December 2, 2025 • 43 mins
DP and the Danettes recap the Patriots' dominant MNF win over the Giants. 3x Super Bowl champ Devin McCourty warns Jaxson Dart's bruising QB style is flirting with danger and says he would have wanted Lane Kiffin to continue coaching through the playoffs if he was Ole Miss. Pro Football Hall of Famer Steve Young sees a troubling trend in college football with his alma mater BYU right in the middle of it, and praises Drake Maye's poise.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's our one on this Tuesday. Still fighting whatever I
had in Las Vegas. It's not going away, just like Fritzy,
always going to be there, but we'll battle it together.
The voice trying to hold up here. Fritzy's got a
smile on his face, Dylan's in for Seaton, Marvin's here,
Paul yours truly in the backroom, guys. I told you
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it was going to happen, and it did. Standalone game
Drake May, he was in second place with DraftKings MVP
odds to Matthew Stafford, Drake May is now your favorite
to win the MVP. What I love about Drake May,
and there's a lot to like about him, is there's
not a high high and low low. You get really
consistent numbers with him. He has not had a passing
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game under two hundred yards. He hasn't had a passing
game over three hundred yards. I love that there's this
window and he's the passing leader right now in the NFL.
I like that you don't have to do too much,
but you got to do enough. And they're a really
good team. Now we can say the Giants aren't a
really good team, but you'd be correct with that at
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two and eleven. So I'm looking at New England now,
best record in the AFC. They host Buffalo, they're at Baltimore,
They're at the Jets, and then they host Miami.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Let's say they.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Go two and two, maybe three and one, okay, getting
the home field advantage. They're not afraid of anybody coming
to town. If Kansas City's not in the mix, Baltimore
might not be in the mix. Are you worried about
Denver coming in? The Colts Jacksonville? So I would say
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right now what New England has done. Certainly Mike Rabel
that he is the third coach to win ten and
more at ten game winning streak since Jim Caldwell and
nine Steve Mariucci in nineteen ninety seven. Staut of the
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Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yes, Paul, you know it's funny, weirdly funny to watch
on social media when the Patriots are lighting up last
night and their quarterback looks like an MVP candidate.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Like people who don't.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Like the Patriots are responding like it wasn't long enough
that the dip of the Patriots, the post Brady post
Belichick dip, it wasn't long enough. They had like what
two bad years, four and thirteen, four and thirteen. Now
they're back atop the AFC after twenty years of high
end play. They needed more of a break. It's like
the Bulls when Jordan left and they had Marcus Pfizer.
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You need some down years.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I thought that they had a round a four or
five year run when Belichick was hanging on there and.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
They had cooled off.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah, they in two thousand and one they were ten
and seven, made the playoffs. Who they're eight to nine
miss the playoffs? Then four and thirteen, four and thirteen,
But OK, it's way too quick to be back up top.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You're right that they found their coach and they found
their quarterback. And if you have that in the NFL,
you are ahead of the game. You're ahead of eighty
five percent of the other teams. You got an MVP candidate,
and you got probably the coach of the year with
Mike Rabel. And you look at every time I see
Mike Brabel, I go, now, why didn't Tennessee want to
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keep him, tell me or did he want to stay?
And you know, ownership new ownership and they didn't want
But Mike Brabel, I've said this before, in't coach whatever sport.
You know, he can coach whatever team I got, doesn't matter. Yes, Dylan,
how how long do you think until we start hating Drake?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Mike Rabel?
Speaker 6 (03:49):
Like two and a half years of sustained success.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I don't I think you got to win first? Yeah,
I think you got to win time. We don't hate
teams that don't win titles.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
If they rip off a couple of Super Bowls in
the next fight.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Well yeah, then then you're allowed to hate them. Yeah,
and they would probably expect that. But there's nothing about
Drake May where you go, Man, I hate that guy
or his attitude or anything. I mean handing out turkeys
during the week for Thanksgiving. I mean, come on, it
seems like next door. And then go out and play
like he did against the Giants. By the way, Jackson
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Dart please, you know, tough guys don't last, not at
that position.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
In the NFL.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Get out of bounds, and.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I'm gonna talk to Steve Young about this because he
learned to get out of bounds. But you know these
defensive players, you know they they want you to stay
in bounce. They want to hit you. And all of
a sudden, you got a chance to pop him, and
he's not going to get out of bound. You get
whatever you deserve. If he didn't get up, I'd say
that's your fault.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Here is Jackson Dark And it starts with the reporter's question.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Well, it sounds like a broken record, Jackson, just asking
you about the hits and taking them and protecting yourself
and things like that.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Is there anything you would have.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Done different on that one?
Speaker 7 (05:13):
No, look like I understand the question, but like this
is like this is football, Like I'm gonna get hit
if I'm in the pocket or outside the pocket. Like
it's I don't I feel like I've played this way
my whole entire life. This shouldn't be like any shock
or anybody. If you've followed along with my career and
(05:34):
I'm we're not playing like we're not playing soccer out here,
Like you're gonna get hit.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Things happen.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
It's part of the game, Okay, The violence is part
of the game. Your goal as a quarterback is to
eliminate the opportunities for violence on your body getting sacked.
Just go down live to see another play. Get out
of bounds. Here's Mike Rabel on the hit on Jackson Dart.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
It's a weekly reminder to the quarterback, our quarterback, you know,
I mean, we show him every week.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
I wouldn't get too cute over there by the sidelines.
It happens every week.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
And so Christian's playing, you know, through the whistle, and
as long as the players in bounds, he's going to
try to hit him legally.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And he did.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And once again, you can just get out of bounds.
You don't have to be a tough guy. Tough guy
is playing every single week. A tough guy plays seventeen games.
That's what your goal should be, not Hey did you
see me run over that defensive back. And I've seen
way too many quarterbacks think they're tough enough to do this,
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and they're not. They're not built that way. These guys
are ready to hit you. They know how to hit you,
and they want to hurt you. If you're a quarterback,
get out of bounds.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yes, Pauline.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
If you watch a hit by Christian Ellis, Jackson Dart
is not going out a bout. He's not doing that
like ease up. We're all agreeing that I'm turning towards
the sidelines. He's still going forward and Christian Ellis, you know,
you can't hit him in the pocket, you can't hit
him low, you can't really hit him high. This is
your opportunity to declete someone, and these guys are gonna
take it. And Aikman said it was a legal play.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Ben Aikman said that Jackson Dart has got to change
his style, and that's coming from a guy who had
multiple concussions and ended his career sooner than he probably
wanted to. But I like Jackson Dart's energy. I like
what he's given to the team. But I just want
you to harness that and use it when you need
to use that, yes, Martin.
Speaker 9 (07:39):
Yeah, Unfortunately, now when I watch Jackson Dart, I look
at him the way we do to it, where every
time he gets you start wincing when he starts running
like slide please, because now all we think of is
the concussions more so than your quarterback play.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, poly and totally being a tough guy when it's necessary.
If it's the fourth quarter of week seventeen, and you're
trying to get in the playoffs. Be a tough guy,
put your head down, get plays. You're two and ten
in a football game that doesn't really matter. Let's let's
make some nice throws and get out of here for
next year.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, it's surprising. And you know, Brian Dabele, maybe part
of the reason why I lost his job is they
were doing design runs for Jackson Dart and he had
a couple of concussions or games where there were concussion
symptoms there and in the blue tent, I gotta protect
my quarterback. I think the Giants have found their quarterback.
(08:33):
I think he's really good, but he hasn't learned anything.
And that's what scares me. Just like he said, Hey,
anybody who knows how I play, now, his dad, you know,
played that way. Dad was a tough guy, defensive player.
Your quarterback. The ability to be available. That's the key
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for these quarterbacks. Look at the number of injuries at
that position, and they're protecting the quarterback the best thing
that will give you an idea of just how violent
the game is. But watching Jackson Dart and I thought, oh,
is he gonna try to do a Mahomes where he
dances down the sideline, the defensive player can't hit him,
and then all of a sudden he got popped, and
I go, Okay, if that doesn't get his attention, then
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nothing's gonna get his attention. And as we heard from
him after the game, it's not sinking in.
Speaker 10 (09:23):
Yes, Todd, and you think you're being selfless, well, you're
actually being selfish because there's so much invested in you
and they want this guy to be their quarterback for
the future. To try to get that extra yard or too,
you gotta kind of think ahead a little bit that
this organization has got so much invested in you. It's
not about getting an extra yard or two. It's not
the end of the fourth quarter of a playoff game
where you've got to pick up that first down of
the game's overraving.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I don't know if his teammates are gonna go, oh,
did you see him get out of bounds? Come on,
nobody's gonna say that, just walk out of bounds if
you get one extra yard. I don't know if your
team with two wins goes yes, now, yes, now we're back.
Like you're you're just getting experience. That's all you're doing.
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It's getting information here to take into next year. Maybe
you get a new head coach, but you do have
some positives here. Scataboo Malik neighbors a couple of defensive players. Okay,
you might be able to be competitive, but how about
you get ready for next season? Not I'm gonna show
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these guys. Wow, you really showed the Patriots get out
of bounds.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, Paul, I was watching the Manning cast for a
little bit and they were discussing that the Dart hit
and they showed a clip. You know, they always bag
on Peyton Manning, and they showed Manning avoiding a sack
where he just kind of laid down. But I don't think.
I don't know who said it on his paint or Eli.
Peyton's first ten years in the league, he didn't mess
a start, and he said, he goes. My job is
to not get hit. We paid about millions of dollars
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to offensivelignment to keep me from getting hit.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I'm not going to volunteer to get hit.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But every week we find this, there'll be a quarterback
who wants to take on somebody, and boy are they waiting. Yes, Dylan, Well,
there's also like elusivity guys, and.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Like Jackson, like Lamar is elusive.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
He runs a lot, but he doesn't take these like
huge hits that like Jackson, Dart, Josh Allen, some of
those guys.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
But even Lamar Jackson's not running anywhere near what he
used to now, Like it's far more strategic there.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Josh Allen is a unicorn, okay, because he's as big
as the guys who are trying to hit him, and
he's he's delivering a blow. But that's just different. You know,
he's the second coming of Cam Newton when it comes
to running the football. But these other quarterbacks, you think
it's great for morale and you want to show your
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teammates you're tough. You'll show them that you're tough by
playing every single game. That's really hard to do. Not
many quarterbacks go wire to wire each season, play all
seventeen games and then maybe you play in the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (12:02):
Yes, Mark, Yeah, And it's weird to say this, but
he's he wants to be known as a football player.
We want you to be known as a quarterback, Like,
don't use those shoulder pads. And it's hard because I'm
sure in the culture he grew up in being raised
by a football guy. He thinks of himself as a
football player. No, no, the rest of you guys are quarterbacks.
I'm here to play football and that's not with the NFL.
(12:22):
No No, we want you to use those the arms,
not the shoulder pads, to throw the ball, not to
try to run people over.
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Speaker 2 (13:11):
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Speaker 3 (13:27):
If you were on Old Miss right.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Now and you took a team vote of keeping Lane
Kiffin on as your coach in the playoffs, you would
vote how.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
I would vote to keep him on.
Speaker 12 (13:40):
I think as a young player, when I was in college,
the opportunity to win a national championship, I would want
everything to stay as much of the same as it
could be, And I think I follows those guys. I
would also be planning for what's next. Do I want
to stay at Old Miss? Do I want to lead
but year?
Speaker 6 (14:00):
And then now?
Speaker 12 (14:00):
I would say, let's go win a national championship and
then decide what happens next.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, but he's basically saying he can't win a national
title at Old Miss. That's why he's going dow NSU.
If the money is around the same and LSU has
better resources, that he can't win a national title with you,
even though you're gonna be in the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 12 (14:22):
But I think the hard thing is, but then who
coaches you? Like those guys that are on staff. If
you stay, there's no promise that the next coach that
comes in is going to be able to coach. I
remember my senior year, Cincinnati makes it to a BCS
Bowl game. They're gonna play against the Florida Gators. Brian
Kelly leaves and goes in Norre Dame. It's a whole
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mess the whole time leading up to the game. And
those guys on Cincinnati I trained with him. They felt
like if he stayed, they were to beat Florida. I disagree,
but they had a better chance knowing their staff would
still be intact.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
But how many players nowadays go to a college or
they go to play for a coach.
Speaker 12 (15:03):
You go to play for a coach, there's no doubt
about it. I just think you get sold on the college.
But when you get there right away, you see life's
about football and everything else comes after that. And that
goes for all major sports. So you better like that
coach and he better like you if you're going to
stay there and play.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Okay, So former defenship back and a well decorated defensive back,
Jackson Dart is running down the sidelines and you're taught
to do what if you see him maybe kind of
sort of still in bounce.
Speaker 12 (15:38):
Yeah, I mean, for one, what it hit last night.
But the thing is, I was just talking about this earlier.
You study film, so when you look at the film
as a dB, as a linebacker, I would come into
the game saying, if Jackson darts on the sideline, we
need to be going. We need to be ready to
go over there and take Jackson dart out because the
film has showed us he he's probably not stepping out
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of bounds. And me being in New England for thirteen years,
I'm pretty sure they went over that and said, when
this guy gets on the sideline, don't break stride, don't
slow down because he's probably not stepping out of bounds.
And that's exactly what the play was last night.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But then after the game he said, this is how
I play. This is I'm going to continue to play
this way. What advice would you give him? Having witnessed
that hit in person and having played you know, defensive
back for thirteen years.
Speaker 12 (16:30):
I would tell him if he's really going to do that,
I would tell him he's a damn fool. Like it's
just it's not going to last in the NFL. I
think a part of that was I'm not going to
back down. I'm going to say all of this.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
I do believe he's.
Speaker 12 (16:44):
Going to change some things up because I think even
as a teammate, if I'm on the offensive line, my
job is to protect you.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
I need you to help me protect you.
Speaker 12 (16:53):
I don't want to get fined and get fifteen yard
penalties because we're attacking guys for hitting you when you
should just step out. So I do think he'll make
the adjustment he needs.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
To be out there. I think the speed surprises him.
Speaker 12 (17:05):
Sometimes he thinks he has a step and then the
next thing he knows he's getting hit because these guys
are a lot faster.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
America seems in love with Drake May.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
How does that change? Where we've seen this with New
England quarterbacks before, where hey, what a great story and
then all of a sudden they turn on you. How
long does that last? Where Drake May and the Patriots
playing this well that it's still a good story and
everybody likes Drake May.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
I think it last.
Speaker 12 (17:36):
I think that the unique thing about Drake May I
got to be up there doing the preseason games his
rookie year, was this kid is the youngest of a
bunch of brothers who were really good in sports. His
brother Luke May won a national championship when North Carolina.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
As a basketball player, and he talked about it, He's like.
Speaker 12 (17:54):
They used to beat me up, they used to punish me,
they used to like everything was hard for him. And
I think you can see his teammates love that about him.
He's so poised, nothing bothers him. And I think the
unique thing about Drake May is the same thing that
Mac Jones had his rookie year, is the offensive coordinator
Josh McDaniel's. And I think Josh will be there longer
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than just his rookie year like Mac Jones had to
go through.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
I think this is.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
A great relationship and I think he has a chance
to be there for a while and developed Drake May.
And I've talked to Josh. He's in love with Drake May.
Just as much as the rest of.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Us health threatening are the Patriots.
Speaker 12 (18:34):
I think in a AFC this year where it's wide open,
the Patriots are just as good as anybody. They have
right now the best chance to me because being there
last night, that atmosphere is different, different than even when
I was there. When I was there, it was we're
expected to be here. We'll show up in the ANFC
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Championship and cheer. If the game's close, we'll go crazy
and help you out. Being in an atmosphere after two
bad seasons, you could see the fans were like, man,
we thought we were gonna have to wait maybe fifteen
years to be good again.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
And their energy, the way they're showing up to.
Speaker 12 (19:13):
The stadium early, staying the whole game, I think they
feel like, hey, we got to give this team this
boost because we had no idea we'd be this good
right now.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Talking to Devin mccordy, he works for Football Night in America,
three time Super Bowl champ with the Patriots, three time
All Pro Football Night in America. They will give you
the Texans and the Chiefs, and coverage starts at seven Eastern.
What advice would you give Drake May about playoff football
as supposed to regular season football.
Speaker 12 (19:44):
I would tell him exactly what I heard for thirteen years.
Belichick would come in and he would say, let me
just dispel all these stupid myths out there, like the
whole experience matters. Experience doesn't matter at all. Who I
was playing the best football is what matters. And he
would always tell us, do more. Put everything else in
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the draw, watch the extra film, do all those little things,
because if you can play your best football, no matter
if you're a rookie, first year, twelve year vet, no
matter if you've played in the playoffs before, if you've
never played in the playoffs, he would tell you, if
you go and play good ball, that's what determines your
playoff journey, Not that you've played in twenty games or
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ten games, no one cares about.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
That would be the first thing I told him.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Ever late for a meeting with the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Nah, man, they cut people and sent people home for
being late. I wanted my money.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Wait, have you did you witness somebody getting cut?
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Yeah, we had a guy who.
Speaker 12 (20:53):
Came late Saturday my second year, second or third year,
and they didn't cut him that Saturday, but Tuesday after
the Sunday and he was inactive and the next.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Tuesday he was gone.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
And I saw guys get sent home for being late
all the time.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Who told us the story about they faked being in
a car accident because they were going to be late
with the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
And do you remember that Pollie we're checking? Was that
Scott Zolac or something. I don't I forget who we had.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
On This sounds like a Zolac story.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, because you had to have a good story because
if you didn't, you were going to be in trouble,
and especially if you were a secondary guy on that team.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Dan, he told us the story. It was a former
Patriots old lineman, Rich Omburger. He said he intentionally got
into an accident because he knew he was late and
he wanted a real excuse.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
We had a guy Kyle Aaronton Carr.
Speaker 12 (21:55):
It was snowed, his car couldn't get out of the
parking lot. He hitch hiped to work just in fear
of being late, went out on the road and stood
there and asked somebody, Hey, I played for the Patriots.
You mind dropping me off the street out of Patriot Place.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So the AFC is open right now, it feels like
and if the Patriots get the home field advantage, I
don't think they're and the Chiefs don't make the playoffs,
or the Ravens don't make the playoffs, or even if
they do, doesn't feel like anybody scares them, including the
Buffalo Bills, who they have coming up this next game.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (22:34):
I think they already went to Buffalo and won, and
I think right now they've gotten this rhythm. And I
think even going off last week they go play Cincinnati
and it just felt like this past week Rabel was
just tearing into them. And I don't know that for sure,
but the way they came out Monday night felt like
it was a response to them feeling like they didn't
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play their best ball the week before in Cincinnati. And
I think I remember being on those teams that made
that run. It was all about after Thanksgiving, how did
we just play our best football. We had seasons where
we didn't give up a second half touchdown in games,
you know, from the second week in December all the
way through winning a super Bowl, like those things that
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you can do and be special in that makes a difference,
and this team just feels like they're moving in that direction.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
More concerned about the Chiefs are the Eagles.
Speaker 12 (23:32):
I'm more concerned about the Eagles. I think for the Chiefs,
the truth of the matter is everyone else around them
just got better. I think this Chiefs team is actually
better than the team last year that made it.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
To the Super Bowl. But the Broncos are better. The
Chargers are better the.
Speaker 12 (23:49):
Indianapolis Colt like you look at all these other teams
that got better.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
The Eagles. To me, they're just underachieving. And I kind
of was like, Hey, don't get too concerned.
Speaker 12 (24:02):
Until last week when I watched Chicago beat Philly. At
what Philly does the best, their defensive line, their front,
they pushed them around. That was alarming for me, and
I think they need to fix that right away.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Always good to talk to you, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Thank you Devin, anytime man, Good talking to you.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Devin mccordy.
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Speaker 2 (24:33):
I think he's the best NFL analyst in America. He's
a Hall of Famer. He's Steve Young, three times Super
Bowl champ. Back on the program, I thought about you
with BYU, with your head coach and perhaps maybe mutual
interest with Penn State. So let me ask you the
question that old miss LSU have had to deal with.
(24:54):
How would you feel if you're a head coach? What
happened to take a job while the season still going on.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Well, first of all, something's really wrong that allows for
this kind of madness, you know, so we got to
fix that. I don't know, you know, I don't know
how to fix it. They got to fix that. It's insane.
It would be super painful. I mean, there's a there's
a symbiotic kind of beautiful thing going on between, you know,
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everything by U and Klane and what he's doing, and
there's like and I think he has the love for
it too, So the pain would be a pretty extreme.
I suspect that everything's being done on the other side
to try to make sure that everything gets you know,
that he stays. But I guess that in some ways, Dan,
it's cool that, you know, b Yu. Then there's the
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Big twelve and obviously super competitive and looks like they
can do something really you know, consistently pretty well that
the Penn State wants our coach. I mean, that's a
that's a cool thing too in some ways. So I mean,
but don't be confused. It would be like ripping. They'd
have to rip him. They're gonna have to rip him
from our bloody hands. You know. That's the kind of
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I think about it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And I also thought about you last night, knowing we
were going to have you on. When Jackson darts running
the ball and he decides that he's not going to
get out of bounds a little earlier, and his philosophy
or his mindset is, Hey, I'm going to continue to
do this. I'm a football player, it's not soccer. What
would you say to Jackson Dart Well, some of it.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
I think as a quarterback, you have to give your
teammates a sense that you're in for it all and
you know, and you got to, you got You're not
the toughest guy on the team because you know there's
always someone upper, but everyone needs to trust that you
are going to be good for it physically, mentally, emotionally,
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and that's what in the locker room is vital. So
I think he's trying to build that kind of you know,
and that's smart, but it's also it could be stupid,
like you have to be able to under you know,
be able to say that and be that, and then
yet protect yourself and be you know, you don't have
to ram into the linebackers for no reason. You don't
have to look for an extra yard when it doesn't matter,
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and you know, get out of balance, and everyone on
the team would say, Jackson, you appreciate your toughness, We
appreciate the way that you want to, you know, represent
but you got to stop and and and you got
to stay healthy, and as a pro player, you really
need to learn how to do that. I love when
Emmitt's s meant to just say no when the journey
is over and then get to the ground and be
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done and move on. And I think that that's something
he's going to have to learn. Well. He tries to
let everybody know I'm tough, and you know, there's a
there's a a fine line that he needs to find.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well, you can show your toughness by being out there
for seventeen regular season games. That that's really difficult to
do just to stay healthy for seventeen games. I don't
need to add to the degree of difficulty here.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
But he's you, he's trying to set he wants to
be around for a long time. And so in the
locker room, because you've got to understand Dan, everybody in
the locker room has to go and ram into somebody
and to get that inspiration and have the quarterback be
somebody that's willing to put himself at risk is somehow
inspiring in some ways. So it's like it's again, I
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get you and and and being healthy is the most
important thing. And I think that that's why I say
Jackson can be healthy for seventeen weeks, take care of himself,
be smart, and give off the you know, representation. He's
you know, a tough guy and to be counted on
and trusted. So he's just young. He's trying to figure
it out, and he's being a little you know, over zealous,
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and he needs to he needs to figure out how
to avoid stupidity, Like stupidity is just You're right, the
locker room will. They don't like stupid either, So it's
like you gotta be you gotta have it all.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Okay, But take me back.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
When you're beginning your career in San Francisco, you want
to prove that you're a tough guy. But part of
this was learning how to go through your progressions right,
so you didn't run as often as you did. So
I don't know how many designed runs you had with
San Francisco.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Not a lot, I mean, but that's what Bill watsh
I mean, He's I'd scramble around and run for a
first down or even a touchdown, and I go the sidelines.
He goes, what are you doing? But I'm like, why,
I'm scoring. I'm scoring. He goes, yeah, but noh know,
it's where to going, Like, you know, that's fine right
now for once, but what are we going to do
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like for the rest of the And so it's really
the same. It's the same thing that Jackson's got to
figure out is the game is sophisticated passing from the pocket.
That's quarterback. Now today's quarterback. You have to threat in
the line of scrimmage with your feet and you have
to go get those free yards. They're everywhere And I
wish I played today. I keep telling that you that
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over and overs like it would be awesome. But again,
you've got to develop the sophistication in the pocket and
yet move the football, yet win games yet you know,
So this transition into the pro game and becoming a
player that people can count on as a quarterback, it's
it's not for the you know, faint of heart, and
it's got all kinds of angles on it, and you're
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bringing up the really important ones.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Do you think you would have rushed for ten thousand
yards in today's NFL.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Over a career. No, no, no, because I think the
game again, it's not like it's not a numbers, it's
not a totality. You're not gonna you know, you're not
gonna run for one hundred and twenty yards a game.
It's like, that's not the game today. The game is
still a sophisticated passing from the pocket. But again those
spitting out and even Justin Herberts realized that think about
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the players that you know, Joe Burrow realizes that you
have to, especially in the biggest games, your legs are
going to go win the football game, especially because it's
a closers league today. It's not you know, you're in
the third quarter of the ten point lead, like things
are looking pretty good. It's like, no, you got people
come back from that in two minutes in today's game.
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So it's like the NBA, you have to be a
closer and in that way, that's with your legs. And
so it's not ten thousand yards, it's really vital important
difference making two thousand and five three thousand yards, you
know what I mean, It's not the numbers aren't going
to be like that.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Steve Young Hall of Famer and former ESPN NFL analyst.
What do you see when you look at Drake May.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Someone who gets it? I mean as a quarterback. That's
the best way I can say it. The game makes
sense to him. Twenty two people on a field running around, crazy, chaotic.
His brain obviously slows down instead of speeds up. The
more crazy it gets.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
It's ill teachable to slow the brain down.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Now that's a genetic It's like you think about it, Dan,
the normal human reaction is you know, tension, uh pressure.
You know, your heartbeat goes up, your brain diminishes, it
gets focused more, but you know you don't have the
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you don't have the presence. Think about when you're under
people are screaming at you. Like the pressure diminishes you.
It makes you, it focuses you, but it diminishes you.
You don't you're not as present. It's not like you're
in your backyard hanging around playing ball. But Patrick Mahomes,
for whatever reason, that's how it that's how his body
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reacts to it. And I think that to be really
good in the game, that has to be a genetic blessing.
So that as things getting worse and crazier your brain
somehow as ah, no, we're good and uh and there's
a piece to it and uh. And I think that
people always say, well, what makes a great quarterback? I
think that's probably the number number one or number one
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a number one being uh, condition that you have to have.
And I don't I don't think you learned it. I
think you can get better at it. I think things
can calm down over time. But I think it's just
a genetic reaction to kind of the the thing that's
happened in front of you. And that's just the pressure
that happened, you know, the physical reaction.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Well, Gretzky would talk about how the game slowed down. Yeah,
and you're talking about hockey, but like, how do you
how do you slow down hockey where you're taking And
he talked about taking snapshots like it'd be like a
quick picture here, quick picture here, quick picture here, And
it allowed him to kind of understand, you know, the situation.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I love that that makes sense to me. That's what
that's what it feels like. And I think that that's
why that's why the when people, you know, when you're
forced to reach hire at a young age, no matter
what it is. Even if Tom Brady's forty five, you
so have half your life left you just you miss
it because it's something that is intuitive to you. It's like,
you know how hard it is, you know how difficult
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it is to be good at it or even great
at it, and yet like it all makes sense, you know,
and like nothing else in your life can make as
much sense. Like I you know, the day you retire,
the next day you wake up, you're like, what are
you good at? Nothing? You know, but what do you
what are you great at this thing? That is amazing?
And so that's the Wayne Gretzky, what you just said
about him is that's that's the beauty of when it
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all kind of slows down and makes sense to you,
despite how insane it all is, is the coolest thing
in the world. That's the best.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
How good are your Niners?
Speaker 5 (34:48):
I mean, how well are they coached? I mean they
lose all their stars on defense, especially, they have people
out most of the season on offense. And you know,
also Mac Jones is a guy that everybody wants in
the league, just like Sam Donald was. Look at you know,
it's like, let's just tip our cap to the coaching
number one, and let's tip our cap to the culture
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of the place, locker room leadership. Obviously, they've got guys
in the room that pulled things together, and so how
good are they good enough to threaten and make people?
Really you can talk about a tough out and they're
going to be in the playoffs. I think you can
almost count on that. And so who wants to play
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the forty nine ers? I don't know nobody. So you
know that's that's for where they where they are with
the personnel and what's happened, it's pretty remarkable. I think
we've got to tip our cap to to really everyone
an organization right now to be nine and four.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Is Christian McCaffrey a Hall of Famer already?
Speaker 5 (35:50):
It feels like it. I mean, he's a He's a
guy that's Roger Craig. Roger Craig was the first guy
that I can remember that kind of took the role
of running back and then expanded it. And that's what
Christian now in the game today. How many times I
talk you about the world changes and how open the
field is and how you know the innovative minds are
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the ones that dominate today that you know those innovative
minds led by Kyle Sean McVay, you know Danny Reid
and you know Sean Payne with the first ones to
kind of really do it all. You need players to
go fulfill that innovation, that that new space, and that
is not an iback running downhill. It's a fact that
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can do kind of everything and line up everywhere and
every week come up with something a little new. The
coach has come up, you know, that has figured out
that you can go and you know perform like, yeah,
hand it to me, I'll do that. Oh yeah, you
want to You need somebody do that. I got you. Uh.
And that's why to me, the game changes the hall
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of things about people that change the game and that
when you write the book, you can't write the book
without their name and uh. And you can't write the
book about the game today and running back without Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
There was a moment in the Steelers Bills game where
Aaron Rodgers reacted and it looked like the receiver went
the wrong way and it was supposed to be you know,
maybe an in cut and he but Tony Romo pointed
it out. He's like, oh, the receiver went the because
Aaron's reaction. How often does that happen or did that
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happen to you where you might change the play or
there's a subtle nuance with it. You got to pick
it up a signal or a word and they end
up running the wrong route.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Well, first of all, communication out to receivers, especially in audible,
especially you know that was at a home game, so
that's a little different. But you know you're in a
dome and you I remember, yeah, I signal that Jerry
Wright signaling. He'd be like what what And You're like,
you know, you give a signal and he's like, I
don't understand, you know, And like he said, I mean
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I throw all even like what we're supposed to do,
and I'm like, I don't know, but I could just
tell where you're going. So I think the thing that
happens on the field very rarely does a guy turn
right instead of left, you know what I mean. Like,
but the subtlety of the route, especially and especially when
you're coming back the ball and protecting a quarterback from
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interceptions because he as you throw a football, you need
people that understand that you need to be the first
one to it. Despite the fact that the route might say,
the line might say a certain thing. It's all those
kind of small, you know, adjustments, and that's why I,
you know, the West Coast offense really started this process,
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and now I think Peyton Manning really extended it by
communication with the receivers that made it so that no
matter what happened, there was an adjustment that both knew
and subtleties. And now the game is very much about that.
And that's why Aaron Rodgers a Blurris for so long.
So I think Aaron expects himself to be perfect and
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he expects everyone around to be perfect, and so some
of that reaction is pretty natural.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Which quarterbacks under the most pressure to win a Super
Bowl this year?
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Well, in some ways, you know, Lamar Jackson because and
Josh Allen, I don't know, Wow, okay, already we have
a list. I'd say Josh Allen just because Lamar's like,
they're not they're not they're not full full force yet.
So but the Bills and where they've been and how
they've how they've been really reverence representing the NFL in
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excellence for a while. Josh is special, he does things
in the games, He's perfect for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 13 (39:48):
He's the prototype Patrick and so, yeah, I don't pressure
is a funny thing because I don't think he feels
that necessarily, just feels like that's the next mountain to climb,
and we got it and I'm climbing it.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
And that's why. How you It's not like I have
this weight on me and I can't wake up in
the morning and I feel like, you know, it's more
I can't wait to get to that mountain that I
haven't been able to climb, and I'm I'm I'm I'm
going to get there at this time. I'm gonna I'm
gonna be at the top. I'm gonna take the picture,
you know, the top of Everest with the flag in
the camera and in by four Minutes of Fame, it's happening.
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And so I think I would say Josh is the
one that probably feels that the most.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Matthew Stafford a dinosaur. Is this the last of the
pocket passer?
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Yeah? Yes, And what way I say that is there's
you have to threaten the line of scrimmage. There's too
many free yards. Matthew learned the game in a more
sophisticated era and so he takes advantage of that. He
learned it when no one was opened, the middle of
the field was patrolled, and you know the death zone,
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you know, fly weren't open all the time. People could
hit the quarterback however they wanted to do. He learned,
and so he's been taking advantage. He's he's abusing. That's it.
He's abusing the game today because uh, and that's why
Tom Brady wanted to play forever. That's why Peyton wanted
to play forever. That's why Drew Brees wanted to play forever.
You know, because they knew that they had a sophistication
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that they could take advantage of it. And so, yes,
Matthew is the last of those guys that are around.
And I was, say Aaron Rodgers, those two of the
last that have been around in a more sophisticated era.
And now you know, but Aaron I was still the landscript.
So it's not the same. But the dinosaur is I'm
somebody that's going to throw the ball, so you know,
spectacular from the pocket, but I just can't get those yards.
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It'll it'll eat you up over time. You can't. You might,
you might, you might be good. You might be grateful.
You can't win Super Bowls and and and dominate if
you're going to start in twenty twenty five as a
rookie and not somebody that will get those yards. It's
just it's it's too hard. You've made the derey of
difficulty like an Olympic dive, like it's it's you know,
it's what the fight? What's the hard dive? I can't
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remember how they do it? What? Uh?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
What's I look in your office and it doesn't seem.
Speaker 14 (42:15):
Well, that's Christmas time. Let me what will we work?
It's like Santa Santa's workshop. Just let it, let it happen.
Why you have to start getting personal and like trying
to dig at me? Man, I'm just trying to get
stuff done.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I'm just looking at you know, there's no football related
stuff there.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I didn't know you're what's right off my head?
Speaker 5 (42:33):
What is this record? Okay?
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Got a helmet? That's one thing.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Well, it's a museum. You want me to be like
an you're trying to dine in store me. I see
what you're saying. It's like we want a museum, so
we come in and a wax figure Like no, my
house is not. If you walk through my house, you
would not know I played. I'm not going to burden
my kids with that. Like you know, this is a
that's a helmet signed by all the Hall of Famers.
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Seems kind of special. So we'll just wing that one out.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
But yeah, but when when your daughters, when they have
boyfriends who come over, those dudes want to see what
you're what you got here.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Let's not kid anybody.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
I got the shotgun for that, I got I got
that up on the wall.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Okay, all right, okay, so you got your little shot there. Okay,
all right, you got a little helmet there. Well, that's
that's great. Congratulations on a wonderful career.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (43:32):
I could have I mean that's where I really.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Yeah, well you know my research staff they had your
plan for the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
What I could have been, you could have been.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
It could have been afore thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
As always, you're the best dancing buddy that is.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Steve Young
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's our one on this Tuesday. Still fighting whatever I
had in Las Vegas. It's not going away, just like Fritzy,
always going to be there, but we'll battle it together.
The voice trying to hold up here. Fritzy's got a
smile on his face, Dylan's in for Seaton, Marvin's here,
Paul yours truly in the backroom, guys. I told you
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it was going to happen, and it did. Standalone game
Drake May, he was in second place with DraftKings MVP
odds to Matthew Stafford, Drake May is now your favorite
to win the MVP. What I love about Drake May,
and there's a lot to like about him, is there's
not a high high and low low. You get really
consistent numbers with him. He has not had a passing
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game under two hundred yards. He hasn't had a passing
game over three hundred yards. I love that there's this
window and he's the passing leader right now in the NFL.
I like that you don't have to do too much,
but you got to do enough. And they're a really
good team. Now we can say the Giants aren't a
really good team, but you'd be correct with that at
(01:10):
two and eleven. So I'm looking at New England now,
best record in the AFC. They host Buffalo, they're at Baltimore,
They're at the Jets, and then they host Miami.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Let's say they.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Go two and two, maybe three and one, okay, getting
the home field advantage. They're not afraid of anybody coming
to town. If Kansas City's not in the mix, Baltimore
might not be in the mix. Are you worried about
Denver coming in? The Colts Jacksonville? So I would say
(01:42):
right now what New England has done. Certainly Mike Rabel
that he is the third coach to win ten and
more at ten game winning streak since Jim Caldwell and
nine Steve Mariucci in nineteen ninety seven. Staut of the
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Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yes, Paul, you know it's funny, weirdly funny to watch
on social media when the Patriots are lighting up last
night and their quarterback looks like an MVP candidate.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Like people who don't.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Like the Patriots are responding like it wasn't long enough
that the dip of the Patriots, the post Brady post
Belichick dip, it wasn't long enough. They had like what
two bad years, four and thirteen, four and thirteen. Now
they're back atop the AFC after twenty years of high
end play. They needed more of a break. It's like
the Bulls when Jordan left and they had Marcus Pfizer.
(02:47):
You need some down years.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I thought that they had a round a four or
five year run when Belichick was hanging on there and.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
They had cooled off.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah, they in two thousand and one they were ten
and seven, made the playoffs. Who they're eight to nine
miss the playoffs? Then four and thirteen, four and thirteen,
But OK, it's way too quick to be back up top.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You're right that they found their coach and they found
their quarterback. And if you have that in the NFL,
you are ahead of the game. You're ahead of eighty
five percent of the other teams. You got an MVP candidate,
and you got probably the coach of the year with
Mike Rabel. And you look at every time I see
Mike Brabel, I go, now, why didn't Tennessee want to
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keep him, tell me or did he want to stay?
And you know, ownership new ownership and they didn't want
But Mike Brabel, I've said this before, in't coach whatever sport.
You know, he can coach whatever team I got, doesn't matter. Yes, Dylan,
how how long do you think until we start hating Drake?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Mike Rabel?
Speaker 6 (03:49):
Like two and a half years of sustained success.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I don't I think you got to win first? Yeah,
I think you got to win time. We don't hate
teams that don't win titles.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
If they rip off a couple of Super Bowls in
the next fight.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Well yeah, then then you're allowed to hate them. Yeah,
and they would probably expect that. But there's nothing about
Drake May where you go, Man, I hate that guy
or his attitude or anything. I mean handing out turkeys
during the week for Thanksgiving. I mean, come on, it
seems like next door. And then go out and play
like he did against the Giants. By the way, Jackson
(04:26):
Dart please, you know, tough guys don't last, not at
that position.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
In the NFL.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Get out of bounds, and.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I'm gonna talk to Steve Young about this because he
learned to get out of bounds. But you know these
defensive players, you know they they want you to stay
in bounce. They want to hit you. And all of
a sudden, you got a chance to pop him, and
he's not going to get out of bound. You get
whatever you deserve. If he didn't get up, I'd say
that's your fault.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Here is Jackson Dark And it starts with the reporter's question.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Well, it sounds like a broken record, Jackson, just asking
you about the hits and taking them and protecting yourself
and things like that.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Is there anything you would have.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Done different on that one?
Speaker 7 (05:13):
No, look like I understand the question, but like this
is like this is football, Like I'm gonna get hit
if I'm in the pocket or outside the pocket. Like
it's I don't I feel like I've played this way
my whole entire life. This shouldn't be like any shock
or anybody. If you've followed along with my career and
(05:34):
I'm we're not playing like we're not playing soccer out here,
Like you're gonna get hit.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Things happen.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
It's part of the game, Okay, The violence is part
of the game. Your goal as a quarterback is to
eliminate the opportunities for violence on your body getting sacked.
Just go down live to see another play. Get out
of bounds. Here's Mike Rabel on the hit on Jackson Dart.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
It's a weekly reminder to the quarterback, our quarterback, you know,
I mean, we show him every week.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
I wouldn't get too cute over there by the sidelines.
It happens every week.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
And so Christian's playing, you know, through the whistle, and
as long as the players in bounds, he's going to
try to hit him legally.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And he did.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And once again, you can just get out of bounds.
You don't have to be a tough guy. Tough guy
is playing every single week. A tough guy plays seventeen games.
That's what your goal should be, not Hey did you
see me run over that defensive back. And I've seen
way too many quarterbacks think they're tough enough to do this,
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and they're not. They're not built that way. These guys
are ready to hit you. They know how to hit you,
and they want to hurt you. If you're a quarterback,
get out of bounds.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yes, Pauline.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
If you watch a hit by Christian Ellis, Jackson Dart
is not going out a bout. He's not doing that
like ease up. We're all agreeing that I'm turning towards
the sidelines. He's still going forward and Christian Ellis, you know,
you can't hit him in the pocket, you can't hit
him low, you can't really hit him high. This is
your opportunity to declete someone, and these guys are gonna
take it. And Aikman said it was a legal play.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Ben Aikman said that Jackson Dart has got to change
his style, and that's coming from a guy who had
multiple concussions and ended his career sooner than he probably
wanted to. But I like Jackson Dart's energy. I like
what he's given to the team. But I just want
you to harness that and use it when you need
to use that, yes, Martin.
Speaker 9 (07:39):
Yeah, Unfortunately, now when I watch Jackson Dart, I look
at him the way we do to it, where every
time he gets you start wincing when he starts running
like slide please, because now all we think of is
the concussions more so than your quarterback play.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, poly and totally being a tough guy when it's necessary.
If it's the fourth quarter of week seventeen, and you're
trying to get in the playoffs. Be a tough guy,
put your head down, get plays. You're two and ten
in a football game that doesn't really matter. Let's let's
make some nice throws and get out of here for
next year.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, it's surprising. And you know, Brian Dabele, maybe part
of the reason why I lost his job is they
were doing design runs for Jackson Dart and he had
a couple of concussions or games where there were concussion
symptoms there and in the blue tent, I gotta protect
my quarterback. I think the Giants have found their quarterback.
(08:33):
I think he's really good, but he hasn't learned anything.
And that's what scares me. Just like he said, Hey,
anybody who knows how I play, now, his dad, you know,
played that way. Dad was a tough guy, defensive player.
Your quarterback. The ability to be available. That's the key
(08:54):
for these quarterbacks. Look at the number of injuries at
that position, and they're protecting the quarterback the best thing
that will give you an idea of just how violent
the game is. But watching Jackson Dart and I thought, oh,
is he gonna try to do a Mahomes where he
dances down the sideline, the defensive player can't hit him,
and then all of a sudden he got popped, and
I go, Okay, if that doesn't get his attention, then
(09:17):
nothing's gonna get his attention. And as we heard from
him after the game, it's not sinking in.
Speaker 10 (09:23):
Yes, Todd, and you think you're being selfless, well, you're
actually being selfish because there's so much invested in you
and they want this guy to be their quarterback for
the future. To try to get that extra yard or too,
you gotta kind of think ahead a little bit that
this organization has got so much invested in you. It's
not about getting an extra yard or two. It's not
the end of the fourth quarter of a playoff game
where you've got to pick up that first down of
the game's overraving.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I don't know if his teammates are gonna go, oh,
did you see him get out of bounds? Come on,
nobody's gonna say that, just walk out of bounds if
you get one extra yard. I don't know if your
team with two wins goes yes, now, yes, now we're back.
Like you're you're just getting experience. That's all you're doing.
(10:07):
It's getting information here to take into next year. Maybe
you get a new head coach, but you do have
some positives here. Scataboo Malik neighbors a couple of defensive players. Okay,
you might be able to be competitive, but how about
you get ready for next season? Not I'm gonna show
(10:28):
these guys. Wow, you really showed the Patriots get out
of bounds.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, Paul, I was watching the Manning cast for a
little bit and they were discussing that the Dart hit
and they showed a clip. You know, they always bag
on Peyton Manning, and they showed Manning avoiding a sack
where he just kind of laid down. But I don't think.
I don't know who said it on his paint or Eli.
Peyton's first ten years in the league, he didn't mess
a start, and he said, he goes. My job is
to not get hit. We paid about millions of dollars
(10:53):
to offensivelignment to keep me from getting hit.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I'm not going to volunteer to get hit.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But every week we find this, there'll be a quarterback
who wants to take on somebody, and boy are they waiting. Yes, Dylan, Well,
there's also like elusivity guys, and.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Like Jackson, like Lamar is elusive.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
He runs a lot, but he doesn't take these like
huge hits that like Jackson, Dart, Josh Allen, some of
those guys.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
But even Lamar Jackson's not running anywhere near what he
used to now, Like it's far more strategic there.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Josh Allen is a unicorn, okay, because he's as big
as the guys who are trying to hit him, and
he's he's delivering a blow. But that's just different. You know,
he's the second coming of Cam Newton when it comes
to running the football. But these other quarterbacks, you think
it's great for morale and you want to show your
(11:47):
teammates you're tough. You'll show them that you're tough by
playing every single game. That's really hard to do. Not
many quarterbacks go wire to wire each season, play all
seventeen games and then maybe you play in the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (12:02):
Yes, Mark, Yeah, And it's weird to say this, but
he's he wants to be known as a football player.
We want you to be known as a quarterback, Like,
don't use those shoulder pads. And it's hard because I'm
sure in the culture he grew up in being raised
by a football guy. He thinks of himself as a
football player. No, no, the rest of you guys are quarterbacks.
I'm here to play football and that's not with the NFL.
(12:22):
No No, we want you to use those the arms,
not the shoulder pads, to throw the ball, not to
try to run people over.
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Speaker 3 (13:10):
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Speaker 2 (13:11):
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Speaker 3 (13:27):
If you were on Old Miss right.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Now and you took a team vote of keeping Lane
Kiffin on as your coach in the playoffs, you would
vote how.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
I would vote to keep him on.
Speaker 12 (13:40):
I think as a young player, when I was in college,
the opportunity to win a national championship, I would want
everything to stay as much of the same as it
could be, And I think I follows those guys. I
would also be planning for what's next. Do I want
to stay at Old Miss? Do I want to lead
but year?
Speaker 6 (14:00):
And then now?
Speaker 12 (14:00):
I would say, let's go win a national championship and
then decide what happens next.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, but he's basically saying he can't win a national
title at Old Miss. That's why he's going dow NSU.
If the money is around the same and LSU has
better resources, that he can't win a national title with you,
even though you're gonna be in the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 12 (14:22):
But I think the hard thing is, but then who
coaches you? Like those guys that are on staff. If
you stay, there's no promise that the next coach that
comes in is going to be able to coach. I
remember my senior year, Cincinnati makes it to a BCS
Bowl game. They're gonna play against the Florida Gators. Brian
Kelly leaves and goes in Norre Dame. It's a whole
(14:43):
mess the whole time leading up to the game. And
those guys on Cincinnati I trained with him. They felt
like if he stayed, they were to beat Florida. I disagree,
but they had a better chance knowing their staff would
still be intact.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
But how many players nowadays go to a college or
they go to play for a coach.
Speaker 12 (15:03):
You go to play for a coach, there's no doubt
about it. I just think you get sold on the college.
But when you get there right away, you see life's
about football and everything else comes after that. And that
goes for all major sports. So you better like that
coach and he better like you if you're going to
stay there and play.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Okay, So former defenship back and a well decorated defensive back,
Jackson Dart is running down the sidelines and you're taught
to do what if you see him maybe kind of
sort of still in bounce.
Speaker 12 (15:38):
Yeah, I mean, for one, what it hit last night.
But the thing is, I was just talking about this earlier.
You study film, so when you look at the film
as a dB, as a linebacker, I would come into
the game saying, if Jackson darts on the sideline, we
need to be going. We need to be ready to
go over there and take Jackson dart out because the
film has showed us he he's probably not stepping out
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of bounds. And me being in New England for thirteen years,
I'm pretty sure they went over that and said, when
this guy gets on the sideline, don't break stride, don't
slow down because he's probably not stepping out of bounds.
And that's exactly what the play was last night.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But then after the game he said, this is how
I play. This is I'm going to continue to play
this way. What advice would you give him? Having witnessed
that hit in person and having played you know, defensive
back for thirteen years.
Speaker 12 (16:30):
I would tell him if he's really going to do that,
I would tell him he's a damn fool. Like it's
just it's not going to last in the NFL. I
think a part of that was I'm not going to
back down. I'm going to say all of this.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
I do believe he's.
Speaker 12 (16:44):
Going to change some things up because I think even
as a teammate, if I'm on the offensive line, my
job is to protect you.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
I need you to help me protect you.
Speaker 12 (16:53):
I don't want to get fined and get fifteen yard
penalties because we're attacking guys for hitting you when you
should just step out. So I do think he'll make
the adjustment he needs.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
To be out there. I think the speed surprises him.
Speaker 12 (17:05):
Sometimes he thinks he has a step and then the
next thing he knows he's getting hit because these guys
are a lot faster.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
America seems in love with Drake May.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
How does that change? Where we've seen this with New
England quarterbacks before, where hey, what a great story and
then all of a sudden they turn on you. How
long does that last? Where Drake May and the Patriots
playing this well that it's still a good story and
everybody likes Drake May.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
I think it last.
Speaker 12 (17:36):
I think that the unique thing about Drake May I
got to be up there doing the preseason games his
rookie year, was this kid is the youngest of a
bunch of brothers who were really good in sports. His
brother Luke May won a national championship when North Carolina.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
As a basketball player, and he talked about it, He's like.
Speaker 12 (17:54):
They used to beat me up, they used to punish me,
they used to like everything was hard for him. And
I think you can see his teammates love that about him.
He's so poised, nothing bothers him. And I think the
unique thing about Drake May is the same thing that
Mac Jones had his rookie year, is the offensive coordinator
Josh McDaniel's. And I think Josh will be there longer
(18:16):
than just his rookie year like Mac Jones had to
go through.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
I think this is.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
A great relationship and I think he has a chance
to be there for a while and developed Drake May.
And I've talked to Josh. He's in love with Drake May.
Just as much as the rest of.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Us health threatening are the Patriots.
Speaker 12 (18:34):
I think in a AFC this year where it's wide open,
the Patriots are just as good as anybody. They have
right now the best chance to me because being there
last night, that atmosphere is different, different than even when
I was there. When I was there, it was we're
expected to be here. We'll show up in the ANFC
(18:56):
Championship and cheer. If the game's close, we'll go crazy
and help you out. Being in an atmosphere after two
bad seasons, you could see the fans were like, man,
we thought we were gonna have to wait maybe fifteen
years to be good again.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
And their energy, the way they're showing up to.
Speaker 12 (19:13):
The stadium early, staying the whole game, I think they
feel like, hey, we got to give this team this
boost because we had no idea we'd be this good
right now.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Talking to Devin mccordy, he works for Football Night in America,
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All Pro Football Night in America. They will give you
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What advice would you give Drake May about playoff football
as supposed to regular season football.
Speaker 12 (19:44):
I would tell him exactly what I heard for thirteen years.
Belichick would come in and he would say, let me
just dispel all these stupid myths out there, like the
whole experience matters. Experience doesn't matter at all. Who I
was playing the best football is what matters. And he
would always tell us, do more. Put everything else in
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the draw, watch the extra film, do all those little things,
because if you can play your best football, no matter
if you're a rookie, first year, twelve year vet, no
matter if you've played in the playoffs before, if you've
never played in the playoffs, he would tell you, if
you go and play good ball, that's what determines your
playoff journey, Not that you've played in twenty games or
(20:29):
ten games, no one cares about.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
That would be the first thing I told him.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Ever late for a meeting with the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Nah, man, they cut people and sent people home for
being late. I wanted my money.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Wait, have you did you witness somebody getting cut?
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Yeah, we had a guy who.
Speaker 12 (20:53):
Came late Saturday my second year, second or third year,
and they didn't cut him that Saturday, but Tuesday after
the Sunday and he was inactive and the next.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Tuesday he was gone.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
And I saw guys get sent home for being late
all the time.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Who told us the story about they faked being in
a car accident because they were going to be late
with the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
And do you remember that Pollie we're checking? Was that
Scott Zolac or something. I don't I forget who we had.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
On This sounds like a Zolac story.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, because you had to have a good story because
if you didn't, you were going to be in trouble,
and especially if you were a secondary guy on that team.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Dan, he told us the story. It was a former
Patriots old lineman, Rich Omburger. He said he intentionally got
into an accident because he knew he was late and
he wanted a real excuse.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
We had a guy Kyle Aaronton Carr.
Speaker 12 (21:55):
It was snowed, his car couldn't get out of the
parking lot. He hitch hiped to work just in fear
of being late, went out on the road and stood
there and asked somebody, Hey, I played for the Patriots.
You mind dropping me off the street out of Patriot Place.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So the AFC is open right now, it feels like
and if the Patriots get the home field advantage, I
don't think they're and the Chiefs don't make the playoffs,
or the Ravens don't make the playoffs, or even if
they do, doesn't feel like anybody scares them, including the
Buffalo Bills, who they have coming up this next game.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (22:34):
I think they already went to Buffalo and won, and
I think right now they've gotten this rhythm. And I
think even going off last week they go play Cincinnati
and it just felt like this past week Rabel was
just tearing into them. And I don't know that for sure,
but the way they came out Monday night felt like
it was a response to them feeling like they didn't
(22:58):
play their best ball the week before in Cincinnati. And
I think I remember being on those teams that made
that run. It was all about after Thanksgiving, how did
we just play our best football. We had seasons where
we didn't give up a second half touchdown in games,
you know, from the second week in December all the
way through winning a super Bowl, like those things that
(23:20):
you can do and be special in that makes a difference,
and this team just feels like they're moving in that direction.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
More concerned about the Chiefs are the Eagles.
Speaker 12 (23:32):
I'm more concerned about the Eagles. I think for the Chiefs,
the truth of the matter is everyone else around them
just got better. I think this Chiefs team is actually
better than the team last year that made it.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
To the Super Bowl. But the Broncos are better. The
Chargers are better the.
Speaker 12 (23:49):
Indianapolis Colt like you look at all these other teams
that got better.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
The Eagles. To me, they're just underachieving. And I kind
of was like, Hey, don't get too concerned.
Speaker 12 (24:02):
Until last week when I watched Chicago beat Philly. At
what Philly does the best, their defensive line, their front,
they pushed them around. That was alarming for me, and
I think they need to fix that right away.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Always good to talk to you, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Thank you Devin, anytime man, Good talking to you.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Devin mccordy.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
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Speaker 2 (24:33):
I think he's the best NFL analyst in America. He's
a Hall of Famer. He's Steve Young, three times Super
Bowl champ. Back on the program, I thought about you
with BYU, with your head coach and perhaps maybe mutual
interest with Penn State. So let me ask you the
question that old miss LSU have had to deal with.
(24:54):
How would you feel if you're a head coach? What
happened to take a job while the season still going on.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Well, first of all, something's really wrong that allows for
this kind of madness, you know, so we got to
fix that. I don't know, you know, I don't know
how to fix it. They got to fix that. It's insane.
It would be super painful. I mean, there's a there's
a symbiotic kind of beautiful thing going on between, you know,
(25:24):
everything by U and Klane and what he's doing, and
there's like and I think he has the love for
it too, So the pain would be a pretty extreme.
I suspect that everything's being done on the other side
to try to make sure that everything gets you know,
that he stays. But I guess that in some ways, Dan,
it's cool that, you know, b Yu. Then there's the
(25:44):
Big twelve and obviously super competitive and looks like they
can do something really you know, consistently pretty well that
the Penn State wants our coach. I mean, that's a
that's a cool thing too in some ways. So I mean,
but don't be confused. It would be like ripping. They'd
have to rip him. They're gonna have to rip him
from our bloody hands. You know. That's the kind of
(26:06):
I think about it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And I also thought about you last night, knowing we
were going to have you on. When Jackson darts running
the ball and he decides that he's not going to
get out of bounds a little earlier, and his philosophy
or his mindset is, Hey, I'm going to continue to
do this. I'm a football player, it's not soccer. What
would you say to Jackson Dart Well, some of it.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
I think as a quarterback, you have to give your
teammates a sense that you're in for it all and
you know, and you got to, you got You're not
the toughest guy on the team because you know there's
always someone upper, but everyone needs to trust that you
are going to be good for it physically, mentally, emotionally,
(26:50):
and that's what in the locker room is vital. So
I think he's trying to build that kind of you know,
and that's smart, but it's also it could be stupid,
like you have to be able to under you know,
be able to say that and be that, and then
yet protect yourself and be you know, you don't have
to ram into the linebackers for no reason. You don't
have to look for an extra yard when it doesn't matter,
(27:14):
and you know, get out of balance, and everyone on
the team would say, Jackson, you appreciate your toughness, We
appreciate the way that you want to, you know, represent
but you got to stop and and and you got
to stay healthy, and as a pro player, you really
need to learn how to do that. I love when
Emmitt's s meant to just say no when the journey
is over and then get to the ground and be
(27:34):
done and move on. And I think that that's something
he's going to have to learn. Well. He tries to
let everybody know I'm tough, and you know, there's a
there's a a fine line that he needs to find.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well, you can show your toughness by being out there
for seventeen regular season games. That that's really difficult to
do just to stay healthy for seventeen games. I don't
need to add to the degree of difficulty here.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
But he's you, he's trying to set he wants to
be around for a long time. And so in the
locker room, because you've got to understand Dan, everybody in
the locker room has to go and ram into somebody
and to get that inspiration and have the quarterback be
somebody that's willing to put himself at risk is somehow
inspiring in some ways. So it's like it's again, I
(28:22):
get you and and and being healthy is the most
important thing. And I think that that's why I say
Jackson can be healthy for seventeen weeks, take care of himself,
be smart, and give off the you know, representation. He's
you know, a tough guy and to be counted on
and trusted. So he's just young. He's trying to figure
it out, and he's being a little you know, over zealous,
(28:45):
and he needs to he needs to figure out how
to avoid stupidity, Like stupidity is just You're right, the
locker room will. They don't like stupid either, So it's
like you gotta be you gotta have it all.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Okay, But take me back.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
When you're beginning your career in San Francisco, you want
to prove that you're a tough guy. But part of
this was learning how to go through your progressions right,
so you didn't run as often as you did. So
I don't know how many designed runs you had with
San Francisco.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Not a lot, I mean, but that's what Bill watsh
I mean, He's I'd scramble around and run for a
first down or even a touchdown, and I go the sidelines.
He goes, what are you doing? But I'm like, why,
I'm scoring. I'm scoring. He goes, yeah, but noh know,
it's where to going, Like, you know, that's fine right
now for once, but what are we going to do
(29:42):
like for the rest of the And so it's really
the same. It's the same thing that Jackson's got to
figure out is the game is sophisticated passing from the pocket.
That's quarterback. Now today's quarterback. You have to threat in
the line of scrimmage with your feet and you have
to go get those free yards. They're everywhere And I
wish I played today. I keep telling that you that
(30:02):
over and overs like it would be awesome. But again,
you've got to develop the sophistication in the pocket and
yet move the football, yet win games yet you know,
So this transition into the pro game and becoming a
player that people can count on as a quarterback, it's
it's not for the you know, faint of heart, and
it's got all kinds of angles on it, and you're
(30:24):
bringing up the really important ones.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Do you think you would have rushed for ten thousand
yards in today's NFL.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Over a career. No, no, no, because I think the
game again, it's not like it's not a numbers, it's
not a totality. You're not gonna you know, you're not
gonna run for one hundred and twenty yards a game.
It's like, that's not the game today. The game is
still a sophisticated passing from the pocket. But again those
spitting out and even Justin Herberts realized that think about
(30:56):
the players that you know, Joe Burrow realizes that you
have to, especially in the biggest games, your legs are
going to go win the football game, especially because it's
a closers league today. It's not you know, you're in
the third quarter of the ten point lead, like things
are looking pretty good. It's like, no, you got people
come back from that in two minutes in today's game.
(31:17):
So it's like the NBA, you have to be a
closer and in that way, that's with your legs. And
so it's not ten thousand yards, it's really vital important
difference making two thousand and five three thousand yards, you
know what I mean, It's not the numbers aren't going
to be like that.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Steve Young Hall of Famer and former ESPN NFL analyst.
What do you see when you look at Drake May.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Someone who gets it? I mean as a quarterback. That's
the best way I can say it. The game makes
sense to him. Twenty two people on a field running around, crazy, chaotic.
His brain obviously slows down instead of speeds up. The
more crazy it gets.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
It's ill teachable to slow the brain down.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Now that's a genetic It's like you think about it, Dan,
the normal human reaction is you know, tension, uh pressure.
You know, your heartbeat goes up, your brain diminishes, it
gets focused more, but you know you don't have the
(32:27):
you don't have the presence. Think about when you're under
people are screaming at you. Like the pressure diminishes you.
It makes you, it focuses you, but it diminishes you.
You don't you're not as present. It's not like you're
in your backyard hanging around playing ball. But Patrick Mahomes,
for whatever reason, that's how it that's how his body
(32:48):
reacts to it. And I think that to be really
good in the game, that has to be a genetic blessing.
So that as things getting worse and crazier your brain
somehow as ah, no, we're good and uh and there's
a piece to it and uh. And I think that
people always say, well, what makes a great quarterback? I
think that's probably the number number one or number one
(33:11):
a number one being uh, condition that you have to have.
And I don't I don't think you learned it. I
think you can get better at it. I think things
can calm down over time. But I think it's just
a genetic reaction to kind of the the thing that's
happened in front of you. And that's just the pressure
that happened, you know, the physical reaction.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Well, Gretzky would talk about how the game slowed down. Yeah,
and you're talking about hockey, but like, how do you
how do you slow down hockey where you're taking And
he talked about taking snapshots like it'd be like a
quick picture here, quick picture here, quick picture here, And
it allowed him to kind of understand, you know, the situation.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I love that that makes sense to me. That's what
that's what it feels like. And I think that that's
why that's why the when people, you know, when you're
forced to reach hire at a young age, no matter
what it is. Even if Tom Brady's forty five, you
so have half your life left you just you miss
it because it's something that is intuitive to you. It's like,
you know how hard it is, you know how difficult
(34:13):
it is to be good at it or even great
at it, and yet like it all makes sense, you know,
and like nothing else in your life can make as
much sense. Like I you know, the day you retire,
the next day you wake up, you're like, what are
you good at? Nothing? You know, but what do you
what are you great at this thing? That is amazing?
And so that's the Wayne Gretzky, what you just said
about him is that's that's the beauty of when it
(34:37):
all kind of slows down and makes sense to you,
despite how insane it all is, is the coolest thing
in the world. That's the best.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
How good are your Niners?
Speaker 5 (34:48):
I mean, how well are they coached? I mean they
lose all their stars on defense, especially, they have people
out most of the season on offense. And you know,
also Mac Jones is a guy that everybody wants in
the league, just like Sam Donald was. Look at you know,
it's like, let's just tip our cap to the coaching
number one, and let's tip our cap to the culture
(35:10):
of the place, locker room leadership. Obviously, they've got guys
in the room that pulled things together, and so how
good are they good enough to threaten and make people?
Really you can talk about a tough out and they're
going to be in the playoffs. I think you can
almost count on that. And so who wants to play
(35:31):
the forty nine ers? I don't know nobody. So you
know that's that's for where they where they are with
the personnel and what's happened, it's pretty remarkable. I think
we've got to tip our cap to to really everyone
an organization right now to be nine and four.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Is Christian McCaffrey a Hall of Famer already?
Speaker 5 (35:50):
It feels like it. I mean, he's a He's a
guy that's Roger Craig. Roger Craig was the first guy
that I can remember that kind of took the role
of running back and then expanded it. And that's what
Christian now in the game today. How many times I
talk you about the world changes and how open the
field is and how you know the innovative minds are
(36:11):
the ones that dominate today that you know those innovative
minds led by Kyle Sean McVay, you know Danny Reid
and you know Sean Payne with the first ones to
kind of really do it all. You need players to
go fulfill that innovation, that that new space, and that
is not an iback running downhill. It's a fact that
(36:32):
can do kind of everything and line up everywhere and
every week come up with something a little new. The
coach has come up, you know, that has figured out
that you can go and you know perform like, yeah,
hand it to me, I'll do that. Oh yeah, you
want to You need somebody do that. I got you. Uh.
And that's why to me, the game changes the hall
(36:54):
of things about people that change the game and that
when you write the book, you can't write the book
without their name and uh. And you can't write the
book about the game today and running back without Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
There was a moment in the Steelers Bills game where
Aaron Rodgers reacted and it looked like the receiver went
the wrong way and it was supposed to be you know,
maybe an in cut and he but Tony Romo pointed
it out. He's like, oh, the receiver went the because
Aaron's reaction. How often does that happen or did that
(37:26):
happen to you where you might change the play or
there's a subtle nuance with it. You got to pick
it up a signal or a word and they end
up running the wrong route.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Well, first of all, communication out to receivers, especially in audible,
especially you know that was at a home game, so
that's a little different. But you know you're in a
dome and you I remember, yeah, I signal that Jerry
Wright signaling. He'd be like what what And You're like,
you know, you give a signal and he's like, I
don't understand, you know, And like he said, I mean
(37:59):
I throw all even like what we're supposed to do,
and I'm like, I don't know, but I could just
tell where you're going. So I think the thing that
happens on the field very rarely does a guy turn
right instead of left, you know what I mean. Like,
but the subtlety of the route, especially and especially when
you're coming back the ball and protecting a quarterback from
(38:22):
interceptions because he as you throw a football, you need
people that understand that you need to be the first
one to it. Despite the fact that the route might say,
the line might say a certain thing. It's all those
kind of small, you know, adjustments, and that's why I,
you know, the West Coast offense really started this process,
(38:42):
and now I think Peyton Manning really extended it by
communication with the receivers that made it so that no
matter what happened, there was an adjustment that both knew
and subtleties. And now the game is very much about that.
And that's why Aaron Rodgers a Blurris for so long.
So I think Aaron expects himself to be perfect and
(39:04):
he expects everyone around to be perfect, and so some
of that reaction is pretty natural.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Which quarterbacks under the most pressure to win a Super
Bowl this year?
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Well, in some ways, you know, Lamar Jackson because and
Josh Allen, I don't know, Wow, okay, already we have
a list. I'd say Josh Allen just because Lamar's like,
they're not they're not they're not full full force yet.
So but the Bills and where they've been and how
they've how they've been really reverence representing the NFL in
(39:40):
excellence for a while. Josh is special, he does things
in the games, He's perfect for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 13 (39:48):
He's the prototype Patrick and so, yeah, I don't pressure
is a funny thing because I don't think he feels
that necessarily, just feels like that's the next mountain to climb,
and we got it and I'm climbing it.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
And that's why. How you It's not like I have
this weight on me and I can't wake up in
the morning and I feel like, you know, it's more
I can't wait to get to that mountain that I
haven't been able to climb, and I'm I'm I'm I'm
going to get there at this time. I'm gonna I'm
gonna be at the top. I'm gonna take the picture,
you know, the top of Everest with the flag in
the camera and in by four Minutes of Fame, it's happening.
(40:25):
And so I think I would say Josh is the
one that probably feels that the most.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Matthew Stafford a dinosaur. Is this the last of the
pocket passer?
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Yeah? Yes, And what way I say that is there's
you have to threaten the line of scrimmage. There's too
many free yards. Matthew learned the game in a more
sophisticated era and so he takes advantage of that. He
learned it when no one was opened, the middle of
the field was patrolled, and you know the death zone,
(40:59):
you know, fly weren't open all the time. People could
hit the quarterback however they wanted to do. He learned,
and so he's been taking advantage. He's he's abusing. That's it.
He's abusing the game today because uh, and that's why
Tom Brady wanted to play forever. That's why Peyton wanted
to play forever. That's why Drew Brees wanted to play forever.
You know, because they knew that they had a sophistication
(41:20):
that they could take advantage of it. And so, yes,
Matthew is the last of those guys that are around.
And I was, say Aaron Rodgers, those two of the
last that have been around in a more sophisticated era.
And now you know, but Aaron I was still the landscript.
So it's not the same. But the dinosaur is I'm
somebody that's going to throw the ball, so you know,
spectacular from the pocket, but I just can't get those yards.
(41:43):
It'll it'll eat you up over time. You can't. You might,
you might, you might be good. You might be grateful.
You can't win Super Bowls and and and dominate if
you're going to start in twenty twenty five as a
rookie and not somebody that will get those yards. It's
just it's it's too hard. You've made the derey of
difficulty like an Olympic dive, like it's it's you know,
it's what the fight? What's the hard dive? I can't
(42:05):
remember how they do it? What? Uh?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
What's I look in your office and it doesn't seem.
Speaker 14 (42:15):
Well, that's Christmas time. Let me what will we work?
It's like Santa Santa's workshop. Just let it, let it happen.
Why you have to start getting personal and like trying
to dig at me? Man, I'm just trying to get
stuff done.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I'm just looking at you know, there's no football related
stuff there.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I didn't know you're what's right off my head?
Speaker 5 (42:33):
What is this record? Okay?
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Got a helmet? That's one thing.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Well, it's a museum. You want me to be like
an you're trying to dine in store me. I see
what you're saying. It's like we want a museum, so
we come in and a wax figure Like no, my
house is not. If you walk through my house, you
would not know I played. I'm not going to burden
my kids with that. Like you know, this is a
that's a helmet signed by all the Hall of Famers.
(42:59):
Seems kind of special. So we'll just wing that one out.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
But yeah, but when when your daughters, when they have
boyfriends who come over, those dudes want to see what
you're what you got here.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Let's not kid anybody.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
I got the shotgun for that, I got I got
that up on the wall.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Okay, all right, okay, so you got your little shot there. Okay,
all right, you got a little helmet there. Well, that's
that's great. Congratulations on a wonderful career.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (43:32):
I could have I mean that's where I really.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Yeah, well you know my research staff they had your
plan for the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
What I could have been, you could have been.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
It could have been afore thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
As always, you're the best dancing buddy that is.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
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