November 6, 2025 • 43 mins
DP and the Danettes react to Kyler Murray going on IR for the Cardinals. Legendary NFL DE J.J. Watt is very high on the Colts, and he breaks down the injury truth around playing in the NFL. Recently retired 3x Cy Young winner Clayton Kershaw shares what it was like moving into the bullpen this postseason and discusses heading into retirement.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We did it. We made it to a Thursday hour
one Dan and The Dan Edge Dan Patrick Show. Future
Hall of Famers. JJ Watt will join us, as will
Clayton Kershaw, the former Dodger pitcher, will join us a
little bit later on Raiders at the Broncos coming up
tonight and what is it? Ten points? Is that the
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nine and a half points? I think, Todd, Yeah, the
Broncos have to win by at least ten or I'm
wearing a Raiders Owner Davis wig. Right, Yeah, Mark Davis.
We just got that wig in, you know, would you
just try it on just to see if it works?
Just I want to jinx at.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I'll do it for content.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
But then if I'm putting it on, then I'm like
preparing myself for them not to win by double m.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, I just want to make sure it's going to fit.
If not, then I have to get another one.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I was like, you want me to go get that.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, I could have one of the back room guys
get it. I'm happy to put it on briefly, Yeah,
just briefly. That's not how long.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
It's going to take them bring it out, so maybe
I should go get it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, no, no, I'll have them bring it out. If
they're listening to the show, I'm like me, they might
not be all righty. So you have the Raiders. They
are getting nine and a half against the Broncos over
under his forty two and a half. Thursday Night Football,
Cardinals put Kyler Murray on the IR so he's out
at least four more weeks. Okay, I said, I thought
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something was up, and then all of a sudden, Jacoby
Brissett wins. They have their coach go to the press conference,
Jonathan Gannon. He's asked about who's the starting quarterback and
he says that his starting quarterback is Kyler Murray. Very
quickly said that. And now all of a sudden we
find out that maybe that foot is not healthy. Then
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we find out Jacoby Brissett's going to start this next weekend,
and then all of a sudden he gets put on
the injured reserve list with a foot injury, and now
he's going to be out for four more weeks. How
close was he to playing? I know he wasn't suited
up for the Dallas game. Just feels like there's something
going on there. It just doesn't match up that he's
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our quarterback to maybe not this week, to now he's
going to be put on the injured reserve list. Like
what happened after the game. Kyler Murray didn't play and
Jonathan Gannon says, no, Kyler Murray's our starting quarterback. I
understand you don't want to have a quarterback controversy, but
you know what you did. You created a quarterback controversy
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here because Jacoby Brissett is going to start at least
four more games. And do I think he's better for
this team right now? I do. He knows how to
play the position. But the whole I mean, you're spending
a lot of money on Kyler Murray and you owe
him a lot of money next year as well. But
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this is a situation where these teams you go and
give your quarterback his money early. They did that with Kyler,
they did that with Tua. I understand it can be smart.
You can have a Josh Allen situation, maybe Joe Burrows situation, okay,
but these are two quarterbacks that I had questions about
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from the beginning, and now you owe toua fifty four
million dollars you're gonna have a new coach, a new GM.
You're not gonna have Tyreek Hill is two. We're going
to be there next year? Does he have to be
there next year? Feels like the answer is yes, Kyler Murray.
Is he going to be there next year? You're going
to owe him fifty million dollars and he's not going
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to be starting for you. Are you going to move
on from him?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
So?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
These are these are those dilemmas you have when you
start to pay somebody and you pay them a year early.
And I know that it probably ruffles feathers with these
players and their agent, but I would be saying I
want to see more. If I'm giving you fifty million dollars,
you have to and it's just fifty million a year,
I could be giving you a two hundred and fifty million.
(04:01):
I reserve the right to be able to say to you,
I want to see one more year. You may be
bothered by that. I need to see one more year now.
Unless you say, Josh Allen checks all the boxes, we're
gonna you know, he is a franchise, He's a Hall
of Famer, and you say that about Joe Burrow. I
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just don't want to rush. You don't need to rush.
There's nothing wrong with saying one more year, because I
would have given to I would have looked at franchising him,
you know, give him one more year. Even I would
never given him long term contracts. I don't think he's
a long term quarterback, just size health. I wouldn't. It
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doesn't make any sense, Kyler Murray, you have a clause
in his contract that says no video games, you must study.
I know a caddie who caddied for a famous player,
and the player would never practice, but he would tell
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his caddie that he would be practicing. So the caddie
put in a piece of paper into the driver the
cover that goes on the driver, and he would check
whenever they went out to, you know, play in a tournament.
He would lift up the cover on the driver and
the paper would fall out, so he knew that he
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wasn't practicing. So, Kyler Murray, you got to put in
a clause in his contract to say, hey, can you
do less video more studying. That's not somebody I want,
Thank you, sir. And look, I don't know how he
is in the locker room. He doesn't strike me as
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a leader. If you play well, it's amazing how good
your leadership is. But he's not playing well, and now
the foot just got worse, and now he's out for
four more games, four more weeks. Man, this is how
coaches get fired. You or you can keep your job.
(06:09):
But if I'm going into the dolphin situation and I'm
gonna have to hire a coach, and then is that
my quarterback? And are you sold on that, I wouldn't be. Yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
I'm reading the timeline of all this on the Arizona
Central newspaper. They cover, you know, the Cardinals every day.
Three weeks ago, in Week six, Kyler Murray was a
game time decision with his foot injury, and while not playing,
somehow it got worse. Jonathan Gannon, their head coach, talked
about the decision to put him on the IR yesterday
and he said, quote talking with him, talking to other people.
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Obviously a collective decision here. I wonder putting people on
IR is a discussion and it was agreed upon by
both parties. And they don't have to worry about him
in a uniform when Jacoby Prisett's playing for the next
four weeks.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
The fact that he wasn't even in uniform against the
cow Boys. But then he's our starting quarterback, and then
he's not your starting quarterback, and now he's out for
another month. I don't know. This just feels like Cardinals
is going to have a different quarterback next year. But
I'll ask JJ Watt how much power input does a
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player have if he is going to go in the
iron or doesn't want to go in the IRN because
it's automatic. It's four weeks.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
Yeah, there's a timeline going around right now that you
can see exactly where you are in the Kyler Murray story.
It starts with Kyler's day to day, Kyler's questionable. Jacoby
will start, but Kyler might play. Then Kyler's out but
still are starting, and then Jacoby's our starter, but Kyler
will be back soon. Kyler's on the ir That's where
we are right now, that Kyler's done for the season,
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Kyler is traded, and Jacoby is.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
The Super Bowl MVP. I don't know who put that together.
Is very funny.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Some of those things happen happened.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Here is Jonathan Gannon, the Cardinals head coach.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
Today, Kyler is going to go on ir feel like
that's the best thing for him and for us. He's
not fully healthy ready to go yet, so that makes
the most sense. Obviously that's a change, but we just felt,
you know, looking at it right now, that's the best
thing for him and us. Like I just said, he's
fully committed right now. What he's going to concentrate on
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is getting healthy. He's not healthy enough to play. He
needs to get healthy so he can get back to
playing football.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Okay, I'm going to take the coach out his word,
but it almost feels like we need you to stand
in front of the media and come up with something here.
Just may he's all in and we're committed, and Okay,
it feels like there's something else going on here. John
(08:54):
and Fort Lauderdale. Morning, John, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (08:57):
Good morning Dan? Listening to you all the time. First,
I'm calling you. I have personal knowledge because I know
someone that plays on the team. They've done with Kyler.
He's always late to practice. He doesn't mingle with the players.
He sits there with his headset on. He doesn't talk
to the receivers. He shows up for practice and it's
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basically underwear.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, but John, I mean, I can't go with that.
That's not fair to the situation. You might know somebody,
but you're not going to tell me who that person is.
Nobody wants to be on record with this, so I
got to be fair to the situation here. Now, I've
heard variety of things about Kyler Murray, but I got
to be fair to him.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Yeah, that means that Kyler Murray's last play with the
Cardinals potentially is a botched snap that hit him in
the face and there was a turnover to the Titans.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well do I think Kyler will be there next year?
I don't, but I've kind of been in that position
for a while.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think he's an incredible talent, but as we've said before,
you have to learn how to play the position. Some
people are just gifted to be able to play. But
after a while you slow down. They speed up. Guys
understand the game, and it just doesn't feel like you know,
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he's a student of the game and all the greats.
You have to be a student of the game. I
don't care how talented you are. At some point you
need to figure this out with your mind and not
just your body, not just your athleticism and you got
to be committed. It's the toughest position to play in
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all the sports.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Yeah, pot looking at Kyler Murray's contract, He's fully under
contract next year for at least forty five million dollars
or's other incentives. But this could be one of those
Russell Wilson situations where Denver wanted to move on so
badly that they paid him to play for Pittsburgh. When
Pittsburgh acquired Russ Wilson in twenty twenty four, they paid
him one point two million dollars to play that season.
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The other thirty nine million dollars were paid by the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, and I know I brought this up yesterday. I
didn't have any information that is. Could I see where
the Jets bring in Kyler Murray? I mean I just
throw that out there that Do I think that he
can be saved? Yeah? Because he has that much talent,
Although I don't know if going into a Jets situation
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is best for him. But same with Tua. If I'm
the GM and I'm coming in and I'm bringing in
a coach, the first thing I'm saying as a coach
is what are we doing? With our quarterbacking situation, and
I don't know if you have answers there, and that's tricky.
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All right, Our one poll question Seaton, whose career would
you like? JJ Watt Clayton Kershaw? Oh oh yeah, boom,
I thought you were going. I thought you were going
to ask me which quarterback would I want to? Or Kyler?
Which quarterback would you like to? Or Kyle?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Since we have JJ coming up, we'll do that one.
So about both are first ballot Hall of famers. You know,
it's weird if if you make two plays and you're
a defensive player, you can have a great game in
people's minds. Let's say JJ Watt has two sacks and
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you didn't watch the game, you go, oh my god,
at two sacks. All right, If Clayton Kershaw gives up
two mistakes, he has a bad game. So here's JJ
who can have two great plays. Clayton can have two
bad pitches and have a bad game if.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
One of them seems to have a lot more pressure
on their shoulders throughout the entire game. Yeah, I mean,
obviously JJ Watt's job is very difficult, but Slayton Kershaw,
you're standing on the Mountain by yourself. You're giving up
those hits, you're giving up those earned runs. You know
you're doing all of that, JJ Watt. You could theoretically
disappear into the game and it would take a while
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to notice, like, man, JJ hasn't done much today.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yes, John, or you could have three rings or no rings? Oh, Todd?
Who you taking? Whose career?
Speaker 9 (13:24):
That's the reason why I would lean towards Clayton Kersher.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Three titles, that's three cy youngs.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
How about you, Seaton?
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Yeah, I think respectfully taking Clayton Kershaw because he's won,
he's made a great living, played for a long time,
which I think is pretty great too.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Marvin Clayton Kershaw, and he was on the Dodgers, like
he was a Dodger.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Paul, I'm going Kershaw, But not because of the titles.
It's because of the lifestyle. Football is violence and painful,
and you only get to play seventeen games a year.
In baseball, you get to go to the park every day.
You don't have to go to practice or meetings, and
being a starting pitcher is the ultimate lifestyle in sports.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Hey, do we ask JJ Watt whose career he would want?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Ask me all right, well ask you. It'd be funny
if he said, oh I take Clayton kershaws Man. That
guy's healthy. He has no no surgery, no way, probably
had a surgery or two.
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Speaker 2 (15:06):
Are we going to play the jj Watt game before
we bring on jj Watt Pauline.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
We have to play it and have him give the answer.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Okay, okay, are you ready?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You have music? Mark? Okay, Okay.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
The game is total number of surgeries during during JJ
Watt's football career. Total number. I know the answer, so
I can't give it out. But Dan, you're gonna go last, Fritzy.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I'm gonna go with my favorite number of eleven, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Eighteen, Seaton fifteen, damn nine procedures count. So it's total
number of surgeries and procedures.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Oh oh, okay.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
Say hold on now, I feel like we just added
perced So you were saying surgeries top surgeries and.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Procedure tough, guys don't have procedures. That's illegal procedure on
your part right there. Bringing the guests, all right, let's
bring in JJ Watt. How many surgeries and procedures did
you have while you were.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I got a few questions before I even answer that.
How does Paulie know the answer? Because I don't have
the answer. That's what I do here. I don't have
You can't possibly have the answer because I mean, there's
a few reasons why you can't.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But I it's it's significant. What number do you have, Palie?
Speaker 6 (16:19):
I have nine without breaking any hip.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Along way more than that.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Okay, okay, did you hide some procedures in surgeries? Is
that what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
No, not hidden, but like there'd be a scope in
the off season that's not reported anywhere. That nobody ever
knows about, you know, like that, just because it's in
the middle of the off season. What would you guess,
I mean, if you're talking like depends on what you
consider a procedure, like obviously, like I don't think like
PRP shots and things like that are no siegures. But
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I mean actually going into my body, it's it's it's
definitely double.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Digits, maybe like fifteen.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, I mean it's it's brutal.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I mean, I have a picture on my phone still
of when I broke my leg and they opened it up,
and I don't know why they showed me that picture.
I don't know why they to me. But you can
when you can look inside and see your own bone
and see all the vessels and everything and your muscles,
it's gonna make it squirmish, damn.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Okay, but you kept it. It's on your phone, so yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Mean it's a bad ass.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Can you hold it up and show us.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I literally don't know if it would be allowed on television.
It's it's a gaping hole about that big because they
take it and they put calipers on it, and they
spread your leg apart, and then they have to get
down to the bone, and so my bone was in
like it was shattered. So it was just dozens of pieces.
So they stick this huge metal plate up against it
and put nine screws in there, and still in there today.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I'm wondering your Hall of Fame bust. Can we do
the one where you got blood coming down your mind?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I hope so it'll be cool.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Now, do you have any control, any say in when
you go in what your bust looks like?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I have no idea. I have no idea how any
of that works. I'm not even. I'm not even. I
don't know how that works.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I think Peyton Manning had forehead approval like you.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, like you get to I assume you got to
be able to pick your picture right. You can't.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I don't think you can have accessories, and I feel
like blood would be an accessory.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
All Right, we have a poll question. Whose career would
you want? Yours or Clayton Kershaw's. He joins his.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
One championships warn championships. I go with Clayton.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You would go with Clayton? Yeah, okay, let's take three right,
Oh yeah, let's take away titles.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Okay, Well, then what what are you comparing?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Because he did it for a really long time at
a really really high level, so you would probably say
doing it longer is better. Baseball is a very long season,
one hundred and sixty two games. You're on the road
away from family a lot. Part of the reason I
retired was to be by family. So he's probably made
I mean baseball, he's probably made a quarter of a
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billion at.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Least he's made three to twenty Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
But he probably hasn't had double digit surgeries either, so
that's a plus.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I opened the show talking about this Kyler Murray situation
because I'm I'm baffled by this that it doesn't feel
like he's your franchise quarterback too much longer there in Arizona.
Now he's on the IR. Let me just start with
that question. How much does the player have to say
or input of going on the IR and not going
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on an IR.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I mean it, I would say they have some say
because it IR is like ken you play or not.
I mean there's you know, there's situations early in the
year training camp for you stash guys and things like that.
But I mean, especially in today's world where you can
come back off the IR after four weeks. It's it's
there's a part of that conversation is are you going
to be good in four weeks or not?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Or are you going to be good in less than
four weeks?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Okay, what do you think is going on with the
Cardinals and Cnamory?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I mean, I mean just literally looking at it from
an outside.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
First of all, I couldn't watch the game on Monday night,
so I don't know what that game looked like. But
it sounds like Jakobe played pretty well. But it's I mean,
it seems like from what I've seen what I've read,
that they're comfortable with with Pric playing quarterback and operating offense.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, but you got a backup making forty five million
dollars Atlanta does. Yeah, but that's awkward too.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I mean, there's a lot of awkward stuff in the NFL.
There's a whole lot of awkward stuff in the NFL.
I mean I think that they're also probably a coaching
staff who feels some pressure, like at some point, you
got to win football games. It can't be purely potential
for a coaching staff before you're the one on the
way out. So it becomes how do we win football games?
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Right now, and what do I think as my job
on the line? You know how it is, and it's
a cover of your ass. Society in this business and
you have to find a way to win football games
or you're going to be out the door and whatever
that takes. I mean, there's situations all over the league
where coaches are trying to do whatever's and gms are
trying to do whatever's best to keep them in that seat.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
The longest we're talking to JJ Watt, he'll be on
the booth the Jags and Texans. That's at one Eastern
on CBS. You were there for the Colts and the Steelers.
What stood out with the Colts that would make you
still believe that they are going to be there at
the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I mean, they fought back all the way to the end,
and in that nonside kick, which we all know is
not a real chance, but they fought back all the
way to the end, and even with six takeaways, they
were within the potential of one score at the end
of the game. So that fight and drive was there.
It's their first crew punch in the mouth and it
didn't go well. I mean, six takeaways and everything that
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came along with a you muff a punt and they
just ran into a bit of a buzz.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Saw on that day.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
And I watched their offense and the thing I see
with their offense is when they are on schedule and
when they are doing what they do best, which is
first down success leading to a very efficient drive, They're
unbelievable and so hard to stop. That game starts to
put just the slightest question in you of Okay, if
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they aren't on schedule, which for most teams is difficult,
and they have to drop back and teams kind of
just are going one dimensional at them, can they do that?
And that's what we'll have to see going forward. If
another team has a chance to punch them in the
mouth and cut that run game down the way the
Steelers did, can they pass their way out of it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
How's it been broadcasting a game your brother's playing in.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
It's been.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Honestly, it's not nearly as bad as I think people
think it would be. It's it's a job. Like it's
a job. You're up there, and I know how to
be professional. I know how to do my job. I'll
talk to him before the game. I talked to him
after the game, but during the game, like Ian handles
the play by play anyway, so I have like a
three or four second buffer when he makes a strip
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sack fumble where Ian is doing his job really well,
and then I break down the play and from the
fan reaction, I'm very appreciative of all the opposing fans
who have been so kind because I have consciously tried
to keep it extremely unbiased.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
The difference, and I think I know the answer. But
going out to a game as opposed to be in studio.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, I mean for me personally, like I missed the
guys in the studio, but I love being in the stadium.
I love the adrenaline, I love the atmosphere. I love
the unpredictability of your calling the game as it happens,
so you need to be on your toes. It's much
more kind of challenging for me. And it also during
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the week is much more like being a player. You're
watching more film, deeper, talking to coordinators.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I really like that.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, that's what I told Drew Brees because he was
going to be in studio with Football Night in America,
and I said, you got to be ready for it
because there's no energy there when you go to a game,
there's energy like it's tangible when you're like I feel this,
Like that's as close as you'll get to playing again.
And now I just saw where Drew is going to
be an analyst being out on the road with Fox.
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But that energy, that's as close as you can replicate
it to actually playing in a game.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Yeah, and like you said, like for for athletes who
have been in it before, it tricks you into getting
back into that mindset where you can get as close
to that flow state as possible where you're just letting
your instincts and everything take over, whereas kind of like
you said in the studio, you have to to manufacture
it for yourself a little bit more to get it going.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Best team you've seen this year is who.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
When the Colts offense is humming the Colts offense, for sure,
I would team as a whole. The Rams is very good.
We saw the Rams early on. The Rams are very good.
And again this is just teams that I've called this year.
We haven't called to the others, but that Colts offense. Man,
we watched them against the Chargers and it was play
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at will, like Tyler Warren running wide open, Jonathan Taylor
running down. They got Alec Pierce going like that offense
when it is at its best, is unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
You know, some people looked at the Jets and said
they did great at the trade deadline. What do you
think when you unload a couple of star players.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I think they got a good haul for what they
gave away. I think it's the question of what are
they going to do with that and what gives you
confidence in that because you gave a way young players
that you drafted with a very similar haul that you
just got.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
So, you know, I love seeing.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
The graphic that people just put out where like the
last time they had those three first round picks it
was you know, Breese Hall and saw it like and
you're like, okay, so you're giving away young talented players
to hopefully find more young talented players. I just don't
know where the what the plan is there, and where
the confidence should come in finding that success.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
That's what would make me nervous is when you know,
fans will say we got all these draft picks, and
I say, well, who's drafting? Because that's really the key
and your goal is to find players like Sauce Gardner
and Quinn Williams, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
That's that's my thing is like we can have you
got have all the draft picks in the world, A
Sauce Gardener and a Quinn Williams. Those are hard to
hit on, and you had two of them in your
building and now you're going to have to go out
and replicate it. But it goes very back to our
conversation from earlier. A GM can come in and say,
those weren't my guys. Now you've got to give me
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time to get my guys. Give me these draft picks
and you start. Now, maybe they do it, maybe it's
maybe it works incredibly well, but it's extremely hard to
hit in the draft.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Is there a quarterback you didn't get that you've seen
when you've gone to a game?
Speaker 3 (27:18):
What do you mean sacked? Oh? Pat? I've never I
never sacked Pat Malmes?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So, yeah, does he remind you of that?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
I saw him last summer and we talked about a
little bit. But now he he's good man, he's good Tom.
Tom likes to say that I never got him. We've
had this conversation one hundred times, but I got him
in the playoffs. It just doesn't count as as an
official sack.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
What about Rogers?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I got Rogers twice in one game.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I did the belt celebration after the first one, and
he threw six touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Over my head, So that was a mistake.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Who talked the most out of Mahomes, Brady and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Not a ton of talking, Not a ton of talking.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Rogers a little bit, Brady, if you got him fired
up like you could get you get him fired up.
Pat Pat wasn't didn't talk a whole lot. Now Andrew
luck talked a lot. But that was just nice, like
we would just have full blown conversations, just literal.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Like did it did it?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Still?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Did it sound like this?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Oh you're a great defensive end, high motor.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
What ahead? Nice keys man?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Well, he had a defensive mentality to playing offense. It
felt like he was the best man.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
I love playing Andrew like literally had the most respect
for him. Hit him probably harder than I've hit anybody
else besides Ryan Fitzpatrick, and every time he popped back up.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
What happened to Ryan Fitzpatrick?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I had a game where I had I got fifteen
quarterback hits, zero sacks, and I was just laying the
hammer time after time after time, and they were on
a two minute drive at the end of the game,
and I'm I'm swear I hit him four times in
a row, four knockdowns. Every time I was like, that's it,
He's not getting back up, and every time he popped
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back up. So we eventually were teammates after that, and
I shared those stories and I don't know what it is,
but that man, he's got a little he's got some
juice to his game.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I love I love fits well.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I remember Michael Strahan was telling me he had so
much respect for Tom Brady when they hit him in
that Super Bowl, like they they were, they dominated that
Super Bowl, that defensive one. He said, we hit him,
We hit him every time. He said he never complained.
He complained about his offensive line, but he never said
would just say good hit and get back up. But
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is that Is that more frustrating if a quarterback goes, hey,
good hit and he pops back up.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
It's no, because I don't want him to be hurt,
like that's like a common misconception. But it it's more
frustrating to me when he looks at the ref for
a flag because that does work, like the ref will
eventually throw that flag.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
So I don't want like I can't stand it when
they just I'd love it.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
I would respect a quarterback when he just pops up
and he appreciates that this is a violent game.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, but do you say like stomp being a wolff.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
No, you gotta be a real punk to get me
to say something like that. Like, there's there's some young
kids there. There are a couple of young kids who
later in my career, I'd hit him and they would whine,
and I'd be like, you don't have the right to
whine here, man, how's your soccer team?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
We're doing good, man, we're doing good. Espaniel is doing
really well.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
We're in six in La Liga and Burnley's currently out
of the relegation zone in the Premier League. Big match
coming up this weekend, so a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Is your son going to play football or soccer?
Speaker 4 (30:52):
We're definitely gonna have him in soccer to start, because
of the ball skills and the agility. But I mean,
let's be honest here, Dan, he's in the ninety nine
percentile for and wait, he's uh, he's not gonna have
the endurance to be out there running around for ninety
minutes on a pitch.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
He's a big boy.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Is he bench is he bench pressing?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
He does wheelbarrow walks right now, so he's big on
the wheelbarrow walks.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
So yeah, old old school. I like it. Hey, great
to talk to you. Safe travels and uh thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Thank you guys. Have a great day, miss y'all.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's JJ. He's got the uh Jags and the Texans
coming up. One of his old teams there had the
Colts and the Steelers and uh Burnley. Burnley is out
a relegation seat.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
And I think so.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Yeah, that was an Espanol hat that he was wearing too,
So he's he's got a little foot in Spain foot
in England. It's pretty good, It's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
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Speaker 2 (32:02):
Clayton Kershaw, the recently retired three time Cy Young winner
and future Hall of Famer. We spoke to him yesterday
and the first question I asked was how's retirement.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Day one? Pretty good? Yeah? So far, so good.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
You know what's gonna happen though, You know how your
body adapts to certain times of the year. Oh yeah,
you know, come February, you're gonna be bringing the kids outside,
You're gonna get loose, You're in a long tossing and
all of that. So get ready for that because you're
gonna you're gonna face that. Plus everybody's gonna be out
of the house and you're gonna be like, what am
(32:38):
I doing?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (32:40):
I everybody says, there are a lot of guys that
I talked to you said, opening day is the day where
you're like, man, I'm not there. You know, it's a
weird So I opening Day is going to be a
weird one. But to be fair, I haven't been at
spring training in a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I've kind of.
Speaker 11 (32:54):
Planned some surgeries pretty well, so kind of miss spring training,
So that'll be that won't be too new for me.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
What was this World Series like as opposed to the
other ones?
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yeah, I mean last year was really cool because we
got the parade.
Speaker 11 (33:08):
You know, I think, you know, after the COVID World
Series not getting to do the parade or anything, and
then getting to do that last year it was kind
of a celebration of almost two world series, you know,
and so that that was awesome. But for me personally
to be a part of this one more than I
was last year and to get to see you know,
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just to feel feel a little bit more a part
of it. And then the parade this year was insane.
It was it was so much bigger, so much longer,
so many people, and that's just really special, you know,
your last one to get to kind of celebrate with
the fans and you know, tell them thank you, tell
them how much they you know, supported us and our
team and me personally for so long.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
And it was just so fun.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Man, it was so cool.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
The importance of having your kids at an age where
they can appreciate seeing dad out there. How important and
was that to you?
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Yeah, I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
You know.
Speaker 11 (34:02):
My oldest three I think will definitely, I don't know,
do you remember stuff when you're five? I think you do? Yeah,
my my it's close. But at least my oldest too,
I think, had a blast. You know, my oldest son,
Charlie got to be in the dug out a lot
this year, got to be in the you know, shag
BP do all the stuff, and so he was super invested.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
In it this year.
Speaker 11 (34:24):
And I'm thankful they'll remember me that I had a
job at some point. You know, it'll be good. It
was just it was so fun and memorable. And I
mean my wife rock stars. She's pregnant right now and
traveling from Toronto to Dallas and school back to LA
to Toronto.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
I mean, just doing it all.
Speaker 11 (34:44):
So it was It's good to be home and good
to get to celebrate with the fan too.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Have you seen the video of your wife in the
stands when you're on the mound.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Oh my god, she's not a reliever wife.
Speaker 11 (34:55):
Then she's a starter wife. That's just that's just too
much stress to not know when you're coming in and
to get to do all that.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
But yeah, I think she was. She was feeling it,
uh to say the least.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Okay, But are you nervous in that moment?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Yeah, I mean for sure. I think I think we
all are.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I don't know if you allow yourself to get like
you have to play a mind game that I got
to be confident. I can't have any doubt or be nervous.
Speaker 11 (35:24):
I think you got both though. I think it's not doubt,
like you're you're confident you can do your job. But
you know, warming up in the pen, hearing that phone
ring kind of all new stuff for me. It's like
that phone rings, it's like an adrenaline pump, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
And so.
Speaker 11 (35:40):
You know, all that running in, trying to feel your
legs and trying to execute pitches and all that. You know,
at the end of the day, I'm just so glad
I got that out because that was the last time
I ever pitched, and you know, it could have gone sideways.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
So I'm just glad.
Speaker 11 (35:55):
I'm just glad I got that lasted out, and I
thought it was gonna be a bigger out, but we
end up playing like seven more innings, you know, so
I think, uh, it's.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Just it was a crazy game.
Speaker 11 (36:05):
And like I said, last time, a Dodger stated to Fish,
it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Dave Roberts said that you were probably coming in in
game seven.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (36:15):
Yeah, So I had no idea there was one out.
So then Kirk grounded into that double play. I thought
I was coming in the game like tie game, Uh,
extra innings, I'm pitching with two outs, and I left
the up to bat and then Bardo, our bullpen coach,
just said, hey, we just want to.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
You know, I had no idea. I had no idea.
That was amazing though.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
So a delayed reaction.
Speaker 11 (36:43):
Yeah, I just I didn't believe at first, and then yeah,
I turned around, saw everybody out there, and ran out.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
There and got to celebrate again. Man, just amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Talking to the Dodgers Clayton Kersham no a former Dodger.
Clayton Kersham Dodger unemployed. What are you going to do
the rest of your life?
Speaker 5 (37:02):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 11 (37:03):
You know, I've got a lot of kids, so obviously
I'll do that for a while. And I love baseball.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
I do. I love baseball. I have a passion for it.
Speaker 11 (37:11):
I feel like I can help in some regard, in
some way, but I have no idea what that looks like.
I obviously don't, you know, feel the need or want
to travel too much right now. So you know, there's
some cush gigs out there, you know, some special assistant
jobs and different things like that that if the Dodgers
are gracious enough to let me do that at some point,
(37:32):
I think I'd definitely be interested in that. But you know,
we have a baby coming in December, and everybody says,
I have to figure out how to play golf, so
maybe I'll try that. I don't know, I really don't
have any idea. It's kind of nice, though, the no
plan plan.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
It's gotta be weird though. You're watching the ninth inning
from the bullpen. Yeah, yeah, so you don't even have comfort,
you don't have company. It's just you and the bullpen catcher.
I'm guessing.
Speaker 11 (37:59):
Yeah. I mean, you know, there's a few guys, a
few of us left down there. But hey, what an
amazing what Yama did? I mean, that was I don't
think I don't know if you'll ever see that again
in baseball. It is like a guy that pitched Game six,
come in and not just get one or two outs,
but go too. And I think it was two and
two thirds or something. So it just just incredible, superhuman
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stuff from Yama. And there's a lot of guys that
went out of their comfort zones for us to win
this World Series. And I think that's what makes the
Dodgers so special.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Man.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
A lot of.
Speaker 11 (38:32):
Superstars, obviously, but a lot of guys willing to go
above and beyond to help us, which is really cool.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yamamoto. I said this to your manager, former manager. He
reminded me of Pedro Martinez, similar size. Yeah, and just
feels like he can throw every single day.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (38:49):
I mean I cannot believe what he did and how
I mean, I don't know how he felt the next day,
but for him to do that, man, just like and
he's you know, he's been on the appan his schedule,
you know, coming over from Japan, and then even this year,
you know, Doc protected him a lot, you know, basically
pitching on a weak rest for six days the whole time.
So for him with no days to go out there
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and do it, I'm thankful for Yama.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
He got me one more World Series. So thank you Yama.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Did you ever pitch too, Otani?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
With the Angels, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (39:24):
Check the numbers, Dan, check the numbers. I never gave
up a hit to showmate, and I will have that
for the rest of my life.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I think he was like, oh for ten or eleven
or something.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Wow. Yeah, yeah, you don't rub that in, do you.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
I haven't told him yet. I didn't know how he
would take it, but.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I got the numbers. He's oh for eleven with four strikeouts.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Yeah, it feels good.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
He owned the greatest player in the history of the sport.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Yeah, it feels great. I'll take that all day.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Did anybody ever ask you how to pitch him knowing
your success?
Speaker 5 (39:58):
I mean guys asked me on our team.
Speaker 11 (40:00):
Obviously I would never say anything to anybody else, but
I think I just you can't throw middle speed pitches,
and unfortunately, now that's all I throw, is middle speed.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
I don't know if that end very well now, but man.
Speaker 11 (40:12):
It was like the slider change up mid eighties, upper eighties.
I don't care how good it is. I don't feel
confident throwing that stuff. So you gotta throw really hard
or throw soft.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Like okay, But at what point do you know I
can't do this. I can't fool people like I can't
be Clayton Krushel anymore.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Yeah, you know, I think over the course of this season,
I really started to feel it more like I was
able to pitch okay, you know, and I had a
decent season, which I'm super thankful for, and I was
healthy for it.
Speaker 11 (40:43):
But you know, sometimes you look up there and I
was throwing you know, eighty seven eighty eight mile an
hour fastballs, and I felt healthy, felt completely healthy, and
you know, I just it just felt like it was
the right time, Like this was not going to work
for that much longer. And so in the day and
age that we have now of velocity, like even ninety
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one ninety two is not potentially enough, Like you can
get away with it as a starter if you know
what you're doing. But it just didn't really feel like
I had I had enough in the tank to do
it for one more year. And you know, Ellena, even
going into the season where like, hey, this kind of
feels like the last one, and so you know, this
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last month, knowing that it was over and getting to
do this the way it was, just couldn't write a
better script.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Man, It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
If you were going to name your soon to be
born baby after one of your teammates, former teammates, who
would it be.
Speaker 11 (41:37):
Well, I'm having a girl, but if I was having
a boy, I guess the question is who do I
like the most man right now? Maybe Yoshi Nobu, maybe
just Yoshi right.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Yeah, yeah, you can go Yosh. I was a big
Mario Kart fan growing up.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Go Yoshi, Hey, congratulations, And I still go back. I
get people during COVID when you were in your office
and you were showing how you grip. I mean, you
were our first zoom guest and when you showed us
all of your pitches. I still have people saying how
much they appreciated that and learned from that. And I
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always go back to that, because do you have a
baseball by you here?
Speaker 5 (42:26):
Yeah, give me fifteen seconds. Oh wait, nope, I got one,
got it.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Okay, give me the grip of your last pitch as
a major leaguer.
Speaker 11 (42:35):
All right, as a slider, I threw all sliders because
basically my fastball on the slider are the same pitch.
Speaker 9 (42:41):
So I just.
Speaker 11 (42:43):
So I just kind of did this. It's like a
forcing grip, but I just get the top. I think
this is like a I think he opened beer cans
with this.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
You might be using that a lot, Yeah I might.
Speaker 11 (42:55):
And then I just kind of my fingers so it's
it's literally like a fastball with a slight angle of
the fingers. And yeah, I threw that slider the most
of any pitch for the last few years and saved
my career.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Got to stick around a little longer.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Well, congrats, congrats with the baby coming up, and in retirement.
We appreciate your time, Clayton.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Thanks then always falling Man.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I appreciate it, Clayton Kershaw
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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tonight and what is it? Ten points? Is that the
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nine and a half points? I think, Todd, Yeah, the
Broncos have to win by at least ten or I'm
wearing a Raiders Owner Davis wig. Right, Yeah, Mark Davis.
We just got that wig in, you know, would you
just try it on just to see if it works?
Just I want to jinx at.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I'll do it for content.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
But then if I'm putting it on, then I'm like
preparing myself for them not to win by double m.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, I just want to make sure it's going to fit.
If not, then I have to get another one.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I was like, you want me to go get that.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, I could have one of the back room guys
get it. I'm happy to put it on briefly, Yeah,
just briefly. That's not how long.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
It's going to take them bring it out, so maybe
I should go get it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, no, no, I'll have them bring it out. If
they're listening to the show, I'm like me, they might
not be all righty. So you have the Raiders. They
are getting nine and a half against the Broncos over
under his forty two and a half. Thursday Night Football,
Cardinals put Kyler Murray on the IR so he's out
at least four more weeks. Okay, I said, I thought
(01:26):
something was up, and then all of a sudden, Jacoby
Brissett wins. They have their coach go to the press conference,
Jonathan Gannon. He's asked about who's the starting quarterback and
he says that his starting quarterback is Kyler Murray. Very
quickly said that. And now all of a sudden we
find out that maybe that foot is not healthy. Then
(01:47):
we find out Jacoby Brissett's going to start this next weekend,
and then all of a sudden he gets put on
the injured reserve list with a foot injury, and now
he's going to be out for four more weeks. How
close was he to playing? I know he wasn't suited
up for the Dallas game. Just feels like there's something
going on there. It just doesn't match up that he's
(02:10):
our quarterback to maybe not this week, to now he's
going to be put on the injured reserve list. Like
what happened after the game. Kyler Murray didn't play and
Jonathan Gannon says, no, Kyler Murray's our starting quarterback. I
understand you don't want to have a quarterback controversy, but
you know what you did. You created a quarterback controversy
(02:30):
here because Jacoby Brissett is going to start at least
four more games. And do I think he's better for
this team right now? I do. He knows how to
play the position. But the whole I mean, you're spending
a lot of money on Kyler Murray and you owe
him a lot of money next year as well. But
(02:51):
this is a situation where these teams you go and
give your quarterback his money early. They did that with Kyler,
they did that with Tua. I understand it can be smart.
You can have a Josh Allen situation, maybe Joe Burrows situation, okay,
but these are two quarterbacks that I had questions about
(03:13):
from the beginning, and now you owe toua fifty four
million dollars you're gonna have a new coach, a new GM.
You're not gonna have Tyreek Hill is two. We're going
to be there next year? Does he have to be
there next year? Feels like the answer is yes, Kyler Murray.
Is he going to be there next year? You're going
to owe him fifty million dollars and he's not going
(03:36):
to be starting for you. Are you going to move
on from him?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
So?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
These are these are those dilemmas you have when you
start to pay somebody and you pay them a year early.
And I know that it probably ruffles feathers with these
players and their agent, but I would be saying I
want to see more. If I'm giving you fifty million dollars,
you have to and it's just fifty million a year,
I could be giving you a two hundred and fifty million.
(04:01):
I reserve the right to be able to say to you,
I want to see one more year. You may be
bothered by that. I need to see one more year now.
Unless you say, Josh Allen checks all the boxes, we're
gonna you know, he is a franchise, He's a Hall
of Famer, and you say that about Joe Burrow. I
(04:22):
just don't want to rush. You don't need to rush.
There's nothing wrong with saying one more year, because I
would have given to I would have looked at franchising him,
you know, give him one more year. Even I would
never given him long term contracts. I don't think he's
a long term quarterback, just size health. I wouldn't. It
(04:45):
doesn't make any sense, Kyler Murray, you have a clause
in his contract that says no video games, you must study.
I know a caddie who caddied for a famous player,
and the player would never practice, but he would tell
(05:06):
his caddie that he would be practicing. So the caddie
put in a piece of paper into the driver the
cover that goes on the driver, and he would check
whenever they went out to, you know, play in a tournament.
He would lift up the cover on the driver and
the paper would fall out, so he knew that he
(05:26):
wasn't practicing. So, Kyler Murray, you got to put in
a clause in his contract to say, hey, can you
do less video more studying. That's not somebody I want,
Thank you, sir. And look, I don't know how he
is in the locker room. He doesn't strike me as
(05:48):
a leader. If you play well, it's amazing how good
your leadership is. But he's not playing well, and now
the foot just got worse, and now he's out for
four more games, four more weeks. Man, this is how
coaches get fired. You or you can keep your job.
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But if I'm going into the dolphin situation and I'm
gonna have to hire a coach, and then is that
my quarterback? And are you sold on that, I wouldn't be. Yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
I'm reading the timeline of all this on the Arizona
Central newspaper. They cover, you know, the Cardinals every day.
Three weeks ago, in Week six, Kyler Murray was a
game time decision with his foot injury, and while not playing,
somehow it got worse. Jonathan Gannon, their head coach, talked
about the decision to put him on the IR yesterday
and he said, quote talking with him, talking to other people.
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Obviously a collective decision here. I wonder putting people on
IR is a discussion and it was agreed upon by
both parties. And they don't have to worry about him
in a uniform when Jacoby Prisett's playing for the next
four weeks.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
The fact that he wasn't even in uniform against the
cow Boys. But then he's our starting quarterback, and then
he's not your starting quarterback, and now he's out for
another month. I don't know. This just feels like Cardinals
is going to have a different quarterback next year. But
I'll ask JJ Watt how much power input does a
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player have if he is going to go in the
iron or doesn't want to go in the IRN because
it's automatic. It's four weeks.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
Yeah, there's a timeline going around right now that you
can see exactly where you are in the Kyler Murray story.
It starts with Kyler's day to day, Kyler's questionable. Jacoby
will start, but Kyler might play. Then Kyler's out but
still are starting, and then Jacoby's our starter, but Kyler
will be back soon. Kyler's on the ir That's where
we are right now, that Kyler's done for the season,
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Kyler is traded, and Jacoby is.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
The Super Bowl MVP. I don't know who put that together.
Is very funny.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Some of those things happen happened.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Here is Jonathan Gannon, the Cardinals head coach.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
Today, Kyler is going to go on ir feel like
that's the best thing for him and for us. He's
not fully healthy ready to go yet, so that makes
the most sense. Obviously that's a change, but we just felt,
you know, looking at it right now, that's the best
thing for him and us. Like I just said, he's
fully committed right now. What he's going to concentrate on
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is getting healthy. He's not healthy enough to play. He
needs to get healthy so he can get back to
playing football.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Okay, I'm going to take the coach out his word,
but it almost feels like we need you to stand
in front of the media and come up with something here.
Just may he's all in and we're committed, and Okay,
it feels like there's something else going on here. John
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and Fort Lauderdale. Morning, John, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (08:57):
Good morning Dan? Listening to you all the time. First,
I'm calling you. I have personal knowledge because I know
someone that plays on the team. They've done with Kyler.
He's always late to practice. He doesn't mingle with the players.
He sits there with his headset on. He doesn't talk
to the receivers. He shows up for practice and it's
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basically underwear.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, but John, I mean, I can't go with that.
That's not fair to the situation. You might know somebody,
but you're not going to tell me who that person is.
Nobody wants to be on record with this, so I
got to be fair to the situation here. Now, I've
heard variety of things about Kyler Murray, but I got
to be fair to him.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Yeah, that means that Kyler Murray's last play with the
Cardinals potentially is a botched snap that hit him in
the face and there was a turnover to the Titans.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well do I think Kyler will be there next year?
I don't, but I've kind of been in that position
for a while.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think he's an incredible talent, but as we've said before,
you have to learn how to play the position. Some
people are just gifted to be able to play. But
after a while you slow down. They speed up. Guys
understand the game, and it just doesn't feel like you know,
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he's a student of the game and all the greats.
You have to be a student of the game. I
don't care how talented you are. At some point you
need to figure this out with your mind and not
just your body, not just your athleticism and you got
to be committed. It's the toughest position to play in
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all the sports.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Yeah, pot looking at Kyler Murray's contract, He's fully under
contract next year for at least forty five million dollars
or's other incentives. But this could be one of those
Russell Wilson situations where Denver wanted to move on so
badly that they paid him to play for Pittsburgh. When
Pittsburgh acquired Russ Wilson in twenty twenty four, they paid
him one point two million dollars to play that season.
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The other thirty nine million dollars were paid by the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, and I know I brought this up yesterday. I
didn't have any information that is. Could I see where
the Jets bring in Kyler Murray? I mean I just
throw that out there that Do I think that he
can be saved? Yeah? Because he has that much talent,
Although I don't know if going into a Jets situation
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is best for him. But same with Tua. If I'm
the GM and I'm coming in and I'm bringing in
a coach, the first thing I'm saying as a coach
is what are we doing? With our quarterbacking situation, and
I don't know if you have answers there, and that's tricky.
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All right, Our one poll question Seaton, whose career would
you like? JJ Watt Clayton Kershaw? Oh oh yeah, boom,
I thought you were going. I thought you were going
to ask me which quarterback would I want to? Or Kyler?
Which quarterback would you like to? Or Kyle?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Since we have JJ coming up, we'll do that one.
So about both are first ballot Hall of famers. You know,
it's weird if if you make two plays and you're
a defensive player, you can have a great game in
people's minds. Let's say JJ Watt has two sacks and
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you didn't watch the game, you go, oh my god,
at two sacks. All right, If Clayton Kershaw gives up
two mistakes, he has a bad game. So here's JJ
who can have two great plays. Clayton can have two
bad pitches and have a bad game if.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
One of them seems to have a lot more pressure
on their shoulders throughout the entire game. Yeah, I mean,
obviously JJ Watt's job is very difficult, but Slayton Kershaw,
you're standing on the Mountain by yourself. You're giving up
those hits, you're giving up those earned runs. You know
you're doing all of that, JJ Watt. You could theoretically
disappear into the game and it would take a while
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to notice, like, man, JJ hasn't done much today.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yes, John, or you could have three rings or no rings? Oh, Todd?
Who you taking? Whose career?
Speaker 9 (13:24):
That's the reason why I would lean towards Clayton Kersher.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Three titles, that's three cy youngs.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
How about you, Seaton?
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Yeah, I think respectfully taking Clayton Kershaw because he's won,
he's made a great living, played for a long time,
which I think is pretty great too.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Marvin Clayton Kershaw, and he was on the Dodgers, like
he was a Dodger.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Paul, I'm going Kershaw, But not because of the titles.
It's because of the lifestyle. Football is violence and painful,
and you only get to play seventeen games a year.
In baseball, you get to go to the park every day.
You don't have to go to practice or meetings, and
being a starting pitcher is the ultimate lifestyle in sports.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Hey, do we ask JJ Watt whose career he would want?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Ask me all right, well ask you. It'd be funny
if he said, oh I take Clayton kershaws Man. That
guy's healthy. He has no no surgery, no way, probably
had a surgery or two.
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Speaker 2 (15:06):
Are we going to play the jj Watt game before
we bring on jj Watt Pauline.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
We have to play it and have him give the answer.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Okay, okay, are you ready?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You have music? Mark? Okay, Okay.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
The game is total number of surgeries during during JJ
Watt's football career. Total number. I know the answer, so
I can't give it out. But Dan, you're gonna go last, Fritzy.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I'm gonna go with my favorite number of eleven, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Eighteen, Seaton fifteen, damn nine procedures count. So it's total
number of surgeries and procedures.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Oh oh, okay.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
Say hold on now, I feel like we just added
perced So you were saying surgeries top surgeries and.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Procedure tough, guys don't have procedures. That's illegal procedure on
your part right there. Bringing the guests, all right, let's
bring in JJ Watt. How many surgeries and procedures did
you have while you were.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I got a few questions before I even answer that.
How does Paulie know the answer? Because I don't have
the answer. That's what I do here. I don't have
You can't possibly have the answer because I mean, there's
a few reasons why you can't.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But I it's it's significant. What number do you have, Palie?
Speaker 6 (16:19):
I have nine without breaking any hip.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Along way more than that.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Okay, okay, did you hide some procedures in surgeries? Is
that what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
No, not hidden, but like there'd be a scope in
the off season that's not reported anywhere. That nobody ever
knows about, you know, like that, just because it's in
the middle of the off season. What would you guess,
I mean, if you're talking like depends on what you
consider a procedure, like obviously, like I don't think like
PRP shots and things like that are no siegures. But
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I mean actually going into my body, it's it's it's
definitely double.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Digits, maybe like fifteen.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, I mean it's it's brutal.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I mean, I have a picture on my phone still
of when I broke my leg and they opened it up,
and I don't know why they showed me that picture.
I don't know why they to me. But you can
when you can look inside and see your own bone
and see all the vessels and everything and your muscles,
it's gonna make it squirmish, damn.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Okay, but you kept it. It's on your phone, so yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Mean it's a bad ass.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Can you hold it up and show us.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I literally don't know if it would be allowed on television.
It's it's a gaping hole about that big because they
take it and they put calipers on it, and they
spread your leg apart, and then they have to get
down to the bone, and so my bone was in
like it was shattered. So it was just dozens of pieces.
So they stick this huge metal plate up against it
and put nine screws in there, and still in there today.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I'm wondering your Hall of Fame bust. Can we do
the one where you got blood coming down your mind?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I hope so it'll be cool.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Now, do you have any control, any say in when
you go in what your bust looks like?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I have no idea. I have no idea how any
of that works. I'm not even. I'm not even. I
don't know how that works.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I think Peyton Manning had forehead approval like you.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, like you get to I assume you got to
be able to pick your picture right. You can't.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I don't think you can have accessories, and I feel
like blood would be an accessory.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
All Right, we have a poll question. Whose career would
you want? Yours or Clayton Kershaw's. He joins his.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
One championships warn championships. I go with Clayton.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You would go with Clayton? Yeah, okay, let's take three right,
Oh yeah, let's take away titles.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Okay, Well, then what what are you comparing?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Because he did it for a really long time at
a really really high level, so you would probably say
doing it longer is better. Baseball is a very long season,
one hundred and sixty two games. You're on the road
away from family a lot. Part of the reason I
retired was to be by family. So he's probably made
I mean baseball, he's probably made a quarter of a
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billion at.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Least he's made three to twenty Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
But he probably hasn't had double digit surgeries either, so
that's a plus.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I opened the show talking about this Kyler Murray situation
because I'm I'm baffled by this that it doesn't feel
like he's your franchise quarterback too much longer there in Arizona.
Now he's on the IR. Let me just start with
that question. How much does the player have to say
or input of going on the IR and not going
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on an IR.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I mean it, I would say they have some say
because it IR is like ken you play or not.
I mean there's you know, there's situations early in the
year training camp for you stash guys and things like that.
But I mean, especially in today's world where you can
come back off the IR after four weeks. It's it's
there's a part of that conversation is are you going
to be good in four weeks or not?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Or are you going to be good in less than
four weeks?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Okay, what do you think is going on with the
Cardinals and Cnamory?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I mean, I mean just literally looking at it from
an outside.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
First of all, I couldn't watch the game on Monday night,
so I don't know what that game looked like. But
it sounds like Jakobe played pretty well. But it's I mean,
it seems like from what I've seen what I've read,
that they're comfortable with with Pric playing quarterback and operating offense.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, but you got a backup making forty five million
dollars Atlanta does. Yeah, but that's awkward too.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I mean, there's a lot of awkward stuff in the NFL.
There's a whole lot of awkward stuff in the NFL.
I mean I think that they're also probably a coaching
staff who feels some pressure, like at some point, you
got to win football games. It can't be purely potential
for a coaching staff before you're the one on the
way out. So it becomes how do we win football games?
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Right now, and what do I think as my job
on the line? You know how it is, and it's
a cover of your ass. Society in this business and
you have to find a way to win football games
or you're going to be out the door and whatever
that takes. I mean, there's situations all over the league
where coaches are trying to do whatever's and gms are
trying to do whatever's best to keep them in that seat.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
The longest we're talking to JJ Watt, he'll be on
the booth the Jags and Texans. That's at one Eastern
on CBS. You were there for the Colts and the Steelers.
What stood out with the Colts that would make you
still believe that they are going to be there at
the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I mean, they fought back all the way to the end,
and in that nonside kick, which we all know is
not a real chance, but they fought back all the
way to the end, and even with six takeaways, they
were within the potential of one score at the end
of the game. So that fight and drive was there.
It's their first crew punch in the mouth and it
didn't go well. I mean, six takeaways and everything that
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came along with a you muff a punt and they
just ran into a bit of a buzz.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Saw on that day.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
And I watched their offense and the thing I see
with their offense is when they are on schedule and
when they are doing what they do best, which is
first down success leading to a very efficient drive, They're
unbelievable and so hard to stop. That game starts to
put just the slightest question in you of Okay, if
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they aren't on schedule, which for most teams is difficult,
and they have to drop back and teams kind of
just are going one dimensional at them, can they do that?
And that's what we'll have to see going forward. If
another team has a chance to punch them in the
mouth and cut that run game down the way the
Steelers did, can they pass their way out of it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
How's it been broadcasting a game your brother's playing in.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
It's been.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Honestly, it's not nearly as bad as I think people
think it would be. It's it's a job. Like it's
a job. You're up there, and I know how to
be professional. I know how to do my job. I'll
talk to him before the game. I talked to him
after the game, but during the game, like Ian handles
the play by play anyway, so I have like a
three or four second buffer when he makes a strip
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sack fumble where Ian is doing his job really well,
and then I break down the play and from the
fan reaction, I'm very appreciative of all the opposing fans
who have been so kind because I have consciously tried
to keep it extremely unbiased.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
The difference, and I think I know the answer. But
going out to a game as opposed to be in studio.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, I mean for me personally, like I missed the
guys in the studio, but I love being in the stadium.
I love the adrenaline, I love the atmosphere. I love
the unpredictability of your calling the game as it happens,
so you need to be on your toes. It's much
more kind of challenging for me. And it also during
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the week is much more like being a player. You're
watching more film, deeper, talking to coordinators.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I really like that.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, that's what I told Drew Brees because he was
going to be in studio with Football Night in America,
and I said, you got to be ready for it
because there's no energy there when you go to a game,
there's energy like it's tangible when you're like I feel this,
Like that's as close as you'll get to playing again.
And now I just saw where Drew is going to
be an analyst being out on the road with Fox.
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But that energy, that's as close as you can replicate
it to actually playing in a game.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Yeah, and like you said, like for for athletes who
have been in it before, it tricks you into getting
back into that mindset where you can get as close
to that flow state as possible where you're just letting
your instincts and everything take over, whereas kind of like
you said in the studio, you have to to manufacture
it for yourself a little bit more to get it going.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Best team you've seen this year is who.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
When the Colts offense is humming the Colts offense, for sure,
I would team as a whole. The Rams is very good.
We saw the Rams early on. The Rams are very good.
And again this is just teams that I've called this year.
We haven't called to the others, but that Colts offense. Man,
we watched them against the Chargers and it was play
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at will, like Tyler Warren running wide open, Jonathan Taylor
running down. They got Alec Pierce going like that offense
when it is at its best, is unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
You know, some people looked at the Jets and said
they did great at the trade deadline. What do you
think when you unload a couple of star players.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I think they got a good haul for what they
gave away. I think it's the question of what are
they going to do with that and what gives you
confidence in that because you gave a way young players
that you drafted with a very similar haul that you
just got.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
So, you know, I love seeing.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
The graphic that people just put out where like the
last time they had those three first round picks it
was you know, Breese Hall and saw it like and
you're like, okay, so you're giving away young talented players
to hopefully find more young talented players. I just don't
know where the what the plan is there, and where
the confidence should come in finding that success.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
That's what would make me nervous is when you know,
fans will say we got all these draft picks, and
I say, well, who's drafting? Because that's really the key
and your goal is to find players like Sauce Gardner
and Quinn Williams, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
That's that's my thing is like we can have you
got have all the draft picks in the world, A
Sauce Gardener and a Quinn Williams. Those are hard to
hit on, and you had two of them in your
building and now you're going to have to go out
and replicate it. But it goes very back to our
conversation from earlier. A GM can come in and say,
those weren't my guys. Now you've got to give me
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time to get my guys. Give me these draft picks
and you start. Now, maybe they do it, maybe it's
maybe it works incredibly well, but it's extremely hard to
hit in the draft.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Is there a quarterback you didn't get that you've seen
when you've gone to a game?
Speaker 3 (27:18):
What do you mean sacked? Oh? Pat? I've never I
never sacked Pat Malmes?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So, yeah, does he remind you of that?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
I saw him last summer and we talked about a
little bit. But now he he's good man, he's good Tom.
Tom likes to say that I never got him. We've
had this conversation one hundred times, but I got him
in the playoffs. It just doesn't count as as an
official sack.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
What about Rogers?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I got Rogers twice in one game.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I did the belt celebration after the first one, and
he threw six touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Over my head, So that was a mistake.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Who talked the most out of Mahomes, Brady and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Not a ton of talking, Not a ton of talking.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Rogers a little bit, Brady, if you got him fired
up like you could get you get him fired up.
Pat Pat wasn't didn't talk a whole lot. Now Andrew
luck talked a lot. But that was just nice, like
we would just have full blown conversations, just literal.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Like did it did it?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Still?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Did it sound like this?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Oh you're a great defensive end, high motor.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
What ahead? Nice keys man?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Well, he had a defensive mentality to playing offense. It
felt like he was the best man.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
I love playing Andrew like literally had the most respect
for him. Hit him probably harder than I've hit anybody
else besides Ryan Fitzpatrick, and every time he popped back up.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
What happened to Ryan Fitzpatrick?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I had a game where I had I got fifteen
quarterback hits, zero sacks, and I was just laying the
hammer time after time after time, and they were on
a two minute drive at the end of the game,
and I'm I'm swear I hit him four times in
a row, four knockdowns. Every time I was like, that's it,
He's not getting back up, and every time he popped
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back up. So we eventually were teammates after that, and
I shared those stories and I don't know what it is,
but that man, he's got a little he's got some
juice to his game.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I love I love fits well.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I remember Michael Strahan was telling me he had so
much respect for Tom Brady when they hit him in
that Super Bowl, like they they were, they dominated that
Super Bowl, that defensive one. He said, we hit him,
We hit him every time. He said he never complained.
He complained about his offensive line, but he never said
would just say good hit and get back up. But
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is that Is that more frustrating if a quarterback goes, hey,
good hit and he pops back up.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
It's no, because I don't want him to be hurt,
like that's like a common misconception. But it it's more
frustrating to me when he looks at the ref for
a flag because that does work, like the ref will
eventually throw that flag.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
So I don't want like I can't stand it when
they just I'd love it.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
I would respect a quarterback when he just pops up
and he appreciates that this is a violent game.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, but do you say like stomp being a wolff.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
No, you gotta be a real punk to get me
to say something like that. Like, there's there's some young
kids there. There are a couple of young kids who
later in my career, I'd hit him and they would whine,
and I'd be like, you don't have the right to
whine here, man, how's your soccer team?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
We're doing good, man, we're doing good. Espaniel is doing
really well.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
We're in six in La Liga and Burnley's currently out
of the relegation zone in the Premier League. Big match
coming up this weekend, so a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Is your son going to play football or soccer?
Speaker 4 (30:52):
We're definitely gonna have him in soccer to start, because
of the ball skills and the agility. But I mean,
let's be honest here, Dan, he's in the ninety nine
percentile for and wait, he's uh, he's not gonna have
the endurance to be out there running around for ninety
minutes on a pitch.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
He's a big boy.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Is he bench is he bench pressing?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
He does wheelbarrow walks right now, so he's big on
the wheelbarrow walks.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
So yeah, old old school. I like it. Hey, great
to talk to you. Safe travels and uh thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Thank you guys. Have a great day, miss y'all.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's JJ. He's got the uh Jags and the Texans
coming up. One of his old teams there had the
Colts and the Steelers and uh Burnley. Burnley is out
a relegation seat.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
And I think so.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Yeah, that was an Espanol hat that he was wearing too,
So he's he's got a little foot in Spain foot
in England. It's pretty good, It's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
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Speaker 2 (32:02):
Clayton Kershaw, the recently retired three time Cy Young winner
and future Hall of Famer. We spoke to him yesterday
and the first question I asked was how's retirement.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Day one? Pretty good? Yeah? So far, so good.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
You know what's gonna happen though, You know how your
body adapts to certain times of the year. Oh yeah,
you know, come February, you're gonna be bringing the kids outside,
You're gonna get loose, You're in a long tossing and
all of that. So get ready for that because you're
gonna you're gonna face that. Plus everybody's gonna be out
of the house and you're gonna be like, what am
(32:38):
I doing?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (32:40):
I everybody says, there are a lot of guys that
I talked to you said, opening day is the day where
you're like, man, I'm not there. You know, it's a
weird So I opening Day is going to be a
weird one. But to be fair, I haven't been at
spring training in a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I've kind of.
Speaker 11 (32:54):
Planned some surgeries pretty well, so kind of miss spring training,
So that'll be that won't be too new for me.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
What was this World Series like as opposed to the
other ones?
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yeah, I mean last year was really cool because we
got the parade.
Speaker 11 (33:08):
You know, I think, you know, after the COVID World
Series not getting to do the parade or anything, and
then getting to do that last year it was kind
of a celebration of almost two world series, you know,
and so that that was awesome. But for me personally
to be a part of this one more than I
was last year and to get to see you know,
(33:29):
just to feel feel a little bit more a part
of it. And then the parade this year was insane.
It was it was so much bigger, so much longer,
so many people, and that's just really special, you know,
your last one to get to kind of celebrate with
the fans and you know, tell them thank you, tell
them how much they you know, supported us and our
team and me personally for so long.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
And it was just so fun.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Man, it was so cool.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
The importance of having your kids at an age where
they can appreciate seeing dad out there. How important and
was that to you?
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Yeah, I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
You know.
Speaker 11 (34:02):
My oldest three I think will definitely, I don't know,
do you remember stuff when you're five? I think you do? Yeah,
my my it's close. But at least my oldest too,
I think, had a blast. You know, my oldest son,
Charlie got to be in the dug out a lot
this year, got to be in the you know, shag
BP do all the stuff, and so he was super invested.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
In it this year.
Speaker 11 (34:24):
And I'm thankful they'll remember me that I had a
job at some point. You know, it'll be good. It
was just it was so fun and memorable. And I
mean my wife rock stars. She's pregnant right now and
traveling from Toronto to Dallas and school back to LA
to Toronto.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
I mean, just doing it all.
Speaker 11 (34:44):
So it was It's good to be home and good
to get to celebrate with the fan too.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Have you seen the video of your wife in the
stands when you're on the mound.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Oh my god, she's not a reliever wife.
Speaker 11 (34:55):
Then she's a starter wife. That's just that's just too
much stress to not know when you're coming in and
to get to do all that.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
But yeah, I think she was. She was feeling it,
uh to say the least.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Okay, But are you nervous in that moment?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Yeah, I mean for sure. I think I think we
all are.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I don't know if you allow yourself to get like
you have to play a mind game that I got
to be confident. I can't have any doubt or be nervous.
Speaker 11 (35:24):
I think you got both though. I think it's not doubt,
like you're you're confident you can do your job. But
you know, warming up in the pen, hearing that phone
ring kind of all new stuff for me. It's like
that phone rings, it's like an adrenaline pump, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
And so.
Speaker 11 (35:40):
You know, all that running in, trying to feel your
legs and trying to execute pitches and all that. You know,
at the end of the day, I'm just so glad
I got that out because that was the last time
I ever pitched, and you know, it could have gone sideways.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
So I'm just glad.
Speaker 11 (35:55):
I'm just glad I got that lasted out, and I
thought it was gonna be a bigger out, but we
end up playing like seven more innings, you know, so
I think, uh, it's.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Just it was a crazy game.
Speaker 11 (36:05):
And like I said, last time, a Dodger stated to Fish,
it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Dave Roberts said that you were probably coming in in
game seven.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (36:15):
Yeah, So I had no idea there was one out.
So then Kirk grounded into that double play. I thought
I was coming in the game like tie game, Uh,
extra innings, I'm pitching with two outs, and I left
the up to bat and then Bardo, our bullpen coach,
just said, hey, we just want to.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
You know, I had no idea. I had no idea.
That was amazing though.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
So a delayed reaction.
Speaker 11 (36:43):
Yeah, I just I didn't believe at first, and then yeah,
I turned around, saw everybody out there, and ran out.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
There and got to celebrate again. Man, just amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Talking to the Dodgers Clayton Kersham no a former Dodger.
Clayton Kersham Dodger unemployed. What are you going to do
the rest of your life?
Speaker 5 (37:02):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 11 (37:03):
You know, I've got a lot of kids, so obviously
I'll do that for a while. And I love baseball.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
I do. I love baseball. I have a passion for it.
Speaker 11 (37:11):
I feel like I can help in some regard, in
some way, but I have no idea what that looks like.
I obviously don't, you know, feel the need or want
to travel too much right now. So you know, there's
some cush gigs out there, you know, some special assistant
jobs and different things like that that if the Dodgers
are gracious enough to let me do that at some point,
(37:32):
I think I'd definitely be interested in that. But you know,
we have a baby coming in December, and everybody says,
I have to figure out how to play golf, so
maybe I'll try that. I don't know, I really don't
have any idea. It's kind of nice, though, the no
plan plan.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
It's gotta be weird though. You're watching the ninth inning
from the bullpen. Yeah, yeah, so you don't even have comfort,
you don't have company. It's just you and the bullpen catcher.
I'm guessing.
Speaker 11 (37:59):
Yeah. I mean, you know, there's a few guys, a
few of us left down there. But hey, what an
amazing what Yama did? I mean, that was I don't
think I don't know if you'll ever see that again
in baseball. It is like a guy that pitched Game six,
come in and not just get one or two outs,
but go too. And I think it was two and
two thirds or something. So it just just incredible, superhuman
(38:23):
stuff from Yama. And there's a lot of guys that
went out of their comfort zones for us to win
this World Series. And I think that's what makes the
Dodgers so special.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Man.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
A lot of.
Speaker 11 (38:32):
Superstars, obviously, but a lot of guys willing to go
above and beyond to help us, which is really cool.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yamamoto. I said this to your manager, former manager. He
reminded me of Pedro Martinez, similar size. Yeah, and just
feels like he can throw every single day.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (38:49):
I mean I cannot believe what he did and how
I mean, I don't know how he felt the next day,
but for him to do that, man, just like and
he's you know, he's been on the appan his schedule,
you know, coming over from Japan, and then even this year,
you know, Doc protected him a lot, you know, basically
pitching on a weak rest for six days the whole time.
So for him with no days to go out there
(39:11):
and do it, I'm thankful for Yama.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
He got me one more World Series. So thank you Yama.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Did you ever pitch too, Otani?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
With the Angels, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (39:24):
Check the numbers, Dan, check the numbers. I never gave
up a hit to showmate, and I will have that
for the rest of my life.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I think he was like, oh for ten or eleven
or something.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Wow. Yeah, yeah, you don't rub that in, do you.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
I haven't told him yet. I didn't know how he
would take it, but.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I got the numbers. He's oh for eleven with four strikeouts.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Yeah, it feels good.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
He owned the greatest player in the history of the sport.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Yeah, it feels great. I'll take that all day.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Did anybody ever ask you how to pitch him knowing
your success?
Speaker 5 (39:58):
I mean guys asked me on our team.
Speaker 11 (40:00):
Obviously I would never say anything to anybody else, but
I think I just you can't throw middle speed pitches,
and unfortunately, now that's all I throw, is middle speed.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
I don't know if that end very well now, but man.
Speaker 11 (40:12):
It was like the slider change up mid eighties, upper eighties.
I don't care how good it is. I don't feel
confident throwing that stuff. So you gotta throw really hard
or throw soft.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Like okay, But at what point do you know I
can't do this. I can't fool people like I can't
be Clayton Krushel anymore.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Yeah, you know, I think over the course of this season,
I really started to feel it more like I was
able to pitch okay, you know, and I had a
decent season, which I'm super thankful for, and I was
healthy for it.
Speaker 11 (40:43):
But you know, sometimes you look up there and I
was throwing you know, eighty seven eighty eight mile an
hour fastballs, and I felt healthy, felt completely healthy, and
you know, I just it just felt like it was
the right time, Like this was not going to work
for that much longer. And so in the day and
age that we have now of velocity, like even ninety
(41:04):
one ninety two is not potentially enough, Like you can
get away with it as a starter if you know
what you're doing. But it just didn't really feel like
I had I had enough in the tank to do
it for one more year. And you know, Ellena, even
going into the season where like, hey, this kind of
feels like the last one, and so you know, this
(41:24):
last month, knowing that it was over and getting to
do this the way it was, just couldn't write a
better script.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Man, It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
If you were going to name your soon to be
born baby after one of your teammates, former teammates, who
would it be.
Speaker 11 (41:37):
Well, I'm having a girl, but if I was having
a boy, I guess the question is who do I
like the most man right now? Maybe Yoshi Nobu, maybe
just Yoshi right.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Yeah, yeah, you can go Yosh. I was a big
Mario Kart fan growing up.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Go Yoshi, Hey, congratulations, And I still go back. I
get people during COVID when you were in your office
and you were showing how you grip. I mean, you
were our first zoom guest and when you showed us
all of your pitches. I still have people saying how
much they appreciated that and learned from that. And I
(42:20):
always go back to that, because do you have a
baseball by you here?
Speaker 5 (42:26):
Yeah, give me fifteen seconds. Oh wait, nope, I got one,
got it.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Okay, give me the grip of your last pitch as
a major leaguer.
Speaker 11 (42:35):
All right, as a slider, I threw all sliders because
basically my fastball on the slider are the same pitch.
Speaker 9 (42:41):
So I just.
Speaker 11 (42:43):
So I just kind of did this. It's like a
forcing grip, but I just get the top. I think
this is like a I think he opened beer cans
with this.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
You might be using that a lot, Yeah I might.
Speaker 11 (42:55):
And then I just kind of my fingers so it's
it's literally like a fastball with a slight angle of
the fingers. And yeah, I threw that slider the most
of any pitch for the last few years and saved
my career.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Got to stick around a little longer.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Well, congrats, congrats with the baby coming up, and in retirement.
We appreciate your time, Clayton.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Thanks then always falling Man.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I appreciate it, Clayton Kershaw
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