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December 9, 2025 41 mins

NFL insider Sal Paolantonio drops by to break down last night’s sloppy OT thriller on Monday Night Football between the Chargers and Eagles. Plus, Dan addresses the Colts’ decision to bring in 44-year-old Philip Rivers for a workout after QB Daniel Jones went down with an injury.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Net's Dan Patrick Show,
We'll check in with the Eagles. What's wrong with the
Eagles sloppy sloppy game last night? And Jalen hurts he
cost the Eagles in a big way. You have four interceptions,
also had a fumble. Had an interception and a fumble
on the same play, which is really rarefied air that

(00:27):
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Reggie Miller a little bit later on and the possibility
that Philip rivers will not only be on the Colts
roster this weekend, but on the field as the Colts.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Starter in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
We'll talk to Albert Breer the Monday Morning quarterback about
that possibility. The forty four year old Philip Rivers, who
I don't think is played in five years, but that
is a desperate team the Colts right now. Poll questions
in the first hour were really good, spicy there. You
want to clean up the mess there out Seaton and
we move on to hour two.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, Philip Rivers coming back to quarterback the Colts is
a great idea or a terrible idea right now. Seventy
three percent have that as a terrible idea. That is
the correct answer there. And man, they're in trouble. Colts, Chiefs, Eagles, Ravens.
It is in that order. Colts, Chiefs, Eagles, Ravens.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
It was a feel good story. It doesn't feel so
good now with the Colts. They started out seven to
one and with the injuries to their quarterbacks with Danny Dimes,
Riley Leonard came in former Notre Dame quarterback. He's banged
up a little bit, and they play Seattle in Seattle
coming up this weekend watching last night, the Chargers defense

(02:15):
is what stood out to me. It's really good and
just asked Jalen Hurts with four interceptions. Here is Hurts
after the game talking about the interception in overtime.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
I knew it was going to be a tight window throw.
I'd have to watch the film to see see it
from the eyes of film's point of view. Awtime, it's
it's a play that I didn't make. He got to
handle the ball.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
That's a play that we've made.

Speaker 6 (02:45):
A million times in that scenario versus a cloud corner,
and I didn't make that play this time around.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I don't know how we're gonna view Jalen Hurts when
his career is over, because it could be one of
those careers that's similar to Eli Manning, that he might
win a couple of Super Bowls.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
But the regular season numbers are like.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Eh okay, and it feels like defenses are saying, let's
see if you can beat us.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
And you would think.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
With those two receivers in that tight end, he would
be able to beat you. But the jury is still out,
at least myself my opinion. As much as I like
him in a big game and He's shown that he
can play in a big game. Both those Super Bowls
he played really, really well. It's just there are times
when you go, what's missing here. I don't think he's

(03:37):
a good pocket passer, a consistent one, but I do
think he can come up with big plays and his
demeanor is very calm. Those are great attributes to have.
At the goal line, he's really good the tush push.
You know, the moment is rarely too big for him.
But that's why I watch South. Palantonio covers the Eagles

(04:00):
among the other teams in the NFL, but he's stationed
in Philadelphia and get his thoughts on what is missing
with this team? How dangerous can they still be in
the NFC playoff? Picture all right eight seven to seven
three DP show operators sitting by to take your phone calls.
Notre Dame as a press conference in two hours from
now based off what happened yesterday, the fallout from that,

(04:23):
it feels like something is coming and that was almost
like a pre limb to all eyes need to be
on this press conference at noon Eastern with Notre Dame.
Is this we're taking our balls in going home from
the ACC. Do they maybe come up with a partnership
with the Big Ten. I'm still waiting for information on this,

(04:46):
or at least information I can go with, and everything
up until this point has been just speculation. But it
felt like permanent damage. Permanent damage was used yesterday by
Pete Bovaqua, their athletic director. That sounds like the point
of no return. I am still waiting to get more
information on what exactly was the acc portion of the

(05:11):
College Football Playoff Committee arguing for and against with their
own conference, because if Virginia had won, James Madison would
have been out of the playoff picture.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
But Miami is still in over Notre Dame. And I
think that's where.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
I'm going to say it one more time so people
understand if this was reversed. Just imagine the outcry if
Miami was ranked in front of Notre Dame for five
weeks and nothing changed, and then all of a sudden,
the College Football Playoff Committee says, oh, we put Notre
Dame in front of Miami. How would you have reacted?

(05:51):
So those of you said, oh, you gave him a
free pass. You know, part of being an interviewer is
to give somebody an opportunity to speak because the more
you talk, the more likely I'm going to get some
information here. I'm going to get something that is going
to be headline worthy. That's what you want, that's my goal.
I don't get caught up in long questions. I want

(06:13):
long answers. And Pete gave you something yesterday and it
became a headline all across sports. If it had been reversed,
what would we be saying about the college football playoffs
selection show? It's rigged, it's fixed, Notre Dame the brand,
what didn't happen? And I have no problem with Miami

(06:36):
being in at all, no issue, But I have a
problem that you're going to say, well, last minute, we're
just going to have Miami over Notre Dame. And why
didn't you do that before? That would have been my
only argument. Alabama should have dropped further. In my opinion,
I didn't think they look competitive against Georgia. Those are
my knocks on this. Now there's other problems I have

(06:57):
with this. I'm just curious what is exactly does permanent
damage mean with Notre Dame in their relationship with the ACC.
Cameron in Indiana, I can what's on your mind today?

Speaker 7 (07:10):
So Hey, I just wanted to take you back on
you guys with that. So I guess my question for
you guys would be either the Mothership or the ACC
snubbing Notre Dame. Do you guys think this leads to
the ACC completely being torn down?

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I don't know what's going to happen with the ACC.
Florida State wanted out. I think that Clemson had some issues.
I think I think that there was the concern how
does the national media view the ACC and they don't
view them anywhere near the SEC or the Big Ten.
And I think that there was concern, a worry that

(07:51):
are we going to be taken as seriously as some
of these other conferences? And the answer is no, you don't,
you're not, And then you have this fiasco here as well.

Speaker 8 (08:01):
Yeah, Paulie, and the ACC does not have Clemson barging
down the door of the SEC like it did five
years ago, which kept it very relevant.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Uh, Tony in California, Hi, Tony, what's on your mind?

Speaker 9 (08:15):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (08:15):
Good morning Dan, getting up, Good morning, Marmon, beautiful day. Okay, Hey,
you know I only call them when I'm super fired
up about something, and this goes against one of my
life principle of the College Football Committee. Like I've taught
my kids, if you're going to make a completely arbitrary,

(08:35):
subjective decision, make sure there's an element of cool or adventure.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
What a miss. They should have bumped up arbitrarily LSU
because of the god oday best coach in the country.
Send him to Oxford Connor McGregor to be a security guard.
Shafts up there, the governor out out on a few
people long, you know what I mean? All Right, we win,
we take the best ten players back to LSU with us.
What we lose in the LSU crazies come out and

(09:01):
start calling for Link Kissing's job. What an opportunity at all?

Speaker 9 (09:06):
Right?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, thank you, Tony. You know I'm big on content.
All right.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I just got this from a source, and he says,
given that the College Football Playoff Committee has until January
twenty third to determine the format, I'd be surprised if
anything is.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Announced with Notre Dame that's firm today.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
My source says, I could see them maybe saying they're
going to review all options for sixty days.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
No, once again, that's a trusted source on this.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Does Notre Dame say anything that's declarative or do they
say we're going to put our relationship now, this is
what I would do. I would say, we're going to
put our relationship with the ACC under review over the
next thirty days. In the new year, we'll announce, you know,

(09:59):
because this allows the ACC and Notre Dame to do
some backchanneling, to be able to talk this out and
can you smooth this over? And if not, then you know,
it might be full steam ahead where they go. You
know what, We're going to take all of our teams
and go to the Big Ten and we're going to
make our schedule a little more Big Ten friendly, and

(10:20):
then everybody wins as far as Notre Dame of the
Big Ten, and the ACC would lose out on Notre
Dame when it comes to you know, basketball and the
other I think they have twenty four sports that are
associated with the ACC. But that's a press conference coming
up at noon Eastern, I believe Chris and Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Hi Chris, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 11 (10:44):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (10:44):
Dan? I was watching and first of all, thanks you
guys provide such entertainment for me in the morning. It's tremendous.
But anyways, watching the SEC Nation this weekend, and one
of the SEC hosts mentioned that he was speaking with
a higher up in the SEC chain and the guy
said to him, he goes, what are we doing here?

(11:05):
So you know they're they're they're relying on the committee.
So maybe I'm thinking SEC goes on their own. All
four conferences go on their own. You have your championship
weekend with your top four teams like they had last weekend.
You take your two winners. SEC goes to the Sugar Bowl.
ACC goes to the Orange Bowl, Big twelve down the
Cotton Bowl, Big ten to the Rose Bull. You get

(11:28):
your champion of each conference there. And then you say, okay, fellas,
we're headed to Arizona and we're going to have a
final four weekend in Arizona and we'll get a national
champion out of it, or you know, two weekends, you
can't play day after that. I just think that they
want to if you want to get the committee out
of the whole count things. Each conference takes on their

(11:49):
own their own thing.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
All right, a lot of scenarios here. Let's decide how
many teams we're going to have next year. Because I've
heard from staying firm twelve to going to fourteen or
going to sixteen. I think it's in a state of
flux here. How about we figure that out here. The
fact that Notre Dame is locked in if they're ranked
twelve or lower or higher, I guess twelve or better,

(12:17):
they're in the college football playoffs next year. Where did
that come from? So for everybody who says Notre Dame
doesn't have any cachet, they just manipulated the system to
say we're in it if we're ranked in the top twelve.
I know Paul Feinbaum was on the Mothership saying, hey,

(12:38):
nobody cares about Notre Dame the way they think they do.
I'm paraphrasing, and maybe that's. You know, it's not the
way it was when we're growing up. Notre Dame still holds,
you know cache they do. They just said to the
college Football Playoff Committee, if we're in the top twelve,
then we're going to be in the playoffs, and they

(12:59):
accepted that. That's when you got some swag. Whether Paul
Findbaumb and we reached out to find Bumb. I think
he's gonna join us tomorrow on the program. Let me
see what else do we have here, Uh, Jeff and Austin. I, Jeff,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 12 (13:18):
Good morning, Dan? Hey can you hear me?

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Okay?

Speaker 13 (13:23):
Hey, six to two? And I've always been big bone
two sixty five big.

Speaker 12 (13:30):
And big bone baby, I got it.

Speaker 13 (13:34):
Me and my buddies came up with a new format
for the college playoffs. How about we we canceled the
championship games, the conference championship games, and on that Saturday,
have the first four, the last four in and the
first four out play each other. So you'd have Notre
Dame versus James Madison Texas versus you know whoever the

(13:58):
other small ones were.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
Yeah, and have.

Speaker 13 (14:02):
Them for play on that Saturday, and whoever wins those
four are in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Well, I gotta be careful of how many games I'm
asking these college kids to play as well.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
But thank you.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Everybody seems to have an answer for the format, except
for the people are supposed to have an answer for
the format, and the College foot No Playoff Committee.

Speaker 8 (14:21):
Yes, Paulie, I got a little more from a person
who knows exactly The agenda today is Notre Dame press conference.
Nothing is being announced today at the not Dayme press conference.
This was a scheduled press conference, and they did this
last year end of the season press conference. It happened
a little earlier than they expected. It's a they do
it every year to end the regular season. I'll talk
about the football program, the contract of the coaches, and

(14:44):
they will touch on the ACC topics some more.

Speaker 14 (14:48):
Yeah, Marvin, do you think other schools like Notre Dame
that have national championship aspirations or expectations will if they
don't make the playoffs, they won't go into a bowl
game going forward.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I wonder about the future bowl games. I do, and
that's why I brought it up yesterday. Can you see
a scenario where bull season is not at the end
of the year, it's at the beginning of the year. Therefore,
you're guaranteed great matchups. We can also get matchups where
you're going to play a quality opponent to start the year,

(15:19):
and then all of a sudden, you know you're playing
games in September and weather won't be an issue. I
just I wonder if that's now you could have back
end bowl games. But as far as the big bowl games,
and I know there's a lot of you know, obstacles
here hurdles here. But if you want to save the
bowl games, you might have to flip the script here

(15:42):
and have them to start the year. You know, when
the ACC plays the Big Ten in basketball, like, we
don't even blink with that. It's like, those are great
matchups beginning of the year. Now, granted you're playing thirty games,
you strength the schedule and all to those, you know,
playing somebody, beating somebody, or even if you lose to

(16:03):
somebody on a neutral site, you know, it doesn't damage
you the way it might in college football. But at
least you're going to save the bowl games. They're going
to mean something because if you add Notre Dame playing
in the Pop Tart Bowl, you got the best running
back in college football who wouldn't play, Jeremiah Love and
probably three or four or five other Notre Dame players

(16:25):
and maybe some players from BYU. You know, that's the
problem that I have with this. If you're going to
have the bowl games, you want to have a decent
representation of that school. And I don't blame these kids
if they're going to sit out. You know, when Christian
McCaffrey and Leonard Fournette did, oh my god, what are

(16:46):
you doing to your teammates. You've done everything you could
up to untill that year, that part of the season,
and now you're playing in the Sun Bowl. I'm okay
if you're going to sit this one out because you're
going to play in the NFL. You've done everything you
can for the school. But I do wonder about the
future of bowl game. Sir, all right, we'll take a break.

(17:08):
South palm Antonio stops by. How concerned is he with
the way the Eagles played last night? The way the
Eagles have been playing and do they have that ability
to be able to flip the switch?

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Speaker 2 (18:04):
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Albert Breer The Monday Morning Quarterback will stop by, and
the decorated ESPN national correspondent South Palantonio covering the NFL
joining us on the program. Salthpal give me one word
to describe the Eagles performance last.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Night, regressing why, well, you know, Jalen.

Speaker 15 (18:29):
Hurts didn't see wide open receivers once again, and his
interceptions I thought were totally avoidable. Let's just go to
the last one in overtime. He flushes to his right. Now, listen,
this drive in overtime was a thing of beauty by
the offense and Jalen Hurts. It was an example, an

(18:51):
illustration of the good, the bad, and the ugly of
this offense this year. So they're driving down the field
on the under duress in overtime to try to win
the football game when they couldn't get it out of
their own way. He's got them on a first and ten.

(19:11):
The Chargers have been flushing him out of the pocket
all game long, he's flushed to his right Dallas Goddard,
who has been his security banket all game. Dan is
sitting there eight yards downfield, wide open, and instead Jalen
Hurts tries to thread the needle to the goal line area.

(19:33):
To Johann Dotson, ball is tipped and picked game over.
That play, to me is indicative from what I see
in that drive, and that play is indicative of what
I think the Eagles could be and what they have become.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
How dangerous are they here trying to regroup with the
final month of the regular season.

Speaker 15 (19:57):
Well, they're in survival mods. I don't know about regroup.
They're in survival mode. They got four games left. They
start with the Raiders, which is an absolute stone cold
Locke must win football game at home after losing three
in a row, and then the Commanders twice, but the
Bills sandwiched in between on the road in Buffalo. So

(20:21):
clearly they must win three out of four. But you know,
they got to get it right with Jalen Hurts. So
Nick Sirianni, as Tim McManus, my colleague on ESPN dot
com reported earlier in the week, finds himself now in
the offensive meeting rooms for the first time, giving his
input more and more to the offense. Question of course

(20:43):
being begged, what took so long?

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Right?

Speaker 15 (20:48):
Why are we waiting until after two losses when the
offense could get out of its way against Detroit and
Green Bay and Chicago. So there's that Why did you
take so long to give your input? Stick your nose
in there? And then after he does, Jalen Hurts has
his worst game as a pro, throws four interceptions. Last

(21:12):
time that's happened for an Eagles quarterback was Donovan McNabb
nineteen ninety nine, when don of McNabb was a rookie.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, he's such a conundrum because, as I've mentioned, if
it's a big game in the bright lights, Jalen Hurts
has played extremely well. It's just we're going to look
at his regular season and its numbers and go why,
But you look at the postseason and you go, is

(21:40):
that the same guy? Why do we have this dichotomy
of regular season postseason with him?

Speaker 9 (21:47):
Well?

Speaker 15 (21:47):
I think there's a couple of things for this year.
Let's just focus on this particular year where they are right.
You know, last night they were missing their best offensive
lineman Lane Johnson, their best defensive lineman, Jalen Carter. They
turned the ball over five times and they were still
in position to win it in overtime. So that's the
big picture. That's also the little picture, which is they've

(22:11):
had a lot of moving parts on the offensive line.
But hey, so did the Buffalo Bills when they went
to the Akersher Stadium two weeks ago without their two
starting offensive tackles. They put two tight ends on the
right side seven plays in a row and ran James
Cook flushing him out one on one with the corner,

(22:31):
and they piled up big yards in the running game.

Speaker 16 (22:33):
So you can't adjust.

Speaker 15 (22:35):
Next man up is the concept in the NFL if
you do it right, But the Eagles haven't gotten it
right yet. With their offensive line hurt Lane Dickerson leaves
the game, that's also an issue. But here's the bottom line.
They threw it forty times last night, only ran at
twenty five against the two deep safety zone defense that

(22:59):
kills the passt game. The Chargers were number two against
the pass. Why are you throwing it forty times. That's
on the coaches, that's on the quarterback, that's on Petullo
Sirianni and Jalen Hurts. He has the ability to go
a lot of scrimmage and check with me and hand
it the Saquon. Everybody's wondering why at Sekon do wells
so well last night? Well, because the Chargers let you

(23:21):
run the ball if you want to.

Speaker 16 (23:24):
Troy Aikman had a great breakdown late in the game.
Saquon goes into the a gap. If he had just
gone to the outside to the decap which was wide open,
he had clear sailing to a linebacker in a safety.

Speaker 15 (23:38):
So part of it is on Saquon. And this is
a running team and the other guy who's not running well,
Dan is the quarterback, whether he's choosing not to or
they don't have enough design runs for him.

Speaker 16 (23:52):
Can this be fixed?

Speaker 15 (23:54):
Absolutely, can be fixed in time for this week. Can
it be salvaged for a Super Bowl run?

Speaker 16 (24:02):
Not sure?

Speaker 9 (24:03):
No.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Talking to South Palmerantonio, ESPN national correspondent covering the NFL,
Philip Rivers may be coming back. I'm wondering what does
that do for his Hall of Fame candidacy. Do they
start the clock like he's eligible for Hall of Fame discussion?

(24:24):
But if he comes back and starts to play again.
Just the clock reset.

Speaker 16 (24:29):
That's a good question. I'm on the committee, and I
don't know the answered.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
No question.

Speaker 16 (24:34):
That wasn't the question I thought you were going to
ask me. I thought you were going to ask.

Speaker 15 (24:38):
Me, how in the world can a guide come back
to the league at age forty four after half.

Speaker 16 (24:42):
A decade of being with his kids and his family.

Speaker 15 (24:45):
And I love Philip Rivers, great family and devoted to
his children.

Speaker 16 (24:51):
But now he's being.

Speaker 15 (24:52):
Enticed to come back by his friends in Indianapolis. And
that's all good. And we've seen what's happened with Aaron Rodgers.
Know what kind of shape Philip Rivers in. I'm sure
they're checking him out. I hope he comes back. It'll
be a great story. It tells the story not only
of where Indianapolis is, but where the NFL is on
the quarterback position, right, So we'll see what happens with

(25:15):
Philip Rivers. He's on the bubble. You know, we voted
last year and Eli Manning didn't get in. I voted
for Eli Manning. I'm a big, big supporter of Elton.
You went two Super Bowl MVPs short list, got to
get in, didn't get in. Philip Rivers is maybe Dan
a notch below Eli Manning, Drew Brees will get in

(25:39):
this year most likely. Hope he does. I will vote
for him. And then there's Eli and Philip Rivers and
let's not forget about Big Ben. So that's the you know,
the pipeline of quarterbacks with Hall of Fame. So Philip
Rivers is in the conversation, but not at the top
of the conversation.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Ben Jen correct, you would think so for sure.

Speaker 15 (26:03):
I mean, you know, I was talking to Merrill Hodge.
We used to be together on the NFL Matchup show.
Merrill used to play in Pittsburgh. You know, he's got,
as I used to say on the show, take the
black and gold underwear.

Speaker 16 (26:15):
Off once in a while. So but he loves Big
Ben and so to why.

Speaker 15 (26:24):
And the thing is, when you look at Ben, he
raised the level of everybody around him.

Speaker 16 (26:30):
For a lot of reasons. Strong arm, that mobility.

Speaker 15 (26:34):
Early in his career, I remember Bill Parcells talking about
the fact that Big Ben was like a you know,
oak Tree on roller skates. You couldn't bring him down.
Great mobility in the pocket, terrific accuracy, and he's got
the titles and the numbers.

Speaker 16 (26:52):
So short answer, yes, that was my long answer.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Sorry man, what's Matthew Stafford's resume missing anything in your
opinion for Hall of Fame?

Speaker 15 (27:02):
Not missing anything? Okay, Matthew Stafford's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
No doubt, no doubt. First ballot.

Speaker 16 (27:12):
Tough. It's always tough first ballot.

Speaker 15 (27:15):
You know we're talking Peyton Manning, Brett Fire, John Elway,
I'm in.

Speaker 16 (27:20):
Are you that guy? Probably not, but he gets in.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Chris Sims brought up the analogy with Josh Allen that
he is the modern day John Elway.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
What do you think of that?

Speaker 16 (27:34):
I like it. I like that analogy quite a bit close.

Speaker 15 (27:38):
But no cigar super strong arm can put on the
cape take over.

Speaker 16 (27:44):
A football game.

Speaker 15 (27:46):
Go back and just watch just some of the highlights
we throw in the old twenty two if you like to,
like I did, of just a Bill's offense, because I'm
doing Bill's at Patriots in Foxborough first time. I'm going
back to Patriot Place by away since Tom Brady left,
and why wouldn't you This is a huge game. But
go back and look at the Bills offense, especially in

(28:08):
the second half, in the driving snow.

Speaker 16 (28:13):
Right and Josh Allen three touchdown.

Speaker 15 (28:16):
Passes runs for another one, the longest touchdown run of
his career in the drive in snow.

Speaker 16 (28:23):
What a performance by Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Good to catch up with you again. I like when
you're fired up there. Thank you for joining us, Sal, Dan.

Speaker 16 (28:32):
You get me fired up, Dan.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Then mission accomplished. Thank you, Sal.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
South Palatonio, ESPN national correspondent covering the NFL.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
You know, I don't know if I ever told Sal.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Maybe I did, but there was a moment on the
six o'clock Sports Center when I realized that I shouldn't
be doing Sports Center anymore. I threw it out to
South Palatonio. I think we started the show, and you know,
we went out to Supau for something breaking with the NFL,
and I just I remember doing it and Sal's talking.
I don't know if I'm even listening, and I'm going,

(29:09):
I shouldn't be doing this. I'm not any good at this.
I don't want to do this anymore. And it was
just weird. Then Sal goes back to you, Dan, I go,
thank you so, and then just went about my business.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
There.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Did I tell you that sound that I threw it
out to you? And I decided nothing to do with
your reporting. But I in that moment as you're talking,
I was like, I'm done with doing Sports Center?

Speaker 3 (29:34):
What am I doing? I'm an old man here.

Speaker 11 (29:37):
You know.

Speaker 15 (29:37):
I get that all the time at home doing Sports
Center and nobody's.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Listening, thank you.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
So yeah, that was just one of those real moments
live TV and I'm going, I am the old guy here.
Everybody else is gone or they're doing specialized shows, and.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
What am I doing. I'm fifty years of a and
I'm doing Sports Center. Yes, Tom, that's an extremely honest thing.
He just shared.

Speaker 14 (30:03):
A lot of people fake it or would never admit
that they were had their mind elsewhere in the middle
of a national broadcast.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
So that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Oh yeah, yeah. There are times when you daydream. That's
why I've asked golfers before, like, you're in a big moment,
do you ever daydream?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Do you ever?

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Like?

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Why is this thought in my head?

Speaker 11 (30:19):
You know?

Speaker 2 (30:20):
You have the famous Joe Montana in the Super Bowl
against the Bengals where he's trying to calm his team
down and he goes, oh, and he's telling his offensive lineman,
is that John Candy over there in the uh in
the stadium and you know, just random things. But yeah,
that that did come to mind. I throw it and
south peal Antonio joins us, I throw it out. I go, God,

(30:44):
I am what am I doing?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
What am I doing? Thank you?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
So coming up cors light six pack of questions or
whatever we would do back then? Yeah, yeah, of course,
you know it'd be uh due Johnny good times. Johnny
Clayton would join us, or the Salisbury against John Clayton.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
That was the duo right there. They went out of
each other.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Dustin in Ohio, Hi, Dustin, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Hey, Dustin Boltay, Yeah, okay.

Speaker 12 (31:19):
Dustin in Alabama. But that's all right, roll ti Hey.
Two quick comments and then a question regarding my Saints.
One the comment I really love yesterday's interviews and all
in the possibility of moving the Bowl games at the
beginning of the season. You know, you kind of already
got Labor Day weekend built in there where you could
stretch out, say twenty thirty big games over four or

(31:41):
five days, put them in cities that probably are normally
too cold to have Bowl games anyways, So I love
that idea to.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
The game last night.

Speaker 12 (31:53):
You know, the strip is already written for a coach
named Nick in overtime to win with Devonte Smith on
the field, and the answer to win that game is
your bench. Jalen, you put into a how was at that?

Speaker 11 (32:04):
Now?

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Thank you? Thank you? Dustin, Dustin not from Ohio, Dustin
from Alabama. We'll take a break.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
The Philip Rivers question that I surprise Soupal who is
a voter for the Hall of Fame. If you come
back to play, do then we have to reset the
clock for you to be eligible for the Pro Football
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
That'll keep you in your seat. We're back after this.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
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Speaker 2 (32:39):
The Philip Rivers Hall of Fame status. If he comes back,
does he do they reset the clock if he plays
in a game suits up for a game with the Colts.

Speaker 8 (32:49):
There's some nuance to it. So Rivers is a semifinalist
for the Class of twenty twenty six, the upcoming class. Oh,
he's just months away from either being in or waiting
another year.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (33:01):
According to the Hall of Fame. If Rivers assigned to
the active roster, his Hall of Fame eligibility resets. It
would need to be out another five years before he's
looked at. If he assigned to the practice squad, it
doesn't affect his Hall of Fame status. So active roster,
whether he takes a snap or not, resets his status.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Can he get what if he plays in the game
this weekend.

Speaker 8 (33:24):
He's reset new clock five years. He would now be
up for the Class of twenty thirty one.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
I think, But he's a semi finalist this year.

Speaker 8 (33:32):
Yes, but it hasn't been decided yet. It's like if
he joins the active roster for the Colts or another team,
he takes his name off the twenty twenty six Hall
of Fame ballot.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yes, time, that seems terribly unfair.

Speaker 7 (33:45):
I don't like that.

Speaker 14 (33:46):
You'd get more and more forgotten over time, and then
there's new writers that are voting on the I don't.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Hey, he could be adding to his resume. Well, he
could be taken away from it like Russell Wilson has.

Speaker 8 (33:54):
Yes, Paul, this is absolutely a great thing for Phil
Rivers because let's say he goes to the Hall of
Fame in twenty thirty one, all his kids will be
grown up and they could be there, and about six
or seven more grand kids can attend.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
But is he playing his way out? We just I
don't know.

Speaker 8 (34:07):
His last year with the Colts, he was eleven and
five as a starter and he had like twenty seven touchdowns.
He was not limping to the finish. I mean he
was technic figuratively.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Uh, who is more? Hall of Fame ply has two candidates.

Speaker 8 (34:21):
Yeah, we haven't played this in a while. Based off
these stats, who should go in the Hall of Fame?
First quarterback one one's seventeen and one seventeen as a starter,
two super Bowl wins, eight total playoff wins, six total
playoff appearances, three hundred and sixty six touchdowns, two hundred
and forty four picks, fifty seven thousand career yards.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
So Eli Manning correct.

Speaker 8 (34:43):
Quarterback two one sixty five and eighty one in the
regular season, two super Bowl wins, thirteen playoff wins, twelve
playoff appearances, four and in eighteen yards I'm sorry touchdowns,
two hundred and eleven picks, sixty four thousand yards. Would
you agree that quarterback two is way way way more

(35:05):
Hall of faming based off the stats. Yeah, that's Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah,
it doesn't feel like he's as automatic as Elias and
well conversation.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
It feels like we're talking about Eli because we're not sure.
I don't I haven't heard anybody say, you know, I
don't know if Ben's a Hall of Famer. With Eli,
it feels like I don't know if he's a Hall
of Famer. Feels like Ben is a yeah, hall of Famer. Yeah, Eli,
It's like, I don't know, so Ben's assumed. Yeah, I
would put him in over Eli in a second.

Speaker 8 (35:38):
He might be underrated because his Super bowls happened so
early in his career.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, well he didn't get credit for the first one
as much, and Jerome Bettis talked about that on the show.
You know, Ben, they kind of won maybe in spite
of him, Yes, Seon.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
That's the problem with getting them early is that then
you never get back there. That's becomes a storyline. Well,
they got them early. He never got back there though,
or know, never got another one.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, those are big numbers though, you know, the four
hundred touchdowns only two one hundred and eleven picks two
super Bowl victories, twelve playoff wins. You know those are
big numbers. But I haven't heard anybody go. I don't
know if Ben is.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
We have.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
We've spent time, We've spent shows on Eli Manning. Is
he a Hall of Famer?

Speaker 3 (36:25):
And I don't think he is.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
But I think the two super Bowl wins against the
Patriots puts you win because you're an average quarterback. He
had two magical years. Now, he's durable, he played all
the time, he played in New York. You're famous family,
I understand all of that. But you know you're you're
going to put him in based off two seasons because

(36:51):
that's what the bottom line. You won two super Bowls
and he did, and he played really well in those
Super Bowls, really well, big time, and you beat Brady
and you beat Belichick.

Speaker 14 (37:00):
Yes, Mark, you mean two postseasons because they barely got
into play those two years.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Right, that's it. I think those were the only postseasons
that he was in.

Speaker 8 (37:09):
Now, Eli made six playoff appearances. He only won games.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
That in the two years. Yes, Okay, let's see, uh
goebes in Plymouth. I don't know if I pronounced that right,
You got it?

Speaker 9 (37:26):
Perfect.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Okay, what's on your mind?

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Hey?

Speaker 17 (37:30):
I was listening to your interview with Pete bakubat Notre
Dame yesterday and he said that they signed a letter
of memorandum understanding that if Notre Dame is ranked twelfth
or higher next year, that they automatically get in.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (37:44):
Well, last year Alabama was controversially left out of the playoffs,
and I was wondering if Alabama had the same kind
of agreement.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
You know what, I'm going to get some of my
best people on that. I think that's a fair question
to ask because Notre Dame, for some reason, are they
the only ones who got this? If you're in the
top twelve, you're in the postseason. I'm shocked that the
College Football Playoff Committee would agree to that. I got
maybe somebody can explain that to me. We're like Jara,

(38:17):
we'll sign that, you will?

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:24):
What else do we have here? Steven Wyoming? Hi, Steve,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (38:29):
Dan?

Speaker 3 (38:29):
How are you go?

Speaker 11 (38:31):
What are the touchback on what Paul talked about baboheads
last hour? I can give you a little information as
a guy who is a collector for many decades, So
they go back to babbleheads select the seventeen sixties when
the Chinese were making them and they were imported into Europe,

(38:51):
and then fast forward to the early sixties they started
baseball starting and making them out.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Of paper mache.

Speaker 11 (39:00):
They had originally four player players, and there's only four
that were really the original ones. It was Maris mantel
May's and Clemente, and then later they had variations of
white base and gold base, and depending on the variations,
they could be worth many hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars.

(39:23):
In fact, they even had dark face dolls they're called dolls,
and those were much more rare, were not collected as well,
and if you were fortunate enough to find one in
a box somewhere, those could be worth thousands of dollars.
Then they rolled out the miniatures which had a magnet

(39:44):
on the bottom, and those were what we used to
put on our dashboards back in the seventies.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
If you recall that, what is the most valuable modern
day bobble.

Speaker 11 (39:56):
Head, The most valuable would the Clemente.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Back in that era. Modern day I don't know.

Speaker 11 (40:07):
I never collected. I don't really collect her. Modern day bobbleheads.
It became so prolific. But I got one other quick
question for you, Dan, do you recall this back Game
one two thousand and two. You and I met outside
at a beer kiosk at Anaheim Stadium and I bought
your beer, and I was wondering, what you think the

(40:28):
chances are of you and I getting together for a
beer the Angels World Series before our days on this
planet are done.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Well, we might get together for a beer. It won't
be for an Angel's World Series. But Paullie, remember I
told you about Steve.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
He's at the kiosk.

Speaker 8 (40:43):
He said he's a great guy.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, I met Steve. I was at the World Series
and he got me a beer. Yeah, and uh yeah,
of course I'll never forget that.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Thank you, Steve. A History of the Bobbleheads. Bob Head.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Albert Breer gonna join us talk about Philip Rivers coming
back Monday Morning Quarterback, and Reggie Ala wishes Miller Junior
the Third. We'll stop by as well. Two hours in
the books, only one more to go on this Tuesday.
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