November 8, 2025 • 40 mins
World Champion Dodgers Manager Dave Roberts joins the show still basking in the afterglow of their World Series win. Plus, co-authors of “Masters of the Game: A Conversational History of the NBA in 75 Legendary Players,” basketball historian Sam Smith & legendary NBA coach Phil Jackon drop by to talk about their new book. Newly retired Dodgers future Hall of Fame pitcher Clayton Kershaw talks about what he’s looking forward to in retirement and what he’ll miss from baseball, plus how he’s proud to have never given up a hit to Shohei Ohtani.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, look who's back, Dodger manager Dave Roberts. Another World
Series title. Didn't need to make a proclamation in spring training,
didn't have to do any of that stuff. Just an
easy seven games and there you are winning again. I
guess can you compare the back to back the different
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feelings that you had.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well, I'm glad your ho hum about it. It was
very difficult. Winning a championship is very difficult. Winning two
is even tougher. No, I mean, there's nothing like Game seven,
and a lot of things had happened. Guys stepped up,
and I'm just proud of the guys. There's a lot
of pressure points in that series, in the postseason and
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certainly in the World Series. But it certainly wasn't easy,
and yeah, we've done something that hadn't been done in
twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You look at pressure, and we could see pressure. It
was tangible when you're watching Game seven. But the pressure too,
You're supposed to win, expected to win by you know,
the media, of the you know, fans. It feels like
the difference in being an underdog in winning, like when
you won with the Red Sox as a player to
winning when you're the favorite, the different kind of pressures
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are feeling that you.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Have with that, Yeah, you know, I guess, you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I guess The thing about sports is, yeah, everyone's got opinions,
but you know, the David and Goliath narrative, fans, media
put things together that just aren't true, and to be
quite honest, people that have never been in the ring.
And the Blue Jays were a very good team. They
won the at least they won more baseball games than
we did. But we're Goliath, and so it was a
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great series and we were trying to win the series.
They were trying to win World Series. I don't think
he was pressure. I think that what happens is as athletes,
as teams, you have expectations and goals for yourself.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
And.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You know, you don't want more for yourself than I
think than fans.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Do.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You want to win, you expect to win. So I
don't think that our pressure or pressure from the fans
or media had any bearing on the game. We were
trying to win for each other in the city of
Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Give me the move that maybe you were going to
second guess yourself in Game seven and you didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Probably, Well, the easiest one is hitting for Miguel Ross.
He's a defensive guy. I inserted him in game six
to add some infusion and energy into our club.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
And yeah, that's that's probably the one.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
But you know, looking at the bench, it's tough to
pinch hit and anyone can say and you were probably
second guessing me saying you should hit for him, and
because the numbers say that, there's other guys that can
hit home runs in this but it's hard to come
off the bench. And I trusted my players, and you know,
he made me look good and he deserved that moment.
And in the postseason, what I have learned Dan is
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you know, it's not about the numbers. You got to
trust your players. And my job is to know the players.
That's my job, ultimately, that's my job. It's not to
know statistics. It's about to know the heartbeat of the player.
And I do believe that you know, to win eleven
or this year thirteen games in October, you've got to
trust your players, to know your players, and that's what
we did.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But so you're saying gut feeling still has a place
in the game. It feels like we're so attached to analytics.
How much of what you did in Game seven was
gut as opposed to analytics.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
It's all got.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I think that if you look back at twenty twenty
four in the postseason, it's the eye test, it's gut.
But people, if you look at twenty twenty, it's eye tests,
it's got. People can't get off the analytics for some reason.
So these are people that are just just stuck in
their ways and you're never going to change them.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
But if people that really want.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
To, that really watched the game and know the game,
then they can see that analytics had nothing. It's about,
you know, coaches trusting their players and players stepping up
in big moments.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
When you saw the collision in left center with Pios
and ky K.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
What I was a bird's r answer, and I was unbelievable.
You know, they both went after it. Kek was trying
to make his Willie Mays play. Pahes was just inserted
and just made a next level, big moment play. And
it's funny because uh key K laid down there for
dead and Pies asked me if he was okay.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
He says, forget that do you have the ball?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
And he said, yes, I do have the ball, and
he goes, He got up and ran into the dugout.
So it was it was but again, and it's like
Miguel Ross coming out of Game seven because he just
expended all energy. It's like, that's just what fans live for,
and that's what our players gave.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Both teams.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
The play at the plate. How close that was? Are
you ready then to ask for replay?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
That was like I was asking for replay right from
the get go. Or if they would have called it,
say for sure? And I was with Will Smith last
night and he goes, I honestly did not realize that
I took my foot off the plate to then have
the wherewithal to put it down. And that's the thing,
is that but even the play for me to take it,
to lose momentum and then to regain to make a
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good throw for Will to field it get his foot
back down. I mean, oh my god, it's a heartache series.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I'm talking to Dave Roberts, Dodger manager Yamamoto reminded me
of Pedro. Remind me of Pedro Martinez? Are they similar build,
similar size and get a very.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Similar build, very similar size.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
You know, obviously Pedro, you know, sort of a similar
mix if you say the split is Pedro's change up.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
And just same mindset.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You know, Pedro on game days, I've never seen he's
an assassin and Yamamoto is an assassin. What he did
is stuff like Pedro asked Sandy Kofasque asked, obviously.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
What mad bummed in I did.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And I don't know if it was twenty twelve or
twenty fourteen, one of those Giants years, but yeah, I mean,
this is the guy that, yeah, not physical, but his
mind Dan is just pretty spectacular.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But if you would have said, hey, beginning of the series,
a Japanese born player is going to win MVP.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Jo Hey all day, yeah, all day.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
But what did you learn about him in this world
series or in the playoffs that maybe you didn't know?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah okay, okay, yeah, not the World there is the playoffs.
So I actually I knew that he's a killer. I
knew it this guy, and he showed that, you know
this year. Having just a tremendous years being a stop
per force, pitching huge and big games, going complete game
doing what he did in Milwaukee was incredible, complete games,
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one run. I think the first yeah, gives up a
solo homer, a leadoff homer, then goes nine innings shut
after that, then the next game, complete game, and then
in Game three, eighteen innings, I think he was like
thirteenth inning.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
He's like, I'm ready to go down there.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I'm not going to let a position player pitch in
the game in a World Series game, and this is
a one day off.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
And so that showed me a lot. Freddy walks it off.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And then so yesterday or Game seven obviously was no surprise,
but to go three innings was incredible.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
But Otani and your you say him throughout the season
ramping him up. Was he coming in in game seven
or we started getting yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
No, no, because he started Game seven okay, and then
so once he was done, he gave us three innings,
and then I was like, you know what, I think
he just wasn't a sharp Get him off the pitching,
lock in on the hitting, and then we had some
rms behind him.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I thought the way you ramped him up the entire
season was interesting. You know, when you have that kind
of talent, but you know he's got two innings or
he's got three. Like you, you got to be careful
that you don't get greedy in a situation.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I guess like you do.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
And it was it's hard not to be greedy.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
But we went one inning, we remain steadfast one and
he won in two innings, two innings, three innings. And
then you know at the end that was the first
time because all year he had seven, eight, nine, ten
days of rest. So game seven was the first time
he ever went on three days rest. So that's why
you know, this guy's coming off to Tommy Johns. He is,
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he's our team MVP, and so he's two players and
one so we couldn't get greed with him. So three days.
It wasn't terribly sharp. He gave us three nings. That
was that was plenty.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Clayton Kershaw is joining us tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
What should I bring up to him?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Oh my gosh, you.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Know, I think was going in Game seven?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
He was it was either going to be the next
hitter or certainly if they tied it up, if Kirk
tied it up, right there, Kirk Clayton was going to
take the next hitting.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
How nervous were you when he was on the mound
when he got that.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I was nervous in that game Game three, Game three,
I bring him in in a basis loaded situation, and
it goes back to again, it goes back to trust
your players. Clayton and I have been through so much
in my ten years with him, eighteen years obviously in
his career, and we've had some loads, certainly together, and
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then we had some highs. But again, I'm gonna if
it's going to go down, I'm gonna I'm gonna bet
on playing Kershaw and I've proved that time.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
And time again.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
How was the celebration?
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Oh so last year was insane.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
We didn't get it in twenty twenty so sort of
kind of butted up together in twenty four. But last
yesterday's parade or two days agost parade was It was
the best.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
The bet they did.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
They went up themselves, more people, a longer parade route.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Players were just overjoyed. It was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Damn, you're getting used to this.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I would say it's it's I enjoy it. I wouldn't
say get used to it. We already talked about the
players already talked about a three pt I talked about
a three peat. So I'm not making any guarantees, but
I already cleared it with pat Riley on the three
p Term, so we're excited.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I just think with us, you got to find some carrot.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It's like we started out in South Korean twenty four,
finished in the Bronx, started out in Tokyo, finish in Canada,
and so we've had the longest season, the shortest offseason
of anyone, travel the most mile. So you've got to
have some carrot to keep our guys focused and motivated.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
So the three Peter is it for us?
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I mean you should. You want to win, you expect
to win.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
That's right, That's absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Congrats, congrat Thank you, Dan, I appreciate you man. All right,
enjoy your offseason, all.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Right, take care and tell Clayton I said hello tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Alrighty, that's Dave Roberts did it again.
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Speaker 2 (12:15):
Are we gonna play the JJ Watten game before we
bring on JJ Watt Pauline.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
We have to play it and have him give the answer.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Okay, okay, are you ready?
Speaker 6 (12:23):
You tick markin?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
The game is total number of surgeries during during JJ
Watt's football career. Total number. I know the answer, so
I can't give it out. But Dan, you're gonna go last, Fritzy.
I'm gonna go with my favorite number of eleven Marvin eighteen,
Seaton fifteen, Dan nine procedures count. So it's total number
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of surgeries and procedures.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh oh okay, say hold on now, I feel like
we just add. You were saying surgery top surgeries and
proceed tough.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Guys don't have procedures.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
That's illegal procedure on your part right there?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Bringing the guests, all right, let's bring in.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
JJ want how many surgeries and procedures did you have
while you were playing?
Speaker 8 (13:09):
I got a few questions before I even answer that.
How does Paulie know the answer? Because I don't have
the answer. That's what I do here.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I don't have the You can't.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
Possibly have the answer because I mean there's a few
reasons why you can't. But I it's it's significant. What
number do you have, Paulie?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I have?
Speaker 6 (13:29):
I have nine without breaking.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Any hip along way more than that.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Okay, okay, did you hide some procedures in surgeries? Is
that what you're saying?
Speaker 8 (13:38):
No, not hidden, but like there'd be a scope in
the off season that's not reported anywhere that nobody ever
knows about, you know, like that just because it's in
the middle of the off season.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
What would you guess?
Speaker 8 (13:50):
I mean, if you're talking like depends on what you
consider a procedure, like obviously, like I don't think like
PRP shots and things like that are no siegures. But
I mean actually going into my body, it's it's it's
definitely double digits, maybe like fifteen.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, I mean it's it's brutal.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
I mean I have a picture on my phone still
of when I broke my leg and they opened it up.
And I don't know why they showed me that picture.
I don't know why they sent it to me. But
you can when you can look inside and see your
own bone and see all the vessels and everything and
your muscles, it's it'll make it squirmish, damn.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, but you kept it. It's on your phone, so.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, I mean it's a bad ass.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You can you hold it up and show us.
Speaker 8 (14:43):
I literally don't know if it would be allowed on television.
It's it's a gaping hole about that big because they
take it and they put calipers on it, and they
spread your leg apart, and then they have to get
down to the bone. And so my bone was in
like it was shattered, so it was just dozens of pieces.
So they stick this huge metal plate up again instant
and put nine screws in there, and still in there today.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I'm wondering your Hall of Fame bust. Can we do
the one where you've got blood coming down your mind?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I hope so that'll be cool.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Now, do you have any control, any say in when
you go in what your bust looks like?
Speaker 8 (15:18):
I have no idea, I have no idea how any
of that works. I'm not even. I'm not even. I
don't know how that works.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I think Peyton Manning had forehead approval, like you.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
Know, yeah, like you get to I assume you got
to be able to pick your picture, right, you can't.
I don't think you can have accessories, and I feel
like blood would be an accessory.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
All right, we have a poll question, whose career would
you want? Yours or Clayton Kershaw's. He joins his late
one championships warn championships.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I go with Clayton.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
You would go with Clayton. Yeah, okay, let's take three right,
Oh yeah, let's take away titles.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Okay, Well, then what what are you comparing? Because he
did it.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
For a really long time at a really really high level,
so you would probably say doing it longer is better.
Baseball is a very long season, one hundred and sixty
two games. You're on the road away from family.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
A lot. Part of the reason I retired was to
be by family.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
So he's probably made I mean baseball, he's probably made
a quarter of a billion, at.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Least, he's made three twenty oh yeah, nice, But he.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
Probably hasn't had double digit surgeries either, So that's a plus.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I opened the show talking about this Kyler Murray situation
because I'm I'm baffled by this that it doesn't feel
like he's your franchise quarterback too much longer there in Arizona.
Now he's on the IR. Let me just start with
that question. How much does the player have to say
or input of going on the IR not going on
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an IR?
Speaker 8 (17:00):
I mean it, I would say they have some say
because it IR is like ken you play or not.
I mean there's you know, there's situations early in the
year in training camp for you stash guys and things
like that.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
But I mean, especially in today's.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
World where you can come back off the IR after
four weeks, it's it's there's a part of that conversation
is are you going to be good in four weeks
or not? Or are you going to be good in
less than four weeks?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
What what do you think is going on with the
Cardinals and contamory?
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I mean, I mean just literally looking at it from
an outside.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
First of all, I couldn't watch the game on Monday night,
so I don't know what that game looked like, but
it sounds like Jakobe played pretty well.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
But it's I.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
Mean, it seems like from what I've seen, what I've
read that they are comfortable with with Percte playing quarterback
and operating offense.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, but you got to back up making forty five
million dollars and it does. Yeah, but that's awkward too.
I mean there's a lot of awkward stuff in the NFL.
There's a whole lot of off stuff in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
I mean, I think that they're also probably a coaching
staff who feels some pressure, like at some point, you
got to win football games. It can't be purely potential
for a coaching staff before you're the one on the
way out. So it becomes how do we win football
games right now? And what do I think as my
job on the line. You know how it is, and
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it's a cover of your ass society in this business,
and you have to find a way to win football
games or you're going to be out the door and
whatever that takes. I mean, there's situations all over the
league where coaches are trying to do whatever's and gms
are trying to do whatever's best to keep them in
that seat.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The longest we're talking to JJ Watt he'll be on
the booth the Jags and Texans. That's at one Eastern
on CBS. You were there for the Colts and the Steelers.
What stood out with the Colts that would make you
still believe that they are going to be there at
the end of the season.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
I mean, they fought back all the way to the
end and that non side kick to which we all
know is not a real chance, but they fought back
all the way to the end, and even with six takeaways,
they were within the potential of one score at the
end of the game. So that fight and drive was there.
It's their first crew punch in the mouth, and it
didn't go well. I mean, six takeaways and everything that
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came along with a muff a punt and they just
ran into a.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Bit of a buzz saw on that day.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
And I watched their offense and the thing I see
with their offense is when they are on schedule and
when they are doing what they do best, which is
first down success leading to a very efficient drive, they're
unbelievable and so hard to stop. That game starts to
put just the slightest question in you of Okay, if
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they aren't on schedule, which for most teams is difficult
and they have to drop back and teams kind of
just are going one dimensional at them. Can they do that?
And that's what we'll have to see going forward. If
another team has a chance it's to punch him in
the mouth and gout that run game down the way
the Steelers did. Can they pass their way out of it?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
How's it been broadcasting a game in which your brother's
playing in Oh, it's been.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Honestly, it's not nearly as bad as I think.
Speaker 8 (20:13):
People think it would be. It's it's a job. Like
it's a job. You're up there, and I know how
to be professional. I know how to do my job.
I'll talk to him before the game. I talked to
him after the game, but during the game, like Iron
handles the play by play anyway, so I have like
a three or four second buffer when he makes a
strip sack fumble where Ian is doing his job really well,
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and then I break down the play and from the
fan reaction, I'm very appreciative of all the opposing fans
who have been so kind because I have consciously tried
to keep it extremely unbiased.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
The difference, and I think I know the answer but
going out to a game as opposed to be in studio.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
Yeah, I mean for me personally, like I missed the
guys in the studio, But I love being in the stadium.
I love the adrenaline, I love the atmosphere. I love
the unpredictability of your following the game as it happens,
so you need to be on your toes. It's much
more kind of challenging for me. And it also during
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the week is much more like being a player. You're
watching more film, deeper, talking to coordinators.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I really like that.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, that's what I told Drew Brees because he was
going to be in studio with Football Night America, and
I said, you got to be ready for it because
there's no energy there when you go to a game.
There's energy, like it's tangible when you're like I feel this,
Like that's as close as you'll get to playing again.
And now I just saw where Drew is going to
be an analyst being out on the road with Fox.
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But that energy, that's as close as you can replicate
it to actually playing in a game.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Yeah, And like you said, like for for athletes who
have been in it before, it tricks you into getting
back into that mindset where you can get as close
to that flow state as possible, where you're just letting
your instincts and everything take over, whereas kind of like
you said in the studio, you have to manufacture it
for yourself a little bit more to get it going.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Best team you've seen this year is who.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
When the Colts offense is humming the Colts offense for sure,
team as a whole, the Rams is very good. We
saw the Rams early on. The Rams are very good.
And again this is just teams that I've called this year.
We haven't called in the others, but that Colts offense. Man,
we watch them against the Chargers and it was play
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at will, like Tyler Warren running wide open, Jonathan Taylor
running down, they got Alec Pierce going like That offense
when it is at its best is unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You know, some people looked at the Jets and said
they did great at the trade deadline. What do you
think when you unload a couple of star players.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
I think they got a good haul for what they
gave away.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I think it's the question of what are they going
to do with that? And what gives you confidence in that?
Speaker 8 (23:07):
Because you gave away young players that you drafted with
a very similar haul.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
That you just got.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
So you know, I love seeing the graphic that people
just put out where like the last time they had
those three first round picks it was you know Breecee Hall.
I think saw it like and you're like, okay, so
you're giving away young talented players to hopefully find more
young talented players. Yeah, I just don't know where the
what the plan is there, and where the confidence should
come in finding that success.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, that's what would make me nervous is when you know,
fans will say we got all these draft picks and
I say, well, who's drafting? Because that's really the key,
and your goal is to find players like Sauce Gardner
and Quinn Williams.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Is't this That's That's my thing, is like we can
have you got all the draft picks in the world,
a Sauce Gardener and a Quinn Williams. Those are hard
to hit and you had two of them in your
building and now you're going to have to go out
and replicate it. But it goes very back to our
conversation from earlier. A GM can come in and say
those weren't my guys. Now, you've got to give me
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time to get my guys. Give me these draft picks
and you start. Now, maybe they do it, maybe it's
maybe it works incredibly well, but it's extremely hard to
hit in the draft.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Is there a quarterback you didn't get that you've seen
when you've gone to a game?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
What do you mean sacked? Oh? Pat?
Speaker 8 (24:30):
I've never I never sacked Pat Malmes, So yeah, does
he remind you of that?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I saw him last summer and we talked about a
little bit.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
But now he's good Man, he's good Tom. Tom likes
to say that I never got him. We've had this
conversation one hundred times. But I got him in the playoffs.
It just doesn't counts as an official sack.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
What about Rogers?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I got Rogers twice in one game.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
I did the belt celebration after the first one, and
he threw six touchdowns over my head.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
So that was a mistake.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Who talked the most out of Mahomes, Brady and Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Not a ton of talking, Not a ton of talking.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
Rogers a little bit, Brady, if you got him fired
up like you could get you get him fired up.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Pat. Pat wasn't didn't talk a whole lot. Now Andrew
Luck talked a.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
Lot, but that was just nice, like we would just
have full blown conversations, just literal.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Like did it did it still? Did it sound like this?
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Oh, you're a great defensive end, high motor, what.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Ahead, key man?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Well, he had a defensive mentality to playing offense.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
It felt like he was the best man.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
I love playing Andrew like literally had the most respect
for him. Hit him probably harder than I've hit anybody
else besides Ryan Fitzpatrick, and every time he popped back up.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
What happened to Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 8 (26:02):
I had a game where I had I got fifteen
quarterback hits, zero sacks, and I was just laying the
hammer time after time after time, and they were on
a two minute drive at the end of the game
and I'm swear I hit him four times in a row,
four knockdowns. Every time I was like, that's it, he's
not getting back up, and every time he popped back up.
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So we have actually were teammates after that, and I
shared those stories and I don't know what it is,
but that man, he's got a little he's got some
juice to his game.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I love it. I love fits well.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I remember Michael Strahan was telling me he had so
much respect for Tom Brady when they hit him in
that super Bowl, like they they were, they dominated that
super Bowl, that defensive one. He said, we hit him,
We hit him every time. He said he never complained.
He complained about his offensive line, but he never said
you would just say, good hit and get back up.
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But that is that more frustrating If a quarterback goes
he good hit, pops back.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
Up, it's no because I don't want him to be hurt,
like that's like a communisconception. But it's more frustrating to
me when he looks at the ref for a flag,
because that does work, like the ref will eventually throw
that flag.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
So I don't want like I can't stand it when
they just I'd love it.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
I would respect a quarterback when he just pops up
and he appreciates that this is a violent game.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Okay, but do you say like stump.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Being a wolves.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
Nah, you gotta be a real punk to get me
to say something like that.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Like there's there's some young kids there. There are a
couple of young kids.
Speaker 8 (27:36):
Who later in my career, I'd hit him and they
would whine, and I'd be like, you don't have the right.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
To whine here, man.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
How's your soccer team? We're doing good, man, we're doing good.
Espaniel's doing really well. We're in six in La Liga
and Burnley's currently out of the relegation zone in the
Premier League.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Big match coming up this weekend, so a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Is your son going to play football or soccer?
Speaker 8 (28:01):
We're definitely gonna have him in soccer to start, because
of the ball skills and the agility. But I mean,
let's be honest here, Dan, he's in a ninety nine
percentile for height and weight.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
He's uh, he's not gonna have the.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Endurance to be out there running around for ninety minutes
on a pitch.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
He's a big boy.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Is he bench is he bench pressing?
Speaker 8 (28:19):
He does wheelbarrow walks right now, so he's big on
the wheelbarrow walks.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So yeah, old old school.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Great to talk to you, Safe travels, and uh, thanks
for joining us.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Thank you guys. Have a great day, miss y'all.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
That's a JJ. He's got the uh Jags and the
Texans coming up. One of his old teams there had
the Colts and the Steelers and uh Burnley. Burnley is
out a relegation Seaton, I think so. Yeah. That was
an Espanol hat that he was wearing too, So he's
he's got a little foot in Spain foot in England.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
It's pretty good. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
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Speaker 2 (29:10):
Clayton Kershaw, the recently retired three time Cy Young winner
and future Hall of Famer. We spoke to him yesterday
and the first question I asked was, how's retirement.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Day one? Pretty good? Yeah, so far, so good.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You know what's gonna happen though, You know how your
body adapts to certain times of the year. Oh yeah,
you know, come February, you're gonna be bringing the kids outside,
You're gonna get loose, You're in a long tossing and
all of that. So get ready for that because you're
gonna face that. Plus everybody's gonna be out of the
house and you're gonna be like, what am I doing?
Speaker 9 (29:48):
Yeah, everybody says there are a lot of guys that
I talked to you said, Opening day is the day
where you're like, man, I'm not there. You know, it's
a weird. So I Opening Day is gonna be a
weird one. But to be fair, I haven't been in
spring training in a couple of years. I've kind of
planned some surgeries pretty well, kind of missed spring training,
So that'll be that won't be too new for me.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
What was this World Series like as opposed to the
other ones.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
Yeah, I mean last year was really cool because we
got the parade, you know, I think you know, after
the COVID World Series not getting to do the parade
or anything, and then getting to do that last year.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
It was kind of a celebration of almost two.
Speaker 9 (30:26):
World series, you know, and so that that was awesome.
But for me personally to be a part of this
one more than I was last year and to get
to see you know, just to feel feel a little
bit more a part of it, and then the parade
this year was insane. It was it was so much bigger,
so much longer, so many people, and that's just really special.
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You know, your last one to get to kind of
celebrate with the fans and you know, tell them thank you,
tell them how much they you know, supported us and
our team and me personally for so long.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
And it was just so fun. Man, it was so cool.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
The importance of having your kids at an age where
they can appreciate seeing dad out there.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
How important was that to you? Yeah, I'm thankful for that.
You know. My oldest three, I think will definitely.
Speaker 9 (31:13):
I don't know, do you remember stuff when you're five?
I think you do. Yeah, my my it's close. But
at least my.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Oldest too, I think, had a blast.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
You know, my oldest son, Charlie got to be in
the dugout a lot this year, got to be in
the you know, shag BP do all the stuff, and
so he was super invested in.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
It this year.
Speaker 9 (31:33):
And I'm thankful they'll remember me that I had a
job at some point.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
You know, it'll be good. It was just it was
so fun and memorable.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
And I mean my wife rock stars, she's pregnant right
now and traveling from Toronto to Dallas and school back
to LA to Toronto, I.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Mean, just doing it all.
Speaker 9 (31:52):
So it was it's good to be home and good
to get to celebrate with the fans.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Have you seen the video of your wife and this
stands when you're on the mound. Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
She's not a reliever wife, Dan, She's a starter wife.
Speaker 9 (32:07):
That's just that's just too much stress to not know
when you're coming in and to get to do all that.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
But yeah, I think she was. She was feeling it,
uh to say the least.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Okay, but are you nervous in that moment?
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah, I mean for sure. I think I think we
all are.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I don't know if you allow yourself to get like
you have to play a mind game that I got
to be confident. I can't have any doubt or be nervous.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I think you have.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
Both, though I think it's not doubt, like you you're
confident you can do your job. But you know, warming
up in the pen, hearing that phone ring kind of
all new stuff for me.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
It's like that phone rings it's like an adrenaline pump,
you know, And so you know, all that running in, trying.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
To feel your legs and trying to execute pitches and
all that. You know, at the end of the day,
I'm just so glad I got that out because that
was the last time I ever pitched, and.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
You know, it could have gone sideways. So I'm just glad.
Speaker 9 (33:04):
I'm just glad I got that last out and I
thought it was going to be a bigger out, but
we ended up playing like seven more innings.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
You know, so I think, uh, it's just it.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
Was a crazy game. And like I said last time,
a Dodger stated and fish it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Dave Roberts said that you were probably coming in in
game seven.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yeah. Yeah, so I had no idea there was one out.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
So when Kirk grounded into that double play, I thought
I was coming in the game like tie game, Uh,
extra innings. I'm pitching with two outs, and I left
you up to bat, and then Bardo, our bullpen coach,
just said, hey, we just want to you know.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
I had no idea, no idea. That was amazing though.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
So it's a delayed reaction.
Speaker 9 (33:52):
Yeah, I just I didn't believe in my first and
then yeah, I turned around, saw everybody out there and
ran out.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
There and got to celebrate again. Man, just amazing.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Talking to the Dodgers Clayton Kershaw no former Dodger Clayton Kershaw, yeah,
or Dodger unemployed. What are you going to do the
rest of your life?
Speaker 9 (34:11):
I don't know, man, you know, I've got a lot
of kids, so obviously I'll do that for a while.
And I love baseball.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I do. I love baseball. I have a passion for it.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
I feel like I can help in some regard, in
some way, but I have no idea what that looks like.
I obviously don't, you know, feel the need or want
to travel too much right now. So you know, there's
some cush gigs out there, you know, some special assistant
jobs and different things like that that if the Dodgers
are gracious enough to let me do that at some point,
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I think I'd definitely be interested in that. But you know,
we have a baby coming in December, and everybody says
I have to figure out how to play golf, so
maybe I'll try that.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I don't know. I really don't have any idea. It's
kind of nice, though, the no plan plan.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's kind of be weird though. You're watching the ninth
inning from the bullpen. Yeah, yeah, so you don't even
have comfort, you don't have company. It's just you and
the bullpen catcher. I'm guessing. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
I mean, you know, there's a few guys, a few
of us left down there. But hey, what an amazing
what Yama did. I mean, that was I don't think.
I don't know if you'll ever see that again in baseball.
It's like a guy that pitched Game six, come in
and not just get one or two outs, but go
too and I think it was two and two thirds
or something. So it's just just incredible, superhuman.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Stuff from Yama.
Speaker 9 (35:33):
And there's a lot of guys that went out of
their comfort zone for us to win this World Series.
And I think that's what makes the Dodgers so special.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Man.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
A lot of superstars.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
Obviously, but a lot of guys willing to go above
and beyond to help us, which.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Is really cool.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yamamoto, I said this to your manager, former manager. He
reminded me of Payedro Martinez, similar size and just feels
like he can throw every single day.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
Yeah, I mean, I cannot believe what he did and
how I mean, I don't know how he felt the
next day for him to do that. Man, just like
and he's you know, he's been on the Japanese schedule,
you know, coming over from Japan, and then even this year,
you know, Doc protected him a lot, you know, basically
pitching on a weak rest for six days.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
The whole time.
Speaker 9 (36:17):
So for him with no days to go out there
and do it, I'm thankful for Y'ama.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
He got me one more World Series. So thank you Yama.
It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Did you ever pitch to Otani? Yeah with the Angels.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (36:33):
Check the numbers. Damn check the numbers. I never gave
up a hit to show me, and I will have
that for the rest of my life. I think he
was like, oh for ten or eleven or something.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, yeah, you don't rub that in, do you.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I haven't told him yet. I didn't know how he
would take it.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
But I got the numbers. He's oer for eleven with
four strikeouts.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah it feels good.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
He owned the greatest player in the history of the sport.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah it feels great. I'll take that all day.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Did anybody ever ask you how to pitch him knowing
your success?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
I mean guys asked me on our team.
Speaker 9 (37:09):
Obviously, I would never say anything to anybody else, but
I think I just you can't throw middle speed pitches.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
And unfortunately now that's all I throw is middle speed.
I don't know if that would have done very well.
Speaker 9 (37:19):
Now, man, those like the slider change up mid eighties
upper eighties. I don't care how good it is. I
don't feel confident throwing that stuff. So you got to
throw really hard or throw soft.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Like okay, But at what point do you know I
can't do this. I can't fool people like I can't
be Clayton Krushel anymore.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 9 (37:41):
Think over the course of this season, I really started
to feel it more like I was able to pitch okay,
you know, and had a decent season, which I'm super
thankful for, and I was healthy for it. But you know,
sometimes you look up there and I was throwing you know,
eighty seven eighty eight mile an hour fastballs, and I
felt healthyletely healthy, and you know, it just it just
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felt like it was the right time, Like this was
not going to work for that much longer. And so
in the day and age that we have now of velocity,
like even ninety one ninety two is not potentially enough,
like you can get away with it as a starter
if you know what you're doing. But it just didn't
really feel like I had I had enough in the
tank to do it for.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
One more year.
Speaker 9 (38:25):
And you know, Ellen and I even going into the
season where like, hey, this kind of feels like the
last one.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
And so.
Speaker 9 (38:32):
You know this last month, knowing that it was over
and getting to do this the way it was, just
couldn't write a better script.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Man, is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
If you were going to name your soon to be
born baby after one of your teammates, former teammates, who
would it be.
Speaker 9 (38:46):
Well, I'm having a girl, but if I was having
a boy, I guess the question is who do I
like the most man?
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Right now? Maybe Yoshinobu.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Just Yoshi, right, yeah, yeah, you go Yoshi.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I was a big Mario Kart fan growing up. You go, Yoshi.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Hey, congratulations, And I still go back. I get people
during COVID when you were in your office and you
were showing how you grip. I mean you were our
first zoom guest and when you showed us all of
your pitches. I still have people saying how much they
appreciated that and learned from that. And I always go
back to that, because do you have a baseball by
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you here?
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Yeah? Give me fifteen seconds. Oh wait, nope, I got one,
got it?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Okay, give me the grip of your last pitch as
a major leaguer.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
All right, I was a slider.
Speaker 9 (39:45):
I threw all sliders because basically my fastball on their
slider are the same pitch.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
So I just.
Speaker 9 (39:51):
So I just kind of did this. It's like a
four seing grip, but I just get the top. I
think this is like a I think he opened beer
cans with this.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You might be using that a lot, Yeah, I might.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
And then I just kind of angle my fingers so
it's it's literally like a fastball with a slight angle
of the fingers and uh yeah, I threw that slider
the most of any pitch for the last few years
and saved my career.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Got to stick around a little longer.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Well, congrats, congrats with the baby coming up and in retirement.
We appreciate your time, Clayton.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Thanks man always full man. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Clayton Kershaw
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, look who's back, Dodger manager Dave Roberts. Another World
Series title. Didn't need to make a proclamation in spring training,
didn't have to do any of that stuff. Just an
easy seven games and there you are winning again. I
guess can you compare the back to back the different
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feelings that you had.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well, I'm glad your ho hum about it. It was
very difficult. Winning a championship is very difficult. Winning two
is even tougher. No, I mean, there's nothing like Game seven,
and a lot of things had happened. Guys stepped up,
and I'm just proud of the guys. There's a lot
of pressure points in that series, in the postseason and
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certainly in the World Series. But it certainly wasn't easy,
and yeah, we've done something that hadn't been done in
twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You look at pressure, and we could see pressure. It
was tangible when you're watching Game seven. But the pressure too,
You're supposed to win, expected to win by you know,
the media, of the you know, fans. It feels like
the difference in being an underdog in winning, like when
you won with the Red Sox as a player to
winning when you're the favorite, the different kind of pressures
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are feeling that you.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Have with that, Yeah, you know, I guess, you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I guess The thing about sports is, yeah, everyone's got opinions,
but you know, the David and Goliath narrative, fans, media
put things together that just aren't true, and to be
quite honest, people that have never been in the ring.
And the Blue Jays were a very good team. They
won the at least they won more baseball games than
we did. But we're Goliath, and so it was a
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great series and we were trying to win the series.
They were trying to win World Series. I don't think
he was pressure. I think that what happens is as athletes,
as teams, you have expectations and goals for yourself.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
And.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You know, you don't want more for yourself than I
think than fans.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Do.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You want to win, you expect to win. So I
don't think that our pressure or pressure from the fans
or media had any bearing on the game. We were
trying to win for each other in the city of
Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Give me the move that maybe you were going to
second guess yourself in Game seven and you didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Probably, Well, the easiest one is hitting for Miguel Ross.
He's a defensive guy. I inserted him in game six
to add some infusion and energy into our club.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
And yeah, that's that's probably the one.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
But you know, looking at the bench, it's tough to
pinch hit and anyone can say and you were probably
second guessing me saying you should hit for him, and
because the numbers say that, there's other guys that can
hit home runs in this but it's hard to come
off the bench. And I trusted my players, and you know,
he made me look good and he deserved that moment.
And in the postseason, what I have learned Dan is
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you know, it's not about the numbers. You got to
trust your players. And my job is to know the players.
That's my job, ultimately, that's my job. It's not to
know statistics. It's about to know the heartbeat of the player.
And I do believe that you know, to win eleven
or this year thirteen games in October, you've got to
trust your players, to know your players, and that's what
we did.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But so you're saying gut feeling still has a place
in the game. It feels like we're so attached to analytics.
How much of what you did in Game seven was
gut as opposed to analytics.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
It's all got.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I think that if you look back at twenty twenty
four in the postseason, it's the eye test, it's gut.
But people, if you look at twenty twenty, it's eye tests,
it's got. People can't get off the analytics for some reason.
So these are people that are just just stuck in
their ways and you're never going to change them.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
But if people that really want.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
To, that really watched the game and know the game,
then they can see that analytics had nothing. It's about,
you know, coaches trusting their players and players stepping up
in big moments.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
When you saw the collision in left center with Pios
and ky K.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
What I was a bird's r answer, and I was unbelievable.
You know, they both went after it. Kek was trying
to make his Willie Mays play. Pahes was just inserted
and just made a next level, big moment play. And
it's funny because uh key K laid down there for
dead and Pies asked me if he was okay.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
He says, forget that do you have the ball?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
And he said, yes, I do have the ball, and
he goes, He got up and ran into the dugout.
So it was it was but again, and it's like
Miguel Ross coming out of Game seven because he just
expended all energy. It's like, that's just what fans live for,
and that's what our players gave.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Both teams.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
The play at the plate. How close that was? Are
you ready then to ask for replay?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
That was like I was asking for replay right from
the get go. Or if they would have called it,
say for sure? And I was with Will Smith last
night and he goes, I honestly did not realize that
I took my foot off the plate to then have
the wherewithal to put it down. And that's the thing,
is that but even the play for me to take it,
to lose momentum and then to regain to make a
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good throw for Will to field it get his foot
back down. I mean, oh my god, it's a heartache series.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I'm talking to Dave Roberts, Dodger manager Yamamoto reminded me
of Pedro. Remind me of Pedro Martinez? Are they similar build,
similar size and get a very.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Similar build, very similar size.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
You know, obviously Pedro, you know, sort of a similar
mix if you say the split is Pedro's change up.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
And just same mindset.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You know, Pedro on game days, I've never seen he's
an assassin and Yamamoto is an assassin. What he did
is stuff like Pedro asked Sandy Kofasque asked, obviously.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
What mad bummed in I did.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And I don't know if it was twenty twelve or
twenty fourteen, one of those Giants years, but yeah, I mean,
this is the guy that, yeah, not physical, but his
mind Dan is just pretty spectacular.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But if you would have said, hey, beginning of the series,
a Japanese born player is going to win MVP.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Jo Hey all day, yeah, all day.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
But what did you learn about him in this world
series or in the playoffs that maybe you didn't know?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah okay, okay, yeah, not the World there is the playoffs.
So I actually I knew that he's a killer. I
knew it this guy, and he showed that, you know
this year. Having just a tremendous years being a stop
per force, pitching huge and big games, going complete game
doing what he did in Milwaukee was incredible, complete games,
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one run. I think the first yeah, gives up a
solo homer, a leadoff homer, then goes nine innings shut
after that, then the next game, complete game, and then
in Game three, eighteen innings, I think he was like
thirteenth inning.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
He's like, I'm ready to go down there.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I'm not going to let a position player pitch in
the game in a World Series game, and this is
a one day off.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
And so that showed me a lot. Freddy walks it off.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And then so yesterday or Game seven obviously was no surprise,
but to go three innings was incredible.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
But Otani and your you say him throughout the season
ramping him up. Was he coming in in game seven
or we started getting yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
No, no, because he started Game seven okay, and then
so once he was done, he gave us three innings,
and then I was like, you know what, I think
he just wasn't a sharp Get him off the pitching,
lock in on the hitting, and then we had some
rms behind him.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I thought the way you ramped him up the entire
season was interesting. You know, when you have that kind
of talent, but you know he's got two innings or
he's got three. Like you, you got to be careful
that you don't get greedy in a situation.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I guess like you do.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
And it was it's hard not to be greedy.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
But we went one inning, we remain steadfast one and
he won in two innings, two innings, three innings. And
then you know at the end that was the first
time because all year he had seven, eight, nine, ten
days of rest. So game seven was the first time
he ever went on three days rest. So that's why
you know, this guy's coming off to Tommy Johns. He is,
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he's our team MVP, and so he's two players and
one so we couldn't get greed with him. So three days.
It wasn't terribly sharp. He gave us three nings. That
was that was plenty.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Clayton Kershaw is joining us tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
What should I bring up to him?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Oh my gosh, you.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Know, I think was going in Game seven?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
He was it was either going to be the next
hitter or certainly if they tied it up, if Kirk
tied it up, right there, Kirk Clayton was going to
take the next hitting.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
How nervous were you when he was on the mound
when he got that.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I was nervous in that game Game three, Game three,
I bring him in in a basis loaded situation, and
it goes back to again, it goes back to trust
your players. Clayton and I have been through so much
in my ten years with him, eighteen years obviously in
his career, and we've had some loads, certainly together, and
(09:55):
then we had some highs. But again, I'm gonna if
it's going to go down, I'm gonna I'm gonna bet
on playing Kershaw and I've proved that time.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
And time again.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
How was the celebration?
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Oh so last year was insane.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
We didn't get it in twenty twenty so sort of
kind of butted up together in twenty four. But last
yesterday's parade or two days agost parade was It was
the best.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
The bet they did.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
They went up themselves, more people, a longer parade route.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Players were just overjoyed. It was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Damn, you're getting used to this.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I would say it's it's I enjoy it. I wouldn't
say get used to it. We already talked about the
players already talked about a three pt I talked about
a three peat. So I'm not making any guarantees, but
I already cleared it with pat Riley on the three
p Term, so we're excited.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I just think with us, you got to find some carrot.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It's like we started out in South Korean twenty four,
finished in the Bronx, started out in Tokyo, finish in Canada,
and so we've had the longest season, the shortest offseason
of anyone, travel the most mile. So you've got to
have some carrot to keep our guys focused and motivated.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
So the three Peter is it for us?
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I mean you should. You want to win, you expect
to win.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
That's right, That's absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Congrats, congrat Thank you, Dan, I appreciate you man. All right,
enjoy your offseason, all.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Right, take care and tell Clayton I said hello tomorrow.
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Speaker 2 (12:15):
Are we gonna play the JJ Watten game before we
bring on JJ Watt Pauline.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
We have to play it and have him give the answer.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Okay, okay, are you ready?
Speaker 6 (12:23):
You tick markin?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
The game is total number of surgeries during during JJ
Watt's football career. Total number. I know the answer, so
I can't give it out. But Dan, you're gonna go last, Fritzy.
I'm gonna go with my favorite number of eleven Marvin eighteen,
Seaton fifteen, Dan nine procedures count. So it's total number
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of surgeries and procedures.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh oh okay, say hold on now, I feel like
we just add. You were saying surgery top surgeries and
proceed tough.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Guys don't have procedures.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
That's illegal procedure on your part right there?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Bringing the guests, all right, let's bring in.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
JJ want how many surgeries and procedures did you have
while you were playing?
Speaker 8 (13:09):
I got a few questions before I even answer that.
How does Paulie know the answer? Because I don't have
the answer. That's what I do here.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I don't have the You can't.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
Possibly have the answer because I mean there's a few
reasons why you can't. But I it's it's significant. What
number do you have, Paulie?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I have?
Speaker 6 (13:29):
I have nine without breaking.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Any hip along way more than that.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Okay, okay, did you hide some procedures in surgeries? Is
that what you're saying?
Speaker 8 (13:38):
No, not hidden, but like there'd be a scope in
the off season that's not reported anywhere that nobody ever
knows about, you know, like that just because it's in
the middle of the off season.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
What would you guess?
Speaker 8 (13:50):
I mean, if you're talking like depends on what you
consider a procedure, like obviously, like I don't think like
PRP shots and things like that are no siegures. But
I mean actually going into my body, it's it's it's
definitely double digits, maybe like fifteen.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, I mean it's it's brutal.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
I mean I have a picture on my phone still
of when I broke my leg and they opened it up.
And I don't know why they showed me that picture.
I don't know why they sent it to me. But
you can when you can look inside and see your
own bone and see all the vessels and everything and
your muscles, it's it'll make it squirmish, damn.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, but you kept it. It's on your phone, so.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, I mean it's a bad ass.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You can you hold it up and show us.
Speaker 8 (14:43):
I literally don't know if it would be allowed on television.
It's it's a gaping hole about that big because they
take it and they put calipers on it, and they
spread your leg apart, and then they have to get
down to the bone. And so my bone was in
like it was shattered, so it was just dozens of pieces.
So they stick this huge metal plate up again instant
and put nine screws in there, and still in there today.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I'm wondering your Hall of Fame bust. Can we do
the one where you've got blood coming down your mind?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I hope so that'll be cool.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Now, do you have any control, any say in when
you go in what your bust looks like?
Speaker 8 (15:18):
I have no idea, I have no idea how any
of that works. I'm not even. I'm not even. I
don't know how that works.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I think Peyton Manning had forehead approval, like you.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
Know, yeah, like you get to I assume you got
to be able to pick your picture, right, you can't.
I don't think you can have accessories, and I feel
like blood would be an accessory.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
All right, we have a poll question, whose career would
you want? Yours or Clayton Kershaw's. He joins his late
one championships warn championships.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I go with Clayton.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
You would go with Clayton. Yeah, okay, let's take three right,
Oh yeah, let's take away titles.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Okay, Well, then what what are you comparing? Because he
did it.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
For a really long time at a really really high level,
so you would probably say doing it longer is better.
Baseball is a very long season, one hundred and sixty
two games. You're on the road away from family.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
A lot. Part of the reason I retired was to
be by family.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
So he's probably made I mean baseball, he's probably made
a quarter of a billion, at.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Least, he's made three twenty oh yeah, nice, But he.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
Probably hasn't had double digit surgeries either, So that's a plus.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I opened the show talking about this Kyler Murray situation
because I'm I'm baffled by this that it doesn't feel
like he's your franchise quarterback too much longer there in Arizona.
Now he's on the IR. Let me just start with
that question. How much does the player have to say
or input of going on the IR not going on
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an IR?
Speaker 8 (17:00):
I mean it, I would say they have some say
because it IR is like ken you play or not.
I mean there's you know, there's situations early in the
year in training camp for you stash guys and things
like that.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
But I mean, especially in today's.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
World where you can come back off the IR after
four weeks, it's it's there's a part of that conversation
is are you going to be good in four weeks
or not? Or are you going to be good in
less than four weeks?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
What what do you think is going on with the
Cardinals and contamory?
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I mean, I mean just literally looking at it from
an outside.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
First of all, I couldn't watch the game on Monday night,
so I don't know what that game looked like, but
it sounds like Jakobe played pretty well.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
But it's I.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
Mean, it seems like from what I've seen, what I've
read that they are comfortable with with Percte playing quarterback
and operating offense.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, but you got to back up making forty five
million dollars and it does. Yeah, but that's awkward too.
I mean there's a lot of awkward stuff in the NFL.
There's a whole lot of off stuff in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
I mean, I think that they're also probably a coaching
staff who feels some pressure, like at some point, you
got to win football games. It can't be purely potential
for a coaching staff before you're the one on the
way out. So it becomes how do we win football
games right now? And what do I think as my
job on the line. You know how it is, and
(18:24):
it's a cover of your ass society in this business,
and you have to find a way to win football
games or you're going to be out the door and
whatever that takes. I mean, there's situations all over the
league where coaches are trying to do whatever's and gms
are trying to do whatever's best to keep them in
that seat.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The longest we're talking to JJ Watt he'll be on
the booth the Jags and Texans. That's at one Eastern
on CBS. You were there for the Colts and the Steelers.
What stood out with the Colts that would make you
still believe that they are going to be there at
the end of the season.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
I mean, they fought back all the way to the
end and that non side kick to which we all
know is not a real chance, but they fought back
all the way to the end, and even with six takeaways,
they were within the potential of one score at the
end of the game. So that fight and drive was there.
It's their first crew punch in the mouth, and it
didn't go well. I mean, six takeaways and everything that
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came along with a muff a punt and they just
ran into a.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Bit of a buzz saw on that day.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
And I watched their offense and the thing I see
with their offense is when they are on schedule and
when they are doing what they do best, which is
first down success leading to a very efficient drive, they're
unbelievable and so hard to stop. That game starts to
put just the slightest question in you of Okay, if
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they aren't on schedule, which for most teams is difficult
and they have to drop back and teams kind of
just are going one dimensional at them. Can they do that?
And that's what we'll have to see going forward. If
another team has a chance it's to punch him in
the mouth and gout that run game down the way
the Steelers did. Can they pass their way out of it?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
How's it been broadcasting a game in which your brother's
playing in Oh, it's been.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Honestly, it's not nearly as bad as I think.
Speaker 8 (20:13):
People think it would be. It's it's a job. Like
it's a job. You're up there, and I know how
to be professional. I know how to do my job.
I'll talk to him before the game. I talked to
him after the game, but during the game, like Iron
handles the play by play anyway, so I have like
a three or four second buffer when he makes a
strip sack fumble where Ian is doing his job really well,
(20:36):
and then I break down the play and from the
fan reaction, I'm very appreciative of all the opposing fans
who have been so kind because I have consciously tried
to keep it extremely unbiased.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
The difference, and I think I know the answer but
going out to a game as opposed to be in studio.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
Yeah, I mean for me personally, like I missed the
guys in the studio, But I love being in the stadium.
I love the adrenaline, I love the atmosphere. I love
the unpredictability of your following the game as it happens,
so you need to be on your toes. It's much
more kind of challenging for me. And it also during
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the week is much more like being a player. You're
watching more film, deeper, talking to coordinators.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I really like that.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, that's what I told Drew Brees because he was
going to be in studio with Football Night America, and
I said, you got to be ready for it because
there's no energy there when you go to a game.
There's energy, like it's tangible when you're like I feel this,
Like that's as close as you'll get to playing again.
And now I just saw where Drew is going to
be an analyst being out on the road with Fox.
(21:45):
But that energy, that's as close as you can replicate
it to actually playing in a game.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Yeah, And like you said, like for for athletes who
have been in it before, it tricks you into getting
back into that mindset where you can get as close
to that flow state as possible, where you're just letting
your instincts and everything take over, whereas kind of like
you said in the studio, you have to manufacture it
for yourself a little bit more to get it going.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Best team you've seen this year is who.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
When the Colts offense is humming the Colts offense for sure,
team as a whole, the Rams is very good. We
saw the Rams early on. The Rams are very good.
And again this is just teams that I've called this year.
We haven't called in the others, but that Colts offense. Man,
we watch them against the Chargers and it was play
(22:38):
at will, like Tyler Warren running wide open, Jonathan Taylor
running down, they got Alec Pierce going like That offense
when it is at its best is unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You know, some people looked at the Jets and said
they did great at the trade deadline. What do you
think when you unload a couple of star players.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
I think they got a good haul for what they
gave away.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I think it's the question of what are they going
to do with that? And what gives you confidence in that?
Speaker 8 (23:07):
Because you gave away young players that you drafted with
a very similar haul.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
That you just got.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
So you know, I love seeing the graphic that people
just put out where like the last time they had
those three first round picks it was you know Breecee Hall.
I think saw it like and you're like, okay, so
you're giving away young talented players to hopefully find more
young talented players. Yeah, I just don't know where the
what the plan is there, and where the confidence should
come in finding that success.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, that's what would make me nervous is when you know,
fans will say we got all these draft picks and
I say, well, who's drafting? Because that's really the key,
and your goal is to find players like Sauce Gardner
and Quinn Williams.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Is't this That's That's my thing, is like we can
have you got all the draft picks in the world,
a Sauce Gardener and a Quinn Williams. Those are hard
to hit and you had two of them in your
building and now you're going to have to go out
and replicate it. But it goes very back to our
conversation from earlier. A GM can come in and say
those weren't my guys. Now, you've got to give me
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time to get my guys. Give me these draft picks
and you start. Now, maybe they do it, maybe it's
maybe it works incredibly well, but it's extremely hard to
hit in the draft.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Is there a quarterback you didn't get that you've seen
when you've gone to a game?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
What do you mean sacked? Oh? Pat?
Speaker 8 (24:30):
I've never I never sacked Pat Malmes, So yeah, does
he remind you of that?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I saw him last summer and we talked about a
little bit.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
But now he's good Man, he's good Tom. Tom likes
to say that I never got him. We've had this
conversation one hundred times. But I got him in the playoffs.
It just doesn't counts as an official sack.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
What about Rogers?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I got Rogers twice in one game.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
I did the belt celebration after the first one, and
he threw six touchdowns over my head.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
So that was a mistake.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Who talked the most out of Mahomes, Brady and Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Not a ton of talking, Not a ton of talking.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
Rogers a little bit, Brady, if you got him fired
up like you could get you get him fired up.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Pat. Pat wasn't didn't talk a whole lot. Now Andrew
Luck talked a.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
Lot, but that was just nice, like we would just
have full blown conversations, just literal.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Like did it did it still? Did it sound like this?
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Oh, you're a great defensive end, high motor, what.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Ahead, key man?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Well, he had a defensive mentality to playing offense.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
It felt like he was the best man.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
I love playing Andrew like literally had the most respect
for him. Hit him probably harder than I've hit anybody
else besides Ryan Fitzpatrick, and every time he popped back up.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
What happened to Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 8 (26:02):
I had a game where I had I got fifteen
quarterback hits, zero sacks, and I was just laying the
hammer time after time after time, and they were on
a two minute drive at the end of the game
and I'm swear I hit him four times in a row,
four knockdowns. Every time I was like, that's it, he's
not getting back up, and every time he popped back up.
(26:24):
So we have actually were teammates after that, and I
shared those stories and I don't know what it is,
but that man, he's got a little he's got some
juice to his game.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I love it. I love fits well.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I remember Michael Strahan was telling me he had so
much respect for Tom Brady when they hit him in
that super Bowl, like they they were, they dominated that
super Bowl, that defensive one. He said, we hit him,
We hit him every time. He said he never complained.
He complained about his offensive line, but he never said
you would just say, good hit and get back up.
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But that is that more frustrating If a quarterback goes
he good hit, pops back.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
Up, it's no because I don't want him to be hurt,
like that's like a communisconception. But it's more frustrating to
me when he looks at the ref for a flag,
because that does work, like the ref will eventually throw
that flag.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
So I don't want like I can't stand it when
they just I'd love it.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
I would respect a quarterback when he just pops up
and he appreciates that this is a violent game.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Okay, but do you say like stump.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Being a wolves.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
Nah, you gotta be a real punk to get me
to say something like that.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Like there's there's some young kids there. There are a
couple of young kids.
Speaker 8 (27:36):
Who later in my career, I'd hit him and they
would whine, and I'd be like, you don't have the right.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
To whine here, man.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
How's your soccer team? We're doing good, man, we're doing good.
Espaniel's doing really well. We're in six in La Liga
and Burnley's currently out of the relegation zone in the
Premier League.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Big match coming up this weekend, so a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Is your son going to play football or soccer?
Speaker 8 (28:01):
We're definitely gonna have him in soccer to start, because
of the ball skills and the agility. But I mean,
let's be honest here, Dan, he's in a ninety nine
percentile for height and weight.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
He's uh, he's not gonna have the.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Endurance to be out there running around for ninety minutes
on a pitch.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
He's a big boy.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Is he bench is he bench pressing?
Speaker 8 (28:19):
He does wheelbarrow walks right now, so he's big on
the wheelbarrow walks.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So yeah, old old school.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Great to talk to you, Safe travels, and uh, thanks
for joining us.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Thank you guys. Have a great day, miss y'all.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
That's a JJ. He's got the uh Jags and the
Texans coming up. One of his old teams there had
the Colts and the Steelers and uh Burnley. Burnley is
out a relegation Seaton, I think so. Yeah. That was
an Espanol hat that he was wearing too, So he's
he's got a little foot in Spain foot in England.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
It's pretty good. It's pretty good.
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Speaker 2 (29:10):
Clayton Kershaw, the recently retired three time Cy Young winner
and future Hall of Famer. We spoke to him yesterday
and the first question I asked was, how's retirement.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Day one? Pretty good? Yeah, so far, so good.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You know what's gonna happen though, You know how your
body adapts to certain times of the year. Oh yeah,
you know, come February, you're gonna be bringing the kids outside,
You're gonna get loose, You're in a long tossing and
all of that. So get ready for that because you're
gonna face that. Plus everybody's gonna be out of the
house and you're gonna be like, what am I doing?
Speaker 9 (29:48):
Yeah, everybody says there are a lot of guys that
I talked to you said, Opening day is the day
where you're like, man, I'm not there. You know, it's
a weird. So I Opening Day is gonna be a
weird one. But to be fair, I haven't been in
spring training in a couple of years. I've kind of
planned some surgeries pretty well, kind of missed spring training,
So that'll be that won't be too new for me.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
What was this World Series like as opposed to the
other ones.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
Yeah, I mean last year was really cool because we
got the parade, you know, I think you know, after
the COVID World Series not getting to do the parade
or anything, and then getting to do that last year.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
It was kind of a celebration of almost two.
Speaker 9 (30:26):
World series, you know, and so that that was awesome.
But for me personally to be a part of this
one more than I was last year and to get
to see you know, just to feel feel a little
bit more a part of it, and then the parade
this year was insane. It was it was so much bigger,
so much longer, so many people, and that's just really special.
(30:49):
You know, your last one to get to kind of
celebrate with the fans and you know, tell them thank you,
tell them how much they you know, supported us and
our team and me personally for so long.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
And it was just so fun. Man, it was so cool.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
The importance of having your kids at an age where
they can appreciate seeing dad out there.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
How important was that to you? Yeah, I'm thankful for that.
You know. My oldest three, I think will definitely.
Speaker 9 (31:13):
I don't know, do you remember stuff when you're five?
I think you do. Yeah, my my it's close. But
at least my.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Oldest too, I think, had a blast.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
You know, my oldest son, Charlie got to be in
the dugout a lot this year, got to be in
the you know, shag BP do all the stuff, and
so he was super invested in.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
It this year.
Speaker 9 (31:33):
And I'm thankful they'll remember me that I had a
job at some point.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
You know, it'll be good. It was just it was
so fun and memorable.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
And I mean my wife rock stars, she's pregnant right
now and traveling from Toronto to Dallas and school back
to LA to Toronto, I.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Mean, just doing it all.
Speaker 9 (31:52):
So it was it's good to be home and good
to get to celebrate with the fans.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Have you seen the video of your wife and this
stands when you're on the mound. Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
She's not a reliever wife, Dan, She's a starter wife.
Speaker 9 (32:07):
That's just that's just too much stress to not know
when you're coming in and to get to do all that.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
But yeah, I think she was. She was feeling it,
uh to say the least.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Okay, but are you nervous in that moment?
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah, I mean for sure. I think I think we
all are.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I don't know if you allow yourself to get like
you have to play a mind game that I got
to be confident. I can't have any doubt or be nervous.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I think you have.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
Both, though I think it's not doubt, like you you're
confident you can do your job. But you know, warming
up in the pen, hearing that phone ring kind of
all new stuff for me.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
It's like that phone rings it's like an adrenaline pump,
you know, And so you know, all that running in, trying.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
To feel your legs and trying to execute pitches and
all that. You know, at the end of the day,
I'm just so glad I got that out because that
was the last time I ever pitched, and.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
You know, it could have gone sideways. So I'm just glad.
Speaker 9 (33:04):
I'm just glad I got that last out and I
thought it was going to be a bigger out, but
we ended up playing like seven more innings.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
You know, so I think, uh, it's just it.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
Was a crazy game. And like I said last time,
a Dodger stated and fish it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Dave Roberts said that you were probably coming in in
game seven.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yeah. Yeah, so I had no idea there was one out.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
So when Kirk grounded into that double play, I thought
I was coming in the game like tie game, Uh,
extra innings. I'm pitching with two outs, and I left
you up to bat, and then Bardo, our bullpen coach,
just said, hey, we just want to you know.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
I had no idea, no idea. That was amazing though.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
So it's a delayed reaction.
Speaker 9 (33:52):
Yeah, I just I didn't believe in my first and
then yeah, I turned around, saw everybody out there and
ran out.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
There and got to celebrate again. Man, just amazing.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Talking to the Dodgers Clayton Kershaw no former Dodger Clayton Kershaw, yeah,
or Dodger unemployed. What are you going to do the
rest of your life?
Speaker 9 (34:11):
I don't know, man, you know, I've got a lot
of kids, so obviously I'll do that for a while.
And I love baseball.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I do. I love baseball. I have a passion for it.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
I feel like I can help in some regard, in
some way, but I have no idea what that looks like.
I obviously don't, you know, feel the need or want
to travel too much right now. So you know, there's
some cush gigs out there, you know, some special assistant
jobs and different things like that that if the Dodgers
are gracious enough to let me do that at some point,
(34:41):
I think I'd definitely be interested in that. But you know,
we have a baby coming in December, and everybody says
I have to figure out how to play golf, so
maybe I'll try that.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I don't know. I really don't have any idea. It's
kind of nice, though, the no plan plan.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's kind of be weird though. You're watching the ninth
inning from the bullpen. Yeah, yeah, so you don't even
have comfort, you don't have company. It's just you and
the bullpen catcher. I'm guessing. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
I mean, you know, there's a few guys, a few
of us left down there. But hey, what an amazing
what Yama did. I mean, that was I don't think.
I don't know if you'll ever see that again in baseball.
It's like a guy that pitched Game six, come in
and not just get one or two outs, but go
too and I think it was two and two thirds
or something. So it's just just incredible, superhuman.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Stuff from Yama.
Speaker 9 (35:33):
And there's a lot of guys that went out of
their comfort zone for us to win this World Series.
And I think that's what makes the Dodgers so special.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Man.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
A lot of superstars.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
Obviously, but a lot of guys willing to go above
and beyond to help us, which.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Is really cool.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yamamoto, I said this to your manager, former manager. He
reminded me of Payedro Martinez, similar size and just feels
like he can throw every single day.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
Yeah, I mean, I cannot believe what he did and
how I mean, I don't know how he felt the
next day for him to do that. Man, just like
and he's you know, he's been on the Japanese schedule,
you know, coming over from Japan, and then even this year,
you know, Doc protected him a lot, you know, basically
pitching on a weak rest for six days.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
The whole time.
Speaker 9 (36:17):
So for him with no days to go out there
and do it, I'm thankful for Y'ama.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
He got me one more World Series. So thank you Yama.
It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Did you ever pitch to Otani? Yeah with the Angels.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (36:33):
Check the numbers. Damn check the numbers. I never gave
up a hit to show me, and I will have
that for the rest of my life. I think he
was like, oh for ten or eleven or something.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, yeah, you don't rub that in, do you.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I haven't told him yet. I didn't know how he
would take it.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
But I got the numbers. He's oer for eleven with
four strikeouts.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah it feels good.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
He owned the greatest player in the history of the sport.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah it feels great. I'll take that all day.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Did anybody ever ask you how to pitch him knowing
your success?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
I mean guys asked me on our team.
Speaker 9 (37:09):
Obviously, I would never say anything to anybody else, but
I think I just you can't throw middle speed pitches.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
And unfortunately now that's all I throw is middle speed.
I don't know if that would have done very well.
Speaker 9 (37:19):
Now, man, those like the slider change up mid eighties
upper eighties. I don't care how good it is. I
don't feel confident throwing that stuff. So you got to
throw really hard or throw soft.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Like okay, But at what point do you know I
can't do this. I can't fool people like I can't
be Clayton Krushel anymore.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 9 (37:41):
Think over the course of this season, I really started
to feel it more like I was able to pitch okay,
you know, and had a decent season, which I'm super
thankful for, and I was healthy for it. But you know,
sometimes you look up there and I was throwing you know,
eighty seven eighty eight mile an hour fastballs, and I
felt healthyletely healthy, and you know, it just it just
(38:04):
felt like it was the right time, Like this was
not going to work for that much longer. And so
in the day and age that we have now of velocity,
like even ninety one ninety two is not potentially enough,
like you can get away with it as a starter
if you know what you're doing. But it just didn't
really feel like I had I had enough in the
tank to do it for.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
One more year.
Speaker 9 (38:25):
And you know, Ellen and I even going into the
season where like, hey, this kind of feels like the
last one.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
And so.
Speaker 9 (38:32):
You know this last month, knowing that it was over
and getting to do this the way it was, just
couldn't write a better script.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Man, is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
If you were going to name your soon to be
born baby after one of your teammates, former teammates, who
would it be.
Speaker 9 (38:46):
Well, I'm having a girl, but if I was having
a boy, I guess the question is who do I
like the most man?
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Right now? Maybe Yoshinobu.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Just Yoshi, right, yeah, yeah, you go Yoshi.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I was a big Mario Kart fan growing up. You go, Yoshi.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Hey, congratulations, And I still go back. I get people
during COVID when you were in your office and you
were showing how you grip. I mean you were our
first zoom guest and when you showed us all of
your pitches. I still have people saying how much they
appreciated that and learned from that. And I always go
back to that, because do you have a baseball by
(39:33):
you here?
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Yeah? Give me fifteen seconds. Oh wait, nope, I got one,
got it?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Okay, give me the grip of your last pitch as
a major leaguer.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
All right, I was a slider.
Speaker 9 (39:45):
I threw all sliders because basically my fastball on their
slider are the same pitch.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
So I just.
Speaker 9 (39:51):
So I just kind of did this. It's like a
four seing grip, but I just get the top. I
think this is like a I think he opened beer
cans with this.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You might be using that a lot, Yeah, I might.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
And then I just kind of angle my fingers so
it's it's literally like a fastball with a slight angle
of the fingers and uh yeah, I threw that slider
the most of any pitch for the last few years
and saved my career.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Got to stick around a little longer.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Well, congrats, congrats with the baby coming up and in retirement.
We appreciate your time, Clayton.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Thanks man always full man. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
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