November 1, 2025 • 36 mins
There was really only one story worth discussing on Tuesday morning and that was Shohei Ohtani continuing to prove he is absolutely the greatest baseball player of all time, and we are lucky to be watching him in real time. Dan and the Danettes react to the 18-inning marathon that was World Series Game 3. Dan weighs in on the LSU coaching search after Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry says Athletic Director Scott Woodward won’t be making the decision on who will replace Brian Kelly. Charles Barkley has some connection issues, but he manages to give DP a good 20 minutes of compelling opinions, especially his disdain for “load management” in the NBA and the current gambling allegations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh, there are a lot of people in Los Angeles
doing the following this morning. That was a long game,
late night, six hours, thirty nine minutes. One of the
greatest World Series games that maybe you didn't see. That's
one of those where you go, I'm going to be
watching Sports Center in the morning and one of the
(00:25):
great home runs of all time that I don't know
how many people got to see Freddie Freeman go deep
to win that game last night. So the Dodgers beat
the Blue Jays on Freddie Freeman's home run in the
eighteenth as they lead two games to one. Can we
play what it sounded like?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Marvin? Do we have the call on Am five seventy,
Little delivers Freeman.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's on high in the air, straightaway center field, carcel petal.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Walk Freddie Freeman, mister World Series hens the marathon at midnight.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Freddie Freeman is one of four players with multiple walk
off home runs in the postseason, so David Ortiz, Bernie Williams,
in Carlos Correa, but Freddie is the only player in
baseball history with multiple walkoff home runs in the World Series.
Shoho Tani oh, by the way, had two home runs,
two doubles. They also walked him five times, four intentionally.
(01:33):
And that's one of those moments where, and we were
talking about this earlier this morning, we're actually watching the
greatest baseball player of all time. We're watching him in
real time. It's happening right now. It's not one of
those Hey, you should have seen that guy play. He's
the greatest baseball player of all time. Babe Ruth did something,
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but he didn't do it together. He didn't do a combination.
That doesn't mean he couldn't have done it, but he
didn't do it. He was a great pitcher, best pitcher
in the game, and then all of a sudden decided
to be the greatest hitter. Show hey Otani with what
he and he pitches tonight. So you're going to have
that performance where you walk him four times. And I
(02:14):
talked about this when the series started. If you don't
have left handed pitching against the Dodgers, you're in trouble
because you don't have you got Freddie Freeman and show
Hey Otani, and if you don't have somebody that you
can bring in and go, I can get that guy
out they've gotten to the point where he's getting Bond's treatment,
and I want you to pitch in shame. If you're
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going to intentionally walk him, I want you to throw
the four pitches that look silly because you don't want
to face him. I don't want it to be I
had we're going to walk him and I point him
to first base. Nope, I want you to pitch in shame.
I want you to acknowledge that you can't get him out,
and you throw those four pitches. But I mean one
of the home runs, I went, oh, what are we doing?
(02:57):
What do you how could you possibly put it anywhere
near that? And they did, and I'm thinking, oh my goodness,
so oh Tani made him pay. Freddie Freeman made him pay.
There was one nervous moment there when Clayton Kershaw was
in with the bases loaded.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I just was like, just get the out, go, sit down,
don't pitch anymore, and maybe you win the World Series.
But they would cut away to his wife, Oh, you
talk about the ebb and flow, the highs and lows,
and you rarely think about when you're the family is
there watching this, Oh, just get off the mount that's
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all I could think of. But watching that last night,
or at least as long as I could, you're watching
the best player in baseball history.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I know people are going to say, well, what about
Babe Ruth. Babe was a better hitter. But what he
is doing at the same time, and imagine, just imagine
if he goes out there tonight and pitches at five
or six innings quality baseball and everybody emptied their bullpen,
like this is one of those losses that's not just
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one loss. You used your bullpen. You realize you can't
pitch to Otani, and all of a sudden you're gonna
face him on the mound. That was monumental I think
last night. But up two games to one, I know
it's only one game. All it takes is, you know,
a couple of breaks going your way, but that one,
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that one's stinging, and you got to turn around and
go back out there and play again tonight, and then
the next game is on Wednesday. So these pitching staffs
are really going to be taxed. But that's where if
you get Yamamoto who gives you a complete game, if
Otani can give you five or six innings here, you
have an incredible advantage here, all right, see let's pull
(04:51):
question for hour one.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Yeah, you know, when you look at his at bats
last night, Show Heyotani, he had a double, a home run,
a double, a home run. He was then intentionally walked
f war straight times and then walk the fifth time.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
That's a hell of a night.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, when you're talking about let me see. So he
walked five times, four intentionally, reach based nine times nine
times in the game, the only player to be walked
intentionally four times in a postseason game since they started
tracking this in nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's fight.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Paul is just saying, if you took that series of
at bats from show Hey Tony, just from last night,
that's good enough to win a World Series MVP for
the whole series.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So week, the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
If you had two doubles and two home runs, well.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
He won the National League the NLCS MVP based off
one game, and he might win this MVP wait based
off one game.
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Speaker 2 (06:24):
The Louisiana Governor is Jeff Landry. He told reporters yesterday
that the LSU athletic director Scott Woodward would not be
involved in selecting LSU's next football coach, saying he would
let President Donald Trump do it before Woodward. Okay, a joke,
but still, this is your acting athletic director here.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Today.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Of course, fired Brian Kelly. Now you've got a settlement here,
and Brian Kelly's going to walk away with perhaps fifty
four million dollars. And well, here is the governor yesterday
at the press conference.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
This is a pattern.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
The guy that's here now, I wrote that contract cost
Texas A and M seventy something million dollars right now,
we got a fifty three million dollar liability. We are
not doing that again. And you know what, I believe.
I believe that we're going to find a great coach.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
You know, I'm not going to be picking the next coach,
but I can promise you we're going to pick a coach,
and we're going to make sure that that coach is successful,
and we're going to make sure that he's compensated properly,
and we're going to put.
Speaker 8 (07:30):
Metrics on it. Because I'm tired of rewarding failure in
this country and then leaving the tax payers, you know,
to foot the bill. Look, my role is about the
fiscal effect of firing a coach under a terrible contract.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Okay, So, he criticized Woodward, the athletic director, for gringing
to a ten year, ninety five million dollar contract with
Brian Kelly. LSU's on the hook for fifty four million dollars.
Woodward said that the school would quote continue to negotiate
Brian Kelly's separation and will work towards a path for
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that's better for both parties now. The governor then also
criticized his athletic director for agreeing to a similar one
sided coaching contract when Texas A and M. He was
the athletic director when Jimbo Fisher got his contract. We
have another comment from the governor Marvin Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Who's no.
Speaker 8 (08:35):
I can tell you right now, Skwood is not selecting
the next coach.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Hell, I'll let Donald Trump select it before I'll let
him do it.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
I don't know, but the Vorta Superas is going to
come up with a committee and they're going to go
find us a coach.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's SEC football right there, that's SEC football. Yeah, you
got to throw my athletic director under the bus. Yes, ton,
real quick question. What about the taxes? Another player rate
in our streets need to be a lot more safe
and all the kids don't have school books where we
gonna go. Okay, But in fairness to the governor, this
was not about the football situation. He was asked football
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questions and then that was at the end of the
press conference. I don't know what the press conference was about,
but I know what it became about, because it was about,
you know, picking your successor to Brian Kelly and doing
it in a fiscal way. Now, I don't know if
this means, Hey, how about it not a ten year deal. Hey,
maybe you don't get that coach because you're going to
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be tied up for ten years, and you should never
be tied up for ten years with a coach with
that amount of money. And they this athletic director has
done it twice with Jimbo Fisher and now Brian Kelly.
You may not get the guy you want, but you
might get somebody who is on the precipice of being somebody,
and maybe you get them at a better price.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Don't go over five years, don't.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It in today's In today's college football climate, nobody's staying
around for ten years, whether they want to leave or
you want them to leave. Sustainability is so difficult. Now,
I'm not signing up for ten years with anybody. I'd
have a pre nup, yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 9 (10:15):
So in theory, the governor is agreeing with what you're saying,
and he's going to have a more fiscally conscious contract.
Wherever the next head coach of LSU is, I don't
know if he realizes that's not the current trend in
college football, and no current coach is going to consider
LSU under those conditions. For example, Lane Kiffin, if he
gets a call from LSU and says, we're going to
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offer you a six year contract and the buyout is light.
Speaker 10 (10:41):
He will not.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
Return their calls because Florida will not do that. They'll
would be with the old rules ten years, one hundred
and ten million.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Even if I give ten years to Lane Kiffin, he's
not staying there ten years.
Speaker 9 (10:53):
But he will never join your football team.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You know what, at some point, I have to have
some kind of continuity. I have to have where we're
both in this together. And Brian Kelly was never a
good fit.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
He wasn't.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
He's a really good coach. He's going to coach someplace.
He's going to get opportunities. Vegas already has odds of
where they think he's going to end up.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
He will coach.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
But if you're going to try to even Indiana with
Kurt Signetti, I love the story.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
He's been successful. I don't want to give you nine years.
I'm going to give you five. I'm going to give
you five.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Top end dollars. But after that then we go into
this together. And it's not his age, it's just I
can't give you ten years. That's an eternity in college
football now. But the governor's involved in this. And I
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know you got other younger coaches here that would love
to coach LSU. Maybe you sign him up for five years,
Maybe you get a friendly contract there. I mean, who
are the marquee coaches that you have to give a
ten year deal to? James Franklin. I don't want James Franklin.
(12:14):
Urban Meyer is not going to show up in the doorstep.
The only guy that you would ever consider this, or
you might have to consider this, is Lane Kiffen Nick
Saban's not coming back to LSU. Urban Meyer. The one
guy is Lane Kiffin. All the other coaches, no, Ryan
(12:36):
Day is not going to NSU. So who are the
coaches where you go?
Speaker 10 (12:41):
We're go.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I gotta give him ten years. Kirby Smart's not going down.
None of these coaches are going there. It's Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
That's it. Yeah, Paul, I don't know if you'd look
at it.
Speaker 9 (12:53):
There's no reports, but if Dan Landing of Oregon put
himself out there, it would be interesting to see what
he got from Melish.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Just coach energetic. But you're at Oregon, you're in the
Big ten.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
You got the financial resources that match Texas. You know,
you got, you know, the Boosters, Phil Knight, Nike, that atmosphere. Now,
I know he's an SEC guy, so I guess there's
always that chance.
Speaker 11 (13:24):
Yes, Marmon, what about Dabosweeney.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
He's gonna want He'll want a ten year deal, but
I don't. I don't want Dabo Sweeney for ten years
in today. It's really a ten year guy. But I
don't want him not in today's college football because it's
not working at Clemson. Your model is not working at
Clemson right now. It did, but it's not going to
it's not sustainable. You're gonna go to LSU. What system
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are you bringing in to LSU?
Speaker 9 (13:55):
Yeah, Pauline, I could see Sweeney because it's cooled off
at Clemson right now and before you get a chance
to be fired. Remember the old Jimbo Fisher model at
Florida State. I'm cooling off. I'm cooling off. I'm going
to run to A and M and get ten years,
seventy five million. That could be what Dabo does before
someone else tells him he's leaving.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I hope LSU hires somebody who is, you know, an
up and coming guy and get that opportunity. But you know,
maybe you get these guys who go I could swoop
in and get a big payday here. It feels like
lane Kiffin's gone.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
It just feels like that.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And I brought this up about the documentary that I
saw on the mother Ship, and there's no reason for
him to leave Oxford given that he's family's there, he's healthy.
Now there's a lot of positives there what he's doing
for ole Miss, But I don't know if Lane has
always got one foot in and one foot out. It
(14:51):
just feels like that's his personality. Yes, Marv, do you.
Speaker 11 (14:55):
Think that the LSU brass would put up with a
lower level, kind of no name head coach, Like we're LSU,
how come we don't have a big time coach? If
they get some guy that came from a smaller school,
did be like who.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well Ed Orgeron wasn't a big name coach. Les Miles
wasn't a big name coach.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Nick Saban became a big name coach, So I think
it can be a launching pad.
Speaker 9 (15:23):
Yeah, Paulie, lane Kiffin does not make quite as much
as some of the other coaches. I think he's I
don't think he's in the top He's the eleventh highest
paid coach in the country as of this year. That
win he had over Oklahoma last week actually triggered a
one year contract extension for him, and that will pay
him nine million. But that's at the back end of
his contract.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
He is, all right, I pump him up two more
million dollars. Yeah, I put him in eleven million dollars.
I keep him there.
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Speaker 2 (16:00):
Charles Barkley, Hall of Famer inside the NBA on ESPN.
Are you an ESPN employee? Do you get invited to
the Christmas party?
Speaker 10 (16:10):
I don't know. I didn't know they had a Christmas party.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, yeah, it's a big one. Now, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You have to go to Bristol, Connecticut Open bar I
mean it's a big deal.
Speaker 12 (16:22):
Well, you know, you know, I was talking to Matt
Barry and Michael Eves. I've actually never been to the
ESPN studio. I want to do that before our relationship started,
and I just got busy playing golf every day this summer.
But it looks amazing on television the campus. So but no,
I haven't got invited to the Christmas party, but I
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do want to go see I talked to Matt Barry
and Michael Leaves and my girl al Duncan. At some point,
I want to get to see that studio on an
off day. Not that I want to work or anything.
I just want to go see you.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, how is your schedule If you go there, they're
going to put you to work.
Speaker 12 (16:58):
Well, that's why I'm gonna go doing the summer. Well,
I can't just it. There's nothing going on except football
every day. I'na make sure there's no basketball or anything
going on.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
It doesn't matter if you go in that building, you're
gonna be on ESPN News or two or NFL Live
or you know.
Speaker 10 (17:16):
I'm brushing up. I'm brushing up in my Spanish so
I can do this. I got to get ready for
I got to get ready for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You guys haven't missed a step though. Seems like you know,
gang's all back together and now has your approach to
the NBA changed at all since you're now on ESPN.
Speaker 12 (17:36):
No, it's been great, you know, the guys at ESPN,
Dan I said this, and I wasn't kissing anybody, as
you know, I ain't gonna kiss nobody. As that's the
best thing about having mine. I don't have to listen
to anybody. It's an honoring and privilege to work for
ESPN because every kid grew up wanting to be on SPN.
They did, like every kid who's ever touched any type
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of ball. If they're being honest, if you go on ESPN,
you feel like you've made it. So it's an honor
to work for him. And we've only did three shows
and they've been great. They left us alone.
Speaker 10 (18:09):
You know.
Speaker 12 (18:09):
The only thing that sucked about it is in Game
one on NBC, we had a great double overtime game,
which was awesome. Then the next night we had winby
go crazy. We had Steph go crazy for us, and
we didn't even get to talk about that because of
this gambling BS and that was the only downer. But
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other than that, it's been fantastic.
Speaker 10 (18:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I know you guys talked a little bit about it,
But what bothers you the most about this investigation, whether
it's the poker games or prop bets or you know,
did anything stand out that would would alarm you a
little bit more. Being a former player now an analyst.
Speaker 12 (18:56):
Well, it all alarms me first and foremost. Number one,
if you're rigging poker games, especially some of the guys
are your friends, that's a bad thing. But obviously when
players are out here points shaving basically what it is.
You know, you can come up with prop bets or
gamble out lesson. Man, if you're out here shaving points,
that's just bad. You know, we've all then, we've all
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been so blessed to make. We make more money in
one month than most people are gonna make the entire lifetime.
And all you got to do is play basketball. You
we're the luckiest people in the world. I say this
about sports man. I love sports, but we are so
lucky and blessed. We get to do something so stupid
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and we make more money. Think about Dan, Most of
us get paid back. Then you get paid twice a month,
and you make more money during that period. And most
people are gonna make in their lifetime the mone of
these guys are making today. And to do something hopefully,
like I said, I'm hoping all these as are not true.
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But if you did something that stupid. It's just it's just,
it's just stupid, plain and simple.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Do you get in these poker games that are held
outside of a casino.
Speaker 10 (20:11):
I'm not a poker guy. First of all. I would
never gamble at somebody house.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I'm not gonna lie, not gonna Charles froze up there,
fear me. Yeah, now, yeah, you froze up again.
Speaker 12 (20:23):
Yeah, I don't. I don't believe in gambling at people houses.
And I and I I don't go to casino. I
love you know, you know, I gamble a lot, but
I don't play poker. Uh, but no, I don't go
to people house and gamble. Dan and nobody's coming to
my house to gamble either.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Talking to Charles Barkley NBA on ESPN, almost said, TNT,
it's been weird.
Speaker 10 (20:45):
Ernie. Ernie screwed it. He said, he only did it
one time.
Speaker 12 (20:51):
I knew that was gonna happen, but he only did
it one time in three shows, So it's been pretty good.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
If Austin Reeves was the let's say that Luca and
Lebron weren't on the Lakers and it was Austin Reeves team.
Are these numbers sustainable for a player like.
Speaker 10 (21:08):
That impossible because he could.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Get froze up again. Yeah, he froze up a couple
of times there. All right, let me take a break.
We'll come back with Charles Barklay after this. When I
last spoke to you, I asked if Austin Reeves could
he be the number one guy? Could he put up
these numbers on a team?
Speaker 10 (21:32):
No, because they're gonna make adjustments.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
He froze up again.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
That's crazy, ended Dan.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, okay, you're good now.
Speaker 12 (21:43):
Yeah, teams are gonna start making adjustments, so his forty
gonna come down to twenty five or more, you know,
because I don't think he's that type of guy who's
gonna get forty a night or like now, he's got
like a triple yellow caution light, can shoot anytime he
wants to. But as teams adjust, they're gonna make adjustments
on him. He's a really good player. But also to
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go out there and get for tonight is really hard.
I mean, well, because nobody's ever done it. I mean,
I mean, nobody's ever average forty points in the NBA
other than probably Will Chamberlain back in the day. But
teams are going to make adjustment to make him pass
the ball more, which he's comfortable with. But he's a
hellth of a player.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Is there any basketball player's future you would trade for
Victor wimbin Yama's future.
Speaker 12 (22:31):
Well, the only question about Victory's health, there's never I mean,
there's never been a question about him playing. It's just
can he stay healthy? You know these guys who have
these very unique bodies. I mean, and he probably got
the most unique body we've ever seen in the NBA
other than Shaquille. Like Shaquille when we me and Kevin
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McHale talk about it, when the first time we saw
Shaquille O'Neill, we couldn't believe how big an athletic he was.
He's probably and I met Will but I never got
to see him play. But Shaquille had the most unique
body I've ever seen in the NBA because how big
and strong and fast than he was. But Victor's different
because you look at Minute Bowl, Jeorge Morrison, Mark Eden,
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guys who are like seven three seventy four, they didn't
have this type of athletic ability. They couldn't shoot threes
and dribbling things like that. So he's probably the most
unique player we've had in the NBA, and we never
had anything like him.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
If Ralph Samson was playing today, Ralf Samson could be
maybe a Winbin Yama kind of player.
Speaker 10 (23:40):
Yeah, but Ralf never had to dribbling skills.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Well, they didn't let him.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Now they're saying to a big guy, we want you
to handle the ball, shoot the threes.
Speaker 10 (23:50):
First of all, No, I forgot to Todd.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Why don't we see if we get Charles just on
the phone here because I don't No, there you are again, Yeah,
let me try it one more time and then if not,
well we'll just we'll try another another day.
Speaker 12 (24:07):
So if Reph Sampson played in the NBA today, would
he be compared with the Victor only if he was
able to dribble and shoot threes like Victor does. But
Victor is the most unique player we've had in the
NBA since your Quiel.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Can you see where Steph Curry would be the second
option on the Warriors a couple of years from now
that that would extend his career, but he might not
be the number one guy.
Speaker 12 (24:35):
Well, they would have to bring in a big time
free agent. I think right now they're stuck with the team.
They have the only question is Victor Kamingau.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Is that his name, Victor Kaminga, Jonathan Kaminga.
Speaker 10 (24:47):
Jonathan Cominga. Excuse me?
Speaker 12 (24:49):
So he's the only he's the wild card because we've
seen how far that team can go with Draymond and
Jeremy Butler their.
Speaker 10 (24:56):
First round team.
Speaker 12 (24:57):
The only question is can jump the Kaminga take the
next step because in the West, you're gonna have to
be OKC, you're gonna have to be Houston, You're gonna.
Speaker 10 (25:09):
Have to beat the joker.
Speaker 12 (25:11):
So can he grow enough to get them past the
second round of the playoffs. That's the only question with
the Warriors because Steph is clearly he's on the down
side of his career. You can't expect him to play
like he did that game last week in June. I mean,
that's just physically impossible because everybody's fresh right now, Dan,
(25:31):
everybody's fresh. But you can't expect a thirty seven year
old to go to November, December, January averaging thirty five
points a game. That's just not gonna happen. Man, get
through three or four rounds in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Michael Jordan, in his interview with Mike Tariko, was talking
about load management. Back in the day, you guys took
great pride in playing every single game. How do you
think today's player will react to what Michael Jordan said
about outload management.
Speaker 12 (26:01):
Well, first of all, we don't care what they think. Dan,
men and you have discussed loads of manager on this
show for years. It sucks load management. These guys can
play basketball two days in a row. We played basketball
two days in row. They got better equipment. They got
they got better equipment, they got better medicals, they got
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cold plunges, they got hyperbaric chambers, they got private planes. Now,
if we can play back to back games and Chuck
Taylor's and things like that, and fly commercial.
Speaker 10 (26:36):
I flew commercial my first four years in the NBA.
Speaker 12 (26:39):
We didn't have ice plunge, we had ice ice bags,
we didn't have hyperbarrick chambers. So if we can do
that for two million dollars a year, they damn sure
can do it for forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 10 (26:52):
And Dan, we said it before.
Speaker 12 (26:55):
It's interesting how it took up a life of its
own because it was Michael Jordan. You you asked me
last time. I can't remember. I love doing your show.
First of all, I must love doing your damn show.
You make me get up and damn six o'clock in
the morning, I want to kick you in taz ass.
I just want you to know that it's six o'clock
in the morning. But you asked me what was a
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bigger problem in the NBA. All the threes are load management,
and I said to you, quite as load management. It's
sad when Michael says that it's like just turning into
a wildfire. It's been a problem for years, and let
me tell you some Dan, it's going to really be
a problem going forward because we got guys making seventy
(27:37):
million dollars a year, God bless them. That's just on them.
But when we start having guys making eighty ninety one
hundred million dollars a year and they says, yeah, I
played last night, I can't play tomorrow. We can't just
keep crapping on the fans saying that that that's just disrespectful.
Number one is disrespectful to the game, But it's really
(27:58):
disrespectful to the fan. If I saved up all my
money expensive as tickets are, did some of these star
is only gonna come to East Coast, West coast one
time a year, and you're making ninety million dollars and
you can't play basketball two years, two days in a row.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
That's one hund wrong.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I said the same thing. My reaction to Jordan was,
this is obvious. Of course he's going to be against
load management, and it makes his reputation, you know, stand
even taller because he didn't take games off. He tried
to play in every single game, so there wasn't any
news in this. And you're right if Mike says it,
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all of a sudden, load management's a topic again. And
I'm like, these guys today don't care.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
They don't care.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
What Michael Jordan says about home. I'm going to play
every game now because Mike said so well.
Speaker 10 (28:51):
And the thing that bothers me, I wish they would
tell the truth.
Speaker 12 (28:55):
Uh, instead of just saying you hear people saying well,
it's not healthy or the like that, just say I
want it and listen.
Speaker 10 (29:03):
This is a fair thing.
Speaker 12 (29:04):
On their point, if I'm able to play basketball two
or three more years, I'm probably gonna make an extra
fifty to one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 10 (29:14):
I mean, depending on who you are.
Speaker 12 (29:16):
Even if you like, say, if you're a star, who like,
if you play an extra three years, you're gonna make
a minimum of probably one hundred million dollars. Dan, if
you can pay add three years, at the end of
your career, you're probably gonna be making thirty to fifty
sixty million dollars. And I understand that, But just say, hey,
(29:37):
I'm trying to extend my career. Don't just tell don't
try to tell me it's not healthy. I've seen reports
out there saying it's not healthy to play, dude, But
for guys that played basketball back to back their entire life.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, I'm with you, And I understand this because if
you said to Larry Bird, hey, why don't you do
load manage? You might be able to extend your career
three more years. Or I said that to Steve Nash,
you know, would they do load management if they knew
I got a chance to play a few more years here?
Speaker 10 (30:12):
And I understand that argument.
Speaker 12 (30:14):
But what Michael said, Man, these people are only gonna
get to see the great ones every now and then,
Like Michael Jordan car Malone was only gonna come to
Philly one time a year. He's only going to go
to New York one time a year. Magic Johnson's only
(30:36):
coming to Philly one time a year. That's not fair, Like, Yo,
you got to play in New York, you gotta Can
you imagine in the day, if Magic Johnson had a said, Hey,
we played, I'm gonna pick some crap and okay, I
shouldn't say that I know I'm gonna get in trouble.
Can you imagine if Magic Johnson said, we planned, I
(31:00):
played in Brooklyn last night. I'm not gonna play against
the Celtics the next day. Can you can you just
think about how stupid that sounds. I played in Indiana
and I apologize to Brooklyn. Now we played at the
Pacers last night. I'm not gonna play against the Celtics tonight.
(31:20):
Can you can Can you imagine?
Speaker 10 (31:22):
Imagine?
Speaker 3 (31:22):
David Stern?
Speaker 10 (31:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (31:24):
Can you imagine if LARVII Bird said, Hey, we played
the Clippers last night. I'm gonna sit out this Lakers
game tomorrow. Can you imagine how that's stupid that sounds?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Uh, you won the MVP in nineteen ninety three. Yes,
if I said you could trade in the MVP but
the Suns win the championship.
Speaker 12 (31:47):
Yeah, I would rather win the championship. But you know,
nobody can take away what I accompassed that year. You
know it's Cam Newton.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
The reason why I bring it up. Cam Newton said
that he would rather win the NFL NB like he
wouldn't trade his m VP for a Super Bowl win.
Speaker 12 (32:06):
Well, well, we all have our thing, Like I wanted
to win a championship for the people of Phoenix. That
I've said, that's my only regret not winning the championship
in Phoenix, because you know, this is where I live.
These people have always treated me amazing, Like Philip, that's
no disrespect to Philly, but they've already won a championship.
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That's my only regret of my career is not winning
a championship for the Phoenix Suns fans. But yo, man,
that year I was the best basketball player in the world.
Speaker 10 (32:38):
We had the best record in the world.
Speaker 12 (32:39):
I like these That's the one thing that annoys me
about ESP and I'm not gonna lie they are. They
have this stupid argument every year about the MVP, that
Michael should have won more or Lebron should have won more.
It's not who's the best player, it's the person who
had the best year. It's like, because let me use
an analogy, you're trying to tell me. When Magic and
(33:02):
Bird were going back and forth on MVPs, one of
them was better than the other. Notes whoever had the
best regular season. But now guys like to start like
Lebron should have won, Like David Rose was the best
player in the world. That year he won MVP. The
Chicago Bulls had the best record of the Eastern Conference.
The years Karl Malone won the MVP, the Utah Jazz
(33:23):
had the best record in the NBA.
Speaker 10 (33:25):
Like Chack. Chack always gets to know that Steve Nash, well.
Speaker 12 (33:30):
Steve Nash as good as should kill No, but the
Phoenix Suns had the best record in the NBA both
years he won MVP. I don't think Steve Nash would
Steve when nats to tell you, No, I was not
better than Kobe Bryant, but those two years.
Speaker 10 (33:46):
I had a better regular season. It's a regular season award.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Did you think you were better than Jordan? Not having
just a better year than Jordan in ninety three, but
you were better than Jordan.
Speaker 12 (33:58):
I did not realize that I was not as good
as Michael Jordan, so I played him in the finals.
Because when I got traded to Phoenix, I told the guys,
we're going to the finals and we're gonna play the Bulls.
That's the first thing I told them when I got
traded the Phoenix, and I said, the only reason, Michael
Jordan I felt like it was just as good, I said,
the only reason he's better. He got Scottie Pippen, Dennis Robin,
(34:18):
Harris Grant, guys like that, Packson, bj He had a
hell of a team, I said, But now I got
Kevin Johnson, Dan Marley said to Bolos Mark West. And
it wasn't until after game two that I realized that
he was better than me because I had fifty he
had fifty five. I told the guys, we're gonna win tonight.
(34:38):
We're gonna win the game tonight, and I did.
Speaker 10 (34:40):
I had.
Speaker 12 (34:40):
I think I had forty seven, to be exact, but
he had like fifty two. That was the first time
because like even when I played against Magic and Barry,
I was like, I'm just as good as these guys.
But they got James Worthy and Kareem and Barry McHale
in Paris and Dennis Johnson. But I don't think any
great player. Think Karl Malone thinks he's the greatest. I
(35:02):
think Patrick Ewing, I think all you can't be a
great player unless you think you're betting everybody else, because
you have to have supreme confidence. But like then, there's
a lot of guys who are delusional. They're just good.
It's just alright, good player. They think they're bad.
Speaker 10 (35:18):
They are.
Speaker 12 (35:19):
But there's no great player. There's no Hall of Fame
type player who don't think he's the best player out
there every night.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Lebron's not out there. You said that he's got an
old guy injury.
Speaker 12 (35:32):
He's just old. Everybody gets old. Yeah, he says, a sciatica.
You know what that means. Yeah, I know. It's back hurt.
All old people back hurt. Then all old people back hurt.
You can you can dress it up like a sciatica.
You can come up with all these medical terms. Lebron
is old.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Ah, you froze up again. Thank you, Charles. We'll talk
to you soon, all right, man, have a great one, Okay.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh, there are a lot of people in Los Angeles
doing the following this morning. That was a long game,
late night, six hours, thirty nine minutes. One of the
greatest World Series games that maybe you didn't see. That's
one of those where you go, I'm going to be
watching Sports Center in the morning and one of the
(00:25):
great home runs of all time that I don't know
how many people got to see Freddie Freeman go deep
to win that game last night. So the Dodgers beat
the Blue Jays on Freddie Freeman's home run in the
eighteenth as they lead two games to one. Can we
play what it sounded like?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Marvin? Do we have the call on Am five seventy,
Little delivers Freeman.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's on high in the air, straightaway center field, carcel petal.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Walk Freddie Freeman, mister World Series hens the marathon at midnight.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Freddie Freeman is one of four players with multiple walk
off home runs in the postseason, so David Ortiz, Bernie Williams,
in Carlos Correa, but Freddie is the only player in
baseball history with multiple walkoff home runs in the World Series.
Shoho Tani oh, by the way, had two home runs,
two doubles. They also walked him five times, four intentionally.
(01:33):
And that's one of those moments where, and we were
talking about this earlier this morning, we're actually watching the
greatest baseball player of all time. We're watching him in
real time. It's happening right now. It's not one of
those Hey, you should have seen that guy play. He's
the greatest baseball player of all time. Babe Ruth did something,
(01:53):
but he didn't do it together. He didn't do a combination.
That doesn't mean he couldn't have done it, but he
didn't do it. He was a great pitcher, best pitcher
in the game, and then all of a sudden decided
to be the greatest hitter. Show hey Otani with what
he and he pitches tonight. So you're going to have
that performance where you walk him four times. And I
(02:14):
talked about this when the series started. If you don't
have left handed pitching against the Dodgers, you're in trouble
because you don't have you got Freddie Freeman and show
Hey Otani, and if you don't have somebody that you
can bring in and go, I can get that guy
out they've gotten to the point where he's getting Bond's treatment,
and I want you to pitch in shame. If you're
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going to intentionally walk him, I want you to throw
the four pitches that look silly because you don't want
to face him. I don't want it to be I
had we're going to walk him and I point him
to first base. Nope, I want you to pitch in shame.
I want you to acknowledge that you can't get him out,
and you throw those four pitches. But I mean one
of the home runs, I went, oh, what are we doing?
(02:57):
What do you how could you possibly put it anywhere
near that? And they did, and I'm thinking, oh my goodness,
so oh Tani made him pay. Freddie Freeman made him pay.
There was one nervous moment there when Clayton Kershaw was
in with the bases loaded.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I just was like, just get the out, go, sit down,
don't pitch anymore, and maybe you win the World Series.
But they would cut away to his wife, Oh, you
talk about the ebb and flow, the highs and lows,
and you rarely think about when you're the family is
there watching this, Oh, just get off the mount that's
(03:39):
all I could think of. But watching that last night,
or at least as long as I could, you're watching
the best player in baseball history.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I know people are going to say, well, what about
Babe Ruth. Babe was a better hitter. But what he
is doing at the same time, and imagine, just imagine
if he goes out there tonight and pitches at five
or six innings quality baseball and everybody emptied their bullpen,
like this is one of those losses that's not just
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one loss. You used your bullpen. You realize you can't
pitch to Otani, and all of a sudden you're gonna
face him on the mound. That was monumental I think
last night. But up two games to one, I know
it's only one game. All it takes is, you know,
a couple of breaks going your way, but that one,
(04:29):
that one's stinging, and you got to turn around and
go back out there and play again tonight, and then
the next game is on Wednesday. So these pitching staffs
are really going to be taxed. But that's where if
you get Yamamoto who gives you a complete game, if
Otani can give you five or six innings here, you
have an incredible advantage here, all right, see let's pull
(04:51):
question for hour one.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Yeah, you know, when you look at his at bats
last night, Show Heyotani, he had a double, a home run,
a double, a home run. He was then intentionally walked
f war straight times and then walk the fifth time.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
That's a hell of a night.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, when you're talking about let me see. So he
walked five times, four intentionally, reach based nine times nine
times in the game, the only player to be walked
intentionally four times in a postseason game since they started
tracking this in nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's fight.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Paul is just saying, if you took that series of
at bats from show Hey Tony, just from last night,
that's good enough to win a World Series MVP for
the whole series.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So week, the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
If you had two doubles and two home runs, well.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
He won the National League the NLCS MVP based off
one game, and he might win this MVP wait based
off one game.
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Speaker 2 (06:24):
The Louisiana Governor is Jeff Landry. He told reporters yesterday
that the LSU athletic director Scott Woodward would not be
involved in selecting LSU's next football coach, saying he would
let President Donald Trump do it before Woodward. Okay, a joke,
but still, this is your acting athletic director here.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Today.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Of course, fired Brian Kelly. Now you've got a settlement here,
and Brian Kelly's going to walk away with perhaps fifty
four million dollars. And well, here is the governor yesterday
at the press conference.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
This is a pattern.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
The guy that's here now, I wrote that contract cost
Texas A and M seventy something million dollars right now,
we got a fifty three million dollar liability. We are
not doing that again. And you know what, I believe.
I believe that we're going to find a great coach.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
You know, I'm not going to be picking the next coach,
but I can promise you we're going to pick a coach,
and we're going to make sure that that coach is successful,
and we're going to make sure that he's compensated properly,
and we're going to put.
Speaker 8 (07:30):
Metrics on it. Because I'm tired of rewarding failure in
this country and then leaving the tax payers, you know,
to foot the bill. Look, my role is about the
fiscal effect of firing a coach under a terrible contract.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Okay, So, he criticized Woodward, the athletic director, for gringing
to a ten year, ninety five million dollar contract with
Brian Kelly. LSU's on the hook for fifty four million dollars.
Woodward said that the school would quote continue to negotiate
Brian Kelly's separation and will work towards a path for
(08:09):
that's better for both parties now. The governor then also
criticized his athletic director for agreeing to a similar one
sided coaching contract when Texas A and M. He was
the athletic director when Jimbo Fisher got his contract. We
have another comment from the governor Marvin Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Who's no.
Speaker 8 (08:35):
I can tell you right now, Skwood is not selecting
the next coach.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Hell, I'll let Donald Trump select it before I'll let
him do it.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
I don't know, but the Vorta Superas is going to
come up with a committee and they're going to go
find us a coach.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's SEC football right there, that's SEC football. Yeah, you
got to throw my athletic director under the bus. Yes, ton,
real quick question. What about the taxes? Another player rate
in our streets need to be a lot more safe
and all the kids don't have school books where we
gonna go. Okay, But in fairness to the governor, this
was not about the football situation. He was asked football
(09:09):
questions and then that was at the end of the
press conference. I don't know what the press conference was about,
but I know what it became about, because it was about,
you know, picking your successor to Brian Kelly and doing
it in a fiscal way. Now, I don't know if
this means, Hey, how about it not a ten year deal. Hey,
maybe you don't get that coach because you're going to
(09:30):
be tied up for ten years, and you should never
be tied up for ten years with a coach with
that amount of money. And they this athletic director has
done it twice with Jimbo Fisher and now Brian Kelly.
You may not get the guy you want, but you
might get somebody who is on the precipice of being somebody,
and maybe you get them at a better price.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Don't go over five years, don't.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It in today's In today's college football climate, nobody's staying
around for ten years, whether they want to leave or
you want them to leave. Sustainability is so difficult. Now,
I'm not signing up for ten years with anybody. I'd
have a pre nup, yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 9 (10:15):
So in theory, the governor is agreeing with what you're saying,
and he's going to have a more fiscally conscious contract.
Wherever the next head coach of LSU is, I don't
know if he realizes that's not the current trend in
college football, and no current coach is going to consider
LSU under those conditions. For example, Lane Kiffin, if he
gets a call from LSU and says, we're going to
(10:37):
offer you a six year contract and the buyout is light.
Speaker 10 (10:41):
He will not.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
Return their calls because Florida will not do that. They'll
would be with the old rules ten years, one hundred
and ten million.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Even if I give ten years to Lane Kiffin, he's
not staying there ten years.
Speaker 9 (10:53):
But he will never join your football team.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You know what, at some point, I have to have
some kind of continuity. I have to have where we're
both in this together. And Brian Kelly was never a
good fit.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
He wasn't.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
He's a really good coach. He's going to coach someplace.
He's going to get opportunities. Vegas already has odds of
where they think he's going to end up.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
He will coach.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
But if you're going to try to even Indiana with
Kurt Signetti, I love the story.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
He's been successful. I don't want to give you nine years.
I'm going to give you five. I'm going to give
you five.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Top end dollars. But after that then we go into
this together. And it's not his age, it's just I
can't give you ten years. That's an eternity in college
football now. But the governor's involved in this. And I
(11:53):
know you got other younger coaches here that would love
to coach LSU. Maybe you sign him up for five years,
Maybe you get a friendly contract there. I mean, who
are the marquee coaches that you have to give a
ten year deal to? James Franklin. I don't want James Franklin.
(12:14):
Urban Meyer is not going to show up in the doorstep.
The only guy that you would ever consider this, or
you might have to consider this, is Lane Kiffen Nick
Saban's not coming back to LSU. Urban Meyer. The one
guy is Lane Kiffin. All the other coaches, no, Ryan
(12:36):
Day is not going to NSU. So who are the
coaches where you go?
Speaker 10 (12:41):
We're go.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I gotta give him ten years. Kirby Smart's not going down.
None of these coaches are going there. It's Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
That's it. Yeah, Paul, I don't know if you'd look
at it.
Speaker 9 (12:53):
There's no reports, but if Dan Landing of Oregon put
himself out there, it would be interesting to see what
he got from Melish.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Just coach energetic. But you're at Oregon, you're in the
Big ten.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
You got the financial resources that match Texas. You know,
you got, you know, the Boosters, Phil Knight, Nike, that atmosphere. Now,
I know he's an SEC guy, so I guess there's
always that chance.
Speaker 11 (13:24):
Yes, Marmon, what about Dabosweeney.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
He's gonna want He'll want a ten year deal, but
I don't. I don't want Dabo Sweeney for ten years
in today. It's really a ten year guy. But I
don't want him not in today's college football because it's
not working at Clemson. Your model is not working at
Clemson right now. It did, but it's not going to
it's not sustainable. You're gonna go to LSU. What system
(13:53):
are you bringing in to LSU?
Speaker 9 (13:55):
Yeah, Pauline, I could see Sweeney because it's cooled off
at Clemson right now and before you get a chance
to be fired. Remember the old Jimbo Fisher model at
Florida State. I'm cooling off. I'm cooling off. I'm going
to run to A and M and get ten years,
seventy five million. That could be what Dabo does before
someone else tells him he's leaving.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I hope LSU hires somebody who is, you know, an
up and coming guy and get that opportunity. But you know,
maybe you get these guys who go I could swoop
in and get a big payday here. It feels like
lane Kiffin's gone.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
It just feels like that.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And I brought this up about the documentary that I
saw on the mother Ship, and there's no reason for
him to leave Oxford given that he's family's there, he's healthy.
Now there's a lot of positives there what he's doing
for ole Miss, But I don't know if Lane has
always got one foot in and one foot out. It
(14:51):
just feels like that's his personality. Yes, Marv, do you.
Speaker 11 (14:55):
Think that the LSU brass would put up with a
lower level, kind of no name head coach, Like we're LSU,
how come we don't have a big time coach? If
they get some guy that came from a smaller school,
did be like who.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well Ed Orgeron wasn't a big name coach. Les Miles
wasn't a big name coach.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Nick Saban became a big name coach, So I think
it can be a launching pad.
Speaker 9 (15:23):
Yeah, Paulie, lane Kiffin does not make quite as much
as some of the other coaches. I think he's I
don't think he's in the top He's the eleventh highest
paid coach in the country as of this year. That
win he had over Oklahoma last week actually triggered a
one year contract extension for him, and that will pay
him nine million. But that's at the back end of
his contract.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
He is, all right, I pump him up two more
million dollars. Yeah, I put him in eleven million dollars.
I keep him there.
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Are you an ESPN employee? Do you get invited to
the Christmas party?
Speaker 10 (16:10):
I don't know. I didn't know they had a Christmas party.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, yeah, it's a big one. Now, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You have to go to Bristol, Connecticut Open bar I
mean it's a big deal.
Speaker 12 (16:22):
Well, you know, you know, I was talking to Matt
Barry and Michael Eves. I've actually never been to the
ESPN studio. I want to do that before our relationship started,
and I just got busy playing golf every day this summer.
But it looks amazing on television the campus. So but no,
I haven't got invited to the Christmas party, but I
(16:42):
do want to go see I talked to Matt Barry
and Michael Leaves and my girl al Duncan. At some point,
I want to get to see that studio on an
off day. Not that I want to work or anything.
I just want to go see you.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, how is your schedule If you go there, they're
going to put you to work.
Speaker 12 (16:58):
Well, that's why I'm gonna go doing the summer. Well,
I can't just it. There's nothing going on except football
every day. I'na make sure there's no basketball or anything
going on.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
It doesn't matter if you go in that building, you're
gonna be on ESPN News or two or NFL Live
or you know.
Speaker 10 (17:16):
I'm brushing up. I'm brushing up in my Spanish so
I can do this. I got to get ready for
I got to get ready for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You guys haven't missed a step though. Seems like you know,
gang's all back together and now has your approach to
the NBA changed at all since you're now on ESPN.
Speaker 12 (17:36):
No, it's been great, you know, the guys at ESPN,
Dan I said this, and I wasn't kissing anybody, as
you know, I ain't gonna kiss nobody. As that's the
best thing about having mine. I don't have to listen
to anybody. It's an honoring and privilege to work for
ESPN because every kid grew up wanting to be on SPN.
They did, like every kid who's ever touched any type
(17:58):
of ball. If they're being honest, if you go on ESPN,
you feel like you've made it. So it's an honor
to work for him. And we've only did three shows
and they've been great. They left us alone.
Speaker 10 (18:09):
You know.
Speaker 12 (18:09):
The only thing that sucked about it is in Game
one on NBC, we had a great double overtime game,
which was awesome. Then the next night we had winby
go crazy. We had Steph go crazy for us, and
we didn't even get to talk about that because of
this gambling BS and that was the only downer. But
(18:34):
other than that, it's been fantastic.
Speaker 10 (18:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I know you guys talked a little bit about it,
But what bothers you the most about this investigation, whether
it's the poker games or prop bets or you know,
did anything stand out that would would alarm you a
little bit more. Being a former player now an analyst.
Speaker 12 (18:56):
Well, it all alarms me first and foremost. Number one,
if you're rigging poker games, especially some of the guys
are your friends, that's a bad thing. But obviously when
players are out here points shaving basically what it is.
You know, you can come up with prop bets or
gamble out lesson. Man, if you're out here shaving points,
that's just bad. You know, we've all then, we've all
(19:18):
been so blessed to make. We make more money in
one month than most people are gonna make the entire lifetime.
And all you got to do is play basketball. You
we're the luckiest people in the world. I say this
about sports man. I love sports, but we are so
lucky and blessed. We get to do something so stupid
(19:41):
and we make more money. Think about Dan, Most of
us get paid back. Then you get paid twice a month,
and you make more money during that period. And most
people are gonna make in their lifetime the mone of
these guys are making today. And to do something hopefully,
like I said, I'm hoping all these as are not true.
(20:02):
But if you did something that stupid. It's just it's just,
it's just stupid, plain and simple.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Do you get in these poker games that are held
outside of a casino.
Speaker 10 (20:11):
I'm not a poker guy. First of all. I would
never gamble at somebody house.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I'm not gonna lie, not gonna Charles froze up there,
fear me. Yeah, now, yeah, you froze up again.
Speaker 12 (20:23):
Yeah, I don't. I don't believe in gambling at people houses.
And I and I I don't go to casino. I
love you know, you know, I gamble a lot, but
I don't play poker. Uh, but no, I don't go
to people house and gamble. Dan and nobody's coming to
my house to gamble either.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Talking to Charles Barkley NBA on ESPN, almost said, TNT,
it's been weird.
Speaker 10 (20:45):
Ernie. Ernie screwed it. He said, he only did it
one time.
Speaker 12 (20:51):
I knew that was gonna happen, but he only did
it one time in three shows, So it's been pretty good.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
If Austin Reeves was the let's say that Luca and
Lebron weren't on the Lakers and it was Austin Reeves team.
Are these numbers sustainable for a player like.
Speaker 10 (21:08):
That impossible because he could.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Get froze up again. Yeah, he froze up a couple
of times there. All right, let me take a break.
We'll come back with Charles Barklay after this. When I
last spoke to you, I asked if Austin Reeves could
he be the number one guy? Could he put up
these numbers on a team?
Speaker 10 (21:32):
No, because they're gonna make adjustments.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
He froze up again.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
That's crazy, ended Dan.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, okay, you're good now.
Speaker 12 (21:43):
Yeah, teams are gonna start making adjustments, so his forty
gonna come down to twenty five or more, you know,
because I don't think he's that type of guy who's
gonna get forty a night or like now, he's got
like a triple yellow caution light, can shoot anytime he
wants to. But as teams adjust, they're gonna make adjustments
on him. He's a really good player. But also to
(22:06):
go out there and get for tonight is really hard.
I mean, well, because nobody's ever done it. I mean,
I mean, nobody's ever average forty points in the NBA
other than probably Will Chamberlain back in the day. But
teams are going to make adjustment to make him pass
the ball more, which he's comfortable with. But he's a
hellth of a player.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Is there any basketball player's future you would trade for
Victor wimbin Yama's future.
Speaker 12 (22:31):
Well, the only question about Victory's health, there's never I mean,
there's never been a question about him playing. It's just
can he stay healthy? You know these guys who have
these very unique bodies. I mean, and he probably got
the most unique body we've ever seen in the NBA
other than Shaquille. Like Shaquille when we me and Kevin
(22:53):
McHale talk about it, when the first time we saw
Shaquille O'Neill, we couldn't believe how big an athletic he was.
He's probably and I met Will but I never got
to see him play. But Shaquille had the most unique
body I've ever seen in the NBA because how big
and strong and fast than he was. But Victor's different
because you look at Minute Bowl, Jeorge Morrison, Mark Eden,
(23:17):
guys who are like seven three seventy four, they didn't
have this type of athletic ability. They couldn't shoot threes
and dribbling things like that. So he's probably the most
unique player we've had in the NBA, and we never
had anything like him.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
If Ralph Samson was playing today, Ralf Samson could be
maybe a Winbin Yama kind of player.
Speaker 10 (23:40):
Yeah, but Ralf never had to dribbling skills.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Well, they didn't let him.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Now they're saying to a big guy, we want you
to handle the ball, shoot the threes.
Speaker 10 (23:50):
First of all, No, I forgot to Todd.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Why don't we see if we get Charles just on
the phone here because I don't No, there you are again, Yeah,
let me try it one more time and then if not,
well we'll just we'll try another another day.
Speaker 12 (24:07):
So if Reph Sampson played in the NBA today, would
he be compared with the Victor only if he was
able to dribble and shoot threes like Victor does. But
Victor is the most unique player we've had in the
NBA since your Quiel.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Can you see where Steph Curry would be the second
option on the Warriors a couple of years from now
that that would extend his career, but he might not
be the number one guy.
Speaker 12 (24:35):
Well, they would have to bring in a big time
free agent. I think right now they're stuck with the team.
They have the only question is Victor Kamingau.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Is that his name, Victor Kaminga, Jonathan Kaminga.
Speaker 10 (24:47):
Jonathan Cominga. Excuse me?
Speaker 12 (24:49):
So he's the only he's the wild card because we've
seen how far that team can go with Draymond and
Jeremy Butler their.
Speaker 10 (24:56):
First round team.
Speaker 12 (24:57):
The only question is can jump the Kaminga take the
next step because in the West, you're gonna have to
be OKC, you're gonna have to be Houston, You're gonna.
Speaker 10 (25:09):
Have to beat the joker.
Speaker 12 (25:11):
So can he grow enough to get them past the
second round of the playoffs. That's the only question with
the Warriors because Steph is clearly he's on the down
side of his career. You can't expect him to play
like he did that game last week in June. I mean,
that's just physically impossible because everybody's fresh right now, Dan,
(25:31):
everybody's fresh. But you can't expect a thirty seven year
old to go to November, December, January averaging thirty five
points a game. That's just not gonna happen. Man, get
through three or four rounds in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Michael Jordan, in his interview with Mike Tariko, was talking
about load management. Back in the day, you guys took
great pride in playing every single game. How do you
think today's player will react to what Michael Jordan said
about outload management.
Speaker 12 (26:01):
Well, first of all, we don't care what they think. Dan,
men and you have discussed loads of manager on this
show for years. It sucks load management. These guys can
play basketball two days in a row. We played basketball
two days in row. They got better equipment. They got
they got better equipment, they got better medicals, they got
(26:23):
cold plunges, they got hyperbaric chambers, they got private planes. Now,
if we can play back to back games and Chuck
Taylor's and things like that, and fly commercial.
Speaker 10 (26:36):
I flew commercial my first four years in the NBA.
Speaker 12 (26:39):
We didn't have ice plunge, we had ice ice bags,
we didn't have hyperbarrick chambers. So if we can do
that for two million dollars a year, they damn sure
can do it for forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 10 (26:52):
And Dan, we said it before.
Speaker 12 (26:55):
It's interesting how it took up a life of its
own because it was Michael Jordan. You you asked me
last time. I can't remember. I love doing your show.
First of all, I must love doing your damn show.
You make me get up and damn six o'clock in
the morning, I want to kick you in taz ass.
I just want you to know that it's six o'clock
in the morning. But you asked me what was a
(27:16):
bigger problem in the NBA. All the threes are load management,
and I said to you, quite as load management. It's
sad when Michael says that it's like just turning into
a wildfire. It's been a problem for years, and let
me tell you some Dan, it's going to really be
a problem going forward because we got guys making seventy
(27:37):
million dollars a year, God bless them. That's just on them.
But when we start having guys making eighty ninety one
hundred million dollars a year and they says, yeah, I
played last night, I can't play tomorrow. We can't just
keep crapping on the fans saying that that that's just disrespectful.
Number one is disrespectful to the game, But it's really
(27:58):
disrespectful to the fan. If I saved up all my
money expensive as tickets are, did some of these star
is only gonna come to East Coast, West coast one
time a year, and you're making ninety million dollars and
you can't play basketball two years, two days in a row.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
That's one hund wrong.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I said the same thing. My reaction to Jordan was,
this is obvious. Of course he's going to be against
load management, and it makes his reputation, you know, stand
even taller because he didn't take games off. He tried
to play in every single game, so there wasn't any
news in this. And you're right if Mike says it,
(28:39):
all of a sudden, load management's a topic again. And
I'm like, these guys today don't care.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
They don't care.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
What Michael Jordan says about home. I'm going to play
every game now because Mike said so well.
Speaker 10 (28:51):
And the thing that bothers me, I wish they would
tell the truth.
Speaker 12 (28:55):
Uh, instead of just saying you hear people saying well,
it's not healthy or the like that, just say I
want it and listen.
Speaker 10 (29:03):
This is a fair thing.
Speaker 12 (29:04):
On their point, if I'm able to play basketball two
or three more years, I'm probably gonna make an extra
fifty to one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 10 (29:14):
I mean, depending on who you are.
Speaker 12 (29:16):
Even if you like, say, if you're a star, who like,
if you play an extra three years, you're gonna make
a minimum of probably one hundred million dollars. Dan, if
you can pay add three years, at the end of
your career, you're probably gonna be making thirty to fifty
sixty million dollars. And I understand that, But just say, hey,
(29:37):
I'm trying to extend my career. Don't just tell don't
try to tell me it's not healthy. I've seen reports
out there saying it's not healthy to play, dude, But
for guys that played basketball back to back their entire life.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, I'm with you, And I understand this because if
you said to Larry Bird, hey, why don't you do
load manage? You might be able to extend your career
three more years. Or I said that to Steve Nash,
you know, would they do load management if they knew
I got a chance to play a few more years here?
Speaker 10 (30:12):
And I understand that argument.
Speaker 12 (30:14):
But what Michael said, Man, these people are only gonna
get to see the great ones every now and then,
Like Michael Jordan car Malone was only gonna come to
Philly one time a year. He's only going to go
to New York one time a year. Magic Johnson's only
(30:36):
coming to Philly one time a year. That's not fair, Like, Yo,
you got to play in New York, you gotta Can
you imagine in the day, if Magic Johnson had a said, Hey,
we played, I'm gonna pick some crap and okay, I
shouldn't say that I know I'm gonna get in trouble.
Can you imagine if Magic Johnson said, we planned, I
(31:00):
played in Brooklyn last night. I'm not gonna play against
the Celtics the next day. Can you can you just
think about how stupid that sounds. I played in Indiana
and I apologize to Brooklyn. Now we played at the
Pacers last night. I'm not gonna play against the Celtics tonight.
(31:20):
Can you can Can you imagine?
Speaker 10 (31:22):
Imagine?
Speaker 3 (31:22):
David Stern?
Speaker 10 (31:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (31:24):
Can you imagine if LARVII Bird said, Hey, we played
the Clippers last night. I'm gonna sit out this Lakers
game tomorrow. Can you imagine how that's stupid that sounds?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Uh, you won the MVP in nineteen ninety three. Yes,
if I said you could trade in the MVP but
the Suns win the championship.
Speaker 12 (31:47):
Yeah, I would rather win the championship. But you know,
nobody can take away what I accompassed that year. You
know it's Cam Newton.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
The reason why I bring it up. Cam Newton said
that he would rather win the NFL NB like he
wouldn't trade his m VP for a Super Bowl win.
Speaker 12 (32:06):
Well, well, we all have our thing, Like I wanted
to win a championship for the people of Phoenix. That
I've said, that's my only regret not winning the championship
in Phoenix, because you know, this is where I live.
These people have always treated me amazing, Like Philip, that's
no disrespect to Philly, but they've already won a championship.
(32:28):
That's my only regret of my career is not winning
a championship for the Phoenix Suns fans. But yo, man,
that year I was the best basketball player in the world.
Speaker 10 (32:38):
We had the best record in the world.
Speaker 12 (32:39):
I like these That's the one thing that annoys me
about ESP and I'm not gonna lie they are. They
have this stupid argument every year about the MVP, that
Michael should have won more or Lebron should have won more.
It's not who's the best player, it's the person who
had the best year. It's like, because let me use
an analogy, you're trying to tell me. When Magic and
(33:02):
Bird were going back and forth on MVPs, one of
them was better than the other. Notes whoever had the
best regular season. But now guys like to start like
Lebron should have won, Like David Rose was the best
player in the world. That year he won MVP. The
Chicago Bulls had the best record of the Eastern Conference.
The years Karl Malone won the MVP, the Utah Jazz
(33:23):
had the best record in the NBA.
Speaker 10 (33:25):
Like Chack. Chack always gets to know that Steve Nash, well.
Speaker 12 (33:30):
Steve Nash as good as should kill No, but the
Phoenix Suns had the best record in the NBA both
years he won MVP. I don't think Steve Nash would
Steve when nats to tell you, No, I was not
better than Kobe Bryant, but those two years.
Speaker 10 (33:46):
I had a better regular season. It's a regular season award.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Did you think you were better than Jordan? Not having
just a better year than Jordan in ninety three, but
you were better than Jordan.
Speaker 12 (33:58):
I did not realize that I was not as good
as Michael Jordan, so I played him in the finals.
Because when I got traded to Phoenix, I told the guys,
we're going to the finals and we're gonna play the Bulls.
That's the first thing I told them when I got
traded the Phoenix, and I said, the only reason, Michael
Jordan I felt like it was just as good, I said,
the only reason he's better. He got Scottie Pippen, Dennis Robin,
(34:18):
Harris Grant, guys like that, Packson, bj He had a
hell of a team, I said, But now I got
Kevin Johnson, Dan Marley said to Bolos Mark West. And
it wasn't until after game two that I realized that
he was better than me because I had fifty he
had fifty five. I told the guys, we're gonna win tonight.
(34:38):
We're gonna win the game tonight, and I did.
Speaker 10 (34:40):
I had.
Speaker 12 (34:40):
I think I had forty seven, to be exact, but
he had like fifty two. That was the first time
because like even when I played against Magic and Barry,
I was like, I'm just as good as these guys.
But they got James Worthy and Kareem and Barry McHale
in Paris and Dennis Johnson. But I don't think any
great player. Think Karl Malone thinks he's the greatest. I
(35:02):
think Patrick Ewing, I think all you can't be a
great player unless you think you're betting everybody else, because
you have to have supreme confidence. But like then, there's
a lot of guys who are delusional. They're just good.
It's just alright, good player. They think they're bad.
Speaker 10 (35:18):
They are.
Speaker 12 (35:19):
But there's no great player. There's no Hall of Fame
type player who don't think he's the best player out
there every night.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Lebron's not out there. You said that he's got an
old guy injury.
Speaker 12 (35:32):
He's just old. Everybody gets old. Yeah, he says, a sciatica.
You know what that means. Yeah, I know. It's back hurt.
All old people back hurt. Then all old people back hurt.
You can you can dress it up like a sciatica.
You can come up with all these medical terms. Lebron
is old.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Ah, you froze up again. Thank you, Charles. We'll talk
to you soon, all right, man, have a great one, Okay.
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