacks outside Of, plunkett you know who
didn't get he's not going to make The hall Of.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
Fame but if you win Two Super, bowls chances all
you're gonna make. It and he did it In New,
york and he Beat brady.
Speaker 13 (36:28):
Twice but his, career if you look At manning and
you'd be fair about, it his career comes down to five.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Games now they're postseason. Games they come down to five.
Speaker 13 (36:36):
Games wilson's a better regular season quarterback Than, manning but
not the postseason. Success stafford is a better quarterback Than,
manning but not the postseason per success. Too and you
AND i probably if my life came down to, IT
i would definitely Take stafford Over.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Manning would you Take wilson Over? Manning game the win field?
Life who would you Take wilson Or. Manning, Hmmm i'd
probably Take. MANNING i probably.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Would, well let me throw this.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
OUT i wouldn't take it to.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Myself If David tyree doesn't make that, Catch, chris they
don't win the. Game, yeah so like that's he didn't
go to The hall Of. FAME i agree with.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
You excellent.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Point and the and the and the first win in
The Super bowl was the defensive. Front they. Crushed that was.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
It, yeah they and he won THE mvp in that, Game.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Manning and, yeah but he shouldn't have been you know
that he should be the defensive line, absolutely.
Speaker 13 (37:34):
Very much Like brady's first year Against Saint. Louis, yes
he shouldn't have won THE mvp, Either Vena terry could have.
Wonted the defense did a great job On, warner but
the quarterback gets to. Break but you are one hundred percent.
Right you can make a very strong case That David
tyree is the Reason eli is going to be in
The hall Of. Fame, yeah because One Super bowl would
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not do. It it would have taken it needs eat
his body of work needs a second, title and he got,
it and he got. It that turned out to be
his first.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
Title but he got it.
Speaker 13 (38:06):
Now he did a great job in the. Play he
dodged the. Rush he you, know he found the open.
Man he did score two touchdowns in the fourth quarter
with his. Offense they were what was the, SCORE i
think it was seven to three maybe whatever the score.
WAS i mean he did have two drives in a fourth.
Quarter Kevin boss caught the t, know the tight end quarter.
Pass but you're right one hundred percent, Now but that
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goes back to the original. Question you had a game
Of Dan patrick had a game for his? Life would
you Take manning or would you Take Russell? Wilson if
IF i.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Get Russ, Seattle, Seattle, RUSS i would take.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
Him because of his running and things like.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
That, yes he was the best player on the field
in that, game That Super bowl that he. Lost New
england had no answer for. Him he was unbelievable in that.
Game and it's you, know do you agree That Pete
carroll And Darryl bevill wanted him to be THE mvp
and Not Marshawn. Lynch you call the pass, play it's
like we Blame russell instead of Crediting Malcolm butler with
(39:15):
an unbelievable play And russ why you would call that
instead of a run pass, Option, LIKE i don't, KNOW
i don't understand. It but you, know if you, Well Pete,
CARROLL i agree with you on that.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
Point Pete carroll's a number. One go to that. Game
it's Not. WILSON i, mean.
Speaker 13 (39:33):
They called the wrong play and they got More Shawn
lynch sitting. There so you're one hundred percent. Right wilson
is not, That but he's number two Or bevil's, too
take your. Pick the coaches are, one and then the quarterbacks.
Too BUT i think that your other point is a good.
POINT i think there all look at, manningly but he
had a bad. Back but you get the idea sometimes
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how you and your, career if you're a Borderline hall Of,
famer more important than what you did in your. Career
And wilson is going to end his, career you, know
in a way that is not, impressive and that is
going to be your lasting memory of him against you,
know The steelers and The giants And denver And peyton
(40:16):
And Sean peyton got him out of, there and he
didn't finish well In, seattle AND i think because of,
that we seem to forget for an eight or nine
year period he was a great, quarterback and you are,
right he was, great.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
But the last three or, four four or five he's
been very.
Speaker 13 (40:34):
Average manning ended his career with the same, team and
the lasting impression Of manning in a lot of ways
And Troy. Aikman we even brought it up last, night
was The mario manningham pass which Beat.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Brady he mentioned it in the game last.
Speaker 13 (40:48):
Night so as a result of, THAT i think that you,
KNOW i Think, manning you know you don't have a
bad taste in your. Mouth now do you agree with?
Me go back to pitching for a. Second, NOW i
know everybody Loves, kershaw but do you agree with me
That kershaw's postseason almost gets forgotten because he's been so
good in the regular season and the average baseball fan
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doesn't realize that he's been a bad postseason. Pitcher you
Think i'm being too harsh, there or do you think
there's a good point to be.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
MADE i heard you say this on your show and
it felt like you were going out of your way
to He did you felt? That? Yeah, yeah because you
Know maddix And glavin weren't good postseason. PITCHERS i, agree
and we don't mention that very often about those two.
Guys And maddox won three hundred and fifty four. GAMES
(41:37):
i Mean, Kershaw, yes that that is, bad bad, numbers bad,
Numbers but when you win that. TITLE i Mean, maddox
they won One World, series so that's. IT i Mean,
kershaw JUST i don't understand. This there's certain guys that
were great in the, postseason and they were good in you,
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Know Jack mooreus Or smoltz Or. Shilling they just love
the moment AND i you, KNOW i just have great
appreciation for. Them but, yeah it did feel like you. Were,
WELL i gotta be careful with.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
That dad just said.
Speaker 13 (42:10):
THAT i take when you tell me, That i'll be
careful And i'll be fair About. Kershaw and, WELL i
know you got to, run But i'll be fair On.
Kershaw you know the old.
Speaker 6 (42:19):
Eye you know what happened In game five in twenty and.
Seventeen you can't use.
Speaker 13 (42:22):
IT i, mean supposedly that's when The astros are cheating
folks with your. Cans and supposedly they laid To Tom
perducci told me this and he would. Know supposedly they
laid off thirty eight. Sliders in the game and he got.
Bombed in that game they lost thirteen. Twelve they laid
off thirty eight. Sliders now did they lay off the
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thirty eight slidders or they know where they were. Coming
if that's the, case maybe Give kershaw a big. BREAK
i don't know how you feel about, it but that's But.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
CHRIS i ran into somebody who was in The astros
organization this summer and he said That kershaw was tipping his.
Pitches so we actually that was his. Argument, yes he,
said we knew BECAUSE i talked about the. Cheating he, goes, No,
kurson who was tipping his? PITCHES i, said but you
guys still. Cheated he, said, yes, yes well then you gotta.
Speaker 13 (43:12):
Trust so then the question, becomes do you trust a
guy who told you that or is he trying to protect.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
His team from not taking something away from that Grand.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
It is great to see, You thanks again for enjoying the.
Baseball That's christopher Mad Dog russo
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Radio recapping the game last night. The Chiefs used to
be the NFL's gold standard. You had stability, you had
brilliant you had Patrick Mahomes, you had Andy Reid, you
had a defense that was among the league's best. But
last night they got clipped thirty one twenty eight. They're
now two and three. So for the first time in
(00:25):
years like this feels like two and three. Uh oh,
not two and three. They're the Chiefs. They'll be able
to come back. Now, do I think getting a couple
of wide receivers back would certainly help. You know, you
don't have reliable receivers there. But still, Jacksonville did what
you want a team, a playoff team or a playoff
worthy team do, and that is you're down, you rely
(00:48):
on your quarterback and you pull out the win. So
that's back to back wins. You've beaten the Niners. In
the Chiefs, you're four and one. Trevor Lawrence looks steady, defense, opportunistic.
Liam Cohen the new head coach, he looks battle tested.
As for the Chiefs, I guess slipping a little bit,
and maybe the Jags are rising a little bit. But
(01:09):
either way, that gap between Kansas City and the rest
of the AFC not as wide as it used to be.
And there were a couple of moments in there where
Mahomes did what you thought Mahomes would do. I thought
they had a terrible kickoff by Harrison Butker that put
Jacksonville at the forty yard line, and then Trevor Lawrence
(01:31):
made a couple of big plays and Jacksonville is now
four and one, tied with Buffalo and tied with the
Colts with the best record in the NFL. All right, Seaton,
what's pole question we're going to go with. By the way,
the Jags four and one start the best start through
five games since two thousand and seven when they started
four and one. Stat of the Day brought to you
(02:04):
by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan
Patrick Show. Who was on the seven team. It's like
Mark Brunell on there, Yeah, Paul, I know.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Fred Taylor was on there. He was their start. I
just looked up David.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Garrard, Oh, pro bowler, David Garrard.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, he kind of came out of nowhere, had a
breakout year.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, David Garard, I think that was his only Pro Bowl.
But he played well. He was tough. Uh Seaton poll question.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well, we're just putting up the weekly Power and Dower rankings.
Very exciting. Your options for the power rankings are Detroit, Philly, Buffalo, Tampa,
Green Bay, Denver, Indie, and making. I think their first
appearance would be the Jacksonville Jaguars off of a big win.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Congratulations you guys on the top eight. Wow, those are
the power rankings. Who's the best team in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Is that what you're we are We're asking right now
who the most powerful team in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Are? Okay? Or and then we're gonna have the Dower
rankings as well.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yes, your Dower rankings. You can also vote on those.
Right there, we have let's see the Jets, Titans, Dolphins, Giants, Raiders, Saints, Bengals,
and Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yes. Wait, should the Bengals be on there? With two wins?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
They've been outscored by seventy one points this year. The
Bengal very.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Dowerful, very dowerful, very dowerful. Dang dang, all right, the
best team in Pro football right now is who Marvin
the Philadelphia Eagles all right, Paul, the Lions, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
God, I'm still gonna lean towards the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
All right, Seaton, I'm gonna say Destois. I'm gonna say
Detroit as well, because they had a quality loss. Well,
they lost to Green Bay at Green Bay, but they
look formidable offensively. I think that was our big question. Oh,
they lost their offensive coordinator and you get Aiden Hutchinson back,
(04:07):
and that team is That team seems to be great
on both sides of the ball. The Eagles, I still
have questions. There's something going on there. I don't want
to rely on Jalen Hurts to beat the opposition through
the air. I think when there's a combo platter, that's
when the Eagles are great, the defense consistent, then they
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can be the best team in football. But you know,
Saquon Barkley not running the ball and you're going to
throw it thirty eight times. Okay, that's not the formula.
And we certainly saw that. They've allowed teams to stay around.
Now the Chiefs did that. They've made a tradition out
of close games. Everybody is within one score, but they
(04:52):
pull those games out. You can't continue to do that.
Now they have, they've had sustained greatness, but sometimes it
catches up with you. And you had the stumble Rooskie
with Trevor Lawrence last night, and this is how it
sounded when he scored the game winner.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Trevor under center Heyce looked and he fell down.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Tremor fell down on the play charge to.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Play run cut down.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
He got up.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
It's I got Tapa Tenny, Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I'd like to know how that voice sounds today. That's
courtesy of the Jags Radio Network. Trevor Lawrence his foot
got stepped on by his center. He falls down. Chris Jones,
the great defensive lineman for the Chiefs, can't find him.
It's like I somehow lost a six' five. Guy and
Then lawrence, stumbles gets back, up and THEN i think
(05:57):
the defense is, like, well wait a, minute is the play?
Dead like what's going on? Here and he dives in
for the game.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Winner, yeah it's gonna Said todd will be happy to
know that was actually The chiefs call of that, touchdown.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
Showing some.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Enthusias it's a big moment in the.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Game it's the.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Game the Stumble rooskie of social media is calling it
With Trevor. Lawrence, hey but that's what you want out
of these. GUYS i think we talked About Trevor. Lawrence
is he ever going to live up to the?
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Hype?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Uh in parentheses. Bust he's had a couple of good,
years you, know but you're still waiting for. Him you,
know he should be knocking on the. Door being in
the top five. Quarterback he was can't miss going to.
College he was can't miss going into THE. Nfl, now,
GRANTED i got a gradym on a curve here because
(06:50):
he went through Coaches Urban meyer. SITUATION i still don't
think they've surrounded him with great weapons. There, Yes.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Paulie, yeah his second year in a, league twenty twenty
two Post Urban meyer, mess he was. Awesome twenty five,
touchdowns eight. Picks he was in THE mvp race the
past three. Years though he's like a sixty three, percent
sixty two percent, passer quite a few. Interceptions even this
year he's four and, One but he's a sixty percent,
passer six, touchdowns five. Picks it's not, pretty, ever it's
(07:19):
not easy and.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Smooth.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Ever, no by the, way THE NFL mvp, Odds i've
been Saying Baker mayfield should be the. Leader he's. Not
according to, DraftKings Josh allen sizeable Over Patrick. Mahomes this
is as of. TODAY i DON'T i Mean mahomes is
your second. Favorite Baker mayfield has been great and they're
(07:42):
a very good. Team Justin herbert is ahead Of Baker.
Mayfield Matthew stafford is Behind. Mayfield then Love golf Hurts Jaden.
Daniels But i'm surprised at The Patrick mahomes placement there number. Two,
Overall baker's got ten, touchdowns one. Interception they have played really.
(08:04):
Well they could have won The eagles. Game you go
To seattle in a shootout and you. Win i'm surprised at.
That All, Right baseball yesterday and last, night defense saved
The dodgers beating The phillies four to. Three they're up
two to. Zero now going back To Los, angeles The
brewers roll The cubs seven to. Three you Got mariners
(08:25):
at The tigers, Today Blue jays at The yankees as.
Well all, right eight seven to seven THREE dp show
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(08:45):
Those The dodgers are your big. Favorites then it's The,
brewers then The Blue, Jays, Mariners, Tigers, Yankees, phillies and
The cubs trailing they pulling up the rear at plus
thirty five hundred The dodgers or plus one fifty. Five all,
right any other pole questions that we're thinking. About by the,
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Speaker 4 (09:45):
Questions let's See paully sent this one Over Trevor lawrence
is a.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Good, quarterback going to be great or a? DISAPPOINTMENT i
would say he's good. QUARTERBACK i don't know if he's
going to be great if we remove a.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Good, quarterback because that's kind of the middle of the road, answer, Right,
YEAH i think he's gonna be. Good, okay what if
he's either going to be great or?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Disappointing right? NOW i would say. Disappointing he's shown. GLIMPSES
i think that's the problem sometimes when you see guys
where you, go why do you like this all the. Time,
well that's the difference between difference between good and, great
and it's the. Consistency it's weak in and week, out being,
(10:34):
threatening being, good coming up with great, moments and we
just haven't seen that from. Him, yeah SO i would
SAY i would lean towards a, disappointment but only because
the expectation level was through the roof for him and
should have. Been but you, know maybe it took a
while to get through The Urban meyer. Phase, Yeah, paul.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
It's almost apples And. Orgies he came in Like Andrew
luck in, college where there's just no doubt and it's
been a nice career it's apples and orgues to Like Zion,
Williamson Zion. Widgeon willison's career when he's healthy is.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Nice he's.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Good he's a good.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Player he's not.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Spectacular what else seen the?
Speaker 9 (11:17):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Well and you, KNOW i mean He Trevor lawrence came
into college a sure. Thing he didn't even go into
THE nfl was sure that he was in. College everybody was, waiting, like,
man it's too bad he's got to play here because
he could just jump right to the next. Level, man
talk about a guy who needed a season like this, Though.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well just a, game, Hole let's start with a game
that takes a little bit of the heat off of.
Him but you, know you're four and, one but you're
in a division where are The? Colts for? Real are
The texans gonna come back after what they did Against?
Baltimore so maybe maybe you have a little bit more
of a competitive. Division usually that's you, know THE Nfc
(11:55):
south and THE Afc south are just not. Good Here's
Trevor lawrence on his thoughts during his go ahead touchdown
on the Stumble rooski just.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Panic honestly BECAUSE i was trying to get up to
get the. Ball out of my hands to the. CLOCK i,
mean we didn't have any, timeouts so just. TRY i
was really going to just stand up and like launch
it out of the back of the end. Zone but
THEN i had a little bit of a, lane SO
i took it and you, know scored from.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
There it was interesting to see. Him HE'S i think
he shocked that he fell. Down nobody tackled. Me i'm
going to get back. Up now what DO i? Do
and all of a, sudden to the left he saw
there was an opening, there AND i think he was
just kind of, GOING i THINK i can get To
i'm going to score a. Touchdown. Yes.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
God he actually stumbled twice on that. Play when is it?
Speaker 10 (12:44):
Enough but be able to gather himself after two trips
and not give up on the play was pretty, impressive all.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Right when we come, back by the, way preseason basketball last,
night Ow Cooper flagg was in action last. Night Victor
Wimbin yama in action last. Night cooper looked. Awesome. Awesome
wemby is going to be he, Is he's going to
take over THE. Nba are you calling that right? Now
(13:11):
i'm calling Calling victor Woman, yum it's going to be a.
PLAYER i think he's going to be THE. Mvp how's
THAT'S i don't know how good the team's going to.
BE i think that he. Is i'm just watching somebody that.
TALL i think he grew in the off. Season he
might be seven to. Six but he's handling the, ball
he's great, passes he's shooting threes. AGAIN i mean he
(13:36):
is a better skilled version of The joker as far as.
HANDLE i, Mean joker still is the best player in the.
Game But wemby is he's, here he is.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Him, Yes, paul if you have, Room i'd love to
get on The wemby bus because he looks like he
got the twenty pounds That zion.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Lost he looks.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Thicker it's a good work for.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Everybody And Cooper flagg looked. Great he was the point
guard for a while last. Night some a block, shot
some great, passes hit a couple of threes as. Well,
YES i know it's only, preseason BUT i was kind
of having a good time with.
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Speaker 2 (15:02):
Podcasts marvin part of his job his. Responsibilities every morning
he'll look for interesting. Soundbites it could be a play
by play, call it could be an answer from a
coach or a manager or a. Player and So marvin
played this On, monday and to our, Surprise fritzy had
a problem With Dave simms Called dave is The yankee
(15:24):
broadcaster And Vlad guerrero just hit A Grand. Slam Blue
jays scored ten and thirteen runs in the first two.
Games so this is the, call and then we'll bring
In Dave. Sims so go, Ahead Marv.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Carrera that edition a two to one.
Speaker 12 (15:41):
Count he's looking on the load right, here two One.
Pitt he did big drive left field grand.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Slam So Dave sims kind enough to join us The
yankees radio play by play voice On. Wfan, DAVE i
don't know if you heard about this big. Controversy you
know social media. Circles but you've been a broadcaster a
long long, time And fritzi had a. Problem, fritzy would you?
(16:10):
Explain first of, all great to see, You, dave but
under these Certain, Yeah, fritzi would you like to Tell
davey that the problem you had with his? CALL i
will preface by saying THAT i have to.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Preference, NO i know a lot of the, time and
we worked together in the early, nineties AND i will
say WHEN i heard, that at the MOMENT i, was
it made me, think how does a broadcaster that's doing
a local teams, game how do you juggle a good,
play especially in the?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Playoffs you, off this is.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Embarrassing what do you?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Want what do you want me to show? Him?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Todd tell him what you?
Speaker 6 (16:51):
SAID i.
Speaker 10 (16:52):
WAS i was disappointed because it sounded, like you, KNOW
i don't how do you juggle The you, know you
don't want to be a homer and obviously it's against The,
yankees but it's a big home.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Run did you show a little?
Speaker 10 (17:01):
MORE i don't know if enthusiasm is probably not the exact,
word but that's a big play in a playoff. Game
it happens to be against your team that you're calling games.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
For so how do you capture?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
That or HOW i have to finish my?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Son?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
No, no you know you've had an. OPPORTUNITY i didn't
finish my thought your word? Thought, No, No i'm not
at All you had a. Chance, Okay, dave here was
the thing you had the. Call fritzy thought you should
have been more enthusiastic because even though it was The Blue,
jays it was A Grand slam in the, postseason and
he was surprised that you weren't. Enthusiastic hey, man we're
(17:35):
down five.
Speaker 12 (17:36):
Nothing we got our clocks tune the day. Before it
had gone at the page two in game. Two here
right at that, moment down five to, nothing and glad
he's been hot as a, pistol AND i could see it.
Coming i've been around baseball long, enough played it long,
Enough dan yet like he, did certainly not at the highest,
level BUT i know my baseball you could feel that.
(17:58):
Coming And i'm not going to sit here as A
yankee announcer go, hey woll you, Know Bro grant slap
and we're, down nye nothing come. On you, Know i'm
capturing the mood Of yankee. Fans, okay.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
The on hom if you, want But i'm bringing the
same emotion that those folks are having at.
Speaker 12 (18:21):
Home AND i also you, know in the immortal words
of h you, Know Race, scott who's one of the
great minimalists in our business doing play by, play you,
know Star dollar.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Touchdown that was my baseball version of.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
It, YEAH i understood it that you're kind of you
And Susan waldman are sort of prefacing that something bad
could happen Because vlad is you, know he's locked, In
so you kind of led us up to the. Moment
and it was basically calling a shot and, gone, yeah,
Gone and that was the mood. There but do you
(18:54):
do you ever fight the urge of but you, know
in fairness to What fritzie was, saying you know the.
Usiasm it is a, playoff but you are calling for The,
yankees the home, Team and If i'm tuning, in the
last THING i want to hear is Damn dave sounded
really excited That vlad hit A Grand slam in the.
Postseason well to that, Point, dan you know it's.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
INTERESTING i love. Baseball we all love. It we love
it for the.
Speaker 12 (19:17):
Excitement, uh you, know the juice that you get at
a baseball, game particularly at this time of, year but
anytime they're the regular.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
SEASON i appreciate great.
Speaker 12 (19:25):
Plays, now if a guy makes a heck of a play,
defensively or makes a great catch the, outfield or he
hits a bad pitch and he hits it out all
out Of Ladd. Senior you Know i'm gonna, exclaim BUT
i Clearly i'm pulling for The. Yankees and, now Granted
i'm not doing a national broadcast WHERE i got to
be trying to stay down the, MIDDLE i have no problem,
going hey, MAN i GOT i got N y in my.
(19:48):
HEART i had SEE i in my, HEART i got
N y in my. Heart Now i'm for these guys to.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Pull you, know pull through with the.
Speaker 12 (19:53):
VICTORY i have a ginormous, respect you, know for the,
game AND i. DON'T i don't THINK i did it
anything that, was you, know out of the ordinary by any.
Start as a matter of, fact most of you, know
family and friends and what. People i've heard from him and,
said he sort of captured the. Moment that's how we.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Felt how about when you're the local announcer and you're
critical of your, team like when when do you when
is that window or door open? That, YEAH i should
be able to be critical with the team that's employing.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Me you have to be you tell the, Truth tell the.
Truth you. Know we've had.
Speaker 12 (20:30):
Pictures i've seen a couple of pictures this year where
it's like the pen relays to get from the dugout
to the batter spox because there is there's no fear
of getting maybe not, drilled but pitched. Inside you want
to put batters in a, comfortable uncomfortable. Position And I've
(20:51):
i've criticized some guys on the ball club for, that
And i've done in the. Past guy makes a bad,
play you, know tries to make a super star play
out of A sometimes we should just eat the, Ball he's,
saying because the fans are saying the same. Thing i'm
telling the truth And i'm not making anything. Up bad
plays a bad, play good, plays a good.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Play if The yankees get, swept finish that, sentence it's gonna,
Stink it's gonna.
Speaker 12 (21:20):
Hurt toronto's a very good ball. CLUB i have a
tremendous respect for. Him AS i like to call, them
the non bold face names that they have on their ball.
Club you know about you Know, vladdie you know About George,
springer but you're talking About David, schneider Alahndro Kirk.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
KHY i JUST i love that.
Speaker 12 (21:37):
Guy he's five, eight two sixty five and he's a great.
Hitter Ernie, Clement Miles, Straw Addison. Barger these are guys
that you, know the, mainstream not even a lot of
the mainstream baseball. Fans they don't even know who these guys.
Are And i've seen, them now what ten twelve times this.
YEAR i know how good they. Are AND i think
(21:58):
the And Kevin gosman Was outstaye and The Savage kid
yesterday the other, day.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
It's off the. Chart no hit ball for five and a,
THIRD i, mean well eleven, Punching SO i, mean come,
on so it would be a very big.
Speaker 12 (22:09):
Disappointment at, Disappointment yankees tied With toronto for the type
of the third best record in, baseball and if they get,
swept that would just be.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Terried who's going to wear? This if they get? Swept
who gets the? Blame?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Oh you pick a lot of. PEOPLE i don't want
to leave anybody. OUT i don't.
Speaker 12 (22:31):
KNOW i you know WHEN i WHEN i did my,
top WHEN i was on a talk show radio AT
fa in many moons, AGO i was big into that
category SINCE i moved in to play by player all
these last few. Years i'm not picking up brick bats
or eggs and throwing. STUFF i, mean the team was,
constructed it's a home run hitting, team and they've been
(22:53):
out hit a home, Run so what is it eight
to one and fourteen three in the playoff in the
postseason then not hitting home? Runs and certainly the inning
that will live in infamy was the sixth inning game
one basis, loaded nobody out and score one run on
a baseloaded walk that should have been at minimum of
three run a three run. Inning SO i mean the,
(23:15):
PLAYERS i guess you'd have to say any players don't.
Performed they didn't.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Perform but you know, what it ain't over one team
and the seventeen team came from. Behind that's What that's
What i'm hanging my hat on right.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Now you worked In seattle for a long time with
The mariners and now with The. Yankees who is YOUR
mvp in The American?
Speaker 12 (23:33):
LEAGUE i went With, judge BUT i got no beef
If calf goes with. IT i went With judge because
he leads to nineteen. Categories, Yes Cal catcher, runs the
whole pitching staff does a great. Job he hit sixty
freaking home.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
RUNS i get.
Speaker 12 (23:49):
THAT i get, That But judge's overall worth nineteen. Categories he's,
leading and about four or five others he's right. Below
AND i just think that that carries a heck of
a lot of weight on and that led the way
on a team that hits a ton of home, runs
and he hit fifty home, runs and the fact that
what is? It won the batting title and hit fifty
(24:11):
plus home. Runs third guy to do, It fox And.
Mantle so but, AGAIN i THINK i think it's gonna
be a close.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
VOTE i really.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Do, YEAH i do. Too any last words For, fritzie
your former, friend former.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Friend No broncos beat my eagle. Son i'm probably more
mad at him about that than. Then, Yeah fi's gonna.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Be, enthusiastic. THOUGH i want you to think about, this
if you, know are you going to overcompensate with your
call tonight that if we hits?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
All why WOULD i do?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
THAT i, KNOW i just you know the, pressure the pressure.
Here fritzie's in your head all my, years, Man i've Had.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I've had a lot worse voices in my head Than.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Fritzy have fun, Tonight, Dave, Thanks, hey any?
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Pleasure, Hey, dan thanks a. Lot good to see, him,
Man And, hey a load of.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
It.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Dan that's way to go. Boys you guys are.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Great That's Dave. Simms he'll be on the call For
game Three Blue Jays yankees ON wfa on.
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(25:47):
Super bowl between The giants and The. Broncos, chris good
to see you. Again finish this. Sentence if The yankees get, swept.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
What, yeah big.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Embarrassment good Job. Danny why's a?
Speaker 6 (25:59):
Pleasure was going? NOWHERE i think you could have made a.
Speaker 13 (26:02):
Case if they had lost The Red sox, again then
maybe despite his contract, extension you could have made that.
Case you, know he's had a lot of. Injuries he
navigated the team pretty. Well good job there by Beating.
Boston you, know maybe they ran into a buzzsail. Here you,
Know i'm The yankees will probably chuck it up to you,
(26:23):
know they were in a. Hole next year they got
the young pitcher In, shittler throw in Cole. Back you
still Have wrdon sitting there With. Freed you know they'd
be a little better. Off but, again this would be
another year where The yankees, don't you, know go they
here's the bottom.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
Line since two thousand and, nine they won One World series.
Game that's. IT i Mean you can debate this anytime you.
Speaker 13 (26:46):
Want this is The, yankees who have the biggest payroll
in baseball and right there with The, dodgers and they
won One World series game in fifteen, years and chances
all they won't win another one this.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Year BECAUSE i do think you AND i probably.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
You love the.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
BASEBALL i think The Blue jays will probably figure out a.
Speaker 13 (27:01):
Way to win another, game and then The yankees is
going to lose the divisional series To toronto and that
is going to.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Sting BUT i don't think there's going to be any drastic.
Speaker 13 (27:10):
CHANGES i think they're relatively pleased with how the year
went based on Losing Coal. Boone the fans don't Like,
boone but The yankee brass loves, them so From, matthew
he's a good representative for them of you, know his
good media. Guy he sends the message, correctly he listens
to what they wanted to, do so he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
EITHER i think they're chalking. Up they ran into a
buzzsaw in His Blue jay.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
TEAM i mentioned this in the first hour of the.
Show there have been one hundred and eighty nine pitches
of at least one hundred miles per hour in the. Postseason.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Wow, Wow, yes.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
That's where we're. Headed that is that is analytics, Correct.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
That is, Analytics. Danny and there's too many.
Speaker 13 (27:55):
Relievers you, know it was so much fun to See
scruble Against cleve and earlier in that series because he
went seven eight, Innings crochet against The yankees when he
pitched him to the bottom of the eighth last. Week
the entertainment aspect of, baseball we've lost. It you AND
i grew up With gibson with Sever you maybe With,
(28:16):
kofax not, me but you maybe With kofax where you
saw these big pitchers go out there and have to
navigate a lineup the third time. Food Jim palmer's another
one catfish hunter and that was always fun to see
the Big hall Of, famer how he gets.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Through you, know that big, three four five in the
lineup in the eighth and ninth. Inning and you don't
have that. ANYMORE i, mean, look what look of what
has occurred?
Speaker 13 (28:39):
HERE i mean The yankees took out heel bottom of
the third the other night with two. OUTS i mean
the kid had a no hitter about the top of
the sixth the other day In toronto in a sixth
inning and they took him out of the game after
seventy eight.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Pitches boyd got taken out.
Speaker 13 (28:55):
Of the game against the In game one Against San
diego after fifty eight.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
PITCHES i, mean it's just the way it.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Is it's.
Speaker 13 (29:00):
Unfortunate they've ruined the aspect of, it the entertainment aspect of.
It you AND i and most fans can't pick. Out
you can't pick these relievers out of a. Lineup yet
they dominate these games in a, sixth, seventh, eighth or ninth.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
Inning you, know it is the way it. Is it's you,
Know baseball needs to fix. IT i don't know how
they're going to do.
Speaker 13 (29:18):
It the analytics have become more important than the entertainment
aspect of the, sport and it's a. Problem that's why
it was good to see The yankee right hander pitch
in the eighth, inning ninth inning In game, three when
eight innings in that.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Game there's something. Different it was something fun.
Speaker 13 (29:32):
Again the great, pitcher the, starter watching him perform late
in these playoff games when you.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
AND i were growing up was.
Speaker 13 (29:41):
Theater and we've lost out in the sport and it's
a major, problem and baseball knows.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
It i'm not sure what they can do about, it
though they know, it they know it's a.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Problem but you, know The dodgers starting staff has been.
Great it's their bullpen that's. Terrible terrible they're starting and
that has been, unbelievable, right and that's you, know.
Speaker 13 (30:01):
That's the weakness that The dodgers. HAVE i was lose
surprised last. Night h'm bringing a kid From japan a
little earlier in that ninth. Inning you think he wanted
to try trying to see if he can get three
outs with a three to one, lead so to get
him back on. Track But snell comes out after six.
Innings but if The dodgers have a, buggaboo that's. It
if The dodgers are going to, lose it's going to
be that you, know, eighth, ninth seventh innings where they're
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going to lose a terrible.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Game and last night could have been that.
Speaker 13 (30:26):
GAME i mean last, NIGHT i, mean let's face, It
snell comes, out they got a thorn up in, lead
and you, know if they don't make.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
A great player in that, bunt who knows they might
lose our.
Speaker 13 (30:37):
Historically bad game blowing a four one lead in the
ninth and maybe they show some vulnerability to get a little.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Nervous philadelphia feels good about. Themselves they get to split it,
home and you, know we have a situation where The
dodgers gonna beet picked.
Speaker 13 (30:49):
Off now you, know they're up too. Old they're going
to figure out a way to win another game and
they're gonna win that. Series The dodgers, issue as you just,
said is that short relief in that, seventh, eighth and ninth.
Inning and now we'll see maybe this twenty one year
old is gonna be the. Answer they spend the game
two on and fifty, million and he did a great
job In game, one so maybe they have corrected that.
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TOO i, mean The dodgers are you, know they. Don't
they're a great. TEAM i, Mean, dan think about their.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Team they are top three and the lineup is. Tremendous
then you Got.
Speaker 13 (31:19):
Taoska ernandez Kick hernandez gets big, Hits Will, smith who's.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Hurt we all know how good he. Is let's throw
On Max.
Speaker 13 (31:27):
Muncy and then they have you, know guys like Snell,
yamamoto Old Tani.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Oh and by the, way Here's glasnow making two of.
Them mallion a pitch him In game. FOUR i, mean
they are a, great great. Team let's be.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Honest talking to. You christopher Mad Dog russo Mad Dog
unleashed On SIRIUS Xm channel eighty, two and he's one
of the host co hosts of ESPN's First. TAKE i
thought about you on this topic that we use championships
as a metric for greatness for quarterbacks AND nba, players
but we don't do that for baseball. Players Why, YEAH i.
Speaker 13 (32:00):
Mean because you, Know Ted williams never won a, title
but he only gets up four times a, Game and
is it his fault that they never had any tremendous starting.
Pitching you, Know cob never won a title With detroit
and he's one of the all time. Greats never won a,
title lost a couple Of World. Series, YEAH i mean
it is a little. TRICKY i, mean you Know, madden
he never won a championship with The. YANKEES i think
(32:22):
it's because the pitcher dominates so. Much so if we
look at baseball from from an eight man, perspective we
don't look at.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
It that way because there's not as much impact they
can have on a.
Speaker 13 (32:35):
Game with the baseball debate about the Great hall Of
famer in the big. Spot we do it to pitching
because he's going to get the ball a couple of
times in a short. Series and that is WHERE i
have always had some trouble With, kershaw Because kershaw he's
won a. TITLE i, Mean kershaw is a tremendous regular season,
pitcher but if you look At kershaw in the, postseason.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
He's been very.
Speaker 13 (32:58):
Mediocre he's got a four four to FIVE, Era he's
given up thirty home runs in his postseason, starts and
he has never been a great postseason. Performer that is
the one guy that you can label like the, quarterback
like the center in, basketball that for whatever the, reason
his regular season prowess doesn't translate into the. Postseason and
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he did win a title in twenty twenty in the
in the pandemic and Beat, tampa and he pitched pretty
well in that.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Run he pitched good In game.
Speaker 13 (33:31):
Five but we don't look at it the same way
because the everyday Player, danny as you, know doesn't have
the same influence on a game as the starting pitcher.
Has so when we look at it in, baseball if
you want to grade.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
The starting you, Know maddix was never great in the. Postseason.
Speaker 13 (33:49):
No, three seven four lifetime era never great in the,
postseason and that's why a.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Guy like, Smokes and that's why a guy like you,
know to a certain degree.
Speaker 13 (33:58):
Shilling that's that's why you know you'd like to have
them in a big game because you're confidence in them
in a big. Spot their regular season isn't as, good
but you know in a big game you can rely on.
It SO i think it's more the pitcher that you
discuss more than the everyday.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
PLAYER i got into it With Peter. King we kind
of went back and forth on The hall Of fame
and we were talking, about you, know that Is Russell
wilson playing himself out of The hall Of, Fame AND i,
said you, Know Matthew stafford has one Super bowl win
AND i think he was a pro bowler one. Time
russ got to Two Super bowls and he was A
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pro bowler ten. Times so his regular season stats are
better Than Eli. Mannings but so it Feels manning's going.
In people don't debate, that But russ is playing his
way out of The hall Of. Fame do you?
Speaker 13 (34:50):
Agree, yeah that's a very that's going to be a
very close. VOTE i think that pass hurts him. Too
the interception against The. Patriots you, know With malcolm bum
one of the.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Worst it Hurts Pete.
Speaker 13 (35:02):
Carroll it's one of the worst players of all, time
and he throws a pick which wouldn't won A Super.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
BOWL i think that is a little bit of a.
Factor you, know he's been on a million. Teams.
Speaker 13 (35:10):
Now you, Know denver didn't work, Well The giants hasn't worked,
Well pittsburgh didn't work, well ended poorly In. SEATTLE i
think that's a problem. TOO i think your point About
stafford is. Fair he's very underrated. HISTORICALLY i, mean he
was on a Bad detroit. TEAM i, understand you, Know
god played well for The, lions but he was on
a Bad lions.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Team he's done a great job for The. Rams he
plays well in big.
Speaker 13 (35:33):
Games you know last year they had The eagles beat
he played, great played well in The Super, bowl played
well two years ago In detroit in the playoff. Game
stafford's very underrated, historically and he's going to be A
hall Of. Famer And, Manning danny is about five. Games
let's be. Honest manning is about a game in two
games In Green. Bay it's about a game In San,
francisco and it's a two games Against. Brady that Is
(35:56):
manning's career now five at games Beat, brady especially the
second one you, know got beat up against The niners was,
great you, Know Green bay and minus two degree.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Weather he out played far he and he won two.
Titles so and he did it In New, york which
you know is a big factor.
Speaker 13 (36:16):
Too very few quarterbacks outside Of, plunkett you know who
didn't get he's not going to make The hall Of.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
Fame but if you win Two Super, bowls chances all
you're gonna make. It and he did it In New,
york and he Beat brady.
Speaker 13 (36:28):
Twice but his, career if you look At manning and
you'd be fair about, it his career comes down to five.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Games now they're postseason. Games they come down to five.
Speaker 13 (36:36):
Games wilson's a better regular season quarterback Than, manning but
not the postseason. Success stafford is a better quarterback Than,
manning but not the postseason per success. Too and you
AND i probably if my life came down to, IT
i would definitely Take stafford Over.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Manning would you Take wilson Over? Manning game the win field?
Life who would you Take wilson Or. Manning, Hmmm i'd
probably Take. MANNING i probably.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Would, well let me throw this.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
OUT i wouldn't take it to.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Myself If David tyree doesn't make that, Catch, chris they
don't win the. Game, yeah so like that's he didn't
go to The hall Of. FAME i agree with.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
You excellent.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Point and the and the and the first win in
The Super bowl was the defensive. Front they. Crushed that was.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
It, yeah they and he won THE mvp in that, Game.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Manning and, yeah but he shouldn't have been you know
that he should be the defensive line, absolutely.
Speaker 13 (37:34):
Very much Like brady's first year Against Saint. Louis, yes
he shouldn't have won THE mvp, Either Vena terry could have.
Wonted the defense did a great job On, warner but
the quarterback gets to. Break but you are one hundred percent.
Right you can make a very strong case That David
tyree is the Reason eli is going to be in
The hall Of. Fame, yeah because One Super bowl would
(37:56):
not do. It it would have taken it needs eat
his body of work needs a second, title and he got,
it and he got. It that turned out to be
his first.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
Title but he got it.
Speaker 13 (38:06):
Now he did a great job in the. Play he
dodged the. Rush he you, know he found the open.
Man he did score two touchdowns in the fourth quarter
with his. Offense they were what was the, SCORE i
think it was seven to three maybe whatever the score.
WAS i mean he did have two drives in a fourth.
Quarter Kevin boss caught the t, know the tight end quarter.
Pass but you're right one hundred percent, Now but that
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goes back to the original. Question you had a game
Of Dan patrick had a game for his? Life would
you Take manning or would you Take Russell? Wilson if
IF i.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Get Russ, Seattle, Seattle, RUSS i would take.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
Him because of his running and things like.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
That, yes he was the best player on the field
in that, game That Super bowl that he. Lost New
england had no answer for. Him he was unbelievable in that.
Game and it's you, know do you agree That Pete
carroll And Darryl bevill wanted him to be THE mvp
and Not Marshawn. Lynch you call the pass, play it's
like we Blame russell instead of Crediting Malcolm butler with
(39:15):
an unbelievable play And russ why you would call that
instead of a run pass, Option, LIKE i don't, KNOW
i don't understand. It but you, know if you, Well Pete,
CARROLL i agree with you on that.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
Point Pete carroll's a number. One go to that. Game
it's Not. WILSON i, mean.
Speaker 13 (39:33):
They called the wrong play and they got More Shawn
lynch sitting. There so you're one hundred percent. Right wilson
is not, That but he's number two Or bevil's, too
take your. Pick the coaches are, one and then the quarterbacks.
Too BUT i think that your other point is a good.
POINT i think there all look at, manningly but he
had a bad. Back but you get the idea sometimes
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how you and your, career if you're a Borderline hall Of,
famer more important than what you did in your. Career
And wilson is going to end his, career you, know
in a way that is not, impressive and that is
going to be your lasting memory of him against you,
know The steelers and The giants And denver And peyton
(40:16):
And Sean peyton got him out of, there and he
didn't finish well In, seattle AND i think because of,
that we seem to forget for an eight or nine
year period he was a great, quarterback and you are,
right he was, great.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
But the last three or, four four or five he's
been very.
Speaker 13 (40:34):
Average manning ended his career with the same, team and
the lasting impression Of manning in a lot of ways
And Troy. Aikman we even brought it up last, night
was The mario manningham pass which Beat.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Brady he mentioned it in the game last.
Speaker 13 (40:48):
Night so as a result of, THAT i think that you,
KNOW i Think, manning you know you don't have a
bad taste in your. Mouth now do you agree with?
Me go back to pitching for a. Second, NOW i
know everybody Loves, kershaw but do you agree with me
That kershaw's postseason almost gets forgotten because he's been so
good in the regular season and the average baseball fan
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doesn't realize that he's been a bad postseason. Pitcher you
Think i'm being too harsh, there or do you think
there's a good point to be.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
MADE i heard you say this on your show and
it felt like you were going out of your way
to He did you felt? That? Yeah, yeah because you
Know maddix And glavin weren't good postseason. PITCHERS i, agree
and we don't mention that very often about those two.
Guys And maddox won three hundred and fifty four. GAMES
(41:37):
i Mean, Kershaw, yes that that is, bad bad, numbers bad,
Numbers but when you win that. TITLE i Mean, maddox
they won One World, series so that's. IT i Mean,
kershaw JUST i don't understand. This there's certain guys that
were great in the, postseason and they were good in you,
(41:59):
Know Jack mooreus Or smoltz Or. Shilling they just love
the moment AND i you, KNOW i just have great
appreciation for. Them but, yeah it did feel like you. Were,
WELL i gotta be careful with.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
That dad just said.
Speaker 13 (42:10):
THAT i take when you tell me, That i'll be
careful And i'll be fair About. Kershaw and, WELL i
know you got to, run But i'll be fair On.
Kershaw you know the old.
Speaker 6 (42:19):
Eye you know what happened In game five in twenty and.
Seventeen you can't use.
Speaker 13 (42:22):
IT i, mean supposedly that's when The astros are cheating
folks with your. Cans and supposedly they laid To Tom
perducci told me this and he would. Know supposedly they
laid off thirty eight. Sliders in the game and he got.
Bombed in that game they lost thirteen. Twelve they laid
off thirty eight. Sliders now did they lay off the
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thirty eight slidders or they know where they were. Coming
if that's the, case maybe Give kershaw a big. BREAK
i don't know how you feel about, it but that's But.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
CHRIS i ran into somebody who was in The astros
organization this summer and he said That kershaw was tipping his.
Pitches so we actually that was his. Argument, yes he,
said we knew BECAUSE i talked about the. Cheating he, goes, No,
kurson who was tipping his? PITCHES i, said but you
guys still. Cheated he, said, yes, yes well then you gotta.
Speaker 13 (43:12):
Trust so then the question, becomes do you trust a
guy who told you that or is he trying to protect.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
His team from not taking something away from that Grand.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
It is great to see, You thanks again for enjoying the.
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