October 9, 2025 • 41 mins
The Yankees got eliminated by the Blue Jays in the ALDS, and Yankees Manager Aaron Boone seems safe with his job, but should he be? Both North Carolina and their head coach Bill Belichick put out dual statements committing to one another, but Dan thinks this is a mess that would never have happened in New England. NFL insider Mike Florio discusses the situation with Belichick, his NFL reputation and Jerry Jones getting fined.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock that's our streaming partner.
Download the app if you haven't done so. First Hour
brought to you by Express Employment Professionals providing the workforce
you need and you can go to expresspros dot com
to find the location nearest to you. Expresspros dot Com
play the day, Pole question, stat of the Day, All
of that forthcoming eight seven to seven three DP. Show
(00:27):
operator Tyler is sitting by to take your calls. Let
me start with the Blue Jays closing out the Yankees.
The Tigers and Mariners are tied to two games apiece.
The Phillies are still alive as Kyle Schwarber had a
couple of home runs, and the Cubs over the Brewers,
which certainly makes for some interesting baseball coming up. Phillies
(00:48):
at the Dodgers and then the Brewers at the Cubs
tonight to compete with Eagles at the Giants. Seaton, would
you give us the poll question from the first hour?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, First Hour, We're going to go with one from
PAULI here. Worst way to lose a playoff baseball game?
Got four options strikeout looking with men on bass, grounding
into a game ending double play, an error in the
field like a drop ball, something like that, or give
up the game winning home run as a pitcher.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh now, I'll reflect back on what Mitch Williams told
me when he gave up a home run that won
the World Series for Toronto. He gave up the home
run to Joe Carter, and he said, hey, you know,
it's not one of those that you're devastated by it
because I threw my best and he hit my best.
I at least got that moment, and I like it
(01:43):
was a completely different take than I would have had.
But he said, hey, you want to throw your best,
he hit my best and he was the better man
and they won the World Series.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yes, yeah, like some of you know, grounding into a
game ending double play, I don't think that that's a
bad way at all. It sucks, but you put the
ball in play, you know, you make contact that just
didn't find the gap in the infield or whatever. But
I mean, at least you gave your team a chance.
That's a lot different than say like striking out looking
where you don't even swing like that is just terrible
(02:15):
or an error in the field is brutal. That's brutal,
and you lose the game that way, that is just awful.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And having been there when Bill Buckner had the ball
go through his legs and he talked about that, you know,
they win the World Series. Ball goes through his legs,
and you know that lives in infamy. All Right, we'll
settle on a poll question here. I did want to
bring the end the final call with the Yankees against
the Blue Jays. Blue Jays have put up some runs.
(02:41):
The Blue Jays have scored thirty four runs so far
in the playoffs. That's the most by any team through
its first four postseason games in baseball history. Let's gon
(03:01):
stat of today has always brought you by Panini America,
the official trading cards to the program. This is how
it sounded on the Blue Jays Radio network.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
So one two, swinging aimn strike three, screaming flex from Hoffman.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
The Blue Jays are.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Back in the ALCS for the first time since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
They down the Yankees in their own yard, and they're.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
The first team in Baseball's final four.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Okay, Blue Jays Radio Network Dave Simms, of course, is
the play by play voice for the Yankees Radio network.
He joined us a couple of days ago to talk
about maybe his lack of enthusiasm for a Vlad Guerrero
Grand slam. Fritzi called him out on that, so we thought,
let's juxtapose the two calls there. So here's Dave Simms
(03:51):
and the end of the Yankees season.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Just a Pitts swinging in a miss and that'll do it.
The Rattle Blue Jays going to the American League Championship Series,
which starts on Sunday, as Hoffman was a very defiant
look at the Yankee dugout now, very sad ending to
a Yankee season here in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Okay, Todd, you, of course the big judge of Dave
simms enthusiasm or lack thereof a little.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Morbid I was gonna hoping he would take it with him.
How about that Blue Jays? He didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
That's all right, he did not. You don't are you
okay with that kind of you know, very somber call.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
It ended the season, so I can wink at that,
but it's very very somber, and I guess you're trying
to capture your audience. The Yankee fans are upset and said,
so you have to be sad.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, it understandable.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
So a big moment for the Blue Jays and then
moving on to the Alcs that should be acknowledge even
as a Yankee.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You know, yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (04:51):
It wasn't a huge play like a game ending home
run by the Blue Jays where he had to do
the excitement and then bring it back down. It was
more and with all the men left on base, you
could feel the disappointment coming. So he captured the tone.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And I think that there was speculation. There wasn't anything
that was concrete that maybe Aaron Boone would lose his
job if they got swept and we had Christopher mad
Dog russo on. He goes, Nope, front office loves Boone,
loves Cashman. Cashman's been there in some capacity since nineteen
eighty six. But Aaron Boone looks like he'll survive even
(05:26):
though they got one win out of this. And you
have to start to wonder, are the Yankees okay with this?
From a certain standpoint? Are they okay that your team
is good? You have maybe the best player in the game,
you have a pretty hefty payroll, But are you okay
not going to the alcs? Like, how would you sum
(05:49):
this up? If you're a Yankee person in the front
office or Aaron Boone, Is there any part of you
that goes okay, like did you exceed X expectations? Because
I would be disappointed if I But you know, growing
up and seeing the Yankees, when the Yankees were truly
dominating and spending more money than anybody, But that's not
(06:10):
the case anymore. They've almost become kind of prudent, where
you know, we're gonna pick and choose, We're not going
to go crazy on the Sodo contract, and you know,
we've got a couple of good guys here. I mean,
they overpaid for a couple of plays. Are they still
paying Jacoby Elsbury? He might he might still be getting
paid by them, but it just feels like and they
(06:33):
didn't have Garrett Cole, so you got I mean, that's
one of the best pitchers in the game. But I
don't know, this wouldn't have happened. They wouldn't have you know,
been kind of stuck in neutral with George Steinbrenner. I
just can't imagine he would go, yeah, I'm Okay, with that,
they've won one World Series game since what twenty six,
(06:53):
twenty sixteen? Yes, Todd, is that right, Marvin two thousand
and nine, oh, two thousand and nine.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Yeah, the last time they won was against the Phillies
in two thousand and nine when they won the World six.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
No, No, I'm talking about winning a game ties. So
they won one World Series game that was last year? Yes,
yeahs yeah, okay, all right? Yes?
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Is it enough of a band aid that they can
say they knocked out the Red Sox in the playoffs?
As far as who's keeping their jobs and having anything
positive to say about this season for the Yankee.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I don't think this was a great Red Sox team.
I think this Red Sox team felt like they overachieved
a little bit. But if I'm the Yankee Yankee fan, no,
this ain't about the Red Sox anymore. No, because that
Red Sox aren't the second best team or the or
the best team in the American League. You know, Toronto
is a young team and they got a lot of power,
(07:45):
score a lot of runs. You know, Tigers aren't going
away anytime soon. Uh, Seattle up and coming young team,
you know, so you got to start thinking bigger picture
here than Hey, we beat the Red Sox. That wouldn't
satisfy me. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
The Yankees are currently at sixteen street seasons without winning
a World Series, and that ties their longest stretch in
the history of the franchise. They went from seventy nine
till ninety six without winning, so sixteen years then as well.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And having been there when George would fire Billy Martin
a couple of times, he just didn't, you know, and
it was very reactionary. You know, you were never surprised
that George was going to do something like that. And granted,
there has to be somewhere in between of today's you
know Yankees back to when George was there, but still accountability.
(08:33):
And I'm not, you know, I guess, pleading for or
suggesting they fire Aaron Boone. I mean, I'm not a
big fan of his from the standpoint of analytics. And
here's a guy who played the game, brother played the game,
his dad played the games, dad managed, Like gut feeling
still has a place in the game, and it doesn't
always feel that way when I look at the Yankees.
(08:55):
But I'm just surprised. But then you're going to say,
or least I would say, all right, and who you
bringing in? Because how many great managers out there, and
Aaron Boone, I think is a very good manager. I
just don't like when you bring out the binder and
all of a sudden it's like you're ordering off a
menu or something. Yeah, Pauline, I went back and look
at the Blue Jays history.
Speaker 8 (09:17):
They won the World Series in ninety two and ninety three,
and then they didn't appear in the postseason for twenty years.
Would you sign up for that if you're a fan.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Pickets in ninety two and ninety three.
Speaker 8 (09:31):
I would like, if you're a Cleveland Guardians fan, you
can win the next two World Series and you don't
make the playoffs again for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I would sign up for that. Yeah, you have to
write if I'm in Cleveland, yes the choice, Yes, yes,
yes I would. I mean the Marlin fans they did
that twice where you okay, you're gonna win, and then
you're not gonna do anything, and then you'll win again
and then not do anything. Yeah, Marvin Marlin's got fans.
Ah yeah, wow. All right, So eight seven seven three
(10:03):
DP show A few things talk about we'll talk to
Florio about this Belichick situation in North Carolina. And when
you have to put out statements, you know that, Hey,
we totally backed Bill Bellie, Like, we're what five games
in and we're putting out statements. That doesn't bode well here,
(10:26):
And I think what's happened. A lot of this has happened,
and that is we're blaming his young girlfriend. She gets,
you know, like, oh my gosh, you know, how does
he let this happen? Exactly? Bill never had messes in
New England. Never he controlled everything, and now it seems
(10:48):
like he controls nothing. So I put the blame is
on Bill. Bill has to get this right. And everything
that you're hearing is like it's all negative. Now, granted
they do have two wins. It's just they've been blown
out three times and the two wins aren't impressive. But
if you didn't have all this drama, and let's say
you had a groundswell of support, the locker room wasn't fractured. Guys,
(11:13):
are you know there's positive positivity out there? Hey that
guy looks pretty good. Hey we got a bright future here. Well,
you don't have any of that. And if you're a
recruit or you're the parents of a recruit, you want
your kid going to North Carolina, and North Carolina has
never had a problem with getting top talent. Never. Every
(11:33):
single draft, it feels like, oh, another player at in
North Carolina. This is on Bill. Bill's gonna wear this
and this will be his last up. I can't imagine
the Dolphins are gonna go, hey, when we get rid
of Mike McDaniel, why don't you just come down here
and break down schules all time victory record. I don't
see that happening. But man, there's a lot of reporting
(11:55):
going on with this with Belichick North Carolina. But you know,
the owners should not be on his girlfriend. Okay, I
mean she's acting like she's twenty four years of age.
She's acting like she's in charge. Bill has allowed this
to happen. He allowed this to happen.
Speaker 9 (12:13):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I can't imagine if he was coaching the Patriots, she
would be on the sidelines. I can't imagine that she
would be involved in an inner like this does never happened.
So it's not just her and I think she's getting
she's the focal point because we all have this, you know,
same reaction of he's seventy three and she's twenty four.
(12:36):
But that's why I wonder where his priorities are. I
truly do. I don't know if he wants to continue
to be, you know, this mastermind, this great football coach.
It just feels like something is missing there, like his
enthusiasm doesn't seem like it's pointed towards football. And everybody
that he hired. His son is his defensive coordinator. He
(12:58):
brought in Mike Lombardi. I mean, he brought in all
the people. And plus when you recruit, he recruited, so
you bring in freshman and you bring in transfers. So
those are players that Bill is bringing in. Seventy players
he brought in, not I'm going to inherit Mac Brown's roster.
(13:18):
If you said in North Carolina, hey you want to
do over, you want to keep mac Brown? I think
we know the answer to that. All right, we'll get
to pull questions, we'll get your phone calls, and we'll
talk to Florio coming up. Also the Cincinnati Bengals. You
know when that or I should say, the Browns when
the head coach doesn't realize that Joe Flacco is going
(13:39):
to be traded. I don't know what that says about
Kevin Stefanski, but he was like, I'm surprised we traded
Joe all right, Andrew Berry, the GM pulled the trade off,
and then your head coach is like, Okay, I'm fine
with it. I'm fine with it, and you got Flacco
playing against the Green Bay Packers again. He can be
(14:01):
the second quarterback in NFL history pro football history to
beat the same team in the same season while playing
for two different teams. I'll give you the answer to
that after this Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
He's Mike Krman, I'm Dan Bayern. We have a brand
new fantasy football podcast called I Want Your Flex. Twice
a week, every Tuesday and Friday, we come up with
new episodes to not only look back at what happened,
what you need to do at that minute, and also
look ahead of what's coming up in the fantasy football world.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
That's right, Dan.
Speaker 10 (14:44):
Every week we're going to scour the waiver wire to
find the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup, six starts,
fantasy football players rankings. To get you ready to dominate
the competition, listen.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
To I Want Your Flex with Mike Carmon and Met
Dan Byer on the iHeartRadio app podcast and Wherever you
Beat your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Before the commercial break, I said that Joe Flacco could
become just the second quarterback since nineteen fifty to start
and win a game against the same opponent on two
different teams in a single season. The only other quarterback
to do it did it in nineteen sixty two. This
is really tough, so I don't know if I mean,
(15:25):
you'd have to be a really really big fan of
this football team or this quarterback, because the only other
quarterback to do that was Jack Kemp. He beat the
Titans as a member of the Chargers and the Bills.
That was nineteen sixty two. Stat of the Day stat
(15:45):
of the Day that best s Oat of the day
stat of the Day.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
It comes that what stat of the Day?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America,
the official trading car The Dan Patrick Show. Mike Florio
probably knew the answer. He knows All Pro Football Talk
Live co host and contributor to Football Night in America
and his latest novel, Big Shield, definitely not about the NFL,
but it's a tale of gambling, the mob, and pro football,
(16:17):
but definitely not the NFL. The ebook available on Amazon
for only ninety nine cents. Good morning, Mike, how are
you great?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Dan?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Full disclosure, I had no idea the answer to that
awesome stat of the day.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
What does it say about the Browns and Kevin Stefanski
that he had no idea that his backup quarterback was
traded to the Bengals.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I'm surprised he said it out loud because I feel
like so much of what happens in Cleveland, they understand
that in order to hold these jobs, they are at
the whims of whatever the owner decides to do. And
I think the owner has created destruction. Now this is
just my opinion. I think he's created a structure where
it looks like there's a plan, it looks like there's
a program, it looks like there's a formula for everything.
(17:03):
But at the end of the day, it's just what
the owner wants. And I think everyone's in tune with
figuring out what the owner wants, and when the owner
wants something, it happens, so doesn't surprise me at all.
It doesn't surprise me. They traded him, I mean, they
benched him, They saved some money, they upgrade a draft pick,
and they move on from a guy that no longer
fit into their plan. So they got something out of him.
They have to be happy with this, all right.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Given all the coverage with Belichick with North Carolina, what's
your number one question about this situation today?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
How much money changes hands? And in which direction does
it go when it finally ends. I feel like that's
where this is headed. And those companion statements that came
out at nine thirty six pm Eastern last night, Like
if you hadn't been paying attention to all the reports
that are out there, and you just happened to open
your Twitter and you're a North Carolina fan and you
see that the next post since the one about Drake
(17:56):
May that they were shamed into making on Monday, is
this statement that Bill Belichick's committed to the team, and
then the statement from Bubba Cunningham the ad team is
committed to him. It's like, why are we doing this?
It just legitimizes that there's this avalanche right now of
reporting that they've made no effort to push back against
of dysfunction and deterioration and just flat out disintegration of
(18:18):
the program. And I feel like that this is just
the idea of if I'm going to go, you're going
to pay me to go, And from the team's perspective,
if you're going to go, we're not going to pay you.
And maybe you're going to pay part of your one
million dollar price tag to get out of here. And
they're just it feels like they're staking out what the
endgame and the dissolution of this is going to be.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Hell damaged? Is his NFL reputation.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I don't think it affects anything he's done in the NFL,
I think.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
But future employment, Oh.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Well, let me just add this caveat in advance. We
know that there are plenty of teams in the NFL
that don't know what the hell they're doing, and it
all comes from the owner. Dysfunctional teams do dysfunctional things,
as our friend Big Kat says, And I can't rule
out an owner of a team that is chronically bad
(19:13):
and they've got a revolving door at the coaching position
saying what the hell? Nothing else we've tried, has worked,
Let's give it a shot. But here's the problem. How
do you sell this Bill Belichick to a fan base
and to the media that cover the team. Who's going
to renew season tickets when they find out that this
Bill Belichick is coming in to take over. I think
(19:34):
that's the hardest thing. From a football standpoint, what the hell,
maybe he can recapture some magic. From a business standpoint,
I don't know how you help your bottom line by
trotting out Bill Belichick post North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
But could you see a scenario where the Dolphins bring
him in if they fire Mike McDaniel, even though he
would be trying to pass Don Shula's record in the
all time victory list while being a Dolphins coach in
the process.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
I think that's a practical impediment to getting the fans
to buy in. That's the key. These guys. They act
like they're obsessed with winning the Super Bowl. All we
want to do is win the Super Bowl. We want
to win the Super Bowl. Well, you know what, only
one team wins it, but they all win at the
bank vault. And if you are going to make a
hire that sabotages your ability to fill your stadium. You're
(20:29):
just asking for red ink in a business where there
should be none. So I think that is the one
factor that we need to keep in mind here. He
will be received very differently wherever he would go next
in the NFL than he would have been two years ago. Now,
I won't rule out that there's some owner that's going
to decide I don't care, this is what I want
to do, but I don't know who it would be.
(20:51):
And I think that whole Don Shula Bill Belichick feud
would be a factor against him going to Miami.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
But it feels like Mike McDaniel's are already done in Miami.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Oh, I agree with you. I agree with you, But
that doesn't mean the replacement's going to be Bill Belichick.
They need to find a middle ground between the Brian
Flores Belichick type that couldn't get along with Tuatogo I
Lowe and it was kind of a hard charging task
master and Mike McDaniel, who's everybody's buddy and he's just
really chill and he's authentic. Authentic works until you're piling
(21:22):
up losses and you see this guy who seems to
be unaffected by the fact that they're piling up losses,
so they need to find someone in the middle. But
this is what dysfunctional teams do. It doesn't work out
with one coach, so the next guy we hire is
the exact opposite from a personality standpoint, and they just
swing back and forth between those two types.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for flipping somebody off
for Jerry Jones. I'm always curious if the commissioner has
a book, you know, like he just goes over, opens
his desk and goes, let me see you got that
flipping off fans two hundred and fifty Like, how do
they come up up with two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars for Jerry Jones.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Well, sixteen years ago Bud Adams, the late founder of
the Oilers who were then the Titans, he got fined
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for two of them.
So I don't know if it's inflation cost of living increase.
But Dan, here's my big takeaway. Beyond the fact that
Jerry had the ridiculous I meant to give a thumbs up,
and you know, my hand has a life of its own,
(22:24):
a mind of his own, and I gave the figure.
But I think Jerry should say, you know what, next time,
I'll just throw a drink on them, because that only
costs three hundred thousand dollars when David Tepper did it,
that's a bargain in comparison. If I really, if I'm
really upset, I'll just throw the drink and pay the
extra fifty grand.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Dang two hundred and fifty K. And then did the
team Jonathan Gannon got fined. Did the team do it
or the NFL?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
The team did it, and the NFL was satisfied by it.
And you know a lot of times what happens isn't
they don't come out and admit it. The league makes
it clear to the team, you need to do something
about this, or we will. I think it was appropriate.
He crossed the line. We're in an age where you
can't put hands on your players, and he made contact
with MRI D Marcato multiple times, including kind of an
aggressive slap to the arm as he walked away, So
(23:11):
I think it was appropriate. The real question is does
the locker room accept his apology, Do they buy it?
Did it seem sincere or was it a hostage video
type of an apology that he had to make, and
we'll see as soon as this weekend when it's time
for them to play, we'll see what kind of performance
he gets from his players.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
So that Jerry Jones's middle finger is two and a
half times worse than Jonathan Gannon's action correct.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Well, again, I don't know where the book is that
tells them what to do. And we always hear that
owners are held to a higher standard than players, and
sometimes they are. Jerry Judy of the Browns did the
double barrel middle finger to Ravens fans and his fine
was somewhere between ten and twenty thousand for that. So
in this situation, they hold the owners to a higher standard.
(24:00):
So I don't know. I just wonder like if Jonathan
Gannon had messed with the wrong guy and we would
have had a Latrell Spreewell situation on the sideline. I mean,
that's the problem. There are certain guys in the NFL
who aren't going to take what Mriid Morcado received from
Jonathan Gannon. So I think it's probably wise for coaches
(24:20):
to not lay hands on these gladiators who are out
there hitting people for a living.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I'm talking to Mike Florio and his novel Big Shield.
It's about gambling, the mob, and a pro football league
that is not the NFL. The e book available at
Amazon for only ninety nine cents. You know. The mac
Jones situation now, it's not surprising for me because Kyle
Shanahan didn't like him going into that draft, and then
you get him, even though they don't have weapons. He's
(24:48):
played really well. I don't want to go as far
as to say do they have a quarterback controversy? But
if mac Jones plays great again, I think six touchdowns
in one interception, you know, could this be a quarterback controversy?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Here's the big picture, and the forty nine ers were
very wise dan to sign mac Jones, not to a
one year deal like they did with Sam Darnold, two
years with mac Jones at around eight million dollars. The
way that the brock Party contract that was negotiated in
the offseason is structured two years is what Purdy is
guaranteed and the forty nine ers have, and they build
(25:27):
this into all their contracts. A lot of teams, the
next year becomes guaranteed right after the league year begins.
In the middle of March. The forty nine ers always
demand until April one to make a decision, So they
have until April one of twenty twenty seven to make
a decision about brock Purty. After the twenty six season, Well,
there's a lot of football to be played between now
(25:49):
and the end of the twenty twenty six season. By then,
you know, a lot of times you think you have
a problem, you have an issue. What are we going
to do? The decision reveals itself in time. By the
time we get to the end of the twenty twenty
six season, I think will know and they'll know which
of the two guys is the long term play, and
they'll have a seamless way if they want to do it,
to pivot to mac Jones and get away from the
(26:10):
remainder of brock Purty's contract. That's the key. So for now,
they got both guys for the next two years, and
then they'll make a decision, and you know it'll be
driven by health. Between now and then, they can always
play the one hundred percent card, where brock Purty plays
only if he's one hundred percent, Well, is he one
hundred percent? No, I've decided he's not we're gonna play
Mac Jones. But hey, in a league where plenty of
(26:32):
teams don't have one quarterback who can get it done,
they're fortunate to have two. And I know they've had
plenty of misadventures at the quarterback position, but they're in
a good spot right now because they've got two guys
who can play. And I think we see how it
plays out between now and week eighteen and twenty twenty six,
and I think by then they'll know and will know
which of the two guys is the answer for.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
The long haul. Is John Harbaugh safe in Baltimore?
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Probably not. And it's been a long relationship, and you know,
he falls into that category of guy who would get
fired if he gets fired, or if he would resign,
or if it would be a mutual parting, and he'd
probably lands somewhere else right away if he wanted to,
like Andy Reid did, like Mike Tomlin. Would you know,
there's that thirty percent chunk of the Steelers fan base
(27:18):
that is ready to fire Mike Tomlin anytime they lose
two games in a row. There have been times over
the years where it's felt like it's coming to an end.
Between the Ravens and Harball, and it's always skewed toward
him staying. This has got to be the biggest test
of the relationship between the front office and Harball that
we've ever seen. As the roster disintegrates, the team can't win.
(27:40):
They got embarrassed at home by the Texans over the weekend,
a team that had never won in Baltimore went in
there and blew them out. So there's gonna be a
lot of pressure in that owner coach relationship with the
GM kind of caught in the middle. What's going to
happen after this season? So I think there's a very
real chance based on what we've seen through five weeks,
then a mutual parting is what happens when the season ends.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Because it seems like we've focused on Mike Tomlin's tenure
in Pittsburgh and here they are just kind of quiet. Now.
You know, they can't control what the other teams do
or don't do in the injuries, but you know, I
thought this might be the last year for Tomlin in
Pittsburgh and maybe Aaron Rodgers, like they were all in
together for this one year and then Aaron would go
(28:24):
on his way and Mike Tomlin would go into TV.
But here they are leading the division and we have
no other reason to think that they won't be there
at the very end of the season.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
The last two weeks had been incredible for the Steelers.
They beat the Vikings in Ireland and the rest of
the division has gone a combined ohen six. So here
they are and the Bengals they're done. The Ravens seem
to be done. And this is just a reminder. And look,
I don't I don't want to complain about the business
that we've chosen, but we spend the off season talking
(28:58):
about how the next season it's going to go. With
this assumption that everyone's gonna stay healthy. We know guys
are going to get injured. It's bad for him to say, well,
this guy could get injured, that guy can get injured,
but we know it's gonna happen. Five weeks to the
day since the regular season began, the Ravens and the
Bengals have been decimated. For the Bengals, all it took
was one guy. For the Ravens. It's a bunch of guys,
but it changes everything. And here are the Steelers at
(29:20):
three and one and they're sitting pretty and it's working.
They finally had a game where both the offense and
the defense showed up at the same time and they
got that win. They stole one from the Patriots. They
shouldn't have won. But here they are, and yeah, that's
you know, as a wise man once said, they sweaty
played a games and that's part of the fun of it.
Because right now, Dan, who's the best team in the AFC?
(29:42):
I really don't know the answer to that question.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Is there a chance that Deshaun Watson plays again.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Well for the Browns this year? Probably not. There's a
subtext where he's trying to get healthy and at some
point he shows up with a doctor's slip saying this
man is clear to play football, and the Browns have
to make a decision. They're not going to cut him
because that would trigger a one hundred and thirty five
million dollar dead cap charge next year. They're trying to
ride out this contract because they've structured it so the
bigger cap hits come later when the cap is higher.
(30:13):
But but the other thing to keep in mind, there's
an insurance policy that covers him for this year if
he plays. That insurance policy becomes jeopardized. I don't know
how much they would lose by way of the money
they get for the insurance they had against injury. It
gets a little complicated. I think they'd like to finesse it.
So he's on the team and he's around, but he's
(30:34):
not on the roster, and we'll see if it comes
to that. But there's other business issues that go into
this calculation. But at this point, I don't think there's
any Browns fan that is curious to see what Deshaun
Watson can do on the football field. They're ready to
move on from him, but the reality is he's most
likely going to be on the team through twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Have you ever done a list of the worst decisions
made in NFL? Like if I said the Browns moved
on from Baker Mayfield and now he's an MVP candidate
in Tampa and then you go all in and sign
to Shaun Watson. Has there been a decision that has
been worse than that in NFL history?
Speaker 5 (31:16):
No? No, And I've said before without the Baker Mayfield angle,
the Deshaun Watson contract and trade is the single worst
transaction in NFL history because it's the combination of and
we get caught up in the money two hundred and
thirty million, fully guaranteed. It's easy to lose sight of
the three first round picks and multiple other picks that
were sent to Houston. Those are affordable young players who
(31:40):
become the nucleus of your team if you use the
picks right. They've lost all those guys, and so the
fact that they're even able to win a game, the
fact that they went to the playoffs two years ago
is remarkable given what they gave up to get Deshaun Watson.
So they gave up a lot, they've paid him a lot,
they've got nothing in return. Yes, I believe firmly that
that if there was a list, I don't know what
(32:02):
number two would be, but number one would be the
Deshaun Watson acquisition by the Browns.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
But what about the Herschel Walker trade?
Speaker 5 (32:10):
That would be that's probably number two, right, number two, right, number.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Two, Ricky Williams with the Saints. Is that up. They
gave up all their draft picks and Mike Dickett wanted
to go play golf, and so take.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
That that's in there, that's in there now now. Back
in those days, again, the draft picks made a lot
more money relative to what they make.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Now.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
The important thing to remember now, since twenty eleven, they
have configured the rookie pay system so that those guys
are cheap and you have them for four years. If
it's a first round pick, you have them for five years.
And that's how you manage a team where you pay
a few guys market value. The guts of your team
are these young guys that you have gotten for peanuts
(32:54):
in comparison to what it cost to get a veteran.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Great stuff is always Mike, have a great weekend. Thanks
for joining us, buddy.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Thanks Dan, good talking to you.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Mike Florio. Pro Football Talk, That's the show that precedes hours,
and his website Pro Football Talk must read every single morning.
His latest novel, Big Shield, is available ebook at Amazon
for only ninety nine cents. We'll take a break. Our
play of the day is up next to them. Your
phone calls right after this.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Oh my God, the play of the day.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
This is the Play of the day.
Speaker 10 (33:43):
Check this out.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
He's from the right side.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
That ball's groun steep to right field. Hernandez doesn't even move.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
It is long gone.
Speaker 9 (33:51):
It's off the roof for the pavilion in right field.
Kyle Schwarber his first postseason home run of the year.
It's his twenty second of his career, and with a
lightning strike, the Phillies.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Tie it up in one.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Courtesy of the Phillies Radio Network, Schwarber hit two bombs.
That one went four hundred and fifty five feet, the
longest home run of the postseason, and he is just
the second player to clear the right field pavilion in
Dodgers Stadium. Willie Stargell did it twice. So Schwarber now
twenty three career postseason home runs. That's third most all time.
(34:30):
And they needed it. A terrible outing for Clayton Kershaw
there and the Phillies are still in. This Play of
the Day brought to you by Tire Rack for over
forty years. They've been doing it helping us get the
right tires for how and what and where we drive.
Ship fast and free back by free road hazard protection,
convenient installation options like mobile tire installation tirerack dot Com.
(34:52):
The way tire buying should be Joe and Sacramento. Hi, Joe,
what do you have for me today?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Dan?
Speaker 11 (35:01):
First time, long time five eleven, one seventy five. I
just wanted to call to talk about the Dodgers game
last night. I'm a longtime Dodgers fan, and I just
felt like it was super disrespectful for Dave Roberts to
bring Kershaw back out in the eighth inning and really
just kind of have him fall on the sword for
(35:23):
the game. You know, he didn't really have the cleanest
seventh inning, he didn't even record a strikeout. He got
out of that pretty much scotch free. But the fact
that he brought him back in the eighth inning, We're
only down two runs, Suarez was coming out of the game,
We had our heart of the order thinning. It really
just felt like Roberts was playing for today, essentially for
(35:45):
the next game, and it was just one of those
things where you know, Kurt Thaws, this is his last season.
He had a great outing against the Giants in his
last start at home, and you just hope that this
isn't the last time that we see Clayton Kershaw pitch
at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Well, and Joe, look, I understand your fandom, but I
can't be worried about Clayton's feelings. He didn't have it.
I don't like him coming in in relief. I think
it's a different mindset when you come in in relief
as opposed to when you start a game. But I
hope that's not the last time we see him either.
But you know, it goes back to I and I
(36:25):
told you about this over the summer when I ran
into somebody who was part of the Astros organization and
he told me that they were picking up Clayton Kershaw's pitches.
He was tipping. By how he put his hand in
his glove, they knew that it was either going to
be curveball or is going to be a fastball. And
(36:45):
now he could have been saying that, just say, hey,
we didn't cheat, you know, using garbage cans or anything.
He did acknowledge that they did do that, but he
said we were Clayton was tipping his pitches. I'm assuming
that that has been remedy. But man, if you're going
to tell me that Schwarber didn't know what was coming.
I would be surprised, because when you sit on a
(37:08):
pitch like that, you know what's coming. Larry in Austin, Hi, Larry,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (37:16):
Well, then, since the previous caller stole my thunder, let
me just switch to plan be a couple of weeks
ago or you you guys were talking about sports nicknames,
and I just liked to throw in my personal favorite,
and that's Mike Hargro who played for and managed Cleveland.
When he played, he was known as the human reign Delay.
And I think that's a pretty good nickname.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Thank you, Larry. Yeah, because he took forever when he
was in the box. That's when you know. That was
before guys were you know, stepping in or stepping out
and adjusting her gloves and all that. He just took forever. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
That guy kind of sound like Jerry West. Oh boy
wo like the tone of his voice.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
He had a little bit of that in there, all right.
Speaker 10 (38:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Monica in Raleigh, Hi Monica, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (38:03):
Hi? Dana Danettes love to see five three, one thirty
five second time, long time. I just wanted to comment
on Bill Belichick and chime in on that man, We're
just ready for basketball season. As a Carolina fan, I was.
I was sitting in Airport Chili's in Dallas and watching
(38:27):
the Clemson game and it was forty three to ten,
and then the last quarter, with one minute left, he
called two timeouts and they had to switch coverage. It
was insane. And then also the comment with Mike Florio's
interview about him going to the Dolphins. We tried that
with Nick Saban. I'm also a Dolphins fan, so I
don't care for that either. I just want he needs
(38:49):
to just go retire on your laurels with the good
team that you.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Had and that Monica, would you be fine if North
Carolina did become a football school instead of a Bandol Absolutely.
Speaker 13 (39:02):
I would love to be a Texas university or in
Alabama or one of those relevant schools that has relevant
programs in both. However, North Carolina, pernally is the wine
and cheese crowd. So we get backtball.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Thank you, Monica. At least to have a great disposition. Uh.
Bucky in Illinois, Hi, Bucky.
Speaker 11 (39:26):
Hey, Hey, good morning, Dan.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I was I was needing your help.
Speaker 10 (39:31):
I'm needing I'm wanting to start a rumor.
Speaker 11 (39:33):
In that rumor b the Yankees wipe away don Maddingly
and he's the new Yankee head coach.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Hopefully that could help get that man into the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 11 (39:45):
We all know know he deserves it.
Speaker 12 (39:48):
But yeah, I just kind of wanted to get your
thoughts on that, all right, is.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Is Donnie still with the Blue Jays as a hitting
coach or bench coach? I think that sounds right. Yes,
he's still with the Blue Jays, Okay, I'd like for
him to. Yeah, I think there was the thought of
that a while ago, and then he didn't get the job.
(40:12):
He had the Marlins job and the Dodgers job. But
I don't know if those days are gone for him.
I don't know if he wants to do that or
if he'd even get the opportunity with the Yankees. Yes, Marvin,
if Maddalie won a World Series, is he in the
Hall of Fame? It'd be I think now. I think
it would be close. If he was there that last year,
(40:35):
that first year they won the World Series, and then
he had retired, and if he played a role, a
large role in that, then yes, they might be might be.
And having been there in New York to witness that.
I mean, he was a great player, great great fielder
as well. When it used to matter when we'd bring
(40:56):
up those things that he was a really good fielder
as well. But man, I could hit coming up next
to our Ross Tucker and get us ready for the
Eagles in Giants Thursday Night Football
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock that's our streaming partner.
Download the app if you haven't done so. First Hour
brought to you by Express Employment Professionals providing the workforce
you need and you can go to expresspros dot com
to find the location nearest to you. Expresspros dot Com
play the day, Pole question, stat of the Day, All
of that forthcoming eight seven to seven three DP. Show
(00:27):
operator Tyler is sitting by to take your calls. Let
me start with the Blue Jays closing out the Yankees.
The Tigers and Mariners are tied to two games apiece.
The Phillies are still alive as Kyle Schwarber had a
couple of home runs, and the Cubs over the Brewers,
which certainly makes for some interesting baseball coming up. Phillies
(00:48):
at the Dodgers and then the Brewers at the Cubs
tonight to compete with Eagles at the Giants. Seaton, would
you give us the poll question from the first hour?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, First Hour, We're going to go with one from
PAULI here. Worst way to lose a playoff baseball game?
Got four options strikeout looking with men on bass, grounding
into a game ending double play, an error in the
field like a drop ball, something like that, or give
up the game winning home run as a pitcher.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh now, I'll reflect back on what Mitch Williams told
me when he gave up a home run that won
the World Series for Toronto. He gave up the home
run to Joe Carter, and he said, hey, you know,
it's not one of those that you're devastated by it
because I threw my best and he hit my best.
I at least got that moment, and I like it
(01:43):
was a completely different take than I would have had.
But he said, hey, you want to throw your best,
he hit my best and he was the better man
and they won the World Series.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yes, yeah, like some of you know, grounding into a
game ending double play, I don't think that that's a
bad way at all. It sucks, but you put the
ball in play, you know, you make contact that just
didn't find the gap in the infield or whatever. But
I mean, at least you gave your team a chance.
That's a lot different than say like striking out looking
where you don't even swing like that is just terrible
(02:15):
or an error in the field is brutal. That's brutal,
and you lose the game that way, that is just awful.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And having been there when Bill Buckner had the ball
go through his legs and he talked about that, you know,
they win the World Series. Ball goes through his legs,
and you know that lives in infamy. All Right, we'll
settle on a poll question here. I did want to
bring the end the final call with the Yankees against
the Blue Jays. Blue Jays have put up some runs.
(02:41):
The Blue Jays have scored thirty four runs so far
in the playoffs. That's the most by any team through
its first four postseason games in baseball history. Let's gon
(03:01):
stat of today has always brought you by Panini America,
the official trading cards to the program. This is how
it sounded on the Blue Jays Radio network.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
So one two, swinging aimn strike three, screaming flex from Hoffman.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
The Blue Jays are.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Back in the ALCS for the first time since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
They down the Yankees in their own yard, and they're.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
The first team in Baseball's final four.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Okay, Blue Jays Radio Network Dave Simms, of course, is
the play by play voice for the Yankees Radio network.
He joined us a couple of days ago to talk
about maybe his lack of enthusiasm for a Vlad Guerrero
Grand slam. Fritzi called him out on that, so we thought,
let's juxtapose the two calls there. So here's Dave Simms
(03:51):
and the end of the Yankees season.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Just a Pitts swinging in a miss and that'll do it.
The Rattle Blue Jays going to the American League Championship Series,
which starts on Sunday, as Hoffman was a very defiant
look at the Yankee dugout now, very sad ending to
a Yankee season here in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Okay, Todd, you, of course the big judge of Dave
simms enthusiasm or lack thereof a little.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Morbid I was gonna hoping he would take it with him.
How about that Blue Jays? He didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
That's all right, he did not. You don't are you
okay with that kind of you know, very somber call.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
It ended the season, so I can wink at that,
but it's very very somber, and I guess you're trying
to capture your audience. The Yankee fans are upset and said,
so you have to be sad.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, it understandable.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
So a big moment for the Blue Jays and then
moving on to the Alcs that should be acknowledge even
as a Yankee.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You know, yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (04:51):
It wasn't a huge play like a game ending home
run by the Blue Jays where he had to do
the excitement and then bring it back down. It was
more and with all the men left on base, you
could feel the disappointment coming. So he captured the tone.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And I think that there was speculation. There wasn't anything
that was concrete that maybe Aaron Boone would lose his
job if they got swept and we had Christopher mad
Dog russo on. He goes, Nope, front office loves Boone,
loves Cashman. Cashman's been there in some capacity since nineteen
eighty six. But Aaron Boone looks like he'll survive even
(05:26):
though they got one win out of this. And you
have to start to wonder, are the Yankees okay with this?
From a certain standpoint? Are they okay that your team
is good? You have maybe the best player in the game,
you have a pretty hefty payroll, But are you okay
not going to the alcs? Like, how would you sum
(05:49):
this up? If you're a Yankee person in the front
office or Aaron Boone, Is there any part of you
that goes okay, like did you exceed X expectations? Because
I would be disappointed if I But you know, growing
up and seeing the Yankees, when the Yankees were truly
dominating and spending more money than anybody, But that's not
(06:10):
the case anymore. They've almost become kind of prudent, where
you know, we're gonna pick and choose, We're not going
to go crazy on the Sodo contract, and you know,
we've got a couple of good guys here. I mean,
they overpaid for a couple of plays. Are they still
paying Jacoby Elsbury? He might he might still be getting
paid by them, but it just feels like and they
(06:33):
didn't have Garrett Cole, so you got I mean, that's
one of the best pitchers in the game. But I
don't know, this wouldn't have happened. They wouldn't have you know,
been kind of stuck in neutral with George Steinbrenner. I
just can't imagine he would go, yeah, I'm Okay, with that,
they've won one World Series game since what twenty six,
(06:53):
twenty sixteen? Yes, Todd, is that right, Marvin two thousand
and nine, oh, two thousand and nine.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Yeah, the last time they won was against the Phillies
in two thousand and nine when they won the World six.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
No, No, I'm talking about winning a game ties. So
they won one World Series game that was last year? Yes,
yeahs yeah, okay, all right? Yes?
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Is it enough of a band aid that they can
say they knocked out the Red Sox in the playoffs?
As far as who's keeping their jobs and having anything
positive to say about this season for the Yankee.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I don't think this was a great Red Sox team.
I think this Red Sox team felt like they overachieved
a little bit. But if I'm the Yankee Yankee fan, no,
this ain't about the Red Sox anymore. No, because that
Red Sox aren't the second best team or the or
the best team in the American League. You know, Toronto
is a young team and they got a lot of power,
(07:45):
score a lot of runs. You know, Tigers aren't going
away anytime soon. Uh, Seattle up and coming young team,
you know, so you got to start thinking bigger picture
here than Hey, we beat the Red Sox. That wouldn't
satisfy me. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
The Yankees are currently at sixteen street seasons without winning
a World Series, and that ties their longest stretch in
the history of the franchise. They went from seventy nine
till ninety six without winning, so sixteen years then as well.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And having been there when George would fire Billy Martin
a couple of times, he just didn't, you know, and
it was very reactionary. You know, you were never surprised
that George was going to do something like that. And granted,
there has to be somewhere in between of today's you
know Yankees back to when George was there, but still accountability.
(08:33):
And I'm not, you know, I guess, pleading for or
suggesting they fire Aaron Boone. I mean, I'm not a
big fan of his from the standpoint of analytics. And
here's a guy who played the game, brother played the game,
his dad played the games, dad managed, Like gut feeling
still has a place in the game, and it doesn't
always feel that way when I look at the Yankees.
(08:55):
But I'm just surprised. But then you're going to say,
or least I would say, all right, and who you
bringing in? Because how many great managers out there, and
Aaron Boone, I think is a very good manager. I
just don't like when you bring out the binder and
all of a sudden it's like you're ordering off a
menu or something. Yeah, Pauline, I went back and look
at the Blue Jays history.
Speaker 8 (09:17):
They won the World Series in ninety two and ninety three,
and then they didn't appear in the postseason for twenty years.
Would you sign up for that if you're a fan.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Pickets in ninety two and ninety three.
Speaker 8 (09:31):
I would like, if you're a Cleveland Guardians fan, you
can win the next two World Series and you don't
make the playoffs again for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I would sign up for that. Yeah, you have to
write if I'm in Cleveland, yes the choice, Yes, yes,
yes I would. I mean the Marlin fans they did
that twice where you okay, you're gonna win, and then
you're not gonna do anything, and then you'll win again
and then not do anything. Yeah, Marvin Marlin's got fans.
Ah yeah, wow. All right, So eight seven seven three
(10:03):
DP show A few things talk about we'll talk to
Florio about this Belichick situation in North Carolina. And when
you have to put out statements, you know that, Hey,
we totally backed Bill Bellie, Like, we're what five games
in and we're putting out statements. That doesn't bode well here,
(10:26):
And I think what's happened. A lot of this has happened,
and that is we're blaming his young girlfriend. She gets,
you know, like, oh my gosh, you know, how does
he let this happen? Exactly? Bill never had messes in
New England. Never he controlled everything, and now it seems
(10:48):
like he controls nothing. So I put the blame is
on Bill. Bill has to get this right. And everything
that you're hearing is like it's all negative. Now, granted
they do have two wins. It's just they've been blown
out three times and the two wins aren't impressive. But
if you didn't have all this drama, and let's say
you had a groundswell of support, the locker room wasn't fractured. Guys,
(11:13):
are you know there's positive positivity out there? Hey that
guy looks pretty good. Hey we got a bright future here. Well,
you don't have any of that. And if you're a
recruit or you're the parents of a recruit, you want
your kid going to North Carolina, and North Carolina has
never had a problem with getting top talent. Never. Every
(11:33):
single draft, it feels like, oh, another player at in
North Carolina. This is on Bill. Bill's gonna wear this
and this will be his last up. I can't imagine
the Dolphins are gonna go, hey, when we get rid
of Mike McDaniel, why don't you just come down here
and break down schules all time victory record. I don't
see that happening. But man, there's a lot of reporting
(11:55):
going on with this with Belichick North Carolina. But you know,
the owners should not be on his girlfriend. Okay, I
mean she's acting like she's twenty four years of age.
She's acting like she's in charge. Bill has allowed this
to happen. He allowed this to happen.
Speaker 9 (12:13):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I can't imagine if he was coaching the Patriots, she
would be on the sidelines. I can't imagine that she
would be involved in an inner like this does never happened.
So it's not just her and I think she's getting
she's the focal point because we all have this, you know,
same reaction of he's seventy three and she's twenty four.
(12:36):
But that's why I wonder where his priorities are. I
truly do. I don't know if he wants to continue
to be, you know, this mastermind, this great football coach.
It just feels like something is missing there, like his
enthusiasm doesn't seem like it's pointed towards football. And everybody
that he hired. His son is his defensive coordinator. He
(12:58):
brought in Mike Lombardi. I mean, he brought in all
the people. And plus when you recruit, he recruited, so
you bring in freshman and you bring in transfers. So
those are players that Bill is bringing in. Seventy players
he brought in, not I'm going to inherit Mac Brown's roster.
(13:18):
If you said in North Carolina, hey you want to
do over, you want to keep mac Brown? I think
we know the answer to that. All right, we'll get
to pull questions, we'll get your phone calls, and we'll
talk to Florio coming up. Also the Cincinnati Bengals. You
know when that or I should say, the Browns when
the head coach doesn't realize that Joe Flacco is going
(13:39):
to be traded. I don't know what that says about
Kevin Stefanski, but he was like, I'm surprised we traded
Joe all right, Andrew Berry, the GM pulled the trade off,
and then your head coach is like, Okay, I'm fine
with it. I'm fine with it, and you got Flacco
playing against the Green Bay Packers again. He can be
(14:01):
the second quarterback in NFL history pro football history to
beat the same team in the same season while playing
for two different teams. I'll give you the answer to
that after this Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
He's Mike Krman, I'm Dan Bayern. We have a brand
new fantasy football podcast called I Want Your Flex. Twice
a week, every Tuesday and Friday, we come up with
new episodes to not only look back at what happened,
what you need to do at that minute, and also
look ahead of what's coming up in the fantasy football world.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
That's right, Dan.
Speaker 10 (14:44):
Every week we're going to scour the waiver wire to
find the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup, six starts,
fantasy football players rankings. To get you ready to dominate
the competition, listen.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
To I Want Your Flex with Mike Carmon and Met
Dan Byer on the iHeartRadio app podcast and Wherever you
Beat your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Before the commercial break, I said that Joe Flacco could
become just the second quarterback since nineteen fifty to start
and win a game against the same opponent on two
different teams in a single season. The only other quarterback
to do it did it in nineteen sixty two. This
is really tough, so I don't know if I mean,
(15:25):
you'd have to be a really really big fan of
this football team or this quarterback, because the only other
quarterback to do that was Jack Kemp. He beat the
Titans as a member of the Chargers and the Bills.
That was nineteen sixty two. Stat of the Day stat
(15:45):
of the Day that best s Oat of the day
stat of the Day.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
It comes that what stat of the Day?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America,
the official trading car The Dan Patrick Show. Mike Florio
probably knew the answer. He knows All Pro Football Talk
Live co host and contributor to Football Night in America
and his latest novel, Big Shield, definitely not about the NFL,
but it's a tale of gambling, the mob, and pro football,
(16:17):
but definitely not the NFL. The ebook available on Amazon
for only ninety nine cents. Good morning, Mike, how are
you great?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Dan?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Full disclosure, I had no idea the answer to that
awesome stat of the day.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
What does it say about the Browns and Kevin Stefanski
that he had no idea that his backup quarterback was
traded to the Bengals.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I'm surprised he said it out loud because I feel
like so much of what happens in Cleveland, they understand
that in order to hold these jobs, they are at
the whims of whatever the owner decides to do. And
I think the owner has created destruction. Now this is
just my opinion. I think he's created a structure where
it looks like there's a plan, it looks like there's
a program, it looks like there's a formula for everything.
(17:03):
But at the end of the day, it's just what
the owner wants. And I think everyone's in tune with
figuring out what the owner wants, and when the owner
wants something, it happens, so doesn't surprise me at all.
It doesn't surprise me. They traded him, I mean, they
benched him, They saved some money, they upgrade a draft pick,
and they move on from a guy that no longer
fit into their plan. So they got something out of him.
They have to be happy with this, all right.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Given all the coverage with Belichick with North Carolina, what's
your number one question about this situation today?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
How much money changes hands? And in which direction does
it go when it finally ends. I feel like that's
where this is headed. And those companion statements that came
out at nine thirty six pm Eastern last night, Like
if you hadn't been paying attention to all the reports
that are out there, and you just happened to open
your Twitter and you're a North Carolina fan and you
see that the next post since the one about Drake
(17:56):
May that they were shamed into making on Monday, is
this statement that Bill Belichick's committed to the team, and
then the statement from Bubba Cunningham the ad team is
committed to him. It's like, why are we doing this?
It just legitimizes that there's this avalanche right now of
reporting that they've made no effort to push back against
of dysfunction and deterioration and just flat out disintegration of
(18:18):
the program. And I feel like that this is just
the idea of if I'm going to go, you're going
to pay me to go, And from the team's perspective,
if you're going to go, we're not going to pay you.
And maybe you're going to pay part of your one
million dollar price tag to get out of here. And
they're just it feels like they're staking out what the
endgame and the dissolution of this is going to be.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Hell damaged? Is his NFL reputation.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I don't think it affects anything he's done in the NFL,
I think.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
But future employment, Oh.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Well, let me just add this caveat in advance. We
know that there are plenty of teams in the NFL
that don't know what the hell they're doing, and it
all comes from the owner. Dysfunctional teams do dysfunctional things,
as our friend Big Kat says, And I can't rule
out an owner of a team that is chronically bad
(19:13):
and they've got a revolving door at the coaching position
saying what the hell? Nothing else we've tried, has worked,
Let's give it a shot. But here's the problem. How
do you sell this Bill Belichick to a fan base
and to the media that cover the team. Who's going
to renew season tickets when they find out that this
Bill Belichick is coming in to take over. I think
(19:34):
that's the hardest thing. From a football standpoint, what the hell,
maybe he can recapture some magic. From a business standpoint,
I don't know how you help your bottom line by
trotting out Bill Belichick post North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
But could you see a scenario where the Dolphins bring
him in if they fire Mike McDaniel, even though he
would be trying to pass Don Shula's record in the
all time victory list while being a Dolphins coach in
the process.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
I think that's a practical impediment to getting the fans
to buy in. That's the key. These guys. They act
like they're obsessed with winning the Super Bowl. All we
want to do is win the Super Bowl. We want
to win the Super Bowl. Well, you know what, only
one team wins it, but they all win at the
bank vault. And if you are going to make a
hire that sabotages your ability to fill your stadium. You're
(20:29):
just asking for red ink in a business where there
should be none. So I think that is the one
factor that we need to keep in mind here. He
will be received very differently wherever he would go next
in the NFL than he would have been two years ago. Now,
I won't rule out that there's some owner that's going
to decide I don't care, this is what I want
to do, but I don't know who it would be.
(20:51):
And I think that whole Don Shula Bill Belichick feud
would be a factor against him going to Miami.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
But it feels like Mike McDaniel's are already done in Miami.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Oh, I agree with you. I agree with you, But
that doesn't mean the replacement's going to be Bill Belichick.
They need to find a middle ground between the Brian
Flores Belichick type that couldn't get along with Tuatogo I
Lowe and it was kind of a hard charging task
master and Mike McDaniel, who's everybody's buddy and he's just
really chill and he's authentic. Authentic works until you're piling
(21:22):
up losses and you see this guy who seems to
be unaffected by the fact that they're piling up losses,
so they need to find someone in the middle. But
this is what dysfunctional teams do. It doesn't work out
with one coach, so the next guy we hire is
the exact opposite from a personality standpoint, and they just
swing back and forth between those two types.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for flipping somebody off
for Jerry Jones. I'm always curious if the commissioner has
a book, you know, like he just goes over, opens
his desk and goes, let me see you got that
flipping off fans two hundred and fifty Like, how do
they come up up with two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars for Jerry Jones.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Well, sixteen years ago Bud Adams, the late founder of
the Oilers who were then the Titans, he got fined
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for two of them.
So I don't know if it's inflation cost of living increase.
But Dan, here's my big takeaway. Beyond the fact that
Jerry had the ridiculous I meant to give a thumbs up,
and you know, my hand has a life of its own,
(22:24):
a mind of his own, and I gave the figure.
But I think Jerry should say, you know what, next time,
I'll just throw a drink on them, because that only
costs three hundred thousand dollars when David Tepper did it,
that's a bargain in comparison. If I really, if I'm
really upset, I'll just throw the drink and pay the
extra fifty grand.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Dang two hundred and fifty K. And then did the
team Jonathan Gannon got fined. Did the team do it
or the NFL?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
The team did it, and the NFL was satisfied by it.
And you know a lot of times what happens isn't
they don't come out and admit it. The league makes
it clear to the team, you need to do something
about this, or we will. I think it was appropriate.
He crossed the line. We're in an age where you
can't put hands on your players, and he made contact
with MRI D Marcato multiple times, including kind of an
aggressive slap to the arm as he walked away, So
(23:11):
I think it was appropriate. The real question is does
the locker room accept his apology, Do they buy it?
Did it seem sincere or was it a hostage video
type of an apology that he had to make, and
we'll see as soon as this weekend when it's time
for them to play, we'll see what kind of performance
he gets from his players.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
So that Jerry Jones's middle finger is two and a
half times worse than Jonathan Gannon's action correct.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Well, again, I don't know where the book is that
tells them what to do. And we always hear that
owners are held to a higher standard than players, and
sometimes they are. Jerry Judy of the Browns did the
double barrel middle finger to Ravens fans and his fine
was somewhere between ten and twenty thousand for that. So
in this situation, they hold the owners to a higher standard.
(24:00):
So I don't know. I just wonder like if Jonathan
Gannon had messed with the wrong guy and we would
have had a Latrell Spreewell situation on the sideline. I mean,
that's the problem. There are certain guys in the NFL
who aren't going to take what Mriid Morcado received from
Jonathan Gannon. So I think it's probably wise for coaches
(24:20):
to not lay hands on these gladiators who are out
there hitting people for a living.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I'm talking to Mike Florio and his novel Big Shield.
It's about gambling, the mob, and a pro football league
that is not the NFL. The e book available at
Amazon for only ninety nine cents. You know. The mac
Jones situation now, it's not surprising for me because Kyle
Shanahan didn't like him going into that draft, and then
you get him, even though they don't have weapons. He's
(24:48):
played really well. I don't want to go as far
as to say do they have a quarterback controversy? But
if mac Jones plays great again, I think six touchdowns
in one interception, you know, could this be a quarterback controversy?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Here's the big picture, and the forty nine ers were
very wise dan to sign mac Jones, not to a
one year deal like they did with Sam Darnold, two
years with mac Jones at around eight million dollars. The
way that the brock Party contract that was negotiated in
the offseason is structured two years is what Purdy is
guaranteed and the forty nine ers have, and they build
(25:27):
this into all their contracts. A lot of teams, the
next year becomes guaranteed right after the league year begins.
In the middle of March. The forty nine ers always
demand until April one to make a decision, So they
have until April one of twenty twenty seven to make
a decision about brock Purty. After the twenty six season, Well,
there's a lot of football to be played between now
(25:49):
and the end of the twenty twenty six season. By then,
you know, a lot of times you think you have
a problem, you have an issue. What are we going
to do? The decision reveals itself in time. By the
time we get to the end of the twenty twenty
six season, I think will know and they'll know which
of the two guys is the long term play, and
they'll have a seamless way if they want to do it,
to pivot to mac Jones and get away from the
(26:10):
remainder of brock Purty's contract. That's the key. So for now,
they got both guys for the next two years, and
then they'll make a decision, and you know it'll be
driven by health. Between now and then, they can always
play the one hundred percent card, where brock Purty plays
only if he's one hundred percent, Well, is he one
hundred percent? No, I've decided he's not we're gonna play
Mac Jones. But hey, in a league where plenty of
(26:32):
teams don't have one quarterback who can get it done,
they're fortunate to have two. And I know they've had
plenty of misadventures at the quarterback position, but they're in
a good spot right now because they've got two guys
who can play. And I think we see how it
plays out between now and week eighteen and twenty twenty six,
and I think by then they'll know and will know
which of the two guys is the answer for.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
The long haul. Is John Harbaugh safe in Baltimore?
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Probably not. And it's been a long relationship, and you know,
he falls into that category of guy who would get
fired if he gets fired, or if he would resign,
or if it would be a mutual parting, and he'd
probably lands somewhere else right away if he wanted to,
like Andy Reid did, like Mike Tomlin. Would you know,
there's that thirty percent chunk of the Steelers fan base
(27:18):
that is ready to fire Mike Tomlin anytime they lose
two games in a row. There have been times over
the years where it's felt like it's coming to an end.
Between the Ravens and Harball, and it's always skewed toward
him staying. This has got to be the biggest test
of the relationship between the front office and Harball that
we've ever seen. As the roster disintegrates, the team can't win.
(27:40):
They got embarrassed at home by the Texans over the weekend,
a team that had never won in Baltimore went in
there and blew them out. So there's gonna be a
lot of pressure in that owner coach relationship with the
GM kind of caught in the middle. What's going to
happen after this season? So I think there's a very
real chance based on what we've seen through five weeks,
then a mutual parting is what happens when the season ends.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Because it seems like we've focused on Mike Tomlin's tenure
in Pittsburgh and here they are just kind of quiet. Now.
You know, they can't control what the other teams do
or don't do in the injuries, but you know, I
thought this might be the last year for Tomlin in
Pittsburgh and maybe Aaron Rodgers, like they were all in
together for this one year and then Aaron would go
(28:24):
on his way and Mike Tomlin would go into TV.
But here they are leading the division and we have
no other reason to think that they won't be there
at the very end of the season.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
The last two weeks had been incredible for the Steelers.
They beat the Vikings in Ireland and the rest of
the division has gone a combined ohen six. So here
they are and the Bengals they're done. The Ravens seem
to be done. And this is just a reminder. And look,
I don't I don't want to complain about the business
that we've chosen, but we spend the off season talking
(28:58):
about how the next season it's going to go. With
this assumption that everyone's gonna stay healthy. We know guys
are going to get injured. It's bad for him to say, well,
this guy could get injured, that guy can get injured,
but we know it's gonna happen. Five weeks to the
day since the regular season began, the Ravens and the
Bengals have been decimated. For the Bengals, all it took
was one guy. For the Ravens. It's a bunch of guys,
but it changes everything. And here are the Steelers at
(29:20):
three and one and they're sitting pretty and it's working.
They finally had a game where both the offense and
the defense showed up at the same time and they
got that win. They stole one from the Patriots. They
shouldn't have won. But here they are, and yeah, that's
you know, as a wise man once said, they sweaty
played a games and that's part of the fun of it.
Because right now, Dan, who's the best team in the AFC?
(29:42):
I really don't know the answer to that question.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Is there a chance that Deshaun Watson plays again.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Well for the Browns this year? Probably not. There's a
subtext where he's trying to get healthy and at some
point he shows up with a doctor's slip saying this
man is clear to play football, and the Browns have
to make a decision. They're not going to cut him
because that would trigger a one hundred and thirty five
million dollar dead cap charge next year. They're trying to
ride out this contract because they've structured it so the
bigger cap hits come later when the cap is higher.
(30:13):
But but the other thing to keep in mind, there's
an insurance policy that covers him for this year if
he plays. That insurance policy becomes jeopardized. I don't know
how much they would lose by way of the money
they get for the insurance they had against injury. It
gets a little complicated. I think they'd like to finesse it.
So he's on the team and he's around, but he's
(30:34):
not on the roster, and we'll see if it comes
to that. But there's other business issues that go into
this calculation. But at this point, I don't think there's
any Browns fan that is curious to see what Deshaun
Watson can do on the football field. They're ready to
move on from him, but the reality is he's most
likely going to be on the team through twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Have you ever done a list of the worst decisions
made in NFL? Like if I said the Browns moved
on from Baker Mayfield and now he's an MVP candidate
in Tampa and then you go all in and sign
to Shaun Watson. Has there been a decision that has
been worse than that in NFL history?
Speaker 5 (31:16):
No? No, And I've said before without the Baker Mayfield angle,
the Deshaun Watson contract and trade is the single worst
transaction in NFL history because it's the combination of and
we get caught up in the money two hundred and
thirty million, fully guaranteed. It's easy to lose sight of
the three first round picks and multiple other picks that
were sent to Houston. Those are affordable young players who
(31:40):
become the nucleus of your team if you use the
picks right. They've lost all those guys, and so the
fact that they're even able to win a game, the
fact that they went to the playoffs two years ago
is remarkable given what they gave up to get Deshaun Watson.
So they gave up a lot, they've paid him a lot,
they've got nothing in return. Yes, I believe firmly that
that if there was a list, I don't know what
(32:02):
number two would be, but number one would be the
Deshaun Watson acquisition by the Browns.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
But what about the Herschel Walker trade?
Speaker 5 (32:10):
That would be that's probably number two, right, number two, right, number.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Two, Ricky Williams with the Saints. Is that up. They
gave up all their draft picks and Mike Dickett wanted
to go play golf, and so take.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
That that's in there, that's in there now now. Back
in those days, again, the draft picks made a lot
more money relative to what they make.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Now.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
The important thing to remember now, since twenty eleven, they
have configured the rookie pay system so that those guys
are cheap and you have them for four years. If
it's a first round pick, you have them for five years.
And that's how you manage a team where you pay
a few guys market value. The guts of your team
are these young guys that you have gotten for peanuts
(32:54):
in comparison to what it cost to get a veteran.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Great stuff is always Mike, have a great weekend. Thanks
for joining us, buddy.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Thanks Dan, good talking to you.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Mike Florio. Pro Football Talk, That's the show that precedes hours,
and his website Pro Football Talk must read every single morning.
His latest novel, Big Shield, is available ebook at Amazon
for only ninety nine cents. We'll take a break. Our
play of the day is up next to them. Your
phone calls right after this.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Oh my God, the play of the day.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
This is the Play of the day.
Speaker 10 (33:43):
Check this out.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
He's from the right side.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
That ball's groun steep to right field. Hernandez doesn't even move.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
It is long gone.
Speaker 9 (33:51):
It's off the roof for the pavilion in right field.
Kyle Schwarber his first postseason home run of the year.
It's his twenty second of his career, and with a
lightning strike, the Phillies.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Tie it up in one.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Courtesy of the Phillies Radio Network, Schwarber hit two bombs.
That one went four hundred and fifty five feet, the
longest home run of the postseason, and he is just
the second player to clear the right field pavilion in
Dodgers Stadium. Willie Stargell did it twice. So Schwarber now
twenty three career postseason home runs. That's third most all time.
(34:30):
And they needed it. A terrible outing for Clayton Kershaw
there and the Phillies are still in. This Play of
the Day brought to you by Tire Rack for over
forty years. They've been doing it helping us get the
right tires for how and what and where we drive.
Ship fast and free back by free road hazard protection,
convenient installation options like mobile tire installation tirerack dot Com.
(34:52):
The way tire buying should be Joe and Sacramento. Hi, Joe,
what do you have for me today?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Dan?
Speaker 11 (35:01):
First time, long time five eleven, one seventy five. I
just wanted to call to talk about the Dodgers game
last night. I'm a longtime Dodgers fan, and I just
felt like it was super disrespectful for Dave Roberts to
bring Kershaw back out in the eighth inning and really
just kind of have him fall on the sword for
(35:23):
the game. You know, he didn't really have the cleanest
seventh inning, he didn't even record a strikeout. He got
out of that pretty much scotch free. But the fact
that he brought him back in the eighth inning, We're
only down two runs, Suarez was coming out of the game,
We had our heart of the order thinning. It really
just felt like Roberts was playing for today, essentially for
(35:45):
the next game, and it was just one of those
things where you know, Kurt Thaws, this is his last season.
He had a great outing against the Giants in his
last start at home, and you just hope that this
isn't the last time that we see Clayton Kershaw pitch
at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Well, and Joe, look, I understand your fandom, but I
can't be worried about Clayton's feelings. He didn't have it.
I don't like him coming in in relief. I think
it's a different mindset when you come in in relief
as opposed to when you start a game. But I
hope that's not the last time we see him either.
But you know, it goes back to I and I
(36:25):
told you about this over the summer when I ran
into somebody who was part of the Astros organization and
he told me that they were picking up Clayton Kershaw's pitches.
He was tipping. By how he put his hand in
his glove, they knew that it was either going to
be curveball or is going to be a fastball. And
(36:45):
now he could have been saying that, just say, hey,
we didn't cheat, you know, using garbage cans or anything.
He did acknowledge that they did do that, but he
said we were Clayton was tipping his pitches. I'm assuming
that that has been remedy. But man, if you're going
to tell me that Schwarber didn't know what was coming.
I would be surprised, because when you sit on a
(37:08):
pitch like that, you know what's coming. Larry in Austin, Hi, Larry,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (37:16):
Well, then, since the previous caller stole my thunder, let
me just switch to plan be a couple of weeks
ago or you you guys were talking about sports nicknames,
and I just liked to throw in my personal favorite,
and that's Mike Hargro who played for and managed Cleveland.
When he played, he was known as the human reign Delay.
And I think that's a pretty good nickname.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Thank you, Larry. Yeah, because he took forever when he
was in the box. That's when you know. That was
before guys were you know, stepping in or stepping out
and adjusting her gloves and all that. He just took forever. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
That guy kind of sound like Jerry West. Oh boy
wo like the tone of his voice.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
He had a little bit of that in there, all right.
Speaker 10 (38:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Monica in Raleigh, Hi Monica, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (38:03):
Hi? Dana Danettes love to see five three, one thirty
five second time, long time. I just wanted to comment
on Bill Belichick and chime in on that man, We're
just ready for basketball season. As a Carolina fan, I was.
I was sitting in Airport Chili's in Dallas and watching
(38:27):
the Clemson game and it was forty three to ten,
and then the last quarter, with one minute left, he
called two timeouts and they had to switch coverage. It
was insane. And then also the comment with Mike Florio's
interview about him going to the Dolphins. We tried that
with Nick Saban. I'm also a Dolphins fan, so I
don't care for that either. I just want he needs
(38:49):
to just go retire on your laurels with the good
team that you.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Had and that Monica, would you be fine if North
Carolina did become a football school instead of a Bandol Absolutely.
Speaker 13 (39:02):
I would love to be a Texas university or in
Alabama or one of those relevant schools that has relevant
programs in both. However, North Carolina, pernally is the wine
and cheese crowd. So we get backtball.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Thank you, Monica. At least to have a great disposition. Uh.
Bucky in Illinois, Hi, Bucky.
Speaker 11 (39:26):
Hey, Hey, good morning, Dan.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I was I was needing your help.
Speaker 10 (39:31):
I'm needing I'm wanting to start a rumor.
Speaker 11 (39:33):
In that rumor b the Yankees wipe away don Maddingly
and he's the new Yankee head coach.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Hopefully that could help get that man into the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 11 (39:45):
We all know know he deserves it.
Speaker 12 (39:48):
But yeah, I just kind of wanted to get your
thoughts on that, all right, is.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Is Donnie still with the Blue Jays as a hitting
coach or bench coach? I think that sounds right. Yes,
he's still with the Blue Jays, Okay, I'd like for
him to. Yeah, I think there was the thought of
that a while ago, and then he didn't get the job.
(40:12):
He had the Marlins job and the Dodgers job. But
I don't know if those days are gone for him.
I don't know if he wants to do that or
if he'd even get the opportunity with the Yankees. Yes, Marvin,
if Maddalie won a World Series, is he in the
Hall of Fame? It'd be I think now. I think
it would be close. If he was there that last year,
(40:35):
that first year they won the World Series, and then
he had retired, and if he played a role, a
large role in that, then yes, they might be might be.
And having been there in New York to witness that.
I mean, he was a great player, great great fielder
as well. When it used to matter when we'd bring
(40:56):
up those things that he was a really good fielder
as well. But man, I could hit coming up next
to our Ross Tucker and get us ready for the
Eagles in Giants Thursday Night Football
Hosts And Creators
Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
Marvin Prince
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!