November 25, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan reacts to the 49ers win over the Panthers last night and doesn’t think they are a real threat in the NFC despite their 8-4 record. And he talks about the insane amount of pressure on Vikings QB JJ McCarthy as he enters concussion protocol and is currently questionable for Week 13.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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mothership is gonna come.
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to our radio affiliates. iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio. Just to
name a few, over four hundred cities in America that
carry this program. All right, Monday Night Football, The Niners
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beat the Panthers. They're now eight and four. Are the
Niners good? Are they relevant? Are they threatening? Because I'm
watching and I would say are they good? They're good ish?
Are they relevant? They got Christian McCaffrey. Are they threatening?
I would say no. Rock Party did not look good.
(02:19):
He did not look pretty in the first half. How
about that time?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Okay, I've heard it a couple of times before. Oh
you have you know what it's Thanksgiving week, bloo, you
have your Thanksgiving T shirt on.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
I do have my Thanksgiving teacher. I found it way
in the back of the closet. Could use an ironing,
but I'm.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I mean speaking of repeat material.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
You know it's the holidays.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Let's not Larry Bird. Who else do you have?
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Jack Ham backam We got Mark Eaton out a holiday.
Tim McCarver, good.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Time, Thank you, John the paint. The Panthers now six
and six. The Niners though, at eight and four, and
they're in a tough division. Do I think they're as
good as the Rams know Seattle. No, they're better than
the Cardinals. But you're watching and it's a wounded team.
First of all, they made the mistake with Brandon Ayuk,
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who I was thinking thirty million dollars let him go,
and they brought him back. You got rid of debo,
you got Bosa's injured, Fred Warner is injured. I don't
know how they're doing it, but give credit. McCaffrey gives
you a little bit of running, a little bit of
pass receiving. George Kittle has played pretty well. They're just
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not threatening, but they will be relevant because of Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Are they good.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
They're good ish and maybe good enough to get into
the postseason, but still you could end up with ten
wins and maybe not get in because Seattle. Seattle's a
really good team and we know the Rams might be
the best team in football. College football rankings coming out
later on tonight, Mac foot All tonight, Baker Mayfield has
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a shoulder spring Shardoor Sanders named the starter for the
Cleveland Browns. They play the forty nine ers and they
host the forty nine ers, and JJ McCarthy is in
concussion protocol, and I do believe there's something up with
the Vikings. It's not just the health of JJ McCarthy,
because he was injured all last year's rookie year, then
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came back and then they got rid of their backup
quarterbacks and it was all on JJ McCarthy. And we
talked about this at the start of the season. I
talked about the pressure, the most pressure on players coming
into this year, and JJ McCarthy was at the top
of my list, or certainly in that top five, because
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it's your team. Even though you didn't get to ease
in to your career, your career starts now. And you're
all of a sudden looking around, going, I've got a
couple of wide receivers here, and my backups are gone.
They have entrusted me with this team that was a
really good team the previous year, And can I maintain
that they got rid of Sam Darnold because of two
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games the last two games the regular season in the postseason.
And now you're going to say to JJ McCarthy, not
known as a passing quarterback, certainly in college, and now
you're saying to him, we're going to entrust you with
this offense. And you're lucky you got justin Jefferson Jordan Addison.
Most quarterbacks don't get that luxury. But he's been average
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below average. Now he's in concussion protocol, and you start
to wonder bigger picture here with JJ McCarthy, Is he
who the Vikings thought he was? Now, granted it's a
small sample size, but this is the way of the NFL.
Now you get two years, maybe you get three years,
and you either get that long term contract or all
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of a sudden, you're going to be a backup quarterback
somewhere and you're going to hit the reset button. It's
too early to say that with jjmc karthy. But he
did get sacked five times. He got hit a total
of ten times in their game against Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
But I don't see it yet.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
There's certain times when I've watched a quarterback and you go, oh,
I get it. There are other times when you go, mmm,
I'm not sure yet. And I'm at that point with
JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I'm just not sure.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
And there are times when he'll make a play and
you go, Wow, that's great. And then there'll be times
when you go, that's not great. I got too many
of those and not enough of Wow, that's great. And
you do have an offensive minded head coach, and so
he has a benefit. I mean, he's got all the
benefits here. Half your games you're playing indoors. Now, granted
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you're playing in a tough division. You got maybe the
best receiver in football, but your backups now out Carson
Wentz and the Viking season seems to be all but over.
But watching that, seeing that, and he didn't go into
the blue tent in the game against Green Bay, there
wasn't one hit. I guess he came up to the
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coach on the plane ride home and said, I don't
feel well. They put him in concussion protocol. Now that's
not to say he didn't suffer something or get his
bell rung, or maybe stayed in the game. Maybe they
didn't realize that he had on set concussion symptoms there.
But he's out and Minnesota's They're probably going to get
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to a crossroads at some point, maybe by the end
of the year on is he our guy? Because right
now it doesn't look like that. All right, Seaton, what's
the poll question for hour one?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, we got a whopper here for hour one.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Okay, division most likely to win the Super Bowl AFC.
Paul just sent this over this morning. This is a whopper.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Now you go through the AFC and see which one.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Oh oh, I didn't know if you were going to say,
like AFC North mostly yeah West there, Yeah, AFC East right.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
West also an option there.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Okay, I'd still say the AFC West. I mean you
got Denver and you got Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I must say AFC East.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Actually, okay, because partially because the Bills are really good,
Patriots also have a very easy schedule, so they can
kind of they might be able to set themselves up
where they really just have to win a couple of
games here, I'll pi to the face that. Plus we
all know the Chiefs aren't making the playoffs anyway.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
So well you did. You did make that prediction at
the start.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Of the year.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's why I've never been more invested in a Cults
game in my entire life. And I it's one of
the few times in recent memory I actually semi yelled
at the TV.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Oh when the Colts let that slip away.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Oh my gosh, dude, Yeah, che Rice grams that ball
across the middle and goes down like God.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
There is that's a game. This is how they win
the Super Bowl. That won stupid.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I know we might look back and go, damn, that's
going to be the game they got to the Super
Bowl again.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Patrick Mahomes gonna be like, you know, after that game,
after the Colts game, we really galvanized, We really came again.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
No, I think he sounds a little bit more like this,
and we're going.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
To get this back together and good.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I think we're gonna be all terrytorrying about it to
win it.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Eight seven seven three DP show operators sitting by Tyler
will take your phone calls and we'll settle on a
pole question. Reggie, Chris collins Worth, who just had his
five hundredth game NFL game, and Lewis Riddick will join
us from the Mothership coming up. By the way, Oklahoma
City is seventeen and one. That's one of those what
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the Pistons have won thirteen in a row? Two years
ago they won a total of fourteen games. They won
thirteen in a row. Just a little basketball there, joker
at another triple double. But we'll talk to some hoops
a little bit later on speaking of basketball. Random text
last night and it came from one of the dan Nets,
and I was like, man, who sent this? At first
(10:08):
I thought Marvin sent this, and then I realized Seaton
sent it. And he was talking about the Brooklyn Nets
and how irrelevant they are and aside from Michael Porter
junior third, it looks like a college team that got
the death penalty where they took away all their players,
(10:28):
Like there are certain college teams that I know more
players on their I know more players on Duke than
I do the Brooklyn Nets. And that is kind of
remarkable that you're watching the Brooklyn Nets. And I'm thinking.
Bill Simmons on his podcast said the Columbus Bluejackets are
the most irrelevant professional franchise, and I would argue it's
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the Brooklyn Nets because even though they're in the New
York City area, they are irrelevant and at least Columbus
has had some success. Brooklyn is terrible.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
They were like turning that on that on that game.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I put on Knicks.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Nets for a little bit last night, flipping between a
couple of different games, I was like, who the hell
are these guys?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It did?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It looked like it looked like they were given some
kind of severe penalty where they're like, okay, fine for
this season. Your entire like roster budget is fifteen million dollars.
Michael Porter Junior is no offense to him. That's your guy.
That's the guy that I mean, you're in New York City,
you're in Brooklyn, and that's the guy that you're putting
everything on.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yes, Marvin, they're so irrelevant.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
If they won the NBA Championship, no one would care
in New York, no one. They had Kevin Durant, Kyrie
Irving and James Harden and still no one cared.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Well, they certainly don't care now, oh for sure they don't.
And you're watching and it's such a non descript like
that's where you want at least some kind of relevancy.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
You can be bad, but be relevant.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
And there are certain franchises and certain sports where you
go there's no pulse there, there's nothing there but for
Brooklyn to be that Bland.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Holy spokes, dude, that was crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yes, yes, Marvin and Columbus.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
If the Blue Jackets won the Stanley Cup, that whole
town would be out. Like so they're not irrelevant, they
just might not.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Be that good.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Yeah that I mean, they have a good fan base
when you consider that football in Columbus about the Buckeyes
and high school football. But the Blue Jackets I believe
have a you know, pretty loyal fan base Brooklyn.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
That's where you know, that's where they go. Hey, uh yeah,
I got tickets.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
If anybody want tickets, you know you can get it
for like twenty bucks.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I think you can play for one hundred bucks. You
know they'll let you playing.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Yes, Tom, I think the Brooklyn Cyclones minor league baseball
team has at least as much buzz as than that's
and that's a problem, right.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Uh So Yeah, random text from Seaton last night. You
got bored with the football game. See uped around and
caught some Brooklyn nets basketball.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Not kind of lie.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
It didn't take me very long to get bored at
that game. That's a tough watch.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Three first half picks for Rock Party. Here's Kyle Shanahan
on his quarterback.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
I just had three throws you'd love to take back.
There are all three good decisions, just a hair laid
on them. And when you're a hair laid on stuff,
you can't throw behind him. And he threw it behind him,
and all three guys made him pay. There's no narrative
to the late throw. You're just a little late. And
when you do, which is pepper late a lot, you
just can't throw behind.
Speaker 9 (13:29):
Him when you are.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You had to put it in front of him.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
And he had a little behind him on all three,
and all three of those corners made him pay.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
He had a slight hitch and that's all ticks. That's
the difference between college football.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
In the NFL.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
You can hitch, you can pump, not in the NFL,
not for a timing pattern. And you saw that with
Brock Purty. It was like a and that was it.
And that's all those cornerbacks need because I catch up
a whole lot quicker.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
You know.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Shador Sanders talked about the speed of the NFL that
he's got to get used to the speed. He was
talking about Max Crosby. He said, after the game, why
were you trying to beat the blank out of me?
He goes, that's my job. You know, you have these
guys who are omnipresent, like they're there, and if they're
not there, they're going to get there really, really quickly.
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And that's the difference in the NFL in college. But
I still find these quarterbacks who don't take what's right
in front of them, the easy five yards. And I
forget who we had on, but he talked about Tom
Brady and he said, a hundred out of one hundred
times he's taking the five yard guy who's wide open,
as opposed to the seven or the ten yarder. One
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hundred out of one hundred, he's taken what's right there. Hey,
you're gonna let me have that. I'm gonna take it.
The younger quarterback trying to make a bigger play and
Rock Perdy a split second. And that's what's amazing when
you see this in real time like TV. He puts
it so it's really easy to see and understand and
looks a whole lot easier than what it is when
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you're watching on the sideline. It is, it is so quick.
It's it's far quicker than you can even imagine. But
those who see it and get it done and anticipate
and throw somebody open, those are the greats of all time.
The other ones. That's why you become journeymen, that's why
you become a backup. That's why you get, you know,
kicked out of the league. It's just amazing how they
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do it with that precision. In the NFL. College football, man,
that is fools gold. I mean, Julian Saying is completing
eighty percent of his passes at Ohio State. Unheard of,
but it is college football, and it feels like anybody
who's you know, any anybody who's greatness or good, you know,
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being on that level of being great, being good, good ish,
you've got to complete sixty sixty five percent of your passes.
Because it's all in the NFL. I think Steve Young
completed seventy two percent of his passes one year, which
is unheard of, just because the ability to get something
into a tight window, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
And it's a cheek kobe in a quarterback at Ohio
State because I already have NFL wide receivers in college.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
I still go back to when Justin fields against Ohio
State they were wide O. Like, it was hard to
assess Justin fields because I went, those receivers are wide open.
And then we've seen what's happened to Justin Fields when
he got to the NFL. You don't have those receivers
and you don't have that defense that you're going up against.
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All right, Lewis Riddick from the Mothership will join us
Chris collins Worth a little bit later on in Reggie
Eloisius Miller Junior the Third. Well, take a break, just
getting started on this Tuesday. We're back after this.
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Speaker 5 (17:35):
We'll talk to Lewis Riddick of the Mothership here in
a moment. Lane Kiffin met with the media as he
gets ready for the game Old miss against Mississippi State,
and this is the Egg Bowl, and of course we
want to find out where Lane Kiffin is going to
go or if he's going to stay when he makes
the announcement, and he met with the media and he
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got hit with a couple of really good questions.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
When Keith released a statement on Friday that's saying that you,
him and Chancellor Voice that had a meeting about your future.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Are you able to elaborate on the nature of that
meeting at all?
Speaker 11 (18:08):
Yeah, Like I said at the beginning, very fair question.
But we're not answering anything that doesn't have to do
with the game and the team this season, So but fair.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
Additional Pat McAfee, how you don't make decisions based on money.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
When you do make your decisions, what are the considerations for.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
You then, especially when it comes to football decisions, right, Like,
what are you thinking about?
Speaker 11 (18:28):
Yeah, very fair question, but I'm not going into it because,
like I said at the beginning, I'm gonna keep this
to this team.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
And he says expects a decision on Saturday. Is that
a decision that's been made or is that still in consideration?
Like people were just curious about that.
Speaker 11 (18:45):
Yeah, so I mean you can just keep going. I'm
not going to answer them. So that's three of them.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
You got another one, all right, it's their job. Lane.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
You put yourself in this position. The coach is not
supposed to be the distraction. You are the distraction. These
questions aren't out of nowhere when you send cryptic messages
and pictures and you know your family's here, your family's there,
and flight is going to be here, they're going there.
I would say that was probably a draw between media
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and head coach. Let's bring in Lewis Riddick from the
mother Ship. He'll be on the call for Miami at
Pittsburgh Saturday noon Eastern on ABC.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
What'd you make of that? Back and forth there.
Speaker 12 (19:28):
Yeah, that's Lane, man, that's Lane's just trying to trying
to deflect the questions and not answer him until he,
you know, drops his decision on the rest of us.
As far as we know what exactly it is that
he's planning on doing. You know, it's a look, I mean,
you know what. Look, I've talked to Lane Dan many
many times to cover a bunch of their games. I
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really like the guy, developed a friendship with him. He's
been really good to me as far as you know,
the information that we need to do our jobs.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
But look, he right now is trying to make the
best decision for his football.
Speaker 12 (20:02):
Career and the college football you know, schedule, as far
as when coaches can be talked to, when coaches can
be hired, you know as when you kind of compare
it to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
It's just screwed up.
Speaker 12 (20:13):
He's in a situation right now where really he can't win.
He could make it simpler, you know, if his decision
was simply just to go back to old miss. I mean,
he could obviously simplify this whole thing and put this
whole the whole thing the rest as far as you know,
the speculation surrounding his job. Obviously, it leads you to
believe that you know he hasn't made a decision, or
that he's made a decision, that maybe that is going
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to cause a little bit of let's just say, controversy
as far as maybe what he decides to do. But
I think we're all just gonna have to sit and
wait right now. And you can tell he's having a
hard time trying to keep people off his back until
he actually does make his decision and make it known.
And it's tough, man, it's tough being in this situation
that he's in. Don't I don't envy him because I
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can understand, as far as you know him trying to
make a decision that he feels as though I was
going to set him up to be a national championship
winning head coach at some point down the line. And
that doesn't mean necessarily he can't get that done at
Old Miss.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
But just right now, he's not willing to let us
in on where he's heading with this thing.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
And let's say he goes either lash here or Florida, Yeah,
would you let him coach Ole Miss in the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I'd have a hard time doing it.
Speaker 12 (21:28):
I really would, because obviously it wouldn't be fair to
you know, to his players right now that he has
the roster that he has assembled right now.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
But he does give you the best chance too.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Of course it does. And look, I think what it is.
Speaker 12 (21:43):
It's it's kind of like it's kind of like an
ethics discussion, I guess you you would say here, like,
does he does he have the right to coach a
team up until the very end, up until they get
knocked out of it, given the fact that he is,
in essence kind of decided, hey, look, this isn't the
team ultimately that I want to coach, and that down
the line, I'm looking to move.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
On and go to a different place. I think that.
Speaker 12 (22:04):
I mean, look, if you're if you're the sitting athletic
director or the sitting president of ole miss and he,
let's just say he did decide to go to a
different place, Yeah, I would have a hard time. I
would have a hard time letting him continue to coach
the team, although although he gives the team the best
chance to win a national title with him leading the charge,
of course, yeah, it's it's a it's a very tough
it's a tough situation for everyone involved here, man, and
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I would not want to be in it. And somehow,
some way, the NCAA has to kind of change up
the structure so where you don't you don't have coaches
being put in this situation, and most importantly, you don't
have players and teams being put in this situation.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
There was an incident during the Niners game against the
Panthers when Juwan Jennings got hit in the groin and
he was hit by Trayvon mullrigg okay, and then after
the game he took a swing at Moulrig and then
all of a sudden, people are like, wait a minute,
what's what happened here?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
And then we saw the video where he gets hit
in the groin.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah, what's worse getting hit in the groin or somebody's
spitting in your face?
Speaker 12 (23:09):
Well, I think, look, someone's spitting in your face. I
think you've heard many people talk about this, Dan, I mean,
that's the ultimate. It's the ultimate show of disrespect getting
hit in the groin, someone purposely taking a shot. You're going, look,
it's all the same to me when someone's trying to
butt you, know, to hurt you in a very meaningful way,
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and when someone's trying to disrespect you in a very
meaningful way. Look, those those are just lines you just
don't cross on the football field, and all the things,
all bets are off after that, they just are I
think Mike Tomlin put it perfectly when I guess a
reporter asked him, how are you advising your players if
someone were to spit in your face? I think he
you know, I'm kind of paraphrasing where he said, Look,
you just do what comes naturally to you.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
At that point, and someone hits you.
Speaker 12 (23:52):
In the groin, Dan, or someone spits in your face,
I would tell you the same thing or anyone else,
do what comes naturally and I'll back you from there.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Would you be playing Joe Burrow if you're the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I think it looks sometimes
we know this.
Speaker 12 (24:08):
We know players need to be protected from themselves, Like
the Bengals aren't going anywhere as far as twenty twenty five,
and I know, like, look, this is the highest form
of competition when it comes to pro football, and you're
being paid to do a job, and Joe Burrow's being
paid handsomely but at the same time, I'm trying to
look out for his long term future and the long
term future of the Bengals, and I don't think it's
served by putting him out there and a season that
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right now isn't going anywhere. I just wouldn't want to
risk further injury. I know he could get injured at
any time. It is football, It's what he's paid to do.
But I wouldn't put him out there. I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
But he wants to be out there. Yeah, I know
your fan base is paying to see him out there. Yeah,
you can't bubble wrap him.
Speaker 12 (24:46):
That's true. That is true. I understand that. But we're
talking about one of the elite of the elites that Look,
I guess what I would really need to know here is,
and I say this numerous I've said this numerous different times,
one of the most important aspects of an organization is
your medical department, your doctors, your trainers, your rehab specialists.
I would actually want to know, Look, what is the
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risk of playing this young man and putting him back
out there on the football field in the season that's
not going anywhere. Am I risking his long term future?
That I've invested so much in by putting him back
out there, what's the risk of injuring him to the
degree where it compromises his long term future with our organization?
Those are That's where I would probably wind up leaning
on the most. But sitting here on the outside looking in,
(25:30):
I would probably be like, Look, we're gonna look forward
to twenty twenty six with you, Joe.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Talking to Lewis Riddick of the motherships. You got Miami
at Pittsburgh, And I brought this up a little bit
with Notre Dame in Miami Miami Beach, Notre Dame starting
the season, Notre Dame is ranked higher. Where do you
stand with that? Should Notre Dame be ranked higher than Miami?
Given the head to head?
Speaker 12 (25:54):
Look, I think there's a lot left to be played out. Still, Okay,
at this point, do I think they should be being
compared in the same pod as the as the.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Committee talked about? Yeah, I do.
Speaker 12 (26:04):
I think they should be. I understand that they're they're
saying that, look, Notre Dame's losses, or rather Miami's losses
are worse than Notre Dame's losses, and that's why maybe
they are. There is a little bit of a gap
between where they are putting them right now and that
they're not evaluating them in the same pod. Then why
would why would any team ever want to schedule tough
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games in the beginning of the season anymore if early
season wins don't count the same as late season wins.
I mean, that's an argument Miami can make, in an
argument that Miami should make. I think in the end,
after this weekend is all settled up, we're gonna see
whether or not that early season win really did mean
something for Miami if they are able to get past
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Pittsburgh on Saturday and beat them convincingly, and then we
can wind up having this you know, this conversation once again.
I think head to head should matter no matter when
you play it. I don't like the the whole idea
of the that the that the let's say say that
the value of that win diminishes over time. I don't
believe that. I do believe that teams can improve and
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teams can also become worse as the season goes along.
But head to head matt has to mean something regardless
of when it was played. And there's gonna be a
lot of other objective factors that go into this decision,
which a lot of times it seems like that's a
sliding scale that they use whatever they need to use
in order to justify what their eyes are telling them.
And that's why this whole thing's kind of a mess.
(27:28):
When you can't ultimately decide things on the football field,
then you're always gonna have disagreements.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
You just are.
Speaker 12 (27:34):
But that head to head is something I'm telling you
has to have become a factor.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
It has to be a factor after this weekend is over.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Twenty minutes ago, I was talking about Rock Purty. He
hesitated on all three of those throws in the first half.
He threw interceptions, and I said, in college, you can
get away with hesitate. Hesitate, then throw, you can double pump.
I mean you have time. In the NFL, you don't
have time. Right Like, as soon as he paused, I went,
(28:02):
oh my gosh, and then he threw the interceptions. You
played defensive back in the NFL. You got to throw
guys open and they don't stay open very long. But
that precision is what makes quarterbacks great. And the guys
who don't aren't able to do that. The younger quarterbacks
who think they can do what they did in college.
(28:23):
I mean, that's the death of you. So can you
explain that though of throwing that receiver open as a
defensive back facing these receivers in quarterbacks.
Speaker 12 (28:34):
Yeah, Look the great guys who patrolled the middle of
the field, in particular the safeties, even linebackers. But that's
where you see the interceptions. That's where you see the
lack of anticipation on the part of quarterbacks really come
home to bite them. It's when they're trying to throw
those big fifteen eighteen yard incuts that are coming in
right inside the hass right behind a second level defender
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or right in front of a safety who's coming downhill.
And that's where a lot of times it's not open
when you throw it, but you're banking on the fact
that the receiver is going to be exactly where you
expect him to be, and I'm gonna put the ball
exactly where there is enough time for the receiver to
make the catch and protect himself before that safety is
able to anticipate where I'm you know that I'm letting
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both go of this ball and he's going to be
driving downhill. So those those quarterbacks that are able to
do that. I mean, you're right, the windows are about
one foot by one foot. They're trying to fit them
into a tiny little box. And if he hitches at all,
if he hesitates at all, and it gives me that
extra step that when he takes his hand off of
(29:38):
that ball, When he takes his hand off of the
ball and he lets it go, that's usually when I'm
trying to break. Okay, as a middle of the field defender,
if he pauses this for a second, he's given me
another step in order to get there to either make
the interception or have Back in the day it was
a big blow up shot, which now you can't do.
But maybe you're giving me that extra second to get there.
And so yeah, you have to be for you have
(30:00):
to be sure when you let that ball go. And
even when you let it go on time, there are
great safeties and great linebackers who are still gonna be
able to make the play. But that's that's the that's
the cost of doing business. When you're throwing the football
in the middle of the field like that, if there's
any hesitation, you are really putting the ball at harm's way.
I heard Kurt Warner talking about this where I read
him talking about this, you know, on on social media.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I believe it was either last night or this morning.
Speaker 12 (30:23):
Nobody threw the deep in cut better than Kurt Warner, nobody,
And he says, look, sometimes it burned me. Sometimes even
when I let it go on time, the DV still
made the play. But I can guarantee you this. If
you don't let it go on time and they do
get a break, you're cooked. And that's what was happening
in the brock. I mean, that's I think. Did you
(30:44):
did you talk about the fact that, look, you know what,
and I've said this too, fans should watch a game
or have the chance to watch a game from behind
the from the quarterbacks vantage point field level to see
what they see and see just how hard it is
to do what you're talking about. And quite honestly, most fans,
or most average football players, high school college football players
(31:06):
wouldn't throw a lot of the throws that these guys
throw because it never looks open. You never look like
there's an open window. But you have to trust it
and you have to let it go. And look, that's
why these guys get paid what they're paid, and that's
why the error. The margin for error is like slim
and none.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
But this is what I wanted Tom Brady to do
or Peyton Manning to do, is have the camera behind
the offensive line and actually put us right there in
the moment. So Tom is going to say, I see
the mic linebacker there, this guy's coming. This guy's going
to act like he's coming. You know, we got safeties here.
(31:43):
So if he tells me that in real time, yeah,
that's the experience I want to hear from Brady or
Peyton so we do understand that. I tell my audience
all the time, if you saw the game from the
sidelines in real speed, you would be shocked how fast
it is. Like TV, it helps us, you know, focus.
(32:05):
It's incredible how fast and how violent the game is.
But if you put me behind Brady and Brady goes
to the line, and maybe better yet, Peyton, because when
he went to the line, he's changing the play and
he's pointing out things. I think that would be fascinating.
I think that that would really help us understand. A
tutorial on that's bringing you as close to the line
(32:27):
as scrimmage literally as possible.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (32:30):
The only challenge for them obviously would be not knowing
what the offensive call is. So therefore they can't necessarily
give you all the reads and the checks that they
would make because they don't know exactly what the offense
is trying to do.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So he may be thinking it's going to be one thing,
but the offense is trying to do something else.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
But Tom could tell me what he would be doing,
and that's it. Let's say it's third and ten, so
it's an obvious.
Speaker 12 (32:51):
Yeah, you're just talking about as far as defensive recognition
about what they're doing, what you would be a learning
for Yeah, no doubt, no question about it. Yeah, and
it would, I tell you, it would blow your mind.
Playing quarterback, laye. Quarterback is hard man because there's so
much stuff that they have to know pre snap and
then they can all change. Then it all changes post snap,
and that is that's why.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Look, I always always give.
Speaker 12 (33:14):
Quarterbacks the benefit of doubt, especially when you're talking about
their development, because you have to Football is a participation
development sport. You cannot develop without participating, and you got
to give guys time, especially a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Oh wait, let me get one more questioning, because I'm
up against the commercial breakdown. If the Cowboys beat the Chiefs, yet.
Speaker 12 (33:39):
I think they are gonna be very dangerous here in
the month of December, very dangerous, and you're gonna be
looking at Dallas and talking about can they really make
that push to be a participant in the playoffs. And
if they get in the playoffs, all bets are off
because we all know in single elimination tournaments, teams that
can score points and play defense at the level that
they're playing defense now up front, they are dangerous and
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who knows.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
At the end of the Chiefs R we're going to something.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
If the chief Yeah, I was gonna say that was
my follow up to the follow up, But are the
Chiefs done?
Speaker 4 (34:12):
If they lose on Thursday, well.
Speaker 12 (34:14):
Then they need help, And then you just don't know.
The Chiefs just got to win out. They got to
control their own destiny. They've got to win out. So yeah,
I think if they lose, then it's not in their
hands anymore. So then it's just fifty to fifty. The
Chiefs have to control everything now from here on out,
and the only way they can do that is by
winning every game.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Okay, the follow up to the follow up, did Jerry
Jones make the right decision on Micah Parsons.
Speaker 12 (34:40):
If these guys continue to play the way they're playing
and they're able to maximize the value that they got
from those picks in the coming drafts, it looks like
he may.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Have Yeah, save travels. Thank you, Lewis, Happy Thanksgiving, You
got it.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Thanks a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
That's Lewis Riddick.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
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the first hour of the program.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, sure, ken, we got up there right now. Most
division most likely from the AFC to get a Super
Bowl winner, all right, and we have North, South, East, West,
Obbs right now. The West has about sixty two percent
of that boat. Yeah yeah, followed by the East. What's
the worst division is that the AFC South? That would
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be the South, but very close with the North. Okay,
South and North not looking great?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
All right? The colonel in Tampa, Hey, colonel, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 9 (36:58):
Hey, good morning Dan, Good morning team. Welcome back from
Las Vegas. But that was fun to watch. Just remember
when you're streaming it, it doesn't necessarily stay in Vegas.
But I enjoyed watching Paan Doorra too. Hey, not much
more to say after Marvin yesterday and his worst off.
Pretty tough with the Bucks. But I'm grateful Dan, I'm
(37:21):
grateful for Christian McCaffrey and the win last night over
the Panthers. And I'm grateful and thankful this week to
be in the NFC South as we all are in
Tampa Bay.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
All right, thank you, colonel. Happy Thanksgiving Lucas and Texas. Hi, Luke,
what's on your mind? Hey, dang, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 13 (37:39):
I want to talk about Tom Brady, but real quick,
this Ham Turkey debate that started up yesterday. I was
on team Ham for many years, but my mother in
law recently remarried and her new husband every year we
get a jalapena butter injected air fried turkey, and I
would invite you to have some, but frankly, there's not
going to be any leftover.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
We are team again, all right? All right? That does
go a long way. And what you like for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Because if it's a great turkey, moist turkey, nothing better?
Speaker 4 (38:09):
All right?
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Oh, you wanted to talk about Tom Brady as an analyst.
Oh okay, Sorry, about that. Lucas Marvin hung up on you,
apparently because you're a Ham guy.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
You're John Ham.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
You'll take that Thanksgiving John Ham. Do you know who
John Ham is? Todd is an actor? Okay, I just
want to make sure somebody modern day.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
I prefer Jackham.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
I know, I know. Have you seen John Hamm in anything?
Speaker 9 (38:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
I had him.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
It was in that that TV show with the when
they're all wearing suits and not treating women very nicely
where they were on advertising agency thing.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Did you ever watch it?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I did.
Speaker 6 (38:52):
I watched a few episodes of that, several episodes. Actually,
I can't remember the name of it. But mad Man,
that's mad mad Addison avn you're mad Man. I see
what they did?
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Yeah, you see had a double double meaning there, mad men.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
I don't like the way they were treating the women
on that show, but I guess back then that was acceptable.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah, yes see.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
John Hamm was such a good actor in that show
that he had millions and millions and millions of women
fall in love with a philandering Alcoholicah, that's how good
he was.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
It is kind of interesting in certain movies roles, how
we romanticize the bad guy. We were talking before the show, like,
you watch the Charlie Sheen documentary and you're kind of like, oh, man.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
That Charlie. What a character.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Few people have made his life charming. Somehow he managed
he did it. We're like, ah, Charlie, go on, you're
not smoking crack any You're.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
You're not taking advantage of those women. Worry about it.
But we do this with the mob. How many times
do we watch a mob movie and we root for
the mob? We romanticize, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 14 (39:57):
In The Sopranos, one of the earliest episodes to Frano
is taking his daughter on college tours of the Northeast,
but then he runs into an old mafia guy and
kills him. It's like the greatest episode, but you're rooting
for him in a weird way.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
That's a weird situation.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yeah, you romanticize certain roles, yes, Tod.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Yeah, Tony Soprano was very entertaining and funny and scary,
but you want to hug the guy and he's got
all kinds of psychological issues. He's dealing with the therapist
and somehow, some way he's ordering all these killings.
Speaker 7 (40:25):
But you still loved the guy.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
It was very odd to feel that way.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Chris Collinsworth, Will John is coming up next hour, and
Reggie Miller in the final hour of the program. College
football rankings coming out tonight. We got some action coming
up this weekend. You know that Cowboys Chiefs game, and
I said this yesterday, it'll be one of the top
five highest rated regular season games, I think in history
because and it might be the number one most viewed
(40:51):
regular season football game in history. I'm not sure which
one would be number one, maybe PAULI. During the commercial break,
you can find that that.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Is a huge game, huge game.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
It's the Cowboys on Thanksgiving to start with, and it's
a standalone game, and then you throw in what's at stake,
the Cowboys playing well and the chief season seems to
be on the line.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Every single week.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
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name a few, over four hundred cities in America that
carry this program. All right, Monday Night Football, The Niners
(01:57):
beat the Panthers. They're now eight and four. Are the
Niners good? Are they relevant? Are they threatening? Because I'm
watching and I would say are they good? They're good ish?
Are they relevant? They got Christian McCaffrey. Are they threatening?
I would say no. Rock Party did not look good.
(02:19):
He did not look pretty in the first half. How
about that time?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Okay, I've heard it a couple of times before. Oh
you have you know what it's Thanksgiving week, bloo, you
have your Thanksgiving T shirt on.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
I do have my Thanksgiving teacher. I found it way
in the back of the closet. Could use an ironing,
but I'm.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I mean speaking of repeat material.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
You know it's the holidays.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Let's not Larry Bird. Who else do you have?
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Jack Ham backam We got Mark Eaton out a holiday.
Tim McCarver, good.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Time, Thank you, John the paint. The Panthers now six
and six. The Niners though, at eight and four, and
they're in a tough division. Do I think they're as
good as the Rams know Seattle. No, they're better than
the Cardinals. But you're watching and it's a wounded team.
First of all, they made the mistake with Brandon Ayuk,
(03:12):
who I was thinking thirty million dollars let him go,
and they brought him back. You got rid of debo,
you got Bosa's injured, Fred Warner is injured. I don't
know how they're doing it, but give credit. McCaffrey gives
you a little bit of running, a little bit of
pass receiving. George Kittle has played pretty well. They're just
(03:36):
not threatening, but they will be relevant because of Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Are they good.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
They're good ish and maybe good enough to get into
the postseason, but still you could end up with ten
wins and maybe not get in because Seattle. Seattle's a
really good team and we know the Rams might be
the best team in football. College football rankings coming out
later on tonight, Mac foot All tonight, Baker Mayfield has
(04:02):
a shoulder spring Shardoor Sanders named the starter for the
Cleveland Browns. They play the forty nine ers and they
host the forty nine ers, and JJ McCarthy is in
concussion protocol, and I do believe there's something up with
the Vikings. It's not just the health of JJ McCarthy,
because he was injured all last year's rookie year, then
(04:23):
came back and then they got rid of their backup
quarterbacks and it was all on JJ McCarthy. And we
talked about this at the start of the season. I
talked about the pressure, the most pressure on players coming
into this year, and JJ McCarthy was at the top
of my list, or certainly in that top five, because
(04:44):
it's your team. Even though you didn't get to ease
in to your career, your career starts now. And you're
all of a sudden looking around, going, I've got a
couple of wide receivers here, and my backups are gone.
They have entrusted me with this team that was a
really good team the previous year, And can I maintain
that they got rid of Sam Darnold because of two
(05:07):
games the last two games the regular season in the postseason.
And now you're going to say to JJ McCarthy, not
known as a passing quarterback, certainly in college, and now
you're saying to him, we're going to entrust you with
this offense. And you're lucky you got justin Jefferson Jordan Addison.
Most quarterbacks don't get that luxury. But he's been average
(05:29):
below average. Now he's in concussion protocol, and you start
to wonder bigger picture here with JJ McCarthy, Is he
who the Vikings thought he was? Now, granted it's a
small sample size, but this is the way of the NFL.
Now you get two years, maybe you get three years,
and you either get that long term contract or all
(05:51):
of a sudden, you're going to be a backup quarterback
somewhere and you're going to hit the reset button. It's
too early to say that with jjmc karthy. But he
did get sacked five times. He got hit a total
of ten times in their game against Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
But I don't see it yet.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
There's certain times when I've watched a quarterback and you go, oh,
I get it. There are other times when you go, mmm,
I'm not sure yet. And I'm at that point with
JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I'm just not sure.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
And there are times when he'll make a play and
you go, Wow, that's great. And then there'll be times
when you go, that's not great. I got too many
of those and not enough of Wow, that's great. And
you do have an offensive minded head coach, and so
he has a benefit. I mean, he's got all the
benefits here. Half your games you're playing indoors. Now, granted
(06:46):
you're playing in a tough division. You got maybe the
best receiver in football, but your backups now out Carson
Wentz and the Viking season seems to be all but over.
But watching that, seeing that, and he didn't go into
the blue tent in the game against Green Bay, there
wasn't one hit. I guess he came up to the
(07:07):
coach on the plane ride home and said, I don't
feel well. They put him in concussion protocol. Now that's
not to say he didn't suffer something or get his
bell rung, or maybe stayed in the game. Maybe they
didn't realize that he had on set concussion symptoms there.
But he's out and Minnesota's They're probably going to get
(07:29):
to a crossroads at some point, maybe by the end
of the year on is he our guy? Because right
now it doesn't look like that. All right, Seaton, what's
the poll question for hour one?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, we got a whopper here for hour one.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Okay, division most likely to win the Super Bowl AFC.
Paul just sent this over this morning. This is a whopper.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Now you go through the AFC and see which one.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Oh oh, I didn't know if you were going to say,
like AFC North mostly yeah West there, Yeah, AFC East right.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
West also an option there.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Okay, I'd still say the AFC West. I mean you
got Denver and you got Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I must say AFC East.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Actually, okay, because partially because the Bills are really good,
Patriots also have a very easy schedule, so they can
kind of they might be able to set themselves up
where they really just have to win a couple of
games here, I'll pi to the face that. Plus we
all know the Chiefs aren't making the playoffs anyway.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
So well you did. You did make that prediction at
the start.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Of the year.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's why I've never been more invested in a Cults
game in my entire life. And I it's one of
the few times in recent memory I actually semi yelled
at the TV.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Oh when the Colts let that slip away.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Oh my gosh, dude, Yeah, che Rice grams that ball
across the middle and goes down like God.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
There is that's a game. This is how they win
the Super Bowl. That won stupid.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I know we might look back and go, damn, that's
going to be the game they got to the Super
Bowl again.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Patrick Mahomes gonna be like, you know, after that game,
after the Colts game, we really galvanized, We really came again.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
No, I think he sounds a little bit more like this,
and we're going.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
To get this back together and good.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I think we're gonna be all terrytorrying about it to
win it.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Eight seven seven three DP show operators sitting by Tyler
will take your phone calls and we'll settle on a
pole question. Reggie, Chris collins Worth, who just had his
five hundredth game NFL game, and Lewis Riddick will join
us from the Mothership coming up. By the way, Oklahoma
City is seventeen and one. That's one of those what
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the Pistons have won thirteen in a row? Two years
ago they won a total of fourteen games. They won
thirteen in a row. Just a little basketball there, joker
at another triple double. But we'll talk to some hoops
a little bit later on speaking of basketball. Random text
last night and it came from one of the dan Nets,
and I was like, man, who sent this? At first
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I thought Marvin sent this, and then I realized Seaton
sent it. And he was talking about the Brooklyn Nets
and how irrelevant they are and aside from Michael Porter
junior third, it looks like a college team that got
the death penalty where they took away all their players,
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Like there are certain college teams that I know more
players on their I know more players on Duke than
I do the Brooklyn Nets. And that is kind of
remarkable that you're watching the Brooklyn Nets. And I'm thinking.
Bill Simmons on his podcast said the Columbus Bluejackets are
the most irrelevant professional franchise, and I would argue it's
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the Brooklyn Nets because even though they're in the New
York City area, they are irrelevant and at least Columbus
has had some success. Brooklyn is terrible.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
They were like turning that on that on that game.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I put on Knicks.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Nets for a little bit last night, flipping between a
couple of different games, I was like, who the hell
are these guys?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It did?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It looked like it looked like they were given some
kind of severe penalty where they're like, okay, fine for
this season. Your entire like roster budget is fifteen million dollars.
Michael Porter Junior is no offense to him. That's your guy.
That's the guy that I mean, you're in New York City,
you're in Brooklyn, and that's the guy that you're putting
everything on.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yes, Marvin, they're so irrelevant.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
If they won the NBA Championship, no one would care
in New York, no one. They had Kevin Durant, Kyrie
Irving and James Harden and still no one cared.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Well, they certainly don't care now, oh for sure they don't.
And you're watching and it's such a non descript like
that's where you want at least some kind of relevancy.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
You can be bad, but be relevant.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
And there are certain franchises and certain sports where you
go there's no pulse there, there's nothing there but for
Brooklyn to be that Bland.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Holy spokes, dude, that was crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yes, yes, Marvin and Columbus.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
If the Blue Jackets won the Stanley Cup, that whole
town would be out. Like so they're not irrelevant, they
just might not.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Be that good.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Yeah that I mean, they have a good fan base
when you consider that football in Columbus about the Buckeyes
and high school football. But the Blue Jackets I believe
have a you know, pretty loyal fan base Brooklyn.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
That's where you know, that's where they go. Hey, uh yeah,
I got tickets.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
If anybody want tickets, you know you can get it
for like twenty bucks.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I think you can play for one hundred bucks. You
know they'll let you playing.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Yes, Tom, I think the Brooklyn Cyclones minor league baseball
team has at least as much buzz as than that's
and that's a problem, right.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Uh So Yeah, random text from Seaton last night. You
got bored with the football game. See uped around and
caught some Brooklyn nets basketball.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Not kind of lie.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
It didn't take me very long to get bored at
that game. That's a tough watch.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Three first half picks for Rock Party. Here's Kyle Shanahan
on his quarterback.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
I just had three throws you'd love to take back.
There are all three good decisions, just a hair laid
on them. And when you're a hair laid on stuff,
you can't throw behind him. And he threw it behind him,
and all three guys made him pay. There's no narrative
to the late throw. You're just a little late. And
when you do, which is pepper late a lot, you
just can't throw behind.
Speaker 9 (13:29):
Him when you are.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You had to put it in front of him.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
And he had a little behind him on all three,
and all three of those corners made him pay.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
He had a slight hitch and that's all ticks. That's
the difference between college football.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
In the NFL.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
You can hitch, you can pump, not in the NFL,
not for a timing pattern. And you saw that with
Brock Purty. It was like a and that was it.
And that's all those cornerbacks need because I catch up
a whole lot quicker.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
You know.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Shador Sanders talked about the speed of the NFL that
he's got to get used to the speed. He was
talking about Max Crosby. He said, after the game, why
were you trying to beat the blank out of me?
He goes, that's my job. You know, you have these
guys who are omnipresent, like they're there, and if they're
not there, they're going to get there really, really quickly.
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And that's the difference in the NFL in college. But
I still find these quarterbacks who don't take what's right
in front of them, the easy five yards. And I
forget who we had on, but he talked about Tom
Brady and he said, a hundred out of one hundred
times he's taking the five yard guy who's wide open,
as opposed to the seven or the ten yarder. One
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hundred out of one hundred, he's taken what's right there. Hey,
you're gonna let me have that. I'm gonna take it.
The younger quarterback trying to make a bigger play and
Rock Perdy a split second. And that's what's amazing when
you see this in real time like TV. He puts
it so it's really easy to see and understand and
looks a whole lot easier than what it is when
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you're watching on the sideline. It is, it is so quick.
It's it's far quicker than you can even imagine. But
those who see it and get it done and anticipate
and throw somebody open, those are the greats of all time.
The other ones. That's why you become journeymen, that's why
you become a backup. That's why you get, you know,
kicked out of the league. It's just amazing how they
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do it with that precision. In the NFL. College football, man,
that is fools gold. I mean, Julian Saying is completing
eighty percent of his passes at Ohio State. Unheard of,
but it is college football, and it feels like anybody
who's you know, any anybody who's greatness or good, you know,
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being on that level of being great, being good, good ish,
you've got to complete sixty sixty five percent of your passes.
Because it's all in the NFL. I think Steve Young
completed seventy two percent of his passes one year, which
is unheard of, just because the ability to get something
into a tight window, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
And it's a cheek kobe in a quarterback at Ohio
State because I already have NFL wide receivers in college.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
I still go back to when Justin fields against Ohio
State they were wide O. Like, it was hard to
assess Justin fields because I went, those receivers are wide open.
And then we've seen what's happened to Justin Fields when
he got to the NFL. You don't have those receivers
and you don't have that defense that you're going up against.
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All right, Lewis Riddick from the Mothership will join us
Chris collins Worth a little bit later on in Reggie
Eloisius Miller Junior the Third. Well, take a break, just
getting started on this Tuesday. We're back after this.
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Speaker 5 (17:35):
We'll talk to Lewis Riddick of the Mothership here in
a moment. Lane Kiffin met with the media as he
gets ready for the game Old miss against Mississippi State,
and this is the Egg Bowl, and of course we
want to find out where Lane Kiffin is going to
go or if he's going to stay when he makes
the announcement, and he met with the media and he
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got hit with a couple of really good questions.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
When Keith released a statement on Friday that's saying that you,
him and Chancellor Voice that had a meeting about your future.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Are you able to elaborate on the nature of that
meeting at all?
Speaker 11 (18:08):
Yeah, Like I said at the beginning, very fair question.
But we're not answering anything that doesn't have to do
with the game and the team this season, So but fair.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
Additional Pat McAfee, how you don't make decisions based on money.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
When you do make your decisions, what are the considerations for.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
You then, especially when it comes to football decisions, right, Like,
what are you thinking about?
Speaker 11 (18:28):
Yeah, very fair question, but I'm not going into it because,
like I said at the beginning, I'm gonna keep this
to this team.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
And he says expects a decision on Saturday. Is that
a decision that's been made or is that still in consideration?
Like people were just curious about that.
Speaker 11 (18:45):
Yeah, so I mean you can just keep going. I'm
not going to answer them. So that's three of them.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
You got another one, all right, it's their job. Lane.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
You put yourself in this position. The coach is not
supposed to be the distraction. You are the distraction. These
questions aren't out of nowhere when you send cryptic messages
and pictures and you know your family's here, your family's there,
and flight is going to be here, they're going there.
I would say that was probably a draw between media
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and head coach. Let's bring in Lewis Riddick from the
mother Ship. He'll be on the call for Miami at
Pittsburgh Saturday noon Eastern on ABC.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
What'd you make of that? Back and forth there.
Speaker 12 (19:28):
Yeah, that's Lane, man, that's Lane's just trying to trying
to deflect the questions and not answer him until he,
you know, drops his decision on the rest of us.
As far as we know what exactly it is that
he's planning on doing. You know, it's a look, I mean,
you know what. Look, I've talked to Lane Dan many
many times to cover a bunch of their games. I
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really like the guy, developed a friendship with him. He's
been really good to me as far as you know,
the information that we need to do our jobs.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
But look, he right now is trying to make the
best decision for his football.
Speaker 12 (20:02):
Career and the college football you know, schedule, as far
as when coaches can be talked to, when coaches can
be hired, you know as when you kind of compare
it to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
It's just screwed up.
Speaker 12 (20:13):
He's in a situation right now where really he can't win.
He could make it simpler, you know, if his decision
was simply just to go back to old miss. I mean,
he could obviously simplify this whole thing and put this
whole the whole thing the rest as far as you know,
the speculation surrounding his job. Obviously, it leads you to
believe that you know he hasn't made a decision, or
that he's made a decision, that maybe that is going
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to cause a little bit of let's just say, controversy
as far as maybe what he decides to do. But
I think we're all just gonna have to sit and
wait right now. And you can tell he's having a
hard time trying to keep people off his back until
he actually does make his decision and make it known.
And it's tough, man, it's tough being in this situation
that he's in. Don't I don't envy him because I
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can understand, as far as you know him trying to
make a decision that he feels as though I was
going to set him up to be a national championship
winning head coach at some point down the line. And
that doesn't mean necessarily he can't get that done at
Old Miss.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
But just right now, he's not willing to let us
in on where he's heading with this thing.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
And let's say he goes either lash here or Florida, Yeah,
would you let him coach Ole Miss in the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I'd have a hard time doing it.
Speaker 12 (21:28):
I really would, because obviously it wouldn't be fair to
you know, to his players right now that he has
the roster that he has assembled right now.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
But he does give you the best chance too.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Of course it does. And look, I think what it is.
Speaker 12 (21:43):
It's it's kind of like it's kind of like an
ethics discussion, I guess you you would say here, like,
does he does he have the right to coach a
team up until the very end, up until they get
knocked out of it, given the fact that he is,
in essence kind of decided, hey, look, this isn't the
team ultimately that I want to coach, and that down
the line, I'm looking to move.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
On and go to a different place. I think that.
Speaker 12 (22:04):
I mean, look, if you're if you're the sitting athletic
director or the sitting president of ole miss and he,
let's just say he did decide to go to a
different place, Yeah, I would have a hard time. I
would have a hard time letting him continue to coach
the team, although although he gives the team the best
chance to win a national title with him leading the charge,
of course, yeah, it's it's a it's a very tough
it's a tough situation for everyone involved here, man, and
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I would not want to be in it. And somehow,
some way, the NCAA has to kind of change up
the structure so where you don't you don't have coaches
being put in this situation, and most importantly, you don't
have players and teams being put in this situation.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
There was an incident during the Niners game against the
Panthers when Juwan Jennings got hit in the groin and
he was hit by Trayvon mullrigg okay, and then after
the game he took a swing at Moulrig and then
all of a sudden, people are like, wait a minute,
what's what happened here?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
And then we saw the video where he gets hit
in the groin.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah, what's worse getting hit in the groin or somebody's
spitting in your face?
Speaker 12 (23:09):
Well, I think, look, someone's spitting in your face. I
think you've heard many people talk about this, Dan, I mean,
that's the ultimate. It's the ultimate show of disrespect getting
hit in the groin, someone purposely taking a shot. You're going, look,
it's all the same to me when someone's trying to
butt you, know, to hurt you in a very meaningful way,
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and when someone's trying to disrespect you in a very
meaningful way. Look, those those are just lines you just
don't cross on the football field, and all the things,
all bets are off after that, they just are I
think Mike Tomlin put it perfectly when I guess a
reporter asked him, how are you advising your players if
someone were to spit in your face? I think he
you know, I'm kind of paraphrasing where he said, Look,
you just do what comes naturally to you.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
At that point, and someone hits you.
Speaker 12 (23:52):
In the groin, Dan, or someone spits in your face,
I would tell you the same thing or anyone else,
do what comes naturally and I'll back you from there.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Would you be playing Joe Burrow if you're the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I think it looks sometimes
we know this.
Speaker 12 (24:08):
We know players need to be protected from themselves, Like
the Bengals aren't going anywhere as far as twenty twenty five,
and I know, like, look, this is the highest form
of competition when it comes to pro football, and you're
being paid to do a job, and Joe Burrow's being
paid handsomely but at the same time, I'm trying to
look out for his long term future and the long
term future of the Bengals, and I don't think it's
served by putting him out there and a season that
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right now isn't going anywhere. I just wouldn't want to
risk further injury. I know he could get injured at
any time. It is football, It's what he's paid to do.
But I wouldn't put him out there. I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
But he wants to be out there. Yeah, I know
your fan base is paying to see him out there. Yeah,
you can't bubble wrap him.
Speaker 12 (24:46):
That's true. That is true. I understand that. But we're
talking about one of the elite of the elites that Look,
I guess what I would really need to know here is,
and I say this numerous I've said this numerous different times,
one of the most important aspects of an organization is
your medical department, your doctors, your trainers, your rehab specialists.
I would actually want to know, Look, what is the
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risk of playing this young man and putting him back
out there on the football field in the season that's
not going anywhere. Am I risking his long term future?
That I've invested so much in by putting him back
out there, what's the risk of injuring him to the
degree where it compromises his long term future with our organization?
Those are That's where I would probably wind up leaning
on the most. But sitting here on the outside looking in,
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I would probably be like, Look, we're gonna look forward
to twenty twenty six with you, Joe.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Talking to Lewis Riddick of the motherships. You got Miami
at Pittsburgh, And I brought this up a little bit
with Notre Dame in Miami Miami Beach, Notre Dame starting
the season, Notre Dame is ranked higher. Where do you
stand with that? Should Notre Dame be ranked higher than Miami?
Given the head to head?
Speaker 12 (25:54):
Look, I think there's a lot left to be played out. Still, Okay,
at this point, do I think they should be being
compared in the same pod as the as the.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Committee talked about? Yeah, I do.
Speaker 12 (26:04):
I think they should be. I understand that they're they're
saying that, look, Notre Dame's losses, or rather Miami's losses
are worse than Notre Dame's losses, and that's why maybe
they are. There is a little bit of a gap
between where they are putting them right now and that
they're not evaluating them in the same pod. Then why
would why would any team ever want to schedule tough
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games in the beginning of the season anymore if early
season wins don't count the same as late season wins.
I mean, that's an argument Miami can make, in an
argument that Miami should make. I think in the end,
after this weekend is all settled up, we're gonna see
whether or not that early season win really did mean
something for Miami if they are able to get past
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Pittsburgh on Saturday and beat them convincingly, and then we
can wind up having this you know, this conversation once again.
I think head to head should matter no matter when
you play it. I don't like the the whole idea
of the that the that the let's say say that
the value of that win diminishes over time. I don't
believe that. I do believe that teams can improve and
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teams can also become worse as the season goes along.
But head to head matt has to mean something regardless
of when it was played. And there's gonna be a
lot of other objective factors that go into this decision,
which a lot of times it seems like that's a
sliding scale that they use whatever they need to use
in order to justify what their eyes are telling them.
And that's why this whole thing's kind of a mess.
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When you can't ultimately decide things on the football field,
then you're always gonna have disagreements.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
You just are.
Speaker 12 (27:34):
But that head to head is something I'm telling you
has to have become a factor.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
It has to be a factor after this weekend is over.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Twenty minutes ago, I was talking about Rock Purty. He
hesitated on all three of those throws in the first half.
He threw interceptions, and I said, in college, you can
get away with hesitate. Hesitate, then throw, you can double pump.
I mean you have time. In the NFL, you don't
have time. Right Like, as soon as he paused, I went,
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oh my gosh, and then he threw the interceptions. You
played defensive back in the NFL. You got to throw
guys open and they don't stay open very long. But
that precision is what makes quarterbacks great. And the guys
who don't aren't able to do that. The younger quarterbacks
who think they can do what they did in college.
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I mean, that's the death of you. So can you
explain that though of throwing that receiver open as a
defensive back facing these receivers in quarterbacks.
Speaker 12 (28:34):
Yeah, Look the great guys who patrolled the middle of
the field, in particular the safeties, even linebackers. But that's
where you see the interceptions. That's where you see the
lack of anticipation on the part of quarterbacks really come
home to bite them. It's when they're trying to throw
those big fifteen eighteen yard incuts that are coming in
right inside the hass right behind a second level defender
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or right in front of a safety who's coming downhill.
And that's where a lot of times it's not open
when you throw it, but you're banking on the fact
that the receiver is going to be exactly where you
expect him to be, and I'm gonna put the ball
exactly where there is enough time for the receiver to
make the catch and protect himself before that safety is
able to anticipate where I'm you know that I'm letting
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both go of this ball and he's going to be
driving downhill. So those those quarterbacks that are able to
do that. I mean, you're right, the windows are about
one foot by one foot. They're trying to fit them
into a tiny little box. And if he hitches at all,
if he hesitates at all, and it gives me that
extra step that when he takes his hand off of
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that ball, When he takes his hand off of the
ball and he lets it go, that's usually when I'm
trying to break. Okay, as a middle of the field defender,
if he pauses this for a second, he's given me
another step in order to get there to either make
the interception or have Back in the day it was
a big blow up shot, which now you can't do.
But maybe you're giving me that extra second to get there.
And so yeah, you have to be for you have
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to be sure when you let that ball go. And
even when you let it go on time, there are
great safeties and great linebackers who are still gonna be
able to make the play. But that's that's the that's
the cost of doing business. When you're throwing the football
in the middle of the field like that, if there's
any hesitation, you are really putting the ball at harm's way.
I heard Kurt Warner talking about this where I read
him talking about this, you know, on on social media.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I believe it was either last night or this morning.
Speaker 12 (30:23):
Nobody threw the deep in cut better than Kurt Warner, nobody,
And he says, look, sometimes it burned me. Sometimes even
when I let it go on time, the DV still
made the play. But I can guarantee you this. If
you don't let it go on time and they do
get a break, you're cooked. And that's what was happening
in the brock. I mean, that's I think. Did you
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did you talk about the fact that, look, you know what,
and I've said this too, fans should watch a game
or have the chance to watch a game from behind
the from the quarterbacks vantage point field level to see
what they see and see just how hard it is
to do what you're talking about. And quite honestly, most fans,
or most average football players, high school college football players
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wouldn't throw a lot of the throws that these guys
throw because it never looks open. You never look like
there's an open window. But you have to trust it
and you have to let it go. And look, that's
why these guys get paid what they're paid, and that's
why the error. The margin for error is like slim
and none.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
But this is what I wanted Tom Brady to do
or Peyton Manning to do, is have the camera behind
the offensive line and actually put us right there in
the moment. So Tom is going to say, I see
the mic linebacker there, this guy's coming. This guy's going
to act like he's coming. You know, we got safeties here.
(31:43):
So if he tells me that in real time, yeah,
that's the experience I want to hear from Brady or
Peyton so we do understand that. I tell my audience
all the time, if you saw the game from the
sidelines in real speed, you would be shocked how fast
it is. Like TV, it helps us, you know, focus.
(32:05):
It's incredible how fast and how violent the game is.
But if you put me behind Brady and Brady goes
to the line, and maybe better yet, Peyton, because when
he went to the line, he's changing the play and
he's pointing out things. I think that would be fascinating.
I think that that would really help us understand. A
tutorial on that's bringing you as close to the line
(32:27):
as scrimmage literally as possible.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (32:30):
The only challenge for them obviously would be not knowing
what the offensive call is. So therefore they can't necessarily
give you all the reads and the checks that they
would make because they don't know exactly what the offense
is trying to do.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So he may be thinking it's going to be one thing,
but the offense is trying to do something else.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
But Tom could tell me what he would be doing,
and that's it. Let's say it's third and ten, so
it's an obvious.
Speaker 12 (32:51):
Yeah, you're just talking about as far as defensive recognition
about what they're doing, what you would be a learning
for Yeah, no doubt, no question about it. Yeah, and
it would, I tell you, it would blow your mind.
Playing quarterback, laye. Quarterback is hard man because there's so
much stuff that they have to know pre snap and
then they can all change. Then it all changes post snap,
and that is that's why.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Look, I always always give.
Speaker 12 (33:14):
Quarterbacks the benefit of doubt, especially when you're talking about
their development, because you have to Football is a participation
development sport. You cannot develop without participating, and you got
to give guys time, especially a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Oh wait, let me get one more questioning, because I'm
up against the commercial breakdown. If the Cowboys beat the Chiefs, yet.
Speaker 12 (33:39):
I think they are gonna be very dangerous here in
the month of December, very dangerous, and you're gonna be
looking at Dallas and talking about can they really make
that push to be a participant in the playoffs. And
if they get in the playoffs, all bets are off
because we all know in single elimination tournaments, teams that
can score points and play defense at the level that
they're playing defense now up front, they are dangerous and
(34:03):
who knows.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
At the end of the Chiefs R we're going to something.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
If the chief Yeah, I was gonna say that was
my follow up to the follow up, But are the
Chiefs done?
Speaker 4 (34:12):
If they lose on Thursday, well.
Speaker 12 (34:14):
Then they need help, And then you just don't know.
The Chiefs just got to win out. They got to
control their own destiny. They've got to win out. So yeah,
I think if they lose, then it's not in their
hands anymore. So then it's just fifty to fifty. The
Chiefs have to control everything now from here on out,
and the only way they can do that is by
winning every game.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Okay, the follow up to the follow up, did Jerry
Jones make the right decision on Micah Parsons.
Speaker 12 (34:40):
If these guys continue to play the way they're playing
and they're able to maximize the value that they got
from those picks in the coming drafts, it looks like
he may.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Have Yeah, save travels. Thank you, Lewis, Happy Thanksgiving, You
got it.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Thanks a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
That's Lewis Riddick.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
He'll be on the call Miami at Pittsburgh Saturday at
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Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, sure, ken, we got up there right now. Most
division most likely from the AFC to get a Super
Bowl winner, all right, and we have North, South, East, West,
Obbs right now. The West has about sixty two percent
of that boat. Yeah yeah, followed by the East. What's
the worst division is that the AFC South? That would
(36:47):
be the South, but very close with the North. Okay,
South and North not looking great?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
All right? The colonel in Tampa, Hey, colonel, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 9 (36:58):
Hey, good morning Dan, Good morning team. Welcome back from
Las Vegas. But that was fun to watch. Just remember
when you're streaming it, it doesn't necessarily stay in Vegas.
But I enjoyed watching Paan Doorra too. Hey, not much
more to say after Marvin yesterday and his worst off.
Pretty tough with the Bucks. But I'm grateful Dan, I'm
(37:21):
grateful for Christian McCaffrey and the win last night over
the Panthers. And I'm grateful and thankful this week to
be in the NFC South as we all are in
Tampa Bay.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
All right, thank you, colonel. Happy Thanksgiving Lucas and Texas. Hi, Luke,
what's on your mind? Hey, dang, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 13 (37:39):
I want to talk about Tom Brady, but real quick,
this Ham Turkey debate that started up yesterday. I was
on team Ham for many years, but my mother in
law recently remarried and her new husband every year we
get a jalapena butter injected air fried turkey, and I
would invite you to have some, but frankly, there's not
going to be any leftover.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
We are team again, all right? All right? That does
go a long way. And what you like for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Because if it's a great turkey, moist turkey, nothing better?
Speaker 4 (38:09):
All right?
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Oh, you wanted to talk about Tom Brady as an analyst.
Oh okay, Sorry, about that. Lucas Marvin hung up on you,
apparently because you're a Ham guy.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
You're John Ham.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
You'll take that Thanksgiving John Ham. Do you know who
John Ham is? Todd is an actor? Okay, I just
want to make sure somebody modern day.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
I prefer Jackham.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
I know, I know. Have you seen John Hamm in anything?
Speaker 9 (38:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
I had him.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
It was in that that TV show with the when
they're all wearing suits and not treating women very nicely
where they were on advertising agency thing.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Did you ever watch it?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I did.
Speaker 6 (38:52):
I watched a few episodes of that, several episodes. Actually,
I can't remember the name of it. But mad Man,
that's mad mad Addison avn you're mad Man. I see
what they did?
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Yeah, you see had a double double meaning there, mad men.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
I don't like the way they were treating the women
on that show, but I guess back then that was acceptable.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah, yes see.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
John Hamm was such a good actor in that show
that he had millions and millions and millions of women
fall in love with a philandering Alcoholicah, that's how good
he was.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
It is kind of interesting in certain movies roles, how
we romanticize the bad guy. We were talking before the show, like,
you watch the Charlie Sheen documentary and you're kind of like, oh, man.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
That Charlie. What a character.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Few people have made his life charming. Somehow he managed
he did it. We're like, ah, Charlie, go on, you're
not smoking crack any You're.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
You're not taking advantage of those women. Worry about it.
But we do this with the mob. How many times
do we watch a mob movie and we root for
the mob? We romanticize, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 14 (39:57):
In The Sopranos, one of the earliest episodes to Frano
is taking his daughter on college tours of the Northeast,
but then he runs into an old mafia guy and
kills him. It's like the greatest episode, but you're rooting
for him in a weird way.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
That's a weird situation.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yeah, you romanticize certain roles, yes, Tod.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Yeah, Tony Soprano was very entertaining and funny and scary,
but you want to hug the guy and he's got
all kinds of psychological issues. He's dealing with the therapist
and somehow, some way he's ordering all these killings.
Speaker 7 (40:25):
But you still loved the guy.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
It was very odd to feel that way.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Chris Collinsworth, Will John is coming up next hour, and
Reggie Miller in the final hour of the program. College
football rankings coming out tonight. We got some action coming
up this weekend. You know that Cowboys Chiefs game, and
I said this yesterday, it'll be one of the top
five highest rated regular season games, I think in history
because and it might be the number one most viewed
(40:51):
regular season football game in history. I'm not sure which
one would be number one, maybe PAULI. During the commercial break,
you can find that that.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Is a huge game, huge game.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
It's the Cowboys on Thanksgiving to start with, and it's
a standalone game, and then you throw in what's at stake,
the Cowboys playing well and the chief season seems to
be on the line.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Every single week.
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