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Today The Dan Patrick Show, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington fill in for the guys as they talk about the opting out of bowl games for players and teams now and wonder if it should be accepted. Plus, the guys react to Coach John Calipari going off on the NCAA and its transfer portal in a heated rant for the ages, Petros Papadakis stops on by, and more!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Begin Just search two pros FSR and subscribe, And good
morning to you and yours. What up? Sticks?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
What up?

Speaker 4 (01:00):
You're always like laid back man like you never get
as much excitement out of you.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
You know what's up, y'all? What what ut BEFERRONI cowboy?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
You got all the kids in town? Are you guys
all love? What's New Year's even gonna look like? I
don't know, man gett.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
I want to be probably probably start as soon as
the show was over.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
It probably started yesterday already started continuing into today. They
top golfed yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
So my son's actually a pretty doll going good golfer man,
the younger one. So they went to golf have a
good time doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Did you bring Monsy?

Speaker 6 (01:44):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:44):
I know she loves top golf. I know and in
Vegas too, of all places. We didn't take her yesterday. Sorry,
what's up?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Mancy? Might be we might need to retire that?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
All right? So you guys want to hear John Caspary
bitch about uh about a situation that's currently going on
in college basketball. He recruited me cal party did Where
was he?

Speaker 6 (02:11):
Then?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
You mass?

Speaker 5 (02:13):
That was when he had us cambi in. Yeah, they
had that year, that magical year they practiced on our court.
He came there because his his head coach was my
head coach. His college head coach was my high school
head coach, and they were recruiting me. So they brought
the team there to practice. He came and gave us
a great speech.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
So, yeah, got recruited by coach cal Bob Huggins.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Who else John Thompson.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Hell yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about me.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
I had a few Villanova recruited me. I had a
few few teams. You know that I just stopped growing,
that's all, you know, that was the problem. I would
have had to become a real basketball player if I
was going to play basketball. It's too short to just
use talent.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
So that's wild too, because how sorry you like six
four six six four six four, it's like six y
three just under six four, right.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
It's just funny though that like you're like this, yeah,
but this is the way you're saying it, Like I'd
have to become a real basketball player, which you know.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
For most people like I just I don't know. I
think you were better than most.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
I had a vertical I could jump. I think what
had people confused is I was getting rebounds over guys
that were like six nine, six ten. But it's only
because I could move quicker. You know, the taller they were,
the slower they were, and I beat I beat quads up,
elbowed quads, So you didn't get off the ground as quick,

(03:39):
didn't move as quick. I was like a rockman. I
was a work guy. I was gonna run, run, run, run,
use my quicks off.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
The court too.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Absolutely, Yeah ruined me. Basketball ruined me. Football saved me.
Basketball ruined me. It's a different level of clout when
you play basketball. Man, I ain't gonna lie to you
like I was on the circus, you know, a bro.
I was on the travel circuit and that that iso

(04:07):
very different than football.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Bob Huggins showed you the row.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
So hey, brouh, it's very different from football. I don't
know why, like I was considered to be way handso
murder being a basketball player than I was a football player.
But it is what it is. It's still all worked
out so well.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I mean, the good news is you could probably go
back and play now based on I got one year,
based on what we've seen. So we talked about this
a little bit yesterday on our show.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yes Wow.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
James Naji, who was a former NBA draft pick. He
was the thirty first overall pick. I believe in twenty
twenty three, he's with Baylor. Now he has now gone
back and he's playing with Baylor, and so some people
have not been thrilled about what he's going on. Yeah,
it's the whole things wild. You got European players that

(04:56):
are coming in that are all it just none of
it makes any sense. And John Calipari decided, you know what,
somebody's got to speak up.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Let me be the guy.

Speaker 7 (05:05):
Well, look, I don't blame coaches. You know, I've got
friends that are playing with twenty seven year olds and
they feel bad. I said, don't feel bad. We don't
have any rules. Why should you feel bad? But let
me give you this real simple. The rules bees the rules.
So if you put your name in the draft, I

(05:27):
don't care if you're from Russia and you stay in
the draft, you can't play college basketball. Well that's only
for American kids. What if your name is in that
draft and you got drafted, you can't play cup because
that's our rule. Yeah, but that's only for American kids. Okay, okay,

(05:48):
Now here's the next lawsuit. Well, we don't have a
say over European players. You do if they're playing in
college basketball. So that means you don't have a say
over high school kids. So whatever a high school kid
does before he comes here, don't you do one thing
because there's a suit, Because what you're saying is if

(06:10):
he's in Europe, we don't have the same rules. Does
anybody care what this is doing for seventeen and eighteen
year old American kids? Do you know what this opportunity
has done for them and their families? There aren't gonna
be any high school kids who other than dumb people
like me are going to recruit high school kids. I

(06:31):
get so much satisfaction out of coaching young kids and
seeing them grow and make it and their family life
changes that I'm gonna keep doing it.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
But why would anybody else?

Speaker 7 (06:42):
If you can get NBA players, G League players, guys
that are twenty eight years old, guys from Europe?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Do we really know their transcript?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Do we have somebody over there?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Do we really know their birth certificate?

Speaker 2 (06:56):
So that was John Calipari, let it be own his
feelings on the situation involving guys returning to college basketball
late into their twenties with eligibility still remaining in the
NBA draft. Charlie Baker, the NCAA president, He responded with
a statement, on Tuesday that said, quote, the NCAA is

(07:17):
not and will not grant eligibility to any perspective or
returning student athletes who have signed an NBA contract, including
a two way contract. Calipari was on ESPN last night
and said, well, they're moving the goalpost now because now
it's if you haven't signed a contract, you can't come back.
But when before it was if you are in the

(07:37):
draft and you get drafted, that's it.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
And and they're saying that because of their legal expertise
that someone's provided Charlie Baker, that they feel like they
can say that and not get sued because every time
the NCAA has gone, you know, up against the judicial system,
they've lost. This is an inflection point for college sports,

(08:01):
and it's one of the reasons like why on our
show on two Pros, I've continually talked about this with
you guys in regards to everything kind of seems up
in the air, and basketball has been further ahead because
there's been this whole you know, at first you could
just leave right from high school and go to play
professional basketball, and then it came back in with the
one undone and John Calipari was one of the first

(08:23):
to really embrace that and embody that, but even allowing
that to take place was a step closer to completely
disregarding the educational component and the developmental component. And there's
elements of that that are still at play in college

(08:44):
football right now, and that's brought forth by the transfer
portal because that's now become big business. So I say
it's an inflection point for college sports in general right
now because we've almost looked at trying to like, in
a way private ties this whole experience for young people

(09:05):
and what this experience means. It used to mean development,
It used to mean getting an education.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
It used to mean, you.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Know, graduating with a degree, a platform, a network, and
a foundation, where after you were rewarded with that, you'd
move on into the private sect or you'd potentially be
lucky enough to be one of the one to two
to three percent, depending on the sport, to play professionally.
But at some point that ends. And now we've looked
at it's completely different. We're like, well, wait a second,

(09:34):
these players should be compensated, and yet we haven't had
anyone come up with a structure that allows both things
to work where they can be compensated, yet at the
same time, we can still keep the educational component there
for them. So there's something for these young men and
women when they get done with their playing careers to

(09:57):
fall back on to then go search for whatever that
next is.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
That's the tough part.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
About this whole conversation is as much as we want
to make light of it and joke about it, there
is a lot of people who are impacted at the
high school level moving into college that are having opportunities
taken away from people who already had that opportunity and
they weren't good enough. And I'll even go as far
as saying this the NCAA whimping out with how many

(10:23):
eligibility waivers they've granted for a lot of players who
are now playing, you know.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Six seven years of college football.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
It's the same thing that same players taking up a
high school players roster spot and his opportunity to crack
into you know, onto the field and play and make
his impact.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
But it's all because it's become big business. Now. I
hate it where it's at.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I understand why it's where it is, and I'm not
like arguing for you know, student athletes not to be compensated,
but there does need to be a reckoning where someone
comes and saves the day. And I'm sorry, I'm just
not a believer that the federal government is going to
do it, even though it feels like every time Charlie
Baker speaks he's begging Congress to step in and give

(11:10):
them some sort of anti trust protection.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
I think it's a it's a tremendously large conversation that
Kyler Perry opened because there are a lot of unknowns
there are, and there are a lot of different different
ways of doing things and different ways of seeing things.
And that's by sport. I mean, it's it's touched into
now the gender conversation. You don't even you know, need

(11:38):
to go down that road right now, but I mean
that is a conversation that's out there as well. You know,
people's ability to compete and where they're competing at. You
know that those lines have been now been crossed and
have been blurred, and those conversations are ensuing. But you know,
by sport, you're talking about people that are you know

(11:59):
when they say to Euros, you know it costs more,
it costs more to bring European players here to play
for one, it costs more, and a lot of times
they go straight from from high school to pro There
is no light, there is no system set up the
way it's set up here in America. And so if

(12:23):
you're if you are living and dying by going after
that that what you would call experience and trying to
bring that here to be able to compete and win
in the certain sports that exists.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, you're you're right.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
It is going to hurt what takes place with high
school kids and developmental situations because you're not looking to
develop kids. It's so interesting, we'll say, We'll hear coaches
say it's all about the development, it's all about the development.
But you you go into their practices, whether it's football,
whether it's basketball, baseball, hockey, whatever you choose the sport.

(12:57):
A lot of times when you go to these colleges,
they are not doing focused development periods like they used to.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
They're not.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
They get straight into it, they go right to it.
No real development. And for what it's worth. The one
thing that you mentioned Q that really is kind of
becoming a scarcity is the educational component of it. You
don't hear people speak on education. It's almost like the

(13:30):
nil phase of where we are in college athletics has
almost muted the conversation of how important education is in
this scenario because most of the vast majority of these
people will have to find a job post college career,

(13:51):
the vast, vast, vast majority of them. And so now
what are we doing. We're not only not preparing them
to be able to compete, because we want them to
be ready made to compete. Come in ready made. If
you're not ready to go, then I'm going.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
With who is?

Speaker 5 (14:11):
But now you're also talking about those the expectations have
have really really dowed in on what your obligations and
your duties are to your team, to your team, and
it only becomes an issue with your grades when your
grades are an issue, right, it's not. It's not, oh,

(14:33):
you didn't go to class, okay, like you're going to
get in trouble for that. They have rules to govern like,
you know, going to class and getting grades, but it's
really not going to be a focal point until you've
done something that gets you in trouble, you get bad grades,
you're not going to class, whatever it may be. But
it's not a main focal point of what's taking place.

(14:57):
So I look at it like there's such as such
a large conversation because the way we look at things.
Yet you go, you enter your name into the draft,
you can't come back. That's how I always thought it was,
and I thought that is what it was.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I think it was when you signed with an agent.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
But yeah, when you when you signed with I thought
it was when you declare it for the draft.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I don't know. And if you got drafted whatever it is,
well for for basketball, excuse me?

Speaker 5 (15:20):
Right, Okay, So so again across sports, if you think
about it, you can get drafted in hockey and still
they go play. You can get drafted in baseball and
still go play. You can be a pro in volleyball
and still go play, you know what I mean. So
it's like so many different different, uh you know, ways

(15:40):
of how things are done by sport. It's this is
going to be a very very difficult conversation to like
come up with solutions for.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Let me play Devil's advocate to you, Jonas in this situation,
because wouldn't you look at this and just say, well,
isn't that isn't.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
This how it's supposed to be done?

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Like don't you go to college, if you're a student
to then figure out what you want to do, how
are you gonna make money when.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
You get out?

Speaker 4 (16:03):
And if student athletes have already been able to do
that at the college level, then yeah, I think we
understand the long term impact or the long term risks
that are involved if you don't get your degree. But
if you're making money while you're doing that, Like, isn't
that the entire goal?

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
And I look at it, and I've said this to
you guys before, it doesn't feel like this is college
sports anymore. It's this in between gray area between college
and professional to where they're selling you the illusion of well,
it's college and it's a college experience and it's this
and it's that.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
But there's money.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
There's a lot of money. There's influence, there's agents, there's
like all of these things that are that are now
being factored into it. That's professional Like, that's pro sports.
Like that's what you deal with at the pro level.
And I don't begrudge any of them, because yes, like
that is the goal. You go to college to find
out what's my next step? What do I want to

(17:02):
do in life? And they've figured this out and they're
just like John Caliparty said it in the clip. He said, look,
I got friends that are you know, kind of feel bad.
I mean, I would you know, question that how bad
they actually feel. Yeah, they've got twenty seven year olds
on there on the table. But John Calparty's like, well, look,
don't feel bad. We don't have any rules. There's nothing

(17:25):
to govern all this. And so there is also.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
That John's the moral compass.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Well, and that's the other thing too, Like you know,
he made it a point, you know, to let everybody know, hey, listen,
I recruit this way.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
He's self plugged. He definitely shamelessly plugged.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
He was. He was one of the first guys that
went one and done all the way through. I mean,
Brady knows his time in Kentucky, John Caliparty's time there.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Bring it up now.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
So he's like he's I mean, look, he's one of
the he's a Hall of Fame recruiter.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Now what he's done with some of those teams.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
A little disappointed as far as the development, but again,
you well, when you only have one year to make
it work to your point, levard it's tough like that,
and I think that's one of the issues too. With
even looking at like college football, where you've got to
be outle of high school for three years before your
draft eligible. But nowadays coaches instead of looking at a

(18:16):
guy that gets there in high school and maybe he
has to put on twenty thirty pounds and maybe you
has to learn how to play the position or learn
their scheme and then and then adapt to you know,
the challenges of being like a maturing adult with your
time management, being away from home, all that stuff. You know,
Now they just go, well, that guy's not ready, We're
going to find some of the transfer portal that's right,
and they bring in a guy who they've seen on

(18:38):
film can do the things that they're looking for. And
again that's NFL, that is free agency. That is exactly
what's happening. And it's important too because you know, not
it's not happening in college quite as much because there's
so much money with somebody his head coaching positions, so
the buyouts are too big. But you know, as far
as being a one and done coach, but there's elements

(19:00):
of I think for players and families and the frustration
of not getting the development they're hoping for, at least
at some places like I don't want to speak for
everyone because everyone's you know, there's different schools that I
think do it right, and I think there's you know,
unique circumstances that are involved in some of this always.
But for football, for sure, because it's such a developmental sport.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
You know, there's guys who their bodies changed dramatically.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
And for basketball, it's a little bit different because there
they've always been on the fast track. They identify kids
in junior high as you talked about when you're on
that AAU circuit and you're one of those dudes like
Cooper Flag.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
People knew about Cooper Flag for forever ago, now.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Have you that's everybody and that And that's a great point,
and I know we're up on it, but don't you
think it now has to start earlier, like we have
to like the way we approach athletics has to be
looked at differently now. And it's interesting because it's something
that I'm working on. I'm actually going to be teaching
at Penn State upcoming semester. You have to learn teach.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Arrington. You're not going to be you're being Professor Arrington.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
And part of writing the curriculum too, and you got
to move there.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
What are you doing?

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah, I know it has to It has to be
a coming of uh of terms that extracurricular needs to
be thrown out for sports. We've been brainwashed to look
at sports as extra curricular. But there's so many opportunities
that exist in sports, from agents to money managers, to

(20:40):
legal representation, to the athlete themselves, to marketing and branding
and advertising. There's so many opportunities that exist in the category.
We have to stop segregating, separating athletics from amics. And

(21:01):
I think that that's the biggest thing. We have been
brainwashed from day one to think that everything else is
more important.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Go to school, what do you do?

Speaker 5 (21:10):
You take your classes, and then when you're done with school,
then you go do the extracurricular things like playing a sport,
the sport that you're playing for. You have to there
has to be a understanding that the training, the development,
the preparation of how you're how you're being educated at

(21:34):
the younger levels has to become I think it has
to become more of a focal point. And I know
we see these different schools that are like an IMG.
You know, you see it at these different places that
have the money and the resources to do it. But
there has to be a different approach to how we
view athletics moving forward as this NIL era continues to grow.

(21:56):
Because it's impacting the high school level, it's impacting, it's.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Impacting middle school.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Like youth athletics is being impacted by the in il
and and so to me, there's a preparation that isn't
taking place. And to be educated as kids, to be
educated as.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Parents, as adults. They don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
When you guys were in high school, do you remember
taking a finance class?

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Yes, I learned how to write checks, I learned how
to balance my check work.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
I learned how to do all those things. But it
was it was well standing.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, the simple stuff.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
There should be something to Hey, you're gonna have a
lot of money coming your way at a really young age.
Let us teach you what it could be. Now it
could be now, like make that part of the requirement
if you want. You've got to learn how this works.
So at least you've given them the tools. If they
don't use it, that's fine, but at least you've given
them the opportunity to learn.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
And and then I think that's part of some of
the curriculum. Now, that's that's inherent to every nil program
and every school and the college level, you know, as
far as high school. It's kind of it's it's tough
to do that because you're really talking about like the
one point one percent. It's such a small population that
falls in this category.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
I mean even across that.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
Will go pro, that will go pro, sure, But but
the idea of understanding the business of sport, that's everybody.
That's that's all, and they should have the opportunity to
be educated that way. Somebody that that played with you
on the football team could have been a part of
your business unit moving forward through school.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
You know, they could have been the person that.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
Was making sure that your your branding was was correct.
Like what is Brady Brady's brand? We're going to make
sure that brand is built and pronounced. What what is
he doing financially? Like is he able to generate modeling
gigs and stuff like that?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
He's got the meat wagon, come on whatever?

Speaker 5 (23:42):
Who but think about it, his best friends are his
best friends and they're still buddies from high school.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
The role doing anything to help this process.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
There's a role for everybody is what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
And if that role is carrying the bags and it
might be carrying the bags and meat wagon, your your back.
We're people too, bro, I'm with you on that. Don't
let them hold you down, man, just be who you are.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
But I'm just.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Saying there is the idea that the educating of what
sport represents it should not be looked at as extracurricular.
You know, we don't look at you preparing to be
a scientist as being extracurricular. We don't look at you
being an architect or a lawyer as being extracurricular.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
So let's look.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
At something that is a tremendous fabric of what our
culture and our society is, which is sports, and make
it more of a focal point so that we can
actually have prepared parents and student athletes that are more
enlightened and understanding what the landscape presents. People don't even

(24:50):
know what NIL is. Still to this day, ask some people.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
About what NIL is. They wouldn't be able to tell
you what it is.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
So educating them at an earlier age get parents on
the same page at an earlier age for both those
who will continue on to be pros and those who
will continue on to be students. I might have been
a really really good football player and a basketball player
at the high school level. I'm not going to make
it at the college level, but I still want to

(25:18):
be a part of that sport. You're now giving them
opportunities as well. You're opening up the gates to having
people be more empowered with the changing landscape of what
sports represents.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Now.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
That's to me, I feel like that's what's grossly missing
in America because they don't play that. In Europe, they
don't play that. If you are good, they come get
you and you're out of there. You're already it's already
what it is. But here we don't do that. In fact,
we frown on it. If we give if we give
benefits and favoritism to elites in athletics, it's frowned upon,

(25:57):
and people try to find rules to govern in it
and keep them from doing it. I've seen more than
enough kids get, you know, suspended for seasons because they
wanted to go play out of school where there was
better coaching or better exposure or better education.

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On what it is that they're they're trying to do.

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There's always a roadblock that we're putting up to try
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buying should be. So do you remember how when Christian
McCaffrey and Leonard Fournette opted out of bowl games and

(29:05):
it was like how could they? Like, how could you
do that to your teammates? You know, how could you?
They're trying to get ready for the draft, and it
was just like there was all this criticism that was
levy towards them, and then you know, Notre Dame ops
out of wanting to play in a bowl game, and
they got all sorts of heat about it what you're
too good for the bull? Yes, yes, as a matter

(29:26):
of fact, yeah, believe it or not, there are certain
people in college sports that are better than others like
that that it is. I don't want to say beneath them,
but yeah, they can get to places and get to
where they want to go and not need everything that
comes along with every other program or every other player
in the sport. And I don't think that you look

(29:47):
at And what reminds me of this is years ago,
do kind of really down year and they decided to
not partake in the n I T and they got
a lot of heat for it, and it was like, well,
what are too good for the endite? Yes? Yeah, as
a matter of fact, we have options. And I feel
like there's sort of a bitterness towards players and programs

(30:11):
who have options who are bigger than some of these
other things that are thrown on their lap and other
things that are out there in the world of college sports.
And I don't know if you guys see that as
well too, but I definitely see it. And I've never
had an issue with a player or a team deciding
what they want us to do is not in our
best interest. Despite whether or not anybody likes it or not.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I think that's what's a good point.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yeah, I would just say I would say for me,
I didn't opt out. And so there's personal personal assessments
and then there's sensible assessments. The sensible side of me says,
it's your choice. You know, if you're at the point
in your career where you're about to go to the pros,

(30:57):
I mean you think of who is the young man
and that was Dope linebacker for Notre Dame Smith plays
and plays in the game, and and Jackson's lag up
or McGahee jackes lag up, and those are extreme. Those
are extreme cases. But I mean, do you want to
risk being one of the extreme cases that could alter
what your future is. So I look at it from

(31:20):
that perspective and say, if somebody wants to, you know,
say listen, I'm going to prepare for the next level.
For what it's worth, our regular season is finished, this
is the bowl season.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
I'm going to opt out. Like I get that.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
Now.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
It's a little.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
Harder to make that determination with the playoffs because you
still have a chance to win the national title. And
that would to me not mean that your season is over.
But if it's just a regular bowl game, you know,
if it is the n I T Tournament and you
are a classic blue blood team that generally plays in
the regular tournament, I don't I don't see there being

(31:59):
an issue you with it. But I do think it's cool.
Like Deny, you know, Dennis Deny Sutton. You know, he
he played and he bald and I probably butchered his name.
I might have messed it up because I got used
to calling his name different. But anyway, he balled out,
balled out for Penn State because I called him Deny.

(32:20):
That's all I call him. But behind did you try
to put them all together? Sometimes I put him in
the wrong order, But anyway, you know, but Zaye Durant
opted out, you know, Zaki Wheatley, he opted out. And
I don't feel any differently about them than I do
with Dennis playing in the game. So I just think
it's a personal deal. Don't get to, like you said,

(32:42):
caught up personally into it.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah, look to that point, there's individual decisions. I think
there's teams decisions too. What's interesting to me about this
where we're venturing to in college football because you point
out that about Duke, and I think it's always kind
of existed too for some of the bigger programs that
if they do have that down year, if they.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Don't go to the n I, you know, it's kind
of view to so be it.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Like the transfer portal has changed a lot of that
because your roster turnover is so significant, and I think
if you look at it from a football perspective nowadays,
I mean, if you're not a part of the College
Football Playoff, you're probably gonna be losing a good amount
of players either to the portal, to their eligibility being up,
which maybe is in question nowadays, or you know, to

(33:29):
go into the NFL. And if that's the case, you know,
are you really putting your brand, your program the best
foot forward when you go out and play some of
these bowl games.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Probably not?

Speaker 6 (33:38):
Right.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
I mean, like, do Tennessee losing the Illinois do anything
to help their program or the perception of the SEC.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
And again I'm not saying that they shouldn't go out
there and play because it's another opportunity to go out
there and play football.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
It's the greatest game of the world.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
In my opinion, But we also act like this isn't
a business and just talking from the NNIL side and
how agents talk to these now, that's how it's structured.
Like you play your regular season, if you play for
a national championship, every single agent that's representing these kids
are going to tell you to go out there and play. Now,
they might be trying to leverage what you're getting paid
to get paid more if you're a team that's part

(34:13):
of the playoff. We heard about that story last year
with nigo Ia Malaiava and Tennessee before they played Ohio State,
they were trying to redo the contract get paid more.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
So that sort of stuff is going on.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
But when you really peeled all back, you know, it
doesn't sometimes make as much sense for some of those
brands in those schools, you know, but again it's their
own individual choice. I don't have a problem with a
guy sitting out or even a team at this point
only because if they're going to have a lot of
moving parts with all of it, then why not focus
on what is to be that next season and everyone,

(34:45):
especially for teams that have guys coming back. I mean,
let's say, for example, last night, Jade Mayava got hurt
that I was going to impact his ability to start
the following year. Does that make that game worth it
for sc especially in hindsight losing the way you did.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Probably not.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
And so I just that whole question of these exhibition games,
these additional bowl games, then their existence, like it's it's
gonna come to the forefront here soon.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, it's kind of a I don't know. I look
at it and I go, there's a lot of people
speaking on behalf of choices being made that have nothing
to do with them. I literally have nothing to do
with them, does not does not impact them, does not
benefit them. Like you mentioned Jalen smith Man, remember Jake,
But Jake Butt was thought to be like a really

(35:33):
top prospect in the NFL tight end. He got it,
he got his leg ripped up in a Bowl game.
Like it's just like, so you want them to just
risk it so that you could, you know, seeing what
dump cheese. It's on their head like everybody else is
doing it. Why can't you do it? Okay, Well, I
don't know, because I've got to fifty.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
That's the reality if you really peel back that.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
The business model is most of these ball games, these
exhibition ball games are owned by ESPN.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
If there was forty of them, about half I.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Think sold off some of them and some are obviously
owned by others, But when you really look at it,
most of them are owned by ESPN, so it's kind
of their own creation. It's part of their business model
for this time of year because their ratings for these
bull games are typically higher than many of these teams
usually you know face like I guarantee you Coastal Carolina
and Louis Gonna Tech yesterday probably rated higher than any

(36:22):
of their other games this season because it was on
in a spot where it was a standalone nothing's up
against him, and people are dying for some sort of sports.
There's gambos who want to bet, so that's all part
of you know, their model to make money off it.
So there's no one gets more upset about it than
ESPN when a team opts out there not part.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Of their you know, postseason business model.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
But does it make sense for anyone else you know
that that's involved in the process, the coaches, the players,
maybe not. I mean again, like this is not a
part of them getting paid additionally, and that's a conversation
we have to start.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Having that that's the bigger conversation, you.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Know, like like we're not getting like bowl game bonuses
for these players if they get in the playoff. Maybe
is structured in there, but like we're not to that
point yet. We don't have a CBA for the players.
There's not a union that's you know, collective, collectively bargaining
against whatever power structure is created.

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And you know.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
There's been a lot of great guests in the year
twenty twenty five on the Dan Patrick Show, but it's
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(38:42):
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Speaker 6 (38:54):
Happy New Year?

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Where you at?

Speaker 6 (38:57):
He? Oh it goes, what do I not sound good?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
No, you're sound great.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
You don't sound like you normally sound.

Speaker 6 (39:04):
Though, no no, I explained that I'm on vacation. I'm
actually in the desert here in a Rancho mirage right now.
I'm actually in the Palm Desert area because I'm driving
to yoga. So I'm very happy to be joining you
guys and happy New Year. And I have been listening

(39:26):
to the show while you guys have been doing your
excellent work the last few days.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Oh wow, thanks thanks Peving. I got to ask you
after last night's outcome, an I'll live that any thoughts.

Speaker 6 (39:44):
Well, I mean, my father asked me at halftime while
I was at dinner with my family and my daughter
was throwing a fit because it was Baja Tuesday at
the club and they didn't have any other food available
other than Mexican food, which I guess she doesn't like,
because she was very upset and it was a struggle.

(40:05):
And my dad asked me at halftime what I think
was going to happen? What I thought was going to
happen in the game, And I told him that I
thought it was going to be a back and forth
event all the way down the stretch, even though USC
was playing against a walk on quarterback. I know they
had a few guys opting out as well, but that
was a walk on cornerback, and he led TCU to

(40:28):
victory over USC with their all world quarterback by Allah,
and obviously the tackling in the fourth corner of the
inability to end the game on offense and hold on
to the ball and run the ball when you need
to run the ball. I mean, you guys saw the
same thing. You guys watch USC all the time. It's
the same old story. An unorganized team, a special teams penalty.

(40:53):
I talked to Daniel Teremiah. He made the point on
Twitter that they're best receiver. The only guy that was
baking plays was not in on the third down and overtime,
wasn't even in the game, and they had a giant
noseguard like a three hundred and fifty pound guy with

(41:14):
a three man rush on third and twenty who doesn't
need to be on. I mean, just disorganize, overall uninspiring mediocrity,
which you've come to expect from the Lincoln Riley USC teams, SEEZ.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
So where do they go from here? Then?

Speaker 5 (41:33):
Then Petro's I mean, obviously we've we've been having extended
conversations about the whole doing away with the rivalry game
between those TEAMEN and USC. Then you see a game
like this take place with USC, and like, how does that,
I mean, does that have any bearing on the conversation
like where you go from here? Like are people going

(41:53):
to pony up money and say, Okay, we want to
go in a different direction? Then what's going on with
what we got going on now? Or do you stay
right in the same space that you're in because maybe
it's not affordable or fiscally sound to try to move
into a different a different place in your you know,
in your school's history.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
Big go. I think if Brady made the point the
other day, I think if USC really had the money,
they would buy out Lincoln Riley and stop trying to
convince themselves that they're with somebody that's really special as
the head coach and allow that guy to manipulate the
schedule the way he has and to basically embrace mediocrity.

(42:38):
And I realized the USC teams I played on were
mediocre and maybe even less than that, But we didn't
embrace mediocrety. We went and played the schedule and thought
of ourselves as a high standard football team where the
bar is very high at a place, and our coaches

(42:59):
got fired when we didn't win. And I don't really
know where they go from here, Levarn To be honest,
I think they kind of think further into mediocrity. We
haven't seen any other evidence. They occasionally will win a
big game that gives the fans a little bit of hope,
but they always seem to regrets to the mean, which

(43:22):
is what you've seen from Lincoln Riley over the years.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Is this the I don't know. I don't know if
beginning of the end is the right term for it.
But if you know the manipulation of the schedules, you
you know, have an easier schedule and you're not having
to deal with you know, Notre Dame any longer. And
then him coming out and placing blame on Notre Dame
if they go into next year and they're not a
playoff team again, like does did this? Maybe fast track

(43:50):
the conversation about ar Well, maybe he's not the guy.
Maybe we do need to make some changes and move
forward in a different direction.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
Well, when they lost a bunch of games in Caleb
Williams was the quarterback in year two, that was probably
the biggest red flag and then it just kind of
dissipated from there, and I got to say the stuff
I saw on Twitter where you guys were talking about it,
and Brady made his points about the Big ten and

(44:17):
Lincoln Riley. Oh wait, there's an ambulance going by. There's
a lot of ambulances in the desert. One of these
days I'll be in one. There's a lot of old
people out here.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Somebody on their way to the outer beyond. Huh.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
I don't know. It seems to I think it's going
to pick somebody up. It's going to have to turn
around and go to the Eisenhower Metal. You know that.
I've visited family members at the Betty Ford that's out here,
and you would never know where the Betty Ford is.
It has such a little sign, you know, the very

(44:58):
famous Betty Ford rehab m And I haven't.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Heard of it until today. I was today years old
when I heard of it, But now no Betty.

Speaker 6 (45:05):
FOURD clink Jonas, have you ever heard of Benny of course?

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yeah, the Betty Ford Clinic.

Speaker 6 (45:10):
Yeah, I've been there. It's a visitor.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
It's filled with quitters, not a fan.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
Well, it's like one hundred and twenty degrees and people
are wearing sweatshirts and shiver and smoking cigarettes outside. Crazy Anyway,
I couldn't have said it any better than the way
Brady spoke about the pr campaign that USC has tried
to launch and used a couple of their key figures

(45:37):
of social media to help do so, and trying to
pile on the whole Notre Dame thing and find a
way to wriggle out of this just because they have
a head coach who has been as disappointing and much
more expensive than Clay Helton that doesn't want to play
Notre Dame. They've allowed this to dissipate and I cannot

(46:02):
believe it again. I walk around just in shock of
how this situation deteriorated to the point where we're going
to have USC football players in the next two years
probably beyond that that are not going to be able
to take the field against Notre Dame. And I don't
care about Mexico City or that's the stupidest thing I've

(46:23):
ever heard. You play in South Bend and you plan
the coliseum, that's what the rivalry is about. So I
am disgusted. I'm absolutely disgusted. I know that I didn't
win a Heisman, or really wasn't even that great of
a back or whatever. But I've had a long time

(46:45):
radio show and voice or whatever doing this job, and
I've never been so shocked and disappointed in the outcome
of the situation in my life. It's an absolute travesty
what's happening at us, And I think it's pretty obvious
to most people. Wow.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Yeah, And I want to kind of talk more big picture.
I mean I would just quickly say this. I mean, look,
I was someone who dr Meyer there, I mean, didn't
beat Ess and I think to think that, regardless of
the outcome of the game, just not to have the
opportunity to play in such a game. I mean, I'll
be honest with you. I hate the fact that Notre
Name is to play Michigan anymore. That game meant as

(47:25):
much to me as any because I almost went to Michigan.
You know, that was one of my final schools I
looked at. And so even that rivalry going away, which
I know it's coming back in the future for Notre Dame,
but I hated seeing that.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
So so all of these going away.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
It's it's unfortunate because to your point, you know, you
don't have the opportunity as a player to compete in it,
to have the feeling that that game feels because they
do it does feel different, and to create a legacy
off that. I think that's the thing that bothers me
the most is when you've got guys who've won a
Heisman or guys who jerseys are retired, who pander to
the idea of not playing that game when their legacy

(48:00):
he's built off of it. That's what probably bothers me
the most is it sounds selfish like they don't want
the other players who follow them to have that same opportunity.
But we talked about this early and I don't know
if you heard us talking about the comments from John
Kyler party and really in relation to college basketball, But
when you look at what's happening and guys who have
gotten drafted in the NBA and have played in professional

(48:22):
leagues in Europe all that, I think in college basketball
it might be more egregious with what's happening than even
college football, which has its own issues. Do you kind
of look at this and just say, like this entire
thing is messed up, like someone has to intervene to
fix it. Otherwise we're headed down a road where I
don't think it's good for any of the young people
that are involved.

Speaker 6 (48:44):
Yeah, I mean, the ball kind of started rolling down
the hill with nil, and we all had nixed feelings
about it because one of the great things about a
college locker room is there's not a number next to
half everybody's name. Well, you got a guy like LeVar
Arrington whose locker is next to you, you might recognize

(49:05):
that he's a little different from you. But at the
same time, that was one of the magical things about
college football. But we also wanted to see the money.
We've seen a lot of money being generated over the years,
and we wanted to see that money go to some
of the guys that are at risk and the guys
that are generating in the guys whose jerseys they're selling.

(49:29):
So all of that kind of sort of happened simultaneously
with the television contracts becoming gigantic and the television companies
starting to take control of where the NCAA probably used
to be, kind of jumping into that power vacuum, and

(49:51):
the transfer portal, of course, became a big part of this,
and a lot of these programs have just absolutely become
not as recognizable. I mean, look at Indiana, sometimes in
a good way, but I think the ball started rolling
as a pebble down a hill, and now, yeah, we're headed.

(50:12):
We're headed in an unsustainable direction, I guess I would say,
is where we're going when you have a guy like
Kenny Dillingham, who's a great coach and a very charismatic guy,
and hey, you just need to stroke a check as
if it's some kind of a you know, twenty million
dollar check. Just there's somebody here in Arizona to stroke

(50:32):
a check for us for twenty million dollars. And the
one thing they don't tell you is, okay, twenty million dollars.
Is he going to do it again next year? Is
he going to do it again in twenty twenty seven,
Is he going to do it again in twenty thirty
or she? I mean, it's it's just not a sustainable situation.

(50:53):
And none of us want to look at what's underneath
the iceberg because everybody on the TV side and at
the universities is making a lot of money, and the
players are making money where they never made money before.
So people are happy with the money in their pocket
and I think they're turning a blind eye to the
direction we're hitting it, which is off a cliff.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah, where did the impact the way?

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Good? John?

Speaker 2 (51:18):
No, I was just going to where does the term
stroke a check? Where does that land for you? As
far as amongst your favorite used by a coach in
recent memory, my favorite.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
Thing that a coach ever said to me was an
air raid coach sadly on the bron side of an
air raid team that had Pat Mahomes as the quarterback.
So in Texas Tech, they had a defensive coordinator and
he said to and they were losing, you know, half
their games, scoring fifty points a game and giving up

(51:51):
fifty one. And the defensive coordinator was very sad, and
he said, all we need is three stops, and we
can't get him.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
You gotta start with one before you can get dound
like he.

Speaker 6 (52:08):
Had something like to win, all we need is three stops.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Ever, Weekend get I think I know which coach you're
referred to as well, which if it's if it's who,
I think it was one of the all time great
production meeting interviews.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Ever, is he not the best?

Speaker 6 (52:28):
He's up there with the UTSA guy that trailer is
pretty epically all we need. Yeah, he's great, All we
need is three stops and we can't get him. I
would say is still number one. Uh, stroke a check
is top fan though, because just how asinine. Hey, all

(52:50):
you gotta do is you know somebody out here is
going to stroke a check for twenty million dollars. How
much do you even make in a year? Canny like
twenty million dollars.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
A few coins? It's absurd. Does this does this impact
the way?

Speaker 5 (53:06):
Does this impact the way you're going to watch this
year's Are you going to watch this year's college football playoffs?
And how does it like, how does all of this
conversation that we're talking about does it impact you at all?
Or do you not even give a down while you're
watching the game? Like do you just enjoy the game?
Sometime I find it hard to enjoy just watching a
game because we talk about so many things that are

(53:27):
connected to it.

Speaker 6 (53:28):
Yeah, I agree, Uh, you know, it kind of made
the season crappy in a way because and it's not
your fault, LeVar, but the biggest story of the season
was was started with James Franklin, Right, So I get it,
I hear you. You know, when he gets fired, we
stop talking about the field and we started talking about

(53:49):
the coaching carousel, and you know then that bleeds into
Notre Dame versus Miami versus Uh versus USC. I mean,
we've had you know, when we have the games, we
talk all this stupid crap because the sport is so
messed up all year round, and then when we finally
have the games, we still are too distracted by the

(54:12):
off the field stuff to really appreciate the teams in
the playoffs. That being said, the transfer portal makes it
kind of hard to know who's on what team. You know,
we used to watch these guys like you and Brady,
you know, Carson Palmer play year in and year out
and develop as their career went on. And we don't

(54:34):
really have that luxury anymore. The coaches that retain people
and that's a new college football word, but the coaches
that retain people seem to be the ones that have
moost success if they have a healthy program. But no,
I mean I watch because I have to watch, and
because I have to talk about it. I don't really

(54:54):
have anything else to do, and I enjoy Look, I
enjoyed the your games just because if you know somebody playing,
or you're familiar with somebody, then it's enjoyable to watch.
And I enjoyed the bigger games too. Sometimes I have
to mute the announcers a lot of the time, but

(55:15):
other than that, I watch it with a relatively enthusiastic eye.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
I would say, is there anything about college football, Petros
before we let you go that you wish got more
attention that was talked about, more so than some of
the negative stuff that people tend to focus on.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
Well, I mean, I've always said this, and I can't
really think of anything off the top of my head
other than that tactus at Arizona where they stick the
football on it, you know when they get a turnover.
That's pretty good. I don't think we talk enough. I
don't think we talk enough about that.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
The celebrations, yeah, I like it, Yeah, but.

Speaker 6 (55:57):
I think they actually take your football if they pick
it off, like they stick your ball, and then pay
you the sixty bucks or whatever it is, you know
after the game.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Pretty fires like that.

Speaker 6 (56:14):
That is my That's a pure speculation, but I think
it should be talked about more.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (56:23):
But the other thing I would say is college football
has always been this way, And I've always described it
this way. It's a big cauldron of a lot of things.
A lot of people of great character and a lot
of the opposite of that, and a lot of people
with the right agenda to help others and to be
a servant to others, and then a lot of people

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that are servants to themselves and themselves only. And I've
always said that the sport, my father has always said
that the sport doesn't create virtue, but it reveals it
out on the field when you when you watch. There's
inspiring things to see on every play. There really is,
So I mean, I think that's the part of it

(57:07):
that we might have lost a little bit in these conversations.
But then again, in the modern era you get the
Arizona turnover cactus.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
So it's all U petros last one for me, the
most overrated holiday.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
On the calendar.

Speaker 6 (57:24):
Oh, I don't know. Yeah, I don't like New Year's
Eve because I don't like a day where you know,
the finger is pointed at you and you're expected to
have a good time, you know what I mean. Like,
I don't like that, like where you're told like you
better have a good time or you suck you know
like that, you know, you know, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
Think when it's all centered around that, yeah, that's that
makes it like if you didn't have a good New Year,
you stink.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
You See, you're.

Speaker 6 (57:54):
Young and you have like a girlfriend and you're expected
to do something with her and it takes her to
some party or something. Yeah, New Year's Eve. I have
a problem.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Thang, isn't that every holiday though? That isn't that why
they manufact money most of them?

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Even birthday? You only get one birthday, you know what
I mean? Petro's like I was born once. You don't
have to keep saying it every year, Like, don't you
don't have to get people stuff like.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Your birthday is your birthday?

Speaker 5 (58:20):
You were birthed once? Like okay, like happy birthday. Like
there you go, like, let's let's move on. There's other
things to deal with, you know. But that's me. I
just feel like everything is forced to create you having
to spend money, and when you make money, you start
to realize how much your money is spent by other people.
That anyway, I'm ranting, but go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
New Year's Happy New Year, Yeah, happy New Year.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
I imagine you could just spend a going into the
next year, just hanging out.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
You know, Petro, you.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
Know what about your New Year's resolution, because I'm sure
you're really excited about the audience to do you.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Have one for us down Well?

Speaker 6 (59:00):
I think generally, I'm like everybody else where. I just
you know, I hope to be able to control myself
a little better in the new year. That's all. M
control the things I say, control being present when you're
amongst people, like not being distracted by something else so

(59:21):
that person actually thinks that, you know, you're really there
in the moment.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
I got the Fox Seminar.

Speaker 6 (59:27):
Yes, even at the Fox Seminar live at the moment
and capture eternity.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
There you go, Uh, Petros, we appreciate it and thanks
for thanks for doing it. We know you're you're on
vacation and enjoy the desert, enjoy yoga, and happy New
Year to you and the fam again, thank you.

Speaker 6 (59:47):
I'm gonna go hump a cactus.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
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