October 29, 2025 • 51 mins
DP and the Danettes recap game 4 of the World Series. PFT Live co-host Chris Simms isn't quite ready to hand the AFC to Kansas City and still sees the Lions as the team to beat coming out of the NFC. DP and the Danettes also react to Michael Jordan's comments regarding load management in today's NBA.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Our one on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan Ed's
Dan Patrick Show. Not exactly the encore we were hoping for,
but the Blue Jays handled the Dodgers and that series
is now tied at two games. Apiece game coming up tonight.
Still no update on George Springer. He missed game four.
His status for Game five is unclear. Otani pitched, he pitched, Okay,
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didn't do anything at the plate, but you had Vlad
Guerrero Junior, the third has been the best player so
far in the World Series. Twenty six hits, seven home runs,
fourteen RBIs in the playoffs. These are all Blue Jays
franchise records for a single postseason. But he took advantage
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of a meat ball that O'tani hung, and O'tani knew
it right away, because that's a pitch that Otani hits
out of the ballpark. But Vlad Guerrero sitting on that
pitch and it was flat and he took it deep.
So the Blue Jays, you know, they battled adversity. They're
a big underdog here, and you win that game. Following
what happened the night before, but when you think about it,
(01:12):
I think they left nineteen runners in scoring position in
the previous game. They could easily be up three games
to one right now, tied it two. They have more
hits than the Dodgers do. But this here's your pivotal
game five coming up tonight. All right, Seeton poll question
for the first hour, what are we thinking?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well, we're just batting this one around right now. For
whom is tonight's game more must winish?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
For whom is tonight's game more must win ash?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I would say the Dodgers? Really, yeah, yeah, because then
you go back to Toronto. Oh, look at Marvin all
decked out in his Blue Jay gear.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Come on, let's go.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
We're doing for Carlos Delgado.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Come on, you could be a bench coach there. But
don Mattingly come on, Oh how many?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Lefty?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Okay, we'll take a left to Yeah. Yeah, I would
say must winnish for the Dodgers, because then it goes
back to Toronto. So what else do you have?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
We also had another one or whom are you rooting.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
For the Blue Jays or Dodgers? Well we had this
is a breakdown prior to the start of the World
Series four states that they were rooting for the Dodgers.
Everybody else was rooting for the Blue Jays. That was
the breakdown across the country. I could see that. I
don't know if they're rooting for the Blue Jays or
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rooting against the Dodgers. That you know, I have the
Dodgers graduated to the evil empire, you know, with the Yankees.
Even then, when you look at the Yankees in the
mid nineties, they weren't they weren't, you know, an evil
empire players. You didn't like a rod but you liked
Paul O'Neill, and you like Bernie Williams and Mo Revere
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and Derek Jeter. You know, maybe it was the old
George Steinbrenner. You didn't like him. But still do you
dislike the Dodgers. I don't think o'tani has graduated to
that where now you don't like him, or now you
root against him, because it's still a great story and
you see something you've never seen before. But Freddie Freeman,
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Clayton Kershaw, Dave Roberts, Mookie Beds, those aren't guys that
you root against. You may not root for, but I
don't think you go oh, I'm looking forward to seeing
that guy lose. You might have thought that with Roger Clemens,
with a Rod maybe Andy Pettitt. But you know, for
the most part, those Yankees in the mid nineties were
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you know, just they were great players. Those were great teams.
But I don't think the Dodgers have graduated where you
may not root for them, but I don't think you're
rooting necessarily against them unless just the whole premise of
they spend more money than everybody else and that's not fair.
Maybe that is probably what you know, but the Yankees
did the same thing. You know, people say, oh, they're
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buying another World Series. Well, okay, here are the Dodgers.
The Mets tried to do it. But maybe that's what
it would be. Is I don't like what they stand
for or their business model, but every every fan would
want this if your team could spend the money, you go, hey,
I don't care what you think, and that would be
my attitude as well. We we are playing by the
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same rules as you. We just said to show, Hey, Otani,
how about we defer sixty eight million dollars a year
after you retire? How about you play for two million dollars. Okay,
they just kind of circumvented the rule. You know, this
was a New England Patriots Bill Belichick kind of moment
where you go, wait, what are they doing? Anybody else
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can do this as well. I mean, I don't know
if Soto said, Hey, I'm going to play for two
million dollars and then defer all my money to help
out the Mets. I don't think that happened.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, A Rod wasn't really part of that great Yankees run.
He came after the fact that that's when it was
really hated.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Okay, they were really he got one ring.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
With them, but he missed that like Paul O'Neill waves
say yeah, Ernie Williams and all that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
That's fair. Yeah, I think uh.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And Arod's got a documentary out it's a Rod versus
Alex and I guess his two personalities. They didn't interview
me for that, which I thought maybe I'd get a
cameo in there, since I was going to say we
nearly came to blows. It was he nearly punched me,
because there wouldn't have been blows, it would have been
(05:41):
what happened?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Did he did he hit me?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Okay, But I thought maybe I'd get a cameo in there,
but I didn't. I don't even know if they bring
up the interview that we had with him that kind
of started that mess with him and Jeter when he
was calling out Jeter and saying that he doesn't do
anything as good as Alex does. Why are they paying
him eighteen million dollars a year?
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Yes, Paul, it's probably one of those documentaries where the
subject of the documentary is also the executive producer, which
is really not good for objectivity. Executive pruiser Alex Rodriguez,
How was that going to be objective?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think I made the cut there.
No one reached out, no one said, hey, can we
use a clip from your radio show when Alex called
out Derek Jeter and then got mad at me because
we played it on the radio show. And then he
did an interview with Scott rab and said the same thing,
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and I think Esquire magazine the same exact stuff. When
he was interviewed by Scott rab And, I go, how
can you be mad at me when you said the
same thing to a magazine writer? Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
Going back to the nineties, Yankees. Their players weren't likable,
and even their winning wasn't dislikable. It's what happened after
when if you're a fan of the Pirates or whatever team,
you knew if you had a star player, the Yankees
going to grab them. That It's almost more like the
late nineties early two thousand Yankees, where hey, Kevin Brown
and he's a Yankee, and Mike we've seen that he's
a Yankee.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Johnny Damon, come on over here.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
So like the Dodgers, there's no reason to dislike them.
They're following the rules, they're doing great work, and their
players are likable. But it's the effect where you realize
there's like a fifty percent chance that Paul Skeens will
be a Dodger in two years.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, but you know, the Yankees did this. But the
Yankees were the first to really monetize having their own network.
When you think about the Yes network, they were so
far ahead of everybody else. And then they treated this
and we've talked about this before, they treated their starting
lineup like it was must see TV, like Thursday Night
NBC Must see TV with Friends, where you're seeing your stars,
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you're seeing star power and I thought it was brilliant.
But that's what the Dodgers are doing. They're spending the money.
We're going to bring in people that you know when
you tune it. You know, the Blue Jays, I don't
know them. I know Bishett, and I know Vlad and Springer,
but you know they're they're trotting out. I got Otani,
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I got, you know, the biggest sports star in the world.
And you got Freddie Freeman, you got Mookie Betts, you
got that Dodger backdrop, the Dodger uniforms. The stars come
out to watch the dot you know, they treat it
like that, it's an experience to watch. And I think
that's a you know, brilliant, brilliant business plan. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I just prefer teams that win rings in a more
fiscally conservative manner.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah who does that?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Who doesn't?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's just I just prefer that. Okay, well, good luck, Yeah, okay,
that's why I Look at all the money they spend. Yeah, no, crap,
look at the money everybody spending. Everybody spending a ton
of money.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Anybody who's actually competitive is spending a fortune.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I would love for my team to spend money if
I was a fan, and I would say I wish
we would spend more money. I don't think there's a
fan base that says, hey, let's be responsible here. I mean,
I have to balance my whole budget. Why doesn't the
team balance theirs?
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Right?
Speaker 7 (09:12):
Like the Dodgers are spending three hundred and fifty million
on this team right now, and you can make the
case Toronto's spending one hundred million less, but they're spending
two fifty five.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Theyre's seven.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
They're not the twenty eighth team. Yeah yeah, they're not
this lovable, cute town of Toronto. Yeah yeah, international city?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, do you have an international airport? Okay? Eight seven
seven three DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle a DP show. The Saints have made a change.
They have who is it, Tyler Shuck?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Let's go yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. I watched some
basketball last night. I was watching the Bucks against the Knicks.
It was gianness against a kind of car Anthony Towns.
But dribbling is optional now in the NBA, as Johanna's
proved to us last night. Now you know, I did
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slow it down this morning and watched and I counted
five steps and a push off and he didn't get
called for anything but this silly gather step. Oh my goodness.
But you know, traveling doesn't bother me as much as
palming the basketball does, because that that's an epidemic. That's everywhere.
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That's grade school, high school, college, NBA, G League, WNBA,
everybody is doing that. Now. If you want to say,
but there is a rule about palming, they don't call it,
and there is a rule for traveling. They don't remember.
You'd always have that guy, you know, they, you know,
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somebody'd be like, that's traveling. You move your hands in
a circular motion. They're not calling that anymore. But if
they just come out and say, hey, we're not calling
that anymore because it provides better highlights. It allows guys
to have more separation, make great moves, athletic moves. Okay,
(11:16):
but just tell me that and then I'll move on.
But if you have it, call it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
See, I think if your hands are big enough in
great school at to palma basketball, you should be allowed to.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
But you I'm not talking about actually, I'm talking about
carrying it all right. And we called it palming because
it would be the you know, the ball. You couldn't
have your hand go over the top of the ball.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Yes, yes, NBA Rule ten, Section two, Section D, A
player who is dribbling may not put any part of
his hand under the ball and carry it from one
point to another, or cause the ball to pause and
then dribble again.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Okay, that happens every time down the floor. Yes, just okay,
next time the commissioner's on, well he might not want
to come on anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
One topic.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
But but when we get through this gambling stuff the
next time, I'm just going to say, commissioner, are we
calling this rule? Because if you're not calling it, then okay,
I won't be there going. That's palmbing. He's carrying them
all home. You don't nobody watches a basketball game with
me because they're like, okay, yeah, tell.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Me about the Jerry West days here. I mean, you're like,
I am palming traveling.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Yeah, Paul, imagine if Fritzy emailed the NBA this morning
and said we talked to the commissioner only about palming,
he'd kill call right in.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Why do they call traveling? Can you get back to
us another? That's all I want to know. No other topics. Yeah,
that would be it for right now. That's more important
to me than Chauncey Billups because he's not going to
say anything about that, and it's it's it's quiet right now.
And I don't know if that's a good thing or not,
because I keep waiting somebody. There's some journalists out there still,
(12:58):
like Pablo Torre is gonna find out something here soon.
Quiet always makes me nervous. It feels dangerous. It's like
nothing going on here, like with the Clippers with Kawhi.
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Speaker 2 (13:52):
We bring in Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host,
former NFL quarterback. You can also see him on Football
Night America. If I gave you the Chiefs or the
field in the AFC, who were you taking?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Oh wow, that's a good one right there. Who man,
I'm probably gonna take the field, Okay, But I don't
feel comfortable about that. I wouldn't put money on that.
I would not. But yes, the Chiefs have figured out
a lot of things and and the AFC has left
the door open here while they got their feet underneath
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them and got healthy here to where again, now there's
no question they're one of the top teams in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Once again, what do you need to see from the
Colts where you would acknowledge they could be the best
team in the AFC.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
No, I will acknowledge that already and tell you I
don't need to see anything. They are the best team
in the AFC right now. If you go look at it,
maybe if there was something I'd like to see improved,
could they use maybe one more difference maker? Right? Would
they be in the trade deadline business here of maybe
getting the a guy at the corner position that might
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be available out there, but man lou and Arumo has
done a really good job with that defense, and you
could see right. I mean, if he's got a few players,
he can make it work. And where they're good is, yeah,
they might let up a few yards on defense, but
they make you kick field goals. They're pretty good at
not letting you in the end zone. And then we
know on the offense, then there's nothing with the offense.
I mean, the offense is borderline perfect. Shane Steichen is
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one of the best offensive mines in the sport. You're
seeing what Daniel Jones can do with the little talent
around him, the O line, the tight end, the receivers,
I mean, the running back of course is an MVP player.
They got it all right there in Indianapolis. It's they're
a Super Bowl contending type team. I think it's a
good story.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
They remind me of last year's Vikings where we were like,
let's wait and see when we get to the playoffs,
and we saw what happened to the Vikings when they
got to the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Right, Well, I would I look at this as more
offensive versatility and more danger that way, That's where I'd
look at it to be a little different than the Vikings.
With the Indianapolis's Colts ability to run the football, that
to me makes them a little bit in a different
class than last year's Vikings football team because they can
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control the line of scrimmage and as you know, when
you do that, the play action pass and all the
other things that Shane Stikeen has to deliver in that
offense are pretty special off it. They got it all
on that side of the ball. There in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
You've got Lamar Jackson coming back going to play against
the Dolphins. Are we getting to must win situation time?
I think so basically. You know, I think last week
started that and the encouraging thing right where. There's some
teams out there where I'd go, I don't see it right,
Like the Pittsburgh Steelers. I don't see it. It ain't
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gonna get much better. This is what they are, like,
don't hope for anything more that way. You know, there's
teams like that out there. Baltimore, on the other hand,
I look.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
At them and go, no, no, no, I see some
things about their team to go watch out one. Their
schedule is very favorable. They can go on a run
here where we could look up in a few weeks
and go, man, they're seven and five all of a sudden,
Lamar coming back. I got no worries about their offense.
With Lamar at quarterback. They can run the ball pretty good,
as we know, maybe not as good as everybody wants,
but with him at quarterback, I mean their offense, I
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don't worry. The defense got healthy last week Dan, that
was the big thing. I didn't realize they were going
to be back to full strength, right and they look good,
And that's one thing you look at to go, Yeah,
it's been underwhelming, but they can fix that area and
they give me some hope there from what I saw
in film watching them back this weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Why are the Falcons a mess?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
That's a great question, you know one, I mean all
over the place. That's a little bit having to do
with leadership and then the coaches keeping them, you know,
focused on the right things on a weekend, week out basis.
But that was a shocking game last weekend. I think. One,
they're not patient enough with the run at times. For
as good as they are in the runs still there,
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they don't throw play action pass very much and they've
tried to dabble in that a little bit more, but
that makes no sense. You have b John Robinson in
an old line and you don't have a play action
pass game that's like in depth and can attack off
of that. That's another issue there. So I think, you know,
those are a few of the things, but that's one
that's hard for me to put my finger on it
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because they're more talented than what their record shows.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Right now, we're talking to Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk
Live co host. Let's redraft the twenty twenty four draft.
So you have Caleb, you have Jaden, Drake May, Michael Pennix,
Bo Nicks, right, redraft.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Okay, so I still think I'm gonna give Jaden number
one right now. I understand how awesome Drake May has been, right,
I get that, And I'm guessing that's where you're asking
this question because it's been awesome and he deserves to
be in the MVP conversation for me as well there.
But yeah, I'm still gonna go Jayden from everything we
saw and the year he had last year. He had
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a little banged up this year, but he's won. Now,
this is where it gets interesting between Drake May and
I'm still gonna go with Caleb Williams here because I'm
such a believer in Caleb Williams talent. No, you know,
it's those two, as I'm saying, and I don't know,
it's close between that I'm gonna take Caleb Williams. But
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saying that, man, I'm just giving it just a little
bit of you know, I believe in Caleb Williams. He's
not playing the position quite as well as Drake may
right now, but he's also going through you don't You
don't sound very confident, well, because it's a close one
and I'm himing and hauling here and trying to figure
it out on the fly here. But no, this is
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the other thing with Caleb Williams where I defend him.
You know, he's learning to play a style of offense
and quarterback that he's never played before, and it's been
pretty damn good and it was better than people wanted
to give him credit for last year, you know now,
throwing the ball in rhythm and staying in the pocket
and doing that stuff. Yeah, that's He's been able his
whole life, as you know, to be able to make
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magic happen and make it all go and now he's
kind of being rewired there. So I think that's why
you have moments of going, oh, I don't know if
that looks as good as I would like. But Dan,
I will still tell you he makes throws and scrambles
and runs where I go, that's better than any of
these guys in this crooky class that we're talking about.
His arm is specialist. I let us have it as special.
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But I'm gonna go him to I'll go Drake May three,
I'll go bow Knicks four, I'll go Michael Pennix five,
and I'll go JJ McCarthy six.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Okay, but if you look at this and you say, okay,
you're you're hoping Caleb does what Drake May is actually
doing right.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Right, well, yeah, I think we're a little bit of
that too, Like, all right, so who's playing better at
this second right now? Yes, it's Drake May. But we
get into these quarterback conversations too, and this is where
it's hard sometimes, And this is where ILL into this
with let's just say Jordan Love and Tua. I love
Jordan Love coming out in the draft. At first I
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ranked him in front of Tua, but recognizing wait, he's
not as good as Tua right now, but his talent
and if you just wait two or three more years,
he'll be better than Tua. And so that's where I
get stuck in that combo. Drake May's hotter right now.
He's playing better than Kayleb Williams for sure. But I
guess what I'm saying is I think Caleb William's gonna
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get there under Ben Johnson and ultimately surpass Drake May.
As guess is what my belief is. Still.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I see cam Ward play on a weekly basis. Yeah, okay,
the team isn't good, but he is not good, not
right now. And if I look at Dylan Gabriel, who
wasn't the number one pick overall, hasn't played well, plays
for a bad team, and everybody's clamoring for Shador Sanders
to get a chance, when why aren't they doing something
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you know with cam Ward that should you sit him down?
His numbers are terrible, right, well, yeah they're terrible, So
we can say the Browns aren't any good and Dylan
Gabriel isn't any good. Okay, cam Ward's the number one
pick in the draft. If his name was Caleb Williams,
we would be criticizing him. He would be a focal
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point of all of these shows. Cam Ward doesn't have
any social media presence, but you'll have Schudor Sanders in Cleveland.
So we're not being fair to Dylan Gabriel. And because
he's a third round pick, he plays for a bad team,
but cam Ward is a number one overall pick.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Right, Well, you make a lot of good points there.
First off, that just you just explained that there's unwarranted, like,
you know, criticism of Caleb Williams too much. I don't
know why, right, I don't know why with that.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Because he gets there's this you get clicks.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
That's why he got his fingernails. He had a pink phone,
went to usc after a game and it became a
thing where I'm gonna go, Yeah, but he makes some
of the damnedest plays and throws I've ever seen in
the history of the game.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Proper analysis, I get.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
You there where it's different here and where I'll say
to you, like, first off, the Titans come on, it's
a freaking disaster.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
A disaster, arens.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yes they are. The Browns have an all star defense.
If the Browns just have an offense at all, they'd
be a real pain in the butt that that's that's
the problem, right, So I think I look at that.
I mean the Titans, I mean they're the coach that
just got fired. He didn't know the rules of what
receiver getting in bounds is. I mean, that was a
disaster there. I don't know what else to say. Cam
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Warden makes a few plays in every game, Dan that
I go, WHOA makes a few throws every game Where
I sit here in the NBC viewing room and everyone goes,
oh my gosh, cam Ward Dylan Gabriel's had zero of
those plays. Yet Dylan Gabriel has moments where I go,
I would never make him my starting quarterback? Are you
kidding me? See you, Let's call Shador and figure that
out now. So I'm already in let's do the Shador
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thing and not necessarily knocking on Dylan Gabriel all the
way because it's they doesn't have a great offense around
him either, But they need to figure out what they
got there because they're going to be right back in
the quarterback draft market once again. And that's the only
reason I say that. But yeah, cam Ward's shown me
some elite stuff at least along the way. Dylan Gabriel
is not to this.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Point, Okay, Chador Sanders was putting up Dylan Gabriel numbers,
nobody would be saying you got to put in Dylan
Gabriel probably not.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
No and no, but that's not fair. And I agree
with you there, And that's the problem with when you
that's why, oh, the analytics said the draft Shador Sanders, Well,
the human analytics of saying it's stupid and it's the
number one thing that's a distraction and talked about your
football team all year. We don't talk about anything in
Cleveland except Shador Sanders, Miles Garrett at five secs? Is
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Shador going to start? So that's what's.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Crazy and not fair to your point one hundred percent, Okay,
you get one pick in the NFC. You can take
that team against everybody else.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Gosh, the NFC. So I think the NFC is so
much better than the AFC, right, I mean it's not
even close to me. I mean again, you're talking about
Kansas City, who's five and three? Are they're the best
team in the AFC? Right, And there's flaws with everybody
the Chargers in the playoffs, flaws Buffalo's flaws. Pittsburgh, Oh
my gosh, flaws. Right, you know, New England and Denver
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there's still new kids on the block. Right after that
is Jacksonville and Houston. Flaws everywhere the NFC. I go
Green Bay, Oh my gosh, no flaws. Just play better,
You're amazing. Philadelphia, Oh my gosh, no flaws. Just play
a little more efficient on offense. You're amazing. Tampa Bay,
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You're awesome. Just get healthy, and you're elite. Detroit, do
I have to say anymore? I mean, we know Detroit's elite.
The Rams, the Seahawks are a super Bowl like caliber
football team with their defense and all of that. So
I just look at the NFC and go, oh my gosh, Wow,
now you're gonna make me pick one. Who I feel?
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Detroit right now? That's what I feel. Now. They got
to get healthy in the secondary too, But I think
if you made me pick one, I'm gonna take Detroit.
But it is close in the NFC, and there's a
lot of teams in that super Bowl window.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
The best team that plays in Sofi Stadium is is
definitely the Rams. The Rams.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yeah, the Chargers. The offensive line injuries just decimated them right,
and now they can't run the ball, and it's justin
Herbert just carry us every week. On that side of
the ball. They are very good in past defense, but
they don't have enough difference makers in their front seven.
With the Chargers, the Rams are the Rams can win.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
The Super Bowl. I don't feel that way about the Chargers.
Before I let you go your Alma mater or Texas.
Steve Sarkisian, there was a report that said that he
or his people were kicking the tires on him being
a head coach in the NFL. What do you make
of that?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I don't really buy that. Now. Do I think maybe
one of these owners that's looking to get a head
coach might have said something to Diana Russini or somebody
out there to go, yeah, Steve Sarkisian, we're looking at
him too. Did that happen? I don't doubt that, Do
I think Steve Sarkisian. Do I think the NFL is
clamoring for Steve Sarkisian? No, not right now? Especially wait,
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you had the number one pick of the draft and
he's falling to one seventy one. Here. The offense doesn't
look good like this is not the time you want
to get Steve Sarkisian in. And the other thing I
would just argue is, I mean, there's not a better
job in sports than being the head coach at Texas.
You get paid like you're a big time professional head
coach and you're the king of the land, as you know,
and they got a roll into Texas. They're not playing
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as good this year, but yeah, I don't see that happening.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Dan, What do you make of arch as Arch turned
the corner here?
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Well, I was the fourth quarter I thought was his
best quarter last week of his season.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
He made some throws and some plays where I went, oh,
there's the arch manning I remember and saw a little
last year and all that. I think that, you know,
his mechanics and his throwing just we're not up to
his standards or the way he threw it last year.
And when he got in and I think, Dan, when
it happens, and you know this, when you don't throw
the ball well and you don't trust where the ball
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is going to go, it starts to affect your decision making,
and I feel like that happened with him as well.
Plus they weren't able to run the ball the majority
of the year or help him out that way. So yeah,
I mean Archill, he's going to be back at school.
There's no way he should go out in the draft,
and you know, I think that'll be good for him
and my Texas Longhorns.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Okay, but every year at the draft we talk about
next year's draft class with quarterbacks, it's usually not this
draft class. So people were talking about this at the
draft in Green Bay about oh my god, wait till
next year. Well, I know there's one guy who might
be a top ten pick, and that's Mendoza in Indiana,
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I'm guessing. And that's what mel Kiper talked about this.
You got guys who are going to be going back
to school like they're not They're not coming out.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Oh yeah, Like Dante Moore has that type of talent.
I hope he goes back to goes back to Oregon, though.
I'd like to see him get one more year and
experience there. I think it'll help him out. The guy
I would tell you though, that I would put every
bit in Mendoza's class is the kid at Alabama, Ty Simpson. Yeah,
I mean he makes more wow plays and throws to
me on a weekly basis than than even than Mendoza.
(29:40):
But there's some good quarterbacks out there, You're right, But
it's going to be about who comes out. And yes, Dan,
every year, unqualified people make qualifying statements about the draft
and what's going to happen next year, you know, cade Klubnik,
I was watching it last year. I was like, if
he's the number one pick next year, people were saying
that he's a top five pick. I'm going, are we
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watching the same game? He's a good player, but myer,
uh right, right, Nutsmier I think has fought through some injury,
and I do think there's some talent there. I think
he had an oblique strain. I think that affected his
throwing this year. But yeah, it hasn't been up to
the standards of what we were, you know, sold in
the in the last offseason.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, it's just we love to hype these quarterbacks and
then I know, quarterback, quarterback, and then we blame them
when they don't live up to our expectation.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Exactly right, exactly right. It's it's a messed up thing.
And that's where I always bray. I blame Brady and
Manning because just all those years of those teams being
good and then being the quarterbacks. It just changed the
public's perception of like, well, if you've got a quarterback,
you should win every year. If you've got a quarterback,
you should win every year. And as we know, it's
the ultimate team sport. And if you don't got the
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right team around you, you're you're not gonna look that
good at quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
More impactful as a quarterback. Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, Oh,
our style and everything they brought. You know, Peyton changed
the game. Yeah, yeah, and Tom changed the game too.
Now they did it in different ways. I can tell
you in their prime right.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
That when Peyton Manning came to town, our team was
more nervous than Tom Brady. All right, When Tom Brady
came to town, it was like, oh gosh, it's the
Patriots and Belichick and Brady. Right when it was the Colts.
The whole the whole locker room and the coaching staff
was like the Sheriff's coming, Peyton's coming, Peyton's coming. Oh,
red alert, get your defensive checks ready, Holy crap, here
(31:35):
we go. Hey Sims, you're the scout team quarterback. Can
you be Peyton many this week? We needed to spend
fake ninety seven checks and do it all.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
So wait, you have to imitate that Peyton Manning.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
I always had to do Peyton Manning, especially in Tennessee.
I always did it. I'd go and I took great
pride in doing that.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
How did it sound, give me a little Peyton Manning?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Well, you know, I just had all his manner rhythms down.
You know, I'd be underneath the center and I'd fix
my hit leg and I'd walk down and go down
and you know, and do all that stuff. I didn't
exactly emulate his accent or do anything of that. But man,
that's where Peyton Manning is one of the greatest ever, right,
he really was. So he changed the game as far
as giving control back to the quarterback at the line
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of scrimmage and do all that stuff right and putting
more on the quarterback. That's where he changed the game.
Brady changed the game, and he changes throwing mechanics once
to extend his career and become a better thrower. And
of course what he did health and longevity wise, So
there's a little bit of both x's and o's and
football wise, I'll go with Peyton Manning off the field, lasting,
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keeping yourself and tiptop shape. I go with Tom Brady
good to talk to you. You know it, man, you're
the man. Tell those jerks. I said, Hi over there right.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Hey jerks.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Chris says, well, hey jerks, how are you jerks? See
you later.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
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Speaker 2 (33:04):
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join the list with Steph Curry, Wilt Chamberlain, and Shay
Gilgis if he has a big night tonight or their
next game. But I think he's got one hundred and
forty three points in three games.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
Kids, let me tell you about the old days. I
got to see Wilt Chamberlain, Steph Curry, Steph Curry.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And Austin Austin Reeves. All right, Michael Jordan did his
sit down. Well, I think it's just a one time
only Mike Teriico visits Michael Jordan in Florida and they
go over a variety of topics. I'm assuming that's what
this is going to be. I hope it's not. I
hope it it's timelier. Then we can talk bigger pictures,
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like you know this story, this player, something that happened,
and you can get his reaction to it. Not in
real time, but let's say once a month, Tarico is
able to go there. I hope it's not just a
one and done where you sit for Mike, sit Mike
for three hours and you go over a variety of topics.
But he did talk about load management last night.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
What do you think of when you hear the term
load matt thrown around? Well, it shouldn't be needed.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
I never wanted to miss a game because it was
an opportunity to prove it was it was something that
I felt, like, you know, the fans are there that
watch me play.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I want to I want to.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Impress that guy way up on top who probably worked
his ass off to get a ticket or to get
money to buy the ticket.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
You really cared about the guy who sat at the
top at the Palace in Auburn Hills to watch you
when you came to Detroit.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Yeah, because I know he's probably yelling at me, and
I want to shut him up. He's calling me all
kinds of names. I definitely want to shut him up.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Right, you have a duty that if they're wanting to
see you, and as an entertainer.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
I want to show right. So if the guys are
coming to watch me play, I don't want to miss
that opportunity. Now physically, if I can't do it, then
I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Okay, there's no news here. Because Mike wanted to play.
These guys, they're not going to be like, man, did
you hear what Jordan said? Now let's play seventy five games.
That's not going to happen. I'm sure the NBA love
this too, because the NBA is trying to get these
players to play more games. They're not going to do it.
(36:08):
There's too much money to be made, and if you
can somehow sit out instead of playing through something and
an extend your career, you're going to do that because
the amount of money that's there. Would we like you
to play seventy five games, yes, Would we like you
to get paid for each game you play? Yes?
Speaker 4 (36:27):
We would.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Wait till somebody is making a million dollars a game
and they decide to sit out two games. Wait till
that happens. They're going to rest now. And you can
say you're bay, I tweaked something. Okay, we have to
believe you. But you know, you get load management with
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these guys. Lebron a couple of years ago, I thought
was trying to prove, Hey, I'm going to play seventy games.
I think he played seventy one in seventy Hey at
my age, look at me. But then you know, like
the prior five years to that, there were some seasons
where he's playing fifty games. Fifty five games, and he's
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one of the best. Well, it's probably been in better
shape than any other athlete. But Mike didn't make any
head And if Michael said, hey, I understand load management,
I don't blame them. Now you're getting a headline. But
for Mike Now, I was kind of surprised that Mike
Trico did ask the question because I mean, it's a topic.
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But you know, when I had the commissioner on it
and I said, you got to do mandatory, you gotta
are minimum games, you got to have sixty five games
to qualify for postseason honors, and then he did it.
Now there's some people who weren't happy about it, still
aren't happy about it. But I'm trying to get the
most out of a product. I'm trying to be able
to see these players instead of you tune in and
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you go, wait, where's Steph Curry? He's out? All right,
I'm out too. I hate to see it now. I
don't want you playing through something you know that could
be severe. And yes, I grew up in a completely
different era where I never ever thought about that. I
never thought, oh my gosh, you know he's going to
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sit out because why back to back games. Okay, today's
athlete is in better shape, travels, better nutrition, has been
all of that, but they're sitting out more games like
Kawhi Leonard. I mean when he plays, I go oh,
be damn Kawhi played. That's not good for the league
for what he gets paid. And I know he's a
(38:36):
Hall of Famer, but to me, he's never been musty TV.
He doesn't talk about the game. I don't know if
he loves the game. I can say he's a good businessman,
but I don't go, oh, let me see Kawhi well
lock somebody up or hit a fifteen foot jumper and
just not interested in it. But I would still like
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to see him play for the benefit of the Clippers.
But Jordan's saying that last night didn't have any impact.
It just feels like whatever Mike says, okay, it's going
to make a headline or people are going to talk
about it because Mike doesn't talk about these things. I
just don't want to be talking about broad topics. I
want to make sure that I'd love to know what
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Mike thinks about Victor wembin Yama right now, But you know,
you do the interview a month ago or two months ago.
There's I want timely Michael Jordan. I don't want a
documentary where he's sitting in a chair of a cigar
and you know tequila. I'd love. I thought this was
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going to be what Kobe did in details because I
thought it was fascinating because I'm watching Kobe breakdown plays
players teams, and it felt like it was more immediate,
and that's what I would like to get out of Michael.
I don't know if it's going to be that way.
(40:02):
I hope that, you know, Tarico goes there and sits
down and they wear different clothes and then they're going
to be able to talk about some things that have
happened in the season so far.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Yes, Marv, I'm with you because I would love to
see Michael Jordan's thoughts on somebody like Shay Gildess Alexander,
a great two guard, a great score, just to see
how he differs and how he just sees the game
and in comparison to what Shaye Gilgess Alexander does.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, because Mike might be saying, you see how he
draws contact here, he shoots a lot of free throws
that like, I would love to do that where I'd
say to Mike, Hey, tell me what you see with
Shaye Gilges, how would you defend it? What is he
getting away with? Because he is getting away with, you know,
pushing off. But great players get away with Mike got
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away with it, Magic Bird, run down the list, they
all got away with something. But I would love to
know what Mike sees in that. I'd love for him to,
you know, down Luca, any of these younger players would
be great. It'd be a lot of fun. But I
think that's the one thing that will miss out of
(41:09):
this is Michael. But it doesn't feel like it's immediate. Yeah,
morph Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
I would just love to hear Tarico ask him, Hey,
what similarities do you see in Anthony Edwards? Because people
were talking about Anthony Edwards being the closest thing to
Michael Jordan and what Mike sees.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
Yeah, Paul, going back to load management, it's one of
those phrases where collectively everyone hates it.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
We talk about it, we put it at a poll.
Speaker 7 (41:34):
Is there any chance, though, that if you had a
do over, you kind of would wish that load management
was around in the eighties and nineties. Would Larry Bird
had played till thirty five instead of thirty one? Would
you know, like Steph Curry right now is thirty seven
still playing great basketball. The first half of his career
he played seventy five plus games all the time. The
second half it's close to like sixty five to seventy.
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Is that the reason Steph Curry is not retired right now?
And could that be like would you rather have Larry
Bird for ten years for eighty games or thirteen years
for seventy five games?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, I'd rather have a couple more years with him.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
I wonder you know, it's hard to say, but would
it have been better for guys like that to occasionally
do that?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Well? They had injuries. Bird had a bad back, right,
but Steve Nash had a bad back.
Speaker 7 (42:22):
But did they did Bird exacerbate it because it's my back.
I'll play through a couple of.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Nights because that's the way he played. Yeah, he couldn't
change the way he played. That's the problem, Steve Nash.
Maybe you get a couple more years. Remember nash On
when he was out of a game, he'd had to
stretch the entire time. The number of players last year
who played eighty or more games, Todd, do you want
to guess?
Speaker 4 (42:49):
Don't have anything? What we played more than eighty games?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah? Uh?
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Oscar Robertson No.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Eleven, Marvin, how many players played at least eighty games last.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Year seven last year. After you said all the time,
what was it? Marvin seventeen?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Okay, seat twenty five, twenty.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
Two, twenty eleven times two is twenty two?
Speaker 2 (43:20):
No todd no' sit out. Go back to twenty fourteen,
it was fifty three players. Go back to two thousand
and four, it was seventy two. Back to nineteen ninety
four it was eighty three players, and back to eighty
four it was seventy seven players. So this is certainly
a trend. I understand it. It's just it's difficult to
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tune into something. It'd be like going to a Broadway
show and the person you're going to go see has
to stand in. Are you going to stay for the
Broadway show? Okay? I got no other choice. I've already
bought tickets to this or tuning in to watch a
movie and the star is not there. But we've talked
to the commissioner about it. I don't think there's a
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solution because the NFL, the NBA Player Association is not
going to let you implement some kind of hey for
play system where you get your paycheck when you show
up to work. That's not going to happen because I
can't force you to play.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Yes, Mark, the closest thing is, like you suggested that
Adam Silver implement. It was the sixty five minimum games
to where you can get an All NBA selection or
MVP or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Fred in South Carolina, Hi, Fred, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (44:39):
You couldn't warn DP and the dan Is brother Dan.
You were always on target and right this stuff about
the load management. Yeah, I agree with you. I don't
want to show up and pay all that money and
you guy not be there. And the other thing you
talked earlier, the first hour palm and the ball that
goes back to Alan, It was way back in the next.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Day, right Alan iverson with the Sixers. Yes, but thank
you Fred.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
John Stockton to me, was one of the first guys
that I saw do that where he was palming the ball,
carrying the ball. But it's here to stay. I just
next time I had the commissioner on and there's no
gambling situation going on. I want to say, there is
a rule for this. Why don't we use the rule?
(45:31):
There is a rule for traveling. Just tell me we're
not calling traveling anymore, or we're not going to call
carrying the basketball anymore. And if that's the case, okay, yes, see, do.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
We really want to go back to hand on top
of the ball like you're patting someone on the head. Though, Well,
I think that there's a happy medium there. Well, this
is egregious, right, but the happy medium is a gray
area of is it or isn't it? Well, are you
carrying the.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Ball or not? I think if the ball is suspended
in mid air, you're carrying it like a yeah, it's
like and then I start to dribble again. It's everything's
gray area when you think about a call. Is that
holding that's a gray area? Is that pass interference that's
gray area? It's that traveling that's great? I mean, yeah,
(46:20):
but that's why I like holding should just be allowed.
I agree, you should just let them do it.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Everyone is holding on every play, but you just decided
to call this one that's stupid.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Or put them all in mittens. I agree, we've tried
to do that. But we don't talk to this commissioner. No,
he doesn't talk to us, so I can't say, hey,
how about linemen have to wear mittens on more? Talk
at him? Yes we do, I'm told he gets the
message I'm told, but he comes on when I'm not here.
(46:48):
That's so technically he's been on the show. I'm going
to take a day off and then maybe Ross Tucker
can get the commissioner on. I'll give Ross some Q
questions to ask the commissioner.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Why do you hood guys at the draft?
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Too long? Too hard?
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Nick?
Speaker 2 (47:05):
And Florida? Hi, Nick, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (47:09):
Good morning dad? Six foot one seventy. I am ready
to overreact. Four games in and my Miami Heat had
their second one hundred and forty point plus game last night.
Him Hawks junior twenty eight points, nine to fourteen, eight
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for eight from the line. He is out of the
sophomore slump in his third year. And you guys were
talking hot sauce earlier. Put some sach on an egg
sending which underrated.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Thank you, Thank you, Nick. Apparently your Miami Heater underrated.
It's a hot take. Whoh okay, I see what you did.
I see what you did.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
By the way, I think it should be himI Hawks
junior the herd. If you're going all all Jay heimihk
is who.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
It's former UCLA brewin right, Yeah, pat Riley knows how
to draft.
Speaker 10 (48:06):
He does.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
He knows how to he knows how to find those players.
That was always weird that I never had a relationship
with pat Riley, even when I was working at the Mothership,
even when I was covering the NBA Finals with Jack Ramsey.
He didn't give me the time of the day. He
couldn't care. And then we go to Dan Levittard's wedding,
my wife and I and I walk in and I
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see pat Riley is there with his wife. And then
my wife goes, who is that, like, you know, had
a hair, slick back, you know, the whole thing, and
go that's pat Riley. I said, uh, don't have don't
have a relationship with him. She goes, did you say anything.
I go, no, no, no, I just I don't know.
We never connected and it's like, you know whatever, and
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she So I'm standing at the bar with my back turn.
All of a sudden, pat Riley comes over with his wife.
He goes, Dan, great to see you. How are you now?
My wife is like, wait a minute, this guy didn't
like him, and pat introduces me to his wife. We
start talking and I, you know, complimented him on his
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roster and you know, all this stuff and his hair
and his championships and all those things, and he could
not have been nicer. And then my wife blames me, like,
you know, you kind of painted a picture like this
guy hates you. I go, no, I don't. Just didn't
think he knew me. He acknowledged me. Even when they
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won a championship. And I'm there in South Beach when
the Heat win a championship with d Wade and Shack. No,
you know, I'd see Pat right, I go Hi, Pat,
He'd go Hi.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
But yeah, it was one of those where you go,
all right, hey Pat, Now that's one of those if
I see him again and I go, hey Pat, Yes
it's Marvin pat Riley.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Best dressed coach ever. Hmm.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah, yeah, you'd be hard pressed. Like now, guys don't
want to like they dress like we do. You know
you have a track suit on or you know there's
no suit and tie anymore.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
Quarters zips.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Ryles was a thing back then, like
that was a who still is, yes it is, oh yeah,
But watching him on the sidelines because he was a
former player and that suit looked great, hair looked great,
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and he he meant business, what a competitor and still is.
Speaker 5 (50:45):
Yes, Mart, Yeah, he seems like one of those guys
when he was dressed up you wouldn't realize as a player,
he was a gritty and gutty guy. Yes, and he
wanted to play like the Knicks in the nineties, not
like the Showtime Lakers. The Knicks in the nineties were
really how he wanted to play. Let's fight that was terrible,
such bad basketball that people clamor for let's go back
to the nineties.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Are you sure? No? You sure?
Speaker 2 (51:06):
The eighty three seventy nine they moved the
Speaker 5 (51:08):
Three point line in because people were shooting the ball
so terribly
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Still no update on George Springer. He missed game four.
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didn't do anything at the plate, but you had Vlad
Guerrero Junior, the third has been the best player so
far in the World Series. Twenty six hits, seven home runs,
fourteen RBIs in the playoffs. These are all Blue Jays
franchise records for a single postseason. But he took advantage
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of a meat ball that O'tani hung, and O'tani knew
it right away, because that's a pitch that Otani hits
out of the ballpark. But Vlad Guerrero sitting on that
pitch and it was flat and he took it deep.
So the Blue Jays, you know, they battled adversity. They're
a big underdog here, and you win that game. Following
what happened the night before, but when you think about it,
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I think they left nineteen runners in scoring position in
the previous game. They could easily be up three games
to one right now, tied it two. They have more
hits than the Dodgers do. But this here's your pivotal
game five coming up tonight. All right, Seeton poll question
for the first hour, what are we thinking?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well, we're just batting this one around right now. For
whom is tonight's game more must winish?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
For whom is tonight's game more must win ash?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I would say the Dodgers? Really, yeah, yeah, because then
you go back to Toronto. Oh, look at Marvin all
decked out in his Blue Jay gear.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Come on, let's go.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
We're doing for Carlos Delgado.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Come on, you could be a bench coach there. But
don Mattingly come on, Oh how many?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Lefty?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Okay, we'll take a left to Yeah. Yeah, I would
say must winnish for the Dodgers, because then it goes
back to Toronto. So what else do you have?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
We also had another one or whom are you rooting.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
For the Blue Jays or Dodgers? Well we had this
is a breakdown prior to the start of the World
Series four states that they were rooting for the Dodgers.
Everybody else was rooting for the Blue Jays. That was
the breakdown across the country. I could see that. I
don't know if they're rooting for the Blue Jays or
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rooting against the Dodgers. That you know, I have the
Dodgers graduated to the evil empire, you know, with the Yankees.
Even then, when you look at the Yankees in the
mid nineties, they weren't they weren't, you know, an evil
empire players. You didn't like a rod but you liked
Paul O'Neill, and you like Bernie Williams and Mo Revere
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and Derek Jeter. You know, maybe it was the old
George Steinbrenner. You didn't like him. But still do you
dislike the Dodgers. I don't think o'tani has graduated to
that where now you don't like him, or now you
root against him, because it's still a great story and
you see something you've never seen before. But Freddie Freeman,
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Clayton Kershaw, Dave Roberts, Mookie Beds, those aren't guys that
you root against. You may not root for, but I
don't think you go oh, I'm looking forward to seeing
that guy lose. You might have thought that with Roger Clemens,
with a Rod maybe Andy Pettitt. But you know, for
the most part, those Yankees in the mid nineties were
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you know, just they were great players. Those were great teams.
But I don't think the Dodgers have graduated where you
may not root for them, but I don't think you're
rooting necessarily against them unless just the whole premise of
they spend more money than everybody else and that's not fair.
Maybe that is probably what you know, but the Yankees
did the same thing. You know, people say, oh, they're
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buying another World Series. Well, okay, here are the Dodgers.
The Mets tried to do it. But maybe that's what
it would be. Is I don't like what they stand
for or their business model, but every every fan would
want this if your team could spend the money, you go, hey,
I don't care what you think, and that would be
my attitude as well. We we are playing by the
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same rules as you. We just said to show, Hey, Otani,
how about we defer sixty eight million dollars a year
after you retire? How about you play for two million dollars. Okay,
they just kind of circumvented the rule. You know, this
was a New England Patriots Bill Belichick kind of moment
where you go, wait, what are they doing? Anybody else
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can do this as well. I mean, I don't know
if Soto said, Hey, I'm going to play for two
million dollars and then defer all my money to help
out the Mets. I don't think that happened.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, A Rod wasn't really part of that great Yankees run.
He came after the fact that that's when it was
really hated.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Okay, they were really he got one ring.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
With them, but he missed that like Paul O'Neill waves
say yeah, Ernie Williams and all that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
That's fair. Yeah, I think uh.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And Arod's got a documentary out it's a Rod versus
Alex and I guess his two personalities. They didn't interview
me for that, which I thought maybe I'd get a
cameo in there, since I was going to say we
nearly came to blows. It was he nearly punched me,
because there wouldn't have been blows, it would have been
(05:41):
what happened?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Did he did he hit me?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Okay, But I thought maybe I'd get a cameo in there,
but I didn't. I don't even know if they bring
up the interview that we had with him that kind
of started that mess with him and Jeter when he
was calling out Jeter and saying that he doesn't do
anything as good as Alex does. Why are they paying
him eighteen million dollars a year?
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Yes, Paul, it's probably one of those documentaries where the
subject of the documentary is also the executive producer, which
is really not good for objectivity. Executive pruiser Alex Rodriguez,
How was that going to be objective?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think I made the cut there.
No one reached out, no one said, hey, can we
use a clip from your radio show when Alex called
out Derek Jeter and then got mad at me because
we played it on the radio show. And then he
did an interview with Scott rab and said the same thing,
(06:37):
and I think Esquire magazine the same exact stuff. When
he was interviewed by Scott rab And, I go, how
can you be mad at me when you said the
same thing to a magazine writer? Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
Going back to the nineties, Yankees. Their players weren't likable,
and even their winning wasn't dislikable. It's what happened after
when if you're a fan of the Pirates or whatever team,
you knew if you had a star player, the Yankees
going to grab them. That It's almost more like the
late nineties early two thousand Yankees, where hey, Kevin Brown
and he's a Yankee, and Mike we've seen that he's
a Yankee.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Johnny Damon, come on over here.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
So like the Dodgers, there's no reason to dislike them.
They're following the rules, they're doing great work, and their
players are likable. But it's the effect where you realize
there's like a fifty percent chance that Paul Skeens will
be a Dodger in two years.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, but you know, the Yankees did this. But the
Yankees were the first to really monetize having their own network.
When you think about the Yes network, they were so
far ahead of everybody else. And then they treated this
and we've talked about this before, they treated their starting
lineup like it was must see TV, like Thursday Night
NBC Must see TV with Friends, where you're seeing your stars,
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you're seeing star power and I thought it was brilliant.
But that's what the Dodgers are doing. They're spending the money.
We're going to bring in people that you know when
you tune it. You know, the Blue Jays, I don't
know them. I know Bishett, and I know Vlad and Springer,
but you know they're they're trotting out. I got Otani,
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I got, you know, the biggest sports star in the world.
And you got Freddie Freeman, you got Mookie Betts, you
got that Dodger backdrop, the Dodger uniforms. The stars come
out to watch the dot you know, they treat it
like that, it's an experience to watch. And I think
that's a you know, brilliant, brilliant business plan. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I just prefer teams that win rings in a more
fiscally conservative manner.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah who does that?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Who doesn't?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's just I just prefer that. Okay, well, good luck, Yeah, okay,
that's why I Look at all the money they spend. Yeah, no, crap,
look at the money everybody spending. Everybody spending a ton
of money.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Anybody who's actually competitive is spending a fortune.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I would love for my team to spend money if
I was a fan, and I would say I wish
we would spend more money. I don't think there's a
fan base that says, hey, let's be responsible here. I mean,
I have to balance my whole budget. Why doesn't the
team balance theirs?
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Right?
Speaker 7 (09:12):
Like the Dodgers are spending three hundred and fifty million
on this team right now, and you can make the
case Toronto's spending one hundred million less, but they're spending
two fifty five.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Theyre's seven.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
They're not the twenty eighth team. Yeah yeah, they're not
this lovable, cute town of Toronto. Yeah yeah, international city?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, do you have an international airport? Okay? Eight seven
seven three DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle a DP show. The Saints have made a change.
They have who is it, Tyler Shuck?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Let's go yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. I watched some
basketball last night. I was watching the Bucks against the Knicks.
It was gianness against a kind of car Anthony Towns.
But dribbling is optional now in the NBA, as Johanna's
proved to us last night. Now you know, I did
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slow it down this morning and watched and I counted
five steps and a push off and he didn't get
called for anything but this silly gather step. Oh my goodness.
But you know, traveling doesn't bother me as much as
palming the basketball does, because that that's an epidemic. That's everywhere.
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That's grade school, high school, college, NBA, G League, WNBA,
everybody is doing that. Now. If you want to say,
but there is a rule about palming, they don't call it,
and there is a rule for traveling. They don't remember.
You'd always have that guy, you know, they, you know,
(10:56):
somebody'd be like, that's traveling. You move your hands in
a circular motion. They're not calling that anymore. But if
they just come out and say, hey, we're not calling
that anymore because it provides better highlights. It allows guys
to have more separation, make great moves, athletic moves. Okay,
(11:16):
but just tell me that and then I'll move on.
But if you have it, call it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
See, I think if your hands are big enough in
great school at to palma basketball, you should be allowed to.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
But you I'm not talking about actually, I'm talking about
carrying it all right. And we called it palming because
it would be the you know, the ball. You couldn't
have your hand go over the top of the ball.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Yes, yes, NBA Rule ten, Section two, Section D, A
player who is dribbling may not put any part of
his hand under the ball and carry it from one
point to another, or cause the ball to pause and
then dribble again.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Okay, that happens every time down the floor. Yes, just okay,
next time the commissioner's on, well he might not want
to come on anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
One topic.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
But but when we get through this gambling stuff the
next time, I'm just going to say, commissioner, are we
calling this rule? Because if you're not calling it, then okay,
I won't be there going. That's palmbing. He's carrying them
all home. You don't nobody watches a basketball game with
me because they're like, okay, yeah, tell.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Me about the Jerry West days here. I mean, you're like,
I am palming traveling.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Yeah, Paul, imagine if Fritzy emailed the NBA this morning
and said we talked to the commissioner only about palming,
he'd kill call right in.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Why do they call traveling? Can you get back to
us another? That's all I want to know. No other topics. Yeah,
that would be it for right now. That's more important
to me than Chauncey Billups because he's not going to
say anything about that, and it's it's it's quiet right now.
And I don't know if that's a good thing or not,
because I keep waiting somebody. There's some journalists out there still,
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like Pablo Torre is gonna find out something here soon.
Quiet always makes me nervous. It feels dangerous. It's like
nothing going on here, like with the Clippers with Kawhi.
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Speaker 2 (13:52):
We bring in Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host,
former NFL quarterback. You can also see him on Football
Night America. If I gave you the Chiefs or the
field in the AFC, who were you taking?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Oh wow, that's a good one right there. Who man,
I'm probably gonna take the field, Okay, But I don't
feel comfortable about that. I wouldn't put money on that.
I would not. But yes, the Chiefs have figured out
a lot of things and and the AFC has left
the door open here while they got their feet underneath
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them and got healthy here to where again, now there's
no question they're one of the top teams in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Once again, what do you need to see from the
Colts where you would acknowledge they could be the best
team in the AFC.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
No, I will acknowledge that already and tell you I
don't need to see anything. They are the best team
in the AFC right now. If you go look at it,
maybe if there was something I'd like to see improved,
could they use maybe one more difference maker? Right? Would
they be in the trade deadline business here of maybe
getting the a guy at the corner position that might
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be available out there, but man lou and Arumo has
done a really good job with that defense, and you
could see right. I mean, if he's got a few players,
he can make it work. And where they're good is, yeah,
they might let up a few yards on defense, but
they make you kick field goals. They're pretty good at
not letting you in the end zone. And then we
know on the offense, then there's nothing with the offense.
I mean, the offense is borderline perfect. Shane Steichen is
(15:25):
one of the best offensive mines in the sport. You're
seeing what Daniel Jones can do with the little talent
around him, the O line, the tight end, the receivers,
I mean, the running back of course is an MVP player.
They got it all right there in Indianapolis. It's they're
a Super Bowl contending type team. I think it's a
good story.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
They remind me of last year's Vikings where we were like,
let's wait and see when we get to the playoffs,
and we saw what happened to the Vikings when they
got to the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Right, Well, I would I look at this as more
offensive versatility and more danger that way, That's where I'd
look at it to be a little different than the Vikings.
With the Indianapolis's Colts ability to run the football, that
to me makes them a little bit in a different
class than last year's Vikings football team because they can
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control the line of scrimmage and as you know, when
you do that, the play action pass and all the
other things that Shane Stikeen has to deliver in that
offense are pretty special off it. They got it all
on that side of the ball. There in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
You've got Lamar Jackson coming back going to play against
the Dolphins. Are we getting to must win situation time?
I think so basically. You know, I think last week
started that and the encouraging thing right where. There's some
teams out there where I'd go, I don't see it right,
Like the Pittsburgh Steelers. I don't see it. It ain't
(16:48):
gonna get much better. This is what they are, like,
don't hope for anything more that way. You know, there's
teams like that out there. Baltimore, on the other hand,
I look.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
At them and go, no, no, no, I see some
things about their team to go watch out one. Their
schedule is very favorable. They can go on a run
here where we could look up in a few weeks
and go, man, they're seven and five all of a sudden,
Lamar coming back. I got no worries about their offense.
With Lamar at quarterback. They can run the ball pretty good,
as we know, maybe not as good as everybody wants,
but with him at quarterback, I mean their offense, I
(17:20):
don't worry. The defense got healthy last week Dan, that
was the big thing. I didn't realize they were going
to be back to full strength, right and they look good,
And that's one thing you look at to go, Yeah,
it's been underwhelming, but they can fix that area and
they give me some hope there from what I saw
in film watching them back this weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Why are the Falcons a mess?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
That's a great question, you know one, I mean all
over the place. That's a little bit having to do
with leadership and then the coaches keeping them, you know,
focused on the right things on a weekend, week out basis.
But that was a shocking game last weekend. I think. One,
they're not patient enough with the run at times. For
as good as they are in the runs still there,
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they don't throw play action pass very much and they've
tried to dabble in that a little bit more, but
that makes no sense. You have b John Robinson in
an old line and you don't have a play action
pass game that's like in depth and can attack off
of that. That's another issue there. So I think, you know,
those are a few of the things, but that's one
that's hard for me to put my finger on it
(18:25):
because they're more talented than what their record shows.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Right now, we're talking to Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk
Live co host. Let's redraft the twenty twenty four draft.
So you have Caleb, you have Jaden, Drake May, Michael Pennix,
Bo Nicks, right, redraft.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Okay, so I still think I'm gonna give Jaden number
one right now. I understand how awesome Drake May has been, right,
I get that, And I'm guessing that's where you're asking
this question because it's been awesome and he deserves to
be in the MVP conversation for me as well there.
But yeah, I'm still gonna go Jayden from everything we
saw and the year he had last year. He had
(19:05):
a little banged up this year, but he's won. Now,
this is where it gets interesting between Drake May and
I'm still gonna go with Caleb Williams here because I'm
such a believer in Caleb Williams talent. No, you know,
it's those two, as I'm saying, and I don't know,
it's close between that I'm gonna take Caleb Williams. But
(19:26):
saying that, man, I'm just giving it just a little
bit of you know, I believe in Caleb Williams. He's
not playing the position quite as well as Drake may
right now, but he's also going through you don't You
don't sound very confident, well, because it's a close one
and I'm himing and hauling here and trying to figure
it out on the fly here. But no, this is
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the other thing with Caleb Williams where I defend him.
You know, he's learning to play a style of offense
and quarterback that he's never played before, and it's been
pretty damn good and it was better than people wanted
to give him credit for last year, you know now,
throwing the ball in rhythm and staying in the pocket
and doing that stuff. Yeah, that's He's been able his
whole life, as you know, to be able to make
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magic happen and make it all go and now he's
kind of being rewired there. So I think that's why
you have moments of going, oh, I don't know if
that looks as good as I would like. But Dan,
I will still tell you he makes throws and scrambles
and runs where I go, that's better than any of
these guys in this crooky class that we're talking about.
His arm is specialist. I let us have it as special.
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But I'm gonna go him to I'll go Drake May three,
I'll go bow Knicks four, I'll go Michael Pennix five,
and I'll go JJ McCarthy six.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Okay, but if you look at this and you say, okay,
you're you're hoping Caleb does what Drake May is actually
doing right.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Right, well, yeah, I think we're a little bit of
that too, Like, all right, so who's playing better at
this second right now? Yes, it's Drake May. But we
get into these quarterback conversations too, and this is where
it's hard sometimes, And this is where ILL into this
with let's just say Jordan Love and Tua. I love
Jordan Love coming out in the draft. At first I
(21:06):
ranked him in front of Tua, but recognizing wait, he's
not as good as Tua right now, but his talent
and if you just wait two or three more years,
he'll be better than Tua. And so that's where I
get stuck in that combo. Drake May's hotter right now.
He's playing better than Kayleb Williams for sure. But I
guess what I'm saying is I think Caleb William's gonna
(21:27):
get there under Ben Johnson and ultimately surpass Drake May.
As guess is what my belief is. Still.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I see cam Ward play on a weekly basis. Yeah, okay,
the team isn't good, but he is not good, not
right now. And if I look at Dylan Gabriel, who
wasn't the number one pick overall, hasn't played well, plays
for a bad team, and everybody's clamoring for Shador Sanders
to get a chance, when why aren't they doing something
(21:57):
you know with cam Ward that should you sit him down?
His numbers are terrible, right, well, yeah they're terrible, So
we can say the Browns aren't any good and Dylan
Gabriel isn't any good. Okay, cam Ward's the number one
pick in the draft. If his name was Caleb Williams,
we would be criticizing him. He would be a focal
(22:18):
point of all of these shows. Cam Ward doesn't have
any social media presence, but you'll have Schudor Sanders in Cleveland.
So we're not being fair to Dylan Gabriel. And because
he's a third round pick, he plays for a bad team,
but cam Ward is a number one overall pick.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Right, Well, you make a lot of good points there.
First off, that just you just explained that there's unwarranted, like,
you know, criticism of Caleb Williams too much. I don't
know why, right, I don't know why with that.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Because he gets there's this you get clicks.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
That's why he got his fingernails. He had a pink phone,
went to usc after a game and it became a
thing where I'm gonna go, Yeah, but he makes some
of the damnedest plays and throws I've ever seen in
the history of the game.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Proper analysis, I get.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
You there where it's different here and where I'll say
to you, like, first off, the Titans come on, it's
a freaking disaster.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
A disaster, arens.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yes they are. The Browns have an all star defense.
If the Browns just have an offense at all, they'd
be a real pain in the butt that that's that's
the problem, right, So I think I look at that.
I mean the Titans, I mean they're the coach that
just got fired. He didn't know the rules of what
receiver getting in bounds is. I mean, that was a
disaster there. I don't know what else to say. Cam
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Warden makes a few plays in every game, Dan that
I go, WHOA makes a few throws every game Where
I sit here in the NBC viewing room and everyone goes,
oh my gosh, cam Ward Dylan Gabriel's had zero of
those plays. Yet Dylan Gabriel has moments where I go,
I would never make him my starting quarterback? Are you
kidding me? See you, Let's call Shador and figure that
out now. So I'm already in let's do the Shador
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thing and not necessarily knocking on Dylan Gabriel all the
way because it's they doesn't have a great offense around
him either, But they need to figure out what they
got there because they're going to be right back in
the quarterback draft market once again. And that's the only
reason I say that. But yeah, cam Ward's shown me
some elite stuff at least along the way. Dylan Gabriel
is not to this.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Point, Okay, Chador Sanders was putting up Dylan Gabriel numbers,
nobody would be saying you got to put in Dylan
Gabriel probably not.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
No and no, but that's not fair. And I agree
with you there, And that's the problem with when you
that's why, oh, the analytics said the draft Shador Sanders, Well,
the human analytics of saying it's stupid and it's the
number one thing that's a distraction and talked about your
football team all year. We don't talk about anything in
Cleveland except Shador Sanders, Miles Garrett at five secs? Is
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Shador going to start? So that's what's.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Crazy and not fair to your point one hundred percent, Okay,
you get one pick in the NFC. You can take
that team against everybody else.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Gosh, the NFC. So I think the NFC is so
much better than the AFC, right, I mean it's not
even close to me. I mean again, you're talking about
Kansas City, who's five and three? Are they're the best
team in the AFC? Right, And there's flaws with everybody
the Chargers in the playoffs, flaws Buffalo's flaws. Pittsburgh, Oh
my gosh, flaws. Right, you know, New England and Denver
(25:27):
there's still new kids on the block. Right after that
is Jacksonville and Houston. Flaws everywhere the NFC. I go
Green Bay, Oh my gosh, no flaws. Just play better,
You're amazing. Philadelphia, Oh my gosh, no flaws. Just play
a little more efficient on offense. You're amazing. Tampa Bay,
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You're awesome. Just get healthy, and you're elite. Detroit, do
I have to say anymore? I mean, we know Detroit's elite.
The Rams, the Seahawks are a super Bowl like caliber
football team with their defense and all of that. So
I just look at the NFC and go, oh my gosh, Wow,
now you're gonna make me pick one. Who I feel?
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Detroit right now? That's what I feel. Now. They got
to get healthy in the secondary too, But I think
if you made me pick one, I'm gonna take Detroit.
But it is close in the NFC, and there's a
lot of teams in that super Bowl window.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
The best team that plays in Sofi Stadium is is
definitely the Rams. The Rams.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yeah, the Chargers. The offensive line injuries just decimated them right,
and now they can't run the ball, and it's justin
Herbert just carry us every week. On that side of
the ball. They are very good in past defense, but
they don't have enough difference makers in their front seven.
With the Chargers, the Rams are the Rams can win.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
The Super Bowl. I don't feel that way about the Chargers.
Before I let you go your Alma mater or Texas.
Steve Sarkisian, there was a report that said that he
or his people were kicking the tires on him being
a head coach in the NFL. What do you make
of that?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I don't really buy that. Now. Do I think maybe
one of these owners that's looking to get a head
coach might have said something to Diana Russini or somebody
out there to go, yeah, Steve Sarkisian, we're looking at
him too. Did that happen? I don't doubt that, Do
I think Steve Sarkisian. Do I think the NFL is
clamoring for Steve Sarkisian? No, not right now? Especially wait,
(27:33):
you had the number one pick of the draft and
he's falling to one seventy one. Here. The offense doesn't
look good like this is not the time you want
to get Steve Sarkisian in. And the other thing I
would just argue is, I mean, there's not a better
job in sports than being the head coach at Texas.
You get paid like you're a big time professional head
coach and you're the king of the land, as you know,
and they got a roll into Texas. They're not playing
(27:55):
as good this year, but yeah, I don't see that happening.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Dan, What do you make of arch as Arch turned
the corner here?
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Well, I was the fourth quarter I thought was his
best quarter last week of his season.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
He made some throws and some plays where I went, oh,
there's the arch manning I remember and saw a little
last year and all that. I think that, you know,
his mechanics and his throwing just we're not up to
his standards or the way he threw it last year.
And when he got in and I think, Dan, when
it happens, and you know this, when you don't throw
the ball well and you don't trust where the ball
(28:30):
is going to go, it starts to affect your decision making,
and I feel like that happened with him as well.
Plus they weren't able to run the ball the majority
of the year or help him out that way. So yeah,
I mean Archill, he's going to be back at school.
There's no way he should go out in the draft,
and you know, I think that'll be good for him
and my Texas Longhorns.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Okay, but every year at the draft we talk about
next year's draft class with quarterbacks, it's usually not this
draft class. So people were talking about this at the
draft in Green Bay about oh my god, wait till
next year. Well, I know there's one guy who might
be a top ten pick, and that's Mendoza in Indiana,
(29:09):
I'm guessing. And that's what mel Kiper talked about this.
You got guys who are going to be going back
to school like they're not They're not coming out.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Oh yeah, Like Dante Moore has that type of talent.
I hope he goes back to goes back to Oregon, though.
I'd like to see him get one more year and
experience there. I think it'll help him out. The guy
I would tell you though, that I would put every
bit in Mendoza's class is the kid at Alabama, Ty Simpson. Yeah,
I mean he makes more wow plays and throws to
me on a weekly basis than than even than Mendoza.
(29:40):
But there's some good quarterbacks out there, You're right, But
it's going to be about who comes out. And yes, Dan,
every year, unqualified people make qualifying statements about the draft
and what's going to happen next year, you know, cade Klubnik,
I was watching it last year. I was like, if
he's the number one pick next year, people were saying
that he's a top five pick. I'm going, are we
(30:00):
watching the same game? He's a good player, but myer,
uh right, right, Nutsmier I think has fought through some injury,
and I do think there's some talent there. I think
he had an oblique strain. I think that affected his
throwing this year. But yeah, it hasn't been up to
the standards of what we were, you know, sold in
the in the last offseason.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, it's just we love to hype these quarterbacks and
then I know, quarterback, quarterback, and then we blame them
when they don't live up to our expectation.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Exactly right, exactly right. It's it's a messed up thing.
And that's where I always bray. I blame Brady and
Manning because just all those years of those teams being
good and then being the quarterbacks. It just changed the
public's perception of like, well, if you've got a quarterback,
you should win every year. If you've got a quarterback,
you should win every year. And as we know, it's
the ultimate team sport. And if you don't got the
(30:51):
right team around you, you're you're not gonna look that
good at quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
More impactful as a quarterback. Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, Oh,
our style and everything they brought. You know, Peyton changed
the game. Yeah, yeah, and Tom changed the game too.
Now they did it in different ways. I can tell
you in their prime right.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
That when Peyton Manning came to town, our team was
more nervous than Tom Brady. All right, When Tom Brady
came to town, it was like, oh gosh, it's the
Patriots and Belichick and Brady. Right when it was the Colts.
The whole the whole locker room and the coaching staff
was like the Sheriff's coming, Peyton's coming, Peyton's coming. Oh,
red alert, get your defensive checks ready, Holy crap, here
(31:35):
we go. Hey Sims, you're the scout team quarterback. Can
you be Peyton many this week? We needed to spend
fake ninety seven checks and do it all.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
So wait, you have to imitate that Peyton Manning.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
I always had to do Peyton Manning, especially in Tennessee.
I always did it. I'd go and I took great
pride in doing that.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
How did it sound, give me a little Peyton Manning?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Well, you know, I just had all his manner rhythms down.
You know, I'd be underneath the center and I'd fix
my hit leg and I'd walk down and go down
and you know, and do all that stuff. I didn't
exactly emulate his accent or do anything of that. But man,
that's where Peyton Manning is one of the greatest ever, right,
he really was. So he changed the game as far
as giving control back to the quarterback at the line
(32:14):
of scrimmage and do all that stuff right and putting
more on the quarterback. That's where he changed the game.
Brady changed the game, and he changes throwing mechanics once
to extend his career and become a better thrower. And
of course what he did health and longevity wise, So
there's a little bit of both x's and o's and
football wise, I'll go with Peyton Manning off the field, lasting,
(32:37):
keeping yourself and tiptop shape. I go with Tom Brady
good to talk to you. You know it, man, you're
the man. Tell those jerks. I said, Hi over there right.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Hey jerks.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Chris says, well, hey jerks, how are you jerks? See
you later.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
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Speaker 2 (33:04):
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the third player in NBA history to score at least
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(33:48):
join the list with Steph Curry, Wilt Chamberlain, and Shay
Gilgis if he has a big night tonight or their
next game. But I think he's got one hundred and
forty three points in three games.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
Kids, let me tell you about the old days. I
got to see Wilt Chamberlain, Steph Curry, Steph Curry.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And Austin Austin Reeves. All right, Michael Jordan did his
sit down. Well, I think it's just a one time
only Mike Teriico visits Michael Jordan in Florida and they
go over a variety of topics. I'm assuming that's what
this is going to be. I hope it's not. I
hope it it's timelier. Then we can talk bigger pictures,
(34:33):
like you know this story, this player, something that happened,
and you can get his reaction to it. Not in
real time, but let's say once a month, Tarico is
able to go there. I hope it's not just a
one and done where you sit for Mike, sit Mike
for three hours and you go over a variety of topics.
But he did talk about load management last night.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
What do you think of when you hear the term
load matt thrown around? Well, it shouldn't be needed.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
I never wanted to miss a game because it was
an opportunity to prove it was it was something that
I felt, like, you know, the fans are there that
watch me play.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I want to I want to.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Impress that guy way up on top who probably worked
his ass off to get a ticket or to get
money to buy the ticket.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
You really cared about the guy who sat at the
top at the Palace in Auburn Hills to watch you
when you came to Detroit.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Yeah, because I know he's probably yelling at me, and
I want to shut him up. He's calling me all
kinds of names. I definitely want to shut him up.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Right, you have a duty that if they're wanting to
see you, and as an entertainer.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
I want to show right. So if the guys are
coming to watch me play, I don't want to miss
that opportunity. Now physically, if I can't do it, then
I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Okay, there's no news here. Because Mike wanted to play.
These guys, they're not going to be like, man, did
you hear what Jordan said? Now let's play seventy five games.
That's not going to happen. I'm sure the NBA love
this too, because the NBA is trying to get these
players to play more games. They're not going to do it.
(36:08):
There's too much money to be made, and if you
can somehow sit out instead of playing through something and
an extend your career, you're going to do that because
the amount of money that's there. Would we like you
to play seventy five games, yes, Would we like you
to get paid for each game you play? Yes?
Speaker 4 (36:27):
We would.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Wait till somebody is making a million dollars a game
and they decide to sit out two games. Wait till
that happens. They're going to rest now. And you can
say you're bay, I tweaked something. Okay, we have to
believe you. But you know, you get load management with
(36:50):
these guys. Lebron a couple of years ago, I thought
was trying to prove, Hey, I'm going to play seventy games.
I think he played seventy one in seventy Hey at
my age, look at me. But then you know, like
the prior five years to that, there were some seasons
where he's playing fifty games. Fifty five games, and he's
(37:10):
one of the best. Well, it's probably been in better
shape than any other athlete. But Mike didn't make any
head And if Michael said, hey, I understand load management,
I don't blame them. Now you're getting a headline. But
for Mike Now, I was kind of surprised that Mike
Trico did ask the question because I mean, it's a topic.
(37:33):
But you know, when I had the commissioner on it
and I said, you got to do mandatory, you gotta
are minimum games, you got to have sixty five games
to qualify for postseason honors, and then he did it.
Now there's some people who weren't happy about it, still
aren't happy about it. But I'm trying to get the
most out of a product. I'm trying to be able
to see these players instead of you tune in and
(37:55):
you go, wait, where's Steph Curry? He's out? All right,
I'm out too. I hate to see it now. I
don't want you playing through something you know that could
be severe. And yes, I grew up in a completely
different era where I never ever thought about that. I
never thought, oh my gosh, you know he's going to
(38:16):
sit out because why back to back games. Okay, today's
athlete is in better shape, travels, better nutrition, has been
all of that, but they're sitting out more games like
Kawhi Leonard. I mean when he plays, I go oh,
be damn Kawhi played. That's not good for the league
for what he gets paid. And I know he's a
(38:36):
Hall of Famer, but to me, he's never been musty TV.
He doesn't talk about the game. I don't know if
he loves the game. I can say he's a good businessman,
but I don't go, oh, let me see Kawhi well
lock somebody up or hit a fifteen foot jumper and
just not interested in it. But I would still like
(38:57):
to see him play for the benefit of the Clippers.
But Jordan's saying that last night didn't have any impact.
It just feels like whatever Mike says, okay, it's going
to make a headline or people are going to talk
about it because Mike doesn't talk about these things. I
just don't want to be talking about broad topics. I
want to make sure that I'd love to know what
(39:20):
Mike thinks about Victor wembin Yama right now, But you know,
you do the interview a month ago or two months ago.
There's I want timely Michael Jordan. I don't want a
documentary where he's sitting in a chair of a cigar
and you know tequila. I'd love. I thought this was
(39:41):
going to be what Kobe did in details because I
thought it was fascinating because I'm watching Kobe breakdown plays
players teams, and it felt like it was more immediate,
and that's what I would like to get out of Michael.
I don't know if it's going to be that way.
(40:02):
I hope that, you know, Tarico goes there and sits
down and they wear different clothes and then they're going
to be able to talk about some things that have
happened in the season so far.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Yes, Marv, I'm with you because I would love to
see Michael Jordan's thoughts on somebody like Shay Gildess Alexander,
a great two guard, a great score, just to see
how he differs and how he just sees the game
and in comparison to what Shaye Gilgess Alexander does.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, because Mike might be saying, you see how he
draws contact here, he shoots a lot of free throws
that like, I would love to do that where I'd
say to Mike, Hey, tell me what you see with
Shaye Gilges, how would you defend it? What is he
getting away with? Because he is getting away with, you know,
pushing off. But great players get away with Mike got
(40:49):
away with it, Magic Bird, run down the list, they
all got away with something. But I would love to
know what Mike sees in that. I'd love for him to,
you know, down Luca, any of these younger players would
be great. It'd be a lot of fun. But I
think that's the one thing that will miss out of
(41:09):
this is Michael. But it doesn't feel like it's immediate. Yeah,
morph Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
I would just love to hear Tarico ask him, Hey,
what similarities do you see in Anthony Edwards? Because people
were talking about Anthony Edwards being the closest thing to
Michael Jordan and what Mike sees.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
Yeah, Paul, going back to load management, it's one of
those phrases where collectively everyone hates it.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
We talk about it, we put it at a poll.
Speaker 7 (41:34):
Is there any chance, though, that if you had a
do over, you kind of would wish that load management
was around in the eighties and nineties. Would Larry Bird
had played till thirty five instead of thirty one? Would
you know, like Steph Curry right now is thirty seven
still playing great basketball. The first half of his career
he played seventy five plus games all the time. The
second half it's close to like sixty five to seventy.
(41:56):
Is that the reason Steph Curry is not retired right now?
And could that be like would you rather have Larry
Bird for ten years for eighty games or thirteen years
for seventy five games?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, I'd rather have a couple more years with him.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
I wonder you know, it's hard to say, but would
it have been better for guys like that to occasionally
do that?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Well? They had injuries. Bird had a bad back, right,
but Steve Nash had a bad back.
Speaker 7 (42:22):
But did they did Bird exacerbate it because it's my back.
I'll play through a couple of.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Nights because that's the way he played. Yeah, he couldn't
change the way he played. That's the problem, Steve Nash.
Maybe you get a couple more years. Remember nash On
when he was out of a game, he'd had to
stretch the entire time. The number of players last year
who played eighty or more games, Todd, do you want
to guess?
Speaker 4 (42:49):
Don't have anything? What we played more than eighty games?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah? Uh?
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Oscar Robertson No.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Eleven, Marvin, how many players played at least eighty games last.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Year seven last year. After you said all the time,
what was it? Marvin seventeen?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Okay, seat twenty five, twenty.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
Two, twenty eleven times two is twenty two?
Speaker 2 (43:20):
No todd no' sit out. Go back to twenty fourteen,
it was fifty three players. Go back to two thousand
and four, it was seventy two. Back to nineteen ninety
four it was eighty three players, and back to eighty
four it was seventy seven players. So this is certainly
a trend. I understand it. It's just it's difficult to
(43:44):
tune into something. It'd be like going to a Broadway
show and the person you're going to go see has
to stand in. Are you going to stay for the
Broadway show? Okay? I got no other choice. I've already
bought tickets to this or tuning in to watch a
movie and the star is not there. But we've talked
to the commissioner about it. I don't think there's a
(44:07):
solution because the NFL, the NBA Player Association is not
going to let you implement some kind of hey for
play system where you get your paycheck when you show
up to work. That's not going to happen because I
can't force you to play.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Yes, Mark, the closest thing is, like you suggested that
Adam Silver implement. It was the sixty five minimum games
to where you can get an All NBA selection or
MVP or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Fred in South Carolina, Hi, Fred, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (44:39):
You couldn't warn DP and the dan Is brother Dan.
You were always on target and right this stuff about
the load management. Yeah, I agree with you. I don't
want to show up and pay all that money and
you guy not be there. And the other thing you
talked earlier, the first hour palm and the ball that
goes back to Alan, It was way back in the next.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Day, right Alan iverson with the Sixers. Yes, but thank
you Fred.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
John Stockton to me, was one of the first guys
that I saw do that where he was palming the ball,
carrying the ball. But it's here to stay. I just
next time I had the commissioner on and there's no
gambling situation going on. I want to say, there is
a rule for this. Why don't we use the rule?
(45:31):
There is a rule for traveling. Just tell me we're
not calling traveling anymore, or we're not going to call
carrying the basketball anymore. And if that's the case, okay, yes, see, do.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
We really want to go back to hand on top
of the ball like you're patting someone on the head. Though, Well,
I think that there's a happy medium there. Well, this
is egregious, right, but the happy medium is a gray
area of is it or isn't it? Well, are you
carrying the.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Ball or not? I think if the ball is suspended
in mid air, you're carrying it like a yeah, it's
like and then I start to dribble again. It's everything's
gray area when you think about a call. Is that
holding that's a gray area? Is that pass interference that's
gray area? It's that traveling that's great? I mean, yeah,
(46:20):
but that's why I like holding should just be allowed.
I agree, you should just let them do it.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Everyone is holding on every play, but you just decided
to call this one that's stupid.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Or put them all in mittens. I agree, we've tried
to do that. But we don't talk to this commissioner. No,
he doesn't talk to us, so I can't say, hey,
how about linemen have to wear mittens on more? Talk
at him? Yes we do, I'm told he gets the
message I'm told, but he comes on when I'm not here.
(46:48):
That's so technically he's been on the show. I'm going
to take a day off and then maybe Ross Tucker
can get the commissioner on. I'll give Ross some Q
questions to ask the commissioner.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Why do you hood guys at the draft?
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Too long? Too hard?
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Nick?
Speaker 2 (47:05):
And Florida? Hi, Nick, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (47:09):
Good morning dad? Six foot one seventy. I am ready
to overreact. Four games in and my Miami Heat had
their second one hundred and forty point plus game last night.
Him Hawks junior twenty eight points, nine to fourteen, eight
(47:33):
for eight from the line. He is out of the
sophomore slump in his third year. And you guys were
talking hot sauce earlier. Put some sach on an egg
sending which underrated.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Thank you, Thank you, Nick. Apparently your Miami Heater underrated.
It's a hot take. Whoh okay, I see what you did.
I see what you did.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
By the way, I think it should be himI Hawks
junior the herd. If you're going all all Jay heimihk
is who.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
It's former UCLA brewin right, Yeah, pat Riley knows how
to draft.
Speaker 10 (48:06):
He does.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
He knows how to he knows how to find those players.
That was always weird that I never had a relationship
with pat Riley, even when I was working at the Mothership,
even when I was covering the NBA Finals with Jack Ramsey.
He didn't give me the time of the day. He
couldn't care. And then we go to Dan Levittard's wedding,
my wife and I and I walk in and I
(48:28):
see pat Riley is there with his wife. And then
my wife goes, who is that, like, you know, had
a hair, slick back, you know, the whole thing, and
go that's pat Riley. I said, uh, don't have don't
have a relationship with him. She goes, did you say anything.
I go, no, no, no, I just I don't know.
We never connected and it's like, you know whatever, and
(48:52):
she So I'm standing at the bar with my back turn.
All of a sudden, pat Riley comes over with his wife.
He goes, Dan, great to see you. How are you now?
My wife is like, wait a minute, this guy didn't
like him, and pat introduces me to his wife. We
start talking and I, you know, complimented him on his
(49:15):
roster and you know, all this stuff and his hair
and his championships and all those things, and he could
not have been nicer. And then my wife blames me, like,
you know, you kind of painted a picture like this
guy hates you. I go, no, I don't. Just didn't
think he knew me. He acknowledged me. Even when they
(49:36):
won a championship. And I'm there in South Beach when
the Heat win a championship with d Wade and Shack. No,
you know, I'd see Pat right, I go Hi, Pat,
He'd go Hi.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
But yeah, it was one of those where you go,
all right, hey Pat, Now that's one of those if
I see him again and I go, hey Pat, Yes
it's Marvin pat Riley.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Best dressed coach ever. Hmm.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah, yeah, you'd be hard pressed. Like now, guys don't
want to like they dress like we do. You know
you have a track suit on or you know there's
no suit and tie anymore.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
Quarters zips.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Ryles was a thing back then, like
that was a who still is, yes it is, oh yeah,
But watching him on the sidelines because he was a
former player and that suit looked great, hair looked great,
(50:40):
and he he meant business, what a competitor and still is.
Speaker 5 (50:45):
Yes, Mart, Yeah, he seems like one of those guys
when he was dressed up you wouldn't realize as a player,
he was a gritty and gutty guy. Yes, and he
wanted to play like the Knicks in the nineties, not
like the Showtime Lakers. The Knicks in the nineties were
really how he wanted to play. Let's fight that was terrible,
such bad basketball that people clamor for let's go back
to the nineties.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Are you sure? No? You sure?
Speaker 2 (51:06):
The eighty three seventy nine they moved the
Speaker 5 (51:08):
Three point line in because people were shooting the ball
so terribly
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