November 5, 2025 • 41 mins
World Champion Dodgers Manager Dave Roberts joins the show still basking in the afterglow of their World Series win. Plus, co-authors of “Masters of the Game: A Conversational History of the NBA in 75 Legendary Players,” basketball historian Sam Smith & legendary NBA coach Phil Jackon drop by to talk about their new book.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final hour in this Wednesday, it'll be busy. Dave Roberts,
Dodger Skipper will join us. Also Phil Jackson, he's got
a book that he collaborated with the longtime NBA writer,
Bulls writer Sam Smith who gave us the Jordan Rules.
And Phil will join us coming up here in a
little bit. Sunday Night, Pittsburgh has a big challenge. It's
(00:25):
Aaron Rodgers leading the Steelers against Justin Herbert and the Chargers.
That'll be primetime Sunday, seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock.
That's spicy. I like that matchup. That's easy to promote
when you put Justin Herbert there and you put Aaron
Rodgers there, eight seven to seven to three. DP Show
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
If you are watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading
the app and poll question for the final hour, the
program is going to be what seedon?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, let me get you caught up here. I'm sort
of workshopping a Tom Brady dog cloning Polk questions. We
of course, however, let me get you caught up. If
you're a Jets fan today, sixty three percent are feeling
lost currently, which is the best state for football. Indiana's
got thirty percent of that vote. The field, however, has
seventy percent. Okay, and then this one Kyler Murray finishes
(01:17):
his career with the Cardinals, another NFL team, or in
baseball eighty seven percent right now, have another NFL team?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Baseball's getting eleven percent of that vote.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
All right, all right, Paul, he's happy with that. Keith
and Charlotte. Hi, Keith, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (01:38):
I've called you last couple of weeks about our last
couple of months about the Panthers, and I was trying
to get in on Friday to offer another pile of
the faith bet for them to beat the Green Bay Packers.
Whether you believe it or not, it's all good. Timing
didn't work out, so I got another bet for you guys.
It's my birthday today and I'm hoping that someone will
take me up on there.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I need.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
I want to see the content on the show for you, Dan.
I am going to take the Panthers to make the playoffs.
Their defense is playing great. Rice is serviceable for Rico
Donald's rolling. So who's got the who's got the field?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Anybody want a piece of Keith? In Charlotte, he's got
the Panthers making the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yes, Marvin, happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
But no, no, they don't make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
No, no, beg Oh believe? Oh you do believe? In Carolina?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Oh wow? Okay, they got a chance. Well, they got
a winning record. What have they got?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Five wins?
Speaker 8 (02:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (02:39):
Five and win?
Speaker 10 (02:40):
But they got some tough games down the stretch. You
get the Buccaneers twice, the Seahawks, the Rams, the Niners.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Well, once again, Keith is asking if anybody wants a
piece of it.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
According to this website that I'm looking at, they have
about a fifty seven chance of making the playoffs. As
I think in he it looks like they have about
a fifty seven percent chance of making the playoffs. No, okay,
so's that bad?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah? I don't think you have any takers here, Keith.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I think people are kind of saying they kind of
think the Panthers are playoff worthy.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
Ish, I guess I'll take that.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Dam Okay, well you're gonna have to. Nobody else is
going to take you up on that. It's a good story. Yuh,
really a good story.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I think you got everybody's attention when you go to
Green Bay and you beat green Bay. But that's I
think a lot of times what happens is we're like,
what's wrong with green Bay? They've had you know, you
lose to Carolina at home and you lose to the Browns.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, so I completely read that wrong. They have a
fifty seven percent chance to not make a playoffs. They
have an eleven percent chance of getting in as a
seven seed. The wild card seeds, they have about like
a somewhere between a four to let's see, a seven
to eleven percent chance of getting a wild card.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Okay, so are you saying you're gonna take Keith up
on the bet?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Now?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It's a unbelievably optimistic take bye bye key.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Okay, yeah, I'll jump in on it.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Since I messed up what I said before, now I
feel like I have to do it, so I'll jump
in on them. All right, So Keith Seaton will take
you up on the offer. I'm saying that they're not
going to win the bet. Loser gets in a cage
with a panther. Any takers now, is that like.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Rico Daldell that you get in the cage with him
or an actual panther?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Which would you rather least like to be attacked by?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Mark? In Saint Cloud, Minnesota. Hi, Mark, welcome back, And.
Speaker 11 (04:44):
I got a couple of things for you. First of all,
you've touched on the Packers. Why is it they start
so slow? It's like a nonchalant attitude with that team.
And I think it's from the coach on down. I mean,
you never see him get that playered up, and it
reflects in the quarterback. And I know people like calm
quarterbacks and cool under fire, but you can't be Joe
Cool all the time.
Speaker 12 (05:03):
Plus, I have a stat.
Speaker 11 (05:04):
Of the day for you if you're willing sure, all right,
just the moment, Dan, let me pull it up here.
And maybe this goes hand in hand with a state
that is not number one in the country for football
Wisconsin the schools that tell the most booze. The Badgers
lead the list with over three million in revenue. This
is public schools on least, maybe Northwestern sells more. Nebraska
(05:26):
is second, followed by Tennessee, LSU, and Minnesota. And that
list comes from Front Office Sports there's your stat of
the day.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
All right, thank you, Mark.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Woot of the Day, Stall of to day out today,
stand out today. This is the Style.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Of the Day, sat of the Day, brought to you
by Benini America, the official trading cards of the Dan
Patrick Show. Well, look who's back, Dodger manager Dave Roberts.
Another World Series title. Didn't need to make a proclamation
in spring training, didn't have to do any of that stuff.
Just an easy seven games and there you are winning again.
(06:10):
I guess can you compare the back to back the
different feelings that you had.
Speaker 13 (06:17):
Well, I'm glad your who hum about it. It was
very difficult. Winning a championship is very difficult. Winning two
is even tougher. No, I mean, there's nothing like Game seven,
and a lot of things had happened. Guys stepped up,
and I'm just proud of the guys. There's a lot
of pressure points in that series, in the postseason and
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certainly in the World Series. But it certainly wasn't easy.
And yeah, we've done something that hadn't been done in
twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
But you look at pressure and we could see pressure.
It was tangible when you're watching Game seven. But the
pressure to you're supposed to win, expected to win, you know,
the media of the you know, fans. It feels like
the difference in being an underdog in winning, like when
you won with the Red Sox as a player, to
winning when you're the favorite.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
The different kind of pressures are feeling that.
Speaker 14 (07:14):
You have with that, Yeah, you know, I guess, you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 13 (07:21):
I guess The thing about sports is, yeah, everyone's got opinions,
but you know, the David and Goliath narrative, fans, media
put things together that just aren't true, and to be
quite honest, people that have never been in the ring.
And the Blue Jays were a very good team. They
won the ale least, they won more baseball games than
we did. But we're Goliath, and so it was a
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great series and we were trying to win the series.
They were trying to win a World Series. I don't
think he was pressure. I think that what happens is
as athletes, as teams, you have expectations and goals for yourself.
Speaker 15 (07:58):
And.
Speaker 13 (08:00):
You know, you don't want more for yourself than I
think than fans do. You want to win, you expect
to win. So I don't think that our pressure or
pressure from the fans or media had any bearing on
the game. We were trying to win for each other
in the city of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Give me the move that maybe you were going to
second guess yourself in Game seven and you didn't.
Speaker 13 (08:24):
Probably, well, the easiest one is hitting for Miguel Ross.
He's a defensive guy. I inserted him in Game six
to add some infusion and energy into our club.
Speaker 14 (08:38):
And yeah, that's probably the one.
Speaker 13 (08:40):
But you know, looking at the bench, it's tough to
pinch hit and anyone can say and you were probably
second guessing me saying you should hit for him, and
because the numbers say that there's other guys that can
hit home runs in this but it's hard to come
off the bench. And I trusted my players, and you know,
he made me look good and he deserved that moment.
And in the postseason, what I have learned Dan is
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you know, it's not about the numbers. You got to
trust your players. And my job is to know the players.
That's my job. Ultimately, that's my job. It's not to
know statistics. It's about to know the heartbeat of the player.
And I do believe that you know, to win eleven
or this year thirteen games in October. You've got to
trust your players, to know your players, and that's what
we did.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But so you're saying gut feeling still has a place
in the game. It feels like we're so attached to analytics.
How much of what you did in Game seven was
gut as opposed to analytics.
Speaker 14 (09:35):
It's all got.
Speaker 13 (09:36):
I think that if you look back at twenty twenty
four in the postseason, it's the eye test, it's gut.
But people, if you look at twenty twenty, it's eye tests,
it's got. People can't get off the analytics for some reason.
So these are people that are just stuck in their
ways and you're never going to change them. But if
people that really want to walk, that really watch the
game and know the game, then they can see that
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analytics had nothing. It's about, you know, coaches trusting their
players and players stepping up in big moments.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
When you saw the collision in left center with Pios
and key K, what.
Speaker 13 (10:12):
I was a bear's r answer and I was unbelievable. You know,
they both went after it. Kek was trying to make
his Willie Mays play. Pahes was just inserted and just
made a next level, big moment play. And it's funny
because Key K laid down there for dead, and Pies
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asked me if he was okay, and he says, forget that.
Speaker 14 (10:36):
Do you have the ball?
Speaker 13 (10:38):
And he said, yes, I do have the ball, and
he goes, he got up and ran into the dugout.
Speaker 14 (10:42):
So it was it was but again.
Speaker 13 (10:44):
And it's like Miguel Ross coming out of Game seven
because he just expended all energy. It's like, that's just
what fans lived for, and that's what our players gave
both teams.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
The play at the plate, how close that was? Are
you ready then to ask for replay?
Speaker 14 (11:02):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (11:02):
That was like I was asking for replay right from
the get go. Or if they would have called it,
say for sure. And I was with Will Smith last
night and he goes, I honestly did not realize that
I took my foot off the plate to then have
the wherewithal to put it down. And that's the thing,
is that, but even the play for me to take it,
to lose momentum and then to regain to make a
(11:24):
good throw for Will to field it get his foot
back down. I mean, oh my god, it's a Heartache series.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Talking to Dave Roberts, Dodger manager, Yamamoto reminded me of Pedro.
Remind me of Pedro Martinez. Are they similar build, similar
size and it gets.
Speaker 13 (11:44):
Very similar build, very similar size, you know obviously Pedro,
you know, sort of a similar mix if you say
the split is Pedro's changeup and just same mindset. You
know Patro on game days, I've never seen. He's an
assassin and Yamamoto is an assassin. What he did is
(12:09):
stuff like Pedro asked Sandy Kofasque asked, obviously what.
Speaker 14 (12:13):
Mad bummed in I did.
Speaker 13 (12:15):
And I don't know if it was twenty twelve or
twenty fourteen, one of those Giants years. But yeah, I
mean this is the guy that, yeah, not physical, but
his mind Dan is just pretty spectacular.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But if you would have said, hey, beginning of the series,
a Japanese born player is going to win MVP.
Speaker 14 (12:33):
Joe Hey all day, yeah, all day.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
But what did you learn about him in this world
series or in the playoffs that maybe you didn't know?
Speaker 13 (12:43):
Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, not the World series, the playoffs.
So I actually I knew that he's a killer.
Speaker 14 (12:49):
I knew it. This guy, and he.
Speaker 13 (12:51):
Showed that, you know, this year, having just a tremendous
years being a stop perforce, pitching huge and big games,
going come fleet game. Doing what he did in Milwaukee
was incredible, complete games, one one run. I think the
first yeah, gives up a solo homer, a leadoff homer,
then goes nine innings shut after that, then the next game,
(13:15):
complete game, and then in game.
Speaker 14 (13:19):
Three, eighteen innings, I think he was like thirteenth inning,
He's like, I'm ready to go down there.
Speaker 13 (13:26):
I'm not going to let a position player pitch in
the game in a World Series game, and this is
a one day off, and so that showed me a lot.
Speaker 14 (13:34):
Freddy walks it off.
Speaker 13 (13:35):
And then so yesterday or Game seven obviously was no surprise,
but to go three innings was incredible.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
But Otani and your you say him throughout the season,
ramping him up. Was he coming in in game seven
or he started get yeah?
Speaker 13 (13:51):
No, no, because he started game seven okay. And then
so once he was done, he gave us three innings
and then I was like, you know what, I think
he just wasn't a sharp Get him off the pitching,
lock in on the hitting, and then we had some
RMS behind him.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, I thought the way you ramped him up the
entire season was interesting. You know, when you have that
kind of talent, but you know, he's got two innings
or he's got three, like you, you got to be
careful that you don't get greedy in a situation. I
guess like you do.
Speaker 14 (14:20):
And it was it's hard not to be greedy.
Speaker 13 (14:22):
But we went one inning, we remain steadfast one and
he won in two innings, two innings, three innings, and
then you know at the end, that was the first
time because all year he had seven, eight, nine, ten
days of rest. So Game seven was the first time
he ever went on three days rest. So that's why
you know, this guy's coming off to Tommy John's he is,
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he's our team MVP, and so he's two players and
one so we couldn't get greed with him. So three
days it wasn't terribly sharp. He gave us three innings.
That was that was plenty.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Clayton Kershaw is joining us tomorrow. Nice, What should I
bring up to him?
Speaker 14 (15:03):
Oh my gosh, you know, I think.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Was that going in in Game seven he was it.
Speaker 13 (15:11):
Was either going to be the next hitter or certainly
if they tied it up, If Kirk tied it up
right there, Kirk Clayton was going to take.
Speaker 14 (15:19):
The next hitting.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
How nervous were you when he was on the mound
when he got that.
Speaker 13 (15:24):
I was nervous in that game Game three, Game three.
I bring him in in a basis loaded situation, and
it goes back to again, it goes back to trust
your players. Clayton and I have been through so much
in my ten years with him, eighteen years obviously in
his career, and we've had some loads, certainly together, and
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we had some highs. But again, I'm gonna if it's
going to go down, I'm gonna I'm gonna bet on
playing Kershaw. And I've proved that time and time again.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
How was the celebration?
Speaker 14 (15:55):
Oh, so last year was insane.
Speaker 13 (15:58):
We didn't get it in twenty twenty, so it sort
of kind of butted up together in twenty four. But
last yesterday's parade or two days Agost parade was It
was the best. The bet they they did. They one
up themselves, more people, a longer parade route, players were
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just over Jordan. It was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Damn you getting used to this.
Speaker 13 (16:24):
I would say, I it's it's I enjoy it. I
wouldn't say, get used to it. We already talked about
the players already talked about a three p I talked
about a three peat. So I'm not making any guarantees,
but I already cleared it with pat Riley on the
three P term.
Speaker 14 (16:39):
So uh, we're excited. I just think with us, you
got to find some carrot.
Speaker 13 (16:44):
You know, it's like we started out in South Korean
twenty four, finished in the Bronx, started out in Tokyo,
finished in Canada, and so we've had the longest season,
the shortest offseason of anyone, travel the most mile. So
you've got to have have some carrot to keep our
guys focused and motivated.
Speaker 14 (17:03):
So the three pet is it for us?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah? I mean you should. You want to win, you
expect to win.
Speaker 13 (17:09):
That's right, that's absolutely right. Congrats, congrats, Thank you, Dan,
I appreciate you man.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
All right, enjoy your off season.
Speaker 14 (17:18):
All right, take care and tell Clayton I said hello tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
All righty, that's Dave Roberts did it again. I remember
that was when he guaranteed was at twenty twenty four,
and I think he was like, I'm not going to
do that again. You know they're gonna hold me accountable.
But he's right about a carrot. You know, when you win, now,
what do you do? You know, the motivation? How do
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we get you to go all in again? Hey, we're
going to be a three peep absolutely, and pat Riley
will take a piece of that. Dave Roberts, he's won
four World Series so three with the Dodgers. Then he
of course one one is a player with the Red
Sox sor right when we come back. Phil Jackson, he's
got a book out and he collaborated with Sam Smith.
(18:04):
It's called Masters of the Game, a conversational history of
the NBA in seventy.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Five legendary players.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
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Bulls came back from twenty four down beat the seventy
six ers, the thunder still undefeated. They beat the Clippers
one twenty six, one oh seven, and that's the best
start by a defending champ since the twenty fifteen. Twenty
sixteen Warriors opened the season with twenty four consecutive wins.
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Sam Smith Phil Jackson co authors of Masters of the Game,
a conversational history of the NBA, in its seventy five
legendary players. Sam of course covers the Bulls. He's done
so since nineteen eighty seven. He gave us the Jordan rules,
and of course Phil Jackson eleven time NBA champ, and
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they join us. Now, Phil, you know you have all
of these different players, all these different chapters where you
and Sam are just talking back and forth about them,
giving your thoughts in a conversational tone. Give me the
player that you had the most fun talking about in
this book.
Speaker 16 (19:57):
Well, I think we could have gone on forever about
but I would say some of the guys that I
didn't coach, So the guys that you know, Hamichech and
players that you know, competed against and had admiration for.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Sam, give me the player in the book that more
people should know about.
Speaker 17 (20:23):
You know, I think one who gets overlooked so much
is Rick Barry. You know, people know Rick Barry. I
don't think they appreciate how great Rick Rick Barry, you know,
in my view, could have been. You know, Steph Curry
with his shooting ability. He was such an all around
versatile player who for various reasons, was so universally disliked.
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But you know, one of the interesting things. Phil went
on a lot of State Department tours back then, and
he was on one with Rick, and I remember one
Phil was telling we were talking about one with Pete
Maravich where and I know the history books don't reflect
this actually, but Pete basically opened China before Richard Nixon.
Because I think on some of the State Department tours,
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you know Pete stribbling and passing and playing, you know,
so excited some of the communities in China and Phil
what we were talking about and that was another I
know they know Pete Maravich, but you know, they don't
know in this era, And to me that was part
that was really what the book's about, that these guys
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sort of lost to history as much gets But I
believe and I think when you see Jokic now and
you see Donkitch, these guys could have played in any
ear including this era, and I don't think that is appreciated,
And that was that was a big part of my
interest in the book.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
It feels like the NBA started when Magic and Larry
showed up, So you had players in the sixties, certainly
in the seventies. They missed out on the TV era.
And I think Kareem the better years of his career
he missed out or we missed out. But what do
you remember about Kareem?
Speaker 16 (22:04):
Yeah, this is a guy who had a bonnie that
could survive playing in this game for twenty some years.
Not too many guys can even shoot the step hook
as a jump hook or two foot takeoff, and Kareem
was able to perfect this shot. He was able to
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play with a certain amount of grace. His defense was
always criticized, and his rebounding perhaps as a shortcoming, but
his scoring was never He was a great scorer, and
he was a guy that held himself together quite well
off the court as well as on.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
We're talking to Sam Smith and Phil Jackson. The book
is Masters of the Game, a conversational history of the
NBA the seventy five legendary players. So was there somebody
that you wanted to include that you didn't.
Speaker 17 (23:05):
We used the NBA's top seventy five and you know,
no offense. But I thought they were too many, but
it was seventy five years. They had to go in
seventy five, you know, sort of the controversial if it
would be named, was Dwight Howard. But he's a Hall
of Famer. You know, people look at it as a
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negative when you say, well, he wasn't deserving it being
the Hall of Fame. You know, a top seventy five,
and I thought some of the seventy five, you know,
Damian Lillard no offense. I didn't think he was the
top seventy five player. I think there was some recent,
you know, recency bias in the list, but they had
to get the seventy five. I think it was overall
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a pretty good list. You know I ended up being
on the panel. I know Phil doesn't like to select
ranked people, and we didn't rank people in this and
I think that's another thing that's different. You know, it's
not the debate who's number one, who's number two. You know,
it's a look at the history of it. So I
think it's a fairly good list overall.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Phil.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Over the years, it feels like your relationship with Scottie
Pippen has been complicated.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Can you expound upon that.
Speaker 16 (24:16):
Well, I was assistant coach when Scotty came into the game,
and I played with him and against him one on
one and tried to help his game out a little bit.
And I was big in promoting Scotty because you know,
we had Scotty coming off the bench and I had
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to sub in as a coach for Doug Collins when
he got thrown out of a game, and that was
like the immediate thing I did. I put Scotty in
the game and up the pressure defense because this is
one of the best defensive players ever to play the game.
So I had a lot of admiration for him and
had a lot of contact with him. He was the
(25:01):
on court guy that I alerted all the time when
defensive strategies would come, double teams, traps, et cetera, whistle,
Hey Scottie, it's time whatever. So yeah, it was shocking
to hear the comments that he made, but he had
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a situation that was coming off the bench, not being
able to play the last few seconds of the basketball game.
That was critical and it made a big change in
his life. Michael called the next day from baseball and said,
I don't know Scotty'll ever be able to live this down.
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And I think it's been a hard thing to live down,
you know, refusing to go on the ballgame because things
didn't go your way.
Speaker 17 (25:50):
I wanted to add something briefly with that. I thought
it was really poignant. You know, Phil's kept a good
relationship with Michael. I've seen him occasionally on chat as
much as he and Phil might and when some of
those things came out, we talked about this in the
book that Philip asked Michael about that, and Michael really
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expressed regret. I thought it was really poignant that Michael
told Phil that he feels terrible about losing the relationship
with Scottie. You know, a twenty twenty five year relationship
that was closer than a lot of people thought. And
so you know, it struck me as really poignant that
Michael felt a loss about this.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Phil The Dennis Rodman relationship certainly different, but it almost
felt like you had these big personalities and you gave
everybody almost their own longitude and latitude.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Is that fair to say?
Speaker 16 (26:46):
We had a team that was without a power forward
when Michael came back to play after his baseball stip,
And yeah, we put on a power forwards that it
could be or would be capable of filling that role.
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And we came up with Dennis Robin as the only
one that really fit the bill. We traded will Purdue
for him and it wasn't a big money thing. And
after meeting Dennis and knowing who he was, I addressed
the team as we're all adults. There's got to be
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exception for some players. This guy's not going to come
to the games on time. He doesn't shoot, he doesn't
go out and shoot around. So he's asked me if
he can come a half hour late, so he'll be fine.
We'll find him, like the NBA wants to find players
for not being there an hour and a half before
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the game and at the end of the year he'll
pay the fine of whatever it was, two five hundred
dollars or whatever. But these are exceptions that we're going
to have to live with this guy, and I think
his talent overways. What's going to happen as we go
together towards winning a championship?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Phil, give me the player you wish you had coached.
Speaker 16 (28:13):
Wow, I think a lot of There are a lot
of players that you look at and say, what a
terrific player this guy is. He's overall, but I think
Latners is like one of the guys I thought never
really got to play the way he was capable of playing.
Speaker 14 (28:31):
In the NBA.
Speaker 16 (28:32):
I would liked to coach guy like that that has talent,
had some leadership, mobility, maybe never blossomed as an NBA player.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Sam, who do you think changed the game more? Michael
Jordan or Steph Curry.
Speaker 17 (28:49):
Michael Jordan partially because I'm still with the Bulls, so
I have to say that that's in my contract. But
the greatest thing, you know, I sometimes say, you know,
this guy shot better than Michael, passed better, read back,
and there's every skill they did bet at Michael. How
could be the greatest player. You know, part of it
is not just you know, Michael changed the world. You know,
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long shorts, men could be bald. You know, bald was good.
Bald was never good before earrings, the shoes, the fashion.
Michael's influence about the world way transcended basketball, and you
know that's part of the equation. So I don't think
anybody could ever rival Michael with the combination.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Of his play guys, good luck with the book. It
was an easy read. It was a fun read, and
I learned a few things about some of those players
that I didn't get a chance to see when I
was growing up. Phil, I think I saw you at
the Cincinnati Gardens when the Knicks came to town against
the Royals. But thanks again, Sam, great to see it, Phil,
thank you as well, and good luck with the book.
Speaker 14 (29:55):
Thanks Ton, Thank you to see it thirty years again.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Thank you Sam, So thirty years if the Bulls win
another championship, because I'd always see Sam when they'd win
a championship. How about Phil, of all the players he
could coach, and he gave me Christian Laytner, and I went, okay,
Christian's going to be happy to hear about that, but
(30:20):
I was like, uh, I almost said, wait a minute,
who yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 10 (30:26):
The whole room on this side we all went in,
what I know, because we expected, you know, Dominique Wilkins
or some player who whatever. Oh that's that's gonna be frustrating.
If you here, Christian Laytner and you hear that.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Almost yeah, but a compliment.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah yeah, Phil said that he wanted to. I never
You could have given me one hundred guesses. You could
have given me a thousand guesses, and I wouldn't have
said Christian Lightner.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Nick and Florida, Good morning, Nick. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (30:58):
Borning Dan six foot one seventy great interview, and I
just finished another great interview from yesterday on YouTube.
Speaker 14 (31:10):
The Reggie.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
I mean, he's always he's always great. It's reg But
that's what I wanted to call about because I just
got to give him so much credit and I don't
want to take him for granted, for an All Star,
a Hall of Famer, a guy like him to be
as vulnerable as he is over the years on the
(31:33):
show and in other interviews. Of course he's telling doakes.
He's a great time. But I don't know any other
Hall of Famer, it's tough to think about, especially in hoops.
That also just lets it out and gives you like
he's gonna talk about Michael Jordan trash talk moments, but
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also tell you I just had to believe I was
the best player, even though I knew I was.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, I'm appreciative of reg but I've known Reggie going
back to when he was a player, so it's probably
been thirty years that I've known him. And to have
him be comfortable enough to not treat this as an
interview but a conversation. And that's the key with any interview.
If you can get them to forget that there's a
(32:23):
microphone or there's a TV camera there, that's your goal
and it's very hard to do, but when you get it,
then you get some great things. Masters of the Game,
a conversational history of the NBA in seventy five legendary players.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
That is the book. Well, take a.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Break, last call for phone calls, what we learned, what's
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Speaker 1 (32:45):
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final results of the poll question there seat no counter.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah, we got a few doozies up there, We really do.
It's given me one moment here to dial a few
things in we have up there. If you're a Jets
fan today, how are you feeling about? Thirty seven percent
are excited for the future, but sixty three percent feeling lost.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
If you're not feeling good about this, go back and
listen to Albert Rear last hour of the Monday Morning Quarterback,
because he did present a scenario that sounded promising for
Jets fans.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
See currently the best state for football Indiana or the field.
The field has seventy one percent of that vote. That's
not a bad showing for Indiana. Shout out Indiana.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
And also Kyler Murray heally will finish his career with
another NFL team has eighty seven percent of that vote.
The Cardinals just two point two. Your other option there
was in Major League Baseball that's got eleven percent center
the vote.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Pretty good, Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
An hour ago we talked about Tom Brady. He's he
cloned his family dog and took some blood from the
dog before it passed away, and then I guess they
created a dog in his image based.
Speaker 10 (34:19):
Off the DNA and sample blood sample of the old dog.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yes, rip, okay, so you take the DNA and then
what do you you put it in a peatrie?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
How do I get a dog out of that?
Speaker 10 (34:29):
I'm looking at the website right now and there's not
a clear definition of how.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
It's built the new dog. Okay, but we.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
Have a game for you, Dan, how much to clone
your dog? You're asking for the price five thousand dollars.
I'm going to give you another guess. I'm going to
go to the back row, first seat, and how much
to clone a dog? General twenty five thousand dollars, Fritzy.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
One hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Marvin fifty thousand dollars. I'm going to go ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
Okay, Cloning a dog costs Marvin fifty dollars installments. By
the way, okay, can't just pay the back end. Horse
cloning is eighty five thousand. A lot more cloning going
on there, bigger horse.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Well, yeah, if I got you know, a triple Crown
winner or something.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Oh that would you know?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I can make money off my dog unless it's like
a the Westminster Dog Show.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
So cloning your dog? Pity k that's it. Rich in Wisconsin, Hi.
Speaker 12 (35:33):
Rich, Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. I got
a comment on the dogs and a T shirt idea.
So the dogs, there's a lot of dogs that need
to be adopted. I'm a dog owner myself, adopts. We
don't need to be making more dogs. They're all going
to have their own personality.
Speaker 16 (35:53):
Just adopts.
Speaker 12 (35:54):
Okay, So the T shirt idea, yeah, we're always always
talking about conn that's the king. So do a shirt
that has capital k oh C on it. Pronounce it
however you want getting your content.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Okay, thank you, Thank you Rich. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Adopt adopt a dog, Yes, nothing wrong wrong with getting
a dog like Winnie or Penny.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yes, Todd, and get your pet spade and neutered. Thank
you Todd.
Speaker 10 (36:29):
Yes, PAULI, my brother in law got a dog for
his family and he paid at a high price for
this dog because it was they guaranteed it wouldn't shed.
It was some I don't know what it was, guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Something a doodle. Yeah exactly, Yeah, yes, it was something
a doodle.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 10 (36:45):
This dog sheds like like at the contest and he's
trying to win.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Mike and Cincinnati. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
I agree with you, Dan, adopt dogs like that for
so many. That's a classy example of that too much
money pawning your damn dog. Anyway, your interview with Dave
Roberts was just are you talking about You were talking
about the arm of relaxing the Interviewee, well.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
You did it beautifully. I thought you guys were sitting
on the couch, you know, over your house or something,
just shooting a brief But the story told can you
recount quickly? Because I only I didn't really hear it
real well?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
What the t K said?
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Pie has with that catch?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
He just wanted to know if he caught it. Pie
has wanted to know if he was okay. And he
was like, forget about that, did you catch the ball?
Because he thought if he didn't catch it, they lost.
This day in sports history, Paul.
Speaker 10 (37:40):
Got a couple for you. Let's start with nineteen forty six,
the first glass backboard shattered an NBA game. I know
you know who did it.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
He was a went on to be a TV star.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yes, he was the rifleman, Chuck Connors of the self,
Chuck Connors, the Rifleman.
Speaker 10 (37:55):
The AFL was formed in nineteen fifty nine, and let's
see George Foreman nineteen ninety four, knighted out Michael Moore
in the tenth round of their WBA fight.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
By the way, Chuck Connors didn't dunk when he shattered
the glass.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Are you a bunk? Are you the bunk?
Speaker 14 (38:14):
No?
Speaker 3 (38:14):
No, no, it shattered.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
But he actually during warm ups he hit a shot
that hit the front of the rim and it cracked
the glass backboard because it had been installed incorrectly. But
he didn't do it where he brought down the house
like Darryl Dawkins.
Speaker 10 (38:31):
Yes, pauland this is like stolen valor. I've thought for
decades that Chuck Connors was like this great dunker and
then actor.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Well a great actor. I don't think he was a
great dunker.
Speaker 10 (38:42):
Yeah, Darryl Dawkins should sue somebody.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, So it was, it hit the front of the
rim and then it cracked it because it had been
installed improperly. At least sources close to the closer. Yeah,
Zach in South Ben Hizac.
Speaker 9 (38:59):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Dan?
Speaker 9 (39:00):
Three shooters?
Speaker 12 (39:04):
So two things real quick.
Speaker 9 (39:06):
I want to make a case for the best state
for football being Indiana. I think we have to add
this piece. At the high school level. There's a player
at Knox High School, Miles McLoughlin. He's going for the
national career rushing record to beat Derrick Henry. If they
continue to win here in the next couple of games,
he's probably going to beat it. And he also Dereck
(39:28):
Henry also made a comment here recently. I don't know
if probably wants to check that out real quick. You
can see that. But the second thing is I was
wondering we since we came to the Note Dame Show,
if you had a chance to try one of the
two cigars that I brought you.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yes, I did. I tried the Hoya and it was great.
That's a great cigar, and thank you, Zach. Yeah, this
high school running back, I think he had like six
hundred yards in a game something crazy. But we're not
including high school football. This is just college in the NFL.
Speaker 10 (40:00):
Yes, Paul, Yeah, Miles McLoughlin, Knox High School, Derrick Henry's
record is twelve thousand, one hundred and twenty four yards
in four years a high school.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
But this this kid ran for five hundred or something
yards twelve thousand, twelve thousand, and he's approaching twelve thousand.
I think for his I think he's at twelve thousand
in his NFL career. I think Derrick Henry's at twelve thousand.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Does that sound right? Yeah, he just went over twelve thousand,
I think, yes. Marvin and Derek Hamra went to Alabama
and Nick Sdavis said, Hey, twelve thousand yards, you're still
four string?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Todd?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
What did you learn today? The playoffield Jackson most witches.
He could have had an opportunity to coach Christian Lateness.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
See, you've seen Sam Smith thirty years ago, and we'll
see him in another thirty years.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yes, when the Bulls win another title. Marvin, would you
learn Fresno State football is six and three?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah? But lost to San Diego State? Though, I believe Paulie,
What did you learn?
Speaker 10 (40:52):
Chuck Connors poser?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
What did I learned?
Speaker 5 (40:55):
Todd?
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Did Jets keep building a foundation on top of a foundation?
Not a great way to build a house, though, Clayton
Kershaw tomorrow, J J. Watt tomorrow, and hopefully you for
Fritzie Seaton tomorrow. Paula yours truly, we'll talk to you
tomorrow
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Bulls writer Sam Smith who gave us the Jordan Rules.
And Phil will join us coming up here in a
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(00:25):
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
If you are watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading
the app and poll question for the final hour, the
program is going to be what seedon?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, let me get you caught up here. I'm sort
of workshopping a Tom Brady dog cloning Polk questions. We
of course, however, let me get you caught up. If
you're a Jets fan today, sixty three percent are feeling
lost currently, which is the best state for football. Indiana's
got thirty percent of that vote. The field, however, has
seventy percent. Okay, and then this one Kyler Murray finishes
(01:17):
his career with the Cardinals, another NFL team, or in
baseball eighty seven percent right now, have another NFL team?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Baseball's getting eleven percent of that vote.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
All right, all right, Paul, he's happy with that. Keith
and Charlotte. Hi, Keith, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (01:38):
I've called you last couple of weeks about our last
couple of months about the Panthers, and I was trying
to get in on Friday to offer another pile of
the faith bet for them to beat the Green Bay Packers.
Whether you believe it or not, it's all good. Timing
didn't work out, so I got another bet for you guys.
It's my birthday today and I'm hoping that someone will
take me up on there.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I need.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
I want to see the content on the show for you, Dan.
I am going to take the Panthers to make the playoffs.
Their defense is playing great. Rice is serviceable for Rico
Donald's rolling. So who's got the who's got the field?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Anybody want a piece of Keith? In Charlotte, he's got
the Panthers making the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yes, Marvin, happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
But no, no, they don't make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
No, no, beg Oh believe? Oh you do believe? In Carolina?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Oh wow? Okay, they got a chance. Well, they got
a winning record. What have they got?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Five wins?
Speaker 8 (02:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (02:39):
Five and win?
Speaker 10 (02:40):
But they got some tough games down the stretch. You
get the Buccaneers twice, the Seahawks, the Rams, the Niners.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Well, once again, Keith is asking if anybody wants a
piece of it.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
According to this website that I'm looking at, they have
about a fifty seven chance of making the playoffs. As
I think in he it looks like they have about
a fifty seven percent chance of making the playoffs. No, okay,
so's that bad?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah? I don't think you have any takers here, Keith.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I think people are kind of saying they kind of
think the Panthers are playoff worthy.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
Ish, I guess I'll take that.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Dam Okay, well you're gonna have to. Nobody else is
going to take you up on that. It's a good story. Yuh,
really a good story.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I think you got everybody's attention when you go to
Green Bay and you beat green Bay. But that's I
think a lot of times what happens is we're like,
what's wrong with green Bay? They've had you know, you
lose to Carolina at home and you lose to the Browns.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, so I completely read that wrong. They have a
fifty seven percent chance to not make a playoffs. They
have an eleven percent chance of getting in as a
seven seed. The wild card seeds, they have about like
a somewhere between a four to let's see, a seven
to eleven percent chance of getting a wild card.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Okay, so are you saying you're gonna take Keith up
on the bet?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Now?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It's a unbelievably optimistic take bye bye key.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Okay, yeah, I'll jump in on it.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Since I messed up what I said before, now I
feel like I have to do it, so I'll jump
in on them. All right, So Keith Seaton will take
you up on the offer. I'm saying that they're not
going to win the bet. Loser gets in a cage
with a panther. Any takers now, is that like.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Rico Daldell that you get in the cage with him
or an actual panther?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Which would you rather least like to be attacked by?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Mark? In Saint Cloud, Minnesota. Hi, Mark, welcome back, And.
Speaker 11 (04:44):
I got a couple of things for you. First of all,
you've touched on the Packers. Why is it they start
so slow? It's like a nonchalant attitude with that team.
And I think it's from the coach on down. I mean,
you never see him get that playered up, and it
reflects in the quarterback. And I know people like calm
quarterbacks and cool under fire, but you can't be Joe
Cool all the time.
Speaker 12 (05:03):
Plus, I have a stat.
Speaker 11 (05:04):
Of the day for you if you're willing sure, all right,
just the moment, Dan, let me pull it up here.
And maybe this goes hand in hand with a state
that is not number one in the country for football
Wisconsin the schools that tell the most booze. The Badgers
lead the list with over three million in revenue. This
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(05:26):
is second, followed by Tennessee, LSU, and Minnesota. And that
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the day.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
All right, thank you, Mark.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
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Speaker 2 (05:46):
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Another World Series title. Didn't need to make a proclamation
in spring training, didn't have to do any of that stuff.
Just an easy seven games and there you are winning again.
(06:10):
I guess can you compare the back to back the
different feelings that you had.
Speaker 13 (06:17):
Well, I'm glad your who hum about it. It was
very difficult. Winning a championship is very difficult. Winning two
is even tougher. No, I mean, there's nothing like Game seven,
and a lot of things had happened. Guys stepped up,
and I'm just proud of the guys. There's a lot
of pressure points in that series, in the postseason and
(06:41):
certainly in the World Series. But it certainly wasn't easy.
And yeah, we've done something that hadn't been done in
twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
But you look at pressure and we could see pressure.
It was tangible when you're watching Game seven. But the
pressure to you're supposed to win, expected to win, you know,
the media of the you know, fans. It feels like
the difference in being an underdog in winning, like when
you won with the Red Sox as a player, to
winning when you're the favorite.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
The different kind of pressures are feeling that.
Speaker 14 (07:14):
You have with that, Yeah, you know, I guess, you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 13 (07:21):
I guess The thing about sports is, yeah, everyone's got opinions,
but you know, the David and Goliath narrative, fans, media
put things together that just aren't true, and to be
quite honest, people that have never been in the ring.
And the Blue Jays were a very good team. They
won the ale least, they won more baseball games than
we did. But we're Goliath, and so it was a
(07:45):
great series and we were trying to win the series.
They were trying to win a World Series. I don't
think he was pressure. I think that what happens is
as athletes, as teams, you have expectations and goals for yourself.
Speaker 15 (07:58):
And.
Speaker 13 (08:00):
You know, you don't want more for yourself than I
think than fans do. You want to win, you expect
to win. So I don't think that our pressure or
pressure from the fans or media had any bearing on
the game. We were trying to win for each other
in the city of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Give me the move that maybe you were going to
second guess yourself in Game seven and you didn't.
Speaker 13 (08:24):
Probably, well, the easiest one is hitting for Miguel Ross.
He's a defensive guy. I inserted him in Game six
to add some infusion and energy into our club.
Speaker 14 (08:38):
And yeah, that's probably the one.
Speaker 13 (08:40):
But you know, looking at the bench, it's tough to
pinch hit and anyone can say and you were probably
second guessing me saying you should hit for him, and
because the numbers say that there's other guys that can
hit home runs in this but it's hard to come
off the bench. And I trusted my players, and you know,
he made me look good and he deserved that moment.
And in the postseason, what I have learned Dan is
(09:03):
you know, it's not about the numbers. You got to
trust your players. And my job is to know the players.
That's my job. Ultimately, that's my job. It's not to
know statistics. It's about to know the heartbeat of the player.
And I do believe that you know, to win eleven
or this year thirteen games in October. You've got to
trust your players, to know your players, and that's what
we did.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But so you're saying gut feeling still has a place
in the game. It feels like we're so attached to analytics.
How much of what you did in Game seven was
gut as opposed to analytics.
Speaker 14 (09:35):
It's all got.
Speaker 13 (09:36):
I think that if you look back at twenty twenty
four in the postseason, it's the eye test, it's gut.
But people, if you look at twenty twenty, it's eye tests,
it's got. People can't get off the analytics for some reason.
So these are people that are just stuck in their
ways and you're never going to change them. But if
people that really want to walk, that really watch the
game and know the game, then they can see that
(10:00):
analytics had nothing. It's about, you know, coaches trusting their
players and players stepping up in big moments.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
When you saw the collision in left center with Pios
and key K, what.
Speaker 13 (10:12):
I was a bear's r answer and I was unbelievable. You know,
they both went after it. Kek was trying to make
his Willie Mays play. Pahes was just inserted and just
made a next level, big moment play. And it's funny
because Key K laid down there for dead, and Pies
(10:33):
asked me if he was okay, and he says, forget that.
Speaker 14 (10:36):
Do you have the ball?
Speaker 13 (10:38):
And he said, yes, I do have the ball, and
he goes, he got up and ran into the dugout.
Speaker 14 (10:42):
So it was it was but again.
Speaker 13 (10:44):
And it's like Miguel Ross coming out of Game seven
because he just expended all energy. It's like, that's just
what fans lived for, and that's what our players gave
both teams.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
The play at the plate, how close that was? Are
you ready then to ask for replay?
Speaker 14 (11:02):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (11:02):
That was like I was asking for replay right from
the get go. Or if they would have called it,
say for sure. And I was with Will Smith last
night and he goes, I honestly did not realize that
I took my foot off the plate to then have
the wherewithal to put it down. And that's the thing,
is that, but even the play for me to take it,
to lose momentum and then to regain to make a
(11:24):
good throw for Will to field it get his foot
back down. I mean, oh my god, it's a Heartache series.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Talking to Dave Roberts, Dodger manager, Yamamoto reminded me of Pedro.
Remind me of Pedro Martinez. Are they similar build, similar
size and it gets.
Speaker 13 (11:44):
Very similar build, very similar size, you know obviously Pedro,
you know, sort of a similar mix if you say
the split is Pedro's changeup and just same mindset. You
know Patro on game days, I've never seen. He's an
assassin and Yamamoto is an assassin. What he did is
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stuff like Pedro asked Sandy Kofasque asked, obviously what.
Speaker 14 (12:13):
Mad bummed in I did.
Speaker 13 (12:15):
And I don't know if it was twenty twelve or
twenty fourteen, one of those Giants years. But yeah, I
mean this is the guy that, yeah, not physical, but
his mind Dan is just pretty spectacular.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But if you would have said, hey, beginning of the series,
a Japanese born player is going to win MVP.
Speaker 14 (12:33):
Joe Hey all day, yeah, all day.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
But what did you learn about him in this world
series or in the playoffs that maybe you didn't know?
Speaker 13 (12:43):
Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, not the World series, the playoffs.
So I actually I knew that he's a killer.
Speaker 14 (12:49):
I knew it. This guy, and he.
Speaker 13 (12:51):
Showed that, you know, this year, having just a tremendous
years being a stop perforce, pitching huge and big games,
going come fleet game. Doing what he did in Milwaukee
was incredible, complete games, one one run. I think the
first yeah, gives up a solo homer, a leadoff homer,
then goes nine innings shut after that, then the next game,
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complete game, and then in game.
Speaker 14 (13:19):
Three, eighteen innings, I think he was like thirteenth inning,
He's like, I'm ready to go down there.
Speaker 13 (13:26):
I'm not going to let a position player pitch in
the game in a World Series game, and this is
a one day off, and so that showed me a lot.
Speaker 14 (13:34):
Freddy walks it off.
Speaker 13 (13:35):
And then so yesterday or Game seven obviously was no surprise,
but to go three innings was incredible.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
But Otani and your you say him throughout the season,
ramping him up. Was he coming in in game seven
or he started get yeah?
Speaker 13 (13:51):
No, no, because he started game seven okay. And then
so once he was done, he gave us three innings
and then I was like, you know what, I think
he just wasn't a sharp Get him off the pitching,
lock in on the hitting, and then we had some
RMS behind him.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, I thought the way you ramped him up the
entire season was interesting. You know, when you have that
kind of talent, but you know, he's got two innings
or he's got three, like you, you got to be
careful that you don't get greedy in a situation. I
guess like you do.
Speaker 14 (14:20):
And it was it's hard not to be greedy.
Speaker 13 (14:22):
But we went one inning, we remain steadfast one and
he won in two innings, two innings, three innings, and
then you know at the end, that was the first
time because all year he had seven, eight, nine, ten
days of rest. So Game seven was the first time
he ever went on three days rest. So that's why
you know, this guy's coming off to Tommy John's he is,
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he's our team MVP, and so he's two players and
one so we couldn't get greed with him. So three
days it wasn't terribly sharp. He gave us three innings.
That was that was plenty.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Clayton Kershaw is joining us tomorrow. Nice, What should I
bring up to him?
Speaker 14 (15:03):
Oh my gosh, you know, I think.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Was that going in in Game seven he was it.
Speaker 13 (15:11):
Was either going to be the next hitter or certainly
if they tied it up, If Kirk tied it up
right there, Kirk Clayton was going to take.
Speaker 14 (15:19):
The next hitting.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
How nervous were you when he was on the mound
when he got that.
Speaker 13 (15:24):
I was nervous in that game Game three, Game three.
I bring him in in a basis loaded situation, and
it goes back to again, it goes back to trust
your players. Clayton and I have been through so much
in my ten years with him, eighteen years obviously in
his career, and we've had some loads, certainly together, and
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we had some highs. But again, I'm gonna if it's
going to go down, I'm gonna I'm gonna bet on
playing Kershaw. And I've proved that time and time again.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
How was the celebration?
Speaker 14 (15:55):
Oh, so last year was insane.
Speaker 13 (15:58):
We didn't get it in twenty twenty, so it sort
of kind of butted up together in twenty four. But
last yesterday's parade or two days Agost parade was It
was the best. The bet they they did. They one
up themselves, more people, a longer parade route, players were
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just over Jordan. It was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Damn you getting used to this.
Speaker 13 (16:24):
I would say, I it's it's I enjoy it. I
wouldn't say, get used to it. We already talked about
the players already talked about a three p I talked
about a three peat. So I'm not making any guarantees,
but I already cleared it with pat Riley on the
three P term.
Speaker 14 (16:39):
So uh, we're excited. I just think with us, you
got to find some carrot.
Speaker 13 (16:44):
You know, it's like we started out in South Korean
twenty four, finished in the Bronx, started out in Tokyo,
finished in Canada, and so we've had the longest season,
the shortest offseason of anyone, travel the most mile. So
you've got to have have some carrot to keep our
guys focused and motivated.
Speaker 14 (17:03):
So the three pet is it for us?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah? I mean you should. You want to win, you
expect to win.
Speaker 13 (17:09):
That's right, that's absolutely right. Congrats, congrats, Thank you, Dan,
I appreciate you man.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
All right, enjoy your off season.
Speaker 14 (17:18):
All right, take care and tell Clayton I said hello tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
All righty, that's Dave Roberts did it again. I remember
that was when he guaranteed was at twenty twenty four,
and I think he was like, I'm not going to
do that again. You know they're gonna hold me accountable.
But he's right about a carrot. You know, when you win, now,
what do you do? You know, the motivation? How do
(17:41):
we get you to go all in again? Hey, we're
going to be a three peep absolutely, and pat Riley
will take a piece of that. Dave Roberts, he's won
four World Series so three with the Dodgers. Then he
of course one one is a player with the Red
Sox sor right when we come back. Phil Jackson, he's
got a book out and he collaborated with Sam Smith.
(18:04):
It's called Masters of the Game, a conversational history of
the NBA in seventy.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Five legendary players.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
We'll talk to him and Sam Smith coming up next
here on The Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (18:58):
Bulls came back from twenty four down beat the seventy
six ers, the thunder still undefeated. They beat the Clippers
one twenty six, one oh seven, and that's the best
start by a defending champ since the twenty fifteen. Twenty
sixteen Warriors opened the season with twenty four consecutive wins.
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Sam Smith Phil Jackson co authors of Masters of the Game,
a conversational history of the NBA, in its seventy five
legendary players. Sam of course covers the Bulls. He's done
so since nineteen eighty seven. He gave us the Jordan rules,
and of course Phil Jackson eleven time NBA champ, and
(19:39):
they join us. Now, Phil, you know you have all
of these different players, all these different chapters where you
and Sam are just talking back and forth about them,
giving your thoughts in a conversational tone. Give me the
player that you had the most fun talking about in
this book.
Speaker 16 (19:57):
Well, I think we could have gone on forever about
but I would say some of the guys that I
didn't coach, So the guys that you know, Hamichech and
players that you know, competed against and had admiration for.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Sam, give me the player in the book that more
people should know about.
Speaker 17 (20:23):
You know, I think one who gets overlooked so much
is Rick Barry. You know, people know Rick Barry. I
don't think they appreciate how great Rick Rick Barry, you know,
in my view, could have been. You know, Steph Curry
with his shooting ability. He was such an all around
versatile player who for various reasons, was so universally disliked.
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But you know, one of the interesting things. Phil went
on a lot of State Department tours back then, and
he was on one with Rick, and I remember one
Phil was telling we were talking about one with Pete
Maravich where and I know the history books don't reflect
this actually, but Pete basically opened China before Richard Nixon.
Because I think on some of the State Department tours,
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you know Pete stribbling and passing and playing, you know,
so excited some of the communities in China and Phil
what we were talking about and that was another I
know they know Pete Maravich, but you know, they don't
know in this era, And to me that was part
that was really what the book's about, that these guys
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sort of lost to history as much gets But I
believe and I think when you see Jokic now and
you see Donkitch, these guys could have played in any
ear including this era, and I don't think that is appreciated,
And that was that was a big part of my
interest in the book.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
It feels like the NBA started when Magic and Larry
showed up, So you had players in the sixties, certainly
in the seventies. They missed out on the TV era.
And I think Kareem the better years of his career
he missed out or we missed out. But what do
you remember about Kareem?
Speaker 16 (22:04):
Yeah, this is a guy who had a bonnie that
could survive playing in this game for twenty some years.
Not too many guys can even shoot the step hook
as a jump hook or two foot takeoff, and Kareem
was able to perfect this shot. He was able to
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play with a certain amount of grace. His defense was
always criticized, and his rebounding perhaps as a shortcoming, but
his scoring was never He was a great scorer, and
he was a guy that held himself together quite well
off the court as well as on.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
We're talking to Sam Smith and Phil Jackson. The book
is Masters of the Game, a conversational history of the
NBA the seventy five legendary players. So was there somebody
that you wanted to include that you didn't.
Speaker 17 (23:05):
We used the NBA's top seventy five and you know,
no offense. But I thought they were too many, but
it was seventy five years. They had to go in
seventy five, you know, sort of the controversial if it
would be named, was Dwight Howard. But he's a Hall
of Famer. You know, people look at it as a
(23:27):
negative when you say, well, he wasn't deserving it being
the Hall of Fame. You know, a top seventy five,
and I thought some of the seventy five, you know,
Damian Lillard no offense. I didn't think he was the
top seventy five player. I think there was some recent,
you know, recency bias in the list, but they had
to get the seventy five. I think it was overall
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a pretty good list. You know I ended up being
on the panel. I know Phil doesn't like to select
ranked people, and we didn't rank people in this and
I think that's another thing that's different. You know, it's
not the debate who's number one, who's number two. You know,
it's a look at the history of it. So I
think it's a fairly good list overall.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Phil.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Over the years, it feels like your relationship with Scottie
Pippen has been complicated.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Can you expound upon that.
Speaker 16 (24:16):
Well, I was assistant coach when Scotty came into the game,
and I played with him and against him one on
one and tried to help his game out a little bit.
And I was big in promoting Scotty because you know,
we had Scotty coming off the bench and I had
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to sub in as a coach for Doug Collins when
he got thrown out of a game, and that was
like the immediate thing I did. I put Scotty in
the game and up the pressure defense because this is
one of the best defensive players ever to play the game.
So I had a lot of admiration for him and
had a lot of contact with him. He was the
(25:01):
on court guy that I alerted all the time when
defensive strategies would come, double teams, traps, et cetera, whistle,
Hey Scottie, it's time whatever. So yeah, it was shocking
to hear the comments that he made, but he had
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a situation that was coming off the bench, not being
able to play the last few seconds of the basketball game.
That was critical and it made a big change in
his life. Michael called the next day from baseball and said,
I don't know Scotty'll ever be able to live this down.
(25:42):
And I think it's been a hard thing to live down,
you know, refusing to go on the ballgame because things
didn't go your way.
Speaker 17 (25:50):
I wanted to add something briefly with that. I thought
it was really poignant. You know, Phil's kept a good
relationship with Michael. I've seen him occasionally on chat as
much as he and Phil might and when some of
those things came out, we talked about this in the
book that Philip asked Michael about that, and Michael really
(26:11):
expressed regret. I thought it was really poignant that Michael
told Phil that he feels terrible about losing the relationship
with Scottie. You know, a twenty twenty five year relationship
that was closer than a lot of people thought. And
so you know, it struck me as really poignant that
Michael felt a loss about this.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Phil The Dennis Rodman relationship certainly different, but it almost
felt like you had these big personalities and you gave
everybody almost their own longitude and latitude.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Is that fair to say?
Speaker 16 (26:46):
We had a team that was without a power forward
when Michael came back to play after his baseball stip,
And yeah, we put on a power forwards that it
could be or would be capable of filling that role.
(27:08):
And we came up with Dennis Robin as the only
one that really fit the bill. We traded will Purdue
for him and it wasn't a big money thing. And
after meeting Dennis and knowing who he was, I addressed
the team as we're all adults. There's got to be
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exception for some players. This guy's not going to come
to the games on time. He doesn't shoot, he doesn't
go out and shoot around. So he's asked me if
he can come a half hour late, so he'll be fine.
We'll find him, like the NBA wants to find players
for not being there an hour and a half before
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the game and at the end of the year he'll
pay the fine of whatever it was, two five hundred
dollars or whatever. But these are exceptions that we're going
to have to live with this guy, and I think
his talent overways. What's going to happen as we go
together towards winning a championship?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Phil, give me the player you wish you had coached.
Speaker 16 (28:13):
Wow, I think a lot of There are a lot
of players that you look at and say, what a
terrific player this guy is. He's overall, but I think
Latners is like one of the guys I thought never
really got to play the way he was capable of playing.
Speaker 14 (28:31):
In the NBA.
Speaker 16 (28:32):
I would liked to coach guy like that that has talent,
had some leadership, mobility, maybe never blossomed as an NBA player.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Sam, who do you think changed the game more? Michael
Jordan or Steph Curry.
Speaker 17 (28:49):
Michael Jordan partially because I'm still with the Bulls, so
I have to say that that's in my contract. But
the greatest thing, you know, I sometimes say, you know,
this guy shot better than Michael, passed better, read back,
and there's every skill they did bet at Michael. How
could be the greatest player. You know, part of it
is not just you know, Michael changed the world. You know,
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long shorts, men could be bald. You know, bald was good.
Bald was never good before earrings, the shoes, the fashion.
Michael's influence about the world way transcended basketball, and you
know that's part of the equation. So I don't think
anybody could ever rival Michael with the combination.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Of his play guys, good luck with the book. It
was an easy read. It was a fun read, and
I learned a few things about some of those players
that I didn't get a chance to see when I
was growing up. Phil, I think I saw you at
the Cincinnati Gardens when the Knicks came to town against
the Royals. But thanks again, Sam, great to see it, Phil,
thank you as well, and good luck with the book.
Speaker 14 (29:55):
Thanks Ton, Thank you to see it thirty years again.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Thank you Sam, So thirty years if the Bulls win
another championship, because I'd always see Sam when they'd win
a championship. How about Phil, of all the players he
could coach, and he gave me Christian Laytner, and I went, okay,
Christian's going to be happy to hear about that, but
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I was like, uh, I almost said, wait a minute,
who yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 10 (30:26):
The whole room on this side we all went in,
what I know, because we expected, you know, Dominique Wilkins
or some player who whatever. Oh that's that's gonna be frustrating.
If you here, Christian Laytner and you hear that.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Almost yeah, but a compliment.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah yeah, Phil said that he wanted to. I never
You could have given me one hundred guesses. You could
have given me a thousand guesses, and I wouldn't have
said Christian Lightner.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Nick and Florida, Good morning, Nick. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (30:58):
Borning Dan six foot one seventy great interview, and I
just finished another great interview from yesterday on YouTube.
Speaker 14 (31:10):
The Reggie.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
I mean, he's always he's always great. It's reg But
that's what I wanted to call about because I just
got to give him so much credit and I don't
want to take him for granted, for an All Star,
a Hall of Famer, a guy like him to be
as vulnerable as he is over the years on the
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show and in other interviews. Of course he's telling doakes.
He's a great time. But I don't know any other
Hall of Famer, it's tough to think about, especially in hoops.
That also just lets it out and gives you like
he's gonna talk about Michael Jordan trash talk moments, but
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also tell you I just had to believe I was
the best player, even though I knew I was.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, I'm appreciative of reg but I've known Reggie going
back to when he was a player, so it's probably
been thirty years that I've known him. And to have
him be comfortable enough to not treat this as an
interview but a conversation. And that's the key with any interview.
If you can get them to forget that there's a
(32:23):
microphone or there's a TV camera there, that's your goal
and it's very hard to do, but when you get it,
then you get some great things. Masters of the Game,
a conversational history of the NBA in seventy five legendary players.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
That is the book. Well, take a.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Break, last call for phone calls, what we learned, what's
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final results of the poll question there seat no counter.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah, we got a few doozies up there, We really do.
It's given me one moment here to dial a few
things in we have up there. If you're a Jets
fan today, how are you feeling about? Thirty seven percent
are excited for the future, but sixty three percent feeling lost.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
If you're not feeling good about this, go back and
listen to Albert Rear last hour of the Monday Morning Quarterback,
because he did present a scenario that sounded promising for
Jets fans.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
See currently the best state for football Indiana or the field.
The field has seventy one percent of that vote. That's
not a bad showing for Indiana. Shout out Indiana.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
And also Kyler Murray heally will finish his career with
another NFL team has eighty seven percent of that vote.
The Cardinals just two point two. Your other option there
was in Major League Baseball that's got eleven percent center
the vote.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Pretty good, Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
An hour ago we talked about Tom Brady. He's he
cloned his family dog and took some blood from the
dog before it passed away, and then I guess they
created a dog in his image based.
Speaker 10 (34:19):
Off the DNA and sample blood sample of the old dog.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yes, rip, okay, so you take the DNA and then
what do you you put it in a peatrie?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
How do I get a dog out of that?
Speaker 10 (34:29):
I'm looking at the website right now and there's not
a clear definition of how.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
It's built the new dog. Okay, but we.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
Have a game for you, Dan, how much to clone
your dog? You're asking for the price five thousand dollars.
I'm going to give you another guess. I'm going to
go to the back row, first seat, and how much
to clone a dog? General twenty five thousand dollars, Fritzy.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
One hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Marvin fifty thousand dollars. I'm going to go ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
Okay, Cloning a dog costs Marvin fifty dollars installments. By
the way, okay, can't just pay the back end. Horse
cloning is eighty five thousand. A lot more cloning going
on there, bigger horse.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Well, yeah, if I got you know, a triple Crown
winner or something.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Oh that would you know?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I can make money off my dog unless it's like
a the Westminster Dog Show.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
So cloning your dog? Pity k that's it. Rich in Wisconsin, Hi.
Speaker 12 (35:33):
Rich, Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. I got
a comment on the dogs and a T shirt idea.
So the dogs, there's a lot of dogs that need
to be adopted. I'm a dog owner myself, adopts. We
don't need to be making more dogs. They're all going
to have their own personality.
Speaker 16 (35:53):
Just adopts.
Speaker 12 (35:54):
Okay, So the T shirt idea, yeah, we're always always
talking about conn that's the king. So do a shirt
that has capital k oh C on it. Pronounce it
however you want getting your content.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Okay, thank you, Thank you Rich. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Adopt adopt a dog, Yes, nothing wrong wrong with getting
a dog like Winnie or Penny.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yes, Todd, and get your pet spade and neutered. Thank
you Todd.
Speaker 10 (36:29):
Yes, PAULI, my brother in law got a dog for
his family and he paid at a high price for
this dog because it was they guaranteed it wouldn't shed.
It was some I don't know what it was, guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Something a doodle. Yeah exactly, Yeah, yes, it was something
a doodle.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 10 (36:45):
This dog sheds like like at the contest and he's
trying to win.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Mike and Cincinnati. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
I agree with you, Dan, adopt dogs like that for
so many. That's a classy example of that too much
money pawning your damn dog. Anyway, your interview with Dave
Roberts was just are you talking about You were talking
about the arm of relaxing the Interviewee, well.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
You did it beautifully. I thought you guys were sitting
on the couch, you know, over your house or something,
just shooting a brief But the story told can you
recount quickly? Because I only I didn't really hear it
real well?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
What the t K said?
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Pie has with that catch?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
He just wanted to know if he caught it. Pie
has wanted to know if he was okay. And he
was like, forget about that, did you catch the ball?
Because he thought if he didn't catch it, they lost.
This day in sports history, Paul.
Speaker 10 (37:40):
Got a couple for you. Let's start with nineteen forty six,
the first glass backboard shattered an NBA game. I know
you know who did it.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
He was a went on to be a TV star.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yes, he was the rifleman, Chuck Connors of the self,
Chuck Connors, the Rifleman.
Speaker 10 (37:55):
The AFL was formed in nineteen fifty nine, and let's
see George Foreman nineteen ninety four, knighted out Michael Moore
in the tenth round of their WBA fight.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
By the way, Chuck Connors didn't dunk when he shattered
the glass.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Are you a bunk? Are you the bunk?
Speaker 14 (38:14):
No?
Speaker 3 (38:14):
No, no, it shattered.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
But he actually during warm ups he hit a shot
that hit the front of the rim and it cracked
the glass backboard because it had been installed incorrectly. But
he didn't do it where he brought down the house
like Darryl Dawkins.
Speaker 10 (38:31):
Yes, pauland this is like stolen valor. I've thought for
decades that Chuck Connors was like this great dunker and
then actor.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Well a great actor. I don't think he was a
great dunker.
Speaker 10 (38:42):
Yeah, Darryl Dawkins should sue somebody.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, So it was, it hit the front of the
rim and then it cracked it because it had been
installed improperly. At least sources close to the closer. Yeah,
Zach in South Ben Hizac.
Speaker 9 (38:59):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Dan?
Speaker 9 (39:00):
Three shooters?
Speaker 12 (39:04):
So two things real quick.
Speaker 9 (39:06):
I want to make a case for the best state
for football being Indiana. I think we have to add
this piece. At the high school level. There's a player
at Knox High School, Miles McLoughlin. He's going for the
national career rushing record to beat Derrick Henry. If they
continue to win here in the next couple of games,
he's probably going to beat it. And he also Dereck
(39:28):
Henry also made a comment here recently. I don't know
if probably wants to check that out real quick. You
can see that. But the second thing is I was
wondering we since we came to the Note Dame Show,
if you had a chance to try one of the
two cigars that I brought you.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yes, I did. I tried the Hoya and it was great.
That's a great cigar, and thank you, Zach. Yeah, this
high school running back, I think he had like six
hundred yards in a game something crazy. But we're not
including high school football. This is just college in the NFL.
Speaker 10 (40:00):
Yes, Paul, Yeah, Miles McLoughlin, Knox High School, Derrick Henry's
record is twelve thousand, one hundred and twenty four yards
in four years a high school.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
But this this kid ran for five hundred or something
yards twelve thousand, twelve thousand, and he's approaching twelve thousand.
I think for his I think he's at twelve thousand
in his NFL career. I think Derrick Henry's at twelve thousand.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Does that sound right? Yeah, he just went over twelve thousand,
I think, yes. Marvin and Derek Hamra went to Alabama
and Nick Sdavis said, Hey, twelve thousand yards, you're still
four string?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Todd?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
What did you learn today? The playoffield Jackson most witches.
He could have had an opportunity to coach Christian Lateness.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
See, you've seen Sam Smith thirty years ago, and we'll
see him in another thirty years.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yes, when the Bulls win another title. Marvin, would you
learn Fresno State football is six and three?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah? But lost to San Diego State? Though, I believe Paulie,
What did you learn?
Speaker 10 (40:52):
Chuck Connors poser?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
What did I learned?
Speaker 5 (40:55):
Todd?
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Did Jets keep building a foundation on top of a foundation?
Not a great way to build a house, though, Clayton
Kershaw tomorrow, J J. Watt tomorrow, and hopefully you for
Fritzie Seaton tomorrow. Paula yours truly, we'll talk to you
tomorrow
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