December 11, 2025 • 34 mins
Michigan Football beat writer Tony Garcia breaks down a wild week for Michigan and explains what the next steps could be following Sherrone Moore’s dismissal. College football insider Dan Wentzel weighs in on where Michigan's head coaching search could lead and blasts the idea of a 24-team College Football Playoff. 5x Pro Bowl TE Rob Gronkowski jokes about fans begging to be hit and shares why he's more of a social drinker nowadays.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Tony Garcia, covering Michigan football for the Detroit Free Press,
find enough to join us on a busy day. I
know you're at the courthouse there, Tony. What is Sharon
Moore being held on? What are the charges? Yeah, Good morning, Dan.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
As of now, there are no official charges to this
point that have been made publicly. So Shron Moore was
investigated for this assault investigation that is going on. Things
moved pretty quickly yesterday. So Drummore was fired for a
cause on Wednesday after an investigation found credible evidence he
had an inappropriate relationship with a staffer. I'm told there
(00:43):
had been an internal investigation dating back a couple months,
and then recently in the last couple of weeks, they
brought in an outside firm which corroborated things and moved
over to the athletic department. Separately from that, multiple law
enforcement agencies responded to a call for miss or More
just outside inn Arbor around four pm yesterday, less than
(01:05):
one hour before the firing was announced. The investigation currently
is into an alleged assault and mister Moore has been
detained by the Pittsfield Township police and he was transported
to the Washingtaw County Jail overnight where he was held.
That's where we are right now in the fourteen A
District Court here in Washingtaut County.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
How was he informed that he was fired?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Those details are not quite public. I've been told that
yesterday there was a team meeting. The athletic director came
in to the team facilities and informed the staff and
the players, but mister Moore was not there at that time.
So I sometime in the previous in the past forty
(01:50):
eight hours, is he is when he was told specifically,
but it's not clear where he was at all.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Time, and this has been swirling. I had gotten word
at the end of October. Now I don't know if
that lines up with anybody's timeline, But once again, I
didn't know, you know, if there was any fire to it.
There was certainly smoke, and I didn't know if it
was a smear campaign or just somebody putting something out
on social media. But I did get a heads up
from a source, but then it kind of went away.
(02:20):
When did it resurface where you knew that this was
something that was credible?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, really in October, like you just said, Dan, that
is when the week of the Michigan State game was
the final week of October. That is when the university
started investigating this, and there had been word and other
reporters had heard as well that there was not quite
the findings to move forward with this. And then something
changed in the last couple of weeks where a smoking
(02:50):
gun of sorts was found that much to me is
not yet clear whom it was, but things evolved pretty
rapidly in the last ten or so days.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
These recruits signees given any heads up that their coach
his job is in jeopardy.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
It doesn't sound like it from what from what I've heard,
but I've also been told that this investigation and the
findings of this investigation was not held intentionally post signing day,
because remember this in this day and age, in this
transfer portal era, once a head coach leaves, everybody is
free to enter the transfer portal market as they see fit.
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So this would have they could be on the on
the move anyway, and they have, they have free reign.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
To do so immediately, and fifteen day window here for
these new signees and those players who are currently on
the roster, that's right, which will almost.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Overlap into when the portal opens again and in January. Right, so,
people players in the Michigan program most of the next
six weeks or plus, they're gonna they're gonna be eligible
for transfer, and so we'll see. I mean, there's a
lot of damage control going on in and around behind
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the scenes right now.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Talking to Tony Garcia joining us from the courthouse. He
covers Michigan football and basketball for the Detroit Free Press.
Will Charon Moore appear in court this morning? That's our expectation.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
We are here in the in the lobby at the
fourteen A District Court. We've been a colleague and I
have been walking around to different court rooms trying to
find it. But it seems as though there's some TV
monitors over to my lacked here. They may just arraign
him via zoom and display it on TV in court.
So I'm not sure if we're going to get to
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be in person for anything.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
The coaching search is underway. I'm sure give me a
short list here of you know, the true potential candidates.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, well, there's a couple that really come to the
top of mind for me. One of them is Jedfish
at Washington, he has had ties to the Big Ten,
to Michigan specifically, where he was a quarterbacks coach, wide
receivers coach, passing game coordinator under Jim Harbaugh in twenty
fifteen sixteen, and he's led a couple of nice successful
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programs in the past five years. He turned to Arizona
around he took over after they went h to five
in the COVID nineteen short and twenty twenty season. He
won just one game that first year, but by year
three he was ten and three. He beat Oklahoma in
a bowl game, and so he seems to know how
I mean. And that's a lot fewer resources than here
in Ann Arbor. And then recently the past two years
at Washington. Nothing to truly write home about six and
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seven two years ago and then eight and four this
past season, but Camin DeVore had left right for Alabama
and that roster was completely gutted. So I don't think
anybody thought he was going to make a bowl game
that first year. And he's done a great job this
year as well, just even winning eight games with another roster.
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I think over under before the season was six and
a half so he's exceeded expectations again. And then I
just mentioned the other name came to the bar. Sounds
like things are. I mean, there's been a lot going
on in Alabama and in Tuscal loose, and we know
the fan base is not exactly happy with the job.
He's done nine to four in his first season, missing
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the College Football Playoff, just making it in there this season.
I wonder if he doesn't wait for someone in Tuscal
lucid to make a call in one year if he
doesn't win a national championship and he sees a program
that has all the resources, all the money, the infrastructure
that you could want as a winner. Obviously just won
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a national championship two seasons ago. Those would be my
top two names on the list right now.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, but does in Alabama have all those things that
you're telling me Michigan has. Oh, certainly they do.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I mean, I mean it's a long shot, right and
I don't I don't think.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
But he has ties to this area as well.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
So at Eastern Michigan he was an offensive coordinator from
twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen, which is shut just up
the road in Ipsilani.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And then he got his start, or really, I'd.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Say he made a name for himself in the Big
Ten with Indiana with Michael at Indiana with Michael Pennix
before he then took him to Washington and led them
to a national championship loss, ironically to Michigan.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
All right, let me let me throw out a name
that probably would not be popular, but he's free right
now and he's got experience, and that would be Brian Kelly.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I knew where you were going to go with that,
and I tweeted out yesterday and maybe this is a
chance for cold takes exposed or something.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
It's not going to be.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
It's not going to be Brian Kelly. There are there
is bread, There is brass that is not that are
not Brian Kelly fans.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And now I will leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Great stuff. Good luck today, Thank you, Dan, I appreciate
having me on. It's Tony Garcia covers Michigan football for
the Detroit Press at the Courthouse There.
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Speaker 2 (08:42):
Dan Wetzel, he covers college football for The Mothership College
Game Day podcast, New York Times best selling author. When
did the investigation begin at Michigan? From what you've been told, so.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Michigan, I got a a tip earlier in the fall
about this situation. I think there was an investigation then
that did not come up with any of the proof
that they needed. More information came to light recently, leading
to I think a big revelation on Wednesday, which led
(09:20):
to what they called credible evidence, which led to the
Sharyl Moore's immediate firing.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
What do you think it was a process.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
What do you think changed here in the last forty
eight hours.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
I think they got proof that the you know, look,
he was he had an appropriate relationship with a staff member.
I mean, it's you cannot have the boss. I mean,
it's his university policy, it's his contract, that's pretty much
any company in the country. So once they were able
to have what they called credible evidence or proof that
(09:55):
that occurred, that there was no I don't think there
was any hesitation at that point. I mean, this isn't
great timing for Michigan, you know, I'm sure. I mean,
if they wish, they probably wish they could have known
three weeks ago put him in a different spot as
they try to make it higher. So but I think
they just got that, they got that final information or
(10:15):
the proof, and that was it. What questions do you
have today, Well, there's a lot. We're waiting for the
official details on exactly not so much what got him fired.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I think we can all figure that one out, but
what happened after.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
And you know, look, he was the Pittsfield Township Police,
which is just outside of ann Arvus. So they were
called to this residence at four ten pm. We broke
the story maybe about four thirty five that he had
been fired. And at four I think forty six, the
university put out a statement saying he had been fired,
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so fairly recently after he was fired, he went almost
immediately to this house. What happened between him being informed.
I don't know the exact time when he was informed,
but I think the team meeting was going on while
he was there.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
So what happened there? What happened at this residence that led.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
To an assault investigation for an alleged assault.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Where was he in that timeframe and and those details?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I think because he's now obviously sitting in U in
custody waiting to see whether the Washtonawn County prosecutor will
charge him.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Now you got it, the coaching search is on. And
as you said, if they knew three weeks ago, Matt
Campbell's now in play for them, and a couple other
opportunities as well. So they got to expedite everything and
they got to keep everybody on board. You got recruits
you just signed up that you know it brought, you know,
their quarterback Rice Underwood. Now LSU may go, hey, do
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you want to now come to LSU. I mean, it
feels it's like everything's on the table. But if you
were doing a short list here, who would you go
after if you're Michigan.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Well, I think that the short list this is the problem.
And I look at I think Dan, I've been on
the show a long time with you. I think you know,
I'm pretty skeptical of timing and all the things. I
don't see how this there's a lot of skeptics of
why why did this happen today? For Michigan, I'm like,
I don't see how this was beneficial to them. Obviously
they would have had a different set of candidates. A
number of candidates were hired, a number of others signed
(12:31):
extensive deals to stay that potentially take them off likely
take them off the market. Now, maybe they were willing
to sign extension because they weren't really a candidate at
Penn State, or they didn't want the Penn State job
or the Florida job. But Michigan is a little bit different.
But a guy like Matt Campbell, he's available a couple
weeks ago and he isn't now. I would say that
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the candidates are going to be Alabama's Kitlin de boor
whether they can get him to leave. He has a
very good situation in Alabama. People close to that situation,
talk about you know, his recruiting class, not a lot
of trip kids hitting the portal, momentum of the program.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
All that.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
The downside you following Nick Saban, if you don't win
national titles, fans go what's up? You go ten and
two and make the playoffs every year. At Michigan, they're
pretty happy. So he's going to be a candidate, whether
he's interested or not. I think, you know Jed Fish
up at Washington, Eli Drinkwitz at Missouri, and a bunch
of other hosts of other candidates, and maybe some of
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these guys that again they signed a deal to stay.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Maybe Michigan changed their mind.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Jesse Mintor, the defensive coordinator for the Chargers, who obviously
is working under Harrorball, had been at the University of Michigan.
It would be a popular choice there. Michigan's an interesting
job though. You could get all sorts of different NFL
interests that maybe wouldn't go for another position in the thing.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
It's a nice mix that school.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I mean, it's chaotic, they're constantly a scandal, but it's
a nice mix of like, we can win, we have
the resources, we have the money, the alums, the stadium,
the brand, all of that bought. And I hate to
say it's not chaotic, because it's always chaotic in Michigan.
But like the Governor of Michigan is not going to
be involved in the search, the fans aren't expecting national
(14:18):
type five national titles in the next seven years. So
there's some and ann Arbor is a good place to live.
And the Detroit airports right there are big airports. Some
of the things that maybe an NFL coach is going.
I don't want to go to a college town out
in the middle of nowhere. There's there's a lot. Michigan
has a lot of appeal that maybe a couple other
jobs wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
He's Dan Wetzel, The Mothership host College Game Day podcast
New York Times best selling author. What do you think
is the endgame for Notre Dame? After Pete Bavakua came
on and talked about the permanent damage done by the
acc to Notre Dame, I think Notre.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Dame will calm down and there's nothing will come of it.
I'm this this three day pre tour. You started it all, Dan,
you started It's you really your fault. I think I
don't know what. I don't know what this was, but
I think there was a lot of people in Notre
Dame very upset. And if you see the ad coming
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out doing all that, you don't see Marcus Freeman, you
don't see the president's school or anything like that. You
see him taking this, and I don't know. I mean,
it's not permanent damage is not There's no permanent damage
in college athletics. I mean you could be dead enemies
today and best friends tomorrow. It doesn't matter. My thing
with Notre Dame. I thought Notre Dame was capable winning
(15:39):
national title. The playoff would be a heck of a
lot better with them in it. It's really disappointing, and
I get how the players are disappointed.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
This entire.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
You know, argument about how the playoff worked would have
been solved if the ACC had a different tiebreaker for
the fifth distermination of a five way tie break, if
they just did rankings instead of whatever, whatever the heck
they had. Yeah, we would have had an ACC championship
game of Miami versus Virginia. Miami either wins gets the
(16:11):
automatic bid, Notre Dame is in, or Virginia wins. Then
you say sorry, Miami, got three losses at this point
and Notre Dame is in and we only have one
group of five, like people want to blow the whole
thing up. It's a tie breaker at the fifth level.
Like it just it wasn't good and and acc should
have seen it, come in and changed it. But when
you go there's two there's two ways to get in
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the playoffs, right, you win your champoutferend championship or you
get in this at large back alley knife fight where
anything can happen. People get left out for this criteria
that you don't know what's coming. Notre Dame sees their
independence is great value. It's more valuable than being in
a conference. So they are going to be in this
mix every single time. And last year it worked out
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for him. It didn't for Alabama and Miami. This year
worked out for Alabama Miami, not for Notre Dame. You
don't know, but for if Notre Dame didn't alert their
players and their coaches, if the administration wasn't sitting there
going in on Sunday saying, guys, this is a coin flip.
We had no idea, and you just walking in saying
don't worry, everything's good, we're in. You have not paid
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any attention to the way this works the last fifty
fourteen years. You are paid a lot of money to
not be blindsided. And they said, well, we're blindsided, and
that's what's bothering us. We don't like Nobody likes the process.
You cannot be blindsided this job. So I think there
was a real dereliction of letting the players know because
I think they would be less disappointed they walked in saying, hey.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
You know, this stinks.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
It stinks.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
We could have won it, but it wasn't. The rug
pulled out. There is no rug in the at large
selection process.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I'm telling my friends who were Notre Dame grads, they'd
be like, what do you think I go. It's up
in the air, you know, prior to it. So if
I felt that Pete Bavaqua and Marcus Freeman should have
felt that as well. Before I let you go, had
a source who told me that the Big Ten is
pushing for twenty four playoff teams. They wont to gain
four automatic qualifiers. At least we're gonna go from twelve
(18:15):
to sixteen. It feels like I don't think we're ready
to go from twelve to twenty four. But your thoughts, Yeah,
the twenty four is a horrible plan.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
I mean, it's just it's terrible because it's not even
twenty four because what the Big ten wants to do
is they take their four bids and they want to
play three games on the conference championship weekend with their
one and two would still play so last year, listen,
if it was this year, Indiana House, they still play
for conference title, and then three would play six, and
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so I don't know what they'd be, but like Iowa
is like six maybe, and then Michigan is five and
four would play five. So you can call it a
twenty fourteen playoff. But once you start having play in rounds,
that's the playoff also, so it quickly becomes like a
thirty two team playoff if you extracted out all the
big This is a terrible idea. It's just a terrible idea.
(19:10):
The north star of college football needs to be to
balance maintaining the importance of the regular season, which is
the best in sports, with an inclusive and big, exciting playoff.
And I'll give you example why this twelve is working.
First weekend of the year, no to Dame lost to Miami.
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It cost them, And there was another one that first
weekend the year. I can't remember now that one's cost him. Right,
So when you go into next year, you know, watching
on the first week Labor Day weekend and there's a
big matchup between two top ten teams losing matters, you
just can't sit there and be like, oh, we got
five losses. We came in sixth and the big ten.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
We're good.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
We still got a chance. Nobody thinks Michigan should have
another chance. They weren't that good. They only had three losses.
So that plan is I don't even know if the
people who come up with those plans even like college football.
I get what they're trying to make money, but like,
it has got to be something for the fans of
this sport where you maintain something before we don't just
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go from four to what's really thirty two teams. If
you extract that plan out, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, but that makes me nervous when you said it's
a terrible idea. That that's when they go, hey, you
know what, everybody, come into the deep end of the poll.
We'll figure it out late. That's always they go let's
do this and then we'll figure it out after the fact.
That's why we get into these situations with the college football,
Not to mention college basketball was going to expand as well,
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they're gonna go.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
He's asking for that? Who was asking for that?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
You know, always asking coaches and athletic directors who have
bonuses in their contract that they.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Get in the play.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Nobody is asking for that, and you it's yeah, it's
they may be decisions on a whim to try to
solve the last problem that the big decision created.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
So now they're like, well, the problem is our league
is too big. Well, listen, Big ten.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Who the heck told you to go blow up the
PAC twelve. That's a you problem, not our problem. You
destroyed that league. You destroyed the old Big East. You
altered like the Big Ten reached havoc on college athletics
with their bad ideas, followed by the next it's like
my golf game, Dan, a fix on a fix on
a fix, you know, you slice and now I'm you know,
(21:33):
so this is this is a terrible plan. I think
they will go to sixteen. I think sixteen works if
they eliminate the conference Championship weekend.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Speed this thing up.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Everybody gets in more home games too, please? Can the
fans like attend a game at their own stadium not
be told only the rich people that can fly to
Glendale for this weekend and New Orleans the next weekend.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
They're the only fans to get to ten games.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Well that's another story though for another day. In the
future of these Bowl games, I mean, I maintained, why
don't we start the year with these Bowl games so
you can have matchups that maybe you wouldn't have, And
maybe the pool and weed eater bull survibes, and maybe
the pop Tard bull survives, but you get some good
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matchups at the beginning of the year. If you're going
to expand sixteen teams.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
What was the last Bowl game that closed in I
think it was the Blue Bonnet. The ASST business, they
don't go out of business.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I've been hearing for twenty years that the Bowl industry
is dead. They keep making more bulls.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
You know why, people like to watch football and they
like to gamble on football, and it doesn't They will
play two six and six teams will play it like
the New Mexico Bowl, and three million people will watch.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Isn't there a five wins team?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Did five and seven? We don't care.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
But you can watch a game between like the seventh
place ACC team against the sixth place Big ten team
played in Fenway Park, you know, baseball stadium named after uh,
you know, Wasabi uh.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Computer security and like, I'm all in, I gotta watch
this game. Hunt.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
These games don't go out of business. They never go
out of business. You and I will buy any game
that wants to go out of business. These are cash hows.
These guys are crying poverty. Sorry, your game doesn't matter
as much you. There's like forty of them now, how
many were there twenty years ago when the sports thing
was dying?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
The money the people you work for. Now, that's the
reason why we got forty Bowl games because they need programming.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
And as we should, we're just serving the public.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Dan He is an ESPN senior writer. I hope I
didn't you know? Upset you today?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Walk about you do?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I don't know. You just seem like you're fired up.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I'm just I'm naturally passionate. It's a good all right,
It's been a while. Jeez, get me on Bowl games.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I'm not upset.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
We love it.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Listen. I think the pop tar bull is we need
to protect the sanctity of the po too, We really do.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
So that'll be your legacy. That's your legacy.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Be it.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, I will die.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
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Speaker 2 (24:29):
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Speaker 7 (24:49):
Where are you, Yes, I'm in val Colorado right now?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Okay, all right, ye.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Ah. This is my French bulldog right here. So I've
been on a media tour right now.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
You're my last stop, Dan, and he's been just like
sleeping on the ground for the last hour and now he's.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Like, get me up on your lap.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
What's his name?
Speaker 7 (25:09):
His name's Ralphie, Ralphie. Yes, he's a good boy.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
If you could have named your dog after a teammate, oh.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
I would say Chan Chandler Jones, Chan straight up Chan.
That's pretty good. Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Do you get people who want you to hit them?
Like Rando? People come up to you actually all the time.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
That's a great question.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
A lot of people sometimes come up to me and
like put their hand down on the ground, and I'm like,
what's going on right now?
Speaker 7 (25:45):
I'm like, hey, buddy, you don't want that to happen.
Trust me.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Like I used to go verse two hundred and eighty
pounds defensive ends on a daily basis, Like I got
that ground force. I know how to move force from
one side to the other side. Sometimes also people are like, yo,
let's arm wrestle. I just don't get into that industry.
I mean I fake it, like, oh right, I'll take
a picture of us fake arm wrestling. But I just
don't know what I'm dealing with at that moment, so
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I never actually take the offer when someone tells me
to hate home or tackle hom or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
What hurts on you now from your playing career, you know,
that's a great question.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
If I don't take care of myself, if I go out.
You know, I don't get much sleep. You know, my
knee aches a little bit, my back will go out
on me, and my ankle starts, you know, flaring up.
You know, I've got a lot of injuries. But if
I truly take care of myself, you know, I do
all the right things. I get massages, I do all
the pre have workouts. You know, I can even work
out hard if I get the proper sleep. Literally usually
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nothing hurts them.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
And that's great.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
That's what I'm That's what I dedicate myself is taking
care of myself because of that reason, because if I don't,
then things start going out on me because of the
career that I had. But I really like to take
care of myself and do the prehab stuff and do
the workouts that you know, keep my body going and
keep my body strong.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Philip Rivers is what eight years older than you?
Speaker 7 (27:04):
What are you?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Thirty six?
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Yes, I'm thirty six and he's forty four. Yes.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
To be away for five years at that position, what's
the first thing that maybe comes back to him or
is never coming back?
Speaker 7 (27:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
I mean, if I was a betting man and I
had to truly put a bet on it, I would
go against Philip Rivers. And it's not because I don't
like Philip Rivers. A guy was an unbelievable quarterback. He's
probably a Hall of Fame quarterback, you know, in the future.
I mean, what he did as for his career was remarkable.
It would be any quarterbacks dream to have what he
he had and how many you know, touchdowns and pass
he's thrown for. But if I'm a betting man, like
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I said, I would go against him, I would say
that it's not going to happen what, you know, in
the way that they think it could possibly happen, you know,
with the Colts and whatever he's thinking. I mean, he's
forty four years old, he's been out of the game
for four or five years. If anyone could possibly do
if any position can do this, it's definitely the quarterback
position only that could you know, possibly pull this off.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
But I just don't see that arm.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Strength being up to par where it needs to be,
and I don't see the consistency of that arm being
where it needs to be as well. Can he take
a hit if he goes in the game, I don't know.
I don't think so. I mean, it's kind of absurd.
But if I got to bet against it, if I
got a bet for it, I would go against it.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, it just seems crazy that they're in that position
where you're going to bring back a forty four year old.
I mean, he's in a high school coach, he's a grandfather.
Aren't there any other quarterbacks in America, Gronk that you
could bring in to help out this team?
Speaker 6 (28:43):
That's what I was wandering, I mean, try to grab No,
you can't grab anyone off a practice squad. The trade
deadline's over, But there has to be someone else else
out there on the streets like that played last year.
What about digging into that XFL or whatever the XFL
slash United Football League that combined you know, the last year.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
That's a pretty solid league.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I mean, there has to be a quarterback from there,
even grabbing a quarterback from the Canadian Football League, Like,
there has to be someone that's played out there that
can go in and handle an offense at least to
power the you know, the go out there and produce
just how they need them to produce. But like in
this situation, I mean, it's it's wild to me that
this is going on and I'm hoping for the best.
(29:26):
But why I'm saying it's going to be so hard
for Philip Rivers is because of the last you know,
four years, five years.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
You got to be up to speed with this game.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
You know, you got to be up to speed with defenses,
how fast they are, how strong these guys are, and
you got to be up to speed with your arm
as well.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
So what was he doing over the last four or
five years?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
You know?
Speaker 7 (29:47):
And also he has fourteen kids approximately.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
He's a husband. How does he even have time to
throw sixty passes a day? Because once you do retire,
you usually check out and just take care of your family.
So it's all the depends on what he was doing
Dan over the last four years.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
For the record, I don't think he has fourteen kids,
but he does have I.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
Think he does have a lot. It's not fourteen, but
it's out there.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, I don't know if he's double digits, but but
but I.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Think he is.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
I mean there's some players out there that are.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
But well, apparently we know what he's been doing in
the last five years, then he's got double digit kids there, Gronk.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Yes, we sure do, Okay, at least we know he's
in shape.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
We're talking Rob Gronkowski, the four time Super Bowl champ,
and it's Bucked Up leading sports nutrition and lifestyle brand
and the title sponsor for the LA Bowl presented hosted
by Gronk. That'll be Saturday, December thirteenth. What is your
role there as the master of ceremony.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Yes, the master of ceremony kind of because I do
go to the fan festival, you know, two hours prior
to the game, get out the fans, hyped out up,
do a couple activities, do a couple of games. But
this is my third year hosting the game. The first year,
I sung the national anthem, I raised the Boise State
Broncos dog at halftime.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
And I'm only one of the few to ever beat
the dog.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
As well, I was just happy he went off course
and I just talked to I talked to the teams
as well, the two teams, congratulate them, welcome them to
the you know, Bucked Up LA Ball. It's gonna be
at Sofi Stadium. And what makes this game special this year?
The first year was great Boise State versus UCLA. Ucla
won the game. You know, Ashton genty was part of
the game Top five pick last year for the Las
(31:33):
Vegas Raiders. This year is going to be special because
it's only going to be the only football game going
on in the world when it's on TV Saturday night,
and it's directly after the Heisman Trophy presentation as well,
so it's going to be hot. And we got two
legit teams here. We got the Boise State Broncos. They
just won the Mountain West Conference this year and that's
a that's a pretty solid conference. So they got the
(31:54):
automatic bid to our bowl game. And then we got
the Washington Huskies. We got Jetfish as the head coach,
and he betrayed me at the University of Arizona, Dan Patrick.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
I'll let you know that I'm going to have to
have a word with him. He was there, he turned
the program around, and then he left us. He went
to the Washington Huskies.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
I mean, Washington Huskies ain't that much better than the
University of Arizona.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
And he turned us around and he did have a
pretty solid year this year. He was eight and four.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
They do have a good team, they have a good
running back and the three of their losses actually came
from Ohio State, Oregon, and Michigan, and they competed in.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
All three of those games.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
So this is going to be a very solid football game,
the Huskies versus the Broncos. I'm looking forward to it
Saturday night at SOFI Stadium, December thirteenth.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
It's going to be popping.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
You're in Veil, you know, you can have fun. People
you know like to party in Vail. Are those days done?
Are those days done?
Speaker 7 (32:51):
You know they're not. I like to have a good time.
I like to go out. I like the bust balls.
I like to have my friends around me.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
We you know, bust each other's chops. That's how we're partying. Yeah,
And I don't ever go overboard anymore. Definitely back in
the day, Dan, I was going overboard. You know, you
just get so hammered and stuff, and you can't do
that anymore. Just five days to recover. I'm a social drinker. Now,
I don't do it much, but I'm a social drinker.
I'm gonna setting. I like to have one or two
get you feeling good. But it's very dangerous up here
(33:17):
in this elevation. Actually I didn't like it. I had
an ipa beer eleven thousand feet up and it made
me feel.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Like complete garbage, but I did have it. I did
then come down.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
I had a tequila shot at the top off the day,
and let me tell you, the tequila shot got me
rolling then. So no beers, no ipa beers up in
this elevation. For some reason, the elevation and the beers
don't go together.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
That's a great tip. Like do you ski?
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yes, I'm a skier, Okay, Yes, I love skiing. I
ski growing up in Buffalo. Those are small mountains there,
but now this is the big Dog mountains and people
are amazed.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
They don't know it's me, because that's what's so great
about skiing is that I just go out there. I'm
a free man up there. But so many people have
been coming up to me. Yo, you're a huge like
how you skiing?
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Like? Your skis are huge. They look like boats. They
look like two snow forwards on each leg. And that's
the experience I've been having. But it's funny because I
changed my voice too when I talk to people, because
I just like being free up here and don't want
anyone that knows it's me just cruising around.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
What's the fake voice?
Speaker 7 (34:21):
Yeah, I don't know. I just come up with on
a spot like Yo, what what up? Like, Yeah, I'm tall,
Like it's just soft. Sorry I'm tall, Like yeah, I
get it all the time.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Uh Well, good luck with uh bucked Up, the leading
sports nutrition and lifestyle brand and the title sponsor of
the La Bull hosted by Gronk. That'll be Saturday night,
after the Heisman Trophy ceremony at so Far. Great to
catch up with you at Gronk. Thank you, Bud, hey.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
Dan, thanks for always having me on your show man.
It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Rob Gronkowski
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Tony Garcia, covering Michigan football for the Detroit Free Press,
find enough to join us on a busy day. I
know you're at the courthouse there, Tony. What is Sharon
Moore being held on? What are the charges? Yeah, Good morning, Dan.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
As of now, there are no official charges to this
point that have been made publicly. So Shron Moore was
investigated for this assault investigation that is going on. Things
moved pretty quickly yesterday. So Drummore was fired for a
cause on Wednesday after an investigation found credible evidence he
had an inappropriate relationship with a staffer. I'm told there
(00:43):
had been an internal investigation dating back a couple months,
and then recently in the last couple of weeks, they
brought in an outside firm which corroborated things and moved
over to the athletic department. Separately from that, multiple law
enforcement agencies responded to a call for miss or More
just outside inn Arbor around four pm yesterday, less than
(01:05):
one hour before the firing was announced. The investigation currently
is into an alleged assault and mister Moore has been
detained by the Pittsfield Township police and he was transported
to the Washingtaw County Jail overnight where he was held.
That's where we are right now in the fourteen A
District Court here in Washingtaut County.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
How was he informed that he was fired?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Those details are not quite public. I've been told that
yesterday there was a team meeting. The athletic director came
in to the team facilities and informed the staff and
the players, but mister Moore was not there at that time.
So I sometime in the previous in the past forty
(01:50):
eight hours, is he is when he was told specifically,
but it's not clear where he was at all.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Time, and this has been swirling. I had gotten word
at the end of October. Now I don't know if
that lines up with anybody's timeline, But once again, I
didn't know, you know, if there was any fire to it.
There was certainly smoke, and I didn't know if it
was a smear campaign or just somebody putting something out
on social media. But I did get a heads up
from a source, but then it kind of went away.
(02:20):
When did it resurface where you knew that this was
something that was credible?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, really in October, like you just said, Dan, that
is when the week of the Michigan State game was
the final week of October. That is when the university
started investigating this, and there had been word and other
reporters had heard as well that there was not quite
the findings to move forward with this. And then something
changed in the last couple of weeks where a smoking
(02:50):
gun of sorts was found that much to me is
not yet clear whom it was, but things evolved pretty
rapidly in the last ten or so days.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
These recruits signees given any heads up that their coach
his job is in jeopardy.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
It doesn't sound like it from what from what I've heard,
but I've also been told that this investigation and the
findings of this investigation was not held intentionally post signing day,
because remember this in this day and age, in this
transfer portal era, once a head coach leaves, everybody is
free to enter the transfer portal market as they see fit.
(03:29):
So this would have they could be on the on
the move anyway, and they have, they have free reign.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
To do so immediately, and fifteen day window here for
these new signees and those players who are currently on
the roster, that's right, which will almost.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Overlap into when the portal opens again and in January. Right, so,
people players in the Michigan program most of the next
six weeks or plus, they're gonna they're gonna be eligible
for transfer, and so we'll see. I mean, there's a
lot of damage control going on in and around behind
(04:08):
the scenes right now.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Talking to Tony Garcia joining us from the courthouse. He
covers Michigan football and basketball for the Detroit Free Press.
Will Charon Moore appear in court this morning? That's our expectation.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
We are here in the in the lobby at the
fourteen A District Court. We've been a colleague and I
have been walking around to different court rooms trying to
find it. But it seems as though there's some TV
monitors over to my lacked here. They may just arraign
him via zoom and display it on TV in court.
So I'm not sure if we're going to get to
(04:41):
be in person for anything.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
The coaching search is underway. I'm sure give me a
short list here of you know, the true potential candidates.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, well, there's a couple that really come to the
top of mind for me. One of them is Jedfish
at Washington, he has had ties to the Big Ten,
to Michigan specifically, where he was a quarterbacks coach, wide
receivers coach, passing game coordinator under Jim Harbaugh in twenty
fifteen sixteen, and he's led a couple of nice successful
(05:17):
programs in the past five years. He turned to Arizona
around he took over after they went h to five
in the COVID nineteen short and twenty twenty season. He
won just one game that first year, but by year
three he was ten and three. He beat Oklahoma in
a bowl game, and so he seems to know how
I mean. And that's a lot fewer resources than here
in Ann Arbor. And then recently the past two years
at Washington. Nothing to truly write home about six and
(05:40):
seven two years ago and then eight and four this
past season, but Camin DeVore had left right for Alabama
and that roster was completely gutted. So I don't think
anybody thought he was going to make a bowl game
that first year. And he's done a great job this
year as well, just even winning eight games with another roster.
(06:02):
I think over under before the season was six and
a half so he's exceeded expectations again. And then I
just mentioned the other name came to the bar. Sounds
like things are. I mean, there's been a lot going
on in Alabama and in Tuscal loose, and we know
the fan base is not exactly happy with the job.
He's done nine to four in his first season, missing
(06:22):
the College Football Playoff, just making it in there this season.
I wonder if he doesn't wait for someone in Tuscal
lucid to make a call in one year if he
doesn't win a national championship and he sees a program
that has all the resources, all the money, the infrastructure
that you could want as a winner. Obviously just won
(06:43):
a national championship two seasons ago. Those would be my
top two names on the list right now.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, but does in Alabama have all those things that
you're telling me Michigan has. Oh, certainly they do.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I mean, I mean it's a long shot, right and
I don't I don't think.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
But he has ties to this area as well.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
So at Eastern Michigan he was an offensive coordinator from
twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen, which is shut just up
the road in Ipsilani.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And then he got his start, or really, I'd.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Say he made a name for himself in the Big
Ten with Indiana with Michael at Indiana with Michael Pennix
before he then took him to Washington and led them
to a national championship loss, ironically to Michigan.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
All right, let me let me throw out a name
that probably would not be popular, but he's free right
now and he's got experience, and that would be Brian Kelly.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I knew where you were going to go with that,
and I tweeted out yesterday and maybe this is a
chance for cold takes exposed or something.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
It's not going to be.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
It's not going to be Brian Kelly. There are there
is bread, There is brass that is not that are
not Brian Kelly fans.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And now I will leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Great stuff. Good luck today, Thank you, Dan, I appreciate
having me on. It's Tony Garcia covers Michigan football for
the Detroit Press at the Courthouse There.
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Speaker 2 (08:42):
Dan Wetzel, he covers college football for The Mothership College
Game Day podcast, New York Times best selling author. When
did the investigation begin at Michigan? From what you've been told, so.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Michigan, I got a a tip earlier in the fall
about this situation. I think there was an investigation then
that did not come up with any of the proof
that they needed. More information came to light recently, leading
to I think a big revelation on Wednesday, which led
(09:20):
to what they called credible evidence, which led to the
Sharyl Moore's immediate firing.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
What do you think it was a process.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
What do you think changed here in the last forty
eight hours.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
I think they got proof that the you know, look,
he was he had an appropriate relationship with a staff member.
I mean, it's you cannot have the boss. I mean,
it's his university policy, it's his contract, that's pretty much
any company in the country. So once they were able
to have what they called credible evidence or proof that
(09:55):
that occurred, that there was no I don't think there
was any hesitation at that point. I mean, this isn't
great timing for Michigan, you know, I'm sure. I mean,
if they wish, they probably wish they could have known
three weeks ago put him in a different spot as
they try to make it higher. So but I think
they just got that, they got that final information or
(10:15):
the proof, and that was it. What questions do you
have today, Well, there's a lot. We're waiting for the
official details on exactly not so much what got him fired.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I think we can all figure that one out, but
what happened after.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
And you know, look, he was the Pittsfield Township Police,
which is just outside of ann Arvus. So they were
called to this residence at four ten pm. We broke
the story maybe about four thirty five that he had
been fired. And at four I think forty six, the
university put out a statement saying he had been fired,
(10:56):
so fairly recently after he was fired, he went almost
immediately to this house. What happened between him being informed.
I don't know the exact time when he was informed,
but I think the team meeting was going on while
he was there.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
So what happened there? What happened at this residence that led.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
To an assault investigation for an alleged assault.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Where was he in that timeframe and and those details?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I think because he's now obviously sitting in U in
custody waiting to see whether the Washtonawn County prosecutor will
charge him.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Now you got it, the coaching search is on. And
as you said, if they knew three weeks ago, Matt
Campbell's now in play for them, and a couple other
opportunities as well. So they got to expedite everything and
they got to keep everybody on board. You got recruits
you just signed up that you know it brought, you know,
their quarterback Rice Underwood. Now LSU may go, hey, do
(11:56):
you want to now come to LSU. I mean, it
feels it's like everything's on the table. But if you
were doing a short list here, who would you go
after if you're Michigan.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Well, I think that the short list this is the problem.
And I look at I think Dan, I've been on
the show a long time with you. I think you know,
I'm pretty skeptical of timing and all the things. I
don't see how this there's a lot of skeptics of
why why did this happen today? For Michigan, I'm like,
I don't see how this was beneficial to them. Obviously
they would have had a different set of candidates. A
number of candidates were hired, a number of others signed
(12:31):
extensive deals to stay that potentially take them off likely
take them off the market. Now, maybe they were willing
to sign extension because they weren't really a candidate at
Penn State, or they didn't want the Penn State job
or the Florida job. But Michigan is a little bit different.
But a guy like Matt Campbell, he's available a couple
weeks ago and he isn't now. I would say that
(12:53):
the candidates are going to be Alabama's Kitlin de boor
whether they can get him to leave. He has a
very good situation in Alabama. People close to that situation,
talk about you know, his recruiting class, not a lot
of trip kids hitting the portal, momentum of the program.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
All that.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
The downside you following Nick Saban, if you don't win
national titles, fans go what's up? You go ten and
two and make the playoffs every year. At Michigan, they're
pretty happy. So he's going to be a candidate, whether
he's interested or not. I think, you know Jed Fish
up at Washington, Eli Drinkwitz at Missouri, and a bunch
of other hosts of other candidates, and maybe some of
(13:29):
these guys that again they signed a deal to stay.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Maybe Michigan changed their mind.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Jesse Mintor, the defensive coordinator for the Chargers, who obviously
is working under Harrorball, had been at the University of Michigan.
It would be a popular choice there. Michigan's an interesting
job though. You could get all sorts of different NFL
interests that maybe wouldn't go for another position in the thing.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
It's a nice mix that school.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I mean, it's chaotic, they're constantly a scandal, but it's
a nice mix of like, we can win, we have
the resources, we have the money, the alums, the stadium,
the brand, all of that bought. And I hate to
say it's not chaotic, because it's always chaotic in Michigan.
But like the Governor of Michigan is not going to
be involved in the search, the fans aren't expecting national
(14:18):
type five national titles in the next seven years. So
there's some and ann Arbor is a good place to live.
And the Detroit airports right there are big airports. Some
of the things that maybe an NFL coach is going.
I don't want to go to a college town out
in the middle of nowhere. There's there's a lot. Michigan
has a lot of appeal that maybe a couple other
jobs wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
He's Dan Wetzel, The Mothership host College Game Day podcast
New York Times best selling author. What do you think
is the endgame for Notre Dame? After Pete Bavakua came
on and talked about the permanent damage done by the
acc to Notre Dame, I think Notre.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Dame will calm down and there's nothing will come of it.
I'm this this three day pre tour. You started it all, Dan,
you started It's you really your fault. I think I
don't know what. I don't know what this was, but
I think there was a lot of people in Notre
Dame very upset. And if you see the ad coming
(15:17):
out doing all that, you don't see Marcus Freeman, you
don't see the president's school or anything like that. You
see him taking this, and I don't know. I mean,
it's not permanent damage is not There's no permanent damage
in college athletics. I mean you could be dead enemies
today and best friends tomorrow. It doesn't matter. My thing
with Notre Dame. I thought Notre Dame was capable winning
(15:39):
national title. The playoff would be a heck of a
lot better with them in it. It's really disappointing, and
I get how the players are disappointed.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
This entire.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
You know, argument about how the playoff worked would have
been solved if the ACC had a different tiebreaker for
the fifth distermination of a five way tie break, if
they just did rankings instead of whatever, whatever the heck
they had. Yeah, we would have had an ACC championship
game of Miami versus Virginia. Miami either wins gets the
(16:11):
automatic bid, Notre Dame is in, or Virginia wins. Then
you say sorry, Miami, got three losses at this point
and Notre Dame is in and we only have one
group of five, like people want to blow the whole
thing up. It's a tie breaker at the fifth level.
Like it just it wasn't good and and acc should
have seen it, come in and changed it. But when
you go there's two there's two ways to get in
(16:33):
the playoffs, right, you win your champoutferend championship or you
get in this at large back alley knife fight where
anything can happen. People get left out for this criteria
that you don't know what's coming. Notre Dame sees their
independence is great value. It's more valuable than being in
a conference. So they are going to be in this
mix every single time. And last year it worked out
(16:55):
for him. It didn't for Alabama and Miami. This year
worked out for Alabama Miami, not for Notre Dame. You
don't know, but for if Notre Dame didn't alert their
players and their coaches, if the administration wasn't sitting there
going in on Sunday saying, guys, this is a coin flip.
We had no idea, and you just walking in saying
don't worry, everything's good, we're in. You have not paid
(17:19):
any attention to the way this works the last fifty
fourteen years. You are paid a lot of money to
not be blindsided. And they said, well, we're blindsided, and
that's what's bothering us. We don't like Nobody likes the process.
You cannot be blindsided this job. So I think there
was a real dereliction of letting the players know because
I think they would be less disappointed they walked in saying, hey.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
You know, this stinks.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
It stinks.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
We could have won it, but it wasn't. The rug
pulled out. There is no rug in the at large
selection process.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I'm telling my friends who were Notre Dame grads, they'd
be like, what do you think I go. It's up
in the air, you know, prior to it. So if
I felt that Pete Bavaqua and Marcus Freeman should have
felt that as well. Before I let you go, had
a source who told me that the Big Ten is
pushing for twenty four playoff teams. They wont to gain
four automatic qualifiers. At least we're gonna go from twelve
(18:15):
to sixteen. It feels like I don't think we're ready
to go from twelve to twenty four. But your thoughts, Yeah,
the twenty four is a horrible plan.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
I mean, it's just it's terrible because it's not even
twenty four because what the Big ten wants to do
is they take their four bids and they want to
play three games on the conference championship weekend with their
one and two would still play so last year, listen,
if it was this year, Indiana House, they still play
for conference title, and then three would play six, and
(18:45):
so I don't know what they'd be, but like Iowa
is like six maybe, and then Michigan is five and
four would play five. So you can call it a
twenty fourteen playoff. But once you start having play in rounds,
that's the playoff also, so it quickly becomes like a
thirty two team playoff if you extracted out all the
big This is a terrible idea. It's just a terrible idea.
(19:10):
The north star of college football needs to be to
balance maintaining the importance of the regular season, which is
the best in sports, with an inclusive and big, exciting playoff.
And I'll give you example why this twelve is working.
First weekend of the year, no to Dame lost to Miami.
(19:31):
It cost them, And there was another one that first
weekend the year. I can't remember now that one's cost him. Right,
So when you go into next year, you know, watching
on the first week Labor Day weekend and there's a
big matchup between two top ten teams losing matters, you
just can't sit there and be like, oh, we got
five losses. We came in sixth and the big ten.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
We're good.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
We still got a chance. Nobody thinks Michigan should have
another chance. They weren't that good. They only had three losses.
So that plan is I don't even know if the
people who come up with those plans even like college football.
I get what they're trying to make money, but like,
it has got to be something for the fans of
this sport where you maintain something before we don't just
(20:13):
go from four to what's really thirty two teams. If
you extract that plan out, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, but that makes me nervous when you said it's
a terrible idea. That that's when they go, hey, you
know what, everybody, come into the deep end of the poll.
We'll figure it out late. That's always they go let's
do this and then we'll figure it out after the fact.
That's why we get into these situations with the college football,
Not to mention college basketball was going to expand as well,
(20:44):
they're gonna go.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
He's asking for that? Who was asking for that?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
You know, always asking coaches and athletic directors who have
bonuses in their contract that they.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Get in the play.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Nobody is asking for that, and you it's yeah, it's
they may be decisions on a whim to try to
solve the last problem that the big decision created.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
So now they're like, well, the problem is our league
is too big. Well, listen, Big ten.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Who the heck told you to go blow up the
PAC twelve. That's a you problem, not our problem. You
destroyed that league. You destroyed the old Big East. You
altered like the Big Ten reached havoc on college athletics
with their bad ideas, followed by the next it's like
my golf game, Dan, a fix on a fix on
a fix, you know, you slice and now I'm you know,
(21:33):
so this is this is a terrible plan. I think
they will go to sixteen. I think sixteen works if
they eliminate the conference Championship weekend.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Speed this thing up.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Everybody gets in more home games too, please? Can the
fans like attend a game at their own stadium not
be told only the rich people that can fly to
Glendale for this weekend and New Orleans the next weekend.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
They're the only fans to get to ten games.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Well that's another story though for another day. In the
future of these Bowl games, I mean, I maintained, why
don't we start the year with these Bowl games so
you can have matchups that maybe you wouldn't have, And
maybe the pool and weed eater bull survibes, and maybe
the pop Tard bull survives, but you get some good
(22:18):
matchups at the beginning of the year. If you're going
to expand sixteen teams.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
What was the last Bowl game that closed in I
think it was the Blue Bonnet. The ASST business, they
don't go out of business.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I've been hearing for twenty years that the Bowl industry
is dead. They keep making more bulls.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
You know why, people like to watch football and they
like to gamble on football, and it doesn't They will
play two six and six teams will play it like
the New Mexico Bowl, and three million people will watch.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Isn't there a five wins team?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Did five and seven? We don't care.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
But you can watch a game between like the seventh
place ACC team against the sixth place Big ten team
played in Fenway Park, you know, baseball stadium named after uh,
you know, Wasabi uh.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Computer security and like, I'm all in, I gotta watch
this game. Hunt.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
These games don't go out of business. They never go
out of business. You and I will buy any game
that wants to go out of business. These are cash hows.
These guys are crying poverty. Sorry, your game doesn't matter
as much you. There's like forty of them now, how
many were there twenty years ago when the sports thing
was dying?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
The money the people you work for. Now, that's the
reason why we got forty Bowl games because they need programming.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
And as we should, we're just serving the public.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Dan He is an ESPN senior writer. I hope I
didn't you know? Upset you today?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Walk about you do?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I don't know. You just seem like you're fired up.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I'm just I'm naturally passionate. It's a good all right,
It's been a while. Jeez, get me on Bowl games.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I'm not upset.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
We love it.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Listen. I think the pop tar bull is we need
to protect the sanctity of the po too, We really do.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
So that'll be your legacy. That's your legacy.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Be it.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, I will die.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Thank you, Dan. That's Dan Winzel. Fox Sports Radio has
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How there he is.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And he's got a bowl game coming up that'll be Saturday,
December thirteenth. That's so far. He hosts the LA Bowl
and sponsored by Bucked Up, leading sports nutrition lifestyle brand,
the title sponsor for the LA Bowl Boise State against Washington.
Rob Gronkowski joining us on the program.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Where are you, Yes, I'm in val Colorado right now?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Okay, all right, ye.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Ah. This is my French bulldog right here. So I've
been on a media tour right now.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
You're my last stop, Dan, and he's been just like
sleeping on the ground for the last hour and now he's.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Like, get me up on your lap.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
What's his name?
Speaker 7 (25:09):
His name's Ralphie, Ralphie. Yes, he's a good boy.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
If you could have named your dog after a teammate, oh.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
I would say Chan Chandler Jones, Chan straight up Chan.
That's pretty good. Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Do you get people who want you to hit them?
Like Rando? People come up to you actually all the time.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
That's a great question.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
A lot of people sometimes come up to me and
like put their hand down on the ground, and I'm like,
what's going on right now?
Speaker 7 (25:45):
I'm like, hey, buddy, you don't want that to happen.
Trust me.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Like I used to go verse two hundred and eighty
pounds defensive ends on a daily basis, Like I got
that ground force. I know how to move force from
one side to the other side. Sometimes also people are like, yo,
let's arm wrestle. I just don't get into that industry.
I mean I fake it, like, oh right, I'll take
a picture of us fake arm wrestling. But I just
don't know what I'm dealing with at that moment, so
(26:11):
I never actually take the offer when someone tells me
to hate home or tackle hom or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
What hurts on you now from your playing career, you know,
that's a great question.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
If I don't take care of myself, if I go out.
You know, I don't get much sleep. You know, my
knee aches a little bit, my back will go out
on me, and my ankle starts, you know, flaring up.
You know, I've got a lot of injuries. But if
I truly take care of myself, you know, I do
all the right things. I get massages, I do all
the pre have workouts. You know, I can even work
out hard if I get the proper sleep. Literally usually
(26:43):
nothing hurts them.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
And that's great.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
That's what I'm That's what I dedicate myself is taking
care of myself because of that reason, because if I don't,
then things start going out on me because of the
career that I had. But I really like to take
care of myself and do the prehab stuff and do
the workouts that you know, keep my body going and
keep my body strong.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Philip Rivers is what eight years older than you?
Speaker 7 (27:04):
What are you?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Thirty six?
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Yes, I'm thirty six and he's forty four. Yes.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
To be away for five years at that position, what's
the first thing that maybe comes back to him or
is never coming back?
Speaker 7 (27:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
I mean, if I was a betting man and I
had to truly put a bet on it, I would
go against Philip Rivers. And it's not because I don't
like Philip Rivers. A guy was an unbelievable quarterback. He's
probably a Hall of Fame quarterback, you know, in the future.
I mean, what he did as for his career was remarkable.
It would be any quarterbacks dream to have what he
he had and how many you know, touchdowns and pass
he's thrown for. But if I'm a betting man, like
(27:43):
I said, I would go against him, I would say
that it's not going to happen what, you know, in
the way that they think it could possibly happen, you know,
with the Colts and whatever he's thinking. I mean, he's
forty four years old, he's been out of the game
for four or five years. If anyone could possibly do
if any position can do this, it's definitely the quarterback
position only that could you know, possibly pull this off.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
But I just don't see that arm.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Strength being up to par where it needs to be,
and I don't see the consistency of that arm being
where it needs to be as well. Can he take
a hit if he goes in the game, I don't know.
I don't think so. I mean, it's kind of absurd.
But if I got to bet against it, if I
got a bet for it, I would go against it.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, it just seems crazy that they're in that position
where you're going to bring back a forty four year old.
I mean, he's in a high school coach, he's a grandfather.
Aren't there any other quarterbacks in America, Gronk that you
could bring in to help out this team?
Speaker 6 (28:43):
That's what I was wandering, I mean, try to grab No,
you can't grab anyone off a practice squad. The trade
deadline's over, But there has to be someone else else
out there on the streets like that played last year.
What about digging into that XFL or whatever the XFL
slash United Football League that combined you know, the last year.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
That's a pretty solid league.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I mean, there has to be a quarterback from there,
even grabbing a quarterback from the Canadian Football League, Like,
there has to be someone that's played out there that
can go in and handle an offense at least to
power the you know, the go out there and produce
just how they need them to produce. But like in
this situation, I mean, it's it's wild to me that
this is going on and I'm hoping for the best.
(29:26):
But why I'm saying it's going to be so hard
for Philip Rivers is because of the last you know,
four years, five years.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
You got to be up to speed with this game.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
You know, you got to be up to speed with defenses,
how fast they are, how strong these guys are, and
you got to be up to speed with your arm
as well.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
So what was he doing over the last four or
five years?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
You know?
Speaker 7 (29:47):
And also he has fourteen kids approximately.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
He's a husband. How does he even have time to
throw sixty passes a day? Because once you do retire,
you usually check out and just take care of your family.
So it's all the depends on what he was doing
Dan over the last four years.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
For the record, I don't think he has fourteen kids,
but he does have I.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
Think he does have a lot. It's not fourteen, but
it's out there.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, I don't know if he's double digits, but but
but I.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Think he is.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
I mean there's some players out there that are.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
But well, apparently we know what he's been doing in
the last five years, then he's got double digit kids there, Gronk.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Yes, we sure do, Okay, at least we know he's
in shape.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
We're talking Rob Gronkowski, the four time Super Bowl champ,
and it's Bucked Up leading sports nutrition and lifestyle brand
and the title sponsor for the LA Bowl presented hosted
by Gronk. That'll be Saturday, December thirteenth. What is your
role there as the master of ceremony.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Yes, the master of ceremony kind of because I do
go to the fan festival, you know, two hours prior
to the game, get out the fans, hyped out up,
do a couple activities, do a couple of games. But
this is my third year hosting the game. The first year,
I sung the national anthem, I raised the Boise State
Broncos dog at halftime.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
And I'm only one of the few to ever beat
the dog.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
As well, I was just happy he went off course
and I just talked to I talked to the teams
as well, the two teams, congratulate them, welcome them to
the you know, Bucked Up LA Ball. It's gonna be
at Sofi Stadium. And what makes this game special this year?
The first year was great Boise State versus UCLA. Ucla
won the game. You know, Ashton genty was part of
the game Top five pick last year for the Las
(31:33):
Vegas Raiders. This year is going to be special because
it's only going to be the only football game going
on in the world when it's on TV Saturday night,
and it's directly after the Heisman Trophy presentation as well,
so it's going to be hot. And we got two
legit teams here. We got the Boise State Broncos. They
just won the Mountain West Conference this year and that's
a that's a pretty solid conference. So they got the
(31:54):
automatic bid to our bowl game. And then we got
the Washington Huskies. We got Jetfish as the head coach,
and he betrayed me at the University of Arizona, Dan Patrick.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
I'll let you know that I'm going to have to
have a word with him. He was there, he turned
the program around, and then he left us. He went
to the Washington Huskies.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
I mean, Washington Huskies ain't that much better than the
University of Arizona.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
And he turned us around and he did have a
pretty solid year this year. He was eight and four.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
They do have a good team, they have a good
running back and the three of their losses actually came
from Ohio State, Oregon, and Michigan, and they competed in.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
All three of those games.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
So this is going to be a very solid football game,
the Huskies versus the Broncos. I'm looking forward to it
Saturday night at SOFI Stadium, December thirteenth.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
It's going to be popping.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
You're in Veil, you know, you can have fun. People
you know like to party in Vail. Are those days done?
Are those days done?
Speaker 7 (32:51):
You know they're not. I like to have a good time.
I like to go out. I like the bust balls.
I like to have my friends around me.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
We you know, bust each other's chops. That's how we're partying. Yeah,
And I don't ever go overboard anymore. Definitely back in
the day, Dan, I was going overboard. You know, you
just get so hammered and stuff, and you can't do
that anymore. Just five days to recover. I'm a social drinker. Now,
I don't do it much, but I'm a social drinker.
I'm gonna setting. I like to have one or two
get you feeling good. But it's very dangerous up here
(33:17):
in this elevation. Actually I didn't like it. I had
an ipa beer eleven thousand feet up and it made
me feel.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Like complete garbage, but I did have it. I did
then come down.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
I had a tequila shot at the top off the day,
and let me tell you, the tequila shot got me
rolling then. So no beers, no ipa beers up in
this elevation. For some reason, the elevation and the beers
don't go together.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
That's a great tip. Like do you ski?
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yes, I'm a skier, Okay, Yes, I love skiing. I
ski growing up in Buffalo. Those are small mountains there,
but now this is the big Dog mountains and people
are amazed.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
They don't know it's me, because that's what's so great
about skiing is that I just go out there. I'm
a free man up there. But so many people have
been coming up to me. Yo, you're a huge like
how you skiing?
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Like? Your skis are huge. They look like boats. They
look like two snow forwards on each leg. And that's
the experience I've been having. But it's funny because I
changed my voice too when I talk to people, because
I just like being free up here and don't want
anyone that knows it's me just cruising around.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
What's the fake voice?
Speaker 7 (34:21):
Yeah, I don't know. I just come up with on
a spot like Yo, what what up? Like, Yeah, I'm tall,
Like it's just soft. Sorry I'm tall, Like yeah, I
get it all the time.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Uh Well, good luck with uh bucked Up, the leading
sports nutrition and lifestyle brand and the title sponsor of
the La Bull hosted by Gronk. That'll be Saturday night,
after the Heisman Trophy ceremony at so Far. Great to
catch up with you at Gronk. Thank you, Bud, hey.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
Dan, thanks for always having me on your show man.
It's always a pleasure.
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