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January 2, 2026 42 mins

Jonas Knox and Brady Quinn discuss Oregon beating Texas Tech with Dan Lanning bringing up the playoff system after the game. Plus, the guys give their take on Ohio State losing to Miami in an upset, a live look in to the guys CFP Bracket's, aluminum bats in the MLB, and more!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
All hell yeah, Brady Quinn, it's a Dan Patrick show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Normally we do this show
with Lebar Arrington Monday through Friday, six am Eastern time,
three o'clock Pacific, but.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
We're doing on We're throwing that around way too much lately. Okay.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Two Hall of famers, one one in the Pro Football
Hall of Fame, now one of the College.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Football Hall of Fame. Damn right, just to ask him
and Professor Styx Yep.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
That's all right, we forgot we learned that before the
end of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Sticks picks. Yeah, his pick is.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
To be a professor apparently at at Penn State University,
which there are some who will be a big time
fan of that as I fall into that category. It's
like Jonas who are are asking the alumni base if
they're upset that that is now watered down their degree,
that LaVar is teaching a class.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I mean, I just you know, I'm all about, you know,
be fair and balanced on this show, man, and I
just think that it's important to uh to get to
the bottom of this stuff. And I also wonder, you
know this kind of you know, poison the well, so
to speak. That's all I mean. I just I just
want to know what. I want to know what these
classes are going to look like. I want to know

(01:16):
if that's why he's not here because he's preparing for
you know, putting together his lectures and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I just want to know. I gotta know. I will
say this, and I think you would agree with this.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
He has been incredibly enlightening in both of our lives
for the many times and conversations we've had, mostly off
the mic. That is correct. Yes, there's I'm sure there's
a lot of education that's going to be taking place. Yeah,
that is That is correct.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
He is.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
He's definitely definitely this. He's definitely somebled who's got quite
the resume. So sore. They're getting a U they're getting
one of the great professors and they don't even know
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this earlier you were at the Orange.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Bowl that yeah, yeah, take it away. Look, I'll say this,
and I mentioned it before.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I think one of my biggest takeaways and in regards
to the teams that are going to be competing for
a national championship that are still in it, and maybe
what went wrong for the teams that were in the
playoff that it didn't go well, I mean, first and
foremost to me, there's no, no, there's no more important
position in all sports in the quarterback, even though look again,
you're only out there, you know, let's say a third
of the time if you really break up the snap

(02:47):
counts with special teams of defense. However, I think even
more so at college football, and the reason is, I
just think there's not as much talent at the college
level on most teams.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
So a quarterback you can play.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
A high level, is able to raise that, you know,
level of everyone else at around him. And I think
you've seen that with Indiana this year and obviously Fernanda Mendoza.
I think you saw that a little bit of Dante
Moore this year, the quarterback for Oregon for Texas Tech.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
At times he did with Baron Morton, but this was
not one of his best games.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
You know, he really struggled. He went up against a
team that's got the ability to rush, got the ability
to cover, and that was very evident. I just I
think that was unfortunately one of those poor performances offensively
for Tech. That was not you know how they played
the entire season, and then you got to give Dan
Lanning his staff credit, their players credit, but also that's
just it's a bat out. It's a bad day, and

(03:37):
I thought Oregon in every capacity was the more physical team.
But there's also an element of I mean, just when
I watched Texas Tech this year, if you go back
Evento the Utah game, Barry Morton struggled. You know in
that game, he got injured. You know, missed a period
of time this year. And it's tough because you know
he is He's the type of player and kid that
wanted to always be the starting quarterback at Texas Tech.

(04:00):
Like this is him living out his dream and that
was his final game, and to go out that way,
it's never the way anyone.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Wants it to go. So it stinks for Texas Tech.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
But I think that's a big step for the program
what they're able accomplish. Went in the Big Twelve, you know,
getting a bye, being a you know, number four seed
in the playoff, but now you've got a Dan Lanning
team an Oregon that Jonas, to me feels more like
Ohio State last year, right, Like, didn't play in the
Big Ten championship game, had that time to collect themselves,
got some momentum going in the first round, and now

(04:30):
another dominant performance in the quarterfinal, like squarely looking for revenge.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
In that rematch versus Indiana.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, and it looked like there's like it feels like
Dan Lanning the experience based on last year. And he's
been very vocal about just the scheduling. You know, look
at that this game should have been played at Loubic
I didn't want to go there, so on and so forth.
But he also talked afterwards about some ways to improve,
some ways to change, some things to get done in

(04:55):
the world of college football to help everybody.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
What do you think of not having thing a first
round by this season.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
I guess it works, right.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
You know, I've been a proponent for games to be
happening much quicker for a long time. I think that's
best for college football. Again, I felt like this game,
the Orange Bowl first off, was unbelievable. I should have,
you know, really gave him kudos to the Orange Bowl
because it's been a great experience. But it's not the
same bowl experience anymore when you talk about playoffs, right,
you know, our guys didn't leave the hotel. They had
a mindset, you know that we can celebrate when this

(05:25):
thing's all over with, and they were really focused.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
But the hospitality here was unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
But we're trying to serve two different purposes here, and
this is a playoff. Playoff, in my opinion, should have
been played in Lubbock, Texas.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I said that before.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
That's not because we wanted to go play in Lubbock.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
I certainly didn't.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
I'm glad we played here in Miami and it was
good prep for us. But you know, last year a
very similar situation for us. Feel like that game should
have been playing in Eugene, and there's a lot of
people who do playoffs. You know, I feel like the
playoffs have looked a certain way for a long time.
We're trying to serve two purposes here, and the amount
of time in between games. Obviously it's tough for teams.
You know, we experienced it last year.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I mean, it makes a lot of sense. I also
would say this being at the Orange Bowl last year
and you were there yesterday, And this is not to
give credit to you and LeVar and your alma maters,
but being at the Orange Bowl last year felt a
little bit more significant than maybe the one yesterday that.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Was again but different circumstances, right, I mean, you had
a night game and a semi final game where the winner.
I mean, it's after New Year. You're not dealing with
the holiday, especially a noon kick in Miami, which if
there's anywhere that parties and stays.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Out all night, it's Miami.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
I mean, I can't tell you how many people I
met while I was there who were either still just
rolling in from the night before or had a quick turnaround.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
And we're not happy about it. I mean, they're the dog.
But by the way, did you just do yourself a favor?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Like if you go to X type in Dan Lanning
and just find out what the first word is afterwards.
All Right, No, Dan Lanning was not partying on South Beach.
He's just got a lot of energy. Okay, I'll put
it that way, Like people got to stop making reckless
accusations against Dan Landing. Enough's enough guys fired up on
the sidelines.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I'm not even going to touch that. But but I'll
just I'll say this.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
I think it's tough for the quarterfinal games because we
saw this a bit a little bit last year too,
with some of the fan bases.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I mean, there was a.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Much greater Texas Tech crowd that was present for that game,
and it was noticeable inside the stadium, maybe not so
much thout the course that game, just because of the
way the game went so low scoring in the first
half and the obviously the second half, Oregon distanced themselves.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
But if your Texas Tech, like you.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Know, outside of the Big Twelve Championship, you didn't have
a first round game, so this was that moment to
travel to it you don't know if your team's gonna
win or not. For Oregon fans, I mean, they've you know,
now gone to you know, if you're probably going up
to Eugene. You know, that's a fan base that would
probably have to travel. There's fans up in Eugene, obviously,
but you know they've been coming from all over the
Pacific Northwest, maybe all over the country, you know, to

(07:58):
see that first round game.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
And then you got to decide, am I going to
go to the Orange Bowl?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
If I'm expecting Oregon, which they were a slight favorite
to win, I got to prepare for that next trip,
you know that in the next place we're going. And
I think that's the tough part about the playoff system
in general right now with a lot of the New
Year six games, is it stresses the fan bases. It
does stress some of the Bowl games, especially in the
quarterfinal round, to sell out some of those tickets. I mean,
geographically speaking, can we not take a gander or look

(08:28):
at where the teams are coming from, Like maybe we
don't need to just have set assignments, Like maybe we
sit there and say, would have it not been better
to have this game played in the Rose Bowl between
Texas Tech and Oregon, Like, wouldn't that be a little
better than having both teams have to travel across the country?

Speaker 1 (08:47):
To South Florida.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Like again, I'm just throwing out ideas, because if a
tendance is your concern and the environments you're concerned, that's
always going to be an issue for the quarterfinal round.
In my opinion, I just think you're gonna have a
hard time doing it as the semi final round. Obviously
it gets close in for national championship, those aren't concerns.
What's crazy to me, though, is the fact that this
might be the only time on record in college football

(09:11):
history that you could get a team that plays for
the national championship in their home stadium. Now, you probably
have to go back to the days where, maybe even.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Before the Bulls, where you just.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Played your schedule and the associated press and teams kind
of claimed the national championship.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Like you have to go to those days.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
So I'm not a historian, but I would imagine if
Miami makes a national championship game, they'll I have a
chance to do something that I don't know that will
ever be replicated outside of again, potentially the Hurricanes if
they can keep this thing on a run and Miami
ends up being a host sitting in the future.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Let me ask you something about Dan Lanning. So he
makes the comment that we're trying to do two things.
Is it possible to feed both beaces?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Like, is it possible to have this college football playoff
but still keep the traditions that are the bowl games
that we've all grown up with and watched for so
many years. Like it's a subtle.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Thing, but you know there was something too, you know,
Rose Bulls kicking off an hour earlier. Like it's a
subtle thing, but it's the sunset, Like there's there's the
I just wonder, is there a way to do both?
Or we just passed the point to where it is
what it is?

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Man?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
The playoffs going to change everything. I think the playoffs's
going to change everything, you know, because if.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
We're being honest about the desire to expand further, you know,
you're you're going to probably get rid of conference championship games,
you know. I think there's been some ideas floated out
about twenty four teams, which to me is too many.
I mean, I don't I don't think that makes as
much sense. I know, we've got one hundred and you
know thirty some teams in FBS. So if you look
at the percentage of teams actually that would then have

(10:49):
a chance to play for the national championship that would
probably more closely resemble you know, obviously not what we
have in the NFL, but you know what you have
in college basketball, so that there might be some there
might be some validity to that, but I would say
sixteen makes the most sense.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I don't really believe in buys.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I think all these programs should have the chance to
host a home playoff game, just having been to a
number of them. It's just it's an incredible atmosphere and
it's a ton of fun from that point moving forward, though,
I don't know, I'm not sure how you know, you
change anything outside of you know, really seeing how those
first round games play out and basing where those teams

(11:26):
will go in the quarterfinal round.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Based on you know, maybe the you know, the.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Higher ranked team and the region, right like, that's that's
the only way you could kind of go about doing that.
So create some flexibility to it, yeah, I mean, and
again that's tough to do when you're asking these teams,
depending on how much times in between those games.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
To deal with that.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
So that's that's the first issue. But going back to
the initial point, we talked about in the first hour,
the college football calendar is it's a problem.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
It's never made sense to me. It's never syncd up.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
I mean, thank god, you know, the powers that be
got to get and said we don't need two transfer
portal windows.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
I have no idea why.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
No other sports of my knowledge in college sports has
two windows. You only needed one. And we're moving closer,
obviously to doing the right things. But start the season
a week zero, start moving through faster to the actual
playoff after a conference championship weekend. If we're going to
keep those games and then end this thing on New

(12:24):
Year's or around New Year's I mean, help, you know,
play it somewhere in this vicinity, you know, after New Year.
But I don't think we need to extend it as
far out as we do into January. I don't think
you need to have to, you know, try to compete
with the NFL, which seems very intent on taking up
every Saturday possible now, which used to be sacred for
college football. I mean, like, let's do some things that

(12:47):
are in the best interest of the sport in the
long term, not just how we're trying to line our
pockets right now.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Cash grab. Everything's a cash grab.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
And I also look back last year in the Bo
Prabula situation at State when he had to transfer and
everyone's like, oh, how could you leave you? I mean,
he's leaving his team and you know, he's entering the
portal and they're in the semi final and they've got
the Orange Bowl coming up. And James Franklin was the
first guy who defended him and said, look, man, he
doesn't want to do this. He like, he doesn't want

(13:15):
to leave his team. And it also puts him in
a It wasn't like perrule. It didn't appear in games either,
like he had some experience. If something would happened to
Drew Rowler last year, all of a sudden, you don't
have that guy because he's got to enter the portal
and ends up at Missouri. It just it feels like
this is a problem, and even the coaches who are
having to see these guys leave are stepping up going

(13:36):
they don't want to do this. Like everybody's on the
same page. It doesn't make any sense, and for some
reason it's still here. Well again, we have a professional model.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
And I keep going back and forth because I remember
my first year out from playing calling both NFL and programs,
and I'd always have questions for Mike Proer and Dean Blandin.
I'll just say, why are these rules not the exact
same of both levels?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Right?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, like what are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Well, for example, one of the hardest things for quarterbacks
when they adapt from college football into the NFL is
dealing with where.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
The hashes are.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Now, there's a number of reasons we can kind of
go into and all that. Obviously, you know, the wider
the hashes are, the easier. It makes those boundary throws.
So you know, high school, college, you know, have a
little wider hashes.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
But also it's the manner in which you.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Spread the field, So the field feels more spread out
because the ball is placed on one side more so
than the other. But you get through the NFL, it's
basically in the middle because the hashes are so narrow. So,
you know, this transition for quarterbacks oftentimes pre snap post snap,
when you're trying to read whether it's a one high
safety meeting there's a safety in the middle of the
field or too high, it actually flips. You know, in

(14:43):
college football, when you see a safety near the hasher
thing and split safety coverage in the NFL when you
see a safety and or a hasher thing in post
high and I know that sounds like super elementary, and
people are like, what's so hard about that?

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, when you're.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Doing it in the midst of everything else, you have
to take into account as a quarterback when you're yeah,
I have to make a decision in two and a
half seconds, it actually makes it a little harder than
you think when you've been trained a certain way for years.
So I just I mean the eighth official thing we
brought up with Dean Blandino earlier this week.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I have no idea. If they want extra eyes on.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
The field, why they don't just bring on an extra
eighth official to help get the call right on the field.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's like, well, that's a college football thing.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I was like, oh, okay, you know you mentioned the
uniformed rules at both levels. I completely forgot if had this.
So I was watching with my son. There's a bowl game.
I forget which one it could, like the Dollar Tree Bowl, Like,
who cares. It was some bowl game and they were
doing a replay of a catch made by a guy

(15:43):
at the college level, and he got one foot in
and they you know, it was a completion, et cetera.
And my son says to me, and I swear to
God Papa, but both feet he didn't get both feet.
I was like, well, no, it's college. In college, you
only have to have one foot in.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
In the NFL, yet you have to have two feet in.
And he was like why. I was like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Nothing. I have no answers for you.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I don't know why there are certain rules that are
different at college and are in the NFL. I have
no idea. It seems like it would make the most
sense in the world. It's pretty easy. It's the same product.
Yet for some reason, there's two different ways to to
rule it and officiate it.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
It's weird to have stripe on the ball, no stripes.
You can keep going with it. I mean, even the
way you can, you know, doctor the balls and how
they're providing the NFL risk college are completely different.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
So there's a lot of there's a lot of things.
I mean, I don't know, this is the hill I'm
willing to die on. Why not? But come on, let's go.
I would just.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Generally say this, in the professional model, you don't have
free agencies start until the quote unquote new league year
defined as you know, in the collective bargaining agreement.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
And I realized there's a lot.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Of legal just you know people, or I should say
attorneys are legal minds excuse me, that are smarter than I.
So there's some that don't feel like we'll ever get
a collective barn and agreement.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
There's something that feel like we do.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Whether we do or we don't, I do think it
be it would be in our best interest to move
up the season, figure out a way of making the
transfer portal after the season is concluded, allow the players
coaches to focus on what we should all be focused
on right now, and that's the teams that are going
to try to play for a championship and end a
story like there doesn't need to be any other debate

(17:24):
around you know why it should be any other way,
And if we want to use the academic calendar as
an excuse for it, we threw the academics out a
long time ago, or at least a few years ago.
Once you started involving in IL, once you started involving
the transfer portal, and zero limitations on the amount of
times they transfer everything else. The academic desires of these

(17:46):
student athletes went out the window. It's all about the money.
It's all about where I can go play and make money.
That's the concern for people, as long as they stay
eligible enough. These a lot of these players don't even
go to class anymore. They literally will never step foot
in a classroom all online. So that's that's the point
of which we're at now. And again I'm not trying
to judge it. I think it's the same bad long term,

(18:07):
but you know, for where we're at now, let's at
least clean up the calendar so we can prioritize the
things that matter most, and that should be winning a championship.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
All right.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I got another uniform rule that we should implement. How
about this Major League Baseball aluminum bats. Let's go, all right,
you can you can do it. Aluminum bats, all right,
because like I want to see tank shots.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Someone's gonna die like those guys, the way they'd rip
the ball.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
The chance is what it is, all right, is what
it is. That option idea, just.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Letting you know, like there's there's a way that we
can help out every sport. If they would just keep thinking,
it would make things easier for everybody telling.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
You, man, I kind of advocate for the illuminum bats too, personally,
like just pipe shots with aluminum bats.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
That makes it exciting for me is you can have
a team up like twelve to four in the seventh
or eighth inning, and there's a legit.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's they're gonna rip off ten runs in one.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
No lead is safe, all right, everybody's wearing a bike
helmet or something in the Yeah, you're.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Gonna be bringing back cut guy's gonna be taking cross
shots driving like especially third base.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Let me tell you something. Two days into the new year,
and you and I have just solved two major problems
uniform rules in football, uniform bats in baseball.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Two days in, I'm not advocating for aluminum bats. I
think that'd be I mean, first off, guys be rewriting
the record books too. It's like I'd rather see them
juicing up again with the wooden bats as opposed to
using the aluminum.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Batsy Patrick, keep this conversation for when we don't want
to talk NBA after football is over. Would you rather
have aluminum bats or steroids in baseball?

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Take your pick? Yeah? Noted? Right now, keep that up.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
I'm just saying, like I want my hitters to look
like Mark McGuire's forums, right, that is correct, and I'm
not making any claim he was or was I was saying,
I just want everyone to look absolutely jacked to the
gills when they stand up that plate holding well, it
looks to be a toothpick.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
And if you see a paint can of Andro and
his locker, look the other way. Don't be so nosy,
all right, look And if.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
You have an issue with me saying this right now,
that's the where.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
I grew up in Okay. I was born in the eighties.
Love eighties music, love the nineties. As far as the
style of basketball they played back then too, as I
still think they should bring back the physicality to the NBA.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
And I'd lived in an.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Era where you watch dudes who were absolutely jacked launched
that ball outside of stadiums and I missed.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
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Speaker 2 (21:49):
It's the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
He's Brady Quinn, I'm Jonas Knox and for Dan and
the guys. By the way, coming up in about twenty
minutes from now, We've got some explaining to do in
the world of football. There was some really poor choices made.
We will discuss that for you right here again a
little over twenty minutes from now on FSR. So, one

(22:14):
of the elements that we are going to bring to
the Dan Patrick Show coming up in hour three is
one Albert Breer. All right, Albert Breer, who you know
is an NFL insider, does a tremendous job, but he's
also a regular guest on Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe with myself, Rady Quinn, and LeVar Arrington every
single Thursday. And one of the things about Albert Breer

(22:36):
is that he loves Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
I'm and are you sure he's coming on today?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
That's the problem it's been. The communication has been a
little wishy washing with ab.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Is that Patty? Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Like you've gotten, you know, real quick responses, but no confirmation.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
That he's going to be on.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Yeah, correct, Okay, he said sure and well sure and
never got back.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
So we're assuming he's gonna be on.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
But if he's not, just know it's because Ohio State
got their ass whooped over the weekend that was or
in the past couple of days.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Feels like a weekend anyways.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
But New year's eve was not kind to the Ohio
State buck Eyes as they got smoked by Miami.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Like that game didn't feel close. And here's the thing
about Albert.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
It's not like he comes on our show and doesn't
do a tremendous job with NFL news, but also insane
that he does kind of peacock around talk not us about.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
How good Ohio State is.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
So I think the hard thing bring is he probably
never foresaw this potential performance happening. I mean, we've been
talked to him since the Big Ten Championship. I feel
like you're taking a lot of time off lately.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I think we have talked to him, but those conversations
anytime they veered towards the Big Ten title game, like
he tried to steer clear of those. Yeah, because we
did find out that he was in attendance for that.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
And he's the mush as I've said a thousand times,
I mean he is, he is the cancer to Whenever
Ohio State loses a game, you can look around and
look for Albert Breer.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Okay, that's been my experience.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
He's usually there again, gallivanting around, you know, screaming.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
No age, you know, but then it's it's usually bad
things happen.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
So if I'm a Buckeyes fan, I'm probably telling Albert
maybe just watch him home from now on.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, I mean that would make Michael save him money,
saved him heartache, and and he wouldn't have to bear
witness to what Ohio State has done to him so
many times before. It is kind of crazy, though, to
think that the Michigan game was their last win of
the season, like that was it so enjoy enjoy it?
Why you could but give Miami credit? Man, that was

(24:49):
it seemed like they were in total control early on,
and it just seemed like every bounce went the way
of the Hurricanes. Literally, like it seemed like every play.
It just felt like early on it was just not
going to be the day for Ryan Day and the
buck guys.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
They've looked out of sync or out of sorts really
since that that Michigan game, and look some of it
again may have to do with the fact that their
offensive coordinator, who Brian Hartlin, did a tremendous job this season.
There's a lot of us played in that Big Ten
Championship game. It was somewhat discussed and talked about in
Ohio State circles that you know, maybe that wasn't the
best idea to have him call.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Plays while he's the head coach now at.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
South Florida and trying to construct a staff and talk
to them about recruiting and everything else that goes along
with that. I mean, trying to find a place to
live for your family. It's not easy for these guys
in their transition. So maybe some elements of that played
a factor. Ryan Day took over the play calling in
this particular matchup, and you know, again, it felt like

(25:48):
they just could never really find what they needed to.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
But I think the thing that stood out.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
To me the most was there was one glaringly obvious
weakness for Ohio States offense, and that was their inability
to consistently run the foot. It felt like when they
could this year, it was a bit of smoke and
mirrors or maybe on some lesser opponents, but the offensive
line was probably just average if we're being honest with ourselves,
and you went up against the two best edge rushers

(26:13):
in college football, you know, Ruben Baines junior Messador on
the other side, it came mesador like both those guys
would be playing on Sundays, and I think you got
a good dose of what they're capable of doing. And
I know a lot of people made a lot of
this season of them not having even more sack production,
but they were teams were very intent of.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Trying to eliminate them from games.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
So I look at that match and I say, once
Ohio stay became one dimensional, which they kind of entered
the game that way, and they really struggled to be
able to run the football.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
It was a wrap because that plays.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Right into the hands of what Miami wants to do,
and that's put you in a one dimensional mode, get
a lead and then try to have you come from
behind thrown against that secondary, which has been largely improved.
Before the season, they hit the transfer portal hard and
it helped. They got healthy. They got a new offensive coordinator,
Corey Heatherman is in an incredible job coming from Minnesota.
But that's their style, and Mario Cristobo is one of

(27:05):
the best O line coaches in the country as their
head coach. Has a massive offensive line that was just
going to keep running the football and grinding away, grinding
the way Ohio stated had four possessions in the second half,
four that is it.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
A lot of people think it's because the pace of
play that played.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
A role in that too, but it's also because Miami
was kind of milking the clock in some of these
longer drives. So again, there's a bunch of different things
you can point to. If you're a Buckeyes fan. The
reality is you just got beat by a better team.
I mean Miami right now. I think it's a team
that can win in a greater variety of ways in
Ohio State can Was this the biggest surprise.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
For you of the weekend or why do I keep
saying the weekend for chrisis?

Speaker 1 (27:45):
You know what I mean? Football play like? Was this
the biggest surprise for you?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
In no, No, Honestly, I thought Texas Tech Oregon would
be a much tighter game. You know, as you know
we talked about this. I did think Oregon would win.
I didn't think it was going to look like that.
I thought there'd be a bit more fireworks credits to
both defenses.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
I mean, that's again another team that.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Hit the transfer portal hard and they made their presence
fell you know, Heights on one side, Bailey on the other.
Like those dudes can absolutely get after their entire defensive
front is one of the best in college football, so
I knew there'd be elements of that, but watching the
outcome of this Ohio State game, it felt more as
if it was a team that you know, outside of

(28:27):
their identity and throwing the football as saying if they
couldn't protect him, he was going to struggle. I mean,
he hasn't been great when he's been under durest this
year versus the Bulitz is one thing. But when people
are pressing you and usually got you know, usually quarterbacks aren't,
they're going to struggle a bit.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
But that was the only.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Thing they could hang their hat on this year. It
was the talented wide receiver. But again, there's a you
could go into, like really deep into this O O
Higo State because I think there's a lot of things
that you can question, like the personnel usage. They have
the best receivers in college football, and too often times
they're running twelve personnel with two tight end sets. And
that's not taking anything away from Max Claire, for example,

(29:04):
he's one of the better tight ends, but you only
have one football and it's hard to get the football
around all these different playmakers. And the other thing is
that I thought was the most surprising thing because Ohio
States been really good at this typically is the receivers
have been some of their best blocking on the perimeter.
There was a reverse they ran, Carnell Tate whiffed and

(29:25):
Jeremi Smith got tackled for a minimal gain if at
all the pick six that was on Jeremi Smith, that
was his man Scott ripped through their identified it. Jeremi
I should have been should have been blocking him, and
instead it's a touchdown going back the other way. So,
you know, the blocking on the perimeter, even something that
you know Brian Hartline's do an incredible job with his
receivers in the past, like that was even a bit surprising.

(29:47):
You know, the field goal kicking up until the Big
Ten Championship game, maybe in sam in Michigan, some of
the other spots. I didn't think it was overly shaky
until the last you know, few games, but all of
a sudden that became a liability for them. So it
just this is just not an Ohio State team like
we saw last year that when they got into the playoff,
they lit the world on fire and they played like

(30:08):
the team they were capable of I don't know that
this Ohio State team ever really played up to their
capability this entire year.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
I mean it does put to uh put to test,
you know, beat Michigan or win a national title. You know,
there is that So I mean, look, it's not.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
The question is is Ryan Day on the hot seat?

Speaker 6 (30:25):
Then?

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Right, because that's usually what people tend to do after
a while state they tend to be a bit hyperball,
like they tend to overreact about uh some of these
some of these things.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
But is that is that the question you're trying to ask?

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Now?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
I mean it I think I think if someone says, yes,
you're a moron, all right, that's just what I'd say.
He's an unbelievable coach and you're a moron if you
think Ryan Day's on the hot seat.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
He's been fantastic man. Like I like the conversation about
him being on the hot seat, Like, I think it
illustrated two things. One people are insane. Two like that
rivalry is real. And I've I've said this, I thought
I understood it. And then the longer I did the
show and the conversation in having discussions with you being

(31:11):
from you know, Columbus, Dublin area. Like the longer I
did the show, either more I realize, oh no, this
is like a real thing, like it's it's that, or
you're looked at differently and they don't care what you
do outside of that, You're just looked at differently. So
I do wonder that it would be interesting to get
Albert Breer's thoughts if he doesn't answer his phone. I
do wonder if, now, upon further review, if you were

(31:34):
to tell Ohio State fans in the moment in ann Arbor,
by the way, last one of the season for you
right now, would you take that or would you rather
still be playing in the semi final and getting ready
to try and win another national championship, Because that's it's
just a wild, wild turn of events for the Ohio
State buck guys.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
But you know events.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
But I do think we're not giving credits to Miami
enough here too. And really, Maria crystal Ball, who you know,
in the past, I think has had his moments where
there's been some game management issues. That was obviously not
a case in this game. If you look at the
build up from twenty twenty two just to where they
are now, I mean every single year have gotten better
and taken that next step, and now we find them

(32:16):
knocking on the door. The way they're playing right now
is the best team maybe in college football. So a
lot of credit goes to him, Shannon Dawson there office coordinator.
He does an incredible job of finding ways of getting
his playmaker of the football. Malachi Tony's a stud as
a freshman, but they dial up unique ways of getting.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
In the ball.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
And I think probably the thing that's come alive the
most and has been most revealing of who this team is.
And if you're talking about the Hurricanes, and it really
defines who their coaches. They've been a tough, physical team
to the line of scrimmage, both sides of the ball.
They were laying the hammer against the Yeah A State,
but even then, just in the trenches like that, that's

(32:53):
what wins, and that's really where you know. Murray Crystobol
has has, I think, to me, define this team the most.
He knows that better than anyone else, being you know,
a whole lineman, and so he deserves a ton of
credit man, because he's gotten some criticism. This is a
team that you could have made a case last year
maybe should have.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Been in the playoff. If they did, who knows, you know,
maybe they would have went on a run like this.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
I think they're a much better team this year, in
particular on defense and in part because of the additions
they made through the portal.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
But this is a team that I look at them.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
And just say they right now, and I don't know
if they're the betting odds on favorite to win it,
that would be a team I'd be looking at. The
only concern I have, and this goes back to, like
the two things that I think are very apparent so
far in the playoff is the quarterback play. You've got
to obviously have a guy who could be a dude
in the moments when he needs to and make plays
and take care of the football and not become a disaster.

(33:48):
I thought Beck did an unbelievable job of his legs,
you know, for a guy who's not known as a
dual threat quarterback. He took off, he Randy Scramble, He
did what he could to get what he could, and
he really didn't put the game in Harm's way too much.
But that was you know that that style will this
team with way Mark Fletcher's running the football right now,
the way the old line's playing, that could win them
a national championship.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
So if you have to guess the odds national championship,
who's gonna win it all? Guess the odds right now,
what would it be?

Speaker 1 (34:17):
I think they're probably like plus two hundred.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
I think Indiana's probably the favorite, like minus one fifty
plus one thirty five for the Hoosiers.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Okay, and you've got Oregon in Miami sitting at plus
three hundred, so three to one and one three, all right,
that's if I was gonna think we're gonna be tight
in there too, I'll be curious. And then and then
Old misses this wildcard of the way they're playing. I
think there's probably just some concern about the coaching situation.
But they've got the capability.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
The way that offense can score, man, that is that's
something something special.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
They're sitting at plus five fifty, so one hundred bucks
will win n five fifty and uh, you know who mean, hey,
if you're laying Kiffin, just let them keep rolling, man,
keep getting paid. Every time they win, you get you
get a little bit of a check.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
So what's what's wild about Miami is think about the
fact that they could win a national championship, and by
the way, in their home stadium, which would be probably
the first ever in college football history, you know, finishing
off a season winning a national championship in your stadium,
but also before they've won an a CEC championship.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
Think about that. I mean, what's the last team that's
done that. I don't Yeah, that's it is the Uh yeah,
it's as well as that sounds. They still have not
won an ACC championship. And look, I'm not here to
go back over what I said before.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
By the way, Like that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Like the fact that the ACCS tie breaking scenario didn't
put Miami in that game is bonkers, and that's for
another day. But still, the fact that they have the
chance of winning a national championship before we get a
conference championship is a bit wild.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Oh man, It's like that that piece of dry toilet paper.
By the way, have you ever wiped with a piece
of dry toilet paper and wondered, is this as good
as a gain?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
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Speaker 1 (36:48):
Moment of truth. How much did.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
The Ohio State loss on New Year's Eve affect one
man in the world of football. Yeah, we'll find out
whether or not Albert Breer answers his phone in about ten.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Minutes from now when we catch up with AB. So
there is that.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
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(37:26):
Sports Radio bracket challenge for the college football Playoff.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
We do it for the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Usually doesn't end up well either, but I took a
bold approach, said, you know what, I'm going to go
outside the box here, all right. What I'm going to
do is I'm going to go Georgia beating Texas Tech,
and that'll do it. That's a wrap on my college
football playoffs.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Buddy.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
I'm pretty sure I know iut stay Georgia, so I'm
out as well.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
I don't know. I don't know if it's been that's
that's a rep. It's just it's gone. So that's that's
that's going to do it. Patty, do we have the up?
Is there any update on these standings of where anybody's at,
because I don't even think LeVar is still in contention.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
So they haven't updated like everybody's points scoring yet. That's
still early into this. But I do have sticks sticks
picks here if you want to go through it. What
he picked for the final yeah, what was sticks picks
six picks? Well, he went with his final two in
the championship was Oregon versus.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Georgia, and he took Georgia winning.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
One.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
That's still in the.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
We're both eliminated, so it's not even like you can
say anything.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
I had Indiana versus Ohio State with Ohio State losing,
so I mean, that's all, folks, but at least got
one in there.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Maybe. I mean, by the way, maybe.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
For what it's worth, one of the teams in my
final didn't even score, so that's they're like, that's as
bad as it can I mean, there's there's not much
nail where she could do there. So yeah, do you
have any issue with Dan Lanning scoring a touchdown late?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
No?

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Actually I had more of an issue with in a
game versus a good team like Texas Tech. I don't know,
he was so adamant about not kicking field goals and
trying to go for everything and score touchdowns. Look, maybe
he felt like there's something going on there and he
has got a better insight than I, but I actually
thought there's a few opportunities he probably just should have
taken the field goal, especially the way the defense was playing,

(39:31):
you know, take the points, you know, kick off, keep
them back deep, you know, don't necessarily try to go
for it and not get it.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
But it all worked out in the end, so there's
no real complaint there.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
But yeah, there probably wasn't a need to necessarily score
the touchdown. But hey man, he's he doesn't want to
take his foot off the gas pedal, and I can
understand that.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
He's trying to get him a little bit of a rhythm,
you know, try and get him get him in sync there.
And but you know, do you knows.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Maybe Phil Knight called down because those are two of
the most expensive rosters in college football based on time.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Phil Knight's backing Cody Campbell. I'm not him, me and
you for field goals.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah, I was maybe like, hey, let me tell you something.
You take down these Red Raiders and this Cody Campbell character.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Okay, I did think that it was It was interesting.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
One of the things that I noticed was after the
Georgia Ole miss game, like when they were walking out,
like however that game was gonna end, you know, and
they finally figured it out. But you did see like
Kirby Smart seemed like he was genuinely happy for Pee
Goulding because I think he probably recognizes they've been put
in a crap spot by Lane Kiffen, and it did

(40:35):
it did feel and even like Joey maguire was saying,
like he's he loves Dan Lanning, He's happy for the program,
so he had no issue. But it did feel like
those two coaches sort of recognize better team one good
for them, but there was no animosity. And especially with
the Kirby Smart stuff, I thought was interesting because I
think he, like Mike tom that did this in the

(40:55):
NFL where he sort of spoke up in defense of
Kevin Stefanski when they when they traded Joe Flacco and
nobody can figure out why you would do that. It
was kind of nice to see coaches have their coaches
back and understand you've been put in a difficult spot,
and he and Kirby Smart was happy for Pe Golding
in that situation. I'll say this about Kirby Smart. He

(41:16):
is to me one of the few faces of college
football in regards to the influence that he has, the
voice that he has, and given his success, you know,
being a two time national champion and what he's done
you know, being the SEC so far really kind of
carrying the flag for them.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
And I think he should speak up more.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
I think what Dan Lanning said and how open he
was with some of his thoughts around what's happening right
now in college football. It's desperately needed, and Kirby Smart
needs to do the same thing, like he needs to
stand up to try to find a way of all
the all the powerful, you know, minds that be put
it together to try to figure out a solution to
some what we're dealing with.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
By the way, moment of truth time, we're going to
find out whether or not Albert Breer is still wearing it.
From the Ohio State loss Ab joins you next here,
It's Brady Quinn, It's Jonas Knox. It's a Dan Patrick
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The Burden

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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.

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