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question for the final hour of the program, and then
we'll bring in Windy seedon Yeah, we got a couple
of them up there right now. If you were the.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Milwaukee Bucks, you would seventy four percent of the audience
have us trading him in the best fit for Giannis
is right now in New York, followed by san Antonio
dominating that.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Poolecost Okay, we bring in Brian Winhorns to the mothership.
ESPN senior NBA writer, How did we get to this point? Ryan?
With Jannis in the Bucks?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Not one hundred percent sure where we are because one
of the things that I've been talking to league executive
types about in the last twenty four hours is do
we think that this time the Honis will actually go
all the way and formally say it's time to trade me,
because he's rattled the saber before. And you know, one
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of the more fascinating stories that came out of this
whole summer, and it didn't come out in the summer.
It came out in October and Shamstererania, my colleague at ESPN,
reported it. But in August, Janice talked to the Bucks
and different people can use different verbs here, and I'm
not trying to like step on anybody, but he showed
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an interest in wanting to be on the New York Knicks,
and to the point where the Knicks and the Bucks
had trade talks. And I know what Doc River said yesterday,
said Giannis didn't ask to be traded. Okay, he may
not have said those words. I promise you the Bucks
it wasn't their idea, okay. And I know that it
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caught the Knicks by surprise, Dan. And you know how
I know because like two weeks before, they signed Mikhale
Bridges to a contract extension, a really good contract extension,
nice one. And it's not that they wouldn't have signed
him or that they absolutely were going to trade him
in that deal, but once you signed him to that,
you can't trade him for six months. So if you
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were thought that you were about to potentially enter a
very important negotiation, you wouldn't take one of those guys
off the table. So I think it caught the Knicks
off guard too. And so what I think happened was
it was Yiannis's idea. Now you can bring people on
here and have them testify or whatever. It's fine. The
talks took place, okay. And the important thing is Jannis
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watched what the Bucks did over the summer, which was
do this crazy move. It was a two hundred million
dollar move. They cut Dame, making one hundred million dollars
in dead money, and then they signed Miles Turner for
one hundred million. So they took one hundred million dollar problem,
which was a player in his thirties recovered from Achilles,
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and they made it a two hundred dollars investment for
a Miles Turner, who is a quality player just helped
the team to get to the finals. Excellent, a high
quality role player, but not a star player. He saw
those moves and then he said, I have some interest
in becoming a Nick. Okay, So that happened, and it
didn't come out until October. And at that point, Yannis
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they had signed his two brothers, you know, and Yiannis
was playing for the Bucks and everything. But like that
was a real indication of what y where Yannis's head
was at. Here's the other thing. Yannis's family moved to Greece.
If you know anything about Yannis, the family is extraordinarily
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important to him. It's one of the reasons why the
Bucks have signed his two brothers, because they know how
important it is to have his family with him. That
he sent his fair He might have had ten reasons
to send his family to Greece. But again, these are
actions that you're looking at going you know, so what
the league is wondering is knowing what happened in the summer,
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knowing about the other stuff, knowing that the team is
not doing well, although they had their best win of
the year last night they beat the Pistons without Yanis.
Will Janis actually go forward and say, Okay, I wanted
to because I don't think the Bucks are going to
get there Dan, because the Bucks are so mortgaged and
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so deeply invested in keeping him, and I actually don't
blame them. And so that's really what the question is
is is will Yannis take the next step besides the
saber rattling that he's done before?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Why the Knicks?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Good question?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
You know?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
He he really you know, in all of the on
all of the discussions from Jannis and from John Horst,
their general manager and doc, no one denied those talks
took place. The Knicks certainly didn't deny it, and I thought,
I know that they happened. And you know, I will
say that if you were in a vacuum choosing where
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to go, you would want to go to the Eastern Conference.
You know, I think you know, you know you we
want to stay East. And so if you looked at
the Eastern Conference and you said, well, where would I
want to be as a player. Where do I think
I can you know, make a big impact? Where could
we win right away?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Like New York.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Rises to the top. You can make some cases for
some other teams, you know, Miami for example, you know,
maybe Atlanta, maybe Boston all that that type of tray
would be a lot more complicated. But like you know,
if you go through that process, I could see how
you know, Toronto would be as it would be an
interesting team. Now that's actually kind of an interesting team
because you know, you know, national players seem to like Toronto.
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But I think, you know, in August, I think New
York made some sense, and it may not have made
some sense from what the Knicks were in position to
trade at the time. And I certainly don't think the
Bucks were motivated to do it, like they probably wanted
everything the Knicks could possibly offer before they would even
get mildly interested. But that's the other question is if
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Jannis does so that There's really three questions that have
been involved on my phone for the last twenty four hours. One,
will Jannis actually go to the point where he says
I want to be traded because he hasn't gotten to
that point yet or before two. If he does get traded,
will the list be longer than the Knicks than it
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was just a one team thing over the summer? And Three,
if Jannis has a let's let's say there's three teams,
let's say there's six teams, whatever, do the Bucks have
to do business with just his list? Because he does
have one year left on his contract plus a player option,
so next year you'd be faced with having Giannis in
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a walk year. So typically in that situation, you would
if you were trading for a guy, you'd want to
know he is staying, especially if you're given a lot
of stuff for him. But it's funny, Dan, As I've
talked to people in the league. People don't necessarily think
that would necessarily be true with Yannis. So I'm not sure.
But those are the three questions and the topics that
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are going around the league right now.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I'm guessing Brunson would be off limits with the Knicks.
That'd be the only guy that'd be off limits.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
I would advise them, I haven't. I don't have insight
on I don't have insight on that, but I would
do so. The challenge with the Knicks is they really
don't have meaningful draft assets to give. Some of these
other teams we could mention have their own draft picks,
and other teams draft picks that they can offer. The
Knicks don't have draft picks, so you would have to
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make it a player based trade. And here's the thing
about the Bucks that's important to understand the Bucks, and
this is this sort of backs up why they've double
tripled Paul drippled down. They don't control I think their
next three or four drafts. They've either traded the pick
away or they've traded the swap away. Certainly this year
and next year, I know for sure, I think even
twenty eight two. And so when you're in that position,
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you really can't enter into a trade thinking, well, we're
going to rebuild because you don't control your pick. And
there's a few teams in the NBA right now who
are in bad shape but don't control their pick, and
they're in hell and so Milwaukee would probably have if
they you know, Milwaukee's probably doesn't want this happen at all,
but if they get to the point they have to
trade them, they're probably going to look to make a
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player based trade. Or the draft asks that that they're
going to get are going to be third party teams.
In other words, if you do a team with if
you do a deal with the team that you're trading
y honest to you, and you're getting their picks for
the next couple of years, that's not that exciting because
that team stayed going to be good. If that team
has a third team's picks, yeah, you'd be interested in
that so that it doesn't rely on your performance or
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that team with Giannis's performance. But now you're threading a needle.
So that's another reason why New York would make some sense.
They have some players that the Bucks could get that
would help them retrofit their team.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Right now, I'm talking to Brian win Horst, ESPN, Senior
NBA writer, help me understand the Chris Paul situation of
why it had to happen on the road in Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Well, that seems crazy, you know. And one of the
things that Lawrence Frank, So, first off, Lawrence Frank had
this press conference yesterday. The general manager of the President,
I meik it's the president is its title, And first off,
he said, put all the blame on me, which maybe
Lawrence wanted to do it, but I promise you it
was not only him who wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
It, but.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Doing it the way they did it. He said that
they made the decision on Sunday. Dan, Okay, let's just
let's just take that for the truth. Why was he
in Miami on Monday? They're starting a long road trip
and you know, Lawrence explained that the reason this happened
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in the middle of the night was because their flight
was delayed by five hours, which it was. They didn't
land in Atlanta Airport until nine thirty. You know how
long it is to get from Atlanta Airport to downtown.
It doesn't take five minutes. They met at eleven o'clock.
In the meeting went several hours. So why do you
do it at eleven o'clock? You know, I don't you know?
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So like, the actual functionality of the way they handled
it is wretched. The decision. You've been around sports for
a long time. When you have a player who is
very vocal, who all of a sudden has a small role,
it doesn't work. Chris Paul's whole career, he's been very vocal.
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He's been vocal with the officials, he's been vocal with
his coach, the opposing coach. He's been vocal with the
opposing star player, with his star play, with his role players.
Imagine what he says off the court. You can just
see what he says on the court. And when you're
the star player and the point guard and you're playing
all eighty two games and your team is competing for
conference titles or whatever, that's one thing. When you're doing
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that and the team is sinking and you're of a
much smaller role, it doesn't work. I knew this twenty
years ago when I started the NBA. This is a
bit of a classic case situation. And you could say, well,
then why the Clippers bring him in knowing that he
would have a small role and that this was possible.
That's fair, And I would just say that of the
Clippers miscalculations this season, it's on the list. But there's
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a long list of Clippers miscalculations so far.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
When do you feel like we'll get a true sense
of Lebron's role with the Lakers? If is he a
third option now? And you know, I guess the future
of how long does he want to play? Feel like
he can play and being a maybe a third option
for the Lakers and what role that plays.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
It's an interesting set of circumstances that's happened because I
thought Lebron was awesome last year. He was second team
All NBA. I thought he looked great. You know, the
Lakers had a disappointing end of the season. There was
a bad matchup for them with Minnesota. But I thought
that they really achieved in the regular season. They got
the three seed. I mean, I know, the difference between
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the three and the six was really tight, but they
got it. And you know, people were saying to me,
why do you think this is it for Lebron, And
I'm like, no, Like, look at him. He's still one
of the top ten to fifteen players in the league.
And then a couple of things happened. First off, he
had two injuries dan So he sprained his knee in
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the last playoff game against the Wolves. In fact, had
they extended that series, I don't know if he could
have played. He missed training, he was out for weeks.
He had He's never missed a playoff game in all
you know, twenty years in the playoffs, he's never missed
a playoff game. I'm not sure you've been able to
play in the next game.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So he had this knee injury.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Then he hits the sciatica, so he has the most
injured off season he's ever had, which maybe isn't a
surprise at age forty, but it's still completely new. Also,
they get Luca, so Lebron was already having a great season.
Lebron played well when Luca after Luca got there, but
the Luca thing happens. Then he has the injuries. Okay,
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so these are two things that we've never seen. We've
never seen him not be the A one A guy
on his team. We've never seen him have off season
injuries before. Then his team without him plays really really well.
Absolutely never happened. Maybe his team has been able to
keep their nose above water when he's been out, whether
it's been for you know, a week or a month,
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They've never achieved. You've never looked at a team that
has missed Lebron for multiple games and gone, man, they're
doing great. And Austin Reeves is having a career year.
So you've got this series of circumstances that he's never
experienced before. Not to mention not getting able to start
a season not having to have a training camp, so
we are in completely unknown territory for him. It would
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be unknown territory if any one of those things was true.
Now the whole menu is true. And by the way,
he rejoins the team as the number one score in
the history of the league, where the two guys on
his team are in the top ten in scoring, Reeves
and Luca are like one in nine. I don't have
and checked it today. Maybe Reeves dropped a little bit,
but when he came back, I think they were one
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in eight. So you're asking, you're this is a completely
different situation he's ever done. And the team's winning, you know,
you're not coming in and boy, the team struggling, and
now you got so I think he is absolutely in
a little bit of the deep end of the pool
that he's never been in before. I mean, how as
it's been since Lebron's been in a situation that he
hasn't not only seen but mastered. So this is awkward
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and he's showing his age.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
The other night in that game was really a game
where I really looked thought Lebron looked like an older
player for the first time, where he wasn't getting left.
I mean, he had no rebounds, no steals, no blocks.
That's never happened in twenty three years, thousands of games.
So you're asking a really relevant question. I don't think
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anybody knows. I think he's going through this day to
day trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Would you be more surprised if he played another year
or he retired at the end of this year?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I am. I thought, you know, even as recently as
last spring, he has years left. I was not entertaining
that this was going to be it regardless of the contract,
which as that's also something he's never experienced before, but
is not really relevant. I don't think that's affecting his
day to day.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Now.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I'm just I'm just in the middle of I don't know,
and I know it's an unsatisfactory answer, and I think
Lebron has pretty much said the same thing. He said,
I don't know. I think Rich Paul, his agent, has
said I don't know. I don't know. But that's that's
a departure from me because I was in the camp
of this guy could Tom Bradiot like I mean, and
he still could Tom Bradiot, but if you watched him
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play last year. There's no way you said that's a
guy about to retire.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Wendy, thank you. I know you're busy. Thanks for joining.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Have a good day.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
That's Brian Windhorst, ESPN Senior NBA writer, and I remember
when he brought this up. It was in the preseason
about Giannis and the Knicks, and then it kind of just,
I don't know, that flittered away, and then all of
a sudden it resurfaced, and then you know, Shams is
talking about he wants out, and next thing you know,
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he's playing in the game last night and then he's
out in the first quarter, gets injured. Now all of
a sudden trade speculation and which teams could pony up
for Giannis. But Brian was on that story a few
months ago. We'll take a break. We'll get to more
phone calls coming up. We're back after this in The
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Speaker 2 (17:51):
Cody in Texas, Hi, Cody, what's on your mind today? Hey?
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Dan, got a big game tonight Dallas and Detroit.
Speaker 9 (18:01):
Wanted to run something by you.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
You know, it's Christmas time and there's no cowboys gearing
the DP store. If the Cowboys win tonight, trade up
some shirts, says Jerry.
Speaker 10 (18:13):
Was right.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Uh, we don't have to print up T shirts to
say some of that, you know. But we were talking
about the mikeh and thank you for the phone call, Cody.
I know Jerry's getting credit a little more credit, but
if they don't bring in Quinn Williams, then that defense
is not as formidable as it's been. We're talking about
Michael Parsons and the trade they made with Michael Parsons.
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I didn't think was a great trade for Dallas, but
if you get assets from the packers and you can
use them and then you bring in Quinn Williams. Okay,
now we can assess that trade. And I think Dallas,
let's put it this way, green Bay is going to
do that trade no matter what. If you said, hey,
you want to do it again, green Bay is going
to say yes, and Dallas can say we'll do it
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again because we're going to bring in Quinn Williams. Yes, Yes, Pauling.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
The one thing about Quinn Williams, he's way less expensive
than Michah Parsons. He's eight and a half millions this year,
He's twenty two million next year and twenty five million
the next year after that twenty twenty seven, So it's
half the investment, less than half the investment for a
pretty high end player who's still in his prime.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, but they don't have a pass rusher. So he's
really good at what he's being paid to do. But
Michaeh Parsons is in an elite category. He's going to
be second for Defensive Player of the Year. He's still
a great player and he's a difference maker. Quinn Williams
is one of those guys that you have to watch
the game and you go, man, he's in on a
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lot of these tackles and he kind of clutters up
the middle. He does that, and he's been great. And
Dallas is a better than average defense now, and that's
what we said. If they were better than average, it's
with that offense that's above average, they would be a
playoff team. So it's no surprise. But Jerry, Jerry fumbled
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the Michaeh Parsons deal because that could have been done
a while ago, and Jerry let pride and Ego get
into it and then they it turned out good. It
turned out well for Dallas, but Green Bay is probably
thrilled that they have Michael Parsons. Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
They also got George Pickens for a third round draft
pick and a fifth round in twenty twenty seven, which
this year working out fantastic.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah. They took a chance on a guy who was
in the final year of his contract and it's turned
out well. But there's the reason why I didn't work
out in Pittsburgh, and that would would be what I
would be aware of or be aware of, because once
he gets that contract and he's gonna want Cede Lamb
money and he is outperformed Cede Lamb, Are you going
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to give him that kind of money? So you'd be
wrapped up with DA's money, Cede Lamb, and then you'd
have George Pickens, so you would have what almost you'd
have one hundred million dollars in three players. That would
be a little bit of a concern for me, just
a little bit. PAULI brought this up to me yesterday
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and we weren't on the air, and he said he
was kind of joking, but you know, kind of half serious.
And he goes, here's Notre Dame and Notre Dame not
in the conference, so they can't play another game. And
if they could play another game and maybe they beat
Air Force Academy or something, you kind of stay in
the conversation and maybe that helps your playoff push. Here
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what turns out Vanderbilt, according to ESPN Pete Thamil, Vanderbilt
was trying to schedule another game. They're not going to
be in the SEC title game, and Vandy was like, well, okay,
we got two losses, we're not going to be in
the playoff picture. I think they might be thirteenth and
they're ten and two, and they're saying, can we schedule
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the game, and I don't know if the NCAA or
the SEC said no, you can't as much as they
were obstacles to try to play that game. But I
don't know. Is there a limit on the number of
games that you can play during a regular season? As
college football cap the number of games that you can
play during the regular season, because we know if you
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get into the playoffs, you're going to play you know,
two three more games. But can you add just add
a game? Vanderbilt tried and they were told that there
are too many obstacles in the way. This according to ESPN,
Yes Pauling.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
But according to this ES report, it was that they
couldn't get it together in time to put together game.
Not necessarily that the SEC or NCAA said no to them,
but what a sport that the team says, you know what,
with a week's notice, we're going to add a football
game just to boost our resume. An exhibition game, I guess,
exempt game. And that is even a possibility in the
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sport that was pursued.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Wait, it was going to be an exhibition game, Well, it.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Was going to be an exempt game, like it's not
on the regular schedule or be just an add on game,
like you said, versus Army or Yukon or someone like that.
That's independent, But it's unclear that if they could have
done it, if they got their stuff together.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, I wonder about this when you have conference title
games and then you have some schools that you know,
Notre Dame doesn't have a conference that they're in. You
know that's on Notre Dame. But could Notre Dame have
added a game, you know, if it was Army, Like,
what's the downside to that other than if you don't
play well? But I think they're trying to stay in
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the conversation. And their schedule in the second half of
the season wasn't very good. You know, you're watching them
play really good football, but you're not going, oh, they
beat Oklahoma or they beat Tennessee. Yes, tod the schedule.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Is the schedule That is ridiculous that they would even
entertain the thought of allowing such a thing. This is
your schedule, here's your opportunity. These are the schools. Some
of them make you decided to play against, whether it's
a strong or not strong team. And that's just the
way it is. When it's over, it's over. That's your
winter loss record. You can all of a sudden try
to add a game. Think about that in any other sport,
that'll be insane seatan.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
You know, football teams pro or NFL, or at pro
or college don't seem to be in the business of
just adding games because it'd be fun, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Well, yeah, there's a bigger picture here, and that is
we want to stay on your radar. We want to
show you just how good we are we're not playing.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I don't think Notre Dame doesn't have that problem with
staying on the radar. They don't need an extra game
to be like, ah, I see, we actually do deserve it.
If anything, you're risking like injury and other loss another
the downside to me is way stronger than you know,
throwing in another game to be like, ah see, we
beat them too.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, I think even Notre Dame needs a little attention.
You got Marcus free been going on to the Today Show,
fly to New York, go on to Today Show and
talk about Notre Dame and then the season, and that
just felt like a uh oh, we got to get
something going here. We got to get people, you know,
continuing to talk about us, because if BYU beat Texas Tech.
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I don't think Notre Dame's in.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Notre Dame is like the only school that has their
own network or where they were for the longest time.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
That the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
The biggest criticism of Notre Dame since my whole life
has been that they're so overexposed.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Well, then why go on the Today Show. The timing
of that to go on the Today Show was just surprising.
I think for Marcus Freeman that yes, you're with NBC
and there's some programming with behind the scenes with Notre
Dame football.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah, I mean he's he's the only coach in the
country that can do that because because he's the Notre
Dame head coach, not because he's like begging for airtime.
He's he's the only one. They're not having any other
college coaches on. They just had that one on because
that's how.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Big they are. Well, no, they have a partnership with NBC,
But why would he go to New York to talk
about a behind the scenes Notre Dame series that's not
on NBC. It felt like he was It felt like
it was twofold. It was like, Hey, just letting everybody
know what we do at Notre Dame football branding maybe
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for an audience that's not really a football audience. That
to me was surprising. It felt like there was It
felt like there was more to that that he's going
on the Today Show just to remind people or say, hey,
we're Notre Dame football and they may get left out
of the playoffs.
Speaker 11 (26:42):
Yes, Mart, but Notre Dame feels like the last school
that needs this at all in any way, shape or form.
But also, if they beat Army, say they play another game, Okay, great,
you beat Army, You're still not getting in the playoffs.
And then you would have to molly wat them. You
would have to kill them because college football is about
style points. So if you play them and you beat
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Army twenty to ten, they're gonna be look it barely
beat a service academy, so they're not gonna give it.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
If Vandy plays Army, they're not getting into the playoffs.
But they were trying to play another game. Yet.
Speaker 11 (27:16):
I don't see the point in this either way for
either school.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Why yeah, Paul, I have a little more detail on this,
this bandy thing. According to Yahoo Sports, it would be
a game that would never count on their official record
in the nca record books. If they added a game
this weekend, and there's no guarantee that the playoff committee
would look at it or be allowed to look at
it because it's not a game under the NCAA's jurisdiction.
(27:41):
And I looked up Diego Povey is not on the
view tomorrow. He's not chopping up with the ladies.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Okay, okay, but he might be on the CBS Morning
Show with Gail King.
Speaker 12 (27:52):
Check it.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, of course if he brings, if he brings his mom,
then they would probably have them on. Absolutely adding another
game though, it was kind of interesting. Yeah, but PAULI
brought that up with Notre Dame. If you play another game,
and I'm like, unless you're playing a really good team
that you know on a neutral sight or something, then maybe,
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but I can't see them. Ay, we're gonna play Army,
all right, man, And we won forty four to seven.
We should be in the playoffs. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
If BYU wins and Notre Dame is out of the playoffs,
the BYU Texas Bowl game matchup would be the best
one you could put together. I don't know which ball
would have first, right, Citrus Bowl or whatever it may be.
But if you could put together Texas and Notre Dame
in a bowl game' that'd be fantastic.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, yes, Tom.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
If a school would ever have the right to play
one extra game to prove that they belong in, it
should work the other way as well. Any other school
that are on the fence should be forced them to
play a game and they run the risk of getting
knocked out if it looked like they were going to
get that eleven or twelfth spot. You can't just work
one way. At the very end, you create this new game.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
A couple of phone calls here eight seven to seven
to three DP show Adam in La Hi, Adam, what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (29:11):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (29:11):
Dad, I think there is someone onto something here that
could satisfy sort of the Oh we got screw we
were left out. What about the two teams that are
sort of on the bubble here, like Vanderbilt Notre Dame.
You guys play for the twelfth spot. We've called you
guys thirteen and twelve, and you guys play it out.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
A play in game, is what you're talking about, Adam. Oh, brother,
don't give them any it's not the play and it's
called it's the first round. Okay, it's not the.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Play It'll be the first four, yes, both In all seriousness,
this has been brought up before, some type of playing
game for the twelfth spot. But next weekend, not this weekend.
Is Army Navy stand alone. There are FCS games playoff games,
but that would be a touchy one because Army Navy
gets the weekend to themselves. Of course, tradition usually gets
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bought out. But if you could have an night game
after Army Navy at the day game, it's a playing
game that could possibly work.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Boy Fred and Fred in West Virginia. Hey, Fred, what's
on your mind?
Speaker 12 (30:12):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 13 (30:13):
Thank you for working through it this week man, you're
doing a great job in the spirit of great content,
which we all know you of. Wendy made me think
a little bit the possibility of Giannis going to Dallas Mavericks.
They can get under they can get out from under
a d They've got some they've got some draft they
(30:36):
could offer up. I think it would be a lot
of fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Okay, but here's the thing, Fred, we always look at
these trades and they're one sided, and you go, boy,
look at what Dallas is going to get If I'm Milwaukee,
I don't want Anthony Davis. I don't like I want
Cooper Flag, but I don't Why would I want Anthony Davis.
Dallas probably doesn't want Anthony Davis. Thank you for I
(31:02):
could put Giannis in there with Dallas, but you make
it seem like I don't know somebody won Anthony Davis. Uh,
I don't know? And what are you getting in return
for Anthony Davis? Aiden in Utah, Hi, Aiden, thanks for
holding what's on your mind? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (31:21):
Quick thing. Vanderbilt went from being a cute little story,
you know, wow, this already team and now turned into
maybe a powerhouse in the SEC two almost unbearable. Hey, diango,
if you would have won those two games you lost
instead of trying to, you know, strengthen your Eisman campaign
and like play team football, maybe you'd be in the
playoff contention.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Just win your games, all right? Aiden on fire today?
Speaker 6 (31:52):
Yeah, if Vandy is getting called out for decisions on
national sports.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Radio, you become a football school.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
If you're trying to play an extra game to impress
the need, just a couple of recruiting violations and they're
officially a football school.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, they need to get caught cheating and then they
could be a big time program here. All right, we'll
take a break, Last call for phone calls, what we learn,
What's in store tomorrow? And this dang sports history after this.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
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listen live, Last call for phone calls, What we learn,
What's in store tomorrow. Nice to know that one of
my college football sources is listening to the program. Adding
(32:38):
a thirteenth game can't just happen, Especially for appeal to
the committee.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
There is a Hawaii exemption. A Hawaii exemption, if an
FBS team plays a game in Hawaii, it's allowed to
schedule one additional regular season game. It applies whether the
team travels to Hawaii or host to Hawaii. The purpose
is to offset increase travel cost. So if a Mountain
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West or Pac twelve school plays at Hawaii, they can
schedule with thirteenth game. The NCAA officially allowed a twelve
game regular season that began in two thousand and six,
So you get to play twelve games, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
I wonder if teams know that tidbit, because you could
go out to Hawaii early in the season and then
add another team late in the season and boost your schedule.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I mean Notre Dame needs to do that, Yes, schedule Hawaii.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
What if everyone learned about this and the next thing
you know, Hawaii's got Alabama coming to town.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Notre Dame, Bandy, everybody wants to play Hawaii? Well, who
wouldn't want to go to Hawaii? H Anyway? Yeah? Uh,
Tony in California? Hi, Tony, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 14 (33:50):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (33:51):
Guys?
Speaker 13 (33:51):
How's going today?
Speaker 12 (33:52):
Beautiful day?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Thank you?
Speaker 12 (33:55):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (33:55):
So, first of all, I want to compliment you guys
are so nice to me as first I ever call
it into sports soccer radio show, and you guys are
so kind. I want to congratulate you on that.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Thanks you sure it was us, Tony?
Speaker 13 (34:09):
Yeah it was you.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
Yeah, it was you. I told you, you know, I
told you. God somebody lls you. But anyways, I want
to talk about the Clippers if I could. Okay, I
need your help, man. What am I gonna do with
this team? I've been some brew up in San Diego,
used to go Clipper games, Drome, Whitehead will be free.
You know Freeman Williams, you know, Danny Manning. But what
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are we gonna do?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Like we got rid of You should have known, you
should have known back then of what was in store
for you. You can't quit now, I mean, come on,
gone through. I was gonna say the his and lows,
but it's it's it's lows and some higher lows. But yeah,
(34:55):
it's a mess. Sorry about that, Tony. Yeah, Seed, I.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Get the sense Tony's been facetious there about his first
time calling in and we were kind to him.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Oh really yeah, yeah, I thought he was being very tony.
Were you being serious or sarcastic? There?
Speaker 7 (35:11):
No?
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Very serious? Yeah, no, okay, I said I never called
the sports show, but back twenty years ago I called
Jim Rome. They were rude. I like Jim Rome, but
he was rude, racking.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Thank you, Tony, I am out, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
You know, the Clippers have made the postseason fourteen of
the past sixteen years. They used to have dry spells
where they go eight or nine years or not even
a postseason appearance. They haven't gone very deep, but they're
in it ish well.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Half the league makes the playoffs. I'm trying to spin
it positive, I know, but you can't go, man, we
make Okay, then you must love what the Steelers have
been doing. They make the playoffs. Yeah, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 11 (35:55):
But if you're the Clippers, you were the worst franchise
in all of American sports. And I'm pretty confident saying
that for most of my childhood. But when Chris Paul
got there, they became a respectable franchise, and you know what,
they're contender ish.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Remember when Arsenio Hall and Billy Crystal would go and
we'd like, man, you know, they got their celebrities there.
I think it was just those two where you go
to a Laker game in the entire you know, first row,
surrounding the court celebrities.
Speaker 11 (36:22):
Yes, Mark, don't forget about Franki Ninez from Malcolm in
the Middle. He was a Clippers fan.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Too, Certainly, I did forget about Frankie. Three big stars. Okay,
all right, man, the Clippers thought they had had figured out.
You know what, we're gonna trade this guy SGA. We're
gonna get Paul George and we're gonna give them draft
picks like okay, we're gonna bring in Kawhi. We're gonna
(36:49):
get Kawhi phantom jobs. We're gonna We're gonna bring him in.
It doesn't matter. He's gonna be ready for the postseason. Hey,
you know what, how about James Harden. Let's bring him
in as well. Okay, yeah, Pull, here's a weird stat
for you.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
In the past thirteen seasons, the Clippers have made the
postseason eleven times. In the past thirteen seasons, the Lakers
have made the postseason five times.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
You'd win it?
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Whoa whoa stand of the day? Stant of to day?
Stant a day, stan of a day?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
This is the stanle of the day. But if I
said to a Clipper fan, you're gonna make the playoffs
five times, but you're gonna win an NBA championship, orre
you gonna make it eleven consecutive times? I know what
your answer would be. Should be Ray in Massachusetts, Good morning, Ray,
what's on your mind? Hi On Dan, you're doing it well.
Speaker 14 (37:44):
John. I loved you ever since you were on ESPN.
And I want to shout out my Chicago Bears. I'm
born raised in Springfield, but I'm a die out Chicago
Bears fan and pubs.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Unfortunately, well, you guys did win a championship not too
long ago. Thank you, Ray, thank you, great job all
around there. You want to share the wealth. It's not
just for me to everybody. Todd, that's very nice. Now
(38:20):
I'm saying, not you. It's awkward.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
He got very awkward.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Just Nick and Colorado. Hi, Nick, what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (38:34):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (38:35):
Six foot one sixty five.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (38:40):
The only thing I was going to suggest for the
college football playoff is, well, don't they just make it
a tournament style like basketball? Maybe a certain win percentage
or conference? Uh, you know what your record is in
the conference gets you in, and you know you get
about half or a quarter of the teams and all
the different conferences, and nobody could complain that they weren't
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allowed to come in.
Speaker 8 (39:01):
Expeat.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I don't know why Division three playoffs works, but it
doesn't work for higher grades, higher levels FCS seems to work.
I don't know. I don't know if adding more teams
solves everything, but I'm told that they're not going to
fourteen or sixteen teams next year and would probably be
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the year after that that they're going to do that.
How about this James sports history, Paul, You got anything
A couple for you. This is old school.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Nineteen seventy seven, Tony Dorset of the Cowboys, as a rookie,
ran for two hundred and six yards against the Eagles,
only the third rookie in history to run for more
than two hundred yards in the game. Bonus coverage. Who
has the rookie rushing record for a single game, and
I think it might be the all time rushing record
for a single game. Who wants a piece of it?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Marvin Adrian Pearson bloop.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Adrian Peterson in his eighth game ran for two hundred
ninety six yards on thirty carries, nine nine yards of carry,
three touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Now he's fighting guys at poker game. Man, let me
see anything else here? Yeah? I got one more? Anything else? Yeah? Okay.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
Nineteen eighty seven, Kareem medl Jabbar was held to seven
points in the game. He had scored at least ten
in the game the previous seven hundred and eighty seven games.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Is that broke his story? Lebron's up to twelve hundred.
He just got that the other night where it seemed
like he was staying in the game to be able
to get his ten points.
Speaker 11 (40:39):
Is that right, Marvin, when you're on the court with
your son, that's not good. Just jacking up threes, no good,
what a chucker.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
But he did get He got the double digits, though
I think he extended his streak. It's the all time record.
Would you learn, Todd?
Speaker 5 (40:52):
We all learned from Pauli in his four years a
due Christian Lana lost just twenty six games as the
rookie with the t Wolves. Sixty three games lost that season, Sat.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
And what did you learn? The Hawaii exemption? Yes, who
knew Marvin between the lines. Yeah, Paulie, we're all going
to Hawaii. Enjoy the football tonight. We'll recap it tomorrow
for Fritzie's seat and Marv, Paula yours truly in the BRGS.
We'll talk to you on Friday.